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Speaker 1: All right, folks, if you're into thermography and you want

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to be a certified therminal electrician, there are certain calculators

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that we have created for your use that are going

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to set you apart from everybody else. Let's get into

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that in this episode and find out which calculators can

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help you the best.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Master of the NEEC podcast, the ultimate

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destination for anyone passionate about the electrical trade. Whether you're

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a season electrician, an eager apprentice, or just someone who

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wants to dive deep into the world of electrical work,

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you've come to the right place. Join your host, Paul Abernavi,

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a true authority in the industry with over thirty eight

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years of trade experience, as he electrifies your mind within

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depth discussions, expertips, and valuable insights.

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Speaker 3: That will keep you ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 2: Each episode, Paul will illuminate the complexities of the trade,

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decode the national electrical Code, and share the latest industry trends,

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all while empowering you to take your electrical career to

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the next level. So gear up, plug in, and get

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ready to supercharge your knowledge. Because with the Master the

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NEEC Podcast, the power is in your hands. Now get ready.

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Here is your host, Paul Abernavi's.

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Speaker 3: What up, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Master the NEC, the podcast

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where I talk about all things electrical doesn't matter. In fact,

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today we're going to be talking about thermography and various

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calculators that we've created for the use of electrical thermal

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imaging and a little bit about each one and how

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you can use them, and they're available over on our

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website Thermal Electrician dot com. Now you might say, look,

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I already do thermal imaging.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 1: We have some tools for you, and you may already

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be certified, but you're going to see a big trend

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moving towards thermal imaging and for those that are electricians,

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being able to become a Certified Thermal Electrician or a

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CTE is going to get more and more important as

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we partner with some industry leaders, for example Milese, who

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is making some amazing sets of thermal imaging cameras and

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they they're definitely a leader in that area of development

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and they're worldwide, I mean they do they produce these

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cameras as well as other measuring devices all over the world.

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And we've partnered with them, and we're excited about that,

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and so you know, there's a reason for it, and

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there's a reason we really sought this kind of collaboration

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in partnership to be able to merge the two companies

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into the.

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Speaker 3: Educational wing and the product wing.

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Speaker 1: And we definitely know that they have the best thermal

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imaging cameras, especially the most affordable for what they bring

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to the industry, and we're gonna be talking about that

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in upcoming videos that we're gonna be doing here in

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the next couple weeks. We're gonna be talking about that.

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The TR twenty pro which is my go to in

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the field. I wish I had it years ago. And

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then of course we have a three eighty four c

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which is an amazing thermal imaging camera with some amazing

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features like Wi Fi and you can actually send it

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to another camera to have a third party reviewing it

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on a larger screen. It's just some great features that

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are built into it camera. And again the TR twenty

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pros has dual cameras so you can get a visible

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as well as the IR image. Anyway, great stuff. We're

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gonna be going over all of that down the road

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in that type of thing. So so it's one of

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those things that we you know, we're going to produce

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those things and make them available to people. Okay, that's

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what we're we're going to try to do, all right,

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So all right, without further ado, let's get into it today.

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Speaker 3: What we're gonna be talking about.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever, as an electrician or somebody using a

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thermal imaging camera stood in front of a piece of

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equipment that's energized and wonder to yourself, am I actually

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measuring what I think I'm measuring? If that's ever run

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through your head, or you see these videos and these

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things of people using thermal imaging cameras and you watch

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it and you'll even see some electricians promoting it on

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social media, and they only just talk about the colors, right,

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hot spots and all these type of things. And at

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the end of the day, you can tell by the

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way they discuss it that they really probably don't use

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it day in and day out or understand things in

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the field like how reflection can affect the total output

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or distance. It's extremely important to understand the distance and

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you're measuring distance and the limitations. I've seen people hold

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things at vast distances and they don't understand that these

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have to be aware of these limitations. And if you're

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not educated on them, you're just buying a toy and

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it's just a toy. It doesn't do anything for you.

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to your existing portfolio, and whether you're doing it at

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a very small level and residential to give a service

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understand it, you're just spending money, right, valuable money.

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Speaker 3: So you have to understand how to use these.

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Speaker 1: So what this episode we're going to try to do

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is is kind of introduce you to explaining the problems

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of unit confusion, distance errors and missivity mistakes and kind

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of misleading images. But that's why thermal cameras don't make

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you a professional decision making does learning how to interpret

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what you see. That's going to be the difference, right,

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made claims and maybe haven't come back to backfire on you.

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this piece of equipment, or this is about to go

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and or this is you know, this is just a

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ticking time bomb. In reality, it's very hard for us

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as an electrical thermographer to make those claims. All we

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can do is kind of lead them down a path

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and monitor and there's some signs that we can look for,

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but you've got to be very careful. And so there

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are a lot of people out there, and I've got

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some examples of some articles that people put out on

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social media and other things like LinkedIn which they held

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themselves off as experts.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of experts for everything, but the information

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they were given wasn't accurate. And so it's really important

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with us is when we partner with a major manufacturer

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of thermal imaging cameras, and we are going to be

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the technical training aspect of it that you understand that

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we want to go very deep into the product and

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its use so that you totally understand how to use it.

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something and make informed decisions to educate your client. And

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one of the big advantages to thermal imaging that people

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want to talk about is preventative maintenance and ongoing monitoring

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in documenting it properly and how to set up your

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camera and how to do this so it's repetitive every

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three months, six months, eight months, twelve months, however you

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set your plan up so it's really important. Okay, So

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that's kind of some of the stuff we want to

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talk about today a little bit. Okay, Number one, let's

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talk about this the real problem in the field. We're

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going to talk about the cameras reported. A lot of

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times people get confused is that they have cameras and

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they report in meters, and the electricians we think in feet.

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Speaker 1: Imperial and you're dealing with products that typically are made overseas,

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so they're going to come in metric and obviously that

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is sometimes harder. A lot of the machines don't change that.

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in feet, okay, And then there's a temperature deal where

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a lot of places in the world use celsius. We

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typically want to have it in fahrenheit. Right, So you're

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going to be making changes in your unit to make

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sure that you're getting something and it is consistently replicable

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every time you use it. Now, technicians not understanding the

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spot size, the pixel resolution, and the distance effects when

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they try to take a reading can get some very

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misleading information and they don't understand the importance of how

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their thermal imaging camera works. Right, So why misinterpretation causes

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again wrong severity calls? Right, So there can be false alarms,

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there can be missed failures, there can be loss of

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customers trust because they literally don't understand what your camera

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is telling you. Right, And it's not as easy as

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people think. I mean, you just look at an image

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and you think that's it. It tells a story. Well,

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it tells you colors, it tells you patterns, it tells

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you palettes, it tells you hot spots. But is that

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spot too hot or is that typical under a load condition.

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Speaker 3: And so at the end of the day, nothing's gonna

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trump knowledge.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're trying to spit out to you,

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and that's what our programs do. We try to spit

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out that knowledge so that you can go into this.

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practicing and looking at images, even googling images and online

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and find images and use somebody else's images and try

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to translate what may be going on. All that stuff

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is just gonna make you better. Okay, it's just gonna

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make you better. Obviously every piece of equipment is different.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into this. Why do we create these calculators?

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Why do they exist?

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Speaker 1: Why do we put them on our websites and create

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mobile apps for thermal electricians or certified thermal electricians. Why

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do we do this and not just for our program

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but make them available to other folks over at thermal

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electrician dot com if you're into thermal imaging again.

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Speaker 3: Because you know, our courses teach you to.

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Speaker 1: Understand things like the delta tea and the peer review

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and emissivity and all these types of things. But at

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the end of the day, sometimes you need calculators that

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can make life a little easier in the field when

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you got all these numbers to deal with. And so

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we create these calculators, and we're also creating mobile apps

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that actually make it very easy to get to these

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different calculators and guides and things like that on our

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websites but through our mobile apps. So we don't build

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these just for academics, right, just so we could build

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these things. No, we build these because electricians that are

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doing thermography in the field, they need answers now, not

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Google searches. Okay, now you could be using trade hog

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if you don't know what trade is. It's the world's

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first and by far more superior. In fact, I got

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something the other day from somebody that says that NFPA

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had something in link that was an AI model and

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it wasn't even close to being as good as ours,

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and it can't be because of how we develop our model.

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Trade hog is just the most advanced AI tool. Why

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pay the money if you're in the trade Why pay

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the money for chat GPT.

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Speaker 3: When you can get.

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Speaker 1: Trade hog and get the best of everything plus have

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it tailored to your business. We have what's called the

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office Hog, and we have what's the trade Hog, and

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soon we'll be adding the Crazy Hog, which is basically

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just like a regular chat GPT.

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Speaker 3: You can ask it anything, that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: But that's being launched very soon and it's going to

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be available to those that are in the basic and

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the premium level, not the light level, but the basic

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and premium, so they get it. It's just say, no

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other reason why you don't need to pay that monthly

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use and being very concise. So again they're just another

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model out there. We just we have our own model,

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and there's another model, and ours just uses many, many,

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many other inputs, not just values from chat GPT, but

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other things prompts that we put in data that we upload,

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so it's constantly evolving. So so there are places that

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you can ask many, many different types of questions. But

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geared towards the level one because again we're very specific

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to electricians. You need those questions answered. In a lot

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of times, it's distance that you're worried about in understanding

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severity and the different levels of that. And we create

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these calculators, in these tools resources to help you constantly.

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And that's just what we do. Nobody else does it

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like that. I don't know any other certification program that

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offers the tools that we offer, even if you're not

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in our program. Okay, So it's just it's just an

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Speaker 1: I build them because electricians need them. They need those answers, now, okay,

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uh and so that's why we do it.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of guides, there's a bunch of other

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but we're just gonna talk about a few of them today.

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Speaker 1: So the first calculator that I will talk about today

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is our meters to feet and inches converter. This may

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sound like a simple tool. If you're out there and

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you know how to convert meters into feet and inches, okay,

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from metrics to imperial. If you already know that, then

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this is you know, this is just a convenient tool.

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the thermal cameras today are create or built overseas. Okay,

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they just have the technology and it can do the production,

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and they've gotten so good now and they're the reason

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why cameras have dropped from twenty thousand dollars now down

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to affordable. That makes it a no brainer for your

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your whole crew to have their own camera. Why well,

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most of these cameras have an output in their distances meters.

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Speaker 1: The temperature fahrenheit and cels here, which we'll talk about

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in a minute, you really in many cases can't change

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the output in meters. And it's important because you need

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to understand distances. And when you're measuring a lux temperature

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versus a piece of gear a motor, there's different distances

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that are extremely important. In fact, it's a good opportunity

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underneath the main home screen. You click home, you'll see

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a drop down and you'll see a link that says blogs.

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We write a lot of blogs on all kinds of topics,

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and many of you out there probably don't do blogs.

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We spend a lot of time creating these blogs, and

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they're educational blogs, unlike the blogs that we may have

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on other sites that we produce. As you'll know Electrical

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Code Academy, we have the exam prep electrician courses, training, grounding,

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and bonding. But this division that deals with thermography for electricians.

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Speaker 3: All of the.

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Speaker 1: Blogs and articles that we write are very informative and

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they've been vetted very well. They're tailed around what you

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need to know in this profession. If you're an electrician

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you want to add thermography to your scope, you need

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to read these, You need to understand and bookmarket because

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we're always coming up with new blogs and so you

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definitely want to be abreast of them when they come out.

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But there's a great article that I wrote. They're about

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understanding distances and the importance of distances when it comes

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to things like lugs and motors and housings and all

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these type of things. So it's very beneficial. But one

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of the things that we do is realize that sometimes

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on the fly we need an easy way to convert.

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your camera maates say point three or three point zero meters,

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but you just can't equate that in your head two

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inches in feet. And that can be important, especially when

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because it'll give you recommended distances for taking certain readings

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and then how to quantify those readings. A lot of

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people think that it's just you can do thermal imaging

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at an infinite distance and get accurate readings. That's just

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not the case. You'll get images, but you won't get

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what you need to be accurate. And that's the key here, right.

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Anybody can just throw images, but we want accuracy. So

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we created a quick calculator, a quick tool that will

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do that. And again the reason for that is because

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the vast majority of the thermal cameras are going to

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give you an output in meters, and we want to

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translate that into what people are used to seeing because

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electricians we think feet, we think inches, even when we

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use the National Electrical Code and we know that it's

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got a metric in it and it's got the imperial

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feet and inches and things like that. We do not

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use millimeters and meters, even though they're in the code,

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and it's just not something that we're accustomed to. So

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rather than make a mistake in misjudged distances, and at

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the end of the day, what we train you in

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a lot of these course material as well as in

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our blogs, is that distance really matters because it corrupts

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what we call the spot size in the temperature accuracy

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if your distance is off. So create understanding the distances accurately.

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going to ask you to put in a certain distance,

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you need to make sure that you're putting it in accurately,

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and so creating a simple tool for that just keeps

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it just reduces the mistakes.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: The next one was a very simple temperature tool. I'm

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sure you have. This is probably on your phone. You

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probably already have it, but we wanted to put it

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in a place where it's just easy. Is understanding celsius

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to fahrenheit converter, you know, global camera firmware versus us reporting.

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celsius to fahrenheit in the system itself. But again it

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eliminates this this math equation that can cause a problem

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if you don't understand it. So we just create a

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simple tool to make it easier for you to be

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able to do that.

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Speaker 3: And it's just makes life a little easier to have

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that tool. Right.

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Speaker 1: So the next one we have is a spot size

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and distance ratio calculator.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You know why is this important? Well, to be honest

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with you, distance is everything, and the further you move

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away from from a from something you're measuring is the

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results start to get more suspect, and so you move

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closer to quantify your results, obviously staying within the safe

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working environment following ppe if you know that, you need

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to follow. But distance is everything and understand how to

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set your thermal imaging camera correctly for the distance that

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you're working with is so important so this calculator is

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how to calculate. It prevents false conclusions and other words,

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it kind of lets you readjust to reevaluate your distances

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based on the spot size. Maybe you're doing a small

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lug and you want to make sure that you're really

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focusing on this lug or this termination, and so again,

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distance is everything. We have a neat little article that

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explains that over in our blogs as well for those

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that are confused by a spot sizing and distance ratio

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and all this kind of stuff. But we give you

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a nifty little calculator that allows you to be able

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to do that. Okay, Also we have I should mention

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we also have a toolbox.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I've mentioned that forwards.

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but one of them is a nifty little toolbox with

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a opacity calculator, emissivity calculator, adjustment tool that'll kind of

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help you pick the right emissivity value depending on what

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you're looking at, because remember that can change whether or

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not it's a core, you know, kind of a oxidized

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copper bus versus a regular copper bus, versus an aluminum

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versus oxidized aluminum versus plastic, you know, insulation, black tape,

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things like that. It all changes, and all of this

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can can affect the outcome. So again, when people think

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of just buying a thermal imaging camera and they get

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out there into the field and they just start shooting

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this on things, they get values. And if they're basing

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a report on these values, and these values aren't very accurate,

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somebody could step in and create problems. So you want to,

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you know, cross all your t's, dot all your eyes

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and understand.

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Speaker 3: What these things like emissivity mean.

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you is that if you have improper emissivity and you

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don't understand it thoroughly, your results can be as much

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as ten twenty thirty or even forty degrees fahrenheit off

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in error than what it actually is. And that's the

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difference between somebody saying, hey, this is something you need

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to monitor, or this is something that needs to be

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corrected right away. There's a big difference, Okay, big huge difference.

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you start diving in and if you don't understand how

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to set the distance, how to do emissivity, if you

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don't understand reflection, if you don't understand these things, well

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you're gonna get a reading. You're gonna get a value,

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but it doesn't mean squat because it's not an accurate number.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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in the toolbox that's on our website. Okay, So that's

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you know, that's just one of those things that we

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want to that we want to help you with is

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making sure that you can get that.

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Speaker 3: In fact, give you a quick let me give you

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a quick kind of a rundown, real quick.

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Speaker 1: So let me see here a real quick rundown of

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what we've got here for you.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: When you go to our website thermal Electrician dot com,

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you're going to see a home tab, You're going to

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see a resources tab, you're going to see a calculator tab.

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All of those have little arrows on it that means

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there's a drop down, that means there's something underneath it. Now,

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if you're on a mobile device, it'll beat a little

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three little hamburgers, But once you click that, you will

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see it and you'll see that there's little arrows and

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there's things underneath it. So that's the kind of the

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structure that we've set up. Now under the home you're

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going to see that we have the thermal blogs.

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Speaker 3: Encourage you to read those blogs.

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Speaker 1: Because they're very informative and you're going to learn something,

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I promise you. But under the resources, you're going to

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see that there is a long list of resources. There's

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the thermal toolbox right which I told you about. The

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thermal toolbox that's going to have the severate ty and

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delta T. This is very important to understand that you

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have two different temperatures and how you're going to determine

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what the delta T is because this is where you're

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gonna be making decisions as a three phase calculator. Again,

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emissivity helper that helps you pick the right setting. There's

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some capacity vaults that's drop and there's even a report

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software so if you want to use our software to

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create your reports in the field. There's a nifty one

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on there as well, so I get that's given to you.

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That's a resource. But if you go down the list,

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you're going to see that we have an IR Windows

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selection helper. And this is important because some people go

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to projects where you can't get into the equipment, so

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you're going to use a viewing window. And so again

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you have to understand that there's a distance requirement that

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you need to know not only the distance from the

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equipment to the viewing window, but also to your equipment.

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And so this is where you got to plug in

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the right values. Okay, so we give you that a

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helper tool. We have an ARC fault risk score analyzer,

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again understanding the risk you're associating with.

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Speaker 1: We have a thermal trend comparatoire, which is load normalization

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means you can you can put in loading information. It

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can tell you keep you on a long term basis.

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It allows you to monitor the load. So this is

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part of preventative maintenance and ongoing monitoring. We give you

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that little tool. It's pretty cool. We give you a

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reflected apparent temperature called an RAT quick tool. Again, that

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is an amazing little tool because you'll able to put

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in various values. Don't know how often you'll use it,

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but you enter your crumpled foil reflected reading to store

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the RAT value for the camera software settings.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you aim the camera. It's it's kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: You aim the camera at a crumpled piece of tinfoil

480
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like a like a like aluminum foil. Okay, uh, and

481
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you place it the target angle in location, and you

482
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take the ambient temperature that type of thing, and all

483
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this episode it's it's it's kind of neat. I don't

484
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know how many people use that, but it's called a

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reflective Apparent Temperature r a T tool.

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Speaker 3: That type of thing, So it's available. I don't know

487
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how many people would.

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Speaker 1: Use that one, but it's there for you if you

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want to use that. And just one more tool, we

490
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have what's called anymissivity helper and a confidence meter. Right again,

491
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this is similar to the other. You pick from a

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list and it'll give it'll give you. For example, I

493
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just I just pick a numberlets and you can do

494
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custom yourself as electrical tape, which is typically a messivity

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of a point ninety five okay uh. In the distance,

496
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let's say I'm measuring the I'm going to be doing

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this ato point three meters and if you're angle, I'm

498
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gonna try to stay close to a probably like a

499
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forty five degree angle, right, And so when you do

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you do that and you selected a point ninety five

501
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moderate good conditions for reliable comparative thermography reading. So it's

502
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about an eighty percent score standard practice, right, So that's good.

503
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Now that's the distance. When you change the distance, longer

504
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distance means more atmosphere plus a smaller target pixel. Okay,

505
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So again it all is going to change depending on

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you how your angle now angle of view, the degrees

507
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is going to change. It should yield a higher confidence

508
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score means it's a good condition because you don't want

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to keep going too much an angle from the target.

510
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So you know, there's a sweet spot in there, and

511
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this helper kind of gives you that sweet spot. It

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kind of helps you get your confidence up in your

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reading that type of thing. So, for example, if I

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were to take electrical tape and have it on a

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piece of equipment, an emissivities as zero point ninety five

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and my distance is say point three, you know, and

517
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it's a viewing angle of ten degrees, then the confidence

518
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score of the reading that I'm getting is about a

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ninety two percent and that is very.

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Speaker 3: Good, okay. So it's just you know, some things that

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help you in your confidence with your the values that

522
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you're getting. Okay, that's all it is is.

523
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Speaker 1: We create these tools to try to help make sure

524
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you get your confidence up as you're doing these.

525
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Speaker 3: Uh.

526
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Speaker 1: There's also a tool called the loose connection loss estimator.

527
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That's I screate our estimator. So you put your current

528
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amps in there, you add any resistance and millions okay,

529
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and then of course thee hours per day energy costs,

530
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and it will basically estimate the watts loss and annual

531
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costs calls by adding resistance that is loose, oxidize or

532
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undertorque connections.

533
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Speaker 3: Okay.

534
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Speaker 1: Great for explaining the impact to the customer of it. Again,

535
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you just can't make up a number, right, You just

536
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can't make up a number. You have to come up

537
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with some clear value. So I need to know what

538
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,839
the killo OOP per hour charges. I need to know

539
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,440
the number of days hours per day that it runs.

540
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,799
I need to know what the resistance is in milliums.

541
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So I'm gonna have to take a reading. Okay, So

542
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:27,519
again you have to have the numbers. You know, they

543
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,160
all saying, crap in, crap out. You got to know

544
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your numbers in order. But we create the calculators to

545
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try to make life a little easier for you. And

546
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then we have what's called a temperature rise versus load estimator.

547
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Now this estimates severity based on temperature rise that's the

548
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:51,160
delta t and approximate. Approximate what it might look like

549
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:56,400
at one hundred percent loaded. Useful for consistent triage in

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the field. So you give it an ambient temperature, you

551
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measure the component that you're measuring, the hot spot, whatever

552
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,960
it is that you got on your thermal imaging camera.

553
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,960
You put that in there. You know load at the

554
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time of the scan. Okay, if it's unknown, the best

555
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,720
estimate is minimum one percent. But again, uh it's if

556
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you don't know. But if you do know what the

557
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,640
loading is, put it in there and then determine what

558
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,880
the conductor or the connection is, whether it's copper or aluminum,

559
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that type of thing.

560
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Speaker 3: And it's going to give you some value. So there's

561
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there's a bunch of those in there.

562
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Speaker 1: But where it really starts to get in some of

563
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,519
these calculators, and that's where you have the meter to

564
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:35,920
feet an inches calculator. We have a very extensive voltage

565
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,599
drop calculator that allows you to do parallel sets. Many

566
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,160
voltage drop calculators out there don't let you do parallel sets.

567
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,079
We have one that's designed for that. The other one,

568
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like I said, is the spot size and Distance calculator.

569
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Speaker 3: That's the FOV based.

570
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Speaker 1: We have a three phase imbalance calculator voltage or current.

571
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:57,720
We have a breaker conductor load percentage calculator. We have

572
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:01,440
a Kwa kava and power factor calculator. And we have

573
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:05,559
what's called a payback ROI calculator for repair versus loss.

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So this allows you to see how long it will

575
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take you if you have to make a repair, how

576
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:14,880
long it will take you to fix that to recoup

577
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,680
your money the return on investment for that repair. Is

578
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,519
it something that needs to be done immediately or is

579
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:21,960
it something that you can do down the road, or

580
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,319
how long will it cost you? Like if it's going

581
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to cost me fifteen thousand dollars to fix something and

582
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:31,279
because of the issue, it maybe's costing us two hundred

583
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,160
and fifty dollars a day or one hundred dollars a

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day or whatever. Based on the other calculations that we've

585
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done based on resistance, you got to know the values.

586
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Speaker 3: You just can't pull a number from anywhere.

587
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,799
Speaker 1: But it at least gives you a tool that you

588
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:45,079
can plug in some numbers and get an understanding. If

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00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:48,000
we know the kilowod hours and we know what the

590
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:50,359
load is and we can calculate that out, we can

591
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,920
come up with the cost factor for that load. Now

592
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,160
you plug it in, and now if it's costing you money,

593
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,839
at least you can plug it in and get some

594
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960
kind of values that can share with your customer. But again,

595
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,359
you're just not trying to sell them snake oil here.

596
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:07,279
It's not how it works. Okay, So there's just quite

597
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,240
a few things on our website. Now look for these

598
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:17,920
things to also end up in your mobile app, which

599
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,920
means that you can just click on it and boom,

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bring it right up on your mobile app.

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Speaker 3: It just makes life a little easier for you down

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00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:25,119
the road.

603
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: And that will only be available to a certified thermal electrician.

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That will not be available to anybody else the mobile version.

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So you got to be a certified thermal electrician to

606
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,559
get our mobile app. And it means that many of

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00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:45,079
these free calculators online will eventually go away once that

608
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,519
mobile app is launched because again we don't mind bringing

609
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making them available to people. But at the end of

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the day, we create these things for our certified thermal electricians.

611
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:58,240
And it doesn't matter if you're already a thermographer, you're

612
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:02,240
already a professional that does this, and you're adding our certification.

613
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,680
If you're an electrician, you're just adding it to your resume.

614
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,480
That's it, and you'll probably learn something that you didn't

615
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:14,760
understand about electricity or about the NEC or the application

616
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,400
that we're going to teach you in the program. And

617
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,079
of course I'm always here. We also have our own

618
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:24,760
message board which has a separate forum just for electrical

619
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,239
thermographers that are in our program, so you can go there,

620
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,480
post your questions, post your images, all that type of thing,

621
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:36,239
and more than happy to respond to that. All right,

622
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all right, folks, that's pretty much it for this episode.

623
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I hope you got something out of it. For those

624
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:44,079
out there that say, Paul, what happened to your exam prep, Well,

625
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,079
we do a lot of stuff here, but you know,

626
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:52,079
thermography and for electricians and the certified Thermal Electrician is

627
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,360
a big thing for us, and we're teaching a lot

628
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,199
of people how to add thermography to their current scope

629
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:02,119
of business and then make those that do it just

630
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:05,239
a little bit better. Okay, so check out our website.

631
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,039
Look at all the links, read the articles, read the blogs.

632
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,039
People say, well, how does it compare to a level

633
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,159
one in you know thermography course?

634
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,119
Speaker 3: Go read it. We have a blog on that.

635
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: We meet all the equal standards to that. There is

636
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,039
no licensing for that. But you're already electrician, so you've

637
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,119
got that covered. We just teach you how to do

638
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,719
it and that type of thing. So it's all available.

639
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,960
Check it out at thermal electrician dot com. Check it

640
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,320
out even if you're just curious, give it a look.

641
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,519
See and maybe you have a question. Maybe you're like, well,

642
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,679
I'm just a residential guy. How is this can how

643
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:42,559
can this help me on a residential project? Well, it

644
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,360
most certainly can, and we can teach you why and

645
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,360
how and when to do it? All right, all right, folks,

646
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,920
until next time, Stay safe, God blessed. We'll catch you

647
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,000
on an upcoming episode of Master the NEC.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning into another electrifying episode of the Master

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the NP podcast. We hope you're feeling more powered up

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