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<v Speaker 1>So let me let me just start with Tulsi Gabbert,

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<v Speaker 1>because you served as CI director for four years. What

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<v Speaker 1>would having her in charge or in the role of

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<v Speaker 1>Director of National Intelligence mean for the intelligence apparatus of

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<v Speaker 1>the US government.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's so much uncertainty about what miss Gabert

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<v Speaker 2>would bring to the job. As you pointed out, she

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<v Speaker 2>has been an apologist for vam putinshar Asad. So many

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<v Speaker 2>of her substant comments as well as previous actions, have

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<v Speaker 2>called into question whether or not she has a good

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of global politics in the US role.

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<v Speaker 3>There this guy, the leader of jab At al Nusra

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<v Speaker 3>in Syria that built the Islama fascist calife for Abu

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<v Speaker 3>Baker Aubag Daddy and caused a raq War three, the

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<v Speaker 3>gun that framed Donald Trump for Russia Gate, has opinions

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<v Speaker 3>on TV.

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<v Speaker 4>He also back channeled the the what I think was

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<v Speaker 4>the stand down orders on the Capitol police for J

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<v Speaker 4>six Like about that. I read about it, So I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's one hundred percent accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>But I ain't saying you're wrong. I'm just saying I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>That one sure, sure I wouldn't would have pass.

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<v Speaker 3>Him at all to Look, he was a communist in

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<v Speaker 3>his youth and then as as CIA director, he's guilty

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<v Speaker 3>of high treason. And I don't mean in a sense

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<v Speaker 3>of like Benedict Donald decided to spell out for the

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<v Speaker 3>British like change his loyalty to them. It's not that

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<v Speaker 3>Brennan was loyal to Al Qaeda, but he spent billions

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars back in them in Syria for years until

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<v Speaker 3>it blew up into the Caliphate. The fact that he

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<v Speaker 3>was able to frame Donald Trump for treason after that

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<v Speaker 3>ought to tell you anything and everything you need to

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<v Speaker 3>know about how corrupt the American system is.

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<v Speaker 4>That now who he works for?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and in almost twenty twenty five he gets to

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<v Speaker 3>go on TV and say what's right and wrong about who?

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to be kidding me. This guy's absolute disgrace.

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<v Speaker 3>Him and his entire family should have been banished from

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<v Speaker 3>America forever. He should be buried under the Supermax in Florence, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 3>and he will sit up there.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I was just gonna say hel. He also bragged

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<v Speaker 4>about back channeling, basically saying that he would not carry

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<v Speaker 4>out Donald Trump's orders and he was back channeling to

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<v Speaker 4>China in the last two months of Trump's presidency. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, granted, if this is a general or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>that I like, that's Oh you're thinking about Milly on

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<v Speaker 4>that one, right, Oh was that Mark Milly? Okay, my mistake,

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<v Speaker 4>So wait, let me.

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<v Speaker 3>Go back on Brennan because I want to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually that's important. But yeah, on Brennan. Brennan also, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>was involved. I'm not saying he directed the entire thing

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<v Speaker 3>because a lot of it was above board, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not there's not solid reporting on CIA's entire role in this,

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<v Speaker 3>although they clearly were involved, but he clearly had something

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<v Speaker 3>to do with the Midon revolution of twenty fourteen, and

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<v Speaker 3>most importantly, after the protesters had seized the government buildings

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<v Speaker 3>in the east of the country and after the after

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<v Speaker 3>the loss of Crimea in late March and into April

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty fourteen, it was John Brennan who got on

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<v Speaker 3>a plane and went to Kiev and told the interim

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<v Speaker 3>government to launch the war what they call the Anti

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<v Speaker 3>Terror Operation ATO was a massive They launched a war

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<v Speaker 3>against There had been no active war committed by the

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<v Speaker 3>dissenting side whatsoever right there, and it was Obama sent

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<v Speaker 3>Brennan to do that too. So not only is he

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<v Speaker 3>the leader of al Qaeda in Syria, he's the one who,

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<v Speaker 3>really he's the one man most responsible outside of Kiev

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<v Speaker 3>for Kiev's decision to launch that war against the dissenters

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<v Speaker 3>of the don Bass in the East in April of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fourteen. I have it in the book all the

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<v Speaker 3>exact dates he was in town. I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 3>he was there and gone on the twelfth, and the

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<v Speaker 3>war started on the fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I for those that don't know, Scott has a

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<v Speaker 4>great new book out called Provoked. I've plugged it on

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<v Speaker 4>my show one hundred times because I read it probably

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<v Speaker 4>a year and a half ago. But it is now available, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you got to reread it. It's totally different now, man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's way better.

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<v Speaker 4>I planned to reread it for the record, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>just the original draft I read was fantastic. Thanks you

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<v Speaker 4>long things. It armed me in a way that made

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<v Speaker 4>me a real problem for people because they they're pushing

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<v Speaker 4>all of this bullshit narrative and I'm like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 4>actually I don't have the recall that Dave does. But still,

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<v Speaker 4>the just the litany of evidence, particularly from the New

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<v Speaker 4>York Times and from State Department officials and the League

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<v Speaker 4>cables and everything else. It's just like it's such a

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<v Speaker 4>damning case. I really don't know how people continue to

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<v Speaker 4>argue against this position, but they do. Anyways, I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to ask you about the footage that's very famous of

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<v Speaker 4>John McCain and Lindsay Graham. I think it's twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>where they're talking about next year, we take the fight

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<v Speaker 4>to them. Obviously, the fight had already been taken to

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<v Speaker 4>the don Boss prior to that. So do you know

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<v Speaker 4>what they were specifically talking about and what operations happened

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<v Speaker 4>as a consequence of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And not to correct you, but just importantly for

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<v Speaker 3>their timeline here, this is in December of sixteen, so

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<v Speaker 3>this is when Obama's the lame duck and Trump has

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<v Speaker 3>won the election and won the election on explicitly getting

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<v Speaker 3>along with Russia, and he ostensibly should be in charge.

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<v Speaker 3>As you think John McCain would understand, since he ran

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<v Speaker 3>for president. I think he would think that if he

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<v Speaker 3>was the president, he would be the one to decide,

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<v Speaker 3>not some senator. But they go over there and they

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<v Speaker 3>brought Klobahar with them and they I think really all

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<v Speaker 3>they're really refering to is what they're going to attempt

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<v Speaker 3>to influence Trump to do in as many ways as

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<v Speaker 3>they can, and their pledge to make sure to do

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<v Speaker 3>their part in the US Senate to appropriate money for

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<v Speaker 3>the weapons to go to them, and just showing that,

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<v Speaker 3>like whatever you may have heard about the electoral process

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<v Speaker 3>happening in America and the new president's incoming president's position

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<v Speaker 3>on this issue, we promise you we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>sell you out. We're still on your side. And really

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<v Speaker 3>the new president's wishes be damned. This is the year,

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<v Speaker 3>Graham's as the year of offense. It's time to escalate now.

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<v Speaker 3>And which, of course all of this was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>productive and horrible for the people of Ukraine in every way.

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<v Speaker 4>Was was there a market increase in fighting after that meeting?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I don't know about that, Like i'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to go and correlate like ossee reports about you

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly this, and you know correlation there. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just want to point out real quick Trump did.

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<v Speaker 3>Go along though, I mean, they busted his balls, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they framed him for treason we could talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that, but they they they essentially cornered Trump into

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<v Speaker 3>escalating arm sales to Ukraine to prove what a trader

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't And so Obama had sold them some weapons

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump sold them much more and really helped to

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<v Speaker 3>cause the problem that broke out under Biden. Not that

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<v Speaker 3>Biden did the right thing for his first year in power,

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<v Speaker 3>he absolutely did not, but Trump's government And believe me,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a whole section of Russia Gate in the book,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm the first one to say it was the

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<v Speaker 3>US government versus their elected president on the issue of

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<v Speaker 3>Russia for four years there still he was the man

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<v Speaker 3>in the chair, and if he'd been strong enough in

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, I totally agree, and a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 4>theorizing that the current increase in I guess provocations over

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<v Speaker 4>the past ten days are about essentially cornering Trump in

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<v Speaker 4>so that he can't exit, because if you get putin

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<v Speaker 4>to do some sort of crazy escalation as a response

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<v Speaker 4>before Trump even takes power, well he comes into power,

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<v Speaker 4>he can't immediately negotiate peace. He's going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>be the tough guy, right, I've always viewed what well,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe, I mean that could be the thesis,

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<v Speaker 4>right for the reason behind some of these escalations. I've

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<v Speaker 4>always theorized that the entire Russian collusion hoax, as we've detailed.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to go through all the evidence, but

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<v Speaker 4>was about basically realizing that Donald Trump is probably going

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<v Speaker 4>to look at this conflict, or look at the relationship

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<v Speaker 4>that we have with Russia and not want to escalate things,

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<v Speaker 4>not want to give Ukraine munitions, and probably not want

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<v Speaker 4>to inch ever closer towards war with Russia. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>think that's what Russia collusion was all about. I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it's about getting Hillary Clinton into the White House, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think they pivot and then they use it immediately

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<v Speaker 4>to try and continue the plan that would have been

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<v Speaker 4>pushed by Hillary Clinton. Anyways, Is is that your read

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<v Speaker 4>of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, it's interesting because they should have framed

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<v Speaker 3>him for something else, right, If Russia was their problem,

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<v Speaker 3>they should have fraightened him for treason with Turkey or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but they kind of gave away the

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<v Speaker 3>whole game of what their problem was and what they

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<v Speaker 3>were trying to do they hurt him, And he should

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<v Speaker 3>have played mister businessman knowing well, first of all, he

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<v Speaker 3>should have known what he was up against, and then

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<v Speaker 3>second of all, he therefore then should have played his

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<v Speaker 3>cards much closer to his chest, and he could have said, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that we can have a reasonable relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>Russia in the same kind of way that Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 3>had said it. We're going to try to do this

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<v Speaker 3>reset and we're going to try to figure out if

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<v Speaker 3>we can get along. But he's not like that. He's

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. So everything he says is such hyperbally that

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<v Speaker 3>it drove them nuts because you know, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just saying that everything they ever did was wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's his argument for election, is that the Bush

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<v Speaker 3>Clinton consensus cannot be allowed to continue because everything they've

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<v Speaker 3>touched has turned to dirt. Well, that's everything both parties

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<v Speaker 3>leadership have done for the last twenty thirty years. He's

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<v Speaker 3>talking about there and all their staffers too, and they

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<v Speaker 3>all took it real personal. He was really insulting them.

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<v Speaker 3>And on top of that, he would say, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why we need NATO anyway. If Germany doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to increase the amount of money they're going to spend

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<v Speaker 3>on weapons, Why should we have to pay for it all?

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<v Speaker 3>Which he's just playing hardball. Did he see his tweet today?

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, until you stop ventanil from coming to the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, I hereby announce a new ten percent tariff

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<v Speaker 3>on everything from China. See you soon. Guys like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy plays hardball. Okay, that's how he does it. Germany,

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<v Speaker 3>why should I subsidize you? Spend more money on your

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<v Speaker 3>plans and your tanks, or I'm not spending another done?

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<v Speaker 3>Because what would Biden or McCain or whatever say. They

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<v Speaker 3>would say, Germany, please spend more money.

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<v Speaker 4>But don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna pick up your slack no matter what. Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump doesn't see it that way. We're not picking up

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<v Speaker 3>your slack. We demand that you live up to your agreement,

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<v Speaker 3>which is suspend at least two percent of your GDP

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<v Speaker 3>you could participate in it. Otherwise, what good are you

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<v Speaker 3>in our military alliance? Right? But all they heard was

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<v Speaker 3>and he's just not that. You know, he was rude

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we can get along with him. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 3>of saying like Obama would have been more cautious. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing, Donald Trump just doesn't talk that way.

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<v Speaker 3>So the way that he did talk about it, you

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<v Speaker 3>hear the way they go. He loves dictators just because

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<v Speaker 3>heard Brennan say about Tulsi there and honestly like he's

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<v Speaker 3>a lying piece of crap, but also like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>these people do say what they mean a lot, and

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<v Speaker 3>for Putin and Asad, But I mean, what does that

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<v Speaker 3>even mean? Dude? Has she ever disagreed with you about

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<v Speaker 4>Not that I've heard.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy's not just an apologist. This guy is guilty

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<v Speaker 3>of direct treasonous material support for al Qaeda terrorists in Syria.

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<v Speaker 3>He did it. It wasn't his opinion. He was the

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<v Speaker 3>for Obama. And she was saying no, she.

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<v Speaker 4>Had a saw firsthand how crazy it was right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I was explaining this to a lady on the

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<v Speaker 3>So I assume that people know too much about stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me slow down and explain this real quick here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>for you, everybody, pull up the brilliantly perfectly detailed map

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<v Speaker 3>of the Middle East you have in your head. There's

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<v Speaker 3>Iran and there's Iraq, and there's Syria. Iraq is stuck

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<v Speaker 3>is Iran. Okay, and is and Iran is ruled by

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<v Speaker 3>Saite clerics. Okay. George Bush invades in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>three and he fights an eight year war. Clint, and

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<v Speaker 3>what does he do. He puts the Ayah Tola's men

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<v Speaker 3>Saddam Bush killed him and replaced him with the Ayah

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<v Speaker 3>Tolas Sistani and his guys. Okay, that's who's ruled Iraq

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<v Speaker 3>ever since. Oops, well western, I mean a part of me,

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<v Speaker 3>eastern Iraq. The west, the predominantly sunny West, is more

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<v Speaker 3>shits didn't exercise that much control over it. But then

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<v Speaker 3>Obama comes and that whole Sunni based insurgency that our

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<v Speaker 3>guys fought in Iraq War II. That Tulsi Gabbard witnessed

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<v Speaker 3>that fight, and yes, America did fight. She Heites on

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<v Speaker 3>limited occasions during that war, but almost entirely that war

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<v Speaker 3>was fought for the Sites and against what was called

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<v Speaker 3>the Sunni based insurgency, which included Al Keada in Iraq.

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<v Speaker 3>And she was at a medical unit at Ballad Air

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<v Speaker 3>young boys dying, screaming for their mama with their guts

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<v Speaker 3>in their hand. Okay, after getting blown apart by roadside bombs,

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<v Speaker 3>she went through there's a reason she's got that gray

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<v Speaker 3>in her hair like Nancy. On Friday the thirteenth, man

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<v Speaker 3>Is she went through some real shit over there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Then two years later Barack Obama and his government say, no,

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<v Speaker 3>the Sunni based insurgency led by al Qaeda in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 3>that are our enemies in Iraq War two for the

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<v Speaker 3>last eight years. Now there are friends now in Syria.

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<v Speaker 3>They're the moderate rebels and instead of Al Qaeda, we

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<v Speaker 3>call them Al Nusra. And yet they're still head shopping

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<v Speaker 3>bin lodennit suicide bomber lunatics. They literally are Al Qaeda

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<v Speaker 3>in Iraq, in Syria. Now, Tulsi Gabbard, unlike every other

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<v Speaker 3>idiot in Washington who's just going off of the email

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning or the Washington Post consensus, she understands

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<v Speaker 3>what they don't understand. Who's the shirts and who's the skins.

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<v Speaker 3>To them, they go, oh, well, we're not talking about Iraq.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about Syria. We're not talking about the terrorists.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the moderate rebels. Whatever they think they're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about. They don't know what they're talking about. She

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<v Speaker 3>does know what they're talking about that they don't. They're

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<v Speaker 3>saying al Qaeda in Iraq, in Syria are the good

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<v Speaker 3>guys now, and she's saying no. She sat there and

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<v Speaker 3>watched Jimmy die of their roadside bombs, and so she's

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<v Speaker 3>not going along with that, and she took a stand

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<v Speaker 3>on that. And in other words, Clinton, Obama's policy, Obama

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<v Speaker 3>and Brennan's in Syria was insane, dude, it was madness. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>George Bush gave Western Iraq to al Qaeda on accident, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's stupid. Obama deliberately gave them ten billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>and fought a war four of them in Syria, dude, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>with Israel and Turkey and Cutter and Saudi all working

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<v Speaker 3>together to back these kooks. Why, mostly because Israel and

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<v Speaker 3>also the Saudis hate Iran and hate the shea Heites.

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<v Speaker 3>And if w Bush put the sites up two pegs

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<v Speaker 3>in Baghdad, then Barack Obama would take them down a

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<v Speaker 3>peg in Damascus. And Tulsi Gabbard knew better than that,

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<v Speaker 3>because she knew that meant the Saudis don't have an army.

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<v Speaker 3>The Saudi's army are Bin Laden Nite suicide bombers, shock troops.

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<v Speaker 3>And she said, no, I don't care how much we

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<v Speaker 3>Just like Mike Lynn. Mike Flynn is like, bomb Tehran,

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<v Speaker 3>but don't back o Sama in Syria just because you

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<v Speaker 3>hate Tehran. Just bomb Tehran then, but why are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to back Osama? Man Am I making sense here?

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<v Speaker 3>Tulci Gabbard was making sense. She was making sense that

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<v Speaker 3>John Brennan was guilty of treason. And so now that's

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<v Speaker 3>what John Brennan calls her an Assaud apologist, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Assad was the secular dictator who saved that country from

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<v Speaker 3>the Pinlad Knights, as she thought he should. She didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say we should arm a SOD. She didn't say America

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<v Speaker 3>should a lie with ASD. She said America should not

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<v Speaker 3>back terrorists against ASAD. She's one hundred percent right about.

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<v Speaker 4>Them, a very reasonable moderate perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>To be absolutely right. And by the way she is,

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<v Speaker 3>she is. And I should say I should preface this

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<v Speaker 3>with and I'll make all the truthers mad and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care, like I truly am terrified about CADO terrorism.

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<v Speaker 3>These people say that al Qaeda is nothing but sock

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<v Speaker 3>puppets as the CIA. I don't think that's true. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Reagan and Bush and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, even

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<v Speaker 3>George Bush Junior a little bit, especially Barack Obama back

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<v Speaker 3>these guys, but that doesn't mean they control every single

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<v Speaker 3>thing that they do. Remember they suicide bomb seven CIA

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<v Speaker 3>officers in Afghanistan. That guy, right, like these you create

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<v Speaker 3>a Frankenstein monster, doesn't mean he's remote control.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>These are human men who know how to kill people,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's they're only job skill, right, And the world

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<v Speaker 3>is lousy with them. And they're heavily religious and ideological.

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<v Speaker 3>Not all of them are religious, but they're heavily politically

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<v Speaker 3>radical on the principle of killing Westerners until we leave

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<v Speaker 3>them the hell alone.

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<v Speaker 4>And who would have thought that arming, funding, and training

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of radical dudes that are ready to off

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<v Speaker 4>themselves to take out their political enemies would be a

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<v Speaker 4>bit perilous if they get out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and look, people think, well, you know, Reagan

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<v Speaker 3>backed them in the eighties and Rambo three days in Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know a little bit of this. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's really much worse. As I show in the

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<v Speaker 3>far more in Chechnia than I even had previously known.

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<v Speaker 3>Although I knew a little bit about it.

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<v Speaker 4>That was that was revelatory for me too, because I

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<v Speaker 4>really didn't understand how they had used basically these these

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<v Speaker 4>Muslim extremists, you know in scare quotes, to basically fight Russia. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, but now wait back to my crazy because here's

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<v Speaker 3>the thing, man, Look, the primary motivation for September eleventh

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<v Speaker 3>was America bombing a rock from bases in Saudi and

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<v Speaker 3>supporting Israel in their ruthless violence against the Palestinians and

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<v Speaker 4>And you're an Osama bin Laden apologist. This is straight

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<v Speaker 4>from his letter? How could you do this?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly? So what it is is this? And I really

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<v Speaker 3>understand I guess how people are. I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>quite pretend to be this dumb myself, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>hear it a lot. So I'll just say, like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>now I really would like to win over, right who

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<v Speaker 3>just can't help but think I just hate America or

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of thing. But that's not what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how could anyone love Osama bin Laden the

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<v Speaker 3>guy butchered thousands of Americans, And no, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>George Bush did that. I think Ben Lauden did that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hold him guilty for that. And I and

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<v Speaker 3>that's the reason that I hate and fear Al Qaeda.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm terrified, man, that they could do another September

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<v Speaker 3>type attack, a September eleventh type attack, or something even

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<v Speaker 3>much less that could still be so horrific. And like

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<v Speaker 3>any man in this country, you know, at least heterosexual man,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about the but like any of us,

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<v Speaker 3>can come up with day dreams of random violence against

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<v Speaker 3>soft targets that are so easy. Grab a rifle, hit

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<v Speaker 3>a school, grab a gasoline truck, crash it into a ballgame,

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<v Speaker 3>go into a church with a bulldozer, do something horrible

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<v Speaker 3>to somebody. It's easy, but to do something.

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<v Speaker 4>Add to that the fact that the border has been

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<v Speaker 4>are totally unvetted that have come in over the past

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<v Speaker 4>four years. Do you think there's nobody that's dangerous in that?

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, man, for people who's skeptical about that,

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<v Speaker 3>like there are times in previous eras where look, man,

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<v Speaker 3>only people coming across the border are Mexican migrant laborers.

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<v Speaker 3>Who cares. But that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Now. What we're doing people from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Pouring across that border. And you know, there's a guy

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<v Speaker 3>loaden night hunter guy, good guy, not he's great on everything,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's a good guy. And he recently put out

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<v Speaker 3>a thing called isis K determined to attack inside the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, right, which is a takeoff on the CIA

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<v Speaker 3>warning to Bush from August sixth, two thousand and one,

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<v Speaker 3>bin Laden determined to strike inside the United States. And

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, look, man, they just rounded up like these

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<v Speaker 3>five weird random Tajiks around the country who should not

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<v Speaker 3>have been here and are directly tied to these dangerous groups.

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't know exactly what they were doing. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they were here coordinated on a thing, maybe they weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>We were not really sure. But this is a huge problem,

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<v Speaker 3>what you're saying about the wide open border. Nobody's checking

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<v Speaker 3>IDs and you got people coming from all over Central

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<v Speaker 3>from a CIA slash Afghan intelligence operation to recruit refugees

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<v Speaker 3>from the Pakistani Taliban to fight against Pakistan for them

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<v Speaker 3>of course that blew up in their face and they

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<v Speaker 3>ended up hoisting the black flag and declaring their loyalty

418
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<v Speaker 3>to the Islamic State. And these are the guys who

419
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<v Speaker 3>keep attacking Russia, by the way, and they're ruthless killers.

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<v Speaker 4>One quick note that, yeah, no longer a majority. It's

421
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<v Speaker 4>not even fifty plus percent of Mexicans that are coming

422
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<v Speaker 4>across the southern border.

423
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<v Speaker 3>Wow is the.

424
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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, because you have I mean people like historically

425
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<v Speaker 4>that was what it was. I just want to emphasize

426
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<v Speaker 4>the people this paradigm is different. The average illegal immigration

427
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<v Speaker 4>rate was three to five hundred thousand annually. We're now

428
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<v Speaker 4>talking three to five million annually. Potentially. This is ten

429
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<v Speaker 4>x of what the historical norm was throughout most of

430
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<v Speaker 4>the two thousands. This is not organic. It is very,

431
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<v Speaker 4>very dangerous. And I think that, I mean, we found

432
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<v Speaker 4>out during the election that the public was not going

433
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<v Speaker 4>to put up with this either. And I think that

434
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<v Speaker 4>the you know, Trump, despite the fact that I thought

435
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<v Speaker 4>his build the Wall rhetoric was kind of unnecessary back then,

436
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<v Speaker 4>I do understand why people find that very appealing today.

437
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<v Speaker 4>Not to say that I necessarily support the wall, but

438
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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying. I want to I want

439
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<v Speaker 4>to ask you real quick about the the escalations, because

440
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<v Speaker 4>this is really important. I've been I've actually I've comforted

441
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<v Speaker 4>by you, which is rare, during your interviews of late

442
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<v Speaker 4>that you seem to be much more optimistic that this

443
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<v Speaker 4>thing will not get out of hand in the next

444
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<v Speaker 4>few months than I am. Just to lay out what

445
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<v Speaker 4>I've what I've seen, We've we've seen basically red lines

446
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<v Speaker 4>drawn by the Biden administration and and the Russian side

447
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<v Speaker 4>for the past two years that that promises, you know,

448
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<v Speaker 4>we're not going to send troops, We're not going to

449
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<v Speaker 4>train with limited money. That's it. Uh. And then it

450
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<v Speaker 4>then it becomes F sixteen's, and it becomes high Mars,

451
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<v Speaker 4>and it becomes uh, what's the next attack? Ems? And

452
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<v Speaker 4>now it's it's potential. I mean, these are this According

453
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<v Speaker 4>to the New York Times, they're they're considering giving them

454
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<v Speaker 4>nuclear weapons. I doubt that that'll happen, but this is

455
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<v Speaker 4>so obviously dangerous, and with them in a lame duck period,

456
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<v Speaker 4>with Donald Trump and many in his orbit promising to

457
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<v Speaker 4>de escalate as soon as he gets into power. I

458
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<v Speaker 4>fear terribly. Especially there was reports just yesterday that the

459
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<v Speaker 4>French and the English We're gonna send troops into fucking Ukraine.

460
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, is that not like if if that happens

461
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<v Speaker 4>and they get shot at and killed? Is that? Is

462
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<v Speaker 4>that an Article five? I don't even know how it works. No,

463
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<v Speaker 4>it's not.

464
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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no it's not. And even Article five is

465
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<v Speaker 3>not automatic. Article five says that the countries do what

466
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<v Speaker 3>they determine as best.

467
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<v Speaker 4>But you know that they're gonna use it as if

468
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<v Speaker 4>like this.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Is a media it's a huge risk. And I'm sorry,

470
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<v Speaker 3>just to wrap up that other pointer I'm gonna be weird,

471
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<v Speaker 3>is I'm afraid about Cado attacking us over what Israel's

472
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<v Speaker 3>doing right now, and I think Americans really should be.

473
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<v Speaker 3>And quite frankly, Clint, I'm I don't want to get

474
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<v Speaker 3>you in trouble with your people and whatever, man, but

475
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<v Speaker 3>in a very real and important way. Nine to eleven,

476
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<v Speaker 3>Truther or bullshit is the limited hangout? You know they

477
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<v Speaker 3>say that blowback theory is the limited hangout? Really, Dick

478
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Cheney and Israel did it or whatever, But no, that's

479
00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:53.039
<v Speaker 3>the limited hangout, because if it was just the West

480
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.519
<v Speaker 3>that did it to themselves, then you're protected from the

481
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<v Speaker 3>important knowledge that no, they did it because of what

482
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<v Speaker 3>Israel doing to innocent men, women and children in Palestine

483
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<v Speaker 3>and Lebanon. That was what bin Laden used to recruit

484
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<v Speaker 3>those guys to turn against the United States. I mentioned

485
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<v Speaker 3>Ali Sufon. Ali Sufon wrote that the Chechen terrorists asked

486
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<v Speaker 3>bin Laden, why are you mad at America. They've been

487
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<v Speaker 3>so nice to us, They helped us in Afghanistan and

488
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<v Speaker 3>Bosnia and Chechnya. You want to attack them? And Ossam

489
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:24.519
<v Speaker 3>ban La says, yeah, you just don't understand, dude. He's

490
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<v Speaker 3>got a broader vision. He's upset about what's going on

491
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<v Speaker 3>in Mesopotamia and on the Holy Arabian Peninsula and in

492
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<v Speaker 3>Jerusalem and in southern Lebanon. And so Bill Clinton bribing

493
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<v Speaker 3>them in one place doesn't buy his loyalty over something else.

494
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<v Speaker 3>And so when al Qaeda or nothing but automatons of

495
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 3>the West, then you're not really in danger, Clint, unless

496
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<v Speaker 3>Dick Cheney sends them against you. Right, But if they

497
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.279
<v Speaker 3>are free agents and they can kill you if they

498
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<v Speaker 3>want to, then you are being put at risk right now. Okay,

499
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.480
<v Speaker 3>like the nine eleven plant originally was gonna be ten

500
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.119
<v Speaker 3>planes in ten targets. They're gonna hit the Sears tower.

501
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna hit the library tower in LA. They could

502
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 3>have hit nuclear power plans. Imagine somebody crash a seven

503
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 3>fifty seven into a nuclear power plant. You could cause

504
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 3>a super molten core that nobody can get to that

505
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 3>just sinks down into the earth and spews out radioactive

506
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 3>whatever forever. You could have a problem, man. And we

507
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 3>should not be allowing our government to pick this fight.

508
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<v Speaker 3>And this is the point I was gonna make about

509
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<v Speaker 3>Tulsa Gabbert. She's gonna be the head of intelligence, uh

510
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.319
<v Speaker 3>director of National Intelligence. She better be an absolute hawk

511
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<v Speaker 3>on defending this country from beIN loadenites. And I think

512
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 3>it's so important and lucky and good. It's the best thing,

513
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.839
<v Speaker 3>honestly is the best thing Obama ever did was kill

514
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<v Speaker 3>Osama because his successors have just never had the stature

515
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<v Speaker 3>to command, the respect to command, because he's not really

516
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<v Speaker 3>in charge of a government, right. Everybody who does what

517
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.279
<v Speaker 3>he says, it's only because they want to and they

518
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.440
<v Speaker 3>just didn't want to do it as Zawahari said, and

519
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:01.039
<v Speaker 3>they didn't want to do with whatever Hamsei, whatever that

520
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 3>crep said, the way that they would obey the Sheikh.

521
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<v Speaker 3>So thank god he's not here to direct them. But

522
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 3>there's a real danger that. But see, here's the problem

523
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 3>with Tulsea Gabbard is she's the double edged sword on

524
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 3>that is because she thinks that the Sunnis are completely nuts.

525
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:18.599
<v Speaker 3>She was saying the other day, I think this is

526
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<v Speaker 3>a new quote. Hamas wants to take over the world. Hammas,

527
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.960
<v Speaker 3>come on, man, like they're the strongest gang and an

528
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Israeli prison. They're not a state, and they certainly are

529
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 3>not a threat to take over Israel, much less Egypt

530
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:39.720
<v Speaker 3>and Jordan and Saudi and et cetera. The Muslim Brotherhood

531
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:43.359
<v Speaker 3>was created and suckered by the British and the Americans,

532
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 3>and the Saudi Arabians are loyalist allies over there since

533
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 3>World War Two. The Muslim Brotherhood. I'm not saying America

534
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 3>outright controls it, but I'm just saying the idea that

535
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<v Speaker 3>somehow that they're going to take over the whole Middle

536
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 3>East in some califate only if Bush and Obama build

537
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 3>it for them. Is the Middle East in danger of

538
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 3>having a calipe. As long as Tulsea Gabbert is there

539
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 3>to keep them from siding with the suicide bombers, there's

540
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.240
<v Speaker 3>no reason that we have to go out there and

541
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 3>hunt them and kill them all and make matters worse

542
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 3>and launch another w Bushy in war on terrorism, which

543
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:19.440
<v Speaker 3>is what I'm afraid that she and Sebastian Gorka and

544
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 3>some of these others are going to do. I think

545
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<v Speaker 3>if I wherever there's a Sunni with a rifle, they

546
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 3>can say they're all been lot Knights and they're all

547
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 3>coming for us, even when a lot of times they

548
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 3>have more parochial concerns, and what we should really be

549
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 3>doing is backing the hell off and not picking that

550
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 3>particular fight. But I certainly hope that she is as

551
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>crazy paranoid about them hitting targets in this country as

552
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 3>I think she is, because I think that that nothing

553
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.000
<v Speaker 3>less than that is going to keep us safe from them, dude.

554
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 3>And look not that you or me or your audience

555
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 3>members are probably likely to get hurt in anything. It's

556
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 3>a big country, but is America likely to get hit

557
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.160
<v Speaker 3>by ben lod Knights? And I don't mean like an

558
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 3>FBI and trap but like real aspen lot nights killing people. Yes,

559
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.400
<v Speaker 3>and and if not, fine, but I'm terrified of it.

560
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 3>I think everybody should be. These guys are incredibly dangerous

561
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 3>and there's got to be tens of thousands of them

562
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 3>with a vendetta if only they can have an opportunity

563
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.279
<v Speaker 3>to express it. And I'm sorry, what was your question

564
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<v Speaker 3>about Ukraine?

565
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<v Speaker 4>No, this is a hard this is a hard pivot.

566
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<v Speaker 4>But this is the the experimental or brand new weapon

567
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:27.759
<v Speaker 4>that was deployed by Russia. Yes, just earlier last week.

568
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this thing is unbelievable. It's called the intermediate

569
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<v Speaker 4>range ballistic missile. I've never seen anything like it. It

570
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 4>is essentially an ICBM, but it's just a little bit

571
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<v Speaker 4>shorter range. Is that? Is that a fair read of it?

572
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<v Speaker 4>But they they didn't obviously they didn't apply a nuclear

573
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<v Speaker 4>warhead to it. What are your what are your thoughts

574
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<v Speaker 4>about this? Was this just a flex?

575
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm well, it's certainly a flex. I don't know about

576
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 3>just one or not. I think you know, it's certainly

577
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<v Speaker 3>an answer to the attack. IMS right, and people are

578
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<v Speaker 3>afraid he's going to start labing nukes. He's going to

579
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 3>attack London and he's going to do all this stuff.

580
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<v Speaker 3>This seems to be the answer to that is check

581
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.559
<v Speaker 3>out my new hypersonic. Now, I have to tell you

582
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 3>I've not done the research. I don't know what we

583
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.599
<v Speaker 3>all know about this. I know that the Ukrainians originally

584
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 3>said they were ICBMs, which is stupid, and I know

585
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people parroted that because they're stupid. But

586
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.039
<v Speaker 3>we are you going to fire a three stage intercontinental

587
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 3>ballistic missile for three hundred miles. That's not gonna work.

588
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess it's conceivably possible you can fire it. Yeah,

589
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's there's a certain parabolo that'll do it.

590
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think they're wasting their long range.

591
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<v Speaker 4>Miss It would have been for a for a test purpose,

592
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<v Speaker 4>to demonstrate your capacity.

593
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, and that is some of the Americans I'd talked

594
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:43.160
<v Speaker 3>about in the Obama years. Maybe we'll put conventional warheads

595
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:45.480
<v Speaker 3>on three stage rockets. The problem is that looks like

596
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>an incoming nuke. You don't want to do that exactly.

597
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, just because I did do some research on this,

598
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 4>what I read, I mean keeping in mind this is

599
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.000
<v Speaker 4>all It's like with the Russian black ops. So we

600
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.160
<v Speaker 4>don't really know the details. But what I read is

601
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<v Speaker 4>that someone estimated that it was probably going ten x

602
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<v Speaker 4>the speed of sound, which would be over six thousand

603
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 4>miles per hour. Is that I assume there is no

604
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:09.880
<v Speaker 4>there is no air defense they can stop that. Am

605
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 4>I wrong? Do you? Do you think that it's stoppable?

606
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 3>I need to know more about it. I look, I mean,

607
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 3>I seebms come in from outer space going like mock eight, right,

608
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know exactly how many they alleged.

609
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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, they alleged mock ten, which is.

610
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<v Speaker 3>Like, okay, yeah, insane, so yes and now and so

611
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<v Speaker 3>I don't I also don't know. You can't tell from

612
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 3>that footage. I don't know if these are these new

613
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 3>so called hypersonic glide vehicles. Again, a rocket coming in

614
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 3>from space is literally hypersonic. It's a ballistic missile and

615
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 3>biballistic that means free fall, right, It's not rocket powered anymore.

616
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 4>It's it's falling.

617
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 3>But it's coming in from space at ultra high speed

618
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<v Speaker 3>and so well that I think they already.

619
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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a merve just like or like a

620
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 4>multi targeting because that's what you saw with.

621
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<v Speaker 3>Right, So MERV. MERV means multiple independently targetable re entry

622
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.200
<v Speaker 3>vehicles right now. Usually that would mean like essentially just

623
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<v Speaker 3>a simple warhead floating down right, falling down until it

624
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<v Speaker 3>hits its correct altitude. It could be the case that

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<v Speaker 3>you have hypersonic glide vehicles that are merved that are

626
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<v Speaker 3>you know, so you have one rocket, one ICVM then

627
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<v Speaker 3>delivers five of these hypersonic gliders that can make me,

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<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, hit things in further directions. I really don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about that, but I guess I'm trying to say

630
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<v Speaker 3>is I did see some hype where people saying, oh,

631
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<v Speaker 3>these are total game changers. Certainly, it would depend on

632
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<v Speaker 3>how many of them they have.

633
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how many they have? Can it really carry a nuke?

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<v Speaker 4>If it can and it's unstoppable, well that's a game changer. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing the game changer that I read and which

636
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<v Speaker 3>I think this is probable overstated. I really don't know,

637
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<v Speaker 3>but I'm skeptical of this, was that they're they're fast

638
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 3>enough and powerful enough that they can destroy hardened silos

639
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:14.199
<v Speaker 3>with conventional warheads. So in other words, we could we

640
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 3>could be in a war. They could obliterate our nuclear

641
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 3>force without using nuclear weapons, and so then that would

642
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>make us the bad guys for using nukes first against them,

643
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 3>and hopefully we would be uh, you know, politically restrained

644
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 3>from doing that. But they would still be able to

645
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 3>sink all our carriers and whatever. But the things they

646
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 3>could sink all our carriers anyway, carriers have been obsolete

647
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 3>for a very long time. It's pretty easy to take

648
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 3>out that black top and on top, if not sink them,

649
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 3>to at least put them out of commission.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think everyone recognizes that that Ukraine is losing

651
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 4>this war. It's impossibility that they win this war barring

652
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 4>NATO troops actually coming in full bar and if NATO

653
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 4>troops come in full boar were likely in World War Three.

654
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<v Speaker 4>It seems as if this gambit has no paid off.

655
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.679
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's paid off for the military industrial complex.

656
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 4>They've made a fortune, but in terms of like actually

657
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.800
<v Speaker 4>making progress, there has been none. Russia, in my opinion,

658
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 4>has not demonstrated a real desire to take over the

659
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<v Speaker 4>rest of Ukraine. It seems as if they want that

660
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 4>land bridge to Crimea, they're done after that. They want

661
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 4>to have a fucking bearrier between them and NATO. Basically

662
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 4>all of their stated goals from opening salvo to today

663
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 4>seem to have stayed static, which makes me think that

664
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<v Speaker 4>they're probably telling the truth. Have I gotten anything wrong

665
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 4>so far? Anything you disagree with?

666
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they're the only quibble is not on

667
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 3>your larger theme at always just say they seem to

668
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 3>have been willing to settle for just the down Bass,

669
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<v Speaker 3>that is, Donyaska and Luhansk, and instead, after the offensive

670
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<v Speaker 3>of September twenty twenty two, Putin announced that he was

671
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<v Speaker 3>annexing two more Zaprosia. All of Zaprosia and all of

672
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 3>Kursans are claimed now by Russia, although they're not all

673
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<v Speaker 3>occupied by Russia, not all of the territory. These are

674
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 3>blasts or essentially large counties or large you know, provinces

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<v Speaker 3>within Ukraine.

676
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<v Speaker 4>And do you think do you think it's true that

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<v Speaker 4>he wants Kiev.

678
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.519
<v Speaker 3>No, I think he might want Odessa. People had asked

679
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 3>him about Odessa and he's like, yeah, it's nice there,

680
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 3>he got nice weather and things and whatever. It's certainly

681
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 3>a threat and the same for harkiev Y. Look I've

682
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 3>been saying, and not just me, everyone who knows better,

683
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 3>including you and many other people have been saying, all along,

684
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 3>quit while you're only this far behind. Yeah, right, And

685
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 3>there was you know, they did push the Russians back

686
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:43.000
<v Speaker 3>in September. It was the weekend of September eleventh, twenty

687
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.719
<v Speaker 3>twenty two, the first year of the war. They pushed

688
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:53.800
<v Speaker 3>the Russians out of Harkiev Province Oblast and into Luhansk

689
00:36:55.119 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 3>and they took back about half of Kurson. That was

690
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 3>the high water mark for Ukraine. It's been all bad

691
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 3>for them since then. They have done nothing to lose

692
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 3>men and lose territory. Since then. The only thing that

693
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 3>they can say is, well, we killed a lot of

694
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 3>Russians too, What does that have to do? They got more.

695
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.079
<v Speaker 4>You hear some of the American politicians and they say, well,

696
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 4>that's exactly what why this is good because they want

697
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 4>to see Russian you know, quote unquote weekend. But at

698
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 4>the same time, the war machine has been turned on

699
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 4>full speed and they've got to test out a whole

700
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 4>bunch of new munitions and blah blah blah. It's not

701
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 4>necessarily obvious that they're weakening Russia broadly speaking. That right,

702
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 4>But but here's here's the real question, then, because at

703
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 4>this junction. It seems as if this is a fool's

704
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 4>errand to pairrot one of your prior phenomenal books, what

705
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 4>is the fucking game plan, Scott? Like, what are they doing?

706
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Just said it? Send Russians home in coffins, body bags,

707
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:59.079
<v Speaker 3>body bags, coffins and body bags. That's that they all say,

708
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 3>over and over and over again. And kill Russians, make

709
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 3>the war costly for Russia. You know, David Ignatius was ignacious. No,

710
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm I forget which quote it was. Ignatius

711
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 3>put the Ukrainians in parentheses. The war has been great

712
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:20.360
<v Speaker 3>for and he's like considered the CIA spokesman at the

713
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Washington Post. So the war has been great for the US,

714
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Speaker 3>for you, for NATO, it's uh geez, we didn't know

715
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 3>if NATO is gonna have a purpose anymore, and now

716
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 3>he got a whole new thing for it to do.

717
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 3>And it's really been fantastic for that, and for convincing

718
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:39.280
<v Speaker 3>the Allies to armah. It's just been great for everyone.

719
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:41.079
<v Speaker 3>And then he literally in the Washington Post you can

720
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:45.559
<v Speaker 3>find it. He literally puts in parentheses except for the Ukrainians.

721
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.360
<v Speaker 3>And there's another one where the guy. It was a senator,

722
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:51.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure. And the quotes in the book where

723
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.800
<v Speaker 3>he lists all of the things that stake Oh, was

724
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 3>it Graham? It may have been Graham. No, no, no,

725
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't Graham. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I forget who

726
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 3>it was. He's a senator and he's saying, essentially, he

727
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:09.960
<v Speaker 3>describes Russian lives as having value to degrade and take away,

728
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 3>and American troops this is all happening with no cost

729
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 3>to American troops. American troops lives have value to preserve.

730
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't mention the Ukrainians at all. He doesn't even

731
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 3>say their name.

732
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.079
<v Speaker 4>That might have been Dan Crenshaw. I can't remember who.

733
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Their job Crenshaw's not in the book. But their job

734
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 3>is just to die. They're just cannon fodder to die.

735
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.079
<v Speaker 3>They're sacrificial animals on this thing.

736
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<v Speaker 4>It's talking about a million people. From what I've read

737
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 4>recently that they think it's I don't know about that

738
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.719
<v Speaker 4>seven hundred two to three hundred thousand Russians.

739
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.760
<v Speaker 3>It's certainly in the at least low hundreds of thousands

740
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 3>of Ukrainians killed, maybe more than that, certainly high hundreds

741
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:54.400
<v Speaker 3>of thousands wounded. When people say a million dead, I

742
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 3>don't buy that, But I usually like conservative estimates and

743
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 3>casualties on things because the the more elaborate ones usually

744
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 3>end up getting. But it's still a horror show either way.

745
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 4>I just think it's fascinating because the world has really

746
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 4>seemed to focus on the plight of the Palestinians to

747
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.960
<v Speaker 4>a far outsized degree. Given the I mean, yes, in

748
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.639
<v Speaker 4>terms of population size, it is much more grievous what

749
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 4>they're dealing with, I suppose, But in terms of actual

750
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 4>just total numbers, what's happening in Ukraine is far more bloody.

751
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Although it's see the civilians have been allowed to flee,

752
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 3>so it's combatants fighting combatants. And now to me, that's right, yeah,

753
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 3>it's they're just a hair away from civilians to me,

754
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 3>their conscript slaves on both sides. So it's totally unfair.

755
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.880
<v Speaker 4>You're dropped off the street into a fucking blacked out

756
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 4>windows van against your will. You're a civilian to me,

757
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 4>pretty close.

758
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.639
<v Speaker 3>Man, So like, yeah, I could sit here and say, oh,

759
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 3>you cannot fight them. I mean they're under arms in

760
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 3>the face their fair game under the laws of war.

761
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 3>As far as that goes, but it's just as tragic

762
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 3>as killing a civilian basically, like, well, just because someone

763
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 3>is a fighting aged male and make them automatically like

764
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 3>their life doesn't have value the way women and children

765
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 3>and elderly do, Like well, I happen to be one,

766
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 3>just barely still maybe, but like I don't want to die.

767
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's that's how they quantify uh, civilian casualties

768
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 4>with drones. They say, oh, well, he was a sixteen

769
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 4>year old man, so that's a that's a fighting age male.

770
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<v Speaker 4>So we're just gonna put him as a capacity.

771
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Guilty unless you prove him innocent, and we're not going

772
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 3>to investigate and find out if he was.

773
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 4>In a not guilty. So so here's here's the reason

774
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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm asking these questions. Well, one because it's the

775
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:42.719
<v Speaker 4>biggest I think it's the biggest thing happening on the

776
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:47.480
<v Speaker 4>planet right now. But two it Yes, I agree with

777
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:49.800
<v Speaker 4>you on the thesis that like, yes, they just want

778
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.119
<v Speaker 4>to they want to damage Russia as much as possible.

779
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 4>That's like that's the general theme behind this. However, what

780
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:59.559
<v Speaker 4>they are doing in terms of escalating this, like you know,

781
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 4>Usha's protocol has been escalated to de escalate. It appears

782
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 4>that NATO's protocol is the same, escalate to de escalate.

783
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.639
<v Speaker 4>You have two sides that are escalating to de escalate,

784
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 4>you're not gonna fucking escalate, right, or you're not gonna

785
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 4>de escalate. So it seems to me that once they

786
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.519
<v Speaker 4>they knew, I mean, they were so adamant we're not

787
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna give them fucking long range missiles to fire into

788
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Russia proper. That is suicide. They're going to respond in

789
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 4>a dramatic fashion. We can't possibly cross that line. They

790
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 4>cross that line after they lose the election. It's so

791
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 4>it's so egregious what they're doing. What the fuck do

792
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.800
<v Speaker 4>they expect Russia to do? Like, you can't expect them

793
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 4>not to respond in a serious way. And I don't

794
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.760
<v Speaker 4>think that it's necessarily going to end just with the

795
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:42.079
<v Speaker 4>show of force, with that hand of God device that

796
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 4>they demonstrated last week. I don't know what they're gonna do,

797
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.360
<v Speaker 4>but it like if you continue to allow them to

798
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.599
<v Speaker 4>fire into Russia proper, they're gonna fucking do something really

799
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 4>wild at some point. Uh makes me nervous. What do

800
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 4>you think? What do you think they're gonna do?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even Thanksgiving yet, right, Like, we still have

802
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 3>two on most two full months before Trump is sworn in. Here,

803
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 3>it is still only November as we're recording this. That

804
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.239
<v Speaker 3>that's the worst part of it. He's like, this is

805
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more of just parting shots or something.

806
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I think you were kind of

807
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 3>referring to this earlier. I was kind of reassuring people

808
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 3>don't panic. I don't think there's going to be a

809
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.159
<v Speaker 3>nuclear war. Is it's going to break out into general

810
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.920
<v Speaker 3>war between the US and NATO right now. If I

811
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 3>really think that's going to happen, I'll tell you and whatever,

812
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't know. I don't usually make predictions.

813
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, my job mostly is just like here's what happened.

814
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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, like I there are times

815
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<v Speaker 3>where like I'm taking things into account, maybe in ways

816
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 3>that other people hadn't thought of or whatever that Like,

817
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

819
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just making this up, Clint, So just bear with me,

820
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Like this is just speculation, but this is I think reasonable.

821
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<v Speaker 3>This is what it sounds like is going on to

822
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 3>me that I think you were referring to. Hearing me

823
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 3>say this on other shows before that, that Biden government.

824
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 3>They know that they just lost the election to Trump

825
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 3>on the basis of this policy. Like he said he's

826
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.800
<v Speaker 3>going to end this war, and they said, are you sure.

827
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<v Speaker 3>You don't mean you're gonna help Ukraine win it? And

828
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<v Speaker 3>he end the debate and he goes, no, I'm gonna

829
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 3>end it. It's too dangerous to continue. Forget it. So

830
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 3>they know they just lost the election on that basis,

831
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 3>and they know that Putin knows that. So I believe

832
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.599
<v Speaker 3>that they are betting that Putin is actually much more

833
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:33.599
<v Speaker 3>patient than they portray him as this absolutely unchinged, unhinged,

834
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, stall and his type psychopath or whatever. I

835
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 3>think that they're betting that, based on his psychological profile

836
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, he's just gonna take it on the cheek

837
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.039
<v Speaker 3>and turn the other cheek, take it on a chin,

838
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 3>and maybe maybe not do nothing. But we saw what

839
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 3>he's done. He hit Ukraine with some new kind of missiles.

840
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 3>He didn't hit Warsaw, he didn't hit London. He didn't

841
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.559
<v Speaker 3>and he hasn't threatened. I mean, he's sort of implied that,

842
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 3>like maybe he would hit London, but I don't think

843
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:02.760
<v Speaker 3>he really meant that, And I think he really was

844
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.519
<v Speaker 3>going to hit London. I think he would tell them, listen, dude,

845
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm about to bomb your goddamn capital city, back off

846
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 3>right now. Before he would do that, I think, I

847
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 3>don't know, because again, they can't shoot down rockets coming

848
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.519
<v Speaker 3>in this fast anyway. Glad vehicle's coming in this fast anyway.

849
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 3>So he'd be wise, certainly to give them a chance

850
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 3>to understand how serious he is before he did something

851
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 3>like that. But just put yourself in his position, Trumps. Yeah, no,

852
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 3>well look so yeah, so in your position, here's your incentives.

853
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 3>First of all, you're not in danger, right these attack thems.

854
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 3>They do not threaten Russia's position in the war. They're

855
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 3>not a game changer in the war at all in

856
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.719
<v Speaker 3>terms of battlefield success. What they are a game changer

857
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 3>of is they can now hit civilian targets further inside

858
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Russia and military ones too. So in other words, they

859
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 3>can enrage the Russians. Yes, that's what they can do. Right.

860
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.519
<v Speaker 3>They can't threaten them, They can't truly make putin afraid.

861
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 3>They can make.

862
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 4>This is why I'm nervous, though, is because the public

863
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.960
<v Speaker 4>out and the public pressure, that's rights pressure Putin is

864
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.679
<v Speaker 4>doing something dramatic, and it seems as if that's what

865
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 4>they want, and that just seems so dangerous.

866
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Right, And then you got to hope he's a strong

867
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.000
<v Speaker 3>enough leader that he can say, actually, no, we're not

868
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 3>doing that. I'll let you know who we're killing and

869
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.320
<v Speaker 3>win and you guys can wait, which is I think

870
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 3>his m quite frankly, and I think that's what they're

871
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.239
<v Speaker 3>betting on, that he's going to be tast though. Yeah.

872
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 3>But see, that's the thing is, Look, if we were

873
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.960
<v Speaker 3>having this conversation in the middle of December, I would

874
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 3>feel a lot better about it.

875
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 4>Clint.

876
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it's not even Thanksgiving yet, and he's already hitting

877
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 3>back new missiles we've never seen before. Okay, so could

878
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 3>he hit Warsaw? Could he hit London? Uh? Yeah, I

879
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.800
<v Speaker 3>mean he could launch a nuke or a conventional bomb

880
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 3>in Washington, d C. The other one doing it, and

881
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 3>so yes, like could this thing escalate? But now, so

882
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 3>that's his position is he has all this public pressure

883
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 3>to do something to respond. But then on the other side,

884
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 3>he's got Donald J. Trump coming in, and what he

885
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 3>doesn't want to do is take the bait as you

886
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:23.320
<v Speaker 3>described it from Biden and escalate to a degree that

887
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 3>now Trump won't be able to negotiate. Trump will now

888
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.079
<v Speaker 3>also have to do something crazy when he gets in

889
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.719
<v Speaker 3>there to prove because now Putin has gone too far

890
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah. So Putin would live extremely wise to

891
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:40.119
<v Speaker 3>simply hold I mean, he's making steady progress on the

892
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:44.000
<v Speaker 3>ground every day anyway, but just keep doing that. Don't

893
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:47.840
<v Speaker 3>do any game real game changers, because you're going to

894
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 3>ruin the chance for a real negotiation. And Donald Trump,

895
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Ron Paul, Donald Trump could change his mind really quick,

896
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, and turn right back into Rudy Giuliani on him.

897
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.039
<v Speaker 4>Completely agree, And I think I think your assessment of

898
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.480
<v Speaker 4>this is accurate, and I think that Putin shares your assessment,

899
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.039
<v Speaker 4>and I think Putin wants to wait for that moment.

900
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 4>My concern is that if the British, the French, Poland

901
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:16.440
<v Speaker 4>moves troops into Ukraine, that is such a that is

902
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:17.920
<v Speaker 4>such an enormous provocation.

903
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, the balls man, what are they gonna do?

904
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, No, I don't think so.

905
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I wouldn't have thought they had the balls

906
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:30.400
<v Speaker 4>to give them all Russia. We have fucking given the

907
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 4>neighbor of the largest nuclear power on Earth long range

908
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 4>missiles to fire into their country, Like, did you ever

909
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:40.039
<v Speaker 4>think that the fucking Americans would do that. That's pretty dramatic.

910
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 3>That's been the yeah, and including apparently by all reporting,

911
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.800
<v Speaker 3>they need Americans to help them fire the damn things.

912
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.159
<v Speaker 4>They are using our tech, our surveillance, are training. They

913
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:50.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know what the fuck they're doing with these things.

914
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:54.440
<v Speaker 4>It's I mean, it's crazy, like we're basically bombing Russia.

915
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 5>A certain extent, the moment of truth is coming. The

916
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 5>previous world order is irreversibly becoming a thing of the past,

917
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 5>one could say, has become a thing of the past,

918
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.960
<v Speaker 5>and the shaping of the new world order is become

919
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:13.119
<v Speaker 5>the scene of uncompromising fight. Uncompromising first and foremost for

920
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 5>the reason that it's not even the battle for power

921
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:23.920
<v Speaker 5>or geopolitical influence. It's a clash of the very principles

922
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:27.039
<v Speaker 5>that would be the foundation between the relation, you know,

923
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 5>for the relation of the countries at the next historical stage,

924
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.159
<v Speaker 5>and its outcome will define whether all of us jointly

925
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:38.159
<v Speaker 5>can build a world that would allow everyone to develop.

926
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:39.199
<v Speaker 4>What do you think about that?

927
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 3>The phrase is overused and misunderstood and misused a lot

928
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 3>of times and has different meanings to different people. There

929
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 3>are you know, there's.

930
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:49.920
<v Speaker 4>A lot of records I wasn't I wasn't going tenfoil

931
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 4>hat with this with any No, it's.

932
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, no, it's no, no, no. It's important to talk about

933
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 3>because it does mean something right and like so, just

934
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:02.239
<v Speaker 3>so for some people to to avoid misunderstanding, he's not

935
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:05.000
<v Speaker 3>referring to now we're going to have a world government.

936
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.400
<v Speaker 3>And there are you know, people on the right wing

937
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:11.360
<v Speaker 3>especially who have always well, there are people who meant

938
00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 3>it that way. They used the term to mean we

939
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 3>will have a world government that essentially will turn the

940
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 3>un Security Council and General Assembly into something like the

941
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Upper and Lower House and make something like a world

942
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 3>federal government. Especially in the twentieth century, people really did

943
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 3>believe in that and push for that. On the other hand,

944
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.039
<v Speaker 3>people also really just use it in lower case letters

945
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.519
<v Speaker 3>to mean the way things are now as opposed to

946
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.320
<v Speaker 3>the way that they were before. There is an order

947
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 3>in the world of who's on top? Is it the British?

948
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Is it the French? Is it the Germans? Is it?

949
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 3>The Americans? Is it the Soviets or the Russians or

950
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:51.039
<v Speaker 3>the Chinese or who.

951
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 4>I heard it the way I heard it was. I

952
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:55.920
<v Speaker 4>heard it the way I heard it was. Basically, he

953
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.159
<v Speaker 4>was saying that there was it's going to be. Instead

954
00:50:58.159 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 4>of a unipolar moment, it's now going to be multiple.

955
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:01.480
<v Speaker 4>That's right, That's what.

956
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:05.760
<v Speaker 3>He's talking about. Yeah, he's saying the era of what

957
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 3>America says goes and everybody else has to obey is

958
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:14.880
<v Speaker 3>now done and in fact, like pretty fittingly and because

959
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's all their own fault too, he really is

960
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 3>the one putting a stuck to it, you see. You know,

961
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, hell, I guess you could say the Ayatola

962
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 3>shoved it down w Bush's throat into Rock War two

963
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 3>as well. But you know, Putin is absolutely drawn a line.

964
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:34.639
<v Speaker 3>And as you said, he's winning, He's gonna draw that border. Kiev.

965
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Don't decide where that border is gonna go. He's gonna decide.

966
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 3>He's going to negotiate when he wants to. He's the

967
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 3>one in the position of strength and they're just not

968
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and they're not gonna be. So he is just right

969
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 3>about that. And it's also true and people should understand,

970
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:52.360
<v Speaker 3>we don't want the Chinese to be communists. We want

971
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 3>them to be Milton Friedman nights, because when they when

972
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:57.960
<v Speaker 3>they were really Marxists, they starved to death by the

973
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.159
<v Speaker 3>tens of millions. Literally, a lot of people maybe don't

974
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 3>know this, Malaise Tongue and his government millions, tens of

975
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:10.159
<v Speaker 3>millions of people, like between thirty and forty million people

976
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:16.239
<v Speaker 3>starved because of Marxism. Okay, we want them to be wealthy.

977
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:18.280
<v Speaker 3>And you know that in India they were never part

978
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 3>of the Soviet system or anything, but they were very

979
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.679
<v Speaker 3>commy during the Cold War years. Their economy is very

980
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.920
<v Speaker 3>centralized in all this, so you have these extremely you know,

981
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.800
<v Speaker 3>these huge countries that are just mired in government economics

982
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 3>and people just going without just absolutely you know, some

983
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 3>of the poorest populations in the world. People are so

984
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 3>afraid of China. Now, China has millions of people still

985
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.360
<v Speaker 3>living in poverty. They're just coming up, you know on

986
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 3>the East coast. Yeah, things are looking great, but it's

987
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.800
<v Speaker 3>a big country with a billion people in it, and

988
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.199
<v Speaker 3>the standard of living there overall is not so high

989
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 3>that they're prepared to take over the world in our place.

990
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, they certainly can't afford to. But this is

991
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.920
<v Speaker 3>what we want. I'm sorry, I'm speaking for everyone here.

992
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:09.239
<v Speaker 3>We want Brazil to stop being a poor country and

993
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 3>become a wealthy one. And we want the same thing

994
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 3>for Egypt, and we want the same thing for Sierra Leone,

995
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:16.639
<v Speaker 3>and we want the same thing for India, and we

996
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.400
<v Speaker 3>want the same thing for Vietnam and Laos and Cambodia

997
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.960
<v Speaker 3>and China and North Korea too. We want people to

998
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.960
<v Speaker 3>be free, we want them to be prosperous. And we

999
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:30.679
<v Speaker 3>have to understand that part of China abandoning Marxist economics

1000
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.840
<v Speaker 3>for Freedman Night Chicago School economics is they're going to

1001
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 3>have more money and they're going to have us say now.

1002
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:40.280
<v Speaker 3>And the same thing with the Soviet Union. We wanted

1003
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Soviet communism gone. We fished our wish. It's gone. Well,

1004
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:48.920
<v Speaker 3>guess what. They're a capitalist's economy, sitting on a bunch

1005
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 3>of rivers and timber and metal and energy.

1006
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 4>I wish some would let the US State Department know

1007
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:57.000
<v Speaker 4>that they're no longer the ussor. I don't think they

1008
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:58.400
<v Speaker 4>got the memos cut right.

1009
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, they're finding out the hard way, right. They said, oh,

1010
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 3>don't worry about us we're gonna hit them with an

1011
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 3>economic nuclear bomb. And they're like, on, you're not doing

1012
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:08.079
<v Speaker 3>nothing us.

1013
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 4>We'll just sell more oil.

1014
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Do you know the war Nerd Gary Bretcher, he's like

1015
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.880
<v Speaker 3>partners with that scumbag Mark Ames. But he's a good guy,

1016
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.360
<v Speaker 3>like John Dolan is his real name, the war Nerd.

1017
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 3>And I'd like this in the book. He wrote an

1018
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 3>article back in like twenty twelve or something I forget,

1019
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 3>long time ago, where he goes, hey, check it out, everybody,

1020
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 3>Russia just open a new oil pipeline to China. Game

1021
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.239
<v Speaker 3>is up. They don't give a damn about you anymore.

1022
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:38.880
<v Speaker 3>You think that you can blackmail them into doing what

1023
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 3>you want, well you can't. They just sell their oil

1024
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 3>to the East instead. You think that there's a ceiling

1025
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:48.199
<v Speaker 3>on how much oil the East wants to buy from China,

1026
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.639
<v Speaker 3>how much gas they want to buy from China, I

1027
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 3>mean from Russia. Wrong. Wrong, They don't need you at all.

1028
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.360
<v Speaker 3>You can try to extort them and blackmail them all

1029
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 3>you want. The game is up. And he wrote that

1030
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:03.000
<v Speaker 3>ten years ago or more. I swear man, you.

1031
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Know, well, see this is what's so fascinating to me,

1032
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 4>is like it seems from a geopolitical standpoint, if you understand,

1033
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:13.199
<v Speaker 4>like you understand that you're a fading power and that

1034
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.159
<v Speaker 4>unipolarity is not going to be able to hold on

1035
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 4>held on to forever, but you want to maintain yourself

1036
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:21.639
<v Speaker 4>in basically a plurality control where you're you're not you're

1037
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.480
<v Speaker 4>not the everything, but you have enough allies that you

1038
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:28.960
<v Speaker 4>could basically still semi dominate the planet. Well, America had

1039
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 4>that on offer, like, we could have done that. We

1040
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 4>have NATO, we have so many of the more wealthy

1041
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.440
<v Speaker 4>economies that are are in lockstep with us. But instead

1042
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.360
<v Speaker 4>and we could have brought Russia into that fold in

1043
00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:43.880
<v Speaker 4>opposition to China. But instead of that, they do the

1044
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:47.440
<v Speaker 4>opposite and they push Russia into the arms of the Chinese.

1045
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:51.800
<v Speaker 4>In what fucking world does a geopolitical strategists think that's

1046
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.800
<v Speaker 4>the proper end game to this? It seems so counterproductive.

1047
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Are they they just overplayed their hands?

1048
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Looks that's a great question, right, And first of all,

1049
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 3>let me just say that Henry Kissinger agreed with you

1050
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.079
<v Speaker 3>and Trump about this, right that like this is so

1051
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 3>In other words, I'm not saying you're a horrible kissingery

1052
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:13.079
<v Speaker 3>and I but I'm just saying this was like perfectly

1053
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 3>within the realm of professional discussion by credentialed foreign policy

1054
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.119
<v Speaker 3>acolyte types that like, what are we doing here? Are

1055
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:22.480
<v Speaker 3>we fighting your Asia or are we fighting East Asia?

1056
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.880
<v Speaker 3>And certainly if we're fighting East Asia, we want to

1057
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:30.119
<v Speaker 3>make friends with your Asia first, right, that only makes sense. However,

1058
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.960
<v Speaker 3>the people who are the vested interests on the fight

1059
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 3>in your Asia, well they don't want to switch, right,

1060
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:42.559
<v Speaker 3>And so you have essentially these separate interests, you know,

1061
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 3>competing and then their compromises will just do every wrong

1062
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.159
<v Speaker 3>thing instead of stopping doing one to do the other.

1063
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.800
<v Speaker 3>And you also have and you know, look, as individualists,

1064
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:56.079
<v Speaker 3>we understand that this is how it goes. Like you

1065
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:59.519
<v Speaker 3>can oversimplify and go, oh, the CFR wants this or

1066
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the State Department wants that, but like, man, it comes

1067
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.119
<v Speaker 3>down to it. There's this great interview in the New

1068
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:08.519
<v Speaker 3>York Times, and I cite this in the book, but

1069
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:11.280
<v Speaker 3>they're talking with a guy named Thomas Graham, who's like

1070
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 3>a lifelong foreign service officer who warned all along about

1071
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 3>this stuff. I quote him way back in the nineties

1072
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:20.559
<v Speaker 3>saying we should not be doing this, and he stayed

1073
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 3>in government, and this is in the late W. Bush.

1074
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Hears now, so he stayed through Clinton and through W.

1075
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Bush and he's still around somewhere. But so this is

1076
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:33.119
<v Speaker 3>late W. Bush and he's explained I'm pretty sure he's

1077
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 3>talking to Keith Guesson at the New York Times magazine?

1078
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 3>Is this footnote? But he's he's, uh, I'm sorry, I

1079
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.400
<v Speaker 3>got off track on Keith Guessing. I got what Biden's got.

1080
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 3>You got to forgive me the I'm sorry, what was

1081
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I just saying? Who was talking to Keith Guessing? What

1082
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:51.639
<v Speaker 3>I just say? God damn it, save me.

1083
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm caught up on Guessing. I can't I get No,

1084
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:58.960
<v Speaker 4>you got New York Times.

1085
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh it was Thomas Graham. Thomas Graham explains, Sorry, everybody,

1086
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of an idiot. Thomas Graham says to Keith Guessing,

1087
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.280
<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, no, we should not be doing this stuff. Man,

1088
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 3>It's terrible and crazy. It's driving the Russians crazy. It's

1089
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.920
<v Speaker 3>going to lead to a terrible conflict with them. And

1090
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Keith Guessa goes, well, I don't understand, man, You're the

1091
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:24.320
<v Speaker 3>head of the Russia desk. On W. Bush's National security Council,

1092
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 3>So what the hell? And Thomas Graham says, oh, but

1093
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:35.239
<v Speaker 3>that's the Ukraine Desk. I'm not in charge of that, right.

1094
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.679
<v Speaker 3>I can only say, this is what I think, you know,

1095
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 3>what seems to be going on at the Ukraine Desk

1096
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 3>down the hall, what they're doing, what that could effect,

1097
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.480
<v Speaker 3>that could have on our Russia policy. But essentially he

1098
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:49.400
<v Speaker 3>had been able to carve out a couple of things

1099
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.360
<v Speaker 3>that we could work together with Russia on and hopefully

1100
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 3>try to make things better and whatever. But if the guys,

1101
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 3>if Victoria Newlan and Daniel Freed and all of these

1102
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 3>koops down the Hall on the Ukraine are starting a war,

1103
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 3>he can't do anything about it. So he's w Bush's

1104
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:11.159
<v Speaker 3>top Russia guy on his National Security Council, and he

1105
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:14.960
<v Speaker 3>can't tell Bush to not do Ukraine things because that's

1106
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:18.519
<v Speaker 3>not his job, even though, of course everything Ukraine is

1107
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:23.119
<v Speaker 3>completely tied up with Russia. They're not separate issues. Stupid,

1108
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 3>These desks should be stuck together. There should be one

1109
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:29.119
<v Speaker 3>guy in charge of both desks, and there's just not.

1110
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:33.000
<v Speaker 3>And so like, I don't know, man like, and you

1111
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.159
<v Speaker 3>can tell Thomas Graham is like, I know, it sucks.

1112
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<v Speaker 4>Right, that's all there is doing. Man, that's nuts. I

1113
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:42.800
<v Speaker 4>want to ask you about the because from my vantage point,

1114
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:46.400
<v Speaker 4>like the more imminent threat in escalations in this current

1115
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:50.199
<v Speaker 4>war is that he could, as a show of force

1116
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:54.079
<v Speaker 4>to try and basically call NATO and the US State

1117
00:59:54.119 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 4>Department's bluff, pummel poland pummel some Eastern European country to

1118
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 4>send shock waves and see if they actually like, do

1119
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:07.760
<v Speaker 4>you want to fucking chill out or not? Or they

1120
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 4>immediately fucking send troops into Ukraine and it's on like

1121
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:12.679
<v Speaker 4>it could go either way. But here's the here's the

1122
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 4>real question. So the real question that I have is

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<v Speaker 4>are these fucking politicians in Europe who are actually imperiling

1124
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.320
<v Speaker 4>their people in a way that's actually much more significant

1125
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:24.239
<v Speaker 4>than it is America, because if even if this war

1126
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 4>stays conventional, you'd have a real fucking problem on your

1127
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:29.039
<v Speaker 4>hands if you end up in a ground war against Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>Why the fuck are they doing this? Do they are?

1129
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Have they drank their own kool aid and they think

1130
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.280
<v Speaker 4>that Russia is about to roll across Europe because that's

1131
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:38.840
<v Speaker 4>the way they're behaving. I don't do you think they

1132
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 4>actually think.

1133
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:43.960
<v Speaker 3>That that's a good question, Man, I really don't know.

1134
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't either, That's why I'm asking. I don't know.

1135
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Most of the time, no matter how bad they lie,

1136
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.079
<v Speaker 3>that they convince themselves of their own lives so quickly.

1137
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.760
<v Speaker 3>In most cases, they don't seem to like, you know,

1138
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:57.880
<v Speaker 3>you think of like a pathological liar, like he keeps

1139
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.199
<v Speaker 3>a ledger in his head of like what's true and

1140
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.159
<v Speaker 3>what he lied about or something like that, you know

1141
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:04.039
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. But they don't really seem to do that.

1142
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:05.679
<v Speaker 3>They seem to just they come up with their line

1143
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:07.920
<v Speaker 3>of crap and then they just stick with that. A

1144
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of times it's a bunch of vague slogan earring

1145
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 3>and just it's the thing that we say, there's not

1146
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:13.800
<v Speaker 3>too much thought about it.

1147
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.760
<v Speaker 4>It's not very specific democracy.

1148
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, or like yeah, we can't let Russia

1149
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 3>get away with winning, Like yeah, but you're not taking

1150
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:25.039
<v Speaker 3>into account the land that's already lost and your inability

1151
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:26.039
<v Speaker 3>to reverse that.

1152
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:26.519
<v Speaker 4>Right.

1153
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 3>That was the debate I got in on Pierce Morgan

1154
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.400
<v Speaker 3>the other day where he's like that was pretending to

1155
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 3>invoke like these high minded principles Russia must not be

1156
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:37.400
<v Speaker 3>allowed to get away with this. Well, if you're not

1157
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:41.880
<v Speaker 3>willing to send in the Marine Corps and the US

1158
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 3>Navy and the US Air Force to reverse it, then

1159
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:48.039
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna reverse it. And if you did that,

1160
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 3>we'd all be dead in a general nuclear war between

1161
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:55.599
<v Speaker 3>NATO and Russia anyway. So sorry, the Donbass is lost

1162
01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 3>and it's a prosia and curse on too. The question

1163
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.800
<v Speaker 3>now is whether you're gonna lose Tarki and Ardessa or

1164
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 3>where you're going to be able to hang on to them.

1165
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Negotiate sooner not later, you know, But they always do that,

1166
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.559
<v Speaker 3>you know. It's always the arguments are always so vague

1167
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to why we got to continue to

1168
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 3>do these things. When it comes down to the specifics,

1169
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:18.800
<v Speaker 3>you go see, it makes no sense. And quite frankly,

1170
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:20.880
<v Speaker 3>do you think that the Germans and the French and

1171
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:24.239
<v Speaker 3>the Polish could reverse the state of the war. I

1172
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 3>don't know that they could.

1173
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:26.199
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they sit in.

1174
01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Their entire air forces and all that, but they'd have

1175
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.159
<v Speaker 3>to be willing to lose their pilots and get shot

1176
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 3>out of the sky. They'd have to have to be

1177
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:36.679
<v Speaker 3>willing to lose brigades worth of men in the war,

1178
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:38.519
<v Speaker 3>which I don't think that they're willing to do. I

1179
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 3>don't think they have the political capital or the political

1180
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:41.960
<v Speaker 3>will to do that whatsoever.

1181
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, then and then you also have to you also

1182
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 4>have to deal with the potential that Russia strikes your

1183
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 4>nation and the fallout from your people in your country,

1184
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:52.519
<v Speaker 4>or even.

1185
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.519
<v Speaker 3>Or Clint even launch a general mobilization, which so far

1186
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:59.440
<v Speaker 3>they had not. Right like, this is a police action

1187
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.599
<v Speaker 3>to rush. It's a full scale life and death war

1188
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.760
<v Speaker 3>to Ukraine. But this is a special military operation. They

1189
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 3>have not announce widespread conscription.

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01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:12.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's much a good question for you, because

1191
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 4>I agree with your assessment on this, But the Navo

1192
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:20.239
<v Speaker 4>trolls online are constantly trying to portray it that Russia

1193
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:23.400
<v Speaker 4>is dealing with the same you know, troop shortage that

1194
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 4>the Ukrainians are. I don't think that's accurate whatsoever.

1195
01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Look at the census, man, look at the size of

1196
01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:32.280
<v Speaker 3>the nation in question. There's just no question that there

1197
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:36.639
<v Speaker 3>are many tens of millions more fighting age males that

1198
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:39.199
<v Speaker 3>live in Russia than live in Ukraine. You could I

1199
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 3>don't have it in front of me, but you could

1200
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.199
<v Speaker 3>look it up on the CIA World fact Book. They'll

1201
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:44.559
<v Speaker 3>have the population for you.

1202
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.920
<v Speaker 4>There is Russia conscripting at all this at thet Oh yeah.

1203
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they do have conscription, but it's nothing like

1204
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:52.840
<v Speaker 3>a full scale mobilization, like they're in a real war

1205
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:56.079
<v Speaker 3>for their lives. They're not doing that. Remember, you know

1206
01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:58.599
<v Speaker 3>they said, oh, look, they're so desperate they have to

1207
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:01.920
<v Speaker 3>use prisoners when they were using the Wagner group to

1208
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.159
<v Speaker 3>do all that fighting there. It's not because they were desperate.

1209
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:08.519
<v Speaker 3>That's because of how not desperate they were. They were

1210
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:12.679
<v Speaker 3>using prisoners to fight. They're saving their infantry and sending

1211
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.800
<v Speaker 3>prisoners off because they didn't even need to use their

1212
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:16.719
<v Speaker 3>army at that point.

1213
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 4>Probably because they want to use those guys burned through them,

1214
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:21.800
<v Speaker 4>because if they end up in a wider war with NATO,

1215
01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:23.280
<v Speaker 4>they're going to need all their good guys.

1216
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:25.719
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Yeah, you always want to like you know,

1217
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:28.280
<v Speaker 3>remember the South Park movie, just send the darky shield

1218
01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 3>first or where the people that they don't care about

1219
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:34.519
<v Speaker 3>are the ones that go first and they but the

1220
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.079
<v Speaker 3>way they portrayed it was like, oh yeah, see, they're

1221
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:40.079
<v Speaker 3>so desperate. They can't find a single fighting age male

1222
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:44.119
<v Speaker 3>anywhere in Moscow or Saint Petersburg to conscript, Like come

1223
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.079
<v Speaker 3>on man, that's not right general prognosis.

1224
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.360
<v Speaker 4>You it seems as if you were at least somewhat

1225
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:54.199
<v Speaker 4>optimistic we will get to Trump's inauguration. And do you

1226
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:57.360
<v Speaker 4>think based off of the cabinet picks, which you and

1227
01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:59.679
<v Speaker 4>I have not been tremendous fans of, particularly when it

1228
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:03.559
<v Speaker 4>comes to foreign policy, do you think that that Trump

1229
01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 4>has the backbone and the political will given the kind

1230
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.960
<v Speaker 4>of mandate that the American people gave him to negotiate

1231
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.559
<v Speaker 4>peace despite the warhawks that he surrounded himself with.

1232
01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ Gleann. He named Marco Rubio.

1233
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Brother I know, to be Secretary of State.

1234
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he could have made him any horrible thing,

1235
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I know, but secretary. Ain't you know?

1236
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.400
<v Speaker 4>You know Miriam Madelson bought that slot. She bought that.

1237
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh I do know that. I do know that. But God,

1238
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<v Speaker 3>dang man, I that is really that is really makes

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<v Speaker 3>it difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell you one nice.

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01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Story about Trump, all right, go for it. Trump made

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01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:43.039
<v Speaker 3>a deal with I'll make Khalil Zod, who was a

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01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:46.079
<v Speaker 3>legit oh j neo conservative, studied under Leo Strauss at

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01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:49.159
<v Speaker 3>the University of Chicago, worked for Scoop Jackson with Pearl

1245
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 3>and Fife and then wolf of Witz helped write the

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<v Speaker 3>Defense Planning Guidance of nineteen ninety two ninety four. There,

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01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Trump somehow, by what magic I do not know, made

1248
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:08.760
<v Speaker 3>a deal with khalil Zod that khalil Zod would truly, seriously,

1249
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:15.199
<v Speaker 3>no bullshit, actually sign a piece deal with the Taliban

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01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.679
<v Speaker 3>to get us the hell out of Afghanistan insane. Now,

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01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:23.280
<v Speaker 3>how he got khalil Zod to shake hands and swear

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01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.599
<v Speaker 3>to God and really mean it that he was not

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01:06:26.679 --> 01:06:28.480
<v Speaker 3>going to play some double game and he was not

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01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:30.360
<v Speaker 3>going to drag this out and he was not going

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01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.519
<v Speaker 3>to do this thing. Now, I've read a bit about

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01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.360
<v Speaker 3>different administrations over the years, and like it matters a

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01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.599
<v Speaker 3>lot whether you're the president's guy or whether you work

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01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:41.519
<v Speaker 3>for the Secretary of State or whatever it is. But

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<v Speaker 3>khalil Zod had a mandate directly from the President that said, seriously, man,

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<v Speaker 3>sign a goddamn deil, I really really mean it, and

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01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:54.199
<v Speaker 3>don't take the job if you're not really going to

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01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.440
<v Speaker 3>do it. I have no anecdotes here, I'm making up

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01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:00.079
<v Speaker 3>the dialogue, but the point being he made somehow he

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01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:05.639
<v Speaker 3>made khalil Zod promise and mean it that he would

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01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:08.880
<v Speaker 3>have a deal done by the end of Trump's presidency

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01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.920
<v Speaker 3>by in fact, by February of his last year in

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01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 3>office in twenty twenty. That was amazing. So the deal

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01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:20.880
<v Speaker 3>is ultimately like I was saying before about his flaws

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01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:22.920
<v Speaker 3>when he could have clamped down when his government was

1270
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:27.639
<v Speaker 3>doing the wrong thing. He's the president, and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>Marco Rubio ain't shit compared to Donald Trump. When the

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<v Speaker 3>two of them are in a room together and Trump's

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01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:37.760
<v Speaker 3>the one in the chair behind the desk, and Rubio's

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01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:41.599
<v Speaker 3>standing before him the power and balance right as the

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01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 3>sexual harassment people would say, or whatever is stark there right.

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01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:49.679
<v Speaker 3>In other words, Rubio better goddamn do what he's told.

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01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:53.519
<v Speaker 3>And that means that Trump ought to be able to

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01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:56.639
<v Speaker 3>say to him. Look, man, these are the ground rules.

1279
01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:01.400
<v Speaker 3>But I want it done, and don't being Hillary Clinton

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01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:04.239
<v Speaker 3>on me and doing what the establishment wants. You work

1281
01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:07.800
<v Speaker 3>for me, boy, go and do what you've agreed to do,

1282
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:11.159
<v Speaker 3>which is do what I say to do. And that

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01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.840
<v Speaker 3>is the job, right. The job has not come up

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01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 3>with a foreign policy, Marco.

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<v Speaker 4>You know so because chance you don't know chance? Do

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01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:24.159
<v Speaker 4>you think serious question? Do you think that Marco Rubio

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01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.920
<v Speaker 4>is any worse than Anthony Blincoln Jake Sullivan. I mean,

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01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:31.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying Marco Rubio is good and such the imagination.

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<v Speaker 3>But listen, he's not only because of how absolutely horrible

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01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:38.720
<v Speaker 3>they are. Anthony Blincoln has us worse as Secretary of

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01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:41.800
<v Speaker 3>status we've ever had in all of American history. He

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01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:48.880
<v Speaker 3>is absolute just a monster. So Rubio has the potential

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01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:49.680
<v Speaker 3>to be that bad.

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01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:50.640
<v Speaker 4>He does.

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01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Rubio is absolutely horrible on everything, and he always has.

1296
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:57.640
<v Speaker 3>But he's never been good on any single thing, I'm

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01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 3>sure ever in his life. Right he flew over there

1298
01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:05.520
<v Speaker 3>with Hillary Clinton to celebrate the aggressive war against Libya

1299
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 3>and the regime change for al Qaeda in Libya. Okay,

1300
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:12.119
<v Speaker 3>he's If he's not guilty of high treason, it's because

1301
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:15.880
<v Speaker 3>he's too stupid to know that he's taking the side

1302
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 3>of al Qaeda in Iraq, in Libya and Syria too.

1303
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:24.960
<v Speaker 3>So no, may God damn Marco Rubio. He is absolutely horrible.

1304
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:31.560
<v Speaker 3>But b Lincoln has already killed exactly hi, tens of thousands,

1305
01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:34.720
<v Speaker 3>hundreds of thousands of people that Rubio just hasn't had

1306
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:36.560
<v Speaker 3>a chance to murder yet quite exactly.

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01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.840
<v Speaker 4>See this, this was I was in this spaces last

1308
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:43.000
<v Speaker 4>night defending Dave Smith's honor because Dave and I both

1309
01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:47.000
<v Speaker 4>ultimately concluded to support Donald Trump and vote for a

1310
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:48.640
<v Speaker 4>winning president for the first time in my life. I

1311
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:51.640
<v Speaker 4>don't fucking like it at all, but that's what I did.

1312
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:55.359
<v Speaker 4>And they were basically saying, you know, what faith do

1313
01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:57.760
<v Speaker 4>you have, Like why do you believe that Trump will

1314
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:00.600
<v Speaker 4>be any better? And it's like, because he can't be worse,

1315
01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:06.479
<v Speaker 4>Like the footing that the current State Department has with

1316
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 4>the largest nuclear power on the planet is as dangerous, like,

1317
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:15.159
<v Speaker 4>aside from preemptive fucking nuclear launches, they couldn't be doing

1318
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.439
<v Speaker 4>anything crazier. So that's my argument. And we'll see and look.

1319
01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Even younger Biden, who is absolutely horrible on everything, at

1320
01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:27.880
<v Speaker 3>least he could read and think and be awake and

1321
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:34.319
<v Speaker 3>talk and make decisions. Kamala Harris Kamala Harris was running

1322
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:39.439
<v Speaker 3>as current Joe Biden right She was running to be

1323
01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:43.239
<v Speaker 3>the person with no brain who sits there at the

1324
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:47.439
<v Speaker 3>desk and receives her instructions from her committee, from her

1325
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:50.760
<v Speaker 3>advisors and then says, Okay, I guess I choose Option B.

1326
01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:54.359
<v Speaker 3>But nobody thinks that she knows anything about it. Nobody

1327
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:56.239
<v Speaker 3>thinks that she's in charge. You know, they used to

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01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:58.800
<v Speaker 3>say about Bill Clinton. Boy, if you're going to give

1329
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:01.640
<v Speaker 3>the president a briefing, you better have your shit together,

1330
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:05.439
<v Speaker 3>because he's read six books about may and Mar Okay

1331
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:07.920
<v Speaker 3>and you haven't. You're gonna tell him what's going on

1332
01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:10.800
<v Speaker 3>in Miyan Mar. He's gonna ask you questions that you

1333
01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:14.960
<v Speaker 3>can't answer. And the guy's a horrible face fighting rapist,

1334
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:18.560
<v Speaker 3>son of a pitch. He's horrible, but he's intelligent, and

1335
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:20.800
<v Speaker 3>he can read books, and he's interested in what the

1336
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:24.960
<v Speaker 3>hell is going on in Mayan mar Okay. Nobody. Nobody

1337
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:29.359
<v Speaker 3>thinks that about Kamala Harris. She literally was running not

1338
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:33.600
<v Speaker 3>just as but to be an empty suit. She was

1339
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:38.079
<v Speaker 3>running to rule America by the same committee that's been

1340
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:43.079
<v Speaker 3>running it, Blincoln and Sullivan and Newland and those guys,

1341
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:44.800
<v Speaker 3>same group.

1342
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:48.479
<v Speaker 4>The worst state department, you know, lineup that we've ever

1343
01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:51.319
<v Speaker 4>seen in our lives. And Libertarians are telling me, I

1344
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:54.399
<v Speaker 4>can't understand why you don't want them to stay in power,

1345
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:58.039
<v Speaker 4>And it's like, do I have to explain it? These

1346
01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:01.359
<v Speaker 4>people are fucking lunatics now, and he could It could

1347
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:03.720
<v Speaker 4>very well be hold on, hold on. It could very

1348
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:07.479
<v Speaker 4>well be that Trump pivots to Iran and then Russia

1349
01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:10.119
<v Speaker 4>assists Iran and we end up in World War three,

1350
01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:11.960
<v Speaker 4>and then China helps Russia and like it could all

1351
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.239
<v Speaker 4>go to fucking hell. It could in a totally different way.

1352
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:19.079
<v Speaker 4>But I genuinely think that Trump is sincere in wanting

1353
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:22.000
<v Speaker 4>to see the war in Ukraine ended and for me,

1354
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:25.319
<v Speaker 4>for me, that is the biggest threat we face as

1355
01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:28.319
<v Speaker 4>human beings in my lifetime. And I don't think I'm

1356
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:32.119
<v Speaker 4>being paranoid or hyperbolic. And the real way I know

1357
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.199
<v Speaker 4>that is because the media pretends is if this none

1358
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:36.039
<v Speaker 4>of this is even happening, as if it's not a

1359
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:40.159
<v Speaker 4>big danger, as if this isn't the Cuban missile crisis,

1360
01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:43.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, part two on steroids, which is what it is.

1361
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:46.680
<v Speaker 4>So that's that was the decision making process. And you know,

1362
01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:48.680
<v Speaker 4>people can be upset with me, but I still think

1363
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:50.600
<v Speaker 4>that it was like it was a rational choice whether

1364
01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:51.960
<v Speaker 4>you wanted to join me or not.

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01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And look, I was rooting for the guy. I

1366
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:56.720
<v Speaker 3>could never vote for him, and I didn't. I didn't

1367
01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.800
<v Speaker 3>vote for him in twenty sixteen or twenty either, But

1368
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I was rooting for him both of those times too,

1369
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:07.520
<v Speaker 3>because you know, even though he really is not far

1370
01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:12.520
<v Speaker 3>outside of the Republican establishment, he ran as a repudiation

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01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:17.000
<v Speaker 3>of their entire consensus, and so that message has to

1372
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:17.439
<v Speaker 3>be sent.

1373
01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:20.319
<v Speaker 4>And look, I said, it's more about his supporters than

1374
01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:23.199
<v Speaker 4>it is him for me. Yeah, that the people, they

1375
01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:25.600
<v Speaker 4>are the people that don't want these wars, you know.

1376
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:29.720
<v Speaker 3>And also look it is it's about firing the Democrats,

1377
01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:33.520
<v Speaker 3>you know. In four I remember, I've told this story

1378
01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:36.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot of times. I'll never forget. I had this

1379
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:40.199
<v Speaker 3>couple in my cab and I says to them, I says, so,

1380
01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:42.880
<v Speaker 3>who are you guys voting for? And they go, well,

1381
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:45.720
<v Speaker 3>it's hard to decide between Bush and Carrie because you know,

1382
01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:48.319
<v Speaker 3>we kind of like both of them a little bit,

1383
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:50.840
<v Speaker 3>but there's some things that we disagree with them about.

1384
01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:53.079
<v Speaker 3>And like it's kind of hard to know, you know.

1385
01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:55.840
<v Speaker 4>And I said this, yeah to the Iraq war.

1386
01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one of them just lied you into war. He

1387
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:02.920
<v Speaker 3>hired a bunch of ex communist is. Rarely spies to

1388
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:06.359
<v Speaker 3>lie you into war. Like, you don't hate him, You're

1389
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:09.600
<v Speaker 3>not mad at all about that, You don't think that,

1390
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Like just on that alone. He deserves to be fired

1391
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.319
<v Speaker 3>for making your next door neighbor think that Saddam help

1392
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Osama hit the towers and and start a war based

1393
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:24.399
<v Speaker 3>on that, like and and and yes, John Kerry's horrible.

1394
01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:27.000
<v Speaker 3>John Carrey is nothing but a clone right out of

1395
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.199
<v Speaker 3>the W. Bush machine from the other side of the aisle.

1396
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:34.000
<v Speaker 3>But the absolute center left. He's nothing but Hillary Clinton,

1397
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:39.600
<v Speaker 3>John Kerry. But still this guy must be fired. He

1398
01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:43.039
<v Speaker 3>must be repudiated. The American people must say no, if

1399
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.720
<v Speaker 3>you lie us into war, then we hate your guts

1400
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:48.560
<v Speaker 3>and we kick you out. It really doesn't matter who's

1401
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:52.119
<v Speaker 3>waiting unless it's whatever make up your worst caricature in

1402
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:52.880
<v Speaker 3>the world.

1403
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:59.159
<v Speaker 4>But otherwise, and to a war and Patriot Act and.

1404
01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.880
<v Speaker 3>And torturing people to death and all of stuff. Man,

1405
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:04.039
<v Speaker 3>And then the American people re electing W. Bush, you

1406
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:07.920
<v Speaker 3>know four is to their everlasting shame that that was

1407
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.760
<v Speaker 3>allowed to happen in any way. I mean by the people,

1408
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:14.960
<v Speaker 3>not by people with power. And it's the same thing here.

1409
01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:18.319
<v Speaker 3>We're like, what they have done in Ukraine and what

1410
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:21.319
<v Speaker 3>they have done in Palestine means that they have to go.

1411
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:25.159
<v Speaker 3>That's it. They must be repudiated. And look, Trump is

1412
01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:28.560
<v Speaker 3>running on being worse on Israel Palestine. He ran on that,

1413
01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:31.800
<v Speaker 3>and he almost certainly promises to be worse on it

1414
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:38.079
<v Speaker 3>than even them. And and that's and he might be like,

1415
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:43.760
<v Speaker 3>he very well, but they killed fifty thousand people. He didn't.

1416
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.319
<v Speaker 3>He only like set the thing up and it happened

1417
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:50.680
<v Speaker 3>because of him in Kushner's horrible policy. But Biden's the

1418
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:52.439
<v Speaker 3>one who keeps giving them bombs.

1419
01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:53.039
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:55.439
<v Speaker 3>Harris is the one who didn't resign over it.

1421
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:59.239
<v Speaker 4>And we've seen so people are responsible. We've seen so little,

1422
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:04.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, actual reflection on the disastrous foreign like not

1423
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:08.960
<v Speaker 4>not so little, zero like negative reflection in fact, on

1424
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.279
<v Speaker 4>the campaign trail, Kamala Harris is still doubling and tripling

1425
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.960
<v Speaker 4>down not just on these wars, but also the censorship

1426
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.800
<v Speaker 4>regime that was that was pushed under, you know, twenty

1427
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:21.239
<v Speaker 4>twenty one, twenty two under the Biden regime. And it's like,

1428
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:24.520
<v Speaker 4>this is fucking the most Unamerican shit and the most

1429
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:28.520
<v Speaker 4>like existentially dangerous foreign policy I've ever seen, and it's

1430
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:31.359
<v Speaker 4>combined into one. On top, I haven't even mentioned the

1431
01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:33.560
<v Speaker 4>vaccine mandates that they try to shove down our fucking

1432
01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:37.720
<v Speaker 4>throats it's like, these people have to go. Okay, I

1433
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:41.319
<v Speaker 4>think that Trump was a catastrophe in twenty twenty, just

1434
01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:45.520
<v Speaker 4>disastrous on so many levels, probably the largest transfer of

1435
01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:47.800
<v Speaker 4>wealth and human history as a consequence of what he

1436
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:50.720
<v Speaker 4>allowed to transpire under his watch. That doesn't change the

1437
01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:53.279
<v Speaker 4>fact that we're on the precipice of fucking World War three.

1438
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:56.079
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, these guys gotta go. So anyways, I'll

1439
01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:56.600
<v Speaker 4>stop there.

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01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:59.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, even there, even there, that was the democratic

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01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:02.439
<v Speaker 3>state governors that locked the country down the most and

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<v Speaker 3>the worst. What and it was a destabilization campaign against

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01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:09.000
<v Speaker 3>him at our expense.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, No, it was. He did the fifteen days, but

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01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:13.800
<v Speaker 4>beyond that, I think he was just buffaloed. Let me

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01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:17.039
<v Speaker 4>let me play you one last bizarre clip, because we've

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01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:18.720
<v Speaker 4>talked about this in the past, and I'm just curious

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<v Speaker 4>what you think.

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<v Speaker 6>Any part of federal government is knowingly concealing evidence about UAPs.

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<v Speaker 4>From the public. Yes, sir, yes, yes, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>I also want to just go down the line, and

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01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:34.960
<v Speaker 6>I know many of you have already said this, by

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01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:38.840
<v Speaker 6>just for the record again, just briefly, what do you

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01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:41.840
<v Speaker 6>believe UAPs could be or.

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01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:47.479
<v Speaker 3>Are strong evidence that they are? Non human higher intelligence.

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01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:57.479
<v Speaker 3>I echo my colleague's commentary, genuinely do not know, don't know.

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01:17:57.439 --> 01:17:59.920
<v Speaker 4>But we must find out. This is UAP hearings that

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01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:03.960
<v Speaker 4>happening on Capitol Hill a couple of weeks ago. Is

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01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:07.720
<v Speaker 4>this is this? I mean, was it Project Bluebeam? Are

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01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:09.119
<v Speaker 4>they just trying to set us up for when the

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01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:10.800
<v Speaker 4>nukes fly? They can blame it on aliens? What the

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01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:13.880
<v Speaker 4>fuck are we watching here? Is there any realness to this?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. No, I am all ba humbug about

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01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 3>this UFO, and like I know people, Oh but the video,

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01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:24.319
<v Speaker 3>the video man video is two D. It's very hard

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01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:26.760
<v Speaker 3>to see. I was looking at someone read you know,

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01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:28.840
<v Speaker 3>I saw a thing. I'm not saying this is a

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01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.880
<v Speaker 3>definitive of like all of the very best footage or whatever,

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01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:34.279
<v Speaker 3>but I do know that, like, well, this is a

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01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:38.000
<v Speaker 3>year maybe two years ago, they released this whole reel

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01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:44.119
<v Speaker 3>of footage and there was this guy and I forgot exactly,

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01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:47.079
<v Speaker 3>but like he was the co founder of Compact Computers

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01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:49.840
<v Speaker 3>or some kind of crap. We're tired, really young as

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01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:54.600
<v Speaker 3>a zillionaire, you know, tech guru and now is like

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01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:59.039
<v Speaker 3>the self educated, self appointed world's greatest expert in video imaging,

1476
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:02.840
<v Speaker 3>and knows all about how all different brands of cameras

1477
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.039
<v Speaker 3>work and all of the different things about video imaging,

1478
01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:09.840
<v Speaker 3>and he just totally debunked this crap. He goes, look, man,

1479
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.239
<v Speaker 3>this plane. You can't see its wings. You know why,

1480
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:14.560
<v Speaker 3>and you know why. It's the same reason that it's

1481
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:16.640
<v Speaker 3>not where they think it is on the radar. Oh

1482
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:18.520
<v Speaker 3>my god, we can see it right there, but it's

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01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:21.079
<v Speaker 3>not on the radar. You know why, because it's three

1484
01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:24.439
<v Speaker 3>times further away than they think it is. They're looking

1485
01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:27.239
<v Speaker 3>out the window and it's an optional conclusion, man, and

1486
01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:29.760
<v Speaker 3>they think that it's closer, and it's not. It's further away,

1487
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:31.920
<v Speaker 3>and that's why they can't see its wings, and that's

1488
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:34.479
<v Speaker 3>why it's not on the radar. It's not a UFO,

1489
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:39.399
<v Speaker 3>it's a seven fifty seven, but it's over there, right.

1490
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.920
<v Speaker 3>And then he goes, look at this one. This is

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01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:46.439
<v Speaker 3>the ass end of an F fifteen flying in it's

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01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:52.039
<v Speaker 3>in infrared and in you know, reverse negative contrast, whatever

1493
01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:55.880
<v Speaker 3>the hell where the fire looks dark and the outline

1494
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.880
<v Speaker 3>looks funny. Everything is outlined. They show he showed an

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01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:01.039
<v Speaker 3>example of a little voice standing there and he has

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01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:03.960
<v Speaker 3>this big kind of halo outline around him, because that's

1497
01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:07.720
<v Speaker 3>how some kinds of infrared imaging work to help the

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01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:12.720
<v Speaker 3>operator discriminate and differentiate between different objects. Right, So he

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01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:16.680
<v Speaker 3>just he just goes down the list, one after another

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01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:19.880
<v Speaker 3>after another after another, where everything that you think you

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01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:23.840
<v Speaker 3>see here is easy to explain away as mostly essentially

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01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:26.840
<v Speaker 3>artifacts of video. And then the rest is all just

1503
01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:29.960
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot sightings. Man, the rest is all just I don't know.

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01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:32.279
<v Speaker 3>My buddy Mike swears to God he saw a UFO

1505
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:35.520
<v Speaker 3>over Lake Austin years ago, and I guess I believe him.

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01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:38.199
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I have a friend who's a UFO kook,

1507
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:41.439
<v Speaker 3>who's a really great guy. I really love him, and

1508
01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:44.920
<v Speaker 3>he's a really smart guy. And I asked him, would

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01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:47.880
<v Speaker 3>you please write an essay for me, like explaining like

1510
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:50.600
<v Speaker 3>all the very best stuff about like if you're really

1511
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:55.520
<v Speaker 3>trying to convince me to like, you know, threshold saying

1512
01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.880
<v Speaker 3>this stuff was crazy, dude, It was not rational. It

1513
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.560
<v Speaker 3>was not journalism, and anyway, it was not here's a

1514
01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:04.560
<v Speaker 3>collection of hard facts of what we know. It immediately

1515
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:11.199
<v Speaker 3>was like spiritual, metaphysical, transdimensional blah blah blah. We're just

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01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:13.600
<v Speaker 3>having fun now, dude, no, this is true.

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01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:17.760
<v Speaker 4>Well I was hoping you were going to tell me that, yes, Clint,

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01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:20.479
<v Speaker 4>I do believe in aliens and yes they are actually

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01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:22.359
<v Speaker 4>the only thing that are preventing the nukes from flying,

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01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:23.760
<v Speaker 4>because that made me feel better.

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01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Goodness that Yeah, Kenyakodos got our back. Dude, don't worry

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01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:27.399
<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all good, all right. We're going to end with

1524
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:30.880
<v Speaker 4>that pretending as if the aliens are going to keep

1525
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:33.880
<v Speaker 4>us alive during nuclear winner. Tell people where they can

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01:21:34.279 --> 01:21:35.960
<v Speaker 4>best get your books so that you get the most

1527
01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:37.399
<v Speaker 4>profit from it. Where where should they go?

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01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:41.199
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely go to Provoked book dot com and that will

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01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:43.880
<v Speaker 3>fords you over to Scotthorton dot org slash provoked and

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01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:45.800
<v Speaker 3>hopefully I have the right link on there where I

1531
01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:48.319
<v Speaker 3>get a little bit of extra kickback. But otherwise it's

1532
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:50.760
<v Speaker 3>just an Amazon and you can get the kindle as

1533
01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:53.640
<v Speaker 3>well on the paperback. The hardback is coming, although that's

1534
01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:56.119
<v Speaker 3>going to be a bit of a delay before that

1535
01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:58.520
<v Speaker 3>one's available. But the paperback and the kindle are both

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01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:01.560
<v Speaker 3>available now and very soon although not quite yet but

1537
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:05.960
<v Speaker 3>very soon it'll be on Apple Books and Google Play

1538
01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:07.840
<v Speaker 3>and all of that kind of stuff. For the epub

1539
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.960
<v Speaker 3>version and I'm working on I've already started to record

1540
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:16.720
<v Speaker 3>the audiobook. But since the book is half a million words,

1541
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:19.960
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be roughly back of the envelope estimate

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01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:23.159
<v Speaker 3>about forty eight hours long, maybe more than that. And

1543
01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:25.439
<v Speaker 3>so it's going to be a substack series and that's

1544
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 3>going to be as Scott hortonshow dot com and that's

1545
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:33.000
<v Speaker 3>my substack now has its custom you ereil there and people,

1546
01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:34.680
<v Speaker 3>if you sign up for the substack, you'll be able

1547
01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:36.960
<v Speaker 3>to get the audiobook as soon as it's available to us,

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01:22:37.279 --> 01:22:38.000
<v Speaker 3>not episodes there.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I just want people to know, even though I

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01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:42.520
<v Speaker 4>have not run the read the final version, I read

1551
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:44.920
<v Speaker 4>a I don't know, probably six or seven hundred page

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01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:47.000
<v Speaker 4>version back a year and a half ago, is a

1553
01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:49.319
<v Speaker 4>fucking masterpiece. I love all of your books, but I

1554
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:53.680
<v Speaker 4>think this is your whatever magnum opus. It's it's spectacular,

1555
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.840
<v Speaker 4>particularly if you have never read a book by Scott Horton.

1556
01:22:56.880 --> 01:22:59.239
<v Speaker 4>I really encourage you to get this one if you

1557
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:02.640
<v Speaker 4>think that. But there's any truth to the current war

1558
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:07.000
<v Speaker 4>footing bullshit narrative that is is the Ukraine War, I

1559
01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:10.319
<v Speaker 4>implore you, I beg you to fucking buy and read

1560
01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:13.000
<v Speaker 4>this book. And if you already know what Scott and

1561
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.720
<v Speaker 4>I know, buy this fucking book and give it to

1562
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.319
<v Speaker 4>your neo Kon relatives for Christmas and shove it up

1563
01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:20.079
<v Speaker 4>their ass and make them learn something for once of

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01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:22.640
<v Speaker 4>their fucking lives. Scott Horton, you're a treasure. Thank you

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01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:23.600
<v Speaker 4>so much for joining me again.

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01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Brother, Thank you Clint love Man.

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01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Liberty Lockdown. It's gonna your plock home to

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01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Liberty ain't come, but yeah it's on holl It's where

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01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:33.000
<v Speaker 4>did it come from?

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01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:33.600
<v Speaker 3>And where did it
