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Speaker 2: So anyways, we'll get this thing back on track here. So,
Speaker 2: speaking of hanging it up, that's been a big talking point.
Speaker 2: Should Tua Tugohaloa call it a career after last night
Speaker 2: suffering a concussion? And nobody, I mean most people like
Speaker 2: myself yapping in front of a microphone on a platform
Speaker 2: like this, have no ability to truly give insight an
Speaker 2: analysis on something like this. And be shocked if even
Speaker 2: those that are doctors that have a history in treating
Speaker 2: athletes that suffer head injuries, concussions, those kind of things,
Speaker 2: even if they are the quote unquote experts of this,
Speaker 2: I don't think there's like an exact like Okay, here
Speaker 2: we go, we check the numbers, we crunched the data. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's good to go. But if he gets two more
Speaker 2: concussions in the next eighteen months, then he's got it.
Speaker 2: Like I don't, I mean, I think not to say
Speaker 2: everybody's guessing. Clearly, there's a lot of data and science
Speaker 2: that can help you come to these conclusions. But it's
Speaker 2: still a risk man, because he could go out there
Speaker 2: and play for five six more years and never get
Speaker 2: a concussion. He's never knowing that's gonna happen. But you
Speaker 2: also don't know that if he suffers another one or
Speaker 2: two more in the next five six years, what that
Speaker 2: could do to him long term. It's a very unique
Speaker 2: situation when it comes to sports. I mean, guys get injured, right,
Speaker 2: but football, American football specifically, it's not a baby. But
Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, like when it comes
Speaker 2: to like society, I think we're still learning the effects
Speaker 2: of what playing football at that level can do to
Speaker 2: someone when they get older. We've seen, like we know
Speaker 2: CTE is the thing. We know there are guys who
Speaker 2: are in very very poor health, rather it be upstairs
Speaker 2: mentally or just their bodies in general, because of the
Speaker 2: violent sport that they played and where it gets. And
Speaker 2: I don't hear this mentioned a whole lot. Maybe it
Speaker 2: is mentioned a lot elsewhere. I just don't consume that
Speaker 2: content or I don't hear it or read about it.
Speaker 2: But these guys have never been bigger than they are
Speaker 2: right now. They've never been faster than they are right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you get a hit in an NFL game,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's worse than getting in a car wreck.
Speaker 2: With the way they make vehicles so safe now, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like, you you know, I don't mean to
Speaker 2: make light of it. I'm not trying to make a joke,
Speaker 2: but like I feel like I would rather, you know,
Speaker 2: be in a seat belt and have a car hit
Speaker 2: me in the side than be tackled in a football
Speaker 2: game by an NFL life. I mean, what do I know.
Speaker 2: Maybe a doctor's saying, God, this guy's a real dumb ass.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get himself killed if that's the way he've
Speaker 2: used it, and maybe the doctor would be right, But
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like football is a violent sport, always
Speaker 2: has been, and these guys had never been more physically built.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's just scary man, bigger, stronger, faster.
Speaker 2: Every year the NFL takes a step forward in that department.
Speaker 2: And I do think the NFL has done a really
Speaker 2: good job of just doing whatever they can to one
Speaker 2: let the public know they care about player safety and
Speaker 2: to continuously try to learn and develop new ways to
Speaker 2: keep players safe as safe as possible, and I you know,
Speaker 2: that's all you can do. But with all that said,
Speaker 2: it's always going to be a violent sport unless you
Speaker 2: don't let them tackle, unless you want to put the
Speaker 2: flags on them, It's always going to be a violent
Speaker 2: sport where somebody could, realistically good, somebody could die on
Speaker 2: any given play. That sounds so dramatic and over the top,
Speaker 2: but think about it. I mean, that's not that's that's
Speaker 2: not that crazy. It doesn't happened, and it you know,
Speaker 2: it would be a real rarity. But again, just think
Speaker 2: about the collisions that you see. So with Tua now
Speaker 2: having you know, as many concussions as he's had, like
Speaker 2: it's a real thing for people to be floating out
Speaker 2: there like maybe we've seen him play his last game.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to pull up the exact breakdown
Speaker 2: of like you know, his injuries because he had was
Speaker 2: it two or three concussions? Trying to pull it up
Speaker 2: here because it is important to cut Yeah, here's his
Speaker 2: concussion history. So Thursday night it was his third registered concussion.
Speaker 2: There was some speculation that he had had a fourth,
Speaker 2: but apparently another injury that he'd had previously was not
Speaker 2: ruled a concussion. So he went last year twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: the entire season where he was very good for Mike McDaniel,
Speaker 2: and that led to him having a real kind of resurgence.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's not the right way to describe it, because
Speaker 2: he's a young guy, but early on and it's time
Speaker 2: there in Miami, it didn't look great for him. You know,
Speaker 2: obviously we know that he did not have a great
Speaker 2: relationship with his former head coach, and he threw that
Speaker 2: guy under the bus. And I would have done the
Speaker 2: same thing, I think if what Tuas said was true
Speaker 2: as far as just that coach just not really being
Speaker 2: one that tried to build him up and help him,
Speaker 2: and Mike McDaniel doing the opposite and really helping him.
Speaker 2: And clearly it worked because toa was great last year.
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, I'm sure you'll find some that
Speaker 2: criticized the deal that the Dolphins gave him. But once
Speaker 2: he played a full year last year without these kind
Speaker 2: of an injury, without these kind of injuries, it's not
Speaker 2: to say that people assumed he'd never have another injury again,
Speaker 2: but like you know, kind of out of sight, out
Speaker 2: of mind, and then now here you go. It just
Speaker 2: takes one hit to where he leaves the game. You
Speaker 2: can tell that he's concussed, and now here we are again.
Speaker 2: Like again, there's there's there's legitimate concern that like maybe
Speaker 2: he should not play anymore. So Mike McDaniel, let's see here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel did say that Tua was checked by an
Speaker 2: independent neurologist and was out of the NFL's concussion protocol
Speaker 2: following the last time that he had gotten he'd gotten
Speaker 2: banged up. So that was not last night, that was
Speaker 2: the last time he had some kind of an injury.
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's it's scary. It's a scary thing,
Speaker 2: no doubt, and nobody knows like what he's gonna do.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know what he's gonna do. But Mike McDaniel,
Speaker 2: who I really like, by the way, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: how good of a coach he is. I did. I
Speaker 2: don't have the stat in front of me, but I
Speaker 2: did see it. I did here. I think it might
Speaker 2: have been it might have been one of the national
Speaker 2: shows discussing like Mike McDaniel has a really bad record
Speaker 2: against teams with a winning record, But I like, I
Speaker 2: mean to me, I just think he's a pretty likable
Speaker 2: coach overall. But he was asked last night, which he
Speaker 2: knew he was going to be asked, I'm sure, but
Speaker 2: he was asked last night on whether Tua Tugabalowa should retire.
Speaker 2: And this is about two minutes, so it's a little
Speaker 2: lengthy as far as clips that that we typically play
Speaker 2: on this show. But I I love this guy, meaning McDaniel,
Speaker 2: and I don't think he could have answered this any
Speaker 2: better and handled it any better given the circumstance. I think.
Speaker 3: It would be so so wrong of me two to
Speaker 3: even sniff that subject. And and it's more in line
Speaker 3: of actually caring about the human being. And you know,
Speaker 3: that's something that that entirely you're talking about his career, right,
Speaker 3: His career is his, you know, and that's something that
Speaker 3: I think I just really really really wish I totally
Speaker 3: understand it, and it's not misplaced. I totally get how
Speaker 3: that's where people want to go to. I just wish
Speaker 3: that people would for seconds hear what I'm saying that
Speaker 3: bringing up his future is not the best interest of him.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm gonna plead with everybody that you
Speaker 3: know that does genuinely care that that should be the
Speaker 3: last thing on your mind because you don't like, what
Speaker 3: do you think that's if? If if I would answer
Speaker 3: that question, I'd be like, all right, this is this
Speaker 3: is my thoughts on his career. If he read it,
Speaker 3: if he felt if he agreed with it, or he
Speaker 3: disagreed with it. Either way, I've just made him worse.
Speaker 3: So I'm not taking this opportunity to just not you know,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's appropriate simply because of my care
Speaker 3: and regard and I don't think those types of conversations
Speaker 3: when we were talking about somebody's somebody's career, I think
Speaker 3: it probably is only fair that their career should be
Speaker 3: decided by them. You know.
Speaker 2: So I hadn't mentioned this yet, but by the way
Speaker 2: that sound you heard there, there was a zoom press conference.
Speaker 2: So the s I d's gotta gotta silence that feature.
Speaker 2: So like somebody if you're doing a zoom press or
Speaker 2: somebody's gotta you gotta like push a button or like
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can, like I think you
Speaker 2: raise your hand or something within a zoom or a
Speaker 2: team's call. Not literally raise your hand, but like there's
Speaker 2: a button that you hit and it tells you, Okay,
Speaker 2: this person's on the call, they have a next question.
Speaker 2: That was why that sound came in. But nonetheless, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't want to say, I don't need I
Speaker 2: don't know. It's uncomfortable. I don't know the right word
Speaker 2: to use. But DeMar Hamlin, the guy who died on
Speaker 2: a football field two years ago and you know, came
Speaker 2: back to life, him being the guy that hit to
Speaker 2: a That's crazy, is it not weird? It's eerie. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's eerie. I wonder how he feels. He you know,
Speaker 2: he was you know, I I think you could tell
Speaker 2: body language from him. He was, he was pretty. He
Speaker 2: didn't do anything dirty, but he realized that he like
Speaker 2: you know, everybody in the league knows too his situation,
Speaker 2: and you know, he's somebody who knows firsthand how scary
Speaker 2: it can be to to have your livelihood, your life
Speaker 2: potentially being you know, with him. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: crazy to say his life was in jeopardy. He was dead.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happened. But you know, I among
Speaker 2: many other players in the NFL, including those that played
Speaker 2: in the game last night, all sharing you know, well,
Speaker 2: wishes for Tua tomorrow. Hamlin was one of them. But man,
Speaker 2: I I'm trying not to make any kind of light
Speaker 2: of the situation, but are you kidding me? Tomorrow Hamlin
Speaker 2: being the guy that wasn't on the other end of
Speaker 2: the collision here, Like that's crazy. So look, if I
Speaker 2: was to you know, and I was in my early
Speaker 2: twenties and at this point in my life, I would
Speaker 2: hope that I don't know if Tua has children, if
Speaker 2: he's married, Like, even if he does it as a
Speaker 2: young adult, his life has probably been football since he
Speaker 2: can remember. So you know, there's that weird there's that
Speaker 2: weird thing that athletes go through, especially those in college
Speaker 2: that don't get a chance to play professionally. Like, you
Speaker 2: haven't emptiness in you you have really unless you're just
Speaker 2: driven and you know why you're playing the game. What
Speaker 2: you're going to do post life after your playing career ends,
Speaker 2: and some people do and then they kind of lose
Speaker 2: their way. Like if you have given your whole life,
Speaker 2: like every bit of time and energy and effort into
Speaker 2: your career as an athlete, and it's led to you
Speaker 2: having the opportunity to play high level in college even
Speaker 2: maybe briefly in the NFL, Like once you realize that
Speaker 2: that part of your life is over and you got
Speaker 2: to find something else. That can be difficult for people.
Speaker 2: In fact, there's not enough attention on that, Like it's
Speaker 2: a mental health thing for these athletes who when it's over,
Speaker 2: they don't even know they don't they feel like they
Speaker 2: don't have a purpose because that's all they've ever done.
Speaker 2: So like if you're too a and again, I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to put myself in issues, which is impossible to do,
Speaker 2: but I'll give it a shot anyway. If I was
Speaker 2: told by a doctor, hey, you have had a lot
Speaker 2: of concussions, and I can't sit here and tell you
Speaker 2: that you're not cleared to play because we have no
Speaker 2: clip if you'll ever have a concussion or not. We
Speaker 2: know football is dangerous, but you played the whole season
Speaker 2: last year at the same position, quarterback, and you didn't
Speaker 2: have a concussion. So it's up to you. You can
Speaker 2: risk it. It's a risk. Everybody knows that, but like
Speaker 2: it's your call. I feel like if I was him,
Speaker 2: I would say, well, I don't even know what else
Speaker 2: I would do in my life, So I'm going to
Speaker 2: play football. That's all I know. And I'm going to
Speaker 2: choose to just believe that I'll be safe because this
Speaker 2: is my safe place being a football player. That sounds
Speaker 2: so stupid and small minded and just like tunnel vision.
Speaker 2: But like, and I don't know too well. I mean
Speaker 2: I don't know to it all, but like I don't
Speaker 2: know his situation. Like I feel like if I was
Speaker 2: if I had children, and like I at least had
Speaker 2: given some thought about life after playing, because I knew it,
Speaker 2: you know, I just had that maturity. Like maybe it'd
Speaker 2: be a different conversation. But I just think if they
Speaker 2: put it in his hands, like gosh, I can't imagine
Speaker 2: how difficult that would be. Because again not to say
Speaker 2: he's just a football player, shut up and play football,
Speaker 2: you serve no other purpose, but again to get to
Speaker 2: that level, to be as successful as a lot of
Speaker 2: these guys are, you know, elite quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 2: You got to give it everything you have. It has
Speaker 2: to be your life, it has to consume you. It
Speaker 2: is your craft, it is your job, it's your livelihood.
Speaker 2: And it has been probably for you know, the last
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty years of his life. However old he is,
Speaker 2: so really just a rare situation in sports. That is
Speaker 2: just you know, I cause, again this may shock some
Speaker 2: of you. I have no experience or knowledge, and you
Speaker 2: know neurology and brain injuries of any capacity, especially those
Speaker 2: in sports, but there cannot be a specific Like I
Speaker 2: put it this way, I have a hard time seeing
Speaker 2: somebody from a medical standpoint be able to tell him
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to play. We're going to tell the
Speaker 2: NFL you can't play anymore. So without that, like if
Speaker 2: it is just up to him, man, that just it'd
Speaker 2: be such a tough decision, it really would. And it's sad,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 2: It's not like again, everybody gets their bell rung right
Speaker 2: like it happens in football. But like if I'm too,
Speaker 2: I'd be thinking why me, Like why do I have
Speaker 2: bad luck? Like what am I doing differently than all
Speaker 2: the other guys out there that are playing this violent sport.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, all right. We got Brooks and Done tickets
Speaker 2: to give away, folks. I think we're gonna do trivia again, John,
Speaker 2: We're gonna do band named trivia, or we're gonna do
Speaker 2: something else. I'm gonna give it some thought during the break,
Speaker 2: but Cove thirty will be the giveaway, and uh, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna try to do something different. I don't want to
Speaker 2: promise that it's gonna be like something we've never done
Speaker 2: before to give tickets away, but I'm gonna try to
Speaker 2: get creative as best I can. No promises that it'll be.
Speaker 2: You know, people don't care about creativity. They just want
Speaker 2: to win. They want to they want to get tickets
Speaker 2: to boot scooting boog either way down to the kfcum
Speaker 2: Center in April to see Brooks and Done. And I'll
Speaker 2: be there too, by the way. So I mean, if
Speaker 2: that doesn't add a little extra to the to the win,
Speaker 2: to the prize you'll get to go and I'll be
Speaker 2: there too, Then that make it more appealing, John, I mean,
Speaker 2: why not? I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm sure you know
Speaker 2: that doesn't that doesn't entice you in anyway. You just
Speaker 2: want to go see Brooks and done and I get it.
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Speaker 2: if you could only bet on the UK Georgia game
Speaker 2: and you had to empty your account, even though you
Speaker 2: hate Kentucky, would you take Georgia to cover the monster number? Again?
Speaker 2: It's the only bet you can make this weekend. First
Speaker 2: of all, I don't I don't have to follow your rules.
Speaker 2: But again, this is a hypothetical. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2: That's a good question, and I hear I am trying
Speaker 2: to answer without giving it any thought until you just
Speaker 2: ask me. I'm gonna go see what the number is
Speaker 2: right now. But until I find the number, I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like I would take Kentucky to cover. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's me just assuming that George is gonna show some mercy.
Speaker 4: What good does it do them to show mercy? I
Speaker 4: know it's kind of a be a courtesy to brock
Speaker 4: a Vandigars.
Speaker 2: That was it. That was the only thing I can
Speaker 2: think of it's at twenty two now, like I if
Speaker 2: I had again, if you're telling me that I only
Speaker 2: can bet on one game and I have to bet
Speaker 2: every bit that's in my account, and you know, my my,
Speaker 2: my livelihood as a better the rest of this season
Speaker 2: on college football is dependent upon me getting this game
Speaker 2: right minus twenty two, I would take Georgia. If it
Speaker 2: got to like minus twenty four and a half, I'd
Speaker 2: probably take Kentucky. And I don't put it this way.
Speaker 2: I don't believe Kentucky is as bad as what they
Speaker 2: look like against South Carolina. And that's what actually is
Speaker 2: more troubling for Kentucky fans and their I guess belief
Speaker 2: in Mark Stoops is the guy moving forward. Not to
Speaker 2: say that they all went and fired, but like what
Speaker 2: happens the rest of this season will be a big
Speaker 2: time will be a big time factor in how Kentucky
Speaker 2: fans look at their program moving forward. And again, I
Speaker 2: don't think that even if he went three and nine,
Speaker 2: four and eight, you would see the majority of their
Speaker 2: fan base encouraging Barnhart to push him out. But like
Speaker 2: it would be one of those things where you just
Speaker 2: have to say to yourself now this is run its course,
Speaker 2: and he's not happy. The best football that he had,
Speaker 2: the best football for him at Kentucky is in pass
Speaker 2: like we need something fresh. He's clearly overworked. He let
Speaker 2: you know that before the season started. So I I
Speaker 2: think I think Kentucky. I mean they got good players, man,
Speaker 2: like that's I wish I could say that they had
Speaker 2: Joker Phillips caliber talent, but they don't. They've got really
Speaker 2: good players. They've got some injury issues going on. I
Speaker 2: don't know if did you see Vandergrips banged up. He's
Speaker 2: on the injury report. If he doesn't play, it's it's
Speaker 2: a different game. But I think he will play out.
Speaker 2: They didn't list him as out, but on the SEC
Speaker 2: injury report that all schools in the league are required
Speaker 2: to submit, he was listed. So you know, I just
Speaker 2: think that Georgia will. So yeah, minus twenty two, I
Speaker 2: would take Georgia. I'm not touching this game, by the way.
Speaker 2: If I do, though, I would take what I would take.
Speaker 2: What Brian Edwards Vegas Insider throughout there yesterday. I think
Speaker 2: if you just look at the total points for for
Speaker 2: Georgia here, let's see here, Yeah, team yeah. I mean
Speaker 2: Georgia over thirty four and a half is plus one
Speaker 2: oh five. I think that's probably the best bet here
Speaker 2: in this game, because I think George is gonna score
Speaker 2: as many points as they want. And with Kentucky, you know,
Speaker 2: they've got really good players on the outside. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think they've got some good tight ends. I certainly
Speaker 2: know what they have with Barry and Brown and Dame Key,
Speaker 2: you know, but in their quarterback may be good. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's impossible to know. He didn't look good the other day,
Speaker 2: but I do think he deserves a little bit of
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt because of how bad his
Speaker 2: offensive line was. But Ken Spencer said something earlier this
Speaker 2: week about about Brock Vandergriff that really stood out to me,
Speaker 2: and that was that he started seeing ghosts out there
Speaker 2: just throwing terrible balls because the pressure had been there,
Speaker 2: and it was there consistently, and he was just overwhelmed,
Speaker 2: as most quarterbacks would. But like, if you are special
Speaker 2: as a quarterback, you really never see ghosts like that.
Speaker 2: So hearing Kirby Smart talk about how much he loved
Speaker 2: Brock Vandergriff and how much you know, he's a Georgia boy,
Speaker 2: he's always going to be a Georgia Bulldog. He won
Speaker 2: two national championships here. He left this place better than
Speaker 2: when he got here. I didn't get the sense that
Speaker 2: that's just a coach talking about a guy who used
Speaker 2: to play that moved on. I think he loves Brock.
Speaker 2: I think they think he's really good. But they understood
Speaker 2: now with the portal look. He played behind two different
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that can win national championships there. He has to
Speaker 2: move on if he wants to play. So I think
Speaker 2: in a way they could show some mercy. But to
Speaker 2: your point, John, this day at age man, I think
Speaker 2: style points matter. They can tell us that they don't,
Speaker 2: but they do.
Speaker 4: And plus, we don't know how good or bad Kentucky's
Speaker 4: going to be, and if they end up being a
Speaker 4: really bad team, Georgia doesn't want it to look closer
Speaker 4: than it should be.
Speaker 2: It's a really good point. You don't want to show
Speaker 2: mercy here. And then you get to the end of
Speaker 2: the year and maybe you have a head scratching loss
Speaker 2: to somebody that shouldn't that you shouldn't have lost to,
Speaker 2: and then they bring in and they only beat Kentucky
Speaker 2: by seventeen that's a good point. So what would you
Speaker 2: do if you were if the question was asked to
Speaker 2: you that was just asked to me. It's minus twenty two.
Speaker 2: Would you take the dogs or take in Kentuck or
Speaker 2: not Kentucky uga to cover? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: even if Kentucky beat South Carolina, that would probably still
Speaker 2: be a line that would be hovering around twenty two points,
Speaker 2: and most people would probably still take Georgia. I'm not
Speaker 2: expecting Kentucky to come out and like, you know, shock
Speaker 2: people and keep this game super close. But like I know,
Speaker 2: they have way better personnel than what they look like
Speaker 2: against South Carolina. And to be honest with you, that's
Speaker 2: what's got to be scary. If you're a Kentucky fan,
Speaker 2: you know you have better players in South Carolina, and
Speaker 2: yet you look like that. But when Stoops usually is
Speaker 2: looked at as far as having no shot to even
Speaker 2: keep it close, they never win, but they usually end
Speaker 2: up buying, Like Mark Stoops covering here would be so
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops, I think, but I'm not trusting it. I
Speaker 2: would take Georgia minus twenty two. Interesting question. I like
Speaker 2: when people give me the hypotheticals like that, really get
Speaker 2: me thinking upstairs, don't go anywhere. It's Cofee and company.
Speaker 2: We are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk
Speaker 2: seven ninety So I usually don't start even looking at
Speaker 2: what NFL games I want to bet on until I
Speaker 2: get to until I get to Sunday, which is probably
Speaker 2: why I'm not. You know, I don't even know if
Speaker 2: preparation would help me. It can't hurt. But anyways, I'm
Speaker 2: now trying to start to get a little bit of
Speaker 2: an earlier look at what I want to do when
Speaker 2: it comes to NFL Sundays, not just because of you know,
Speaker 2: I want to be more prepared, but I really am
Speaker 2: enjoying getting in on the underdog fantasy action, which I'll
Speaker 2: talk a little more about that later, because if you
Speaker 2: are somebody that enjoys wagering on sports, but you really
Speaker 2: find yourself more interested in the player aspect, like player
Speaker 2: totals and whatnot, there's no better place to do it
Speaker 2: than underdog fantasy. And I mean again, getting it right
Speaker 2: is just like getting it right when you bet a game,
Speaker 2: whether it be a total over underspread, money line, whatever.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, I just feel like you're
Speaker 2: you're not relying upon as much if you just need
Speaker 2: one player to go out there and get four touches
Speaker 2: four catches whenever the line is set at three and
Speaker 2: a half. So anyways, the NFL is phenomenal, and the
Speaker 2: NFL on the Internet, man, the memes out there are crazy,
Speaker 2: and there were some that, you know, I get what
Speaker 2: the internet is. I'm well aware of, like the scum
Speaker 2: that you will find all over the Internet, including Twitter,
Speaker 2: which I think has become really the breeding ground for
Speaker 2: scumbags on the Internet. If we're being honest. Twitter's got
Speaker 2: its purposes and it's got its value, but man, it's
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not in a great place right now.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless this one is mean, but it's also funny
Speaker 2: to me. Malik Willis is that his name. The quarterback
Speaker 2: who played at Liberty was drafted by the Titans and
Speaker 2: then a year later they drafted Will Levis and traded
Speaker 2: Malik Willis to the Packers. He's now starting in place
Speaker 2: of Jordan Love. And if you look at just the
Speaker 2: picture of the on the bio, like if you go
Speaker 2: to the Green Bay Packers website and look at the
Speaker 2: Malik Willis page, like his bio, he's got a real
Speaker 2: cheesy grin, but also looks kind of like unsure of himself.
Speaker 2: And it just it's a meme that says when you
Speaker 2: are unexpectedly gonna be relied on at your job, because
Speaker 2: it looks like a guy who's like, oh crap, they're
Speaker 2: gonna they want me to play quarterback. I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just here to try to, you know, And who knows,
Speaker 2: maybe he ends up making his debut with the pa
Speaker 2: Ackers and has success, But like, this is a guy
Speaker 2: that in Tennessee never really showed any sign of being
Speaker 2: a guy that could be your future franchise quarterback. And
Speaker 2: you know, they drafted him in the third round for
Speaker 2: some reason. I thought he got drafted a lot earlier.
Speaker 2: I think what it was is that at coming out
Speaker 2: of Liberty. He was at Auburn for two years and
Speaker 2: then went to Liberty and put up some big numbers
Speaker 2: there playing for playing for who wasn't I can't think
Speaker 2: of who it was. Liberty's coach has changed since then,
Speaker 2: I believe, because now you've got Jamie Chadwell that's there
Speaker 2: at Liberty. But either way, he was supposed to be
Speaker 2: a guy that was a top five overall pick at
Speaker 2: one point. I mean, that was the hype that Malik
Speaker 2: Will has had and then of course in Tennessee it
Speaker 2: just didn't work out. And now he's in Green Bay
Speaker 2: and now he's going to be the guy that they
Speaker 2: they need to lead him. But anyways, I'm going to
Speaker 2: give you guys what I like, and I don't you know,
Speaker 2: I hate even selling this when it comes to I
Speaker 2: could fake it. Like, in fact, I probably should do
Speaker 2: a better job baking it, especially when I'm going to
Speaker 2: be talking about what I'm doing with the with the
Speaker 2: the player bets on the Underdog Fantasy app. But like
Speaker 2: I've been so historically bad at betting on the NFL.
Speaker 2: Like when I share with you what I'm gonna do,
Speaker 2: I get worried that people might in fact tail me
Speaker 2: John because I don't want them losing their heart earned money.
Speaker 2: And that's what I do when I bet on the NFL.
Speaker 2: I lose hard earned money.
Speaker 4: Then they come for your head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, although I do have some momentum because I had
Speaker 2: I had a three leg parlay that did hit. I
Speaker 2: had two results to go my way on Sunday in
Speaker 2: the late in the later games, and then I was
Speaker 2: waiting for Monday night to happen, and sure enough, the
Speaker 2: Niners came through and delivered. That was nice for me
Speaker 2: to get that one. And then last night it didn't
Speaker 2: cash a ticket because I parlayed it, but I did
Speaker 2: trust the Bills as underdogs to win money line and
Speaker 2: they won without any troubles. So you know, if anything,
Speaker 2: I guess I got some momentum. But we'll talk a
Speaker 2: little more about those picks and other college football picks
Speaker 2: that we've got before we get out of here. But
Speaker 2: I do want to talk to you guys about something
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Speaker 2: they're part of your family, right and anytime you have
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Speaker 2: have to go there for an emergency, but you also
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Speaker 2: let's see here, here's what we're gonna do for the
Speaker 2: giveaway at five thirty for the Brooks and Done concert tickets.
Speaker 2: We are gonna be doing the real band, fake band.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you and get it. Five thirty is
Speaker 2: when we're gonna do it. So that's when we will
Speaker 2: open up the phone lines and you can try to
Speaker 2: be one of the first two to get in because
Speaker 2: that's that's how you end up being able to participate.
Speaker 2: And we'll give you two different band names. One of
Speaker 2: them is a band and the other one is a
Speaker 2: made up band that does not exist at least yet.
Speaker 2: We've been doing this long enough. You think maybe anybody
Speaker 2: started a band with one of our names. John, there's
Speaker 2: a chance.
Speaker 4: What's the one that Elliott always gave out whenever he
Speaker 4: would do this year?
Speaker 2: No, So, so Elliott has been an Elliott by the way,
Speaker 2: he's no longer with us. I mean he's not dead,
Speaker 2: but he no longer works here. I used to do
Speaker 2: that when people would like leave iHeart, I would just
Speaker 2: say they're no longer with us, and I realized, oh,
Speaker 2: they might think that person's dead. I did that with
Speaker 2: Nick the Brick, who only worked here for like a
Speaker 2: few months, but he became a good buddy of mine.
Speaker 2: But he's not dead. He just left to go do
Speaker 2: a different career. But anyways, Elliott's in a bunch of
Speaker 2: different bands. He has been throughout. I mean, Elliott's a's
Speaker 2: he's a musician. He used to produce shows for us
Speaker 2: here at iHeart, and he moved on to do something else.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think here are his band names.
Speaker 2: He had one called work Shirt, he had one called
Speaker 2: wax Eater, and there was another one I'm blanking on.
Speaker 2: So I told him one time, I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: you'd be the one that can actually tell me if,
Speaker 2: like these are good band names or not, because you
Speaker 2: have named all the bands that you've been in and
Speaker 2: they're pretty good and you put on music shows and whatnot,
Speaker 2: so like you, you, you would be one person I
Speaker 2: would in fact take real legitimate feedback from as far
Speaker 2: as are my band names trash or are they decent?
Speaker 2: Or are they good? And uh he's you know, he
Speaker 2: was pretty direct, like, hey, shoot me, shoot shoot it
Speaker 2: to me. What do you got? And the first two
Speaker 2: I thought were good, but he he didn't like him.
Speaker 2: One was Whiffle Balls in Vegas. He didn't like that,
Speaker 2: asked waxed and Milwaukee. I think that's good. He said,
Speaker 2: nah to it's too much. And I like, what do
Speaker 2: you mean too much? Like there's band names that I
Speaker 2: can't even say on the radio and he's like, no,
Speaker 2: it's just it's just a lot. There's a lot, it's long.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay. So then I gave him this
Speaker 2: one and he was like, oh, that that that that's
Speaker 2: going to be a band before too long septic circumstance.
Speaker 2: That's good, isn't it?
Speaker 4: It is it sounds like some alt rock, alt metal,
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 2: And I said, I worry a little bit about if
Speaker 2: you say it fast, like you could get you could
Speaker 2: get tongue tied. He's like, oh no, like and he
Speaker 2: gave me. He gave me the vision of like if
Speaker 2: they're if they're ever a band and they're out there
Speaker 2: alt rock and they've got some momentum, and like people
Speaker 2: in town are talking about going to the show because
Speaker 2: they're coming. They're bringing like we're not at the Yum
Speaker 2: Septum Circumstances, not at the Young Center yet, but we
Speaker 2: might get the Palace, we might get Zanzibar or something right,
Speaker 2: something like that, and more intimate venue. What's that other
Speaker 2: venue in Louisville that's been putting on shows forever, Mercury. No,
Speaker 2: Mercury is one of them. Maybe we do Mercury though,
Speaker 2: What am I thinking of headline towns? But that's another
Speaker 2: one they headliners. Yeah, we're at headliners. That's where septum
Speaker 2: septic circumstances. And again when I mentioned how it could
Speaker 2: get tongue ted, he said, oh no, what people would do,
Speaker 2: They'd say, hey, you go to the Septic show. And
Speaker 2: I'm like Oh dude, I feel like I want to
Speaker 2: go to the Septic show now a band that doesn't exist,
Speaker 2: because like it just sounds so real. So again, we'll
Speaker 2: give you two different band names and you will determine
Speaker 2: if they're real or if they're fake, and if you
Speaker 2: get it actually, yeah, we'll give you two. You got
Speaker 2: to determine which one's real, and if you get it right,
Speaker 2: you get a point. And whoever has the most points
Speaker 2: when where we finished the contest, you will be winners
Speaker 2: of the of the Brooks and Done the Brooks and
Speaker 2: Done tickets our last pair of tickets to give away,
Speaker 2: at least, I think I think we'll actually probably be
Speaker 2: able to give away more when we get closer to it,
Speaker 2: but it's it's a long way away, all right, real quick,
Speaker 2: before we get to our next break. This is something
Speaker 2: that has become not really a big story within the NFL,
Speaker 2: but it's at least, you know, made its way to
Speaker 2: the internet and people are talking about it. The Raiders
Speaker 2: had a press conference following their season opening loss on Sunday,
Speaker 2: and while the media is in the press room waiting
Speaker 2: for the coach the quarterback to arrive, you know they're
Speaker 2: they're they're chatting amongst themselves. If you've ever like been
Speaker 2: to a press conference, or if you've ever been like
Speaker 2: listening to a show waiting for the press conference to start,
Speaker 2: and like we send it there and we're waiting for
Speaker 2: somebody to walk up and we can't see it. Like
Speaker 2: it's different Now most of the time we just carry
Speaker 2: the stream and you can see quite literally what you
Speaker 2: know where they are. But it did. It used to
Speaker 2: work that way. We used to have to send people
Speaker 2: out there with equipment and they would say, like Will
Speaker 2: Clark would say, Hey, we're going live here, and then
Speaker 2: I just got to wait for the coach to walk
Speaker 2: in and sit down, but I don't know where he is.
Speaker 2: So you can hear people around you, right, there's microphones
Speaker 2: that are on well sometimes like there's an actual feed
Speaker 2: that the team is sending out, which is what we
Speaker 2: use now, Like if we want to play a press conference,
Speaker 2: I'm going to pull up the Louisville Fotball Twitter account
Speaker 2: and let you hear Jef Brom talk on that because
Speaker 2: that's the easiest way to do it. But sometimes they
Speaker 2: go live prematurely and there's a hot mic and there's
Speaker 2: people talking right and it's not players or coaches. It's
Speaker 2: the media hacks that are in there waiting to ask questions,
Speaker 2: and they don't know that they're live. They don't know that,
Speaker 2: like even if they're talking quietly, there is a hot
Speaker 2: live mic that is at the podium and like you
Speaker 2: might you talk loud enough, it might pick up what
Speaker 2: you're gonna say. So here's what happened. And I bring
Speaker 2: this up to ask like who's like, who's at fault
Speaker 2: for this? Is anybody at fault? Like should report? The
Speaker 2: Raiders reporters were caught on the hot mic at the
Speaker 2: press common conference trash talking the team. And I think
Speaker 2: this clip has it might not sound great. Let me
Speaker 2: see what this sounds like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, unless unless Gardner and I'm just gonna get his as.
Speaker 2: I So that sounded terrible and you might not have
Speaker 2: been able to hear what was said. But Gardner's gonna
Speaker 2: get his ass kicked, Bob Baltimore. That's that's what was said, uh,
Speaker 2: by one of the media guys that is there. And
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just curious, like who who? If there's
Speaker 2: anybody at fault, it's got to be the Raiders for
Speaker 2: sending that out live on their like at their press conference,
Speaker 2: not realizing that, like it's gonna pick that up. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm sure the reporter whoever it was that said that,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure the raven or the Raiders know who
Speaker 2: it was that said that. Like I'm sure he's not
Speaker 2: happy because he probably said that to another colleague of
Speaker 2: his or one of his peers in the media there
Speaker 2: that covers the Raiders. But like, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: really know who's to blame here, you know what I mean? John, Like,
Speaker 2: if anything, I would blame it on the Raiders. But
Speaker 2: then again, like you know, maybe they don't care if
Speaker 2: that was out there. Gardner Minshew probably is not happy
Speaker 2: about it, but like you know, he's in the Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's in the NFL. He knows he's going to be criticized.
Speaker 2: He's a career journeyman. I don't think anything at this
Speaker 2: point in his career, there's not been a team that's
Speaker 2: been ready to just say he's the guy, right he
Speaker 2: won the job in Oakland, or not Oakland, but in Vegas,
Speaker 2: because who's the quarterback for Purdue that ended up there?
Speaker 2: He didn't win the job. Co Yeah, no, Connor could win.
Speaker 2: Could't win the gigs, so that's why Gardner Minshew is there.
Speaker 2: But it just got me thinking, and I'm glad somebody
Speaker 2: who sent this in on the text line earlier this week, Like,
Speaker 2: have I ever worried about being at a press conference,
Speaker 2: which I've gone to a press conference in a long
Speaker 2: time because I can't usually I'm going live right on
Speaker 2: the air here as soon as the game ends. But no,
Speaker 2: I've never Usually I don't. I'm not one that's just
Speaker 2: chitty chatty with people that are there. But I will
Speaker 2: say this, nothing crazy, like nothing. I'm gonna try to
Speaker 2: say this without sounding like a douche who's like, oh,
Speaker 2: if you guys knew what was really going on, because
Speaker 2: I don't want to mislead people. But there are people
Speaker 2: who like their their image, their brand, in their writing,
Speaker 2: or in their appearance on television, or in their apparent
Speaker 2: just you know, online. Like it's not not to say
Speaker 2: that they're not legitimate, genuine people, but like they're a
Speaker 2: little different when they're not in front of a microphone
Speaker 2: or not in front of a camera. And you know,
Speaker 2: there's just been some things said about Bobby Petrino in
Speaker 2: particular by media members that like if it was picked
Speaker 2: up by hot mic and everybody heard it, like we'd
Speaker 2: probably laugh because I think everybody would know that it
Speaker 2: would be true, but it'd be people that you would
Speaker 2: never expect, like where did that come from? I didn't
Speaker 2: know he had that in him. So anyways, quick break,
Speaker 2: we'll come back on the other side, wrap up the
Speaker 2: four o'clock hour. It's coffee and company. We are fewl
Speaker 2: about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. So
Speaker 2: this is not a serious criminal offense, but it's one
Speaker 2: of many for Georgia's So obviously they've got Kentucky this weekend.
Speaker 2: There's soft more. Defensive back Daniel Harris was arrested in
Speaker 2: Athens on Thursday night for reckless driving and for other
Speaker 2: misdemeanor charges. That again, reckless driving obviously something you shouldn't
Speaker 2: do and you can't do. But the amount of driving
Speaker 2: related arrests and charges that have been within the Georgia
Speaker 2: football program is crazy. The Atlanta General Constitution has recounted
Speaker 2: twenty four different incidents between January twenty twenty three and
Speaker 2: July of twenty twenty four, So now add this one.
Speaker 2: Just you know, two months later, they have another arrest
Speaker 2: and again for the most part, I mean, they've not
Speaker 2: been really terrible. But if you remember, there was a
Speaker 2: tragic accident that results it in resulted in a death,
Speaker 2: I mean in yeah, it was in March, March of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. They ended up they end it up
Speaker 2: charging one of the former players for his role in
Speaker 2: the January fifteenth crash for street racing and reckless driving.
Speaker 2: And of course you know that was I mean, there
Speaker 2: was somebody who lost their lives. So there's some people
Speaker 2: making the comparison that, like with the amount of arrests
Speaker 2: and charges that they've had, that Kirby Smart is turning
Speaker 2: into the new version of Urban Meyer when he was
Speaker 2: at Florida because of all the criminal issues they had.
Speaker 2: But like, and there were some crazy things going on,
Speaker 2: which it really is wild that that documentary that Untold
Speaker 2: did for Netflix that featured I mean, it was multiple
Speaker 2: episodes that featured that era of Florida football under Urban
Speaker 2: Meyer when they were phenomenal, and like, they just didn't
Speaker 2: bring up all the crazy That's what that's really where
Speaker 2: they dropped the ball. I love those series. I'll still
Speaker 2: watch them, even though they kind of have turned into
Speaker 2: pr pieces. These documentaries. But how are you going to
Speaker 2: do a four episode special on urban Meyer and not
Speaker 2: bring up you know that there was a murderer who
Speaker 2: was the tight end, and that you know Tim Tebow,
Speaker 2: the the you know, Jesus reincarnated himself as your quarterback,
Speaker 2: and you've got all the like the pouncy twins. I
Speaker 2: mean Cam Newton was was was there and got dismissed
Speaker 2: because he got caught stealing all laptop had to go
Speaker 2: Juco before he ended up at Auburn. Like, there are
Speaker 2: countless things you can bring up from that era, like wow,
Speaker 2: that guy you know who? You knew that Florida had
Speaker 2: all these players that ended up in some legal troubles.
Speaker 2: Some of course ended up you know dead, like Aaron Hernandez.
Speaker 2: But to see that they were all there together during
Speaker 2: a time where Florida was rolling and on top of
Speaker 2: the world in football really is crazy. But any any
Speaker 2: you know, the Georgia stuff. Again, not to tact like
Speaker 2: this is normal. To see this many, this many incidents
Speaker 2: from that in that amount of time. It's not normal.
Speaker 2: But I think it's a little much to kind of
Speaker 2: throw out the comparisons of Florida. But I'm getting some
Speaker 2: pushback from from people who claimed and I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: Louisville fans just wanting to, you know, potentially cash in
Speaker 2: on content getting their ass kicked this weekend. But a
Speaker 2: lot of people say that, like their favorite bet this
Speaker 2: weekend is Georgia minus twenty two, which the more I
Speaker 2: think about it, I kind of get it. But then
Speaker 2: I'm also trying to think, Okay, well, like this is
Speaker 2: where the books do well because they're thinking big pick.
Speaker 2: Now again they're wrong as well, Like they're not perfect,
Speaker 2: nobody is. But like if Kentucky lost this game by seventeen,
Speaker 2: but yet they were down twenty four ish for a
Speaker 2: good chunk of it, but yet the nd the final
Speaker 2: score was seventeen. That really isn't a crazy result. But
Speaker 2: because of the recency of what's happened where they get
Speaker 2: killed by South Carolina, who nobody really thinks is good,
Speaker 2: and Georgia is right now looking like not only the
Speaker 2: best team in the country, they look like they may
Speaker 2: be on their own planet. It's like Georgia and then
Speaker 2: everybody else. George's only lost to Alabama in the last
Speaker 2: four years. Guys, I mean, let's keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: So again, I'm not touching that game. But the reason
Speaker 2: that came up is that we had an interesting hypothetical
Speaker 2: question on the text line from somebody who said, Nick,
Speaker 2: if you could only you can only been on one
Speaker 2: game this weekend, and you had to put everything that's
Speaker 2: in the account on the Kentucky game. What do you do?
Speaker 2: And you take in Kentucky minus twenty two or Georgia
Speaker 2: or Kentucky plus twenty two or Georgia minus twenty two.
Speaker 2: And I would take Georgia minus twenty two, but I'm
Speaker 2: still not touching it. I think the best bet in
Speaker 2: that game is the team total for Georgia over thirty
Speaker 2: four and a half. And I'm tailing our man Brian
Speaker 2: Edwards from Vegas Insider on that pick. All right, we've
Speaker 2: got another hour to go. We got a lot of
Speaker 2: time to talk picks, talk about this upcoming weekend give away,
Speaker 2: some tickets to Brooks and done. So we'll finish strong
Speaker 2: here five o'clock on a Friday. That's next right here
Speaker 2: on Sports Talk seven ninety