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Welcome in Thud Lush's haired Lefty. The uh Riley's abs

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is are the best abs in Dyau football history. We

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got Riley Nelson on the line. Riley, does that Twitter

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account still exist?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. They rage quit. Well, what's funny is

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like the person I think made it maybe is a

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little bit of a satire account. And then they got

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mad at me during that twenty twelve season when I

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was playing hurt and they literally did like a rage

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quit sign off, like they gave it up that it

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was tweeting as though it was Riley's abs, and it

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was actually the owner of the County rage quit about

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a fumble or fake that I had, and so it hasn't.

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It literally doesn't have a tweet since like October November

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of twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know when Twitter like how long it accounts

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been dormant, how long they wipe it off. But but

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in real life, I got I got a trip to

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Hawaii coming up in March, so I'm in the middle

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of the little mini cut. Nice the a abs you know,

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are always kind of there, but I don't. I don't

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keep the diet. I got too many kids and too

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much to do. I need to fuel. I need to

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fuel the energy. You know, let the layer. I don't

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let the layer get too thick on it. You can

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always kind of see the outer outlines and stuff. But

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I'm a little mini cut to try and get some

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of the lines down the middle and the cross lines.

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Those are the hardest ones for me. I can't I

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get the one between the normal abs and the oblique.

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But it's the it's the it's the cross lines that

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you know, that's when Riley's ads are really shown out.

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So if we can get that done by the by

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before Mali in March, that'll be good.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're heading out to Maui. Uh you work

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out at home, you got a home gym, you go

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to the local gym, you got a community gym. What

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do you got? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So I mean, for fear of giving away my secret,

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there's a tennis club.

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Speaker 2: Pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: I used to work out just the eos and it's great,

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and I still maintain a membership there. But like tennis

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players don't lift ben but guess what I don't they.

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Speaker 2: I got all the.

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Speaker 4: Equipment, and so they got squat racked, clean rack, they

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got the cross cable. They got dumbells up to I

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wish there was dumbells up to you know, maybe one thirty,

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but they got dumbells up to one hundred. So I

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could get it and by myself. And when there are

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some tennis players in there, you know they're doing some

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rotational stuff and like medball more, but they're not really

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pushing the weight. So it's it's like an own personal

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gym to myself. And then you know, I get the

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I got some cardio equipment at home and some adjustable

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dumbbells when you can't make it to the gym. So

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that's what we're doing to keep the waist side from

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growing these.

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Speaker 1: Days, luscious haired lefty talking workouts and getting ready for

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a Maui trip on jealous of you here on your

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Utah ESPN Radio network, Riley. You know this roster, you

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see it. You've seen what BYU is over the last

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two seasons obviously eleven and two twelve and two great

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seasons back to back. You know how difficult it is

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to win in college football, no matter who is on

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the great art opposite of you, that opposite of that

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line of scrimmage. What does it take? What will it

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take for b with you to get over the hump

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to get into the college football playoff right, to win

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maybe a college football playoff game? Where are where? Where

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are we deficient? When you're looking at the roster and

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what we need to address in the portal?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hard to say deficient, but like, let's look at

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those at the top of the sport, all right, and

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where does their roster or when you watch them play,

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when you watch Indiana and you watch Miami play, and

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Speaker 4: Back to watching BYU play where are we most different?

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And for me, the first place is like pass rushers.

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I thought when we got Jay and even with Kilane,

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and then we got you know, Sionipuula and we got

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like I was, I was waiting for a recreation of

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Sackla like city because I played those Utah teams and

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I know how difficult it makes it on the offense

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when you can rush the passer with four we have

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we just cannot find a pass rusher. I like, have

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we you know, it's it's been years. Tyler Baddy was

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a nice player, but when you watched it, like he

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didn't command. He didn't command the slot, like the slide

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wasn't to him every time. He didn't command chips, he

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didn't command double teams.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 4: He was a nice player, but he wasn't one that

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the offensive line and quarterback were having to account for

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him pro on on obvious passing downs. So to me, like,

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don't get me wrong, we got nasty linebackers and they

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make a lot of plays and all that, but man,

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I would love someone on the edge. And really I'm

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talking the full front four, right, but like that that

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to me, that front four level, but mostly But you know,

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and I think we've been good up the middle. I

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don't I don't see as much deficiency with our our tackles.

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I would love small production over edges. But Ben, you know,

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we we planned a little bit what we were going

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to talk about before that. I'm saying edge what And

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maybe you've talked about this before because I haven't been

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on since the announced Kelly taken over his DC, the

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coaching to be taken over his DC. He played under

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Bronco right three with the three five three or three

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four however you want to give you that, but basically,

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you know the odd man, Yeah, the three four, the

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odd man, the two gap on the D line. But

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then he's been on Ja's hill for or he's been

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on Jay's staff for the last couple of years. What

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do you think Kelly's doing? Do you think you think

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he's going to optimize it to personnel or is he

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most is he a is he a classic three four guy?

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And because we can and because traditionally we've been able

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to recruit productive linebackers more than we've been able to

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recruit elite pass rushers what are we going to see

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at a coach Lapina, Do you have any insight into that?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to always cater to the personnel, right,

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and and the personnel will be dictated by what you

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can recruit and what you can bring into EYU as

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a fit, right, so you have multiple fits. You obviously

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have to qualify as a football player first, but you're

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also having to qualify as you know, honor code, you know,

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a bider. And there's still an academic portion to getting

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into BYU that no one really talks about. People talk about, Oh, well,

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b why he's a private institution, they can bring whoever

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they want. Yeah, but the academic silo of Brigham as

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well as the moral, ethical, theological, honor code component silo

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of b why you still have influence and still can

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can deter and attract players. So to me, you know,

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that's my initial you know, reaction to it. He's going

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to conduct himself in a way that that will will

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maximize the personnel that he can get to b WYU

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and formulate the defense around that. Last year I tallied

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it up, we were uh seventy percent of the time.

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percent of the time we were running thirty front with

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a stand up edge, whether it was jack or noose

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as a two point. Remember, just because you know you

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see a forty front there, but they're not four down linemen.

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You're not seeing a seven tech on either side with

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with rush ends with a hand in there dirt. You're

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seeing Jack Kelly is a stand up outside linebacker on

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the strong side. You're seeing Nucy, Tom Wepey. You stand

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up outside linebacker on the strong side. You know, in

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the traditional three four that we ran six o seven

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through even your era, it was typically typically a stand

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up outside outside linebacker two point off the weak side

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edge right, that's where they would stand up and you

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would rotate your your five tech.

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Speaker 4: Cayle Vanoyd became the greatest, arguably the greatest defensive player

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in history playing that role and using his instant on

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his ability to recav it.

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Speaker 1: So you can kind of mix a match between those.

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But so I've gone off on tangents about this, and

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it may be controversial. I think if Utah fans get

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ahold of it and other people that's like I say,

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you know, what would you know? May be interpreted as controversial,

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but I still think like to get the dogs that

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you want. It's like what Dion Sanders said, what is

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Deon Sanders looking for in defensive ends? What did he say? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: No, he I mean that was quite controversial.

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Speaker 1: Anybody shop enough.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we want to say. I don't

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know that we want to repeat that on that.

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Speaker 1: No, I've I've said it like it's what Dion said

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and we can I can quote him, and so I'm

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willing to go on like he's looking the listeners.

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Speaker 4: Let the listeners do do that on investigation. But yeah,

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it is true. You know, I think there's probably an

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element of truth to what Dion says.

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Speaker 1: So like let me ask you this, how many true

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dogs defensive Lineman did you play with that b yu right?

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And how many of them struggled at BYU right? That

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you know academically and honor code wise dogs?

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Speaker 4: So d Lineman, So not that, but like overall, dog

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we have some dogs and other positions and we don't

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Speaker 1: Bring up yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Struggled like like like the first one comes to mind,

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like you say dog, like dude willing to put his

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body on the line, life on the line. Any guy

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that didn't come from the trigger. By the way, we

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have plenty of r ms like yeah, Danny Thornson, Gerbrena

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are plenty of always, but talking about dudes that don't

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that we're willing to put their body on the line,

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we're dogs. But talking about dudes that don't come from

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that traditional background, they didn't last like whether it was

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like fighting and stuff, or whether it was honor code

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careers there. So you burned up a good point.

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you know, you know, the legal issues that that they

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been retained, they they struggled in all those and they

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found a way. And so I think also the Honor

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probably need a little bit more grace and understanding and

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have perspective of like how they handle honor code violations,

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how they handle certain things right, and uh that the

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negative effects of like you know, kicking people out too

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when they've made mistakes and fallen short. So anyway, that's

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why I'm not everyone else is sold on the forty

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front and you have to have two deep, you have

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to have eight guys that are all typically dogs.

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Speaker 3: Eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when in b YU football history.

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Speaker 4: In South Florida, Yeah, if you're in Coral Gables, you

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can find those dudes and you can and you can

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graduate again. Yeah, I mean I can. I like hearing

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an eight dog, I haven't been able to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a high that's.

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Speaker 4: A high bar to clear. And and by the way,

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we've been able to say, like, okay, so you run

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a three four, Now I gotta find eight at the

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second level. I'd say we can get a lot closer

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to getting eight at that second level, just historically, what

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the caliber player that we've been able to recruit there

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than we have with the dudes in the hand on

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the ground. So you started this with portal, I'll just

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give you my other one just so go ahead. We

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got to go, and we got and I got Junior

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Jazz at five, So we got to leave here a

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little bit. But my team, I mean, we we won.

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We were down sixteen sixteen fourteen in the last three minutes.

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We scored five unanswered points won the game nineteen sixteen.

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So we gotta you want to know, we gotta go

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to and o this this week. But anyway, coming back, dude,

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running back depths. I'm so pumped that LJ came back.

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But like, let's take let's you look at every productive offense.

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they had Swift and the Nun guy and I know

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he just oh shoot Williams.

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Speaker 3: But the dude that had the A C L for

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the for the Seahawks, who was taking.

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Speaker 4: The second is Chary. Yeah, you got Williams and Charmon

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Ay right, Like you look across and everybody shares carries.

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Now everyone carries, and we gotta we gotta find that

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one two punch we anyway, so I was hoping, I'm waiting.

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I don't and I actually don't know if the portals

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closed or whatever, but I would like to see some

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running back depths get built there and then we gotta

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find and maybe maybe it's in the room. I know

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the room. I don't know if he's optimistic about the

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room in the wide receiver, but losing Chase and then

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just overall, like looking across again, who's the best in

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the game. And I'm not saying we're going to be

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able to find a Malachi Tony right or I can't

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remember the kid from Indiana but he was now he's

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more of a possession type guy. But like, we need

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a true number one, and that, to me, that was

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I talked about, Like we haven't had a pass rusher

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that demands the uh, that demands the slide from the

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old line or that the line. We also haven't had

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a wide receiver that defenses has had to account for.

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That safeties and dbs have had to account for since

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Puca so and that's but we've had nice players. We've

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had good players, and I think Parker Keaston like gives

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some fits. But you saw when we kind of leveled

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up against the Texas at the caliber of the Texas

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text which are at the top of our conference, and

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the calibers of defense is playing in the college football

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we don't have that. And then this, I don't know

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if this is so much portal, but it's just as

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I look at the team, like, just where where might

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I be concerned a deficiency might show up? Is losing

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Gennaro's I think a big blow from everything that I

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was able to kind of hear like secure in those

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dv's and I'm glad like to do like Evan Johnson

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some of these others that coming back to be, He's

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glad he's got him in the room. But he had

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that pipeline humming man like for our dB, specifically our cornerbacks.

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I feel like our cornerbacks these last three to four

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years were as solid as ever and it to me

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that allowed our linebackers, Like it allowed Kelly to play

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more free and do all that because he wasn't as

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worried about participating on the back end of the defense.

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Was we were able to be a little bit more

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free and a little bit more aggressive because we could

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really trust those dudes on the side and and do

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all that. And anyway, I was glad to see, you know,

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Gennald maybe didn't get too many of our quarterbacks, or

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if any, I don't think any of them left with him.

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But it's more for me the recruiting going on, going

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the recruiting forward, looking for our cornerback so so used

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Ao as me. I'd love an edge rusher. I want

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to keep our cornerback strong. I'd love to see some

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more RB depth and whatever they got to do where

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it's going out and getting a number one, or if

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they gotta just packed that wide receiver room hoping that

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a true wide receiver one emerges. Those are my main

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position groups that I'm looking position groups of interest following

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this season heading into next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at last year what we lost right

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and the impact that some of those losses made. And

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obviously Keelan is the highlighted one and Loy he could

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have done his wide receiver one at b YU. That

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was a devastating blow. Like if you wanted to win

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a Big twelve championship, you needed Keelan Marion doing your

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kickoff returns and being wide receiver one. I mean, let's

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be honest. He could have been awesome for BYU and

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that could have been the difference between BYU. Could could

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Keelan Marin had been the difference in your opinion to

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getting you know, you think that you were still too

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far away. Yeah, I mean he's a number one at

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b YU. He's a number one at b YU, and

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he became a number one at times in Miami. I know,

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Malachi Tony got a lot of test targets.

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Speaker 4: Then to me, that's settling, Like and I say that

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to say that, like, look, Keeman made some nice plays.

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We had a couple of nice catches against who they

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beating the against the Oregon and all that, but like

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you want to know, you want to know how you

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know a number one. Whenever Keelan was the least bit

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challenge or that there was, there was like a And

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I'm not this is just what I'm saying objectively. It

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is not him personal or whatever, but just as a

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football player, like how many contesting catches did that to

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come out with? And gotta have a situation down to that.

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Everyone's like, oh, he got a nice game in the semifinals,

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yeah when the game.

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Speaker 1: Was He's a He's a vertical threat, not a jumpall threat.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, like contested catches A number one.

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First of all, he gets open in the curl flat zones.

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He number one is able to manipulate zone, find space

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over the middle. A number one beats his cornerback. Yeah,

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he's a vertical threat. But then he snaps it off

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and you can throw the comeback to him on third

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and twelve or fifteen yards, Heil and Maren can run

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down the field, and essentially it was if he creates separation,

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will catch it for a big play. If he doesn't

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it and contested, you can see it in his eyes.

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He's hoping for a p He's hoping for a PI

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we have had. I'll tell you what Cody Hoffmann. Cody

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hoff was able to make plays down the field even

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though he wasn't a fourth dude. Like that's that's a

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true number one, Austin Colly, true number one, like Pukaakua,

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true number one. And I loved what they did with Pooka,

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Like like Austin and and Cody were on the outside Pooka.

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I loved it.

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Speaker 1: What Aaron.

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Speaker 4: We got to see a true number one in Aaron's

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they did honestly, Like I think the rams were just like,

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love what this Robert guy's doing. Let's do the same thing.

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They got him on fly sweeps. They're moving him into

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the slot, he's lined up outside one on one. They're

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doing all that kind of stuff. And look, I just

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mentioned each one of those dudes. It's if you kind

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of even it out. I mentioned Austin, Austin, Cody, and Pooka.

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That's about one every seven years. Pooka when did he

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leave twenty twenty oh twenty two, So it's more recent

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than I thought. But we're we're coming up. We're probably

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due for our next one. And let's be honest, we're

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gonna level up in our recruiting. Rather than finding one

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every seven years, we should find one, hopefully every four

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or five. And so a big long rant. No, I

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will not concede that Keela Marion was would have been.

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That would have been the difference for us. It's nice

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to have a guy that takes the top off thring,

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but like, okay, what if you're facing two like in

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the NFL. What if Texas Tech who would have been

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fully capable of staying in a two shell limiting our

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run game? And so now you're not going to take

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the top off a two deep shell. Now, what does

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Keela Marion do? Is how good is he manipulating the

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zone and finding space given his quarterback space and in

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a post curl you know.

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Speaker 1: Was Darius Lassiter or a wide receiver one if we

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could have got as Juco year bag I was.

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Speaker 4: I was more of the three of Marion, Jojo and

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ke and Lassiter I was most but even lasser Was

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would show up in some When he would show up,

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he was really impressive and encouraging, but then he would

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just disappear for others.

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Speaker 3: But so this goes back.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the dude's in the room already, but I haven't

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seen much wide receiver movement in the portal. I'd love

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to go out and get one that we got film

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on we know is a proven commodity. But if we

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can't get that, I'd least like get another couple of

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dudes who are going to compete and hopefully emerge.

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought the most underrated transportal loss was

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from last year. I actually thought Miles Davis was a

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bit underrated. In his senior season at Utah State, had

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seven or thirty one total rushing yards five point six

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yards per carry, eight rushing touchdowns. He had an additional

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two hundred and one total receiving yards at seven point

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two yards per reception and three receiving touchdowns. Thought he

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could have been a good RB two for b YU

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behind LJ. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I would have loved to be able to hold on

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to him. I will say a couple of caveats there,

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Dan and.

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Speaker 1: I I'm not Yeah, you got to see him at

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the Cash Valley You're a cash Valley kid.

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Speaker 4: As everyone knows, I support my coach. You know, I'm

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a Logan boy, and when Bronco got up there, I

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went back all in. I'm a season ticket older up

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there as along with being a season ticket older down

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in Provo.

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Speaker 1: But so we were.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was up in Logan whenever there wasn't

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a game of Provo. My and I love Miles. I

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got to know Miles a lot. He and I shared

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the same scholarship donor. We've had multiple dinners together. He's

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come over hung out of my house like Miles. Well,

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I will, I will do anything for Miles, but I

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will just say I think the move down to the

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G five, I've helped his production a little bit. I don't. Yeah,

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just and bro watching him, you took that same athlete.

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There was just that much more space. You kind of

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had that much more cushion, that much more forgiving. You know,

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the cutback on his own can be made that half

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count a little bit later, but you can still hit

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it right versus when you're playing the top of the

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Big twelve. Unless unless you anticipate that backside a gap

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opening up, there's no way you're getting it if you

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see by the time if you see the backside a

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gap or even the front side b if you see

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it open and you're not already there one step away,

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it's going to be closed by the time you get there,

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sort of a thing. And then and then the second

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thing I'll say is, you know, I thought mcgiven it

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was a little bit more open, they created more space

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up there. I think it had to do with barns

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and barns and skill set and kind of the personnel

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that they had. But they knew they couldn't line up

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and beat people like BYU has been able to do

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in the run game. You know, think about that Cincinnati game.

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They were a little bit more in space. So two

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things the move tot G five I think helping the

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and I think being in a in an offense where

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you're running more in space versus an offense against b

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YU where it's more dependent upon the front. You know,

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the offensive fronts, physicality and your ability to anticipate reads

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and make uh and meet and make great cuts a

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couple of things there. But bro I would have loved

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to have, I mean, would have killed to have miles

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for RB depth right, which is another aspect that I

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talked about or did I hope to see they go

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out and do in the portal addressing.

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Speaker 1: The portal, No doubt about it. A couple last things, Riley,

483
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as you've got things to do, people to see, places

484
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to go, et cetera. We appreciate you hopping on for

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a little keeping up with the cougar segment brought to

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you by Odion Men's where Odion Menswear dot Com. Uh,

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BYU football in a great spot right now. Obviously there's

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there's things to be things to be done in order

489
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to take that next step. But I mean the retention

490
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was pretty pretty crazy. Like you no impactful transfers, you

491
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would say, And uh, even though you lose coach g

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and coach Jay Hill, you you retained much of your

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coaching staff as well. Yeah, I mean I.

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Speaker 4: Feel chiefish and I mean, but we've got to fill

495
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the air man, you know what I'm saying. So y,

496
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I gotta come, I gotta come up with thoughts and

497
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I got to their opinions that that the you know,

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to fill the airwaves with the reality is, how do

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you really how do you in how do you in

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good conscience? As a if you're truly a ball Knower.

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How do you criticize anything that they're.

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Speaker 1: Doing down there?

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Speaker 4: I mean, so I want everything that we've just talked

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about over the last fifteen minutes, though those are like

505
00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:40,759
more wishless items, they are not They are not criticisms

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because the program is an is an utterly great spot.

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I mean everything about Colient Satalk and his leadership and

508
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the culture that he's created both with both amongst his

509
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staff and amongst his players, like you cannot find better.

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Everyone wants to talk about Signetti.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, bro, Like I love, I kind of

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love his stick, and he's unhappy, he's kinds of grumpy

514
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old man, but he just gets it done. But like,

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for I got a feeling like Signetti, the second thing

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turns south, the crew might turn on it. You know,

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they might have a mutiny on his hands a little bit.

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I'm not I don't know if that's true, but like

519
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he's hopped around so much, I don't know. Kilanie is

520
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we are set with Kilani and with Papinga at the

521
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and then Papinga and Roderick at the two coordinators, and

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then all that's supposed to support staff and longtime supports

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staff like Sessi and Harve and you know, all these

524
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dudes like there were set up for the next.

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Speaker 3: Decade plus, if not more, with this staff.

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Speaker 4: So I couldn't be more pleased about more proud to

527
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be a Cougar, and more pleased with all the efforts

528
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from from everybody down there, both players and coaches. And

529
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like we talked about the wistlers, let's go to the

530
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flip side. Like bear Bachmer, I think unquestioned the best

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freshman quarterback, you know, other hundred people are going to

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be the press because you know, unfortunately plays at BYU,

533
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maybe wears a weird number or whatever. He's just not

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as flat she but or he might not be the

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punin's favorite guy. But like best freshman quarterback in the year,

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the offensive conference player of the year returning back on

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the roster, you got glasterback who's an impact player. You

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got Evan Johnson coming back, Like I mean, expectations should

539
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be conference championship or bust. And like, man, if you

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would have if you would have told that to me

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back when I was calling radio in twenty twenty, I

542
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would have been like, wait, we're gonna go P five

543
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and within three years we're gonna be a perennial conference

544
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contender by retaining our roster in an age of nil

545
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where everybody's going to the highest bidder. I would have

546
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called you crazy, but that is the reality facing this

547
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,039
PAU program right now. So it's a great time to

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be a cougar.

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Speaker 1: Who's got the better scal Who's the better grumpy head coach?

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Kirk Sidnetti or broncoman at Hall?

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Speaker 4: A great question, Ben Can I tell you? I think

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it's Bronco because Bronco never gave you anything, never gave

553
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you anything. Bro Signetti will give you a smirk here

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or there, and he might give someone a Bronco was

555
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nothing now late in his career, like the first time,

556
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,519
I'll never forget. I was like, Man, Bronco's changing was Nebraska,

557
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Mitch catches that ball in the oh yeah, and you

558
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running around with his hands up. I thought he was

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gonna rip off his shirt but anyway, but no, he

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goes to Bronco.

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Speaker 1: Bro Bronco the best grumpy coach in college football. Love

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Bronco always business Baby, Appreciate you, Riley. We'll catch up

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again soon, Man, Thanks for hopping off.

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Speaker 4: Always a pleasure. Talk soon.

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of the Daily herald The Daily Heralding. What's up? Daily

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Heraldian double d? How are you, sir?

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getting his jersey retired. We were headed down that Saturday,

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his career, we're gonna miss out on one day. It's

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Speaker 2: Training to do to keep up with my wife as

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we're hiking down there. So let's get this going.

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Speaker 2: Totally see that now that you pointed out to me.

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But yeah, it's it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, that's why you should skip the mouse, skip the lines,

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and hit on down to Bryce Canyon and Ruby's in Darnell.

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What have you been working out over at the Daily

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Herald recently?

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Speaker 2: A lot from about basketball? You know, b Yu it's

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first lost in about thirteen games at Texas Tech. But

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you know, I often wonder with coaches, you know, they

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talk about a guy to see the film, I wonder,

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And we haven't been able to talk to Kevin Young

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since he that game, but I just wonder does he

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feel like defensively they could have done more? Or was

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that just a case of a team going instaneling hot?

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Because after b why you took that nine point lead?

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Texas Tech made seven straight shots, including three or three

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or four three I think four three's one of them

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a bank by JT. Topp and their center from the

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top of the key, and then they were at fourteen

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or fifteen from the free throw line, so practically perfect

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in that game. I don't know much that b why

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you could have done much at the end there, but

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it is a loss and they've had a gun. I

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have a week to kind of stew on it before

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they take on Utah on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: What did you think? Did you think that there was

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some frailty in the defense? Do you feel like Texas

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or do you feel like just Texas Tech just got hot.

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Speaker 2: I do think Texas Tech got hot, but I also

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think that there was a little bit of fatigue on

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Dyu's defensive end. Towards the end of that game, they

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lost a little momentum because you know, they they they

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were up nine and then Rob Wright had to go

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out because he had hurt his pinky and he was

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tearing up Texas Tech at that point, So they lost

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that little bit of momentum, but they could never get

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it back. And you know, this is not last year's

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team that was eleven deep. This is a team that

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the starting five gets almost all the minutes and then

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kind of depends on who shows up off the bench,

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and it's varied from week to week how much time

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guys have been getting There's been some good moments from

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the bench guys, just not enough of them. And really,

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I'm not sure if there's much Kevin Young could have

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done down the stretch of that game because Texas Tech

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was just on fire. They're at home, their capacity crowd,

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just riding that wave, and you know, you certainly want

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to look at the film and say, yeah, we could

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have defended that way better, We could have done that better.

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But when when the six to ninth center who has

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been shooting about, you know, twenty percent from three makes

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three or four including a banker, it just might not

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be your day. And that's probably more of it than

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anything else. It was just test his Tech getting crazy

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good and BYU was a little fatigued and couldn't quite

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match it.

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Speaker 1: Double D. Are you concerned that this BYU basketball team

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can't keep the pace that they've been they've been playing at.

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How do you feel right now about this team?

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Speaker 2: I feel probably a little bit like I felt last

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year after the slow start in Big Twelve play. But

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Kevin Young got it figured out, and we all think

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he's a really good coach, so I think he'll figure

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it out. They've had a chance to take a breath

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here this week and kind of work on some things

710
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,079
before they played Utah on Saturday. I would expect a

711
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,000
much better performance consistently through forty minutes, and Ken Young

712
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,680
mentioned that a couple of times in the post game

713
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:49,119
was to win some of these games on the road

714
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:51,039
against really good teams, you've got to play really good

715
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,759
forty minutes. And they played about thirty two good minutes

716
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,039
and then things got away from them. So lots of

717
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,880
things for them to work on. And you know, they're

718
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:03,480
defense at times looks really good. Their offense with the

719
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:06,960
big three can be overwhelming. But they just want to

720
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,160
be able to do both those sides more consistently. And

721
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,839
that's what they're going to be working on, and I

722
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:14,640
believe Kevin Young will get it figured out and we'll

723
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,839
get a strong finish by the couiters.

724
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: Tarnold Dixon, The Daily Heraldi and talking to some BAU

725
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:24,839
basketball here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. So what

726
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,359
would you say right now is the biggest issue ailing

727
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:30,480
BAU basketball.

728
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if you say they're ailing and they just

729
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,279
lost one game, that's not like.

730
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:39,599
Speaker 1: A what are they missing? All right?

731
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: No?

732
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,519
Speaker 4: No, no, hey, this is a one not a need Okay, okay, okay.

733
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:45,839
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a one, not a eight. What is

734
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,559
it that was going to take them from Sweet sixteen

735
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,240
to Final four type of team? What are we missing?

736
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:56,559
Speaker 2: I think what we're missing right now is consistency from

737
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,319
the guys who aren't the big three. And you know,

738
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,599
I hate to pick on specific players, but Cannard Davis

739
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,119
has not figured out his role on this team yet.

740
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,840
And to me, he's kind of like what what Meg

741
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,239
would be if he decided he was a shooter and

742
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,079
wanted to score. Because Davis is having a really hard

743
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,119
time putting the ball in the basket. He's under thirty

744
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,920
percent from three. He was zero for five or oh

745
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,239
for six in that game on Saturday. He can play defense,

746
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,239
I think he's pretty good at that, but when you

747
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,519
are struggling offensively and you kind of use that as

748
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:34,119
your identity, that can affect both ends of the floor.

749
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,760
So I think Cannard Davis has to figure out what

750
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,840
he wants to do for this team. Does he want

751
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,800
to be a guy that's the fourth scorer and the

752
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,239
big three in front of him, or does he want

753
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,400
to be a contributor defensively and take those open shots

754
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,119
when they get him, because as much as the defense

755
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,519
has to focus on the big three, there's open shots there.

756
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,199
And what they're missing right now is guys who can

757
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,440
consistently make the defense pay for their commitment to those

758
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:04,400
those top three players. And they've tried a lot of

759
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,400
different combinations. You know, I said several times in that game, Boy,

760
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,679
this would be a good time for them to have

761
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,840
someone like Dawson Baker. They could bring in who was

762
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,639
shooting about forty five percent from the field and forty

763
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,800
eight percent three when he got hurt. That really changes

764
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,760
things up for the defense when they have to worry

765
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,519
about somebody hitting open shot, and right now they don't

766
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:28,280
have anybody that's doing that consistently, and that is a problem.

767
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,639
And so if you're asking me that, that's what I

768
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,880
think is what they're missing right now to become a

769
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,199
team that can go deep into the tournament is just

770
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,239
more consistency from those guys coming off the bench.

771
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:44,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd like to see that. You'd like to see

772
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:48,559
some bench scoring and bench productivity, no doubt about it.

773
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,760
Don't now as we get prepped, we get ready for

774
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:55,480
the I mean, the big game on the docket right

775
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:57,039
now is that U of A game, all right, it's

776
00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:00,360
going to be electric. It's all all sit are a

777
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,239
tone where all losses are a ton force. You can

778
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,519
beat U of A at home, right, oh for sure.

779
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:10,199
Speaker 2: And that Arizona team, it's interesting because they were pretty

780
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,920
good last year, had double digit losses, so they lost

781
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,280
some games early in the season, but they got a

782
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,360
really high seed in the tournament. They lost some guys

783
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,400
to graduation as well as guys who transferred, and I

784
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,440
think they're much better this year. They just seem to

785
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:27,719
be more dynamic. They've got a couple of freshmen that

786
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,000
are really good, and they were able to just put

787
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:33,760
together these great runs. They're really good basketball teams, so

788
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,599
that's going to be a big deal for BYU to

789
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:38,840
be able to play them at home first. And last

790
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,519
year we saw Arizona come into Provo and beat b

791
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,400
YU and then b YU went on the road and

792
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,679
beat the Wildcats at their place. So it's starting to

793
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,039
be a pretty good rivalry in this league. And I'm

794
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:52,639
really looking forward to that game. The Marriott centers should

795
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:53,960
be jumping, no.

796
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: Doubt about it. Double D. I know you've been talking

797
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,639
a lot of hoop recently, but football in the transfer

798
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,599
portal and the college Football Playoff in the College Football

799
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:10,519
Championship is done. Does now you're the you're kind of

800
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:14,400
my my prototype for the old curmudgeon that that wants

801
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,039
to go back to the past right and do away

802
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:20,800
with nil and transferportal? But does is there any solace

803
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,519
given the fact that Indiana, the losing his team in

804
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:29,440
college football became the national champion this year in the

805
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,679
current state that everyone says is broken.

806
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:36,079
Speaker 2: Well, we'd have to kind of have a little bit more,

807
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:39,639
you know, some a little bit a few more years

808
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,079
of this happening. I think, okay, because the data point

809
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,320
is pretty small. It's just one team that did it.

810
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's the losing his power for it's

811
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,800
the losing his power conference team ever in one hundred years,

812
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,360
Like they had not had a ten win season and

813
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,360
they just won the national championship.

814
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: They had as many wins against top twenty five competition

815
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:09,239
this year and they've had in their entire existence. It's nuts,

816
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,440
And certainly I think coaches and programs can look at

817
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,320
that and say, hey, that could be us. So you know,

818
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,239
it happened once. Empirically, we don't know if it's going

819
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,360
to happen again. Maybe maybe the big wigs get it

820
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,920
figured out and get their money straightened out and go

821
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,840
out and buy a championship in Indiana did their own

822
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,599
thing and created it their own way, and it's a

823
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,280
pretty amazing feat. But I also look at it, you know, well,

824
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,519
I'm sure we're going to talk about the schedule in

825
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:42,559
this conversation, But as I look at the schedule and

826
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,239
we try to predict what's going to happen, then I

827
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,400
have hard enough time predicting what BOYU is going to do.

828
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,760
Let alone the twelve opponents they're going to play, and

829
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,480
with nil and the transfer port. That makes it even

830
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:56,000
more difficult because we looked at this last year's schedule

831
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:57,880
and thought, well, there's a five game stretch there that

832
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,760
could really be BYU's undoing. Why you went four and

833
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,800
one on that stretch. This year, we're looking at it

834
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,400
and saying, boy, that TCU, Iowa State and Notre Dame.

835
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,800
Boy those three games, who knows. I mean, you just

836
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,519
don't know from year to year anymore. It's becoming increasingly

837
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,239
more difficult to predict how your opponents will do based

838
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,000
on the fact they can turn it around so quickly.

839
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,639
As we just saw with Indiana. That's where I'll tie

840
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,519
that in is that you know, from year to year

841
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,159
you may you have a harder time figuring out if

842
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,280
a team is going to be good or not. And

843
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,559
so as we look at BYU schedule and we look

844
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:36,519
at college football as a whole, you know, the AP

845
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,039
votes that go out and I've been an AP voter,

846
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:43,719
it makes it increasingly difficult every year to figure out

847
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,480
who's going to be really good, who's going to find

848
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,480
that magic formula of returners and new guys and fill

849
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:52,519
those positions and pay them the right amount of money

850
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,159
where they're not looking elsewhere. As soon as they get

851
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,800
a little bit of adversity, who puts that together the best?

852
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,840
And sometimes it's difficult to predict not I don't think

853
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,039
anyone would have predicted Indiana would be able to do that,

854
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,440
even after last year when they when they won a

855
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,320
bowl game. So that's what I'm looking at as your

856
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,320
old curmudgeon. That becoming increasingly more difficult to be an

857
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,239
expert in it because things change from year to years

858
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,719
so fast.

859
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: I get it. I did that. Does that data point though,

860
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,159
kind of like you know, does it make you it

861
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,440
all optimistic though or not. It's still kind of curmudgety here. Yeah,

862
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:33,159
one data point doesn't make that's not good enough.

863
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:39,199
Speaker 2: I still I still think that looking down the road,

864
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,320
there are issues and problems that that could could wear

865
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,480
the ugly head and cause submission. We know, right now

866
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:48,960
college football is more popular than it's ever been. The

867
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,960
numbers are up and viewing, the numbers are up and spending.

868
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:55,599
It's really popular right now. Is it sustainable? That's I

869
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:59,599
guess my most curmudgety take is ten years from now,

870
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:01,559
what are we looking at for college football? Is it

871
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:03,480
just going to be a minor league for the NFL?

872
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,079
Is it going to be you know, employees? I mean,

873
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,760
are the bowl games going to be gone? Possibly? I mean,

874
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,000
we don't know the future, but I just feel like

875
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:16,840
a lot of the decisions that are being made are great,

876
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:19,079
maybe for the short term, but not for the long term.

877
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:21,719
And we'll see, and we'll see if I survive long

878
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,280
enough to view it.

879
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Who knows You're going to survive many years from from now, Darnell,

880
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,719
You're going to live to the riple age of one

881
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,159
hundred to see by you finally win a second national championship.

882
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,239
How far away are they from doing such? Darnell. They

883
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,599
retained their roster, they retain most of their coaches, They've

884
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:44,000
acquired some good players in the portal. How far away

885
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,559
are they? What positions are they are they in need of?

886
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,519
What talent are they in need of? In order to

887
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:50,159
get over the hump?

888
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,639
Speaker 2: Well, if we believe the one data point we just

889
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:56,480
talked about, it could be next year. Ben, you know

890
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,320
what I mean. I feel like they've done a pretty

891
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,480
good job of filling in some holes that they need

892
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,920
and the coaches know better than anyone who among the

893
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:09,880
returners are ready to take the next step up, Whether

894
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,920
it be somebody that was a scout team that's going

895
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,159
to be a backup, whether somebody was a backup it's

896
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:17,440
going to be a starter. A starter is going to

897
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,480
be a star. They know those situations the best. And

898
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,079
if you retain and your goals to retain those guys

899
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:29,559
you've been working with, you want that to benefit you

900
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:31,519
the next year. And the way that benefits you is

901
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:34,840
they know what they're doing, they're confident, they fill their

902
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,519
roles well, and they want to be there. I mean,

903
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:41,480
that's a big deal. I think in today's college sports

904
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:44,280
is do they want to be there, and if they

905
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,159
have a little adversity, does that make them start get

906
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:50,199
a wandering eye right away? I mean, you know, a

907
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,400
month into the season, if things aren't going exactly the

908
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,440
way I did, go on, gosh, I'm looking where could

909
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,440
I go? You know that you wonder about that, And

910
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,280
I think BYU is doing their best to create an

911
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,800
environment that everyone feels that they're getting their best shot

912
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,039
and part of a family and all that stuff. And

913
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:11,719
so as you look at what comes up next season

914
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,320
with a quarterback and a running back coming back that

915
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,320
are really good and defensive players, you know, great transferred

916
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,280
portal hall so far the linebacker spot, they're putting themselves

917
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,920
in a good position to have an under great year.

918
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,000
But we saw last year and last season anyway, it

919
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,360
hasn't even been a year yet, but even an eleven

920
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,360
to one record didn't get BYU into the football playoffs.

921
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,559
You know, they were eleven to one going into the

922
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,599
Big twelve championship game, and a lot of situations teams

923
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:42,519
like that don't get punished for losing that game and

924
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,519
they get in b why you didn't, So it almost

925
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:48,800
seems like they still have to go undeceeated in order

926
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,360
to get into the playoffs. Can they do that? Sure,

927
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,360
it's not easy to do. And you would expect after

928
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,440
getting into a power conference that there would be a

929
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,840
little bit more lee way. And apparently there's just one

930
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,880
game different where maybe eleven and one gets you in

931
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,039
this year if you beat Notre Dame, maybe that's the

932
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:09,119
one that puts them over the top. On October seventeenth

933
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:12,280
of twenty twenty six, they win that game into that

934
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,800
puts them in if they're eleven and one. But I

935
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,320
think they're putting together good pieces and they proved that

936
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,280
the system works. They've got to have some adjustment period

937
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,800
to Jay Hill leaving and General Guilfer leaving. The brought

938
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,679
in coaches to get that started. And Kaalika Finga knows

939
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,400
this defense well. Does he know how to inspire the troops?

940
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,679
I think so. Does he know how to make those

941
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,320
halftime adjustments and in game adjustments that I think Jay

942
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Hill did really well with. We'll see.

943
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: So I just came upon this real quick. Kirk Signetti

944
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:50,559
was one of the voters in the Coaches pulled the

945
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:53,079
season and this is his final top twenty five ballot.

946
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:58,719
Indian obviously number one, Miami, number two, Oregon three, Mississippi

947
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o miss for State, five, Georgia six, Notre Dame seven,

948
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:06,039
Texas eight, Texas A and M nine, Texas Tech ten,

949
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,920
Iowa nine and four. Iowa is eleven nearly beat the

950
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Hoosiers back in September ranked them an eleventh to this poll.

951
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,480
Alabama twelve, Oklahoma thirteen, Brigham Young fourteen. That's where he's

952
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,360
got in Utah at fifteen. Your reaction to the news

953
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,360
that Bulus is actually the fourteenth ranked team per the

954
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,440
National Championship, He.

955
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:32,599
Speaker 2: Go, I mean, he's going definitely on what he saw

956
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:38,239
on the field. Talking about the Iowa game, I think

957
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,719
that by us a top ten team, and I think

958
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,320
they should be a top ten or fifteen team going

959
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,760
into next year. And we know how important that is

960
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,239
in terms of being able to move up once you

961
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,679
start winning, unless there's a big offseason issue like there

962
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,480
was last year with b what you're losing its quarterback.

963
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,119
They should be a top ten or fifteen team heading

964
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:04,159
into too twenty twenty six. So that puts them in

965
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,320
a position where if they win their games, they're going

966
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,920
to get in. And so you know, I this season's over.

967
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:12,719
They did the best they could. Have a hard time

968
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,559
with Texas Tech, which laid a big egg in the

969
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,000
playoffs unfortunately. So it doesn't even look good to me

970
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,199
why you lost to them now, But we're moving on

971
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:26,119
and the Cougars are getting prepared. They're they're working out

972
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:30,159
right now doing conditioning with the strength and conditioning staff,

973
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,760
and in a month or so we'll have them checking

974
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,320
in for spring football. And there we go.

975
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: Love you, double D. Always a pleasure talking ball with you.

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We invite everyone to follow you on x and read

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