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Speaker 1: Come to another episode of the Crime pas but Botany

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doesn't podcast. This podcast is brought to you by Possibility

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Placed Nursery, a wonderful Midwest nursery for the Chicago tri

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state area where you can go for all of your

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day to day nursery. Native plant Nursery needs. If you

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got to get the job done. You got a tile

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grout job, You got a bathroom you need unplugged. You

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got a bathroom with a door that latches, and you

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worry about getting stuck in a bathroom. You worry about

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getting stuck in a john Possibility Place Nursery. Wait, no,

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I'm sorry, I got a little funny today. I didn't

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read that. Oh look, the Nicothiana's flowering. The native Nicothiana.

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it doesn't last behind you, you know, because some of

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those old school knobs, you know you got the the

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got old school door knob, beautiful vintage stuff doorknob you know,

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from like the nineteen forties and fifties. If you do

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it the wrong way. This almost happened to my ma.

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She got stuck in to John. Honest to God, she

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couldn't get out. You know, she got a little shit

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to that dog couldn't help her. What's he gonna do?

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He can't, you know, his little paws. He can't even

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reach the knob and so, and her phone wasn't with her.

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So she was, honest to God, stuck in to John

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for a good twenty minutes. She eventually figured out how

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to use, you know, some tweezers or something to get

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the thing. Oh but that could happen to you. But anyway,

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going to help you if you're stuck in to John.

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But what they will help you with is if you

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need some native plants for the Chicago trist Day region.

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You're unsure what the plant, and you want more than

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just you know, oaks and maybe some golden rod, right,

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you want some rare stuff, some really cool stuff, some

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of the rare milk weeds. They have a lot of

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rare milk weeds. They got a bunch of the cool

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native oaks that nobody grows. Okay, this is not basic

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bitch garden center. Shit, this is wonderful stuff. It's run

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by two brothers and they got a wonderful staff. I

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did a show there last year. Their fucking excellent Possibility

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over to your house and I'm gonna find out you

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know where your sock drawer is, and I'm putting you

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rushy All tincture in all your socks and you're gonna

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have itchy feet for days. So you probably have to

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go get a you know, a steroid shot or something

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to get the to get the rash to go down, because, honest,

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the guy, you know, there's some of the a lot

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of the stuff they sell Walgreens, like the you know,

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calamine lotion doesn't really work that well anyway. Possibility Place

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Nursery located in beautiful Money, Illinois. Get your ass down there.

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It's worth the drive. And make sure you get a

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lot of space in your car so you can load

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up a bunch of shit and drive back. Okay, restore

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the native plant habitat at the Chicago Tri state region

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and piss off your Karen neighbors at the same time.

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I kind of actually piss them off, but then be

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really nice to them and indoctrinate them into a plant thing.

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Some native plants too. Anyway, welcome to the crime pays,

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but Bodny doesn't. Podcast. I'm leaving for the Philippine tomorrow

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and I couldn't help. But you know, I couldn't help.

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But think about something happened to me today, and it's honest.

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I got one of my worst fears. I was going on.

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I went on a run. My little running shorts are

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just my camel shorts. They are like camel cargo shorts.

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And I just had a white T shirt on and

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some running shoes and I ran, you know, near the

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golf course, because the golf course it's like a public

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golf course. But that's the closest thing we can get

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where I live, to open space. It's how the paper

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it in any kind of native plant. The weariness South

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Texas is, but it's changing. Anyway. I went on a

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run there and then I stopped to pee behind a tree.

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where there's a walking trail where you know, the uh

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much of like well to dose you might call them

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Karens they're probably not. Some of them are probably wonderful people.

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I don't know. But I was pissed behind a tree

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and then out of nowhere, this lady walked on the

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other side of the fence. Uh that was me. I

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was scared, you know, and I was on the phone

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while I was too. I just it spooked me. And

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now I'm then I got worried. Oh my god, I

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hope this lady didn't see my wiener. Is she gonna

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call the cops on me for indecent exposure? Because a

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lot of these you know, you're like a board housewife

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or something. You got a lot of time on your hands.

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Maybe not all, not all hashtag not all, but you know,

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you live in this world of paranoia, especially if they're

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watching Fox or something. They think everyone's out to get them,

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you know, to gu Guatemalan migrant trains coming up and

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bringing COVID with them. This is like some circa twenty

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twenty one stuff. But still just stick with me, you know,

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so you never know what stories people are telling themselves

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in their minds. And anyway, it scared me, and that

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that actually happened to me once in two thousand and

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nine at Chicago Botanic Garden. And there your Chicago Botanic

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Gardens doing great stuff now, right, they're doing great stuff.

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They have a native plant garden. They've still got a

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lot of the horticultural atrocity garden that the wealthy. Because

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it is in the north shore of Chicago, they've got

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a lot of the horticultural atrocity stuff that the wealthy

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want or think they want. They don't really know what

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they want. But uh, but you know, they got a

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bunch of great natives now. And they have a wonderful

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library full of botanical monographs. If you can go, if

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you can go lurk in that library at Chicago Botanic

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Garden up there. And what is that god awful suburbs

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in I forget Anyway, if you can go up there,

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it's worth it. But uh but regardless, I was peeing

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in the bushes and and you know, next thing, I know,

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security rolls up fifteen minutes later, and you know, this

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is this guy who kind of looks like remember Pat,

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like the old Saray Live character. He didn't look like

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a healthy man. He was like he looked like a

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chubby or Pat. No offense to anyone over, I'm just

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saying his complexion. He looked like a vampire too, Like

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the guy doesn't get out much. He's a security guard.

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He's driving around a golf court, golf course court cart

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excuse me, Jesus Christ, and you know he's probably not

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having the best lot in life. I'd be amazed if

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he's still alive, to be honest. Anyway, he comes up

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to me and he's just looking at me like I'm

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a degenerate already. I can tell where he's going with this.

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And he says, sir, you are going to be arrested.

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We have just called the police. And I said, fucking

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for what? And he goes, you exposed yourself to all

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those old ladies in that shed over there. And I

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guess at the time, the main building was under construction,

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so there was a shed. I've told this story on

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the podcast before. There was a shed with some heavily

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tinted windows you couldn't see in, but I guess they

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could see out clear as day. And I was, I

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mean I was, I was in the bushes. There's no

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way these old ladies saw my wiener. But regardless, they

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called the cops on me, and next thing I know,

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you know, I'm having to flee the scene with my

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son and his mother at the you know, we got

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on our little beaterter car and drove the wrong way

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out that we had. We had to make a break

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for it, right, And I've long since forgiven Chicago Botanic

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Garden for this, But this did happen anyway. In other news,

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somewhat weak news, I've spent the last few days and

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the last week really going on and off driving out

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to Star County down here in South Texas and the

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borderlands of South Texas, the underappreciated borderlands of Texas where

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the dominant culture so thoroughly hates the native plant, the

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native plant cover. You know, it's a result of survival mentality.

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Chicano population, Hispanic as they call it, anyway, And it's

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a result of classism, which is of because New Mexico

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is thoroughly rife with classism. Of course, you go to

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the cities, there's this strong, strong hatred of the poor

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in many places. And so it's a result of many factors,

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and the fact that plants are spiny, and the fact

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that it's so hot, you know, and it's car cultures,

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a lot of people stay inside, and the fact there's

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not much native habitat left for people to actually have

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exposures to, so not a lot of people know what

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quote unquote nature is. And they think when you say plants,

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that you should be referring to nicely manicured turf grasses.

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And I will lead a home destot garden center plants.

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You know, horrendous shit, shit that makes me feel like

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dying on the inside. The the dollar store version of nature,

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et cetera. We don't even give into it. I've done

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this before, but anyway, went out to what should have

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been a parcel of property that should have been a

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federal preserve, right, get the fiket into the Fed's hands

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because Texas can't take care of its land and uh

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and or at least maybe Texas State Parks and wildlife.

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So I don't know, it's whatever, just shouldn't be in

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private hands because there was a critically endangered species there.

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There was. It was just this incredible habitat, These goliad gravels,

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these rounded pebbles that were brought by an ancestral river

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in the last few million years deposited here. They're all

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they've all been rounded and uh, and then they were

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cemented in this caliche like matrix and this is the

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substrate there. So good luck for the track houses they're building.

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They're trying to have Saint Augustine lawns with irrigation. I

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don't think that's gonna work out too nice for him,

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but it will be fun watching them try. This whole area,

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you know, these these South Texas plains, these hills. Amazing plants.

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They are Guayacan, guyacum and Gustafolium zygopalesi, the Creoso family.

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My favorite amargosa as it's as it's colloquially known, amargosa

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just means bitter and Spanish castilla erect the incredible plant. Beautiful,

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wonderful food for birds with the little red berries. You know,

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red flowers, red, four petaled flowers, axillary. They come directly

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out of the stems. The stems taper and sharp points.

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It's got very narrow leaves without a petiole, where if

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there is a petiole, it's very small. Pubestance on the stem,

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pubestants on the other side of the leaf. Wonderful fucking

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shrub and it's got it. They does root compassing like

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many thorn scrub plants too, just like the same way

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you can compass a tree. Many of these roots are

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coppassed roots. It looks like a candelabra where you look

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at extra vision under the ground, it would look like

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a condolabra, you know, or a menora or something, and uh,

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just really cool. And of course that's an adaptation to

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frequent browsing and herbivy in dry climates, so that these

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plants can dive back to these massive underground roots that

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they form, these roots that have massive you know, lateral

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extensions of shoots and end up forming little colonies. Cobralinea

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does this, Guyacon does this. Castilla erected does this. Cideroxalon

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cell astrinum, which is edible Sapa tasi, the coma as

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it's collectively known, uh, that does this as well. And

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if you I was looking up papers on root coppice

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saying in thorn scrub plants, and actually a lot of

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what I came up with was from thorn scrub habitats

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in India, you know, seasonally dry areas in India with

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similar vegetation completely unrelated for the most part, I'm sure,

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but the similar strategies, you know, And that's that's just

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something you see all over the globe, unrelated plants doing

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the same things in similar climates, evolving the same strategies.

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Convergent evolution. It's wonderful to see. It's really really cool.

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Now you see how the landscape directly breeds plants depending

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on where it is, right, if you're in the prairies

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of the Midwest, or the chaparral and Mediterranean climate of California,

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or the Autakamma Desert, the fog deserts, fog deserts of

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the Atakamma fog deserts of Baja California, serve fog deserts

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of Namibia, et cetera. You see the same things evolving

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and unrelated plants if the same lineages are not there,

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because there's no cac die in the old world, right,

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but you'll see cacti in the Atacamma Desert fog depending cacta. Anyway,

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I'm I'm getting ahead of myself here, So spent the

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last few days there salvaging plants, digging plants like astrophyte

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and mysterious and a kind of serious fitch yea. The

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cactie are really easy obviously, because he can rip the

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roots up, which you're always going to do anytime you

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dig plants unless you have a tree spade, and and

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so you're gonna you're gonna rip the roots up. But

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the cacti, because they have all that stored energy, you

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could just form new roots. And so we were mostly

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going for a lot of these critically endangered cactie like

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astrophytem and a kindo serious pitchyi, and thelocactus bicolor and

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horse crippler's homolocephalath Tex census. Then I went for some

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you know, little orbaceous things too. There's an iso coma

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out there, which is astacy, which should be a shrub

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that's in all the shopping centers of McAllen. It would

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go great, you know, in these parking lots. Wonderful shrub

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with yellow flowers that would thrive there all the thorn

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scrubs stuff. When you see where it's growing, and it's

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growing in places where it doesn't get any water, and

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it's so it's so extreme, and then you bring it

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into the cultivation, you you know, you water it, it

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fucking thrives, right, And you gotta spend like a smidgeon

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a fraction of the water they that they water these

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parking lots and these bleak strip malls with. You spend

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a fraction of that and this stuff would look great.

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You know, every time I go to these shopping centers

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down here, these bleak shopping I don't know why there's

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not Palo Verde. There's all the Palo Verde, which is

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like a weed tree here. You see it just sprouting

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up in these empty, empty lots, these vacant lots that

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got cleared and then will soon be you know, they

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weren't developed right away, they said, vacant for a few years.

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Like palo Verde Parkinsonia aculiata springs up in a SODA's

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misky and they all look fucking great, despite the fact

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we're in a brutal drought right now. All the Palo

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Verde is flowering right now, five hundred thousand yellow flowers

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right next to a sign that says lot for sale

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coming soon, you know, duplexes. And then it's got a

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picture of some fucking frace that with lip injections and

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you know, more makeup than a drag queen. It just

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just fucking crazy. It's I mean, it's like living in

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a death called. It really is. And I have to

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code switch when I'm trying to convince members of the

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Death Cult to come to the side, you know, or

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just you know, you gotta just like be really nice

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and just explain to them that, you know, they've been

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indoctrinated to be afraid of nature. They don't know what

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nature is. They've been indoctrinated to love the English Victorian

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European garden style, and they've been brainwashed, basically, and that

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it doesn't make sense to have the English Victorian European

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garden style here in South Texas where it's summer for

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eleven months out of the year and maybe we'll get

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twenty inches of rainy year, maybe not, but it's due

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to the heat. It doesn't even matter. It's still dry

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tropical scrub, right, And so it doesn't make sense to

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try and have a lawn or this English Victorian And

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why do you think that stuff is pretty to begin with?

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Because I see it. I think it looks horrific. I

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think it's it looks goofy. It's like it's like a

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lady with too much makeup on it. It's like, you know,

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some dude that that just goes to the gym and

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just does the same chest exercises every day. It looks

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fucking goofy. That doesn't look like it doesn't look like

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an actual fit human being. He looks like someone who's

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worried more about his appearance. Right, there's an explain that

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to him, be nice. Why do you want this? Why

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do you Why do you think leaves on the ground

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are messy? Because that's what you hear sometimes when you

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convincing people to plant trees so they can shade the

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ground and you know, mitigate the effects of the urban

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heat island, all that concrete and asphalt heating up and

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then you know, containing heat and then radiating it at night,

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making the whole area hotter. You want shade, but people

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don't want shade because they think the trees are messy.

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How do you reverse this brainwashing? How do you do it?

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How do you convince these people that that it's it

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makes more sense to you know, because I think anybody

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you show him a good native plant garden or fucking

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a piece of habitat after a rain, because everything kind

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of looks like shit right now due to the drought.

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You show them a piece of habitat after the rain.

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I think anybody is gonna say that that's beautiful. You

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just got to keep getting them, getting them out there, right.

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The fact the problem is they've never they've never been

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out there, they've never been exposed to it, and they're

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afraid of it. They've been in doctrine. They've been brainwashed.

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How do you reverse the brainwashing. That's what you need

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to do. You need to change the culture. Then you

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can worry about fucking with the laws and rewarding people

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for having native plant gardens and incentivizing it whatever. But

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you got to change the culture. How do you do it? Right?

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Don't go like the twenty three year old septum piercing round.

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No offense to anybody who's twenty three or has a

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septim piercing, but don't just shit all over it. Right.

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You want to reach out to people, you want to

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think like a criminal, right, don't be loud and boisterous

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and stupid, think like a criminal. Be strategic. I just

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use the criminal analogy because it's what you know. It

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just what makes sense to me. I mean, it's the

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society's a scam. People have been indoctrinated. Think strategically like

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a criminal. Many white collar people are criminals too. You

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could think like, if it makes you feel anybody who

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don't like the criminal analogy, you think like that, Well,

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you know there's a lot of white collar criminals, all

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these bankers and shit think like them. Be strategic. You

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have an end goal. How do you get there? How

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do you convince these goofy focks, but don't call them

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goofy focks, you know, to treat them with respect. How

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do you convince them that they've been indoctrinated to be

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afraid of it? How do you do that? Because that's

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what we need to do anyway, salvaging all these plants.

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I was just I just numbed myself to it. I

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try not to think about it. It feels fucking terrible.

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While I'm in the act of doing it. A nice

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Xylo copa bumblebee, by the way, just flew by me,

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and so it really hit me the next day when

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I got home. When I was home, and I was

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just like, fuck man, I was potting up with these

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cact i. My goal is to just kind of hold

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on to them till I can figure out what to

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do with them and farm sea off them. But when

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I was out there, it was an excellent opportunity to

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look at the root systems of a lot of these plants.

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And it was the same thing I was doing in

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Brownsville two weeks prior at the housing subdivision where that

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Texas caper quadrilla and cana a relative of true capers,

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a shrub to about ten feet tall. Another you know,

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criminal that this thing is. It's criminal that this thing

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is not in cultivation. It's such a fucking dope beautiful

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tree and it's got all the adaptations that growing in

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this climate, requiring minimal care and water, right like silvery

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leaves with with pubescents on them, really cool flowers. I

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know the genus quadrilla, it used to be a true

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in the genus caper. Was in the related to capers,

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but it used to be in the genus Caparis. But

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that's an old World genus and this is a New

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World genus. I guess the two lineages have been separated

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long enough by that Atlantic Ocean that they've they were

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warrants different genus designation. And I've seen quadrilla in Costa Rica.

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There's two other seen a quadrilla species in Costa Rica

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in dry tropical forests and another quadrilla species in dry

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tropical forest and Dominican republics. So these are dry. These

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are drought adapted trees the dry tropical forests. They get

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high rainfall, but then it doesn't rain for six months

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and it's still hot as ball. So it's kind of

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like a desert. It's similar conditions to a desert, but

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technically not a desert. And so we were at the

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site in Brownsville, and it turns out the Brownsville Forester

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wonderful man hunter followed me, saw me posting about this

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rare plant that grows at this you know, bleak McMansion

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subdivision that's going up. So much development going up all

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over the world, at least in the Americas, in Canada

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and Mexico and the United States. Just saw someone else

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wrote me an email about some shit that's going on

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in Ontario where the government removed the endangered species designation

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at the behest of developers. The developers own, the politicians,

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the developers. I mean, this is still you know, there

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was a halt for development around the mid two thousands,

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I feel like, and then it really picked back up

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the last decade, and this has become our economic model.

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We don't sell anything, we can't make anything. We're defunding science.

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We've got a population full of dummies that's only growing

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exponentially dumber by the day. And so now our economy

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is built around developing what little undeveloped land remains for

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shit that nobody needs. Under a manufactured housing crisis, investors

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bought up a lot of the housing. That's why there's

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none of it. That's why you can't buy a home,

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one of the reasons. And so anyway, and so now

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it's you know, oh, we need more housing. We need

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more housing. So let's we were coming for your fucking

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wild lands. That's what's going on. They're robbing the commons,

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these shit bag developers, they're terrorists, right, these fucking sleazy businessmen.

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Listen to George Carlin's rant on Businessman. That'll make you

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feel better. It's a nice one. Wish the guy was

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still alive, not for his sake, for ours, right, he

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would be very upset, but he did some wonderful links

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to say. Anyway, but at that sight in Brownsville, so

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they that this guy followed me Hunter who I'm now

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friends with He turns out he's the forester for the

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city of Brownsville. He got the city to actually remove

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these quadrilla trees, these caper trees to the Brownsville Public Library.

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And actually knew the developer too, and so and got

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along with the developer. The developer was actually, you know,

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because we were nice to him, well he was. I

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didn't really interact with the guy and so developer was

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all for it. And because there's no stopping this development

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after it's already it's already been started, they've already cleared

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most of the land, and so we moved it. But

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while I was there, I was digging up quadrilla. No,

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I was digging up guyacon because there were these guyacon

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There was an area where they had cleared, they had

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bulldozed guyacon, but it was re sprouting like little clumps

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of green leaves. And I would dig up that massive

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root and it would be like a you know, two

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inch diameter, chunky root with barely any root hairs. I

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would dig that up and then put it in. I

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took those in a pot. I realized there's enough stored

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energy in this massive root. Cut off some of the leaves,

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not all of them and then put it in a

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pot and uh, and they're they're doing well. Now, almost

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all of them survived, right, And so but I realized

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this is a very peculiar rooting structure, these roots, Like

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that's how Guyacon forms these massive colonies. It'll get browsed,

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you know, mowed down by herbivores, but it's got these

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It puts a lot of energy into building these thick

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roots so that it can re sprout in response to

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both drought and herbivores, not fire so much because there's

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not a lot of fire here because there's not a

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lot of rain. There's not a lot of rain. It's

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not like Florida, where there's you got these fire dependent

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habitats because they get sixty inches of any year. They

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just have a long dry season. But you've still got

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a lot of lightning. There wasn't really enough lightning. I

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don't think fire had really had a place in the

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thorn scrub castilla right that did the same thing the

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root coppicing. So it's a really cool I mean, it's

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not a lot of people think about that, think about

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the roots on these things because you don't ever see them.

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But for me, it was just It was fucking really revealing,

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really cool. Just again adaptations to environment, plants being bred

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by the landscape that they've spent millions of years evolving in.

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And so you'll see the same thing with even the

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fucking cacti down here, the kind of serious post selgerai,

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the pencil cactus, which blends in with its environment. It

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blends in with the white you know, it gets like

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the like half inch diameter, ever more than that, but

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it'll be four feet tall. Just this tall spindley cactus

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that grows up amongst the shrubs, perfect camouflage. The fines

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make it white. A lot of the the bark of

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these shrubs is white. Of these stems, most of the

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stems are about the same diameter as the cactus. You

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get like multiple branching shrubs, and so it blends right

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in and then you see it. It just fucking dope plant,

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just pink, giant pink flowers. Right. Most of the plants

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that Thorn Scrub's Sanctuary, our conservation property look like shit

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right now because of the drought. But it kind of

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series post sugar i was blooming because it's got that

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massive tuber, it's got these peanut like tubers in the ground,

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like five of these, like thick tubers it forms. It's

465
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not like a single tuber. It's like five thumb sized,

466
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,480
peanut like tubers that just store a lot of energy

467
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:44,039
so that this thing can re sprout one of its

468
00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:48,359
spindly stems. Should that spindly stem get broken off, who's

469
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,599
a Texas spiny lizard hanging out? Thank god, it's nice.

470
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,000
I thought those guys were all gone. The feral cats

471
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:58,519
got them. Feral cats got my Inca though. I was

472
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:02,160
so bummed. Inca dove was nesting right outside my door.

473
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,200
She was never gone for more than five minutes, and

474
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,160
I came out when one morning and she was gone.

475
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,039
She wasn't there. There's no hawks, there's no owls that

476
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:11,839
I saw. Maybe an owl got her. It was probably

477
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,720
a feral cat. Though. She's got to turn them. You

478
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:16,720
gotta turn the feral cats to a fertilizer, just like

479
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:21,680
you got. It's only only answer, right. You can't take

480
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480
them to the shelters anymore because the shelters won't put

481
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:26,559
them down. They won't take them, or they won't put

482
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,960
them down because the crazy cat ladies have infested all

483
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,759
the shelters and convinced them that TNR works trapped near

484
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:36,480
to return save every life except the lives of the

485
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,519
endangered birds and other native wildlife, to save the cats.

486
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:43,680
Thank you, yes, toxa pleasantmosis. I've been huffing litterboxes for

487
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,920
the last twenty years, but a kind of serious posegray.

488
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,640
We found one of those yesterday and I dug it up,

489
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,480
and I realized, I don't think I've ever made a

490
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:54,839
video on the tuberous roots of that species because I

491
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,799
don't ever want to dig one up. But this land

492
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,160
was about to get fucked, this land in Stark County.

493
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:02,759
We've moved on from the Brownsville rescue. Now we're back

494
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:04,839
in star Krrie. I've been doing plant rescues the last

495
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,240
two weeks. It's fucking brutal. That's how bad the development

496
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,920
is done here. It's probably just as bad where you are.

497
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:14,920
And so I did a short video on the roots

498
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,039
of this pencil cact, the species as it's called, and

499
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:24,039
got some good photos. It's such a fucking dope plant too,

500
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,279
and it's so easy to propagate. You can graph them.

501
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,920
I'll take an inch long section, like an inch long

502
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,319
section of pencil, split it right down the middle of

503
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:36,279
the razor blade. Both of those onto a stock like

504
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,519
Tricho serious. Trico serious section the probably the best graphic

505
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:42,039
stock because it grows so fast and then you can

506
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,480
get it ends up looking like an upside on squid.

507
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,759
Then you can take little sections of that, like six

508
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:51,039
foot sections, root those and you know, cut it, root those,

509
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:54,160
and then the graph just keeps sending up more shoots.

510
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,119
Your root those and then give them away to people,

511
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,119
get them to plant them. And the site selection is

512
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,039
very important. Though. You got a plant that around a

513
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:05,079
shrub but not too shady. You wanted to get good light.

514
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,480
So an sistro cactus shirai is another cactus with tuberous roots,

515
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,920
big thick potato like roots. That's which made us so

516
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,400
desirable by the feral pigs, which I just went and

517
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,160
shot the fourth one in the last two weeks, got

518
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,319
another one to go. They're headless, so we'll be doing

519
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,839
this forever, but you know it's worth it prevents them

520
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:32,119
from destroying plants. This thing must have weigh two hundred pounds.

521
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,960
It was a mean motherfucker. I brought my Air fifteen

522
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,400
out there, the Air fifteen clod, because I hadn't oiled

523
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,079
it like a dummy, and so instead I got I

524
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,480
had a twenty two handgun in my truck. I went

525
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:43,359
and got that shot in the head nine times with that.

526
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,039
It finally went down, but it died behind the door

527
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:47,559
of the trap. So I had to get in the

528
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,880
trap with this thing with massive tusks. Thing could have.

529
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,400
This thing would fuck you up. You know. I can't

530
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,759
imagine what you would do if you encountered one of

531
00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:59,200
these things and it was coming for you, and you

532
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,440
didn't have a gun or like a tree to climb anyway.

533
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:03,839
So I got in and I was I had to

534
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,039
drag its head on the other side of the door.

535
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,160
This thing weigh two hundred pounds easy. And then I

536
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,000
had to drag it out of the trap because you

537
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,240
don't want it to die in there, because then you

538
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:14,400
can't use the trap. The trap will smell like dead pigs.

539
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,839
So I dragged it to a fucking field so the

540
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:20,400
caracaras and vultures can go to town on it. Maybe

541
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,839
some coyotes too. They certainly enjoyed the last one, judging

542
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,160
from the tracks and the coyotes scat I found nearby,

543
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,880
and and then I fed the ecosystem with this thing.

544
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,920
But I picked up fleas while I was dragging this

545
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,960
thing out too. I got bit by like two fleas,

546
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,079
and I'm hoping I don't get typhus or barton nolla

547
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,759
or whatever. The fuck. There's so much nasty shit these

548
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:45,519
things carry. God, I hate farro pigs, but uh, but

549
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,759
anceistro cactus another cactus with a big tuberous root. It

550
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:53,640
gets about six inches tall and it's got massive fingerlike,

551
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:57,839
fat finger like roots that go down eight inches into

552
00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:00,519
the soil from which it can re spread out from.

553
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,279
Should drought and sun get too extreme, or should it

554
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:09,839
get kicked off and nibbled on, et cetera. Really cool adaptations,

555
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,119
And then you just think, again, what why does it

556
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,519
do this? Why does it produce these roots? What are

557
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:20,079
the conditions that selected via natural selection for these traits? Ah,

558
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,519
the sound of leaf blowers. I'm in I'm in the

559
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:28,440
suburbs of Austin, now state, Atjavier's house last night, flying

560
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:32,559
out today at six pm, and it's just, you know,

561
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,319
just the sound of leaf blowers, the sound of pointless

562
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:41,200
busy work in the background, the u Nandina domestica everywhere

563
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:47,279
invading beautiful Edwards Plateau vegetation. God, you get some fucking

564
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:50,359
amazing native plants here. It's incredible. But no, this isn't

565
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:54,079
good enough, you know, it's you gotta improve it somehow.

566
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:57,559
We're gonna put some fucking privets, and we're gonna put

567
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:01,279
some Nandina domestica. We'll leave a couple the juniperse the

568
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:04,920
satyrs as they call, oh God, horrible privet. I'm just

569
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,559
it's at what point am I just gonna start advocating

570
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,200
as vitex that's another horticultural atrocity. At what point am

571
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,839
I just gonna start advocating for teenagers board teenagers? Because teenagers,

572
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,759
I mean, that's the age you can really get away

573
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,680
with some van delicious shit, you know, and you've got

574
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,160
the compulsion anyway, you really do when you're that age.

575
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,680
And I can't blame them, especially if you grow up

576
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,200
in a place like this, in any suburban setting in

577
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,559
North America. At what point am I gonna just start

578
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:38,759
advocating that they go out and they just start sawing down.

579
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,000
Learn plant identification, learn the three bed and basives from

580
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,680
your area, and just go out and start just sawing

581
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,839
those down whenever you see them in private landscaping, right,

582
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:53,559
it's a you know, the homeowner doesn't get a choice anymore.

583
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:57,640
You're gonna you're gonna plant this shit that invades the

584
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000
surrounding area, or you're gonna hire something shit landscaper. And

585
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:04,640
most of them are dipshits in my experience, not all landscapers,

586
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,599
but most of them. What the fuck is this guy

587
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,079
doing all? He's hedging shit with a And it's not

588
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,640
the worker's fault, of course, they're just employed. But imagine

589
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,880
if the workers were employed planting and maintaining shit that

590
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920
actually spent millions of years evolving there and benefited all

591
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,839
the life and led to you know, an abundance of life,

592
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:27,799
of native life, cool insects, all the little fucking Xylocopa

593
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,359
bumblebees I've seen buzzing around my yard, shit like that,

594
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,400
you know, the cool native birds. Imagine it got just

595
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,680
these fucking sounds. Man, it's every three houses, holy shit,

596
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:42,799
but they have an aneurysm. This fucking smells like two stroke,

597
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:48,519
two stroke engine fuel. And then just these buzzing sounds,

598
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,759
just just fucking mindless busy work. He go stand on

599
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,079
a corner, go go go buzz this thing around the bunch.

600
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,440
Well there's Vitex volunteering. Can you hear this? I want

601
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,480
you to hear it too. Just stupid shit. You get

602
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,559
the leaf blower out, just moving shit around. This is

603
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:10,200
what the twentieth century is gonna be remembered for. In

604
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:12,640
the early twenty first century, shit like this. So I

605
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920
gotta turn this off for a second. It's too fucking loud.

606
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,799
This is amazing. I almost got hit by somebody who

607
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:22,039
had the complexion of a vampire driving a Mercedes SUV.

608
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:26,599
That was nice, you know. And the rich cunts that

609
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000
order this shit done, they don't have any They never

610
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,160
do they these fucks ever set foot on their like

611
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,519
in their yards. Certainly not in the front yard. Maybe

612
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,359
in a back you have a barbecue or something. But

613
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,240
and Austin's not even that bad. I mean, there's people,

614
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,240
there's a couple people got a gaves and some fucking lucophylums,

615
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:46,799
and there's a lot of hainey shit do. I'm not

616
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:51,279
gonna lie, but uh, but you know, you gotta get

617
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:55,720
the teams out here, just start vandalizing. Just hey, you

618
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,279
want Nina in your yard. One of the landscapers put in, ooh,

619
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,799
there's roos v that's a nice native right next to

620
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:07,480
a giant privet. Invasive. You want Naandina in your yard

621
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,319
and you don't get to have it. I'm sorry. The

622
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:15,519
community's vetoed that, you know. Or Neesto who's only fourteen

623
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:20,720
just started listening to some profanity laden hip hop and

624
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,079
has a grudge against the world at least for the

625
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,640
next two years. He's gonna go out and he's gonna

626
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,960
veto your decision to plant Nandina in your yard. Or

627
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,759
Jonathan who's thirteen and quite angry. He's gonna go out

628
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,559
and he's gonna in the middle of the night saw

629
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440
down your crave myrtle. You don't get to have these things.

630
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,200
The community has vetoed it. I'm sorry. But there's checks

631
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,599
and bounces all throughout life, just like in an ecosystem,

632
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,720
there's checks and bounces, and don't you don't get this anymore,

633
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:58,799
And don't forget little Andrew, Okay, just turn fifteen. He's

634
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:01,359
got a real fucking chip on his shoulder. He doesn't

635
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:05,079
know what it's, what it's at, but uh, but he's

636
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:07,880
gonna come and he's gonna he's gonna remove some of

637
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,199
your Bradford pears for you right there at about three am,

638
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,840
you know, right late in the night. He's got an

639
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,000
electric chainsaw. It's battery operated. It's very quiet, very very quiet,

640
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:21,559
especially in a windy night. You can't even hear it.

641
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,719
You're just gonna come out and the thing's gonna be.

642
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,599
It's gonna be laying on the ground in front of

643
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,800
your shitty house, your shitty expensive house, your shitty Nuevo

644
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:37,239
riche gaudy ass beautiful brickwork house with a nice lawn

645
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,880
in front. At what point der Matto file him? But

646
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,559
it was a it was kind of cool. I was

647
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:49,639
walking on his neighborhood and and uh, there's a couple

648
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,840
little lots. I think it's like, where's you know, the

649
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,199
homeowner adjacent to it probably bought that house a long

650
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,239
time ago. It came with a lot and there's nothing

651
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,719
on it yet. It's just the it's still undeveloped, you know,

652
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:07,760
the adjacent lot is, and there's remnant vegetation. There's some

653
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,800
nice remnant vegetation. So you can get caught the fuck

654
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,559
every fucking three houses there's there's just fucking buzzing busy work.

655
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,679
What do you do if you're you're home sick. You're

656
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:25,000
gonna go neurotic, right, You're homesick from worker so you

657
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,679
got a bad case of the flu. You're pissing out

658
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,639
your ass, you're trying to sleep. You're just being lulled

659
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:33,639
to sleep, you know, long long nap during the day

660
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,400
so you can recover, get your electrolytes back, and you're

661
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:42,039
just being lulled to sleep by the And then you

662
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:45,840
realize there's a whole industry that's employed with this kind

663
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:52,119
of pointless ship. I mean, we're we're burning captured sunlight

664
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,920
from two hundred and fifty million years ago to do

665
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:59,760
this shit, and you can't you know, it's it's just

666
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,559
fun can blows. I put up a post of the

667
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:09,559
guy mowing, mowing. We'll get back to that. That lafful

668
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:11,880
and native Edwards plateto vegetation it meant. But I put

669
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,599
up a post of this guy mowing. I think it

670
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,880
was in Colorado. Somebody said it to me. It was

671
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,760
a listener's submission, driving a riding mower over a dirt lot,

672
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,280
just clicking, kicking up clouds of dust like there goes

673
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,719
your top soil. Just it looks like fucking iwa in

674
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,960
September when all the farmers are tilling the soil and

675
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,800
there's just clouds of dirt and dust going everywhere. Really amazing.

676
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:39,800
Every every September October in the Midwest, the dust ball

677
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,679
gets recreated. There goes all your top soil cloud. I mean,

678
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,920
it's so thick, it looks like wildfire. Looks like someone's

679
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,880
doing a control burn. I'm walking up hill now, it's

680
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,119
really nice. There's he's at a limestone crevasses still and

681
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:56,239
I'm surprised they were even able to build houses here.

682
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,119
It's very uneven terrain must have been in credible habit

683
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:04,199
that here, I mean it still is in little places

684
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,519
like where you know, someone hasn't decided to you know,

685
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:11,920
mode on the native vegetation and they're lot that's built

686
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,480
for two houses but only has one, you know, and

687
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:18,440
and make money by putting in a second home and

688
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:21,840
selling it right because some people are doing it. A

689
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,840
lot of these people are rich enough they can they

690
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,440
can keep they can keep the native vegetation in and

691
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,480
so you can get a hint of what was here before.

692
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,480
And it's fucking awesome. Dermatophylum Yucca upacola. You know this

693
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,800
you could see this vegetation that represents so well the

694
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,719
transition from the music, higher rainfall east of North America

695
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:49,559
to the drier, more arid, more rocky west of North

696
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:53,719
America right here in the hundredth meridian. Anyway, I put

697
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,199
this post up, but it's there's some fact I know

698
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,920
offence that I love. Fetti's some fact I driving around

699
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,280
Don and he's just working there. He didn't make the call.

700
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,840
He's just got a job. He's just working. It's not

701
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,800
his fault. He's just doing ship work. You think when

702
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,639
I was working for the fucking railroad and some guy

703
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,440
just waved to me, that was nice. Oh shit, I've

704
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,400
been spotted. Oh we're stopping in the street. Okay, what

705
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,280
do you want to say? What do I want to

706
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,280
say something?

707
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: I want to say, you're the greatest.

708
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: No, no, what everybody should be like? You got some

709
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,280
nice native parcels of habitat here.

710
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is all habitat. They build them one

711
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:32,079
at a time. Thank god. It's not like rough.

712
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,079
Speaker 1: And some people are keeping like the Gary righty eye

713
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,119
and the dermatified.

714
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,519
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I knew all the name, but you.

715
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: Know, the plants though, that's enough. You don't even know

716
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:40,800
the names.

717
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: I just let him go. I let him grow. Unfortunately

718
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,719
most of mine standina.

719
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:49,559
Speaker 1: You know, everyone need help removing it? Yeah, help you.

720
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:51,400
I'm here at my buddy Hobby's house all the time.

721
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,760
So yeah, okay, yeah, good to meet you, Johnny. Give

722
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:59,639
me the real stuff, man, Cara, Yeah, Cam, I have

723
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:04,000
a go nice guy, really nice guy. What the fuck

724
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:07,719
was I talking about? Oh yeah, the pointless mowing. Yeah,

725
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,079
that's fucking awesome. That shit would never happen where I live. Well, actually,

726
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:13,840
it does happen. It does happen. I'm just trying to

727
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,599
be cynical. You know, there's a it wouldn't happen as frequently.

728
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,400
But that's nice. There really is. There is, really is

729
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,880
some lovely remnant veggier. Holy shit. I gotta go help

730
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,719
that guy remove Nandina when I get back from the Philippines. Now, Oh,

731
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:35,719
there's a Celtis anyway. Uh, shout out to Johnny who

732
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,239
lives on bermuda Av? Was it bermuda Av? I don't

733
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,880
know what fucking Oh wow, Berberus is in fruit anyway?

734
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,400
What was I talking? Oh? Yeah, do you think when

735
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,079
I worked for the railroad, I mean, I knew I

736
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:50,320
was working for a shitty company, right, I just loved

737
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,719
the work. I didn't I didn't feel a connection to

738
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,400
making sure that a frozen box car full of chickens

739
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,679
got the fucking whatever company it was going to. You know,

740
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,480
I didn't feel I didn't feel like I took pride

741
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,559
in that. I didn't feel like I took pride and

742
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:12,159
making sure that a gondola car full of scrap metal, Oh,

743
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,280
nice piece o lithas fungus, dead man's foot fungus. Michael

744
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,159
Reisel's poking up from the side of the road certainly

745
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:22,079
tied into one of the oaks of the Lantana, Right.

746
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:26,159
But I didn't I didn't feel, you know, proud of

747
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:28,920
the fact that I was helping a gondola car full

748
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,800
of scrap metal make its way to a grind pile

749
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,920
at Schnitzer Steel in Oakland, California, can get ground up

750
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,000
and ship to China. Right. I just liked working working

751
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:45,639
out there, being outdoors, shooting the shit with the rough

752
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:47,440
necks and meatheads I was working with. I liked a

753
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,079
lot of them and uh, and it was fun. But

754
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,800
I didn't feel any pride. If someone would have attacked,

755
00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:01,000
you know, verbally attacked the idea of shipping fucking back

756
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,320
in you know, crude shale crewde back and crude oil

757
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:08,920
to the port of Oakland. I wouldn't have felt personally attacked.

758
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,280
So do you think the guy because a lot of

759
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,360
people made these stupid, fucking comments when I was attacking

760
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,239
the idea of the guy, the idea of you know,

761
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,000
mowing a mowing a dirt lot, not a dirt lot,

762
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:28,960
but a patch of effectively dead grass in the arid west,

763
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,639
you know, the Colorado. Where was it somewhere around Boulders

764
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:36,480
and Denver, I don't know, suburbs of Denver. Attacking the

765
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:39,480
idea of driving a riding mower around a patch of

766
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:43,400
dead grass in a park and just kicking off clouds

767
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,679
of dust and just I mean very evidently not doing anything,

768
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,119
just long care, busy work. You know, we all know

769
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,599
this was a long care company that got hired. It's

770
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,519
very evident. It's not his property, right, it's a fucking

771
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:58,599
it's a park, but it's just it's just a big

772
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:02,679
patch of dead grass with a lot of space, and

773
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,639
that the fucking the dust clouds getting kicked up, you know,

774
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,360
go up to like ten feet. It's the same thing

775
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,519
I see around where I live all the time, except

776
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:13,239
they're mowing it. And then a couple of people commented, Oh,

777
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,199
he's not mowing, he's he's de thatching, de thatching. Look up,

778
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,719
de thatching. What is de thatching? De thatching is pointless,

779
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,159
busy work invented by the long care industry, so they

780
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:27,719
have a needless service to sell people, especially during the

781
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,519
down season. It's like ripping up the dead shit so

782
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:36,440
that I guess, so that the stuff beneath it can

783
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,440
come up right, something that's like completely unnecessary in any

784
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:45,079
kind of native ecosystem. Removing the thatch. He's de thatching,

785
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:49,039
what a technical term, de thatching. He's de thatching it.

786
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,800
But the point is the guy you know who's doing it,

787
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,159
he's probably a lovely gentleman, right, he's probably a great guy,

788
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,920
just some working class schlep like myself, like I was

789
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,360
for fifteen years, and he's got probably no personal attachment.

790
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,960
He probably knows what he's doing is fucking ridiculous, as

791
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,039
I often did when I was working for the railroad.

792
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,079
But he's still doing He's not doing it out of

793
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:13,000
a sense of duty and pride, he's doing it because

794
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,559
it's his fucking job and he needs a paycheck. Everybody

795
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:18,400
understands that. But of course when I put that up,

796
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:23,800
and it's always the token rich kid, generally Caucasian, who's

797
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,639
now got progressive politics that they want to shove it

798
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:28,519
you to, you know, to a confident effect. They grew

799
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:32,079
up basically spoiled and wealthy. You never had to worry

800
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:36,079
about anything. Uh, And that's good. I mean, it's better them,

801
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:38,280
better than being that than like a young Republican or

802
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,400
some shit, right right, that's good. But the compensation factor

803
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,440
gets a little too strong and they end up being

804
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,519
obnoxious as fuck, just like the vegan who's got to,

805
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:50,000
you know, repeatedly tell you about how they're vegan and

806
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,199
how you're a piece of shit for eating meat. I

807
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,360
don't really eat meat. I eat a little bit of

808
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,639
chicken and some fish, you know, but it's mainly a

809
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,039
cholesterol thing for me because all you know, all the

810
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:01,719
wops that in my family and they all get the

811
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,800
ass cancer to colon issues. You know, you want to

812
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,800
keep that red meat unless you're running marathions. You don't

813
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,320
really need to be eating that much red meat. It's

814
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,400
fucking disgusting anyway. So the token Caucasian progressives, and they've

815
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,840
always got you know, maybe the Palestine flag and their

816
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,280
bio and their pronouns, all this stupid shit, no offense,

817
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,440
not that the Palestine flag stupid right, not at all,

818
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:23,320
not just saying you know, it's just these are just

819
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,760
like social signals. They're just signaling. It's a self curated identity,

820
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,480
and these are social signals that you can wave to

821
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:33,480
other people the right does it to everybody? Does it?

822
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:36,199
That's that's humans, That's what we are. We socially signal

823
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,360
to each other, right to show what fucking group we're anyway.

824
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,599
But they've always got to put it well, you know,

825
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:45,840
it was a couple people who just immediately allow you

826
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,719
just you're attacking this guy. They just made this, They

827
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,000
made this own straw They made their own straw man

828
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:54,239
argument that you know, something I wasn't saying. And then

829
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,159
they had a conversation with themselves about it, and then

830
00:44:57,199 --> 00:44:59,400
I made fun of them, and then you put them on

831
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,239
restrict and then you watch him just keep having a

832
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,000
conversation with themselves, getting angry. It's pretty funny. But either way,

833
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:09,800
you know, it was that that shure of just the

834
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,840
fucking riding mower. He got the clouds of dust. You've

835
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,599
got the turf grass that's brown and very obviously dead. No,

836
00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:19,320
it doesn't come back, It doesn't just green up, right.

837
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,599
The roots might still be alive, but they'll send up,

838
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,599
they'll send up, you know, new shoots in the winter.

839
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:29,400
So the shit that's dead doesn't doesn't come back right.

840
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:33,760
And he wasn't removing that stuff. He's dethetching. So it

841
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,119
goes and it just it's just fucking and he's you know,

842
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:41,519
he's spitting half the fucking top soil away too. There

843
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:43,440
goes all the dust and all the shit they pour

844
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,880
on it, the fucking herbicides, everything you need to keep

845
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,280
along looking healthy and in a climate it doesn't want

846
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,480
to be in like the front range of Colorado where

847
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,480
it's super dry. All that shit's going on, all the

848
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:58,480
cars and everything was fucking hilarious, just a beautiful It's

849
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:03,719
just a perfect metaphor for just the fucking futility and

850
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,559
mindlessness of our race to nowhere. There's a better way

851
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,760
to do things, but we've been doing it this way

852
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,960
for so long. We're not even ready to start thinking

853
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,559
about that yet. But all in all, we love the

854
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,880
mindless busy work, don't we it. It just makes you

855
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,280
feel like something's getting done. Nothing's really getting done, but

856
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,360
it makes you feel like it. It's the illusion of

857
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,280
things getting done. It's the illusion of duty and obligation,

858
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,360
and that feels good. That makes us feel good. It

859
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,599
feels the void temporarily. It's very important, especially for you know,

860
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:37,679
for these for these suburban men to be out there

861
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,400
mowing the law in themselves. But you know, the neighborhood

862
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,519
I'm in, nobody obviously does that. They hire landscapers to

863
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:46,719
do it, but uh keeps a lot of them employed.

864
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,760
Won How many people here have actually voted for Trump

865
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,280
and now are out of a landscaping crew, you know

866
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,920
due to the ice rays? Does that happen? Who are

867
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,559
they gonna find? Who are the beauty full? Diasporos text aena?

868
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:04,719
How do you tell if you got a male or

869
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,519
a female diaspors taxt aying? If they haven't flower, you can't.

870
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:11,280
You have to wait for the flowers, So you better

871
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,840
just plant the bunch of them. That's the best way

872
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,519
to just ensure that you're gonna get both. So you

873
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:17,480
can get some of that edible fruit. Does it really

874
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:20,880
make you shit? Though? Has anyone? We should have a

875
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,840
diasporos text aena eating and shitting contest. You eat as

876
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,239
many texas per simmons as you can, and then and

877
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,719
then you try to hold it in and you see

878
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,559
if it does if it is indeed a laxative, because

879
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:39,679
many fruits are laxatives, that's you know, you make sure

880
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,519
that the dispersal agent in this case of human or

881
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,039
or maybe at the quachet apossum or something. You know,

882
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,000
you make sure that they evacuate their bowels before their

883
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:52,719
stomach acids start digesting the seed coat and they end

884
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,480
up dispersing the seeds for you. Works great, It works

885
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,320
for yellow dragon fruit perfectly. Did you ever see that? Really?

886
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,719
Dating myself here, but do you ever see an episode

887
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,559
of Jackass where they try to take a shit running?

888
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,719
Wasn't that impressive? Just the most ridiculous shit? Those were

889
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,840
healthy pastimes by the way, too, you know those you know,

890
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,719
young men need something to do, right, vandalizing crape myrtles,

891
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,480
seeing if it's possible to take a shit while running?

892
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,559
Better that than you know, sports cars in cell videos.

893
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,559
You know, Political extremism of any kind you know that

894
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:34,480
kind of thing. Better that then you know, watching Andrew

895
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,159
tape videos or something. Right, see if you could take

896
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,519
a shit while running. Those are healthy pastimes for a

897
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:46,800
young man anyway. All right, So moving on from the

898
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,239
the mowing the dirt lot and kicking up clouds of

899
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,119
dust issue. I don't know if I talked about this

900
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:54,920
in the last podcast. I don't think I did. But

901
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:59,480
I found another or I visited another someone else found

902
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,840
that I don't know found it. They found it in

903
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,760
twenty twenty two, or maybe it was twenty twenty four,

904
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,039
but they put it on I Naturalist an observation of

905
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:11,079
Quadprella in Cana the Texas Caper, the Borderlands Caper more appropriately,

906
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,199
right near the border wall. And so my friend Lily

907
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,480
was visiting. We went out there to go check it out.

908
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:22,239
She was visiting from Florida. And God, we're going to

909
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:27,599
talk about a dystopic development scene, right, and just super

910
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,199
dirty politics too. All the developers are basically on the

911
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,000
boards of these Holy shit, here's a chip in Hobby's backyard.

912
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:41,320
What the fuck? Here's a shirt the piece of shirt

913
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,679
that has obviously been worked at some point in the

914
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,519
last few hundred years by someone attempting to make a

915
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:49,280
cutting blade out of it. That's pretty cool. Oh, I

916
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,320
would have loved to be here five hundred years ago

917
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,760
just to see it. You ever think about that? Doesn't

918
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,440
it just break in half? What's been like? Okay, let's

919
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,440
let's not get the rest there. Okay, Remember there's a

920
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,159
native prophecy that all this ship's gonna collapse, and uh,

921
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,199
you know, this stupid, arrogant civilization is gonna be forced

922
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:15,519
to change its ways if it survives, right, which that's uh,

923
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,599
there's hope on the horizon. Keep that, keep that in,

924
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,280
keep it in your prayers. But I've visited this. I

925
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,719
heard there was a population of this plant there, uh,

926
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,119
in these remnant Sable forests. Sable Mexican I basically, you know,

927
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:34,920
the only palm native to the Rio Grande Valley of

928
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,000
South Texas. Right there on the border. You know, you

929
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:42,360
can hear border patrol has this atensi atension on the loudspeaker,

930
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,760
basically saying in Spanish, don't come here, you know we'll

931
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,800
we'll turn you away. This area is heavily patrolled, et cetera.

932
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:54,960
Atension and uh yeah, I mean it's that's going off

933
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,639
in the background, and you walk down. You walk past

934
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:59,519
the border wall. There's a little break in the border

935
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:01,280
wall and there is always border patrol there. So I

936
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,719
go and talk to him. I tell them what we're doing.

937
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,880
They don't really care because it technically it's wildlife refuse

938
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,440
track land. You walk past the giant dystopian arrays of

939
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,559
concertina wire that they've got out there, and you walk

940
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:14,639
down this little hill and there's a massive quadrilla in

941
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,440
cana which is in Caparecei, the Caper family, which is

942
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,559
in the Brassica Order of brassic Keyle's the order of Mustards,

943
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:28,800
and a lot of cool members Order of Coberlinius Spinosa,

944
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,960
all fourn whatever the common name is. You know, it's

945
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,800
just got the photosynthetic stems, no leaves, coberliniar. We all

946
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,719
love cober Linea, don't you. If you don't, you're an asshole.

947
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,239
And so you walk past it, the concertina wire. You

948
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,320
walk up to this tree and it's just you know,

949
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,599
I you tell it was at one point maybe fourteen

950
00:51:47,639 --> 00:51:49,920
feet tall, and there's been some dieback, but it's re

951
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,239
sprouting from the base and the reesproutse look healthy and

952
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,239
it's flowering it's got the four white petaled flower. I've

953
00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:02,960
seen quadrilla in in uh, Dominican Republic and then in

954
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:06,199
Costa Rica and the dry force there. You know that

955
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,360
that's speaking of which that's the beauty of Ininat is

956
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,440
that I didn't know. I didn't know what. I wasn't

957
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,880
familiar with the genus quadrilla, right, because it was used

958
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,159
to be in the genus caper or caparis. I wasn't

959
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:22,239
familiar with the genus quadrilla. Uh, you know, up until

960
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:28,199
a few a few months ago. And because it was

961
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,079
you know, someone told me about it and I was like, oh,

962
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:32,239
it's a plant I haven't seen in the Rio Grand Valley.

963
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,840
That's the you know, it's like a significantly sized shrub.

964
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,440
So I looked it up right into it. And then

965
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,519
I went to my Ininat typed in quadrilla, and I'd

966
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:42,480
seen two other quadrilla species, one in Costa Rica, one

967
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,039
of the Dominican Republic. And then you know, you can

968
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:47,360
go to the taxon charts charts, the taxonomy charts on

969
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,119
Ininat and see how many other species are in there,

970
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:52,840
and uh, and so now I had a context for it.

971
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:55,639
Oh it's this lineage that we get in South Texas too,

972
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:58,719
and that I've seen already in the dry forests of

973
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:02,199
Costa Rica and northwest part of Costa Rica, and in

974
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,679
the Dominican Republic and the southwest you know, corner of

975
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:10,159
the Dominican Republic where it's drier. Oh cool, Holy shit.

976
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,679
I had no idea. But when I was when I

977
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,679
was photographing these things, both in Costa Rica and Dominican Republic,

978
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,320
I didn't know what they were. I was just documenting

979
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,480
the plant life there, right, And then I put it

980
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:22,159
on iin ad identified it later or somebody else did whatever,

981
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:24,440
and then didn't think much of it. It's just a name.

982
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,920
I have no context for the genus quadrilla until I,

983
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,199
you know, have a reason to look at the one

984
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,440
that grows near me. And then of course I asked

985
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,320
what family it's in. I'm not familiar with the family

986
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,159
CAPARECEI the caper. What are capers? Oh there's some spice

987
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,119
or some shit. I'm not really I'm not really familiar

988
00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:42,360
with those either. So then I look into what order

989
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,039
is it in? It's in the mustards. Okay, well, what

990
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:47,159
I know about the muzzards? You know four petaled flowers

991
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:53,000
generally speaking, just like cobralinea and mustards, and uh, you

992
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,440
know the glucoscinilate phito chemistry which often has a peculiar

993
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,840
smell to it. Right with sabby, he's an example of

994
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,039
glucosinolate the chemistry or kale you know ko farts that

995
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:09,480
sulfury smell. And so then I start learning more about it,

996
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,599
and then I realized how this this genus has of

997
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,840
multiple different species that are adapted to tropical dry areas.

998
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,199
How cool. Anyway, so we rolled up to this spot

999
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,719
at the border wall there were We ended up finding

1000
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,119
three or four plants. Most were only two or three

1001
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:26,239
feet tall. It looks like they probably died back in

1002
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:31,079
the freeze of twenty one. It might have been something

1003
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:32,800
else too, I don't know. They might there might have

1004
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,679
been another reason they died back. But either way, Uh,

1005
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:38,480
you know, they were right at the eco tone of

1006
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:42,320
like the lowland sable forest where it's very dark, dense

1007
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,199
sable palm forest, really cool, the water bottles all over

1008
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:49,639
the place from migrants crossing in the past. Uh. And

1009
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,320
then you go further as you start. If you go,

1010
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,280
if you were a few yards north, you get into

1011
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:59,920
you know, more of the upland stuff, right, like corset

1012
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:05,639
Da axilaris, which is in Fabasi great native native garden

1013
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:10,559
native plant garden plant already Anaqua another great native tree

1014
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,440
smells great when it blooms. It's the Borge family brands

1015
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,559
and ac tons of guayacon there of course, and so

1016
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:20,480
it's slowly, you know, but you definitely only get the

1017
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,039
sables where it's more music, where it's wetter. And surely

1018
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:27,159
there were massive Monosuma cypress there at one point too,

1019
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:30,280
but they all got leveled or most of them, ninety

1020
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,400
nine percent got leveled as the area got developed, because

1021
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,159
that's you know, they're members of the redwood family. They're

1022
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:39,920
related to redwoods, and it's good wood, it's good lumber.

1023
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,800
So but either way, it was a really cool, uh

1024
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:52,119
really cool forest. Had Plumbagos Alantica there too. There was

1025
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:54,960
a whole bunch of cool shit follow feminist Spinosa's Texas

1026
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:58,559
snake eyes. The fruits are the are the snake eyes.

1027
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:00,440
That's why it's they've got like these like jail like

1028
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:07,920
bird dispersed seeds. I guess it's technically an aerrol but yeah,

1029
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,079
it was a really fucking wonderful thing to see this

1030
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:13,960
little remnant patch of vegetation. And everything around there is

1031
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,920
agriculture for the most part, agriculture and then border wall

1032
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,440
and then of course the concertina wire, except for this

1033
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:22,719
one little spot. And I talked to my friend Josh

1034
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,159
and San Antonio, who you know, is a big ininet

1035
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,079
guy does tons of identifications. I don't bother with identifications

1036
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:34,239
ever really, and he he was like, yeah, visited the site.

1037
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,880
You know, it is it's real. It is a species,

1038
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,239
you know, because he had an interest in it too.

1039
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,880
This is such a rare plant. So I got cuttings.

1040
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,719
I'm trying to grow them on this aeroponic bubbler, you know,

1041
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,400
the one that the weed growers use, and hopefully that

1042
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,199
will work. I think I have to get some rooting

1043
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:53,840
solution though, because you can't for those aeroponic bubblers. You know,

1044
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,800
it's just like a little it's like a bath with

1045
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,000
water that circulates. You put like a gallon or two

1046
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,559
gallons of water in there, and then there's a trade

1047
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:03,840
that goes on top which keeps the humidity inside, prevents

1048
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,199
it from evaporating, and also holds the cuttings. You know,

1049
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,280
we grow as use these things. And for some plants

1050
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,000
you don't even need rooting hormone. But for all the

1051
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,599
stuff I'm growing, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna need rooting hormone.

1052
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:17,519
So I think I gotta get the hormex stuff. It's

1053
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:20,599
a solution. It's not like the stuff you dip the

1054
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:24,440
gel or the the uh powder because it'll just get

1055
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:28,000
washed off. You got to actually get put a solution

1056
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:32,079
in the tray in the aeroponic cloner. So I'm trying

1057
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:36,000
to root Mandavilla lenugenosa, all these cool natives that because

1058
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,840
I don't have time to wait for seed, I just

1059
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,360
want to get these things out there. I'm gonna do

1060
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,639
seed too, but I'm trying to get clones out as well.

1061
00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:45,400
Mandavilla leugenosia needs to be grown, Helieta par of a

1062
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,400
Folia needs to be grown Barretta they call it. You

1063
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,039
also get barretals, you know, which is like a biretta

1064
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:55,639
forest fucking dope. Plant leaves smell very pleasant. You know

1065
00:57:55,679 --> 00:57:58,199
what I just saw? I just saw a xanthoxalm in

1066
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:02,119
this little remnant patch of juniper.

1067
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: Right.

1068
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,039
Speaker 1: I guess I was trespassing. I don't know. It was

1069
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:06,519
like a little remnant to patch in this neighborhood, in

1070
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:09,800
Hobby's neighborhood, and there was xenhox limb in there, which

1071
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,440
is rutasi. It's got thorns on it. It looks like

1072
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,760
it's some sort of fucked up rows. And then you

1073
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,800
and glabrous leaves, very smooth shiny leaves, and then you

1074
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,480
break up a leaf and it smells very pungent and

1075
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:24,679
strong like xanthoxlim does. Because most of this almost everything

1076
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:27,440
in the citrus family has punching smelling leaves. Everything I've

1077
00:58:28,239 --> 00:58:32,039
had contact with. It's like a synapomorphy for the rutasi,

1078
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:35,440
the pellucid oil glands. You know, you got to look

1079
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,239
at Mike Simpson's book It Plants Systematics. If you haven't yet,

1080
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,360
I get it even if it flies over your head.

1081
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:45,920
It's a nice textbook, you know. Put it on your shelf,

1082
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,079
crack it open for ten minutes while you're drinking your coffee.

1083
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:51,880
Every morning you see words you don't know, look them

1084
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,559
up all right where you can really just you could

1085
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:57,079
open that book anywhere. You don't have to read it

1086
00:58:57,079 --> 00:58:59,760
start to finish. You could open that book anywhere and

1087
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,960
and just start reading. Because it's everything's listed by order,

1088
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:06,840
like every different chapter is a different order of angiosperms,

1089
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:09,800
well all plants. These got the ferns in there too.

1090
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:16,679
Very nice diagrams, very nice pictures, lists of the snapomorphies

1091
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,920
for every order and family. It's a great book. Anyway,

1092
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,960
wonder what zendoxlam That was probably Clava hercules. I have

1093
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,679
to put it up on in later. But uh, anyway,

1094
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:33,559
so you know, just seeing this, this this forest right

1095
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:36,800
on the Rio Grande, right on right on the river

1096
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,400
right there, it's all fish and wildlife. But you know

1097
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:43,559
that doesn't protect nothing's protected in Texas. Yeah, It's happened

1098
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:46,119
so many times where I discover something or I see

1099
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:47,920
it for the first time, not discover what, you know,

1100
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,360
what I fucking mean, right, You see it for the

1101
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,360
first time, and then you come back six months later

1102
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,760
and it's gone. It's just cleared. We need to get

1103
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,760
rid of those plants. They were soon Assi. Let me

1104
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,719
put the phone down, okay. Anyway, now we're tailgating on

1105
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,599
the back of the truck. I'm making some tea right

1106
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:09,039
here with this little stove. It's like a twenty dollars attachment,

1107
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:11,599
maybe it was fifteen. That just goes right on those

1108
01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:16,840
little butte taint things. There you go. It's gonna make

1109
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,119
some green thief. But I think I may have finally

1110
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:23,039
done it. I may have finally gotten banned from Missouri

1111
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:26,320
Botanical Garden. I don't think. I don't think the stiffs

1112
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,119
at HR really appreciated my Orchid Show video in which

1113
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:33,840
I was making fun of the show gardens, the show

1114
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,320
gardens that they put on for the rich donors. M yes,

1115
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,440
and the Linnaean Greenhouse where we can show, we can

1116
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:45,440
highlight the We've got a ten thousand dollars replica of

1117
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:50,000
the actual schooner that was sailed across the ocean on

1118
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,960
some of the early botanical travels from seventeenth century Europe.

1119
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,480
It's a lovely and then we've got a point steadier

1120
01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:00,719
garden in there as well. And the donors, we had

1121
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,599
a banquet for them, a Cotillian dinner, if you will,

1122
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,559
and many of the wonderful donors, the wealthy donors came

1123
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:11,360
by and they absolutely loved it. They thought it was fantastic,

1124
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,760
and they said, you know what, I'm going to donate

1125
01:01:14,639 --> 01:01:20,039
an extra three hundred thousand dollars to fund the Weeping Mums.

1126
01:01:20,119 --> 01:01:24,360
Garden is the weeping mums. You're familiar with the weeping mums, right.

1127
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,679
They we spend six months training the mums so that

1128
01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:31,719
they actually have the weeping formation and they can drape

1129
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:34,079
over the right. Anyway, I think I finally got banned.

1130
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,639
Word on the grape viners that I finally got banned.

1131
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:39,199
I know they don't want to take any more of

1132
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:44,559
my specimen, any more of the specimens at the at

1133
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:48,000
the herbarium. Maybe this is all just word of mouth,

1134
01:01:48,239 --> 01:01:50,400
you know. I think the young people appreciate the young

1135
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,800
people enjoy crime Pace, but I think some of the

1136
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,800
older people may not have the same level of appreciation.

1137
01:01:58,639 --> 01:02:03,280
There's very I just you know, we don't really we

1138
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,440
don't need that. You know, we don't need the association.

1139
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,280
I think the association with crime pace about and he doesn't.

1140
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,719
Maybe what's bumming out some of the stiffs, you know what.

1141
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,599
I feel bad for these people. You know, most of

1142
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:18,679
them have probably never been to therapy. Most of them

1143
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:23,000
have probably never dropped acid. Most of them have probably

1144
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:27,280
never had a gay old time lighting their farts on

1145
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:32,400
fire and lapping their asses off around a campfire. I've

1146
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,000
mentioned that twice in this podcast. I think I'm overdue.

1147
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:37,000
It's been years since I've done that. You never tried

1148
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,679
to light your ass on fire? It's very funny. I

1149
01:02:38,719 --> 01:02:39,800
mean the first time I ever did it, I was

1150
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,760
in military school. My friend Dan Rapp lit his ass

1151
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,000
on fire and then got really nervous that he had

1152
01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:51,239
burned his sphincter muscle, and he started flipping out about it,

1153
01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:53,679
getting on neurotic. And shit, you know, leave it to

1154
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:58,280
a Chicago Italian you get fucking neurotic about something inconsequential

1155
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,079
and ridiculous. Anyway, Dan rap wasn't Italian? Was he? What

1156
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:03,119
the fuck was he? I don't know.

1157
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: His dad was.

1158
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: Fucking hilarious, though, God, his dad was like this this

1159
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:13,679
thick accent, you know, trucker, Dan cut you here? You

1160
01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:20,320
look like a fag. Little did he know? Anyway? I mean,

1161
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:24,599
and yeah, sure that's toxic. I understand that. Okay, I'm

1162
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:27,719
just you know, it was a thing. It's funny. That

1163
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,000
alone is funny, right, some old guy that thinks a

1164
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:35,559
haircut can make someone homosexual, that's not That's not what

1165
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:43,480
makes you homosexual. You know, mutual masturbation in it? Nevermind? Okay, uh, anyway,

1166
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,760
but I think it may have finally gotten banned from

1167
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,039
Missouri Botanica Garden. I think it happened. I knew it

1168
01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:53,719
was coming right. They do have a wonderful center for research.

1169
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,679
They've also they really have that hoity toity, all that

1170
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,400
shit I make fun of with the cotillion dinners. Does

1171
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,280
the best impression of a cotillion dinner? We're having a

1172
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,239
kotillion banquet? Yes, they they. When they redid the building

1173
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:11,039
the US it was a former railroad depot. When they

1174
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:15,000
redid the building, they were uh, they did embrace the

1175
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,599
the rough urban history of the previous thirty years, and

1176
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:22,079
they left some of the graffitos. They left some of

1177
01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:28,039
the graffitos behind, some of the vintage salvaged wood that

1178
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:31,480
they later put up on the interior of the the

1179
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:33,960
entrance to the cafe, for instance. It was I do.

1180
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:37,440
I did appreciate that. I thought that was very clever. Anyway,

1181
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,480
you know, you know what I'm talking about. But I

1182
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:43,960
think I don't know. We'll see how quick can I

1183
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,880
get banned if I go back, I won't through any videos.

1184
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,320
Even because they've got some nice stuff from Miseruribo Tanna Garden.

1185
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:51,559
They've also got a lot of the hideous show garden

1186
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:53,599
shit that I make fun of. And I think some

1187
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:56,480
of the uh, some of the well deduce may have

1188
01:04:56,519 --> 01:04:59,840
been offended by that. I think, so, I think it happened,

1189
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,920
and and I think the Orchid Show video pointing out

1190
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,400
how there's no scientific information about pollination syndromes or ey

1191
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,000
the cool things orchids do. So it's not really an

1192
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:13,639
exhibit celebrating the orchid ac the largest plant family in

1193
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:16,639
North America. It's more just you know, like jerk off

1194
01:05:16,719 --> 01:05:20,159
optics for a jerk off optics for the wealthy, without

1195
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:24,559
providing any context. He's a very you know, anthropocentric based Hey,

1196
01:05:24,599 --> 01:05:28,760
the garden show shit, you know. And speaking of garden shows,

1197
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,039
I went to the South Texas Garden Show over thereon

1198
01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:34,280
McCowan and I thought it was gonna be a lot

1199
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,079
of horticultural atrocity stuff, but it wasn't. They actually had

1200
01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:39,960
like quite a few native They had like two native

1201
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:45,599
plant tables. My buddy Eric was at one of them.

1202
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:48,360
Eric is a wonderful man. He's very kind, but he's

1203
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,519
scary looking in a way. He looks he's very he's

1204
01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:53,440
built like a fridge. He looks like a Vato that

1205
01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:55,800
just got out of prison. He doesn't he doesn't have

1206
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,440
any tattoos. Okay, but but he's just you know, if

1207
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:04,119
you were gonna and holds someone right. And he's doing

1208
01:06:04,159 --> 01:06:07,440
great work for the for natives down here. I like

1209
01:06:07,639 --> 01:06:10,079
I like him a lot. But he was funny. He

1210
01:06:10,239 --> 01:06:14,079
was with these two older women who looked a little

1211
01:06:14,119 --> 01:06:16,880
Martha Stewart homemakers. No offense, I'm not talking shit at all,

1212
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,719
and not at all, but it was just funny because

1213
01:06:18,719 --> 01:06:20,199
he got excited he saw me, He's like, oh, let's

1214
01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:22,119
take a selfie. And then he included these two ladies

1215
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,880
and they looked at me like with the highest level

1216
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:32,280
of revulsion that they could must They were probably being

1217
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,119
nice and trying to hide it, but they just looked

1218
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:37,159
over at me. Yeah, they didn't know who I was,

1219
01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:40,880
which was great, but it was still fucking hilarious. Shit,

1220
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,639
I'm boiling the tea, and that'sposed to boil the tea.

1221
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:44,559
It's gonna be higher caffe and I've already hit too much.

1222
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:50,159
God damn it. Fuck all right, put that down. But uh,

1223
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:52,719
but it was it was very funny. How the fuck

1224
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,760
it's like five hours later from when I first started

1225
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,559
recording this thing, and there's still leaf blowers. Like, there's

1226
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:03,360
just this fucking mind numbing background noise of leaf blowers

1227
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:07,400
in two stroke engines doing pointless shit. It's we haven't

1228
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,320
had any rain up here lately in the Austin area. Wee,

1229
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,719
I don't live up here, but you know what I mean,

1230
01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:16,519
It's just fucking kills me, man, Just the futility of

1231
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,159
you know, I do people ever wake up and find

1232
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:22,360
themselves trapped in this and just have mental breakdowns? I

1233
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,039
imagine it's got to happen a bunch. You're trapped in

1234
01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:27,760
this lifestyle of fucking leaf flowers, the lawns, the fucking

1235
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,920
mort kids. You could barely afford all this stupid shit.

1236
01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:33,400
Everything's collapsing around you. You know, we're in this pointless

1237
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,719
war with Iran now. The Trump's dumbass got us sent

1238
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,440
to everyone around yousing confident and just fronting, trying to

1239
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:44,079
save face. You know, uh, do people have that breakdown?

1240
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:47,000
Is there ever like the panic attack moment of realization

1241
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,719
where reality just becomes a bad asset trip and you

1242
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,159
wonder how you got trapped in it? Does that happen?

1243
01:07:52,199 --> 01:07:54,840
I think it does. I think there's actually quite a

1244
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,000
bit of literature written about that. Anyway, So I got

1245
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:01,000
banned from MOBOT. I haven't got the official word yet.

1246
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,599
I'm actually going to write someone I know they're in

1247
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:06,679
the upper echelons and see that. I would like the

1248
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,800
Uh if I am banned, I would like to know,

1249
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,639
and I would like to have it in writing too,

1250
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:14,480
so I can put it on my resume or put

1251
01:08:14,519 --> 01:08:17,039
the you know, the email on my wall or something.

1252
01:08:17,039 --> 01:08:18,680
I'm cute scared. I want to know what it's for.

1253
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,359
What is it for? I've given them good coverage? Is

1254
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:24,079
it for the orchid show thing? I was just it

1255
01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:26,359
was just the point that criticism, miss All. I wasn't

1256
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,119
I appreciate what they do, right. I think some of

1257
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:34,560
the rich, you know, schmucks up in the upper echelons

1258
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,760
maybe just got scared of the association with me.

1259
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,520
Speaker 3: We don't need that kind of association. It's not good

1260
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:44,119
for the brand the botanical garden at the Kotillion Dinners,

1261
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,159
the Kotillian Dinners. We don't want his name brought up

1262
01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:50,079
at the Kotillion dinners. It's very uncomfortable.

1263
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:51,159
Speaker 2: Uh.

1264
01:08:51,239 --> 01:08:53,359
Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, if you're in Austin, go to

1265
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,119
Green sleeves nursery. Go to my buddy Willie's nursery. The

1266
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:59,640
city of Fluggerville Fluggers. Did you know the Fluggers. They

1267
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,239
were a wonderful They were a wonderful family. The Fluggers were,

1268
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:06,520
and they did a lot of good stuff for They

1269
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,960
had a Bible camp over there in Flugerville. The Flugers,

1270
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:17,039
Mark and Donnie Fluger and Marcia Fluger, Sam and anyway,

1271
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:19,720
go to Flugerville and go to a green sleeves nursery

1272
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,720
and buy some stuff from Willy. Because the city's fucking

1273
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,159
with them over water restrictions. I guess they didn't realize

1274
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:27,680
there was a huge leak in one of their aqueducts,

1275
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:33,640
and so by the time their reservoir was drying out

1276
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,079
because it hadn't been filling up for the previous nine months,

1277
01:09:36,119 --> 01:09:38,159
it was already too late. So now they're cracking down

1278
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,319
anything that uses water and a nursery, a native plant nursery,

1279
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:45,560
even though all those plants are adapted and have adaptations

1280
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,560
like hairs on the leaves or heavy layers of wax,

1281
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,319
or drought deciduous nature. Even though it's native plants right

1282
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:55,960
which should receive an incentive. You know, I think the

1283
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,760
city managers just see the word nursery in a business

1284
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,079
name and fuck with them. And so they're on water restrictions.

1285
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:04,720
So Willy's been having to go pick up like thousands

1286
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,159
of gallons in these those carts with the metal frame

1287
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,439
you know that you load on a pickup trail. He's

1288
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,960
been having to transport water to his nursery that way,

1289
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:18,279
basically fill it very very time intensive and financially intensive too.

1290
01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:21,359
So if you could buy something from him, because I've

1291
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:23,159
given quite I've given him quite a few seeds of

1292
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:25,000
rare stuff. He's got a lot of good shit over there.

1293
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,960
He's selling a lot of sodal's. Go buy a sodall

1294
01:10:28,359 --> 01:10:30,000
the fuck you can go buy a sodall. That's a

1295
01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:33,239
plant that needs to get planted out. More, Go buy

1296
01:10:33,279 --> 01:10:36,079
a sodall from Willie and plant it in your yard

1297
01:10:36,119 --> 01:10:41,079
and full sun and uh and kill an andina. So

1298
01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:43,960
go go help him out. But anyway, yeah, no word

1299
01:10:44,039 --> 01:10:46,560
on it's a developing story. No word on the actual

1300
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,720
band from Missouri Botanical Garden. But uh, where am I

1301
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,239
going to deposit specimens at? Maybe a deposit in New

1302
01:10:52,319 --> 01:10:55,680
York Botanical Garden now because they don't they like me

1303
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,920
over there. I did a couple of videos there. They're

1304
01:10:58,039 --> 01:11:00,720
they like me, don't They don't they have the same

1305
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,920
I think any of these botanic institutions, and I've worked

1306
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,000
with a lot of them, and they've all been very hell.

1307
01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:07,680
This is the first time I've ever had a negative

1308
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:14,399
experience with one. Uh. But there's New York Botanical Garden

1309
01:11:14,399 --> 01:11:16,520
that they got the you know, they've all got the stiffs.

1310
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,960
They've all got the stiffs in the upper echelons that

1311
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,760
aren't gonna want to touch me with a ten foot pole.

1312
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,359
I understand that I don't want to touch them with

1313
01:11:22,359 --> 01:11:26,119
a ten foot pole either, at least the administrators the

1314
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:30,640
HR right. We live in different worlds. We have no

1315
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,680
business interacting except when you know you're a don't know

1316
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,319
what I do and you just see me at first

1317
01:11:37,319 --> 01:11:43,079
glance and think I'm a degenerate criminal or fucking or

1318
01:11:43,159 --> 01:11:45,279
some bum. Who's this guy? Oh?

1319
01:11:45,319 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: What is he?

1320
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: He isn't doing? He just curses and looks at plants.

1321
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,159
What does he do? That's not he's He doesn't even

1322
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:54,399
have a degree, he's never been to the Cotillion dinner.

1323
01:11:55,399 --> 01:11:58,800
I studied hard for this I just completed my thesis.

1324
01:11:59,159 --> 01:12:01,600
What is he doing? This is my world. He doesn't

1325
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,640
belong here, can sir, can you please have this man removed?

1326
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,279
But you know, but the people on the ground, people

1327
01:12:10,319 --> 01:12:14,119
actually doing research, always generally tend to be cool. Is

1328
01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:17,640
there ever a case where someone's hired to be in

1329
01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:22,000
an administrative position at a botanic garden or in you know,

1330
01:12:22,079 --> 01:12:25,720
the position of human resources who actually has botanical experience

1331
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,920
and has worked on the ground. I don't think so.

1332
01:12:28,079 --> 01:12:31,199
Like the HRT Missouri Botanical Garden, they don't know anything

1333
01:12:31,239 --> 01:12:34,000
about plants. They don't even know what genus and species are.

1334
01:12:34,079 --> 01:12:35,760
I don't think think they know the word. I don't

1335
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,319
even think they know. Uh, you know, ask gone of

1336
01:12:40,319 --> 01:12:43,079
these hr people to tell you what monophyletic means. Could

1337
01:12:43,119 --> 01:12:50,079
they do it? I don't think so. The business end, anyway,

1338
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,359
it's a shame. You know, why is there a run

1339
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,079
like this. There's got to be a few gardens out

1340
01:12:56,079 --> 01:12:57,920
there where it's actually you actually got people who know

1341
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,079
shit about plants in charge, you know, all up and

1342
01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:05,119
down the system, throughout, you know, throughout the the administrative

1343
01:13:05,159 --> 01:13:08,880
bowels of the system just doesn't happen to be in Missouri,

1344
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,680
but Tannia Garden and maybe I'm banned. Maybe I'm not banned,

1345
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,399
but I probably am. I don't know. We'll see, we'll

1346
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,960
see what the actual word is. Anyway, I'm at it

1347
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,920
to the Philippines in two hours. It should be very interesting.

1348
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,359
Lots of old world lineages of plants. Might see a

1349
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:29,479
rephlegia or two. I'm helping out with some university botany

1350
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,079
fora where they're going into some mountain range and doing

1351
01:13:32,119 --> 01:13:34,520
a bunch of collecting, collecting a bunch of barbarium specimens

1352
01:13:35,119 --> 01:13:38,000
and documenting the flora. I think there's already a checklist,

1353
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:43,840
a preliminary checklist for the area as well, so that

1354
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,520
should make it a little easier getting into it. But

1355
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,399
lots of old world plant lineages, man, you know, I

1356
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:51,880
haven't been on that side. I haven't been in the

1357
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,800
Eastern Hemisphere in a long time, so this will be

1358
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,079
exciting to get familiarized again with many of these lineages

1359
01:13:58,119 --> 01:14:03,000
I haven't seen since Australia, News Zealand or New Caledonia. Okay,

1360
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,079
I got the checklist that my buddy Johnny, who lives

1361
01:14:06,119 --> 01:14:14,239
in Manila sent me. Uh ooh Anna cardiac Buchanania, Buchanania arborescence.

1362
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,159
This is a tree mangiffra. It's a tree. Seema Carpus

1363
01:14:18,279 --> 01:14:22,399
cuneiformis Sema Carpus longe folius. It's a tree. I think

1364
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,239
Sema carpas one of those. I think those got the

1365
01:14:24,359 --> 01:14:27,720
Russia all in them. The allergenic oil Ana naci, which

1366
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,840
is a pop off family Mitrophora, reflects a tree h

1367
01:14:32,039 --> 01:14:34,600
ooh actinidiaci. There's a Sarawia there. I thought that was

1368
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,760
mostly North American. That's the Kiwi family. Sarawi is a

1369
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,720
tree you see in a lot of areas that a u.

1370
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,720
Central America, Mexico has a bunch. Costa Rica's got a few,

1371
01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:55,079
uh Dashitia Hoya taberne montana, uh Aquafolia ac ilex boer

1372
01:14:55,199 --> 01:15:02,000
Gerray buger Ray, whoever named after buger uh arac Or.

1373
01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:06,840
There's an Arisima aureliac Osmoxilon polkaraimum. And that's a tree.

1374
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:13,479
Eric Carreace. There's an agathist philippinensis. There's a Philippines agathist.

1375
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:20,520
No shit, that's nice. How about that? Uh? Let's see

1376
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:27,119
Eric Casey bunch of cool palms Arica. Eric casey, aristoloche Is,

1377
01:15:27,159 --> 01:15:34,439
Aristolochia philippine ensis, s Photolace, Dianella. Those are used in landscaping.

1378
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:44,520
A lot of Dianella's aspleniums Asteraci, Cyanthelium, Bloomia sinuata, mechania, Oh, balanoparaci.

1379
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,720
But ballinafa papuana, it's a nice one. Bogonias. They got

1380
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,560
a bunch of bogonias, of course, Bignoni ac rat or.

1381
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,399
You don't even need to hear me. You don't even

1382
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,479
need to hear me, just rant about these. They got

1383
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,479
Cascarhina just equasy the folio. That's probably we just naturalized

1384
01:16:02,119 --> 01:16:07,399
chrysl bles. Oh there's a Clethracclusias comlin ac anyway, Oh,

1385
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,439
Diptero carpesi. I'm excited about those, man, the Diptero carps.

1386
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,520
The Old World lineage of trees and the order mel

1387
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:21,319
Valley's very important keystone species and ecologically ecologically important in

1388
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,840
many areas of the Old World tropics. Anyway, I'll wrap

1389
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,239
it up there. I might be doing a book signing

1390
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:34,000
at Green Sleeves Nursery in mid April or late April.

1391
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,880
I think I'm going to Nuevo Leone to speak at

1392
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:43,000
a university down in Nuevo Lanmo, Mexico, in around the

1393
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:46,640
end of the month in April, and then I'm going

1394
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:52,039
I'm going to the fucking Carnivorous Plant Society conference in

1395
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:56,079
North Carolina. It's in some goofy sound in town in

1396
01:16:56,359 --> 01:17:00,960
like northwest North Carolina, and I'll be there in May,

1397
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:05,279
in mid May, and then uh, I'll be at Kulowe

1398
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,680
in July again in North Carolina. June. Hopefully I didn't

1399
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,359
sign up for anything in June, did I? Oh, we'll

1400
01:17:11,399 --> 01:17:15,720
be on tour. We're going to Tucson, La San Diego

1401
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:21,119
in the first week of June, and then in uh,

1402
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,000
what else am I doing? August? I'll be mid August.

1403
01:17:24,039 --> 01:17:26,399
I'm going to Denver. September, I'll beat the Arroid conference

1404
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,720
in Miami, and then a bunch of other shit. Then

1405
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,560
I probably won't commit to anything for a few months

1406
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,279
after that because I need my fucking life back. Anyway,

1407
01:17:33,079 --> 01:17:36,319
Hopefully you got a get someone of that. And please,

1408
01:17:36,359 --> 01:17:39,720
if you're in Austin, visit Green Sleeves Nursery in Flugerville.

1409
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,720
Help Willy. I'll buy some stuff from him. He's got

1410
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,119
a bunch of cool salve he's got a bunch of

1411
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:47,119
cool Salvia DARCYI and other good shit, and I gave

1412
01:17:47,159 --> 01:17:50,520
him some Nolina nelsonia I seed as well. So all right,

1413
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,760
but that's ITD have you have a good restaur after

1414
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,960
known all right, sir go. Fuck you. Said by