WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.599 The following presentation is Adel Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:28.879 Will You Look on the Sky? Do you feel? 3 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.560 The poll question why. 4 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:35.479 The story's told? 5 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:41.479 And left behind in shadows where the truth. 6 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:42.600 We find. 7 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:48.640 They built the tales on grafts. 8 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.320 And welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. 9 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:55.600 It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files podcast. 10 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:58.679 I'm your Host is Always Your Jobs. Thank you for 11 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:03.399 joining us today. As we record it's Friday, October eighteenth, 12 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.680 twenty twenty four. 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Please bear with me 24 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.040 if you will. We have two podcasts we answer emails too. 25 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.280 It can be overwhelming, but please know that we do 26 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:57.519 try to do our best to get to everyone without 27 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.799 any further ado. Let us bring on Becca, Becca. How 28 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:01.439 are you today? 29 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.560 Hi, I'm great. Thank you so much for having me on. 30 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:07.159 This is so exciting. 31 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.039 Yeah, thank you for joining us. You know, I've read 32 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:12.520 your bio and your story and I think we're gonna 33 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.280 have a really interesting conversation. So as we jump into it, 34 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.360 please take a few minutes and introduce yourself to the audience. 35 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:21.520 Okay, sounds good. 36 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.400 So my name is well, I call my name Rebecca, 37 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:28.360 but you can call me Beca. That's totally fine. I 38 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.520 just introduced myself as Rebecca to people. And I'm thirty 39 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:37.039 four years old. I am born and raised in Canby, Oregon, 40 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:43.800 which is literally thirty minutes south from Portland, Oregon. And 41 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:50.120 I am a one of three, the only girl in 42 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:52.919 my family, and I have two older brothers and we 43 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:57.000 are pastors kids, so my dad and my mom they're pastors. 44 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:59.400 In fact, they still are pastors. 45 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:04.960 And that was always our life growing up, church and 46 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:10.400 community and Camby is a really small place. So it 47 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:12.919 hate to even say this word, but it was like 48 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:18.280 we were like kind of celebrities, and that actually really 49 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:21.680 bothered me growing up because there was no privacy and 50 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.280 you're always like your family, it's. 51 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:25.360 Always in the spotlight. 52 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.759 So that was a dynamic that was hard for me 53 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:32.400 to like work through as a child. But I'm really 54 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:37.280 grateful my parents are like really incredible people, and they 55 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:43.159 love the Lord and they love their community. And yeah, 56 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.800 and then I am. Me and my husband were married 57 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:49.800 and we have we've been married, let's see, three years, 58 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:54.039 We've known each other ten or eleven years, and we 59 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:58.680 have four kids together. So it's a busy household. 60 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:03.080 I bet and stand it's I mean, they've written songs about, 61 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.599 you know, the pastor's daughter and the struggle it is 62 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:10.479 to grow up in that particular situation and can be 63 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.280 you know, as I look, it is definitely a smaller 64 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:17.079 type of town. Obviously over the last few decades, I'm 65 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:20.040 sure it's grown. I think it's currently around eighteen thousand people. 66 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:22.879 But being that center of attention does put a lot 67 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:23.639 of pressure on you. 68 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:28.480 Definitely did, and I hate to even like admit it, 69 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:33.720 but I fit that stereotype of I was a trouble maker. 70 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:38.399 My brothers were kind of trouble makers. But as I 71 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:43.839 grew up, the shame of that kind of melted away 72 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:49.279 because I as I got older and became more mature 73 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:54.480 in my relationship with God and Christ, I realized the 74 00:04:54.680 --> 00:05:00.800 enemy really attacks those families. And even when and you 75 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.439 know your parents are on guard and praying and the 76 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:06.399 whole community is praying against for you, I shouldn't they 77 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:11.680 against you for you, there's still that really like intense 78 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:17.560 aspect of the enemy is like taunting and any way 79 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:22.319 they can slip in to get into your head. It's 80 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.319 it seems more amplified. I feel like as a as 81 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:28.680 a pastor's kid. So when I was younger, I was like, 82 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:30.959 I'm never going to do this to my kids. I 83 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:35.000 know it brought a lot of opportunity. We had unique 84 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:38.519 opportunities to like travel all over the world as kids 85 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.399 because what my what my dad did in the ministry, 86 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:47.279 which was trained foreign leaders in their churches, and so 87 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.319 we were We've been all over the world, and that 88 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:52.240 opened my eyes. I would say that was one of 89 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:57.639 the reasons why I became said to like didn't believe 90 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:02.720 the narrative type of person. So I'm grateful for that. 91 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:07.040 But I was a trouble maker. I feel so bad 92 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:11.040 for my parents. I put them through it, to say 93 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:11.519 the least. 94 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.879 Yeah, you know, you touched on something that I've thought 95 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.399 about a lot. Satan doesn't spend his time on people 96 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:22.920 who have already you know, befel themselves. Right. He goes 97 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:28.160 after the ones that are godlike and or I shouldn't 98 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.399 say that that those who are in faith, right, those 99 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.560 who follow Christ, because that's the ones that he wants 100 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.600 to convert, That's the ones he wants to turn over. 101 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:37.600 He's not going to waste a lot of time on 102 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:42.600 those people who are already not saved at that point, right, 103 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:45.600 He's going to go after the people who have dedicated 104 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:50.199 their life to Jesus. And I think that's the ones 105 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.240 they focus on him. You just again, before we hit 106 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.439 the record button, we were talking about twenty twenty and 107 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.959 how that separated families, and this is one of those 108 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.680 one of the ways they used to divide and conquer 109 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:04.519 families as well. 110 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:14.480 Yep, yep, big time through a huge wrench in our relationship. 111 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:19.519 And I hate that it angers me now because I 112 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:22.839 love my parents and I know they try their hardest, 113 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:26.600 and I'm going to do everything in my power to 114 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.480 like bring honor to their name, but like they do 115 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.680 kind of just believe like everything they. 116 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:35.959 Hear from the news. 117 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:43.000 And during that time, my dad he kept the church open, 118 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:47.160 but he wore a mask and he had everyone wearing masks, 119 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:51.800 and there was like this huge contention of people. 120 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.040 Because I don't know if. 121 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.920 You're able to google it, but Camby is a very 122 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:04.439 obviously right winged community because there's so much farming out 123 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:10.199 there and there's just a much more of like Trump's 124 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:13.639 supporters and stuff like that, which it bothered me. Then 125 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.319 I'm less bothered by it now because I know the 126 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:21.639 truth that, as you always say, it's like two wings 127 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:25.000 on the same bird, and it's not really this side 128 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:29.040 or that side. It's all just one big clown show 129 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:30.720 right now at least, and. 130 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:36.600 Just it, people were like coming to the church intimidating. 131 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:40.799 My dad like you're foolish and you're this and you're that. 132 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:45.399 And my dad he really does have a heart for people, 133 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:49.399 and I hate that he was even put. 134 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:51.080 Through that whole situation. 135 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.759 But it's like I feel he didn't feel like he 136 00:08:54.879 --> 00:09:00.320 had much of a place because the law enforce and 137 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.639 Canby and everyone I know who doesn't even live in 138 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.519 Canby would say that it's corrupt. 139 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:10.960 There's been many, many things. 140 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.399 That have happened throughout my life when I lived there 141 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:21.000 that were just crazy. Like for real, quick example, right 142 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:23.840 in the neighborhoods next to where my parents grew are 143 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.600 where I grew up and my parents still live, a 144 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.720 police officer got a call on a guy who was 145 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:34.960 robbing this person's house. The police officer gets there, he 146 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:39.399 realizes the guy robbing the house was his drug dealer, 147 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:45.360 the cops drug dealer, and he doesn't even like the 148 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:48.240 guy had him in like a headlock till the cops 149 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.120 got there, and the cop was like, all right, well 150 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:53.559 you know you could. 151 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:54.919 You're free to go. 152 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:57.320 I don't even know how that went, but it was 153 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:02.600 in the newspaper like it was that extreme, and the yeah, 154 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:05.200 the police don't even really like have any respect for 155 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.519 my dad, and so I think there was a. 156 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:11.840 I don't know if it was like he was scared 157 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:12.519 into doing that. 158 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:14.399 And I hate to even say that because he's a 159 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:17.840 grown man, but and he can make his own choices, 160 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:21.879 but he's also under the four square. I don't know 161 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:26.200 if you know that denomination, but he's under kind of there. 162 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:34.320 I guess Mercy's I mean, he's at the mercy of them, 163 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:37.440 so it's like he had to kind of follow. 164 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.879 You know. I talked about the Four Square Church. I 165 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.879 think it's probably been six months now, but they're headquarters 166 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:47.600 out of LA and I did some research on the preacher, 167 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:50.320 the head of it, way back one hundred years ago, 168 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:56.600 Amy mcpheerson, I think, and that is its own rabbit 169 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:57.360 hole in itself. 170 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.360 Oh my, isn't it it is? 171 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:06.759 I was actually trying to dig up are they like Freemasons. 172 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:06.840 Because of their. 173 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:10.519 Waked her own kidnapping? Right? 174 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:17.559 Yeah, she was. She was a demented I hate to say, lady. 175 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:22.080 She had a lot of problems like drugs and just 176 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:24.360 I don't even know. 177 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:27.799 But we, like as a church would go. 178 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:33.440 They they hold conferences every year and when they're in 179 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:38.720 LA you always go see those monuments as if you 180 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:42.320 could call it that, and like her church, her house, 181 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.200 and every time we went, I just felt this icky 182 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.960 feeling inside of me, like this is weird. I don't 183 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:55.279 nothing about this feels right. But I've always had my 184 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:01.639 problems with the four Square denomination. There's a lot there. 185 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.519 I don't know if I want to get into that, 186 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:10.200 but it's I've seen things, and I think that's another 187 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:14.200 reason why I've never really believed the narrative, because when 188 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.879 you're in the church, and you're especially in the position 189 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.559 my dad is in, you literally see all the dirt, 190 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:24.360 all the dirt, and that's not just from the people 191 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.759 who go, that's pastors and. 192 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:34.519 Just hearing about all the scandals and just it's. 193 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:38.000 Just it's like, why, why. 194 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:39.039 Don't even tell me, you know. 195 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.320 But then I'm glad at the same time as an 196 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:46.200 adult that I know that no one's perfect in the church, 197 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:51.759 and it's it's a place where hurting people go. But 198 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:56.480 also like the pastors, they're they're not perfect there. They've 199 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.000 got their own demons. And yeah, it's a. 200 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.559 Lot, Yeah, that's I mean a lot. There's a lot 201 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:08.000 of people flocking to non denominational churches. We have Listeners 202 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:09.799 in my area where I live. They meet at the 203 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.039 Lake the first Sunday of every month and they have 204 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:13.200 their own prayer meetings. 205 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:14.799 And that's awesome. 206 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:18.279 Yeah, it really is. Because the Methodist church that's broke. 207 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.720 And then you have four Square, which has like nine 208 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.360 million people, and you look at the it's just you know, 209 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:29.039 people are flawed. And I just mentioned on yesterday's podcast, 210 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:31.799 so many people will go to church to be told 211 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:34.159 what the Bible says instead of sitting down and reading 212 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:34.679 the Bible. 213 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:35.799 Mm hm. 214 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:38.240 That's really what people should be doing. 215 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:44.960 Absolutely absolutely. I mean I hate to even admit it. 216 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:51.240 I keep saying that, but I've just started reading the Bible, 217 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:56.799 like truly reading it in the last like three years. 218 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:01.080 And I went to Bible College, like we studied the Bible, 219 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:05.200 but it was it was more like his history things 220 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:11.519 and dates and what this, you know, I don't know. 221 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:21.360 It wasn't about the things that really do shape society, 222 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:25.480 you know today, and it was just kind of surface level. 223 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:30.279 And looking back, I know one of my professors, he 224 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:35.399 I think would is a flat earther, but I would 225 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.919 have he would have never said anything back then because 226 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.120 he knew his job was on the line if he did. 227 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.919 Probably and see even saying that it's like crazy because 228 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:52.120 it's literally biblical cosmology and it's right there in the Bible, 229 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.639 and he took the Bible very literally. He would always 230 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.480 say that, and which I don't see why you wouldn't, 231 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:03.639 but he man, he was let go. And I just 232 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.679 sometimes I wonder why because I never really got the 233 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:09.919 full picture why. And I'm like, I wonder if he 234 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:13.440 was trying to push that a little bit and they 235 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.679 were just like, yeah, sorry, you gotta go. 236 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:19.480 But I don't know, that's just an assumption. 237 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:22.039 Yeah, And that's what I was going to get to. 238 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:25.000 It's really sad that someone you assumed it was a 239 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:26.960 flat earther and he didn't have the courage to say 240 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:30.399 it because once again his job was at risk. And 241 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.240 yet again, at the same token, how many Bible verses 242 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:37.720 can we pull one hundred and fifty two hundred that 243 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:42.159 it doesn't move and you know everything that really supports 244 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.919 the flatter theory more than it does heliocentrism. 245 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:47.200 Yeah, totally. 246 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:50.240 And I think even when the firmament was brought up 247 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:56.039 in Bible College, it was more excuse like away as 248 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:00.639 like the ozone layer or something stupid like that, like oh, well, 249 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:05.039 that's just describing the ozone layer. And then I would 250 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:10.159 have questions like, okay, so, why don't we have you know, 251 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:13.799 asteroids hitting us and stuff like that. Why is it 252 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.279 that in my lifetime I have never once heard like, oh, 253 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:23.960 this asteroid or this you know comment or whatever hit 254 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.080 so and so somewhere or something like that. 255 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.519 I just always wondered, like, how is it possible? 256 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:35.879 Like I felt God was protecting us and had us 257 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:38.000 in a protected. 258 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:39.519 Dome per se, but I. 259 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:44.080 Didn't really know enough and didn't know where to look 260 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:46.279 and didn't know who to talk to about it. 261 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.000 It was just kind of one of those things you know, 262 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.000 you kind of pack. 263 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:50.879 Away in the back of your mind and you always 264 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:53.240 wonder about, like how is this possible? 265 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.159 And why would the Bible say it? 266 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:58.559 And why in the very front of the Bible where 267 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:01.039 everybody starts. You know. 268 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:08.519 It's just I feel bad because I'm like, I want to. 269 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.400 Tell my kids, and my son he's eight years old 270 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:18.279 and he's all into the sci fi and he likes 271 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:20.799 things like that and stuff. 272 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:24.440 So I do little by little. 273 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:27.519 He's homeschooled, so I little by little tell him things. 274 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:32.200 And the problem I'm having is he and my parents 275 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:36.920 are extremely close, and when I brought them the flatter, 276 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:41.480 they both looked at me like you're a looney and. 277 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.480 Are you okay? Like they literally were like looking at me. 278 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:48.559 The first thing my mom said, bless her heart, She 279 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:57.240 was like, but there's pictures, mom, just because there are pictures. 280 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.160 Those aren't even real pictures. And of course I kind 281 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.440 of started losing her when I said those aren't even 282 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:06.720 real pictures. I could see her face starting to okay, 283 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:11.680 like you're crazy, and I'm like, mom, listen, do you 284 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:13.319 think that evolution is real? 285 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:16.559 And she's just like, well no, And I'm. 286 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:20.759 Like, they teach that to us in school in the 287 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:26.599 science books. It shows a literal ape evolving into a 288 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.799 man in our science books, and they tell us that 289 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:34.839 like where we were frogs or we were fish or 290 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.640 so if you don't believe that, how can you believe 291 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.920 what they're telling us about the quote unquote universe and 292 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:47.799 where we're at and what we're on And yeah, it 293 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:50.920 just they look they're like, well, we just don't want 294 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:53.559 this like affecting your relationship with God. I was like, 295 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:59.960 oh my, if anything, it has drawn me closer literally literally, 296 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:04.079 because it's like physically I'm closer than what I thought 297 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:11.559 I was. And yeah, it's just something that I can't 298 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:14.440 really talk about with them, and I don't want them 299 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:17.640 to think I'm like brainwashing my son. But then I'm like, 300 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:25.240 but he's being brainwashed by mainstream science though, So it's 301 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:29.839 like it's I'm trying to be tender about it, and 302 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:32.519 I'm trying to just listen to the Lord, like how 303 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:35.079 do you want me to go about this? But we're 304 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:37.599 not really in the science yet. He's still learning how 305 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:40.960 to like really read and write and get that underway, 306 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:42.559 so I'll get there. 307 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:46.160 We teached that the public education was the tenth plank 308 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:51.440 of the Communist manifesto, and that really switched in the 309 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:54.480 fifties was kind of the last era where mom stayed 310 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:56.319 at home and dad went to work. He made enough 311 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:58.680 money to have a house, a car, and go on 312 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:02.160 vacation two weeks a year. And as the sixties came about, 313 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:08.400 of course the women's lib movement, and you slowly saw 314 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:11.160 the prices of everything escalate to you know, mom and 315 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.799 dad went to work, and that's when really the public 316 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:20.039 school system started educating our children. And I don't think 317 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.599 that it was really ever meant to be that way. 318 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:27.039 You know, education should be the responsibility of family and 319 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:31.000 the community. And I remember being Gez twelve years old, 320 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:34.200 maybe eleven, I don't know, but the kindergarten through third grade, 321 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:36.680 I went to my local elementary school down the street, 322 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.440 and was meant to be kindergarten through sixth grade. But 323 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:41.759 nineteen seventy nine they started bussing, and I got on 324 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:44.039 a bus and drove thirty minutes into the city to 325 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.000 the city for school. So that's really where they started 326 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:50.880 taking a community based education away. That was the same 327 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:55.039 Jimmy Carter signed the Department of Education when they really 328 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:58.680 took it over in the late seventies before Reagan came 329 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:02.799 into office. It is something that I know is definitely 330 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:05.960 daunting to a lot of people. It was certainly to 331 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:08.759 me when I first decided to homeschool. But it's one 332 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:10.400 of the best decisions I've ever made. 333 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:16.559 Yeah, for sure, absolutely, especially in I don't know how 334 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:20.839 it is over there on the East Coast, but the 335 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:26.319 Portland school system is so nasty and corrupt and disgusting, 336 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:33.559 and oh man, it's just I wouldn't even consider it 337 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:38.279 for a second. And that doesn't even I mean, depending 338 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:40.599 on where you stand with school shootings and what you 339 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:46.240 believe about that. That wasn't even the main reason to 340 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:54.640 keep my kids home. But it's the science, the sexual orientation. 341 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:57.680 Who are you You want to be a girl? Do 342 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:00.400 you want to be a boy? It's whatever you want, 343 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:01.960 you want to be a cat, you want to be 344 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.319 a dog, sure, you know whatever, And. 345 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.920 It's just sick, it's disgusting. 346 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:13.960 And yeah, my kids will never step foot in a 347 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:19.079 public school and I'm proud of that. And my husband 348 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.319 luckily is on the exact same page as me there and. 349 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:25.039 I'm grateful for that. 350 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:31.839 And you mentioned your awakening. Was it twenty nineteen, twenty twenty? 351 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:33.119 Yeah, I was. 352 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:39.759 I think it was right before twenty twenty. The most unique, 353 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:44.960 wonderful story. I had been in and out of jobs, 354 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:48.799 and my husband and I weren't quite together yet, but 355 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.880 we were trying to get ourselves together. And it was 356 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:55.319 totally the Lord that brought us back together during this 357 00:22:55.440 --> 00:23:00.160 time too. I wonder one hundred percent believe that that 358 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:07.319 he wanted everyone to be on the same you know, 359 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:11.839 when all this shi t hit the fan and I 360 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:13.960 got this job, this random job I. 361 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:15.039 Found on craigslist. 362 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:20.480 It was at a hydrocolonic clinic and TMI, it's for 363 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:30.160 people who need a colon clintse. Yeah, it's a holistic 364 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:36.440 way of keeping your body detoxed and clans which is 365 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:41.079 it's awesome. I mean, it's I'll talk about that in 366 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:45.799 the second but Rebecca, who was the owner of the place. 367 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:49.599 She wrote me back and she wanted to interview me, 368 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.000 and I was like, wow, that was cool, and so 369 00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:57.519 I had the interview. Everything went great. I got the job, 370 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:03.640 and it was about I want to say, six months 371 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.000 into me working there, It's when they kind of started 372 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:08.920 this whole COVID talk. 373 00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:12.559 And at first I was like, weird. 374 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:16.519 I mean, they tried to press stars a while ago, 375 00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:20.039 they tried to do the bird flu and so I'm like, 376 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:24.400 I'm not really sold on it quite yet. I'm just 377 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:27.039 kind of like whatever, you know, there's just I already 378 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:31.480 knew that news was just there to scare us into 379 00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:36.160 doing things, and so I was just like, you know, whatever. 380 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:40.079 But at the time, I was also pregnant, so I 381 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:44.079 was just kind of like a little worried about how 382 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:48.880 that would pan out. But so when this whole thing 383 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:53.359 started Rebecca, I had actually never met her in person 384 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:57.000 because she has a clinic down in New Mexico and 385 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:03.119 she and I and my stant manager would do face 386 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.319 timing together, and she was very vocal about her. 387 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:07.240 Faith and that she. 388 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.839 At first she kind of would dropping breadcrumbs like you say, 389 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.519 like she would say, yeah, I only read out of 390 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:19.559 you know, King James. And she was very adamant about that, 391 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:21.519 and I was just like, Okay, that's cool. 392 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:26.640 I guess she likes that old style of writing. 393 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.920 That's like what's going through my head, you know, because 394 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.400 I'm not really on the up and up even with that. 395 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.440 Things have been taken out purposefully, and there's certain versions 396 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:41.960 that are kind of corrupt. And I had no idea. 397 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:44.960 And I mean I grew up in the church, you know, 398 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.920 and so I'm like thinking, I know like everything and 399 00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:53.759 not at the same time. And so she's just like, hey, 400 00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:55.079 do you want to have a Bible study? 401 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:57.920