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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. My name is Hauntingly Christa, at least
Speaker 4: that's what the Internet calls me.
Speaker 2: And you are a paranormal investigator. What would you what
Speaker 2: would you describe yourself as?
Speaker 4: Paranorl investigator, spooky content creator, your friendly neighborhood ghost girl,
Speaker 4: all the things.
Speaker 5: That's fun, that's fun.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I I saw some of your work,
Speaker 2: you know, online, and I thought it'd be interesting. We're
Speaker 2: kind of around the same aerial and area. I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, non terrible, it's just pretty basic. So and
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to dive into, like, you know,
Speaker 2: how you got into this stuff and what kind of
Speaker 2: drove you to get into the paranormal and the spooky
Speaker 2: and when did it start?
Speaker 4: And oh gosh, well, the interest interested in the paranormals
Speaker 4: started quite young, just because I always say I became
Speaker 4: interested in the paranormal basically my entire life because it
Speaker 4: was something that I always knew was there. I've always
Speaker 4: had paranormal experiences. And then when I was about seven,
Speaker 4: we moved into my family home that my parents still
Speaker 4: live at, and it was very haunted. I don't know why.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like super old or anything like that, but
Speaker 4: it was very haunted. And like, that's where most of
Speaker 4: my paranormal experiences came from. One well, ironically enough, my
Speaker 4: very first one. There were like weird things like knocking,
Speaker 4: and I think that I could see ghosts when I
Speaker 4: was very young. But it's a foggy memory at this
Speaker 4: point because like I always, I always knew that ghosts
Speaker 4: existed before anyone could even tell me about them, and
Speaker 4: so it was just kind of like something I came
Speaker 4: to my parents about eventually, and I was like, this
Speaker 4: is happening. And my dad believes in ghosts, but my
Speaker 4: mom doesn't. So it was kind kind of dynamic. Yeah, So,
Speaker 4: especially like in their house that they live in, like
Speaker 4: the way that I grew up in, I would go
Speaker 4: to them about it, and my mom's like, you're making
Speaker 4: things up, lover, but like up, and then my dad
Speaker 4: would be like, oh, I'm experiencing it too. So it
Speaker 4: was interesting that way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I find more more women have surprised and
Speaker 2: that they're more have intuition when it comes to spirits
Speaker 2: and being able to like you say, you can say,
Speaker 2: feel them or like under like feel their presence around. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I find compared to men, I find that like women
Speaker 2: about I've even my my wife, she's kind of she's
Speaker 2: kind of always been in tune to that stuff a
Speaker 2: little more than I have. She messed around with wige boards,
Speaker 2: had like, uh, she talked to a wigi board said,
Speaker 2: you know, the wigboard said when I'm around, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: knock this teddy bear off the shelf, and then it
Speaker 2: would fall off all the time, even when it was
Speaker 2: like push away at the back, So.
Speaker 4: It's like, what's going on here, but you're like picking
Speaker 4: up on like the vibe almost. But the very first
Speaker 4: like concrete experience where I was like, Okay, this is real,
Speaker 4: this is happening that I just go back to all
Speaker 4: the time. I think I was around like maybe like nine,
Speaker 4: and it didn't even happen in my child at home,
Speaker 4: but it happened with my dad and we were driving
Speaker 4: downtown Oakville, which is where I grew up, and we
Speaker 4: were passing by this building which we learned later was haunted.
Speaker 4: Had no idea it was haunted at the time. They
Speaker 4: actually did like a ghost trackers. Do you remember the
Speaker 4: y TV show ghost Trackers. It's like for kids.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure I used to watch YTV a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know how legitimate it was. It
Speaker 4: was giving like Zach Beggans, but like smaller, but they
Speaker 4: did investigate like real like haunted legends. And we passed
Speaker 4: by this building that I later would learn was haunted.
Speaker 4: But when my dad and I were driving past it
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, He's obviously driving, and I'm in
Speaker 4: the passenger seat. Definitely was too young to be in
Speaker 4: the passenger seat, but I was there and we both
Speaker 4: looked to the left at the same time and we
Speaker 4: saw this thing like drop, like almost a ninety degree
Speaker 4: angle and scream and like, whenever we talked about it
Speaker 4: to this day, we're just like this, it's something that
Speaker 4: like haunts us to this day because it was that
Speaker 4: real and that traumatizing. It was like it was a
Speaker 4: scream that I've never heard before. So we pulled over
Speaker 4: to the side because we thought it was like someone
Speaker 4: who had like skateboarded or something and like fell down
Speaker 4: this staircase like outdoor staircase, extremely like hard. So my
Speaker 4: dad hopped out to go check, and then he came
Speaker 4: back to the car. He's like, no one's there, and
Speaker 4: I was like, what are you talking about. Hopped out
Speaker 4: of the car, and we're both looking at this like
Speaker 4: empty parking lot where that like that would be the
Speaker 4: only way that someone could go if they were going
Speaker 4: to run away from that fall, which you wouldn't have
Speaker 4: been able to get it from that fall. There was
Speaker 4: nothing there, no one was like walking the distance and
Speaker 4: we just had like a weird feeling about it. Later
Speaker 4: we found out it's that it's a theater slash public
Speaker 4: library and they say it was built on an ancient
Speaker 4: burial ground and now is funded by like a little girl.
Speaker 2: Ghost house disembodied voice. That's pretty creepy. Yeah, and this
Speaker 2: is strange, Bruce. So I have an old fashioned whiskey
Speaker 2: in my nice skull cup.
Speaker 4: You know, love it?
Speaker 2: It's yes, yes, I kind of have to. You know,
Speaker 2: it's just part of the nostalgic aspect of this show
Speaker 2: and that and then you know, I was, what are
Speaker 2: you drinking on?
Speaker 4: It's called a saki Collins weird Collins?
Speaker 2: Is it got sake and.
Speaker 4: Then something else? Yeah, it tastes like a fermented lemonade almost.
Speaker 5: It actually sounds pretty good.
Speaker 4: We did.
Speaker 2: It's really good a long time. Go to wed an
Speaker 2: episode about a strange Japanese legends, and we drank h
Speaker 2: sake way too much. I didn't realize how strong that
Speaker 2: stuff was. And then you can get obliterated drinking too
Speaker 2: much of it, because it's it's pretty strong wine, because
Speaker 2: it's like rice wine or whatever. Right, Yeah, that's interesting
Speaker 2: I've never heard anyone. You know, I've had many people
Speaker 2: on the show drink all sorts of things. But that's
Speaker 2: that's a new one, Socky Collins. That's pretty funny.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I've always been to this stuff too.
Speaker 2: That was a very young kid, uh and and it like,
Speaker 2: you know the fans that have using wigi boards and
Speaker 2: and you know, my my aunt came from Jamaica and
Speaker 2: she told me, like to never use it and stuff
Speaker 2: like that by yourself. And then I was sixteen and
Speaker 2: I'm like using the weige boards when I'm like drinking
Speaker 2: and stuff. I was a pretty crazy kid, and I've
Speaker 2: had all sorts of weird experiences. Lights turn off, scratches
Speaker 2: on my buddy. It's funny. We're like we're calling ghosts
Speaker 2: and we want to like prove that it, you know,
Speaker 2: if it exists, and are they around? And my buddy
Speaker 2: was Native and it's like he had the darkest skin,
Speaker 2: so we're like, can you scratch him? And then he
Speaker 2: pulls up his sleeve and there's like all these scratch
Speaker 2: marks down his arm, like the white ones you think
Speaker 2: about like nails running down And it was weird because
Speaker 2: we watched him sit there this sweater on, right. So
Speaker 2: I've had also sorts of these experiences, and then so
Speaker 2: as you got older, you became more intrigued with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it was actually when I was really like young,
Speaker 4: and like at that point when I was experiencing things,
Speaker 4: I was scared of it. Like, well, to be fair,
Speaker 4: I'm still scared. There was like a time period there
Speaker 4: that I pretended like I wasn't, like when I first
Speaker 4: started parailm investigating by myself, I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: not scared of nothing. I'm scared. I still get scared,
Speaker 4: but then I didn't want to experience it. I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, like what's going on? And especially because
Speaker 4: it was my own house too for the most part.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So the wife won't let me use
Speaker 2: the weedge board even though I'd like to, because this
Speaker 2: the house that we're living in. It was just dropped
Speaker 2: here and like the eighteen hundreds, we don't know work.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how they did that, but according
Speaker 2: to the records and all that stuff, and it's on
Speaker 2: it's next door to her father's property, right, And then
Speaker 2: he said it was it just it was just dropped here.
Speaker 2: He had to renovate it, and like there was like
Speaker 2: dead cats in the walls. And my buddy was like,
Speaker 2: that's some witchcraft. So I don't know. He's Christian. So
Speaker 2: they have all their own ideas of what's going on,
Speaker 2: and they tell you not to mess with this stuff.
Speaker 2: And I've heard that from numerous people. Don't mess with
Speaker 2: this stuff. It's too late. I already have. I believe
Speaker 2: I was cursed from the Ouiji board at some aspect
Speaker 2: of it, of what I was doing, especially when I
Speaker 2: was provoking. I had it because I started getting into
Speaker 2: the alien stuff when I was fairly young, and then
Speaker 2: so when I would use the weedge board, it would
Speaker 2: start telling me that it was something that was actually
Speaker 2: not dead, that it was an intelligent being from outside
Speaker 2: of our reality. Oh yeah, interesting, yeah, And who knows
Speaker 2: if that's my own subconscious or whatever. And that's why
Speaker 2: I like, you know, I try to be even though
Speaker 2: I do believe in absurd things to everyday people like
Speaker 2: I do believe that there is lower vibrational entities, like
Speaker 2: when people consider reptilians or some of these demonic.
Speaker 5: Forces or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I do try to come at things at least
Speaker 2: kind of logically to explain away first, and then if
Speaker 2: I can't do it, then something's going on, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you always got to debunk first on investigations, and.
Speaker 2: That's where the home the hard thing is is like
Speaker 2: if you have if your your own house is haunted,
Speaker 2: you don't really want to invoke them to become more active.
Speaker 2: And like I said, we just covered the Harrisville haunting
Speaker 2: and how that was, like the ghost was kissing the
Speaker 2: kids at night. They're like tucking them in and then
Speaker 2: kissing them on the floor. Weird shit like that. So
Speaker 2: it's like, how you do you really want to try
Speaker 2: to invoke something in your own home and then you
Speaker 2: have to live with it. And there's people that died
Speaker 2: in this house. A baby died, someone just died not
Speaker 2: long ago in this place. So I'm always worried about
Speaker 2: like having to invoke those things out of the home
Speaker 2: that I live in. But then you you didn't want
Speaker 2: to pursue it any further. Well, when you were young.
Speaker 4: At least, it just scared me. So I just kind
Speaker 4: of tried to pretend like it wasn't happening. And then
Speaker 4: occasionally I would sit down with my dad and I'd
Speaker 4: be like, so this is go on, Like what are
Speaker 4: you experiencing? You feel like me too? Like whatever, But
Speaker 4: it was it was never anything super super crazy. It
Speaker 4: was like knocking, weird noises that can't be explain like
Speaker 4: not how settling noises, shadow figures, but nothing like nothing
Speaker 4: like the conjuring, hauntings or anything like that. But it
Speaker 4: was just something that, Okay, there's clearly something else going
Speaker 4: on here, and I'm not sure why. So as that,
Speaker 4: as I got older and I got less afraid of it,
Speaker 4: started getting into supernatural, like the television show Big Fan.
Speaker 4: Up until about season ten, we got a little bit repetitive.
Speaker 2: But out of Buddy that told me always, He's like,
Speaker 2: you should watch that show. You probably love it. I
Speaker 2: never got into it, but I've used sound clips from
Speaker 2: their show and stuff like that on the on the
Speaker 2: soundboard that have just because it is kind of funny.
Speaker 5: He's like, fourth, it's a third encounter.
Speaker 2: No, it's a fourth encounter. He's like freaking as he's
Speaker 2: getting chased by aliens. It sounds like something I get into,
Speaker 2: But like, at this point, right television is I feel
Speaker 2: like pretty shitty, So I might have to go back
Speaker 2: and start watching all those seasons.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I recommend to anyone watch from season one to
Speaker 4: season five. That was like what Eric Krypti, the creator
Speaker 4: of Supernatural, wrote, and it should have ended at five watched.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna check Everyone's told me to check
Speaker 2: it out, so I have to at this point.
Speaker 4: But yeah, as I started watching shows like Supernatural and Charmed,
Speaker 4: and like I loved Charmed still do.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we just brought it up on the
Speaker 2: is that the one with the little creepy boy, right?
Speaker 5: That is that?
Speaker 2: It was three witches Okay, charm I was thinking of Passions. Sorry,
Speaker 2: Passions are it's the same kind of vibe where it's
Speaker 2: like a soap opera kind of vibe and there's this
Speaker 2: weird little kid that's like diosaster sides. It's a weird one.
Speaker 4: But yeah, as I started like watching more shows like that,
Speaker 4: started going online and learning more about different ghost stories,
Speaker 4: it just kind of became something that I got less
Speaker 4: scared of and like more intrigued by. And so as
Speaker 4: I was growing up, I was kind of just in
Speaker 4: that mode and it was something I always wanted to
Speaker 4: do further, but I was always afraid of what people
Speaker 4: would think of me, and they would.
Speaker 2: Judge me, yeah, and don't worry.
Speaker 5: We've all been there, and then just stop caring.
Speaker 4: Exactly. It was the pandemic for me. I was like
Speaker 4: at home and I was like, okay, well what do
Speaker 4: I have to lose? At that point, I just turned
Speaker 4: twenty five. I'm like, hey, I'm like in my mid twenties.
Speaker 4: I don't really care what anyone thinks about me anymore
Speaker 4: and locked down in the pandemic. So now I'm going
Speaker 4: to do this. So I just started sharing online my
Speaker 4: interest and I started a parent on investigating by myself.
Speaker 5: Well that's cool, like.
Speaker 4: Little, little by little, until I started sharing more ghost
Speaker 4: stories on TikTok. That led me to blow up on
Speaker 4: a TikTok a little bit, and then I met my
Speaker 4: team through TikTok.
Speaker 2: So then I I remember like, there is a an
Speaker 2: investigative team in Branford, and I was going to try
Speaker 2: to contact them at some point. It's like the Branford
Speaker 2: Paranormal Society, I think. And I never got around to
Speaker 2: doing it because I was trying to look at doing
Speaker 2: some of paranormal investing.
Speaker 5: Uh you know I I like, I said, I've.
Speaker 2: Used weed boards, I have the equipment, my dad bought
Speaker 2: me I was eighteen, like the ghost detecting equipment where
Speaker 2: it had like the spirit box, the the what was
Speaker 2: it called laser pointer which shows the grid, the frequents
Speaker 2: or whatever not the guy.
Speaker 5: It's not Geiger meter.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like that where it's it shows the Yeah,
Speaker 2: well I'm record, uh yeah, and then I really what
Speaker 2: I really like, you know, I'm I was a fan
Speaker 2: of Ghost Adventures too, as much as like I do
Speaker 2: think Zach Begans is a massive douchebag. I do, He's
Speaker 2: such a douchebag. But I used to watch that all
Speaker 2: the time and it gave me the vibe that I like.
Speaker 2: And and I was super into horror movie since I
Speaker 2: was a kid, right and and it's funny because it
Speaker 2: led me to doing a horror podcast with my buddy
Speaker 2: in Ireland and somehow he just came into my life.
Speaker 2: It's weird as things happen. And uh, we just finished
Speaker 2: doing like Freddy Versus Jason. People are loving it actually
Speaker 2: because we did a hold deep diving a Friday thirteenth
Speaker 2: in the summer, and that's the that's the stuff that
Speaker 2: I loved since I was a kid. Was the idea
Speaker 2: of being scared, but there was no harm involved. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not a real As I got older, I'm not
Speaker 2: really a big fan of heights, right, I'll go on
Speaker 2: roller coasters saying on a really tall like, I'm just
Speaker 2: I can't control it, right, But talking about the investigate
Speaker 2: ghosts or to watch a scary movie that keeps you
Speaker 2: on edge, that invokes this feeling out of you that
Speaker 2: you I can't turn away from it.
Speaker 4: I feel it.
Speaker 5: I'm sure you're the.
Speaker 4: Safe yeah, oh definitely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so and then you found so you found
Speaker 2: your team, and then did you guys just start getting
Speaker 2: into uh going around to different places. My biggest question too,
Speaker 2: is like how do you get it into these locations too?
Speaker 4: So yeah, it all sorts of different ways. So when
Speaker 4: my teammates reached out to me, like we call him
Speaker 4: the lead investigator because it was kind of like his
Speaker 4: creation was his creation for three guys. Yeah, so there's.
Speaker 2: How many male female female or male female?
Speaker 4: So there's rafe and he it was his creation walking
Speaker 4: among us. That's our team and his wife Kelly.
Speaker 2: So that's awesome. That's actually a song. So I did that.
Speaker 2: It's cool.
Speaker 4: Really, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I wonder if I don't know if you got it
Speaker 2: from that, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a very the logo.
Speaker 5: Famous punk band. That's cool.
Speaker 2: And then so and you guys kind of collaborated, like
Speaker 2: you guys found interest.
Speaker 4: So he started seeing well and also people were tagging
Speaker 4: him because he has a little bit of a following
Speaker 4: on TikTok as well. People they keep doing this, but
Speaker 4: there were a lot of people were tagging him in
Speaker 4: my videos when I first started blowing up, and I
Speaker 4: at that point it was like at the start of
Speaker 4: my TikTok, so there were too many things. I was
Speaker 4: missing it and he couldn't send me a message because
Speaker 4: I didn't follow him. And then eventually I saw a comment,
Speaker 4: so I followed him back and he immediately messaged me
Speaker 4: and was like, let's set up a video call. And
Speaker 4: I was like, because like at first, I'm like, I
Speaker 4: don't really, I don't know your strangers.
Speaker 2: Gotta be careful, especially like obviously we've all seen catfish,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you never know what
Speaker 2: people never know, and you.
Speaker 4: Know, he like, I just I wasn't sure, and he
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I mean my wife were starting this team,
Speaker 4: so like, do you want to be part of it
Speaker 4: and like all this stuff. So I was like I
Speaker 4: entertained it for some reason. And so I got on
Speaker 4: a call with them and immediately, I don't know it,
Speaker 4: we just like clicked like we're family, like we've known
Speaker 4: each other before.
Speaker 2: It is weird how things like I don't know, I
Speaker 2: believe everything I'm for a reason.
Speaker 5: That's just part of my mantra that I do.
Speaker 2: I think that these things are set up in this
Speaker 2: reality to help people either learn or coexist with people
Speaker 2: that are like minded with them. And that's the same
Speaker 2: way how I met Aaron from Ireland. We both followed
Speaker 2: each other. I had a couple TikTok accounts. I'd one
Speaker 2: that blew up, they got shutout band and then this,
Speaker 2: and then all of them are gone now because they
Speaker 2: just came after me. And now I think my voice
Speaker 2: is like something that they tag and stuff. This guy, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they did not like what I was saying, but the
Speaker 2: thing is, and I used it as a way to
Speaker 2: try to wake people up and stuff. But I saw
Speaker 2: him and I'm like, oh, obviously you always loved horror movies.
Speaker 2: And then we just started talking. I thought he was
Speaker 2: some old guy. I didn't know, Like I was just guessing, Oh,
Speaker 2: he's in a horror fan he's probably some dude in
Speaker 2: his forties. And then it's so crazy. We're like best
Speaker 2: friends and he lives on the other side of the world.
Speaker 2: We think the same, We've had the same kind of
Speaker 2: life experiences, we have the same sense of humor, the
Speaker 2: same sort of political views, all that type of stuff,
Speaker 2: And it's just interesting how things set up in that
Speaker 2: kind of way in life, Like things are pulling you
Speaker 2: toward awards something right, even you have you coming on
Speaker 2: the show is like, I do believe that people are
Speaker 2: supposed to connect and in form new things and collectivize
Speaker 2: and kind of become something better and learn from each other.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Definitely, that's very cool, man, I'm jealous.
Speaker 5: I would love to come back with interesing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, we definitely have to. Honestly, you should. I'll
Speaker 4: give you Rape's contact information after because he he's also
Speaker 4: like a horror movie collector.
Speaker 5: Oh cool, and horror movie fan.
Speaker 4: PanAm will obviously enthusiasts, So you guys can probably have
Speaker 4: a good conversation too.
Speaker 2: That would be interesting. And so out of so many
Speaker 2: plays I could we could take this uh, and then
Speaker 2: you guys started panor like did you what was your
Speaker 2: first location? Like how did this start? How did this
Speaker 2: kind of get going?
Speaker 4: So we started at their house actually there, well they
Speaker 4: don't live there anymore, but it had been crazy haunted
Speaker 4: and they were having lots of weird experiences in their basements.
Speaker 4: So they're like, what better places start than at home? Right,
Speaker 4: So that's what we started. And then I was getting
Speaker 4: different contacts come to me with different locations. I had
Speaker 4: this follower of mind reach out with this this haunted
Speaker 4: Army camp Base Camp, Old Camp, and so ended up
Speaker 4: going there and doing an investigation with them there. And
Speaker 4: that was like the first year.
Speaker 2: And then can't do anything significant like in the first year,
Speaker 2: like anything compelling.
Speaker 4: Some things I'm the capital activity, like the little motion
Speaker 4: sensor capitals. We had a lot of activity with that.
Speaker 4: We also got a lot of orbs. At first, I'm
Speaker 4: starting to lean away from orbs. Rayf and Kelly are
Speaker 4: still on orbs a little bit, depending on the ORB
Speaker 4: just because what do.
Speaker 2: You mean, Because like I've I've had some I could
Speaker 2: I could tell you about some weird orbs that I've captured.
Speaker 4: Same there's some weird ones that I'm like, hey, there's
Speaker 4: something happening here, and.
Speaker 2: Some of it's dust, some of it's dust, some.
Speaker 4: Of its bugs. But there has been like a lot
Speaker 4: of research that I've come across and a lot of
Speaker 4: people talking about it on Internet about how all orbs
Speaker 4: are on some level dust or bugs, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I can see that there's some of them that just
Speaker 4: moved so strangely, so.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's almost impossible for what I caught. So
Speaker 2: there at one time, there was one time on a bridge,
Speaker 2: we were walking across a bridge and uh, the wife
Speaker 2: took a picture of me, or took I took a
Speaker 2: picture of the bridge or something that there was a
Speaker 2: clear green orb that you could zoom into and it
Speaker 2: looked like plasma like and there's no green orbs have
Speaker 2: to do with nature, and I suppose to be nature's
Speaker 2: spirits or maybe just residual energy. There's no way it
Speaker 2: was a bug or anything like. It was like I
Speaker 2: was on the other side of the bridge. It was
Speaker 2: like in the middle of the bridge and this like
Speaker 2: big green or you could zoom into. I have it
Speaker 2: somewhere on my way back on my Instagram and in
Speaker 2: two different pictures. It moved and you could zoom in
Speaker 2: it look like plasma. And then there was one time
Speaker 2: we were in a hotel. I was.
Speaker 5: I used to drink a lot, a lot more than
Speaker 5: I do now.
Speaker 2: I was, you know, and I was a crazy young
Speaker 2: dude and we were in Niagara Falls. We were in
Speaker 2: a hotel room and wife took a picture of me
Speaker 2: naked like pisson or whatever. Right and behind me was
Speaker 2: a red orb and I've never seen that in my life.
Speaker 2: And red orb was more negative energies. And this is
Speaker 2: other time where I was in a weird dark spot
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: I used Wiji boards a lot. I was, you know,
Speaker 2: into the dark occult researching aliens and the occultism stuff.
Speaker 2: And you could zoom in. You could see like a
Speaker 2: clear as day bread or behind me and like where
Speaker 2: you know in those hotels where they like the hot
Speaker 2: ta or the tub opens up to like a window
Speaker 2: and then the bedrooms on the other side of the window.
Speaker 2: So she was like sitting on the bed or staying
Speaker 2: there and you could clearly see like there's no way
Speaker 2: it would be dust or bug, there's nothing in the room.
Speaker 2: And I was just standing there and then you see
Speaker 2: it behind me and it's a very clear red ORB
Speaker 2: that and you could zoom in and that's what I
Speaker 2: always like, what the hell is it? And you look
Speaker 2: at it and there's it's literally like red and like
Speaker 2: looks like some like plasma. It's weird. So I tend
Speaker 2: to think that some of those I don't know how.
Speaker 2: I don't know what else it could have been. I
Speaker 2: have no idea.
Speaker 4: It's it's ones like that, and it's experiences like that
Speaker 4: and things like that. That's what keeps seeing on the
Speaker 4: ORB train.
Speaker 2: But it's just I don't know, I don't think where
Speaker 2: they're like, that's an ORB you know, it's just like
Speaker 2: this thing just flying. It's like it could be dust, right,
Speaker 2: And I caught that we went. I took a bunch
Speaker 2: of pictures in uh In why of the wax museums
Speaker 2: in Niagara Falls, and I thought that there's a couple
Speaker 2: of pictures I could caught orbs. But then there's things
Speaker 2: you could see that were definitely dust because it's old
Speaker 2: as shit. Man. The Louis whatever, the famous one that
Speaker 2: is not very doesn't look that great, but you could
Speaker 2: that do all the white orbs and like ass because
Speaker 2: it easily could be dust. The ones that are colored.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's very hard to say that because I've
Speaker 2: seen pictures of glowbugs and it's like, I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: The colored ones definitely they get me thinking, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: But that's what we were getting like a lot during
Speaker 4: our So when we started, we started kind of halfway
Speaker 4: through the year in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: Two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so summer of twenty twenty two is when we
Speaker 4: started investigating, and then so we did two investigations and
Speaker 4: then we started posting at the beginning of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 4: and then since then it's been like investigation after investigation
Speaker 4: after investigations. So we either book locations, so will if
Speaker 4: it's a hotel, If it's an airbnb, then obviously we'll
Speaker 4: book it and pay for it. Sometimes we call locations
Speaker 4: and we're like, hey, we heard this place's hunt, Like,
Speaker 4: can we get in for an investigation? Sometimes they have
Speaker 4: a fee, sometimes they don't.
Speaker 2: Weird because I'm always wondering about that because I would
Speaker 2: love to like do that sort of thing, and it's sad.
Speaker 2: My one my co host is in uh lives in
Speaker 2: New Brunswick now, but he used to live like close
Speaker 2: to me, and I always wanted to do this. We
Speaker 2: go for a ghost walk or we're gonna I mean
Speaker 2: me and the wife, we're gonna try to do this
Speaker 2: year in Hamilton do the ghost walk and stuff.
Speaker 5: And uh, I always want to do that stuff.
Speaker 2: But either I have a couple of friends that are
Speaker 2: close there with that Christians, they don't want to involve
Speaker 2: them stuff that stuff, and so it is hard to
Speaker 2: my buddy Billy that I do the show.
Speaker 5: It would be so skeptical about it.
Speaker 2: That's why it would be entertaining, because it's like he's
Speaker 2: always like no, no, until like something scratches his neck
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get that. Yeah. So yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: kind of like a mixture of a mixture of things.
Speaker 4: But mostly mostly we reach out to places. Occasionally I'll
Speaker 4: have someone slide into my dmsb like I have a
Speaker 4: haunted place. We actually have When is this coming out?
Speaker 2: Probably a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: I had a strip club that's haunted slide into my DMS.
Speaker 4: Sounds weird.
Speaker 5: Sliding into your DMS. Hey, can I get it right?
Speaker 4: Honestly? But it's in like this old haunted mansion in Guelph,
Speaker 4: and so they were like, do you want to come
Speaker 4: through for like a walk through? I was like, can
Speaker 4: I bring my team for an investigation? They're like, yeah, wow,
Speaker 4: that's so cool.
Speaker 5: Man and ghost strippers would be awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's coming, that's coming this weekend.
Speaker 5: Actually, that's so funny. I made a joke.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is really or not, but
Speaker 2: I swear that a ghosts molested me when I was
Speaker 2: a kids. We're using the Ouiji board and and so
Speaker 2: we called upon who we thought was Emily Rose right
Speaker 2: from the actressist film. Comes to find out she's not
Speaker 2: a real person, and she the woman claimed to be
Speaker 2: a woman from Brampton. Brampton is not a Canadian place
Speaker 2: anymore in my opinion. So and it was it was
Speaker 2: this woman that supposed to be died, this young girl.
Speaker 2: And then she always told me, like on the Weig Boys,
Speaker 2: she was attracted to me and all this weird stuff.
Speaker 2: And I was a little boy. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: the hell was he was saying, was there a subconscious
Speaker 2: was it me wanting this or some strange thing? And then, uh,
Speaker 2: that is so weird. I remember going to sleep the
Speaker 2: one day I just told this story and then I
Speaker 2: wake up my boxes like across the room or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then we're using the weed boy the next day,
Speaker 2: and all my friends and I swear, I like I
Speaker 2: slept with them on And then it told me that
Speaker 2: the two female spirits that inhabit the house took advantage
Speaker 2: of me. It's giving, Yeah, I know, and and God
Speaker 2: knows what, because like when I was younger, I didn't
Speaker 2: know what the hell was going on. I used to
Speaker 2: like imagine and this is why you don't know what
Speaker 2: you're invoking. I keep using that weird but like what
Speaker 2: you're pulling out from the because I used to be
Speaker 2: like I used to hear the like. I don't think
Speaker 2: that all of our thoughts are our thoughts. I think
Speaker 2: that our thoughts some thoughts could just be dropped in there.
Speaker 2: And that's the scariest thing about that way our reality works.
Speaker 2: And how I believe that just because it's something you
Speaker 2: knock on, it doesn't mean it's physical. Doesn't mean it's
Speaker 2: table at my laptop, so it's physical. Doesn't mean this
Speaker 2: glass is physical because molecules are just slowed down to
Speaker 2: a point where it becomes physical right, And I always
Speaker 2: told this to people that you see ten percent of reality,
Speaker 2: that's it, maybe even less so am I And I
Speaker 2: remember being like, oh, I'm gonna hold your hand. Hear
Speaker 2: that in my head and then my hand would tingle,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know if my brain was
Speaker 2: doing that put like making this am you know? But
Speaker 2: I'm pretty honest on the show about my experiences and
Speaker 2: what things I've went through, because I think it's more
Speaker 2: genuine and real to be like that rather than play
Speaker 2: something that you're not. So I've had weird stuff like
Speaker 2: that where I'm like, I don't know if it was
Speaker 2: just me making this up because you know, I wanted
Speaker 2: that to be the case, or but it was creepy.
Speaker 2: And I remember being like creeped out and thinking that
Speaker 2: there was these and they told me their names and
Speaker 2: all sorts of shit, and I was.
Speaker 4: Like, that's having me lean towards that that was legit,
Speaker 4: like because like weird, Yeah, that's a that's a strange
Speaker 4: thing to be so young into placebo into your head was.
Speaker 5: Like twelve, or it's very weird.
Speaker 2: We had I should tell you this, you would find
Speaker 2: it funny for like is uh is what we used
Speaker 2: to start. We used to call people that we we
Speaker 2: knew were dead or whatever, right like Tupac And I
Speaker 2: remember like a light blue out and I think that
Speaker 2: Tupac might be in Cuba. Who knows. Actually have a
Speaker 2: whole episode ready to go about that idea of him
Speaker 2: faking his death. Yeah, but uh And we called things
Speaker 2: like people like Harold Tudini. And I remember calling Harold
Speaker 2: Tudini and he would tell us jokes, and there was
Speaker 2: there was like five of us, and and we used
Speaker 2: to come home. We used to come from school because
Speaker 2: I was close to the school at lunch and use
Speaker 2: the WEIEDI board. We were in grade six and seven.
Speaker 2: Uh So it's very how how much we got into
Speaker 2: using it was very weird, and it does become obsessive
Speaker 2: where my aunt that like did it when she was
Speaker 2: in Jamaica said she couldn't each, couldn't sleep, all that
Speaker 2: type of stuff, and so he would tell us jokes.
Speaker 5: And the one I remember is we were all very emo.
Speaker 2: I was very punk at one point and then it
Speaker 2: reverted into the emo phase of like I had and
Speaker 2: people don't believe me, but we're going to do it.
Speaker 2: On Patreon eventually I had like pink hair over my eyes,
Speaker 2: like streaks of pink black. I was very into that vibe.
Speaker 2: I was a screamer in a metal band before I
Speaker 2: started doing music and hip hop, and yeah, it was
Speaker 2: it was a different time, and that was a rebellious thing.
Speaker 2: It wasn't this thing of like what people see it
Speaker 2: nowadays of I'm not going to get into that, but
Speaker 2: that it was more of a rebellious thing to do
Speaker 2: with the music. And I got suspended for wearing eye
Speaker 2: makeup stuff like that, like, yeah, pretty I've had. I
Speaker 2: lived a pretty wild life for literally they suspended me
Speaker 2: for multiple weeks. And my dad had made a joke
Speaker 2: where he's like, what if our religion was we're clowns
Speaker 2: and we'd like to wear makeup, And are you gonna, like,
Speaker 2: you know, kick him out for that?
Speaker 5: And then so so like eventually I lost my train
Speaker 5: of thought.
Speaker 2: But I kind of I have always been into this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and it is straight, Oh what joke
Speaker 2: he told? So then we're all punk and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: And I used to wear like riped shirts and zippers
Speaker 2: in the pants, all sorts of dumb shit. And then
Speaker 2: so the joke that I'll never forget, and it's so dumb,
Speaker 2: But I don't know how any of us could have
Speaker 2: like thought of this was how did the chicken cross
Speaker 2: the road? It was staple to the chicken? Or that
Speaker 2: how did the punk cross the road? It was staple
Speaker 2: to the chicken. So a very dumb joke, a very weird,
Speaker 2: dumb joke. But because punks used to have like zippers
Speaker 2: in their like zippers in their pants, and like safety
Speaker 2: pins and their lips all sorts of stuff like that,
Speaker 2: that I don't know how any of us at that
Speaker 2: age could have thought of that or they was so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: That is that weird?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like even you like leading up to that, I
Speaker 4: was like trying to think of like where that Joe
Speaker 4: could have went, did not guess that it was.
Speaker 2: So it was so dumb, so dumb that it was
Speaker 2: almost like whatever this spirit was was like, uh, like
Speaker 2: kind of trolling us before that even term came into existence.
Speaker 2: It was like trolling us. And I think that that
Speaker 2: that happens more often than people want to maybe acknowledge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, So then.
Speaker 2: You guys got in the paranormal investigating, so I like
Speaker 2: telling the at least so you understand kind of at
Speaker 2: least who I am, even though the fans already know.
Speaker 2: I want you to kind of grasp how Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: a kookie guy, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: I'm a strange guys, why.
Speaker 4: Do the show soul?
Speaker 2: So once you guys got started, do you remember like
Speaker 2: a significant place that you went to when you guys
Speaker 2: kind of first started really getting into this, because obviously,
Speaker 2: like you don't know each other at the beginning, and
Speaker 2: you have to obviously develop this kind of chemistry after
Speaker 2: a while, right.
Speaker 4: Mm hm, well the first Okay, actually I should backtrack
Speaker 4: to slightly. So when we first started our team, so,
Speaker 4: like I mentioned, it was Rafe. It was his idea
Speaker 4: and basically because this happened shortly, like at the beginning
Speaker 4: of the year of twenty twenty two, and so when
Speaker 4: Raife had reached out to me, it was like March
Speaker 4: April ish and for the past few months he had
Speaker 4: been trying to get a hold of me, but that
Speaker 4: Christmas that had just passed, his wife had gotten him
Speaker 4: like a camera, some ghost hunting equipment, and like I
Speaker 4: think it was like a YouTube for dummies book or
Speaker 4: something like that, and it was like go because she
Speaker 4: kept talking about it and she was like sick of it.
Speaker 4: She's like, go do it, start it. So that started,
Speaker 4: and he was also friends with I don't know if
Speaker 4: you've heard of James White, but he does seances here
Speaker 4: in Toronto. Yeah, he does, like these authentic Victorian seances
Speaker 4: in different locations. This year will be his eighth year
Speaker 4: in a row, and so he they got to know him.
Speaker 4: So he was actually an original member of our team too,
Speaker 4: but he had to step back because he was dealing
Speaker 4: with some personal stuff on the side. But our team
Speaker 4: was originally the four of us. So our first two investigations,
Speaker 4: the one at their house and then the army camp,
Speaker 4: were with the four of us, and then we were
Speaker 4: supposed to go to the back house in Penn teng Machine,
Speaker 4: which is like this haunted airbnb that you can rent out.
Speaker 4: We're actually going back this weekend as well.
Speaker 5: No, it's so it's very funny.
Speaker 2: The Pennett hopefully and I can't even pronounce that. So
Speaker 2: we I just released a frog You from the Vault episode,
Speaker 2: which I'll release like older episodes. You talked about this
Speaker 2: serial killer, uh, this kid in serial killer that killed
Speaker 2: that couldn't be cured, and I just released it last night,
Speaker 2: as like I sometimes released old episode, especially for a
Speaker 2: video on Rumble, Uh so people can catch it and stuff,
Speaker 2: and uh, I couldn't pronounce it. And I was just
Speaker 2: watching it last night because it was like live or whatever,
Speaker 2: and me and my buddy I was like, can you
Speaker 2: pronounce this for me? And I couldn't do it.
Speaker 5: That's so weird, weird synchronicities.
Speaker 4: When we first started, Yeah, that's it. When we first
Speaker 4: went there, I could not pronounce it for the life
Speaker 4: of me either. I kept calling a Penguin shine.
Speaker 5: Machine of machine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big fancy word. But you can rent
Speaker 4: out the apartment three O two Now both rooms on
Speaker 4: the top are completely rentable, so we rent out the
Speaker 4: entire top floor.
Speaker 5: The rest is pretty expensive.
Speaker 4: I think. I think it's pretty standard for like an
Speaker 4: Airbnb apartment. I mean, when you rent out both, then
Speaker 4: obviously you're paying like two different rents. But if you
Speaker 4: just get the one, I think it's probably like maybe
Speaker 4: like three hundred bucks a month or not months or
Speaker 4: a day. But then the other floors have different tenants.
Speaker 4: So the owner lives in the house on like the
Speaker 4: main floor, and then there's some tenants that live on
Speaker 4: the second floor. So when we that was our first,
Speaker 4: like our first investigation overnight and it was our third
Speaker 4: investigation like total. At this point, we had lost James
Speaker 4: because he had to do his thing, and my husband
Speaker 4: actually stepped in for a couple investigations, so he came
Speaker 4: along with us to that one, and so it was
Speaker 4: interesting to like, you know, we were just getting to
Speaker 4: know each other still and now we're like in this
Speaker 4: fonted house for the night and we're experiencing all these
Speaker 4: things and.
Speaker 2: That's a weird thing to do with people that you
Speaker 2: may not know that well, yeah, it's kind of like
Speaker 2: a personal thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it like it it flowed really well, and
Speaker 4: I know the rest.
Speaker 2: Was history, and it kind of goes back to when.
Speaker 4: We first like when I first did the video call
Speaker 4: with them and like, which is not something I would
Speaker 4: normally do because I've had a lot of people reach
Speaker 4: out to me and be like, hey, do you want
Speaker 4: to I can go go something with you, even before
Speaker 4: I met my team, and there's just so many people
Speaker 4: it's like how do you keep track of it all?
Speaker 4: And you can't go with every single person. So it
Speaker 4: was just when when that happened and then when we
Speaker 4: actually formed the team, it was just something that was
Speaker 4: like okay, like this team was meant to come together
Speaker 4: for something.
Speaker 5: It's like fate, Like I said, everything for a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some there's something about that of connecting and
Speaker 2: and the ether kind of pointing you in the right direction.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we always say just because like of how like
Speaker 4: we get along even though their their husband and wife,
Speaker 4: I'm like their little sister. So it's like an interesting
Speaker 4: dynamic that way.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Like I don't know if I could
Speaker 2: ever come join you guys, and you guys around this area,
Speaker 2: that's why. The craziest thing and like we can jump
Speaker 2: around to different topics or whatever is I saw that
Speaker 2: you guys were doing the Arlington and that's cool because
Speaker 2: like I grew up somewhat in Paris a little bit,
Speaker 2: and uh my mom was originally from Toronto, and then
Speaker 2: we kind of moved to a small town for a bit.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of wild because even me and the
Speaker 2: wife stayed there in the honeymoon, sweet or whatever it
Speaker 2: was after the wedding.
Speaker 5: Somebody got it for us and.
Speaker 2: It's it's a creepy building and and actually like know
Speaker 2: there's there's a one of the women that work at
Speaker 2: the front desk. I grew up with her and yeah,
Speaker 2: so it was kind of and she hadn't seen me
Speaker 2: a long time and we're like, I'm like a drunken
Speaker 2: shit walking in like my shirts up button. They were
Speaker 2: just like trying to get up to the room, and
Speaker 2: it was it was I could feel a vibe though
Speaker 2: it's such a it's an old definitely such an old location.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear a little bit about that
Speaker 2: before I asked you some more questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Arlington was actually a really interesting one. I forget
Speaker 4: how it came up, but obviously we booked that one
Speaker 4: just like we booked a hotel room. I remember Rafe
Speaker 4: had called the front desk and was like, we heard
Speaker 4: your places haunted. Can you give us your most haunted room?
Speaker 4: And she's like, the most haunted room is the Edgar
Speaker 4: Allen Post Suite. Ironically enough, I don't think he stayed there,
Speaker 4: but they So every room in Arlington is like decorated differently,
Speaker 4: I girl and both themed and in that room someone
Speaker 4: had actually like died because they took their own life.
Speaker 4: They went down to like the home hardware down the street.
Speaker 5: Got what, Oh that's crazy, man. That's like I used
Speaker 5: to man Paris.
Speaker 2: I grew up getting drunk and walking down that street
Speaker 2: and all sorts of crazy nonsense that we do when
Speaker 2: were kids because we had nothing else to do, break
Speaker 2: into old factories and stuff.
Speaker 5: That's wild, so fun.
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful hotel. Very it looks like.
Speaker 2: Haunted Paris has changed a lot since I was there.
Speaker 2: I bet I got to say wild. So that when
Speaker 2: you guys, what was the vibe like when you guys
Speaker 2: entered the room, Because the whole time you're there, like
Speaker 2: I don't know, I would be like like jittery, like
Speaker 2: kind of wanting to like really get it going.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was definitely some jittery feelings. This was one
Speaker 4: of our first investigations as well.
Speaker 5: And that's cool, just the.
Speaker 4: Three of us this time, and so again it's like
Speaker 4: we're still like, you know, getting to know each other.
Speaker 4: You know. Apparently I snore, so.
Speaker 2: Do you guys? You share the room while you sleep,
Speaker 2: does anyone stay awake to make sure nothing crazy is happening?
Speaker 4: So now we use sleep cams, so we have quite
Speaker 4: a few cameras, so we sleep with the cameras on
Speaker 4: us at this point.
Speaker 2: We didn't but yeah, because are you just starting and
Speaker 2: you're figuring it out right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If I was doing a ghost I don't know how
Speaker 2: I could sleep though, I'd be like wired, I'd have
Speaker 2: to like, I'm going to sleep in today so I
Speaker 2: can stay up all night.
Speaker 4: You know. It's so ironic. And if I'm sure my
Speaker 4: team will watch this and they'll probably be like, you
Speaker 4: better tell them, you better tell them. So I am.
Speaker 4: I love my sleep. I am the worst paranemal investigator
Speaker 4: for this reason. I do not like late nights. I
Speaker 4: like early investigations. Like I'm like, let's go to bed though,
Speaker 4: and like Reefe and Kelly are just like, hey, it's
Speaker 4: like four am, five am, like let's keep going. I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh my god. So they laugh. They just they always
Speaker 4: call me the worst investigator for that reason.
Speaker 2: There's uh so it's so fun because like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I saw somebody doing this where I'm like I would
Speaker 2: do drunk ghost hunting, and I guess there's already that
Speaker 2: there's somebody people on YouTube that are doing it.
Speaker 5: I just somebody told me about, oh they do this
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm like, just for fun because you feel like you're
Speaker 2: like you're more loose, and that's why I like, I
Speaker 2: drink on the show and stuff like that. And we
Speaker 2: don't do it as bad as we used to. We
Speaker 2: used to, like my coach used to beside me, or
Speaker 2: we do it in the basement where we started and
Speaker 2: we were drinking between the two of us, like wild stuff,
Speaker 2: talking about serial killers and all sorts of weird things.
Speaker 2: And I always I'm an advocate for magic mushrooms. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you probably have. Have you ever tried them?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 5: Never, So, Yeah, they're very good for your.
Speaker 2: Brain and uh and and lots of there's lots of
Speaker 2: different things that can help you with trauma. They can
Speaker 2: actually regrow brain cells. There's all sorts of things that
Speaker 2: they have the ability to do if people can handle them.
Speaker 2: And if you have a bad trip, it's most likely
Speaker 2: because you're not allowing them to do their thing.
Speaker 5: It's not a party drug.
Speaker 2: Even though I've used them while I've watched horror movies
Speaker 2: outside my projector. I watched America Warolf from London on
Speaker 2: like five grams of mushrooms and it was a riot,
Speaker 2: But I felt like I had a dome around me.
Speaker 2: I felt like there was things around me. It's because
Speaker 2: you're tapping in. Yeah, you're tapping into a different realm
Speaker 2: of reality.
Speaker 5: So I joked to my buddies.
Speaker 2: I was like, I would love to do mushrooms on
Speaker 2: a ghost hunt and then have two other people or
Speaker 2: something to be sober and then I see if I
Speaker 2: see something and starting to pick up on siying do
Speaker 2: they also because you're technically tapping into a different reality,
Speaker 2: I've closed my eyes like a thousand eyes.
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Speaker 2: HS staring back at you. I've looked through what they
Speaker 2: call fractals, so they look like translucent objects. Some of
Speaker 2: them even look like travel patterns where you're just like
Speaker 2: like sitting there hanging out and you'll see like these
Speaker 2: almost like I always joke about, it's like a like
Speaker 2: the Harry Potter cloak in the movie where you just
Speaker 2: kind of see the outline of him, and there's things
Speaker 2: like that that you end up seeing. I've stared through
Speaker 2: the fractals and seen what I thought would be like
Speaker 2: demonic beings essentially telling him to get away. So there's
Speaker 2: weird things that your brain because you're you're you're existing
Speaker 2: in a different reality. There's a pretty big show called
Speaker 2: Forbidden Knowledge News. I had Chris on recently. I've been
Speaker 2: on the show a couple of times, and he did
Speaker 2: mushrooms and he swore uh. And one of the experiences
Speaker 2: he had a girlfriend at the time. I did practice
Speaker 2: reiki and did healing. He swore he saw her shape
Speaker 2: shift into a reptilian and then he started puking up
Speaker 2: black stuff in his bathtub. And I'm like, how, like,
Speaker 2: were you aware? Because I've done them numerous times, I
Speaker 2: know it's like you are conscious, and it's crazy. You
Speaker 2: can drink a bunch and uh, not all mushrooms, but
Speaker 2: you can drink a bun of alcohol. You won't remember it.
Speaker 2: If you do big trips of mushrooms, you'll carry that
Speaker 2: on those memories for a while. Some people won't, some
Speaker 2: people will, but it's very your mind is very clear.
Speaker 2: Of the things that after you feel incredible. I've always
Speaker 2: stated it's very healthy for people, but people need to
Speaker 2: know how to use them. But there's experiences that people
Speaker 2: have had where they've tapped in kind of like knocked
Speaker 2: at the door of some of these different realities. Oh interesting,
Speaker 2: So I would love to do like a ghost hunt
Speaker 2: while I'm like trip and balls, just be like, I'll
Speaker 2: come with you, guys, and I'll true like three grams
Speaker 2: of mushrooms and I'll be like some sort of psychic medium.
Speaker 5: But like, I see this.
Speaker 4: It's actually funny that you say that we mostly like
Speaker 4: will we'll indulge in like a spirit with spirits like
Speaker 4: before an investigation or like at the end of one,
Speaker 4: depending on what the investigation is or if we have time,
Speaker 4: but we typically go in like completely sober.
Speaker 5: Because I have to. I just feel like that you
Speaker 5: kind of need to.
Speaker 4: Write, yeah, just because like specifically, our biggest fear is
Speaker 4: like when when you drink, specifically drinking, you're more susceptible
Speaker 4: to like attachments. So you believe in like the demonic forces,
Speaker 4: like the eviler, things will be like they're a little
Speaker 4: bit done right now. Let me you know.
Speaker 2: That's why they're called spirits. So out alcohol comes from
Speaker 2: the word alcol which means body eating spirit. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's an ancient Arabic word. So it is interesting. And
Speaker 2: as much as I indulge and I like it, I
Speaker 2: think that and I've always thought this too, because I've
Speaker 2: drank throughout my life since I was young, is you're
Speaker 2: able to just the same way as you can do
Speaker 2: with other substances, You're able to tap into things. That's
Speaker 2: why they call it spirits because you can connect. I
Speaker 2: believe to spirits. I think a lot of more demonic
Speaker 2: things happen, like if you're aware of like what Bohemium
Speaker 2: grove is and some of those weird rituals that the
Speaker 2: elites do. Is they're able to kind of tap in,
Speaker 2: and I think they use things like alcoholic stuff to
Speaker 2: do so I think there's a way to kind of
Speaker 2: protect yourself to some extent. But I do believe I've
Speaker 2: seen people that are the nicest people in the world,
Speaker 2: but when they drink alcohol, they become like a demonic being.
Speaker 2: So things can attach themselves to you. And when I
Speaker 2: used a weigi board one time with my step brother,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't work unless I touched it. It's my Weiji
Speaker 2: board maybe that's why or what ever. And I don't
Speaker 2: fake shit, I'm not. I'm pretty genuine. I'll just touch
Speaker 2: it whatever, see what happens. That's sud a weird, Uh,
Speaker 2: but I I know. And then it told me that
Speaker 2: I had nine spirits attached to me, that some were
Speaker 2: good and some were bad. Who knows how many are
Speaker 2: attached to me now? But uh, if you're not aware
Speaker 2: of this guy named David Ike, Uh, he's a very
Speaker 2: well known researcher. He's the one that brought to the
Speaker 2: reptilian idea to like he talks about how he talked
Speaker 2: to psychics where it's like there's an attachment on their
Speaker 2: back and psychics will see these things floating above people.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a good vibe for me. You have
Speaker 2: a you have good energy. And I I like these
Speaker 2: because it's it's nice to talk to someone that kind
Speaker 2: of gets my realm of thinking.
Speaker 4: I get it. I trust me I And it's you
Speaker 4: can just you can tell when conversation flows the way
Speaker 4: that it does because it's been like an hour now
Speaker 4: and like it does not feel like it. But I
Speaker 4: like how you said that you don't fake shit. We
Speaker 4: are one hundred percent the same way. That was actually
Speaker 4: the first thing before we even step foot onto investigation floor.
Speaker 4: We're just like, we are never going to fake anything
Speaker 4: because even though we post our content, right, but we're
Speaker 4: paranallem me YouTubers if you will. We don't have very
Speaker 4: many subscribers, but we're still that's what we do build up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, YouTube, weird rumble, okay rumble is a nonsensored platform.
Speaker 2: It's actually really it's better that YouTube is shadow band,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Yeah, they suck. I think YouTube terrible platform,
Speaker 2: but you got to put yourself out there.
Speaker 4: Right And even like aside from that, we also like
Speaker 4: put our clips and stuff on TikTok and Instagram and
Speaker 4: all that stuff, and something that we get whenever we
Speaker 4: share any kind of whether it's an investigation and it
Speaker 4: gets maybe a little more attraction, or we're sharing clips
Speaker 4: onto our team social media or my social media, whatever
Speaker 4: the case may be, there's always if the if it
Speaker 4: gets enough traction, it will have people commenting conspiracizing how
Speaker 4: we fake something like how this Yeah, and it's always
Speaker 4: gonna come.
Speaker 2: It's gonna come. It's gonna Everyone wants to think that
Speaker 2: they're the smartest person in the room when they're most
Speaker 2: likely the dumbest.
Speaker 4: And it's also unfortunate because there are so many paranorm
Speaker 4: paranormal YouTuber's big ones fake stuff all the time, and
Speaker 4: it's ruined it for the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Look exact begets I'll go to demonic possession. I'm possessed
Speaker 2: like he does this all the time. And it's what
Speaker 2: bothers me is is like I I believe Aaron more
Speaker 2: than some of the other ones. Uh, what's the other
Speaker 2: guy that left? I actually really liked, Yeah he did.
Speaker 2: I actually really liked his show with what's the what's
Speaker 2: the chick's name that did the show with uh Ozzie's sun?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Jack Osborne is that show? I can't remember
Speaker 2: hearing someone I know, I didn't her on a podcast.
Speaker 5: I could. I should try, I should try to get
Speaker 5: in content.
Speaker 2: But Jack Osborne and that stuff, I think it was
Speaker 2: kind of cool he did. He did alien stuff and bigfoots.
Speaker 2: I think he's bringing it more to uh the forefront
Speaker 2: more than some of the Ghost Adventures did, and they
Speaker 2: help do that. But what bugs me about Zach begans
Speaker 2: and and me and the wife talk about all the
Speaker 2: time we've watched it, like it makes me want to
Speaker 2: watch it again just because it is goofy. It's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he'll be like pleasure, that's what it is. He's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I feel something. I feel angry at you.
Speaker 2: And he's like being like it's so weird. Like how
Speaker 2: he like comes across is like I'm so angry and
Speaker 2: he's like he's looking around.
Speaker 5: He looks fake. Man, it you're acting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 5: It's disingenuous, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it comes across like that too. It's just it's
Speaker 4: ruined it for anyone who wants to share things online. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's I still do like to watch it occasionally,
Speaker 4: but it's just like a fun show to watch. But
Speaker 4: it's just like, man, everything's everything's ruined for like legitimacy now,
Speaker 4: because you can have like the most solid piece of evidence,
Speaker 4: some people are going to be like there was this.
Speaker 4: We actually recently we went to the Cornwall in Cornwall, Ontario,
Speaker 4: there's the historic SDG jail and we went there to
Speaker 4: investigate it. I was in the back of this tunnel
Speaker 4: by myself and the rest of the team like Grave
Speaker 4: had gone like live on TikTok. He was like in
Speaker 4: the kitchen. And then James, James actually came back for
Speaker 4: this investigation and he and him and Kelly were like
Speaker 4: on the opposit side of the basement than me, doing
Speaker 4: like a separate investigation. And all of a sudden, I
Speaker 4: hear like footsteps around the corner. I'm like using this
Speaker 4: portal device from Phantoms of yr that was like hosting
Speaker 4: giving us the tour of the place. They let us
Speaker 4: to use their portal. So I was listening to that,
Speaker 4: but it was really loud because it was like static
Speaker 4: but also sounds coming through. And I heard footsteps coming
Speaker 4: around the corner, and I was like, oh, someone like
Speaker 4: coming around the corner because it was clear. It was
Speaker 4: like it sounded like it was right around the corner me.
Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, I heard a voice. It
Speaker 4: said it sounded at the moment, in the moment like
Speaker 4: get out of here. After reviewing footage because it was
Speaker 4: caught on camera, it sounded more like yeah, I am,
Speaker 4: but some people have heard get out of here. It's
Speaker 4: interesting either way. It sounded exactly like Rafe, So I thought,
Speaker 4: and we have like a prank war going on, so
Speaker 4: because that's something we like to bring to our investigations too,
Speaker 4: is like humor and cracking jokes.
Speaker 2: And making light of it place you should probably bring.
Speaker 4: It, especially in scary places. But we're supposed to have
Speaker 4: prank wres off when investigations are happening. So I was
Speaker 4: like scared because I was like, he's gonna that was him.
Speaker 4: He's gonna come around the corner and like scare me
Speaker 4: and whatever. But I called out again. I was like,
Speaker 4: rafe is that you again? Sounded exactly like him, and
Speaker 4: it was silence, and then I started freaking out whatever.
Speaker 4: They came over and we found out that he was
Speaker 4: not even on the same floor as us and he
Speaker 4: had not said anything. So we had caught like a
Speaker 4: mimic essentially of Raith. We submitted that clip to Nuke's
Speaker 4: Top five if you know that YouTube channel.
Speaker 5: That's fine.
Speaker 4: They ended up sharing it and so we got a
Speaker 4: little bit of traction from there from that video that
Speaker 4: he that he shared.
Speaker 2: That's good in this field.
Speaker 4: And it like it was great, like he really hyped
Speaker 4: us off and everything like that. It's it was a great,
Speaker 4: great clip, great great episode that he did and but
Speaker 4: there was a lot of comments on there going in
Speaker 4: on me on either my good acting or my bad
Speaker 4: acting or like conspiracy all these ways they faked. Man,
Speaker 4: oh no, But it's just like it's funny to me that, like,
Speaker 4: you know, that that that was such a real experience
Speaker 4: and an authentic experience, and now people share.
Speaker 2: On it people that never experienced this stuff and have
Speaker 2: never have never had some sort of ghost experience and
Speaker 2: think that this reality is somehow physical and all that
Speaker 2: stuff I've seen. It's's it's it's a it's a mentality, right,
Speaker 2: It's it's there's a lot of people in this world
Speaker 2: that are like you know, people call them sheep or
Speaker 2: whatever they want call but like people don't understand. They
Speaker 2: want to only live through their own experiences, and most
Speaker 2: of them are and people call them NPCs where they
Speaker 2: walk around life and they're just kind of robotic and
Speaker 2: do whatever they're told and think whatever they're told to
Speaker 2: and never choose to question the reality that we exist in.
Speaker 2: I've already proven to myself, like I said this out
Speaker 2: a recent episode, that that that there is lower vibrational
Speaker 2: entities and things that exist. I've already proven this to
Speaker 2: myself I don't need to prove to anybody else, and
Speaker 2: the same I'm I'm I'm very I try not to
Speaker 2: bring to the show. It's happened numerous times lately. But uh,
Speaker 2: my political aspect of things and stuff. People may not
Speaker 2: believe or think what I think politically, but I've taken
Speaker 2: the time to research and read, and I have a
Speaker 2: whole library of books beside me, Like, I try to
Speaker 2: educate myself on things that most people dare not to
Speaker 2: even question. So you see that where people always want
Speaker 2: to go, well, actually become the I'm actually people where
Speaker 2: it's like it's like you don't know anything, You're not
Speaker 2: what assure YouTube, there's a I mentioned this reason. There's
Speaker 2: a rapper that his first album, Apathy is his name.
Speaker 2: His album was Where's Your Album? So I made a
Speaker 2: joke because on the recent horror podcast I've done that
Speaker 2: we did the part two of.
Speaker 5: The Thirteenth franchise.
Speaker 2: We did like five, six, seven and eight or whatever,
Speaker 2: and uh, I dressed like I was an eighties guy,
Speaker 2: like I was in the eighties, and I made jokes
Speaker 2: about it, and one guy in the comments on YouTube
Speaker 2: was like, and it got a lot of views. It
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I don't like how this guy doesn't
Speaker 2: take things seriously and stuff like that. Right, So I know,
Speaker 2: so I on that we did Jason X and so
Speaker 2: I dressed up in like a suit and then wore
Speaker 2: like I have like dahmerglasses. They're fucking over there somewhere
Speaker 2: rapper like my dahmerglasses on. And I was like, so
Speaker 2: I heard that, you know, talking about a guy with
Speaker 2: a with a hockey match that kills people in comical
Speaker 2: ways is very serious.
Speaker 5: I was like, do I look serious to you?
Speaker 2: And my coast is like, you look pretty serious, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's a very serious topic. And
Speaker 2: it's just like these people. I'm like, where's your podcast?
Speaker 2: You know, where's your thing that you're contributing to the
Speaker 2: world or using your own creative energy to do so.
Speaker 2: So never let those people get you down, because they're
Speaker 2: just faceless trolls in the Internet being like, wow, this
Speaker 2: is what I think. Nobody cares what you think because
Speaker 2: you don't have anything any platform.
Speaker 4: You know, so true, it's actually crazy. Nobody cares what
Speaker 4: you think.
Speaker 5: It's so true?
Speaker 2: All right, right, I have I've had thousands of people
Speaker 2: share my videos of me just giving you a minute
Speaker 2: and a half idea of what I think about the government.
Speaker 2: So realistically, I've too many times I'm like, my face
Speaker 2: is fucking everywhere and it kind of scares me. But
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring quickly back, was there anything crazy
Speaker 2: that you guys caught the Arlington? Just because I grew
Speaker 2: up there, I wanted to like, remember.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: We we caught our first Poulter guy st activity Cool.
Speaker 4: I've come to realize that a lot of people have
Speaker 4: different opinions on what Poultergeist are. What we kind of
Speaker 4: think Poltergece are. I mean, who knows, because.
Speaker 2: It's it's a more level and violent yeah spirit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what that's what we came to kind
Speaker 4: of believe, and that's kind of where we're at with Poulter.
Speaker 4: But we were in the basement and well, I mean,
Speaker 4: first of all, well the Mason it's really creepy. It's
Speaker 4: like a little seller thing.
Speaker 5: But you go down there and investigate and cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she the hotel. She's a receptionist. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: what else she does. I think she has other managerial managerial.
Speaker 10: No, okay, brown hair maybe grew up with I think
Speaker 10: her name is Katie.
Speaker 5: The one I know is christ.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, weird coincidences actually might not have been kiddy
Speaker 4: either way. She came down to the basement with us
Speaker 4: and she was kind of just observing. I think she
Speaker 4: did leave at one point for a little bit, but
Speaker 4: came back down because she wanted to kind of see
Speaker 4: what was going on to and well, at one point
Speaker 4: we heard we were doing I can't remember what, I
Speaker 4: have to go back, it's on camera, but that we
Speaker 4: heard a whistle and where all of us like turned
Speaker 4: and looked at the same time. We're like, did you
Speaker 4: hear the whistle? Like we're just like finishing each other's sentences.
Speaker 4: It was so clear, like there was no one around. Again,
Speaker 4: we're in the basement and it was like right around
Speaker 4: the corner and all of us were accounted for. So
Speaker 4: that was kind of crazy. But the poltergeist activity was
Speaker 4: Raith and I were doing a spearbox session and Kelly
Speaker 4: kind of she likes to gander off. She's like the
Speaker 4: skeptic among us. She kind of keeps us level headed
Speaker 4: sometimes because we kind of we like to our imagination
Speaker 4: sometimes gets the best of us. We need her to
Speaker 4: like real listen. But she and gallivanted off and she
Speaker 4: went into like this back room in the cellar, and
Speaker 4: she had brought a cap ball with her. Recolored the
Speaker 4: catball whisper because she always gets it to go off,
Speaker 4: So she put it.
Speaker 5: On that capball.
Speaker 2: Is that the one that it admits noises when something's
Speaker 2: around it or.
Speaker 4: No, it's it's no noise, just light. So it's literally
Speaker 4: a capball. You can buy them on Amazon. They're like clear,
Speaker 4: and then there's a button and when you press it,
Speaker 4: it is on. But in order to make the lights
Speaker 4: actually go off, you have to touch it. So you
Speaker 4: put the ball somewhere and then you ask questions and
Speaker 4: then if it goes off.
Speaker 2: It's what you have in your environment, right, because you're
Speaker 2: gonna use all sorts of things your paranormal investigations.
Speaker 5: That's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So she brought that into the back room. She
Speaker 4: put it on a chair, and she's filming it and
Speaker 4: she didn't realize this at the time. She was talking
Speaker 4: to something trying to get it to light off. Light
Speaker 4: up the ball and it worked, but she was replaying
Speaker 4: it and she comes over to us and she's like,
Speaker 4: the capital moved, like you can physically see it move.
Speaker 4: So We're like, Okay, that must belious because it moved
Speaker 4: it Like I don't know, but either way, that's that
Speaker 4: was like the craziest thing that happened at that place.
Speaker 4: So we got that on camera too, just cool not
Speaker 4: only responding to her but moving.
Speaker 2: It's it's so funny because like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was when I saw your clip of that, because
Speaker 2: that's when I was like, I don't and I don't
Speaker 2: even know. It must have been on Instagram or whatever.
Speaker 2: There's something where I was like I caught that you
Speaker 2: were there. I saw the picture and I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: that's cool. That's cool, like that you're investigating stuff around
Speaker 2: my area, right, and uh. And then and then when
Speaker 2: we went there the wedding was definitely after I saw
Speaker 2: that clip and I said like, you know.
Speaker 5: We're obviously we came back.
Speaker 2: We were wasted, right, and I'm drinking more when I
Speaker 2: go there, but the room just felt weird and you
Speaker 2: could look on the sidewalk and I've seen them my
Speaker 2: whole life, right and then and then just to see
Speaker 2: someone investigated, I was like I want to do that, right,
Speaker 2: And I was looking beforehand before the wedding about what
Speaker 2: if I could rent it out, and that was like
Speaker 2: seeing my body would want to do it, and then
Speaker 2: it never ended up coming to fruition, but like it
Speaker 2: is a cool thing. I would love to do some
Speaker 2: of this stuff. There's a haunted barn and near Brantford
Speaker 2: that's supposed to be like somebody hung themselves at in
Speaker 2: the barn and people have had weird experiences there. Have you,
Speaker 2: that's a question. Have you ever checked out the Black
Speaker 2: don only place I've heard of it.
Speaker 4: I haven't been to the area, but I heard it's closed.
Speaker 2: That's rct sad. I don't know. We did a whole
Speaker 2: episode about the whole Black Dolly. It's it's a wild
Speaker 2: story Irish people coming over, which most Canadians are Irish, French, British, Scottish.
Speaker 5: That's where the that's where.
Speaker 2: We come from as Canadian people, and it's pretty crazy
Speaker 2: and they were like warring with everybody else and then
Speaker 2: they got burned down.
Speaker 5: All the people died inside the house.
Speaker 2: But I think the wife's sister said that she saw
Speaker 2: something there, like there's like weird, especially because especially there's
Speaker 2: there's residual energies that things that exist like Gettysburg where
Speaker 2: you hear gunshots, right that are just like imprinted into
Speaker 2: our reality.
Speaker 5: But then there's the intelligent ghost.
Speaker 2: That's why you have to kind of differentiate what is
Speaker 2: what is intelligent and which is what is just an
Speaker 2: imprint of trauma into the reality. Yeah, what what is
Speaker 2: what is the most compelling evidence you think? Or maybe
Speaker 2: even we can go we go different directions. Boys, what
Speaker 2: is your like favorite haunting that you've done, one of
Speaker 2: the ones that like, because you know what, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, that feeling you get where you're like, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Know exactly what you're talking about. And that's such a
Speaker 4: hard question.
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, that's a good are like something that's memorable?
Speaker 2: You know, so hard.
Speaker 4: There's so many. I'm going to go with a couple
Speaker 4: because I feel like I choose just one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to give you the platform telling me
Speaker 2: all your stif interesting.
Speaker 4: There was this one location that we went to and
Speaker 4: it just the feeling that it gave me, like as
Speaker 4: we were experiencing things, it was like it was a
Speaker 4: feeling that I had never felt before to this point.
Speaker 4: So we got the chance to investigate the Franklin House,
Speaker 4: which is in Mississauga. It's currently a bar. So we
Speaker 4: were let in there after hours, So we were there,
Speaker 4: you know, my favorite time of day. We started our
Speaker 4: investigation at two in the morning. But that means like
Speaker 4: everything else on the street, yeah, it's it's so historic,
Speaker 4: and but I mean on top of that, like it's
Speaker 4: streets feels like like kind of popular. It's obviously not
Speaker 4: like downtown miss Sauga or anything like that, but that
Speaker 4: particular street is like a bumping street normally. But obviously
Speaker 4: this is two in the morning, three in the morning,
Speaker 4: four in the morning. Yeah, it's much quieter. There's not
Speaker 4: a soul on the street. So we were investiga gating
Speaker 4: in numerous spots. But I just remember mostly when we
Speaker 4: were on the top floor, there was multiple instances where
Speaker 4: we heard like the loudest noise and we were we
Speaker 4: had one of the servers. I think she is what
Speaker 4: her position is, but she was there with us to
Speaker 4: let us in there, and she was with us like
Speaker 4: she did not There was a couple of times that
Speaker 4: she like had to step out because honestly, I think
Speaker 4: she was a little bit scared of it, which I understand,
Speaker 4: Like we said sure and everything afterwards, but there was
Speaker 4: sometimes what she had to step out and her mom.
Speaker 4: Her mom was there too, but for the most part,
Speaker 4: like when these instances were happening, they were both up
Speaker 4: there with us and they were like watching us conduct
Speaker 4: some different experiments. And we had this device in front
Speaker 4: of us. It's called a flex too. It's basically like
Speaker 4: this little prism and there's like a green side and
Speaker 4: a red side and then if you go to one
Speaker 4: side you can turn make for no. So we were
Speaker 4: doing that and honestly, it kind of hit or missed
Speaker 4: piece of equipment. But I digress. It's not that loud.
Speaker 4: It's not loud at all unless the light goes on.
Speaker 4: So we were sitting there trying to ask questions. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: So we were asking questions, trying to get it to
Speaker 4: use the device. It wasn't really doing anything. And all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, we're sitting there just kind of waiting
Speaker 4: for something to happen, and we heard this loud noise
Speaker 4: come from like downstairs. Like it was it was loud.
Speaker 4: The server who was there with us told us, that's
Speaker 4: a barstool downstairs, like shifting across the floor. But it
Speaker 4: was like the loudest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 4: I was like, that sounds like someone is downstairs moving
Speaker 4: chairs around. And it happened multiple times, and every time
Speaker 4: it like brought tears to my eyes because it was
Speaker 4: like it was.
Speaker 2: That loud energy, like you're like I feel it, man, yeah.
Speaker 4: And like that's that's kind of how I gauge when
Speaker 4: places are we when hunted. Places are that like not
Speaker 4: not real, but like the places that affect me the most,
Speaker 4: they bring that feeling to me. So that was one
Speaker 4: of them. Another one was also at another bar we
Speaker 4: investigated at like three in the morning and it was
Speaker 4: Barry and also caught some Poulter Geis activity not on camera,
Speaker 4: but we were. It was called the it's a different
Speaker 4: name now, but it was a Simco hotel, saloon and
Speaker 4: eatery and berry and it's we were doing a dowsing
Speaker 4: rod session. The cow bolls were going off and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, as we're like waiting for the dowsing
Speaker 4: rods to move, we hear this loud crash. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's it. Wear this loudsh It's like on like a corner.
Speaker 4: So it used to be a hotel, I think, and
Speaker 4: then now people live up there, but it's like not
Speaker 4: the best neighbors.
Speaker 5: I don't there is not a nice place anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of people die up there, and yeah,
Speaker 4: like overdose and stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, we were at the Hotel Seasil, right, obviously very famous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to investigate that one there.
Speaker 2: Me too, Man, I want to talk to Richard Ramirez.
Speaker 2: We just we just did two parts on him.
Speaker 4: Man that in the Alissa Lamb, Alisa Lamb.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, I feel like my Miley would love to
Speaker 2: recover that kind of thing. Yes, it's a wild story.
Speaker 2: This is a weird looking building there.
Speaker 4: I know it was crazy, but we were in there. Again,
Speaker 4: it's like, I mean, it's downtown Barry, so it can
Speaker 4: be a little bit scarier with like people in the street.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't loud at all because again it was
Speaker 4: like three four in the morning at this point and
Speaker 4: all of us were accounted for it. There's this big
Speaker 4: crash that happens and we follow it because it was
Speaker 4: like in the bathroom like right behind us, and there's
Speaker 4: it's like a soap dispenser. It had been flowed over
Speaker 4: the stall and like hit the stall few times and
Speaker 4: then hit the floor.
Speaker 5: Weird, What the fuck that's crazy.
Speaker 4: And that also gave me like the tears to my
Speaker 4: eyes kind of feeling.
Speaker 2: So like, that's what I like. People need to trust
Speaker 2: their own intuition and their own feelings.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: People can claim all your brain is pretty powerful, which
Speaker 2: it is, and it can be things, sure, but there
Speaker 2: is frequencies and things around us all the time, different realities,
Speaker 2: dimensions that are probably corresponding with me talking right now,
Speaker 2: all the time these things happen. I've seen proof of
Speaker 2: this numerous times in my life when it comes to
Speaker 2: mess around with the paranormal Ouiji boards and also mushrooms,
Speaker 2: that there's things outside of our reality that we'll never
Speaker 2: understand and that are tapping in and seeing what they
Speaker 2: can either push into our heads or influence us with.
Speaker 2: And who knows how much of what we think is
Speaker 2: our own thoughts. That's the scariest thing, right, And that's
Speaker 2: why I like, I love talking about this stuff. I
Speaker 2: love like and I've said this on the show right
Speaker 2: like that I've been into true crime and serial killers
Speaker 2: and all that sorts of stuff since I was very young.
Speaker 2: Guys always fascinated with people like Charles Manson and and
Speaker 2: and Richard Umire how do they become these people that
Speaker 2: we know of? But my first love has always been
Speaker 2: the paranormal, because that's what I feel like switches you
Speaker 2: on to that thought of raw reality isn't what we
Speaker 2: think it is. And then when you start to like
Speaker 2: split that atom of like, Okay, what else is going
Speaker 2: on in the world? What else energies are influencing our reality?
Speaker 2: How much are these people that obviously political shit, but
Speaker 2: how much are these people in power? How much are
Speaker 2: they influenced by some sort of demonic energy and that's
Speaker 2: influencing them? Right, So it's it's fascinating, it's pretty cool,
Speaker 2: Like I actually really do love this stuff. So I
Speaker 2: was gonna I had a spirit, but I still have
Speaker 2: the spirit. I have it somewhere around here, and I
Speaker 2: would like to use it again. Everything is out of
Speaker 2: batteries because I've you sen so long. But I remember
Speaker 2: when I first got it. I was living at home
Speaker 2: at my mom's house and and I was like, say
Speaker 2: my name, and then my mom was like, say my
Speaker 2: name same, Like she was like joking. I was telling
Speaker 2: her the story after it, but it said it said
Speaker 2: Thomas and in a very clear female voice, and I
Speaker 2: was like, can you say my name again.
Speaker 5: It was like Thomas in the exact same voice.
Speaker 2: And according to like, the spearbox is going about one
Speaker 2: hundred radio stations a second. Like it's pretty crazy. Most
Speaker 2: people don't even realize that. And there was no way
Speaker 2: that it could replicate twice exact same voice.
Speaker 5: And I got chills down my spine.
Speaker 2: And like I said, you kind of have to, like
Speaker 2: you have to take into account your own frequency in
Speaker 2: your own residency of like what you're capturing when you're
Speaker 2: walking around.
Speaker 5: We are all electrical beings.
Speaker 2: My wife recently got us a grounding matt and a sheet,
Speaker 2: so you know what those are.
Speaker 4: I think, So is that like for your like physical energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you plug it into the ground of the
Speaker 2: electrical socket. Uh. And it's the same thing as you
Speaker 2: do if you ever step by anyone out there. Go
Speaker 2: walk outside and do this more often and walk around
Speaker 2: and bare feet because your energy shifts with the ground
Speaker 2: being connected to the earth. The natives knew this, and
Speaker 2: there's ancient culled magic. They know this stuff that you're connected.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because when I'm on mushrooms, there's a
Speaker 2: tree in the backyard and it looks like it's fucking
Speaker 2: waving at me. So because you're eating something that is
Speaker 2: from the mycilium connects interconnects all of nature. It's the
Speaker 2: connective ways you can It's very intelligent. And there's theories
Speaker 2: that in scientific research that mushrooms actually talk to each
Speaker 2: other in the same in the same kind of vocabulary,
Speaker 2: almost in the same kind of way that we talk
Speaker 2: to each other, but just it's a different form. And
Speaker 2: so I swear that it's like it knows. Nature knows
Speaker 2: when you're on those states of mind because you were
Speaker 2: connected with nature, because you're eating the dead mushroom that
Speaker 2: existed through the mystilium network. It's fascinating shit. And I
Speaker 2: always fel like this tree is like like waving at
Speaker 2: me and stuff. So when you put your feet, on
Speaker 2: your bare feet onto the ground, you actually transfer energy
Speaker 2: from mother Nature, mother gaya, whatever people want to call it,
Speaker 2: and it comes into your own being. So these grounding
Speaker 2: matters are kind of supposed to be the same thing,
Speaker 2: and it helps your electric magnetive frequency. And i've i've
Speaker 2: i've slept better and we just got it on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: and last night I slept solid, had more energy and
Speaker 2: we spent the money to do it. I'm like, this
Speaker 2: better be a fucking real thing, and she said, I
Speaker 2: to do all the research. There's tons of like reviews
Speaker 2: and it's it's works. We have one where we can
Speaker 2: sit and watch TV. But I'm like, I'm using my
Speaker 2: laptop editing the show and I'm like, I fucking feel
Speaker 2: all these tingles. And then she's like reading it after,
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, you shouldn't have technology. I do it
Speaker 2: because it's going through your phone too, and I'm like, uh,
Speaker 2: that probably makes sense. I'm trying to do that, but
Speaker 2: I've I've slept, and it's interesting that you're I think
Speaker 2: people need to acknowledge the things that they feel. And
Speaker 2: I think that too many people, including myself because I
Speaker 2: have to keep the show going and I'm the one
Speaker 2: running everything is to like to social media and your phone,
Speaker 2: and it does a lot of people have been trapped
Speaker 2: in this stuff. All of us have, right and we
Speaker 2: need to remember our feelings. And that's why I want
Speaker 2: to talk about this stuff. It reminds me of when
Speaker 2: I was young. I didn't have a cell phone. I
Speaker 2: was sixteen, so like things are things are different than
Speaker 2: what they were, right, Yeah, It's been a cool conversation.
Speaker 2: I I could go on all day. So like, is
Speaker 2: there anything else you like, is there anything like, uh,
Speaker 2: what is the what is one of the scariest experiences
Speaker 2: that you've had doing this? Do you remember like something
Speaker 2: that really stands out to you or a couple things.
Speaker 4: So, I mean the the mimic experience from It's weird
Speaker 4: the STGJL like that was that was a time that
Speaker 4: I was truly afraid and we were supposed to do
Speaker 4: solo challenges and I don't know it was probably Reef's idea,
Speaker 4: but the idea was to where I was in that tunnel,
Speaker 4: there was like a spiral staircase that led up to
Speaker 4: the courthouse, and what we were supposed to do is
Speaker 4: handcuff ourselves to that stairwell while everyone else left. I
Speaker 4: was like I couldn't. After that experience, I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm tapping out of that, and they clowned me for it.
Speaker 4: But both Raef and Kelly did it, and you know,
Speaker 4: I mean rape kept turning the lights on and off,
Speaker 4: and Kelly actually did it in the dark. So there's that.
Speaker 4: But that was like a time that I was truly
Speaker 4: truly afraid, Like I couldn't. I couldn't do.
Speaker 2: People chomping and ship like, I fucking dare them, all
Speaker 2: these faceless people. I dare them to do stuff like this.
Speaker 2: I dare you, Yeah, go do it exactly.
Speaker 4: When you're in the dark yourself like handcuffed to something
Speaker 4: and you can't run, and everyone's gone three floors away,
Speaker 4: like it's you know, that's that's these things.
Speaker 2: I mean whatever is around, living or dead, because I
Speaker 2: think that there is entities that exist beyond this reality.
Speaker 5: They are physically still. And the kids.
Speaker 2: There's no way around it, right, realistically, they'll they can
Speaker 2: do whatever they want, right, So so funny the people
Speaker 2: that uh that claim these big tough guys, I bet
Speaker 2: the biggest muscle bound dude couldn't do half the stuff
Speaker 2: that you guys are doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. It's it's it sounds easy
Speaker 4: kind of in theory, but like when you're actually there,
Speaker 4: different story. Another place I was terrified was the bel
Speaker 4: Air House, which is in Ohio.
Speaker 5: Oh you guys went to the States. That's fucking cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah we really, yeahs of friends there is why.
Speaker 5: Too lazy to get my passport dealt with?
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bel Air House in Beller, Ohio.
Speaker 5: Sam Smith there, the scientist, we come.
Speaker 4: Making all those jokes. It's it was. It's said to
Speaker 4: be one of the most haunted in America. We have
Speaker 4: quite a few friends in this space that have other
Speaker 4: teams to one of our favorite teams to work with.
Speaker 4: We've done a couple of clubs with them is Paranormal
Speaker 4: XP and they've been to the Conjuring House.
Speaker 5: And the House Harris Harrisville House. That's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they said this place was worse than the Conjuring House.
Speaker 4: A lot of people think it's worse. It's it is something.
Speaker 4: There's like it's it's on a portal. There's many portals
Speaker 4: within the house. A lot of deaths have happened in
Speaker 4: the house. There's said to be a demonic little girl.
Speaker 4: There's like a spirit. No, like, there's there's a spirit
Speaker 4: named Emily. She walks around the perimeter of the house.
Speaker 4: But then there's Emily that comes in the form of
Speaker 4: a little girl in the house who pretends like she's
Speaker 4: the real Emily, but she's a demon. It's like very calmly. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, they're so scared. But yeah, so the bel
Speaker 4: Air House one of the most Haunted in the States.
Speaker 4: It was our first American location. We did it earlier
Speaker 4: this year. We stayed there for a night. We were
Speaker 4: so scared. So the basement is said to be like
Speaker 4: where the demonic thing lives. Also the attic too, but
Speaker 4: the demonic there's a lot. There's a few demonic things
Speaker 4: that happen in the basement. There's like a portal, portal
Speaker 4: number one in the basement, which is was a coal mine,
Speaker 4: and then there's another portal it's like a chair. Kelly
Speaker 4: is I mentioned I don't know if I mentioned yet
Speaker 4: about how she's a bad ass, but she's a badass
Speaker 4: and nothing scares her. Like she's the one who keeps
Speaker 4: us level and she goes.
Speaker 10: To logic but she does balls exactly and she like
Speaker 10: raife and I are I think we were filming something
Speaker 10: and all of a sudden we hear Kelly's voice from
Speaker 10: the basement.
Speaker 4: This is like maybe an hour into us being there.
Speaker 4: We hadn't gone into the basement yet. We hear Kelly
Speaker 4: go nope, nope, nope, come and right back at the stairs.
Speaker 4: Were like, you went into the basement by yourself. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I can do it, but I realized I couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: She it was the first time we'd ever seen her scared,
Speaker 4: and she was like when we did go later that
Speaker 4: night to the basement, she was like shaking. She did
Speaker 4: not want to be down there. It was actually like
Speaker 4: the first time I think in her life she's ever
Speaker 4: been scared.
Speaker 2: I live for that shit, get yeah, and with you guys,
Speaker 2: I will fucking I don't even care.
Speaker 4: And we slept on the couches were there's like at
Speaker 4: the whole house. We have the whole house to ourselves
Speaker 4: for the night. We slept on the couches.
Speaker 2: And did you have to pay a fee or did
Speaker 2: like obviously right, yeah for that house at least?
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you ran out the entire house.
Speaker 2: Well you're you guys are It's nice because you guys
Speaker 2: are all paying for this together, right, obviously the economy
Speaker 2: is fucked, but like, right, so that is I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I could probably talk to you for hours, man, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know we're going for like an hour and a
Speaker 4: half this point.
Speaker 5: We did four and a half hours on fucking Jeffrey Dahmer.
Speaker 2: So yeah, oh yeah. It was like where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I now I'm getting to the point where I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, we have to do two parts. We did
Speaker 2: two parts of rich Ramiers recently. It's out on video
Speaker 2: but not audio yet. And uh, but I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to be that podcast that
Speaker 2: is two parts. I want to I don't want to
Speaker 2: go full energy. And then we did you know, Jimmy
Speaker 2: Saville is no so Jimmy Saville is someone who is
Speaker 2: connected to the royal family that had a bunch of
Speaker 2: victims that he he was the first disc jockey, the
Speaker 2: first dj.
Speaker 5: And he he.
Speaker 2: He molested like four hundred people and the Queen knighted him.
Speaker 2: He was very connected to the royal family, which I
Speaker 2: believe are demonic entities.
Speaker 5: I believe this. I've seen enough proof.
Speaker 2: And so we did like four and a half hours,
Speaker 2: and like there was three of us at the time,
Speaker 2: a coast that is not on the show anymore. And uh,
Speaker 2: I was like gutting into the PI. I was like,
Speaker 2: he's a wizard, his cigar is a want here. Let
Speaker 2: me show you what this guy fucking looks like and
Speaker 2: you'll be like, wow, that guy looks like he eats children.
Speaker 2: He is a very scary looking guy. I would never
Speaker 2: want to come in contact with this guy's with this
Speaker 2: guy's ghost. He's one of the most frightening human beings
Speaker 2: to ever exist. In my opinion.
Speaker 4: Gosh, I'm scared.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: I think this is now the most scared I've ever been.
Speaker 2: Oh you will see. This guy is frightening and he's
Speaker 2: not even by the queen. Here is this creepy guy.
Speaker 2: Look at this guy wearing a free Mason necklace. Right here,
Speaker 2: here's my favorite. Look at that guy. You think that
Speaker 2: he's not possessed by some sort of demonic creatures. So
Speaker 2: he paid for essentially he built uh a silent not asylums,
Speaker 2: but hospitals and stuff for mentally handicapped kids. He helped
Speaker 2: fund this stuff, and he ended abusing them to abuse
Speaker 2: the children. Very scary looking dude. There's a show that
Speaker 2: was supposed to come out. This is a clip from
Speaker 2: the show. They didn't They didn't do it. Look at
Speaker 2: this guy. Tell me this guy. This guy's a normal guy, right.
Speaker 4: Is he dead?
Speaker 5: He's dead now?
Speaker 2: Yes? And when they buried him, they buried him at
Speaker 2: a forty five degree angle. That's a Masonic thing. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of weird things about this guy. So we
Speaker 2: did four and a half hours on him, and near
Speaker 2: the end, I was like, there's people that believe he's
Speaker 2: a magician and his wand is actually a cigar.
Speaker 5: Like, look at what this guy looks.
Speaker 2: He was the creep beyond creeps, one of the scariest people,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, to exist that we know of. He
Speaker 2: kind of looks like, oh yeah, old riff raff. So
Speaker 2: look at he's wearing some weird demonic. There's a there's
Speaker 2: a documentary on Netflix you can watch and it's called
Speaker 2: a British Horror Story. If you want to know even slightly,
Speaker 2: it's just only service level of how bad this guy is.
Speaker 2: That's a good place to start if you're interested by that.
Speaker 2: You're a chick into the paranormal. I'm sure you love
Speaker 2: true crime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know, I know all you.
Speaker 5: Guys are like that.
Speaker 2: My wife watches all like I'm like, like in them,
Speaker 2: especially on Saturday mornings, like researching stuff for the show
Speaker 2: or editing stuff or whatever, and she's watching I'm watching
Speaker 2: this right now. It's this chick that went missing and
Speaker 2: her mom gave her up for adoption. Whatever the newest
Speaker 2: one on Netflix is, And I'm like, you guys are
Speaker 2: all the same. I posted a meme where it's like,
Speaker 2: I like using those ones from TikTok, and it's like
Speaker 2: Joe Rokan being like, you know, like I don't know
Speaker 2: what that feels like, but uh, I would like to know.
Speaker 2: And I was like, uh, chicks that watch True crime
Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah, yeah, this was a good vibe. I
Speaker 2: I feel like, and I only bring people on the
Speaker 2: show that I think that I'll connect with, like, and
Speaker 2: a lot of people do this thing where they bring
Speaker 2: on people that they you know, are going to make
Speaker 2: whatever money off or whatever whatever they or influence. But
Speaker 2: I only legitimately bring on people on the show that
Speaker 2: I like and that I see that I'm like, ah,
Speaker 2: we'll get along, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean, so honored.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool and I and this stuff is the
Speaker 2: the stuff that gets my goat. As the expression goes
Speaker 2: right that the paranormal has always been my first love.
Speaker 4: I feel it.
Speaker 2: Do you do you have any other thing that you
Speaker 2: maybe want to add, anything that maybe you didn't touch upon.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I mean we could be here for days.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should have you back on. We'll do something
Speaker 2: at the end of October. In your Halloween or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you haven't, think we should bring on.
Speaker 2: The whole team, that would be cool. If they're down,
Speaker 2: I would. I would one hundred percent be down do
Speaker 2: that do a kind of thing is this time. If
Speaker 2: they're down, We'll do it as a full live stream
Speaker 2: thing and I go live to all my platforms and
Speaker 2: we'll have people talking in the chat and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: So if you want to do that.
Speaker 4: We've done one other podcast before with the whole team,
Speaker 4: so they definitely would.
Speaker 5: Be that's cool.
Speaker 2: I'm down for that. I'm down for that vibe, and
Speaker 2: for some reason people love that with like different points
Speaker 2: of views and conversations. I'm down and I've dranken a
Speaker 2: bunch of of whiskey, so sheuld probably that we should
Speaker 2: probably cap it off every to everybody that's listening, shout
Speaker 2: out where they can find you. I actually really did
Speaker 2: like this conversation. And what most people don't stand there
Speaker 2: is like, I'm not here to do interviews. I'm here
Speaker 2: to do conversations, you know, to talk with each other,
Speaker 2: to get to know each other. It's what I want
Speaker 2: out of my show, not this thing.
Speaker 5: Of like so what about this or what about that?
Speaker 5: You know, it's just like I want to have conversations.
Speaker 4: And you achieved that. This is great.
Speaker 5: You're gonna I have definitely bring you back on the show.
Speaker 5: This is fun.
Speaker 2: Shout out all your stuff, tell the people where to
Speaker 2: find you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can find me on Instagram and TikTok
Speaker 4: at Haunting Lee Crista. Also on Facebook at Haunting Lee Crista.
Speaker 4: But I mean I don't really post on there, but
Speaker 4: but there on my personal YouTube, which I'm going to
Speaker 4: start to post a little bit more on Haunting Lee
Speaker 4: Crista as well. But I'm also Walking among Us Official
Speaker 4: on YouTube for all the paranormal stuff.
Speaker 5: Go support the shows.
Speaker 2: YouTube is a garbage platform, but if we can get
Speaker 2: as many people as we can. For some reason, YouTube
Speaker 2: likes to like push out the worst content creators in
Speaker 2: the world. I know it's not good, So I tell
Speaker 2: you guys, invest into Rumble, not like money wise, but
Speaker 2: just good I think people.
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 2: I will shout this out to the day I dies.
Speaker 2: Rumble is a better platform by far than YouTube, and
Speaker 2: you can say all sorts.
Speaker 5: Of crazy stuff on there. So let's get to now
Speaker 5: support Rumble.
Speaker 2: Everybody, stay strange.
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