Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 1: So in the short term, Mars is really about getting
Speaker 1: the spaceship build.
Speaker 2: We're making good progress on this on.
Speaker 1: The on the ship and the booster.
Speaker 2: Code named b f R. Yeah, what what is this
Speaker 2: tand for? Again, well, it's a bit of it.
Speaker 1: It's like sort of a R in acronym form and.
Speaker 2: But it is very big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I gave a presentation on this at the
Speaker 1: International Astionalautical of Congress in Australia last year, and that
Speaker 1: design is evolving rapidly.
Speaker 2: We're actually building.
Speaker 1: That hip, that ship right now. The I think right
Speaker 1: now that like the biggest thing that would be helpful
Speaker 1: is just general support and encouragement and good good will.
Speaker 1: I think once we build it, there will be well
Speaker 1: we'll have a sort of a point of proof something
Speaker 1: that other companies and countries can then go and do.
Speaker 1: Like they currently don't think it's possible, So if we
Speaker 1: show them that it is, then I think they will
Speaker 1: they will up their game and they will build interplanetary
Speaker 1: transport vehicles as well. Now, once once that has been
Speaker 1: built and there is a there's a means of getting
Speaker 1: cargo and people turned from Mars as well as turn
Speaker 1: from the Moon and other places on the Solar system.
Speaker 1: Then I think that's that's really where that there's a permit,
Speaker 1: this amount of entrepreneurial, entrepreneurial resources that are needed because
Speaker 1: you've got to build out the entire base of industry,
Speaker 1: everything that allows human civilization to exist. And it's going
Speaker 1: to be harder, a lot harder in a place like
Speaker 1: Mars or the Moon.
Speaker 2: We're going need to volunteers to be colonists. Do we
Speaker 2: have any colonists volunteers here for more? Actually?
Speaker 1: Not many hands raised by the way. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Moon of Marles often thought of as like is this
Speaker 1: some escape escape hatchable rich people, But it won't.
Speaker 2: Be that at all.
Speaker 1: It's in anyone who put for the early people that
Speaker 1: go to go to Mars, it'll be far more dangerous.
Speaker 1: I mean really, it's it kind of reads like Shackleton's
Speaker 1: ad for Antarctic explorers.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like.
Speaker 1: Difficult, dangerous, good chance you will die. Yeah, excitement for
Speaker 1: those who survive that kind of thing. And I think
Speaker 1: there's not many people who actually want to go in
Speaker 1: the beginning, because all those things I said are true.
Speaker 1: But there will be some who who will for for
Speaker 1: whom the excitement of the frontier and exploration exceeds the
Speaker 1: concern of danger.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 1: And then we'll start off building the post elementary infrastructure,
Speaker 1: just a base to create propellant, a power station, ah
Speaker 1: blast domes in which to grow crops, all of the
Speaker 1: sort of fundamentals without which you cannot survive. And then
Speaker 1: and then really there's going to be an explosion of
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial opportunity because Mars will need everything from iron founderies
Speaker 1: to pizza joint, two nightclubs. I think Mars should really
Speaker 1: have great bars, the Mars bar.
Speaker 2: Sor right like I would. I love dad jokes, I'm dad,
Speaker 2: what do you think the timeline for this is?
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling pretty optimistic about the timeline, although I'm
Speaker 1: I can be a little sometimes My timelines are a
Speaker 1: little you know, people have told me that my timelines
Speaker 1: historically have been optimistic, and so I'm trying to recalibrate
Speaker 1: to some degree here. But I can tell you what
Speaker 1: what I know currently is the case is that we're
Speaker 1: we are building the first ship, the first Mars or
Speaker 1: or interplanetary ship right now, and I think we'll be
Speaker 1: able to do short flights, short sort of up and
Speaker 1: down flights, probably sometime in the first half of next year.
Speaker 2: And this is this is a very big booster and ship.
Speaker 2: The liftoff thrust.
Speaker 1: Of this would be about twice out of a seven
Speaker 1: and five, So it's a it's capable of doing one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty metric funds to orbit and be fully reusable,
Speaker 1: so that the expendable payload is round round double that number.
Speaker 2: So what it will.
Speaker 1: What's amazing about the ship, assuming we can make well
Speaker 1: and will and rapid reusability work, is that we can
Speaker 1: reduce the cost module cost per flight dramatically by orders
Speaker 1: of magnitude compared to where it is today. This this,
Speaker 1: this question of reusability is so fundamental to rock Tree.
Speaker 1: It is the it is the fundment, fundamental breakthrough that's need.
Speaker 1: If you consider aircraft, for example, the you can lease
Speaker 1: a seven forty seven and do a return flight from
Speaker 1: bull of Cargo from California to Australia for half a
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's what it costs to lease a seven
Speaker 1: forty seven fully around trip to Australia, which is far.
Speaker 2: To buy a single engine.
Speaker 1: Turboprop plane, a good one would would be about one
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars, and that can't even reach Australia,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's tiny compared to seven forty seven.
Speaker 2: So what that means is like a it.
Speaker 1: Costs less to to take it to use a giant
Speaker 1: plane with a huge cargo for a long trip, then
Speaker 1: that costs way less than buying a small.
Speaker 2: Plane for a short trip.
Speaker 1: In the aircraft world, and the same actually is true
Speaker 1: of rockbry The the the a beer for a flight
Speaker 1: will actually cost less than our Falcon one flight back
Speaker 1: in the day, So that was about a five or
Speaker 1: six million dollar marginal cost per flight. You're confident that
Speaker 1: BFR will be less than that. So that that that's profound,
Speaker 1: and that is what will enable the creation of a
Speaker 1: permanent based on the Moon, any city on Mars. And
Speaker 1: that's the equivalent of like the Union Pacific Railroad, or
Speaker 1: or having ships that cross across the oceans. Until you
Speaker 1: can get there, there's no way for all of the
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial energy too, so you can't you can't do anything,
Speaker 1: there's no way for all the flowers to bloom. Once
Speaker 1: you can get there, the opportunity is immense, and so
Speaker 1: we're going to do our best to get you there,
Speaker 1: and then make sure that there's an environment in which
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs can flourish, and and and then I think it
Speaker 1: will be it'll be amazing, absolutely