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Speaker 3: Here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: I'm coming to you live from Charlotte, North Carolina at
Speaker 2: the Weston Hotel as the ACC basketball media days are
Speaker 2: going on. They call it the ACC basketball tip off.
Speaker 2: And I see a few people and I stole this
Speaker 2: joke from from from from Joe Ovi's who does a
Speaker 2: sports radio in uh In, I think Raleigh. But just
Speaker 2: a tip, just a tip, and if you know, you know,
Speaker 2: But yeah, tip off season's not here yet, but it's
Speaker 2: getting close. Louislle basketball will have their first real game
Speaker 2: in less than a month, which, you know, saying that
Speaker 2: out loud makes me realize.
Speaker 3: How close we actually are.
Speaker 2: But also it's crazy to me to think that, you know,
Speaker 2: we're halfway through the football season.
Speaker 3: Essentially, I mean goes by quick.
Speaker 2: I am somebody who waits impatiently for many many months,
Speaker 2: seemingly many more months than actually you know, takes place,
Speaker 2: but goes by too quick man. I mean, John, Indiana's
Speaker 2: halfway through, there's six and o Bowl eligible. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean does it feel like the season just started.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I do think that the regular season itself always
Speaker 5: seems to go by fast, but it is the entirety
Speaker 5: of the season as a whole is going to get
Speaker 5: elongated a little bit with the twelve team playoff. And
Speaker 5: I don't know how many people will actually pay attention
Speaker 5: to the bowl games that aren't playoff games this year,
Speaker 5: But I do think overall, once we get to the
Speaker 5: end of the year and we've been through this twelve
Speaker 5: team playoff.
Speaker 4: That will we'll say it's been a full year. You know,
Speaker 4: it'll feel like a full year at that point.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned you don't know how many people are
Speaker 2: going to be watching. I'm not sure how many players
Speaker 2: are going to be playing. I mean, they're going to
Speaker 2: have to find a way to incentivize those exhibitions, and
Speaker 2: it's going to have to be for money or you know,
Speaker 2: you just won't do it unless you're just one of
Speaker 2: those guys that just clearly just wants to, you know,
Speaker 2: have one more you know, one more game where you're
Speaker 2: out there, we're in the uniform, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean to, you know, mock that, because
Speaker 2: although it seems corny to some, but it is a
Speaker 2: special thing. But like, outside of that, if you're somebody
Speaker 2: that has, you know, a future in football, or even if.
Speaker 3: You don't know, if even if you don't know that
Speaker 3: you do, but you.
Speaker 2: Think you might, like you know, playing in a game
Speaker 2: that really is an exhibition game, that now, like the
Speaker 2: perception of these games, like the public opinion is that
Speaker 2: like nobody really like we're already kind of there, but
Speaker 2: it's only gonna get worse now that the playoffs expanded
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have.
Speaker 3: More players opt out.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be bowl games that like even fans of
Speaker 2: certain teams won't remember what bowl game their team was in,
Speaker 2: and if they won, you.
Speaker 4: Know what would be really interesting.
Speaker 5: And maybe I hope I'm not the first person to
Speaker 5: come up with something like this, and maybe it's not
Speaker 5: even a good idea at all, But what if instead if,
Speaker 5: like if your team doesn't make the twelve team playoffs,
Speaker 5: let's just say the committee or somebody comes up with
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of different like four team pods, right
Speaker 5: that you just have two one off games or like
Speaker 5: you know, kind of a semi final start sort of
Speaker 5: a format and the winner between that that pot if
Speaker 5: you will, where you play two games, if you win
Speaker 5: two of them, you win a whole bunch of nil
Speaker 5: money for your school something like that give you a
Speaker 5: reason to keep playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got to find some way to make it worthwhile, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm open to any idea, including that one, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like it's because like to make
Speaker 2: it worse, coaches in these games, they're more focused on
Speaker 2: the portal, you know what I mean, Like at that point,
Speaker 2: the portal's open and players are available, and like you're
Speaker 2: balancing preparation for a bowl game that you know is
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, not meaningless, but just you
Speaker 2: know what, are you more worried about beating a team
Speaker 2: in a bowl game that you don't really want to
Speaker 2: be in because you think your team should have been better,
Speaker 2: or going out and making sure you're recruiting players in
Speaker 2: the portal to be better next year? Like it's such
Speaker 2: a mess, it really is. So, you know, Louisville season,
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully it actually get started on Saturday. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't want to dramatize it and act like it's
Speaker 2: way worse than it actually is. But I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody would have expected Louisville football to be in the
Speaker 2: position that they're in now. And as I've said all week,
Speaker 2: even said it on the postgame show, it could be worse.
Speaker 2: It could be a very humbling experience. And it is
Speaker 2: humbling to see that Louisville, you know, had SMU come
Speaker 2: in here in their first year in the league and
Speaker 2: not only beat you, but it wasn't fluky. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: made some mistakes that could have been avoided, but objectively speaking,
Speaker 2: if you watch that game, you would say SMU's better. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe if Louisville tightened some things up. They play this
Speaker 2: game ten times, maybe Louisville wins way more than half
Speaker 2: of the matchups, but that didn't matter, and we'll never know. So,
Speaker 2: you know, when I say finally getting it started, I
Speaker 2: mean just you know, looking like a well prepared team,
Speaker 2: looking like a team that is locked in. And I'm
Speaker 2: just throwing out all these you know, filler words essentially,
Speaker 2: and I know what it sounds like, but like when
Speaker 2: you are sloppy and you make mistakes that you know
Speaker 2: are avoidable, and yet you know you still continue to
Speaker 2: make them and you just don't look like you you know,
Speaker 2: you look flat as far as your energy, Like that's
Speaker 2: that that's why those filler words are you so often
Speaker 2: because you know that's that's I think they I think
Speaker 2: it fits right, Like you're not sharp, you're sloppy, you know,
Speaker 2: to really just you know, be blunt. You know, it's
Speaker 2: hard to call yourself a good football team and you
Speaker 2: make those kind of mistakes.
Speaker 3: But again, it could be worse.
Speaker 2: You could you could come out and realize that, you know,
Speaker 2: you went on and got a quarterback, and the reason
Speaker 2: that you're sitting here at three and two instead of
Speaker 2: five and zh is because he stinks. You know, you're
Speaker 2: having to rely on a freshman running back and that's
Speaker 2: never ideal. And maybe you're just you know, really suffering
Speaker 2: because Donald Cheney isn't the guy you needed him to
Speaker 2: be from Miami, and Maurice Turner's hurt, and the dude
Speaker 2: from you know, Penny Boon he left, so now you
Speaker 2: got to rely on a freshman. But no, the freshman,
Speaker 2: if everybody's here and everybody's healthy, Isaac Brown is still
Speaker 2: the guy you want. The ball get you still want
Speaker 2: him getting the ball in his hands for the majority
Speaker 2: of the carries.
Speaker 3: So although it.
Speaker 2: Gives me a reason to think that if they do,
Speaker 2: you know, tighten things up, they can go on and
Speaker 2: win some games and have a strong season, you know,
Speaker 2: although I believe that, again, it's it's more frustrating, you know,
Speaker 2: feeling as if those are things that you you should have,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have to worry about on you know, mid
Speaker 2: in mid October in year two. But this Virginia game,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't. We're going to talk to somebody
Speaker 2: who covers Virginia tomorrow on the show just to get,
Speaker 2: you know, their perspective on the matchup. It's Greg Madia,
Speaker 2: who covers the Uh, the Cavaliers? Are they the Who's
Speaker 2: are the Cavaliers? I mean, I guess I'll have to
Speaker 2: ask Locklan McLain, But I've always just referred I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like the only people call them the who's
Speaker 2: are the people who like went there. And I don't
Speaker 2: even you know, I don't get it, but I've always
Speaker 2: called them like the I mean, they're the Virginia Cavaliers.
Speaker 2: I don't know why that that's not just what they
Speaker 2: referred to as But anyways, Greg Madia covers Virginia for
Speaker 2: The Daily Progress in Charlottesville and join us tomorrow. And
Speaker 2: if you're Virginia, you got to look at I mean,
Speaker 2: you got to look at this as an opportunity to,
Speaker 2: you know, to kick Louislle while they're down. You're at home.
Speaker 2: You know, you've played them pretty competitively at their place.
Speaker 2: You know, it's been a weird series, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, when it comes to Virginia and Louisville. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously Louisvill's first year in the ACC they went to
Speaker 2: Charlottesville and lost, and that was you know, of that
Speaker 2: of that nine and three regular season. You know, at
Speaker 2: that time, you know the playoff even exists.
Speaker 3: Then I don't know if it did.
Speaker 4: It's twenty fourteen, right when it began.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it would have been the first year
Speaker 3: of the playoff.
Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't have mattered because, you know, the
Speaker 2: Louisville could have easily gone ten and two with their
Speaker 2: only losses being Florida State and Clemson, and they had
Speaker 2: that one, you know, head scratching loss to Virginia and
Speaker 2: then when Lamar One heisman and later. Of course, they
Speaker 2: ended up losing to Houston and then Kentucky and then LSU,
Speaker 2: so like it fell apart late. But if you remember
Speaker 2: that year they played at Virginia, Virginia might have been
Speaker 2: as bad as they've ever been since Louisll's been in
Speaker 2: the ACC. And had it not been for you know,
Speaker 2: a big play from Lamar Jackson to Jalen Smith in
Speaker 2: the end zone, Louisville would have been upset. So Virginia.
Speaker 2: You know, the players on the current team, I don't
Speaker 2: even know if they have the I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: even know if they know about those games, because again,
Speaker 2: that was a long time ago, and most rosters right
Speaker 2: now are filled with guys who played for different schools
Speaker 2: last year. But you know, this is a game you
Speaker 2: can absolutely lose. I don't think that they will, but
Speaker 2: I'm willing to acknowledge that. When I say that, it's
Speaker 2: just because I'm still believing that this is a good team.
Speaker 2: Well I shouldn't say'm believing that they're a good team.
Speaker 2: I'm believing they have the capability to be a good team.
Speaker 2: But when you're three and two, your best wins Georgia Tech,
Speaker 2: and it's a game that you know, I don't even
Speaker 2: think you played that good in it.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say you're a good team.
Speaker 2: And if you had to side with you know, if
Speaker 2: you had to side one way or the other, are
Speaker 2: you a good team or a bad team? You're going
Speaker 2: to base it off results, And I'm sorry, but I
Speaker 2: don't look at anything you did against Jacksonville State and
Speaker 2: Austin p and claim that that supports you being good
Speaker 2: or bad. So when games that like, you know, you
Speaker 2: can tell anything you're wanted to and that's not good.
Speaker 2: And I can get you know, I can sense some real,
Speaker 2: not not necessarily you know, nerves from the fan base.
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, we're kind of all on
Speaker 2: the same page, Like nobody's looking at this as like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know we've lost to Notre Dame and SMU, and
Speaker 2: you know we could have won those games and we
Speaker 2: made mistakes, but those are actually some pretty good teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, we played Notre Dame at their place, and SMU.
Speaker 2: You know, they got a really good offense and they
Speaker 2: came ready to play. Like I think we all know that.
Speaker 2: But you know, despite everybody being well aware that Virginia
Speaker 2: is a notch below the two teams that just beat you.
Speaker 2: I think we all know when you make those kind
Speaker 2: of mistakes that this little of the team has made,
Speaker 2: you can get beat you mean, and if you don't
Speaker 2: come ready to play, you will, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: One thing I do know that's gonna happen is we're
Speaker 2: gonna have be covered for pre and postgame coverage.
Speaker 3: It'd say three thirty kickoff, right, I think it is.
Speaker 3: I keep forgetting the game times. I believe it is.
Speaker 4: Then noon kickoff next week.
Speaker 2: Yes, Miami, it's three thirty kickoff here in Charlottesville, and
Speaker 2: then noon next week. I keep getting mixed up. But
Speaker 2: we'll have an hour before kickoff. We'll start the pregame show.
Speaker 2: It's the Louisville Fotball Pregame Show presented by Pillow Windows
Speaker 2: and Doors of Central Kentucky and Jefferson Animal Hospital. And
Speaker 2: then the postgame show will start as soon as it ends,
Speaker 2: and certainly we'll be reacting to whatever it is that happens,
Speaker 2: and I'm hoping it's a win, but either way, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about it on the loisll Football Post Game Show
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's because I'm tired slightly dehydrated.
Speaker 2: I mean, my flight did board at four o'clock, which
Speaker 2: or at six o'clock, which means I had to get
Speaker 2: up at four o'clock and you know, get ready and
Speaker 2: be at the airport to go through security.
Speaker 3: And all that.
Speaker 2: So like, I don't know, but my voice is fading.
Speaker 2: Is it sounding as bad as I feel like it is.
Speaker 5: It's not as bad as how recent Reese Davis sounded
Speaker 5: on the call for the Cow game this past weekend.
Speaker 3: That was while let me get a drink of water
Speaker 3: really quick here.
Speaker 5: It makes sense too because in relation to that, for you, specifically,
Speaker 5: he had to get up really early for college game
Speaker 5: day at six am Eastern time whenever it was or
Speaker 5: I guess it was nine am Eastern but six am Pacific,
Speaker 5: and so whenever he had to go and call the
Speaker 5: game from Miami Cow, I mean, he sounded like he
Speaker 5: was he was dying whenever he was doing the play
Speaker 5: by play with PROD.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 5: Right, No, no, no, no, no, I remember turning on that game,
Speaker 5: and I don't know if I can initially tell it
Speaker 5: was Rhys Davis.
Speaker 4: But I was like, what in the world is this?
Speaker 4: This sounds terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't say this to sound like
Speaker 2: a badass, because it's actually just stupidity on my part,
Speaker 2: because I'm sure i'd be better off and you know,
Speaker 2: more energized. But I don't need a lot of sleep,
Speaker 2: so like throughout the day, I've not felt like, oh man,
Speaker 2: I've been up since four o'clock. I'm really tired. And
Speaker 2: again I don't say that because like I don't need
Speaker 2: a lot of sleep. I can perform on you know,
Speaker 2: an hour of sleep. It's just you know, whenever I
Speaker 2: just get to yap and and you know, that's when
Speaker 2: it hits me, like that's you know, i'd learned this,
Speaker 2: by the way, Like one of the signs of being
Speaker 2: like exhausted is like your voice. I mean, I haven't
Speaker 2: been talking to anybody other than these last three hours.
Speaker 2: But you know, considering what this, what this is meaning,
Speaker 2: this job and this show, I probably talk more in
Speaker 2: a two hour period than people do in an entire day.
Speaker 2: And you know that's why my voice will if I'm
Speaker 2: not if I'm not careful and I'm not rested and hydrated,
Speaker 2: my voice will just go. But you know, I'll get
Speaker 2: some rest tonight. I'll be able to sleep in a
Speaker 2: hotel room without young children kicking me in my back
Speaker 2: in their sleep. Whenever the kids, you know, wake up
Speaker 2: and mill of the nite and come and get in
Speaker 2: bed with us, I mean in their sleep, they just
Speaker 2: assault us. Like you know, one day, John, you'll be there.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know your kids won't sleep in bed
Speaker 2: with you and your wife as long as mine have.
Speaker 2: But like, and I'm convinced now, like they're not asleep,
Speaker 2: they're just trying to like get away with assaulting their parents.
Speaker 4: You know what it's like.
Speaker 2: Whenever we get asleep, Moose will just just just you know,
Speaker 2: roll over and let this left hand just completely, you know,
Speaker 2: like he has no control all over and just slaps
Speaker 2: me right in the face.
Speaker 5: When I was a kid, I used to whenever I
Speaker 5: would climb into my parents' bed, I would get behind
Speaker 5: them so like I was almost like their head rest,
Speaker 5: which I don't know if that's I don't know, but
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 4: I made it work.
Speaker 2: Well if you found your spot and you weren't really
Speaker 2: like you know, you know, in between, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: they probably slept better.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 2: In fact, that's probably you know, it's probably a strategic
Speaker 2: move on your part because you know you're kind of
Speaker 2: just finding your own spot.
Speaker 3: You're not really taking their spot, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just a s didn't know how to deal
Speaker 5: with it. But you know, you know, you grow out
Speaker 5: of that cramp, right.
Speaker 3: Oh, you do.
Speaker 2: And you know, as a parent, you get used to it.
Speaker 2: Like my wife, you know, she can sleep through all that.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm you know, maya show roll over and just
Speaker 2: need me in the back and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be peeing blood tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Lady. What are you doing?
Speaker 4: What agent does that start at?
Speaker 3: The role the moving and the sleep just coming in
Speaker 3: and oh gosh, in the bed.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not embarrassed to say it, because you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not embarrass but anything when it comes to me
Speaker 2: being a parent, and you know, because everybody everybody's different,
Speaker 2: you know, like everybody's kids, everybody's situation is different. But
Speaker 2: I know some people are really you know, there are
Speaker 2: people who I know have their kids still occasionally get
Speaker 2: in bed with them and sleep with them, or maybe
Speaker 2: they go they go to bed with them and like
Speaker 2: they feel ashamed to say that, and that's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not judging you, but like, my kids never have
Speaker 2: fully slept in their beds, like like full time. Like
Speaker 2: they've had some stretches, Like for a while when Maya
Speaker 2: was a baby, baby, she was in her crib and
Speaker 2: then she got really really sick one time and she
Speaker 2: had to be she had to be hospitalized for a
Speaker 2: few days, and I think she was just so scared
Speaker 2: that she just wanted to be in bed with her mom,
Speaker 2: and like since then, that's what she wants now. Occasionally
Speaker 2: they'll fall asleep on the couch when we're watching TV,
Speaker 2: and we'll put them in their bed and they'll stay
Speaker 2: there for a while. But man, the only time that
Speaker 2: they've ever woken up like where they never once were
Speaker 2: with us at any point is when we're traveling and
Speaker 2: they're like, you know, I don't know, maybe because they're
Speaker 2: on vacation and they're more tired, they just pass out
Speaker 2: and we got to wake them up the next day.
Speaker 2: They could have fell asleep in the parking lot on
Speaker 2: the ground and you know, slept fond because they're that tired.
Speaker 3: That's how kids run.
Speaker 2: But you know, if they have somebody stay over, like
Speaker 2: a friend or you know, a cousin or something, then
Speaker 2: then they're they're they're less inclined to want to come
Speaker 2: snuggle with us. But uh, yeah, I mean tonight, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean I'll miss my family and you know, we'll
Speaker 2: do the FaceTime and I'm sure one of them will
Speaker 2: cry because they miss me, and it'll make me feel
Speaker 2: like a big piece of crap because.
Speaker 3: I'm away from them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, and it's it's just part of it,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't you know, it's it's life, and it's
Speaker 2: not you know, trust me, there's many, many, many kids
Speaker 2: who are not with their I remember, with my kids
Speaker 2: all the time, and you know, if I got to
Speaker 2: get out of town for a couple of days, you know,
Speaker 2: for work, it's fine. But you know there's some like
Speaker 2: over the road truckers and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Like it's you know, it's life. But you know, despite
Speaker 2: me missing them tonight, I will probably wake up in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night and go to the bathroom
Speaker 2: and realize, oh my god, I get to go back
Speaker 2: to bed for you know, maybe four or five hours,
Speaker 2: and I don't have to worry about getting assaulted. I
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about, you know, Moose telling me, Hey,
Speaker 2: I need some milk. So you know I'll miss him,
Speaker 2: but kind of not, if I'm being honest with you.
Speaker 2: All Right, Tomorrow at four o'clock, Pat Kelsey gonna join
Speaker 2: us here on the show as we are here live
Speaker 2: in Charlotte for the a SEC basketball tip off, And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and I've already got some questions lined
Speaker 2: up that I hope uh won't. I'm not gonna tease
Speaker 2: it like I've got. You know, you won't believe what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna really, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put him on the spot, like you know, It's
Speaker 2: not what I'm gonna do. But you know he's done
Speaker 2: a lot of talking since he got hired, because that's
Speaker 2: what you do. I mean, you should be transparent and
Speaker 2: you know, be as visible as possible when you are
Speaker 2: the coach at a program like Louisville, but when you're
Speaker 2: the new guy and everybody's trying to get to know
Speaker 2: you and you're trying to get some life back in
Speaker 2: this fan base and get these guys energized. Makes sense
Speaker 2: to do as much media interviews as possible, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna try to, you know, hit some spots that maybe
Speaker 2: you know, he hasn't talked about before, and not to
Speaker 2: make it you know, totally personally about him, but you know,
Speaker 2: he's now coached these guys, you know, for many months now,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't know exactly what he's got. I think
Speaker 2: he likes his personnel. In fact, I know that he does.
Speaker 2: But you know, just like if every team in the country,
Speaker 2: nobody really knows how good their team's going to be
Speaker 2: until you see him out there in a real game
Speaker 2: and against real competition. To be honest with you, but
Speaker 2: you know, by now, I would imagine he's got a
Speaker 2: pretty good feel for what type of lineups he's gonna use.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure he feels pretty strongly about where
Speaker 2: his team could really have an advantage over some of
Speaker 2: their opponents. And maybe there's some things that he feels
Speaker 2: like they got to they got to work on from
Speaker 2: now until the season, or maybe some things that like
Speaker 2: he's wanting to see what it looks like against a
Speaker 2: real team because he's a little bit worried.
Speaker 3: Now, maybe he won't be as transparent.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna learn a little bit tomorrow just to see
Speaker 2: kind of how much he's willing to, you know, share
Speaker 2: with us, because some coaches, you know.
Speaker 3: They just not that they're super secretive. But you know, and.
Speaker 2: Look, Pat Kelsey may end up being a guy that
Speaker 2: down the line we realize, oh, he'll tell us everything,
Speaker 2: like he'll he'll talk ball with us x's and o's
Speaker 2: and strategic stuff more than any coach we've ever had
Speaker 2: around here. But you know, he could he could be
Speaker 2: that guy and us not know it this year because
Speaker 2: it's so bad, like he doesn't know what he has,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like again, he recruited these guys,
Speaker 2: it's quite clear what he was going after when he
Speaker 2: was recruiting. He wanted guys with experience. He wented guys
Speaker 2: with versatility that could play a lot of different positions.
Speaker 2: He wanted guys they could shoot the ball. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're going to be deep, they're going to have versatility.
Speaker 2: They've got shooters, and they've got experience, and I think
Speaker 2: they've got talent. Now do they have NBA caliber talent?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong. And if
Speaker 2: you've watched college basketball in recent years, with the portal.
Speaker 2: You can get guys that you know will not sniff
Speaker 2: the NBA, but they're grown men and they're really good
Speaker 2: college basketball players, and you can have a lot of
Speaker 2: success that way.
Speaker 3: So here's to hoping that that's what plays out with
Speaker 3: this Louisville team.
Speaker 2: Something can be said for Kentucky too, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, I mean, I know, they had their basketball
Speaker 2: media day and people are posting clips of guys making
Speaker 2: shots and warm ups as if Rick Patino's nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: six and ninety seven Kentucky teams have been kind of
Speaker 2: reincarnated with Mark Pope co coaching them. I mean, it
Speaker 2: is kind of funny, you know, to see the you know,
Speaker 2: the Kentucky fans and I get it, like, you know,
Speaker 2: we're doing the same thing, but you know, they what
Speaker 2: really stands out to me is the hypocrisy. Like they
Speaker 2: used to just brag about having a bunch of dudes
Speaker 2: that are going to go to the NBA and having
Speaker 2: cal being, you know, this larger than life figure within
Speaker 2: college basketball, and now it's a different world. And I
Speaker 2: and I mean this sincerely, I totally knew that they
Speaker 2: would be re energized by Pope his brand and the
Speaker 2: way he's going to do things and they and they are,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's refreshing to them. And I totally get
Speaker 2: it because everything about Cal that you were annoyed by,
Speaker 2: even though maybe you didn't want him to leave initially
Speaker 2: and maybe you.
Speaker 3: Still thought he could get it.
Speaker 2: Working to where y'all would eventually have a championship with him. Like,
Speaker 2: even if you were of that mindset, you were still
Speaker 2: probably annoyed by just Cal being Cal and everything that
Speaker 2: annoyed you about Cal.
Speaker 3: Is the exact opposite of Pope. But you all are
Speaker 3: on a different planet right now. Like Kentucky could be
Speaker 3: really good this year. Who on that team going to
Speaker 3: the NBA?
Speaker 2: I mean, and again, that used to sound like an insult,
Speaker 2: right if you would say that a Kentucky team coach
Speaker 2: by John cala Perry doesn't have NBA dudes, you'd say
Speaker 2: they're gonna stink. But that's not that's not college basketball anymore.
Speaker 2: And Cal's not in Lexington and he had a bunch
Speaker 2: of NBA guys. He's been falling off lately with you know,
Speaker 2: lackluster performances in the tournament and losing to teams like
Speaker 2: UNC Wilmington, and Oakland and Saint Peter's, but he always
Speaker 2: had NBA dudes, and there wasn't as much value there.
Speaker 2: It wasn't didn't really get you much. So when I
Speaker 2: say they don't have NBA guys, I don't mean like
Speaker 2: they're gonna stink. I just mean like it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a big difference for them from what they're used to.
Speaker 3: And I think.
Speaker 2: They'll enjoy the ride. It'll be new, it'll be fresh.
Speaker 2: They love Pope and I get it, he's one of
Speaker 2: their own. But you know, they don't have the ceiling
Speaker 2: that they once had with Cal. And that means, like
Speaker 2: you know, you've said it many times, John, and I'm
Speaker 2: totally with you, it's gonna be so fascinating to see
Speaker 2: what they do when they lose, because they're gonna lose
Speaker 2: to somebody they should lose to.
Speaker 3: And that didn't mean that they're destined to be bad.
Speaker 2: But like with Cal, you could lose to those teams
Speaker 2: and still know that on any given night, if your
Speaker 2: talent plays.
Speaker 3: At the high level, you'll beat anybody.
Speaker 2: Like even the team that lost last year to Oakland,
Speaker 2: they had the talent to win the National championship. Maybe
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would have got past Yukon,
Speaker 2: but like they had good pieces. I mean, look at
Speaker 2: their look at their draft board, Reeves Sheppard, Dillingham. But like,
Speaker 2: if you start losing to you know, mid level SEC
Speaker 2: teams more often than you used to, are you gonna
Speaker 2: be worried more so because you know that, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: don't have the ability to just turn it on. Now Again,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean cal should still be there because he
Speaker 2: couldn't turn it on. That's how he lost in the
Speaker 2: tournament the last few years. All right, quick break will
Speaker 2: come back on the other side. Speaking of Kentucky and Pope,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm starting to you know, not you know,
Speaker 2: I'll save it because the Patino going to Lexington thing.
Speaker 2: Like I don't really care about Rick doing whatever he's
Speaker 2: gonna do, but I am starting to back off a
Speaker 2: little bit of far as like his motive here, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about that next right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: Lyric Church.
Speaker 2: He's a Carolina guy. I don't know what part of
Speaker 2: Carolina he's from, but I know he's a big Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a big Tar Hill fan. And you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if i've if I have just different taste
Speaker 2: than other people I like.
Speaker 3: I like a lot of his music a lot.
Speaker 2: And I've always been told by folks who go see
Speaker 2: him live that he's really good. I've seen him live
Speaker 2: twice and I was so unimpressed. He didn't sound as
Speaker 2: good live as he does, you know when his you know,
Speaker 2: in his in his recordings, but also like he just
Speaker 2: doesn't have a whole and it could just be you know,
Speaker 2: his personality, like some people like it's hard to go
Speaker 2: out there and be Garth Brooks, who like is so energetic,
Speaker 2: so into his show, and it's really not just up
Speaker 2: there playing hit songs, but they're performing, if you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like it's just it's it's different. But
Speaker 2: I like him a lot. It's just you know, I
Speaker 2: was excited to see him twice, and the first time
Speaker 2: I just assumed, hey, it was a bad night or
Speaker 2: maybe I was too hammered, and I just you know
Speaker 2: that that had a factor. And because he wasn't he
Speaker 2: was an opening act when I saw him first. But
Speaker 2: then I saw him again later years down the line,
Speaker 2: and you know, he wasn't terrible. But I just, you know,
Speaker 2: for somebody whose songs I really like, I just wanted
Speaker 2: it to be better.
Speaker 5: But I've heard this about Eric Church and maybe we've
Speaker 5: had this conversation before, But doesn't he wait to come
Speaker 5: out until maybe not every seat is full, but a
Speaker 5: certain percentage of the seats are full.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that, and I know it's been a
Speaker 2: story out there, And I don't know if like, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I think he actually may have gotten left
Speaker 2: off of a tour because of that, huh, like he
Speaker 2: was gonna be a part of I think he might.
Speaker 2: I don't know who it was. He might have been
Speaker 2: like the second like he wasn't the main event, the
Speaker 2: main act, but he was right before him, and he
Speaker 2: was still a big name, but the big event of
Speaker 2: the big the big artist, the big group. Didn't want
Speaker 2: to bring him because that you know that he was
Speaker 2: gonna hold everybody up because he waits forever.
Speaker 3: It was either him or somebody else.
Speaker 2: But you know, for you to come out and just
Speaker 2: literally just stand there motionless and sing with no energy,
Speaker 2: like you know, I think you could probably start with
Speaker 2: half the stadium full, because you know, I mean it's
Speaker 2: not like you're I mean it's but again, that could
Speaker 2: just be me. Everybody's got their own, you know, preferences
Speaker 2: and opinion. I'm sure there's people I see live that
Speaker 2: I love that you guys.
Speaker 3: Would say stings.
Speaker 2: So anyways, he you know, when I think of country
Speaker 2: music artists, you know, and where they're from, you know,
Speaker 2: I think mostly the South, but I don't often think
Speaker 2: of Carolina. But both Eric Church and Luke Holmb's two big,
Speaker 2: big names, and they're both from Carolina, and you know,
Speaker 2: you know it, meaning they make it quite clear everybody
Speaker 2: knows where they're from. And as I mentioned earlier, me
Speaker 2: being here in Charlotte today at the airport and then
Speaker 2: just everywhere I've been. It's not like I've been all
Speaker 2: over town, but even at the hotel here, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of you know, all kinds of stuff
Speaker 2: set up for people to you know, QR codes where
Speaker 2: people can scan their phone and donate money to help
Speaker 2: other people out in the state that have lost everything.
Speaker 2: You know, we're I think we're a couple hours away
Speaker 2: from where it was really, really really bad, and I
Speaker 2: mean there's some really small towns that are essentially just gone,
Speaker 2: like and that's that's an that's a scary, scary thing.
Speaker 2: I've been a little bit unplugged from the cup. It's
Speaker 2: today when it comes to Milton. But again, you know,
Speaker 2: yesterday there was the mayor of Tampa on CNN saying, hey,
Speaker 2: if you choose not to evacuate these specific areas, you
Speaker 2: will die. And I you know, twenty four hours later,
Speaker 2: I know we talked about it yesterday. That's still like
Speaker 2: one of the strongest things I've ever heard of politicians say.
Speaker 2: I mean, and they don't know that for certain, but
Speaker 2: like that to me is not somebody being dramatic. That
Speaker 2: to me is somebody like that is worried. And honestly,
Speaker 2: they're well aware that there are people that won't take
Speaker 2: that serious and they're gonna stick. They're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 2: try to ride it out and like.
Speaker 4: They actually they'll not agree with them politically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. I didn't thought about that,
Speaker 2: but that's it's.
Speaker 4: Certainly okay saying well, let's just give it a shot.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I've I mean, you got to be careful with AI
Speaker 2: with this kind of stuff, because you know, we talked.
Speaker 3: Yesterday about how there are people who are.
Speaker 2: You know, and I don't I don't know what. I'll
Speaker 2: be honest with you, hand up full transparency. I don't
Speaker 2: know what to believe about anything anymore. I mean that,
Speaker 2: like I hear some far fetch stuff that I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, a way because I'm I'm not someone that
Speaker 2: typically is a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 3: But then again, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I also, you know, at times, will take a
Speaker 2: step back and just think about where we are in
Speaker 2: the world today in twenty twenty four and think, like,
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe I am naive. Maybe there are
Speaker 2: these crazy conspiracies out there. I tend to believe that
Speaker 2: they're not, but occasionally I find myself second guessing it.
Speaker 2: But there are people who still are pushing these posts,
Speaker 2: whether it be Twitter videos or Facebook stuff, Instagram whatever,
Speaker 2: and it's got you know, millions and millions and millions
Speaker 2: of views, millions of shares, and it's so not true
Speaker 2: and it's not at least it's not proven, and yet
Speaker 2: people are believing that the federal government is intentionally not
Speaker 2: helping people because they don't want them to go vote.
Speaker 3: Like maybe I'm naive.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're sitting here thinking, oh, you you left a
Speaker 2: liberal schmuck. You actually think you know, you're a sheep, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm sure there are people listening to
Speaker 2: me right now thinking that that's the way.
Speaker 3: That I am.
Speaker 2: And maybe you're right, I don't know, but like, I
Speaker 2: still think that's the most insane and insulting thing to
Speaker 2: ever say about our country that people in charge would intentionally,
Speaker 2: you know, not help those in need because they were
Speaker 2: worried about them voting for the other side. Now, there's
Speaker 2: clearly some resources that you know, are not are not
Speaker 2: that impressive considering resources that are going elsewhere. And I'm
Speaker 2: not going to get into that conversation. I think you
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. But you know, back to
Speaker 2: the AI conversation, Like, there's there's a video I saw
Speaker 2: earlier today of a woman behind the bar what looks
Speaker 2: to be like, you know, your typical sports bar might
Speaker 2: have been, like might have even been like a buffalo
Speaker 2: of wild wings, and somebody has used AI to make
Speaker 2: it to where it looks as if she's bartending while
Speaker 2: in you know, four feet of water and it's not real.
Speaker 2: Like you can tell if you look closely that it's
Speaker 2: that it's that it's some type of AI generated video clip,
Speaker 2: Like they used an AI element to make it look
Speaker 2: as if these people are just you know, doing their
Speaker 2: everyday stuff in water up to their waist and it
Speaker 2: looks so real.
Speaker 3: It's scary.
Speaker 2: You know, You've said it for years, John, and I
Speaker 2: never doubted you, but I think you've been proved to
Speaker 2: be spot on since the first conversation you and I
Speaker 2: ever had on this show about AI.
Speaker 3: It's scary because you don't know what what's real and
Speaker 3: what's not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I do feel like down the line, there's
Speaker 5: eventually going to be somebody who is able to create
Speaker 5: something with AI, and they'll be it'll be pretty much
Speaker 5: photo realistic, and it's kind of like that right now,
Speaker 5: but they'll be able to do something with it during
Speaker 5: a time of crisis or something like that where it
Speaker 5: causes people to go into some sort of panic. And
Speaker 5: I don't mean to to scare people right now by
Speaker 5: saying that, but that's just kind of the way that
Speaker 5: I see this going down the line.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't think of any like real big
Speaker 2: example of something that you know, like.
Speaker 5: Here's something that's really creepy, and these are easier to
Speaker 5: call out because they're just it's satire. But whenever people
Speaker 5: will do the AI press conferences with head coaches, whether
Speaker 5: they're like, you know, cussing into the microphone or call it,
Speaker 5: you're saying something completely out of pocket about whoever they
Speaker 5: just played. And it's just funny content. But that stuff
Speaker 5: can really get people and it's just jokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm naive to an extent. I think
Speaker 2: everybody is. You know, we can all be global, and
Speaker 2: especially I think we all have our we have certain
Speaker 2: things you know that we will I'm trying to think
Speaker 2: of an example, but like there's certain things, whether it
Speaker 2: be sports or politics or you know, your personally, you know,
Speaker 2: you're you can be more naive because it's it's you know, internally,
Speaker 2: what you choose, what you want to believe, right, Like
Speaker 2: you're a little jaded and that that's just human nature.
Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes I randomly think, like you know,
Speaker 2: how many people probably have no clue what they read.
Speaker 3: It is so not true.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, it's what they saw is so
Speaker 2: manufactured and not you know, legitimate.
Speaker 3: Like it's just you know, that's why I.
Speaker 5: Like, and again we can get away from this subject.
Speaker 5: But this is why I just I could care less
Speaker 5: about what happens in politics anymore because there are so
Speaker 5: many people that have gotten so invested in it that
Speaker 5: it's easy.
Speaker 4: It's so easy to trick them into thinking one thing
Speaker 4: over the other, both sides.
Speaker 3: And you know people are going to believe. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I want to act like I'm trying to persuade people
Speaker 2: to do anything and feel any way when it comes
Speaker 2: to politics. But I think we are this is the
Speaker 2: perfect election. I feel like where you can claim that
Speaker 2: you know, both options kind of suck, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But what I where I find like the
Speaker 2: most like nastiness is those that are because I think, look,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna choose one side or the other knowing
Speaker 2: that both options aren't great, like that's that's that's all
Speaker 2: you can do. But when I see people wanting to
Speaker 2: get into the weeds to prop up somebody and like
Speaker 2: being you know, hypocritical, right because both you know not
Speaker 2: to get into it, and I'm trying my best not
Speaker 2: to to to to toe, you know, I'm trying toe
Speaker 2: the line of where I don't turn it into where
Speaker 2: I'm literally sharing opinions on politics because one I don't
Speaker 2: want to do that. Nobody wants to hear that. And
Speaker 2: you know, I don't even have strong opinions. But like
Speaker 2: that's when it comes to us getting closer and closer
Speaker 2: to election day. That is what I'm so ready for,
Speaker 2: you know, for to end. Is that people you know,
Speaker 2: knowing that, like they're trying to convince themself, like you
Speaker 2: can convince yourself that this is the best option can
Speaker 2: considering the circumstance. But to try to act like one
Speaker 2: of the two sides is not what we all know
Speaker 2: it is. It's like, you know, it's just sad to me,
Speaker 2: but we'll move on. We'll move on. You know, some
Speaker 2: Loisvell fans are sad you like that failed attempt to
Speaker 2: go to politics that segue there. Some people are sad
Speaker 2: that Rick Patino is gonna be back in Lexington, and
Speaker 2: I still stam buy everything I said yesterday, Like I
Speaker 2: think Rick genuinely is really excited about Mark Pope being
Speaker 2: the Kentucky coach because it's one of his guys, and
Speaker 2: it does you know, when he was hired, Initially, Kentucky
Speaker 2: fans hated it understandably, so like they just thought, there's
Speaker 2: no scenario.
Speaker 3: When that guy gets the job.
Speaker 2: But whenever they did start to realize, Okay, this guy
Speaker 2: may be great. I really like him. I heard him,
Speaker 2: he talked he won a championship. Nobody thought about Rick
Speaker 2: from the Kentucky side.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe you did. You thought about those years,
Speaker 3: but you didn't think like, oh my gosh, this could
Speaker 3: lead to Rick Patino coming back, Like why would you
Speaker 3: think that? It wouldn't be normal?
Speaker 2: But Rick probably saw that as a chance for you to,
Speaker 2: like for him to kind of, you know, inch back in.
Speaker 2: And he's done it not by saying I love you
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans. I wish I wish you loved me too.
Speaker 2: Please forgive me for going to Louisville and flipping you
Speaker 2: off the last time I was in Reperena. But he's
Speaker 2: doing the nil donation to Stoops. He's making the video
Speaker 2: talking about how emotionally is for Pope being the guy
Speaker 2: that gets the gig. Now he's going to go to
Speaker 2: the football game. Like I think that's Rick's indirect way
Speaker 2: of like making it clear in his own way that
Speaker 2: he does love Kentucky and he probably loved Kentucky when
Speaker 2: he was here. He hated Caliperi being there. That's what
Speaker 2: he hated.
Speaker 3: I'm not defending him.
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's doing what he's doing with
Speaker 2: Louisville in mind, wanting to make us upset. I just
Speaker 2: you know, and I know people you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you can really know Rick Patino, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I mean, really know him, because I
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I'm sure people do, but there
Speaker 2: aren't many. But people who I do know that know him,
Speaker 2: that played for him, that have been around him, like
Speaker 2: they mean, they're not even defending him when they say, no,
Speaker 2: he's not thinking about Louisville fans, not because like he's
Speaker 2: mad at us, or because he you know, is sad
Speaker 2: and doesn't want to think he doesn't he doesn't like
Speaker 2: he's so self absorbed.
Speaker 3: However, if he ends up.
Speaker 2: At Big Blue Madness along with the Kentucky game, that's
Speaker 2: desperation from Rick, I think, not to you know, make
Speaker 2: us mad, but like that's desperation for him. Like that,
Speaker 2: to me, that's him showing how desperate he is to
Speaker 2: like want to be a Kentucky guy, and like like
Speaker 2: maybe he wants to leave there and you know he'd
Speaker 2: never do it, but like and you nobody talks about
Speaker 2: it because they don't have a Then I'm a football
Speaker 2: team and I'm not even really sure they have a
Speaker 2: fan base like Saint John's New York's basketball team, but
Speaker 2: like they don't give it damn about college basketball in
Speaker 2: New York and Saint John's sucked forever. Like it's a
Speaker 2: pro sports town. It's like, yeah, they're excited that Rick
Speaker 2: Patino's there, but like, I mean, do they have a
Speaker 2: legitimate fan base that shows up in the masses for
Speaker 2: every game?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: So you know, somebody asked the question on the text line,
Speaker 2: like what does Saint John's fans think about him donating
Speaker 2: money UK and slobbering all over Mark Pope? And I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 2: you're speaking of people that I'm not sure exist. But
Speaker 2: if he ends up at Midnight Madness and some kind
Speaker 2: of an appearance, yeah, you can maybe chalk it up
Speaker 2: as like it's this first opportunity to honor him after
Speaker 2: he's left, because you know, he's not at Louisville anymore
Speaker 2: and Cal's gone.
Speaker 3: But if you if a Saint John's fan.
Speaker 2: Basketball wise does exist and they're caring about any of this,
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Would be that'd be shameful.
Speaker 2: As a head coach of a peer program, I know
Speaker 2: Saint John's is not Kentucky when it comes to hoops
Speaker 2: and accomplishments, but like you know, you might play him
Speaker 2: in the tournament or something like it's just weird. Like
Speaker 2: the football thing gives him an out because he is
Speaker 2: friends with Eddie Grant and Mark Stoops. Oddly enough, their
Speaker 2: connections are in the business world, I believe, horse racing.
Speaker 2: But like he's coaching a team that some people think
Speaker 2: is gonna be one of the best teams in the
Speaker 2: Big East this year, and if he's showing up at
Speaker 2: their Midnight Madness in Lexington, like that's just odd behavior.
Speaker 2: And again, Rick is one of the few that can
Speaker 2: do weird things, and like, you know, it's Rick being
Speaker 2: Rick kind of like cal but this would be to
Speaker 2: where like it didn't matter.
Speaker 3: Who you are.
Speaker 2: That's just like that's just like most most coaches would
Speaker 2: get in trouble by their boss for doing that.
Speaker 3: But you know it's Rick. What if he showed him
Speaker 3: midnight Madness.
Speaker 4: When is when is Big Blue Fridays.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like that's true. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 3: that's what I brought it up.
Speaker 4: Like it's just I bet he does right here, I
Speaker 4: bet it.
Speaker 2: And you know what else, it is straight up and
Speaker 2: this is what Rick does. This is Rick being Rick.
Speaker 2: This would be him trying to steal Mark Pope's moment.
Speaker 2: Like that's what it would be. I mean, but that's Rick.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. We'll wrap it up on the other
Speaker 2: side right here on Sports Talk seven ninety we're wrapping
Speaker 2: things up here on a Wednesday afternoon in Charlotte, North Carolina. Well, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere, at least not yet. I'll be
Speaker 2: back tomorrow for the show alive here for the AEC
Speaker 2: basketball tip off, and uh, my flight home leaves tomorrow
Speaker 2: I think like around eight thirty nine o'clock. So uh,
Speaker 2: back in studio for the show on Friday, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, another week down, seemingly, I mean, we're about
Speaker 2: to wrap up Wednesday, and I'm not kidding you, man,
Speaker 2: I cannot believe how fast these weeks go by. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier that it kind of feels like it
Speaker 2: was just a couple of weeks ago we were waiting
Speaker 2: for the season to start in football, and you know,
Speaker 2: you've got six games in for most teams, A lot
Speaker 2: of teams Indiana six and zero. Louisville of course, will
Speaker 2: play their six game on Saturday, and with it being
Speaker 2: the you know, the official midway point of the season,
Speaker 2: and you'll have three of your eight A C. C
Speaker 2: games in the books. You know, won't mean the season's over.
Speaker 2: But I think when you played six games, you know
Speaker 2: you are who you are. And if they you know,
Speaker 2: don't make a big adjustment to just simplifying things defensively,
Speaker 2: eliminating costly mistakes that you.
Speaker 3: You think are avoidable.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they are avoidable, but when you
Speaker 2: see them keep happening, you got to wonder, like, why
Speaker 2: do they keep doing that? So you know, I can't
Speaker 2: tell you that Virginia on the road is a huge
Speaker 2: game for Louisville to where they've got, you know, a
Speaker 2: big opportunity because they don't. A win doesn't do a
Speaker 2: whole lot for you, to be honest with you, now,
Speaker 2: I think for these guys internally, it does a lot
Speaker 2: if they come out and win and they look good
Speaker 2: doing it. And I don't mean by winning by three touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I mean by looking like a team that was prepared
Speaker 2: to play from start to finish, that is locked in
Speaker 2: and it's sharp, you know that kind of stuff. It'll
Speaker 2: be big for them, but you put yourself on a
Speaker 2: spot now to wear a loss again. I think you
Speaker 2: take the negative noise out there from the fan base
Speaker 2: when it comes to just being very disappointed understandably, so
Speaker 2: I think you turn that up five notches if.
Speaker 3: They somehow lose this game on Saturday.
Speaker 2: And if you win, it'll, you know, it'll stop the
Speaker 2: you know it'll it'll it'll get you back in your
Speaker 2: your winning ways. But it really is what you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do, right. It's not like a you know, it's
Speaker 2: not like it's not like a monumental win. It'll be
Speaker 2: big just because you didn't lose another game and you
Speaker 2: you know, you avoided a three game losing streak. So
Speaker 2: I'm anxious to see what happens, and I'm choosing to
Speaker 2: be optimistic. But again, you know, as I said on
Speaker 2: the show after the postgame show, after the SMU loss,
Speaker 2: you know, if we do the same kind of show
Speaker 2: where we're highlighting some impressive plays, really looking at certain
Speaker 2: guys and feeling like you've got something special there, and
Speaker 2: yet you still make mistakes and find your way to
Speaker 2: a loss, yeah, it'll be infuriating and the noise will
Speaker 2: be louder but can we say that we're that shocked?
Speaker 3: All right, Join us tomorrow again.
Speaker 2: We'll be live here in Charlotte for the ACC basketball
Speaker 2: tip off. Pat Kelsey going to join us at four o'clock,
Speaker 2: so come on out, have a good night, everybody,