WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:07.440 Big Food and on. 2 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:08.320 With Cliff and Bubo. 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:12.439 These guys are your favorites, so like say subscribe and 4 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:13.119 raid it. 5 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:16.199 I'm stuck and me. 6 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:23.600 Greatest on Bush today and listening, oh watching Limb always 7 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:29.199 keep its watching. And now you're hosts Cliff Barrickman and 8 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:30.399 James Bubo Fay. 9 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:31.920 Greetings, Bobo. 10 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:32.640 How you doing? Man? 11 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:36.119 Go it's up, Cliff, Oh, lots of stuff, lots of stuff. 12 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:38.560 Matt Prode, how you doing. I'm hanging in there a 13 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:42.000 little under the weather, but hanging in there. Traveling like 14 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:43.679 you were this past week will always get you sick. 15 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.679 I got sick after last week's travel kind of sucked. 16 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:48.880 I still quite haven't shaken it because I've been out 17 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:50.880 in the woods like two or three days this week 18 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:55.159 because stuff is happening and the weather's uncooperative, and so 19 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:57.679 I've been very, very wet, and even though I feel better, 20 00:00:57.920 --> 00:00:59.960 I just can't quite shake the end of my sickness 21 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.000 because I keep going out in the rain to do things. 22 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.719 I ran out a high fever yesterday, but yeah, I'm 23 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:07.879 sure it's something I picked up with the one of 24 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.640 the various airports that I rolled through on the way 25 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.519 back home. So just trying to fight through it and 26 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:15.719 get back to a normality. 27 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.400 Whenever I start feeling sick, I would take two whole 28 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.719 heads of garlic, like you know, big heads of garlic, 29 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:23.760 and cut all the clothes up, mince them all up 30 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:28.480 and cook some pasta with some butter, and then just 31 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:30.680 dump in like two hoole clothes at garlic and just 32 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:33.400 it'd be like do you do a knock out? Everything? 33 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.760 Like whatever I had would be gone, like within twelve hours. 34 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:40.400 I definitely prescribed to the raw garlic diet when I 35 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.359 am sick at one hundred. 36 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:44.359 Percent, you gotta do a ton of it. Though. 37 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.879 Oh yeah, I usually do like three to five clothes raw. 38 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:50.200 I don't cook it. I do it just straight and 39 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:51.120 I just like braw dog it. 40 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:53.920 Yeah, I put it on raw, I spoil the news, 41 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:56.560 put butter on them. Then I throw the garlic on. Yeah. 42 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:58.400 Garlic's one of the best things for you when you're sick, 43 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:01.879 when you if you can eat the clove isn't exactly 44 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:03.640 the easiest thing, especially if you're new at it. 45 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:05.959 Well, you get it's bad. It's bad because that's what 46 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.199 I found out because I was eating them hole and 47 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.000 then I found out how bad that was. It eats 48 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.360 holes in your stomach. You gotta you gotta slice it 49 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:13.439 up good, mince it up. 50 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:16.360 Oh yeah, I think as long as what works for 51 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:18.280 me is if I eat crackers or something with it, 52 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.759 crackers or bread or something. I particularly like saltines with 53 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:21.439 it for some reason. 54 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:24.680 Yeah, you gotta slice it. You gotta make it really small. 55 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.240 I think it absorbs way way better. And it doesn't 56 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.360 like deposit and set on one spot and then you know, 57 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:33.159 cause an ulcer. 58 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:35.319 Well, isn't that what chewing does. 59 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:39.960 Cliff, as you called chewing, I have referred a mastication masticating. 60 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.800 It does not thoroughly pulpizers as much. 61 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:48.400 Ignorant Hick, I love it well anyways. So yeah, we're 62 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.400 all getting over some stuff. Bobo seems the only one 63 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:53.039 with an iron constitution who's not sick at all right now. 64 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.280 And I hope you get better soon, Matt. Tis the 65 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:59.240 season when things start changing, you know. But I guess, uh, 66 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.240 we had a Class B sighting this past week. I'm 67 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:06.199 covering hours now in the museum. I guess I should back. Yeah, 68 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:10.520 yeah you can do that. Yeah you can have a 69 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.479 Class B siding. Indeed, no, no, you can have a 70 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:14.319 class B siding. 71 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:17.639 Oh or you're not positive? 72 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:20.400 Yeah, yeah, well, you know, let's talk about that, because 73 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:23.199 I heard class A and class B thrown around pretty 74 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.039 willy nilly a lot of times people who don't seem 75 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:29.960 to understand what those designations mean, you know, and in 76 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.120 bigfoot land those are kind of important. They become part 77 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:35.879 of the like the language, you know that the it's 78 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.479 what we all use to throw around. And of course 79 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.080 Matt Moneymaker for the BFROO, he made these terms up 80 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:45.360 to kind of classify as his the sightings and reports 81 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:49.639 that were coming in and generally speaking, uh, it has 82 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.159 class A and class B that the real difference there, 83 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.800 to put it very simply is how how much of 84 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:59.560 a possibility of misinterpretation is there. I'm going to read 85 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.120 directly from the BFURO website right now. Class A Class 86 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:07.919 A reports involve clear sightings and circumstances where misinterpretation or 87 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:12.919 misidentification of other animals can be ruled out with greater confidence. 88 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:17.000 For example, there are several footprint cases that are well documented. 89 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.199 These are considered way footprint cases that are very well documented. 90 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:23.560 These are considered class A reports because misidentification of common 91 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:28.319 animals can be confidently ruled out. Thus, the potential for 92 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:32.879 misinterpretation is very low. Class B incidents where a possible 93 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.519 sasquatch was observed at a great distance or in poor 94 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:39.639 lighting conditions, or incidents in any other circumstance that did 95 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.680 not afford a clear view of the subject are considered 96 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:47.519 Class B. So basically, the difference between classifications relates directly 97 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.480 to the potential for misinterpretation. 98 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:52.720 I did not know that. 99 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.120 Oh yeah, yeah, A lot of people don't know that, 100 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:58.240 and you're obviously clearly a veteran bigfoot researcher. 101 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.879 I think I'm almost positive those are updated. Those are updated. 102 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.279 He updated the criteria definitions. 103 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.079 He might have, because my understanding until I just read 104 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.240 that a minute ago, is that all footprints are Class B. 105 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.959 But you know, like I guess the grays Harbor one, 106 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:15.879 you know, I guess that could be because that was 107 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.759 so well documented by Dennis Herford and those guys. Maybe 108 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:20.480 that would be a Class A. But still it could 109 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:22.600 be a hoaxer, you know, I mean, I mean, I 110 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:25.360 don't think it is, but it, you know, potentially could be. 111 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.240 So maybe maybe the footprints do all belong in a 112 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.399 Class B. I don't know what do you guys think. 113 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:36.000 Dude, I'm telling that he updated those the terminology definitions. 114 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:38.519 I like this doing better. I like this doing better 115 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:41.199 because I've had audio where there's no way it could 116 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.360 like like I said that my first setting fin days 117 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.399 before I had that encounter, Like I never saw anything, 118 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.000 but it was like way more freaked me out, was 119 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.879 way more compelling and like like the most like in 120 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:54.519 your face, like there's no other thing, like it can't 121 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:56.000 be like you're chick in the eye. Or I think 122 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:00.319 it was just too intense. Yeah, you know. 123 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:02.959 Matt goes on here and it says credible reports where 124 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:08.279 nothing was seen but distinct and characteristic sounds of sasquatches 125 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:12.759 were heard are always considered Class B reports and never 126 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:16.399 Class A, even in the most compelling sound only cases. 127 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.839 This is because the lack of visual element raises a 128 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:25.639 much greater potential for a misidentification of the sounds. But this, 129 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.319 I love this next paragraph here that he writes class 130 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.000 B reports are not considered less credible or less important 131 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:35.759 than Class A reports. Both types are deemed credible enough 132 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.920 by the bfro O to show in public. So that's 133 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:42.279 really important here. But yeah, so I received a class 134 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:46.439 b observation of a sasquatch on Saturday, because, like I mentioned, 135 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.279 I'm covering hours on Saturday pretty much every Saturday. Anybody 136 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:51.879 wants to come in and say hi, I will be 137 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.800 at the NABC And this will be throughout pretty much 138 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:57.439 the entire winter until things start picking up again. We 139 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.639 kind of shift the winter hours as many many tourism 140 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:05.240 based into industries do, you know, or establishments do. But anyway, 141 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:08.199 this guy comes in and I kind of know the guy. 142 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.480 I mean I didn't. I didn't not well enough to 143 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:12.600 recognize him. But when he told me so, oh, I 144 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.720 emailed you about those prints, and blah blah blah. Oh yeah, yeah. 145 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.720 He's actually emailed me several times before with really nice 146 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:22.000 looking footprints that he is found in various places in 147 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:26.160 Mountain Hood National Forest. He's a hunter, he's a mushroom forager, 148 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:29.839 he's just an outdoors guy in general. I trust what 149 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.879 he says, because on at least two or maybe three 150 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:36.160 occasions so far, he has sent me some really good, 151 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.800 good looking footprints in the ground that I wasn't able 152 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:43.079 to get out to unfortunately, because one of them was 153 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.319 in one of my look one of the locations I 154 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:48.639 like to frequent up there kind of by Timothy Lake, 155 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:50.600 on the north side of Timothy Lake there, and then 156 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.160 the others. The other that that happened a couple of 157 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:56.279 years before he told me about it. And then last November, 158 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.480 I think it was the last November, he sent me 159 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:02.079 a footprint photograph for south of Timothy Lake that looks 160 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:07.040 really good. And of course that night it snowed pretty heavily, 161 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:08.759 so I couldn't get out there. They couldn't get to 162 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:11.399 the location. But anyway, I trust this guy because he's 163 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.199 proven himself to be a reliable observer. He's got a 164 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:17.360 good eye for footprints, clearly, because if I can see 165 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.279 them in a picture, they've got to be really good 166 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:22.639 in the ground because pictures never never really turn out 167 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.560 the way that you're looking at something in the ground, does, 168 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.120 you know, It's just entirely different. But anyway, he was 169 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.600 out on so I took the report on Saturday, but 170 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:35.240 he was out on Friday foraging for mushrooms, because mushrooms 171 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.120 are just popping everywhere right now. It's an amazing season 172 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.360 for mushrooms right now, and depending on what altitude you're 173 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.360 going to, I've been seeing them all over too, Chantrell's 174 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.639 and lobster, mushrooms and blats and the whole nine. They're 175 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.120 all kicking right now pretty hard. So he was out 176 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:52.600 the day before at a location that's not too far 177 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.840 from one of my spots. It's close enough. It's probably 178 00:08:55.840 --> 00:09:00.919 about through two or three miles as the crowfly from 179 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:02.679 one of my really good spots that I'd like to 180 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:02.879 go to. 181 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:05.399 Hold on, I'm Monny Thinker's calling in right now to 182 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:10.960 clarify what Hey, Matt, Yeah, we're recording. Can I put 183 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:11.879 you on the air real quick? 184 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:12.840 Yeah? 185 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.879 Okay, we did you change the definitions for the BFR 186 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.000 classification like A, B and C. It used to be 187 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.720 all settings had to be I mean could like the 188 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:26.639 whole tracks trash could be A, and settings could be B. 189 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:29.360 That whole deal a long time ago. 190 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:33.039 We were fight tuning it. But the classifications have been 191 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:38.279 for a long time. That class A were visual signings 192 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.679 where it was a visual that was clear enough so 193 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.080 that it either had to be a bigfoot or somebody 194 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.559 in a bigfoot costume. And then there could be kind 195 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:50.279 of week signings like out of the corner of your 196 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:53.879 eye for a split second, you're not sure Those would 197 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:57.720 be class B siding. So Class A had to mean 198 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.519 something where they really they're either lying or they saw 199 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:04.080 a bigfoot or somebody a big foot costume. And then 200 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:08.799 Class C is like secondhand reports, so it's not directly 201 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.399 for so if you talk to a class C person, 202 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:14.159 you might actually get to the actual witness if you 203 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.360 were to pursue that. But we don't like posting like 204 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:21.039 secondhand stories because they're the two reliable we wanted in 205 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:23.600 the in the in the words of a of a witness. 206 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:29.159 Class B is also sounds and track finds, and I 207 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:34.399 think there's been occasions where I think there's only been 208 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:38.399 a couple of what we had called Class A track finds. 209 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.639 Whether it was the tracks were so clear and so 210 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:48.840 under you know, photographed, well I just couldn't be anything else, uh, 211 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.360 and that we called that, But that I can't even 212 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:53.559 remember the last time we had a track find as 213 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:58.480 a Class A because it's just it's usually not that 214 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.879 that convincing where you could show photos and say like 215 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:06.679 like really good tracks in deep snow or deep tracks 216 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.679 I shouldn't say not necessarily deep snow, but deep tracks 217 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:11.480 in snow, showing that it was heavy in a big 218 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:14.039 long stride and it would have been like basically impossible 219 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:14.639 to fake. 220 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:18.240 It, Okay, because we didn't know that there was Class 221 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.600 A footprint fives I guess Hereford that would be one, 222 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:22.879 or like the PG films, there's footage of them and 223 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:25.480 there's casts, right right. 224 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:29.159 So something that kind of there's some elements to that 225 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:33.159 corroborates the tracks so much that you had to put 226 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.879 it in the category of certitude of a visual siding. 227 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.720 Okay, Yeah, we were all wrong. We were all like, 228 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.240 we just saw someone on Class A track. We were like, no, 229 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:44.720 there's no cross, Like we thought you had redone the 230 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:45.840 definitions or something. 231 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:49.720 Well, we tweaked it in a couple of cases, because 232 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:54.440 it's all the classification system is really just about reliability 233 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:57.879 in that like, so the further you get away from 234 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:02.480 a the more you're talking in the potential for misinterpretation. 235 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.679 So I've a lot of times put like if there's 236 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:07.639 a whole lot of sounds and rock throwing and stuff, 237 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.159 I would call it a B plus, you know. So 238 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:16.120 it's that sliding scale is all about reliability, and some 239 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:18.879 track finds are can be as just as reliable as 240 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.399 a visual and but again I can't you remember the 241 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:24.759 last time we did that. There's very few cases. I 242 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:27.440 think I've only done it for two cases where it 243 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.320 was where I called it. And it wouldn't even be 244 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.080 the Patterson because we don't have the written submission from 245 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:36.759 you know, from Bob Gimbling. Yeah, it's not even in 246 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:38.960 the database the Patterson incident. 247 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.200 Uh So the most famous setting out of VFL, I mean, 248 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.840 the most the most famous setting ever doesn't qualify from 249 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:49.600 VFR because there's no first time account from Bob exactly. 250 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:52.399 He hasn't somebody, he hasn't put anything writing and rimats 251 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:55.039 he could, but if. 252 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:56.519 He wants to be taken seriously, he better. 253 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.759 Yeah, there was there was no way to submit something 254 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.559 like that back when when it happened, and I wouldn't 255 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.519 expend it. But I think people are aware of that 256 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:11.600 if it isn't on our web. 257 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:16.440 Yeah, any questions from matater Cliff now, just thank him 258 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:19.720 for coming on. Okay, Yeah, thanks Matt. We appreciate that. 259 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:21.679 We were just having a debate about it and we 260 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.080 said let's see if that's are available and clear this up. 261 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:29.399 Okay, all right, anytime you guys needed a street you. 262 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:32.200 On, all right, we need plenty of straighten out, So 263 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:33.080 let me call on you soon. 264 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:40.440 Okay, bye, Yes, there you go, straight from the man's mouth. 265 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:43.279 Classic. That was so awesome. 266 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:49.759 It's a he's a pleasure to have him drop by. Yeah, well, 267 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.679 I would think that for our listeners at least. I mean, 268 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:54.960 I know for me personally, but I'm not really the 269 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.120 guy to take the temperature of the audience in any 270 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:59.720 sort of way. But I think for our listeners it's 271 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:01.320 got to be kind of fun to have people pop 272 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.320 on every once in a while that are unexpected, you know, 273 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.399 whether it's money Maker or maybe Melissa or somebody like that. 274 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.559 You know, just somebody who happens to be in the neighborhood. 275 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:13.759 We just grab some Yeah, stay tuned for more Bigfoot 276 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.399 and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. We'll be right back 277 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:25.159 after these messages. 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And there was a guy who came in 317 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:21.720 that you know fairly, Well, yeah. 318 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.279 That's right, that's right. So this guy comes in and 319 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.480 he sent me footprint photographs before that I think are legitimate. 320 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:29.000 And he's out in the woods a lot. So I 321 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.720 put weight in what this guy's saying for sure. And 322 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:34.200 so I was talking to him and he said that 323 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:38.919 just the day before, on Friday, October tenth, he was 324 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.279 out in the woods in an area about two miles 325 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.120 from one of my locations, three miles from one of 326 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.840 my locations out there, way out there, this is way 327 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:48.720 up on top. I'm trying to hit the higher elevations 328 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:51.120 right now before they get shut down by snow, because 329 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.360 I bet you we probably have about two or three 330 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:56.399 weeks left of getting those higher elevation spots before. I 331 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.360 won't see him again until the snow melts in June 332 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:01.960 or July. But anyway, he was out foraging for mushrooms 333 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:04.359 at a location out there that I'm very familiar with. 334 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.359 I've been to the spot several times, even though it's 335 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:12.160 not exactly at my precise location. And he was poking 336 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.240 around a few hundred yards from his car, which he 337 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:18.240 left on the road, and he saw a big chantrell 338 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.240 big delicious orange yellowy mushroom that grows here in the fall. 339 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.240 He saw a big chantraill that was gorgeous in a 340 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:27.079 bush or a brush of something like that, you know, 341 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:29.519 So he kind of squatted over. It wasn't on all fours, 342 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:31.720 but he kind of like hunched down low and started 343 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:34.960 pushing into the middle of the bush in order to 344 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:38.200 get the chantrelle. And as he did so, a short 345 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.039 distance away I can't remember if he said thirty yards, 346 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.599 maybe thirty forty yards somewhere, that's the feel I got. 347 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.400 At least just a short distance away, he hears a 348 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:51.880 sound that he interpreted as something standing up from either 349 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:55.640 a sitting or lying or squatting position, you know. And 350 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.960 of course that's his interpretation, not quite sure if that, 351 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:01.000 but he said it sounded like some thing stood up 352 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:04.680 in the brush. Ben it sounded kind of big, you know. 353 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:07.000 So he stopped for a minute and then and he 354 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.119 looked over there. Then I guess he said he could 355 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.240 hear the thing moving, although it was very very quiet, 356 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.119 but he said he could hear the thing moving kind 357 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.240 of like circling around him and kind of probably just 358 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:22.640 positioning himself to move away, you know. And he's at 359 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:25.079 this point he's thinking bear. He's like, oh, well, shoot, 360 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:27.799 I just served this big bear or whatever. And then 361 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.519 I guess the thing grabs some tree and just shook 362 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.759 the crap out of a tree, just just like violently 363 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.440 shook this thing, and and then that was this guy's 364 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.200 cue to go. He basically said that. He's like, well, 365 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.000 it was pretty clear that I was wanted there, and 366 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:46.480 I took that. I took that invitation to leave and 367 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:48.960 did so. But in the meantime, as the thing was 368 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:53.880 moving through the brush, he kept getting glimpses of black fur. 369 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:57.200 At some point and I asked him and say, well, 370 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:58.720 I mean, could that have been a bear, because you know, 371 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.200 bear's poke at trees and rub their back on them, 372 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.279 and you know, just do that kind of thing sometimes, 373 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.359 you know, it's not out of the question that it 374 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:07.559 could be a bear. And he goes, now, I don't 375 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:09.119 think so, man. It was just too big. I mean, 376 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:11.200 the thing was as big as Murphy was. And Murphy 377 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:13.839 is our bigfoot statue in the back of the NABC there, 378 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.880 and Murphy stands seven and a half feet tall. So 379 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.680 he said that I saw a fur that was at 380 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.079 least as high as your head and probably higher. That's 381 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:25.440 the level of the fur that I saw above the ground. 382 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:29.640 So he probably saw a sasquatch, is what I'm thinking. Yeah, 383 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:31.880 I mean, I mean it sounds everything you need is 384 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:36.200 there right, quietly moving through the woods, tree shaken, tall, 385 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:41.200 black fur covered figure in the woods. And the area 386 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:43.519 is really good. The area is really there's never been 387 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:45.960 sighting reports out of this specific area, but there's been 388 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.319 stuff not that far away, you know, within five miles, 389 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:51.079 as I said, And so yeah, I didn't have any 390 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.240 reason to doubt the guy at all, especially since I've 391 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:55.319 already kind of been interacting with him over the last 392 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:58.839 couple of years, and I've already deemed him as a 393 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:03.240 competent observer, so I got the directions best I could. 394 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:05.039 I tried to get the GPS coordinates, but he had 395 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.720 his location services turned off on the phone when he 396 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:10.960 took the photographs that he shared with me, so I 397 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:13.240 wasn't able to get the exact location. But I mean 398 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:15.000 he gave pretty good directions. He said, go to the 399 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:17.519 end of the road. There's a there's you know, pull 400 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.000 off on the side of the road right before the end, 401 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.440