Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
Speaker 1: demand on the iHeartRadio app. President Trump has offered some
Speaker 1: rare criticism of Vladimir Putin. Oh, we've got China news too.
Speaker 1: It's where we kick off swamp Watch.
Speaker 2: I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
Speaker 2: And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 3: Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
Speaker 3: are dune.
Speaker 2: The other side never quits. So what I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 4: So now now you.
Speaker 2: Train the squad, I can imagine what can be and
Speaker 2: the unburdened by what has been. You know, Americans have
Speaker 2: always been going at President. They're not stupid.
Speaker 4: A political flunder is what a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2: Whether people voted for you with not swamp watch, they're
Speaker 2: all countoid.
Speaker 4: President Trump right now, is uh is in the Oval
Speaker 4: office with reporters and he was asked a couple of
Speaker 4: questions about the truth social posts from Lane where I
Speaker 4: said he was not happy with the missiles that were
Speaker 4: flying from Russia into Kiev and asked Vladimir or told
Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin to stop.
Speaker 3: I didn't like last night. I wasn't happy with it,
Speaker 3: and we're in the midst of talking peace and missiles
Speaker 3: were fired and I was not happy with it. That's
Speaker 3: what I meant, And that's you know what I assume
Speaker 3: that's what you mean, sir. Yeah, if they keep falling,
Speaker 3: will you consider additional sanctions towards Russia.
Speaker 5: Or what will you do?
Speaker 3: I'd rather answer that question in a week. I want
Speaker 3: to say we can have a deal. No reason to
Speaker 3: answer it now, but I won't be happy.
Speaker 2: Let me put it that way. Things will happen, Okay.
Speaker 2: So he wasn't happy with it.
Speaker 1: To play a little catch up, it is the fact
Speaker 1: that Russia attacked Kiev an hours long barrage of missiles
Speaker 1: and drones. The death toll has moved to twelve, the
Speaker 1: wounded to about ninety. It was Russia's deadliest assault on
Speaker 1: Ukrainian capital since last lie, and the reason it was
Speaker 1: even more egregious is because peace efforts were apparently coming
Speaker 1: to a head. Zelensky said the attack was one of
Speaker 1: Russia's most outrageous, and Vladimir Putin has been silent on
Speaker 1: the matter has not said anything thus far, at least
Speaker 1: that has surfaced about Trump's rare rebuke of him.
Speaker 4: I don't know what he would say. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't know if he just in my mind he's laughing
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 2: Absolutely he doesn't care because.
Speaker 4: Like I said earlier, I would have wished. I have
Speaker 4: no problem with the president's message. It's a great message.
Speaker 4: But do it in person. Do it either on the phone,
Speaker 4: he can call Vladimir Putin anytime he wants, do it
Speaker 4: in front of international TV cameras. And absolutely decry this
Speaker 4: because as much of a reach as he has on
Speaker 4: social media, it is a weak message to post on
Speaker 4: truth social or I should say, it's the weakest medium
Speaker 4: in which to post something like that or to have
Speaker 4: something said like that. Now on the China side of everything,
Speaker 4: China has denied the president's assertion that the two sides
Speaker 4: are actually involved in active negotiations over tariffs. China says
Speaker 4: any suggestion of progress in the matter is as groundless
Speaker 4: as trying to catch the wind. The president did say
Speaker 4: that he expects that final tariff rate on China exports
Speaker 4: would come down substantially from what is currently one hundred
Speaker 4: and forty five percent, and when he was asked if
Speaker 4: he's engaged with China, he said everything is active. His
Speaker 4: own Treasury secretary says, there's no formal negotiations, but something
Speaker 4: is happening supposedly.
Speaker 2: Here's something fun.
Speaker 1: You remember all of the craziness surrounding the signal app sure,
Speaker 1: and the fact that Pete haig Seth is still getting
Speaker 1: raped over the coals for having a second signal chat
Speaker 1: we learned this week with his wife and his brother
Speaker 1: who will both work for the Department of Defense, and
Speaker 1: his lawyer as well. This was all about the hoo
Speaker 1: thyes and real time information about what the United States
Speaker 1: would be doing to battle them and Yemen and the
Speaker 1: whole bit. You remember it all now, well, you remember
Speaker 1: that why it came to light is because a journalist
Speaker 1: was included in that group chat. The journalist that has
Speaker 1: been raked over the coals by all the powers that
Speaker 1: be in the administration. His name is Jeffrey Goldberg. Well,
Speaker 1: the President's meeting with him today. The President is meeting
Speaker 1: and sitting down for an interview with Jeffrey Goldberg, the
Speaker 1: editor and chief in chief excuse me of The Atlantic.
Speaker 1: The President saying about it the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: What can.
Speaker 2: Be so bad?
Speaker 4: Well, the what was the Kevin Spacey Netflix show?
Speaker 2: Oh, the h was a House of Cards? Cards?
Speaker 4: Okay, So the House of Cards version of this would be, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Goldberg has a whole lot more information than he's
Speaker 4: letting on than he published, and he used that as
Speaker 4: leverage to get a sit down with the president.
Speaker 1: The House of Cards version of this also is Trump
Speaker 1: is going to make mincemeat out of this person. It's possible,
Speaker 1: still possible. Trump said, I am doing this interview out
Speaker 1: of curiosity and as a competition with myself, just to
Speaker 1: see if it's possible for the Atlantic to be truthful.
Speaker 1: He said, are they capable of writing a fair story
Speaker 1: on Trump? The way I look at it? What can
Speaker 1: be so bad?
Speaker 2: I won interesting? Uh.
Speaker 4: The administration also has asked the Supreme Court to allow
Speaker 4: it to enforce the ban on transgender service members in
Speaker 4: the military. The way the policy is written, it would
Speaker 4: generally disqualify from military service individuals who have gendered dysphoria
Speaker 4: or have undergone medical interventions for gender dysphoria. This comes
Speaker 4: as a judge in Washington State tried to issue a
Speaker 4: nationwide injunction. So the Solicitor General on behalf of the
Speaker 4: government filed this emergency application for the court wrote in
Speaker 4: this filing the judges injunction cannot be squared with the
Speaker 4: substantial deference that the Defense Department's professional military judgments are owed.
Speaker 4: This is similar to a band that was in effect
Speaker 4: that was implemented in the first Trump term in office.
Speaker 1: Elon Muskin Scott Pssent apparently had gotten into it. Scott
Speaker 1: Bissent's name is We've said it a lot, We've had
Speaker 1: it in our mouth.
Speaker 2: Quite a bit.
Speaker 1: He get my Treasury secretary's name. He has made a
Speaker 1: lot of headlines in recent weeks. He is, of course
Speaker 1: the Treasury Secretary and apparently Opposent and Elon Musk had
Speaker 1: a very loud shouting shouting match in the West Wing.
Speaker 1: It was described as two billionaire middle aged men thinking
Speaker 1: it was the WWE.
Speaker 2: I guess the whole.
Speaker 4: Thing came down to a guy named Gary Shapley, who
Speaker 4: was a whistleblower during the Biden administration, former IRS agent
Speaker 4: who leaked details about Hunter Biden's taxes, and Elon Musk
Speaker 4: wanted to have it went straight to the President to
Speaker 4: have this whistleblower put in charge of the IRS as
Speaker 4: a temporary commissioner until the Trump pick could be confirmed
Speaker 4: by the Senate. Scott Bessen said, Hey, this is my job,
Speaker 4: this is my department. I get to make those decisions.
Speaker 4: And apparently they went after each other. The way the
Speaker 4: White House describes it or explains it, they don't necessarily
Speaker 4: say that it wasn't a shouting match, but that Caroline Levitt,
Speaker 4: the White House Press Secretary, said something along the lines
Speaker 4: of this is just further proof that the president has
Speaker 4: picked people who are passionately patriotic about their jobs. Okay,
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with fighting done, nothing wrong with you know,
Speaker 4: the strongest voices, the loudest voices.
Speaker 2: Trump loves it. Trump loves that.
Speaker 1: The White House, by the way, has been hearing a
Speaker 1: chorus of ideas on how to get people to make
Speaker 1: more babies Americans to get married and have more children.
Speaker 1: One Prepare One proposal would reserve thirty percent of scholarships
Speaker 1: for the Fulbright program for applicants who are married or
Speaker 1: have children. Another would give a five thousand dollars cash
Speaker 1: baby bonus to every American mother after delivery, every American mother,
Speaker 1: every just ones that are married.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's interesting. I would have thought that they
Speaker 2: would have wanted. You know, I haven't read the fine print. No,
Speaker 2: you may be right. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Third calls on government to fund programs that educate women
Speaker 1: on their men's cycles, in part so they can better
Speaker 1: understand when they are ovulating and able to conceive. Please
Speaker 1: put that one in motion. I can't wait.
Speaker 4: Please Government, the government to tell you about your period.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Oh my good lord. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: As you heard, Heather mentioned in the news, aircraft crash
Speaker 1: occurred at Langley in Norfolk, Virginia. The crash involved in
Speaker 1: experimental mx aircraft mx as, took place while it was
Speaker 1: on approach to the base.
Speaker 4: There is a pretty well known arabatic pilot who may
Speaker 4: have been at the controls of that. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to give a name only because it's not confirmed at
Speaker 4: all that he was the pilot, but there is some
Speaker 4: concern that this was a well known aerobatic pilot that
Speaker 4: then crashed. You said, Langley in Norfolk, Virginia.
Speaker 2: I believe there's an air show coming up that is why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Mark Zuckerberg, the guy who brought you the
Speaker 4: Facebook back in the old days, now in Facebook and
Speaker 4: of course the parent company Meta, which owns WhatsApp and
Speaker 4: Instagram as well as Facebook, now suggests that.
Speaker 2: Social media is over.
Speaker 4: The people we follow, the messages they post increasingly feel
Speaker 4: like just noise in the ether.
Speaker 2: Social media has become less social.
Speaker 4: And that's what Mark Zuckerberg said in more than ten
Speaker 4: hours of testimony over three days last week in the
Speaker 4: opening phase of the FTC's anti trust trial against Meta,
Speaker 4: the parent company of Facebook, and those others. He said
Speaker 4: that the company has lately been involved in the general
Speaker 4: idea of entertainment and learning about the world and discovering
Speaker 4: what's going on and shifting away from what has been
Speaker 4: interpersonal communication.
Speaker 2: And that they've intended. Should he been doing it that way? Right?
Speaker 4: There were times when I think they failed miserably. But
Speaker 4: Facebook was talking about using its platform as a broadcast outlet,
Speaker 4: that people were going to start making shows specifically to
Speaker 4: be posted on Facebook. That's kind of like what they
Speaker 4: do though, like videos, right, video, Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 4: like sitcoms and dramatic shows and things like that.
Speaker 2: Well, it's got a pivot. It's got a pivot.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like you said earlier when I
Speaker 1: was about I barely look at it anymore, and you said,
Speaker 1: it's because you're bored, and I said, yeah, probably.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're all caught up.
Speaker 1: I remember in two thousand and eight or whatever, when
Speaker 1: this was all becoming a thing, and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: so and so's doing this, and look at so and
Speaker 1: so and whatever. And now you now so and so.
Speaker 1: You're tired of seeing so and so. You know, I
Speaker 1: mean you saw so and so. You know, say he
Speaker 1: has risen a couple of days ago with the family,
Speaker 1: and you know them kids.
Speaker 2: You've seen those kids through the years. You're caught up.
Speaker 4: You're not surprised at how big little Johnny's got exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's like, what's next, Right, That's the question you've
Speaker 1: got to keep asking yourself if you're Mark Zuckerberg's of
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 4: Zuckerberg actually had a surprising moment, they say, during this testimony,
Speaker 4: the FTC showed him a memo that he wrote, and
Speaker 4: he sent it to company executives for five seven years
Speaker 4: ago twenty eighteen, suggesting that it would be better for
Speaker 4: the company to spin Instagram off to its own entity voluntarily,
Speaker 4: as opposed to waiting for the government to come in
Speaker 4: and tell them they had to do that. He said
Speaker 4: that Instagram was potentially undermining Facebook's success and that businesses
Speaker 4: that are independent often performed better than they would without
Speaker 4: the big parent company over the top of them. That
Speaker 4: is an interesting look at the way social media has changed.
Speaker 4: And I mean, if you think about the weirdness that
Speaker 4: is the time we live in when everything seems to
Speaker 4: be happening faster lately, I've been sucked into these memes
Speaker 4: where they show a picture of the Right brother is
Speaker 4: taking off and Neil Armstrong on the moon and talk
Speaker 4: about how close those time periods were, the sixty years,
Speaker 4: seventy years it was between those two, and that we're
Speaker 4: farther past the moon landing than the Right brothers were
Speaker 4: to the moonlight. Like it, that time is so weird
Speaker 4: and everything is happening so fast. When it comes to
Speaker 4: technology and digital interaction, it's.
Speaker 1: All about content and what is going to captivate you.
Speaker 1: Captivating content, right, it's not just the picture of so
Speaker 1: and so from high school on Easter with the kids
Speaker 1: in the pastel floral dress that's super cute. You go
Speaker 1: to TikTok now and you're getting that personal touch, but
Speaker 1: you're also getting content. I was on TikTok yesterday because
Speaker 1: I'm listening to new podcast about TikTok solving crimes. It's
Speaker 1: like this amateur sleuth area space and the amount of
Speaker 1: videos of women just getting ready doing their makeup, where
Speaker 1: you're picking up makeup tips. You're hearing about this girl's
Speaker 1: life and what what her day is going on, and
Speaker 1: what she's like dreading about her day. But you're also
Speaker 1: seeing like, oh, I should shade that area while she's
Speaker 1: solving true crime. I mean, it's like content has been
Speaker 1: taken from you know, black and white to now you know,
Speaker 1: three D hypercolor, and Facebook just does not keep up
Speaker 1: with that from what it is right now.
Speaker 4: So what's the what I would love to know and
Speaker 4: would probably invest a lot of money in is okay?
Speaker 4: So what's the next version of social media? Is it
Speaker 4: that that's what they need to figure out? Clearly, the
Speaker 4: algorithms that exist in these in these sites give you
Speaker 4: stuff that they know is going to trigger your lizard
Speaker 4: brain and keep you coming back for more. Is the
Speaker 4: next iteration of that an AI powered algorithm where it
Speaker 4: makes up stuff, it makes up people that you would follow,
Speaker 4: or it makes up posts that would keep you in.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to swing back towards authenticity handwritten notes.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what it's going to be.
Speaker 2: But what was I going to tell you? Man?
Speaker 6: There's a trend right now called de influencing where it's
Speaker 6: similar to what you're talking about, where people are like,
Speaker 6: I'm going to uninfluence you by pairing everything down and
Speaker 6: showing you the real MEAs.
Speaker 4: This may not be the right version of that, but
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of that when it comes to
Speaker 4: Hollywood actresses that are downplaying. That's not the right word.
Speaker 4: They're not wearing they're not wearing makeup. Kelly Clarkson is
Speaker 4: one of them in her talk.
Speaker 1: Shows, Anderson hasn't worn makeup for like three years now,
Speaker 1: and Alicia Keys.
Speaker 6: So I think it's that's similar, But I think the
Speaker 6: de influencing is more like I'm going to give you
Speaker 6: my honest review of this product, and I'm not going
Speaker 6: to tell you what they're well.
Speaker 2: Because it's so transparent.
Speaker 1: Right when you're looking at Instagram and somebody's excited about
Speaker 1: a product.
Speaker 2: It's like, are you really come on? Come on my
Speaker 2: coconut based lip balm. Yeah? I love it.
Speaker 1: Actually, it's well, do you haven't worn makeup for three
Speaker 1: years either?
Speaker 4: It's been a while. It's been a minute tech talk.
Speaker 4: When we come back, Mark Saltzman was going to join us.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Coming up in the next hour, we'll be diving into
Speaker 1: strange science. Have you heard about the caterpillar on Awahoo
Speaker 1: that wears the bones of.
Speaker 2: Its tray bone collector? Caterpillar? Is that an Alex cross
Speaker 2: the bone collector?
Speaker 1: This may shock you, but I have not read a
Speaker 1: lot of James Patterson.
Speaker 2: And that was also a movie with you know that
Speaker 2: guy and that cow? Was that right about the author?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 2: I believe? So okay, I wasn't going to challenge it.
Speaker 2: So our whole internet's down the whole building. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: something going on in here? Is it China? It could be?
Speaker 2: Could be.
Speaker 4: We have been following a couple of stories which no
Speaker 4: Internet is going to make it a little bit more difficult,
Speaker 4: but one of them as we've been telling you is
Speaker 4: the story of a small plane crash at Langley Air
Speaker 4: Force Base just outside of Virginia, or I should say
Speaker 4: in Virginia. I don't know a whole lot about that.
Speaker 4: There are apparently an air show that's going to go
Speaker 4: on this weekend, so it could potentially be one of those.
Speaker 4: And then, as Heather mentioned, also a shooting at a
Speaker 4: business in Southwest Miami Dade in the Miami area. Of course,
Speaker 4: the police there have told television stations that the suspect
Speaker 4: is dead, that there could be several people who are injured.
Speaker 4: There's still helicopter shots of SWAT and officers in tactical
Speaker 4: gear with canines going literally car to car in what
Speaker 4: is a lot filled with cars. I mean, this is
Speaker 4: apparently some sort of a automotive business or used car lots,
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 2: So we're keeping an eye on both of those stories.
Speaker 1: Mark Saltzman gets us up to date with all things
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Speaker 1: Well, it's something we all go through in our lives.
Speaker 1: We know at least somebody who when you text them.
Speaker 1: It's the green bubble, isn't it? As iPhone or Android?
Speaker 1: Which is the best mark. You know, you're going to
Speaker 1: piss off a lot of people.
Speaker 7: You can't win this argument.
Speaker 2: You cannot.
Speaker 4: Well, you're you're probably one of those rare individuals who
Speaker 4: has tested He.
Speaker 2: Probably has one of both, hundreds of probably one of both.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, I'm a dual wielder. Yeah, it's just you know,
Speaker 8: it's occupational hazard. I have to use both iPhone and
Speaker 8: Android to review apps.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, thank you.
Speaker 2: And then and then you have all those burner phones,
Speaker 2: of course I do.
Speaker 8: Actually, there's a burner app that's great really, both Android
Speaker 8: and iPhone.
Speaker 7: It's called text now. It's free t e X T n.
Speaker 8: OW one word, and you choose what city you want
Speaker 8: to look like you're from. You could say La or wherever,
Speaker 8: and it'll give you an avail area code and it'll
Speaker 8: ring just differently on your existing phone. You don't need
Speaker 8: a separate phone, and you can call and text as
Speaker 8: if you had another phone.
Speaker 1: You just helped so many people commit crimes and affairs.
Speaker 7: It can be used for legit purposes. Let's say you're
Speaker 7: going on Okay, you're set up on.
Speaker 8: You go on a date through a dating platform and
Speaker 8: you don't want to give out your real work and
Speaker 8: they could they could turn out to be a creep.
Speaker 8: Or you're selling something on Craigslist or I don't know, Facebook, Marketplace,
Speaker 8: and you don't want to give out your real info.
Speaker 8: You have a fake number that until you gain trust
Speaker 8: with the person your dating.
Speaker 1: One of my girlfriends she had somebody tried to open
Speaker 1: up a bank account and her name, and she on
Speaker 1: the group chat she asked our single girlfriend, how do
Speaker 1: I get a burner number again? And she, I think
Speaker 1: sent something to this effect exactly.
Speaker 6: I used to have an iPod in high school and
Speaker 6: the way to get around not having a cell phone
Speaker 6: was to use text.
Speaker 2: Now, oh awesome, great hack.
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you had an iPod Touch, which doesn't need
Speaker 8: a cellular connection, as long as you have Wi Fi,
Speaker 8: you can make calls over well you can do that
Speaker 8: over what's yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah great?
Speaker 2: All right. So when it comes down to it iPhone
Speaker 2: or Android?
Speaker 7: All right? So yeah, I open up that can of worms.
Speaker 8: In a recent article looking at a very subjective look
Speaker 8: at different categories and who's the winner for each, and
Speaker 8: then I know it's kind of lame, but I didn't
Speaker 8: come up with a conclusive winner at the end, but
Speaker 8: I did think that I gave the reader enough info
Speaker 8: to make a decision. So ease of use iPhone. Android's
Speaker 8: getting better and iPhone's getting more difficult over time as
Speaker 8: it's adding new features, which I welcome, but it is
Speaker 8: a little more difficult to use generally an Android than
Speaker 8: it is iPhone.
Speaker 7: So iPhone wins in the ease of use.
Speaker 8: You're buying a phone for your ninety five year old
Speaker 8: Ma or granddad iPhone. There are exceptions, but that's my
Speaker 8: two cents. For cost Android, you know iPhones are even
Speaker 8: the least expensive iPhone, They're not.
Speaker 7: They're not cheap as Android.
Speaker 8: On the other hand, for under one hundred dollars, you
Speaker 8: can get a decent, not great, but a decent Android
Speaker 8: phone where you know, I'm talking about like a Moto
Speaker 8: G Play or a Samsung Galaxy A series phone not
Speaker 8: S series. So hundred bucks for an Android that is
Speaker 8: going to be good enough for most people out there.
Speaker 8: Form factors as in what the choices you've got for
Speaker 8: how your phone looks and operates. Android is the winner
Speaker 8: because iPhone only comes in one basic rectangular or candy
Speaker 8: bar shape they call it, whereas Android you can get
Speaker 8: phones that flip that that open up to become a
Speaker 8: tablet like they fold.
Speaker 7: There's more sized.
Speaker 8: Options because Android, you know there, iPhone are the only
Speaker 8: folks who Apple are the only people who make iPhone,
Speaker 8: and so you're limited in what you can buy. Android
Speaker 8: is open to everyone else, so you've got a lot
Speaker 8: more selection, and so in price and in form factors,
Speaker 8: Android wins there.
Speaker 7: For photos.
Speaker 8: I say it's a tie because yes, iPhone, especially the
Speaker 8: sixteen Pro, and it is as good as the Samsung
Speaker 8: Galaxy S twenty five Ultra or the Pixel nine Pro,
Speaker 8: which are Android based.
Speaker 7: So it really, it really is.
Speaker 8: A tie because both the high end Androids and the
Speaker 8: high end iPhones are great.
Speaker 7: Video calling iPhone FaceTime.
Speaker 8: Is just easier and smoother, more intuitive, I think than
Speaker 8: you know, Google Meet or other platforms like Zoom works
Speaker 8: on both, but natively, I think FaceTime is just the
Speaker 8: easiest you can.
Speaker 2: Get and can't I use FaceTime with others now.
Speaker 7: You can, but it's not so graceful.
Speaker 8: You get a link like if you're on Windows or Android,
Speaker 8: there's a way to FaceTime with iPhone. People but it's
Speaker 8: almost as if Apple was forced and they probably were
Speaker 8: by the EU to make it work, but it just
Speaker 8: doesn't work that great. So yes, thank you Gary that
Speaker 8: that FaceTime is still the best experience between Apple devices.
Speaker 8: And then finally, security is I would say Apple still
Speaker 8: with Android, when you install an app, you don't get
Speaker 8: prompted do you want it to track you? Whereas iPhone
Speaker 8: for the last three years. Now, if you install an app,
Speaker 8: it I'll say ask do not to track? Do not track,
Speaker 8: and you can say yes, and then the app that
Speaker 8: you're installing they won't know where you were before or
Speaker 8: after you use their app. But Android it's a little
Speaker 8: bit more difficult to install. Better cybersecurity. Apple just I
Speaker 8: think they have your back. There's things I don't like
Speaker 8: about Apple, but definitely I think they take privacy and
Speaker 8: security a little bit more seriously overall than Android. And
Speaker 8: it's easier to control because it's just one company that
Speaker 8: makes that phone where you know, but you got that
Speaker 8: walled garden right, you can't download apps from other app
Speaker 8: store is easily on iPhone. They want you to stay
Speaker 8: in the ecosystem.
Speaker 2: What is the market share between the two?
Speaker 8: So iPhone is number one in the US, but worldwide,
Speaker 8: Android is number one. So yeah, in the West where
Speaker 8: there's money, so Canada, US, Mexico, and the UK, iPhone
Speaker 8: is number one. Virtually every other country Android is number one,
Speaker 8: So market share worldwide it still goes to Android, but
Speaker 8: there's also a lot more Android phones because it's open
Speaker 8: to multiple companies. But yeah, you can't touch Apple in
Speaker 8: the US.
Speaker 7: They're just by far the number one phone maker. But
Speaker 7: people have money. They have a thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Generally speaking, let it not be lost that we also
Speaker 4: like things that are dumb.
Speaker 2: I mean, we like the things that are the easiest
Speaker 2: to use. In many cases.
Speaker 1: We ran out of time, but I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to you about your iPhone spying on you.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can do that next week.
Speaker 7: Yeah, sounds good.
Speaker 2: I have a related related issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was having a phone conversation with the front
Speaker 1: and I said a phrase, let's just say it was
Speaker 1: let it go, something like that, let it go. I
Speaker 1: repeated it, and then I got off the phone and
Speaker 1: I hit Spotify and I hit shuffle, and the son
Speaker 1: that came up was again, I don't remember exactly the phrase.
Speaker 2: It wasn't as trite.
Speaker 1: It wasn't as trite as let it Go with something
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Speaker 2: Sus as hell.
Speaker 1: And I've noticed that on my Spotify, you know, created
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Speaker 7: Well, chat next week. Yeah.
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Speaker 7: The next ad she saw was that ad.
Speaker 8: So it's like a little too coincidental, but yeah, all right,
Speaker 8: well we'll put a pin in that for next week.
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Speaker 4: The NFL Draft, some of the backstories about some of
Speaker 4: the great stories that we'll talk about in the NFL Draft.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, the NFL Draft used to just be like.
Speaker 1: A little boardroom somewhere in Milwaukee, and now it is
Speaker 1: a primetime event. It is a three day event, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people say it is a full year.
Speaker 1: There is no off season in the NFL. Just a
Speaker 1: bare bones kind of explainer. Picks number one through eighteen.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the draft order, those are determined
Speaker 1: by your win loss record from the prior season, So
Speaker 1: the worst team in the NFL gets the highest pick.
Speaker 1: If one or more teams are tied on a bad record,
Speaker 1: a tie breaker is used, including strength of schedule. Now,
Speaker 1: the number one pick is the Tennessee Titans this year,
Speaker 1: and they are it's all but a lock that they're
Speaker 1: going to go with cam Ward quarterback out of Miami.
Speaker 1: Apparently the GM has confirmed that the team that the
Speaker 1: team would not be dealing the number one pick. Sometimes
Speaker 1: teams will give a bunch to to move up in
Speaker 1: the draft and get the guy that they want. In fact,
Speaker 1: that has been rumored to be what Sean Payton is
Speaker 1: going to do. Right now. The where is Sean Payton at?
Speaker 2: Where is he at? A good question?
Speaker 1: Anyway, They're they're saying that he's going to move up
Speaker 1: and he's going to go and get He's going to
Speaker 1: go and get the the tight end out of Michigan,
Speaker 1: Colson Loveland. Now you're also going to see maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit of surprise at pick number three. The New
Speaker 1: York Giants are on the clock at number three. They
Speaker 1: need a quarterback that goes without saying, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of talk that they may just say efet and
Speaker 1: go with Deon sanders Son for quarterback. But the safe
Speaker 1: bet is Abdul Carter defensive and outside linebacker at a
Speaker 1: Penn State.
Speaker 2: So I've always been fascinated.
Speaker 4: It seems like every year that when it comes to
Speaker 4: draft talk like this, there's there's a couple two, three
Speaker 4: guys that we know are going to go in the
Speaker 4: first round. And like you said, that cam Ward is
Speaker 4: the first pick is likely, and you've got Travis Hunter,
Speaker 4: Abdul Carter, But Shador Sanders, Deon sanders Kid, he's been
Speaker 4: playing at Colorado, has generated more headlines than any of
Speaker 4: the others.
Speaker 2: It seems well.
Speaker 1: Part of the reason is because he's Deon Sanders Kid, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd say eighty percent.
Speaker 4: And exploit Does that play into a team all of
Speaker 4: decisions to take him?
Speaker 2: All of it does.
Speaker 1: Distraction plays into it, Hype plays into it. Personne every
Speaker 1: thing about you and where you're from and what you've
Speaker 1: done plays into the draft. Prospection like it, it just
Speaker 1: does how you fit in with the locker room? Are
Speaker 1: there too many stars? Are there not enough stars? Do
Speaker 1: they need a veteran presence? Would their money be spent
Speaker 1: putting that together as opposed to getting someone young? And
Speaker 1: I mean, these are all things that a GM has
Speaker 1: to weigh in coordination with the head. In a likely world,
Speaker 1: the GM and the head coach work hand in hand.
Speaker 1: When that is a fractured relationship, all hell breaks loose
Speaker 1: and teams crumble. And we've all seen it happen. Sometimes
Speaker 1: they start with a great relationship and then then the
Speaker 1: team goes to hell because the relationship sours. Two of
Speaker 1: the widely considered as the best in this class are
Speaker 1: that Penn State, Ed Rusher, Abdul Carter, which is why
Speaker 1: I think the Giants would be I mean, they make
Speaker 1: a big splash, and that's what New York does. It's
Speaker 1: New York, you know, in getting Shader Sanders, but like
Speaker 1: this is the smart move to get the edge guy.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know who the hell am I.
Speaker 1: And then the other guy that's making a lot of
Speaker 1: headlines is Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter won the Heisman and
Speaker 1: he plays both cornerback and wide receiver with sor Sanders.
Speaker 1: He has said that he wants to play both in
Speaker 1: the NFL, really, which some say shows just how much
Speaker 1: he should not be uh taken seriously, because there's no
Speaker 1: freaking way you can play at that level on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball regularly.
Speaker 4: Right, guys have done it. I mean Sanders has done it.
Speaker 4: He's caught passes as a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: But in fact, with the Dion Sanders thing, I would
Speaker 1: say that's worked against his son. I think that that's
Speaker 1: why you're seeing him go anywhere between three and thirty
Speaker 1: three is because you've got to deal with Dion Sanders
Speaker 1: and the orbit that surrounds that well.
Speaker 4: And I heard it just in the hallway just a
Speaker 4: few minutes ago. You think about with the name, image
Speaker 4: and likeness monies that are coming in for some of
Speaker 4: these guys. Now, some of these some of these college players,
Speaker 4: before they take a snap of professional football, have more
Speaker 4: money than the head coaches.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and that attitude.
Speaker 4: You you're talking about this new class of of of people,
Speaker 4: I think to your point that they take personality into account.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have a whole class of these young football
Speaker 4: players who already believe they're bigger and better and brighter
Speaker 4: than anybody that exists on their current on their upcoming team.
Speaker 2: That's the way it's been for quite a long time.
Speaker 2: The players. You've been without the money because I think
Speaker 2: that the.
Speaker 1: Players have out made the coach oh for years, decades.
Speaker 1: That's why a head coach presence is so important. When
Speaker 1: you've got a week stream head coach, You're no one's
Speaker 1: going to listen to you. You've got to bring the credit,
Speaker 1: you got to bring the gravitas and all of that
Speaker 1: is why that is.
Speaker 2: Such an important position.
Speaker 1: And I mean the incentives and all the things that
Speaker 1: the coaches get as if you're if you're a winning coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean especially these coaches that have been
Speaker 1: around a long time. I mean they speak to the
Speaker 1: young guys just their longevity alone.
Speaker 4: Well, in the mock draft that we had printed out
Speaker 4: from USA today, your Shudur Sanders goes to Pittsburgh, I
Speaker 4: believe it is so you got Mike Tomlin as the
Speaker 4: head coach. That would be a guy that I would
Speaker 4: pair those up and at least make it a workable relationship.
Speaker 4: I don't know about the other coaches. So that's today,
Speaker 4: when when is the first pick. Is it later tonight?
Speaker 4: It's like I think it starts at five five o'clock now,
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