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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Welcome back to the Ball on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm your host Jay Gonzales. Today, my usual partner,
Speaker 2: Steve Rivera is out today taking care of some family business.
Speaker 2: He's on his way back from New Mexico. He will
Speaker 2: be here tomorrow. I've got Henry here running the board
Speaker 2: as he always does on Mondays. And I've got a
Speaker 2: good friend making his debut as a as a co host,
Speaker 2: our friend Ryan Dunn. He owns a couple of sports businesses.
Speaker 2: I've just learned he's got a second one here in Tucson.
Speaker 2: We've had him on as a guest talking about TGA
Speaker 2: Premier Sports, which does youth programs, after school programs, those
Speaker 2: kinds of things. And now I hear he's bought a
Speaker 2: T shirt company or a uniform company that he's now
Speaker 2: out there ellen uniforms and teachers to to teams around
Speaker 2: around town. So Ryan, welcome, Thank you for doing this.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here. Yeah, thanks so much for
Speaker 2: having me. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fun. Ryan is also a former sports information director
Speaker 2: at at Arizona. So he's got a background in Arizone
Speaker 2: Athletics and he went out and got a real job
Speaker 2: and and has he's has his own businesses. Uh. You
Speaker 2: you also might if you've heard heard us have him
Speaker 2: on the show in the past. He's also married to
Speaker 2: somebody who you probably know better than you know him
Speaker 2: or I, and that's Alisha Halliwell who now goes by
Speaker 2: a Lisiah holliwell done. Former All American Pitcher College World
Speaker 2: Series champion, now the mother of two right, two small ones, yeah,
Speaker 2: two little ones. So Ryan's here, and Ryan's been a
Speaker 2: golf coach. He's a really good golfer. I have golfed
Speaker 2: with him. Makes me sick sometimes, but then I just
Speaker 2: kind of watch and I go, Okay, he's good and
Speaker 2: I can't play like that again. Ryan, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: A lot to talk about. The Olympics are going are
Speaker 2: full on. Uh, there's been a lot of stuff over
Speaker 2: the weekend. I'm having trouble keeping up with it. But
Speaker 2: one thing I didn't have trouble keeping up with was
Speaker 2: watching Chase Buddinger this morning. Uh. For those of you
Speaker 2: who remember Chase, he was here in the mid nineties,
Speaker 2: played towards the tail end of a louto I mean
Speaker 2: nineties two thousands, tail end of lude Olsen's time at Arizona.
Speaker 2: He was a McDonald's All American and I found I
Speaker 2: saw today as they were talking about him. He was
Speaker 2: a mcuh cole McDonald co MVP of the McDonald's All
Speaker 2: America game with Kevin Durant of all people.
Speaker 3: You know, I was thinking about this several weeks back
Speaker 3: when he qualified for the Olympics. But it's unbelievable to me,
Speaker 3: and I don't think people will realize that that guy
Speaker 3: is one of the best in the world in two
Speaker 3: separate sports. Yeah, I mean, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean you talk about your you know
Speaker 2: your I mean, he's not Bo Jackson, he's not Deon Sanders,
Speaker 2: but you're right the best. You know, if you're an
Speaker 2: NBA player and he seven years in the NBA something
Speaker 2: like that, you're you're one of the best in the
Speaker 2: world to ever play the game of basketball. And now
Speaker 2: he's in the Olympics as a beach volleyball player. As
Speaker 2: I recall when he was being recruited, he I think
Speaker 2: he's seriously considered. Maybe I'm confusing him with Judd Buschler,
Speaker 2: but I think he seriously considered playing volleyball instead of basketball.
Speaker 2: Decided to come, you know, I think he felt his
Speaker 2: financial future was better, you know, in basketball. But he
Speaker 2: was an equally good, you know, high school volleyball player
Speaker 2: when he came here. Look, the guy can leap out
Speaker 2: of the building. Incredibly athletic. He's tall, he's got these
Speaker 2: long arms. So I watched his match today. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you saw it, Ryan, but he was dominant.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you get the ball past him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he absolutely was. And I was thinking back to
Speaker 3: his career here at Arizona as far as basketball, and
Speaker 3: if you remember, he was kind of here during some
Speaker 3: some turmoil, some tough times, and it probably could have
Speaker 3: left after his freshman year, and it's kind of stuck
Speaker 3: it out for a few years. So, you know, just
Speaker 3: a really really good athlete.
Speaker 2: Really good athlete, and seemingly a really good guy. You're
Speaker 2: rooting for him, you know, again, watch him play. They
Speaker 2: played France today, so they had they had the crowd
Speaker 2: going against him, and they just dominated him. They beat
Speaker 2: him in two games. And uh and it wasn't it
Speaker 2: wasn't close. And you know, but I mean, look, I
Speaker 2: only watched beach volleyball really during the Olympics. I you know,
Speaker 2: I you know, we've had the women's beach volleyball coaching
Speaker 2: Arizona on the show, but I've had not been out
Speaker 2: to a meet. I've seen him on TV a little bit,
Speaker 2: but you know, I really pay attention to it only
Speaker 2: you know, in the Olympics, and I'm fascinated by the sport.
Speaker 2: You know, there's the whole Maverick and Goose thing from
Speaker 2: Top Gun and you see those guys playing. You're watching
Speaker 2: two people play volleyball. It seems like an extraordinarily hard sport.
Speaker 2: But he made it look so easy today. He was
Speaker 2: just incredible.
Speaker 3: And certainly the link helps, right, I mean six seven
Speaker 3: and long and with twitchy muscles, I mean that obviously
Speaker 3: plays a big factor in his game. Right. Yeah. It
Speaker 3: it just blows my mind that the guy is one
Speaker 3: of the best in the world. Yeah, in two separate sports.
Speaker 2: Well, if there's a better if there's a better beach
Speaker 2: volleyball team in the Olympics, I'm interested to see it
Speaker 2: to see how good they are, because it's not just
Speaker 2: about blocking at the net and all those kinds of things.
Speaker 2: You gotta do a lot of things. But they did
Speaker 2: them all and and those two guys were just really good.
Speaker 2: And it was really fun to watch because I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, they did a profile of him. They showed him,
Speaker 2: you know, coming up through high school, his McDonald's All
Speaker 2: America stuff. Then they showed him in the Arizona uniform
Speaker 2: and then in the Houston Rockets uniform, and now he's
Speaker 2: playing beach volle He's thirty six years old, so he's
Speaker 2: not a spring chicken to be out there competing at
Speaker 2: this level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about it. And you look across the
Speaker 3: board in the Olympics and then it's full of twenty three,
Speaker 3: twenty four year olds, and yeah, it'll be fascinating to
Speaker 3: see how they do in these next matches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's must watch TV. And if you, especially
Speaker 2: if you're from Tucson, you and your follow Arizona basketball,
Speaker 2: you followed him when he was here. You can't help
Speaker 2: a root for him because again, he was one of
Speaker 2: the good guys when he was here. As you said,
Speaker 2: he was here during a very tough time pares on
Speaker 2: a basketball. He stuck with it, got his team to
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen unexpectedly that last year under Russ panel,
Speaker 2: and you know, you just got it. You just got
Speaker 2: to be rooting for me, and it was it was
Speaker 2: fun to watch. I mean, I'm sitting there, I'm just
Speaker 2: waking up, you know, still, you know, rubbing the sleep
Speaker 2: out of my eyes. And a friend of mine texted
Speaker 2: and said, hey, Chase buddingers on in three minutes if
Speaker 2: you're interested. Turned on Peacock and it was on, and
Speaker 2: I just sat there and watched it. Beat all O.
Speaker 2: Matches don't last a long time. You don't have to
Speaker 2: sit there for an hour, right, I mean it was
Speaker 2: over in thirty five forty minutes. It was two quick sets.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm sure it goes to three sets. It
Speaker 2: takes longer, but it was quick. Watched it, got up,
Speaker 2: had my coffee and got my day going. So it
Speaker 2: was great to watch him. So congratulations to Chase. A
Speaker 2: lot of other UFA people that are competing. We saw
Speaker 2: men's basketball yesterday. They they look touchy in the first half.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, Serbia's good. I heard a stat that
Speaker 2: when when uh Nikola Jokic was on the was on
Speaker 2: the court, the teams were about even, but when he
Speaker 2: was off the court, they got outscored by twenty six points.
Speaker 2: And that's how in the United States just has more
Speaker 2: guys than they do.
Speaker 3: Oh, no question that. That's where the United States is
Speaker 3: going to excel in this tournament. It's just the depth
Speaker 3: that they have.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the name Jason Tatum didn't even play play,
Speaker 2: didn't even play, right, I mean, Henry, I mean, what
Speaker 2: do you do with that? Right? I mean, we didn't
Speaker 2: even need him and we and we kicked your ass
Speaker 2: because they because they're being pretty good.
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of people were complaining about
Speaker 3: him not playing.
Speaker 2: But they were yeah, you know. And Kerr answered to that,
Speaker 2: he said, look, he even said I heard the interview,
Speaker 2: said I told him before the game, the way lines
Speaker 2: up with who they're, who they have and who we have,
Speaker 2: he might play out like this, you might not play.
Speaker 2: And he said Tatum handled it very well, and you know,
Speaker 2: he said, look, he'll play in the next game, and
Speaker 2: he will, but you know, again, you know, Katie who
Speaker 2: hadn't even practiced and hadn't played, he didn't play in
Speaker 2: any of the exhibition games, and he goes off. I mean,
Speaker 2: he was incredible in that first half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and talking about the depth, it's not like,
Speaker 3: you know, one through thirteen, you can play every single guy, right,
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty minutes a game. It's right, that's just not
Speaker 3: how it works in the flow of things. So yeah,
Speaker 3: very interested to see how things progress going forward, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure Jason Tatum's going to see his time probably
Speaker 3: in the next round.
Speaker 2: I think Serbia was up like maybe ten early on,
Speaker 2: either in the first quarter or something like that, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you know, I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: you know, what's happening here, and it was kind of
Speaker 2: like relax, everybody, just relax, you know. They took charge.
Speaker 2: Lebron was good, Kad was excellent. Devin Booker came in
Speaker 2: at a time I think they were down, and he
Speaker 2: had a couple of three pointers the first two times
Speaker 2: he touched the ball. He's funny watching Joel Andbi get booed,
Speaker 2: you know, because he's got both France and US citizenships,
Speaker 2: so they're pissed that he went and played for the
Speaker 2: US instead of going to play for Friends, which would
Speaker 2: have been interesting because with with with who they've got
Speaker 2: for him to go over there. But he was essentially
Speaker 2: not wholly effective. But nobody had to be great yesterday,
Speaker 2: even though Kevin Durant was great, nobody had to be
Speaker 2: great for them to win that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. And again I think, you know, you
Speaker 3: look at the roster that the US put together. I
Speaker 3: mean there's just superstars up and down the line up,
Speaker 3: so kind of pick your poison.
Speaker 2: Guess my wife was watching the game with me, just
Speaker 2: you know, was on and yesterday morning, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, just explaining how hard it
Speaker 2: must be for Steve Kerr to coach a team like this,
Speaker 2: right with so many stars, clearly, so many egos, and
Speaker 2: and you know, she was she was like, well, shouldn't
Speaker 2: they just always win this? I said, well, they went
Speaker 2: through a period where they didn't. You know, they came
Speaker 2: out with the Dream Team back in ninety six, I
Speaker 2: think ninety two or ninety six, don't I think it
Speaker 2: was ninety ninety two. The Dream Team comes on ninety two.
Speaker 2: Then they had Dream Team too in ninety six. They
Speaker 2: kicked everybody's ass. Then it kind of got like there
Speaker 2: were a lot of NBA guys who just decided, I
Speaker 2: don't really care about this. They didn't play in at
Speaker 2: a bunch of them. We lost a couple of Olympics,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, everybody got fired up again.
Speaker 2: To now you got these guys who are coming here,
Speaker 2: and I think probably guys like Lebron and those guys
Speaker 2: had a lot to do with saying, look, we're the
Speaker 2: best in the world. Let's go show them that we're
Speaker 2: the best in the world. Plus other teams started getting
Speaker 2: good and it wasn't you know, it wasn't a waste
Speaker 2: of time to go play in the Summer Olympics. So
Speaker 2: it's great to see them get off to a good
Speaker 2: start and we'll see what happens. All right, We've got
Speaker 2: a fun show, I think for you today we're gonna
Speaker 2: start talking some football. We've got a lot of Olympics
Speaker 2: stuff to talk about. We're gonna talk some football today,
Speaker 2: both NFL and the u A. In the first hour
Speaker 2: here coming up in in about ten minutes. We were
Speaker 2: gonna have at Finley. He's a good friend Formerers and
Speaker 2: Daily Star reporter covered airs on a football he's uh,
Speaker 2: he's in Chicago now. He covers the Bears and he's
Speaker 2: the NFL beat writer for the Chicago Sun Times. And
Speaker 2: so we're gonna, uh, we're gonna talk with him about
Speaker 2: not only the Bears, but stuff going on around the league.
Speaker 2: A couple of major, major contracts signed over the weekend
Speaker 2: with some quarterbacks I've got some issues with I think
Speaker 2: both of them. H And so it we'll talk to
Speaker 2: him and see what he says. He's covering the Bear,
Speaker 2: so we'll ask him about Caleb Williams and how's he doing. Uh.
Speaker 2: He had a story on Caleb Williams just this morning
Speaker 2: where he Caleb basically says, I'm ready to go. We'll
Speaker 2: see you know, we'll see you know.
Speaker 3: We both watched a lot of USC obviously being in
Speaker 3: the Pac twelve, and you could see it obviously has
Speaker 3: incredible talent, but there's there's some flaws there that aren't
Speaker 3: gonna work all the time in the NFL. So right,
Speaker 3: I'm really really interested, more than almost anybody I've seen
Speaker 3: come into into the league at the quarterback position, uh,
Speaker 3: to kind of see how exactly how he's going to
Speaker 3: perform exactly.
Speaker 2: And well, people would be watching, right, you're the number
Speaker 2: one pick in the draft. They always watch the number
Speaker 2: one pick in the draft. You always have people rooting
Speaker 2: against guys like that. Look I'm rooting. I'm rooting for him,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, he's not done anything wrong to me.
Speaker 2: He was at USC, he was pretty good. I thought
Speaker 2: I didn't think honestly, didn't think he was the best
Speaker 2: quarterback in the Pac twelve last year. I thought that
Speaker 2: was Michael Pennix. And I've said that a million times
Speaker 2: and the record showed it. I thought he was the better.
Speaker 2: I thought Penis was the better quarterback. And now the obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not an NFL scout, so they obviously thought,
Speaker 2: you know, he's a better guy. The draft of number one,
Speaker 2: Penis went later in the first round. You know, he's
Speaker 2: going to be a backup quarterback this year behind Kirk
Speaker 2: Cousins over in Atlanta. So let's see what happens. But
Speaker 2: I did, like, if you're asking me about pro quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: I did like Michael Pennis better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's no question he was a better
Speaker 3: college quarterback, at least at least last year. Yeah. Leading
Speaker 3: Washington all the way to the title game. And then
Speaker 3: one of Washington's key guys, Roma Doonsdays on the Chicago area,
Speaker 3: right Williams is gonna have a have a chance to, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, do some really special things with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so talk a little bit about that with
Speaker 2: Pat coming up, and then in the in the second hour,
Speaker 2: we've got Greg Hanson joining us. We're on the eve
Speaker 2: of Arizona football starting their camp. There'll be a press
Speaker 2: conference tomorrow with with Brent Brennan. The media is invited
Speaker 2: to come in and have a chat with him. We'll
Speaker 2: have some lunch with him and just kick things around.
Speaker 2: We'll play that press we'll play that press conference on
Speaker 2: the show tomorrow, and then they start practice Wednesday morning.
Speaker 2: Practices are open. They started I believe nine thirty or
Speaker 2: nine forty in the morning. If you want to get
Speaker 2: out there and see and you know, we're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna run through it with Greg. He's been doing some
Speaker 2: stories on some of the Big twelve teams. He had
Speaker 2: a big call him on on Central Florida yesday, which
Speaker 2: is I think one are the mystery teams to us,
Speaker 2: just a team that we don't know much about, right
Speaker 2: We've heard of Kansas State, We've heard of Kansas, We've
Speaker 2: heard of Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Baylor. I don't know
Speaker 2: that we know that much about Central Florida, and I
Speaker 2: don't know that people realize how good they might be.
Speaker 3: And it seems like they're in ils pretty good too, right,
Speaker 3: I mean they're getting players, they're getting high school players
Speaker 3: or getting good players from the state of Florida. Obviously,
Speaker 3: if you can get some pretty good players from the
Speaker 3: state of Florida, you're got a pretty good chance to
Speaker 3: be good.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So we'll we'll kick kick some things around with
Speaker 2: Greg Hanson. Getting ready for Arizona football season to start,
Speaker 2: for at least for practice, fall camp to start this week.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead, take our break. We're going
Speaker 2: to come back. We'll be joined by Pat Finley of
Speaker 2: the Chicago Sun Times, talking Bears, talking NFL, and talking quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: Streaming live I mean iHeartRadio app. This is I on
Speaker 1: the Bar with Steve Rabera and Jacinzalez on Fox Sports.
Speaker 2: Forty Welcome back time on the ball. Here I fought
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host for the day. Ja Gonzalez,
Speaker 2: my partner Steve is out today he'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I've got Henry running the board, and we've got Ryan Dunn,
Speaker 2: former Arizona sid also owns a couple of sports businesses
Speaker 2: here in town. And on the phone, we've got the
Speaker 2: one and only Pat Finley joining us. Pat out there
Speaker 2: covering the Bears, and you've got all kinds of stuff
Speaker 2: going on. Pat. How you doing.
Speaker 12: I'm doing good. How about you, guys?
Speaker 2: We're good. We're good. It's hot as hell, but we're good.
Speaker 2: I golfed on Saturday afternoon, which by about the twelfth hole,
Speaker 2: I started thinking it was a big mistake, but I
Speaker 2: grinded through it, and you know, and I got myself home,
Speaker 2: so I did.
Speaker 12: Okay, I think it rained.
Speaker 13: I think it ran maybe three inches today here. So yeah,
Speaker 13: so we all have our problems there, Jay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Pat covering the Chicago Bears that you have
Speaker 2: in for a bunch of years, also covering the NFL overall.
Speaker 2: But let's first go to the Bears, because both Ryan
Speaker 2: and I were talking about Caleb Williams is kind of
Speaker 2: like almost the story of the year, at least going
Speaker 2: into the season in terms of everybody wanted to see.
Speaker 2: He's wanting to see what's gonna happen? So I want
Speaker 2: to go there first. You did it, You wrote a
Speaker 2: story about him this morning. Just give us the lowdown
Speaker 2: on how does he look? What do you think?
Speaker 13: So far, so good? He's got it whatever it is,
Speaker 13: and if you can find it on a backfield at practice,
Speaker 13: I think we've seen it. He's just so comfortable as
Speaker 13: in being himself, and he's also comfortable playing quarterback in
Speaker 13: a way that Justin Fields never really was. You know,
Speaker 13: we talked about this last year, maybe the last couple
Speaker 13: of years, where Justin was this tremendous athlete who just
Speaker 13: really didn't have a great feel for the position. He
Speaker 13: might be the best running quarterback in football, but you know,
Speaker 13: when you needed third and seven and you needed to
Speaker 13: complete the pass, he just kind of wasn't your guy.
Speaker 13: I think Caleb can be. You know, he just looks
Speaker 13: like he knows how to play the position. And that
Speaker 13: is a very basic thing. But that is very different.
Speaker 13: If you have a Chicago Bears uniform.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, right, I mean, you know you
Speaker 2: can you can go get these guys and then they
Speaker 2: show up and they start, you know, working with against
Speaker 2: NFL athletes and it's a whole different game for them,
Speaker 2: and you don't know, like I'm going to say it,
Speaker 2: and I said it, you know, before he came on,
Speaker 2: I thought Michael Penix was a better college quarterback. I
Speaker 2: thought he was a better quarterback last year. I didn't
Speaker 2: think Caleb Williams was the best quarterback in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2: You know, but obviously, you know, again, I'm not an
Speaker 2: NFL scout. They drafted him because they he's apparently what
Speaker 2: they need. What you said, he looks comfortable running the position.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 13: That means that he can make his progressions quickly and
Speaker 13: on time. It means that when he takes off outside
Speaker 13: the pocket, he looks downfield and looks for receivers instead
Speaker 13: of looking to run, which is what Justin did you know,
Speaker 13: unprompted his offensive coordinator today said, you know, when he's
Speaker 13: on the run, you know, and he looks and he
Speaker 13: throws deep. I don't think he's thrown an interception yet.
Speaker 13: I mean it's practice, but that's still something. And he
Speaker 13: also carries himself in a way that I think he's
Speaker 13: a pretty natural leader, which you know, when you're twenty two,
Speaker 13: twenty three years old, you know, you don't think of
Speaker 13: a rookie quarterback as a leader, but boy, he's got
Speaker 13: to run the show here and he's got to have
Speaker 13: the respect of those around him.
Speaker 12: You know, I've told you this day.
Speaker 13: I think I told you this right after they drafted him. Boy,
Speaker 13: he is more comfortable being himself than I think I
Speaker 13: am being myself. But I'm twice as old as he is.
Speaker 13: He is just really, really really comfortable in his own skin.
Speaker 13: And I think that that translates, you know, at a
Speaker 13: player today. Tell me, you know, NFL guys have a
Speaker 13: really good BF detector, and he was being anything other
Speaker 13: than other than himself, they would have let him know
Speaker 13: by now right, And he's not. And yeah, I think
Speaker 13: it's shaping up to be a pretty good fit for him,
Speaker 13: and definitely for the Bears, who you know, haven't had
Speaker 13: a good quarterback in one hundred and four years.
Speaker 3: Paton. With a rookie quarterback, obviously you need weapons around him, obviously.
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen in the in the Fold and Roma Dunes,
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift. How do you see those skill positions playing out,
Speaker 3: especially at the running back position with Khalil Herbert, DeAndre
Speaker 3: Swift and some others there.
Speaker 13: Boy, you know they put him in a really good position.
Speaker 13: Justin field would probably have killed to have had this
Speaker 13: when he was a rookie. But you know you've got
Speaker 13: DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Roma Dunde, who was the number
Speaker 13: nine pick and one of the Bear's three favorite prospects
Speaker 13: at any position. So you know they're thrilled. They you know,
Speaker 13: they think they got the number one and the number
Speaker 13: three prospects in the whole draft. That's good. But running back,
Speaker 13: I mean, it's an old trope that Caleb's best friend
Speaker 13: is going to be a good run game, and you
Speaker 13: know they went out in time. DeAndre Swift. I think
Speaker 13: if history is any indication with offensive coordinator Shane Waldron,
Speaker 13: I think he'll get maybe sixty sixty five percent of
Speaker 13: the carries and then you know the other thirty percent
Speaker 13: or so is going to be something between Roshawn Johnson
Speaker 13: and Khalil Herbert. I think Herbert is the home run
Speaker 13: hitter in the group, and I think Roshan is the
Speaker 13: pass blocker, and they're down back in the group. So yeah,
Speaker 13: that's a pretty good, pretty good running back room. And
Speaker 13: you know, I haven't even brought up Cole Commett, who
Speaker 13: I think had the eighth most receiving yards among tight
Speaker 13: ends in the NFL last year, which is pretty impressive.
Speaker 13: He didn't really have much of a quarterback. And Gerald Everett,
Speaker 13: you know, the old Ramps tight end, comes in to
Speaker 13: be the number two. That's a pretty good number two
Speaker 13: tight end. So I mean I just listed eight weapons
Speaker 13: that might be six more weapons than Bears teams we.
Speaker 12: Used to have.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Pat Finley, Bears beat riding for the
Speaker 2: Chicago Sun Times, four Mayriors on a Daily Star guy.
Speaker 2: So that's the connection. Pat. We want to make sure
Speaker 2: that they know that we we love you and we've
Speaker 2: loved you for a long time. Hey, so does that
Speaker 2: make you got the You've got the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: game on Thursday, they're taking on the Texans, Right, yeah?
Speaker 2: Does that mean you know, is that kind of let's
Speaker 2: must see TV to see what's going going on over there?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is kind of perfect, right, this is
Speaker 2: the guy everybody's talking about. They've got this first game,
Speaker 2: all the attentions on them. How you know, how much
Speaker 2: do you think we might see and what can we
Speaker 2: deduce from anything that we see?
Speaker 13: What do you feel about Tyson Bagen. How's that striking
Speaker 13: because I think that's what's going to happen here. I
Speaker 13: think the backup quarterback is going to start the game.
Speaker 13: Has the Bears say that, they'll make an announcements more
Speaker 13: about what their plans are. Okay, I don't think Caleb
Speaker 13: is going to play. I'm sure the NFL. I'm sure
Speaker 13: the NFL would love him to, and I'm sure ESPN
Speaker 13: is leading on the Bears to do that. But you know,
Speaker 13: here's why. It's been nine years since the starting quarterback
Speaker 13: has played in the Hall of Fame game. I went
Speaker 13: through the last five years worth the Hall of Fame games,
Speaker 13: and then each year a starting quarterback in that game
Speaker 13: was cut by his team before the end of the month.
Speaker 13: So this is not a place where you trot out
Speaker 13: your best players. You know, keep in mind too, if
Speaker 13: you're playing this Hall of Fame game, it means you've
Speaker 13: ben given one extra preseason game by the NFL. So
Speaker 13: you know, the Bears could look at it and say, now,
Speaker 13: that's just one more chance for kileb to get hurt.
Speaker 13: We'll sit him here, you know, give him twenty twenty
Speaker 13: five snaps in the second game. You know they have
Speaker 13: a joint practice against the Bengals the week after that,
Speaker 13: you know they'll give them a bunch of works there.
Speaker 13: They said that they want him to get forty five
Speaker 13: to sixty five snaps this off season to feel comfortable
Speaker 13: in game action. I wouldn't be surprised if they counted
Speaker 13: a joint practice against the Bengals as some of those snaps. Okay,
Speaker 13: you know, I may be wrong, but everything that I've
Speaker 13: seen and everything I've been told this pointing toward the
Speaker 13: Bears playing a lot of backup players on thirst.
Speaker 2: Well not Bump, because I was going to put some
Speaker 2: money on it. Right, Come on, man, I.
Speaker 13: Tend your name of their fifth string running back and
Speaker 13: put some money on that anytime.
Speaker 2: That's just yeah, I know that's sick, but what are
Speaker 2: you going to do?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: There are two big quarterback signings or extensions signed over
Speaker 2: the weekend, Jordan Love and two tongue by Law take
Speaker 2: which other. Let's talk about Jordan Love because that's the
Speaker 2: one that I'm like, what you know, is he the
Speaker 2: Who's what?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: That third highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Should he be?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 13: But the way this works lately is that whoever signs
Speaker 13: the most recent contract is the richest guy. You know,
Speaker 13: the market is going up by the day here and
Speaker 13: because of that, you've got guys like Josh Allen, who
Speaker 13: I think is like number ten now in the list
Speaker 13: of highest paid quarterback and he's certainly not the tenth
Speaker 13: best quarterback in the league. Is probably closer to four.
Speaker 13: So are they worth it? No, But that's what the
Speaker 13: market says, both with Jordan and with Tua. I ask
Speaker 13: you this because I don't know the answer to myself.
Speaker 13: Are they good?
Speaker 14: Like?
Speaker 13: Are they good? Are we sure? You know, Jordan Love
Speaker 13: had a great second half of last season, and you know,
Speaker 13: and you can certainly see it there. Who was Okay?
Speaker 13: You know, I don't know that that I would bank
Speaker 13: on either of these guys being a top ten quoiquarterback
Speaker 13: three years from now. I just don't know whether I would.
Speaker 13: But you know the fact is if you want to
Speaker 13: keep them, you got to pay him, and you got
Speaker 13: to pay him that sort of money, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean going back to two. I mean you
Speaker 3: have those injury concerns too, and not to mention all
Speaker 3: the weapons, I mean he has tons of weapons. Those
Speaker 3: those guys aren't always going to be there for the
Speaker 3: for the years to come. So yeah, there's definitely some
Speaker 3: question and you can't.
Speaker 13: Afford him, and I mean, and that's what you know.
Speaker 13: To me, that's the most important thing here is you know,
Speaker 13: the Packers have done this with a bunch of no
Speaker 13: name wide receivers and you know, in that sense, paying
Speaker 13: pay Jordan Love fifty million dollars isn't going to change
Speaker 13: the planning here. But at some point those guys are
Speaker 13: going to need a new contracts when they get to
Speaker 13: the end of their four year deal, and then the
Speaker 13: Packers may be a little handstrung there. I mean, you know,
Speaker 13: in the NFL, this has gotten talked about ever since
Speaker 13: Russell Wilson went to the Super Bowl and back to
Speaker 13: back years for the Seahawks. But you know, really the
Speaker 13: cheap code in the NFL is if you can get
Speaker 13: a good quarterback on a rookie deal and then you
Speaker 13: can pay the people around him, you can you know,
Speaker 13: you can trade for Keenan Allen and give him twenty
Speaker 13: and a half million dollars the year because the Chargers
Speaker 13: couldn't afford it. You know, you could give Dj Moore
Speaker 13: an extension, which I think that Bears may do between
Speaker 13: now and the start of the season. You can go
Speaker 13: get you know, DeAndre Swift as a free agent. I mean,
Speaker 13: that's a luxury thing that a lot of teams, you know,
Speaker 13: don't have the money to do. You know, if you're
Speaker 13: convinced that your rookie quarterbacks good, you can gould the
Speaker 13: hell of a team around him. But you know, at
Speaker 13: some point you're gonna have to pay that guy, and
Speaker 13: when you do, you better carry the team on the Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, So I mean and you're looking at I
Speaker 2: mean like I see, you know, the other guys that
Speaker 2: are getting paid, and they should be getting paid. They've
Speaker 2: proven it, you know, Joe Burrow has been you know,
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl justin Herbert. He's looked really good,
Speaker 2: you know, And I get it. You know, there's only
Speaker 2: thirty two starting quarterbacks and they're the best, the allegedly
Speaker 2: the thirty two best quarterbacks on the planet. But man,
Speaker 2: I just you know, you just I feel like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what these these owners can't wait for somebody
Speaker 2: to prove themselves before they give him that money. I mean,
Speaker 2: is Jordan Love going to go somewhere else if he gets.
Speaker 2: If they're only giving forty nine million, I mean, what's
Speaker 2: going to happen? And that's what that's what, that's where
Speaker 2: my brain goes, being that I'm not the guy making
Speaker 2: the fifty million dollars.
Speaker 13: Well, well, if we can sit here and praise the
Speaker 13: Packers all day for being patient with Jordan Love and
Speaker 13: letting him grow behind Aaron Rodgers and letting him develop
Speaker 13: before he ever had to play a snap. But one
Speaker 13: of the reasons nobody does that anymore is because if
Speaker 13: he's good right away, then you've got to pay him
Speaker 13: because it's been five years since you drafted him in
Speaker 13: this contract, right, So that's I mean, that's another point,
Speaker 13: you know, in the favor of you know, if you
Speaker 13: draft a quarterbacks, you should probably play him right away
Speaker 13: because you know, the clock's kicking and he's only getting
Speaker 13: more expensive as every year goes by.
Speaker 2: Which you're surprising about the Falcons drafting Michael Pennix.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, and boy, I still don't you know, I've
Speaker 13: asked a lot of people around the Bears because the
Speaker 13: Bears was picking right after that, and that's how they
Speaker 13: wanne up for the doom thing, Like, hey, what in
Speaker 13: the world were they doing, and nobody knows. I mean,
Speaker 13: I've yet to hear a good explanation and for why
Speaker 13: they did that, especially when you look at Tennis's age.
Speaker 13: You know, I agree with you. I think Pennis had
Speaker 13: a better season last year than Caleb Williams did. But
Speaker 13: Pennix was also probably, what's four years older than he is.
Speaker 13: You know, that age really works against you typically in
Speaker 13: an NFL draft. Of course it didn't in this case.
Speaker 13: Going number eight overall was a shocker to most in
Speaker 13: football and definitely everybody outside of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat, Going back to the Bears the running back room,
Speaker 3: we talked about DeAndre Swift. Now, is Khalil Herbert a
Speaker 3: guy that could be on the trade block here soon?
Speaker 13: I don't think so. You know, I wondered that, you know,
Speaker 13: during the first couple of days of practice, you know,
Speaker 13: you're sitting around talking to people, and I just think
Speaker 13: that having three functional running backs is you know, not
Speaker 13: unusual in this in you know, this NFL is actually
Speaker 13: kind of what a lot of teams strive to do.
Speaker 13: He's entering the final year of his contract, so you know,
Speaker 13: you could sit there if somebody wants to throw a
Speaker 13: four at the Bears. Maybe they think of it, but
Speaker 13: I think about it.
Speaker 12: But you know, if I.
Speaker 13: Were them, and you know the Bears are in this
Speaker 13: position where they're trying to win now for the first
Speaker 13: time since twenty nineteen, I would keep Khalil Herbert, let
Speaker 13: him be your home run hitter, and figure that you know,
Speaker 13: you're running back is probably you know, this was probably
Speaker 13: going to get hurt at some point during the season
Speaker 13: and you'll need some backups there. It's just kind of
Speaker 13: the way it's been going in the NFL. I think
Speaker 13: Herbert is really dangerous. I you know, I think a
Speaker 13: lot of teams would consider him a good kick returner,
Speaker 13: but the Bears aren't going to do that. But man,
Speaker 13: if you want a thirty yard run, you know, there
Speaker 13: was a time, what was it two years ago? I
Speaker 13: think he led all running backs in the yards per carry.
Speaker 13: Like that's a pretty impressive stat for somebody.
Speaker 2: You're sharing time talking to Pat Finley, the Bears beat
Speaker 2: writer for the Chicago Sun Times of what's their ceiling
Speaker 2: and what's their what's their floor? Where you know, where
Speaker 2: are they going to fall? Any ideas have you thought
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 13: Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 13: I think there's probably somewhere between seven and ten and
Speaker 13: ten and seven. You know, I know people who think
Speaker 13: that they can do better than that, but I really
Speaker 13: have to see it, you know, Jay is you know,
Speaker 13: as you know, Jay, I'm a little I'm a little jaded.
Speaker 13: After covering this team for the last eleven seasons. I've
Speaker 13: yet to see a playoff win. And they've played two
Speaker 13: playoff games in my time here. The first one ended
Speaker 13: on a double doint by the kicker, Cody Parky, and
Speaker 13: the other was at the Superdome during COVID when nobody
Speaker 13: was allowed there. So not a whole lot of recent
Speaker 13: success here. But you know, you know, the upshot is
Speaker 13: they've got a defense that they think is top five,
Speaker 13: top ten somewhere in there. They have a quarterback in
Speaker 13: Killer Williams who I think is going to get better
Speaker 13: with each week. And the great thing is because they've
Speaker 13: surrounded him with some pretty good offensive players, he can
Speaker 13: kind of play point guard and just get the ball
Speaker 13: in their hands and hope for good things to happen.
Speaker 13: You know, Caleb doesn't have to play a minus game
Speaker 13: for the Bears to win. That is really different than
Speaker 13: everything they had around Justin Fields, where Justin Field had
Speaker 13: to be a B plus a minus quarterback for the
Speaker 13: Bears to even be in the game. The roster was
Speaker 13: that surrounding him. Now there's a lot more with a
Speaker 13: room for him. I think, you know, I think they're
Speaker 13: playing a great in the NSC North. I think that's
Speaker 13: probably the best division in football. And you know, if
Speaker 13: you're gonna beat the Lions, Vikings, and Packers regularly, you
Speaker 13: better put together a pretty complete football game.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, suddenly the Lions are really damn good. Right Yeah.
Speaker 13: I spent my whole life presuming the Lions we're gonna
Speaker 13: stick at every turn. Jay, you may, you may relate
Speaker 13: this a little bit, you know, growing up a Padre fans,
Speaker 13: you know, I always thought that the Giants would be
Speaker 13: five games better than everybody thought because they were always
Speaker 13: so well run. And I always thought the Dodgers would
Speaker 13: be five games worse because they, at least until Andrew Freeman,
Speaker 13: were always a little overrated. I kind of feel that
Speaker 13: way about the Packers and the Lions still. You know,
Speaker 13: with the Lions, I'll believe it when I see it,
Speaker 13: And you know, I always think the Packers end up
Speaker 13: being a little bit better than everybody's sounds great.
Speaker 2: All right, Pat, We're gonna let you go back to work.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you taking the time with us, and we'll
Speaker 2: get back with you a little later, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: once the season gets going. Because I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a fun season. I think it's'n be really interesting.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: I know the usual suspects are going to be up there,
Speaker 2: but I think there's some teams out there that that
Speaker 2: are going to surprise a few people.
Speaker 12: Hard knocked.
Speaker 13: Chicago Bears starts in eight days. If if there needs
Speaker 13: to be any more of a hype train going, they're
Speaker 13: going to be on HBO for five weeks starting next week.
Speaker 12: You got you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna get any airtime from that?
Speaker 14: Oh?
Speaker 13: I hope not, but probably I'll probably be in the
Speaker 13: background at some point.
Speaker 2: Okay, Pat, Hey, thanks a bunch. Again. We appreciated have
Speaker 2: fun this, have fun this fall.
Speaker 13: Thank you guys.
Speaker 3: Thanks Pat.
Speaker 2: That was Pat Finley from the Chicago Sun Times. He's
Speaker 2: a fun dude, and uh, you're good, but a lot
Speaker 2: of good insight. I'm sitting here thinking, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put some money on the Bears to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: You know what kind of odds can I get them?
Speaker 2: You know he I mean, he really late laid it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the interesting thing that he said
Speaker 3: was Caleb Williams doesn't have to play a a game,
Speaker 3: right And I think the same thing with the Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: Steelers with Wilson justin fields, you know, with their defense. Yeah,
Speaker 3: those guys don't have to be a four hundred yard
Speaker 3: a game right yard per game passers. They just have
Speaker 3: to control the game and not turn the ball over.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It just be smart with the ball
Speaker 2: and not do not do dumb things that put you
Speaker 2: in a bad spot. Okay, we're gonna take our breakword
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Speaker 2: Give us a call. Five two zero, four one, six
Speaker 2: seventy four forty. We just had Pat Finley on so
Speaker 2: in Chicago Sun Times talking about the Bears, but also
Speaker 2: things going on around the NFL. We were talking about quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and we kept talking about him during the break. And
Speaker 2: I'm still don't see it, Ryan, I still don't see
Speaker 2: how you're giving Jordan Love fifty million dollars. How you're
Speaker 2: giving to a tongue of I low fifty million dollars
Speaker 2: when he might play eight or nine games. I don't
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And again I think we talked about it during
Speaker 3: the break that you have to make that decision if
Speaker 3: you're a front office is is this guy better than
Speaker 3: anybody that's going to be a free agent coming up
Speaker 3: in the near future. Is this guy better than anybody
Speaker 3: that we see in college football that we have a
Speaker 3: chance to get. And if the answer is yes, I
Speaker 3: guess you have to pay them.
Speaker 2: I guess you do. I mean, I guess again. We
Speaker 2: said that there's only so many quarterbacks, you know, NFL
Speaker 2: worthy starting quarterbacks on the planet, and if you get one,
Speaker 2: you think you have one, then you got to pay
Speaker 2: him and that's the market. But I just don't know
Speaker 2: that Jordan Love has done enough to get to Aren't
Speaker 2: that kind of that kind of a contract?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Does this put pressure on him? And does it make
Speaker 2: it harder or does it make it easier because he
Speaker 2: just relaxes and plays and says, Okay, I got my deal.
Speaker 2: I just got to go out and play. You know,
Speaker 2: how do you know? How do different people take that?
Speaker 2: I mean Joe Burrow, who's currently the highest paid quarterback
Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's earned it, right. He looks like
Speaker 2: a long term quarterback. Yes he had he had the
Speaker 2: knee injury, but he's gotten his team to do the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. He's done things, and he looks like he
Speaker 2: can do these things for a long time. He's a
Speaker 2: I don't know how good he'll be, but he's a
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady longevity kind of guy is what
Speaker 2: you see in him. I see Jordan Love and to
Speaker 2: both guys that they could be out of the league
Speaker 2: in three years. Oh yeah, because they're just not good
Speaker 2: enough where they get passed by somebody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. I mean it could go either way
Speaker 3: with either guy, right, I mean, you saw some really
Speaker 3: good things out of Jordan Love right at the last
Speaker 3: half of the season. H Tua obvious he saw some
Speaker 3: really good things. But he has so many weapons around him,
Speaker 3: and I think, as Pat Finley said just a little
Speaker 3: while ago, you're not gonna be able to hold onto
Speaker 3: all those receivers because you're gonna eventually gonna have to
Speaker 3: pay them too. So they're just not gonna be able
Speaker 3: to afford all those guys. So it'll be very interesting
Speaker 3: to see those those guys here in the next few years.
Speaker 2: How big of an NFL fan?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Are you a huge NFL fan?
Speaker 12: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, pretty big. What are you looking forward to this
Speaker 2: NFL season? What you know? What do you want to see?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm one of the few Jacksonville Jaguars fans out there.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's anybody else's son that the
Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars fan.
Speaker 2: Tell me why?
Speaker 3: I was born in Jacksonville, so that's part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: ever since they announced the team, ever since they had
Speaker 3: the team, I was a Jaguars fan.
Speaker 2: Do you like have gear and stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Been to some games I have, Okay, I have all Right, Well,
Speaker 2: what do you think of them? You know?
Speaker 3: And Trevor Lawrence is another one, right, I mean, he
Speaker 3: just got a huge contract, and I would say he's
Speaker 3: probably better than the love to a tongue of Iiloa.
Speaker 3: I mean, because he has done some things. He got
Speaker 3: them to the to the AFC Championship. Is he a
Speaker 3: top five, top ten quarterback? I don't know that you
Speaker 3: could say that right now, but he does show some things.
Speaker 3: They put some weapons around him, so you know, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to the Jaguars. I think they're
Speaker 3: gonna have a better year. They really got unlucky by
Speaker 3: the injury bug last year. They played the Bengals on
Speaker 3: a on a Thursday night and they lost three or
Speaker 3: four starters in that game, really key players, and they
Speaker 3: just they were never the same the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever known a Jags fan.
Speaker 2: It's it's entire I don't think I have Henry shaking
Speaker 2: his head like, no way.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever met one here in Tucson.
Speaker 2: They're few and far between, all right, So aside from
Speaker 2: the Jaguars, I mean, you know, are we gonna are
Speaker 2: we just gonna watch the Chiefs and the forty nine ers,
Speaker 2: you know, run the table, not run the table undefeated.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, is that who we're looking
Speaker 2: at again? You know what's gonna happen with brock Purty? Right,
Speaker 2: there's another guy, really good quarterback. He's got him to
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, got him doing you know, he's done
Speaker 2: really well. Is he a fifty million dollar quarterback?
Speaker 3: That's a good to me? And almost nobody's a fifty
Speaker 3: million dollars Well okay, but you know Patrick Mahomes, sure,
Speaker 3: you know, Joe Burrow, sure yeah, Josh Allen, I guess yes,
Speaker 3: justin Herbert. But you know, the Niners did a really
Speaker 3: good job in the draft of putting some more pieces
Speaker 3: around brock party. I mean, they got a couple receivers
Speaker 3: that look to be guys that are going to contribute
Speaker 3: right away.
Speaker 2: And when you've got a Christian McCaffrey in your back
Speaker 2: in your backfield, I mean we don't go to call.
Speaker 2: It's hard. All right, let's take this call.
Speaker 9: Hi.
Speaker 2: You're on the air and I on the ball.
Speaker 12: Hey Jay, how you doing?
Speaker 2: What's up? Powered what's going on?
Speaker 12: I had to call you? Uh, do you need to
Speaker 12: have a cap?
Speaker 14: I heard somebody mention a cap for the NFL quarterbacks
Speaker 14: And what do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Who's gonna put up with that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 14: Well, they could do it put performance bonus. I know
Speaker 14: the players Association want, but they got to they have
Speaker 14: to get their full money, whatever the contract is. They
Speaker 14: got to do the whole season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, I don't know that anybody. I mean, you've
Speaker 2: got a salary cap for salaries as a whole, and
Speaker 2: even that was hard to get, you know, way back
Speaker 2: way back when. So I don't know that you're ever
Speaker 2: going to cap you know, individual salaries for by positions
Speaker 2: or anything like that. That's something that the teams themselves
Speaker 2: have to do, but they're not going to. You know,
Speaker 2: we've seen that. We've seen at all levels, at the
Speaker 2: college level, nobody's capping coaches salaries, nobody's capping you know,
Speaker 2: player salaries in the NFL. And if the market is
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars and if a guy can get it,
Speaker 2: you know, more power to them. I guess I'm not
Speaker 2: criticizing those two guys forgetting that money. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: what are you guys doing? You know what you know,
Speaker 2: if you're an NFL owner and you give fifty million
Speaker 2: dollars shit, that means you're not right. As Ryan said,
Speaker 2: you're not getting the receivers or the running backs sort
Speaker 2: of the right. They can't have to do it.
Speaker 14: They're not getting evernybody. There's no multi twenty million receivers.
Speaker 14: But the real reason I called was last night, I
Speaker 14: bring my kid to the graveyard ship at ten thirty.
Speaker 14: And you know Arnie Spaniard, he just goes hyperbole and
Speaker 14: hot takes about the U his Wildcats.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that, you hear, no, no, what he's saying.
Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, he went off last night thing. Oh boy,
Speaker 12: there they're.
Speaker 14: They're going to a lesser conference because no UFC UCLA.
Speaker 14: They're gonna run rough shot over the big twelve and
Speaker 14: and and and the U of A Wildcats quarterbacks the
Speaker 14: third best in the country.
Speaker 13: It was crazy, he.
Speaker 12: Was so he made you look like a non fan. Wow, funny,
Speaker 12: I just saw that you.
Speaker 14: I was like, oh my.
Speaker 2: Gosh, that's pretty funny. Well arguably, okay, the best team
Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve was Oregon and not USC or
Speaker 2: or Utah, so at least the best program as of now.
Speaker 2: So I think it was kind of a fair deal,
Speaker 2: you know, the the Yeah, Washington's really good, but how
Speaker 2: good are they going to be this year? I think,
Speaker 2: you know, if you talk about the the the ten
Speaker 2: teams that left, I think in order you go probably Oregon, Utah,
Speaker 2: maybe Washington, maybe USC and then Arizona. So that's the
Speaker 2: way I see it, So I Utah and you will
Speaker 2: be very good.
Speaker 14: But they they forgot the elephant and they should have
Speaker 14: introduced the ambiguity. But on the flip side, the basketball
Speaker 14: program is one of.
Speaker 2: The best the leagues, and that's gonna be the U of.
Speaker 12: A is not gonna be in the top bunch.
Speaker 2: Right, that's gonna be fun though, that's gonna.
Speaker 12: It's gonna be great. And she would say, too, all right,
Speaker 12: you can have a good one.
Speaker 2: Thanks a bunch for cal appreciate it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that's how I see it, right, I think you know
Speaker 2: the way that the way the team's divvied up, I
Speaker 2: think both the Big Ten and the Big Twelve got
Speaker 2: kind of equal, you know, equal teams. And then when
Speaker 2: you talk about let's go to basketball, clearly you know
Speaker 2: the the Big Twelve they've got they got Arizona, I
Speaker 2: know the Big Ten got U c.
Speaker 14: L A.
Speaker 2: You know Oregon. They're good sometimes good, not good other times.
Speaker 2: So I think both both conferences are happy with who
Speaker 2: they got in the in their in those leagues.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I I'm really interested to see Utah football. Right.
Speaker 3: Obviously pick to win the league by the media, Well,
Speaker 3: that's all as has to be. He has to be
Speaker 3: back himself, right. If he's not, then I don't see it.
Speaker 2: Well, the's two things. One one he's got to be
Speaker 2: healthy for the whole year, and then two he's got
Speaker 2: to be good. He hasn't played a lot in the
Speaker 2: last two years, so you know, Yeah, I mean they're
Speaker 2: they're they're they're kind of a mystery team. You expect
Speaker 2: them to be really good. But it all presumes that
Speaker 2: cam Rising is good and is there the whole year.
Speaker 3: And they lost a lot of players. They lost a
Speaker 3: lot of players to the portal, they lost a lot
Speaker 3: of players to the draft, so they really had had
Speaker 3: to reload. So it's gonna be a really interesting team
Speaker 3: to watch.
Speaker 2: Well, so much of what people think of Utah's about
Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham, and you know, this is twenty years now
Speaker 2: that he's been there, or this is his twentieth year
Speaker 2: something like that. I mean, that's kind of unheard of
Speaker 2: and in college football. So you know, that stability I
Speaker 2: think counts for a lot, at least among people who
Speaker 2: think about the programs. But again, we you know, we
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, they came to Tucson and Arizon
Speaker 2: just kicked the crap out of them. And I get,
Speaker 2: I know they didn't have Cam Rising and guys were
Speaker 2: missing and stuff, but Arizona didn't just barely beat.
Speaker 3: Them, no hell, And it was from the very very
Speaker 3: beginning of that game.
Speaker 2: They beat the hell out of them. Now, that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a fun game when they meet. It's Arizona's fourth
Speaker 2: gime of the season and it's at Utah. They're going
Speaker 2: to want some for sure. Uh, And that that's gonna
Speaker 2: be fun. And that's gonna tell us a lot about
Speaker 2: the two teams. But you know, if if I'm taking quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: I'm taking no. A Fefeedo over Cam Rising for no
Speaker 2: other reason than the injury issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've seen guys come back from injuries and
Speaker 3: be successful, but we've also seen guys that just aren't
Speaker 3: quite the same after taking a year off or a
Speaker 3: year plus off. And remember he didn't play.
Speaker 2: At all last year night at all, never got on
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it never got tough thing to come back from.
Speaker 2: It really is. So but you know that's gonna be
Speaker 2: I I'm ready. I'm ready for the football season to
Speaker 2: get going, you know. I mean, we'll go to practice.
Speaker 2: Practices are in the morning for those of you who
Speaker 2: do want to go to Arizona for practices until they
Speaker 2: start school. They're practicing at nine o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: trying to avoid the heat as much as they can.
Speaker 2: It'd be interesting to see how Brent Brandon runs these practices,
Speaker 2: because under under Jed Fish, they would practice some in
Speaker 2: the indoor facility, then they practice some outdoors on the grass.
Speaker 2: They would do a little bit of both. I don't
Speaker 2: know how they'll do it. It would be interesting to
Speaker 2: see how the practice is run. Jed Fish was running
Speaker 2: the offense, so he's out on the field and he's
Speaker 2: making changes and talking to quarterbacks and stuff. Brent Brannan
Speaker 2: is more of the He's got a defensive coordinator and
Speaker 2: in Dwayne A. Keeney's got an offensive coordinator in a
Speaker 2: Dino Babers, they're going to coach and so it'll be
Speaker 2: you know, I remember watching Dick Tomy coach and I
Speaker 2: don't know if you were around at that time, Ryan,
Speaker 2: but during a football practice, Dick just walked around right now,
Speaker 2: certain things happen and he'd get into the middle of
Speaker 2: it and so but he was letting his coach's coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think going back to your point, you know,
Speaker 3: we kind of know what Dwayne A. Keene is about
Speaker 3: on defense, but Dino Babers, you know, he hasn't called
Speaker 3: a play and yeah, by some time as an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 3: So what is that going to look like?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And I have a feeling we're going to see a
Speaker 3: lot of some of the same stuff that they ran
Speaker 3: last year. That know, if a FIDA was successful at right,
Speaker 3: there's just no reason to change that, right.
Speaker 2: There isn't and that and that's what you look for
Speaker 2: in a coach, and that's what you hope Brent Brandon
Speaker 2: will will ask for You know, again, we've seen what
Speaker 2: happens when you try and force your style as a
Speaker 2: coach onto a player and that's not what the player does.
Speaker 2: Kalil take.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say we've seen that here
Speaker 3: and it didn't work.
Speaker 2: And Reckwood could have been maybe the best quarterback in
Speaker 2: Arizona history. Turned out he wasn't for a lot of reasons,
Speaker 2: not just about the coaching, about Colilt as well. Right,
Speaker 2: you know, he wasn't He wasn't perfect either, But you know,
Speaker 2: it sounds to me from what the conversations we've had
Speaker 2: with Brent Brannan, and you know, whether it's been in
Speaker 2: press conferences or you watched the interviews we had him
Speaker 2: on the show, it sounds like he's gonna they're building
Speaker 2: their their system around what the guys can do, as
Speaker 2: opposed to having a system and making the players fit
Speaker 2: into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're always gonna have new wrinkles, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: Dino Baber's is going to run some stuff that the
Speaker 3: Arizona has has not run, Brandon hasn't run before exactly.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna see a little different style than we
Speaker 3: did last year. But I do think We're going to
Speaker 3: see a lot of the same same kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And I think the run game is going to be
Speaker 3: really really important this year. I mean they have to
Speaker 3: keep no I A feeda healthy. I mean, there's no
Speaker 3: question they he has to be healthy, right, he has
Speaker 3: to be healthy.
Speaker 2: And he as we've talked about with other quarterbacks, he
Speaker 2: can't do this all by himself. And he's got weapons.
Speaker 2: I saw stat today that Jacorey Mayor, the running back
Speaker 2: from New Mexico, he's the He's the transfer that scored
Speaker 2: the most touchdowns of all of them.
Speaker 3: I actually did stats for Fox Sports one New Mexico
Speaker 3: versus Fresno State last year at the end of the season,
Speaker 3: and so I did a lot of Jacory Krossky merrit
Speaker 3: research and man, he is he is really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, we're gonna take our break word
Speaker 2: to come back. Henry's got breaking news and there's lots
Speaker 2: of it. Then we've got Greg Insen at about four twenty.
Speaker 2: We'll talk some more. You have a football, so stick
Speaker 2: around for all that.