Speaker 1: Please introduce yourself to Private talk.
Speaker 2: Well, my name is Keith Berry and basically this is
Speaker 2: our first time meeting, so yes, happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very exciting. I'm an MMA fighter and also
Speaker 2: NFT enthusiast.
Speaker 1: Love it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm big in digital marketing all that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. Yeah, it feels weird talking about myself a
Speaker 2: big stoner, really into the weed industry and cannabis. So
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: Luckily, you know, well hopefully you smoke before because unfortunately
Speaker 1: we can't smoke this time in the podcast room, but
Speaker 1: normally we do, so you know, that's normally our thing.
Speaker 1: But you know, this season we're moving around a little bit,
Speaker 1: so we have the respect of other people's rules. But
Speaker 1: I would have been sharing, you know, a joint with
Speaker 1: you blend whatever in your preference.
Speaker 2: Joints for sure, joints joints.
Speaker 1: Man, So, have you always been into the cannabis area.
Speaker 1: Is it something that you just recently got into?
Speaker 2: It was probably right before COVID, probably twenty nineteen. It
Speaker 2: was actually funny. A friend from high school. He was like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: a guy that never smokes, kind of.
Speaker 1: Like what they call a chad Okay, what is a chad.
Speaker 2: Chad is like it's a person that's coming into the
Speaker 2: weed industry that doesn't really a familiar with the culture
Speaker 2: of weed, but they're coming in kind of for the money, right,
Speaker 2: just to kind of make a profit. So he was
Speaker 2: kind of a Chad in high school, never smoked, didn't
Speaker 2: know anything about the weed culture. Brought me on as
Speaker 2: like a sales manager, and yeah, I learned from twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen to probably twenty twenty two about and yeah, I
Speaker 2: learned a lot in the cannabis industry and being a stoner.
Speaker 2: It was like a lot of fun. I was definitely
Speaker 2: the test dummy and the guinea pig for a lot
Speaker 2: of sure.
Speaker 1: That was fun. Oh yeah, a lot of high nights.
Speaker 2: Very very I mean, the body is crazy because cannabis.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that you could absorb it through your skin.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if I really thought about it,
Speaker 2: you can. You could absorb other things of your skin.
Speaker 2: But I've gotten a couple high a couple of times.
Speaker 1: The chemists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the chemist would be like, Okay, don't touch this.
Speaker 2: I seriously almost like daring me too, you know, and
Speaker 2: you're like what this I'm like I'm just going to
Speaker 2: get really high if I touched this, so I would
Speaker 2: do it. And then yeah, I ended up just like
Speaker 2: comotoast on the ground like I can't even explain it
Speaker 2: out of it. Yeah, and the whole time thinking I'm
Speaker 2: gonna die, but I know that you're not going to die.
Speaker 2: It's just like a thing really.
Speaker 1: Over annoyed or paranoid.
Speaker 2: So I survived.
Speaker 1: So do you think that you know, you having a
Speaker 1: fighting background, do you think that the benefits of CBD
Speaker 1: and THHD is beneficial in that area as well, or
Speaker 1: do you think that you know, the drug testing for
Speaker 1: that is should be in protocol or do you think
Speaker 1: that it should be lifted.
Speaker 2: No, it's the World Doping Agency and also California Athletic Commission,
Speaker 2: Nevada State Athletic Commission, all the big commissions. CBD is
Speaker 2: totally illegal even THHC in California and Nevada. But you
Speaker 2: can only have a certain amount of metabolites. So basically
Speaker 2: you just can't smoke right before the fight. I can't
Speaker 2: be a higher in the fight. They don't want that,
Speaker 2: but they they're all for it for you know, recovery,
Speaker 2: for just was.
Speaker 1: It something in your regimen that while you were fighting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that you practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, smoking weed?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, because some people before back then, you know,
Speaker 1: it was like very tabooed as you know, to admit
Speaker 1: to those things. But again, like more and more the
Speaker 1: rules are being lifted and being you know, the seeing
Speaker 1: the effects from even like the positive sides of your
Speaker 1: body and the recovery things. You know. So it's like,
Speaker 1: was it something that you you know, being the po
Speaker 1: headstone or that you were before. Is it something that
Speaker 1: you already dabbled in so you knew that those things
Speaker 1: and you just kind of did it yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's I got some injuries over
Speaker 2: time when I was like I'm thirty five now, so
Speaker 2: about ten years ago when I was like really actively fighting,
Speaker 2: I got some injuries and they would always prescribe me
Speaker 2: like pain medicine and stuff. But that like during when
Speaker 2: you're training for fights, it makes you like constipated all
Speaker 2: these different things. It fucks with your hormone. So I
Speaker 2: was kind of against it, and then I had to
Speaker 2: kind of scare with weed when I was young, and
Speaker 2: I didn't want to mess with But then I came
Speaker 2: back to it. I'm like, you know let me try
Speaker 2: an edible, let me test the waters, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: started liking it.
Speaker 1: Is it something that you have in your everyday life now?
Speaker 1: Because the wor you do? So how many times do
Speaker 1: you would do you more smoke things? Or do you
Speaker 1: are you an edible person or the topicals?
Speaker 2: No? I do. So I have a CVD cream that
Speaker 2: so Elite Garden is my company, Elite Garden CBD and
Speaker 2: so I use they have like a I got to
Speaker 2: give you something. It's like a tiger bomb and like
Speaker 2: any bumps bruises way better than adavill anything like pain relief,
Speaker 2: but it will really help. Like so like whenever I
Speaker 2: have something that's bothering my low back sometimes bugs me
Speaker 2: or something with my legs, then that's like the perfect
Speaker 2: thing to you is aw But I still I smoke
Speaker 2: cannabis daily. You know, I smoke out of a bong
Speaker 2: and I also smoke well, I do these spaces and friends,
Speaker 2: you see me on the space as I take a
Speaker 2: bong rip. People in crypto and NFTs love weed. So
Speaker 2: like when I came into the NFT industry, they.
Speaker 1: Were like, oh, we love this guy, excepting yeah.
Speaker 2: Fighter, he likes weed, likes crypto.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I feel like in a sense it kind
Speaker 1: of go hand in hand with when of those things,
Speaker 1: when the things that are so complex or whatever, you
Speaker 1: need something to kind of like, you know, just ease
Speaker 1: your sale into it. Like myself is like I have
Speaker 1: high anxiety, but I don't something that likes to take
Speaker 1: pills or anything like that. So I've smoked weed throughout
Speaker 1: my career. So it's like because it's just I can
Speaker 1: control when I want to stop, you know, do things.
Speaker 1: And then as things advance more in time, like you said,
Speaker 1: like the topical things, when I danced in those things
Speaker 1: at the time, I would use those for my body
Speaker 1: and it was just such like a pleasure to have
Speaker 1: not to take a bunch of ibuprofen or all these
Speaker 1: things that really kind of just like muted the situation
Speaker 1: but didn't help the situation. So I think that it's
Speaker 1: really cool more people like yourself are getting you know,
Speaker 1: all these companies from CBD and kind of really tapping
Speaker 1: into the educational part of it and also like showing
Speaker 1: that you can have athletes have it and every day
Speaker 1: people have it, and you know nowadays, you know, in Vegas,
Speaker 1: we had the show sponsored or my podcast sponsored in
Speaker 1: Vegas in January, and they talked about the whole like
Speaker 1: educational purpose that where it's like even elderly people every
Speaker 1: like there they have a bus for the senior citizen thing.
Speaker 1: Every week they come by and get their medicine. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, just it just helps. So I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, it's just weed, let's all smoke it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sad we can't smoke together. We'll just
Speaker 1: have to do.
Speaker 2: That after another time for sure. But I'm definitely just
Speaker 2: like super bullish on weed. I just think it's good
Speaker 2: in so many different ways. I think you just think
Speaker 2: there's a big stigma. When I was younger, like my
Speaker 2: dad smoked weed and he's kind of a drunk. So
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I never want to smoke. It's horrible.
Speaker 2: So I thought that for most of my life. And then,
Speaker 2: like I said, when I was like twenty five, I
Speaker 2: started messing with edibles and smoking, and I thought, oh
Speaker 2: my god, Like I almost felt like somebody was hiding
Speaker 2: it from him. And it was like this natural pain
Speaker 2: relief and even like happy medicine because I smoke it.
Speaker 2: Did you watch movies to train pretty much everything I do.
Speaker 1: So you know you're regimen of like the sativa, the hybrid,
Speaker 1: the indica or do you smoke what strand do you
Speaker 1: smoke more heavily than there's I'm.
Speaker 2: Such a heavy smoker that I smoke a lot of Indica. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, So but not like I don't like hazes
Speaker 2: or glues because kind of make you stuck. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's like certain cushes that I like a lot, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense, Like push you'll bring you up, and
Speaker 2: by the time my workout's done, I'm crashing. It's fine.
Speaker 1: I could take a nap, okay, I like that. Describe
Speaker 1: something that's exciting in your life right now.
Speaker 2: Describe something that's exciting. I just moved to Vegas, Okay,
Speaker 2: so I've kind of fought in and out of Vegas
Speaker 2: since like two thousand and nine, so I know the
Speaker 2: town well. I have a lot of fighter friends there.
Speaker 2: It's like a healthy lifestyle for me. I don't drink
Speaker 2: at all, so I just smoke. And there's weed twenty
Speaker 2: four hours a day everywhere in Vegas. It's crazy because
Speaker 2: Vegas used to be like no weed, Like we're totally
Speaker 2: against it. We're gonna throw you in the jail like nothing.
Speaker 1: I've definitely been kicked out of some places because of
Speaker 1: weed smoking. Now it's like acceptable.
Speaker 2: I smoked my pen all throughout the casinos on the streets. Yeah,
Speaker 2: cops pull me over, I'm speeding and they say your
Speaker 2: carsonals like weed.
Speaker 1: Watch that.
Speaker 2: They just say, watched that and let me go. It's
Speaker 2: just it's different. How is that?
Speaker 1: How does that feel coming from an era when that
Speaker 1: before it wasn't so like accepting where it's like if
Speaker 1: the cops pulled you over, you could go like, what
Speaker 1: is that feeling now? Do you feel like you're still
Speaker 1: getting in trouble, like oh, like you did something bad?
Speaker 1: Or do you just like, eh, that's necessarize what it is.
Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty chill with it.
Speaker 1: But it's still like, if I get it, it's ruin
Speaker 1: you're high at the time, because everybody was like, oh shit, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure it does.
Speaker 2: Afterwards, I smoked a bunch. I recently got pulled over
Speaker 2: just from like I was like speeding. I changed lanes
Speaker 2: real quick. The cop was so nice that in Vegas
Speaker 2: he literally gave me a warning and like mentioned something
Speaker 2: about martial arts. He saw my ear or something. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you do martial arts, and then I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is like the best cop interaction I've ever had.
Speaker 1: Nice so Vegas where it's at for you, it's all
Speaker 1: it's all working out.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's working on well. But I love California.
Speaker 2: I grew up here. I used to live right next
Speaker 2: to Sean in Orange County. Okay, my best friend Sewan
Speaker 2: over there. But uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What would you say is unique about you?
Speaker 2: What's unique about me? That's interesting? I get stumped these
Speaker 2: like self questions where I have to think about you.
Speaker 1: Said to you earlier you didn't like talking about yourself.
Speaker 1: But you know, this, Miss Texas is going to get
Speaker 1: you know, dig in a little bit deeper. You know,
Speaker 1: you said that we didn't know each other. That's why
Speaker 1: it's called private talk because at the end of this
Speaker 1: we're going to get to know each other a little
Speaker 1: bit more.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's going to go deeper.
Speaker 1: Go deeper, you know, and nothing's wrong with going deeper. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it could be anything from you know, your
Speaker 1: personality to you know, what you bring to the fighting world,
Speaker 1: what you know anything I would say it stands out.
Speaker 2: I really started I don't know. I'm still training a
Speaker 2: lot myself and focusing on my own fights and stuff,
Speaker 2: but I've taken a little bit of a backseat. Being
Speaker 2: in Vegas. I can manage fighters and just trying to
Speaker 2: Like I'm thirty five now, I keep saying that, but
Speaker 2: like when I started fighting, I was eighteen. So I've
Speaker 2: learned a lot in the MMA industry and I've learned
Speaker 2: a lot in the fight game. So I feel like
Speaker 2: I have a lot of knowledge to pass to the
Speaker 2: younger guys and just like keep people on point because
Speaker 2: a lot of fighters like it's a it's a real
Speaker 2: individual sport, but then it has to be a team
Speaker 2: it too, because you need your coach, you need your
Speaker 2: weight guy, You need people to kind of check up
Speaker 2: on you, like are you on weight, are you training enough?
Speaker 2: Do you need to train a little less? You just, yeah,
Speaker 2: holding them accountable and also being there to like support them,
Speaker 2: so more.
Speaker 1: Of like the mentor role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with all the knowledge of managing too. So I'm
Speaker 2: trying to get them sponsors and then trying to get
Speaker 2: them fights.
Speaker 1: And do you have a fight coming up yourself that
Speaker 1: you're training for or are you just kind of primarily
Speaker 1: managing people right now, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just managing people. Yeah, kind of focused on that. At
Speaker 2: the end of the year, I've been doing a lot
Speaker 2: of Muay Thai. I'm like real obsessed with that right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I've been just enjoying that. I went to Tuloom
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, I was training down there nice,
Speaker 2: and then I was training in La Here for a
Speaker 2: little bit, and I obviously train a lot in Vegas.
Speaker 2: So I think an interesting thing about me right now
Speaker 2: is I'm managing professional fighters.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like being in with the fights without having
Speaker 2: to be the actual fighter.
Speaker 1: I love that though. I think that, like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, it is such an individual sport, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people like try to like hold on to
Speaker 1: like their secrets or their gems and stuff, where it's
Speaker 1: like I think the more progression of like being more
Speaker 1: in depth in the field is like sharing your knowledge
Speaker 1: of what you know and they can add to themselves
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's both. It's a team and an individual sport.
Speaker 2: And I think guys just think it's a team sports
Speaker 2: me versus you know, but it is a team sport.
Speaker 2: Oh you need your guys there. You know you need
Speaker 2: you need your your people for you, you know, moral
Speaker 2: support plus training your back.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you regret saying no to that
Speaker 1: you could go back and maybe say yes.
Speaker 2: Like in the fight game or life and in.
Speaker 1: Life in general. It could be with the fighting, it
Speaker 1: could be life, it could be anything.
Speaker 2: I think if I had to say notice something, I
Speaker 2: would have said no to college.
Speaker 1: You would have said no to college.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I wasted time. I went to Northridge
Speaker 2: here and can State Northridge over in seasun so like
Speaker 2: the valley. But I think if I would have just
Speaker 2: focused on fighting, I would have been a way different
Speaker 2: spot versus kind of like trying to do college and
Speaker 2: then trying to fight and then kind of juggling that.
Speaker 1: What were you going to school for?
Speaker 2: Him? Nursing?
Speaker 1: Nursing? Do you have a passion in that any longer?
Speaker 1: Would you ever go back and kind of dabble again?
Speaker 1: Are you? I?
Speaker 2: Like, I like to take care of people and stuff,
Speaker 2: And that's what that's what it was about. When I
Speaker 2: was younger, I got on a lot of street fights
Speaker 2: and I got stabbed. So the male nurse that like
Speaker 2: sewed me up and we had this talk, you know,
Speaker 2: I was only fifteen, and he's like, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm mean a mail nurse.
Speaker 2: And he was like buff and he's like, I work
Speaker 2: out a lot and I travel and I get paid
Speaker 2: a lot. So that was my first thought. I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, that's what I want to do. I'll just
Speaker 2: be like a fighter, traveling male nurse guy. And then
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, there's tons of ladies because you'll be
Speaker 2: the only male. And there was a lot of perks
Speaker 2: to it. When I was younger, I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: this sounds like the game, but yeah, I actually fighting
Speaker 2: was more like my passion. Passion. I should have just
Speaker 2: kind of your parents and your family, like, oh, college, college,
Speaker 2: But I kind of wish I just.
Speaker 1: Went right into fighting. Yeah, with you being in fighting
Speaker 1: and now, you know, doing all kinds of different walks
Speaker 1: of live. You said you travel a lot. Has there
Speaker 1: been any crazy fan interactions maybe celebrity interactions that you
Speaker 1: just kind of didn't think that would go that way?
Speaker 2: I had. I had a kind of a crazy, like
Speaker 2: weird stalker from web three, which is like Twitter and stuff,
Speaker 2: and yeah, just some girl that was just like I
Speaker 2: wanted to be me and I met her and then.
Speaker 1: Like how yourself. You got really quiet, talking like, I
Speaker 1: hope she's not watching you. Where's she in the corner?
Speaker 1: I promise you she's not here.
Speaker 2: She knew a lot of these Web three people, and
Speaker 2: she was in a lot of these groups of mine,
Speaker 2: and then uh yeah, when I didn't want to hang
Speaker 2: out with her one night or something, I was busy,
Speaker 2: she like freaked out.
Speaker 1: It was a whole thing, you know, And you still
Speaker 1: never met her.
Speaker 2: No, I did meet her. Okay, okay, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: you meet him or you don't meet him. But you
Speaker 2: talk to a lot of people on the internet, and
Speaker 2: I just try to be as nice as I can
Speaker 2: to everyone, and then some people they take it like
Speaker 2: the niceness too much, too far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you can only just you could just
Speaker 1: be a nice guy without trying to want to fuck
Speaker 1: or be in a relationship or do any of those things.
Speaker 2: She was like a forty five year old woman, you know,
Speaker 2: and not really my type. It just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just was just bad news. Bad news. Did it
Speaker 1: make you in some sort failed flattered because someone was
Speaker 1: like wanting you were crushing that hard to like get
Speaker 1: your attention because there's like that great area between like
Speaker 1: oh it's cute, like oh it's scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was only scary.
Speaker 1: Only scary, Okay, yeah, because.
Speaker 2: She knew a lot of people that I knew, and
Speaker 2: then I didn't want to like tell crap on her,
Speaker 2: but I had to tell them, like look at this
Speaker 2: girl freaked down. Yeah it's not good. But yeah. I
Speaker 2: didn't want to say too much either, because I know
Speaker 2: people just love to talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like that, and then you're the bad guy.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants that exactly. So with the crazy lifestyle that
Speaker 1: you live and trying to get you know, being with
Speaker 1: managing people, do you have any daily rituals or go
Speaker 1: to strategies that kind of like keep you in line
Speaker 1: with being on top.
Speaker 2: Of what you're doing daily rituals. I meditate and do
Speaker 2: yoga every morning. Okay, So I listened to like positive
Speaker 2: affirmations and stuff like that. I heard something from somebody
Speaker 2: that when you first wake up, your your brains and
Speaker 2: like a beta mode where you absorb the most information.
Speaker 2: So I try to listen to like really positive things
Speaker 2: and like do something like I'm always training so much,
Speaker 2: so yoga is always like like a startup for.
Speaker 1: The day, you know, so your your your limber.
Speaker 2: Getting I'm doing my best. I'm doing my ban maybe.
Speaker 1: The splits, no you think you'll ever get there?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I haven't actually been like working that, but.
Speaker 1: Like maybe you should. You learned something about flexible.
Speaker 2: Than people think that when I do jiu jitsu and
Speaker 2: I do different things. So okay, I surprise people, surprise them.
Speaker 1: Dating life, what is that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you single? In a relationship?
Speaker 2: Looking dating life? Single? I've been moving around so much
Speaker 2: and traveling so much it's hard to like like flatch
Speaker 2: down with something. But even before, I mean I was
Speaker 2: traveling a lot the last year before this for NFT
Speaker 2: stuff and going all over the place. So yeah, I've
Speaker 2: medical girls and dated a little bit, but just hasn't
Speaker 2: worked out.
Speaker 1: So with your dating life, is it something when you
Speaker 1: how do you meet people? Is it something like dating
Speaker 1: apps or you on or do you just try to
Speaker 1: typically do it organically like going out to these events
Speaker 1: that you're doing, or how do you kind of approach that?
Speaker 2: Like with meeting people, I found it it's best to
Speaker 2: meet somebody from friends, Okay, you know what, like.
Speaker 1: You're going to meet somebody out a little bit or
Speaker 1: get to know a little bit of about them.
Speaker 2: First, Like I don't know, it just seems more of
Speaker 2: a safer space too, like kind of random people on
Speaker 2: dating websites. I've done the dating websites and they're just
Speaker 2: not it.
Speaker 1: Is it more we find like more of a hookup
Speaker 1: thing or is it just like just the caliber of
Speaker 1: people Just isn't it.
Speaker 2: Probably both, you know, a little bit of both, and
Speaker 2: I just think it. I don't know, it's like it's
Speaker 2: not I don't know, it's not natural for me, you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's like I'd rather like know the people and like
Speaker 2: know the people they hang around with, so I have
Speaker 2: an idea of who they are as a person, you know,
Speaker 2: and then kind of go from there.
Speaker 1: Would you say that you're the type of man that
Speaker 1: if you were at a bar and you saw something
Speaker 1: that saw a women that you were interested, would you
Speaker 1: wait till she approached you? Or would you approach her?
Speaker 1: What a tactic method would you use?
Speaker 2: I don't think women ever approached her and do that
Speaker 2: you do?
Speaker 1: I do think, especially Europe too. But I feel like nowadays,
Speaker 1: like you know, I feel like nowadays kind of not
Speaker 1: roles of reverse, but I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 1: more women are asking for what they want or going
Speaker 1: after what they go, you know, what they want kind
Speaker 1: of things. So it's like I feel I can go
Speaker 1: either way. I don't think it's like one gender neutral way.
Speaker 1: That's like not always the man should approach or does.
Speaker 1: So it hasn't happened to you.
Speaker 2: No, No, I literally just approach, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Not because you seem kind of timid about it. So
Speaker 1: it seems like you'd be like, like, maybe make Sean
Speaker 1: go do it, but you wouldn't go do.
Speaker 2: That's happened a lot. That's happened a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel like you'd be like, hey, I think she's
Speaker 1: really hot, can we like do something? But I feel
Speaker 1: like you're kind.
Speaker 2: Of like sometimes so, you know, it's better sometimes to
Speaker 2: do myself.
Speaker 1: Do you have like a go to pickup line? What works?
Speaker 2: I try to like ask their name and say hi
Speaker 2: and okay, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: The typical stuff, small talk like a nice guy gentlemen
Speaker 1: like where are we going from here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm a nice guy.
Speaker 1: Would you fuck on a first date? Depends you have
Speaker 1: you looked away?
Speaker 2: I have I have I'm not gonna lie, but they're
Speaker 2: wrong with that. Yeah, it doesn't happen much actually anymore. Okay,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm old now, you know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, Like you're thirty five, relaxed.
Speaker 2: I don't go out though, and I don't know, it's hard.
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like I say, like, where do
Speaker 1: you approach women? You know what I mean? Because like
Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight, So it's like the last two years,
Speaker 1: like I will actually say, last year, I've been like
Speaker 1: open to dating, but myself too, is like I can't
Speaker 1: really go on dating apps because people know who I am,
Speaker 1: and then it's that whole like weeding things out. But
Speaker 1: it's like where do you go and find people? You
Speaker 1: have to put yourself out there. No one's gonna go
Speaker 1: knocking down on your gym door and say, hey, can
Speaker 1: we do it? You know what I mean, as much
Speaker 1: as if anybody's as alpha what whatever. But it's like
Speaker 1: your hobbies, what you like, but also being open to
Speaker 1: speaking to other people than the people that you came
Speaker 1: there with. Because I feel like I myself have been
Speaker 1: like yeah, but I'm out, but I'm not paying attention
Speaker 1: to who's out. I'm just paying it into my group.
Speaker 1: So I could see why you say, like with friends,
Speaker 1: knowing friends and introducing you, but you should like open
Speaker 1: yourself up to you've been Vegas. You're not old, so
Speaker 1: you hear. There's lots of experiences in Vegas that you
Speaker 1: can do from, not just like typical like casinos or things,
Speaker 1: but there's other stuff that I feel like if you
Speaker 1: tried a little bit more.
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. I've thought that to myself. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I really don't try because I don't go out and
Speaker 2: like this people invite me out. Sometimes I'm like.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, no one's going to come to knocking down
Speaker 1: your door. You know, that's the stocker type. And then
Speaker 1: we don't want those times we talked about that.
Speaker 2: See the thing I am a little shy and timid
Speaker 2: sometimes with girls. So the thing about me through my
Speaker 2: whole like dating career, people have always like just like,
Speaker 2: oh this is Keith. Oh this is kind of introduced
Speaker 2: me to people or I've already known people, so it's
Speaker 2: kind of been easier for me. So now the last
Speaker 2: couple of years way out, Yeah I know, but it's
Speaker 2: been so Doctor.
Speaker 1: Texas is going to teach you the way I'm doctor
Speaker 1: Texas without the PhD. Like's just put that out the
Speaker 1: dislamer out there. But I mean it's I feel like
Speaker 1: for me and you should just food for It's that
Speaker 1: it's the year of like being uncomfortable, like being comfortable,
Speaker 1: like you have to be. You have to be comfortable
Speaker 1: with being uncomfortable because if not, you're gonna stay the
Speaker 1: same course. You're gonna do the same things and nothing's
Speaker 1: ever gonna change. And doing the same thing over and
Speaker 1: over again and expecting different results is what insanity. So
Speaker 1: therefore you gotta you do a little bit more. Keith,
Speaker 1: you know you want you know you want a wife.
Speaker 1: You know you want you know, a children, you want
Speaker 1: all these things that you know inspire to add on
Speaker 1: these life I mean, are these not things that you.
Speaker 2: Want a wife? It's kind of like a complicated thing nowadays.
Speaker 2: Do I want a wife?
Speaker 1: And I'm asking you, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, I'm asking myself right now, reflect.
Speaker 1: Keith, do you want a wife? Do you want a
Speaker 1: companion and a partner to share all the great things
Speaker 1: that you're doing in life?
Speaker 2: It sounds good, but like I don't know. Nowadays it's
Speaker 2: I'm big on trust too. That's why when I'm already
Speaker 2: already meet somebody I kind of already trust them in
Speaker 2: a way because I knew him from this person.
Speaker 1: This person's like, that's a trust on them, not your trust. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the trust holds with you. So it's like you
Speaker 1: have to determine. I think that maybe part of some
Speaker 1: of your timidus is things that you haven't asked yourself
Speaker 1: these questions. But it's like if you do want those things,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you do or not,
Speaker 1: but it's opening yourself up to like, what does the
Speaker 1: relationship work for me? I think when people get timid,
Speaker 1: it's like they see reflections of other people, and I
Speaker 1: think that a lot of people nowadays kind of settle
Speaker 1: and so they like to get married, you know, or
Speaker 1: they're married and they're like, we don't have sex for
Speaker 1: a year, we don't have whatever. It's like, why would
Speaker 1: you want a relationship like that? So it's like sometimes
Speaker 1: what we project is like we're putting that in the air,
Speaker 1: and that's what we get back. But if you're really
Speaker 1: honest with yourself and you say, hey, I need a
Speaker 1: partner who's supportive, someone who's going to like uplift me
Speaker 1: or be there for me ABCD, and then it's like
Speaker 1: then you have more of a clear line and direction
Speaker 1: of who those ladies would be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's for me. It's like do I
Speaker 2: do all these things and I want the person I'm
Speaker 2: with to be like active and hiking, and so it's
Speaker 2: when I go to bars, like those are not the
Speaker 2: people that I meet, right.
Speaker 1: But those aren't the places you should meet something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but those are like where else to you?
Speaker 2: It's like in Vegas, where do you meet the.
Speaker 1: Grocery store freaking the gap by chance of whatever? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, there's lots of places that
Speaker 1: if you keep.
Speaker 2: The mind it would you say.
Speaker 1: Because I would. I definitely had an encounter of someone
Speaker 1: I wasn't personally at the gym, but a friend of
Speaker 1: mine hooked me up with someone that she saw at
Speaker 1: her gym that she thought would go in line with
Speaker 1: me with that thing. And it was a chance, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You don't know because we had
Speaker 1: a lot of strangers in a sense.
Speaker 2: But there's something you at the gym and you're doing
Speaker 2: cardio and like you see some guy and he kind
Speaker 2: of looks at you, and then ten minutes later he
Speaker 2: like comes up and talks and maybe ask for your number.
Speaker 2: Is that too much at the gym? So people are
Speaker 2: that's like sometimes they're they're time to like you know,
Speaker 2: they're at their work or doing all their things in life.
Speaker 2: Their gym is like they're alone or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I think it's it can get two ways. I
Speaker 1: think that there's a time and a place. So I
Speaker 1: feel like, for me, if I was on that machine
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you're doing things inappropriate time because i'm
Speaker 1: working out, I'm getting whatever i'm doing on right, But
Speaker 1: if I was after getting off the machine and like
Speaker 1: I'm getting water doing something that's like a stationary thing,
Speaker 1: and like, hey, like I think that you're really attractive.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to be too forward, but I
Speaker 1: would really like to take you out sometime. Is that
Speaker 1: something you'd be interested in? That I don't think is
Speaker 1: bad because again, you're in a place that both of
Speaker 1: y'all are at that y'all are actively doing, so you
Speaker 1: have common interest on certain levels. But if you don't ask,
Speaker 1: you'll never know.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: No, now, you just gave you your pickup line for
Speaker 1: the gym.
Speaker 2: Look now, as you said that, I thought, that's a
Speaker 2: lot of words. I don't know I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Have to shorten that well into your own context. I
Speaker 1: know men sometimes, you know, and I was like complex
Speaker 1: as women like myself, I just talk a lot, so
Speaker 1: you know, I just word it down because you're.
Speaker 2: A pretty woman talking to the guy, so you could.
Speaker 1: But nowadays, I feel like there's a lot of pretty
Speaker 1: people out in the world. So if you don't have
Speaker 1: substance behind those prettiness, then what that conversation gets deaded
Speaker 1: really quick? What would you say is one of your
Speaker 1: biggest pet peeves, something that just really irritates you. Don't
Speaker 1: say nothing?
Speaker 2: That's absolutely probably chewing with your mouth open, okay. Manners
Speaker 2: like not having manners to like waiters and waitresses, you know,
Speaker 2: on your phone. Like if we're we don't see each
Speaker 2: other a lot or something, and then we're in front
Speaker 2: of each other, You're just on your phone the whole time.
Speaker 2: It's a little annoying.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Who was your first celebrity crush?
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson?
Speaker 1: Mike girl? I mean, if you want to have Mike.
Speaker 2: Is okay, girl, I don't know you Captain.
Speaker 1: You knew Mike really quick.
Speaker 2: I know I was ready for that.
Speaker 1: You didn't have some girl that you maybe maybe she
Speaker 1: was a victorious secret.
Speaker 2: Model like Denise Richard's.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I like that. When was the movie that
Speaker 1: she was in that was Wild Things?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: See you knew, you knew were real quick things got
Speaker 1: real wild. How many times did you want to that movie?
Speaker 2: I don't know, at least a hundred times.
Speaker 1: Did you watch in Islomo?
Speaker 2: I've seen it in all modes? I like it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What would you say is the best advice that you've
Speaker 1: ever gotten?
Speaker 2: That's a good question. What's the best advice that I've
Speaker 2: ever gotten?
Speaker 1: Do you take advice from other people?
Speaker 2: It sounds like I don't google for advice.
Speaker 1: We've had that answer before.
Speaker 2: They google for it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe you have a mentor maybe it's Mike, maybe
Speaker 1: it's you know. I mean, there's a lot that can
Speaker 1: come from anywhere. Or maybe you just go to yourself
Speaker 1: and you don't feel like you need advice whatever, and
Speaker 1: you just kind of look within and kind of maybe
Speaker 1: figure it out yourself, because we do have the answers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think of my coach Jamie. He's
Speaker 2: telling me a lot of things. I have a boxing coach.
Speaker 2: He's actually in Vegas too. He has two kids, So
Speaker 2: I try to be close with him and his kids.
Speaker 2: And I've known him since, like him and his wife
Speaker 2: got together before I even had kids, So like I
Speaker 2: don't I've seen him growth. Yeah, yeah, so he's given
Speaker 2: me a lot of good advice. It's more like straightforward
Speaker 2: advice before fights and stuff. Don't mess with this person,
Speaker 2: don't do this. But I can't remember like specific advice
Speaker 2: that was really good. But yeah, I've definitely taken a
Speaker 2: lot of advice from him.
Speaker 1: And yeah, if you could change jobs, would you and
Speaker 1: what would you do?
Speaker 2: I don't think I would change jobs, but if I
Speaker 2: randomly could do any job, I'd be like a Lamborghini salesman.
Speaker 1: Okay, Lamborghini sales in Italy that matters, that matters.
Speaker 2: Like I'd be at the like Lamborghini like headquarters.
Speaker 1: You know, So you're top dog Lamborghini in Italy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not just like a normal not just a normal.
Speaker 1: You're like salesman of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you get free lambos too.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like this. Okay, I think we just invented
Speaker 1: our own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one Lambo a year.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been kicked out of a place and
Speaker 1: if so.
Speaker 2: Why I've been kicked out of in Vegas.
Speaker 1: What did you do? Were you too drunk? Were you fighting?
Speaker 1: Where were you?
Speaker 2: I think I was just too drunk. I tripped over
Speaker 2: something in the board or the bouncer was like.
Speaker 1: Nah, dude, that's it. When and done, you're going to
Speaker 1: get out of here.
Speaker 2: I think that was really it. I mean I've had
Speaker 2: a couple incidents like that. Maybe Okay, I can't think specifically,
Speaker 2: try not to incrediate myself too much.
Speaker 1: With all the social media platforms out there, which one
Speaker 1: do you use the most? If any?
Speaker 2: Twitter?
Speaker 1: Twitter? So you're part of the whole X movement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like at first I didn't like I was like,
Speaker 2: what is this X like?
Speaker 1: But kind of growing growing on you? Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: you speak about that a little bit more. You say,
Speaker 1: you do Twitter, you do spaces on there. You're heavily
Speaker 1: into NFT stuff. Now what kind of stuff to what
Speaker 1: would we be able to find out? And like you're
Speaker 1: doing a Twitter space with you.
Speaker 2: So I focus more on, like on smaller artists and
Speaker 2: people that are getting into NFTs. Like so say say
Speaker 2: say you're an artist and you're making all these like
Speaker 2: drawings and paintings and then you vector it and you
Speaker 2: put it online. You could mint on a blockchain and
Speaker 2: they sell it from there. Okay, So I try to
Speaker 2: help people that are first getting in and then I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to be like an uplifting positive person.
Speaker 1: And so are they asking questions to you on this
Speaker 1: on the when you're doing your space if so that
Speaker 1: way like one on one kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So like I'm a big collector, so like almost like
Speaker 2: my niche, I'm always like buying NFTs, talking about NFTs,
Speaker 2: so I kind of like am true to that. So
Speaker 2: I'll open up spaces and I'll buy art from people
Speaker 2: like all over the world, like a place in Africa,
Speaker 2: place in Europe, place in Australia, just all over, you know,
Speaker 2: and just support smaller artists. A lot of them are women,
Speaker 2: which is nice because I have like a big women following.
Speaker 2: But we're all like artists, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, how did you kind of fall into the
Speaker 1: NFT space? You know, it's something that's you know, new
Speaker 1: to certain people, it's been around for a while, but
Speaker 1: you know, really in the depths of it, how did
Speaker 1: you kind of get into that world? And how at
Speaker 1: first I.
Speaker 2: Was into doge coin. So my friend told me, I'm
Speaker 2: getting dogecoin. Check this out. It's like a funny dog coin,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just fun. And I kind of just
Speaker 2: did it, messing around with him and like buying one
Speaker 2: hundred dollars, kind of like acting like we're just throwing
Speaker 2: away one hundred dollars. And then after a while it
Speaker 2: started kind of going up, and then I started getting
Speaker 2: more onto Twitter almost like it was like a dogecoin community.
Speaker 2: They have like different sub communities on Twitter all kinds, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many different communities there are, but
Speaker 2: there's probably hundreds, you know. So I kind of got
Speaker 2: into that, and then from dogecoin went into NFTs and
Speaker 2: then thought like I'm just gonna buy a bunch of
Speaker 2: NFTs and be in this. People were really like supportive
Speaker 2: and they were looking at my fights again, so it
Speaker 2: was kind of like revitalizing my fight career again. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just fun, you know. It's like a good
Speaker 2: positive support sism. I would just train all day and
Speaker 2: then talk on spaces and mess around on Twitter.
Speaker 1: And smuck your bond. Yeah again, what would you say
Speaker 1: is your most memorable fight?
Speaker 2: Most memorable fight? I thought this guy Cortes Coleman for
Speaker 2: Bellator and it was in twenty thirteen and it was
Speaker 2: his hometown and at the time he was training with
Speaker 2: this guy that like had some beef with my ex.
Speaker 2: So there's like all this drama and.
Speaker 1: Like drama beef, Like how what's going on with like
Speaker 1: you know, Dylan Dannis and Logan Paul like talking about
Speaker 1: each other like that rom or.
Speaker 2: It was like more more low key, wasn't crazy, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I went to like a it was like a crazy fight,
Speaker 2: Like I was trying to knock the guy out the.
Speaker 1: Whole time, so you wont naturally close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I won. It was a split decision in his
Speaker 2: hometown and it was like a viral video on the
Speaker 2: internet had all these views. So that was like my
Speaker 2: best best flight. Yeah nice, and I got other bigger
Speaker 2: contracts because of that flight and notoriety.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the whole madness of Dylan
Speaker 1: Dannis and whole Logan Paul fight coming up and how
Speaker 1: much shit that's being talked about, you know, personal stuff
Speaker 1: and all kinds of craziness. Do you think that takes
Speaker 1: away from the sport or do you think it's an
Speaker 1: added bonus And that's just how it goes. I think
Speaker 1: it's weird, Okay, something you wouldn't do yourself.
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't understand why they're involving the girls
Speaker 2: and doing this whole thing. I think it's like, maybe
Speaker 2: it gets more publicity. Maybe it's like their marketing strategy.
Speaker 1: I guess type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know if like hardcore fan that
Speaker 2: are into fighting really like vibe with that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: What I was telling my friend today, I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know why Dylan Danis is going so hard
Speaker 2: on this. I know him a little bit from Vegas.
Speaker 2: I used to work at Sapphire, a strip club in Vegas,
Speaker 2: and I've seen so many guys come into that place.
Speaker 2: So I saw him and I was the front door guy.
Speaker 2: So I just held his number and we talked a
Speaker 2: little bit. He's kind of I don't know, he's okay guy.
Speaker 2: I guess, a little douchey in my opinion. But this
Speaker 2: whole thing that they're doing, I don't know if it
Speaker 2: makes for a big fight for them and more dollars.
Speaker 2: I guess it's good, but it's a little cringey for sure.
Speaker 2: Why are you posting all these pictures of this girl
Speaker 2: and getting so into it and calling her whore and
Speaker 2: all this stuff. It's much. Yeah, and uh my focus
Speaker 2: would be on the guy, you know, and like not
Speaker 2: his you know who he's.
Speaker 1: With, or it's like leave the wife and children's alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So on the fight aspect, who do you think
Speaker 1: is gonna win?
Speaker 2: They both really suck.
Speaker 1: But someone has to be a winner.
Speaker 2: So one guy is a jujitsu guy that's never really boxed,
Speaker 2: that is an actual fighter, but he's mostly jujitsu, right,
Speaker 2: He fought for Belator where I just talked about. And
Speaker 2: then Logan Paul, I don't think he's ever won a
Speaker 2: fight in boxing, so he's zero two and one, so
Speaker 2: he has two losses, one draw, no wins. So I
Speaker 2: mean this is like, these guys suck, right, I don't know, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know who to pick from, but I guess
Speaker 2: if I had to say, Logan will probably win because
Speaker 2: if it goes a decision, then I think he'll have
Speaker 2: like the judges.
Speaker 1: In his pocket in the pocket. Okay, Okay, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go for Logan. Paul. I don't like Logan,
Speaker 1: it's not about a liking cause just if somebody, like
Speaker 1: I said, there has to be a winner, you know,
Speaker 1: or less is it a draw? And there could be,
Speaker 1: could be, but I feel like that's not going to
Speaker 1: be that way. I feel like people be really pissed
Speaker 1: if that's after all of this and that's what it
Speaker 1: gets to. But yeah, it's interesting. I feel like, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about now with you know, fighting world
Speaker 1: and things like there's more YouTubers and all these like
Speaker 1: you know, social media stars coming in and kind of fighting.
Speaker 1: How do you kind of feel about that with someone
Speaker 1: who's kind of had more of a background that you've
Speaker 1: been doing it since, you know, younger, and you kind
Speaker 1: of really took it serious. Where do you think that
Speaker 1: they are taking it serious as well? Or do you
Speaker 1: think they're trying to making a gimmick and joke of it.
Speaker 2: I think Jake Paul knows how to fight it, and
Speaker 2: I'm actually like I've seen him kind of grow. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: this kid knows how to fight it, you know, so
Speaker 2: him excluded the rest of the guys. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'd like to fight a YouTube guy for a bunch
Speaker 2: of money. I mean, I think it's good for boxing
Speaker 2: because boxing was a little dead and dying a little.
Speaker 2: People always say that it's dying. It'll probably never ever
Speaker 2: go away. Obviously, boxing is like a century old sports,
Speaker 2: a legendary sport. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I think that there is a
Speaker 1: lane for everybody. And like you said, I do think
Speaker 1: that Jake has definitely proven himself and like the training
Speaker 1: and bringing all those things. I think that now I
Speaker 1: think that for maybe some of the smaller ones, it's
Speaker 1: just become like a thing that's easier to do. But
Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, to each zone, if you
Speaker 1: can get inside the ring and go for battle, then
Speaker 1: to each his zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jake Paul is still getting in there.
Speaker 2: He's still like fighting all these rounds and having to
Speaker 2: go through the pre and all. There's a lot to
Speaker 2: go into fighting, you know. For him to do all
Speaker 2: that and have these performances like he has been, I
Speaker 2: mean it's impressive for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely has a lot of balls, keep on going
Speaker 1: with all that, you know, the hate that he gets from. Sure,
Speaker 1: what's one luxury item that you spoil yourself with? Is
Speaker 1: there something that you kind of indulge in?
Speaker 2: I buy a lot of Fiji water.
Speaker 1: That's a luxury.
Speaker 2: That's what I think. When I was poor, I only
Speaker 2: bought like the shitty water. Now I'm like, okay, trying
Speaker 2: to buy only Fiji water. Sean likes Fiji water.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, two each zone. What is the
Speaker 1: biggest life lesson that you've learned?
Speaker 2: Biggest life lesson? I think when you break up with somebody,
Speaker 2: I think that relationship should stay like almost dead. I
Speaker 2: think it's like raising zombies when you go back and
Speaker 2: date somebody that you've already dated, because you've already seen that,
Speaker 2: You've already found that out and I've done that enough times.
Speaker 2: Or I'm like, all right, that is like a thing,
Speaker 2: a no no for me, so it's kind of like
Speaker 2: my thing now.
Speaker 1: They say it's like taking a shower and then putting
Speaker 1: dirty under her on. You don't want to do that, like,
Speaker 1: but you've already been there, done that. You know, time
Speaker 1: to move on to the next pair.
Speaker 2: People get like liking or involved or attached to these
Speaker 2: old memories they have and they keep replaying them and
Speaker 2: then when they come back like you're.
Speaker 1: Like the dope of meane they're chasing.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just different things have happened You've both have
Speaker 2: changed a little and it's not always in the same page.
Speaker 1: You know what personal accomplishment? Are you most proud.
Speaker 2: Of personal accomplishing? But I'm most proud of I have
Speaker 2: two of the fastest knockouts in California.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: I have a five second lockout and a six second knockout.
Speaker 1: Did you go in there knowing that that's what you
Speaker 1: wanted to obtain? No, No, it's just something that you
Speaker 1: were just that awesome then fucking made it happen.
Speaker 2: When I was young and I was fighting, I just
Speaker 2: went in there balls blazing because I was scared because
Speaker 2: I didn't I wanted to get in there and win
Speaker 2: and didn't want to Like I don't know, it was
Speaker 2: like more anxious for me. Now I've kind of like
Speaker 2: learned to hone my energy more and just more mature
Speaker 2: about it. So now I just whatever happens, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter how long it goes or how short it is.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about a little bit more. What did
Speaker 1: you have any like pre fight things that you did
Speaker 1: that was like on a daily like ritual thing. That's
Speaker 1: this meditation part. But like right before going in the fight,
Speaker 1: is there maybe some like a music, a song like
Speaker 1: something that kind of made you like amped you up
Speaker 1: to get ready to go, or do you just fuck it?
Speaker 1: You just went and did it?
Speaker 2: No, I like I list with music, you know, I
Speaker 2: just kind of zone out, turned my phone off for
Speaker 2: the day, focus on the fight. I usually just repeat
Speaker 2: to myself, like you did all your training, like you're
Speaker 2: ready for this fight, and you have the skills to
Speaker 2: beat this guy and something like that. I haven't like
Speaker 2: written down somewhere, but I like kind of repeat that
Speaker 2: to myself because with fighting, you could go over a
Speaker 2: scenarios like a thousand times, like this happens, this happens,
Speaker 2: what this? So your mind can get drained from that.
Speaker 2: I think. I try to just no, this is what
Speaker 2: I know, these things I've done all my training. I
Speaker 2: have the tools to beat this guy, and I'm confident.
Speaker 2: So I kind of repeat that to my I brainwash
Speaker 2: myself like it it works.
Speaker 1: Though, if people came with the warning label, what would
Speaker 1: yours be?
Speaker 2: Probably don't eat too much. I'm an edible.
Speaker 1: Okay, have you ever taken a souvenir home from a girl?
Speaker 2: Oh, from a girl.
Speaker 1: It could be panties, it could be jewelry. It could
Speaker 1: be like a girl you just meet, a girl you
Speaker 1: had sex with that you just.
Speaker 2: Met and had sex with. Sure, Okay, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I did meet this girl. We didn't like have sex,
Speaker 2: but we were like kissed at this bar in Hong
Speaker 2: Kong and they had like these uh Peter pewter butterflies
Speaker 2: all over this bar. It was a butterfly bar, these
Speaker 2: little like metal pewter things. So I just took one
Speaker 2: of those for the memory.
Speaker 1: The memory. Where is that you have a keepsnake box?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think I give it to Max.
Speaker 1: Actually, I don't think you're supposed to forgive things.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is from Hong Kong. It was
Speaker 2: really cool.
Speaker 1: Good, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you have any tattoos that you regret?
Speaker 2: I don't have any tattoos.
Speaker 1: No tattoos. What do you look for in a partner?
Speaker 1: I know this is a tough one for you, but
Speaker 1: do you know what you look for in a partner?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like somebody that's at least on the same page athletically,
Speaker 2: that likes to, like, you know, exercise a lot and
Speaker 2: eat wells.
Speaker 1: Dogs Okay, lex cats, do you have dogs?
Speaker 2: I have dog, You have cats. I like cats. Haw
Speaker 2: girls usually have cats, So I just like the cats
Speaker 2: from that too.
Speaker 1: Not me. No, I don't like cats. No, I'm allergic.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, you're very shady. You
Speaker 1: never know when they're going to like pounce at you.
Speaker 1: Like dogs. I feel like a little bit more endearing
Speaker 1: to those things. Just mind mine. Okay, let's see. I
Speaker 1: feel like we've warmed you up enough that I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask you a little bit more crazier questions. So
Speaker 1: things are about to get a little or spicy. Boy,
Speaker 1: are you ready?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Let's we'll ease you into it a
Speaker 1: little bit. How do you define cheating? What is cheating
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: I think when you're with somebody, you guys both like
Speaker 2: have a particular set of like what's not to do
Speaker 2: and what's to do?
Speaker 1: You know, So when say, what, we're in a relationship,
Speaker 1: what are something that would be like your rules or
Speaker 1: like you're that cheating that would consider cheating?
Speaker 2: Well, we would probably have to talk about that like
Speaker 2: amongst each other, right and be like, oh, it's but.
Speaker 1: What are deal breakers too that would consider cheating?
Speaker 2: I mean sex would be cheating.
Speaker 1: Like so physical intimacy.
Speaker 2: Definitely, and then I don't know. I've the people that
Speaker 2: I've dated, like if there's something going on, usually will
Speaker 2: like talk it out and be like, look, all right,
Speaker 2: we're just kind of like going other ways or it's
Speaker 2: not working out. So I've had like a lot of
Speaker 2: like breakups that were really like amable. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a mouthful.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is mouthful, but but yeah, considered cheating. I mean,
Speaker 2: you guys would have to agree on where you're at,
Speaker 2: and this relationship is completely exclusive. And I mean there's
Speaker 2: this fighter, Sean O'Malley. Have you heard of him? He
Speaker 2: just said randomly He's like, I cheat on my wife
Speaker 2: because I pay all the bills and we have an
Speaker 2: open relationship, and I guess it's not cheating if he's
Speaker 2: it's open, right, So but yeah.
Speaker 1: But would you be in a open relationship?
Speaker 2: No, No, I've done that before.
Speaker 1: Okay, not for you. No, have you ever cheated?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you get caught?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How is that for you?
Speaker 2: Run around like a dirty I got caught? It is
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 1: You know what excites you most about the future, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of like, like,
Speaker 2: this was exciting to come to La you know, because
Speaker 2: I've been in Vegas for the last couple of months
Speaker 2: and I was just in Tuloom, So I like traveling.
Speaker 2: A lot of the traveling coming up, and there's an
Speaker 2: art ballsl coming up in Miami that I'm excited for, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice one night stands? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: What are my thoughts on?
Speaker 1: Like, do you like them? Have you done them well?
Speaker 1: Do you entertain them? Are you more of like a
Speaker 1: relationship type of person now?
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm looking for more like a relationship, right,
Speaker 2: more substance. Yeah, I've had one night stance and stuff,
Speaker 2: but being not drinking and like it takes me out
Speaker 2: of a lot of that because I'm my kind of antisocial,
Speaker 2: So I don't, like I was telling you, I don't
Speaker 2: go out as much and so I don't know, I
Speaker 2: haven't had one night saving a long time. I can't
Speaker 2: even think.
Speaker 1: But what about a wild sex story? Do you have
Speaker 1: any of those wild sex storm You don't seem like
Speaker 1: a wild sex story, man, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think I have one. Really, I'm like a.
Speaker 1: Vanilla am I Do you only do missionary?
Speaker 2: No? I mean I've done other stuff, right, but uh,
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: Tell me you love me, look at me in my eyes.
Speaker 1: It's the only way I can get off. Did I
Speaker 1: just read you? Do you feel seen?
Speaker 2: No? No, I say other things, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What about your porn search history? If we were to
Speaker 1: look at your computer right now, what would we find?
Speaker 1: What are you looking up on porn Hub?
Speaker 2: A lot of blonde stuff. It sounds weird because you're blonde.
Speaker 1: So you've jerked off to me.
Speaker 2: I haven't, I have not.
Speaker 1: You're still looking in the eyes. I believe that normally
Speaker 1: you'd be like looking everywhere else and like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so you like blondes with big boobs, because obviously I'm
Speaker 1: blonde with big boot big booty, so you would miss me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Have you dated anybody in the industry? How did that
Speaker 1: work out for you? Were they actively shooting or were
Speaker 1: you like had an agreement like you said that, you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of chose to either be with each other
Speaker 1: and you know obviously knew what she did. How is
Speaker 1: that for you?
Speaker 2: I have like a weird thing with sex action stars
Speaker 2: is what I like to call them.
Speaker 1: Okay, I never heard that. I like that.
Speaker 2: It's nice, right, sex action star.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So when I was in seventh grade, I was going
Speaker 2: to school with this girl and we were like buddy buddy, right,
Speaker 2: and kind of dated a little bit, like seventh grade
Speaker 2: you like, hold hands how you dated. So then like
Speaker 2: fast forward make.
Speaker 1: Fun of them and hold your hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So fast forward to high school and I
Speaker 2: started talking to her again a little bit, and then
Speaker 2: we kind of stopped talking again, and then I heard
Speaker 2: she was in the industry, like maybe twenty twelve. So
Speaker 2: then I don't know, we were just friends. You know,
Speaker 2: it always starts like that, you're just friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's that's how we start with you, you like friends
Speaker 1: or friends of But I.
Speaker 2: Didn't even think of it like that, right. I just
Speaker 2: thought home, she's like getting popular in the industry. It's cool.
Speaker 2: Like I always found that like fighters and porn stars
Speaker 2: or sex action stars, they have something similar because you
Speaker 2: both kind of use your bodies and there's like there's something.
Speaker 1: Similar sexual athletes is what I like to say.
Speaker 2: They're both like primal things like sex is very primal,
Speaker 2: fighting is very primal, and they're and they're kind of
Speaker 2: connected in some way. So I always like, yeah, I always.
Speaker 1: No problem with this, So why did why did things end?
Speaker 1: Was it just because it didn't it wasn't compatible or
Speaker 1: was it because of the industry.
Speaker 2: No. I think me and her like, I just think
Speaker 2: it we just grew apart a little bit. She got
Speaker 2: into different things, I started getting into things, and I
Speaker 2: just think it was bad communication, you know when I
Speaker 2: look back at it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, sexting or FaceTime? Which would you prefer
Speaker 1: with your partner? Are you more into like verbal? Are
Speaker 1: you more visual?
Speaker 2: Like facetiming?
Speaker 1: FaceTime makes you feel like you're really there. Would you
Speaker 1: ever attend a swingers party?
Speaker 2: I probably would have when I was younger, but I
Speaker 2: don't think now.
Speaker 1: Okay, not even just to spectate, just to see what
Speaker 1: it's about.
Speaker 2: I feel like I would get approached by a lot
Speaker 2: of couples like to have sex with.
Speaker 1: Their wife and something like is that something that's been
Speaker 1: approached to you before?
Speaker 2: That happens a lot in Vegas.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like I can see that because people
Speaker 1: there's I mean, it's a fetish guys like to be.
Speaker 2: A cupol and guys will come up to me and ask.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying that's their fetish. So usually there's for
Speaker 1: them to get their wife like fuck what they want
Speaker 1: to watch. So yeah, have you ever agreed to any
Speaker 1: of those things? So we never fucked a man's wife
Speaker 1: while he watched. Would you do you think that you
Speaker 1: have performance anxiety?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're just like a one on one situation. Nice.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on virtual reality sex? Then? I
Speaker 1: would all like the technology they have, like the whole
Speaker 1: Oculus thing. Was that something that is up your alley?
Speaker 1: Are you a gamer thing? Do you think it's just
Speaker 1: too totally far fetched and it's just crazy, Like what do.
Speaker 2: You mean, like just to use myself to experiment? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a little much.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I want to just you know, masterbate, it's
Speaker 2: just gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You go on your phone and it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I actually, growing up, I watched a lot
Speaker 2: of porn I was like obsessed with as a kid,
Speaker 2: and then now I try to like stay away from
Speaker 2: it because it's like I really do see what you
Speaker 2: feed your mind like grow. So I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: like be like a sex fiend all the time and
Speaker 2: really like thinking about that a lot. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 2: still once in a while.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things. I don't think
Speaker 1: that again, when you evolve with age, it's like use
Speaker 1: It's like a dessert.
Speaker 2: You don't want to too many desserts, like you, but.
Speaker 1: You still have to have knowledge in it. You still
Speaker 1: have to be you know, you're well versed in it.
Speaker 1: I feel like because it is part of life. And
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, even though you can't and
Speaker 1: you can over indulge, I feel like you still need
Speaker 1: to indulge to keep it, keep it going. You know
Speaker 1: when you did watch porn, did you it's solo or
Speaker 1: with the partner?
Speaker 2: Uh? Solo?
Speaker 1: Solo? Never watched with a partner.
Speaker 2: I think when I was really young, I did, like
Speaker 2: it was like fun to do in my twenties, like
Speaker 2: twenty or twenty one. But yeah, and so I have
Speaker 2: kind of a crazy story love it. So how it
Speaker 2: all started for me and kind of being involved and
Speaker 2: kind of like talking to a lot of girls in
Speaker 2: the industry and just being familiar with them.
Speaker 1: So was there more than one girl you dated in
Speaker 1: the industry?
Speaker 2: I think there was maybe a couple. Okay, yeah, But
Speaker 2: so when I was nineteen, I had a bunch of
Speaker 2: my friends from high school and they would come up
Speaker 2: to LA and we would like train and spend the weekend.
Speaker 2: And when I first moved to LA, I moved on
Speaker 2: with this girl. Her name is Randy Wright.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know the name. I know the name.
Speaker 2: So she's really a nice girl. And we were like
Speaker 2: on this like brother sister, like right off the bat.
Speaker 2: So we would lie and tell people like we're legit
Speaker 2: brother and sister because she has like black haired black hair,
Speaker 2: so I don't know, it seemed like it went together, okay.
Speaker 2: So yeah, those were like fun times.
Speaker 1: Are you like the wingman for her or was it
Speaker 1: like yeah, okay? Because I was like with I was
Speaker 1: like the brother.
Speaker 2: So like she would date like these crazy Russian guys
Speaker 2: or crazy guys, and she'd be like, if you tell
Speaker 2: this guy to leave and kick him out of our place,
Speaker 2: then I'll pay for rent this month. So she just
Speaker 2: had all kinds of money. And I was going to
Speaker 2: school at the time and I was fighting, and I
Speaker 2: was just like, wow, this is like the life sense yeah,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, I kind of almost like looked up
Speaker 2: to girls like her. And then she had all these
Speaker 2: friends that were like famous and almost start dropping names,
Speaker 2: but she had all these famous friends that were in
Speaker 2: the industry, so I was just kind of like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is cool. I was nineteen nice, so.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're like a little kind of candy store
Speaker 1: but like soaking it all in. So it's like I
Speaker 1: think it's I mean, I think that when people speak
Speaker 1: on you know, so it's like it seems so tabby,
Speaker 1: like oh to have friends, but it's like we're just
Speaker 1: people too, you know. They say there's a lot of
Speaker 1: similarities in either how you train or you do things,
Speaker 1: or your interest and things like that, where it's like
Speaker 1: it's not really that not common, especially being in La ORB.
Speaker 2: I guess I mean, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see, I'm taking it easy on you. You
Speaker 1: should be happy.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
Speaker 1: Weird question, but I feel like, you know, have you
Speaker 1: done anything crazy and participated in an orgy?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a threesome?
Speaker 2: Yeah? When I was like really young.
Speaker 1: So that was like the most number of people. That
Speaker 1: was the followup because orgy is like at least more
Speaker 1: than four So yeah, no, yeah, wow, too wild.
Speaker 2: For you, not too odd, just just never.
Speaker 1: Never came into he never came across a room full
Speaker 1: of women that were like, hey, lets go.
Speaker 2: At my apartment. One time, me and my friends came
Speaker 2: home and I was supposed to be gone for the
Speaker 2: weekend and she was shooting a one guy and ten
Speaker 2: girl orgy. So I came home. I just see all
Speaker 2: these natus first yeah, and this one guy and I've
Speaker 2: been nineteen.
Speaker 1: I was like, lucky him, what you know?
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 1: So that was kind of like go in your room
Speaker 1: and mastermate.
Speaker 2: No, like they were there all day. It was and
Speaker 2: it was a small place, so I just me and
Speaker 2: my friends just like stood around like weirdos.
Speaker 1: And just did anybody become a fluffer?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Your friend's like, man, you live in this all the time.
Speaker 1: Some thing as people typically think like this happens and
Speaker 1: you're like, actually.
Speaker 2: Not it never. It only happened one time. But those
Speaker 2: guys think like, I'm just like the coolest person from
Speaker 2: that one interaction.
Speaker 1: I like it. All right, We're gonna get to my
Speaker 1: game truth with Texas or to ask you a spicy question,
Speaker 1: do you like dirty talk?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is the craziest place you've had sex?
Speaker 2: Craziest place.
Speaker 1: On a train here in La Okay? Okay, we're in
Speaker 1: business class. Were a little like it was just I
Speaker 1: was like really late and okay, okay. I like when
Speaker 1: you get, you know, intimidated by things, you start to
Speaker 1: really start to talk really low, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: who's doing this?
Speaker 2: I almost feel like I'm incriminating myself because I'm like, John's.
Speaker 1: Learning a lot of things about you. He probab already knows.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had anybody throw up on you during sex?
Speaker 2: No, thank god, Okay, I have had like a crazy
Speaker 2: squirter okay into the squirting thing from.
Speaker 1: Sassy or from like play. Okay, so it made a
Speaker 1: huge mess and you were mad.
Speaker 2: I wasn't mad. I was just like, I.
Speaker 1: Mean someone has to clean it up. That's why i'd
Speaker 1: be mad. I'm like, it's like when you're in the hotel,
Speaker 1: you could do things like that, but like in your
Speaker 1: own personal you don't have to get a whole tarp
Speaker 1: and a whole thing.
Speaker 2: You know, there's no warning either.
Speaker 1: You know you let it up. Yeah, that means you
Speaker 1: were good at your job.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll take it I was doing such a good job.
Speaker 1: Do you have a celebrity hall pass? Is there someone
Speaker 1: that you just if you could get any chance, any
Speaker 1: point in your life, this person came into your d
Speaker 1: MS or called you up, a friend told you they
Speaker 1: want to Who would this hall pass?
Speaker 2: Uh? Megan Fox?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. Naughty questions, luber spit paid
Speaker 1: for sex?
Speaker 2: Paid for sex? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Have you paid for sex?
Speaker 2: Paid for sex? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Not pay per view?
Speaker 2: You're like, what I gotten like a happy ending massage before?
Speaker 1: Okay? Have you ever faked an orgasm?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why to get out of the situation?
Speaker 1: So did you like actually go full blown like whatever
Speaker 1: you just stopped doing and you're like, oh, yeah I
Speaker 1: came or were you fully into the commitment? And we're
Speaker 1: just like, ah, whatever you do when you uh? Because
Speaker 1: I personally, until like a year or two probably two
Speaker 1: years now, never knew that men did that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I had a question, did men do this with me?
Speaker 1: Or did it just happen whatever? Like you know, see
Speaker 1: what happened?
Speaker 2: I think I like pulled down act like I came.
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, you were a big actor fake, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you should have a.
Speaker 2: I think I think she's real quiet.
Speaker 1: After Oh that's more embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't that good.
Speaker 1: So maybe you shouldn't go into acting. Yeah, no, are
Speaker 1: you part of the mile high club? Would you want
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be cool, right, It would be cool
Speaker 2: to be on like a private jet, not like economy
Speaker 2: on Southwest.
Speaker 1: You know that's what might happened. It was a night flight,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was okay, But it was the Southwest economy.
Speaker 1: It was I mean there was only one section in Southwest.
Speaker 1: It's economy. Everyone's economy.
Speaker 2: It was not right.
Speaker 1: It was in the back of the bus too. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: night flights, a lot of things could go down.
Speaker 2: It is such a small area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she like picked the seat up and then
Speaker 1: you go like spoon and then that person spoons you,
Speaker 1: and then you have a blanket over. A lot of
Speaker 1: things can happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have it all worked out.
Speaker 1: I did at the time. I mean it was many
Speaker 1: moons ago, but you know it was a fun time.
Speaker 1: It was at least ten years. Biggest turnoff What is
Speaker 1: something that someone can do just completely turn you off
Speaker 1: that you're over it?
Speaker 2: I already said the eating with the mouth open, or
Speaker 2: sexual sexual? Yeah, turn off? Maybe just like that kind
Speaker 2: of hygiene.
Speaker 1: All right, romantic questions, making out or cuddling, making out
Speaker 1: okay cut or uncut?
Speaker 2: Cut?
Speaker 1: Sex life? If it was a title of a song,
Speaker 1: what would yours be? My life be like, ooh, I
Speaker 1: like that dinner or movie date? Uh, dinner, sex on
Speaker 1: the first date? No, okay, where do you like I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to know?
Speaker 2: No, just like sex on the first I just think
Speaker 2: it's thinking about it. It's not going to like I'm
Speaker 2: at the point I'm at now, like, it's.
Speaker 1: Not going to progress to anything. So you're gonna hold out?
Speaker 1: How many dates? Or do you have a one that
Speaker 1: just based off like I.
Speaker 2: Used to do this, Like if I really like a girl,
Speaker 2: be like, I'm gonna wait a month and just primer
Speaker 2: for a month on some dates and talk and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe a little kiss here, how this and that, and
Speaker 2: just a lot of flirting. Because I think a month
Speaker 2: is a good amount of time to like six weeks month.
Speaker 1: But what if you do all that and you're really
Speaker 1: invested in then sex is horrible.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's ever happened like that. No, okay,
Speaker 2: but I mean, yeah it's possible. It's possible, but I
Speaker 2: mean you gotta put in a little effort, right, true? Yeah, true?
Speaker 1: Lights on or lights off on? Naked or lingerie? Do
Speaker 1: you like your woman to dress up for you or
Speaker 1: does it not matter? Okay? Favorite place to be kissed.
Speaker 2: Mmmm?
Speaker 1: Just like my neck, I guess Okay, I feel word
Speaker 1: saying why that's if that's what it is, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. It's okay, it's a safe space, a private talk.
Speaker 1: Kinky questions. Do you have any fetishes, mister vanilla?
Speaker 2: What is your fetish? Kind of like choking and like
Speaker 2: slapping a little bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, so like light bondage, like BDS.
Speaker 2: Up stuff and little like a little like dirty talk.
Speaker 1: Okay, called someone the wrong name during sex, not during sex,
Speaker 1: but yeah, okay. Most number of times you've had sex
Speaker 1: in one day.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe like ten times.
Speaker 1: Or okay, that's way more than I thought you were
Speaker 1: gonna say.
Speaker 2: Okay, I had this one girl. I was just like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: wasn't all the time.
Speaker 1: But she in the industry. No, okay, I found we're
Speaker 1: all normal.
Speaker 2: Sometimes girls that are in the industry they're not as
Speaker 2: sexual outside.
Speaker 1: Very true, you know, because because you work, and so
Speaker 1: it's like you have to either maybe you're working the
Speaker 1: day before or like you need more than just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: let's the fuck. You need a little bit more romancing,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, favorite time of day to have.
Speaker 2: Sex before bed.
Speaker 1: Okay, last question, what is a sex skill that you
Speaker 1: were most proud of? Do you have any sex skill
Speaker 1: that I'm most proud of?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have one.
Speaker 1: Well, you said you made a girl Squirtzian, there's one
Speaker 1: I helped you out. That just cheating.
Speaker 2: That's cheating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I have to ask you one more because
Speaker 1: that's cheating. We can't end like that, okay. Shower sex
Speaker 1: or car sex?
Speaker 2: Car car showers? Like, isn't it too wet?
Speaker 1: Slippery?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like sometimes you get too hot
Speaker 2: and like I can't come. It's like you're getting almost hot.
Speaker 1: You've seen a bigger shower. Yeah, food for thought. All right,
Speaker 1: that is the rest of the truth. With Texas, it
Speaker 1: wasn't so bad. I took it easy on you, you know.
Speaker 1: I tried just the tip and not all penetration. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to scare you away too much.