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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to take part in the show? Call up? Steve

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<v Speaker 1>now went five two oh four one six seventy four.

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<v Speaker 2>Ford, Hey, welcome back to my in the ball here

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, You're Blake, and

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<v Speaker 2>now we have Ray with breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is I on the ball breaking news on

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<v Speaker 2>You're still shocked by what t wants Hi about his Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean unbelievable rights. Right, It's the least the least

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<v Speaker 2>people you expect sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Amy, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>Starting off with what we've been talking about already, Nico

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<v Speaker 4>with the tough last name, Uh talking to Earth you still, yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Talking to U. C. L A.

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<v Speaker 4>After the whole Tennessee thing that went down over the

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<v Speaker 4>past weekend, I thought there was going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to us. He was gonna be in there too,

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't think they have like a definitive starter

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, Lincoln Riley probably needs to get things

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<v Speaker 4>going after.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine yourself, even Blake, I'm not gonna ask

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<v Speaker 2>you what you signed for if you signed for anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're eighteen nineteen twenty years old at a school

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<v Speaker 2>like Arizona or whatever, and you're making one point five,

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<v Speaker 2>one point whatever whatever you're making.

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<v Speaker 5>Could I imagine that? Yeah? Could you as an eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>year old in college? Yeah? No, I mean I would

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<v Speaker 5>have been dead and I would have been dead in

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<v Speaker 5>a ditch somewhere like there's I would have I would

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<v Speaker 5>have had the greatest six months of my life. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>arguably I had a pretty good run in college. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>it's part but that's part of it. Maybe it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of crazy. Yeah, but I to raise point just to

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<v Speaker 5>get back to the topic. Can handle a little bit. USC.

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<v Speaker 5>Lincoln Riley's got to do something right, I mean like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you talk about some of the the I

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<v Speaker 5>thought that was a great hire for USC, go out

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<v Speaker 5>and get them. And it's like Lincoln stepped on campus,

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<v Speaker 5>is like I'm good, like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like he I don't know, it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 3>he's taking it as seriously. Yeah he did, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean at the same time, I think even when

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<v Speaker 4>USC was good with Caleb Williams, it was the same

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<v Speaker 4>faults where it was like great offense, not a really

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<v Speaker 4>good defense. Yeah, And I think I remember a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years ago when they played Washington, like it was

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<v Speaker 4>just a shootout that I think Washington literally made like

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<v Speaker 4>two stops and then just ended up taking the game.

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<v Speaker 5>That was that was still Pack twelve though. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 5>was still against uh Arizona, No, no, Washington US.

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<v Speaker 3>He was playing Washington, yeah, because that was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with Arizona. I mean, whoever had the ball

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<v Speaker 2>last was gonna win.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but Arizona didn't have Caleb Williams. No, no oh

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<v Speaker 5>when they played each other, you know, yeah, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 5>you're to your point, like with Caleb Williams when you

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<v Speaker 5>have a number one overall draft quarterback right in the

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<v Speaker 5>Pac twelve and this is a knock and that was

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<v Speaker 5>a I think that was That was a great year

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<v Speaker 5>for That was a great year for Yeah. So a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit better team, I mean a lot better teams,

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<v Speaker 5>but still, like you, you should not be losing games.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't even make it to the to the conference. No,

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<v Speaker 4>the championship wasn't it was never in contention for the

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<v Speaker 4>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we'll keep it moving.

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona women's basketball team landed a Memphis transfer, ten Tenyual Welch.

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<v Speaker 3>Tenny Tenuel Welch.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if I'm so glad that Ray's trying

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<v Speaker 5>to say names, because I I butchered. I'm the worst.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised you even had me on your show. I

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<v Speaker 5>can't even get a regular word out of my mouth. Congratulations, Right,

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>Al Right, So that's two now I think that she

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<v Speaker 2>has Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's got three.

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<v Speaker 5>Buffalo the transfer from Buffalo, the mid Atlantic transfer and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah Caleb, yeah from Cleveland in Cleveland State. Okay, keeping

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<v Speaker 3>it going.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh co Pete officially signed, so he obviously had. Uh

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<v Speaker 4>he's been he announced that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 4>coming here for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>But I guess it's official now for whatever. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>That means mister Blake, Well he's the trick question fished. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because over the last week or so, they've they've

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<v Speaker 2>signed jayde Bradley, h Delorso, Awaka and cres Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>weren't they already here?

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<v Speaker 5>Now they have to sign them. I told you it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's your re recruiting every single year.

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<v Speaker 2>So I asked them, I said, this is just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of odd because Blake's coming back for a second year. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to say that because we knew that

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<v Speaker 2>he was coming back. You nowhere to go. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So they're signing these things. So

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<v Speaker 2>I asked the people at u of A, what does

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<v Speaker 2>this all mean? Because it's new they're signing and Bryant's no,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian co Copete signed signed. Okay, So they are signing

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<v Speaker 2>agreements related to revenue sharing the twenty million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>a portion with ther continguency that the House Settlement is

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<v Speaker 2>approved and implemented, or they're signing a financial aid agreement

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<v Speaker 2>for the upcoming year related to their scholarships.

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<v Speaker 5>I also think it's just a way for them to

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<v Speaker 5>create some media buzz for their local markets to allow

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<v Speaker 5>people know they're coming back. I mean, I think there's

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<v Speaker 5>always a question mark on our side. Maybe yea. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's that's you can think that way. Yeah, I guess. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate you allowing me to No.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I guess I guess that's a that's

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<v Speaker 2>get of the studio. I'm gonna find somebody to help.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't tomorrow, No no, no, no, you can take that way,

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<v Speaker 2>because I guess if you're gonna want some publicity in

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<v Speaker 2>the signing. Yeah, the thing about a sponsor by Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>Fried Chicken, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Or something like that. You remember that kid from was

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<v Speaker 5>it uh? Was it u U c l A. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know the kid that put on the fake press

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<v Speaker 5>conference and then said he was it was col Or

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<v Speaker 5>something and then he said he was going to cal

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<v Speaker 5>uh and they had this whole press conference and the

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<v Speaker 5>cow coach was like, I've never even heard of this kid.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't remember that, No, you can google. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>that long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is isn't it that court case where the

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<v Speaker 2>actress actress and actresses put their kids to school and

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't play it on the rowing team.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, that was uh, that was what five six

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<v Speaker 5>years ago? Anyway, back to ray, keep butchering those names, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll keep doing it. Not all of them could be

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<v Speaker 5>hymeniz Yeah. I couldn't find it. But we'll get back

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<v Speaker 5>to that fake press conference.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Arizona baseball snapped a four game losing streak again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they had been losing four games before last yeah okay,

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<v Speaker 2>oh okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. So they are now.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking forward to BYU over the weekend in Provo, and

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<v Speaker 4>they are twenty six and ten on the season so far.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, and what third in the big twelfth?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, a good squad though. Chip's done. Good job

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<v Speaker 5>with that team. Oh yeah, yeah of course. Yeah. What

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<v Speaker 5>about softball? You have softball? Because they've played tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they've played tomorrow against Tech Texas Texas. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a top fifteen, top fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Texas Tech has that said, the million dollar baby

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<v Speaker 2>from Stanford.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you imagine having eighteen million dollars this eighteen? I

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<v Speaker 5>can't you keep telling these numbers out there, like I, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I can imagine it. Will I ever have it?

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<v Speaker 2>That?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably not. I don't have the mindset. Could you imagine

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<v Speaker 5>have it at forty two? Yeah? I just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I think the only thing well we'll talk

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Off there, yep, there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona Golf in the Western Allegic Tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>There as a team. They're in third. But oh, here's

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<v Speaker 3>another one.

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<v Speaker 5>Philip jacob uh Jacobig Jacobite. He was a Highland warrior

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<v Speaker 5>from Scotland. I think, oh man, that's a Jacobite. So

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<v Speaker 5>he's in the he's in the lead.

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<v Speaker 4>And we also have Zach uh polo double almost got

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<v Speaker 4>me in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 5>Zach, this is great radio. Let's keep it going right.

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<v Speaker 3>In the third place, what is that?

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<v Speaker 5>That's the Western Regional?

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<v Speaker 3>What is that?

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<v Speaker 5>Western was just a tournament?

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<v Speaker 3>I think? Yeah, it's the Western Regional, I believe.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, I saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching some of it last night, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing really well as a team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great. As a team, they're third. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you got first.

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<v Speaker 5>Individual players that are we don't need to go over

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<v Speaker 5>those names. Just start with the first names en roll

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<v Speaker 5>from there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, happened yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Warriors beat the Rockets and I guess kind of an

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<v Speaker 4>el Bider in the end, you know, Grizzy or beat

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<v Speaker 4>the Grizzly.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry to it took a five second call to get

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<v Speaker 5>him to win that game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean jocking and get open. I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>So every time you see Steph, did you watch the

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<v Speaker 5>game the NBA game?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, no I didn't. I was listening to on

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<v Speaker 2>the radio and I got home and cut the tail

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. The dude, the dude is better every

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<v Speaker 2>time you see him. He saved that game. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>his shots were unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>No, And it was just crazy because he has like

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<v Speaker 4>the he had like his thumb wrapped on his shooting hand,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like, man, he's just he's still just switching

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<v Speaker 4>him every time. You're like, yeah, yeah, but yeah, him

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<v Speaker 4>and Jimmy Butler combined for seventy five points in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's they.

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<v Speaker 5>Needed every one of them. Oh yeah, that's Butler time

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<v Speaker 5>right now. That's another dude. That's another team that we

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<v Speaker 5>were talking about before that. You know, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 5>who can make it to the conference finals or even

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<v Speaker 5>to the championship. But with Butler and the playoff, Butler

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<v Speaker 5>is a different beast for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think they to me, they were one

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<v Speaker 4>of the few teams that can match up well against

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<v Speaker 4>the Lakers, just because they have two like medium sized

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<v Speaker 4>guys that can match up with Draymond and Jimmy Butler,

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<v Speaker 4>that can match up with Luca and Lebron.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to end up having to FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, the Hawks lost to the Magic and Trey

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<v Speaker 4>The Heat and the Bulls start their game, uh, to

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<v Speaker 5>You're right though, no, he says the Kings. I said

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's wild to me. Yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean it's fair. I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a fan of the play in just because,

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<v Speaker 5>So it literally feels from my standpoint that the playoffs

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<v Speaker 6>So?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know? And now you have a mid season

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<v Speaker 5>tournament to go along with that. It's like, what am

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<v Speaker 5>Where am I at this? I'm sure you have a

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<v Speaker 2>Concern they'll watch the NBA because I don't know anybody

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<v Speaker 3>Or I mean I keep up with it, I won't.

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<v Speaker 4>with it just to just you know, have headlines and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And if I'm going to watch a game, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>turn it on till the fourth quarter because teams happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>fourth quarter, they it's like, what happened? That was all

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<v Speaker 5>the time. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>bash the NBA, but it's crust. That's one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's a lot of different reasons why nobody's really

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<v Speaker 2>watching the league. They'll watch for the playoffs, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>watch during the regular season.

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<v Speaker 5>But they had a they had a huge spike like

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<v Speaker 5>three years ago, right in ratings the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was winning? Who was the winning teams? Because that's

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<v Speaker 2>if you figured, Yeah I figured through Boston won. But

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been Milwaukee and the Sun.

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<v Speaker 5>year before was Golden State. No, Golden State hasn't been

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<v Speaker 5>good as a well, I don't know about that. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so I don't know. I don't know what the right

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<v Speaker 5>sauce is anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just think fresh, fresh, teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>probably more than anything.

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<v Speaker 5>And you're getting a new I think you're getting you've

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<v Speaker 5>So like there's gonna be a new batch of people

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<v Speaker 5>wimby all those guys that you're gonna Lebron's gonna go away,

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<v Speaker 5>Staff's gonna go away, but there's people to take that place.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's always more. Yeah, yeah, you'd hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So keeping a moving though. Freshman Khanka Nipple from Duke

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be entering the draft.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's good. You can shoot it. You have a

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<v Speaker 5>of those lottery guys. I think that I think he's

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<v Speaker 5>This is a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have I'm pretty sure if you have friends

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<v Speaker 2>and you had a million dollars, wouldn't that be amazing?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Do you have to pick one or the other?

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<v Speaker 5>I would pick friends. I've grew up poor. I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care about friend. I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Another freshman entering the draft is gonna be Michigan's Danny Wolf.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Expected lottery all that says projected first round. Yeah, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>In this.

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<v Speaker 4>Another I don't know, kind of big news as well,

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<v Speaker 4>another one to look out for. Other local news, the

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<v Speaker 4>soccer team just release their schedule. The women's soccer team. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>nice house. Let me let me start whether by the

427
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<v Speaker 2>things I sent you, uh Ja Billis was on I

428
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<v Speaker 2>guess with coach k about about you know, players getting

429
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<v Speaker 2>the money in n I L YadA YadA and the

430
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<v Speaker 2>contract potential.

431
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<v Speaker 5>Did you did you see it? Did you watch it? Yeah?

432
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<v Speaker 5>I did, Yeah, I did see that.

433
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<v Speaker 6>I've actually talked to him about that, you know before,

434
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<v Speaker 6>and yeah, he's he's a big proponent or advocate I

435
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<v Speaker 6>should say, of you know, just of players becoming employees.

436
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<v Speaker 6>And you know, I think he feels like once they

437
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<v Speaker 6>do that, you know, they can unionize and you know,

438
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<v Speaker 6>collectively bargained and there will be those will those will

439
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<v Speaker 6>by by itself, by its nature, create some of the

440
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<v Speaker 6>boundaries that people are talking about. You know, I think,

441
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<v Speaker 6>you know, I'm sure that the NC double A the

442
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<v Speaker 6>schools probably don't want to do it because there could

443
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<v Speaker 6>be you know, there could be some it could open

444
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<v Speaker 6>the doors for some things, right, And but I also think,

445
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<v Speaker 6>you know, one of the other things, they don't have

446
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<v Speaker 6>to necessarily even become actual employees. I think, like if

447
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<v Speaker 6>you if you think about some of the Hollywood groups

448
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<v Speaker 6>out there, I think, like the SAG Actors one one

449
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<v Speaker 6>of the SAG I think guilds or whatever has like

450
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<v Speaker 6>you know, collectively bargains for things, and they're not actual employees.

451
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<v Speaker 5>They have the sort of union to it.

452
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<v Speaker 6>So I think there's a chance, you know, it could

453
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<v Speaker 6>get there. We'll see. I just I just think what's

454
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<v Speaker 6>amazing to me is how fast things have changed in

455
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<v Speaker 6>this area. You know, in the last since COVID, right,

456
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<v Speaker 6>you know, with the transfer portal and you're not having

457
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<v Speaker 6>to sit out a year, and I mean those you

458
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<v Speaker 6>just talk about the things that have happened, you know,

459
00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.880
<v Speaker 6>just major, major things have changed the landscape, and you know,

460
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<v Speaker 6>three or four of them in the last five years,

461
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<v Speaker 6>and nothing that happened, you know, probably fifty years before that.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Sure, let me ask you this, I would assume, I

463
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<v Speaker 2>would assume the players, whether they like it or not

464
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<v Speaker 2>would probably not do it because they haven't. They haven't

465
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<v Speaker 2>made right now, at least by my naked eyes, in

466
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<v Speaker 2>terms of not wanting to be an employee. You know

467
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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, le's less restraints thinking you know, you

468
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<v Speaker 2>can do whatever you want.

469
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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't like it. Here, I'm gone, we lose them.

470
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<v Speaker 6>I think some of some of the wild West parts

471
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<v Speaker 6>of it, I'm not sure the players like right because

472
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<v Speaker 6>things seem to be changing. There's you know, there's there's

473
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<v Speaker 6>I'll take one area the players would probably do well

474
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<v Speaker 6>with is making sure that the agents that represent them

475
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<v Speaker 6>have some sort of certificate or you know, what's the

476
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<v Speaker 6>word that it just that they that they had that

477
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<v Speaker 6>there's some sort of regulation around it. And I know

478
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<v Speaker 6>with with some players, you know, just because I think

479
00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.640
<v Speaker 6>right now any anybody can be an agent for a player,

480
00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.759
<v Speaker 6>and when you have that and there's no regulation around it,

481
00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, you do have some areas where you know,

482
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<v Speaker 6>people can take advantage of players, or things can happen

483
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:24.440
<v Speaker 6>that that are that are again it's just you know,

484
00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:26.880
<v Speaker 6>may charge too much and that you know, if you

485
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.920
<v Speaker 6>had some regulation around that, you could probably like for example,

486
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<v Speaker 6>if you're an NBA agent, which I was at one point.

487
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<v Speaker 6>You know, there's there are limits on what you can charge,

488
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<v Speaker 6>what you can actually charge the client.

489
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<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was like three percent, and I

490
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<v Speaker 2>was shocked to because it was only three percent.

491
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<v Speaker 6>I think it's four at least when I was it

492
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<v Speaker 6>was four. They may have reduced it now because the

493
00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.039
<v Speaker 6>money so I it was I believe it was for

494
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<v Speaker 6>when I did it.

495
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, aren't you glad you're out of the business.

496
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<v Speaker 6>I enjoyed the work, like representing the players. I didn't

497
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<v Speaker 6>enjoy the It's just just the world of it is

498
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<v Speaker 6>hard to keep up with, and it became much more

499
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<v Speaker 6>than the representation. It was more about just like recruiting kids,

500
00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:14.319
<v Speaker 6>you know, and that just wasn't my my Bailey Wick.

501
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<v Speaker 5>So, Matt, they don't have to the agents now at

502
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<v Speaker 5>the college level don't have to be certified with an agency.

503
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<v Speaker 6>I don't think so. You guys might check on that,

504
00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:28.000
<v Speaker 6>or you know, Google check me on that, but I'm

505
00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.279
<v Speaker 6>pretty sure there's no regulation around that.

506
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I think I kind of agree with Matt here

507
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<v Speaker 5>on the unionized piece of it. And I think if

508
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<v Speaker 5>you're in university it gives you a chance to maybe

509
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<v Speaker 5>put in a salary cap to where you can kind

510
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<v Speaker 5>of have more control from a financial standpoint, even from

511
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<v Speaker 5>a competitive standpoint. But if I'm a player, I want

512
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<v Speaker 5>the union side of it, you know, at least gives

513
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<v Speaker 5>you the backing that you need at that age. Like

514
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<v Speaker 5>we were just talking about, you're an eighteen year old,

515
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<v Speaker 5>a millionaire, maybe a seventeen year old millionaire that you

516
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<v Speaker 5>don't know how to handle your money.

517
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's well, whatever it is, I'm sure you know.

518
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:09.799
<v Speaker 6>I do believe even if even to some degree of

519
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<v Speaker 6>some options for a player or the university or the

520
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.440
<v Speaker 6>n CUBA A, I do believe like some certainty would help, right,

521
00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:19.000
<v Speaker 6>some just just so you kind of understand the landscape

522
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<v Speaker 6>a little more. And uh so that's now it's changing again.

523
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<v Speaker 2>I think the legislation, that's what passed, so we all

524
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>know it was a new legislation, so we all knew

525
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:30.200
<v Speaker 2>it was a long time in coming that they'd get paid.

526
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:32.480
<v Speaker 5>Who would have ever imagined that they be getting paid

527
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.160
<v Speaker 5>at this level?

528
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:33.720
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

529
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:37.079
<v Speaker 5>Name is so fast? So yeah, so fast?

530
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<v Speaker 2>And this amount of money for you being a former player,

531
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 2>are you happy?

532
00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:44.839
<v Speaker 5>This is a dumb question, are you happy for it?

533
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:45.440
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

534
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<v Speaker 2>Should it be you know, not so much money. Is

535
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<v Speaker 2>there a fine line?

536
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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, as a former player, I'm I'm yeah,

537
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<v Speaker 6>I'm very happy that the players, you know, are able

538
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<v Speaker 6>to two you know, to get paid for what they

539
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.960
<v Speaker 6>what they do. And I would want to, you know,

540
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 6>and and I wish I was, you know, that would

541
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 6>have been great. That would have been awesome. Again, I

542
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.519
<v Speaker 6>think the question that you're asking is, yeah, what is

543
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.359
<v Speaker 6>you know, is there is there something that's too much?

544
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:23.319
<v Speaker 6>I guess one of the considerations that I've you know, again,

545
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 6>I've talked to Jay a little bit about this, and

546
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.000
<v Speaker 6>I have been a little concerned about the model. You know,

547
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.839
<v Speaker 6>what does does doing something like this hurt the college model?

548
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.119
<v Speaker 6>And and it certainly will change the model, and and

549
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:40.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, I don't know, you know, I've I've heard

550
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:44.200
<v Speaker 6>some people say that that it bothers them and so

551
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 6>they're not as in tune. But then you see some

552
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.480
<v Speaker 6>of the network ratings and the football and basketball I

553
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 6>think have been as high as as ever and so

554
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's you know, so it's it's it's hard

555
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.559
<v Speaker 6>for me to kind of see the future on that.

556
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 6>I Like I said, I do worry because I've always

557
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 6>loved the college model, the college model of you know people,

558
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.079
<v Speaker 6>it's it's more of a you know, you're connected to

559
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 6>your school obviously, and connected to the the idea and

560
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:12.839
<v Speaker 6>the romantic side of like what used to be amateurism,

561
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 6>of course has changed, but you know the idea that

562
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, would that change, would it create like a

563
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:23.000
<v Speaker 6>minor league system and people not watch as much? But again,

564
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 6>the raidings have been have been pretty sky.

565
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<v Speaker 2>High, right right, So let me let me hold this

566
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:33.559
<v Speaker 2>that you I had athick In I had. Uh, it'll

567
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 2>come to me. Uh, your your teammate Harvey Mason a time,

568
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.119
<v Speaker 2>a time or two recently. Uh, So you're getting paid,

569
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.519
<v Speaker 2>let's say, just hypothetically one point five whatever as as

570
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>a player, and your coach is getting paid you know, similar,

571
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:49.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit more or whatever.

572
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 5>How do you how do you tell a coach?

573
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.680
<v Speaker 2>How do you tell a player you're the coach to

574
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Speaker 2>play when this kid's making money and he he knows

575
00:26:57.720 --> 00:26:58.799
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff he needs to know.

576
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.559
<v Speaker 6>I know, well, I mean I guess, I guess it's

577
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 6>probably the one the one area of the age old

578
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.039
<v Speaker 6>area that that the coach has the control over is

579
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 6>the playing time. And so you know, the benches. The

580
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 6>bench is the great equalizer in that system. But you're right,

581
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 6>I mean, think well and think of it. It's even

582
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 6>further upside down in the NBA, where at least, I mean,

583
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 6>coaches now are making more. But you know, in the

584
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 6>last twenty years, there were times where coaches were making

585
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, twenty times less or you know, extremely, you know,

586
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:36.000
<v Speaker 6>significantly less than some of the players. And so you wonder,

587
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.920
<v Speaker 6>but you know, I think over time again, people adapt

588
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 6>and evolve on it. And like I said, the coach

589
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.279
<v Speaker 6>can the coach can decide who to play. Now, does

590
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 6>that still create some issues? Yeah?

591
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 5>Probably could? I wondered too. Among players.

592
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.519
<v Speaker 6>That was the thing I always wondered, like, Okay, what

593
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 6>what if I sign a deal and you know, player

594
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 6>next to me signs one for for you know, twice

595
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.519
<v Speaker 6>the amount. But I'm playing more, I'm starting, and he's not.

596
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I guess maybe I need to get a

597
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 6>new agent.

598
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I've said this when this all thing broke

599
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe three four years ago, and and then and Jay

600
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and I were talking about I says, what if I'm

601
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the center, I'm the center and I make an X

602
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>amount of my fifty thousand and sixty thousand dollars and

603
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm a right right guard, right tackle whatever, and the

604
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>quarterback is making four or five times that quarterback needs

605
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>being a block for him, you know, And how does

606
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:24.839
<v Speaker 2>this work?

607
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 5>That's right? That's right.

608
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 6>Well I was going to say, is that that's a

609
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 6>little bit of the system in the NFL, right, I mean,

610
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.279
<v Speaker 6>that's that's why they buy those guys dinner and they

611
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:37.039
<v Speaker 6>buy him presents and everything at the end of the

612
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 6>year because they make more back.

613
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

614
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 6>I think you know, again, the market, the market kind

615
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.480
<v Speaker 6>of you know, you know, you hold the market kind

616
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 6>of fixes itself. And if you don't, if you don't

617
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 6>want to, if you want to make more and become

618
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:51.200
<v Speaker 6>the quarterback.

619
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.160
<v Speaker 5>Right yeah, No, it's holding a gun to your head

620
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.559
<v Speaker 5>to play right due yeah.

621
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So you know, and I think look, we all

622
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 6>we all say that a little bit in anything real

623
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:05.039
<v Speaker 6>life and you know, work and things like that. We all,

624
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, you're sometimes joking for this or that, or

625
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 6>you know, you think somebody in the company makes more

626
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 6>than you or I you know, so that.

627
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:13.119
<v Speaker 5>I think those things happen.

628
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 6>It is.

629
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 5>It is different though, when.

630
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.599
<v Speaker 6>It happens to an eighteen year old versus someone I

631
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 6>mentioned work. You know a lot of times in those

632
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 6>situations you're thirty or forty or even you know, fifty,

633
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 6>and then so you've been through life a little bit more.

634
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 6>And so yeah, it's it's an interesting thing to happen

635
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 6>when when these kids are you know, when the kids

636
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 6>are so young.

637
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<v Speaker 5>Right, Okay, Matt, thanks a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've got to get somewhere and do your stuff,

639
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<v Speaker 2>So thanks a bunch for coming on us.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's interesting.

641
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<v Speaker 2>Though, right, we'll see if it quickly gets corrected or

642
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<v Speaker 2>if it can get corrected.

643
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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

644
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know to some people, Yeah, to some people,

645
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<v Speaker 6>they think it's working right, and they think that it's

646
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<v Speaker 6>just it's working itself out. And again I like I say,

647
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<v Speaker 6>we're just gonna we're gonna see more changes.

648
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<v Speaker 5>So right, Okay, thanks so much, man, appreciate you.

649
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<v Speaker 6>Okay, see, hey, thanks guys.

650
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<v Speaker 5>Okay, we'll stick around for a little while. We don't

651
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<v Speaker 5>have to leave it early. What's wild? I mean, if

652
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<v Speaker 5>you start thinking about it, and a college athlete at

653
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<v Speaker 5>the football and basketball level, right, it's not going to

654
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<v Speaker 5>be the other sports leaves after four years, arguably makes

655
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<v Speaker 5>more money than the majority of Americans will make in

656
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<v Speaker 5>their lives. Where's the where's the competitive nature inside that

657
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<v Speaker 5>athlete to go out into the workforce now sure, and

658
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<v Speaker 5>take a drastic pay cut to go do a job

659
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<v Speaker 5>that's tedious and not something they probably want to do, right, Right, So,

660
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<v Speaker 5>like you're talking about future implications at this point where

661
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<v Speaker 5>you have guys like Ray and Wan that are busting

662
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<v Speaker 5>their butts every single day trying to cut their teeth,

663
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<v Speaker 5>and then you have a college athlete that gets done

664
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<v Speaker 5>and this I mean I was college athlete, right, and

665
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<v Speaker 5>I want I want athletes to get paid at the

666
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<v Speaker 5>level because the school is making so much money and

667
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<v Speaker 5>then CUAA is making so much money of them. But

668
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<v Speaker 5>what does that do for future generations of guys that

669
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<v Speaker 5>are no longer having to compete for playing time, right,

670
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<v Speaker 5>and then getting out of college and we'll use a

671
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<v Speaker 5>word well off, maybe to the point where they never

672
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<v Speaker 5>really have if they manage their money well enough, might

673
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<v Speaker 5>never have to work again to get into a workforce

674
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<v Speaker 5>and compete with other people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if this is to your point,

676
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<v Speaker 2>but okay, so and you know all these people you

677
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<v Speaker 2>may have been one. You played well in college you

678
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<v Speaker 2>gotta yetta? When did and you played it in the pros?

679
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<v Speaker 2>When did reality hit you? And I see this kind

680
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<v Speaker 2>of ingest maybe earlier this week. I've known a lot

681
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<v Speaker 2>of the former athletes. Yeah, yeah, some of them are jerks.

682
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<v Speaker 2>Some of them aren't great guys because they're good athletes.

683
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<v Speaker 2>You spot because you probably know exactly what I'm saying.

684
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<v Speaker 2>And then and then maybe three four years out of

685
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<v Speaker 2>the sport, right, they become one, they became ready to

686
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<v Speaker 2>become Steve Rivera and they try to be normal people

687
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<v Speaker 2>after being jerked for all rise because they've had good.

688
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<v Speaker 5>I mean you're talking specifically personally for me or just

689
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<v Speaker 5>in general.

690
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<v Speaker 2>What you see because am I not paid an accurate picture?

691
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<v Speaker 5>No? I mean I think to a degree you are.

692
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<v Speaker 5>It just it also depends on how you're raised. And

693
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<v Speaker 5>I mean we talked about this, you know, survival method

694
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<v Speaker 5>of where you're coming from and how to get off

695
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<v Speaker 5>that island and whatever that looks like, or if you're

696
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<v Speaker 5>you know, not having to worry about any of that,

697
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<v Speaker 5>and like what creates a competitive nature? And yeah, I

698
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<v Speaker 5>can only speak to my own personal experiences. When I

699
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<v Speaker 5>started working with youth, with young men, young women, like

700
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<v Speaker 5>I mean they were they were eight to you know, no, no, no,

701
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<v Speaker 5>you oh, I was twenty seven. Maybe the reality was

702
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<v Speaker 5>I was seeing them take after things like taking my

703
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<v Speaker 5>actions in an account and acting similar to me, or

704
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<v Speaker 5>there was traits there, and I realized at that point

705
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<v Speaker 5>that I had to be a better human being and

706
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<v Speaker 5>a better a better mentor. I would put myself in that.

707
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<v Speaker 5>Like I wanted to be a mentor. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>help raise other people's children, which sounds kind of weird,

709
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<v Speaker 5>but it gave me. That's what you were at tesked

710
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<v Speaker 5>to do. Yeah, that's what I want to do, right.

711
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<v Speaker 5>I don't have kids on my own. We won't need

712
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.599
<v Speaker 5>to get into that's a personal thing, whether that's an

713
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<v Speaker 5>off air topic, but I do want to try to

714
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<v Speaker 5>be a part of people's lives, right, Like, so taking that,

715
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<v Speaker 5>seeing that and then being a part of their lives,

716
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<v Speaker 5>whether it's going to their acchoir competition or accho acchoir

717
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<v Speaker 5>concerts or band concerts, or just in general part of

718
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<v Speaker 5>their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>A twenty two year old, twenty three year old you

720
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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years I think, listen.

721
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<v Speaker 5>I it took a lot like BLUs my wife staying

722
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<v Speaker 5>with me. As you know, it took a long time,

723
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<v Speaker 5>the maturation process for me. It took a long time.

724
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<v Speaker 5>And it does for a lot of athletes. And that's

725
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<v Speaker 5>what I was gonna say. Your story is not dissimilar.

726
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<v Speaker 2>No, it just for a lot of athletes because you know,

727
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<v Speaker 2>once the once the applause is over, and I think

728
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<v Speaker 2>I did the story maybe thirty years ago. Once the

729
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<v Speaker 2>applause is over, they don't know what to do themselves

730
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<v Speaker 2>because they've never had to not hear the applause.

731
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think about it from my standpoint. I'm an

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<v Speaker 5>only child too, so I want all the attention, Like

733
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<v Speaker 5>I want to be one, like show me attention. When

734
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 5>that went away, I was like, I got to figure

735
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<v Speaker 5>this out. No, And it's it's.

736
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<v Speaker 2>Tough for some people and some people can't handle it

737
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<v Speaker 2>or whatever because they're not used to it. Imagine you

738
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<v Speaker 2>have a ton of money or whatever, and your parents

739
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.719
<v Speaker 2>are a big influence you, like the kid from If

740
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<v Speaker 2>it's true that the dad had some part of it

741
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<v Speaker 2>in Tennessee, that's assumed, but he was one of those

742
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<v Speaker 2>helicopter parents.

743
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<v Speaker 5>Most parents nowadays. I mean, I shouldn't say most, But

744
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 5>it's a vast it's a vast difference from when I

745
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.039
<v Speaker 5>was playing where I don't know about you, but my

746
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 5>parents never got in. My parents would never have a

747
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 5>conversation with a coach that's starting at like the little

748
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:39.639
<v Speaker 5>league level now, like they are so involved, and parents

749
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 5>don't realize what you're doing, like when you give them

750
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 5>that safety net. A young woman and a young man

751
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 5>will never learn how to fail. If you can't learn

752
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 5>how to fail, life so hard. And that's not me preaching,

753
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 5>that's not honest truth. I totally agree. You need to

754
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 5>get out of the way. You can have a conversation

755
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 5>with the player, and he's a player, how to now

756
00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:59.159
<v Speaker 5>have a conversation with a coach. That's a life skill

757
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 5>they need to learn. But if you're constantly critiquing what

758
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 5>that coach is doing, you're not honestly assessing what that

759
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 5>player is doing on a regular basis. No, no, no, to

760
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 5>your point, And I totally agree with that. And to

761
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<v Speaker 5>your point, those who succeed at being on a team

762
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 5>and taking criticism and taking constructive criticism will become better employees. Yeah,

763
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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you there, I'll tell you a story. We

764
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<v Speaker 5>think it was spring training. One year we had our

765
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<v Speaker 5>minor league coordinator was a guy named Guy Kanti. Right,

766
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 5>Chillie Duncan knows him well a lot of I mean,

767
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:33.880
<v Speaker 5>who's been alone pro ball since for like eighty years. Right,

768
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<v Speaker 5>he's maybe five to four, probably seventy eight at this point.

769
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<v Speaker 5>Would just take a golf card around and we were

770
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<v Speaker 5>doing this is my first spring training. We were doing

771
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<v Speaker 5>first and third, so you had a runner on first,

772
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 5>a runner on third, right, And this is the first

773
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:47.719
<v Speaker 5>time I ever had a pitching coach in my life.

774
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 5>When I got to Pro Bowl. I mean, I had

775
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 5>done some lessons, but I never in college. I never

776
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 5>had a pitching coach. And so you have to you know,

777
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 5>the runner leaves and you have to check the runner

778
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 5>a third and then give the ball up right, and

779
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<v Speaker 5>I would I we never worked on it, and I

780
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<v Speaker 5>would just keep messing up. He pulled me aside in

781
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<v Speaker 5>front of probably sixty guys and and maf me up

782
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<v Speaker 5>and down, like yelling, screaming at me, and I just remember,

783
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<v Speaker 5>like I've got to get this right, like not like,

784
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<v Speaker 5>oh my god, I can't believe I'm gonna call my parent.

785
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 5>I can't believe no I was like, this is my job, right.

786
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 5>If I don't fix this, I don't have a career anymore.

787
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<v Speaker 5>That thought process is different now, and you know he

788
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<v Speaker 5>could have probably done in a different manner than that,

789
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<v Speaker 5>but at the same time, just the direct connection to

790
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<v Speaker 5>that is completely different. Well, it was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Powerful powerful enough for you to remember this and to

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<v Speaker 2>probably use that too down the road for other Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's leave and come back on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>for our final segment.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're an Arizona Man's.

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the apses and ohs. This is Eye

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports foteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, You're Blake. We got one,

868
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>we got Ray. We have time for some calls, maybe

869
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>take some calls. What's going on with whatever we're talking about?

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<v Speaker 5>Tucson great place and the wonderful places to go that

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<v Speaker 5>turn into complete crash shows, crazy crazy place. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 5>we're here and we love it. Yeah yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>I think it makes us who we are as we

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<v Speaker 5>grow older.

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00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.079
<v Speaker 2>So now I got Richard, who's a caller every now

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00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and again, he texts me all the time. He wants

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00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 2>in addition to college athletes getting paid, he wants good calls,

878
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>good callers to get paid for who's paying.

879
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 5>Who's paying?

880
00:40:57.679 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Then my not my sponsor? Is he going to go

881
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 2>and get sponsors for that?

882
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:03.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Got to you by this call, brought to you

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00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:04.760
<v Speaker 5>by That would be legit.

884
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Though, if you could do that by x LAX where

885
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the stuff flows down hopefully, hopefully you're in a good

886
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>position for that.

887
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 4>So on the point of pay players getting paid, you know,

888
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 4>you see it with like the other two major sports,

889
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 4>with like basketball having the G League and then baseball

890
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 4>with like the farming systems and stuff like that. Do

891
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 4>you think like football should have a G league so

892
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 4>it gives them, like like players a different option instead

893
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:29.360
<v Speaker 4>of college.

894
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 5>I think that's what they're trying to do with XFL

895
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 5>and USFL. Right, you've got Canada. I always said it

896
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.760
<v Speaker 5>with the football to me, is the only sport that

897
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 5>I think the players should absolutely have guaranteed money. I'm

898
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:44.920
<v Speaker 5>always gonna say baseball players because the season is so

899
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.960
<v Speaker 5>long and the wear and tear on your body because

900
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 5>it's it's baseball is more translatable to actual life, like

901
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 5>you had to show up every day to work. But football,

902
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.480
<v Speaker 5>what you're putting your body through on a regular basis,

903
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 5>like that should be guaranteed money. I do think there

904
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 5>should be a farm system now, especially from an athlete,

905
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 5>because they don't have a chance. Once you're done with

906
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 5>college football. If you're not going to the NFL or Canada,

907
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 5>what other I mean, you're the NFL Europe has done,

908
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 5>Like what other league? There's no Europe the indoor leagues

909
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.679
<v Speaker 5>and you have the Yeah, that's true, Yes they're right,

910
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.719
<v Speaker 5>But I mean outside of the United States, there's no

911
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 5>there's no options outside of Canada. Right with baseball, You've

912
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 5>got baseball over the world. You've got basketball obviously is

913
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 5>probably the best one. In soccer is the best one.

914
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.119
<v Speaker 5>So what's your question? Just like, should there be a

915
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 5>minor league system or g League four? NFL? Remember, you

916
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.599
<v Speaker 5>have to pay these guys. Who's going to pay these guys?

917
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 2>And it's the most it's a billion dollar industry. The

918
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 2>NFL should step up and pay. Well, that's kind of

919
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing.

920
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, if they were funding NFL Europe, you know,

921
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 4>I kind of fell through. I feel like, so why

922
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 4>not just start it here, like as a as a

923
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:45.599
<v Speaker 4>lower level kind of thing.

924
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 5>Splits for college for callers. Yeah, what a great idea. Yeah,

925
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:55.119
<v Speaker 5>this call brought to you by Shamrock. That would be

926
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 5>you think he has to he has to get his

927
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 5>own theme song every time they call, right right? Right? Yeah?

928
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh well, I guess that's a good idea, but you

929
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:04.199
<v Speaker 2>already kind of have it. And who's coming up with

930
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 2>this money to start these programs? You know, they had

931
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 2>the USFL many years ago and it failed.

932
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 5>They still have it. Uh yeah, I guess right, U

933
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 5>l USFL. I don't think X is XFL still. I

934
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 5>think they merged, did they? I look at the crowds.

935
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 5>Have you seen the crowds? No crowd? No? But I

936
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 5>don't want to watch football during the summer, right, I'm

937
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.239
<v Speaker 5>sorry that when I say baseball, that's just what I

938
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 5>want to watch. Yeah, but I mean, ray, you also

939
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 5>have to think from a minor league baseball standpoint, they

940
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 5>didn't get in the Union until three years ago or

941
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 5>four years ago. Nobody, Well, unless you're the banana bananas

942
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.599
<v Speaker 5>or what are thevana bana banana banana right right in

943
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 5>on a banana boat. So it's banana banana banana boat. Well,

944
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 5>so you're not minor leagues don't get that much. I mean,

945
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.119
<v Speaker 5>it's better now and you've got you've got a little

946
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 5>bit more leverage. But they've they're coming out on a

947
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:58.800
<v Speaker 5>CBA next year for collective barking agreement that I mean,

948
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 5>we'll see what happens.

949
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna ask you a dumb question. Are you

950
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 2>glad your path took you the way it took you?

951
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 2>And would you have got off the old baseball dream

952
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:10.280
<v Speaker 2>before earlier?

953
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:14.159
<v Speaker 5>What do you What do you mean? So you what

954
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 5>age did you get out? Was the final year when

955
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.320
<v Speaker 5>I had my laborm surgery? That was oh nine, was

956
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 5>the last week? I don't know, what's seventeen years ago?

957
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 5>You had twenty seven?

958
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>You're twenty seven, okay, So knowing what you know now,

959
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:34.639
<v Speaker 2>would you have gotten off the old baseball dream and

960
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 2>gotten onto your real life earlier? I think I know

961
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 2>the answer to this, and mine's nope, because come on,

962
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:45.679
<v Speaker 2>little boys dream bought stuff like this.

963
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.239
<v Speaker 5>Listen. I mean, I know people say this. I only

964
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.480
<v Speaker 5>ever wanted to be with the I mean big leaguer

965
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 5>people would ask me from time I was two years old. Yeah,

966
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 5>it's all I ever wanted to be. I love baseball.

967
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.760
<v Speaker 5>I still love baseball more than anything almost. Well, no,

968
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 5>that's not true. I would get in big trouble. That's

969
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:05.199
<v Speaker 5>definitely not true. No, I listen, I didn't try to

970
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.280
<v Speaker 5>hold on. And that's a that's a scary part for athletes, right,

971
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 5>you try to hold onto them. So the thing I

972
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 5>was going to bring this up for all of you

973
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:14.679
<v Speaker 5>guys with this conversation is that I do think there

974
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 5>should be a transitional phase, and some schools have it,

975
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 5>some professional leagues have it from an athlete going to

976
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 5>the professional world because it's a it's a it's a

977
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 5>two to three year phase where if you could speed

978
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.840
<v Speaker 5>that up that and this is the takeaway, but athletes

979
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 5>are good workers, right, They're hard workers. You have to be.

980
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 5>If you could transition quicker, I believe the workforce would

981
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 5>transpire and you create a little bit more leadership. I'm

982
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.719
<v Speaker 5>not saying that all athletes are leaders. That's not the case.

983
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.480
<v Speaker 5>But you see a lot, especially in baseball with independent ball,

984
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:46.719
<v Speaker 5>like guys hang on for so long sure that once

985
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.679
<v Speaker 5>they do have that transition phase into a workforce or

986
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 5>to career path, they're there's still they're lost. There's still

987
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:58.039
<v Speaker 5>a ballplayer. And you don't want a guy that's chasing

988
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.639
<v Speaker 5>tail drinking every night and then waking up, you know,

989
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 5>at two pm to do it all over again. Like

990
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 5>and I'm not saying that was my path, but guys

991
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.039
<v Speaker 5>like that of corsually lived that lifestyle pretty aggressively, no question.

992
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh And like I said, they don't know the end game,

993
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and you don't know any better exactly because I don't

994
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 2>know they've done it.

995
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.280
<v Speaker 5>I transitioned in coaching at the right time, Like I

996
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.280
<v Speaker 5>knew I was done. I didn't try to hold onto

997
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 5>play and I went straight into.

998
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Car And I think you said, I'm not speaking of Turner.

999
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>You can tell you and tell me if you had

1000
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:28.519
<v Speaker 2>a good support system and it was a sheet.

1001
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 5>Your wife not at that time, No, she wasn't. I mean, yeah,

1002
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 5>it was pretty close, you know, yeah, pretty close to you.

1003
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 5>It's like an it was like a year, Yeah, a

1004
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:39.400
<v Speaker 5>little bit of a year. Yeah, I had somebody that

1005
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.480
<v Speaker 5>gave me a reality kick, and she could care less

1006
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 5>that I ever. I mean, I think one of my

1007
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 5>pickup lines was like, I I spend my winners in

1008
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.360
<v Speaker 5>Hawaii because I played winter ball the year before in Hawaiian.

1009
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 5>She was like, okay, yeah, big deal. I was like,

1010
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm a professional athlete. She's like, I don't I don't

1011
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.719
<v Speaker 5>care at all, And I was like, okay, cool, Yeah, no, no,

1012
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 5>And that's kind of the reality you get because if

1013
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.360
<v Speaker 5>you're a kid on me too. I wanted to be

1014
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.719
<v Speaker 5>a pro bowl player, couldn't hit a curveball too thin

1015
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 5>and blah blah blah. But my other second gift thing

1016
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 5>was be a sportswriter. Yeah. I happened to do this

1017
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 5>my son, my son.

1018
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Who was you know, you know when I was a

1019
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 2>lot younger and he was a lot younger.

1020
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 5>Dad. Don't you wish you would have been a doctor

1021
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:16.320
<v Speaker 5>of ours? Hell no, I wanted to do this. Yeah.

1022
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I get to meet and travel all over the country,

1023
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>and doctors want to be me. I know that's being facetious,

1024
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, because you know, you get to do things

1025
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and you know there's nothing high pressure you don't make

1026
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:27.719
<v Speaker 2>as much money. But you know what I'm saying, you're

1027
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 2>getting to live the life you want to live. I mean, one,

1028
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the same way, thinking the same thing, right,

1029
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 2>That's why you're doing this and hopingly you catch fire

1030
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:36.440
<v Speaker 2>somehow and Ray.

1031
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah, but don't you think that. I mean,

1032
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.000
<v Speaker 5>this isn't a short time that we've known each other

1033
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 5>at this level. But for me listening to you over

1034
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.320
<v Speaker 5>the years, like you were you were made to do this,

1035
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.199
<v Speaker 5>like this is your this was going to be your

1036
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 5>past at some point or another. You were so good

1037
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 5>at what you do and creating relationships and bringing people

1038
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 5>on and nurturing that and even your writing is phenomenal,

1039
00:47:58.519 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 5>Like you were made to do.

1040
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 2>That well, because I wanted to do this. Only once

1041
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 2>you have your sight set on something, yeah, and you

1042
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you have nowhere else to go. This is what you

1043
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 2>try to do. I mean, this is what you have

1044
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to do to make it.

1045
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:13.039
<v Speaker 5>I mean I have this argument all the time, like

1046
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 5>what what would I do in life? Like I think

1047
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 5>about this, I'm like, I don't know how to do

1048
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:18.559
<v Speaker 5>anything right?

1049
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1050
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 5>It's so pathetic, my wife, But you're a mechanic, but.

1051
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 2>You're not doing because but the thing is to at

1052
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, it's a you're a people person, yeah,

1053
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<v Speaker 2>and this world is a people person place.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you have to be.

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<v Speaker 2>You could be whatever whatever you're going to as long

1056
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<v Speaker 2>as you know how to deal with people and treat

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<v Speaker 2>them fairly.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, there's where you hit on right, fairly right, giving

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00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 5>everybody the fair shake, making sure that you're not doing

1060
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<v Speaker 5>it alone, not trying to take one hundred percent of

1061
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.920
<v Speaker 5>the credit, but you're bringing people along. I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>a huge value.

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<v Speaker 2>I could easily, let me tell you something, I could

1064
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:50.800
<v Speaker 2>easily do this show by myself and be the Si

1065
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 2>rivera show blah blah blah.

1066
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.400
<v Speaker 5>But that's not what I want. To have a good conversation,

1067
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 5>just like we're having. Now.

1068
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Bring you guys on, make this two hours go faster.

1069
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Take some calls, get their philosophies and things like that,

1070
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.639
<v Speaker 2>because it's it's good to know. Yeah, the more knowledge

1071
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 2>you have from people's ideas, the better off you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm trying to wax, I'm not trying to ex poetic,

1073
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<v Speaker 2>but no, you should feel But I mean, listen, we've

1074
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<v Speaker 2>said this before and our callers are probably like I

1075
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 2>don't want to hear this anymore. And I should say,

1076
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 2>your callers, not mine my texts, tell me how bad

1077
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<v Speaker 2>I am anyway. Uh No, But like a point in

1078
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<v Speaker 2>my life that I absolutely needed this right, like the

1079
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:31.800
<v Speaker 2>most chaotic nerve wracking, I mean stressful, like you brought

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00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 2>me on and it was like like if I didn't

1081
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<v Speaker 2>have this, but it was cathartic. It was cathartic exactly. Okay,

1082
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.760
<v Speaker 2>well you're gonna speak because I said, this is what

1083
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 2>you want to do. Now you're just hoping to catch

1084
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<v Speaker 2>fire somewhere exactly.

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<v Speaker 16>And this is a perfect time because if anyone's out

1086
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:49.480
<v Speaker 16>there listening, I am open for work.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah well, let's specify what kind of work, because earlier

1088
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:57.039
<v Speaker 5>we were saying that you were bringing in girls anywhere

1089
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:02.480
<v Speaker 5>plural whatever, whatever gets me the Fiji trying to hit

1090
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:05.719
<v Speaker 5>that miracle mile. And but like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, this is something I enjoy.

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<v Speaker 16>I look forward truly, and I mean this, I'm not

1093
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 16>trying to kiss up to you. I look forward to

1094
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 16>my Mondays and Wednesdays I get to come on here

1095
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:20.000
<v Speaker 16>conversation and then of course when I go report for

1096
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<v Speaker 16>easy doesn't swarm. I love sharing my the work that

1097
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<v Speaker 16>I do, and people I hope maybe they're not telling

1098
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<v Speaker 16>the truth, but people like seeing it.

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<v Speaker 5>I do think it's weird that you make us all

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<v Speaker 5>kiss your ring before we go on air. Oh the

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<v Speaker 5>pause is terrible. You could have got anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>What's my goal to You haven't been with a hot chick?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we hear that probably ten We were just

1104
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<v Speaker 2>I were just talking about something serious.

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<v Speaker 5>You're like, hot chicks already.

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<v Speaker 16>Cut it on, right, Steve's hot chick is raised momentum?

1107
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, one way or the other. You hear about ten

1108
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<v Speaker 5>times the show momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't believe in either of them. We gotta go.

1110
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<v Speaker 2>Here's that time to go. Okay, Hey, Blake Is, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you tomorrow, see me tomorrow night Shore.

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<v Speaker 5>Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have Kim Madaire, Ray Flores, two people that

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<v Speaker 2>I would not be here without, and Justin Spears in

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks guys, Thanks everybody,
