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<v Speaker 1>An important thing about growing up and being a mature

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<v Speaker 1>adult human being is understanding that what's important to you

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<v Speaker 1>might not be important to your interlocutor, having a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of self awareness, having a clue. As my dad might

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<v Speaker 1>put it, this is the predicament that maybe the presdo

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<v Speaker 1>Bee is in right now, as they breathlessly report. And

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<v Speaker 1>a piece published today, why did Elon Musk spend nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars to help elect David Valadalo? David Valadoe? Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Representatives represents a good portion of King's

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<v Speaker 1>County and Hilary County and some of the.

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<v Speaker 2>South Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently received some million ish dollars from Elon Musk's various

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<v Speaker 1>political action committees that mister Musk funds.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the president, b Storre.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk's America Political Action Committee spent nearly a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars trying to get Representative David Valadeo re elected last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats say that has left the Hanford Republican eager to

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<v Speaker 1>support the billionaire who's been instrumental in pushing for big

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<v Speaker 1>government spending cuts. Republicans counted that such a claim is

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<v Speaker 1>misleading and wrong. Californians will continue to stand with Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Valadeo and reject the dishonest tactics of a party that

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<v Speaker 1>has lost its way, said Christian Martinez, National Republican Congressional

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<v Speaker 1>Committee spokesperson. While Valadeo has praised President Donald Trump often

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<v Speaker 1>and voted with Republicans on major budget issues this year,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no evidence he's been dealing with Musk. He did, though,

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<v Speaker 1>see value to the Department of Government efficiency, where Musk

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<v Speaker 1>has been a driving force. They're trying a different path

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<v Speaker 1>than what we've tried in the past, and other efforts

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<v Speaker 1>we've made haven't been as effective, he told Bakersfield Bakersfield's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three ABC's Mike Hart last week. Democrats see a

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<v Speaker 1>close connection between Musk's views and Valadeo's actions. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>how much he tries to spin it or hide it,

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<v Speaker 1>David Valadeo will always be beholden to his chief campaign financier,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk, said Viet Shelton, spokesperson for the Democratic Congressional

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<v Speaker 1>Campaign Committee. These desperate attempts by out of touch Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>to mislead Californians are not just sad the Republicans, Martinez said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're embarrassing all right, So they look then into Musks

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<v Speaker 1>spending through this America Pack. America Pack as a super

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<v Speaker 1>pack founded and largely funded by Musk. It spent about

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventy three million dollars during the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four election cycle on independent expenditures that means it

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<v Speaker 1>could spend unlimited amounts to boost or oppose candidates. The

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<v Speaker 1>group spent one hundred forty three point eight million to

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<v Speaker 1>help elect Trump last year, according to data compiled by

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<v Speaker 1>Open Secrets and non partisan research firm. Valadeo's campaign was

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to coordinate with Musk's pack. America Pack did

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<v Speaker 1>not respond to a request for comment. FEC records show

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<v Speaker 1>that it tried to help three California members of Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>Valadeo and Representatives Ken Calvert, a Republican from Corona, and

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Steele, a Republican from Steeal Beach. Calvert won and

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<v Speaker 1>Steel lost. The pack spent nine hundred eighty three thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred eighty four dollars to help Valadeo win. He

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<v Speaker 1>had been considered vulnerable since Democrat Joe Biden won his

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<v Speaker 1>district in twenty twenty. And this is the crux of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Musk in the last election cycle became a big time

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<v Speaker 1>Republican funder. He was giving to Republican causes, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was most enthused I think about Donald Trump. He gives

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<v Speaker 1>Trump a bunch of money, and then clearly Republicans were

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<v Speaker 1>talking with him and we're like, hey, listen, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of House seats that are really important and

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<v Speaker 1>really in dispute, and we'd like, you know, for Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to govern, we need, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we win a couple of these House seats.

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<v Speaker 2>Particularly in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Valdeo's seat was going to be very tightly contested. John

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<v Speaker 1>Duarte versus Adam Gray was going to be very hotly contested.

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<v Speaker 2>So they convinced Musk to.

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<v Speaker 1>Use this Political Action Committee to give some money there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that has to be kind of understood.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I mean, we have this breathless story in

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<v Speaker 1>the Fresno b and that's what That's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>leading off with about having a sense of what is

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<v Speaker 2>I think the.

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<v Speaker 1>Alleged hatred for Elon Musk by the American public more

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<v Speaker 1>broadly is overstated. I don't think most Americans really dislike him.

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<v Speaker 2>All that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe some Americans are a little annoyed at whatever role

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<v Speaker 1>he seems to be playing within the current Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like Elon is taking a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the heat that could otherwise have.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone to Trump. Maybe that's part of the point.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think most people despise him, though certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>the way that democrats or the media do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>democrats in the media want to build up enough of

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<v Speaker 1>a body of negative stories on Musk to the point

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<v Speaker 1>that his person, his character, is toxic, and thus any

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<v Speaker 1>connection to him will itself be toxic. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>common thing that the media and Democrats do is try

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<v Speaker 1>to build up a kind of what I call the

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<v Speaker 1>fog of news. We haven't actually established that someone is

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<v Speaker 1>a really bad guy. We just report enough small negative

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<v Speaker 1>pieces about this person to build up the perception in

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<v Speaker 1>the minds of enough of the American public that this

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<v Speaker 1>is an unacceptable kind of person. And that's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do with Musk, and I guess that's I

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<v Speaker 1>just find that to be a little silly, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that Valideo is just a whipping boy for whatever Musk

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do. Look, if you've got Valideo voting on

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of ridiculous spending measure that is going to

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<v Speaker 1>directly benefit makers of electric car companies, including Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can show some kind of direct nexus between

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<v Speaker 1>Valadeo voting on something that's directly benefiting Musk's business interests

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<v Speaker 1>and Musk super Pac gave him a million dollars. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can make a story out of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>that connection hasn't been made the whole idea of super

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<v Speaker 1>Pac funding. So that's this is an important thing to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time, there are campaign contribution limits for

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<v Speaker 1>someone for an individual to give money to.

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<v Speaker 2>A politician.

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<v Speaker 1>So if Elon Musk pulls out his checkbook and wants

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<v Speaker 1>to write a check directly, he himself directly wants to

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<v Speaker 1>write a check to support David Valadeo and meets with

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<v Speaker 1>David Valdeo in his office and says, Hi, David Valadeo,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is an Elon Musk. I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>give you money to help support your campaign. Great, Elon,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you give me? Well, unfortunately, all you can

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<v Speaker 1>do is give me whatever is the top max individual contribution,

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<v Speaker 1>which I believe is like six thousand something dollars. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's under ten thousand dollars. And that's all you

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<v Speaker 1>can do, Elon Musk. That's the limit of your campaign contribution. However,

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<v Speaker 1>if Elon Musk starts a super pack, a super political

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<v Speaker 1>action committee, an organization that exists to provide funding or

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<v Speaker 1>support to political campaigns, he can do that with no

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<v Speaker 1>spending limit whatsoever. The only hitch is that this super

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<v Speaker 1>pack of Elon Musk's it can't and any superpack. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how all super packs work. This super pac cannot

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<v Speaker 1>directly coordinate with the candidate in question, So it Elon

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<v Speaker 1>can't call David Valadeo up and say, hey, David, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna spend a million dollars on your campaign. Oh thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Musk. Why don't you have the money be directed

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<v Speaker 1>towards you know, this amount of mailers and this amount

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<v Speaker 1>of television ads, and put television ads here and play

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<v Speaker 1>some television ads during you know, during this NFL playoff,

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<v Speaker 1>during during this NFL game, and blah blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>bout you know, make sure you have some ads playing

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<v Speaker 1>during the Notre Dame USC game and blah blah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Valideo can't coordinate that with Musk. That's the idea. With

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<v Speaker 1>super PACs, it's a political action committee. It's a free

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<v Speaker 1>standing thing. It can make contributions in favor of in

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<v Speaker 1>support of one candidate or another, but it's not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to coordinate with the candidate or with the candidate's campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not something as a result that Valadeo was

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily directing or coordinating at all, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a relevant part of the story. Now, some people, I

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<v Speaker 1>think roll their eyes at that requirement. Is there some

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<v Speaker 1>coordination that's going on between super PACs and candidates? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there is, but that theoretically has to be maintained,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it's not, there could be penalties. So if

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<v Speaker 1>that's been maintained, it weakens the argument that Valadeo is

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk's whipping boy who just does whatever Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>tells him to do. Secondly, most of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>are being mentioned in this article is about stuff Elon

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<v Speaker 1>wants to cut.

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<v Speaker 2>And what.

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<v Speaker 1>Commitment David Valadeo is going to have towards cutting those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So a big part of the story is about medicaid.

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<v Speaker 1>Musk told Fox Business host Larry Kudlow on March tenth.

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<v Speaker 1>On March tenth, broadcast that waste and fraud and entitlement

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<v Speaker 1>programs such as Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are the

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<v Speaker 1>big one to eliminate. One month since President Trump took office,

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<v Speaker 1>Californians are holding David Valadeo and Ken Calverts to the

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<v Speaker 1>feet for standing idly by where while they're extreme party

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<v Speaker 1>bosses consider taking a hatchet to critical programs like Medicaid

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<v Speaker 1>that families in the Valley and Riverside County rely. On

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<v Speaker 1>set of February twentieth Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee statement. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is why Democrats are pointing all this out.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the present note B is just

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<v Speaker 1>basically acting here as the Democratic parties you know, campaigning

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<v Speaker 1>spokespersons that basically they're trying to make this the big

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<v Speaker 1>argument they want to make. The one way in which

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<v Speaker 1>David Valadeo at one point lost his House seat was

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty seventeen, David Valadeo voted with the other

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans to appeal Obamacare, which would have resulted in a

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<v Speaker 1>shrinking of the pool of people eligible for Medicaid. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why he lost in twenty eighteen. Valadeo lost his House

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<v Speaker 1>seat in twenty eighteen to TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Cox.

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<v Speaker 1>He managed to regain it in twenty twenty, but he

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<v Speaker 1>lost that House seat because of this, because of how

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<v Speaker 1>he voted on Medicaid. And so Democrats want to make

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<v Speaker 1>a direct line of Elon Musk wants to cut Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk gave David Valadeo a million dollars. David Valadeo's

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<v Speaker 1>an evil guy. Now, it is also important to realize

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<v Speaker 1>this with Valadeo, He's not exactly some doctrinaire Republican. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten less credit from the Fresno Bee than David Validat,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Fresno Bee, which tries to position itself, as.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, above the Fray.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't just come out and say, yeah, our editorial

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<v Speaker 1>board is liberal Democrats, and we believe in the political

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<v Speaker 1>priorities of the modern day Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>We are liberals. That's who we are and what we

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<v Speaker 2>believe in.

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<v Speaker 1>And so as a result of our editorial board, we

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<v Speaker 1>tend to support Democrats unless there's something so.

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<v Speaker 2>Absurd that, you know, maybe we'll support a Republican. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>That the Fresno BEE never does that. They should do

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<v Speaker 1>that because basically, when they endorse candidates or oppost candidates anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime it's like really important or just all things being equal,

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<v Speaker 1>they endorse the Democrat like nine times out of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>unless maybe it's it's a race where it's so out

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<v Speaker 1>of reach for the Democrat, maybe they're just like, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But here's David val Here's David Belladale going through puberty

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio. Here's David Valadaloe, who voted to impeach

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump after January sixth, genuinely did that. He actually

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<v Speaker 1>It bought him seemingly like they were, David Valadeo voted

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<v Speaker 1>to impeach President Trump. We respect that decision of his.

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<v Speaker 1>They've never supported him. Here they are running this story,

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars from Elon Musk going to support David Valadeo

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<v Speaker 1>and will he do what David Valadeo wants. There are

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<v Speaker 2>Is this Democrat doing whatever George Soros wants?

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<v Speaker 1>The Fresno Bee would never run a story like that, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>George Soros gave a million dollars to this member of Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahha, David Valadeo is my instrument to inflict my will

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<v Speaker 1>No, David Valadeo is in a tight race. Musk wanted

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the well to George Soros specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>Want big time political financiers do this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They do it at the local level, they do it

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<v Speaker 1>at the national level, they do it at the statewide level.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the whole story about George Soros flooded district

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a conspiracy theory. This is his open,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the idea that we're going to make a

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of money, Is he just going to do

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, Republicans get in Republicans and Democrats get influenced

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<v Speaker 1>to do the things that their donors want. Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>David Valadeo to want to support whatever unpopular thing that

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<v Speaker 3>B breathlessly reports that David Valadeo is aligned with Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk gave him a million dollars, So David Valadeo

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well, is he really was he already

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the whole Republican Party is fairly well aligned

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans nationwide. Of course, he gave more money to local races.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like David Valadeo is his particular creature. Valadeo

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<v Speaker 1>I think a very lazy article that to be published

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat talking point is Elon Musk's you know, support for

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<v Speaker 1>cutting medicaid is, does David Valadeo want to cut Medicaid

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<v Speaker 1>for his constituents? For cutting the Department of Education? Does

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<v Speaker 1>David Valadeo want to cut education? Cutting the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Education being you know, not something at all different from

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<v Speaker 1>that Republicans wanted to do. Anyway, Elon Musk's presence isn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually changing the fact that Medicaid is a massive entitlement.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you either do it with you know, crushing tax

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<v Speaker 1>increases or with cutting something And there's stuff to be

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<v Speaker 2>I will note though, with Medicaid, which is, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, a huge, huge entitlement that I think is approaching

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<v Speaker 1>a trillion dollars in annual spending, there is some argument

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<v Speaker 1>less than a trillion dollars. There's an argument that about

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of Medicaid's expenditures, which is insurance reimbursements, reimbursements

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<v Speaker 1>thirty billion dollars. Like that that is not nothing, that's

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the big picture. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem is that people here that you want

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<v Speaker 2>They have medical. That really drives votes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why David Valadeo lost in twenty eighteen, and Democrats want.

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<v Speaker 2>To repeat that again.

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<v Speaker 1>When we returned some major abortion related news, A massive

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<v Speaker 1>news study about the abortion pill and why it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>That's next on the John Girardi Show. The Ethics and

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<v Speaker 1>Public Policy Center in DC's this DC think tank, sort

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<v Speaker 2>Released a paper.

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<v Speaker 1>That is just released it today by Jamie Brian Hall

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<v Speaker 1>This is the largest study of its kind looking into

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<v Speaker 1>the adverse impacts of the abortion pill. And this couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be more timely with the start of the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Now with the head of the FDA in place, with

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<v Speaker 1>RFK Junior in place, let's talk about it, and let

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<v Speaker 1>me first explain why this is important. So, for just

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<v Speaker 1>am I talking about when I say the word? And

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<v Speaker 2>So this.

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<v Speaker 1>Topic of the abortion pill, I think is largely not

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<v Speaker 1>understood by most of the American public. When I say

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<v Speaker 1>still think of surgery. You think of a surgical intervention

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<v Speaker 1>performed by a doctor. Now, first I'll tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>in California, it doesn't have to be performed by a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be About ten or.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen years ago, the state legislature changed the law to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Before long, California will loose an abortion laws so much

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<v Speaker 1>or will be able to perform surgical abortions. However, over

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<v Speaker 1>sixty percent of abortions are no longer performed surgically, and

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<v Speaker 1>Eight years ago, about thirty nine percent of abortions were

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere around sixty three percent of abortions are performed by

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<v Speaker 1>taking a drug. By taking a pill, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>So basically how the process works is and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>after of a sexual encounter, and its chief mechanism is

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<v Speaker 1>to try to prevent the woman from releasing an egg.

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<v Speaker 2>Ovulating, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time it is genuinely contraceptive. However, it

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<v Speaker 1>so it might be a moortifacient. Its primary mechanism, though,

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<v Speaker 1>a physician, and then you needed a follow up visit,

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<v Speaker 1>and it could only be prescribed in the first seven weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of it like a miscarriage, a miscarriage that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>The later on in a pregnancy that a miscarriage happens,

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<v Speaker 1>the more medical complications there are.

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<v Speaker 2>Likely to be for the woman. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the abortion pill was first approved, it was

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<v Speaker 1>only approved for the first seven weeks with three clinic visits,

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<v Speaker 1>and President Obama said, well, it's safe for seven weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and three clinic visits, so let's make it ten weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and one clinic visit which didn't follow. If it was

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<v Speaker 1>safe this way, what made you think it would continue

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<v Speaker 1>to be safe with fewer safety restrictions. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>more safe before because you had the safety recive restrictions.

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<v Speaker 1>Those safety restrictions are really only an argument for themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not an argument for less safety. So in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama changes a lot of the rules around the

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<v Speaker 1>abortion pill his FDA. In twenty sixteen, only one in

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<v Speaker 1>person clinic visit required, no follow up required, which is critical,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can be prescribed through the first ten weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of pregnancy. And we change the reporting requirements now, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of reporting any adverse incident, you only have to report

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<v Speaker 1>an adverse incident that results in the patient's death. So

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty sixteen, the Centers for Disease Control the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government has not been collecting mandatorially adverse health outcome consequences

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<v Speaker 1>from the abortion pill. As the abortion pill has vaulted

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<v Speaker 1>to being the most dominant method of abortion provision. Where

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<v Speaker 1>today you're there are about six hundred thousand women every

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<v Speaker 1>year having abortions via the abortion pill, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Clear that thousands and thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>Of them are having some kind of adverse health outcome,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not being reported. There were plenty of instances

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<v Speaker 1>of adverse health outcomes when it was required to be reported,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just made the safety standards looser, not stricter. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden ramped this up further. He said that the

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<v Speaker 1>abortion pill. His FDA in twenty twenty one allowed the

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<v Speaker 1>abortion pill to be prescribed with no in person visit,

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<v Speaker 1>just with a telemedicine visit, maybe not even with a doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>with a nurse practitioner or a physician assistant, and the

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<v Speaker 1>abortion pill to be shipped to you through the mail. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this line that the pro abortion advocates have used is

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<v Speaker 1>that the abortion pill it's as safe as taking a toilet,

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<v Speaker 1>all as safe as taking a tilool, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Was always deceptive.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, they tried to compare the adverse outcome rates from

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<v Speaker 1>taking the abortion pill and compared it to overdosing on tilanol.

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<v Speaker 2>Overdosing on tailand.

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<v Speaker 1>All, yeah, was about as safe as taking an abortion

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<v Speaker 1>pill as far as the number of adverse outcomes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But when they frame it as the abortion pills as

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<v Speaker 1>safe as a tile in all, you think, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it has basically no adverse health outcomes like taking

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<v Speaker 1>a tilol.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they were deceptively.

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<v Speaker 1>Manipulating their words and manipulating the data. Now Alexandra Dusanctus,

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<v Speaker 1>who writes for National Review and is a fellow of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ethics and Public Policy Center, has the write up.

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<v Speaker 1>For decades, the pro life movement has maintained that every

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<v Speaker 1>abortion has at least two victims, the unborn child and

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<v Speaker 1>the pregnant mother. From a new report reaffirm that far

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<v Speaker 1>from being a healthcare solution, chemical abortion poses significant physical

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<v Speaker 1>risks to women. This morning, the Ethics and Public Policy

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<v Speaker 1>Center where I am a fellow where she is a fellow,

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<v Speaker 1>released a paper that is the largest known study of

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion pills after effects for women. The research shows

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<v Speaker 1>that chemical abortion is considerably more dangerous to pregnant women

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<v Speaker 1>than the Food and Drug Administration presently admits. Chemical abortion

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<v Speaker 1>uses two drugs, mifopristone, which blocks progesterone from sustaining the

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<v Speaker 1>unborn child, and misupprostyl, which causes contractions that expel the

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<v Speaker 1>unborn child. According to this new research, nearly eleven percent

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<v Speaker 1>of women experience sepsis, infection, hemorrhaging, or another serious adverse

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<v Speaker 1>event within forty five days following a mifipristone abortion. Eleven

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<v Speaker 1>percent of women who go through the abortion pill process

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<v Speaker 1>have some seal cious adverse event.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge rate.

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<v Speaker 1>The drug label from mifepristone, by contrast, claims that less

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<v Speaker 1>than point five percent of women experienced a serious adverse

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<v Speaker 1>event based on results of clinical trials. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>the rate of serious adverse events following chemical abortions appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be at least twenty two times as high as

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<v Speaker 1>the summary figure that the FDA discloses. The new research

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<v Speaker 1>is based on an analysis of data from an all

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<v Speaker 1>payer insurance claims database, including more than eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five thousand prescribed chemical abortions between twenty seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. The point five percent rate presented by

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<v Speaker 1>abortion pill manufacturer dan Co Laboratory, so the FDA is

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<v Speaker 1>running with this rate given by the company that makes

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion pill.

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<v Speaker 2>The FDA says, oh, well, the company that makes.

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<v Speaker 1>The abortion pill says point five percent of all people

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<v Speaker 1>taking it have a serious adverse.

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<v Speaker 2>Event, So we'll run with that.

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<v Speaker 1>The point five percent rate presented by abortion pill manufactured

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<v Speaker 1>dan CO laboratories, and the FDA relies on information from

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<v Speaker 1>ten clinical trials with just shy of thirty one thousand participants.

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<v Speaker 1>The new data set covers twenty eight times as many

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<v Speaker 1>chemical abortions as were included in all the FDA cided

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<v Speaker 1>clinical trials combined. This data is also more current and

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<v Speaker 1>more representative of the American population than the data that

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<v Speaker 1>the FDA relies on for its figures.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>The abortion pill is way more dangerous than we thought.

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<v Speaker 1>When we return what that could mean as far as

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<v Speaker 1>public policy. That is next on the John Gerardi Show.

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<v Speaker 1>New study comes out showing that the abortion pill the

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<v Speaker 1>most common way that abortion happens. Over sixty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>American abortions happen this way is way more dangerous than

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<v Speaker 1>the FDA has ever admitted. Based on a survey looking

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<v Speaker 1>at eight hundred thousand abortions, it shows that eleven percent

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<v Speaker 1>of women experienced some serious adverse event sepsis, hemorrhage, infection.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does this mean public policy wise? Okay, let

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<v Speaker 1>me make this point. The abortion pill is the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>driver of abortion in America today, period, end of sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>full stop. When President Biden changed the FDA's regulations around

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion pill to allow it to be prescribed with

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<v Speaker 1>a telemedicine visit i e. Not in person, and shipped

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<v Speaker 1>to patients directly through the mail, shipped to pregnant women

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<v Speaker 1>directly through the mail, or allowed it to be picked

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<v Speaker 1>up at major pharmacies, it resulted in the total number

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<v Speaker 1>of American abortions jumping by about one hundred thousand extra

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<v Speaker 1>abortions every year, from nine hundred thousand abortions a year

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<v Speaker 1>to a million abortions per year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an enormous jump.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the biggest driver of abortion today, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>a mockery of individual states having laws banning abortion why.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're pills, they're portable, they're shippable.

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<v Speaker 1>The postal Service is not doing a darn thing to

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<v Speaker 1>stop them being shipped through the mail. So it's leading.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some people who are arguing there are more abortions

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<v Speaker 1>happening in Texas now than there were prior to Texas

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<v Speaker 1>outlawing abortion after the Dobs decision. Why because people are

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<v Speaker 1>shipping in the abortion pill, we need to aggressively regulate

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion pill. Now, the Trump administration, you know, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>during the campaign was kind of cagy about, Oh, not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if I want to completely cut off access to

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion pill. But what could the Trump administration do?

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<v Speaker 1>They said, aref K. Junior said during his congressional testimony

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to assess the issue carefully and he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to decide what he and Trump want to

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<v Speaker 1>do as far.

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<v Speaker 2>As regulating the abortion pill.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is relevant new data. It is way more

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous than was ever claimed. So this gives yet more

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<v Speaker 1>ammo to the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>That stricter.

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<v Speaker 1>Regulation, tighter regulation on the abortion pill to make it

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<v Speaker 1>less lucy goosey flying around all over the place is

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<v Speaker 1>necessary and important. And again it's the only thing. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have Dobs on the books, you can have

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<v Speaker 1>individual states limiting abortion. Abortion is still a federal issue,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a federal issue because of the abortion pill.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as Republicans want to say it's a states situe,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a station issue. The abortion pill is regulated by

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government. Its approval is from the federal government,

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<v Speaker 1>from the federal FDA. It has to be decided by

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump, and this gives amo for him to.

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<v Speaker 2>Really aggressively regulate it. That'll do it. John Girardi Show,

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<v Speaker 2>seey'all next time on Power Talk.
