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<v Speaker 1>Your afternoon drive just got a little better. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>the hope at least. Now back to in the Zone

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<v Speaker 1>with Brandon Kravitz.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep the text rolling in five zero eight five seven

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<v Speaker 2>Just tap that microphone icon and let it fly. So

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<v Speaker 2>this Kevin Durant trade very interesting, kind of spiced up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was already a pretty good sports weekend, but this

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<v Speaker 2>made it even better. The deal is essentially this. The

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<v Speaker 2>Rockets get Kevin Durant, the Suns get Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the second round picks they want. Oh and

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<v Speaker 2>the tenth overall pick in this year's NBA draft, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a really good NBA draft class.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm excited to hear who Tyler Karen thinks the

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<v Speaker 2>Sons should now be taking with that pick. But they

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<v Speaker 2>have the tenth pick, they have Jalen Green, they have

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Brooks, and they have all the second round picks

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<v Speaker 2>you want. I imagine that this is how the negotiations go.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you get down to the second round picks portion

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<v Speaker 2>of the deal, you go, Okay, we've laid it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks the tenth overall pick, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you four second round picks unless you need more.

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<v Speaker 3>You can have as many as you need. I imagine

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of what it sounds like. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>other side goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we get six of them?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, yeah, why not?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's not let this hold us up. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>the thought comes down to this. It all comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to how good you think Jalen Green is slash can be.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are not a believer in Jalen Green, this

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<v Speaker 2>trade is awful and the Sons did not get enough.

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<v Speaker 2>The tenth pick is nice, but a slew of seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>We joke for reason when the Rockets own a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven Phoenix pick and a twenty twenty nine pick swap,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like the Suns probably could have done a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better. If you're gonna start over, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>want your own picks back? I would have said the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation starts there. We need our picks back, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll work to add other pieces to the equation. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good with it because I think Jalen Green is

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<v Speaker 2>a good player, and ultimately it's not enough when you

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<v Speaker 2>trade someone like Kevin Durant to just get a good

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<v Speaker 2>player back. But when you can get a good young

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<v Speaker 2>player and other pieces and the tenth overall pick is

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<v Speaker 2>that if you do it right. I don't think this

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<v Speaker 2>is that bad of a deal. And you have to

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<v Speaker 2>keep in mind this is so different than the Desmond

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<v Speaker 2>Baine trade because Bain is twenty six, he's under his

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<v Speaker 2>current contract for the next four years. The Rockets have

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<v Speaker 2>to immediately start negotiating with Kevin Durant, and if he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to, he could leave at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an unrestricted free agent at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>next season. So if he just wanted to make this

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<v Speaker 2>a one year trip, which by the way, it's Kevin Durant,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's no guarantee, that's not the way he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>handle this. This is his fifth team.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just the Tiger had stripes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's just call it what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this is that bad of a deal,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are getting slammed for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 2>According to everybody out there, Phoenix lost this deal. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they did. Okay, I don't think they killed it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they did fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They did the best that they could.

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<v Speaker 4>As a whole, they have probably mismanaged and mishandled this

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<v Speaker 4>whole Kevin Durant experiment in situation of bringing him in

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<v Speaker 4>and adding Bradley Beale and the truckload of money that

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<v Speaker 4>he brings with him. Phoenix acknowledged through this process that

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<v Speaker 4>they failed with this experiment. So all the reports that

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<v Speaker 4>we have heard was that Phoenix's asking price for Kevin

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<v Speaker 4>Durant was simply too So it gets to a point

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<v Speaker 4>if you are that Sun's front office saying you are

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<v Speaker 4>going to get swindled, you are going to get squeezed

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<v Speaker 4>in a way because everyone around the league knows that

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<v Speaker 4>you are looking to get off of this guy and

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<v Speaker 4>that comes with a big price tag and that there

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<v Speaker 4>is no guarantee, as you mentioned, that he will sign

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<v Speaker 4>again to play the remainder of his days in the

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<v Speaker 4>NBA in your jersey. So the asking price was already

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<v Speaker 4>too high, and if you're Phoenix in that point, you

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<v Speaker 4>just have to get the best that you can. So

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at it from that lens of you

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<v Speaker 4>are able to get a young star in Jalen Green

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<v Speaker 4>that if you can kind of get the mentals with

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<v Speaker 4>him right and kind of get him I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to say basketball IQ, but you kind of reel him

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<v Speaker 4>in a little bit, get the efficiency up, and get

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<v Speaker 4>him in the right spot. He's an all Star caliber

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<v Speaker 4>player in this league, has the potential to be one

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<v Speaker 4>of the deadliest offensive players in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a win. The tenth overall p we'll discuss it

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<v Speaker 1>further throughout the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Phoenix has a chance to get a team changing player

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<v Speaker 4>at that pick. High upside guys will live in that range.

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<v Speaker 4>You can consider that that has the potential to be

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<v Speaker 4>two young stars. Then on top of that, a Dylan

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<v Speaker 4>Brooks is a guy that can contribute in any locker

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<v Speaker 4>and for any NBA team that you drop him in.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a winning player day one.

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<v Speaker 4>He gives you all the things that you look for

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<v Speaker 4>in NBA players when it comes to three and D guys.

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<v Speaker 4>So considering do you want extra picks for it, absolutely?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want your own picks back from the team

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<v Speaker 4>that you dealt with, Absolutely, But the asking price was

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<v Speaker 4>too high for Kevin Durant and Phoenix at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day had to settle with what was available,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that's where you look at it through that lens.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they did well for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Suns are going to be very

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<v Speaker 2>good next year, but they will be fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Carve out some time next season to watch you some

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<v Speaker 2>Suns games. Devin Booker and Jalen Green next to each

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<v Speaker 2>other on the cour Jalen Green is an explosive offensive player.

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<v Speaker 2>The issue is that I think he's a little immature

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<v Speaker 2>and he's incredibly inconsistent. And for a team like Houston

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<v Speaker 2>that was stuck offensively, they were just kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>better version of what the Magic were. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>think about what they need, they and they actually in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways were more depleted offensively than the Magic were,

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<v Speaker 2>because at least the Magic could go, hey, Paolo, get

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<v Speaker 2>us a bucket. When Jalen Green wasn't in the zone.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't have anybody that could do that. Just at will,

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<v Speaker 2>just get us a bucket. They got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>really good players, they have defenders, but they needed what

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant brings because now they can go KD. We

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<v Speaker 2>need a point, you know, late in the game, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to get a basket. Just give it to Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they have that guy, Phoenix has a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>work to do. But I liked the Houston side of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant at this stage in his career couldn't just

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<v Speaker 2>go anywhere and make that team a title contender. All

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff about Miami wasn't willing to part ways with

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<v Speaker 2>hime Hakkez and whatever. I don't buy any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I don't think Miami was serious about

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<v Speaker 2>adding him, because I think Miami is smart. I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to give one of the more well run organizations

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA some credit that they know they could

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<v Speaker 2>add Kevin Durant and maybe they sell a few more

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<v Speaker 2>tickets and they're a little bit better than they were before.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't make them a title contender. I think KD

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<v Speaker 2>does do that for Houston, though. He's the perfect player

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<v Speaker 2>to drop in to what they have already created. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a really good situation for both sides. I'd really

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<v Speaker 2>like this from the Houston angle.

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<v Speaker 4>Kudos to them because again they took advantage of a

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<v Speaker 4>wounded animal in Phoenix. Of again, there was only so

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<v Speaker 4>much of a market for Kevin Durant and whoever they

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<v Speaker 4>were trading KDI two had all the leverage in the

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<v Speaker 4>situation because they knew Phoenix needed to get off of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does Houston do.

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<v Speaker 4>You're able to hold onto those future picks that we discussed,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're able to hold on to your best stuff

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<v Speaker 4>as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Green was the leading scorer for the.

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<v Speaker 4>Rockets last year, but alper and shen Gun is your

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<v Speaker 4>all Star, Amen Thompson, Reed Shepherd, Cam Whitmore, Jamari.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith Junior, Tarry Easen.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are your great young pieces that you have in

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<v Speaker 4>your pocket moving forward that can contribute to both winning now,

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<v Speaker 4>which many of those players did last season for Houston,

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<v Speaker 4>as well as building towards the future. And then you

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<v Speaker 4>start to build lineups for this Houston team and what

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to be able to look like. What does

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<v Speaker 4>Reed Shepherd? Can he take a year two jump and

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<v Speaker 4>really be a full time NBA player and a contributing

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<v Speaker 4>one at that? Can Jamaris Smith Junior to get to

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<v Speaker 4>the next level of just kind of it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>plateaued at about thirteen points to nine. He's a reliable

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<v Speaker 4>ish shooter, but can you get him too closer to

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<v Speaker 4>that fifteen to seventeen range one way or another. Though,

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<v Speaker 4>you start building lineups of Fred van Vliet and alpri

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<v Speaker 4>and Shen Gun on the outsides, and then the mid

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<v Speaker 4>court of Amen Thompson, Jamari Smith Junior, and Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of length.

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<v Speaker 4>Right there, not all necessarily great defenders, but that's a

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<v Speaker 4>problem for teams defensively. I think this Houston team is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be able to create a lot of advantages for

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<v Speaker 4>themselves with some of the interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Lineups they'll be able to throw out there on the court.

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<v Speaker 3>They do miss Dylan Brooks though, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a huge part of why their defense was

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<v Speaker 2>as good as it was last year. But I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson is the real deal and he should be able

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<v Speaker 2>to anchor things as well. Are you with me that

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<v Speaker 2>this now for right now? And there's still a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of moves to be made. This makes Houston the second

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<v Speaker 2>best team in the Western Conference. They were, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>they were already the second best team in the conference

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<v Speaker 2>record wise. Now they add Kevin Durant, an up clear

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade at scoring guard, small forward, whatever position.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean Kevin Durant. Here's the interesting thing. Phoenix

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't a playoff team last year. With Kevin Durant at

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<v Speaker 4>the center of it all, Houston is a much better

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<v Speaker 4>team around Kevin Durant than what Phoenix was last year.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think for surely you can kind of pencil

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<v Speaker 4>them in as a top as a home court advantage

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<v Speaker 4>team when it comes to round one in the playoffs. However,

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<v Speaker 4>when Denver still has Jokich in a full offseason, full

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<v Speaker 4>year of Lebron and Luca together in La can Anthony

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<v Speaker 4>Edwards and Minnesota put together a regular season that has

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<v Speaker 1>Those are questions that remain.

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<v Speaker 4>But right now, on paper, yes, I think talent wise,

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<v Speaker 4>mixed in with the coaching and the chemistry that you

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<v Speaker 4>have seen from a year ago, Houston should be one

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<v Speaker 4>of the top teams odds wise to come out of

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<v Speaker 4>the West next season.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lakers have to do something else. If I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to buy into them. Lebron and Luca are a that's

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<v Speaker 2>a star attraction, then they can win games here and

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<v Speaker 2>there throughout the course of the season. They can give

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<v Speaker 2>you a good record at the end of the regular season,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still not enough. You have to have a team

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<v Speaker 2>around those guys. Lebron is aging. Luca doesn't defend. That's

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<v Speaker 2>to me. The Lebron Luca thing is candy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd need a little more substance. But Denver's for real

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<v Speaker 2>for the reasons you laid out. They have Jokic and

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<v Speaker 2>they do have a good.

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<v Speaker 3>Team around him. The Clippers.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I could trust the Clippers for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just can't, So just forget about them. Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>is legit. I would say Oklahoma City, Houston, Minnesota right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and Denver are the teams that I trust. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going on with Golden State. They probably have

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<v Speaker 2>to make another move if you're gonna take them seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>Memphis losing bang and they head in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I think the West probably gets too much credit

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<v Speaker 2>for as loaded as it is, because if you're being

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<v Speaker 2>honest with yourself, I don't think you can go more

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<v Speaker 2>than four or five teams into the conference. So you go,

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<v Speaker 2>this team is a legitimate chance to represent this conference.

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<v Speaker 4>Partially because of how impressive Oklahoma City was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this year that the bar is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit higher like the bar in the West.

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<v Speaker 4>Comparatively to the bar in the East are too completely

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<v Speaker 4>different stories that you had Indiana representing the East this

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<v Speaker 4>year and they were on the doorstep last year, and

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<v Speaker 4>now the Tatum injury and now the Halliburton injury, the

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<v Speaker 4>question marks in Milwaukee. Cleveland showed that it was good

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<v Speaker 4>enough to put together a great regular season, but injuries

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<v Speaker 4>struck as injuries have shruck Cleveland throughout the entirety of

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<v Speaker 4>this Core four experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So the East seems.

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<v Speaker 4>Very open, whereas out west you do have that big

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<v Speaker 4>think it's one of those cases that you drop a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of those these Western teams in the East and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, Okay, those guys are closer to contenders and what

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<v Speaker 1>we give them credit for.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, then then we'll break how

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<v Speaker 2>many teams in the West if you drop them in

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<v Speaker 2>the East to be the number one seed next year,

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<v Speaker 2>now win the conference. We're just saying regular season, they're

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<v Speaker 2>the number one seed, home court advantage. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>only gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>Five. That's still that's still a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>What there's still so many, so many questions to be answered,

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, probably four four.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a good number.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like a better number, all right. Just something

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<v Speaker 3>to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up next our first four things, we've got updated

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<v Speaker 2>title odds, so we've got an update from the golf

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<v Speaker 2>event this weekend and a little bit on the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>draft as well, which is this week by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, I am ranked seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>Third overall for ROI.

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<v Speaker 2>That's return on investment over the past seven days on

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<v Speaker 2>better