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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to Depictions Media Radio. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>policy and rights. We show Welco, welcomer policy, human Joys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to policy and right here in Depictions Media Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Michael Clogs. Well, first, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>UH California and UH the wildfire situation. I've seen as

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<v Speaker 1>many of us have seen UH videos of UH what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on with the wildfire in in in California

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<v Speaker 1>and see scenes of different area neighborhoods in UH the

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<v Speaker 1>path of of the wildfires and the devastation with UH.

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<v Speaker 1>According to report that we got from UH from Fox

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<v Speaker 1>that fire hydrant UH systems are running out of water

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<v Speaker 1>in certain areas and making it difficult for UH fire

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<v Speaker 1>companies to do their job and protect homes. But also

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<v Speaker 1>in that same report, we heard that that citizens themselves

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<v Speaker 1>are helping helping the efforts and protecting homes and neighbors'

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<v Speaker 1>homes and doing what they can to assess the fire department.

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<v Speaker 1>In one particular case, a gentleman allowed the f A

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<v Speaker 1>fire truck to actually fill up with city water from

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<v Speaker 1>his own house, which means that the that the city

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<v Speaker 1>water itself may actually for for residential use may still

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<v Speaker 1>have reservoirs available with with water. Of course, moving moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward with the United States, and course Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>making more open threats towards Canada's talking about economic takeovers

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<v Speaker 1>and other really crazy things. The thing to remember with

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<v Speaker 1>that is Donald Trump does still have to report to

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<v Speaker 1>Congress and the Senate about everything that he tries to

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<v Speaker 1>do as president. He does not have opened in free reign,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he would like to think he does, but

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<v Speaker 1>Congress does have the ability to stop him, and a

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<v Speaker 1>takeover of Canada would entail a lot of moving parts

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<v Speaker 1>and steps to get each province ratified, and I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>very much that my personal opinion, I doubt very much

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump could get it done within the four

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<v Speaker 1>years that he will be in office. So moving into

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<v Speaker 1>UH Canadian politics, the leadership race is on. The Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Party is trying to find a new leader and thus

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<v Speaker 1>that leader will t will take over for UH Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Trudeau UH as Prime Minister until UH a new election

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<v Speaker 1>can can be held, where they, of course the Conservatives

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<v Speaker 1>and the Liberals everybody will get to vote on who

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<v Speaker 1>that is. There's a lot of speculation and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of name dropping of who could do best one

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<v Speaker 1>of the You're gonna hear uh a lot about the

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh LeBlanc and how he could actually be a

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<v Speaker 1>wise choice for the leadership role for the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 1>In one particular UH interview, the reporter for this CBC

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<v Speaker 1>asked several times about but shouldn't he be taking taking

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<v Speaker 1>a role as the finance minister, said that he can

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<v Speaker 1>combat the tariffs that Donald Trump is putting a place

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<v Speaker 1>against Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>And.

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<v Speaker 3>To which.

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<v Speaker 1>The answer was, why can't he do both? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. Why can't the person who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>sit in the leadership role also directly work with the

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<v Speaker 1>United States on the problem of tariffs and trade as

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<v Speaker 1>well as along with the Minister of Finance. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a interesting selection for the Liberal Party as

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<v Speaker 1>as there they will have their caucus meeting to see

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<v Speaker 1>who they want to represent their party moving forward after

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Trudeau steps down. So, and we're gonna hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Ford as he makes some comments about the premier's

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<v Speaker 1>convention and what was discussed and potential solutions, again leading

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<v Speaker 1>back to trade and how the premiers and provinces will

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<v Speaker 1>work together to solve particular problems. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>is UH Danielle Daniel Smith of Alberta wanting to increase

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<v Speaker 1>oil production to increase revenue for Canada and not just

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<v Speaker 1>for Alberta, and how that is actually gonna look and

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<v Speaker 1>how they will manage that to meet environmental standards. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but what we're gonna listen to first now is from

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<v Speaker 1>the United Nations UN Security Council floor, as Palestine representative

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<v Speaker 1>from Palestine, AH is making a statement to the Security

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<v Speaker 1>Council about the genus ongoing genocide in Palestine and Gaza

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<v Speaker 1>and how how the Security Council is is actually UH

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<v Speaker 1>handling that, and at some point he is actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to get really choked up about what he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>because he is watching his UH, his his people suffer

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<v Speaker 1>at the hands of what would seem to be at

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<v Speaker 1>this point a bully government in Israel. So why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we start there, and then when we move forward into doug

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<v Speaker 1>Ford and the comments on the UH liberal leadership brace.

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<v Speaker 3>To President at the start of this year.

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<v Speaker 4>I also wish to convey our sincere congratulations to the

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<v Speaker 4>elected members of the Security Council now taking forth their responsibilities. Denmark,

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<v Speaker 4>Greece Pakistan, Panama and Somalia.

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<v Speaker 3>As proven in the past year, the elected.

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<v Speaker 4>Members have a very important role to play in ensuring

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<v Speaker 4>the councils uphold its charter duties and we assure.

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<v Speaker 3>Them of our full cooperation.

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<v Speaker 4>We also thank the briefers the You and High Commissioner

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<v Speaker 4>for Human Rights Volgar Turk, Doctor rich Papercorn of the WHO,

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<v Speaker 4>and doctor Tania Hedj Hassen for their important briefings and

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<v Speaker 4>compelling testimonies to the Council. I listened today doctor Hodge Hassen,

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<v Speaker 4>as I listened to you at the end of November

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<v Speaker 4>when you address the United Nations during the International Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Solidarity with the Palestinian People.

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<v Speaker 4>You are a great humanitarian and you are very faithfully

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<v Speaker 4>were able to convey.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the messages of the Palestinian.

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<v Speaker 4>People from the Gaza Strip, from the heart of a

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<v Speaker 4>superhumanitarian to the minds and hearts of those who are

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<v Speaker 4>responsible for the maintenance of international.

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<v Speaker 3>Peace and security.

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<v Speaker 4>On behalf of the Palestinian people, I thank you, and

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<v Speaker 4>on behalf of the people, our people, especially in the

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<v Speaker 4>Gaza Strip, I thank you very much, mister President. The

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<v Speaker 4>image the image of doctor Hussam about Sofia wearing his

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<v Speaker 4>white gown medical overcoat, symbol of hope and humanity, summoned

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<v Speaker 4>and walking towards Israeli tanks embodying death and destruction, will remain.

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<v Speaker 3>Forever a reflection of what is at stake in Gaza

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<v Speaker 3>humanity itself.

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<v Speaker 4>It will show people standing up against all odds in

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<v Speaker 4>the face of terrible suffering, trauma and death, and it

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<v Speaker 4>will show how lonely they were in that moment. Palestinian

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<v Speaker 4>doctors and medical personnel are fighting to save human lives

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<v Speaker 4>and losing their own. They are fighting a battle they

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<v Speaker 4>cannot win, and yet they are unwilling to surrender and

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<v Speaker 4>to betray the oath they took. They are trying to

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<v Speaker 4>save lives while hospitals are under attack, while medical personnel

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<v Speaker 4>are together with their patients and people seeking shelter besieged

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<v Speaker 4>and killed, while buildings and works even for mothers and

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<v Speaker 4>newborn babies, are being did while access to medicine is

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<v Speaker 4>being denied, while electricity is cut, while starvation is imposed,

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<v Speaker 4>and while they know that the people they are trying

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<v Speaker 4>to heal will most probably die and that they the doctors,

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<v Speaker 4>will be held responsible by Israel for the ultimate crime

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<v Speaker 4>of trying to preserve life in Gaza and will be detained,

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<v Speaker 4>tortured and even killed, and yet they continue trying. Doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Mahmoud Abu nu Jela, who was killed in an Israeli

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<v Speaker 4>air strike on a Lauda hospital, wrote a message many

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<v Speaker 4>months ago on a white board in the hospital normally

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<v Speaker 4>used for planning surgeries, and I caught him. Who whoever

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<v Speaker 4>stays until the end, will tell the story.

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<v Speaker 3>We did.

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<v Speaker 5>What we could.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember us, remember us.

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<v Speaker 3>We owe them more than remembrance.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing can explain that for fifteen months Palestinians in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>Having doured hell and been abandoned to this faith.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing justifies that the doctors who were trying to save

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<v Speaker 4>lives of victims have become themselves the victims, and that

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<v Speaker 4>the international community he was not able to match even

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<v Speaker 4>part of their courage and of their dedication to humanity.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Adnan Alborch wrote, and they quote, we will die standing.

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<v Speaker 3>And we will not kneel.

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<v Speaker 4>All that remains in the valley are its stones, and

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<v Speaker 4>we are its stones.

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<v Speaker 3>End of Gottes.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Adnan Alborsh was the head of orthiopaedics at Raza's

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<v Speaker 4>Alchhi Hospital. He became a familiar face across the globe,

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<v Speaker 4>as his videos showed him operating on the injured and

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<v Speaker 4>the dying with little or no equipment or digging mass

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<v Speaker 4>graves with his colleagues in the yard of the hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>and finally facing the Israeli assault in a hospital where

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<v Speaker 4>thousands had sought safety, the Israeli army ordered a shiffer,

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<v Speaker 4>its patients, staff, and approximately fifty thousand displaced people sheltering

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<v Speaker 4>in the compound to evacuate before setting the hospital on fire.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead of fleeing, doctor al Bursh made his way to

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<v Speaker 4>the Indonesian hospital in northern Gaza, where he worked until

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<v Speaker 4>that two came under fire in November, but refusing to

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<v Speaker 4>renect on his oath, he moved to allow the hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>where he was eventually arrested by the Israeli occupation forces.

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<v Speaker 3>Four months later.

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<v Speaker 4>Over prison guards dragged Alborsch and dubbed him in the

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<v Speaker 4>prison yard, naked from the waist down, bleeding an unable

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<v Speaker 4>to stand. According to a deposition collected by Israeli human

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<v Speaker 4>rights organizations, he died shortly thereafter. The death of doctor Alborsh,

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<v Speaker 4>while in Israeli custody is not a solitary case. Other

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<v Speaker 4>doctors and many other detainees died while in custody after

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<v Speaker 4>having suffered from abuse, torture and rape. Mister Press, then

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<v Speaker 4>this is not a war, and doctor Tonia has indicated

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<v Speaker 4>this is an assault against Palestinian existence. Its target is

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<v Speaker 4>therefore life itself in Razi and all those who are

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<v Speaker 4>trying to sustain it, all those trying to ensure survival

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<v Speaker 4>in the midst of this genocide. And according to this

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<v Speaker 4>criminal intent, it is therefore logical that medical personnel doctors, nurses,

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<v Speaker 4>paramedics are among.

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<v Speaker 3>Its primary districtives.

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<v Speaker 4>This is immoral, I repeat, this is immoral, unbearable.

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<v Speaker 3>And must be stopped.

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<v Speaker 4>The entirety of international humanitarian law rests on a fundamental

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<v Speaker 4>rule ording protection to those not taking part or no

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<v Speaker 4>longer taking part in hostilities first, and for most civilians,

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<v Speaker 4>the sick and the wounded, and those detained.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of upholding the cardinal.

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<v Speaker 4>Principle of distinction, Israel systematically resorts to indiscriminate attacks when

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<v Speaker 4>it does not deliberately target those afforded.

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<v Speaker 3>Protection under international law.

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<v Speaker 4>Time after time, the same acts, the same patterns, the

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<v Speaker 4>same criminal and inhumane conduct assaults against hospitals, leading to

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<v Speaker 4>the death and detention of civilians, including babies and children

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<v Speaker 4>who are already experiencing hell on earth. No one should

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<v Speaker 4>grow accustomed to these horrors. Israel wants to normalized genocide.

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<v Speaker 4>The report of o rc HR clearly indicates that and

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<v Speaker 4>the quote the attacks on hospitals often followed a similar

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<v Speaker 4>pattern involving missile strikes on hospital buildings, the destruction of

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<v Speaker 4>hospital facilities, shooting of civilians sieges, as well as temporarily

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<v Speaker 4>taking over hospital buildings end of quotation. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>without addressing again and a quote the many cases of

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<v Speaker 4>arbitrary detention, enforced disappearance and ill treatment of medical personnel

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<v Speaker 4>and other palestinians, including internally displaced persons idp id peace

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<v Speaker 4>taken into custody from inside hospitals, which has been reported

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<v Speaker 4>on elsewhere fend of quotation. This is a barbaric and

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<v Speaker 4>it should lead not only to repeated expression of outrage,

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<v Speaker 4>but rather to resolute action for accountability to prevent the

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<v Speaker 4>occurrence of such horrors as worn by you and experts

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<v Speaker 4>and they quote under occupation. Intentional assaults on healthcare facilities

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<v Speaker 4>have the potential to expose individuals to cruel, inhumane and

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<v Speaker 4>degrading treatment, and many constitute a war crime in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>This is clearly part of a well.

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<v Speaker 4>Established pattern of genocide for which Israel leaders will have.

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<v Speaker 3>To be held accountable. End of quotation.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no justification for the commission of war crimes.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no justification for the commission of crimes against humanity.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no justification for the commission of the crime

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<v Speaker 4>of genocide.

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<v Speaker 3>No justification whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>The ICJ Provisional Managers Orders aimed at preserving the right

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<v Speaker 4>of the Palestinian people to be protected from acts of

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<v Speaker 4>genocide have not only been disregarded by Israel, they have

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<v Speaker 4>been blatantly breached, materializing the risk instead of addressing it,

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<v Speaker 4>Mister President, Israeli action can only be understood in the

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<v Speaker 4>context of the real goals of this war. Remember we

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<v Speaker 4>talked about the report of the Generals, which we don't

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<v Speaker 4>talk about it anymore. Israeli officials and military commanders have

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<v Speaker 4>often confessed to them. For anyone willing to hear, some

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<v Speaker 3>Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>Israeli occupation soldiers described the actions and instructions of their division.

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<v Speaker 4>Chief Division commander of Division two fifty two, Brigadier generally Yahudabah,

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<v Speaker 4>stated to Aretz that his aim was to flatten as

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty thousand Palestinians who were still present in

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<v Speaker 4>northern Gaza, to take over the land. He's building a

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<v Speaker 4>private militia from settlers, from relatives, from fanatic soldiers, to

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<v Speaker 4>destroy every day fifty sixty buildings in the Gaza strip,

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<v Speaker 4>needed to and they quote, according to Haretz, make things

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<v Speaker 4>hard on convoys that entered and harassed them. Not only

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<v Speaker 4>there are thieves who steal the trucks, the Israeli soldiers

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<v Speaker 4>are watching and facilitating this behavior, insisting, and they continue

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<v Speaker 4>the quotation, there are no innocence in Gaza. For those

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<v Speaker 4>of you who think that this is a war against

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<v Speaker 4>Hamas and not against the Palestinian people. A general braggadier

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<v Speaker 4>general currently in the Israeli Army, head of Division two

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<v Speaker 4>fifty two, there are no innocents in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>Free game.

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<v Speaker 4>Every individual in the Gaza Strip, the Palestinian people. But

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<v Speaker 4>his greatest insanity in the wars of one officer of

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<v Speaker 4>the occupation army and a quote was the one about

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<v Speaker 4>moving the Gazans southward and taking land, as much land

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<v Speaker 4>as possible and the potie.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a war against the Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a war of genocide to eliminate as many

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<v Speaker 4>as possible and to allow the situation in Gaza to

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<v Speaker 4>be not inhabitable by any individual. They don't want Palestinians

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<v Speaker 4>in the Gaza Strip and later on in other parts

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<v Speaker 4>of the occupied character. Cuation orders and destruction of civilians

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<v Speaker 4>infrastructures including hospitals, and killings and maiming of civilians, including

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<v Speaker 4>doctors have to be understood. In this context, either the

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<v Speaker 4>Palestinians are displaced or they are destroyed. There is no

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<v Speaker 4>other option, ethnic cleansing or genocide, and for the time

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<v Speaker 4>being it has meant both, Mister President. The images are

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<v Speaker 4>out there for all to see of repeated assaults against

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<v Speaker 4>our hospitals as part of the assault on Palestinian life

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<v Speaker 4>and Palestinian existence. You can see such assaults also in

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<v Speaker 4>the West Bank by the Israeli occupation forces.

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<v Speaker 3>They keep claiming the use of human shields.

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<v Speaker 4>They say Hamas used the people in Gazda as human shields,

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<v Speaker 4>saying how outrageous it is for combatants to use human

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<v Speaker 4>shields or to pretend to be civilians when their occupation

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<v Speaker 4>forces have done both repeatedly, with occupation forces sometimes disguised

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<v Speaker 4>as civilians, as patients even pretending to be pregnant women

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<v Speaker 4>seeking care with her relatives, have conducted military raids against

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<v Speaker 4>and within hospitals.

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<v Speaker 3>That is their behavior.

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<v Speaker 4>For those who try to lecture to you that others

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<v Speaker 4>are using civilians and human shields, these evidence, these stories

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<v Speaker 4>were documented and some were caught in the action.

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<v Speaker 3>We salute all medical practitioners.

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<v Speaker 4>From around the world who have volunteers to help our

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<v Speaker 4>people in Gaza, as well as all those who have

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<v Speaker 4>expressed solidarity and provided support to their colleagues in Palestine.

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<v Speaker 3>Your moral voices give hope.

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<v Speaker 4>To the Palestinian people and all those who cherish and

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<v Speaker 4>seek to preserve humanity. Everyone needs to choose if they

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<v Speaker 4>stand by hope and humanity as embodied by the white

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<v Speaker 4>coat worn by doctors around the world, or if they

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<v Speaker 4>stand with destruction and death. And those who say they

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<v Speaker 4>have made the right choice. Need to act accordingly, mister President,

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Hussam Abu Safir stated a few weeks before this

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<v Speaker 4>ultimate assault on the camal of one hospital and they could.

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<v Speaker 4>I refused to leave the hospital and sacrifice my patience,

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<v Speaker 4>So the army punished me by killing my son. I

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<v Speaker 4>saw him die at the entrance gate of the hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a great shock.

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<v Speaker 4>I found a grave for him near one of the

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<v Speaker 3>Close to me. End of quetessue. Doctor Abusafir.

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<v Speaker 4>Was himself injured and now he has been abducted, detained.

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<v Speaker 3>His faith anknon.

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<v Speaker 4>He refused to leave the victims behind. Can't we display

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<v Speaker 4>some degree of that same courage. The plight of doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Hassam Abu Safir, who must be immediately released, is but

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<v Speaker 4>one story from Gaza among an infinite number of stories

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<v Speaker 4>of an unimaginable loss and trauma and ache and suffering

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<v Speaker 4>and courage and resilience.

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<v Speaker 3>A story of a people.

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<v Speaker 4>Who, while receiving solidarity of people's and countries around the world,

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<v Speaker 4>feel abandoned to a terrible faith enduring another ending hell.

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<v Speaker 4>It is our collective responsibility to bring this hell to

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<v Speaker 4>an end. It is our collective responsibility to bring this

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<v Speaker 4>genocide to an end.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a new tea to save lives. This counts.

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<v Speaker 3>You have an obligation to save lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Palestinian doctors and medical personnel took that mission to heart

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<v Speaker 4>at the parallel of their lives. They did not abandon

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<v Speaker 4>the victims. Do not abandon them and Israeli impunity and

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<v Speaker 4>the genocide and this aggression immediately and unconditionally now, And

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<v Speaker 4>I thank you, mister President, for you When.

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<v Speaker 6>Is the last time I said though you never have?

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<v Speaker 7>Let's not start that now if you could just just

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm really going there.

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<v Speaker 7>I know, but and that's why I won't keep you

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<v Speaker 7>very long. So I just wanted to ask you. You've

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<v Speaker 7>been asked, i'm sure by some colleagues. So Felippe, would

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<v Speaker 7>you like to run for the leader? And what have

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<v Speaker 7>you been saying to your colleagues?

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<v Speaker 6>But well, I've been consistent that I'm seriously considering a

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<v Speaker 8>But we need to know the rules.

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<v Speaker 6>So obviously there will be a time to reflect on

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<v Speaker 6>that as the party is putting the rules together. But

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<v Speaker 6>it's true that we need an ambitious Canada. We need

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<v Speaker 6>certainly that's something that I've been thinking for a long time.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, we'll see what the rules are and

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<v Speaker 6>then we'll have more to say in the coming days.

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<v Speaker 9>me on the paraciple, set me on a connectivity creator

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<v Speaker 9>Premier concursed the MC David Graham and.

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<v Speaker 3>There at least.

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<v Speaker 8>But Pat can.

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<v Speaker 9>Remove get as well as at t if the mail

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<v Speaker 9>and shows seeker.

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<v Speaker 8>On it for me only far only to knee.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, don like law should he should he change

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<v Speaker 7>his mind?

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<v Speaker 14>He absolutely should. He has what it takes to be

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<v Speaker 14>pure polyev and I think he has broad support from Caucus.

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<v Speaker 14>So I really hope he does reconsider and put his

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<v Speaker 14>name in the hat. Wondering what is it that he

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<v Speaker 14>has that you think people well, I think Dominic has

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<v Speaker 14>incredible political sense. But more than that, he understands this country.

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<v Speaker 14>He understands what Canadians are facing, and he's real. He

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<v Speaker 14>talks like a real person. He understands the real issues

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<v Speaker 14>that people are facing, and he knows how to bring solutions.

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<v Speaker 14>And so I think he has exactly what it takes.

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<v Speaker 14>And I think he's going to stand up for Canada

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<v Speaker 14>in dealing with the US or anybody else. And that's

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<v Speaker 14>why I think he's our best bet. But it's something

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<v Speaker 14>he needs to decide do you think.

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<v Speaker 8>That MPs liberal MP's in your caucus think the same thing?

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<v Speaker 8>Also want him to reconsider.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't want to seek for others. It's not fair,

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<v Speaker 14>but I think Dominic has shown for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm probably very biased because I've been in PS for

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<v Speaker 14>a number of those years, but he has what it takes.

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<v Speaker 14>He cares deeply about this country and he will connect

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<v Speaker 14>with people from coast to coast to coast.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you not think any of the other contenders for that.

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<v Speaker 14>It's not about that. It's so I believe in confidences parties.

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<v Speaker 8>So this will say what I now.

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<v Speaker 12>What I said going into the meeting is that we

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<v Speaker 12>have an opposition leader who won't take his briefing, and

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<v Speaker 12>it's important for those inside the party to listen to

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<v Speaker 12>those inside our caucus room who have taken their security briefings.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think those concerns are being listened to. It

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<v Speaker 8>was a good caucus, as always is a good discussion.

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<v Speaker 7>Did you guys, Are you guys giving a recommendation to

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<v Speaker 7>the party in terms of what you should want the

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<v Speaker 7>leadership race.

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<v Speaker 5>To look like?

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<v Speaker 3>And was their consensus on Well, so I just.

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<v Speaker 5>Got to decide.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't discuss the caucus celebration, but it was a

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<v Speaker 11>very thoughtful conversation around the process we should be looking at.

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<v Speaker 11>Of course, it's up to the party executive to just

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<v Speaker 11>make this determination based on the constitution.

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<v Speaker 10>What's there representation from the party sect? I understand you

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<v Speaker 10>don't want to talk about what was but we're just

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<v Speaker 10>trying to understand, like, was there someone from the party

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<v Speaker 10>in there.

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<v Speaker 6>Who could actually hear your concerns?

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<v Speaker 8>Of course?

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<v Speaker 10>Was it the party president of course?

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<v Speaker 5>And what do you favor? I know you don't wan

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about what's talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you favor in a leadership race?

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<v Speaker 5>What are you looking for?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, you know, from a process perspective, we need to

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<v Speaker 11>make sure is that that it's a credible process, a

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<v Speaker 11>process that.

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<v Speaker 8>Is fair and transparent. We want Canadians to have full confidence.

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<v Speaker 11>In the process that we follow in electing the next

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<v Speaker 11>leader in the prime minister of the country.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's a very important element, which I have full confidence.

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<v Speaker 11>In the party and the board that the rules they

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<v Speaker 11>will set up will allow for that that level of

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<v Speaker 11>credibility to the entire process.

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<v Speaker 10>What does a credible process mean though?

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<v Speaker 11>What does that look like to you specifically, Well, I

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<v Speaker 11>think transparency and fairness is important. Making sure the rules

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<v Speaker 11>are in place that allows for people's participation, that there's

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<v Speaker 11>no doubt around the vote and the mechanism.

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<v Speaker 8>That was used to at the leader.

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<v Speaker 11>These are some really important fundamental principles that we follow

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<v Speaker 11>to elect anyone, including a city councilor or an.

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<v Speaker 8>MPP or an MP.

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<v Speaker 11>But also making sure that it's being done in a

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<v Speaker 11>way that there are no doubts as to that that

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<v Speaker 11>it was a favored one candidate over the other.

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<v Speaker 8>So that element of fairness is always very much Again,

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<v Speaker 8>that's our party. You have to ask the party about those.

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<v Speaker 15>TEPI do you think it should be restricted to citizens

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<v Speaker 15>and permanent residents?

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<v Speaker 11>Again, those something that party has to determine, and they

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<v Speaker 11>have to make those determinations based on bast Basically, I

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<v Speaker 11>think we need to we do have. I have to

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<v Speaker 11>be mindful about the concerns around foreign interference, right, there's

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<v Speaker 11>something we are far more aware of today than than

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<v Speaker 11>ever before.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think we need to make sure that there

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<v Speaker 8>are safeguards in ployees.

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<v Speaker 11>That will ensure that the the veracity of the process

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<v Speaker 11>and the people who engage in voting is not questionable.

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<v Speaker 10>What assurances of any did you receive that there will

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<v Speaker 10>be safeguards in place.

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<v Speaker 11>We had a very thoughtful discussion, and of course the

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<v Speaker 11>party is look at all their options and they were.

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<v Speaker 8>Really thoughtful and listening to what was presented.

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<v Speaker 11>When when your colleagues just came out and said they

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<v Speaker 11>want Donalic LeBlanc to change his mind, do you think

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<v Speaker 11>that there's enough of an effort to get him to

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<v Speaker 11>reconsider running for leadership. There's a lot of effort to

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<v Speaker 11>do that, you know. I've been saying now for the

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<v Speaker 11>last two days that we need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 11>we have a leader.

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<v Speaker 8>Who's experienced, who's fluy, bilingual, who is.

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<v Speaker 11>Able to communicate with Canadians and present a positive vision forward.

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<v Speaker 11>I think Dominic LeBlanc has a lot of talent. He

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<v Speaker 11>understands politics really well. He's demonstrated again and again his

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<v Speaker 11>belief in Canada, and.

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<v Speaker 8>I really hope that he reconsiders his decision.

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<v Speaker 10>But why should he reconsider his decision? What do you

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<v Speaker 10>make of his argument or his explanation that he needs

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<v Speaker 10>to be finance minister right now that's more important than

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<v Speaker 10>running for party leadership.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think we need to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 11>have a strong leader of the party and a strong

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<v Speaker 11>prime minister who can lead the country, win the next

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<v Speaker 11>election and continue to defend the interest of Kennadian's conversing

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<v Speaker 11>with him, I mean, look, I've run for leadership.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a big decision. There's a lot of internal reflection

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<v Speaker 8>that goes on.

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<v Speaker 11>Of course, you have to speak to your family, you

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<v Speaker 11>have to speak to your supporters, and then you make

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<v Speaker 11>a decision. And so I think the reflection process that

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<v Speaker 11>he is going through is credible. It is a big job,

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<v Speaker 11>it is a huge undertaking, and so I respect him

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<v Speaker 11>for doing that, and I'm grateful for his friendship that

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<v Speaker 11>he's listening to, myself and many people like who are

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<v Speaker 11>members of the publicity.

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<v Speaker 10>More importantly, Canada has some stability in terms of who,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, the Minister of Finance and in tergi of

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<v Speaker 10>border security at a time when you know there's increasing

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<v Speaker 10>you know, jokes or otherwise comma's being made about Canada

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<v Speaker 10>being the fifty first state of United States. Isn't that

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<v Speaker 10>more important than the Liberal party leadership here?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, first of all, we're not just talking about Liberal

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<v Speaker 8>Party leadership. We're talking about.

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<v Speaker 11>Not only the leader but also the next Prime minister

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<v Speaker 11>and somebody then who will lead the party into the

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<v Speaker 11>next election, so that we continue to defend effectively.

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<v Speaker 8>The interest of Canadians. Number one. Number two, we do

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<v Speaker 8>have a government place, We do have a prime minister

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<v Speaker 8>in place, and there is there is a cabinet, and

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<v Speaker 8>people can do multiple things at the same time. It

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't precluse them from doing one job of the other.

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<v Speaker 8>I think they're smart, smart people.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think.

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<v Speaker 8>I think, I think it will be.

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<v Speaker 11>Would be extremely beneficial to Canada of somebody of caliber's

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<v Speaker 11>coomy club Block considers learning.

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<v Speaker 10>Frontary, suggesting he could do the job he's in now

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<v Speaker 10>in cabinet and then campaign for party leadership.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, those decisions are not mine to whether one would be.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you think cabinet ministers have to step should step

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<v Speaker 10>have to step out of their role if they want

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<v Speaker 10>to campaign for not necessarily?

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<v Speaker 8>Why not not necessarily? What rule tells says that it can.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, would there be split split responsibilities?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but I think that's the decision.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't want to expect later the decision the prime

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<v Speaker 11>minister may make, and he made prime minister may decide,

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<v Speaker 11>And you're right in the past that that type of

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<v Speaker 11>decisions has been made.

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<v Speaker 10>But how can Canadians, How can Canadians be in a

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<v Speaker 10>posision to trust discovery mission have if you'll have key

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<v Speaker 10>cabinet ministers like mister Levont potentially others to get Paris

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<v Speaker 10>also trying to campaign for leadership, like how can Canadians trust?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, there are many capable people in in this UH,

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<v Speaker 11>in this caucus who can.

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<v Speaker 8>Play different roles.

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<v Speaker 11>If somebody chooses to run for leadership and they are

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<v Speaker 11>required to step away from their responsibility, I think the

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<v Speaker 11>strongest spokesperson, the strongest advocate for for for Canada we

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<v Speaker 11>have is the Prime Minister himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Meeting with the Premiers of Canada, had a very good

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<v Speaker 5>and constructive conversation. We are going to Ottawa next Wednesday

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<v Speaker 5>to sit down with the Prime Minister and Minister LeBlanc

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<v Speaker 5>and we're just making sure that we have a strong plan.

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<v Speaker 5>I know the premiers have a strong plan, but we

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<v Speaker 5>want to see where the federal government stands right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep in mind, the Prime Minister is still the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 5>the Minister is still the minister, and until that changes,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to make sure that we hold their feet

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<v Speaker 5>to the fire and come out as a united country

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<v Speaker 5>on a message to our American friends and allies, and

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<v Speaker 5>let's just make sure that we do everything in our power.

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<v Speaker 5>I mentioned to the premiers to avoid these tariffs. I

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<v Speaker 5>personally feel they're coming. They're coming hard. The President has

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<v Speaker 5>really ramped up his talking points over the last day

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<v Speaker 5>or two, and we're concerned. We're concerned, but we're a

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<v Speaker 5>strong country. We're a very strong country when it comes

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<v Speaker 5>to other critical minerals and energy and manufacturing. So we'll

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<v Speaker 5>see how this moves. But we want ongoing conversations, weekly

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<v Speaker 5>updates from the federal government, be it the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 5>or Minister LeBlanc, and we just look forward to getting

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<v Speaker 5>there and having a conversation. We're also confirming on February

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<v Speaker 5>the twelfth will be in Washington meeting elected officials in Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>A group of US will be going down there as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll take any questions based on that concern. Who do

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<v Speaker 5>you want to be the voice that brings up those

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<v Speaker 5>concerns to your US counterparts when that time comes. Reading that, well, good,

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<v Speaker 5>good question. Every premier has their responsibility, no matter if

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<v Speaker 5>it's the Western governors, mid West governors, East Coast governors.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone's contacting their counterparts down in the US, and as

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<v Speaker 5>I've been saying over the last little while, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>hearing the same tone from governors and senators and congress people,

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<v Speaker 5>and my fellow premiers aren't hearing the same tone as well.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think there's a little split down in the US.

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<v Speaker 5>President saying one thing and elected officials are thinking something opposite.

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<v Speaker 12>Were that meeting on Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 13>Is that part of that going to be a list

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<v Speaker 13>from the premiers of here's what we think through intelligent TIFs.

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<v Speaker 8>Need to be That be part of that discussion.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that'll be part of the discussion. We want

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<v Speaker 5>to see their list. They put a small list together,

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<v Speaker 5>and I apologize I can't comment on that. That's really

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<v Speaker 5>showing our cards to the US. But we have a

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<v Speaker 5>strong list, and I'm sure the other premiers do as well.

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<v Speaker 5>On the federal government as a list as well. Can

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<v Speaker 5>you give us a sort of idea of what might

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<v Speaker 5>be on that list, guys, I really apologize. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think it's strategic for Canadians or Ontarians to hand out

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<v Speaker 5>the list, and it gets right down to the US government.

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<v Speaker 5>If you can just bear with us, and let's see

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<v Speaker 5>what happens on January the twentieth, and we'll make sure

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<v Speaker 5>we disclose the list after we see the tariffs out

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<v Speaker 5>there planning to put on Canada.

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<v Speaker 7>Have you seen any education?

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<v Speaker 5>Premier Trump's listening and willing to listen to what you do?

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<v Speaker 5>You know something I can't answer for President elect Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>I know our message is getting to him. I've heard

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<v Speaker 5>it from people that know him. I heard it from

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<v Speaker 5>elected officials. He's hearing our message loud and clear. No

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<v Speaker 5>matter if it's our ads that are running that are

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<v Speaker 5>very very positive. People in the US love those odds.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a positive message about working together building that and

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<v Speaker 5>can fortress. And that's our goal. We're so much stronger.

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<v Speaker 5>We can be the strongest jurisdiction in the world, the

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<v Speaker 5>wealthiest jurisdiction, almost prosperous, the safest jurisdiction. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 5>our goal, is to work hand in hand and build

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<v Speaker 5>a relationship with our US counterparts that we have over

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<v Speaker 5>decades and generations.

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<v Speaker 15>When you go down to when you go down to Washington,

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<v Speaker 15>who is taking the lead here and you know, perhaps

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<v Speaker 15>setting up a meeting with the White House, is it

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<v Speaker 15>Ontario's responsibility to take that lead as in yours who

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<v Speaker 15>is in charge of this group of premiers that's going

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<v Speaker 15>to be going.

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<v Speaker 5>Down Yeah, thanks for that, Colin as a chair. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll be taking the lead. Ontario will and I know

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<v Speaker 5>other premiers are going to be setting up meetings and

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<v Speaker 5>their contacts that they build up their relationships with congress

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<v Speaker 5>people or senators or governors. So we'll go down as

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<v Speaker 5>a group, but we'll be setting up individual meetings and

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<v Speaker 5>the people that we've built relationships with.

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<v Speaker 15>Is the White House on the list of you'd like

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<v Speaker 15>to have, Well, no, it's not. Are you authorized to

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<v Speaker 15>meet with the president?

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<v Speaker 8>If if it comes to.

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<v Speaker 5>That, you know, that'd be up to the president. And

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<v Speaker 5>we're going down there to speak to the American people,

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<v Speaker 5>to speak to the elected officials down there that can

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<v Speaker 5>get into the ear of at that time President President Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>What kind of feedback you're getting the federal government down here?

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<v Speaker 5>The Fortress can not What does that mean? I haven't

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<v Speaker 5>heard from him. I just haven't heard from There's a

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<v Speaker 5>lack of leadership right now in Ottawa. But I want

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<v Speaker 5>to compliment someone. I want to compliment Dominic LeBlanc. I

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<v Speaker 5>have confidence. As long as he's in his position, he's

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<v Speaker 5>going to do a great job leading. All the premiers

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<v Speaker 5>get along very well with Minister LeBlanc and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 5>he's at the table. We do have to follow up

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<v Speaker 5>with the minister that's in charge of the border, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's I believe Minister David McGuinty. I would imagine like

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<v Speaker 5>he should be out there on a daily basis telling

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<v Speaker 5>the US what we're doing to secure the border. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not the province's responsibility. We've had to step up to

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<v Speaker 5>cover that gap.

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<v Speaker 15>Last question for you, or said earlier today that if

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<v Speaker 15>the tariffs are applied in Ontario that you would need

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<v Speaker 15>to spend ten billions of dollars in order to make

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<v Speaker 15>sure you're showing up Ontario's economy.

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<v Speaker 8>So you said you didn't have a mandate for that.

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<v Speaker 15>What does that mean that you are setting the stage

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<v Speaker 15>for a potential early election as early as February.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm not saying that Colin I need a mandate

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<v Speaker 5>from the people. Similar to the pandemic. The only difference

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<v Speaker 5>with the pandemic it was worldwide. Secondly, if we had

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<v Speaker 5>a unanimous vote, which is which is shocking Queen's Park

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<v Speaker 5>for anything, but we'll be there to support the businesses

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<v Speaker 5>that may potentially get hurt an election. Well that's that's

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<v Speaker 5>your comments, not mine. But let's see what happens. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>see how long these these tariffs are in place. And

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<v Speaker 5>I did, I did mention to the premiers that Ontario

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<v Speaker 5>is going to get hit the hardest barn over anyone.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's my job as Premiere to protect the industries,

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<v Speaker 5>to protect jobs in Ontario and the people of Ontario.

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<v Speaker 5>And I will spare no expense to make sure that

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<v Speaker 5>we keep our economy going, because our economy pays for everything,

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<v Speaker 5>no matter if it's a healthcare, education, social services, infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 5>and we need to make sure that we protect all

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<v Speaker 5>jobs and the people here.

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<v Speaker 7>But the.

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