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Speaker 1: Imagine standing outside on a clear, dark night. You know,

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you're far away from the city lights, maybe out in

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the desert or high up in the mountains somewhere, and

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you're just looking up at a sky that is completely

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blanketed with stars.

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Speaker 2: It's staggeringly beautiful, but honestly, it's also profoundly overwhelming if

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you steer long enough.

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Speaker 1: Right, Because we have always been told that, well, with

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billions of galaxies out there containing trillions of stars, the

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universe just must be absolutely teeming with life. It's always

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framed as this mathematical certainty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at the sheer numbers and you think,

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you know, someone else simply has to be looking back

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at us exactly.

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Speaker 1: But what if that deafening silence we hear when we

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point our massive radio telescopes at the sky. What if

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that isn't a technical glitch. What if it's not just

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that our listening devices aren't sensitive enough or I don't know,

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tuned to the right frequency.

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Speaker 2: What if we're essentially looking up at a graveyard.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Thrilling Threads. Today, we are taking you on

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a massive, un compromising journey through ten rigorously grounded, scientifically

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terrifying reasons why humanity might just be the absolute last

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spark of intelligent life left in the cosmos.

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Speaker 2: It is a genuinely chilling thought, and I think it

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cuts right to the core of our deepest existential anxieties.

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Speaker 1: It really does. We are pulling from this incredible array

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of astrophysical data, astrobiological studies, and game theory papers to

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solve what is essentially the ultimate cosmic murder mystery, the

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Fermi paradox.

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Speaker 2: Right going back to nineteen fifty when physicist Enrico Fermi

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was having lunch with his colleagues at Los Alamos. They

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were discussing the vastness of the universe, and he famously

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just blurted out, where is everybody?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because if the universe is so big and so old,

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the Milky Way should be thoroughly colonized by now, but

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we see absolutely zero evidence of it.

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Speaker 2: And setting the stakes here is crucial for you listening.

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We aren't just engaging in a fun late night thought

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experiment about aliens here. This is about understanding how impossibly

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fragile our own existence actually is.

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Speaker 1: Because the cosmo fundamentally does not care about us.

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Speaker 2: No, it is indifferent, chaotic, and relentlessly destructive. So today

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we are going to walk through exactly how many cosmic

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bullets humanity has had to dodge just to be here breathing,

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thinking and having this conversation.

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Speaker 1: We are looking at a trail of planetary wreckage and

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biological dead ends that stretch across billions of years. So

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to even begin to understand how lucky we are, we

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have to start at the absolute foundation. Before life can

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even try to survive the brutality of the universe. It

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has to be built.

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Speaker 2: You need the raw materials, right.

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Speaker 1: You need the ingredients. We always talk about the habitable zone. Right,

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you find a planet the right distance from its star,

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you add liquid water, you wait a billion years, and

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boom you get Amobos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That assumption that water plus time equals life that

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dominated astrobiology for decades. We assume that if you had

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a stable energy source and some basic organic molecules, you

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had a decent shot at cooking up life.

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Speaker 1: Because those molecules are most made of incredibly common elements

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like carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, but biology specifically, the complex biology required to build

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anything beyond a simple microscopic blob requires highly specialized chemical machinery,

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and that machinery fundamentally relies on one incredibly specific element,

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which is phosphorus.

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Speaker 1: Let's really drill down into why phosphorus is the absolute

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deal breaker here, because it's not just a nice to

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have trace mineral, not at all.

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Speaker 2: It is the structural backbone of DNA and RNA, the

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literal twisting ladder of your genetic code is held together

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by phosphate bonds.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But even more crucially, it is the core component of

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ATP or adenisene triphosphate. Think of ATP as the universal

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currency of cellular energy.

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Speaker 1: So every time you move a muscle or think a thought.

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Speaker 2: Every single time your heart beats, every time a neuron

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fires in your brain, every time you blink, your cells

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are spending ATP to power that action. The molecule has

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three phosphate groups, acting like a tightly coiled molecular spring,

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and when it snaps those groups snaps off, it releases

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the kinetic energy that drives biological processes. Every single organism

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on Earth uses that exact same phosphorus based mechanism for

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energy transfer.

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Speaker 1: From the extremophile bacteria living in boiling hydrothermal vents all

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the way to a blue whale navigating the Pacific.

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Speaker 2: Precisely, and there is no backup plan. There's no alternative

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evolutionary pathway we've ever discovered or even theorized that can

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replace it.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't have phosphorus, the engine of life

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never turns over. It's just dead chemistry, which brings us

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to a massive problem that was discovered just a few

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Speaker 2: Yes, in twenty thirteen, astrobiologist Jane Greeves published a study

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that completely upended our assumptions about how common this vital

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element actually is.

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Speaker 1: She used the William Herschel telescope.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, which is this incredible orbital observatory that specializes

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in the far infrared and submillimeter wavelengths of light. Yeah.

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were looking at the remnants of supernovae like the famous

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crab nebul.

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Speaker 1: Because when a massive star explodes, it functions as a

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cosmic forge exactly.

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Speaker 2: It fuses lighter elements into heavier ones and blasts them

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out into the interstellar medium. By using spectroscopic analysis, essentially

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looking at the specific bar codes of light absorbed by

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different elements in that expanding cloud of stellar shrapnel. They

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could measure exactly what materials were being seeded into the galaxy.

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Speaker 1: And they were specifically looking for the bar code for phosphorus.

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Speaker 2: Correct, and the results were staggering. The data revealed an

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incredibly severe galactic level shortage.

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Speaker 1: Like how severe are we talking?

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Speaker 2: The overall abundance of phosphorus in the universe is only

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about one tenth of what our previous astrophysical models have predicted.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm wrapping my head around

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the mechanics of this. Why is it so rare? Don't

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supernovae just smash everything together and make all the elements?

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Speaker 2: They do, but elements aren't created equally. Carbon and oxygen

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are relatively easy for stars to forge during their normal lifespans,

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but phosphorus requires a very specific set of extreme condition.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I see.

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Speaker 2: It is only synthesized in significant quantities during the explosive

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death throws of a very specific narrow mass range of

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Speaker 1: So it has to be a Goldilock star explosion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Basically, if the star is too small, it doesn't

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get hot enough to make phosphorus. If it's too massive,

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the explosion processes the phosphorus into even heavier elements like iron. Wow.

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that actually produces the one element required for the spark

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of life. The universe is, for all practical intents and purposes,

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starving for it.

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Speaker 1: And the cruelty of the universe doesn't stop there, does it.

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where that tiny supply is actually hoarded.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the geography of the Milky Way creates a brutal

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catch twenty two. Because phosphorus requires massive stars to die,

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the highest concentrations of it are logically clustered where the

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star density is the highest.

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Speaker 1: Which would be near the galactic center.

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Speaker 2: There are countless supernovae going off the galactic core, enriching

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the dust clouds there with phosphorus.

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Speaker 1: But the galactic center is an absolute war zone. I mean,

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you have a supermassive black hole. You have stars packed

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so tightly together their gravitational fields are ripping each other.

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Speaker 2: Apart, and the ambient radiation levels are astronomically high.

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Speaker 1: Right, any planet trying to form near the galactic center

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is going to be continuously sterilized by X rays and

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Speaker 2: Exactly. The one place in the galaxy that actually has

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enough ingredients to bake the biological cake is essentially sitting

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inside an active microwave oven. No complex biology could ever

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survive the radiation environment long enough to evolve.

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Speaker 1: It's like assuming anyone with an oven and some flour

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can bake a cake. But then you realize that baking powder,

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the one tiny specific ingredient you absolutely need to make

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the cake rise, only exists in a single grocery store

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on the other side of the planet.

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Speaker 2: That is a perfect analogy, And.

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Speaker 1: When you finally get to that grocery store you find

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out it's actively burning to the ground.

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Speaker 2: That perfectly encapsulates the dilemma. Meanwhile, look at where we are.

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outer spiral arms of the Milky Way, where it's safe safe. Yes,

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but the background levels of phosphorus out here are mathematically

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the lowest by all statistical rights. The dust cloud that

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formed Earth shouldn't have had anywhere near enough phosphorus to

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support a rich, globally interconnected biosphere.

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Speaker 1: So how did we get it?

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Speaker 2: We appear to be the beneficiaries of a freakishly rare

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highly localized phosphorus Enrichmond event. Perhaps a specific type of

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supernova went off right next to our protosolar nebula just

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Speaker 1: So all those exoplanets we keep reading about in the news,

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you know, NASA's Kepler mission and the James Webb Space

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Telescope identifying billions of potentially habitable worlds.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the rocky planets sitting at the perfect distance from

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Speaker 1: Where water can pool on the surface. Are you saying

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those are just illusions?

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Speaker 2: It forces us to severely narrow our definition of habitability.

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A planet can have oceans of liquid water, a perfectly

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in a typical phosphorus poor region of the galaxy.

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Speaker 1: It will be totally sterile.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely permanently sterile. We could be looking out at a

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galaxy filled with billions of perfect temperate water worlds that

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Speaker 1: That is deeply unsettling. But let's play the optimus for

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dusting of phosphorus.

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Speaker 2: Life should be good to.

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Speaker 1: Go right right, but it's not even close because we

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have to pivot from the chemical ingredients of life to

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the geological engine of the planet itself. The planet can't

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just be a dead rock. It has to be a machine, and.

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Speaker 2: This requires us to look deep underground, far past the

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oceans of the atmosphere. In the year two thousand, paleontologist

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Peter Ward and astronomer Donald Brownlee published a massive synthesis

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of geochemical and astrophysical data.

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Speaker 1: In their book Rarer Yes.

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Speaker 2: They highlighted an anomaly about Earth's composition that is often

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completely ignored when we search for exoplanets. When geologists analyze

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the baseline composition of ancient meteorites, which act as pristine

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time capsules.

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Speaker 1: Showing us the standard recipe of the dust cloud that

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Speaker 2: Exactly, they find a baseline ratio of elements, but Earth

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doesn't match that baseline. Earth has roughly eight to ten

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times the expected amount of uranium and about ten times

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the expected amount of thorium.

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Speaker 1: Uranium and thorium highly radioactive heavy metals. Why on Earth,

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pun intended, does a planet need to be practically glowing

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with radiation in its core to host life on the surface.

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Speaker 2: Because a planet needs an internal heat source that can

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last for billions of years, and radioactive decay is the

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ultimate planetary battery. Oh I See, when those massive uranium

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and thorium isotopes decay, they release heat, immense amounts of it.

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that dries the convection currents in the Earth's mantle.

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Speaker 1: And those convection currents are what drive plate tectonics exactly. Wait,

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plate tectonics, they think of earthquakes in California or volcanoes

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Speaker 2: It seems counterintuitive, but plate tectonics is the supreme planetary thermostat.

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It is the only known geological mechanism that can continuously

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recycle carbon dioxide on a global scale.

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Speaker 1: The carbonate silicate cycle.

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Speaker 2: Right now, yes, rain washes CO two out of the atmosphere,

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it binds with rocks, washes into the ocean, and falls

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to the seafloor. If that was the end of the story,

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the planet would lose all its greenhouse gases and freeze solid.

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Speaker 1: Like a permanent ice age exactly.

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melts it down, and eventually erupts that CO two back

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into the atmosphere through volcanoes.

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Speaker 1: So this constant recycling regulates Earth's climate over billions of years,

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it from becoming a permanently frozen ice ball or suffering

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a runaway greenhouse effect exact. So, without the radioactive metals,

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the tectonic plates freeze in place, the carbon cycle stops,

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and the planet's climate spirals out of control.

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heat does something even more vital. It powers the shield. Precisely,

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we have to go even deeper than the mantle, down

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to the outer core because of that immense radioactive heat.

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the Coriolis effect twists those convection currents of liquid metal

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into massive spirals.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and moving conductive fluid generates electrical currents, and those

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electrical currents generate a massive planetary magnetic field, the magnetosphere.

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Speaker 1: Which acts as an invisible force field projecting out into space.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it is the only thing standing between our

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fragile atmosphere and the solar.

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Speaker 1: Wind because the Sun is constantly blasting out a brutal

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super extreme of highly charged particles.

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Speaker 2: Without the magnetosphere to deflect that barrage, the solar wind

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would physically collide with our atmospheric molecules, ionizing them and

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literally stripping them away into deep space, molecule by molecule.

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Speaker 1: We don't even need to use computer models to prove this.

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We just have to look right next door, look.

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Speaker 2: At Mars exactly. Mars is a bit smaller than Earth's sure,

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but it also formed with far less of these radioactive

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Speaker 1: It cooled down too fast.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the internal dynamo ground to a halt. About four

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billion years ago, the magnetic field shut off, and the moment.

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wind relentlessly blasted Mars, stripping away its thick atmosphere, evaporating

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its oceans, and turning it into the freezing, irradiated desert

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Speaker 2: And look at Venus, roughly the exact same size and

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mass as Earth, but for reasons we are still trying

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to fully understand, likely related to its internal heat distribution

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and lack of water acting as a lubricant. Venus has

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no plate tectonics.

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with no way to be recycled into the mantle.

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Speaker 2: Right it triggered a runaway greenhouse effect, creating a toxic,

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crushing pressure cooker where the surface temperature can melt lead.

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Speaker 1: And even our own Moon, which was formed from the

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same exact bri cloud as Earth after a massive planetary collision,

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ended up with less than a quarter of Earth's thorium concentration.

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Speaker 2: It's incredibly rare.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me make sure I'm putting all these pieces together.

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We are constantly staring at these beautiful artist rendered images

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of Kepler exoplanets. We see these lovely blue oceans and

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fluffy white clouds, and we are just projecting Earth onto

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them because they sit in the habitable zone. Yes, we

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assume they're are like us, but our telescopes are totally

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blind to their internal engines.

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Speaker 2: Entirely blind. We can measure a planet in size, its mass,

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and its orbital period. We cannot look thousands of miles

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underground and measure the concentration of rare radioactive isotopes.

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Speaker 1: If the specific localized astrophysical violence required to enrich a

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forming planet with an exact massive overdose of thorium and

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uranium is a freak event, then true Earth analogs aren't

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one in five, like some of the optimistic Kepler data suggests.

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Speaker 2: They might be one in a billion.

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Speaker 1: We could be looking at a galaxy entirely populated by

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geologically dead rocks, planets with ticking clocks, where biology might

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spark only to be suffocated or stripped away into space

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before it ever has a chance to evolve past single cells.

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Speaker 2: It demands a complete paradigm shift in how we search

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for life. Habitability isn't just about location. It is about

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incredibly precise, incredibly rare geological engineering.

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Speaker 1: Right, but let's force ourselves to be optimistic again, against

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all statistical probability. A planet gets the phosphorus, it gets

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the massive dose of uranium, the core is spinning, the

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magnetic shield is up, the tectonic thermostat is running, and

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liquid water pools on the surface. Life actually emerges, which

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is a miracle in itself. Right, and we have this

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deeply ingrained, almost romanticized view that life is naturally harmonious.

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life that just wants to peacefully coexist with its environment.

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Speaker 2: But if you actually dig into the fossil record, life

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is ruthless, reckless, and highly self destructive.

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Speaker 1: Which forces us to examine one of the most profound

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and disturbing shifts in our understanding of evolutionary biology. We

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view biology as a stabilizing force, something that adapts to

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its environment. But if we look back two point four

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billion years ago, life on Earth didn't adapt. It perpetrated

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its own near complete annihilation.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the oxygen catastrophe. And to understand this,

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you really have to picture what Earth looked like back then.

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It wasn't a blue marble. Far from it right, very far.

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For the first billion or so years of life on Earth,

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the atmosphere was entirely devoid of free oxygen. It was

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this smoggy mix of nitrogen, carbon dioxide, and methane.

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Speaker 1: And the oceans were likely a murky green or orange

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saturated with dissolved unoxidized iron.

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Speaker 2: Exactly the dominant organisms on the planet were anaerobic. They

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evolved to thrive in this oxygen free environment.

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Speaker 1: Right to them, oxygen wasn't just unnecessary, it was a

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highly reactive, corrosive, lethal poison. It would literally rip their

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cell membranes apart exactly.

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Speaker 2: It creates free radicals that destroy organic chemistry. But then

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a specific type of microorganism called cyanobacteria evolved a radical

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new survival.

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Speaker 1: Strategy oxygenic photosynthesis.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they figured out how to use sunlight to split

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water molecules to harvest electrons for energy. It was an

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incredibly efficient power source. But splitting water leaves behind a

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waste product, which is free oxygen gas.

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Speaker 1: And they just started pumping this toxic waste into the environment.

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Speaker 2: According to deep geological analysis by researchers like Preston Cloud

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and Heinrich Holland who studied ancient rock formations, this newly

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produced oxygen didn't immediately fill the air.

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Speaker 1: Because the Earth essentially had a massive set of chemical

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shock absorbers.

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Speaker 2: Right for about four hundred million years, almost all the

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oxygen produced by the cyanobacteria was immediately absorbed by the

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dissolved iron in the oceans. The iron literally rusted, turned

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solid and fell to the seafloor.

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Speaker 1: Creating those massive banded iron formations that we still mine

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for steel today exactly. So for four hundred million years,

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these bacteria are just filling up the chemical garbage cans

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of the planet, entirely unaware of what's going to happen.

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When the cans get full, and.

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Speaker 2: Eventually the sink saturated, there was no more loose iron

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to absorb the waste, and suddenly the oxygen had nowhere

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to go but up.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: It flooded out of the oceans and into the atmosphere,

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rapidly raising oxygen levels from essentially zero to nearly two percent.

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Speaker 1: And for the anaerobic life that I ruled the planet

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for a billion years, this was an apocalyptic chemical weapons

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attack on a global scale.

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Speaker 2: It triggered the first and arguably the most severe mass

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extinction in the history of the planet.

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Speaker 1: The irony is so thick you could cut it. Oxygen,

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the absolute prerequisite for our existence, the breath of life,

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the reason we have high energy metabolism to power our brains.

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It was literally the first weapon of mass global destruction.

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It nearly wiped out the entire biosphere.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't just biological destruction. It was climatic that

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sudden influx of highly reactive oxygen reacted with the methane

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in the atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: Methane is a potent greenhouse gas that was keeping the

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early Earth warm.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly when the oxygen scrub the methane out of

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the sky, the planet's temperature plummeted, triggering the Huronian glaciation.

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Earth essentially froze over into a solid snowball for up

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to three hundred million years.

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Speaker 1: So life almost extinguished itself twice over, at first by

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chemical poisoning, then by freezing. Yes, and my mind immediately

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extrapolates this to the Fermi paradox. What if this isn't

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just an earth thing? What if this is a fundamental,

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inescapable law of biology.

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Speaker 2: It is a terrifying logical leap, but a necessary one.

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Does biological success inherently guarantee ecological collapse?

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Speaker 1: I mean, by definition, any highly successful evolutionary trait allows

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an organism to rapidly extract resources and excrete waste.

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Speaker 2: Right without natural predators or environmental checks. A highly successful

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species will blindly alter its environment until that environment becomes

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hostile to its own survival.

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Speaker 1: So picture millions of other worlds across the galaxy. They

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beat the chemical bottleneck. Biology sparks to life, It evolves,

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it thrives, it masters its environment, and then it inevitably

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chokes to death on the toxic byproducts of its own success.

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Speaker 2: The biosphere just constantly resets the evolutionary clock back to

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single celled sludge.

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Speaker 1: You never get complex plants, you never get multicellular animals,

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let alone intelligence, because the system fundamentally lacks foresight. We

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said here taking deep breasts of oxygen, thinking we are

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the pinnacle of evolution, when in reality we are just

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the incredibly lucky benefactors of a global poisoning event that

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happened to stumble into a frantic, fragile equilibrium.

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Speaker 2: Equilibrium is the perfect word. If the cyanobacteria had mutated

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to produce oxygen just a tiny fraction faster, or if

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the chemical sinks in the oceans had been just a

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bit smaller, the resulting snowball Earth could have permanently frozen

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the planet, shutting down the water cycle forever.

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Speaker 1: Life must navigate incredibly narrow, blind chemical tightropes just to

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avoid self elimination. Absolutely, okay, we've survived the lack of ingredients.

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We survived a dead planetary core, and we survived our

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own toxic waste. Now life has to actually look up

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and survive the galactic neighborhood. And let me tell you,

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the Milky Way is not a friendly place to raise

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a species. The geography of space itself is trying to

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kill us.

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Speaker 2: This is where modern astrophysics strips away the final illusion

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of a peaceful universe. In twenty twenty two, astronomers utilize

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the European Space Agencies Gaia spacecraft.

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Speaker 1: Guaya is this masterpiece of engineering right. It uses incredibly

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precise parallax measurements to track the exact positions, distances, and

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movements of over a billion stars.

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Speaker 2: Yes, using this data, scientists constructed the first truly comprehensive,

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high resolution through map of our immediate cosmic neighborhood, and

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what they found completely revolutionized our understanding of where we live.

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Speaker 1: They found out we were living inside a massive bubble,

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the local bubble.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Guya data revealed that our entire solar system

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is currently floating inside an enormous, oddly shaped cavity of hot,

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incredibly tenuous plasma that stretches roughly one thousand light years across.

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Speaker 1: And this cavity wasn't just sitting there, it was violently

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carved out.

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Speaker 2: The astrophysics team concluded it was created by the explosive

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force of approximately fifteen massive supernovae detonating in a chain

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reaction over the past fourteen million years.

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Speaker 1: The sequential massive explosions acted like a relentless cosmic snowplow,

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physically sweeping away the dense interstellar gas, dust, and particulate matter,

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leaving this massive void.

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Speaker 2: And the immediate reaction is, you know, fifteen supernovae going

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off nearby sounds terrifying.

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Speaker 1: But it's actually the exact opposite. Living inside the aftermath

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of that snowplow is the only reason we are alive.

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Speaker 2: Precisely, Research led by astronomer Catherine Zucker at the Space

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Telescope Science Institute demonstrated the profound protective benefits of this void.

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Outside the bubble, the galaxy is incredibly dense.

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Speaker 1: It's a constantly churning with cosmic rays right.

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Speaker 2: Which are high energy protons and atomic nuclei moving at

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near light speed expelled by supernovae and pulsars. When those

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cosmic grays hit a planet, they shatter atmosphereic molecules and

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rip right through biological tissue, causing double strand breaks in DNA.

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Speaker 1: But inside our cleared out local bubble, the ambient levels

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of these lethal cosmic rays are reduced by a massive factor,

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anywhere from two to ten times lower than the rest

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of the galaxy.

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Speaker 2: It is a protective quiet harbor situated in the middle

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of a raging cosmic hurricane.

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Speaker 1: But we haven't always been in this harbor. The Sun

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isn't stationary. It takes about two hundred and fifty million

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years to orbit the center of the galaxy. We are

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moving through space, and Zucker's research map to our trajectory

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backward turns out our solar system only drifted into this

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protective law bubble about five to six million years ago.

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Speaker 2: And that specific timeline is what makes anthropologists and evolutionary

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biologists sit up and pay attention.

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Speaker 1: Because five to six million years ago coincides almost perfectly

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with a massive shift on Earth. It aligns with a

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period of rapid global climate cooling, the receding of the

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dense African forests into open savannahs, and the exact evolutionary

480
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moment our early hominid ancestors were forced out of the

481
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trees started walking upright and massively accelerated their brain development.

482
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Speaker 2: The correlation is deeply provocative. We evolved our high intelligence,

483
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our complex societies, and our technological capacity exactly during the

484
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brief Fluke window when our planet happened to drift into

485
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a rare pocket of space sheltered from the worst of

486
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the galaxy's background radiation.

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Speaker 1: But the map reveals a terrifying reality for the rest

488
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of the galaxy. These protective bubbles aren't common. The data

489
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shows that only three to ten percent of the Milky

490
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Way's total volume consists of these low density safe zone cavities.

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Speaker 2: That means ninety to ninety seven percent of the galaxy

492
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is an unfiltered, radiation blasted wasteland.

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Speaker 1: It forces us to drastically recalculate the Drake equation. The

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vast majority of those potentially habitable Kepler planets we keep

495
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mentioning are sitting right in the thick of it.

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Speaker 2: They're located in dense spiral alarms where they are continuously

497
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bombarded by high energy particles from active star forming regions

498
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and dying stars.

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Speaker 1: The mutation rates on those planets would be absolutely astronomical

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complex stable DNA, which requires time and consistency to build

501
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complex nervous systems might simply be shredded over and over again.

502
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Evolution would be trapped in a state of chaotic irradiated flux.

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Speaker 2: Think about what this does to the possibility of an

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interconnected galaxy. Let's say, against all odds, another civilization manages

505
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to evolve inside a different safe bubble across the galaxy.

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Speaker 1: They look up at the stars, they build telescopes.

507
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Speaker 2: They're entirely trapped. These safe zones are tiny oases separated

508
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by thousands of light years of impossible, deadly radiation deserts.

509
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They can't physically cross it.

510
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Speaker 1: They might not even be able to transmit clear, uncorrupted

511
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radio signals through the dense ionized dust that separates us.

512
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The isolation is total, and.

513
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Speaker 2: We shouldn't get too comfortable because we aren't safely parked

514
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in our oasis forever. Our orbit guarantees we will eventually

515
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leave the bubble, which brings us to an even larger,

516
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more violent cycle of cosmic geography, the cosmic ray extinction cycle.

517
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Speaker 1: Because our orbit around the Milky Way isn't a flat,

518
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smooth circle.

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Speaker 2: No, it is much more chaotic than that. We are

520
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bobbing up and down through the flat plane of the

521
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galaxy like a horse on a carousel. We ride up

522
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above the disk, gravity pulls us back down, We plunge

523
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through the middle, and we pop out the bottom.

524
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Speaker 1: The whole vertical cycle takes about sixty four to seventy

525
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four million years.

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Speaker 2: And the astrophysics community, specifically researchers like Mikail Medvedev and

527
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Adrian Alot have modeled the terrifying consequences of this specific

528
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orbital geometry. You have to visualize the galactic midplane, the

529
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flat pancake like center of the spiral disk.

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Speaker 1: It is incredibly dense. It is packed with dark matter,

531
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dense molecular clouds, and stellar remnants.

532
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Speaker 2: But more importantly, the galaxy itself generated to magnetic bow

533
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shock as it moves through the universe, trapping immense amounts

534
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of cosmic rays in that dense midplane.

535
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Speaker 1: So every thirty two to thirty seven million years, as

536
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we bob up or down, Earth passes directly through this

537
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highly irradiated chaotic collision zone. We essentially stick our head

538
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out of the protective water, get blasted by a shotgun

539
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of radiation, and dive back down.

540
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Speaker 2: That is exactly what happens when we cross that dense

541
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midplane the heliosphere. The magnetic bubble generated by our Sun

542
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that offers us some localized protection gets compressed and overwhelmed

543
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by the sheer density of the interstellar medium.

544
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Speaker 1: Our exposure to high energy particles spikes massively.

545
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Speaker 2: These particles crash into the upper atmosphere, creating cascades of

546
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secondary radiation. This ionizes atmospheric molecules, shreds the ozone layer,

547
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and allows lethal ultraviolet radiation from our own sun to

548
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reach the surface.

549
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Speaker 1: It also dramatically increases cloud nucleation, which can reflect sunlight

550
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and triggers sudden, severe ice ages.

551
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Speaker 2: If you look at the fossil record, there is a

552
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very disturbing thirty million year periodicity to minor mass extinctions

553
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that lines up perfectly with this mid plane crossing.

554
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Speaker 1: I want to apply this to a hypothetical alien civilization.

555
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Let's say a species evolves. They are smart, they build cities,

556
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they discover electricity, they build computers. We know from our

557
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:32,359
own limited experience, like the Carrington event in eighteen fifty nine,

558
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where a solar flare melted telegraph wires, that modern electronics

559
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are uniquely exquisitely vulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic spikes.

560
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Speaker 2: A massive, sustained cosmic ray storm wouldn't just give these

561
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aliens elevated cancer rates. It would induce massive currents in

562
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their power grids, frying their transformers.

563
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Speaker 1: It would flip the bits in their computer memory, collapsing

564
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their digital infrastructure.

565
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Speaker 2: It suggests a horrifying, inescapable biological metronomeation might rise master

566
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its local planetary environment and war, cure disease, and begin

567
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building the delicate, massive infrastructure required for interstellar communication.

568
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Speaker 1: And then, like clockwork, their solar system plunges into the

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galactic midplane. The ensuing radiation storm wipes out their delicate technology,

570
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shatters their global supply chains, and sends them crashing back

571
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to the Stone Age, or it simply extinguishes them entirely

572
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via climate collapse.

573
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Speaker 2: It's a cosmic reset button pressed every thirty million years.

574
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Speaker 1: You could have civilizations constantly rising and falling in with

575
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them with this orbital wave. They are like intricate sand

576
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castles being built by a child on a beach. They

577
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get complex and beautiful right up until the inevitable tide

578
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comes in and washes them away.

579
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Speaker 2: They're trapped in a Sissifian loop, constantly having their progress

580
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wiped out, just before they can build a radio telescope

581
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powerful enough to say hello to the rest of the universe.

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Speaker 1: But this brings us to a massive contradiction. We've spent

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all this time establishing the immense biological, chemical, and astronomical hurdles.

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It is unbelievably hard to survive. However, the universe is

585
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thirteen point eight billion years old. The Milky Way alone

586
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has hundreds of billions of stars if you.

587
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Speaker 2: Run the math. Even with all these bottlenecks, the sheer

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scale of deep time suggests that surely someone else made

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it through the galllet before us, millions of years.

590
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Speaker 1: Before us, and we have been actively desperately listening for them.

591
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Why is it so quiet? Let's talk about how hard

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we have actually listened, because I don't think the average

593
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person grasps the scale of our search. It's not just

594
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Jodie Foster with a pair of headphones in the movie Contact.

595
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Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, the Russian billionaire Yuri Milner back to

596
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a one hundred million dollar project called Breakthrough Listen. It

597
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was spearheaded by Andrew Simien and a massive team at

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UC Berkeley.

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Speaker 1: This was the most comprehensive, technologically aggressive search for extraterrestrial

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intelligence in the history of human civilization.

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Speaker 2: They bought thousands of hours of dedicated observation time on

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some of the premier astronomical instruments on the planet, most

603
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notably the massive one hundred meters Green Bank telescope in

604
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West Virginia and the Park's radio telescope in Australia.

605
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Speaker 1: The sensitivity parameters of this search are almost impossible to overstate.

606
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To give you an idea, if there was a civilization

607
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twenty five light years away using an aviation radar system

608
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equivalent to what we use at a standard commercial airport breakthrough,

609
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listen would have detected it.

610
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Speaker 2: Think about the implication of that. We aren't just looking

611
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for them to beam a giant laser directly at us.

612
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We're listening for their accidental noise. We could hear their

613
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air traffic control.

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Speaker 1: And the team didn't just point the dishes blindly into

615
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the dark. They surveyed three hundred and twenty seven of

616
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the closest, most mathematically promising stars. They spent hours looking

617
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at Kepler four to fifty two B, which is practically

618
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Earth's twin. They stared at the Trappis I system, which

619
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has seven rocky planets packed into a single system.

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Speaker 2: They looked right next door at our closest neighbor, Proximus Century.

621
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They scanned billions of individual radio channels simultaneously, focusing heavily

622
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on the water hole.

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Speaker 1: That's the quiet frequency range between one point four to

624
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two and one point six six gigaherds, where background cosmic

625
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noise is lowest.

626
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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, exactly. The methodology was flawless. Nature, whether it's

627
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a pulsar or a quasar, produces broad band radio noise,

628
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its static across many frequencies. Only artificial engineer technology produces

629
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narrow band radio signals, a tight, powerful spike on a

630
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single frequency.

631
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Speaker 1: They comb through petabytes of data using advanced machine learning algorithms,

632
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:33,599
filtering out our own satellite interference, looking for that one

633
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unmistakable spike that would prove we are not alone. And

634
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the result of all that money, time and unprecedented engineering

635
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sensitivity absolute zero. Nothing, not a whisper, not a stray

636
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radar ping, not a localized television broadcast, not a navigation beacon.

637
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They even did massive follow up surveys pointing the telescopes

638
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at the center of the Milky Way, and then outward

639
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,759
at the Andromeda Galaxy, our massive galactic neighbor containing a

640
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true billion stars.

641
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Speaker 2: They looked at a trillion stars at once, and still nothing.

642
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The techno signature desert is vast, silent, and terrifyingly empty.

643
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Speaker 1: The implication of this null result is exceptionally heavy. It

644
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forces us into a very tight binary corner. Either technological

645
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intelligence is so staggeringly impossibly rare that it happens exactly

646
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once per galaxy, meaning we are essentially the only ones here.

647
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Speaker 2: Or every single advanced civilization universally with that exception, chooses

648
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not to use radio communication.

649
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Speaker 1: Which makes absolutely no sense to our current understanding of

650
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physics and engineering. I mean, radio is cheap, it travels

651
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at the speed of light, and it penetrates interstellar dust

652
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clouds easily. Why would everyone abandon it.

653
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Speaker 2: Unless, well, unless they don't abandon it, they just transcend

654
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the need for macroscale communication entirely. This takes us into

655
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the realm of futurism, and things get incredibly trippy.

656
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Speaker 1: It does require a shift in perspective. In twenty twelve,

657
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futurist John Smart formalized a concept he called the transcension hypothesis.

658
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It directly challenges our fundamental, heavily biased assumption that advanced

659
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civilizations will inevitably build giant starships and aggressively colonize the galaxy.

660
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Speaker 2: We picture them building massive dice and spheres to harvest

661
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the entire energy output of their stars and conquering neighboring systems,

662
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because that's what a biological species driven by resource scarcity

663
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and imperial history would do.

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Speaker 1: Right, we just project eighteenth century human colonial history onto aliens.

665
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We need more land, Let's build boats, we need more planets,

666
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Let's build spaceships. We assume the end goal of technology

667
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is outward expansion.

668
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Speaker 2: But Smart argues that the laws of physics actually heavily

669
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favor the opposite trajectory. Physics favors the small. If you

670
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look at the trajectory of our own human technology, the

671
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ultimate goal has always been doing more with less space

672
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and less energy.

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Speaker 1: We went from vacuum tubes the size of a room

674
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to billions of microscopic transistors packed onto a silicon chip

675
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the size of a fingernail.

676
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Speaker 2: The logical endpoint of this trajectory is shrinking technology down

677
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to the nanoscale. Eventually reaching the quantum level, or perhaps

678
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even operating near the plank length, the absolute smallest measurable

679
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distance in physics.

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Speaker 1: So instead of expanding outward into the macro universe, they

681
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collapse inward into the micro universe.

682
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Speaker 2: Exactly because of the thermodynamic efficiency. Why build a clumsy, fragile,

683
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energy hungry biological body to travel thousands of years through

684
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a dangerous irradiated vacuum when you can digitize your consciousness.

685
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Speaker 1: According to Landauer's principle in physics, the minimum energy required

686
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to erase a bit of information scales with temperature.

687
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Speaker 2: Right, if an entire civilization uploads themselves into a super

688
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dense computational substrate, they could park that computer in the

689
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freezing depths of deep space to maximize computational efficiency, drawing

690
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trace power from the ambient background heat of a dead star.

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Speaker 1: Inside that digitized utopia, computation can happen at the speed

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of light. Subjective time decouples from objective reality.

693
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Speaker 2: A subjective millennium of rich, complexed experience could pass for them,

694
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while only a single objective second that ticks by in

695
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the real universe.

696
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Speaker 1: I am trying to wrap my head around the scale

697
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of this. If an entire species, an entire planetary history,

698
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uploads themselves into a super dense, hyper efficient thumb drive

699
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the size of a grain of sand. They become entirely

700
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untethered from our physical reality.

701
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Speaker 2: They don't need to broadcast massive radio signals to chat

702
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with us. We are operating at a geological lumbering pace

703
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compared to them. We're like slow moving trees to them.

704
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Speaker 1: But here is a thought that I cannot get out

705
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of my head. We constantly detect these mysterious, incredibly brief,

706
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powerful bursts of energy from deep space, called fast radio

707
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bursts or FRBs. They last for milliseconds, but they output

708
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the energy of a million suns. What if fast radio

709
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bursts are actually zipped files.

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Speaker 2: That is a highly speculative yet conceptually brilliant extrapolation of

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data compression physics.

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Speaker 1: Think about the mechanics of it. What if a physical

713
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civilization realizes their host star is becoming on stable, or

714
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they just decide to fully transcend into the digital realm,

715
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:07,039
but they want to backup, so they build these massive, automated,

716
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,440
ultra powerful server transmitters, and right.

717
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Before they turn the lights off in the physical biological world,

718
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they take the highly compressed encrypted digital consciousness of their

719
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,360
entire species.

720
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Speaker 1: Billions of minds, all their art, their history, and they

721
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,880
blast it across the cosmos in a fraction of a second.

722
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To minimize energy waste, they are just throwing their highly

723
00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:30,639
compressed digital seeds into the cosmic wind, hoping some younger

724
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,079
civilization out there eventually catches the signal, figures out the

725
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:38,360
compression algorithm, builds a suitable computer, and unzips them into

726
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a new server.

727
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Speaker 2: It paints a picture of a universe that isn't actually empty,

728
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,719
but rather fundamentally disconnected from our primitive physical reality. We're

729
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,360
looking for structural engineering, bridges, lasers, radio chatter, and they

730
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,360
have evolved into pure dense information.

731
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Speaker 1: The cosmos might be full of these digital ghosts, entirely

732
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locked in computational ice. They are there, but they have

733
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permanently left the.

734
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Speaker 2: Physical chat transcendence honestly sounds incredibly peaceful, escaping the brutal

735
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physics of the universe into a digital heaven of your

736
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own making. But we have to look at the dark

737
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side of the coin.

738
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Speaker 1: What if they aren't broadcasting because they're transcendent. What if

739
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the universe is quiet because the loud ones were systematically

740
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hunted and killed.

741
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Speaker 2: This is where the Fermi paradox transitions from an astronomical

742
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:28,760
mystery into a literal survival horror scenario. We have to

743
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,400
introduce the concept of the berserker probe extermination.

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Speaker 1: Back in nineteen eighty three, a physicist named Frank Tipler

745
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published a paper that was so deeply viscerally unsettling that

746
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NASA actually tried to quietly distance itself from his conclusions.

747
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Speaker 2: Tipler took a mathematical concept originally developed in nineteen forty

748
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eight by the genius mathematician John von Neumann. Von Neuman

749
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,599
proved mathematically that it's possible to design a machine that

750
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can self replicate. A machine that lands on an asteroid

751
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,239
minds the iron and silicon builds a perfect copy of itself,

752
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and now you have two machines.

753
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Speaker 1: And the power of exponential growth is terrifying when applied

754
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to cosmic timescales. If a civilization builds just one single

755
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:12,639
self replicating probe and equips it with even relatively slow

756
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,519
sublight engines, it flies to a nearby star.

757
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Speaker 2: It replicates. Those two fly to two more stars. They

758
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become fourer than eight than sixteen within about ten million years, which,

759
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as we've discussed, is a mere blink of an eye

760
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,199
in the thirteen billion year history of the galaxy. Those

761
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probes would exponentially blanket the entire Milky.

762
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Speaker 1: Way, every single star system, every single rock would have

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a probe sitting in it.

764
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Speaker 2: So Tipler looked at this undeniable math and said, well,

765
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the galaxy is incredibly old. Someone somewhere should have built

766
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one of these von Neumann probes by now. If they did,

767
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,159
they should be absolutely everywhere. We should see them in

768
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our own asteroid belt. But we don't.

769
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Speaker 1: And his conclusion wasn't that the math was wrong or

770
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that aliens don't exist. His conclusion was that they do exist,

771
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but they are programmed.

772
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Speaker 2: To It comes down to ultimate threat assessment. If you

773
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are a hyperadvanced ancient civilization, what is the greatest long

774
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term threat to your survival? Isn't a supernova or a

775
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black hole. You have the physics to engineer around natural disasters.

776
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Speaker 1: The only genuine existential threat is another younger civilization that

777
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,719
might arise, develop technology faster than you expect, and decide

778
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they want your resources.

779
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Speaker 2: So the most ruthlessly logical, mathematically sound strategy for self

780
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preservation is to send out von Noman probes with hostile

781
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,599
programming berserkers, yes, automated immortal, self replicating weapon systems that

782
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spread silently to every star system, embed themselves in the dark,

783
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cold outer asteroid belts, and just watch. They wait.

784
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Speaker 1: They monitor the inner planets for any sign of a

785
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biosphere producing unnatural radio waves or atmospheric signs of industrial

786
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:53,440
pollution like CFCs, and.

787
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Speaker 2: The precise moment that primitive species crosses the technological threashold

788
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where they might one day become a threat. The probe

789
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wakes up, alters the trajectory of a massive asteroid, drops

790
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it on the planet, exterminates the emerging competition, and quietly

791
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:08,639
goes back to.

792
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Speaker 1: Sleep, which brings up something that gives me literal chills

793
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000
every time I look up at the sky. In twenty seventeen,

794
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,880
astronomers detected the first interstellar object ever observed passing through

795
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,159
our solar system, Muama.

796
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Speaker 2: It was highly anomalous. It was shaped like a flat

797
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,360
disk or a long cigar, had no cometary tail, no

798
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dust cloud. Yet it accelerated as it left our Solar

799
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,519
System in a way that wasn't entirely consistent with just

800
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:32,760
a normal chunk of rock out gassing out of the

801
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,320
Sun's heat.

802
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:38,079
Speaker 1: Now, I have to be clear, scientists overwhelmingly favor natural explanations.

803
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,599
It's almost certainly a weird chunk of nitrogen ice or

804
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:43,360
a fractured planetary fragment.

805
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Speaker 2: It is absolutely crucial to emphasize that the scientific consensus

806
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:51,840
leans heavily toward a natural, non artificial origin for Wahoma.

807
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but you cannot help but feel

808
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,400
a deep primate dread when you look at the parameters

809
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,400
of that object. I Umugumu was a dormant berserker probe.

810
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,159
Speaker 2: What if it coasted to our system, scanned our radio chatter,

811
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,719
saw our atmospheric carbon spikes, cataloged our primitive nuclear capabilities,

812
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,199
and mathematically calculated whether we had crossed the extermination threshold.

813
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: Yet, did it decide we were too pathetic to kill?

814
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Or did it send a signal back to the armada.

815
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Speaker 2: It plays directly into our deepest survival instincts. It is

816
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,960
the fear of the predator in the tall grass, and

817
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,840
it leads us seamlessly into a concept that expands this

818
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,719
localized paranoia to a terrifying galactic scale, the dark Forest reality.

819
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: Yes, this concept was beautifully and terrifyingly explored by the

820
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,400
Chinese sci fi author Lu Sixon in his Three Body

821
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,760
Problem trilogy. But the reason it resonates so hard is

822
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,719
because it is deeply grounded in very real, very cold,

823
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,920
very mathematical game theory.

824
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: The premise is devastatingly simple. The universe is a dark forest.

825
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Every civilization is an armed hunter, stalking through the trees

826
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,599
like a ghost, gently pushing aside branches that the path,

827
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,159
and trying to tread without sound.

828
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:06,559
Speaker 1: The dark force theory hinges on one unbreakable, universally frustrating

829
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:09,559
rule of physics, which is the absolute speed limit of light.

830
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:14,880
Because of the vast incomprehensible distances between stars, interstellar communication

831
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,119
is incredibly agonizingly slow.

832
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: You can ever truly know the current intentions of your

833
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,920
cosmic neighbor. This creates an unsolvable chain of suspicion. Let's

834
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,519
say we detect a civilization a thousand light years away.

835
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:29,320
We're thrilled. We sent a radio message saying hello, we

836
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,360
come in peace, Let's share knowledge.

837
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,679
Speaker 1: But by the time our message physically reaches them and

838
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,239
their reply reaches us, two thousand years have passed.

839
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:40,039
Speaker 2: Think about human history. Two thousand years ago, we went

840
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:43,719
from fighting with bronze swords in the Roman Empire to

841
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,360
splitting the atom and walking on the moon in less

842
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:46,960
time than that.

843
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Exactly in the time it takes to exchange a single

844
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:54,719
basic greeting, the alien society could have completely revolutionized its

845
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,159
philosophy and technological capacity. They could have been peaceful, enlightened

846
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,199
philosophers when sent the message, but in the intervening one

847
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,960
thousand years they suffered a military coup, exhausted their local resources,

848
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,880
and are now an aggressively expansionist empire.

849
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: They could have developed a relativistic kill vehicle capable of

850
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,800
shattering our sun.

851
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:18,079
Speaker 1: So because of this insurmountable lag in communication, game theory

852
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:21,800
kicks in. It's the ultimate prisoner's dilemma. But the penalty

853
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,440
for guessing wrong isn't a few years in jail, it

854
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:28,159
is the total, irreversible extinction of your entire species.

855
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: You cannot risk trusting them, and you know, because they

856
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,519
are intelligent, that they know they cannot risk trusting you.

857
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:37,480
So the only mathematically safe rational strategy in the dark

858
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:41,119
forest is preemptive elimination. The absolute moment you see a

859
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,679
spark of fire in the dark. You don't wave hello.

860
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,199
Speaker 1: Isshoe in a dark forest. Survival belongs exclusively to the silent,

861
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,440
the ancient advanced civilizations, the Apex predators of the galaxy,

862
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,519
who have survived for billions of years, have learned the

863
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:58,800
hard way to hide their heat signatures, to cloak their communications,

864
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,679
to build ice and spheres that don't leak in fra

865
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:04,440
red radiation, and to watch the skies with their finger

866
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:06,239
constantly on the trigger.

867
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: Which highlights our own staggering, unbelievable arrogance. We have been

868
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,400
blasting television broadcasts, military radar and radio signals into space

869
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,800
for the better part of a century. We literally beamed

870
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,760
the Arecibo message in nineteen seventy four right at the

871
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,239
M thirteen star cluster.

872
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: Frank Drake and Carl Sagan encoded our DNA structure, our

873
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,960
population size, and a highly detailed map of exactly where

874
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,440
our solar system is located.

875
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: We are literally the toddlers wandering through a pitch black

876
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,559
forest full of ancient armed, terrified hunters, shining a massive

877
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,000
flashlight around and screaming at the top of our lungs.

878
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:41,920
Is anybody out there? Does anyone want to play?

879
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: If the dark forest hypothesis holds true. The silence of

880
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,480
the universe is not an indication of its emptiness. It

881
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:51,840
is an indication of its absolute terror. The great silence

882
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,119
is just the breathless quiet of one hundred million civilizations

883
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:57,920
holding their collective breath, waiting to see what happens to

884
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,360
the naive fools who just broadcast did their exact.

885
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: Coordinate We might have already made the fatal air. The

886
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,400
bullet could already be halfway here.

887
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Okay, take a breath that is incredibly heavy. But whether

888
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:13,440
it's because we are surrounded by cosmic radiation, deserts, hunted

889
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,559
by alienai, isolated by insurmountable distances, or doomed by our

890
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:22,400
own biological success, the fundamental math of the Drake equation

891
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,159
still says the galaxy should be full of life.

892
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,559
Speaker 2: And the rigorous observation of the Fermi paradox definitively says

893
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,599
it is empty. This glaring contradiction means there is a

894
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:35,559
wall somewhere, a barrier that almost no one can cross.

895
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:38,480
Let's talk about the final concept, the great filter.

896
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety six, an economist named Robin Hanson published

897
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,119
a paper that forced the scientific community to confront a

898
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,119
very grim statistical reality, he formalized the concept of the

899
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:49,719
great filter.

900
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:53,119
Speaker 2: Hanson looked at the timeline of the universe and reasoned

901
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,760
that the path from a lifeless rock spinning in space

902
00:46:56,119 --> 00:47:00,800
to a galaxy spanning starfaring civilization involves are of critical

903
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,400
evolutionary steps. He identified roughly nine of them.

904
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:07,559
Speaker 1: Right, things like a suitable star system forms with the

905
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:12,719
right metals, Reproductive molecules like RNA miraculously assemble from dead chemistry,

906
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:17,840
Simple single celled prokaryotic life begins. The incredibly rare leap

907
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,760
to complex multicellular eukaryotic life happens. Tool using animals develop

908
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,800
large brains, and so on, all the way up to

909
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,559
colonizing other star systems.

910
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: Exactly now, because we have searched the sky and see

911
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,400
exactly zero space sharing civilizations out there, Hanson concluded that

912
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,280
one of these specific steps must be nearly impossible to pass.

913
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,840
It acts as a cosmic bottleneck, a sieve that ruthlessly

914
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,199
filters out ninety nine point ninety nine to nine percent

915
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:43,239
of all attempts at life.

916
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,199
Speaker 1: So the terrifying question isn't if the filter exists. The

917
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,800
silent sky is absolute proof that it exists. The only

918
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,159
question that matters to us right now is where are

919
00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:53,199
we relative to the filter. Is it in our past

920
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,679
or is it waiting for us in our future.

921
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:58,079
Speaker 2: If the filter is behind us, for example, if the

922
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:01,719
leap from simple single cells bacteria to complex cells of

923
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,360
the nucleus is a freak, one in a trillion quantum

924
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,280
accident that almost never happens anywhere else in the universe,

925
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,719
then we are safe. We are the exceptionally lucky lottery winners.

926
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,559
Speaker 1: The galaxy is completely empty because almost nothing ever made

927
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:18,000
it past that first biological hurdle, but we did.

928
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: I used to sleep really well at night believing that

929
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:23,440
I thought, Wow, Earth is just special. But then you

930
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,000
look at the recent data coming out of astrobiology and

931
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,960
planetary science.

932
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:30,599
Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, NASA announced that the basic building blocks

933
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:35,639
of life, complex amino acids organic molecules, are absolutely everywhere.

934
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,199
We find them on frozen comets, we find them inside

935
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,280
meteorites that crash into Earth. We find them floating in

936
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,840
massive light year wide clouds in deep interstellar space.

937
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: And the more we discover that the chemical precursors for

938
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,119
life are common, the more terrifying our situation.

939
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: Becomes because if the ingredients for life are everywhere, the

940
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,400
filter isn't behind us, it means the early steps are

941
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,760
actually incredibly easy. It means millions of planets probably developed

942
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,800
simple life, Millions probably develop oceans full of fission animals,

943
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:08,639
millions probably develop intelligence, discover fire, invent the wheel.

944
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,199
Speaker 2: But we still don't see anyone out there, which means

945
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,880
the bottleneck, the impossible wall, isn't biological. It is waiting

946
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,159
for us in the future. It is in front of us.

947
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:22,559
Speaker 1: And if the great filter lies ahead, it implies something

948
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deeply tragic. It implies that almost every single civilization that

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reaches our exact level of technological development inevitably, invariably fails

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to survive the next step.

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Speaker 2: They unlock the secrets of physics, they build global societies,

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and then they confidently walk right off a cliff.

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Speaker 1: So what does a future filter actually look like. I mean,

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we've already had a few dress rehearsals. We invented nuclear

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weapons in nineteen forty five, proving definitively that a species

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can develop the technological power to unilaterally annihilate itself in

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an afternoon.

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Speaker 2: But nukes might just be the appetizer. What about artificial superintelligence.

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What if every single civilization eventually builds a machine vastly

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smarter than themselves, and the machine immediately deduces that biological

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life is an inefficient use of resources and quietly wipes

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them out.

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Speaker 1: We must also consider the rapid democratization of synthetic biology.

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As gene editing technology like Crisper becomes cheaper, more precise,

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and more accessible, the barrier to creating a civilization ending

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pathogen drops significantly.

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Speaker 2: What happens when a bioengineered pandemic isn't a state sponsored

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weapon but the project of a single nihilistic individual in

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a garage laboratory. Or consider severe irreversible climate change or

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nanotechnology run abook the theoretical gray goose scenario where microscopic

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self replicating machines consume the entire biosphere for raw materials.

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Speaker 1: It essentially boils down to the ultimate test of wisdom

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versus power. Every civilization across the cosmos eventually discovers the

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fundamental forces of physics. They unlock the destructive power of

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the atom, they unlock the source code of the genome,

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and they unlock silicon logic.

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Speaker 2: But the window of time between getting that world ending

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technology and developing the necessary sociological wisdom required not to

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use it. That window might be impossibly narrow, it might

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just be a few decades, and mathematically speaking, almost everyone

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fails the test.

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Speaker 1: If we are typical species, and there is no scientific

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reason to assume humanity is mathematically special, then we are

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rapidly approaching the exact threshold where countless ancient civilizations before

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us met their violent end. The filter is.

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Speaker 2: Looming, which brings us to the end of our journey today.

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Let's synthesize everything we've talked about.

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Speaker 1: We've walked through a literal cosmic house of horrors. The

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agonizingly rare chemical ingredients, the necessity of highly radioactive planetary cores,

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the suffocating oxygen catastrophes, the blinding radiation blizzards, the digital

991
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ghost towns, the hidden predators, and the dark forest, and

992
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the looming, impassable wall of the great Filter.

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Speaker 2: When you lay all of that out, being the only

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ones left isn't just a terrifying, isolating thought. It places

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an absolutely unbearable amount of responsibility squarely on our shoulders.

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Speaker 1: If the universe truly is a graveyard and we are

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the only spark of consciousness, left in a trillion galaxy expanse. Then,

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surviving our own technology isn't just a political goal. It

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isn't just about saving our own skins or boosting the economy.

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It is a cosmic imperative.

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Speaker 2: We are the universe's only way of knowing itself, of

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observing its own beauty. If we fail the test and

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snuff out this fragile flame, the cosmos returns to eternal,

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unthinking darkness.

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Speaker 1: But I want to leave you with one final thought

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that completely flips the script on everything we've discussed. We

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always assume we are the prey. We assume we are

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the ones who need to hide from the berserker probes,

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or that we are the ones who are going to

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trip over the great filter and go extinct. But what

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if we actually survive? What if we pass the test,

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master our technology and start spreading to other stars.

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Speaker 2: The implications of our survival create a new paradox.

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Speaker 1: Exactly if we know the Dark Force is real, and

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we know that any emerging civilization could eventually become a

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threat to us, what will we do to guarantee our

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own survival for the next billion years? Are we going

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to sit around and wait for an alien species to

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nuke us, or.

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Speaker 2: In our infinite wisdom and desire to protect human life,

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will we be the ones who build the von Neumann probes?

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Will we be the ones seating the asteroid belts of

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alien worlds with dormant planet killers.

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Speaker 1: What if humanity doesn't just survive the great filter? What

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if humanity ultimately becomes a great filter for everyone else

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in the galaxy.

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Speaker 2: It is the darkest possible interpretation of survival. We become

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the very monsters we are currently terrified of, simply to

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ensure the forest stays quiet.

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Speaker 1: So I want to turn this directly to you listening

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right now. I want to know where you stand. If

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humanity manages to survive our own technological adolescence, if we

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beat the odds and colonize the stars, do you think

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we will be the peaceful older siblings of the cosmos

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guiding new life? Or do you think, deep down in

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our paranoid primate DNA, we will build the berserker probes

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and become the apex predators of dark forest to protect ourselves.

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Drop a comment below, let us know your theory and

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tell us how you think this cosmic story ends. Let's

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keep this conversation going until next time, keep unraveling those threads,

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and remember, the next time you step outside and look

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up at that beautiful, silent, starlit graveyard, tread carefully