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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: Music today isn't even play by written musicians.

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Speaker 3: So s you're gonna go back Tar.

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Speaker 2: Saying to me, baby, play me a solo answer, dipster,

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tune into your rady o star, dipster.

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Speaker 3: They don't know real walking holes start star.

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Speaker 1: But some who says making small star dip star, who

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sends me do that? So sad so shoe.

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Speaker 4: Where I was a boy, Oh I thank god.

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Speaker 5: Now this is what the stup thing that I was

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when I was a kid, I got my face up

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there not toilets with the geese side them.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't always a stool pup, but when I was,

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I was a jump I didn't always look as some

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I used to have pimples filled me with us. Remember

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Rob the band times and picks them a bom. It

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feels like someone that's shomping their sad fun.

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Speaker 3: All of my farm.

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Speaker 1: Ride done you mess side call where no scene down?

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Speaker 3: The bomb me roall alive, I ride.

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Speaker 2: Don you mess side go where no scene down?

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Speaker 3: Bob me roll live.

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Speaker 4: Live.

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Speaker 6: Yes, when I was.

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Speaker 1: In school, didn't make those grades. I was yet still

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being numb fool. When I was still young, all I

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cared out proud wise girls but they.

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Speaker 7: Didn't like my temples.

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Speaker 2: I used to be such a stool before day as nine,

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crying on the floor. They used to wear fans read

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me of my milk money taking.

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Speaker 1: When I was growing up, I remember all the band

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times didn't at my mom.

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Speaker 2: It feels like someone that's shopping that same my.

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Speaker 3: Moms of my hot.

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Speaker 4: I ride, don your nas side call have no scene,

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Donna bob you roll alive?

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Speaker 2: A ride dogel nas side called wi no scene, Donna

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Boby roll up live. You know, when I was a boy,

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my father used to look down at me, insane.

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Speaker 1: What the hell is even go outside and cut some grass?

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Why don't you go kids a girl? You stupid loser?

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Why dot you nast side go way no scene down a.

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Speaker 4: Bomb me roll a line, I rhyme, Dot you nas

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I go way no scene down, no boy, roll up lie.

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Speaker 9: Good morning everybody, Welcome, Here we go. It is that

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time again, Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from

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show for you today and I am not alone in studio.

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Speaker 13: Jenny john.

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Speaker 12: Best Treasure Morning Sunshine.

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Speaker 9: Jenny is here of course at the news table. Yes, yes,

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and in just a couple of minutes we're going to

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be joined via Skype by Bowden Greenley. He's the author

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of a book called Perseverance, which I read I had

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the pleasure of reading recently. Looking forward to speaking with

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him about it, although it's a pretty heavy subject, but

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we'll get into that. Of course, we've got Silicon Kong

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which is I'm particularly looking forward to speaking with them

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because not only do I love their sound, but the

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manager of the band is somebody who I used to

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and he was in a band and I was in

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a band and we played a lot of shows together

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and so forth. So I'm really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 12: Yes, it's going to be yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 9: Do we have time? Yeah, we should mention what's the

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So the Gail Singer blood Drive just happened and

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I went there, and I want to encourage you please

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consider donating blood if you did not in this past drive.

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is actually a critical blood supply shortage, which means lives

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are on the line. So if you have the ability

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try and prevent people from dying in house fires and

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any fire hazards that you can take care of, just

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check out the American Red Cross.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 14: You can go to their website at Redcross dot org

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and just look up in home smoke alarm and you

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can find out where you can get it there, or

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able to get out of your house safely. So absolutely

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check that out. Also, if you're not able to donate blood,

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Speaker 12: They do great things for us.

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Speaker 14: And I can tell you as a former EMT and

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working in an emergency room, blood supplies our life one

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literally the difference between life and death for.

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Speaker 14: And there's actually a lot of illnesses that are treated

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by blood donations. So you can help people that are

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Speaker 9: Yes, I'm going to work with ivyies a lot now immunoglobin.

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Speaker 14: So that's actually what they call the what my neurologist

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Speaker 9: You need a lot of immunoglobins.

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Speaker 14: Yes, well, there are people that cannot live without it.

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it is a really big deal. Please consider doing it.

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And like I said, the American Red Cross is giving

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out free smoke alarms. They'll come, they'll install it for

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you and help you stay safe and prevent a fire

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from taking you or your loved one's lives.

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Speaker 9: Well, very good, very good. Also, we should mention so

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a couple quickly. And we've got a couple of shows

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to go to. So yeah, tomorrow night we're going to

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go Great White. We're going to see them at Tupelo

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because opening for them is under the horraz we'll talk

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more about that in the third hour when the band

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Speaker 12: I'm going.

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Speaker 9: And then also, and this has been a few months

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in the making now, but Tuesday Night, Yes, green Jello

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slash green Jelly. I'm never sure which name to call them.

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I think they prefer green Jello. Green Jelly was just

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so a legal alternative, shall we say. But they were

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on the show with us a couple of months ago

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after they played here in Manchester, and Tuesday Night they're

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going to be at Terminus in Nashua. We had, of

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course our friends from Terminus and the Midnight Creators Collective

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Midnight Creativetive Collective. Yes, I always get that wrong. Eleanor

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and Andre and Spelfe here with us a couple of

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weeks ago. But this Tuesday night's the big night Green

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It is twenty one plus b yob but come check

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it out. Terminus is amazing. You can see Jenny's art.

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Jenny is the featured artist there on the wall at

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the Midnight Creatives Collective and my darkest.

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Speaker 14: Piece, yes, which was really crazy to see them hanging

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Speaker 12: Yeah, really really bizarre.

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Speaker 14: So yeah, if you want to check out some of

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my darkest work, you can actually see that while we're

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seeing Green Jello and I am so excited to the

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cops are.

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Speaker 9: And bring your bring your pool noodles if you have, yes,

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pool noodles are a must. But yes, so having costume

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Green Jello again. That is this Tuesday night, the twenty seventh,

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at seven pm. The address is one thirty four Haines

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Street in Nashua. And I've never seen them live.

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gracial thing because they don't do this all the time.

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Speaker 12: To put on. Yeah, and they asked us to.

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Speaker 14: Help them find the great location to host this free concert.

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Speaker 12: And I'm just excited about that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well you helped to facilitate it.

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Speaker 14: I got to say I actually agree booked Green Jello twice.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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guests of the day, so we were just kind of

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talking for a few minutes after the after we got

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off the air, and Bill Mansfield he's like, yeah, we're

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gonna be coming back through. We should if you got

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any where, if you got a venue for us, we'd

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something special they wanted to do, and I thought that

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was really awesome that they wanted to honor us here

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in the great state of New Hampshire with a free concert.

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And yeah, so come on out join us, Come say

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hi to Matt and I.

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Speaker 9: I'd love to meet you in Parson absolutely absolutely so.

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Speaker 14: And good morning to Scott Scott Beatley Oh okay, he

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is in the chat room. He said, good morning Matt

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and Jen' good morning back. Good morning, be Pernard, I

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see you too. Under the Horizon is checking us out.

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to coming in later this morning. We're going to see

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them in person, yes, which I'm really looking forward to.

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to open up for great whites.

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Speaker 12: Pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty pretty cool.

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Speaker 9: Well, our our guest hasn't skyped in yet, although he's

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got a he's got another thirty seconds. But I'll just

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quickly say so back in the day because I made

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reference to this earlier, and I'm sure we'll talk about

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it too when Mike is here. So Mike is is

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the dad of one of the band members, but Mike

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is and so he's managing them too and doing all

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this promotion for them. He's the one who reached out

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to us. But Mike Palmer years ago, he was in

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a band called Disorder by Design, and I was in

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we played a lot of shows together. You know, I

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talk about it on the show a lot with different

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bands that come in. You know how sometimes it happens organically.

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lot of shows together. So we played a lot of

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shows with Disorder by Design. Plus I booked them on

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some shows that My Life Crisis wasn't even on because

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you know, booking a lot of shows and whatnot. So

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and they were I don't know, I don't know what

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ever happened to them. They were a great band, very intense, live,

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really really good, very professional, and Mike was always you know,

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in Disorder by Design. He was always the guy too

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who is you know, kind of the manager, business guy,

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so he was always wonderful to deal with. So uh

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when he when he reached out to us, he said, uh,

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he said in the email, he was like, is this

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is this the same Matt Connorton. I said, yeah, it's me,

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which you know it likely will be because there are

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very few of us. There are very few Matt Connorton's

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in the world. I've checked. There is another Matt Connorton

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right here in New Hampshire, but he's my uncle, so

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that kind of doesn't count.

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message on Skype, so hopefully he'll see my message to.

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Speaker 9: Call our guest.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 12: I don't think that you can see that part. Yes,

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our guest is.

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Speaker 9: He sent a message to us on Skype.

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Speaker 12: That's what he says.

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Speaker 9: That's what he said. Because you can't do that, but just.

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Speaker 12: Sent over a message through Skype.

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Speaker 9: Well sure, yeah, I mean you can't do that. You

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can message people on Skype, but I'm not seeing it.

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But he should just go ahead and go ahead and connect.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's yeah.

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Speaker 9: Because I don't the way this, uh, the way the

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Skype accounts set up, I don't have to accept his

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message before he connects with us. He can just connect

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with us. I think you have the option of setting

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it so only people with whom you've previously connected can

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skype you. Ok, there's different you know, there's different ways

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you can set it up, but ours, I think is open.

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I think I think literally anybody in the world if

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they had our Skype ID. Not that we're going to

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give it out because we don't want just anybody in

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the world doing that, but I think anyone can skype us.

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That's true if they have the idea.

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Speaker 14: They have the idea, yes, yes, or if they think

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they can look it up on email too. Oh wait,

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we don't do that anything.

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Speaker 9: There's different ways to do it. But skype is funny

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and quirky and weird, but it works a lot better

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than it used to. I remember, way back first you

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using Oh he's actually calling the studio line.

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Speaker 12: Oh okay, well was it that?

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Speaker 9: Assuming this is him, hopefully hopefully Hello, is this our guests?

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Speaker 3: Hey, Matt's Kadaver.

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Speaker 15: How you doing?

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Speaker 9: Oh it's Kay Deaver. Hey what's that?

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Speaker 16: Man?

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Speaker 15: Hey, I don't know. If I'm crashing the party, feel

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free to kick me off. I'm I'm about to go

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to a shoot right now. And I just saw your

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Facebook live and it said call now, so I thought

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I'll just join in and say hi.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we do have a guest who's supposed to be

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skyping in momentarily, but he hasn't yet. He's a couple

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of minutes late, so he might be having a technical issue.

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So go ahead and plug what you're doing. Man, what

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you said you're going to You got a you got

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a video shoot?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: So my company Fourth Kind Films, which is so I

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just said Kayaver in the sense that that's how you

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know me. But yes, I don't want to say I

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have left that life. I still like do music dabbling,

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but I pretty much put all my focus into my

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home company over the last year and a half, which

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is pretty much wow, just gone to the moon. I

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have commercials on NBC right now for Canaan Bridges, working

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on documentaries everything in between. I do recruitment videos for

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police departments. I do weddings, music videos, you name it.

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And so right now I'm going over to this event

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called the apple Pie Fair.

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Speaker 9: Huh.

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Speaker 15: It's the event Newport, New Hampshire. So I gotta do

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a little event recap for them today and then next

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week I gotta play their shoots as well. But yeah,

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that's what I got going on. Man, I was life

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to you.

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Speaker 9: Good, good, that's awesome.

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Speaker 12: We should get you in.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. Our guest just joined us via Skype, so we're

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gonna shift over to him. But I'm really glad you called.

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That's amazing. Congratulations on that. And you know, Jenny does

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the booking for the show now, so let's get you

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back on partly because it would be great to see you,

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but also I definitely want to get updated on everything

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that you're doing, because that's great news. It sounds like

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you're having a ton of success and I'm very very

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happy for you. You deserve it. You've been at this

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a while and you deserve it.

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Speaker 15: Man, absolutely, just one more time formeone out there, Fourth

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Kind Films. You can find me on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.

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Speaker 4: All that. I get.

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Speaker 15: My apologies for crashing. I know sometimes you do kind

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of open platform shows for people to call in, so

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I thought that was one of those times. But I'll

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let you go back to doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 9: No, you're you're timing.

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Speaker 12: You were perfect.

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Speaker 9: Your timing was perfect, my friend. And yes, we will

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talk to you soon. All right, all right, kaya or

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take care? All right? Very nice, very nice. Let's see here.

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And uh so we do have our guests as uh Boden,

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can you hear me? Yes, sir, very good, Boden Greenley?

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Am I saying that correctly? Boden?

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Speaker 16: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's not a name I think I've ever seen before,

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but I like it. It's cool. Yeah, So Boden Greenley

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is skyping in. Now, where are you, Bowden? Where are

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you located?

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Speaker 16: I'm in North Dakota.

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Speaker 9: North Dakota. Oh, okay, Fargo. Well, well we all know

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about Fargo because of the movie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: But uh, so you have written a book which I read,

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and thank you for sending that to us. Uh person,

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absolutely perseverance and.

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Speaker 3: Very you know.

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Speaker 9: I referenced earlier when I when I mentioned that you

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were going to be joining us. Uh, I mentioned that,

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you know, pretty pretty heavy stuff. It's a heavy subject.

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It's it's a light read in the sense that it's

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not particularly long, but but it but it's not a

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light read in the sense that, like I said, it's

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it's it's pretty heavy stuff. And let me let me

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ask you this right up front, and we can kind

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of work backwards a little bit. But I want to

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know this and then we'll get into for our listeners

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what it's about and everything. But how is your mother now?

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Because the book is of course about the ordeal health

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wise that your mother has been through as we sit

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here today, how is she doing?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, so she's she's definitely better than she was at

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her worst by a lot, but she's certainly not one

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hundred percent i'd say, somewhere in the forty realm.

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That's kind of where you left it was about. She

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was at about forty percent, So yes, So Boden, if

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we could, can you go ahead and tell us about

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the book and what it's about, and you know, I'm

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sure I'll have some questions. I read it the other night,

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and I'll have some questions along the way, But for

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our listeners to kind of get acquainted, I'd like you

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to kind of tell us a little bit about the

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book and what it is that drove you to write this.

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Speaker 16: Yeah. So this was something that I'd wanted to write

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for a long time. It was a situation that directly

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involved me, and once I got a little older here,

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I was like, I feel like this is something that

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is more common than the industry makes it seem like.

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It is, like this is something to me, I feel

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everybody kind of sweeps under the rug, and I really

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wanted to get this story out there and make people

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knowledgeable on this topic. So basically, going back, so right now,

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I'm nineteen years old, This started when I was about

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twelve years old. So going back, she had a tooth

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issue going on and she was needed an implant and

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was debating on getting a ceramic or a titanium implant,

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and she doctors pushed her to go titanium. She decided

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to go titanium, got that put in there, and then

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probably like three months after getting it, she started getting

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all these terrible things going on in her body started

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getting really bad. She ended up getting it out like

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probably seven months after that, and then just from there

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on just kept it was really bad that next year

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and then got a little bit better, but then it's

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still been struggling with problems for a long long time.

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Speaker 9: And as this is going on, did she or did

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anyone have any idea that it was the tooth?

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00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 16: Yeah? Yeah, I mean it was. It was pretty much

476
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,279
clear as day that it was the tooth. She was

477
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:07,559
she was as healthy as you could possibly be. Prior

478
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,039
to this. She was a person that was like lifting

479
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,000
every day, ran a lot, all these things, and no

480
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,839
just common anything was taken her down at all.

481
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:19,599
Speaker 2: Like she was.

482
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,799
Speaker 16: She was literally as healthy as it could be and

483
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,279
then got this tooth and right after boom, we got

484
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,240
we had problems galore.

485
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 9: And this is have you been able to find other

486
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,839
documented cases similar to this or or is this such

487
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,720
a rare thing that that that you really can't find

488
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:42,559
anything like this happening to anybody.

489
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 16: Yeah, I actually, you know, I haven't looked into specific

490
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,839
cases a ton, but even so, I'm from a pretty

491
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,920
small town, and I even know a couple people close

492
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160
to me that had similar symptoms to my mom when

493
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,680
getting titanium put in their body, So I know that happens.

494
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, it's frustrating.

495
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: You know.

496
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 9: Jenny, of course, with her her experience and what she's

497
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:13,839
been through, she knows a lot about when it's difficult

498
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,640
to get something diagnosed and you know, figuring out exactly

499
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,279
what the problem is. You know, she has a lot

500
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:22,400
of experience with that, and I'm sure there's a lot

501
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,000
of people who can relate to that. You know, when

502
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:29,039
you're dealing with something that's unusual, it's it's so much

503
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,599
harder to get it diagnosed because you know, if it's

504
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,759
not something common, you know, really, I mean, why would

505
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:38,599
the medical community know a lot about it or be

506
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,160
able to figure out and identify the problem and then

507
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,359
go from there and figure out solutions if it's something

508
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:49,440
that doesn't happen very often exactly so, so the titanium,

509
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:54,039
it's sort of poisoned her right, it caused her, it

510
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,759
wrecked her health in a sense.

511
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,079
Speaker 4: Right.

512
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,839
Speaker 16: Yeah, So this is one thing I want to really

513
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:04,400
kind of clear here. So in my opinion, I don't

514
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:08,440
believe that the titanium is a huge issue when dealing

515
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:13,279
with this. The problem is titanium implants are six percent aluminum,

516
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,799
and that's where the problem became. So they use aluminum

517
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,880
as a filler metal. It's because aluminum per ounce is

518
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:25,359
way cheaper than titanium per ounce, so they can use that.

519
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:29,079
And keep in mind they're outputting two point five million

520
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,880
implants per year, so when you're talking that scale, that

521
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,480
money that it takes to create the implant, that really matters.

522
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,160
So the aluminum was the issue.

523
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:46,039
Speaker 14: And if I were, oh, go ahead, Jenny Wood, No,

524
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,720
I'm just I'm shocked. Yeah, And I never knew. I

525
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,519
never knew that there was aluminum in the titanium implants.

526
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,119
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it never knew that. It's interesting that you

527
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,279
say that because I think in the book, I think

528
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,519
you kind of talk about that too, and that they

529
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,839
they don't tell you that upfront, right, Like don't they

530
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,720
kind of sell it to you as it's titanium and

531
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,759
they just say that's what it is, and they don't

532
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,559
tell you while it's titanium, but it's also aluminum, and it's.

533
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 16: This and it's that, yeah exactly. And it's like maybe

534
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,759
somewhere in the fine print of the contract that's what

535
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:20,680
they say it in there. Yeah, but they definitely don't

536
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:23,000
make it clear when they're telling you, that's for sure.

537
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,359
And the thing too is, I don't know if you

538
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,319
guys know lately, there's been a big uprising with aluminum

539
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,240
in the deodorance that I'm.

540
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 12: Very aware of. I'm a Brescia survivor.

541
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:39,799
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So it's like, to me, how

542
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:43,880
can so now everybody's opening up to aluminum and deodorance,

543
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,519
which is simply just putting it on topically on your skin,

544
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,279
but then it's okay to implant it into your body.

545
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:51,359
It's like, that makes no.

546
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 12: Sense, right, that's a super valid point. Yeah, yeah, aluminum

547
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,799
and deodorant. That's one of the things.

548
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,559
Speaker 14: One of the first things they told me to stop

549
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,960
using was antiperspirant because that's the main ingredient there is

550
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:08,880
the aluminum. Yep, the ordorant by itself doesn't have it.

551
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,319
Speaker 16: Right, right, And let me take a guess, so you said,

552
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:16,319
you're a breast cancer survivor. Yep, was your breast cancer

553
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:18,039
like really close to your armpit?

554
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 14: No, actually it was closer to my back. It was

555
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,839
in the back of my breast tissue. And there was

556
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:33,920
also a pre cancerous area that had started under the areola. Okay,

557
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,119
I kind of had it on both sides of this area.

558
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,480
As far as thickness goes, it was way upfront and

559
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:40,119
way in the back.

560
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 9: Does make it does make you wonder though, a little bit, right,

561
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:44,519
of course, of course.

562
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:46,799
Speaker 14: I mean I I can remember when I was a

563
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,839
kid by dad going it's time for you to get theodorant.

564
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:50,759
Speaker 12: Now, you know it?

565
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,839
Speaker 14: Like, yeah, it was like a thing you had to

566
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,000
start using deodorant. I mean yeah, and always used yoterant.

567
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,000
That's like it's ingrained in your head.

568
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 12: Right, How many of us bring it to school and reapply?

569
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:03,759
Speaker 9: I mean right?

570
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah. I was reading a study the other day.

571
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:09,359
I don't remember exactly what it was, but there's a

572
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:16,279
big increase in breast cancer towards the or really close

573
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:20,480
to the armpit because of the They're saying it's directly

574
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,920
linked to the aluminum in the well.

575
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 14: That's that's where the main lymph nodes start, and that's

576
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,160
where the first two lymph nodes are that are normally

577
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,640
and in my case, we're dissected and removed. Sure, and

578
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
some people lose way more than that because they keep going.

579
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200
They start with those lymph nodes right in the armpit.

580
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,680
You're one hundred percent correct, and then it goes backwards

581
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,079
from there.

582
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:45,799
Speaker 9: Yeah. No, that's interesting.

583
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,519
Speaker 14: You've certainly done your resource, that's for sure. And this

584
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,519
is good information to be sharing. Most people don't consider

585
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,279
what's in their anti pressproot right that they're using, and

586
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:57,440
that aluminum actually like blocks you and then gets into

587
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:57,920
your body.

588
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, right, and.

589
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,319
Speaker 16: That's why they put it in there, because it actually

590
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,640
clogs the gland so you don't sweat as much exactly.

591
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 9: That makes sense. That makes sense, And nobody, nobody.

592
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 12: Wants to sweat and be sa and you're really better

593
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,039
off if you do sweat. Wedding is a good thing.

594
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:17,639
Your body's supposed to do it for a reason.

595
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,559
Speaker 9: Yes, that's true. One of the things that surprised me

596
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,639
in the book Boden was and this surprised me in

597
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,039
a very very sad way. Is I kind of thought

598
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,079
as I'm reading it as you're going through the story.

599
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:40,039
Once they identified that the tooth was was that titanium

600
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,920
slash aluminum tooth was what was probably the issue, and

601
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,000
they took it out. I would have thought, I would

602
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,440
have hoped that over time she would start to get better.

603
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:54,800
And I guess she did start to get better, right,

604
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,079
but not not enough. As you said, even today, she's

605
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:00,320
still at only forty percent. Because I remember get into

606
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,079
that part in the story and thinking, Okay, this is

607
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:05,199
probably a good turning point. Right now she's now that

608
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,880
they've taken that out, hopefully she's hopefully she's sweating it out.

609
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,559
Hopefully you know, it's it's leaving her body. But uh,

610
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,639
but apparently not or or maybe it has, but but

611
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,480
the the damage is done. I don't know, I mean,

612
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:20,280
what what what?

613
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 11: Uh?

614
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,519
Speaker 9: What do you say about that?

615
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:23,679
Speaker 2: Yeah?

616
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,599
Speaker 16: It really is remarkable to me, and I truly don't

617
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:30,880
understand it. We I don't know. I think she might

618
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,800
go in here and see we were thinking there might

619
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:39,039
still be fragments of something in her body, because that's

620
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:43,920
what I'm thinking. There's absolutely no way something takes this

621
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:48,360
long to heal, and I just think her body is

622
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,760
whatever is in her body, she just cannot defend it. So, yeah,

623
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,639
it's it truly is remarkable. And if there isn't anything else,

624
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,159
I don't know. She just yeah, her body just fighting

625
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,440
it off is impossible. It's crazy.

626
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 14: I'm wondering what got put into her bloodstream, into her body,

627
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,599
because this is really hitting home for me because of

628
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:12,480
the tomocks Fin toxicity that I have.

629
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,199
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm Tomock's beIN toxic. My body can't get rid

630
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:16,400
of it.

631
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 14: It implanted itself everywhere and I'll always be Tomock's Fin toxic.

632
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 12: There's no way to clear it out of my body.

633
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,639
Speaker 14: So and it has had significant effects to my eyes

634
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,360
and my ears. I mean my right eye has a

635
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,480
hole in it because of it. But I'm like relating

636
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:35,079
to your mom's story so much because I'm thinking, yeah,

637
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,960
she had this in her body, and your mouth is

638
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:43,440
actually super super for us, right. This is in fact,

639
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,960
it's one of the fastest ways to give you a

640
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,239
medication is under your tongue. That is literally one of

641
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,480
the fastest ways. So you have to remember that it's

642
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:53,159
also one of the quickest ways to get sick because

643
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:57,239
it's oftentimes people will get a tooth infection. Those untreated

644
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,920
gets into the blood system, and now you can actually

645
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,599
die from it. I mean I've seen I have seen

646
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:06,000
people in the intensive care unit with something that started

647
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,960
in their mouth. So that's one hundred percent true. So

648
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:11,599
it makes me think that that aluminum that was in

649
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,800
her mouth for however long, that there's some kind of

650
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,760
like chemical or whatever that got into her bloodstream because

651
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,159
of that and is just simply she's got it and

652
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,079
it maybe it's just not you know, there's no there

653
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:28,920
may be no way to completely cleanse her of it,

654
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,840
as there is no way to completely cleanse me of tomoxyfin.

655
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,480
I'm always going to have deposits in various parts of

656
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,159
my body of it. Yeah, I wonder if that's what

657
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,559
it is.

658
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 2: You know.

659
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 12: I just feel so identify with with your mom so

660
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:42,760
much because of that.

661
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, what inspired you to write the book, Boden?

662
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 16: Yeah?

663
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 6: I so.

664
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,119
Speaker 16: My main reason is I want to get this information

665
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,599
out there. I you know, I come back to do

666
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,719
I think titanium is the worst thing in the world. No,

667
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,960
but if we're gonna be still doing these things, it

668
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:09,599
needs to be one hundred percent titanium or I believe

669
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:15,280
that ceramic or zirconia implants are much superior. That's what

670
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,599
the holistic dentists are preaching now. But I just want

671
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:20,840
people to be aware that when they put these things

672
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,280
in their body, that there's a even if it's a

673
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,679
really small chance, that it completely ruins your life. And

674
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,159
I think that that is gonna make you think twice

675
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,039
before getting it.

676
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:33,639
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I assume too, you're only nineteen, right, so

677
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:37,119
I assume your mom is pretty young, and she's got

678
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:38,000
a lot ahead of her.

679
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:39,599
Speaker 16: So, yeah, she's forty eight.

680
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,639
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so it's it's got to be. And you

681
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,639
talk too in the book about how prior to all

682
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,039
this happening, she was very healthy, very fit, and uh

683
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,119
not someone who I mean, it's got to be. Obviously

684
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,719
it would be difficult for anybody to go through this,

685
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,519
but I would imagine it's especially difficult for someone like

686
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:59,079
her who's used to being so active.

687
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:03,639
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it, it is terrible. I mean none,

688
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,599
nothing short of terrible. She she's super fit person, she

689
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,239
was a dietitian, physical trainer all that, so that was

690
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,480
like her big thing and it's been really difficults hard.

691
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,199
Speaker 9: There's a point in the book too that that I

692
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,679
found particularly heartbreaking. When she was she she was at

693
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,280
a point where she was starting to feel better, significantly better,

694
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,119
and it seemed like it was a really good turning point,

695
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,599
and she kind of maybe she pushed herself a little

696
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:34,719
too hard or something, but she was out somewhere, I

697
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,960
think maybe with one of your siblings, if I remember correctly, Yes,

698
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,199
and she was really she was having a good day

699
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,159
and it was going well, and she's feeling good, and

700
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,800
then all of a sudden, she just started feeling terrible again,

701
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,920
and it was just this enormous setback, and I think

702
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,559
she fell, if I remember correctly.

703
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 16: Yeah, So so there was there was kind of two

704
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,400
so you're referring to when she took my little brother

705
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:03,440
to the zoo, and actually, oh, it wasn't It wasn't

706
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:07,880
anything super crazy. She just she literally just walked too much.

707
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,400
That's what she says. She she walked too much that

708
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:15,800
day and she felt like a big just drop. She

709
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,239
calls it poison in her body because that's it feels

710
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,119
like tingling all over and she felt it drop into

711
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,400
her legs and she said she knew she was in

712
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:25,639
trouble when that happened.

713
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 9: Oh god.

714
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

715
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 9: And then it was after that it was kind of

716
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,480
back to square one, right.

717
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

718
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, so she had up to that point, she had

719
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,280
gotten that was the best she'd been before that day.

720
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,119
She was probably up to a good sixty percent and

721
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,559
then yeah, that happened, and been struggling more with the

722
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:46,400
lower body.

723
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 9: Now, wow, that's horrible.

724
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:52,199
Speaker 14: It sounds like CPS. Yeah, yeah, because that's what happened

725
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,159
with me. Everything was upper body and then it dropped

726
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:54,840
into my legs.

727
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:57,119
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, exactly, so crazy.

728
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 14: I'm so sorry your almost had to struggle through these.

729
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,920
I commend you for what you're doing. It's so important

730
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,199
to get this, to get information out there so people

731
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,360
are informed and can make informed choices.

732
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,079
Speaker 16: Absolutely.

733
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,159
Speaker 9: How does she feel about the book?

734
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,599
Speaker 16: You know, so kind of funny here right away. So

735
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,840
I didn't tell her that I wrote it until it

736
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,039
was already done, because I knew that she was kind

737
00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:26,519
of a stubborn person and is kind of embarrassed about

738
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:29,679
the whole situation and probably did not want to be

739
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,840
a main focal talking point. But then once I brought

740
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,079
it to her, she was really happy and we had

741
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,760
a good moment about it, and I told her that

742
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,760
this is a message that needs to get out there,

743
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,360
and it sucks that you're kind of the talking point,

744
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,000
but it has to get out there. I just don't

745
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,920
want to see this happen to a lot of people.

746
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 9: So has this kind of spurred her to do any

747
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,840
other like does she do any interviews or any kind

748
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,119
of media about this or is it just just your

749
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,800
book for now that you've written.

750
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 16: Mainly just my book for now? Yeah, she's not. She

751
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,000
just doesn't really like that kind of thing talking about it.

752
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,760
You know, she's she's just a super She's a stubborn person.

753
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,480
She's tough nosed, and she's yeah, like I said, kind

754
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,079
of embarrassed about it. So I'll be the guy to

755
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:17,280
talk about it absolutely.

756
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, you know, to be able

757
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,920
to do this and even survive, you know, you've got

758
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:25,400
to be tough, right, So so yeah, someone someone not

759
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:29,559
with the fortitude that she obviously has, you know, would

760
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:31,559
have thrown in the towel by now. But she's obviously

761
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:33,599
a very strong person to be able to continue to

762
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,280
deal with this every day and continue to function and

763
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:42,119
live and Wow, And have you written other things prior

764
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:44,159
to this or is this your first book.

765
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 16: Or have you read that this was my first book?

766
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,639
Speaker 9: Wow? Good for you good for you. No, it's excellent.

767
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,280
Did you have an editor or did you do everything yourself?

768
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 16: Or yeah? I had a I had an editor, and

769
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:58,400
then I had a guy who helped me with the cover.

770
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, No, it's very good. I encourage

771
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,079
people to read it.

772
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,079
Speaker 5: Oh.

773
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 9: I'm also curious because I don't think you addressed this

774
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,719
specifically in the book, but in terms of so they

775
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,599
removed the titanium, you know, and partially aluminum tooth. Did

776
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:17,679
they replace it with something or does she just not

777
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,800
have a tooth there now or what happened there?

778
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 16: Yeah, she's just empty there.

779
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, yes, sir, I didn't know if I didn't

780
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920
know if there was a danger in not putting something

781
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,239
else there or I mean, I guess at the moment,

782
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,360
it probably doesn't much matter because what she's already dealing

783
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,519
with is so difficult that.

784
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly. It was like at the time when they

785
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,039
were taking it out, you know, they probably would have

786
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,280
wanted to put something back over top, but she was

787
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,320
just like, I feel so bad right now, just get

788
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,280
it out and we'll deal with it after.

789
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 9: That makes sense, though, I can definitely understand that. I

790
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:59,440
can understand that is there any is there any kind

791
00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:59,880
of hope?

792
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 14: What have you?

793
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 9: And and she and your family been able to find

794
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:08,159
anything that any sort of alternative treatment or anything that

795
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,480
that might help her or she just kind of kind

796
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:14,360
of stuck at forty percent. And that's that's kind of

797
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,119
it for the moment.

798
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 16: Yeah, I've I've been really reaching out to a lot

799
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,800
of people I've found in the more alley of holistic dentistry,

800
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:28,159
which is more like natural practice dentistry, and there's some

801
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,360
there's potentially some heavy metal detox We're going to look

802
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,039
into down the road here that I want to get into.

803
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,039
But she's actually going in I believe next week sometime

804
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:44,320
to get a scan of her head to make sure

805
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,920
there's no leftover fragments.

806
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:51,599
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, excellent, and then if U of course, and

807
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,480
that's that'll be If they find something, that's half the

808
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,840
battle I guess right locating, but then they have to

809
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,280
figure out how to get it out.

810
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 16: Right, so which then that will be difficult. But if

811
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,519
they find something, we'll get it done.

812
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, and at least too then you'll know. Then you'll

813
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,039
have an answer, you know, is that is that?

814
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:09,599
Speaker 13: What it is?

815
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 9: Is there any kind of a theory about why, because,

816
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,719
like I said, that, there's that point where she started

817
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,719
feeling significantly better. I mean, I assume you've probably all

818
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,639
been over this a million times, but has have have

819
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,719
you and she and your family tried to figure out

820
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:31,639
what it was during that period that was different that

821
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,159
helped her to feel so much better before she she

822
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,920
had that setback and all of that.

823
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I I really don't know. It's such

824
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,679
a it's such an interesting thing to me. It's like,

825
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:46,280
like you stated earlier, it's like when when once we

826
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,840
got it removed, you're thinking, all right, we're probably getting

827
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,559
better here, you know, eventually at least.

828
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was.

829
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 16: She was getting so much better, and I'm thinking, oh, yes,

830
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,559
I'm fine, my mom's finally going to be all the

831
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:01,320
way better. And then it was just like one day

832
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,599
she walks too much, Like what the f. You know,

833
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,800
there's there's no way. I mean, she she was as

834
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,599
fit as somebody could be, so to her even walking

835
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:13,440
a lot that was like exerting twenty percent, you know,

836
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,400
So there's there's just no and I yeah, I really

837
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,960
don't understand. But yeah, to answer your question, I don't

838
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,639
really know what it was exactly.

839
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:27,159
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and it must be so hard to And

840
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:29,960
you do talk about this quite a bit in the book.

841
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:33,440
You know, you get very personal about the challenges for

842
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:36,719
your family. You know, obviously she's going through this terrible thing,

843
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,320
but it but it affects all of you. You know,

844
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,440
it affects your dad and your siblings and how hard

845
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:45,239
that is and how you know and and when you're

846
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,760
a kid, you know, I mean, it's probably although adults,

847
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,079
it's it's a challenge for anybody right of any age,

848
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:54,480
but especially when you're growing up. And you know when

849
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:56,519
you're this started when you were twelve, right, you said

850
00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:58,880
you were twelve when this whole thing started, Yes, sir,

851
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,639
like you don't know it that age? How to how

852
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,119
to handle all of this emotionally and to see your

853
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:06,960
mother going through this and your sibling. Are you the

854
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:09,920
oldest of uh? Are you the oldest of three?

855
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:10,199
Speaker 3: Is that?

856
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:11,559
Speaker 10: Yes?

857
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,599
Speaker 16: I am the oldest. And then I got right in

858
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,679
so right now I'm nineteen. I have a middle brother

859
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,639
who's sixteen, and then I have a youngest brother who's ten.

860
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 9: Oh wow, yeah, I mean your ten year old brothers.

861
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,239
You know, for him, it's got to be very very hard.

862
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:27,760
Oh yeah, oh absolutely.

863
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:31,119
Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah, it was really hard. And I talked about

864
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:33,320
this a little bit. I did a bad job as well.

865
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,920
You know, I was I was so young, and I

866
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:38,199
kind of just got caught up in my own little

867
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,280
world and I almost I talked about a little bit.

868
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,800
I almost got annoyed. You know, it's say, why am

869
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:48,639
why is this? This just isn't fair to me selfishly

870
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,079
thinking why is my mom like this? This is ridiculous.

871
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,519
But then it's like later on it's like, oh man,

872
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:56,480
I was terrible.

873
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: You know.

874
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,039
Speaker 12: Now, don't do that to yourself. Yeah, to yourself. You're

875
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:05,119
you're you're young, You're you know, you're a kid.

876
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,679
Speaker 14: Your brain is wired a particular way, and it's not

877
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,719
a bad thing about you that in that moment you

878
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,119
weren't able to view the entire the entirety of what

879
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,320
was going on. I mean, that's just a process of

880
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:21,400
getting older. You can't fault yourself for being a kid

881
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,719
and not seeing a full view because you just didn't

882
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,840
get there yet. You know, now you do, look at

883
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,760
everything you're doing. You're doing incredible things. You didn't just

884
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,480
come around. You came around to become a champion, to

885
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,039
make sure that other people are forewarned. And that's absolutely remarkable.

886
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,519
Speaker 16: Yeah, I appreciate that.

887
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's you know, it's good to

888
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,000
reflect on.

889
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 11: This.

890
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 9: There's such a thin line between you know, kind of

891
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:52,360
reflecting and analyzing, a thin line between that and ruminating

892
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,320
on the past and beating yourself up and whatnot. But

893
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,159
I but I think, you know, it's good to reflect

894
00:48:57,199 --> 00:49:03,079
on on what you maybe could have done differently so

895
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:06,480
that you're able to be supportive going forward. But again,

896
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:08,760
like Jenny, like Jenny said, I mean, when you're a kid,

897
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,440
you know, you're you're still trying to mature and and

898
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,960
uh and grow emotionally, and you know, to feel some

899
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,840
sort of resentment or frustration along the way or well

900
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,599
you know that's perfectly normal. That's normal for adults too,

901
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,960
but but especially when you're a kid, it's like, you know,

902
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,000
you got a you really got got your family, your

903
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:32,000
mom especially, but your family really got dealta that bad hand,

904
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,440
uh with this uh, this whole situation. So you did

905
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,559
the best you could and and and the great thing

906
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,800
about writing this book is, you know, hopefully this is

907
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,440
going to help other people. Like you said, you want

908
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,440
to raise awareness about this and kind of warn people

909
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,199
about what they might be getting into. And uh, you know,

910
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,320
make sure too that you're you know, if somebody wants

911
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,360
to put titanium in, you read the fine print, make

912
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,960
sure you know is ask your doctor, ask the surgeon.

913
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,320
Is there anything else other than titanium. I'm trying to

914
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,280
think of what else do they use titanium for it?

915
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,920
I'm not sure hip replacements, right, I think hip replacements are.

916
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 14: Everything pretty much is because it doesn't set up a

917
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,880
metal detector, and it's it's it's a rather good material.

918
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,119
Speaker 2: You know.

919
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,599
Speaker 12: I mean everybody, you know, you need to be informed.

920
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:19,519
Speaker 14: Maybe there's things you look out for, you know, maybe

921
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,920
maybe there's some kind of allergy involved with aluminium that

922
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:25,840
triggers in some people and not others.

923
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:27,159
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you know, you don't.

924
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 14: I'm good a titanium knee and it went remarkably well. Yeah,

925
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,880
So there's there's the good, and you know, there's good

926
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,440
and bad in anything. So really just being fully informed

927
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,719
and then making informed choices, you know, or maybe you know,

928
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,000
maybe you get tested for heavy metal or whatever.

929
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,519
Speaker 12: I don't know what the exact answer is to it, you.

930
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 9: Know, yeah, yeah, does doesn't sound like anyone does.

931
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's it's kind of it's kind of tough because,

932
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:53,840
like you said, and I kind of say this a

933
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,960
little bit too, It's like most people are probably gonna

934
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,960
get it and be just fine. But in my opinion,

935
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:03,719
I think if something like this is even a potential,

936
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,760
I just don't find myself taking that risk. And I

937
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,239
think as time goes on, we're going to start to

938
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,360
see alternatives that are safer or at least, like I said,

939
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,239
I would like to see everything be all one hundred

940
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,079
percent titanium. I would be more okay with that even.

941
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now that you've written this book, do

942
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:30,119
you have plans to write another one, or are you

943
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:33,400
going to continue writing or maybe maybe write about other

944
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:36,639
things or what's kind of your trajectory in terms of writing.

945
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:41,679
Speaker 16: Yeah, so I never thought I would do anything even

946
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,400
close to this. It's funny because when I was probably

947
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mid teens, I said how much I hated reading, and

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then now I'm just I'm just a reading freak. I

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love reading and I love writing too. So yeah, but

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as for writing more, my hope, my hope is that

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we find an answer with my mom, we get her detox,

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and I want to write about that. That is my

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that is my end goal.

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Speaker 9: Oh and that would be wonderful. That would be a

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wonderful book to write, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 16: Yes, that would be That would be awesome.

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Speaker 9: I would love to read that. So yeah, so hopefully,

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hopefully that happens. Boden Greenley, thank you so much. Before

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we let you go, too, I want to make sure

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everyone knows where to get your book. Of course, it

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is called Perseverance. And what do people need to know

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about how to get it?

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Speaker 16: Yeah? So right now it's available on Amazon.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, well that's easy. Yeah, that's easy. And we

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should tell people to tell people how to because Boden

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is not a name you here every day? How do

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people spell that when they're looking for you?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's b O E d N. And then Greenley

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is green l E y.

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Speaker 9: Okay, okay, well listen, thank you so much for joining

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us today. Like I said, I it's an excellent book.

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I I want to say I enjoyed reading, but enjoy

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isn't quite the right word, because, like I said, it's

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such a it's such an unhappy subject. But yeah, but

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I'm really glad, I'm really glad that you sent it

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to us and that we were able to do this

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today and and help uh absolutely, you know, if even

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if we help one person or or prevent possibly one

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person from making a mistake, that's that's a good thing.

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So I'm really glad you were able to do join

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us and and even you know, even if it's a

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while before you have written anything else, if you have

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any kind of a big update on your mom in

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the future, we'd love to have you back. This is

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something that we want to continue to pay attention to

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and and support you and your family and in any

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way that we can. So so let's uh, let's definitely

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stay in touch. Boden.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely great, all right, very.

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Speaker 9: Good Boden Greenley, thank you so much, and we'll we'll

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talk to you again in the future, I'm sure.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, thank you guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: You got it, all right, Bye bye bye bye. All right.

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So that was Boden Greenley, and he is the author

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of Perseverance, which you can find it, uh and on

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dot com. And yeah, like I said, it's a it's

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a good read, but a very it's a very difficult subject.

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Speaker 12: Medicine always is.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely absolutely I'm gonna play something from our out I'm

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gonna play something from our our number two guest, uh

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Silicon Kong and uh. This is not one of the

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tracks that he sent me, but it's one that I

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particularly like. So we're gonna play this, but then Silicon

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Kong uh will be with us in the second hour.

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Don't go away?

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's right.

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Speaker 3: Don't you already know? I have to go out? Don't

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I can't you? I want tone the reader. I don't

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know what don't I take of it? I try to

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know you are in love you.

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Speaker 1: Ms word.

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Speaker 3: No baby, of your life, of your way of baling?

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Is what does the you are.

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Speaker 11: Be?

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Speaker 3: Of the doors? The doors, the name of dog? If

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you only play a scene you even grimly play, would

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you like to see the doctor? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 3: About way after day a tree as the.

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Speaker 17: Grams has asation podcast has.

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Speaker 3: No where?

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Speaker 17: I know?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: O your o? You are the daughter all day? Oh

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those you tried? How sucking your watch your day day?

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We're all the positive doesn't like it's all rock come

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by all you're going over to a dollar away? And

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are you ignore every.

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Speaker 17: Day bossy like weday world? Ma, ex why all we

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ask why every day?

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Speaker 3: Now you has left the joke go show you the

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way you have.

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Speaker 4: Your eye has a.

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Speaker 17: Fine less class.

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Speaker 3: Here's the car back worn. Now you will see with

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clear scruty. Indeed what clos that a uget? Cause you

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need free alive? But where you have a died and not?

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We're about for tweens. You're Fourteene Sea and beach, and

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most it to the wind to carry off with the time.

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Speaker 17: Where you get old by, well you're hoping denied you

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old about re