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Speaker 3: Just got the last of the cards that I'm going
Speaker 3: to alter leading into Vegas. Got them at a discount.
Speaker 1: How you want to do it?
Speaker 2: Cecio Holiday.
Speaker 3: It feels like a freaking holiday out there because we're
Speaker 3: under this much snow and it's almost the start of
Speaker 3: freaking April.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that holiday is Christmas very much. That's how much
Speaker 1: snow we have.
Speaker 2: Snow day very much. So.
Speaker 3: Schools in our area shut down today snowy yeah, holy
Speaker 3: Handley shut down because there's just semi sideways because we
Speaker 3: could have skated there.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, and ice yeah yeah. I mean when we
Speaker 1: were out walking yesterday, Earth fell down twice. I fell
Speaker 1: down one time. No cancussy this time though. Good. No
Speaker 1: brain no brain damage for your boy today. Good.
Speaker 3: And you heard producer Gary in their big thanks to
Speaker 3: the dufferin Avenue.
Speaker 2: Media Network Network Network Studio that we're in. Mm hmm
Speaker 2: and uh sidewalk slam coming up. You know what.
Speaker 3: I've got Game two up and loaded onto the computer.
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to try a new thing with it,
Speaker 3: and I hope that people like it. You'd see the
Speaker 3: sidewalk slam graphic if you're watching.
Speaker 2: On YouTube, which should be very much so because editor.
Speaker 1: Joe ah transitions.
Speaker 2: What a great transition. Editor Joe has worked very hard
Speaker 2: for us for a very long time. But we regret
Speaker 2: to inform you, your listener or viewer, that this is
Speaker 2: going to be his last one.
Speaker 1: Mostly viewer than listener, because the listener probably doesn't notice
Speaker 1: all the hard work that Joe puts in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the listener, the listener only doesn't give a crap
Speaker 2: about editors. But we very much like and appreciate him
Speaker 2: and have enjoyed hanging out with him, meeting him the
Speaker 2: few times because he lives in freaking winter Peg. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a long way away, and he is going to be
Speaker 2: done with his tenure on CCO. But it just sad, Yeah,
Speaker 2: very sad. It kind of feels like, I would like
Speaker 2: to say, the passing of the torch, but that's like
Speaker 2: a positive that kind of has a positive connotation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this sucks, This is terrible, This sucks.
Speaker 2: We got to find out what the hell we're gonna do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I've got some I've got some couple couple of
Speaker 2: things about Editor Joe. I wanted to say, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: so he's living, he's probably going to do esport screaming
Speaker 2: with all his free time, and he's probably going to
Speaker 2: play frisbee golf.
Speaker 1: What's the esport that he plays? Do you know game
Speaker 1: he plays?
Speaker 2: Uh? Legal Legends? Probably what a probably Legal Legends.
Speaker 1: I'll bet he Maine's Misfortune?
Speaker 2: That does Is she a dom Is that?
Speaker 1: No? She's a pirate?
Speaker 2: Oh definitely am yeah? Yeah yeah butt pirate?
Speaker 1: Oh probably for sure. I can't I don't know any
Speaker 1: other Legal Legends characters. Off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: There's a jester, and there's a little short lady with
Speaker 1: a cannon he renect, and there's an alligator.
Speaker 2: Guy, I got this. I got this, Editor, Joel, have
Speaker 2: it on the screen for you. There it is, that's
Speaker 2: added to his list.
Speaker 1: That's the last show. Let's take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, he's gonna do some esports screaming and
Speaker 3: all his free time. I'm sure scream casting as he
Speaker 3: calls it.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 3: He's probably gonna play frisbee golf, like I said, And
Speaker 3: once the snow finally melts come.
Speaker 1: August, very excited.
Speaker 3: We call it Frisbee Golf because he's gonna probably trademark
Speaker 3: that and make millions of dollars because he loves frisbees.
Speaker 1: Do you think he'll give us millions of dollars if
Speaker 1: he makes millions of dollars? Probably not.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, maybe.
Speaker 1: Talking nice about this guy for maybe he'll buy us
Speaker 1: a beer.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 3: Well, and you know what the other thing too, he's
Speaker 3: he's actually been on CCO And I didn't know this,
Speaker 3: neither did you. And this is what makes me sad
Speaker 3: and is so important to acknowledge that he's been on
Speaker 3: CEO doing the video editing for Commander Cookout podcast right
Speaker 3: since before we were Commander Coot Media Group and featured
Speaker 3: media from other creators all the way across North America.
Speaker 2: He's done more CEOs.
Speaker 3: Like the Flagship Show on our platform. He's done more
Speaker 3: CEOs than there were CEOs before he started. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: came on episode two o four, Holy shit, two O four,
Speaker 3: and he's missed from two oh four to four eighty five.
Speaker 3: He's missed maybe two wow. Yeah, he knows probably and
Speaker 3: has listened to more Commander Cookout podcast. Probably than almost
Speaker 3: anybody else in the world.
Speaker 1: Is than anybody except maybe for like me.
Speaker 2: And maybe me. Yeah, yeah, mind you. Sometimes I have
Speaker 2: earplugs in so I don't have to hear Bredo.
Speaker 3: It's just me talking. I'm watching his lips for when
Speaker 3: he stops talking. Yeah, So, editor, Joe came on episode
Speaker 3: two o four. If we just do the math, that's
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty one episodes. I would like to
Speaker 3: say it's probably two seventy nine, but maybe he knows.
Speaker 2: Maybe he missed two, Maybe he missed one. I think
Speaker 2: he missed one during like COVID and Tyler did it,
Speaker 2: and then he missed one other one that I got
Speaker 2: Tyler to do.
Speaker 1: He probably had a baby or something. You have a baby.
Speaker 2: He was probably like doing screen printing on discs or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: And the only thing more than the number of episodes
Speaker 3: that Joe has done, and we wrote it down because
Speaker 3: we are smart and prepared professionals, the only thing he's
Speaker 3: done more than two hundred and eighty one shows is
Speaker 3: put deserted Temple on the screen, because that's the card
Speaker 3: that we could never ever remember.
Speaker 1: Would you believe that when he was like, remember the card.
Speaker 1: We can never remember, like, oh yeah, Deserted Temple the
Speaker 1: one time I remembered it, the one fucking time. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't even on camera.
Speaker 2: No, we were just like on.
Speaker 3: The pig for the Fusion Open and we're playing games
Speaker 3: or oh no, he was doing the lost episode of
Speaker 3: Sidewalk Slam yeah, and he talked about the land that
Speaker 3: he always puts on screen and we were.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, you mean Deserted Temple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was like, why is you can remember
Speaker 1: it now as.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So lots of love to editor Joe.
Speaker 1: We're gonna miss you dude. Ye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we very much appreciate the all of the hard work,
Speaker 3: the effort, the four am editing sessions so the show
Speaker 3: could go out on time. It's a lot easier for
Speaker 3: Brando to do the editing or the audio processing than
Speaker 3: it is to do the video processing, especially because he's
Speaker 3: doing it all in post.
Speaker 2: He's we're not doing anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we weren't doing anything on the fly live because
Speaker 3: we've always been the shoes during budget that we are,
Speaker 3: and we had Joe, and we had Joe exactly what.
Speaker 3: It's a blessing and a curse because now Brand and
Speaker 3: I are learning a little bit more about production and
Speaker 3: frickin' planning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So it's the turning of a tide a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 3: That's better than the passing of a torch, the turning
Speaker 3: of the tide, and the tide is coming in, going out.
Speaker 1: The tides coming in. We're that we're buried up to
Speaker 1: our necks in the sand by Leslie Nielsen. Yes, and
Speaker 1: he says, well, maybe if you could hold your breath
Speaker 1: long enough, you can make it out of the sand.
Speaker 1: But then you don't, because that's not how the tides work. Yes,
Speaker 1: you ever see that? No? You did?
Speaker 2: No, definitely not.
Speaker 1: You never see that.
Speaker 3: So there's going to be I guess some slight changes
Speaker 3: to what Commander Cookout looks like because we are going
Speaker 3: to be doing it a lot more hands on in
Speaker 3: house during production with the dufferin Avenue. Media Network producer
Speaker 3: Gary lb who was doing the production last week, has
Speaker 3: showed us a bunch of stuff. So if, yeah, if
Speaker 3: you don't listen or watch on YouTube, come and check
Speaker 3: it out because it's gonna be cool. We've got some
Speaker 3: new graphics and stuff. Editor Joe's probably rolling his eyes like,
Speaker 3: why the fuck didn't you do this when I was there? Right, Sorry, Joe?
Speaker 2: And it should have been so good, had to exactly,
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a ton of fun.
Speaker 3: And that is to say the Patreon is going to
Speaker 3: be more important than ever because more than ever, it's
Speaker 3: gonna take Brando and I more time, and we don't
Speaker 3: want the quality of the show to go down. We
Speaker 3: want to hit the ground running and have end user
Speaker 3: experience as high of quality as editor Joe could do
Speaker 3: right from the hops.
Speaker 1: So we've been digging our way out for two hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty one episodes. You don't want to go back
Speaker 1: into the hole.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and eighty one episodes of training all for
Speaker 2: this dab.
Speaker 1: I've digging up. We've done We've found like one punch man,
Speaker 1: you know, you just do enough push ups and you
Speaker 1: run far enough and do enough sit ups, enough squats too. Yep,
Speaker 1: And I was sudd you can kill anything in one punch,
Speaker 1: but all your hair falls out.
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that that, yeah, that that could definitely
Speaker 2: be a things.
Speaker 3: And what I was saying, the Patreon more important than
Speaker 3: ever because the time that it takes to do the
Speaker 3: show at the quality that everybody expects it to be
Speaker 3: at very important Patreon dot com slash CEO podcast, I
Speaker 3: would add, and this isn't me began for money, especially
Speaker 3: not for you. Is Uncle Brando in between jobs, so
Speaker 3: he's been working at the dufferent Avs studio doing everything
Speaker 3: that is required of a medio studio to run, or
Speaker 3: everything he's asked.
Speaker 1: I built a whole streaming setup for yes to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of fun.
Speaker 3: So we would uh as always appreciate the Patreon support.
Speaker 2: And oh wow, that gets you into get invited to
Speaker 2: the next CEO experience.
Speaker 1: The next one meaning Vegas.
Speaker 3: While well, here's the thing about Vegas, I say the
Speaker 3: next CEO experience because the Vegas house full did it.
Speaker 1: We did it, We did it. Doesn't that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you shouldn't go grab your friends, get a room. Fucking
Speaker 1: come down. We're gonna be there. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: great time, and I'd love to see you.
Speaker 2: Get a room, Get get some magic playing friends together
Speaker 2: that you'd like to hook.
Speaker 1: Up with, get a room, get two rooms.
Speaker 2: Just one.
Speaker 3: Well that one time I slept in the same hotel
Speaker 3: room with four guys. I end up getting step throat.
Speaker 1: You got the playroom in the smash room.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, which room are you streaming in? This is Vegas.
Speaker 1: This is Vegas playing.
Speaker 2: Room and the smashroom. Some of those aren't the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm still learning the Twitter things, smash the what the
Speaker 1: fuck Spotify rules?
Speaker 2: Man a TV just went out.
Speaker 3: I hope that means that that this recording is still working.
Speaker 1: No, well we have until Gary's done taking a crap.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Patreon, every little bit helps. We really appreciate
Speaker 1: the patrons. Come on down to Vegas. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: be there, we'd love to see you. If you're planning
Speaker 1: on coming down to the big city, definitely do what.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Vegas in june's a good time,
Speaker 1: I'm and Atlanta's coming up after that, Yeah, in September.
Speaker 1: Make your plan. That was the one that I'm not
Speaker 1: the most excited about. But I'm really really pumped to
Speaker 1: go to Atlantics. I've never been to that part of
Speaker 1: the States before. I'm excited to see some swamp stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll even get to wrestle an alligator maybe and
Speaker 1: I would really enjoy that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the last thing, of course, if you ever want
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Speaker 3: buy anybody a beer. Alex is coming. Aiden's coming, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: whatever Danny might be coming.
Speaker 2: We got sink Guy, jockslap Nutter, butter.
Speaker 1: Mommy Keel, Rudnisky, the coolest.
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Speaker 1: All Killer, No Killer, Miller, Chiller, genuine Draft. It's gonna
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Speaker 2: Chili tacos.
Speaker 1: Yes, man, that's the part that I'm very excited about.
Speaker 2: Pools beer. We're gonna be swimming in both. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be awesome. But what are we talking about for real today?
Speaker 1: What are we talking about for real today is we
Speaker 1: are gonna take our first look at Tark here. We're
Speaker 1: doing this one before the pre release, which happens chronologically.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to the show on release day on
Speaker 1: the Tuesday, coming up on Friday, you're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to go to relgs or wherever you want to go,
Speaker 1: Fusion Gaming Online dot Com. You're gonna place all your stuff,
Speaker 1: you're gonna play in your pre releases, where you're gonna
Speaker 1: find the cards that you want, and is it worth
Speaker 1: it to actually crack some packs of this set. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a look at some of the special treatments,
Speaker 1: some of the decisions that Watsi's made in regards to
Speaker 1: said special treatments. They've made one to the collector boosters
Speaker 1: that I am very hopeful continues because I think it's
Speaker 1: a great idea.
Speaker 2: You mean you don't hate it.
Speaker 1: I certainly don't hate it. I in fact love it.
Speaker 1: I love what they decided to do in tark here
Speaker 1: in a particular collector boosty slot, Okay, And I really
Speaker 1: really hope that it catches on and they keep doing it.
Speaker 1: While the treatment that they've chosen for this set might
Speaker 1: not be the most exciting, the idea is just so
Speaker 1: good and I really like it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Cool.
Speaker 3: I actually like to hear positive stuff from you. You
Speaker 3: said on the pre show yesterday that you're not interested
Speaker 3: in picking up any of the individual cards from the set,
Speaker 3: but you do appreciate the set for what it is,
Speaker 3: it's cards, it's mechanics, and obviously this new thing that
Speaker 3: the Collector Slot our Collector Booster is doing.
Speaker 1: So so much stuff this set does right. It's just
Speaker 1: it's not like the thing that's me excited. But there's
Speaker 1: so much here. I think people should rightfully be excited.
Speaker 2: I like that real quick. Legends next week, yep.
Speaker 3: And then the final thing that we're going to be
Speaker 3: doing for our Tarkire review will be our favorite cards
Speaker 3: and stuff, and over the next couple of weeks will
Speaker 3: be us kind of experimenting with the new look at
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: So cross your freaking fingers. Oh boy, let's get into
Speaker 2: it with I would like to say, you know what
Speaker 2: I got to bring. I got to bring it up
Speaker 2: real quick that the mechanics are art.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the mechanics. I think that the even I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it again, I think that the mechanics for
Speaker 1: this set, while not world altering, are good. I think
Speaker 1: that they're absolutely fine mechanics. I think that they're decks,
Speaker 1: that they're ones that will fit into decks that people
Speaker 1: are already playing, yeap, and they're not gonna be one
Speaker 1: of these ones where since they never printed again, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be this undersupported, just piece of shit that nobody
Speaker 1: gives a shit about. These are gonna be cards that
Speaker 1: are just gonna be good. And I like that a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what.
Speaker 3: The only thing that I don't always like about I'm
Speaker 3: gonna call this a five color set. I know that
Speaker 3: it's wedges, yeah, but more than wedges, it's a centralized
Speaker 3: color that has two other colors beside it, so that
Speaker 3: you've got five clans. Yeah, and the five clans all
Speaker 3: have their own mechanic or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And that's when we see grasping at straws or things
Speaker 3: that are named that don't always see a reprint radiance. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a power kind of discrepancy. This one's really good. We're
Speaker 3: going to see it again in a modern horizon set
Speaker 3: or a remastered set. This one sucks, We'll never see
Speaker 3: it again, so let's just keep that in mind as
Speaker 3: we go through.
Speaker 2: This is the Absen one. It's called Endure.
Speaker 4: Absen is green, black, white. Yes, there we go, So
Speaker 4: Absen endure. We've got it's endure and then a number. Okay,
Speaker 4: so endure N is how it would be denoted in
Speaker 4: the comprehensive rule book. Let's say endure three put three
Speaker 4: plus one plus one counters on on it or a creature.
Speaker 2: Fuck see, I already.
Speaker 1: Don't know that. When the creature comes into play, you
Speaker 1: put endure n three counters in this sorry sorry sorry,
Speaker 1: Or you make a shitty ghost, which is a white
Speaker 1: spirit that doesn't fly with that many counters.
Speaker 3: Yes, ETBs, that's what I was reading a reminder text
Speaker 3: on on the screen, and when.
Speaker 2: It enters, you endure.
Speaker 3: Yes, So you get a ghost of whatever size or counters.
Speaker 1: So you play a dude that's big, or you play
Speaker 1: get two dudes that are of medium size or whatever size.
Speaker 2: You go wide or go tall. I actually don't hate
Speaker 2: that cool. I think it's we're not a limited podcast, Ryan,
Speaker 2: don't review for limited. I don't know how much application
Speaker 2: there's going to be in Commander, unless there's a commander
Speaker 2: that gives all your guys endure, or unless there's some
Speaker 2: card that I would play in a token or plus
Speaker 2: one plus one strategy if.
Speaker 1: You have an ETB strategy going on, or if I
Speaker 1: don't know, if you've heard a little card called doubling season,
Speaker 1: this would be real good there, right, so it's one
Speaker 1: of those. It's not groundbreaking, but again it's a it's
Speaker 1: gonna be creatures that are efficient. If you need a
Speaker 1: big beater, you got it. If you need blockers, it'll
Speaker 1: get you there too. So this is a cool This
Speaker 1: is a cool one, and I like it. It's fine.
Speaker 1: It's not world shattering, but it's a it's a cool card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 3: Difficient as in, if you add up total power for
Speaker 3: how much manna cost you get that's where the efficiency is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking at a card right now that gives
Speaker 1: you either a seven to seven for seven or a
Speaker 1: four to four and a three three for seven.
Speaker 2: Seven, seven for six, seven seven for six. Let's say
Speaker 2: six or a four to four and a three to
Speaker 2: three six and one of them has reached Sure, cool, Sure,
Speaker 2: that's that's fine. Okay, the Jess guy, this is white,
Speaker 2: red blue.
Speaker 1: I don't like this one.
Speaker 2: They have flurry.
Speaker 3: Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, something something.
Speaker 1: Some something does a thing, It does one damage, you
Speaker 1: draw card, you make a token, you whatever to fuck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So if you're playing multiple spells every turn, as Jess
Speaker 1: Sky decks or is it decks, what to do it's
Speaker 1: your spell slinger mechanic again, not world shattering. It's just fine.
Speaker 3: It's fine because there's already cards that do this that
Speaker 3: are good. Yes, And they just named it a little
Speaker 3: bit of a shortcut in design, I think, which is
Speaker 3: totally fine.
Speaker 2: I don't care do it.
Speaker 3: They're just naming something we already do, Like what was
Speaker 3: the creature fall mechanic, not radiance creature fall landfall.
Speaker 2: When this happens, because you know what happens, because it's magic,
Speaker 2: this other thing happens, they're just naming it.
Speaker 3: I think flurry is great when you name something, obviously
Speaker 3: they're going to use that name a bunch in the set.
Speaker 3: So we're going to get a bunch of when you
Speaker 3: cast two things. So your spell slinger decks, like you say,
Speaker 3: decks like my Calimax deck that isn't a spell slinger
Speaker 3: deck and it's not a combo deck, but it does
Speaker 3: try to cast an instant on every single person's turn.
Speaker 3: On my turn, I try to cast like two creatures
Speaker 3: or a creature and a sorcery, a ramp spell and
Speaker 3: a ramp artifacture to get some benefit to set me
Speaker 3: up for your turn. And somebody and somebody and then
Speaker 3: back to my turn, so there will always be two
Speaker 3: spells on my turn.
Speaker 1: Yes, so flurry cool, very good. Wrong with it?
Speaker 2: We're going to see maybe a commander that has it. Sure.
Speaker 3: The next one is SALTI black, green blue. They have renew,
Speaker 3: So renew is another ability word. So it's exile this
Speaker 3: card from your graveyard to do something, something something, Yes.
Speaker 3: Activate only as a sorcery, yes, So it's like sort
Speaker 3: of flashback.
Speaker 1: Typically, I think all the ones that I've seen, I
Speaker 1: haven't read every card on the set yet. It's typically
Speaker 1: on a creature and you'll remove the creature from the
Speaker 1: graveyard to make another creature you have in play better
Speaker 1: in some way. The buy a box promo of this
Speaker 1: set is essentially a Vampire Nighthawk that you can renew
Speaker 1: it to give vampire Nighthawk abilities to another creature, which
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. And again that's that's a cool ability.
Speaker 1: Like your dude dies, you can like renew or reuse
Speaker 1: or recycle your creature and it's cool. I think recycle
Speaker 1: have already used, but anyway, the point is it's cool, yes,
Speaker 1: and I like it.
Speaker 3: I like renew because it's the kind of thing in
Speaker 3: my mind. That gives magic. It's really subtle nuance and depth.
Speaker 3: I could have something that has flashback in my graveyard.
Speaker 3: Flashback is like exile it from your graveyard. Cast it
Speaker 3: from exile. I'm casting it. Therefore it could be countered
Speaker 3: or something might care about flashback. Flashback costs are reduced by.
Speaker 2: One, et cetera. This is an activated ability that you
Speaker 2: activate when the card is in your graveyard. So if
Speaker 2: it has to be stopped, you need a stifle or
Speaker 2: a trick bind or something.
Speaker 3: So a little bit harder. And because it's on creatures,
Speaker 3: you might be able to, let's say Tutor for a creature,
Speaker 3: put it directly into your graveyard.
Speaker 1: Makes Buried Alive a really good card, even though it
Speaker 1: was already a really yeah yeah you said.
Speaker 3: So, just gives it some subtle nuance and depth, Like
Speaker 3: I want this effect, but I want it my graveyard.
Speaker 3: Oh now I got this thing that is a creature.
Speaker 3: It's an activated ability, a little bit harder to stop.
Speaker 3: So that's cool.
Speaker 1: Not game breaking as far as I've seen, but cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty good at abilities like this and not
Speaker 3: doing the thing. It's like, oh man, if they just
Speaker 3: let me do that at instant speed. If they just
Speaker 3: made it do this, then it would be this card
Speaker 3: in my graveyard, and that card happens to be broken
Speaker 3: whenever you say that.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Mardo black, white, red, and now we're talking mobilize.
Speaker 2: This sounds like freakin' a Boros mechanic.
Speaker 1: Sure does.
Speaker 3: Okay, So mobilize is whenever mobilize n in this case,
Speaker 3: mobilize one. Whenever this creature attacks, create a tapped and
Speaker 3: attacking one one red warrior creature token, sacrifice it at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the next end step kick ass.
Speaker 1: Sure it's Hero of Blade holds first ability, it has battlecry,
Speaker 1: and mobilized. That's what it happened.
Speaker 3: Yes, and specifically, though, the number after the mobilized word
Speaker 3: indicates the number.
Speaker 2: Of dudes you get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so mobilized two doesn't give you one, two two,
Speaker 3: It gives you two to one ones.
Speaker 2: Mobilized ten would give you ten one one.
Speaker 1: I want that.
Speaker 2: I like that one. I want that certain mobilized tens.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a I think I saw mobilized X.
Speaker 1: Hey that's ten, I think, which could be pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a mono red mobilized card. That's good,
Speaker 1: so I can put it in NORN to abuse some
Speaker 1: more ETB abilities, but so far I haven't found one yet.
Speaker 2: And then they and and the mobilized red guy.
Speaker 3: That would be good would be like a common or
Speaker 3: uncommon that's set specific.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't get a special printing for.
Speaker 1: Them, that's right. Frick Yeah, well unless it's super unless
Speaker 1: it's a dragon, in which case it would have a
Speaker 1: Dragon frame or a Clans frame, which we're going to
Speaker 1: get to. The Clans frame is oh yeah, baby, do
Speaker 1: you like those? No, but I like the idea of them.
Speaker 1: I think they look stupid, but the idea of them
Speaker 1: is great.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay. Last one my favorite Teamer or Ta Mirror.
Speaker 2: As some people say, people are stupid. They're just wrong.
Speaker 1: They're mispronouncing the word. That's fine, you can do that sometimes. Yes,
Speaker 1: some people say exile.
Speaker 2: Oh you know who you are. Some people say Brandeau.
Speaker 1: What has ever called me that? I'm gonna call you
Speaker 1: that Brandoudeau?
Speaker 3: Okay, So Teamer has harmonized, which which is a magic
Speaker 3: card name already one.
Speaker 1: Of the most boring cards. Somebody played it. Yes, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, that card is so boring. It's fine,
Speaker 1: and the guy that took personal offense. What we taught
Speaker 1: was boring. What's this boring? It's you tap four, you
Speaker 1: draw three. It's about you know what.
Speaker 2: I like boring cards. I like magic cards. Got one
Speaker 2: line of text on them. I like, give me that
Speaker 2: one liner. I'm happy we even have one line and
Speaker 2: would be good.
Speaker 3: I'm reading this card producer Gary, He's producing all over
Speaker 3: the place, and I'm trying to read this card. He
Speaker 3: obviously wants me to read this card A harmonize harmonize.
Speaker 3: You may cast this card from your graveyard for its
Speaker 3: harmonized cost.
Speaker 2: You may tap a.
Speaker 3: Creature you control to reduce that cost by x, where
Speaker 3: x is that creature's power. Neat, and then you exile
Speaker 3: the card with harmonized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's a new it's a new kind
Speaker 1: of flashback, Yes, mixed with convoke, mixed with another ability
Speaker 1: that I can't think of right now. For not ferocious,
Speaker 1: there's something that has to do with the power of
Speaker 1: your biggest dude, and that's what it does.
Speaker 2: Monster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a whole bunch of stuff kind of piled in there.
Speaker 1: But again, it's a cool new flashback mechanic that's just
Speaker 1: going to make some cards good.
Speaker 2: I really like this because.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: This is I think that this is really good.
Speaker 3: As in tapping a creature that especially if any of
Speaker 3: these harmonized cards are instant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do it like at the end of
Speaker 2: player force turn.
Speaker 3: You you would only play like we're looking at Roamer's routine.
Speaker 3: Search your library for a basic landcard, put under the battlefield, tap,
Speaker 3: then shuffle. You could harmonize that later when you have
Speaker 3: extra creature that you just want to pay five, but
Speaker 3: reduce it and get another land, like you want to
Speaker 3: harmonize as good.
Speaker 1: You want to pay one instead of five, because that's
Speaker 1: what it is, right, it's green two you get a land,
Speaker 1: so it's a rampant growth for one more. But in
Speaker 1: your bin if you have a four power guy, it
Speaker 1: becomes rampant growth for one, which is fine.
Speaker 2: I think that disability is good.
Speaker 1: Right, so you got five perfectly? Oh? Omens is it
Speaker 1: another one?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's there's lots more omens omens.
Speaker 1: Is Oh, that's that's storytime or adventures like that. It's
Speaker 1: the same mechanic.
Speaker 3: It's like adventure, except it doesn't go on an adventure.
Speaker 3: It gets shuffled into your library, so you could actually
Speaker 3: draw it again later, which has some sneaky and weird implications,
Speaker 3: like if you get a card with that you want
Speaker 3: to cast the omen of, then you shuffle it back
Speaker 3: into your library, and if it's like the only creature
Speaker 3: in your library, you can still get valid you out
Speaker 3: of it, or you can cast it for cheap, Like
Speaker 3: we're looking at.
Speaker 1: The taps of creature draws. A card tap a.
Speaker 2: Creature draw card at instant speed is the skimming strike.
Speaker 1: So with infinite manna, you could put this on the
Speaker 1: top of your doomsday pile to crack it and then
Speaker 1: add a card to the doomsday pile and fuck up
Speaker 1: your doomsday pile.
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's weird in that, like if it's the
Speaker 3: only card in your library, you can continuously cast it
Speaker 3: because it gets shuffled back in. And then at the
Speaker 3: end of that, if you need the resulting casting infinite
Speaker 3: cards in a row to be a creature, you still
Speaker 3: have the creature. You can search for a creature. You
Speaker 3: could search for a creature because it is a creature,
Speaker 3: but then the creature's actually a bounce or removal spell.
Speaker 3: That's like there's some really interesting and subtle applications to this.
Speaker 2: Sure, I like it.
Speaker 1: It's fine, I like it.
Speaker 2: So anyways, those are the abilities? Oh fuck, what's behold?
Speaker 2: Come on? How many freaking abilities is there?
Speaker 1: Oh? Behold as you show them a thing. They use
Speaker 1: that in Laura and block for those lands and stuff
Speaker 1: when target. When said land comes into play, it's tapped
Speaker 1: unless you behold a goblin or behold amrphul. This one
Speaker 1: is behold a dragon.
Speaker 2: To behold a dragon, choose a dragon you control, or
Speaker 2: reveal a dragon card from your hand, and then it like.
Speaker 1: Costs less than it does a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Sarcan gets a plus and plus one counter, becomes a
Speaker 1: dragon and flies because he's a simp dragon simp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a dragon simp. Yes, that's fine, nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: being a simp. But like, yeah, I'm sick of Sarkan's shit.
Speaker 2: He's especially a dragon.
Speaker 1: Is he the most one dimensional planes walker? I think
Speaker 1: that him and Chondra are very tied for the most
Speaker 1: one dimensional.
Speaker 2: Planswalker well, based on how the color system in Magic works.
Speaker 1: Just hate red red planes walkers.
Speaker 3: The way that the color system in Magic works, I
Speaker 3: think all of the mono colored planes, walkers. Every one
Speaker 3: of them is one dimensional, and that's intentional. Tell me
Speaker 3: I'm wrong in the comments.
Speaker 1: I guess I suppose that.
Speaker 2: Aiden all killer, no filler Miller. Tell me I'm wrong
Speaker 2: on Commander Munchies. You should freaking watch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So let's get to the stuff that people want to
Speaker 2: hear about special guests.
Speaker 1: What do you think special gut? I am so torn
Speaker 1: because half of them we have dual enemy colored fetch lands,
Speaker 1: which are Man, you are just a mess. You're a mess, dude.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my chair just fell down and trapped
Speaker 1: my ankles in it.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, I can't move my legs. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna have We're gonna have to. I actually can't we go,
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Because they ain't there.
Speaker 1: No, okay, what this drink in front of me. So,
Speaker 1: now that we've survived that enemy color fetch lands and
Speaker 1: two separate arts and two separate foiling processes.
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to talk about that until we talk
Speaker 2: about booster packs, which are fantastic.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great that they're printing them again, but it's
Speaker 1: sucky that they're doing it like this. I would have
Speaker 1: liked to just see them in the regular set. So
Speaker 1: I feel like using the special guests to have needed
Speaker 1: reprints in them. Yeah, is a little bit, a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bunk.
Speaker 2: It doesn't lead to excitement, did it. It doesn't lead
Speaker 2: to excitement when you open booster packs.
Speaker 1: Yes it does. Yes, it does. If you were to
Speaker 1: open a regular booster pack and pop a goddamn fetch
Speaker 1: Land out of there, you would be very excited.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're using excitement in the traditional definition, using it
Speaker 2: in the Watzi definition.
Speaker 1: Oh for money. So here's the thing, Because number of
Speaker 1: times when people give you a lot of money in
Speaker 1: hoping of getting the excitement which means money, and you
Speaker 1: open a fucking ultimatum, you're gonna be really pissed off.
Speaker 2: Hey man, what's the ultimatum that I like?
Speaker 1: None of them are better than a fetch Land, None
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 2: None of them I hate. That's true.
Speaker 1: And they all they look really cool.
Speaker 2: I love Ruinous Ultimatum. I love Genesis Ultimatum.
Speaker 1: And they're fine.
Speaker 2: I love those cards.
Speaker 1: They're totally fine, totally serviceable cards. They're sorceries for color, color, color, color, color, color, color,
Speaker 1: three colors. Then they do something cracked. Absolutely, they just
Speaker 1: kill every permanent your opponent's control. They put all the
Speaker 1: creatures from your bin into play. They do all sorts
Speaker 1: of crazy shit. But when they are held up and
Speaker 1: they say you're gonna get one special guest in every
Speaker 1: box you buy, cool.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I need to crack a misty rainforest to put
Speaker 2: my frickin' delighted halfling into play in CEDH and I
Speaker 2: need that misty rainforest.
Speaker 1: And you get a Mardo ultimatum.
Speaker 2: Ooh, hurting, not even the Genesis ultimatum.
Speaker 1: They look excellent, But I mean I think that I
Speaker 1: really do think they should have been in the regular set.
Speaker 1: Even if they put like standard art in the real
Speaker 1: set and the special guests slot was the extended borderless ones.
Speaker 1: That would be cool.
Speaker 2: But oh and you mean like standard aret, like regular
Speaker 2: fetch Land in the set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean they don't want to put fetch
Speaker 1: Lands in Standard Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 3: And they also don't want to put special guests in
Speaker 3: play boosters because uh, well, these legal and standards.
Speaker 1: Special they are in play boosters. Oh really, yep, you
Speaker 1: can get nonfoil special guests in your playboosters or what
Speaker 1: are you complaining about them. You can, because they're only
Speaker 1: they're one in a box.
Speaker 2: Who cares they're in there.
Speaker 1: They're not in there enough. If you're gonna reprint fucking
Speaker 1: fetch Lands, reprint the fetch Lands.
Speaker 2: But they're not reprinting fetch Lands. They're put them in
Speaker 2: the Special Guests.
Speaker 1: It's stupid. That means they're not going to reprint them,
Speaker 1: because they will already printed them in dragon Storm.
Speaker 2: But yes, yes, it's it's uh, it's a we've covered
Speaker 2: our asses, see we we reprinted them. Yeah. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: they're in play Boosters, they've done it and they can
Speaker 2: rinse their hands clean of it and we'll get them
Speaker 2: again in five.
Speaker 1: Years and you get a salty stain in your eye. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they do.
Speaker 2: A salty stained from ultimatum.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So the special where.
Speaker 2: Do we get the Special Guests?
Speaker 1: The Special Guests get found once in every X pax.
Speaker 1: You can get non foil ones in the play Boosters,
Speaker 1: you get the foil ones and the dragon scale foil
Speaker 1: ones in the Collector Boosters.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just scrolling down when.
Speaker 1: I say dragon Scale, you know, like the there was
Speaker 1: the man of foil in Foundations, and there was the
Speaker 1: galaxy foil like that when you hold up to the light,
Speaker 1: it kind of changes. It has like a scally kind
Speaker 1: of I think it does look kind of neat. And
Speaker 1: those are the ones. Those are the ones. The ones
Speaker 1: that have the dragon scale are the alternate art versions
Speaker 1: of the fetch Lands that have the dragons in the art.
Speaker 2: M so on top.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on top of getting the enemy Borderless fetch Land,
Speaker 1: you can also get the rarer dragon borderless Art fetch
Speaker 1: Land or the extended Art borderless dragon scale Foil.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've had enough of all that dollars. That's
Speaker 2: enough talking.
Speaker 1: About all that dollars.
Speaker 2: I'm just not interested in any more money.
Speaker 3: If I buy a play booster, a collector booster, or
Speaker 3: a bundle, you could get these. That's what I'm probably
Speaker 3: gonna buy is one of those three things.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: I could get a special guest.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you could get a Fetchland or an ultimatum.
Speaker 2: I am exiting off of the special guest.
Speaker 5: Tab man, you're exiting off of breathing or I friacking
Speaker 5: want to hotly shit dude. Next up, we're not going
Speaker 5: to talk about that. Next up, okay, collector frames.
Speaker 1: We have three of them.
Speaker 2: We have three different styles of collector frames.
Speaker 1: Now this is the part that I was really excited.
Speaker 2: Okay we have Yes.
Speaker 1: So in the past couple of sets, we've had those
Speaker 1: anime cards. If you watch the last Brando's Blocks opening
Speaker 1: with Ryan's Ether Drift one, you saw that we opened
Speaker 1: that crackle Foil Genesis Engine or.
Speaker 2: Whatever it was, Salvation Engine.
Speaker 1: That style of card returns the kind of anime full art,
Speaker 1: but in this case it's being called ghost Flame. So
Speaker 1: it's all like kind of Ugan related cards.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you remember the special edition Ugan border cards
Speaker 2: or special edition like they had a little thing changed
Speaker 2: in the art because it was Ugen themed. Yeah, from
Speaker 2: original tark here Yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: Same kind of game. But it's not a small thing
Speaker 1: that's changed. It's like very blatant art. There's lots of
Speaker 1: white fiery stuff on them. They all look really really cool.
Speaker 2: Ghost Flame if you will.
Speaker 1: Yes, those are your like kind of those. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna be your cards? You're gonna get the crackle foils
Speaker 1: in They show up in that last collector spot in
Speaker 1: a collector booster and foil and crackle foil and all
Speaker 1: those stuff only available in collector Boosters this time. Ye
Speaker 1: are your ghost Flans and there's some cool cards in there.
Speaker 1: There's like I think, all the dragons and Ugan himself,
Speaker 1: that crazy Ugen Caard'm gonna talk about in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, he's gonna show up there. Then we got
Speaker 1: your Dragons of tark here like dragon kind of frame.
Speaker 1: We saw that earlier or early in a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago in I can never remember the either March
Speaker 1: of the Machine or All will be one where they
Speaker 1: had the showcases from all the different planes.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So the Tarkire cards that had those, now they're back.
Speaker 1: These are good. These are the ones that you're going
Speaker 1: to open, like the vehicles in Ether Drift. Ye, the
Speaker 1: full art what'd you call.
Speaker 2: Those rat rat fink ones?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rat fink Art vehicles. This is what you're
Speaker 1: gonna get lots of. You're gonna get your your dragon bordered.
Speaker 2: Dryconic frame cards is what they're called.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And those will show up everywhere that you
Speaker 1: can find a card that come in commons and uncommons
Speaker 1: and mythic wears and all the stuff.
Speaker 3: Play Boosters, Collector Boosters, bundles, pre release kits. Oh I
Speaker 3: clicked on something I didn't want to pre release kits.
Speaker 3: So they will all be there.
Speaker 1: And if they're your thing, if you like them, then
Speaker 1: you like them, and good for you.
Speaker 3: This is this is what I like about this kind
Speaker 3: of thing. Okay, So this is a showcase frame treatment
Speaker 3: or style that we've seen in the past. So people
Speaker 3: who are like, oh, I love that, I want to
Speaker 3: collect all of that showcase frame treatment it is, here's
Speaker 3: a new opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1: This is the refant card. This is the everything like
Speaker 1: the TV border card from Dusk morn yep. So this
Speaker 1: is this sets version of that cool which is cool.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the fucking best one, baby, Well
Speaker 1: the best and the worst one, oh yeah, are the
Speaker 1: clan frame cards. Now, the clan frame cards are half
Speaker 1: just fucking black and then they have some art on
Speaker 1: them and then like a smear of color behind them,
Speaker 1: and the smears of color are the colors of the
Speaker 1: clan that that card is associated with, Yes, which is neat.
Speaker 1: These and this is what is so cool, are replacing
Speaker 1: the extended art rares. Oh yeah. So when you open
Speaker 1: your packs instead of getting that Collector packs, the Collector packs.
Speaker 1: Instead of getting your extended Art rare, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: one of these instead, which I think is really cool.
Speaker 1: Even though I don't care for the art, the style
Speaker 1: of frame, I'm happy that they're getting rid of the
Speaker 1: extended art for these cards.
Speaker 2: These take up the extended art cards from the regular set. Yes,
Speaker 2: not the extend Art pre Con cards.
Speaker 1: Correct. The Extended Art pre can Con cards still exist.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we're gonna terf them next, but these are what
Speaker 1: we got now instead of extended arts, and I'm very
Speaker 1: very happy with that they're doing that.
Speaker 3: They come in traditional foil, that's the treatment they foil
Speaker 3: regular and traditional foil, yes, okay, and.
Speaker 1: They can these ones unlike extended border cards or borderless
Speaker 1: where the hell they were calling them. You can get
Speaker 1: these in playboosters too, which is cool. Yes, So I'm
Speaker 1: really happy that they're doing this, and I hope they
Speaker 1: keep doing it because it's a really good idea and
Speaker 1: for people that really like these kind of cards, now
Speaker 1: more people are going to be able to get them,
Speaker 1: and I always support that.
Speaker 2: Playbooster, Collector Booster Bundle pre Release kit is all the
Speaker 2: places you can get these clan frame cards from a
Speaker 2: design stand Pooh.
Speaker 1: They dark on them.
Speaker 2: They are half black, which makes them quite easy to read,
Speaker 2: but you lose actually what the what the frame and
Speaker 2: the style of stick choice of the card is supposed
Speaker 2: to convey. In most of the actual cards, in the
Speaker 2: background the black splotches of color or whatever it's supposed
Speaker 2: to the black color, you know, the absence of color
Speaker 2: where it's black is a silhouette of the clan's symbol. Sure,
Speaker 2: in some cards it's very easy to tell what that is.
Speaker 2: In other cards, it just looks like somebody took a
Speaker 2: black calligraphy brush and smushed it onto the screen, and
Speaker 2: there's zero translation as to what that is unless you
Speaker 2: already know what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you didn't know that this was a clan
Speaker 1: bar of Thos, I wouldn't have got it if I
Speaker 1: didn't read it. I read it and I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: this makes sense.
Speaker 3: The ones where I know what it is, it actually
Speaker 3: looks really good and it's reminiscent of the San Diego
Speaker 3: Comic Con Black Planes Walkers from like twenty fourteen and
Speaker 3: fifteen or whatever that was sure, and those were awesome
Speaker 3: and very collectible and cool. These are going to look
Speaker 3: cool because the black isn't going to be foiled. But
Speaker 3: the text is, yeah, that's going to be cool. But
Speaker 3: where you lose it in translation and you can't tell
Speaker 3: what the clan symbol is behind the art. I don't
Speaker 3: like and that's just a criticism.
Speaker 2: That's just a design thing that that I just don't
Speaker 2: It doesn't appeal to my eyes and my brain.
Speaker 1: Things can be not appeal to Lots of people. Don't
Speaker 1: like the invocations and I really do, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: You can that's fine, Yeah, you cannot do that.
Speaker 3: The next one that I that I'm totally opposite on
Speaker 3: that I actually really love the look of is borderless
Speaker 3: saga cards. Oh yeah, they did borderless sieges as well.
Speaker 3: But we've already we've seen sagas and we've seen sieges.
Speaker 3: I don't care about the sagas and the sieges.
Speaker 1: I think we have to be careful in pointing out
Speaker 1: that because we've had like Battle hyphen siege, it's not those,
Speaker 1: it's the Enchantment that has siege in the title. So
Speaker 1: it's important when they say you can get sagas and sieges. No,
Speaker 1: they didn't bring battle back. They just put cards that
Speaker 1: are called sieges in, though I hope they do. They
Speaker 1: probably should have brought them back for the Lord of
Speaker 1: the Rings and tark Here and tark Here where all
Speaker 1: the fucking battles are happening and sieges. I like the
Speaker 1: siege pictures where it's like, no, no balls, that balls,
Speaker 1: all that balls. Okay, yeah, I guess barless sieges.
Speaker 2: No I said the wrong word. Borderless sagas they look
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: They're very cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, what were you gonna say?
Speaker 1: I just with all of the art on them is
Speaker 1: like a map and like the generals moving the little
Speaker 1: pieces around like you see in the movies. I like
Speaker 1: that very cool.
Speaker 2: I didn't notice that. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I like that lots. That's very very cool. And the
Speaker 1: borderless sagas are really neat. I'm glad that they started
Speaker 1: doing that. Although I think for the ones that I've seen,
Speaker 1: because the first time they did sagas, didn't they use
Speaker 1: all alternate type artwork like you had like an etching
Speaker 1: and engraving, a screen printing, these ones don't look like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're still doing it. I don't know, but these
Speaker 1: ones just kind of look like magic cards with the
Speaker 1: text boxes tall and on the side.
Speaker 2: They used for a long time. They used.
Speaker 3: In universe art styles that match with whatever world we
Speaker 3: were on, Like we got wood carvings when we're on
Speaker 3: call time, we've got traditional like clay pot kind of art.
Speaker 3: And i'll call it calligraphy on the theorough stuff, Yes
Speaker 3: we did. We got traditional looking Japanese calligraphy on the
Speaker 3: Camagawanion dynasty stuff.
Speaker 1: That we certainly did.
Speaker 3: And I really like the real world or primary world
Speaker 3: tie in or art style and influence on cards like that,
Speaker 3: And I feel like in a lot of cases we
Speaker 3: we missed that in modern magic, and sagas were the
Speaker 3: place that they kind of reserved for that to still happen.
Speaker 3: And with these full art alternate art sagas, we missed that.
Speaker 3: But they also look good. And we've got a little
Speaker 3: bit that primary world influence in the set at large still,
Speaker 3: or at least I hope that we'll have that going forward.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. Yeah, once we get to space,
Speaker 1: it's just me a bunch of Tesla's and shit, I
Speaker 1: hope it's just.
Speaker 2: Gonna be black and it's gonna be like one Star.
Speaker 1: All the lands are just like a different twinkly little
Speaker 1: star in the middle. It's one little glitter that they
Speaker 1: drop on the card and just like seal it in
Speaker 1: there with some foil.
Speaker 3: You gotta look at it through like a telescope to
Speaker 3: even know it's an island or a forest.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be cool if they could do that though,
Speaker 1: Like if you if the card was all black and
Speaker 1: it just kind of twinkly a little bit, but then
Speaker 1: there was one big twinkle spot that if you looked
Speaker 1: at it under a microscope there was like a whole
Speaker 1: little planet with life and all the stuff on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be really neat.
Speaker 1: I would, I would that would be a cool secret layer.
Speaker 2: Ah, sure, secret layer.
Speaker 3: But one of the cards in it is actually like
Speaker 3: a piece of glass or like a magnifying glass.
Speaker 2: You have to look at the card with a jeweler's loop.
Speaker 1: That'd be neat, I would, like.
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to pick your brain about the next
Speaker 3: thing that we often talk about. You talked about the
Speaker 3: dragon scale foils. Yep, I think that those are gonna
Speaker 3: be cool. Are they textured or they just they just.
Speaker 1: Look hit or miss. I don't know, having not touched one,
Speaker 1: and I haven't read whether they are or not. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess maybe. I'm gonna guess they probably are.
Speaker 3: I wonder if editor Joe can get the animation that's
Speaker 3: on the Watzi screen onto them.
Speaker 1: I think that they're leaving cool stuff on the table
Speaker 1: if they're not textured. Oh yeah, they're doing a disservice
Speaker 1: to us. If they're not textured.
Speaker 2: I would say, I like that take. Do you like
Speaker 2: the Dragon's eye basics?
Speaker 1: Ah? No, oh I do not. I love them and
Speaker 1: I'm glad you do. Lots of people do. They're not
Speaker 1: for me. Again, They're not for me, but I'm super
Speaker 1: pumped about them, and I'm glad that people are gonna
Speaker 1: be able to get them if they buy lots of
Speaker 1: Collector boosters. That's the only place you can get them. Yes,
Speaker 1: the wastes that's available isn't in the packs. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get those from your lgs through some non nefarious means,
Speaker 1: probably by participating in Game Days pre releases or whatever
Speaker 1: have you. They'll you'll get them there.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be an expensive waste, sure is. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be the waste that everybody who plays Ougen decks and
Speaker 2: colorless decks is gonna want, Yeah, that's gonna be the one.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeppers.
Speaker 2: I like the dragon's eye basics. I think that they're cool.
Speaker 3: I think if you can find the in universe dragon
Speaker 3: that belongs to that eye, that would be an excellent
Speaker 3: way to theme your manabase for your deck.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: I think that the detail on them, and how very
Speaker 3: hard lined and visible the actual Mana symbols are it
Speaker 3: obviously makes it look non realistic. It's not like the
Speaker 3: shape of a cloud like the thearros Lands space clouds,
Speaker 3: nicks clouds make up kind of vaguely make up the
Speaker 3: Mana symbol. It's not like it's a reflection of the
Speaker 3: Mana symbol in the glossiness of the eye.
Speaker 1: It's their pupil.
Speaker 2: It's their pupil.
Speaker 1: Could if your pupil was shaved like a little sun,
Speaker 1: Let's not use a sun, Let's use a skull. If
Speaker 1: your pupil was a skull, could.
Speaker 2: You see, yes, but not in the way that you
Speaker 2: see now.
Speaker 1: Would you have weird like googly blind spots? Yes, that
Speaker 1: it'd be fucked Yes, good thing. Dragons are magic, they'd
Speaker 1: be screwed.
Speaker 2: Very much so. Now, the one of the island for
Speaker 2: an eye, he could probably see pretty.
Speaker 1: Good, he'd be okay. The planes guy's probably okay.
Speaker 2: He's probably fine too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the skull the freaking skeleton though he's fucked,
Speaker 1: and Fireball guy he's even worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys aren't getting driver license. No, oh, we
Speaker 2: shouldn't laugh at that. But I really like those.
Speaker 3: I think they're cool, and I hope that you know what,
Speaker 3: I hope that I get something I can play.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play none of them. Those lands are going
Speaker 2: into my deck, even if I make a dragon deck,
Speaker 2: because I'm never gonna buy enough collector product to actually
Speaker 2: get those new because I think that those might acts
Speaker 2: should be expensive.
Speaker 1: If those those are gonna be your basics, that are
Speaker 1: gonna be like the Infinity ones, where the regular non
Speaker 1: foil ones are probably gonna be you know, you kicking
Speaker 1: around a dollar or two. Sure, and if you want
Speaker 1: the foil one, you're gonna be looking at two fifty
Speaker 1: or three.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say twelve or fifty.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, they won't. No, they won't be that much.
Speaker 1: There'll be some dollars based on the basic you want,
Speaker 1: and if you want them, you'll be able to get
Speaker 1: them because they're gonna be around, but they show up
Speaker 1: about a third of the time in collector packs versus
Speaker 1: the regular uh full art basic land sure, and those
Speaker 1: look really cool too. For the record, I like the
Speaker 1: planes from this set a whole lot. The just the
Speaker 1: Dragon's presence. I think they're calling them lad.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's the other basic that's like the
Speaker 3: regular basic right.
Speaker 1: This might make some people in the Nation Nation happy.
Speaker 1: I've been playing Dark Soul three and I just made
Speaker 1: it to the end of the Ringed City DLC and
Speaker 1: where you fight the last boss. It looks just like
Speaker 1: this planes, which I was like, ooh, there's a reference
Speaker 1: I can make and it will make some people happy.
Speaker 3: Have we answered me this, mister, I know everything about
Speaker 3: collecting magic. Oh shit, okay, I put that title on you,
Speaker 3: not you on yourself. You have we done away with
Speaker 3: basic lands that have the text box, and now we
Speaker 3: just have these full arts everything.
Speaker 1: No, alas, alas, we have not. We still do have
Speaker 1: regular basics that will show up in your playboosters and
Speaker 1: in your bundles where you open your thirty basics.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and in pre cons yeah, and in pre
Speaker 2: cons Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 1: Would like it if we could get rid of them.
Speaker 1: I think that would be We're getting close just fine,
Speaker 1: especially in pre cons. Honestly, especially in pre cons.
Speaker 3: You know what I honestly think and check is in
Speaker 3: the mail or builds in the mail WATSA is I
Speaker 3: think in pre cons where you give the full art
Speaker 3: basics that are matched to the theme or the world that
Speaker 3: your commander comes from. I think that's an awesome way
Speaker 3: to build in some coolness, some novelty, some collectibility right
Speaker 3: into the pre con. Agreed, But it's not as exciting
Speaker 3: to do with that way for secondary market retailers, so
Speaker 3: of course they don't do that, even though the art
Speaker 3: that they use is literally the same piece of art,
Speaker 3: except it's chopped in half.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I guess, let me know if
Speaker 2: you agree.
Speaker 3: Last thing, last thing that I want to talk about,
Speaker 3: and we're looking at the collecting tark here dragon storm
Speaker 3: article from watsie, and I really like that they are
Speaker 3: super transparent about exactly what you get in booster packs.
Speaker 3: There's six to seven uncommons, three commons, three uncommons, one
Speaker 3: card of any rarity, one rare or mythic rare, one
Speaker 3: traditional foil of any Rare and one Land and in
Speaker 3: the collector boosters. I'm not going to go through it all,
Speaker 3: but it is exactly exactly what you're going to get
Speaker 3: in each slot.
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like the transparency as well. They've been doing this
Speaker 1: for a little while, and especially now when they have
Speaker 1: how many bonus treatments they have? Like five or six
Speaker 1: with this set? Yes, where the hell do I get these? Like?
Speaker 1: Just tell me I have excitement. I want to use
Speaker 1: my excitement to acquire cards? What do I need to get?
Speaker 1: And they tell you yeah, or you can listen to
Speaker 1: Commander Cookout podcast and will tell you very much. Shall
Speaker 1: we do all the reading in the bullshits? You don't
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 3: When I was working for our when I was working
Speaker 3: retail booth for our friends over at face to face
Speaker 3: games in Edmonton and Toronto and stuff, people come up
Speaker 3: with their price tickets or like actual money and say, hey,
Speaker 3: how do I get this card?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: I want to have a crack at this art treatment?
Speaker 2: How do I do that? Which pack do I get
Speaker 2: to get this?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: I don't have thirty five dollars for a collector booster?
Speaker 3: Can I get this treatment in this pack? I can
Speaker 3: say hey, literally google collecting tark here Dragonstorm, scroll down
Speaker 3: to the bottom. It'll tell you what treatments or which packs.
Speaker 1: If you've listened to Command or Cookout, you'll know that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna say next time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a set Listen, listen to episode four eighty five
Speaker 3: A Commander Cookout and shoot editor Joe a message on
Speaker 3: Twitter or Blue Sky or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and say thank you to him. But then listen
Speaker 2: to the part where we talk about collecting.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 3: Listen to the part where you can hear the guy
Speaker 3: shoveling the sidewalk outside the studio.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm anytime I hear the sound of a shovel shoveling,
Speaker 1: I am happy because that means I don't have to
Speaker 1: do it. Two more quick things we want to do
Speaker 1: before we get out here. I'd like to do. If
Speaker 1: you're going to go to a store pre release this
Speaker 1: is exciting. Keep in mind when you buy your pre
Speaker 1: release kit, unlike previous ones for the last little while,
Speaker 1: you're not just gonna get the pre release kit. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get a clan pre release kit, which is really
Speaker 1: really cool. So in those you're gonna get your regular
Speaker 1: like six packs, five of which are regular. Then you're
Speaker 1: gonna get one like clan themed booster. So if you
Speaker 1: get the Mardo one, you're gonna get some guaranteed Mardo cards,
Speaker 1: which is cool. Your spin down Life Counter is gonna
Speaker 1: be themed to whatever clan you picked. You're promo rare
Speaker 1: the foil one with the date stamp on it that's
Speaker 1: not themed to your pack.
Speaker 2: Can I pushtill plate my deck?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, still play it in your deck, give it
Speaker 1: to your friend. If you're playing two Head a Giant,
Speaker 1: they can play it whatever, but it's not theme to
Speaker 1: the pack that you pick. There's five different clans and
Speaker 1: packs that you can pick from, and then they kind
Speaker 1: of seated a little bit so that you can kind
Speaker 1: of get the experience you're looking for.
Speaker 3: If I want to, which I really appreciate, if I
Speaker 3: get the Teamer Clan pre release pack, I could probably
Speaker 3: make a Teamer deck.
Speaker 1: Yes, if we both got the Teamer Klan booster pack,
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna do very very well. I would imagine
Speaker 1: that the LGS may or may not let you do that.
Speaker 2: Two are the same one.
Speaker 1: We played Two Headed Giant at our LGS, So like
Speaker 1: if we were to both get the same one that
Speaker 1: sets us up for success. Oh yes, Or you get
Speaker 1: one that shares two colors. That's a that's a medium
Speaker 1: amount of success. Well you pick ones have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with each other, then you're in deep shit.
Speaker 3: Each of them have three colors in them and there's
Speaker 3: only five colors total, so they'll share colors no matter
Speaker 3: what we do. Anyways, So yeah, the pre release kits
Speaker 3: there themed. That's cool, very neat, and I wanted to
Speaker 3: go into as long.
Speaker 2: As we have time, produc ser Garrett, what are we are?
Speaker 2: We we gucci? Oh? Perfect?
Speaker 3: I wanted to go in like we normally do, some
Speaker 3: strengths and weaknesses to the product, ye and and kind
Speaker 3: of the final stamp on what we like and.
Speaker 2: What we don't like. Okay, I think the special guests
Speaker 2: are lit.
Speaker 1: I have to agree with you. I have to.
Speaker 3: If if I was a guy and I opened up
Speaker 3: a foil Genesis Ultimatum, I would be pumped cool and
Speaker 3: I played magic for a long ast time.
Speaker 2: If I open up a foil misty rainforest or a
Speaker 2: fricking dragon scale misty, yeah cool.
Speaker 1: The non dragon Scalding Tarn might be one of my
Speaker 1: favorite land arts in the history of magic the game.
Speaker 2: Is that the one with the skinny little tree with
Speaker 2: the twisty Jerry blossoms.
Speaker 1: Grown out of a rock. I fucking love that art.
Speaker 1: That's one of THO was so bad. That's such a
Speaker 1: nice cart.
Speaker 2: Look for that print in Vegas. Will Maybe you'll find
Speaker 2: the print.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll find the print and I'll beat up the
Speaker 1: artist and take.
Speaker 2: It from Oh, well, don't do I would not recommend.
Speaker 1: I't that, okay, Oka, Maybe I'll exchange currency for it.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, we'll just.
Speaker 1: Look at it. Maybe, I don't know, take a picture
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, really dig the full arts and uh.
Speaker 2: And the general vibe of the set.
Speaker 3: The general vibe of the set very high fantasy and
Speaker 3: very dragon esque. We were talking about on the pre
Speaker 3: show yesterday. If I said to a new player, this
Speaker 3: is welcome to Magic the Gathering.
Speaker 2: Play this deck. It's dragons a.
Speaker 3: They would know exactly what the hell I'm talking about,
Speaker 3: and they'd say, oh, yeah, of course it is, because
Speaker 3: it's fantastic. Because it's fantasy, there must be dragons. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'd say, I'm gonna play this elf deck.
Speaker 2: Brando is gonna play goblins and it's and they're going
Speaker 2: to know exactly what's going on. Yep, yep, I like that.
Speaker 1: Like that. Esthetically, this set is very very nice, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this the next couple of the week.
Speaker 1: There's some pretty cool commanders and some really cool cards
Speaker 1: in this set. Yeah, again, not for Brando, but for
Speaker 1: you out there. There's lots of stuff that you're gonna
Speaker 1: want out of this set.
Speaker 3: I promise I'm gonna finish on that one. Don't google that,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go to a weakness real quick. Clan
Speaker 3: cards Esthetically not my favorite. No, they don't translate very well.
Speaker 1: Them existing is the coolest thing, and I'm so happy,
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. Aesthetically they're not very nice.
Speaker 1: They're a little bit of a swing and a miss
Speaker 1: on that one. Maybe if they just made the art
Speaker 1: full and had the smear behind the thing, I don't know, well,
Speaker 1: usually could have salvage them somehow.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're trying to emulate the cards that like the
Speaker 3: watermark in the textbox, Yep, they're trying to riff off
Speaker 3: of that. I think if they took the actual focus
Speaker 3: of the art, like the character that we see and
Speaker 3: kind of pinch so it zooms out, so it's a
Speaker 3: smaller character, so you can see more of the colors.
Speaker 2: Black squas, squatch, swatch, squatch, good words, clan symbol behind them.
Speaker 2: Then it would be better. Sure, So sure, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3: I don't want to dwell too much on the negative.
Speaker 3: And that's such a small gripe from the ten thousand
Speaker 3: foot view that I don't want to spend any more
Speaker 3: time on it. I like, and you're talking about the
Speaker 3: pre cons and cards that you're gonna like. I've looked
Speaker 3: through the list of cards for the pre cons and
Speaker 3: I actually like the manna bases for the precons. We
Speaker 3: got five three color Commander deck pre cons that have
Speaker 3: rare lands in them, Lands that have land types that
Speaker 3: are dual lands, lands that etb untapped lands that if
Speaker 3: we crack you know, because we're buying Turk here, Dragonstorm,
Speaker 3: if we crack fetch lands, we can find our dual
Speaker 3: land type non basics that are in the pre cons.
Speaker 3: Perfect easy way seated cards in the special guest slot
Speaker 3: that go right along with the cards in the pre con.
Speaker 3: I actually love that the manabas is finally good, very good.
Speaker 1: And I was looking through them as well. And there
Speaker 1: are some actual, like pretty good reprints in there too.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like super high value ones, but there's
Speaker 1: some really good ones that are hard to find that
Speaker 1: people want.
Speaker 3: So the cards, yeah, the cards that you say to
Speaker 3: your buddy, hey, do you have an extra one of this?
Speaker 3: And you have three of them that they're all in dex.
Speaker 3: But it's like a three dollars card. I don't want
Speaker 3: to wait to order one from Fusion Gaming Online dot
Speaker 3: Com with CCO holiday Promo.
Speaker 2: Code if it's even only gonna.
Speaker 3: Take two or three days, because they're the fastest shipping
Speaker 3: card store in Canada. Even if it's only gonna take
Speaker 3: three days, if my LGS is having game Day tomorrow,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna have that card. So these pre cons
Speaker 3: are delivering me kind of an influx of all of
Speaker 3: those staple cards that I know I'm gonna want anyways.
Speaker 1: And so and the ten new cards per deck. I
Speaker 1: was looking at some of those. They're very good.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're gon We're gonn talk about those a
Speaker 2: couple weeks.
Speaker 1: We're gona talku those in a couple of weeks. Next week,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a rundown I think we're gonna try
Speaker 1: and do it. People have been saying, why don't you
Speaker 1: do it? We're gonna try and do every single commander
Speaker 1: in the set on the next exciting episode.
Speaker 2: No more editors, limitations, peer beter be to me.
Speaker 1: But now we have to thank you Joe, thank you Gary,
Speaker 1: thanks Ryan and all the listeners. We wouldn't be here
Speaker 1: without any of you guys, and it would be no
Speaker 1: reason for us to be because talking to the blue
Speaker 1: Light would be boring. But knowing you guys are out there,
Speaker 1: it makes it amazing. So thanks for being here, and
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