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Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome.
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Speaker 3: How are we feeling? Today?
Speaker 1: Started out gloomy the day we're taping this, and then
the sun came out, so hopefully that's an omen for
good things to come. Yesterday I asked Greg Connor to
join me to talk Buffalo bills. And one of the reasons, Greg,
was you popped in my mind a neighbor had I
hope you don't mind me saying this had a maserati delivered,
and I go it, yeah.
Speaker 3: All every time I see you.
Speaker 1: Anytime I see a maserati, I always sing Joe Walsh's
song Life's Been Good my Maserati does one eighty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But before we.
Speaker 1: Get into the bill stuff, I hope I'm not getting
too deep or even too personal on some things. But
I know you had another loss in your family recently.
My condolences for that, and I know that you lost
your dad years ago. I got to tell you, man,
I've been having a day today, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I've been having a fucking day, like just sad, and
I can't figure out why.
Speaker 3: And I go, yeah, I think I know why. It's
just and the only reason I bring it up.
Speaker 1: I think it's something that's never really talked about, especially
by dudes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know Dad.
Speaker 5: My dad's identical twin.
Speaker 4: My uncle George passed away a couple of weeks ago,
and we just had the service this past weekend. My
dad passed away twenty five years ago. And you know,
I think I had mentioned to you one time after
your dad had passed away, that it doesn't go away.
Life fills into gaps, but there are moments and there
are times where it just reaches up and just kind
of kind of smashed a little bit. And for me,
for me, those times are often when I would turn
to him, when I would reach out to him, they
you know, whether it be something with my kids that
you know, I would look for guidance for, if it
was something that work, I just wanted to bitch to somebody.
Speaker 5: About that, Nobody would you know that I.
Speaker 4: Could do that and you would understand where I was
coming from, and you know, just even dealing with some
family things, it's, uh, those are the days for me,
in the moments where you know, you just get reminded
that he's not a phone.
Speaker 1: Call away, right, And I think for me it's the uh,
you know, even the academic stuff going back to school
now and I had to write a reflection paper and
I'm like, I probably would have sent it to him
to get his opinion, although he would take.
Speaker 3: Over, which is always it would always annoy me.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it was like I would
bounce those ideas or those because you know, a lot
of what I'm doing is actually philosophically based. I mean,
if you go through you know, the mental health counseling stuff,
there's a lot of Nietzschee and others. And I was like, God,
I just wish he was there, and it just it Boy,
was like a little I don't want to say a
gut punch today, but a little bit of a ooh
and uh uh, Yeah, it just was weird. And I thought, man,
there's not many people that I think ever talk about that.
Speaker 3: And I don't know how you. I don't know how
you deal with it.
Speaker 1: I think the best way to deal with anything as
I get older is to just recognize the emotion that's there,
sit with it, let it pass, don't react to it,
don't overreact to it, you know, no matter what it is.
And uh and and you know, allow yourself to maybe
be sad or enjoy the memory, you know, or try
to enjoy the memory.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I always try to keep my dad in
the top of my mind and talk about him all
the time. It helps me, and it keeps him close
and it keeps the memory going.
Speaker 5: And but yeah, it's it's good to recognize it, you know,
and and not to and to remember I am who
I am today because of him. Yeah, and a lot
of other people I've unfortunately lost.
Speaker 4: Recently, Jennifer lost her grandmother who was one hundred years old,
like three weeks ago. She was just a treasure She
was just this wonderful, sweet kind person, and you know,
I'll always remember that and I try to be that
way myself because of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting when you see people who had
such an impact and you go, boy, that was the
way to live.
Speaker 3: That's the way to do it. That's the way.
Speaker 1: All right, Onto the uh, the subject at hand, the
Buffalo Bills. I mean, there were people saying that they
thought they would drop this game as well, and I
was not one of them. I happened to be at
some online yesterday's seeing some people can't saying that it
was a second there a second half team, don't worry
about this, someone asking if they should bet. I'm thinking
they just did not look like they had their shit together.
Speaker 4: So as we talk about mental health. When I woke
up this morning, Bill, yeah, I had to say to myself,
I'm gonna have a good day.
Speaker 3: Okay, today is.
Speaker 5: Going to be a good day.
Speaker 4: I had to say it, and I said it to
myself like five times until I convinced myself that I
was going to have a good day because last night's
performance put me in a really bad mood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I greg.
Speaker 1: I did not watch the fourth quarter and I did
not read purposely anything today because I knew I'd be
talking to you, and I knew you would have some
really great, insightful thoughts on this, and I didn't want
them to be I don't know. I wanted to come
at it fresh, but I I just even feel like, offensively,
what's going on with Coleman.
Speaker 3: He can't get separation. The guy had It's like, come.
Speaker 4: On, well for me this game that I thought the
Bills were going to win this game. I thought that
the Patriots game was a scare for me before they
played the game, just because of their the Patriots and
Rabel's got a familiarity with the Bills, and he's beating
the Bills with the with the with Tennessee. This game,
I thought, I knew, I knew the Falcons had a
good defense. I knew the Falcons rushed the quarterback and
blitzed you know.
Speaker 5: HM for the defense.
Speaker 4: Going into this game than than than any other team
in the NFL. I thought that Joe Brady was going
to be better prepared with an offensive scheme and play
calling that the Bills wouldn't have been on their heels
and then forced Josh to make the decisions that he made.
That's the thing that's most troubling for me. I mean,
look your point about Kon. Yeah, that's Keon, but that's
been Kean's knock his entire career. Kean cannot Kean does
knock at separation on the ground. Kean gets separation in
the air. So the one thing I would so excited
about with Josh and Keon in the preseason at Fisher
was at how all the balls that Josh was throwing
Keon were above his shoulder pads into the air. He
makes those catches, He's gonna win that eight out of ten,
nine out of ten times. A couple of FROs yesterday,
particularly the one on fourth down he throws to him,
it was in the ground. Kean's not going to catch
that ball down low like that. That's just not in
his skill set. And he's not going to run a
pass route and get separation off the turn like that
unless it's high. Unless it's a high ball. So those
are the things for me. I didn't see Josh do
that yesterday. Everybody has a bad day. I'm just really
frustrated with Joe Brady's play design and his play calling. Uh,
and I'm hoping and hope, hopeful that for.
Speaker 5: The next to me week a.
Speaker 4: Playbook that makes it easier for Josh.
Speaker 5: You know, Andy.
Speaker 4: Reid is probably one of the best played designers in
the history of the NFL.
Speaker 5: And if you talk to when you listen.
Speaker 4: To Andy Reid talk about how he likes to design
his plays is I'd like Brady to get to this
and just a simple point.
Speaker 5: He likes to have a play.
Speaker 4: On one third or one half of the field, so
Mahomes has a litany of options. So he tries to
bring Mahomes to the right or to the left side
of the field, and then.
Speaker 5: He floods those zones on that.
Speaker 4: Side with three different left for get out of boundser run.
Josh didn't. Josh doesn't have that. He doesn't have any
deep threats. I didn't see Josh.
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't see Josh have the opportunity with the hot
routes when they were running crazy blitzes at him throughout.
He did get Dawson Knox in that first and that
first possession, you know, he threw a great ball to
him and for a touchdown. But I'm just not seeing
that evolution with this offensive play design and play calling.
These defenses know them now, they know they can get
after them, and that they've got to force Josh to
make quick reads. That's what they did last year. That's
what Kansas City did him last year in the playoffs.
And uh yeah, it's the frustration because of the potential
that you know, Look, Bill, it comes out of this
in life, right, Everything in life.
Speaker 5: Is based on expectations.
Speaker 4: If you expect your team to be successful, to win
the game, and they do, you're great.
Speaker 5: You're happy.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: If you didn't expect him to win and then they win,
you're happy.
Speaker 4: But when you expect something to happen and then it doesn't,
that's disappointment and frustration, which many of us, as in
Bill's Mafia I'm sure are experiencing today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you woke up this morning and it was
like cloudy and gray and he just want girl up.
It is interesting how the performance of a team, a
sports team, can really affect the psyche, i'll say, of
a city or an area.
Speaker 4: Which is why when I woke up this morning, I
said to myself, I'm gonna have a good day. I'm
gonna have a good day. Today is gonna be a
good day. And it is it's Sonny.
Speaker 3: Out, I'm talking to you.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a good day, but uh, what about defensively?
It just seems I don't know if it's more the injuries.
Are we waiting for some players to come back? What
is happening there? Because it just I mean, they couldn't
stop the run. It felt like last night at times.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean Bijon Robinson is he's the biggest
and the brightest new offensive talent in the NFL. And
you know, us playing them this this last week, you know,
last night with the way the defense has been decimated,
won by either people who have been required to sit out,
which I think would have helped against the run and injuries,
you know, and and then Ed Oliver comes back last
night and he makes mental mistake after mental mistake and
that does not win games. That is an uncustomary type
of of team or just that that McDermott has coached.
And in the defense, I mean, look, this defense is
not built to win game against the Derrick Henry's. It's
built to beat the Patrick Mahomes types.
Speaker 5: Right, And and.
Speaker 4: You know with Pennex, Penix did just enough last night
with London and Bijon, Uh, to really pick pick apart
and dissect what is a week secondary and our defensive
front couldn't get to Penix quick enough.
Speaker 5: To disrupt them in their rhythm. And that's a concern.
Speaker 1: It is a concern. Where do we see things or
like in your opinion from here And I know you
sort of mentioned this, but it dropped out because do
they have a is there a buye?
Speaker 3: Next week?
Speaker 5: Yeah? This week?
Speaker 4: Their next game is in Carolina on October twenty sixth?
Speaker 5: Okay, soon next.
Speaker 4: Week they have a bye, and then they travel to
Carolina to play on Sunday, October twenty.
Speaker 5: Sixth, which is Buffalo South.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, spending some time down there in North Carolina.
This is the Bill's Panthers game is going to is
the hottest ticket in North Carolina in twenty twenty five,
including when UNC played Duke and basketball.
Speaker 5: It's it's all the rade.
Speaker 4: And now the Carolina Panthers are playing playing decent football.
Speaker 1: But that does seem like a winnable game for them.
And then it's on to Kansas City? Correct where Kansas
City comes to Buffalo?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, you know, on all accounts, you
would have you would have thought that this would be
a nice warm up game for Buffalo. The Panthers game
would be a nice warm up game before Kansas City
came into town.
Speaker 5: You know, we might have.
Speaker 4: One lost underneath our belt, having two now going to Carolina.
I don't want to say it's a must win because
it's early in the season, but it's a must win.
Speaker 5: Offense has to get some mojo. The only scored fourteen points.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not gonna win games in the NFL
scoring fourteen points. We turn the ball three times against
the Patriots, You're not gonna win. Turn the ball over
three times. We turn the ball over twice last night,
and we only score fourteen points. There's not a chance
you can't even beat the Jets doing that.
Speaker 6: Maybe, oh no, So I mean your gut feeling on
the rest of the season, things that are correctable.
Speaker 1: A bye week kind of coming at the right time,
possibly coming off a loss, maybe it helps you regroup.
Speaker 3: I do worry about I do worry about.
Speaker 1: Kind of their the head, you know what I mean,
the mental space that they're in, just that here we
go again. And I don't know with professional athletes, and
certainly they have you know, uh, sports psychologists and things
to get them through all that. But it it it's
something where I feel like this break is a maybe
coming at the right time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're only as good as your last performance.
And you know, I always would want to be going
into going into a break with positivity, positive thoughts, positive
positive outcomes.
Speaker 5: You know, it does give I think the positive of
this is.
Speaker 4: Giving a team some adversity and some humility, which if
you build on it and you grow from it, you're
going to be better.
Speaker 5: You're going to be stronger, you know.
Speaker 4: I think every manager, every coaches, the ones that are
the best, take the talent they have, and they put
the talent in.
Speaker 5: The best positions possible to be successful.
Speaker 4: I have not necessarily seen that with respect to the
offense as much this year as I had in years past. Now,
can you say, how can Joe Brady, you know, forget
so much or become so dumb from one year to
the next. And a lot of it, truly is is
the talent that he has around him? Is he not
calling the place? Is he not putting the people that
are their talent wise in the right positions. Because if
that's the case, then that's a Brandon Dean and a
make Dermott decision making thing in terms of assessment of
talent the defense, you know, the defense.
Speaker 5: For me, you draft the kid in the first round
who's supposed to give you speed.
Speaker 4: He's supposed to who's supposed to tighten up the secondary,
and then you bring in Tredavius White back to give
you some veteran leadership with depth, and Harrison hasn't even
not only is he not playing, he hasn't even had
the experience of being on the field since training camp,
which was almost ten weeks ago, and it's like, you know,
can this kid even make make it back this year?
And can he contribute before the before December and getting
into January and make an impact?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: So those are the things as I look at the
team moving forward into Carolina is you know they got
to get through Mojo back. The bottom line is you
got to stop turning the ball over. It's fundamental football, bill,
Don't turn the ball over, don't commit s through the penalties.
The first first play of the game at Oliver's off
sides by a mile and they.
Speaker 5: Fumble, I mean, come on, ed those the things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as if coach as a manager, you're just like
what the frick is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean goes back when you start talking about
the coaching, you know, I feel like we're going to
start hearing McDermott has taken the team as far as
he can take them. And I don't know where your
mind is at with that statement, but it seems to
come up more and more, and especially around the playoffs. Right,
if they get to the championship game and they don't
advance to the super Bowl, or if they get to
the divisional series game and don't advance to the championship,
which has happened, there is.
Speaker 3: That rumbling underneath.
Speaker 1: I don't know where what you kind of feel about
that or how you feel about that.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean me with McDermott is I've always I've
always thought when he comes into the game management early
in his career.
Speaker 5: I thought that he did not do that. Well, I
think he is better at it now, right.
Speaker 4: I do think that the errors that the Bills have
made the last two weeks are correctable because to me,
it's disciplined and it's it's a mindset, and that to
me is what coaching is. And so McDermott this may
be one of the more challenging of McDermott's coaching careers,
of his coaching years, because there is an expectation now
he's come in and taken a team and got them disciplined,
corrected those types of mistakes, but the expectations were lower.
The mindset of the players was a little more humble
than what I think it is right now, and Josh
candidly played better. Yeah, it didn't look like Josh is
having fun anymore.
Speaker 5: He did when they're winning. He did win.
Speaker 4: It's earlier and this has been my knock on on Josh.
He almost gets too too. He takes himself too seriously.
He's got to go out there and just play football,
have fun at it, play it for the game that
it's at. He gets paid a lot of money for it.
That means he sh'd have that much more fun. I
think right now he's put that much more pressure on
himself because he feels the weight of the Bills mafia.
He's got to discard that and he's got to be
getting to have fun again, because that's what's going to
get us him playing loose, him playing fun, him playing
with energy, him getting everything going and trusting his instincts
rather than this remote, you know, mindset of my manipulation
of don't do this, don't do that.
Speaker 5: He's just got to go out there and just be
him and have fun playing the game.
Speaker 1: How many of us, though, have been in that situation
where you start to question things in your own head
and you do you underperform, right, because you're now almost
blocking instead of just being in the zone or in
the flow. And that's a problem. And I would think
for Josh it's it's got to be a huge head
game right now. The guy is in more commercials than
I've ever seen. It's got to be a head game
for him where the popularity has risen that now it
isn't just a team expectation, it's a Josh expectation. And
that's got to be really hard because I don't think
that that's necessarily like an ego thing where you would go, ah,
he's got a huge ego. He's like, no, this is
like a there's a great there's a huge expectation not
of just this team, but of me to deliver this
team we're on.
Speaker 5: But that's jobs, I mean, that's who he is.
Speaker 4: That's what's so redeeming and endearing about him, is that
he actually cares. I mean I right now, he's beating
himself up. He's beat himself up because he feels like
he let his team down. But this is the type
of guy as a person of who he is. He's
feeling away because he feels like he's let me down.
He feels like he's let you down. He feels like
he's let the entire community of the Bill's Mafia down.
And that is what, unfortunately, begins to weigh on you.
And then you start thinking, and then bad thought get
in your head, and then bad things happen. Look, the
power of your mind is so critic goal and so
important in terms of outcomes.
Speaker 5: If you think positively, and you and and and and.
Speaker 4: Golf is one of these things. You don't think about
the pond that's in front of you. You think about it.
You just think about the green. The more you think
about the pond, the pond, the more you're going in
the positive.
Speaker 5: In in life.
Speaker 4: You know, That's like I said, when I will come
this morning, it's like I'm gonna have a good day.
Why Because there's so much negative energy, there's so much
you know, disappointment that goes around that you get caught
up in it, and it becomes, you know, almost like
a self prophecy, because then your mood is affected, and
then you're not quite as energetic, then you're not quite
as positive, and then you look at something that happens,
and then you look at it in a negative way
as opposed to like accepting it or being able to
deal with it, to spiral down. And and that to
me is.
Speaker 5: What I don't want.
Speaker 4: What what I unfortunately think the Bills have gotten into
in these last two weeks because because look, this team's
tradition has been about getting so close and failing. You know,
one of the reason the why I think people are
so critical of mc dermott is because he's gotten close
and he's failed.
Speaker 5: Look, Bill, we spent.
Speaker 4: Twenty years in utter chaos of mediocrity that we couldn't
even make the playoffs, right, and now we make the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Now expectations changed, Yes, you know, there you go.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Mike Tomlin has not had a losing
record in what twenty years or fifteen years or something
with the Steelers, and now look at him now they're
four and one, right. You know, It's like, I don't
think Mike tom I think Mike Tomlin, and.
Speaker 5: He's won a super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.
Speaker 4: So for McDermott to answer your question after a long dietrock,
I still have confidence in McDermott. I still think McDermott
is a good coach. I do think McDermott will win
a Super Bowl. I just hope he does it with
the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: I hope he does it with the Buffalo Bills as well.
I think that well said, Greg, always well said. And
you're on your way to the Is it the Queen City?
Buffalo's the Queen City?
Speaker 5: Yes, the Queen City.
Speaker 3: All right, Well we'll wrap it up there because I have.
Speaker 1: I'm back in college, so to speak, master's level work,
but I have a group project that I really I mean,
the people in the group go, hey, you remind me
of my dad.
Speaker 3: I've gotten that from two young ladies. Two young ladies.
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4: And then in your response was your dad must be
an energetic, good looking, fun and funny guy.
Speaker 1: All I said was I did not say that, because
that would be but I said, your dad's got to
be pretty cool. Then that's all I said, because I
honestly don't know what to say sometimes because it's.
Speaker 3: A whole new world and not a whole new world.
Speaker 1: That's not fair to say it's different today, right, And
I don't know where. I don't want to step on
a landmine that I'm unaware of, if you know what
I'm saying verbally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I have a tremendous amount
of respect for you.
Speaker 5: There's always about you know.
Speaker 4: For me, it's always about learning and for you to
challenge yourself, you know, in an academic environment where things
are not the same as they were when we originally
went through. That experience is enlightening and I think it
will enrich your life and all rich the enriched the
lives of those that you're around, and that you continue
to educate on your podcast and everything else that you do.
Speaker 3: Well, that is true.
Speaker 1: And I will tell you the biggest thing because this
came up quick.
Speaker 3: It was like a Saturday.
Speaker 1: I got a call and classes started on Tuesday, and
so I decided to do it. And one of the
reasons I really did was my son Jamison, and I
like bringing him to campus because I want him to
see what is possible. And sometimes I think, you know,
I would always say I wasn't a big pusher of
the education as my family was more of it. As
long as you have a motor to do something like
Jackson may not. Academics may not have been his strength,
but he certainly got a motor to go and and
be successful.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, everybody's different, but with jameson, I like
him seeing that and he's asked to come now, so
that though. Okay, so we seem to be checking that box. Now,
the question is what did I get myself into. As
I'm writing reflection papers and reading NonStop, I go, man.
Speaker 3: Hey, you bring the dog to the office. Look at
the dog back there. Oh both of them. Wow, they
didn't even make a peep.
Speaker 5: And I got ocs.
Speaker 3: That's lovely.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you Greg for your time. I
appreciate it. And go Bills.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, sorry about any drops now we'll make it
working there. I apologize for that. But yeah, it's always
great to talk. You can't wait to uh to get
back in the studio and see it. And by the way,
your intro, the intro into your podcast is my favorite
of all time.
Speaker 5: And because I actually lived my life, try to live
my life that way. Yeah, you know, life gives you
a lemon, throw a little back in it, and uh.
Speaker 3: And that's a good day.
Speaker 1: That's right, exactly, that is exactly right. And Kevin wrote
that one actually, so God hats off to Kevin.
Speaker 5: I'm glad he finally wrote something that was pretty good.
Speaker 3: All right for Greg Connors for the dogs wait Oxen?
Speaker 5: Who Oxen?
Speaker 3: For oxen gg. I'm Bill Moran, Thank you Greg. We'll
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Because this fall, the only thing you should be falling
for is a brand new ride