WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:21.640 Time you were listening to the Age of Transitions. I'm 2 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:25.719 your host, Aaron Franz, coming at you live this Friday night, 3 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:31.679 February twenty first, twenty twenty five. Live every Friday night 4 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:35.719 from the facilities of Ochilly dot Com ten pm to 5 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:39.759 midnight Eastern Standard Time. First hour is the Age of Transitions. 6 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.840 Second hour is Uncle the broadcast. But wait, tonight is 7 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:47.039 somewhat different. We're only doing one hour, so ten pm 8 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.840 to eleven pm Eastern Time, the Age of Transitions. No 9 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:55.359 Uncle Show. Uncle is actually on vacation and he's going 10 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:59.560 to be away this week and next week. We were 11 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:05.079 doing this show, well, not even last week. 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You helped keep the show going 34 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:42.159 and lots of interesting material there. I will say that 35 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.319 the most recent material I've been loading to the Patreon 36 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:48.039 are videos. I love how you can put videos directly 37 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:51.639 on Patreon. The functionality's gotten better at Patreon. I know 38 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:54.879 people have kind of maybe shied away from using it, 39 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:58.960 which is unfortunate because it's a better platform technically speaking 40 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:02.120 than it ever has in terms of for the creator side, 41 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:04.879 I'm able to load pretty much anything I want to 42 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.439 up to. Before it was very limited and that was 43 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:11.680 quite annoying. But I've been playing videos on there that 44 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:15.080 I got back in two thousand and nine at the 45 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.599 Singularity Summit that I attended in New York City. Me 46 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:24.520 and Carlos from trans Alchemy, we were working together at 47 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:28.039 the time on that blog. We went there and covered it, 48 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:33.479 got press pass, and we were primarily backstage in this 49 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:38.319 weird little room shooting interviews with various speakers and people 50 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.719 that just happened to be at the conference that were interesting. 51 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:43.560 So I'm going through all my tapes that I got 52 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:48.759 from that event and loading them unedited. I'm just playing 53 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:52.599 them directly, the unedited footage of the whole thing, and 54 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:56.120 posting it to my Patreon. That's where those That's the 55 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:57.719 only place you'll be able to get those varders. I'm 56 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:02.039 not really planning on doing anything else with those for 57 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:06.120 the foreseeable future, but I will say there's also the 58 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:08.800 affiliate ads on the Ature transitions dot com, so nobody 59 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:12.199 ever goes those anyway, but they're there. Back to the 60 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.840 two thousand and nine Singularity Summit, it was an historic event. 61 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:20.639 It truly was. It was one of those events that 62 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:26.800 very few people knew about, but it was important, and 63 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:32.120 the concepts and just the goings on around the conference 64 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:36.839 were just as important as, if not more so, than, 65 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:41.680 what was actually happening up on the podium with the speakers. 66 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:45.959 The topics that they were talking about, yes, were important, 67 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.360 but almost like the actual presentation of these topics and 68 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:54.600 who was doing it was at least equally as interesting. 69 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:59.639 I don't remember if I've told this story. I think 70 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:01.480 I told this story long ago on the show. But 71 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.879 I did arrive in New York City going to that. 72 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:12.720 I came in on a flight. This would have been 73 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.240 just when I had been living in California for a year, 74 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:17.680 so I had to fly out there. I'm trying to 75 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:19.519 remember all the ins and outs that I just know 76 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.800 that I came in on a flight and I was 77 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:25.439 waiting for Carlos to pick me up at I was 78 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.959 one of the New York airports. I think it was JFK. 79 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:32.160 I believe it was one of those ones. The GUARDI 80 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.720 or JFK is one of the two. I'm not so 81 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.839 familiar with those two. Have been to them, but not anyway. 82 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:41.879 I was outside waiting to be picked up. He was 83 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:43.920 taking a few minutes. You know, I was waiting outside 84 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:45.959 for a while. That's okay, you know, it was no 85 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.680 big deal. But as I was waiting out there with 86 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:55.399 my bags, who also walked out and was promptly picked up. 87 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:59.680 I will say, well, none other than Ray Kurtzwell. He 88 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.000 was out there. He got picked up by a nice 89 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:06.360 Lincoln Talent car. He got in and there's all sorts 90 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:08.519 of I feel like there was somebody else in the car. 91 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.639 Who else was in there? There's some of those other 92 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.040 nut jobs that were at the conference. But he got 93 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.600 picked up. He got with straight away, and he was 94 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:20.199 a speaker at that conference. You know, he's mister Singularity himself. 95 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.800 He's one of the big spokesmen, and to this day 96 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:28.519 he's working at Google in that capacity. Machine Machine Intelligence 97 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:32.920 Research Institute is the name of the group that put 98 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:36.639 on the Singularity Summit, and that exists to this day. 99 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:39.680 And then he's you know, got his job there at 100 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:46.839 Google and it's all connected. But the other big name 101 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.959 at Singularity Institute. And I did not get an interview 102 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.839 with Kurtzwell. I did not get an interview with Peter Deele. 103 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:57.759 Peter Deele was the he really stole the show. At 104 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:02.480 the two thousand and nine Singularity Summit, he did a 105 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:07.839 presentation about macroeconomics and let me see here, let's see 106 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:12.839 macroeconomics and singularity. It wasn't too long of a presentation. 107 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.720 He starts out asking the audience what they think, what 108 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.120 they're most worried about in the future, and he talks 109 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:26.319 about his general thesis is that the problem he foresees 110 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:31.079 is that the Singularity just won't happen fast enough, so 111 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:39.800 the arrival of superintelligence, of artificial general intelligence to reshape 112 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:45.839 the world is just going to get delayed too long 113 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.199 so that we can't make the progress that we need to. 114 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.399 And you know, there'll be we're gonna be in big 115 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:54.120 trouble because we did not do that. But you know, 116 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.079 he says all sorts of other interesting things throughout that 117 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:01.720 It's worth a watch. You can find it online. When 118 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.000 he was giving that speech, we were backstage interviewing somebody. 119 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:09.959 I remember somehow being on the side of the stage 120 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.560 as well, and Kurtzel was there looking over notes and 121 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:17.000 he was like kind of but then also Teal was there, 122 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.560 and I forget why. Just like for a minute, we 123 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:21.879 went to the side stage like on the side of 124 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:23.800 the stage where the presenters would be. For some reason, 125 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:27.639 I can't remember why this was, but Kurtzseel was there 126 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:31.800 looking at his notes. Thal was there surrounded by like 127 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.360 reporters hounding him with all these questions, and then he 128 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.240 basically like, Okay, I gotta get out of here, and 129 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.679 he left. So he was there, and that's all I 130 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.240 saw of him, and really of Kurtzwell too. I ain't 131 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:44.879 talk to either one of them. I just kind of sound, 132 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.000 you know, so whatever kind of thing. But that did happen, 133 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:50.600 the airport thing with Kurtzwell and then the side of 134 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.679 the stage, and then really what Carlos and I were 135 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:57.440 doing working those interviews, which again I will be loading 136 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:01.759 all those I might I really, if I get the time, 137 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.000 I will load another one this weekend. I want to 138 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.840 do that, so look for that. That might be what 139 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:11.240 I spend my time doing this weekend of the stream. 140 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.159 But that was the two thousand and nine Singularity Summit 141 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.840 at the ninety two hy in New York City. It's 142 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:27.120 the venue for that. Peter Thiel is an interesting person. 143 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:36.279 He's a libertarian, and I have made the point or 144 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:39.480 I said this on my ex account at friend simulation. 145 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:42.120 I think a week or two ago I made the 146 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:46.639 point that I believe he is the libertarian Peter Tel 147 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:53.120 And why is that? Well? I believe he's the libertarian 148 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:59.720 because if you look at him and everything he's involved 149 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:09.039 with and his philosophy, his political social ideology, philosophy, it 150 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:14.600 doesn't exactly jive and his frankly his business history. Right 151 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:18.960 that more than anything there doesn't exactly jive with what 152 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:23.679 I at least think of when I hear libertarianism as 153 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:29.559 a political movement. Now maybe I'm wrong about things, but 154 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:34.240 my general quick take on libertarianism is that, yes, you're 155 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:38.200 for limited government, right, Yeah, we all know that, but 156 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:42.960 you're also for freedom of the individual right and civil liberties. 157 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.360 I know that people make a distinction with like civil libertarian, 158 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:50.480 but for me, I hear libertarian and civil liberties are huge. 159 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:53.440 So you got people have to be able to do 160 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.600 and be free to do whatever they want essentially without 161 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:03.360 being worried about being punished by a government of any sort. Right. 162 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.399 And yes, that's my generic take on this limited government, 163 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:18.240 empower private enterprise, shy away from government whenever you can. 164 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.600 And so when I see Peter Thiel a guy that 165 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:27.639 has made his fortune in large part on government contracts, 166 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:36.720 and he has gotten himself inside the inside national intelligence 167 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:47.000 would Palenteer and all that huge government contracts at his 168 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:49.879 security clearances. He he must has a ridiculous amount of 169 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:52.840 security clearances. He is in there with the federal government, 170 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:56.440 and it's a big part of what made him who 171 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:59.399 he is. Yes, there's the PayPal thing, we know about that. 172 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:04.720 Yes there's the Facebook stuff and his investments with that 173 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:08.200 and everything else he has done to become the billionaire 174 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:13.960 that he is. But you know, for being mister limited government. 175 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:17.960 That's the thing with me. It's like, how what is 176 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:22.080 going on there? Like how does this square up exactly 177 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:32.039 for me? But what's interesting is to see not necessarily 178 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:42.080 libertarianism as a political ideal as a political party, but 179 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:52.200 the practical ways in which libertarian ideology and philosophy has 180 00:12:53.480 --> 00:13:00.000 grown and has changed. Certainly, it seems to have undergone 181 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:04.559 a few changes over the years that actually kind of 182 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:08.519 line up and makes sense with Peter Thiel and how 183 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:13.080 he might actually be a libertarian because the proper edits 184 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:17.840 have been made over time to the ideology. And you 185 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.960 can see this in the people claiming to be libertarians themselves, 186 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:31.279 posting all over social media. The concept of limited government 187 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:38.159 not strictly limited to libertarianism, but that has just a 188 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:44.559 general concept. The limited government idea fits in with all 189 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:48.360 sorts of different political groups, right, I mean, the Republican 190 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.519 Party is about limited government, you know, on their love 191 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:55.840 of Ronald Reagan and all of this and all of 192 00:13:55.879 --> 00:14:03.799 the all of the making for the Republican Party that 193 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:11.960 has undergone interesting changes over the years as well. And 194 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:16.840 I've commented time and time again over the years on 195 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:23.360 this show about the merge of the mainstream Republican Party 196 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:29.480 and the more fringe elements which would have included, yes, 197 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:38.840 libertarians and different independent people who are into the concept 198 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:41.840 of limited government and all this that have gotten their 199 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:47.679 ideas from alternative media online that has pushed these concepts 200 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:52.200 in a big way over at over a decade now, 201 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:55.480 it's been well over that amount of time where these 202 00:14:55.679 --> 00:15:00.200 general concepts have been being pushed over and over aga again, 203 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:06.000 and there's there's been changes and again ideas have been twisted, 204 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:10.759 and what was republican five ten years ago is not 205 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:14.399 what a Republican is now. But that's okay, And what 206 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.360 a libertarian is now is not what a libertarian would 207 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.639 have been five, ten, fifteen years ago. Again, my probably 208 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:24.960 not great definition of libertarianism at the start of this, 209 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:29.120 But it doesn't really matter what my definition of libertarianism is. 210 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:35.399 It just matters. What matters is the way that things 211 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:43.480 work out, the political realities that come to be, and 212 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:47.159 how have we gotten to the point where we are now? 213 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:56.639 How did such amazing ideological shifts happen in what was 214 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:01.360 a surprisingly short amount of time over this past decade 215 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:03.799 or so. If you have been paying attention, you have 216 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:11.960 noticed these changes. And I'm saying that it's not a 217 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:17.759 coincidence that these things have happened. I'm also saying that 218 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:23.240 these general concepts, these ideological these ideologies, these political stances 219 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:29.799 have been used to achieve very real political ends and 220 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:36.559 have gotten us to where we are now. There's a 221 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:41.240 very real technical side to how this all works, too, 222 00:16:41.399 --> 00:17:01.080 which revolves around information technology, internet, social media, analytics, surveillance data, 223 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.799 big data. Nobody really uses that term amore, but still 224 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:13.880 a very real thing. And there is a confluence of 225 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:18.920 this tech world and the political world. How do you 226 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:28.519 think political campaigns have been orienting themselves these past few 227 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:32.519 chaotic years and election cycles that each year gets crazier 228 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:39.000 and crazier, the red air, the rhetoric more fiery every year. 229 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:48.599 What was once very controversial now being used in presidential debates, 230 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.960 not just used by some candidate that's going to be 231 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.079 pushed out. Yeah, yeah, Okay, they'll say some crazy stuff 232 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:58.480 at an early debate, but don't worry. That candidate won't 233 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.279 be back for the later the next debate, the next 234 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:05.519 televised debate, we will weeded that candidate out and it 235 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:07.920 will be a smaller group of maybe four of them 236 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:09.759 there are left that crazy guy's I could be eight 237 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:14.279 there anymore. No, things have changed quite a bit. The 238 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:20.359 crazy guy has become the winner. Do you think that 239 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:23.440 is on accident? Do you think that's just happened. Do 240 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.160 you think we've won? That's a good question. Do you 241 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:31.119 believe that we the alternative community, those that are championing freedom, 242 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.680 those are championing limited government, those are championing any idea 243 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:42.400 that we fall into this general category which seems unfair 244 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:46.079 to be generalized and to be wishy washy and sort 245 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:50.359 of gray and not noncommittal. I'm not committing to like 246 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:54.799 this is libertarianism. This isn't Republicans, this is not the Republicans, 247 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.480 it's not the Libertarians, it's not this or that thing. 248 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.160 Because this is the way it works, everything just amalgamates 249 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:09.559 into this gray area where you can't even tell what 250 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.839 the connections are and why everything has lined up the 251 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.079 way it has. But I can tell you it has 252 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:19.480 for a very real reason. This did not just happen overnight. 253 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:22.079 This has been going on for years. It was not 254 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:29.160 by accident. Social media was set up to gather data 255 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:33.720 on its users. It does that. That is business model. 256 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.240 Is the data We've heard, I mean you've probably heard 257 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.680 this a million times over and over again that in 258 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:42.119 this information age, data is they liken it to like 259 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.000 the new oil. They call it a resource. It is 260 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:48.960 a resource. It is an asset. It has value. That 261 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:55.000 is the value that is extracted from these platforms is 262 00:19:55.039 --> 00:20:00.559 the data that is gathered on the users, and it's sold. 263 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:08.039 Data is bought and sold that is collected from social 264 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:12.480 media use. And that's you know, the terms of service. 265 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:15.759 You sign away your right to do that. And I'm sure, 266 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:17.079 I mean I don't have to sit up here and 267 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.119 tell you about that. I think everybody is as common 268 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:23.000 knowledge now, so we know that's been going on and 269 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:28.440 it's sold to all sorts of different buyers. Back to 270 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:32.839 the political campaigns, how do you think it is that 271 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:44.759 they get the topics that they infuse into their candidates platform? 272 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:50.759 How do you think different political platforms are orchestrated and 273 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:59.640 put together. Do you think that perhaps data Do you 274 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:04.640 think maybe political parties could be buyers of data from 275 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:09.559 when it's out on that marketplace, the social media, when 276 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:15.200 they sell it to bidders or political campaigns buying that data. 277 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:21.839 Who are the donors to these campaigns that come from 278 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:25.079 out of nowhere? Where did that guy come from? Wha 279 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:27.440 what was he saying yesterday? I don't know, but he's 280 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:31.920 saying the opposite thing today. Who put him up there? 281 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:33.720 Where did the guy? Where does this guy get his 282 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:43.119 money to run for office? It comes from the people 283 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:55.000 who brought you these wonderful technological toys, these social media platforms. Really, 284 00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:00.519 the whole of what online life is today is brought 285 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:05.880 to you by the same people that are funding oh 286 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:08.720 so many things that we're not even privy to. We 287 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:15.759 can't even know all the donations and funding of what's 288 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:20.319 going on out there. However, if you are paying attention, 289 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:24.920 you know, and you see, you see the connections, you 290 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:31.000 see how you've seen these changes. That are a good 291 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.079 way to come at it is to analyze where we 292 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.759 are now, what people are saying, and even go back 293 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.519 in the wayback machine again a decade is a good 294 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.480 way to do it. And these people that are screaming 295 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:51.079 mostly in support of our wonderful leadership. Now, those that 296 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:57.000 are who are the loudest, most gung ho supporters for 297 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:04.160 what's happening to our fe government mainly through the executive branch, 298 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:09.200 a lot of supporters for that, the loudest ones, go 299 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:13.519 back ten years and see what they were saying. You 300 00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:16.599 might find some contradictions to what they're saying is a 301 00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:22.000 good idea today Again, we live in a world of 302 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.200 contradictions where somebody presents themselves a certain way and then 303 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.119 they go a complete opposite direction and it doesn't make sense, 304 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:31.960 does it? Or does it? 305 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:33.519 Nope? 306 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:34.839 Chuck, I hear you. What's going on? 307 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:35.200 Yeah? 308 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:37.960 I just wanted to quickly ask you a question that 309 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.599 because I've done some interviews on a couple of other 310 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:45.079 platforms this past ten days or so, and I keep 311 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:50.119 asking this question that makes everybody stammer, oh boy, I. 312 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:51.720 Can't wait to hear what it is. I really don't 313 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:53.079 know what it is. I haven't heard it, Chuck, what 314 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:53.720 we got? 315 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:54.359 Oh, it's great. 316 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:55.160 It relates to you. 317 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:57.400 And I know you haven't been listening to my guest 318 00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:59.519 appearances because I haven't really pushed them all that hard 319 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:01.960 because recording stuff, I don't know when they're airing it. 320 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:05.119 You know, it's a big thing. So outside of Richie Allen, 321 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:10.599 which was live, I keep asking this question to people 322 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:13.680 that are happy with what they see right now, right 323 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:16.880 because I remember that ten years back, and I remember 324 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:18.359 twenty years back erin you. 325 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:22.519 Know, yeah, yeah, good, keep going, Uck, keep going, because 326 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:24.279 it's worth it to do that. 327 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.839 And I recall that a lot of the people that 328 00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:29.720 you know, a lot of people that have voices today 329 00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:34.319 didn't voice anything back then. True, okay, but those that did, 330 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.559 those that did exist, even if they were just frustrated 331 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.559 facebookers and they couldn't figure out YouTube. Yet now it's 332 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:43.519 gotten easier. They everybody's got a podcast. Everybody and their 333 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:47.799 mama got a podcast, right at least for a little while. 334 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:49.839 And if they don't have a podcast, they got a channel. 335 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:54.000 Somewhere they're on X Live. But they're doing something. But 336 00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:56.160 the thing is a whole lot of people who were 337 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.720 saying the technocracy is going to take us sober. We 338 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.079 are human beings, we deserve to exist. It was linked 339 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:06.559 into the libertarian thing. It was linked into all those 340 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:12.680 It's funny they're celebrating as Peter tele and the holders 341 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:15.880 of about eighty percent of social media in the English 342 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:20.759 speaking world anyway, all stood on stage with Donald Trump. Yes, 343 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.240 and every one of them, in one way or another, 344 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:27.079 says now things are better. Now, things are better. Now, 345 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:29.720 things are gonna get better. And these are people that 346 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.160 are supposedly out there analyzing stuff. They're supposedly part of 347 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:36.079 the old media, that those that want to still claim 348 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:40.720 the old crown. And yet they're happy with this. And 349 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:43.920 a few years ago and ten years ago, for sure, 350 00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.799 if they had a voice at all, they were worried 351 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.279 about this happening. They would not have wanted a guy 352 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:58.440 like Elon Musk loose on anything. Peter Teal is there 353 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.759 with them now, he's one of the names. Kurzwell, the singularity. 354 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:07.119 They're gonna turn us into robots, Oh my god. And 355 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.680 now they're like, but Trump's there and Musk is there. 356 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:11.680 It's all good, and. 357 00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:17.480 They are speaking loudly for not themselves. Okay, I don't 358 00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:19.720 know what their mentality is. I'm not gonna sit here 359 00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.559 and psychoanalyze it. But I'm very confused as I as 360 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.119 I think I'm hearing you be confused by this problem. 361 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.839 So the question is what made them change sides on 362 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:35.039 the technocracy? That was That was my question, basically, because 363 00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:38.160 they did, and they all did, and I don't know 364 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:42.559 why nobody's questioning this. Yeah, But the weirdest part of it, 365 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:44.359 and this is the addendum I gotta give to you. 366 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.240 Pin that question and just tell me what made them 367 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.799 switch sides? Please, outside of now my guy is in there. 368 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:54.119 See when I thought it was a liberal crazy thing 369 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:55.920 and it was gonna take away our ability to be 370 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:59.480 male or female. Therefore I was, I was it was problematic. 371 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.200 But since we're still going to be men and women 372 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:04.200 because Trump declared it, it's okay. We can now go 373 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:08.960 into the singularity, all right. But the weirdest thing is 374 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.319 that they would not have wanted the billionaires to be 375 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.200 in control of our lives. They wouldn't have wanted and 376 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.720 they newly meant to Trump as a billionaire before he 377 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.759 went into office. They made sure of it with his 378 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.160 crypto and all that too. You know, so this whole 379 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:27.039 twisted world is now okay, and I can't figure it out. 380 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.799 I can't figure out what switch got flipped here because 381 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:35.559 something happened. But anyway, on top of that this, you know, 382 00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:37.839 the new media out there, I want to know what 383 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.680 victory feels like, because I am finding the people that 384 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.640 they're really speaking for are the most ignorant on the planet. 385 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:49.400 They are the people who are approaching me right now. 386 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.200 And it doesn't matter if it's the guide delivering stuff 387 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.480 to my house or it's people emailing me, It doesn't matter. 388 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.480 Aren't you happy now that one of two questions RFK 389 00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:06.039 is in there, right, He's done a lot already, You're happy, right? 390 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.240 Or they released all the JFK stuff now, aren't you 391 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:16.400 happy now? Neither one of these have taken hold. Neither 392 00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.000 one of these have materialized. None of this has actually 393 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:25.680 happened outside of proclamations, declarations, posts on social media. And 394 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:28.480 we're doing this, we're doing that. We can't give you 395 00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:31.200 the numbers, no particulars, and we're doing stuff. 396 00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:31.799 Yay. 397 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.480 And I've got a chainsaw on stage at seapack and 398 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.440 I'm Elon Musk, and don't worry about my monkey like 399 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.519 child on my shoulders as I try to speak to you. 400 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.079 And no, I'm not in charge of dose, but I'm 401 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:43.759