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<v Speaker 1>the shows this week will actually be based on listener commentary,

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<v Speaker 1>things that people asked me to talk about. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, two Fridays ago, I did

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<v Speaker 1>And the subject is the Bermuda Triangle. That's a good subject.

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<v Speaker 1>When is the last time you heard about the the

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<v Speaker 1>Bermuda triangle? How long has that been? Honestly, I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>about the Bermuda triangle. I had a book on all

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<v Speaker 1>the triangles and it was an old book that was

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<v Speaker 1>falling apart. I got rid of it. Since that book,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever thought of the Bermuda Triangle

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<v Speaker 1>and I was talking to my friend writer Lee, who

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<v Speaker 1>does Raised by Giants and over on YouTube, and Writers said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we could talk about the Bermuda Triangle. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great idea. Writer, we should talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Meina Triangle. So we have writer with us tonight. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bring him on in just a moment, but before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into that. I grew up in Florida, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was just my household or my family,

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<v Speaker 1>but in Florida people know about the Bermuda Triangle because

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<v Speaker 1>it's right off the coast of Florida. Well, I mean technically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very large area that spans from southeastern Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the Miami area, all across the Bahamas,

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<v Speaker 1>and it stretches out to Bermuda in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic Ocean and then downward to I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the tip of its like northern Puerto Rico. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just above Hati and the Dominican Republic, So you get

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<v Speaker 1>this big, big triangle. Now, also living in Florida and

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about the Bermuda Triangle and then watching the Discovery Channel,

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<v Speaker 1>the History Channel, watching these different shows I remember as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, I was fascinated with something like this, anything supernatural,

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<v Speaker 1>anything unexplained. But as a kid, I didn't understand that

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<v Speaker 1>much of what you see on the Discovery Channel and

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<v Speaker 1>the History Channel is a stretch of the facts and

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<v Speaker 1>the imagination, to say the And so as I learned

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<v Speaker 1>more about everything I was interested in, especially you know,

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<v Speaker 1>UFOs and mysterious things like the Bermuda Triangle. Over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned, well, there's definitely mystery there, and there might

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<v Speaker 1>be individual explanations for why a ship or why a

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<v Speaker 1>plane disappeared, but it's probably not because this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big conspiracies that it's been concealed in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bermuda Triangle, that there's an Atlantean pyramid that has a

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<v Speaker 1>crystal at the top that beams a signal that disables electronics.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's like an EMP or if

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<v Speaker 1>someone took some LSD or some DMT or something like

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<v Speaker 1>that and they imagine that. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>situation is, but that's one of those sort of tabloid

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<v Speaker 1>stories that goes alongside of the Bermuda Triangle. Right. You

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<v Speaker 1>hear something like that and you're thinking well, that's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy or you believe it. And either way, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you believe it or you think it's crazy, it takes

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<v Speaker 1>away from the true mystery of the Bermuda Triangle. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the question is like is this thing still active?

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<v Speaker 1>Do planes and boats still go missing or have issues

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<v Speaker 1>with their electronics? I mean, with the amount of influence

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<v Speaker 1>something like this has had on pop culture. Not maybe

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<v Speaker 1>as much anymore, but it was a lot bigger, probably

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago. For as much influence as something like

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<v Speaker 1>this has had, you don't really hear anything about it today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of died off in terms of popularity. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are also other triangles around the world. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one off the coast of Japan, probably the other

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<v Speaker 1>major famous triangle. But the Bermuda Triangle, with all the popularity,

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<v Speaker 1>you would think that like thousands of ships and thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of planes, like there's just fleets of ships and just

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<v Speaker 1>like ten thousand planes at the bottom of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's not actually true. This triangle that's in

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<v Speaker 1>the North Atlantic or in the central to South Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, it's in North America, the Atlantic Ocean. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it goes south to north, but it's mainly kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in central to south. They estimate about fifty ships

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty planes have disappeared. That's a lot, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>they were big ships, big planes, but it's not kind

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. My impression at least was always that

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<v Speaker 1>there were like thousands of planes, and like anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>flies into this thing, immediately the plane just vanishes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like an episode of the Twilight Zone. You're in Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>and there's dinosaurs. But that's not really the case. There's

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<v Speaker 1>only been really maybe seventy different cases of some of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff disappearing in the Bermuda Triangle. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is the boundaries of this Bermuda Triangle. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can look at a map and they can highlight the area.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Miami to Puerto Rico to Mute up in

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<v Speaker 1>the north of the Atlantic, central North Atlantic, the very

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<v Speaker 1>northern tip. But the boundaries really aren't agreed upon universally,

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<v Speaker 1>so not everybody even agrees where the boundaries of this

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<v Speaker 1>thing are. Some people have it coming down to Haiti

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<v Speaker 1>and Cuba, maybe Hell, maybe even Jamaica, and some people

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<v Speaker 1>have it extending up into like the East coast of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. I mean I was always under impression

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid when they said that this thing was

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<v Speaker 1>off the coast of Florida, off the East coast. I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought it was like if I went to Daytona

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<v Speaker 1>and looked out at the Atlantic Ocean, that that was

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<v Speaker 1>the Bermuda Triangle. And that's not the case unless you

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<v Speaker 1>go several hundred miles out into the ocean. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>hit the very tip of it. But it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>agreed upon where the boundary is. So I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that makes research really difficult because if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>map out planes or ships that have gone missing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what if a plane or a ship goes missing just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, anywhere else in the world, like that Malaysian

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<v Speaker 1>flight for example, that didn't go missing in the Bermuda Triangle,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still went missing. Did it fall into a

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<v Speaker 1>Bermuda triangle like vortex? We just didn't know about that

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<v Speaker 1>particular triangle. I mean, how many things go through what

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<v Speaker 1>we call Bermuda Triangle and they don't have any issues

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<v Speaker 1>at all? Is it only certain times of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it only certain times of the day. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>only during storms? A portal opens up in the clouds

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<v Speaker 1>like there are lots and lots of questions to ask

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of things to consider when we look at

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<v Speaker 1>something like this, especially when we try to really get

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<v Speaker 1>down into the details of it. And of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mystery, but there are also very earth based,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, material scientific explanations. One of the major

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<v Speaker 1>theories is that at least for boats, there might be

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<v Speaker 1>rogue waves that strike a larger you know, vessel or

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller vessel even worse for a smaller vessel and

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<v Speaker 1>capsize it and sink it and you know, disappears. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's an explanation obviously for why that is. And even

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<v Speaker 1>if it is a supernatural explanation, there's still an explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>Very few things have no explanation. We as humans might

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<v Speaker 1>not have an explanation, but there's an explanation somewhere we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't really know. According to the US National Oceanic

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<v Speaker 1>and Atmospheric Administration, there is this is a quote. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no evidence that mysterious disappearance has occur with any

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<v Speaker 1>greater frequency in the Bermuda Triangle than any other large,

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<v Speaker 1>well traveled area of the ocean. Well based on the evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be inclined to agree with that. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes ago, boats and planes go missing elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't call those areas the Bermuda triangle. We

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<v Speaker 1>only call this the Peria triangle because of the area Bermuda.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a triangle within the area creates

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<v Speaker 1>a triangle the area that these planes and ships have

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<v Speaker 1>gone missing, and there's a cluster of them within that triangle.

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<v Speaker 1>But if something goes missing outside of that triangle, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we still might turn it into some big conspiracy like

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<v Speaker 1>the Malaysian flight, but it doesn't get the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of attention as say the Bermuda Triangle, although certainly people

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that. When we heard about the Malaysian Air

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<v Speaker 1>three was at MH three seventy that went missing. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of theories about that. It was over a

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<v Speaker 1>patent of vortext opened up. One of my favorite conspiracies

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<v Speaker 1>I read in Time magazine. This is from Time magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>The Illuminati did it. That's yes, the Illuminati. They they're

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<v Speaker 1>definitely yeah. They I don't know how they did it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did it. It says, this is Time magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>the Illuminati. One guess points to the supposed vortex energy

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<v Speaker 1>and the Earth's surface that the Illuminati. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>combining two ridiculous things here. Well, one that's true, one

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little ridiculous. The Illuminati used the vortex energy

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<v Speaker 1>points of the Earth or ancient aliens were working with

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<v Speaker 1>the Illuminati. This is right from Time magazine. Who agent

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<v Speaker 1>Amelans who control the energy grid in order to disappear

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<v Speaker 1>the plane. That's my favorite Malaysian airline missing flight conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 1>Without further ado, let's bring on our good friend Ryder Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a full show for tonight, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>full two hours every day this week. It's just the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I just recorded these shows ahead of time. Rider Lee

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<v Speaker 1>is with us. Writer, thank you so much for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Let's talk about the Bermuda triangle. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think so far of what I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Said Bermuda Bahama gone, I'm pretty Mama.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have brought you in with that Beach Boys dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Beach Boys is freaking classic. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, dude, Like first off, things are

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<v Speaker 2>having me on, really appreciate it. Always joy and and

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<v Speaker 2>honor to be on your show. Always love talking with you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you and you're right and seeing that because the

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<v Speaker 2>Bermuda Triangle was kind of one of the first things

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of got me into the community as well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like in the ripe days of YouTube in

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<v Speaker 2>like two thousand and eight, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when they had all the conspiracy videos where they would

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<v Speaker 2>do lists, remember list where they would do like the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. Some of those were like some of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite videos. And the Bermuda Triangle was always like

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<v Speaker 2>a mystery like they which a lot of the shows,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were mentioning, like with Discovery Channel and the

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<v Speaker 2>History Channel, those shows aren't meant to give you any answers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. They're just meant to kind of wanst.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. That's to keep you on the hook, to

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<v Speaker 2>keep you to come back to continue to listen. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not there to like solve any mystery. And always thought

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<v Speaker 2>that the Bermuda Triangle was really interesting. And the latest

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<v Speaker 2>disappearance was in twenty nineteen with a craft called the Piper,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that some wreckage was actually found or

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<v Speaker 2>a body actually came back. I think the strange ones

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones that they don't find any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>evidence of them ever being there. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, dude, the ocean is huge, brow like you

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<v Speaker 2>you can get lost in the ocean really easily, Like

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<v Speaker 2>craft goes down like it's just buried. It's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can get lost in a large lake

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<v Speaker 1>what direction you're going exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's the other triangles, like the Great Lakes triangle,

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<v Speaker 2>which is another really interesting one, and it's been estimated

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<v Speaker 2>that six thousand vessels have went missing in the Great

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<v Speaker 2>Lakes and only fifteen hundred of them have actually found

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<v Speaker 2>evidence of them going missing.

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<v Speaker 1>More than Bermuda, Right, that's a lot more than Bermuda,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just they're just gone like they don't And

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<v Speaker 2>you would think that because the Great Lakes are like

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<v Speaker 2>a much smaller of an area. I mean, they are

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<v Speaker 2>really big. I've been up there before and I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>the how big it is. I mean, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it just goes on forever and ever. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the ocean, but it's not nearly as big as

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean, so that one is really strange how these

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<v Speaker 2>ships and vessels can just go missing in a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>large body of water, but not as large as the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more understandable that something can go missing in the

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<v Speaker 2>ok because is so expansive and it probably goes down

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<v Speaker 2>super deep. But in a lake it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>different of a story. But I guess that in a

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<v Speaker 2>much as it is in the ocean, it could just

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<v Speaker 2>sink and then nothing wouldever come up because there's not

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<v Speaker 2>really washing ashore. But that's only like a quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of craft that's gone missing in the Great

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<v Speaker 2>Lakes Triangle has been found, or any evidence of them

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<v Speaker 2>ever being there has ever been found.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have other permuta like triangles, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have not just the one in the Great Lakes. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad you brought that up. There's also one I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's off of the coast of Or it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>part of southern southeastern Massachusetts out into the ocean a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. It's called the Bridgewater Triangle, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>the Bennington Triangle, which is southwestern Vermont where things it's

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<v Speaker 1>a site where things go missing. So there's some of

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<v Speaker 1>these that are on land. Of course, you have vortexas

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about Skinwalker Ranch, although I'm very skeptical of

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<v Speaker 1>that place. So there's some on land as well as

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<v Speaker 1>out in the ocean. There's bodies of water like the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Lakes. And then I think probably one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more famous ones is I learned this really early on,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the counterpart in the east to the bringing

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<v Speaker 1>A Triangle is the Devil's Triangle, or they call it

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<v Speaker 1>the Devil's Sea, and this is in the Pacific Ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually off the coast of Japan, and there have

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<v Speaker 1>been strange lights, magnetic anomalies, and boats usually a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fishing boats that go missing in this area, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Japanese government's been investigating that since like the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifties I think it was. So this is global plus

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<v Speaker 1>there's also I don't know if you remember reading ever

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<v Speaker 1>about the what was it called out Atlantic anomaly. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a Bermuta triangle in space. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have these anomalies in lakes and oceans and space I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably something that if scientists really set down and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to explain what was causing this, we could There's

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<v Speaker 1>just no interest, I guess, in trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what's causing it. But there's all kinds of anomalies and

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<v Speaker 1>that causes issues with navigation, and that could cause a

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Also when you think of the times of when

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these vessels went missing at the Bermuda Triangle,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure navigation was not the best in

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<v Speaker 2>electronic equipment was not the best, So it could have

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<v Speaker 2>been some sort of electrical storm. That's been one of

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<v Speaker 2>the running theories as to the disappearances, Like they went

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<v Speaker 2>into an electrical storm and shorted out there electron and

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<v Speaker 2>then they crashed into the ocean. I mean, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>at a high altitude and like you get hit by

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of lightning or you're involved in some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of storm, you know, and you're high up, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a deep nose dive directly into the ocean

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to be buried within a lot of water.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the first when did the first disappearance

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<v Speaker 2>happened in the Bermuda training. I think it was like

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixteen or something like that. Like that's in the

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<v Speaker 2>very early years of like aerospace travel with like planes

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what year did you say?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was nineteen sixteen. It might have been

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit later, as.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking on the Encyclopedia Britannica just to confirm that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen, nineteen eighteen. Sorry, yeah, nineteen eighteen. I knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was early in our you know, ways of navigating you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the sky, and then they kind of went from there

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of you know, like hey, like our

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<v Speaker 2>equipment was just not as good as it was. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you have another triangle that's really interesting, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the Alaskan Triangle, where more people go missing per capita

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<v Speaker 2>in this Alaskan Triangle than anywhere else in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>And that one was a huge mystery too, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>on land, and that kind of gets you know, relating

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<v Speaker 2>into the missing four one one people and the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it's it's all connected in some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ways. And I think David Politis should do a

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<v Speaker 2>new documentary on these triangles and map out where all

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<v Speaker 2>these people are going missing. But it is really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>how but again in Alaska, it's a very remote area.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not you know, there's not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>up there, so it's you know, feasible that people can

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<v Speaker 2>just die from succumb to the elements, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you also have like the it's kind of the same

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<v Speaker 2>situation with the dut Love Past incident. It's the same

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<v Speaker 2>situation with the Corvinia incident in nineteen ninety three, which

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<v Speaker 2>they almost the exact same thing happened as did dat

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<v Speaker 2>Love Past incident, except that there was a survivor Valentinia, Corvenia.

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<v Speaker 2>That incident is very interesting where they're just hiking in

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<v Speaker 2>this mountain in Russia and one by one they all

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<v Speaker 2>start just falling to the ground and like convulsing and

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<v Speaker 2>bleeding out of their eyes, nose, and mouth. And only

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<v Speaker 2>one survivor of that because she ran away and then

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<v Speaker 2>she went these kayakers found her and she went to

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<v Speaker 2>the police station and gave her report of what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the only way that we know anything about

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<v Speaker 2>that case, or it would have been another kind of

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<v Speaker 2>diatlov pass event where these bodies are just discovered weeks

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<v Speaker 2>later after the incident, and nobody knows how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that if you look at the so you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the Alaska Triangle, I read that they say like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand people have vanished in that large forest, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's always some basic explanation people got lost. Sure that

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<v Speaker 1>can explain some of them. Globally too, not just in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime people vanished like that same thing in the ocean, lakes,

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<v Speaker 1>on land and gener there's always people that make dumb decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>or people get swept up in a storm, or people

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<v Speaker 1>that just lose track of where they are. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these cases we're talking about, like if we

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the Bermuda Triangle and the military, not

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<v Speaker 1>like civilians, but the military, who even if it was

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<v Speaker 1>older technology, you know, fifty sixty seventy eighty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the military has had incidents going back to nineteen eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first incident. Actually the USS Cyclops which

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<v Speaker 1>was going to Baltimore disappeared inside the triangle. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though that was nineteen eighteen, that would have been at

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<v Speaker 1>least we would assume that the highest level technology probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have been in these military ships at least compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the you know, civilian vessels, and they found no

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<v Speaker 1>wreckage of it. That was in nineteen eighteen, and then

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven years later, a whole squadron of bombers. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a very famous story American Lieutenant Charles Carrol Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>This whole squadron, actively known as Flight nineteen disappeared in

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<v Speaker 1>the airspace above the Breuta Triangle. So and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>wreckage or anything found. So the military has had a

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<v Speaker 1>ship and they had an entire squadron of bombers disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's when you get into that. I don't to me,

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<v Speaker 1>rider that's a little bit more than just a mystery,

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<v Speaker 1>because that means like that's a lot of planes all

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<v Speaker 1>disappearing essentially at once, with no evidence. No in the military,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even though it was nineteen eighteen, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the the planes were twenty seven years later. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the military is a little bit more on top of

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<v Speaker 1>things than say a fishing vessel or just some people

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<v Speaker 1>out on a boat. And to lose track of all

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<v Speaker 1>those planes, to lose track of a military vessel and

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<v Speaker 1>they find no remains of it, I mean that could

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<v Speaker 1>also be because they weren't doing the follow up investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have the same kind of technologies and satellites

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this to find evidence of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>But then again we find today that, well, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>find certain things like that Malaysian plane with all of

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<v Speaker 1>our satellites and all of our technology. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that tells me that it's a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>than just coincidence, or a little bit more than just oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a natural explanation. I mean, you would think that

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that all those planes wouldn't suffer the

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<v Speaker 1>same fate. Probably at the same time, there's something maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more I only say supernatural, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just beyond what we can understand. It's something a little

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<v Speaker 1>more supernatural to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you also have the Philadelphia experiment in nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 2>three as well, So maybe some of these planes and

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<v Speaker 2>these craft and these vessels that were going missing in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bermuda triangle, they were trying to figure it out

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<v Speaker 2>by you know, supposedly I mean, trying to make another

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<v Speaker 2>something disappear to where they can control it and then

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<v Speaker 2>have it reappear. I mean, regardless of what you think

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<v Speaker 2>about the Philadelphia experiment, I think it's actually it's.

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<v Speaker 1>You broke possible, you broke up really bad. Their case

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<v Speaker 1>to say that again, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>The Philadelphia Experiment. Where did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the last moment there where you said.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, regardless of what you think of the

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia Experiment, I think that it's, you know, at least interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the more interesting conspiracies that are out there,

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<v Speaker 2>though you know the history of it is pretty suspect

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<v Speaker 2>and has been wrapped into well, you know, time travel

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<v Speaker 2>and for Space program and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that thought, We're going to take a break. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>come right back and go go back to Rider on

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Experiment. I'm Ryan Gable. This is the Secret

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<v Speaker 1>Teachings Bermuda Triangle and other Triangles with Ryder Lee. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. You are listening to the Secret Teachings Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Ryan Gable. We have Rider Lee with

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<v Speaker 1>is tonight a good friend of mine. He hosts Raised

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<v Speaker 1>by Giants on YouTube. You can find his show Raised

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<v Speaker 1>by Giants. It's Ryder Lee Tonight. The Bermuda Triangle is

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<v Speaker 1>at the center of our focus, not just the Bermuda Triangle,

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<v Speaker 1>but just I guess what that represents in the larger

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<v Speaker 1>context of other anomalies that we find worldwide. We have

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<v Speaker 1>the Bermuda Triangle here in North America. If you go

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<v Speaker 1>across the ocean to Japan, they have the Devil's Sea

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<v Speaker 1>or what's called the Devil's Triangle. There's also other triangles

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<v Speaker 1>by name triangles the Bennington Triangle, the Bridgewater Triangle, the

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan Triangle. These are respectively, off of the coast of

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts or somewhere near Massachusetts in Vermont, and then Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I'm pretty sure that's the main area where

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<v Speaker 1>Ryder was talking about. These ships have gone missing in

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Lakes, the lake known as Lake Michigan. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there are, of course, there are lots of other locations.

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<v Speaker 1>Right there's the Alaska Triangle, which is more of a forest.

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<v Speaker 1>And in all of these cases, whether it's a forest

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<v Speaker 1>or it's a lake, or it's the ocean, or it's

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<v Speaker 1>just on land, there's all kinds of theories. Right, vortex

444
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<v Speaker 1>is aliens, the illuminati. There's always some kind of cop out,

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<v Speaker 1>either by ignoring that it exists because we can't explain it,

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<v Speaker 1>or by saying that it's the result of aliens or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a really fascinating subject and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to really take the time to break this down and

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<v Speaker 1>have a discussion about it tonight. I hope that you're

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the show. You can reach out to the show

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<v Speaker 1>TST radio at Protonmel dot com and the Secret Teachings

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<v Speaker 1>dot if. Oh, remember I am out of town. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a prerecorded show tonight, but it is a new show,

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<v Speaker 1>a fresh show, and you'll get that all this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll start recording additional news shows next week

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<v Speaker 1>as I travel about on my adventures. So rider Lely,

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<v Speaker 1>our guess is sceiving a good friend of mine. Co

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<v Speaker 1>host writer, you were talking about the Philadelphia experiment and

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<v Speaker 1>the missing planes collectively known as Flight nineteen in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bermuda Triangle dating back to the nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, well, Ryan, I can confirm that it is

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<v Speaker 2>an ancient piece of Atlantian with the tip of the

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<v Speaker 2>pyramid that is making these craft disappear. I just remote

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<v Speaker 2>viewed it during the break and it has been confirmed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm about to make a YouTube video about it

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<v Speaker 2>with the title scene right after the show. Bermuda Triangle

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<v Speaker 2>Atlantis confirmed and it's amazing and thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>views on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Put remote viewing in there. Yeah, and you get to

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<v Speaker 1>get all the little hashtags remote viewing, Atlantis, Crystal Pyramid,

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<v Speaker 1>Ancient Aliens, and you will make a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>off that. Click click click click click.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And then I'm gonna take an excavation team

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<v Speaker 2>down there, and then we're going to you know, skim

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<v Speaker 2>off some of the top of the pyramid, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take it to these conferences and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to sell it as a dust from the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the Atlantean pyramid underneath.

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<v Speaker 1>The personal tea. That would sell really well in Sedona.

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<v Speaker 2>At Leanthian Pyramid shavings.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, like fifty, the Philadelphia experiment is a really

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<v Speaker 1>good thing to bring up, because I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly a military project, and some of the first planes

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<v Speaker 1>and ships to disappear in the Beruda Triangle were military.

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<v Speaker 1>That could also be because the military does track their stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe people went missing before that in the early

487
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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century, but nobody even realized it or paid attention.

488
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<v Speaker 1>It just didn't make news. You know, someone went on

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<v Speaker 1>a boat and didn't come back. The military loses something,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a big story, and it was the military.

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<v Speaker 1>Around the time that flight nineteen of these different bombers,

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<v Speaker 1>around the time they went missing was when the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>experiment was ongoing. So maybe the military did have something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it, but that doesn't negate the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that everywhere else you look in the world, from Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>to Japan, you find these these triangles or triangle like

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<v Speaker 1>anomalous areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I'm sure if you just go back through history

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<v Speaker 2>in the times of war and people having these you know,

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<v Speaker 2>vessels and ships and stuff like, things are just going

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<v Speaker 2>to go missing. I mean, Kenneth Arnold in nineteen forty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever before he's seen those strange craft in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>He was looking for missing military aircraft.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point, and up and around in Washington

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<v Speaker 2>around Mount Rainier. So you know, I think since the

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<v Speaker 2>since we've had these vessels in these ships like things

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<v Speaker 2>have just you know, kind of gone missing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you have that whole thing of like ghost ships. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've heard of these where they'll just find a

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<v Speaker 2>giant ship on the ocean that doesn't have any crew

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<v Speaker 2>in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Story about that relatively recently, it was I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were Korean ghost ships. I read about that recently.

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<v Speaker 2>That one's a really strange one. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on there, Like that one's really weird, like

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to these people? Where did they go? Did

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<v Speaker 2>they just abandon the entire ship? If so, where are

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<v Speaker 2>their bodies? Like did they find them? Where did they go?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, each is different, but that story of well

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<v Speaker 1>any story of ghost ship, but just the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>the ghost ship. I mean you could relate that to

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia program too, right, because people supposedly were pulled

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<v Speaker 1>off the boat, or they someone might have jumped off

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<v Speaker 1>the boat. I mean, people go missing, or people might

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<v Speaker 1>say there's something to do with time travel here and

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<v Speaker 1>they sent the boat back in time or tried to

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<v Speaker 1>teleport it. And there's all kinds of different theories. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a true mystery. You know, we probably will never know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point that the ghost ships.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the ghost ships are super interesting and those have

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<v Speaker 2>been happening, like there's so many cases of ghost ships

533
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<v Speaker 2>and phantom ships that's another name for them, and it's

534
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<v Speaker 2>been happening for a really long time, like something that's

535
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<v Speaker 2>just just happens and it's really it's unexplainable, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been cemented into mythology and it's turned into

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<v Speaker 2>you know them. I think that's where some of the

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<v Speaker 2>mythology comes from with the flying Dutchman, and you know,

539
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<v Speaker 2>ghostly types of apparitions come from, like finding these ships

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<v Speaker 2>with like no crew aboard them.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of fota morgana?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't been a song as Japanese.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, I think I don't think it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a fata morgana might be Latin, but fata

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<v Speaker 1>morgana is it yets Latin? It means well, it's come

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I think it has a different meaning, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's come to mean kind of like some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>what do they call it, like a mirage, castle in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky or boat in the sky. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>literally translates to superior mirage. So if you look up

551
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<v Speaker 1>these images, you should look these up so you can

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<v Speaker 1>comment on it. I think this is kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>origin of the flying Dutchman. You have boats that based

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<v Speaker 1>on the lighting and based on where you where your position,

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<v Speaker 1>like where you're standing and looking on the horizon, it

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<v Speaker 1>appears as if the is flying like it's lifted above

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<v Speaker 1>the water, and these have been seen all around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>even recently, like I did a show in these probably

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half ago. They're probably also responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for seeing cities and clouds. That's one of the definitions

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<v Speaker 1>of a fata morgana, like castle in the sky or

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<v Speaker 1>city in the sky. It had had that over China,

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<v Speaker 1>what seven eight something like that years ago. You haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen that. You should look at an Anybody who wants

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<v Speaker 1>to see that, just type in fata morgana fat a

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<v Speaker 1>m O r g A n A fata morgana.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really interesting. I have to check that one out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, you know, if we have ghost ships

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<v Speaker 2>and these things disappearing like, we should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>have ghost planes too, right, that might be what these

571
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<v Speaker 2>UFOs are just ghost planes.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that. Look at you making all the all

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<v Speaker 1>these short TikTok clips. We can post ghost planes, ghost

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<v Speaker 1>flying saucers. Well, if they were ghost planes, you'd assume

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<v Speaker 1>that they would you know, they would crash. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I guess if they're crashing in the ocean, where

577
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>where did the people go? Though? That's that's such a bizarre,

578
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<v Speaker 1>strange thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean a ghost plane could be It technically

580
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<v Speaker 2>could be a drone, all right. We know that the

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<v Speaker 2>military has had you know, highly advanced drones for a

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<v Speaker 2>really long time. I mean a non piloted plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's technically what a like a ghost plane would mean, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be nobody's on board.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they ever find the I'm pretty sure they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but they ever find that there's no bodies on these

588
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 1>ghost chips, right, Like there's there's no bodies, there's just

589
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<v Speaker 1>the crew's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there. I think some of them might

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<v Speaker 2>have had some.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of of every case is different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that there's some that have like there's

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<v Speaker 2>at least evidence of people have been on board recently

595
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<v Speaker 2>as far as bodies, and I'm not sure, but I'm

596
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<v Speaker 2>I think that, I mean, there had to have been

597
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<v Speaker 2>some that had some kind of at least evidence that

598
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<v Speaker 2>somebody was on there recently. But I think the majority

599
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<v Speaker 2>of the ghost ships that's been found have like no

600
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<v Speaker 2>one has been there. The crew is gone, the captain

601
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<v Speaker 2>has gone, there's not any passengers. It's just floating out

602
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<v Speaker 2>there in the sea like unattended. Which that makes you think, well,

603
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<v Speaker 2>you know, could could another vessel have come up and

604
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<v Speaker 2>then they just switched boats. But then at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, if that boat is like it hasn't

606
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<v Speaker 2>sink and there's like really nothing wrong with.

607
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<v Speaker 1>It, then why would they abandon it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Why would they just jump ship like that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's also important to point out when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about ghost ships that these aren't These aren't like

611
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<v Speaker 1>Titanic size ships. Usually they're not like aircraft carrier ships.

612
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<v Speaker 1>They're usually smaller vessels, not like a dinghy necessarily, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that could be a ghost ship. They're usually

614
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<v Speaker 1>smaller vessels. It's not like some giant ocean liner like

615
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<v Speaker 1>a carnival cruise that's found with that would be really disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I think some of the early ones were

618
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<v Speaker 2>just like sailboats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so maybe one or two three people on board

620
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that were missing, Yeah, maybe fell overboard a storm or

621
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<v Speaker 1>something like that. But I think there are some larger

622
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<v Speaker 1>than sailboat. I guess depend on how big the cell

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<v Speaker 1>boat is. I just think that's important to point out.

624
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<v Speaker 1>And also, you know, we brought up the Alaska Triangle

625
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's a forest and you look at forests, lakes, oceans,

626
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 1>any body of water, even rivers. You know, traditionally, even

627
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>with the Olympics, we saw a couple of weeks ago

628
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.519
<v Speaker 1>the opening ceremony and they had it on the Sayan River,

629
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>which is personified by the goddess Iquana. So everything in

630
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>nature was personified. And when you would have let's say,

631
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a large body of water and it would be personified

632
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 1>by a deity, often you would offer sacrifices on the water,

633
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 1>a little raft, little boat, and you'd offer the sacrifices

634
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 1>to this deity and it probably would end up, you know,

635
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.800
<v Speaker 1>somewhere on a shore somewhere else that you know, and

636
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe people would take it on the other shore, whatever

637
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the offering was, or you know, maybe it sank or something.

638
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>You say, well, the goddess took the offering. And it's

639
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of probably a similar something like that or something

640
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 1>similar to that as probably where the idea of bodies

641
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:06.119
<v Speaker 1>of water are places by which things move in and

642
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>out of this reality, and that probably also has something

643
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>additionally to do with just birth in general. Right, the

644
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>birth canal where the water breaks and the baby comes

645
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 1>down the birth canal. It's a portal, this waterway is

646
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>a portal to the other world. That's why the you know,

647
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a boat in the Afterlife in Egypt and the

648
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Book of the Dead. You go on the boat, you're

649
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.079
<v Speaker 1>in the water, you go through the different levels of

650
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the underworld, the afterlife. This is a very common theme

651
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 1>all around the world. So it transitions you from the

652
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>spirit to the physical. It transitions you from the physical

653
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to the spirit. You have the Milky Way River. My

654
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 1>point is water has always been seen as a gateway

655
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 1>or a portal to this world or to another world.

656
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And that is further confirmed by modern accounts of ships

657
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 1>and planes going missing in bodies of water that perhaps

658
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:58.119
<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about portals, it's not as crazy as

659
00:39:58.199 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>it sounds.

660
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just means something different than why people take

661
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 2>it to actually mean, you know, water being a portal,

662
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 2>water having memory, water, you know, like Brustole said, flow

663
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 2>like water.

664
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>You know what that was? It was it Pirates of

665
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the Caribbean where they had to flip the ship upside

666
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>down in order to get into the other world. I

667
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.320
<v Speaker 1>think that was Pirates of the Caribbean.

668
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I only saw the first Pirates of the Caribbean. I

669
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.079
<v Speaker 2>didn't watch any of the ones after that, and I

670
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:35.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't even really want to watch the first minute. I

671
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.760
<v Speaker 2>never liked those movies. I thought they were always garbage.

672
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm pretty sure I don't remember it. It's been

673
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>so long since I saw it. I'm pretty sure there

674
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>was a If anybody remembers it, that's just a good

675
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>example of what I'm thinking about. I think in order

676
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to get into the other world, they had to like

677
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 1>flip the boat upside down right at sunrise, and then

678
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it flipped them right side up, and the upside down

679
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>stranger things like world. So they use the water as

680
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>a portal because when you go below the surface, it

681
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>does because another world. Our oceans are a completely different world,

682
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 1>an alien world. That's probably another idea where the portal

683
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 1>comes from.

684
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Or you got to, you know, find the secret entrance

685
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:18.079
<v Speaker 2>into Mount Shasta in California, and then you can visit

686
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>the Atlantian beans inside of Mount Shasta where they'll show

687
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 2>you a whole new world. You know, we got the

688
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 2>enter Earth people, We got the people, the Atlanteans and

689
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.440
<v Speaker 2>lame Arias living inside of Mount Shasta. We also have

690
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:39.079
<v Speaker 2>the Atlantean tip As, the pyramid in in the off

691
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.679
<v Speaker 2>the coast of Florida. Atlantis is apparently everywhere, dude, they

692
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 2>gets They've spread it out all over the world.

693
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Planet Atlantis. It's yes, it's everywhere. It's Antarctica, it's or Triangle,

694
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it's in Alaska, it's all over the place. You forgot

695
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 1>about Jimmy's Malibu base that he made up for his

696
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 1>first couple of months on coast to coast. Got about that?

697
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that ancient Atlantis too?

698
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing it was ancient Atlantis Malibu Alien UFO base

699
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>right in his backyard.

700
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I think we should be looking more ato like the

701
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 2>North Pole. Everyone's like all concentrated on like the South Pole,

702
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 2>and like Antarctica that fuels all these conspiracies and everything like,

703
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:27.400
<v Speaker 2>which would be a perfect you know, misdirection if you're

704
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 2>if things were actually happening up into the North.

705
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Pole, I would I would think that it's hard enough

706
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 1>on land, even with modern technology, we're still discovering recently,

707
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:43.679
<v Speaker 1>we're still discovering new cities in the Amazon completely buried

708
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>by jungle. That's on land. I mean, imagine what's buried

709
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 1>by like ocean sediment on top of the water, like

710
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 1>well underneath, but on top of all the water on

711
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>top of it, it's like really hard. It's hard enough

712
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.199
<v Speaker 1>to do land archaeology, especially in places that are like

713
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the Amazon. It's hard enough to do it because you

714
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 1>got to get the funding for it, you got to

715
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 1>get permission from the governments to do it. It's a

716
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>long process to get that. But to do underwater archaeology,

717
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that's that's I mean, there's hardly any under underwater archaeology

718
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>going on. So anything that is from that remote of

719
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 1>a period, if there's any evidence of it on this planet,

720
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 1>and there probably is, it's probably buried in the ocean.

721
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, sea levels have risen so much and of

722
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>course Atlantis quote unquote sank, so it's probably buried underneath

723
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 1>the ocean somewhere. It might not even be a land

724
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>mass that's above water in any way, shape or form. Today.

725
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Ryan that there are ancient maps that

726
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 2>show that everything is connected due there's like land bridges

727
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:45.559
<v Speaker 2>that you know, connect to all of the different lands

728
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and these you know, big areas, and then some sort

729
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 2>of giant natural disaster happened that split apart all the

730
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>lands and that's how we get you know, the United States.

731
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And have you been listening to Jason Bershers.

732
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I yes, yes, I have, yes, I have.

733
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:11.599
<v Speaker 1>This map here is Atlantis.

734
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there are old there are some old maps.

735
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 2>But again, how did they do these maps? Like how

736
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>did they you know, because a lot of maps, to

737
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.880
<v Speaker 2>get accurate depictions, you have to have some sort of

738
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 2>aerial view born Yeah, you know, like back then they

739
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>were just guessing. You know, someone went and discovered some

740
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 2>land and then they came back and tried to draw

741
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 2>it based off of their memory and what they saw

742
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 2>on land. You know, like those maps are not verifiable,

743
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.599
<v Speaker 2>like they're not accurate. They can't be accurate.

744
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean there are, of course, the ones that are

745
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 1>very well talked about, like the Orneus map, the Phineas map,

746
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 1>the Perry Reeves map, and those are much more accurate

747
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.079
<v Speaker 1>because they're supposedly based on older source maps. So I'd

748
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.639
<v Speaker 1>say a lot of the more modern not modern contemporary,

749
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>but more modern stuff than the ancient stuff is not accurate.

750
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.480
<v Speaker 1>But when you can look at some of these other

751
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>maps that have been found, they seem to be much

752
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:20.679
<v Speaker 1>more accurate, even though they're older than some of the

753
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 1>new things. So I mean, I don't know how it

754
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>would have been done, but somebody. This is obviously a

755
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 1>big debate. Somebody somewhere would have had to have had

756
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>very accurate knowledge of how I mean, even Antarctica. There's

757
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>maps of Antarctica without ice, and it's very accurate to

758
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>modern investigations of the land of Antarctica without the ice.

759
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 1>So there's something somewhere in our history that's missing, and

760
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 1>it's probably the similar kind of a thing, whether it's

761
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Atlantis or these missing missing people planes and boats. Like,

762
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 1>we obviously don't know everything, and I think hiding from

763
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.199
<v Speaker 1>these anomalies and these mysteries isn't going to isn't going

764
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to help us any just hurts us in the end.

765
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>But it also allows for kind of the stuff that

766
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 1>you're joking about with, right, you joke about I mean

767
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 1>earlier you were joking about Atlantis and Mount Shasta and

768
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I mean, it allows people to make

769
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:17.320
<v Speaker 1>outrageous claims because nobody really knows, and most of the

770
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 1>people that could study this don't want to or they

771
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 1>think it's a joke, and so that leaves it up

772
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.119
<v Speaker 1>to the average person who just wants to learn about

773
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.360
<v Speaker 1>something mysterious and interesting, and they're usually going to of

774
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>course learn nothing but nonsense from people that just use

775
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 1>whatever the buzzword of the day is and just tell lies.

776
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But that does a disservice.

777
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, since we're you know, and this is relating. If

778
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.800
<v Speaker 2>people think that we're kind of getting off topic, I

779
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 2>don't think that we are, because you know, we're talking

780
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 2>about ships, we're talking about planes and stuff like that.

781
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, you have the what's his name

782
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:59.159
<v Speaker 2>that went to Antarctica? Not word adn'tal Bird. Yes, it's

783
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 2>not to call him Robert C. Bird. My I've been.

784
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I've done that before, so it's understandable.

785
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I've done that actually a couple of times. I've been

786
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Robert Sea Bird. But now he's from West Virginia. That's

787
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Rover Sea Bird walks and dams. But you know, you

788
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:21.039
<v Speaker 2>got Admiral Bird that you know, which is also involved

789
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:26.320
<v Speaker 2>with another aircraft and like a naval fleet and Operation

790
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:30.159
<v Speaker 2>high Jump, and him supposedly going into the inner Earth

791
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.679
<v Speaker 2>and meeting these beans, which I think is a completely

792
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>fake and fabricated, made up story that was forged in

793
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 2>his diaries. And but that brings in the question is

794
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think I've ever gotten your opinion or

795
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on this before Ryan is like, do you

796
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 2>think that there's like extra land out there, like areas

797
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:03.239
<v Speaker 2>of the world that we haven't discovered yet.

798
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.719
<v Speaker 1>You mean, something kind of like the Lost World.

799
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe something that is that we just don't know,

800
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, other just like you know, back in the

801
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 2>day before you know, North America was supposedly discovered, you know,

802
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.599
<v Speaker 2>people in Europe thought that that's probably all that there was.

803
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I think, I don't think that it's out of the

804
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:37.559
<v Speaker 2>realm of possibility that and that was just like what

805
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty three hundred years ago, not very

806
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.199
<v Speaker 2>long ago at all.

807
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, I mean, but that was also the

808
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 1>average person too, because if you go if you went

809
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 1>back to what the thirteen hundreds, about one hundred or

810
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>so years before Columbus, I mean, the Vikings reportedly made

811
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:02.519
<v Speaker 1>it to North America and routinely traveled here, you know,

812
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.559
<v Speaker 1>the Knights Templar reportedly traveled here. Columbus was married into

813
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:10.599
<v Speaker 1>a Templar family, like there's probably and reportedly he had

814
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:12.800
<v Speaker 1>access of course to the Templar Mass because of that,

815
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:16.039
<v Speaker 1>and they had a very vast understanding of land masses

816
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and where things were located, and there was already a

817
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>myth about this land to the west of Europe. I

818
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 1>think they called it in America or something. It was French.

819
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So like there was already knowledge of this, but the

820
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>average person didn't know that. Like the common knowledge was

821
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that there was nothing else perhaps, but I would say

822
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>people that had much more I don't know what word

823
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 1>I would choose. Let's say they were initiated to certain orders.

824
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>There was certainly a secret knowledge that was kept away

825
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 1>from the average person, and I don't think that it's

826
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:49.719
<v Speaker 1>any different today. I don't necessarily think that there's maybe

827
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a giant land mass, but even just you know, basic

828
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, random news stories I've read. I mean, there's

829
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.679
<v Speaker 1>little islands that pop up out of nowhere and then

830
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 1>vanish out of nowhere to some of them small, some

831
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<v Speaker 1>of them a little bit larger. I mean that happens

832
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<v Speaker 1>all the time in heavily volcanic areas, right, they pop up,

833
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<v Speaker 1>there's an island suddenly, and then they disappear, which also

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<v Speaker 1>could be the basis. Have you ever heard of High Brazil. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to save that for the next hour, but

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<v Speaker 1>High Brazil is kind of like a ghost island, and

837
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<v Speaker 1>it appeared every so often off the coast of I

838
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<v Speaker 1>believe it was Ireland and it was this big mystery

839
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<v Speaker 1>and it would appear and then disappear, and that could

840
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<v Speaker 1>have been a very real island appearing in disappearing for

841
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<v Speaker 1>various different reasons. There's just there's so much to unpack here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to hold that thought. We have Rider Lee

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<v Speaker 1>with us writer. Tell people very quickly where they can

844
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<v Speaker 1>find you.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find me Raised by a Giants on YouTube

846
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<v Speaker 2>and Indy and all podcast platforms. Thanks for listening, guys,

847
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<v Speaker 2>got another hour to go, babies, Strap.

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<v Speaker 1>In, Yes, strap in right here on the Secret Teachings.

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<v Speaker 1>or not I can pay the bills for this show,

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<v Speaker 1>which isn't even a lot. So thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for supporting us in the ways that you do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to hold on just for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Three minutes of break, we'll be right back, So don't

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<v Speaker 1>go too far from your phone, computer, from your radio,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you're listening. We'll be right back with Ryder Lee again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Ryan Gable here on the Secret Teachings. Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Secret Teachings Radio. I'm your host,

868
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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Gable. The website www dot Secret Teachings Info, the

869
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<v Speaker 1>email tst Radio at ProtonMail dot com. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for tuning in tonight, whether you're on Ground zero

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<v Speaker 1>dot info, spreaker Apple, anywhere you're listening. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for giving your time and your energy to this show.

874
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<v Speaker 1>I put a lot of effort and energy into this

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<v Speaker 1>and intentional intent and intentionally I don't want to waste

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<v Speaker 1>that time and that energy, and I really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>giving me that time and energy because it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of us feel like we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time and energy. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to this it's very humbling. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said earlier, this is a pre recorded show.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be pre recorded all week because I'm out of town,

883
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<v Speaker 1>and next week will also be brand new. It won't

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<v Speaker 1>be pre recorded like this, but next week will be

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<v Speaker 1>brand new. I'll be on the road this week. I

886
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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get at least a week vacation, so I

887
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<v Speaker 1>recorded these shows ahead of time. We have Ryder Lee,

888
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a good friend of ours, a good friend of mine,

889
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and a fellow radio podcast host, and he does Raised

890
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<v Speaker 1>by Giants on YouTube. You can find him Raised by

891
00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Giants on YouTube that's Raised by Giants. A lot of

892
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 1>you already know who he is. We'll be going back

893
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<v Speaker 1>to writer in here in just a minute or two.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the breakthough, I brought up something called high Brazil.

895
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<v Speaker 1>If you want to read about hy Brazil, it is

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00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 1>hy dash brsi l. It is a supernatural island, and

897
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<v Speaker 1>you can read about this on the Library of Congress website.

898
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<v Speaker 1>The name high Brazil originated from Celtic mythology. According to

899
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<v Speaker 1>Irish folklore, an island named hy Brazil was visible from

900
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<v Speaker 1>the west coast of ireland for only one day every

901
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 1>seven years. The rest of the time it was obscured

902
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:52.079
<v Speaker 1>by fog. The island had many variant names. Some examples

903
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:58.320
<v Speaker 1>included High Brazil, Bresal Brazil, Obrasel, the Enchanted Island, and

904
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.639
<v Speaker 1>the Isle of the Blessed. Brazil Island was shown on

905
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:05.920
<v Speaker 1>maps of the Atlantic Ocean for centuries. An island named

906
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Brasil or Brachil was first shown on a Protolon chart

907
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:18.639
<v Speaker 1>by major Kin photographer Angelino Dulkert in thirteen twenty five.

908
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Venetian photographer Andreo Bianco placed an island named Insula de

909
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Brazil on a chart in fourteen thirty six. Historians believe

910
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that map makers placed the phantom island on their charts

911
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.519
<v Speaker 1>after hearing rumors about the existence of High Brazil. Many

912
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.519
<v Speaker 1>expeditions were launched to try to find the island. Although

913
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 1>it was never found, Brazil Island continued to appear on

914
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 1>maps until eighteen seventy three, when it was shown for

915
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the last time on a British Admiralty chart. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost island for you, or a phantom island, sort

917
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 1>of in league with our phantom ships and phantom planes

918
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:03.519
<v Speaker 1>and our triangles from Bermuda to Japan, to Alaska, to

919
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the Great Lakes and elsewhere in the world. A lot

920
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.199
<v Speaker 1>of places that are maybe Bermuda triangles, if you will,

921
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<v Speaker 1>just which is kind of a catch all for these

922
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>types of mysterious anomalists areas. But any other Bermuda triangle

923
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<v Speaker 1>might not really be a Bermuda triangle. It might just

924
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.440
<v Speaker 1>be a random stretch of ocean or a random stretch

925
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.559
<v Speaker 1>of land, or a random forest, and we don't really

926
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:31.639
<v Speaker 1>classify it as an area with anomalies. It becomes an

927
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.920
<v Speaker 1>anomalous area when more than a handful of planes or

928
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:38.159
<v Speaker 1>boats go missing and there's a tension brought to it.

929
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as Rider was saying earlier, it seems like

930
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:45.760
<v Speaker 1>there's more boats that gone missing in the Great Lakes

931
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.440
<v Speaker 1>than the Bermuda Triangle. Unless you're kind of a nerd

932
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<v Speaker 1>like I am, or a nerd like Rider is, you

933
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 1>probably don't know that. But everybody knows Bermuda Triangle. It's

934
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:57.800
<v Speaker 1>another one of those things, kind of like in eufology,

935
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.280
<v Speaker 1>where everybody knows UFOs and little green men, but they

936
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:04.280
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily know anything about the connections that that has.

937
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Two things like the fairy lore or basic human psychology

938
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<v Speaker 1>and the little kind of fetuslike creature that we see

939
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 1>as an unconscious our representation of our unconscious self and

940
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 1>unfulfilled desires. There's always another way to look at it,

941
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and there's always a popular term and a popular explanation,

942
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.519
<v Speaker 1>and then there's a scientific explanation, or they just ignore

943
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:30.119
<v Speaker 1>it completely, and then there's usually an infinite number of

944
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<v Speaker 1>other ways to look at the subject. So we are

945
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:36.119
<v Speaker 1>looking at the Bermuda Triangle tonight. And I did a

946
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 1>show on I think when was that, like a month

947
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and a half ago, called a culta Marina Maria the Giant.

948
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<v Speaker 1>Like our oceans are so vast. We don't know anything

949
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>about our oceans, virtually nothing. We've explored maybe five percent.

950
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I even read this. This is like official mainline government information.

951
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:56.559
<v Speaker 1>I forget where I read it. I want to say

952
00:56:56.559 --> 00:57:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it was on there's some federal website. But we don't

953
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.960
<v Speaker 1>even know more than about fifty percent, not of oceans,

954
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 1>but of like lakes. In the United States, we've only

955
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 1>explained forty five percent of lakes of lakes, not oceans.

956
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Had we haven't even explored half of the lakes in

957
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.000
<v Speaker 1>our country. This is just in the us. Now you

958
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>think about the locks and the Lochness Monster, and it

959
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.079
<v Speaker 1>might not be so crazy to think that those locks

960
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.119
<v Speaker 1>are connected, and then there might be prehistoric creatures living

961
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>in them. We still find prehistoric creatures living. We find

962
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:38.239
<v Speaker 1>evidence of giant, enormous creatures in the ocean that wash

963
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.159
<v Speaker 1>up on shore. We find evidence of strange creatures we

964
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 1>thought were extinct. Turns out they're not extinct. I mean,

965
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.079
<v Speaker 1>all these terms are based on how we observe the world.

966
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Like if we are our customed to seeing you know,

967
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:54.639
<v Speaker 1>animal a in this area of a forest, and then

968
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.719
<v Speaker 1>one year after we randomly started observing it, one year

969
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.199
<v Speaker 1>we just don't see it. We say, this is actually

970
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.039
<v Speaker 1>how they define extinction. We say, oh, must win extinct.

971
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:08.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how arrogant and dumb is that? I mean,

972
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:13.639
<v Speaker 1>it's ridiculous. It's actually like, very unscientific. This creature could

973
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:16.360
<v Speaker 1>have lived there for a thousand years. We start observing it,

974
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:18.199
<v Speaker 1>we look at it for twenty and then one year

975
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>we don't see it. Oh, it must have gone extinct. No,

976
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it went extinct. There are plenty of

977
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 1>animals we think are extinct and are not extinct, And

978
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.599
<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of animals that go extinct. There's just

979
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:31.519
<v Speaker 1>so much mystery to the world, and a lot of

980
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the reason I think that we have a hard time

981
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:38.599
<v Speaker 1>trying to describe and define that mystery is because we

982
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 1>want a very cookie cutter, simple explanation. It's either I'm

983
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a scientist. That's not true, there's no possible way that's true,

984
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and we ignore it, or we just believe that everything

985
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.679
<v Speaker 1>is aliens, or we believe everything we see on TikTok.

986
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>And if anybody tries to write a book, or anybody

987
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:02.599
<v Speaker 1>tries to really investigate it, sure they might get a

988
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>good following, and people might be interested, and you might

989
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 1>have heard an interview or two, or they might make

990
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:11.039
<v Speaker 1>a name for themselves, but usually they're not the ones

991
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:15.440
<v Speaker 1>that influences the culture. It's the nonsense or the denial

992
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of any extraordinary possibility. So back to Rider Lee, our guest,

993
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:22.960
<v Speaker 1>a good friend of mine, again raised by giants, rid

994
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the Bermuda Triangle, the Alaskan Triangle, all of these other

995
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:30.199
<v Speaker 1>triangles and anomalous areas we also had in the Bermuda Triangle.

996
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 1>The first boat that went missing officially was a military vessel,

997
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and we had those planes about three decades later, Go

998
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Missing Flight nineteen. It was a series of bombers. You know,

999
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the older technology in those days, nothing

1000
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.119
<v Speaker 1>like we have today, so that could contribute to it

1001
00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 1>as well. Rogue waves, storms, electrical storms. I mean, there

1002
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:56.440
<v Speaker 1>are so many different possibilities. And then you look at

1003
00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:59.639
<v Speaker 1>land and forests where things go people go missing. That

1004
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>might be a different situation. It's not all people that

1005
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>just lose their way in the forest. There's probably some

1006
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:10.280
<v Speaker 1>other explanation. But this stuff is as mystical and supernatural

1007
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:12.519
<v Speaker 1>today as it was a few hundred a few thousand

1008
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.880
<v Speaker 1>years ago. So it's really the definition of mystery. And

1009
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 1>we still don't know anything about that Malaysian flight, which

1010
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:19.760
<v Speaker 1>baffles me.

1011
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you're talking about lakes and stuff like that,

1012
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 2>which just triggered my mind. The Oscarville, Georgia. Are you

1013
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:36.159
<v Speaker 2>familiar with that story where they just pretty much buried

1014
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>an entire city underwater, which was a lake lanier in

1015
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:51.159
<v Speaker 2>oscar Vir. Oscarville, Georgia, has an entire city underneath it.

1016
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 1>It was like some sort of like African American community, right,

1017
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:54.920
<v Speaker 1>black community.

1018
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was an African American community which had approximately

1019
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:04.960
<v Speaker 2>eleven hundred people living in it, and supposedly they were

1020
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:07.760
<v Speaker 2>very peaceful people. They were just kind of doing their

1021
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:14.639
<v Speaker 2>work and all that. And then a lady got raped

1022
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:19.119
<v Speaker 2>at the area, and I believe that she was she

1023
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:24.239
<v Speaker 2>might have been, no, it was they attempted to rape

1024
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 2>her or they raped her. I'm not one hundred percent sure.

1025
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 2>It's hard for me to remember these things. But and

1026
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 2>they blamed it on the African American community that was

1027
01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:39.360
<v Speaker 2>in this other area, like right outside of this town,

1028
01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 2>and a huge conflict ensued, and then the the white

1029
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:48.800
<v Speaker 2>people went to them and was like, hey, you guys

1030
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:54.400
<v Speaker 2>gotta leave or whatever, and they made them swim across

1031
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:58.679
<v Speaker 2>this river or whatever, and a lot of them didn't

1032
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:03.519
<v Speaker 2>make it. But anyway, after it was all over and

1033
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:10.360
<v Speaker 2>sun done, they ended up building a dam on in

1034
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.679
<v Speaker 2>the area and then they just flooded the entire town

1035
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:18.639
<v Speaker 2>in water, which is so interesting. There's several lakes that

1036
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 2>are like that in the United States where you know

1037
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:28.039
<v Speaker 2>several there's places in Alabama, there's places in Arizona, Arkansas,

1038
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.880
<v Speaker 2>a large number in California, as if you in Colorado,

1039
01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:37.639
<v Speaker 2>some in Connecticut, if you in Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky,

1040
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 2>and it goes on and on and on where entire

1041
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:42.320
<v Speaker 2>cities are just buried under man made lakes.

1042
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And right those are man made lakes. This isn't even

1043
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:48.079
<v Speaker 1>a natural thing. This is something that man has engaged in.

1044
01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:52.119
<v Speaker 1>This isn't mother nature. There's reportedly, probably for more natural reasons,

1045
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.920
<v Speaker 1>reportedly the same thing in South America. And then I

1046
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:56.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you heard about this, but it's called

1047
01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:00.719
<v Speaker 1>the Lion City or she Chang in China, and it's

1048
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:04.320
<v Speaker 1>a city that's buried beneath about forty meters of water

1049
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 1>in the I don't know if I'm pronouncing this correctly.

1050
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't speak Chinese, but the Kwandao Lake, and that's

1051
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.280
<v Speaker 1>an eastern China. In two thousand and one, this was

1052
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:18.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty something years ago, they rediscovered what they called a

1053
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:22.519
<v Speaker 1>metropolis like it's big, and it was perfectly preserved by

1054
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the water, and they opened it back up or opened

1055
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.719
<v Speaker 1>it up to diving in like twenty seventeen. I don't

1056
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:33.840
<v Speaker 1>know for sure what the reason was that it was flooded.

1057
01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was I think I don't

1058
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:39.199
<v Speaker 1>think it was natural. I think that Chinese government flooded it.

1059
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Something to do with like a power plant or something

1060
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:44.880
<v Speaker 1>after the revolution because they were trying to get rid

1061
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:49.880
<v Speaker 1>of Chinese history. There's a beautiful, well preserved city under

1062
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:53.159
<v Speaker 1>forty meters of water in eastern China, and apparently I

1063
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that there were that many in the US.

1064
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:58.199
<v Speaker 1>There's even reportedly structures at the bottom of Lake Titdikaka,

1065
01:03:58.280 --> 01:03:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and at at the bottom of a lot of the

1066
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:03.639
<v Speaker 1>great lakes up north structures. So and that's just again

1067
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:07.199
<v Speaker 1>on the surface. You know, that's that's on land, if

1068
01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you will, It's not out in the oceans. Just I mean,

1069
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:12.480
<v Speaker 1>imagine what's out there under the oceans, just the first

1070
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:17.440
<v Speaker 1>few hundred feet of ocean rise. What that consumed at

1071
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the end of the last Ice Age.

1072
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we could do this in modern times. Imagine what's

1073
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 2>been done through history.

1074
01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Well it wasn't go Beckley Teppe buried not by water,

1075
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:30.960
<v Speaker 1>but that was intentionally buried.

1076
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I think Easter Island was also intentionally buried

1077
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:41.159
<v Speaker 2>as well. Those statues with the heads poking up out

1078
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 2>of them are like several feet tall.

1079
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember I remember being on radio when that story

1080
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:51.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of broke in the news. They're like, oh my god,

1081
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 1>they have bodies. They're they're gigantic, not just heads.

1082
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also during the break, I found I had

1083
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:09.239
<v Speaker 2>remembered this interesting thing that I had heard not too

1084
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:13.880
<v Speaker 2>long ago actually, and it's this story of the Eastern

1085
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Airlines flight four oh one, which you know is connected

1086
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:21.440
<v Speaker 2>to you know the theme of this show, the missing

1087
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:25.719
<v Speaker 2>aircraft and the missing ships and vessels and all that.

1088
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:30.239
<v Speaker 2>What was this one Eastern Airlines flight four oh one

1089
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:38.599
<v Speaker 2>which supposedly some kind of malfunction happened, And this also

1090
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:42.480
<v Speaker 2>crashed off of the in Florida as well, so it

1091
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:45.719
<v Speaker 2>is also kind of connected to the Bermuda triangle as well.

1092
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:49.119
<v Speaker 2>But it killed one hundred and one people. There were

1093
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:57.719
<v Speaker 2>some survivors of this event, but there the whole crew

1094
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:01.880
<v Speaker 2>ended up dying in this crash, and it was supposedly

1095
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:09.639
<v Speaker 2>one of the largest airline crash to like ever happened

1096
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:14.760
<v Speaker 2>in that time, with the most deaths. And what's interesting

1097
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 2>about it is after it crashed in Florida, they took

1098
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:25.519
<v Speaker 2>some of the parts from that aircraft and reused them

1099
01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:29.719
<v Speaker 2>for a different craft. They reused them for a Boeing

1100
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:35.559
<v Speaker 2>craft and then supposedly a lot of the flight crew

1101
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 2>and the captains were seeing this strange man on board

1102
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the craft all the time. They would see this apparition

1103
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of this man, his name was Don and they would

1104
01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:59.159
<v Speaker 2>see him wearing a pilot's uniform. One of the flight

1105
01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:05.360
<v Speaker 2>attendants said that it seemed like a person that was

1106
01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:10.239
<v Speaker 2>unresponsive and that was on the on that wasn't on

1107
01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:13.639
<v Speaker 2>the passenger list, but he was on board the craft.

1108
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:19.559
<v Speaker 2>And apparently this guy so wild with the sightings and

1109
01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:25.199
<v Speaker 2>passengers seeing this man, this strange apparition, and he was

1110
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:28.920
<v Speaker 2>even even mourned to the captain of the flight, like

1111
01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:33.079
<v Speaker 2>several times of like strange things that were going on

1112
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 2>with the craft, and that might have caused some weird

1113
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:42.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of catastrophe. One day in the cockpit where when

1114
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the captain was preparing for the flight, another pilot reportedly

1115
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:53.280
<v Speaker 2>heard loud knocks from under the floor beneath him, and

1116
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:59.280
<v Speaker 2>he opened the trap door and he saw Dawn looking

1117
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:01.199
<v Speaker 2>up at him, which was the captain of the flight

1118
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:04.519
<v Speaker 2>that went down in Florida, and then he just kind

1119
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:09.440
<v Speaker 2>of disappeared. And then the flight attendant went to look

1120
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:13.719
<v Speaker 2>in and reportedly, you found a problem within the craft

1121
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:16.960
<v Speaker 2>and he fixed it. What could have called a very

1122
01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:18.880
<v Speaker 2>serious accident.

1123
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:23.439
<v Speaker 1>It almost sounds a little bit like the point pleasant

1124
01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Mothman story and the idea that people have that Mothman

1125
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:28.319
<v Speaker 1>was sort of like an angel of death, like an

1126
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a portent or an omen that there was going to

1127
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.239
<v Speaker 1>be a disaster. You see these apparitions or these kind

1128
01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:37.439
<v Speaker 1>of ghost like figures. I remember now that you said

1129
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.159
<v Speaker 1>I remember that story because I think that some of

1130
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:42.319
<v Speaker 1>you said that they recycled the parts and they put

1131
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:45.039
<v Speaker 1>them in other planes, right, Yes, okay, I think that

1132
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember that story very very It's kind of like

1133
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 1>scrambled in my brain. I don't remember it too well,

1134
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:53.279
<v Speaker 1>but I remember reading or hearing about that, and they

1135
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:56.520
<v Speaker 1>said that there were actually sightings or ghost sidings on

1136
01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.479
<v Speaker 1>all the like all the planes that received pieces from

1137
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:02.800
<v Speaker 1>that plane. Yes, they were like haunted. And this was

1138
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 1>like across you know, these different planes people were seeing.

1139
01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like they would know that it

1140
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:13.279
<v Speaker 1>was manufactured with a piece from this plane that crashed, right,

1141
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:16.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not like people would have known that anyway, But

1142
01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:19.800
<v Speaker 1>people were seeing these across different planes that had the

1143
01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 1>parts from that crashed plane. That's a very bizarre story.

1144
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:27.720
<v Speaker 2>It's super bizarre, and the stories got so wild, and

1145
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:33.239
<v Speaker 2>so many reports of people seeing this captain of this

1146
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:39.479
<v Speaker 2>of the crash of the craft that crashed in Florida,

1147
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:43.119
<v Speaker 2>because they obviously, like some of them, knew him and

1148
01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:47.199
<v Speaker 2>knew what he looked like. He was a you know what,

1149
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:53.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of a popular captain within them the aircraft. And

1150
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:57.199
<v Speaker 2>it got so overwhelming that with all these reports of

1151
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:05.199
<v Speaker 2>people seeing this man, that they dismantled the reuse parts

1152
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:10.319
<v Speaker 2>of those aircraft and supposedly nobody the activity stopped.

1153
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 1>That is a true haunting. You don't think about planes

1154
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:19.319
<v Speaker 1>being haunted, houses being haunted, old buildings being haunted, but

1155
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:23.279
<v Speaker 1>not planes. Maybe maybe boats, but usually not planes. Well,

1156
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you telling me that story right before I'm

1157
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:29.319
<v Speaker 1>about to take to take off. That's it's great. I'll

1158
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:31.479
<v Speaker 1>be thinking of that in the air. I'll fly over

1159
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the ocean.

1160
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sir, maybe you'll see Don.

1161
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll see Don on the plane.

1162
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Don Man coming back to haunt you from the grave.

1163
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:44.560
<v Speaker 1>But it seems like that he was like a good.

1164
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Thing though that was happening, but it was kind of

1165
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:50.039
<v Speaker 2>throwing them off because it was kind of, you know,

1166
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:53.199
<v Speaker 2>scary at the same time. But I don't think anybody

1167
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:57.760
<v Speaker 2>reported that that he was, you know, aggressive toward them

1168
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:01.399
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. He was kind of there to like warn

1169
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:05.479
<v Speaker 2>them things about the aircraft. Are things that were that

1170
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:09.600
<v Speaker 2>was kind of going wrong, So that maybe what had

1171
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:16.239
<v Speaker 2>happened to his craft that crashed in Florida wouldn't happen

1172
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:17.439
<v Speaker 2>to any other craft.

1173
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of like I mean again, I think of Mothman.

1174
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:24.920
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like with Mothman. Some people think that

1175
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Mothman wasn't malevolent. Mothman was benevolent, not kind of like

1176
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:32.439
<v Speaker 1>a dark angel, but kind of like a light angel,

1177
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:35.239
<v Speaker 1>alerting or warning people to you know. The Silver Bridge

1178
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:39.199
<v Speaker 1>collapse just helped. Matter of how you, I guess how

1179
01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you perceive it.

1180
01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I have a different idea of what happened during that,

1181
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and I've talked about it on your.

1182
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Show before, we both especially being from.

1183
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:51.720
<v Speaker 2>There, and I think we talked about it in our

1184
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Cryptid Roads. Take Me Home, Shore, just.

1185
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Take Me Home. What a great name. I forget about that.

1186
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:02.239
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that it wasn't a warning, It

1187
01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:05.359
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a benevolent thing. I think that what happened was

1188
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:10.039
<v Speaker 2>is this thing too many people were seeing it. There's

1189
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:11.920
<v Speaker 2>too many police reports. I mean The Mothman is one

1190
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:16.840
<v Speaker 2>of the most documented cryptids in the history of cryptids

1191
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:21.640
<v Speaker 2>happening in a singular area. I mean, there are legitimately

1192
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:24.880
<v Speaker 2>police reports of it. You can see at the Mothman Museum.

1193
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.399
<v Speaker 1>There's so much less in West Virginia, Yeah, than any

1194
01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:29.399
<v Speaker 1>other crypti. The Bigfoot has nothing on.

1195
01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Mothman, absolutely not. There was several people like in the

1196
01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:41.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the dozens of people that have seen

1197
01:12:41.159 --> 01:12:43.439
<v Speaker 2>this creature in Point Pleasant, West Virginian and I think

1198
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:48.079
<v Speaker 2>that it was getting too popular, and uh, it was

1199
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:51.960
<v Speaker 2>really getting the community of Point Pleasant in kind of

1200
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.119
<v Speaker 2>like an uproar. You know, it was causing a lot

1201
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:58.840
<v Speaker 2>of disturbances within the small population there. Like there were

1202
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:01.199
<v Speaker 2>literally people that were going out into the T and

1203
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:06.760
<v Speaker 2>T area with freaking pitchforks and torches and stuff like

1204
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:13.439
<v Speaker 2>looking for this creature. It was becoming a news media sensation.

1205
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And then after that is when they get you know,

1206
01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:20.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the people that had first saw the

1207
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:25.439
<v Speaker 2>moth Man got visited by the Men in Black, and

1208
01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:28.199
<v Speaker 2>the men in Black basically came to them and was like, hey,

1209
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:32.159
<v Speaker 2>like you got to shut up about this, or you know,

1210
01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 2>something bad is going to happen, you know, stop talking

1211
01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:41.520
<v Speaker 2>about this or you know, basically like a threat pretty much.

1212
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:46.039
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't know what the threat was. And I

1213
01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:50.119
<v Speaker 2>don't think that many of them listen to those people,

1214
01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:52.680
<v Speaker 2>because you know, the people in you know, Point Pleasant

1215
01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:55.680
<v Speaker 2>are a different kind of breed of people, not so

1216
01:13:55.800 --> 01:14:03.319
<v Speaker 2>much now, but definitely you know, back then, and I

1217
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:08.560
<v Speaker 2>don't think they listened. And therefore they they collapsed the

1218
01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.680
<v Speaker 2>bridge on purpose. They took down the bridge on purpose,

1219
01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:17.600
<v Speaker 2>so to use that as a distraction to take the

1220
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:22.239
<v Speaker 2>military or take whoever out into the TNT area to

1221
01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:28.399
<v Speaker 2>take care of the Mothman, because there's nothing like tragedy

1222
01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:32.760
<v Speaker 2>to create a giant distraction. You know, if they would

1223
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:40.840
<v Speaker 2>have just rolled up in Point Pleasant in military vehicles

1224
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:43.199
<v Speaker 2>and craft and all that and go out to the

1225
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:45.760
<v Speaker 2>T and T area, people would be like, oh, well

1226
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:48.720
<v Speaker 2>this must be that's just like confirming it for people.

1227
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:51.800
<v Speaker 1>There was a military presence about two hours east though,

1228
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:55.319
<v Speaker 1>for the Braxton Monster, and that hardly anybody saw that.

1229
01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:58.439
<v Speaker 1>It had no reports like Mothman, only a handful of

1230
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:01.119
<v Speaker 1>people that saw it. There's a lot of myth around

1231
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:04.479
<v Speaker 1>that too, but the military reportedly showed up for that

1232
01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole different case. But it's just fascinating because

1233
01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it's so close to point pleasant and it's probably one

1234
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:14.119
<v Speaker 1>of the most iconic if you've ever seen a picture

1235
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of it from the newspaper, it's like one of the

1236
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:20.159
<v Speaker 1>most iconic cryptids. It's like machine mechanical. Some people say

1237
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 1>had like reptilian features or something. But yeah, so whether

1238
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:27.079
<v Speaker 1>it's a you know, im portent like in the case

1239
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:32.359
<v Speaker 1>of this dawn guy on the plane, like we're dealing

1240
01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:34.720
<v Speaker 1>with something that is a theory here, or something that's

1241
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:40.760
<v Speaker 1>ghost like, something that's beyond the physical realm, beyond the

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01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:44.840
<v Speaker 1>physical plane. And speaking of physical plane, they still can't

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01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:48.640
<v Speaker 1>find this MH three seventy. But I wanted to talk

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01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:50.960
<v Speaker 1>with you about this, writer, and we'll skip this final break.

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01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:52.600
<v Speaker 1>We'll just have a solid hour here. So we have

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01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:57.720
<v Speaker 1>about thirty five minutes left. I was looking about a

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01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:00.199
<v Speaker 1>month or two ago. Eight two months ago, I was

1248
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:02.920
<v Speaker 1>looking online for a show, looking for some stuff, and

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01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.439
<v Speaker 1>for some reason I got this series of articles and

1250
01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:10.479
<v Speaker 1>stuff for this image three seventy that Malaysian flight. I

1251
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:14.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've seen this, but there's new rumble

1252
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:18.039
<v Speaker 1>videos and YouTube videos and TikTok videos of people having

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01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:22.800
<v Speaker 1>found this plane, and then I was like, well, that's interesting.

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01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like a real news story. At

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01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:26.399
<v Speaker 1>first I thought it was, oh, they actually found the

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01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:29.800
<v Speaker 1>plane interesting, And then the more I looked at it,

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01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought, no, nobody found the plane. Someone's using AI

1258
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:37.720
<v Speaker 1>image generators to generate One of them actually had like

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01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a watermark on it to generate these fake images of

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01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the plane. So, I don't know, do you know much

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01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:47.119
<v Speaker 1>about the Malaysian plane that went missing and the different

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01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:49.319
<v Speaker 1>theories about why it went missing. I've got a list

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01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:52.039
<v Speaker 1>of five or so here from a magazine I could

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01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:54.079
<v Speaker 1>read off to you, But do you know anything about

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01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that or much about that?

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01:16:55.640 --> 01:17:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, supposedly there was this guy that was that found

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01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:06.960
<v Speaker 2>several pieces of the plane that has washed up in

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01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:11.159
<v Speaker 2>the ocean. I mean this was going on like almost

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01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:17.119
<v Speaker 2>immediately after it had crashed. It's all in the Netflix

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01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:22.520
<v Speaker 2>documentary on the topic where there's this. But the thing

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01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:24.680
<v Speaker 2>about it is is he just like kept going out

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01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:27.760
<v Speaker 2>there and finding pieces of this plane.

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01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Like everyone goes out to Roswell, they find a new

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01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:33.439
<v Speaker 1>piece of the UFO.

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01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:37.199
<v Speaker 2>That's right, Yeah, it's almost like that, Like I could

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01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:41.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe believe finding a few pieces every once in a while,

1277
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:44.600
<v Speaker 2>but it seemed like every time that this guy went

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01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:48.239
<v Speaker 2>out looking for this thing, he was finding something which

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01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:52.279
<v Speaker 2>is really unrealistic. So it might have been what you

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01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:56.439
<v Speaker 2>were seeing was and I don't doubt that some of

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01:17:56.479 --> 01:18:01.920
<v Speaker 2>them are AI generated photos, but some of the photos

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01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 2>that you could have seen could have been from that

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01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:10.720
<v Speaker 2>guy finding supposedly finding the wreckage of the craft.

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01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:14.680
<v Speaker 1>What I saw wasn't that. It was like very much

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01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:16.960
<v Speaker 1>clickbait garbage. But I hear what you're saying.

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01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:21.840
<v Speaker 2>But the Netflix documentary was really interesting on it, and

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01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:28.720
<v Speaker 2>because they they went deep into a bunch of different

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01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:32.680
<v Speaker 2>conspiracies on it, which what the one guy was saying

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01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:38.159
<v Speaker 2>made a lot of sense, and I was like, oh, okay,

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01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:41.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe they're this makes kind of a lot of sense here, like,

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01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.279
<v Speaker 2>but it's how you get roped in the conspiracy theories.

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01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:51.880
<v Speaker 2>As it was happening, I was realizing that they're trying

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01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:53.960
<v Speaker 2>to rope me into this whole thing. And then at

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01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:58.119
<v Speaker 2>the end of it, they basically are like, oh yeah,

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01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:01.000
<v Speaker 2>everything that we said before in the past three hours

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01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:07.560
<v Speaker 2>of this documentary is nonsense. Wa could do stock got me?

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01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 2>But it is very interesting in the Ashton Forbes video

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01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:20.920
<v Speaker 2>of this craft, I personally believed is nonsense. I think

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01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:23.319
<v Speaker 2>that it's I mean, there's so much proof that that

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01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:27.359
<v Speaker 2>whole thing is one from a video game, two from

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01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:34.039
<v Speaker 2>stock images and there. I think that it's a it's

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01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a fabrication. And I'm pretty sure it got put on

1303
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:44.520
<v Speaker 2>one of these chat room sites. Is where it was

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01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:48.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of first discovered, was on something like four Chan

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01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:54.239
<v Speaker 2>or these chat room sites. Where is where he got

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01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the originally got the footage of these weird orbs flying

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01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:00.159
<v Speaker 2>around the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of that video game stuff goin around

1309
01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:05.039
<v Speaker 1>is and it's like a contagion, right Linda Moulton Howe

1310
01:20:05.159 --> 01:20:08.520
<v Speaker 1>using Area fifty one, that old PlayStation game or her

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01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Gray Alien, and then CNN using Fallout for their putin

1312
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:16.079
<v Speaker 1>hacked the election through a Fallout terminal. There is a

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01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:18.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of that take video game thing, take video games

1314
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and turn it into something real.

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01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:25.199
<v Speaker 2>And I think the some news organizations even used some

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01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:31.640
<v Speaker 2>footage from one of the Assassin Creeds games as as

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01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:35.520
<v Speaker 2>establishing shots for their news broadcast.

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01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't I've never heard that, but that would not

1319
01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:40.760
<v Speaker 1>surprise me. I do know that there were some images

1320
01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:44.079
<v Speaker 1>and videos that were shared. I believe it was when

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01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:50.000
<v Speaker 1>we first heard about the current ongoing conflict between Israel

1322
01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and Palestine, and someone had said, I think it was

1323
01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that they all when they when there were those those

1324
01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:01.199
<v Speaker 1>drones fired into Israel, or the drones and then the rockets. Yes,

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01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:06.199
<v Speaker 1>it was supposedly, Yeah, there was a giant rocket attack

1326
01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and people were showing the videos on Twitter. Oh my god,

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01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:13.439
<v Speaker 1>look at these rockets there. It's basically the Holocaust. Even

1328
01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:16.439
<v Speaker 1>though most of them sputtered out, didn't make it to

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01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:18.000
<v Speaker 1>their target, and a lot of most of them were

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01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.960
<v Speaker 1>shot down, It's like, oh, it's the Holocaust. And then

1331
01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:24.439
<v Speaker 1>it turns out, no, it wasn't the Holocaust. Actually that

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01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:27.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Iran, and that wasn't even Israel. That was from

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01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a video game.

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01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:33.319
<v Speaker 2>All the one where all the destruction and all that

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01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:37.000
<v Speaker 2>would looked like a freaking explosion happened. Is that the

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01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:38.199
<v Speaker 2>video that you're talking about.

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01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:40.319
<v Speaker 1>There's several of them. I'm not sure if which one

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01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:42.640
<v Speaker 1>we're both referring to, but the one I'm referring to

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01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:44.119
<v Speaker 1>is from like a Call of Duty game.

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01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, I remember Alex Jones posting a video of whenever

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01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Iran supposedly launched the rockets into into Israel and it

1342
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:06.359
<v Speaker 2>looked like freaking doomsday, but obviously it was fake, you know,

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01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:08.840
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't. It didn't even cause that much destruction. I

1344
01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:12.920
<v Speaker 2>think they only one or two missiles actually hit the ground.

1345
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Most of them were shot down or they just

1346
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>they malfunctioned in the air, which.

1347
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Makes zero sense to do. I mean, why would you

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01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:28.720
<v Speaker 2>do a missile strike if you knew that that they

1349
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:30.119
<v Speaker 2>were all going to be shot down and that it

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01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:33.479
<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to do anything other than that it being theater.

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01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what it is. And they don't even need

1352
01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:38.039
<v Speaker 1>the fire missiles for it to be theater because they

1353
01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>can just take something from Call of Duty, right, the

1354
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>CNN can take something from Fallout. Apparently the news could

1355
01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:48.039
<v Speaker 1>take something from Assassin's Creed, And I mean that really

1356
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>is This is a whole another subject, but I should

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01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I should just note this. One of the biggest lies

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01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:56.039
<v Speaker 1>we've been told about those conflicts is that the Muslim

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01:22:56.079 --> 01:22:59.239
<v Speaker 1>world is going to wipe Israel off the map by

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01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:03.119
<v Speaker 1>detonating it atomic weapon, That they're going to shoot a

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01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:07.640
<v Speaker 1>nuclear missile at Israel. That is the most ridiculous thing

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01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that anybody could ever lie about. Because the Muslims see

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01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:16.199
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Land as holy. They're not going to drop

1364
01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:19.279
<v Speaker 1>an atomic bomb on the Holy Land or smuggle a

1365
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:22.279
<v Speaker 1>suitcase nuke into the country. That is total nonsense. And

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01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that we finally maybe sol evidence of that

1367
01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:26.439
<v Speaker 1>when the Muslims came to the defense of the Christians

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01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>at the opening ceremony of the Olympics. Meanwhile, the two

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01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:33.279
<v Speaker 1>people that openly mocked Jesus were both Jewish. A whole

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01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:35.920
<v Speaker 1>nother subject done shows on that in the last couple

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01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:36.319
<v Speaker 1>of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, what's so interesting about that whole thing was

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01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:45.319
<v Speaker 2>whenever i Ran launched those missiles at Israel, there were

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01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:53.600
<v Speaker 2>literally news reporters on the ground in Israel reporting on it. Like,

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01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:59.159
<v Speaker 2>if you're really in danger and you think that you're

1376
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:02.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be, you know, blown up by a missile

1377
01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:08.159
<v Speaker 2>strike from Iran, would you really be out on the

1378
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:12.359
<v Speaker 2>ground where and doing a news report while these missiles

1379
01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:17.520
<v Speaker 2>are like coming in? Same I wouldn't. I would be leaving,

1380
01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I would be gone. I'd be like, I don't care

1381
01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:22.119
<v Speaker 2>about any of this same thing. You don't care about

1382
01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>my job, I don't care about this freaking news broadcast

1383
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:28.079
<v Speaker 2>at all, like I'm worried for my life. I'm getting

1384
01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:28.560
<v Speaker 2>out of here.

1385
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's two other great examples of that, right in Kiev,

1386
01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>where they're like the whole city's in rubble, and then

1387
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:37.119
<v Speaker 1>you see videos of it people live stream from Kiev

1388
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and nothing's happening. People are nightclubs, everybody's partying, right or that.

1389
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Happened in Ukraine as well. That was the same thing

1390
01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>that we were getting from Ukraine when Russia was invading Ukraine,

1391
01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:53.479
<v Speaker 2>like all the videos online of like Ukraine, like nothing

1392
01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:54.159
<v Speaker 2>was going.

1393
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>On, and it was the same exact thing we saw

1394
01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>with a little different but same thing we saw with

1395
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>seeing Inn back the nineties. They're like, we're being attacked

1396
01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:04.479
<v Speaker 1>by rockets. They're coming in right now. In the green

1397
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>screen falls. They were recording that in Atlanta at their headquarters.

1398
01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>They weren't in the Middle East. It was it was

1399
01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>all fabricated.

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01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:18.520
<v Speaker 2>That reminds me of do you remember that that false

1401
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:24.399
<v Speaker 2>rocket missile alert that went out to.

1402
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember that, yep, And that actually was like

1403
01:25:29.319 --> 01:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the opening scene of American Horror Story, that new season

1404
01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that came out around that same time. But yes, I

1405
01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>remember that Yeah.

1406
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>American Horror Story Apocalypse. Yeah, that was. Uh, that just

1407
01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:43.079
<v Speaker 2>jumped into my mind when we were talking about this,

1408
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:48.439
<v Speaker 2>and then Hawaii gets.

1409
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:51.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, dude, they get dude.

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01:25:52.159 --> 01:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Yep, dude, people got so upset at that show. Dude. Like,

1411
01:25:58.159 --> 01:26:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I literally got so many comments on Apple podcast, like

1412
01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:09.239
<v Speaker 2>three or four different comments from people like all one

1413
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:13.760
<v Speaker 2>star reviews just based off of that show that we

1414
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:15.960
<v Speaker 2>did on Hawaii and the dews.

1415
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:18.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here's how it works. I sit here and I

1416
01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>read raytheon Lockheed Martin and Boeing's websites where they talk

1417
01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>about what a DW is. So I read their websites

1418
01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and then I post that with the show promo, and

1419
01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:32.039
<v Speaker 1>then I get printouts of it, and then I explain

1420
01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>to people, actually, there's dw's. They disable electronics, they shut

1421
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>down missiles, they use them at military bases, at airports.

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01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>And then I say, but I don't think that these

1423
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.239
<v Speaker 1>were used to start the fire. So you're saying they

1424
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>don't exist, Well, asshole, I just read from all three

1425
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>major defense contractor websites that they do exist. So you're

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01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>saying they don't exist because I didn't use them in Hawaii.

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01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:58.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like you cannot have a conversation. There's so many

1428
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Zealots online to believe dues. They're gonna believe dues writer.

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01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>They want to think that this Malaysian flight was found

1430
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>because of some Cgai videos and pictures. They're going to

1431
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:11.239
<v Speaker 1>believe that it was found because that that's what gets

1432
01:27:11.319 --> 01:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>hits and clicks. I mean, I could do a video

1433
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>where I have all the fancy graphics and say Hawaii

1434
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to go under the water in the next

1435
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>two years, and people would click on it. They would

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01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>love it. Hawaii is going to sink into the ocean.

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01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I had no idea. People don't want facts,

1438
01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>they want nonsense. I want garbage.

1439
01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't have explained it any better myself. That was

1440
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:40.479
<v Speaker 2>a perfect explanation of the community in a nutshell. I mean,

1441
01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>they want the clickbait nonsense that supports their fantasies and

1442
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>delusions of what's going on.

1443
01:27:52.600 --> 01:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>And what you said earlier, I forget exactly what you

1444
01:27:56.760 --> 01:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>were saying, but you said something earlier that made me

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01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:04.319
<v Speaker 1>think of Jason Bershears and maybe think of this whole

1446
01:28:04.359 --> 01:28:07.079
<v Speaker 1>history as fake thing, and it's you know, it's like

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01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>there are things about history that we don't know unless

1448
01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>we read very specific resources on or we read very

1449
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>specific authors on that period of history or that area

1450
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>of the world or whatever it might be. And every

1451
01:28:20.119 --> 01:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>time I pick up a new book about something like that,

1452
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I learned something new. But you get people like Bursher's

1453
01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:28.079
<v Speaker 1>and others kind of what you're referring to now, and

1454
01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>they pray and play on what you were also referring to.

1455
01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:36.199
<v Speaker 1>When you watch this Netflix documentary about this Malaysian flight

1456
01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:40.399
<v Speaker 1>where they're asking questions that seem reasonable or logical and

1457
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>making points that seem like they very well could be true,

1458
01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>but you don't have any of the context for it.

1459
01:28:47.159 --> 01:28:50.279
<v Speaker 1>So yes, it's easy for Jason Bersheer's to say that

1460
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>there's ancient maps and that there are ancient cities that

1461
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>are buried, Like, yeah, there are, as you pointed out,

1462
01:28:57.960 --> 01:29:00.279
<v Speaker 1>there's cities buried underwater in the United States that he's

1463
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>been into water in South America and China. Some are natural,

1464
01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>some are unnatural. Yeah, there are ancient maps that show

1465
01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>strange things. But then they position themselves like Brashers does,

1466
01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to be a guru and they have all the answers

1467
01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:18.039
<v Speaker 1>and they develop this cult following because of the algorithm.

1468
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:20.479
<v Speaker 1>And I can't help but think writer that this is

1469
01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:26.399
<v Speaker 1>nothing more than some kind of counterculture, counterintelligence sciop to

1470
01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>prevent people from truly investigating history. I think people get

1471
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:32.279
<v Speaker 1>too close to what's like with Mothman, too close to

1472
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:35.159
<v Speaker 1>what it actually is, and then the military comes in

1473
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and does what they need to do to get people

1474
01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:39.199
<v Speaker 1>to not look at the facts. And I think it's

1475
01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:41.119
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with history. People get too close to

1476
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the facts of history and someone comes in to distort

1477
01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:45.159
<v Speaker 1>their vision.

1478
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's exactly that same thing with the uphology

1479
01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>and UFO community. You know, when people start asking really

1480
01:29:54.479 --> 01:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>deep questions about the military or you know, what kind

1481
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:03.840
<v Speaker 2>of co does the military have, what kind of advanced

1482
01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:09.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, aerospace technology do we have, and what have

1483
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:11.720
<v Speaker 2>we been working on and how long have we had it?

1484
01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:16.479
<v Speaker 2>They always throw a wrench in that and bring it

1485
01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>back to aliens. Yes, yes, none of these people want

1486
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:26.279
<v Speaker 2>to comment on the advanced technology that the military or

1487
01:30:26.319 --> 01:30:30.359
<v Speaker 2>these organizations have. They want to keep roping you back

1488
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:38.600
<v Speaker 2>into aliens. It's a misdirection, it's a deception in that way,

1489
01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and no one will. I really think that the entire

1490
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:47.399
<v Speaker 2>community is really like this when it comes to every topic.

1491
01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not just uphology, it's not just you know, each

1492
01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>in history. It's just like with everything, you know. We

1493
01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:59.479
<v Speaker 2>really come to this realization here recently, dude, that it's

1494
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:06.199
<v Speaker 2>just the alternative media, regardless of what topic you're on,

1495
01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>is the media for disillusioned group of people that no

1496
01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:20.159
<v Speaker 2>longer trust in the mainstream media.

1497
01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like people that can't afford doctor Pepper so

1498
01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>they buy doctor Thunder at Walmart.

1499
01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. That's exactly what it is. And that's not to

1500
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:32.319
<v Speaker 2>be disparaging or tell people, you know that don't look

1501
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:35.319
<v Speaker 2>into any of this stuff, or don't go there, or

1502
01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>don't do your own research. It's actually me saying look

1503
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>into it more, look into it deeper, Actually go beyond

1504
01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:48.319
<v Speaker 2>the surface level and go headfirst into the stuff and

1505
01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>research everything that has to do with the topic that

1506
01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:57.600
<v Speaker 2>you're interested in, and even the things that you disagree

1507
01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:01.119
<v Speaker 2>with or the things that you might not even believe

1508
01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:04.920
<v Speaker 2>is going on. Because there is a little bit of

1509
01:32:05.039 --> 01:32:08.119
<v Speaker 2>truth in a lot of this stuff. It's just that

1510
01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:11.760
<v Speaker 2>it's buried beneath a bunch of garbage and a bunch

1511
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:17.560
<v Speaker 2>of nonsense, and it's very difficult to decipher all that stuff,

1512
01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:22.119
<v Speaker 2>you know. And that's just what I've really discovered, is

1513
01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:27.039
<v Speaker 2>that that this community in every single topic possible. And

1514
01:32:27.079 --> 01:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>there's also been a switch that's happened within the community too,

1515
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:37.439
<v Speaker 2>where it's kind of gone really political, like it's not

1516
01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:44.039
<v Speaker 2>really about conspiracies anymore, it's not about really finding the truth.

1517
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:50.439
<v Speaker 2>It just made this switch to this political politicized.

1518
01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And Trump has angels protecting him and Jesus is in

1519
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:57.119
<v Speaker 1>the Oval office with him. It's like very supernatural political stuff.

1520
01:32:58.079 --> 01:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again that's not encouraging people from talking about

1521
01:33:01.960 --> 01:33:04.560
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Of course, you know, to talk about it

1522
01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>if that if that's what you want to talk about,

1523
01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>and if you have good information on it, then do it.

1524
01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:16.119
<v Speaker 2>But that's not what the community was based off of

1525
01:33:17.159 --> 01:33:23.920
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning. If anything, the community separated itself from

1526
01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:30.760
<v Speaker 2>anything political because they knew that the political landscape was

1527
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:35.159
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of nonsense garbage. And it's the same side

1528
01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:41.239
<v Speaker 2>of the same coin, right. The people that are in

1529
01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:48.479
<v Speaker 2>control are controlling both sides, and it's just gotten so

1530
01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>far out of hand. And we're seeing this mixture within

1531
01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the mainstream community and the conspiracy and the alternative community

1532
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:03.640
<v Speaker 2>and I really don't think that it's a good thing.

1533
01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that it's a bad thing because it's getting

1534
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>people so disillusioned with others within their circle, and it

1535
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:22.680
<v Speaker 2>seems like a just a giant plot to make people

1536
01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:26.319
<v Speaker 2>not trust one another. You know, don't trust your friends,

1537
01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:30.640
<v Speaker 2>don't trust your neighbors, don't trust your family, and of

1538
01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:36.159
<v Speaker 2>course don't trust strangers, and more importantly, don't trust the government.

1539
01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:43.039
<v Speaker 2>So therefore everything becomes fake. You know, nothing real happens anymore.

1540
01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>There's always this mysterious hand behind the scenes that has

1541
01:34:47.720 --> 01:34:51.199
<v Speaker 2>been orchestrating all of these events, and then none of

1542
01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:54.399
<v Speaker 2>it's real, none of it naturally happens, which is a

1543
01:34:54.560 --> 01:34:57.319
<v Speaker 2>very very dangerous path to be on. It. I mean,

1544
01:34:57.359 --> 01:34:59.760
<v Speaker 2>we've just seen that happen.

1545
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:03.399
<v Speaker 1>That's what you lose touch with reality. It's like with

1546
01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:06.479
<v Speaker 1>those fires, right, there's fires all the time. There are

1547
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:09.119
<v Speaker 1>thousands of fires all the time globally. You can look

1548
01:35:09.119 --> 01:35:11.840
<v Speaker 1>at federal data, fires burn less than they ever have.

1549
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Fire management's better, you know, alerts and awareness of where

1550
01:35:17.479 --> 01:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the fires are burning when they start, that's better, Like

1551
01:35:19.880 --> 01:35:23.439
<v Speaker 1>we react to them differently, and so a lot less acreage,

1552
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>about twenty million less acreage or more thirty forty million

1553
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:30.359
<v Speaker 1>even upwards, depending on the year, burns today less than

1554
01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:33.479
<v Speaker 1>what burn in the thirties. And that's just objective, you know,

1555
01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>federal factual forest data. But today it's either climate change

1556
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:43.079
<v Speaker 1>that starts all the fires or it's directed energy weapons.

1557
01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, remember I told you that we were talking

1558
01:35:45.399 --> 01:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>about the dwu's and Hawaii and someone said to me,

1559
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I thought, I did a really great show talking about

1560
01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:53.439
<v Speaker 1>the average of forest fires and how many acres are

1561
01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:55.479
<v Speaker 1>burned and how many are burning any given time, and

1562
01:35:55.520 --> 01:35:58.079
<v Speaker 1>we only pay attention to it when there's a neighborhood

1563
01:35:58.239 --> 01:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>in the path of the fire. If it burns out

1564
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the mid know, where nobody cares. It's all about perspective

1565
01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and context. And someone said to me, Brian, and there's

1566
01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>all those fires because they're testing the dws to start

1567
01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:13.039
<v Speaker 1>the fires remotely, and then they're using those tests to

1568
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>do the real burning down in Hawaii. And it's just like,

1569
01:36:16.399 --> 01:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, what reminds me of It's like that episode

1570
01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:19.039
<v Speaker 1>of King of the Hill, the first like one of

1571
01:36:19.079 --> 01:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the first episodes where the Nate You ever watched King

1572
01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:21.199
<v Speaker 1>of the Hill?

1573
01:36:22.479 --> 01:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>A few episodes, not too much into it, Like I

1574
01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>was in the Family Guy.

1575
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's it's a really I think you'd really like it.

1576
01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:31.079
<v Speaker 1>It's it's nothing like Family Guy. But it's a good show.

1577
01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>And the neighbors they're from Laos. They move in and

1578
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:37.479
<v Speaker 1>it's in Texas, and the neighbors say, we from Laos.

1579
01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:41.159
<v Speaker 1>It's a country in Southeast Asia. And Hank says, okay,

1580
01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:43.199
<v Speaker 1>so are you Chinese or Japanese? He said, no, we

1581
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>from Laos. It's like, okay, so are you Chinese or Japanese?

1582
01:36:48.279 --> 01:36:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Like he doesn't, doesn't. It's just like with dw's, right,

1583
01:36:51.399 --> 01:36:55.439
<v Speaker 1>nothing happens naturally. Yes, dw's exist, but I don't think

1584
01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:58.079
<v Speaker 1>they were used in Hawaii. Okay, so you don't think

1585
01:36:58.119 --> 01:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the dw's are real. It's just so it's the same

1586
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:03.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of a thing. It's so irritating and so frustrating

1587
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>because you like, I feel like sometimes I do a

1588
01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>really great show. I know Clyde feels like this. I

1589
01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>know you a lot of a lot of people feel

1590
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>like this. You do something that's unique, that's novel, that's different,

1591
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's the worst show downloads of the worst numbers

1592
01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that you've ever had. But if I talk about mall

1593
01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:24.159
<v Speaker 1>aliens through the roof because the algorithm promotes that that's

1594
01:37:24.199 --> 01:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>what people are looking for. It's just like it's entertainment,

1595
01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>but we've been conditioned to think that entertainment is actually

1596
01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>some alternative factual reality that we're if we believe in it,

1597
01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>we're resisting the liars in the mainstream media, when the

1598
01:37:38.079 --> 01:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>alternative media is just another version of the mainstream media.

1599
01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:44.039
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of this stuff has become a cult,

1600
01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like not ocult, but a cult. I mean, the Trump

1601
01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:50.199
<v Speaker 1>movement has become a cult. There's no doubt about that. Yeah,

1602
01:37:50.439 --> 01:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Democrats voice been a cult. The Trump movement has become

1603
01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:56.199
<v Speaker 1>a cult. I mean, like the real hardcore people have

1604
01:37:56.279 --> 01:37:59.039
<v Speaker 1>become a cult. A lot of things have become like

1605
01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>that because we're we're so like you said, disillusion. I

1606
01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:05.840
<v Speaker 1>don't trust seeing it in Fox. I don't trust the government. Okay,

1607
01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So who do you trust? Anybody who tells you what

1608
01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to hear? And guess who knows what you

1609
01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>want to hear? The government who knows you don't trust them,

1610
01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:14.760
<v Speaker 1>The intelligence agencies who know you don't trust them, so

1611
01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>they're going to tell you the opposite of what's true.

1612
01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:19.079
<v Speaker 1>They could even tell you the truth, and you'll say, no,

1613
01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:21.039
<v Speaker 1>that's not the truth because you said it was true.

1614
01:38:21.359 --> 01:38:23.479
<v Speaker 1>And the other movie I did tell you the truth, Well,

1615
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it because you told me.

1616
01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is exactly what's going on. And if you

1617
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think that the government is also in control of

1618
01:38:37.199 --> 01:38:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say. The government is a very

1619
01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>broad spectrum.

1620
01:38:41.079 --> 01:38:43.079
<v Speaker 1>If you don't think the deep state.

1621
01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:48.760
<v Speaker 2>The intelligence communities are also in charge of the alternative community,

1622
01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:50.399
<v Speaker 2>then you're highly.

1623
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Mistaken, very uninformed.

1624
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>You're wrong. They're in control of all of it. Because

1625
01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>that's how you control the persons of the people, is

1626
01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:05.479
<v Speaker 2>you control both sides. That's the only way that you

1627
01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:09.479
<v Speaker 2>can know the reaction of the people is if you

1628
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:14.800
<v Speaker 2>control all of the information. That's it.

1629
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:17.159
<v Speaker 1>It's also like a magic wand too, because you know,

1630
01:39:17.319 --> 01:39:19.720
<v Speaker 1>most people just learn what they learn in school and

1631
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:22.439
<v Speaker 1>that's it, and that's okay, that's fine, But when you

1632
01:39:22.520 --> 01:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>go any further than that, you know, every step I've

1633
01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:28.720
<v Speaker 1>taken forward in every subject over the last fifteen years,

1634
01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I learned something new every day. I'm always like blown

1635
01:39:31.720 --> 01:39:34.479
<v Speaker 1>away by it, things that I've never never imagined or

1636
01:39:34.479 --> 01:39:37.720
<v Speaker 1>never thought. And then when you present that to somebody

1637
01:39:37.760 --> 01:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>who has no clue because they've just worked in nine

1638
01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:42.079
<v Speaker 1>to five and all they know is what they learned

1639
01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>in high school and maybe a little bit of college.

1640
01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:47.079
<v Speaker 1>You present that to them, it blows their mind and

1641
01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:51.159
<v Speaker 1>it almost becomes kind of like a a there's like

1642
01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a cult like mentality that develops from that, because you

1643
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>almost become godlike. It's like giving a cell phone to

1644
01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>very primitive people in a jungle but don't even know

1645
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>how to use it, but you're a god to them.

1646
01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're getting somebody information. It's like, oh my god,

1647
01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the Germans at a proximity study of dropping a seventeen

1648
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:11.199
<v Speaker 1>kila ton nuclear weapon on Manhattan and that's the same

1649
01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>bomb that was dropped on Japan. That can't be true.

1650
01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. There's effidence of it in the National Archives,

1651
01:40:16.239 --> 01:40:18.720
<v Speaker 1>there's records of it, there's scans of the documents. It

1652
01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:21.479
<v Speaker 1>is real, Oh my god. And it blows your mind.

1653
01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:23.159
<v Speaker 1>It blew my mind too when I learned that. It

1654
01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:26.199
<v Speaker 1>blows your mind. And then it becomes like, you know,

1655
01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:30.199
<v Speaker 1>sufficiently advanced technology. It's indistinguishable from magic. I guess any

1656
01:40:30.680 --> 01:40:35.199
<v Speaker 1>sort of any sort of interesting historical facts that you

1657
01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:39.359
<v Speaker 1>don't learn in school, become indistinguishable from magic in a sense.

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01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then people will be like, oh, well, why

1659
01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:45.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't they teach us all this stuff in school? Why

1660
01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't they tell us all because you can't. It's impossible

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01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:54.760
<v Speaker 2>to fit all the things throughout history into the limited

1662
01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>amount of years that you're in school. I mean, that's

1663
01:40:57.560 --> 01:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>what we have the internet for. You know, we have

1664
01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:02.800
<v Speaker 2>all the information at our fingertips.

1665
01:41:03.439 --> 01:41:07.800
<v Speaker 3>We're able to just look at I mean, this is

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01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:14.279
<v Speaker 3>the most important time, I think for anyone in history.

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01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:20.079
<v Speaker 2>We've never had this level of information at our fingertips

1668
01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>ever in history. You can literally just speak into your

1669
01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:32.199
<v Speaker 2>freaking phone, dude, and you get all the information anything

1670
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:35.439
<v Speaker 2>that you want. I mean some things take more digging

1671
01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and to find more things, and like more reading, but

1672
01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>we have it all at our disposal. You know, we

1673
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:48.079
<v Speaker 2>no longer have to go to a library or reading

1674
01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:54.399
<v Speaker 2>through news articles. It's all online now. We all everyone

1675
01:41:54.520 --> 01:42:01.199
<v Speaker 2>has access to the exact same information they so choose to.

1676
01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Find it, even people that don't have a place to live.

1677
01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you see people on the streets have cell phones, smartphones.

1678
01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw a guy with an iPhone not necessarily new

1679
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:13.159
<v Speaker 1>and it was like an iPhone ten probably when I

1680
01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>was in Palm Springs, homeless guy on the side of

1681
01:42:14.920 --> 01:42:17.479
<v Speaker 1>the road with the shopping cart clearly has been living

1682
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:21.039
<v Speaker 1>on the street. He had a freaking iPhone. You know.

1683
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the nature of being poor in the United States

1684
01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:27.159
<v Speaker 1>top of everything else. So you can still access things

1685
01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like that unless you go to the library and access

1686
01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff even if you don't have it at home, and yes,

1687
01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you have access to it, you don't have to carry

1688
01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>books around. I mean a lot of people, you know,

1689
01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:38.039
<v Speaker 1>prefer digital reading anyway. You mean, you can get a

1690
01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>digital reader and download thousands of books to a thing

1691
01:42:40.680 --> 01:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>that's about the size of a magazine. It's like unlimited access.

1692
01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:47.159
<v Speaker 1>It's not just monks that can read and write and

1693
01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:51.399
<v Speaker 1>transcribe things. It's not just the priests. Everybody can do

1694
01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that today.

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01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I agree, And it's a very fascinating time. And I

1696
01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:01.840
<v Speaker 2>don't think the is definitely never experienced anything like this,

1697
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:06.159
<v Speaker 2>and the history of the world.

1698
01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:10.359
<v Speaker 1>It might be too much for people to deal with collectively.

1699
01:43:12.279 --> 01:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it could be, and in some cases

1700
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:19.479
<v Speaker 2>like information overload, but it's the same thing that the

1701
01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:23.199
<v Speaker 2>news media does to people. You know, they regurgitate the

1702
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>same information with a different headline three or four different

1703
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:30.479
<v Speaker 2>times a day, you know, and it's just hitting you

1704
01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:38.039
<v Speaker 2>with you know, constant sensory stimulation all the time. Twenty

1705
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:44.159
<v Speaker 2>four to seven was something different, and that jumbles up

1706
01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:48.680
<v Speaker 2>all the information in your head to where it's hard

1707
01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:52.720
<v Speaker 2>to realize where you even heard certain information from. And

1708
01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:55.439
<v Speaker 2>that's another problem within the community, Like people listen to

1709
01:43:56.119 --> 01:44:00.159
<v Speaker 2>so many different people one after the other and after

1710
01:44:00.279 --> 01:44:05.279
<v Speaker 2>the other, that they can't remember where they heard things from.

1711
01:44:05.319 --> 01:44:09.399
<v Speaker 2>And then they go out and regurt hate those things

1712
01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:13.079
<v Speaker 2>as if it's their own and that as if they

1713
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:18.359
<v Speaker 2>created it, and then it becomes this whole this snowball effect.

1714
01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:23.800
<v Speaker 2>And I really think that this merging of the alternative

1715
01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>community and the mainstream communities has been a decades long

1716
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>set up by the intelligence communities to disassemble and undermine society.

1717
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Free thought and any kind of any kind of investigation

1718
01:44:47.039 --> 01:44:50.800
<v Speaker 1>into official narratives or official stories. I mean, we've saw

1719
01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:53.119
<v Speaker 1>we've seen that and talked about it so many times.

1720
01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:57.039
<v Speaker 1>The Robertson report from the early fifties, just on ufology,

1721
01:44:57.600 --> 01:45:00.159
<v Speaker 1>that same model has been applied to virtually everything.

1722
01:45:02.039 --> 01:45:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Robertson Panel Report. Yeah, the the Project Blue Book.

1723
01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:10.560
<v Speaker 2>You have Project Sign. What was the other project before

1724
01:45:10.680 --> 01:45:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Project Sign? I think Sign was Grudge, Yes, Project.

1725
01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Grudge, not David Grush Grudge.

1726
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Grudge, Grush and Krush.

1727
01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>And rush to conclusions about things that we don't know.

1728
01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Keep you say those for super Fast.

1729
01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot we've talked about on the show tonight.

1730
01:45:35.479 --> 01:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>We started with me a triangle. We made our way here.

1731
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's all very much related. I hope that

1732
01:45:41.640 --> 01:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>people have enjoyed the show in general, but specifically little

1733
01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:48.479
<v Speaker 1>things that aren't well known, you know, like the you

1734
01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:51.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about that Eastern Airlines flight for zero one. I

1735
01:45:51.840 --> 01:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>forgot about that. And then there's other triangles like the

1736
01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Devil's Triangle off the coast of Japan. There's the Michigan Triangle.

1737
01:45:58.319 --> 01:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>There's the Alaskan triangle, which is that those are cases

1738
01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of you have oceans in the case of Japan, or seas.

1739
01:46:05.079 --> 01:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>You have the forest in the case of Alaska, and

1740
01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you have land also in the United States that has

1741
01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:15.359
<v Speaker 1>these vour Texas supposedly people go missing, things go missing,

1742
01:46:15.399 --> 01:46:17.479
<v Speaker 1>but in the Great Lakes, so you have water, you

1743
01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>have forests, you have oceans, you have seas where this

1744
01:46:19.600 --> 01:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>is happening. This is this is a global phenomenon. It's

1745
01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>happening all over the world, and it's involved the military

1746
01:46:25.600 --> 01:46:28.439
<v Speaker 1>too that have lost planes and have lost people and

1747
01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>have lost boats. Don't really have an answer for you.

1748
01:46:32.319 --> 01:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a solution to this. I don't think

1749
01:46:34.039 --> 01:46:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Rider does. But last few minutes we have a final

1750
01:46:37.199 --> 01:46:40.479
<v Speaker 1>closing commentary on Bermuda and anything else that you want

1751
01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to add, including I know you have this new movie

1752
01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>coming out you want to talk about that. We've got

1753
01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:45.079
<v Speaker 1>about three minutes.

1754
01:46:46.359 --> 01:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm well, first off, thanks for having me on.

1755
01:46:50.039 --> 01:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Really appreciate it. Always interesting conversation. I hope people really

1756
01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:57.479
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it. We're bringing the Bermuda Triangle back, babe. People

1757
01:46:57.479 --> 01:46:59.439
<v Speaker 2>are going to be talking about and now we're going

1758
01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:01.199
<v Speaker 2>to be talking about it again. And then we're going

1759
01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to create that eggrigre and something is going to go

1760
01:47:05.039 --> 01:47:08.640
<v Speaker 2>missing soon. Yeah, yeah, what's going to happen. We're going

1761
01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:12.039
<v Speaker 2>to have a new mystery of the Bermuda Triangle soon.

1762
01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I would hope that Jason Bashers would go missing. I'm

1763
01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.279
<v Speaker 1>tired of hearing about his crap every time he does something.

1764
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:20.399
<v Speaker 1>People I get calls people. Did you hear what Jason

1765
01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Bersheer said. I don't give a shit what Jason Scheer said.

1766
01:47:23.279 --> 01:47:26.199
<v Speaker 1>I listened to him. Well look at this map. It's like,

1767
01:47:26.239 --> 01:47:28.279
<v Speaker 1>shut the f up. I'm so tired of this garbage

1768
01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that's promoted by YouTube and your show doesn't get any promotion.

1769
01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't do it, and it's so discouraging. And like

1770
01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I've literally seen people that have had that's had a

1771
01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:42.640
<v Speaker 2>channel for half the amount of time that I've had

1772
01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:48.119
<v Speaker 2>a channel surpass me in views and subscribers, and they're

1773
01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:53.680
<v Speaker 2>just they're the same old type of channel that doesn't

1774
01:47:53.720 --> 01:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>do anything new, regurgitates old information, doesn't try and get

1775
01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.159
<v Speaker 2>to the bottom of anything, but they bring on on

1776
01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>all the people that brings that audience to that. Yeah,

1777
01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:07.359
<v Speaker 2>it's and I have never been discovered through a good

1778
01:48:07.520 --> 01:48:11.960
<v Speaker 2>YouTube search result. I'm on my soapboxer.

1779
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:15.199
<v Speaker 1>But it's like to tell U about the new movie.

1780
01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, a new movie, a clockwork Shining. I have been

1781
01:48:20.199 --> 01:48:23.920
<v Speaker 2>diligently working on it. I haven't done any shows for

1782
01:48:24.520 --> 01:48:27.199
<v Speaker 2>a while now, but I will be doing a few

1783
01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:30.840
<v Speaker 2>shows here soon. I've just been trying to get this

1784
01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:35.399
<v Speaker 2>documentary done because it's very difficulty and it's very tedious

1785
01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:38.479
<v Speaker 2>and to make sure that everything is perfect and everything

1786
01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:44.399
<v Speaker 2>is right, and it's a really big topic and we

1787
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:48.960
<v Speaker 2>cover a lot of information and Jay Weiner is in it.

1788
01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:55.520
<v Speaker 2>It is by Qubrick Productions, and we also have Mark

1789
01:48:55.600 --> 01:49:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Dovlin in the documentary. We also have uh Kathie, Brian

1790
01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Walter Bosley and Joe Atwell. And this will be out

1791
01:49:05.079 --> 01:49:09.119
<v Speaker 2>hopefully by the middle of September. And if no one

1792
01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:12.520
<v Speaker 2>wants to support anything else I do. Whenever this documentary

1793
01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:16.119
<v Speaker 2>comes out, please support this and watch it. It will

1794
01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:19.399
<v Speaker 2>be on Amazon Prime. And thanks for listening everyone, and

1795
01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:21.520
<v Speaker 2>thanks so much for having me on again. Ryan really

1796
01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:22.199
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it.

1797
01:49:22.479 --> 01:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got it. It's probably going to be what

1798
01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of dollars, just like JFKX.

1799
01:49:27.319 --> 01:49:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Not one hundred percent sure. I've put a lot of

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01:49:29.079 --> 01:49:31.680
<v Speaker 2>work into this thing, dude, Like I've I've been working

1801
01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:36.039
<v Speaker 2>on it for like five months on and off, so

1802
01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>it's taken a lot of my time. So probably it'll

1803
01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:44.720
<v Speaker 2>it'll be more than JFKX, but it won't be that

1804
01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:49.119
<v Speaker 2>much more. But really quickly, it's it's about MK Ultra,

1805
01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:52.199
<v Speaker 2>It's about the shining it's about Stanley Kubrik. It's about

1806
01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the intelligence agencies infiltration into the music industry and the

1807
01:49:56.840 --> 01:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>film industry. So it's going to be U.

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01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I like excellent stuff. Cool. Well, I really appreciate you

1809
01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>coming on the show. Thank you so much. Writer, Raised

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01:50:06.039 --> 01:50:08.199
<v Speaker 1>by Giants YouTube correct, Yes.

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01:50:08.079 --> 01:50:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Sir, Raised by giants on YouTube and any and all

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01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:11.479
<v Speaker 2>podcast platforms.

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01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Alrighty well, I'll talk to you sometime soon. Great show.

1814
01:50:17.159 --> 01:50:22.119
<v Speaker 1>And I hope that anybody listening hasn't heard Writer. Go

1815
01:50:22.199 --> 01:50:25.079
<v Speaker 1>and listen to Writer's show on YouTube. He has video.

1816
01:50:25.840 --> 01:50:30.359
<v Speaker 1>He's less antiquated than I am. I just do audio,

1817
01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>although we do do shows together sometimes and I do

1818
01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>video with him. So anyway, writerly on his channel Raised

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01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:40.439
<v Speaker 1>by Giants. This is the Secret Teachings TRIPLEW dot The

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01:50:44.399 --> 01:50:47.760
<v Speaker 1>find the archive there. You can also find my books there.

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01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Grab a book, listen to the free archive. That's really

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01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:53.600
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01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:57.560
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01:51:17.760 --> 01:51:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you so much for tuning in. Stay safe, stay informed,

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01:51:19.800 --> 01:51:23.079
<v Speaker 1>stay healthy, and I will talk to you on the

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01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:26.520
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