WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:07.759 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Thoston's new radio. 2 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.599 Al Thank you. I'm used to working with Al on 3 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:13.039 Saturday nights where I have my own show from nine 4 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:16.640 to midnight, and most of you already know that it's 5 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:20.519 called The Morgan Show. I am here tonight until midnight 6 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:25.120 and tomorrow eight until midnight's filling in for Dan Ray. Dan, 7 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:30.399 We'll be back on Wednesday. I promise ever watch a 8 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:35.920 TV show or movie and say to yourself, how did 9 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:39.679 they do that? How did they do that? Stunt with 10 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:45.920 Keanu Reeves in the John Wick series, where he's doing 11 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:50.679 a doughnut spinning around in the car. His door drivers 12 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:56.159 side door is wide open and he's able to accurately 13 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:00.359 shoot at the bad guys. Did they really do that 14 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:05.239 in the middle of a town square? Actually, maybe they did. 15 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.719 I have a gentleman who can answer that question and 16 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:13.959 all others like it. He's a second generation stunt coordinator. 17 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:16.719 He gaffs almost. 18 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:20.640 Which is a way. A gaff is a term used 19 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:24.760 in the movie and TV trade. Well, it means also 20 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:28.560 taping down all the wires, but as well it means 21 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:32.480 setting up a stunt so it looks believable and the 22 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:38.840 finished product convinces the viewing audience. It's like, Wow, that 23 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:44.040 poor guy fell. It looked like twenty twenty feet or 24 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:49.200 more into that stained glass in the Poseidon Adventure. I've 25 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:52.400 got Gary King here, and Gary, how did they do 26 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:57.760 that one stunt where a guy falls into the stained glass? 27 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:01.200 Well, good evening, Morgan, it's great talk to you again. 28 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:06.400 My dad was working on the Tower or on the 29 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:12.280 Poseidon Adventure just prior or yeah, just prior to when 30 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:17.120 I started in the movie business with him. I wasn't 31 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:19.199 there on the set, but I know for a fact 32 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:24.000 that they had a camera setting up above the ground 33 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.680 level looking down onto the stage floor. 34 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.199 That's the view that we had, mm hmm. 35 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:33.680 And then they had they had a stunt man. Now 36 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.759 I'm I was a special effects man, so I had 37 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:41.599 to rig what the stunt guys were going to be doing. Uh, 38 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:45.360 And so we we worked with the stuntman all the time. 39 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.560 And I know that they had him fall through some 40 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:54.520 breakaway glass, which my dad's shop at the time was 41 00:02:54.560 --> 00:03:00.360 at Fox Studios. They made the breakaway glass for the 42 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:04.400 the windows that we're breaking, and they make breakaway furniture 43 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:11.240 and railings and staircases stuff like that, a bottle. 44 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.560 The bar, the bottles that they hid each over the head. 45 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:18.080 With yes, yes, And so they made they made all 46 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:21.639 of that glass out of it's a plastic, so it's 47 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:27.199 real lightweight and it shatters fairly well where it's not 48 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:31.120 sharp points at all. And they called it. He used 49 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:34.840 to call it sugar glass back there, candy glass in 50 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.960 early early twenties and thirties, but they've gone to a 51 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:44.319 chemical blend. Uh. It's a solid plastic bead that melts 52 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.039 at a high temperature and then it turns into a 53 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.199 clear liquid. And in my dad's shop, that's what I 54 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:55.240 learned how to do, is to pour those breakaway windows 55 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.840 and breakaway bottles. But anyway, the stuntman falls, it looked 56 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.599 like it could have been maybe twenty feet. 57 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:04.879 Yeah that's what I. 58 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:10.520 Yeah, I think it was about that and and below. 59 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:15.159 You know, they had they did have rear projection on 60 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:21.439 in the studio business. Now they're using computer graphics CGI. 61 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.680 So when they didn't have CGI, they had to rig 62 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:32.319 everything mechanically using cables and pulleys and uh, well you 63 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:36.240 name it. Anything the special effects guy needed to make, 64 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.439 he either could buy it off of a buddy of 65 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:43.519 his or he had to design and make things like that. Uh, 66 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:48.879 So they had this guy basically falling through the breakaway 67 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:54.120 plastic windows and the framework was probably a real lightweight 68 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:58.360 balsa wood that was painted to look like metal. Again, 69 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.480 I wasn't done the show at the time, but what 70 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:05.040 my dad had told me about it, that's that's one 71 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:09.199 of the ways. And he basically falls into a big 72 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:14.160 pile of cardboard boxes and foam pads that the stunt 73 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:18.160 people will set underneath him. So anytime you see a 74 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:23.360 stuntman falling, if he doesn't hit a table flying off 75 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:27.000 the stairway, he's going to be falling into boxes that 76 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:31.560 they don't show on the screen. So it's a lot 77 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:36.360 of safety safety factors involved in anything we did well. 78 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:43.600 Safety on the set, I am sure safety comes first 79 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:49.560 they as they make sure that they're pre rigging and 80 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:55.319 the pattern you wear and the object were you're supposed 81 00:05:55.360 --> 00:06:01.879 to go through it or it impacts your body is 82 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:09.279 from step A to step double Z is triples and 83 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.240 I understand that's the way it is. The reason I 84 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:16.879 mentioned that stunt that gag. In the opening of The 85 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:21.680 Fall Guy, they show a lot of famous stunts and 86 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:26.199 that was in every opening, and the Fall Guy was 87 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:31.279 a TV show based on the work of stuntmen and the. 88 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.040 Movie on that show. 89 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:39.279 All right, then give me a particular stunt that you gaffed. 90 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:46.959 Well special effects that I helped use. I was working 91 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:51.959 for a couple of special effects guys in my training years, 92 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:56.680 learning different techniques, and I had to log in so 93 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:01.879 many hours. This one was we had Fall Guy happening 94 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:05.319 at the UH at the st at Fox Studios, so 95 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:07.279 every once in a while I was working in the 96 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:14.079 shop that we built those gags. And well, let's see, 97 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:18.160 I guess on Fall Guy, Oh, we had they had 98 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:22.600 his truck crashed all the time. You know, the big roll, 99 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:24.480 the row bars on the back. 100 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.759 Start right there, start right there. I got a break 101 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:29.439 coming up in about a minute, but I want to 102 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:32.759 mention this. Okay, there was an episode of Fall Guy 103 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:38.879 where they showed identical trucks I think three trucks, yes, 104 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:44.680 and I'm assuming that was real for the producers. Producers 105 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:49.120 of that show, you had the three trucks out of 106 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:52.240 necessity for scenes. Let me take my break and we 107 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:54.480 can talk more about that when we come back. If 108 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.560 you want to call in and talk about special effects, 109 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:04.279 stunt work, gags and gaffes and things that you're curious 110 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:06.399 how they did it or maybe you know about one. 111 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:09.279 Give us a call six one, seven, two, five, four, 112 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.680 ten thirty eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty. 113 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:20.160 My guest Gary King, second generation special effects slash stunt coordinator. 114 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.959 You guys work for Fox. If I'm not mistaken, correct. 115 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.879 A lot of times, yes, many years. 116 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:32.080 Give us a call. Here at nights are time and 117 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:38.559 Temperature two fifty two fifteen nine fifteen, nineteen degrees. 118 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.600 Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World 119 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:47.440 Life Sense Studios on WBZ News Radio. 120 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:52.480 I'm Morgan. I've mentioned once or twice since eight o'clock Dan. 121 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:57.559 We'll be back on Wednesday, and he'll have a lot 122 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:05.440 of talking points over the past weekend to now five 123 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:10.200 inch snowstorm in Boston. Oh yeah, we've got a new president. 124 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:15.440 Trust me. Things that'll make the Dan Ray night side 125 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:20.320 show pop, So be aware of that. I'm just keeping 126 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:23.759 the microphone warm for him. And I've got my buddy 127 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:28.080 Gary King on and tell me about those three identical 128 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:30.360 trucks on fall Guy. 129 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:36.320 Well, the studios, like you said, they always have to 130 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:40.799 have a backup truck. The truck that usually didn't get 131 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:43.480 damaged and they would use it for close ups and 132 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:47.960 interior shots. Was called a hero h E R Hero 133 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.320 and the Hero truck. The Hero truck always looked in 134 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:57.320 excellent conditions. Then they would have the stand in stunt 135 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:03.000 truck and so Box Studios. Thence they ran I guess 136 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.279 Fall Guy lasted what maybe four years? 137 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:08.200 Five years lasted four seasons correct. 138 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:15.679 So they had a stockpile of wrecked pieces of trucks 139 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:21.000 all from that show, and we called that the boneyard. 140 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:25.200 So every studio lot has a boneyard. And when we 141 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:29.840 needed parts for vehicles in special effects or mechanics, we 142 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:32.720 always got to have access to some of those cars 143 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:36.240 that we could take parts from to make other things. 144 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:40.320 And it really came in handy. That was another specialty 145 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:44.759 of my dad's prop shop, Action Prop miniature shop. Actually, 146 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:53.559 they would take a brand new truck and put all 147 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:59.360 of the shiny roll cages, big wheels, everything around it, 148 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:04.840 and they would have times when that truck maybe would 149 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:07.960 break down for some reason. They because they had to, 150 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:11.039 you know, do quick starts and stops right, so they 151 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:14.799 would pull in the second truck and use that. Now, 152 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:20.799 if one of those trucks happens to crash unexpectedly. Then 153 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.559 they did have another truck that they could bring in. 154 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:25.559 It would take a little while for him to do it. 155 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:27.799 You know, somebody had to go rush and get the 156 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:31.480 truck that they hadn't planned on using for that time. 157 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.240 But anyway, that's that's how it works in the studios. 158 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:39.320 The boneyards where you are like our Walmart. They're like 159 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.639 a Walmart. You could go in and find any pieces 160 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.679 that you needed, and a lot of them that you didn't. 161 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:49.440 You've got a silly question, because sure, the dukes of Hazards, 162 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:56.600 that's the eight Dodge charger. They It looked to me 163 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.720 beat the heck out of that car, and I'm sure 164 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:06.919 it didn't survive as pristine as would look on an 165 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:13.639 episode a jump. They were constantly doing fifteen twenty foot 166 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:18.559 jumps with that vehicle. And I heard a rumor that 167 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:23.759 they had to search the country for sixty eight part 168 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:31.480 Dodge chargers. Yeah, either to have an extra one or 169 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.159 to be able to use it for parts. Were you 170 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.039 that show in that circumstance. 171 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.320 I'm familiar with the show. I never got to work 172 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.919 on it, but I'm familiar with it and it's it 173 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:48.000 was just like fall Guy. We had so many vehicles 174 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:52.559 at our disposal if we needed them, and so they 175 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:57.200 they would have that, oh that car, I'm sure when 176 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.919 it launches off it they would use have the special 177 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:05.480 effects crew beef up all of the suspension, put heavy 178 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:11.000 duty shocks, heavy duty shot absorbers, springs lifts, anything they 179 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:15.159 could think of to help that car survive. What would 180 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.080 be Let's say you take a car and you drive 181 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.840 it twenty miles an hour and you go up a 182 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:25.240 little one foot high ramp. When that car hits the 183 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:29.960 ground shortly, something's going to break. It's just that easy 184 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.399 for cars to break when they're not built to do 185 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.240 what they what they want them to do. 186 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:36.159 So we did. 187 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.440 We had to beef up I'm sorry. 188 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:44.600 On TV, any vehicle you see that was a regular vehicle, 189 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:47.639 the train Sam that James Carner. 190 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.519 Drove, Yeah, fifty seventy Bird. 191 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:57.399 That Dantanna drove in Vegas, that was a regular vehicle. 192 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:02.279 They had to do all kinds of things from driving 193 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:07.879 through gates to long jumps, and we would be fools 194 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:12.720 in the audience to believe that their car survived. And 195 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:16.360 I'm sure for an example, the fire Kit. The Firebird. 196 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:22.159 They must have had a teleo because the stuff kit shouldn't. 197 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:28.039 Be done exactly what they proved, They proved it on film. 198 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:33.600 Many times they bring bringing a new one. 199 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:38.000 Bringing the stunt, the stunt car devil. Let me take 200 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.000 I got a couple of phone calls lined up. Let's 201 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:45.960 go to Brighton first and speak to Glenn. Glenn, welcome 202 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:46.879 to night Side. 203 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:52.759 Yeah, Gary's my brother from another weather Okay, h listen, 204 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:59.440 Yeah you know what, Yeah, yeah, listen. I've always been 205 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:03.759 fascinating because, like like in these Star Wars movies, they 206 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.000 cut off a way of the hands, legs, throw people 207 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.960 into volcanic pits, and I'm just curious. I'm just curious 208 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:17.200 what goes into that, I mean, and the empire strikes. 209 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.519 I can tell you. I'll tell you what if it was. 210 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.240 If it was before computer graphics came out, which the 211 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:26.639 first one was, I want to say in the early 212 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.600 two thousands, that was the prequel. Maybe it was even 213 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.039 it was the earlier. It was in the in the nineties, 214 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:42.960 the early nineties, we had no how would I say computer, 215 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:45.360 I'm just trying to find I'm trying to find a 216 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:51.080 good good. 217 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:50.639 See, it was a good scene to talk about. 218 00:15:51.919 --> 00:16:00.039 Yes, well, CD, Yes. 219 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.480 Go ahead. I was gonna help you, but go ahead. 220 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:07.360 Oh no, can you please repeat the question so I 221 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:08.600 can get back on track. 222 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:16.440 You know, how do they assimilate cutting, chopping off whims, hands, arms, legs, 223 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.720 is throwing people into volcanic pits. 224 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.759 It can help you with the first part. And they 225 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.879 answered this question in one of the movies. A lightsaber 226 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:32.759 is so hot? Now follow along. This is what the 227 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:39.080 movie told us that it instantly characterizes the wound. So 228 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:43.720 when Luke had no blind cut off in the first 229 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:48.279 Star Wars movie, episode four, and Luke had his hand. 230 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.480 Tell us five it was five. The Empire stricks. 231 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:55.919 Okay, then an Empire strikes back. When he lost his hand, 232 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:01.559 the heat from the lightsaber potterized the wound. 233 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:03.600 Mm hmm. 234 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.920 So that's why there was no blood. That's why it 235 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:13.119 was a clean cut. Yeah. And the same with limbs and. 236 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:14.960 That that shot. 237 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.240 Oh that's new. I'm so I've heard that. I heard 238 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:22.200 that they made him have a bi on a cand. 239 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.799 No, they put a hand on him after the fact. 240 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:31.839 Oh, yes, there's uh, you know, Glenn, it was one 241 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:36.519 of those things that the the actor well before they 242 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:39.240 had c g I we had to rig something mechanically, 243 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:41.519 and to do that, they would make a body cast 244 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:45.839 of the actor and make an arm section that would 245 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:51.000 fit all his body style right, and they would they 246 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:54.160 would with certain camera angles you couldn't tell that that 247 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.400 wasn't his arm or his hand. We had to do 248 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:00.000 a gag like that in in Iceland on a movie 249 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:04.000 we called Icelandic Saga. We had to cut off like 250 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:08.799 a Viking warrior got his arm cut off. Well, they 251 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:13.440 brought an actor in that was missing part of his arm, 252 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:15.319 so we all we had to do was make an 253 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.920 extension and put long clothing on him and you couldn't 254 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:22.279 tell that it wasn't his arm. But we had blood 255 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:25.039 skirting out on that gags. We had to make that happen. 256 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:31.000 But basically they try to find riggings that look real, 257 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:37.039 that are easy to rig and not you know, not 258 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:39.680 cost as they want to keep. 259 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:50.279 That's the key. That's what CGI has helped, bigger budgets, cheaper, bigger, 260 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:51.960 cheaper gags. 261 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:53.799 What I said for. 262 00:18:55.799 --> 00:19:00.240 Computer graphics, well, what's. 263 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:04.920 The computer gee for the work graphics? I for the 264 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:06.039 word illustrated. 265 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:08.559 That makes sense? 266 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:10.920 I believe that does that help you, Glan. 267 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:11.839 Yeah. 268 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.319 Now, the first time I understood I rigged the gag 269 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:19.680 or that I worked on the show that had cg 270 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:26.359 I was when we did Aliens Tree, I believe it was. 271 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:33.200 It was called the Aliens Resurrection and CGI was coming 272 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.440 out to where they needed us to rig a gag, 273 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.200 underwater gag and it had to be ready by you know, 274 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:42.880 within a couple of days. We had to have it 275 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:45.960 ready so they could send it out country wide as 276 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:50.640 a teaser for movie. And that's how they generated their 277 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:57.599 you know followers. Was they released this computer graphic version 278 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:01.079 of the Aliens swimming underwater and blowing up. 279 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:08.039 That was Alien's three. Yes, Glenn, I hate to do it, 280 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:14.680 but with the ABC News, I've got hard time. So 281 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:17.400 you're saying good night to you and you learn something new. 282 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.920 Now you know what's the GI means? Take care? 283 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:22.319 Yeah, thank you, thank you. 284 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:26.279 You're welcome, Glenn and King. I'm going to put you 285 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:30.240 on hold and we'll come back to you. I've got 286 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.599 Phil in Boston next who wants to speak to you. Phil, 287 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:38.359 don't hang up. You've been put in Q so you'll 288 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:43.079 get your chance to speak to Gary King. Roughly in 289 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:46.720 a couple of minutes, so for everybody else, Gary will 290 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.359 be here till ten, then Dixie will be here for 291 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:53.279 two more hours. This is night Side. Your time nine 292 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:59.599 to thirty. Your temperature nineteen degrees. It's cold outside. Now 293 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:00.440 here's ABC. 294 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:06.799 It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news 295 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:08.359 Radio nine. 296 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:12.799 Five in the evening. It was a very very busy 297 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:18.880 day all across America. One o'clock in the afternoon, Donald 298 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:24.240 Trump officially took office. He is now our president for 299 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:30.880 the next four years. We had Martin Luther King Day, 300 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:35.240 Martin Luther King Junior. He was born on the fifteenth 301 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:39.960 of January, but they made it a Monday holiday that 302 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.680 they've done a number of holidays in the United States. 303 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:51.480 And Bruins and Celtics both beat up a California team. 304 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:55.839 Celtics beat up Golden State and the Sharks lost to 305 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:01.000 the Bruins. I'm here, Philliam for Dan Ray. I'm Morgan 306 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.799 Morgan White, Jr. My guest this hour is Gary King, 307 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:12.599 and Gary is the second generation Special effects Guru. Is 308 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:16.720 the word guru acceptable? Acceptable to you? 309 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:19.559 No sounds good to me? Man, That's fine, all right, 310 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:21.000 I appreciate it. 311 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.720 Let's take Phil from Boston. Who wants to talk making 312 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.400 special effects with you? Phil Hello. 313 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:35.079 In nineteen seventy when when they were filming Sense of Ohio, 314 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:38.559 I was an extra several of the shows. I was 315 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:40.839 in NOS station or filming the scene down. There's like 316 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:43.920 one hundred of us in the inside North stations somewhere. 317 00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:46.880 At that time, the trains are still there, the huge 318 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:51.440 stanchions in the on the ground. So they needed a blonde. 319 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:55.640 They said, we need a blonde stunt double, and I said. 320 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.839 The guy looked at me at yeah, be a stunt double. 321 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:01.279 I thought I was gonna be a for the stuntman. 322 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:06.119 I was a stuntman. They took me outside of this car. 323 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.559 I get into a car because I didn't must the 324 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.160 Mustang right. I had no idea what I was doing. 325 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:13.400 I had the young woman come in. The car is 326 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:16.039 driving and I said to her, despite just my luck, 327 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.359 I said. She said I was probably a stunt man. 328 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:21.319 I said, by seatbalt done, and she said yeah, with 329 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:24.559 the seatbalt on. She took off banging down the street 330 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:28.880 towards the Camill Street and the car come on. Those 331 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:32.119 park there with stage come out banging on us, and 332 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:35.799 we're heading right towards one of these stansions. I was unbelievable. 333 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:39.519 They shouldn't have done that good. They paid me fifty minutes. 334 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.680 I couldn't even killed. I was having a heart attack. 335 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:47.799 I'm sorry, you made dollars. 336 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:52.559 Fifty full pill tell you what I did expens for higher. 337 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.160 And there was a scene that was used in the 338 00:23:55.279 --> 00:24:01.960 opening where they had me no. This was next to 339 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:11.839 old granary burial grounds at the in and the scene 340 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:17.240 involved Spencer being shot at by quote unquote the bad guys. 341 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:21.039 So I was one of several people who had to 342 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:25.160 know had to scurry and flee because here we are 343 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:30.079 in the middle of a gunfight. They shot that scene 344 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:34.240 literally five or six times until the director was. 345 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.440 Happy with all of the action. 346 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:39.279 And I got fifty bucks from that. I didn't have 347 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:40.000 to be in the car. 348 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:47.920 That to me, you can't make a guy guys in 349 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.839 the Union. I should have got paid a lot of money. 350 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.599 I should have had. I should have been on the thing. 351 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.440 These are these the credits of the print out of Poles. 352 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:01.079 I don't know, I mean, I don't know that. What's 353 00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:01.880 your opinion of the. 354 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:03.920 Well? 355 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.720 I tell you I had to be a stuntman on 356 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:10.359 one show, and it was in Boston. I was working 357 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:13.559 with the coordinator I think was Spencer for Horr was 358 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:20.240 Brian Ritchie. Really good, good buddy of mine. And basically 359 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.559 all I had to do was act like somebody getting 360 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.759 arrested in the used to be the Big Dome where 361 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:31.000 they had that candy candy factory in South Boston. I 362 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:31.559 guess it was. 363 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.680 Yeah, I know of what you speak. 364 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:39.839 Yeah, we were filming inside. We were filming inside of 365 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:43.960 this big dome structure. And all I had to do 366 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.519 was be a bad guy that was thrown down on 367 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:51.079 the ground and handcuffed and taking off the set fifty bucks. 368 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.039 I didn't get paid. I didn't get paid fifty dollars 369 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:55.759 for that. 370 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:56.599 I get paid. 371 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:01.880 I got paid. Thank you. I got to thank you 372 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:08.079 for that one. They needed more guys. They need to 373 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:08.839 get more. 374 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:10.759 Guys to to do that gag. 375 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:14.319 That time. 376 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.079 Oh yeah, well I'm not in the Actors Union. I 377 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:24.240 was in the special effects. Uh yes, but you know 378 00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:27.839 what they did. They did pay quite well for some 379 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:29.720 of the things that they asked people to do. 380 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:30.599 Thank you. 381 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.119 That's really fun. I hate to say it, that's that's 382 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.519 hilarious that they. 383 00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.000 Got in that car and you're a stuntman. 384 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.960 I had somebody, you know, But it was an interesting 385 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:44.920 time and I'm glad I got you, and I'm sorry 386 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.559 about yob situation. Well yeah, at least we're all in 387 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.480 the same pack here, you know, all. 388 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.079 Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna bet. I know that what 389 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:57.000 I am about to say is a fact. You've got 390 00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:58.759 a videotape copy of that. 391 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:01.200 How I know? 392 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:02.920 But I wasn't. 393 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.640 I knew that you would have to go through whatever 394 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.799 you needed to go through to get a copy of 395 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:13.200 that episode. And you can't see yourself. 396 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.079 When things like a joke and I had a real 397 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.440 good pot acting different scene outside the Courthouse of Boston. 398 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:27.559 But I never thought I could ever sided. They right 399 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.079 down on the US and think what scene will you win? 400 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.039 What was the title of the show. I hadn't know 401 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.079