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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody. It is Thursday, but it's

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not just any Thursday, Rob Bino. It is Thursday of

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conference championship week, one of the best days. There is

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Fridays the same, and then of course we get the

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championship games on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I always I can't. I love Selection Sunday for the bracket.

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Speaker 1: I hate that there's so few games and then you

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have to wait like a whole day with nothing.

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Speaker 2: So really, the next two days are for the betters.

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Speaker 1: And if you're just a college basketball fand these next

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two days rival the first couple of days of the

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NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, Rob, so.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't be more excited to get into it and start

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chatting with you. But first, what we do every day

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every day on this show is recap the day prior.

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Speaker 2: I went out to Bethlehem, PA.

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Speaker 1: Last night, Rob got to see Lehigh cut the nets

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down and punched their ticket to the tournament. But I

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also went to and Oh. I had Florida Atlantic and

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I had Saint Bonaventure. So a nice two and oh

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day and hopefully we can replicate it today. How was

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your Wednesday night, Robbino. I think you're muted bun.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there we go. Yeah, I was three and four yesterday, Adam.

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Of course, in my world, they're all smaller plays. We're

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about to launch into larger plays pretty quickly here and

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today we're going to ready to launch into a huge

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board today. Like you say, these next two days are

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fun days, need them to be profitable days. But I'll

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just go through, you know, the good is the good.

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We'll go through a couple of the bad here, maybe

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misreads maybe you know, maybe not so much misreads. But

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I'll start with the guy to hole Montana game where

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I should have never really had a chance to get

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over one six. But boy, in the end, it happened

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a lot of these games as we watch them on fold,

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you have no business with an overticket, and all of

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a sudden you're in business with an overticket because these

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extensions on games, especially during this time of year, is crazy.

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How teams will just not they'll refuse to give up.

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They don't want their season to end. So that was

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one of the bad another one of the bad. Man,

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I'm trying to think here really quick. What went off

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early yesterday, well early yesterday that was good? Was the

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Iowa State team total. Over I think we talked about

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that game, so I'll hit on that for a minute.

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Arizona State Bobby Hurley now officially out played Iowa State.

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I think you liked them as a side. I definitely

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liked them as a team total. Kind of talked about

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their inability to score. Came through in a big way.

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And because we have so many games here, I'm not

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even going to try and remember what I had, but

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I do know it was. I'm pretty positive it was

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a three and four because it was a one in

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one in the NBA for a feurig and overall, let's

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get to what's happening today. It's far more important.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a good segue because our feature game is

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once again Iowa State. I figured it went so well yesterday.

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We both kind of nailed that one. It's I believe

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our only matchup ranked team vers ranked team, although I

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think you can throw those like top twenty five rankings out,

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you know, once you start to get to conference tournament

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and whatnot, But it is, I guess officially ranked team

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versus ranked team matchup the only one on the slate today.

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So early tip again, Big twelve glass court or whatever

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the hell they're playing on which hopefully won't be back

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last year because the players seem to hate it.

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Speaker 2: But we've got Texas Tech Iowa State. Rob.

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Speaker 1: We just saw this matchup not too long ago, March Monday,

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Big Monday, March second to be. I'm sorry that the

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Saturday the twenty eighth was when this game was played

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Texas Tech. I'm sorry, Iowa State hosting Texas Tech, and

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that was a game that Iwa State lost. And in hindsight,

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I think we started to bring this up in yesterday's

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breakdown of the game. Maybe that was the spot where

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they were a little bit fatigued coming in, you know,

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off of the Utah trip Iowa State had played, you

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know BYU lost that game Utah.

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Speaker 2: They beat Utah, but everyone's been beating Utah.

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Speaker 1: And then a home game against Texas Tech and they

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lost eighty two to seventy three.

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Speaker 2: Iowa State doesn't lose.

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Speaker 1: Many home games like that, so I'm almost inclined to

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think that maybe that was a bad spot for them, Rob,

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and maybe today is a much better spot. So talk

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to me a little bit. Texas Tech, Iowa State. Do

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you like the spot better for the Cyclones?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, That game in itself is somewhat interesting

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at him because you know, I know how we reacted

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as betters to JT. Topp and being lost for the season,

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Big Twelve at the early part of his absence probably

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reacted the same way. No Toping, bad for him, great

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for us, you know what I mean? Kind of that

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letdown deal without JT. Topp and being out on a

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flour because in Hilton Coliseum you don't see those types

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of results all that often when Iowa State supposedly has

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the upper hand. I think if I were to classify

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it as a tough spot for Iowa State, I would

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stay for that reason. I don't know that their mindset

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was right in that game to go out and take

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on Texas Tech, who's mindset always seems to be right,

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because without top and they've still come through in a

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few games that they've actually played better than I would

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have expected them to play in his absence. So we

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get what we get today Iowa State. I had said

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yesterday that I thought this Big Twelve Conference tournament was

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an opportunity for Iowa State to re establish reset readdress

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to everybody that we are one of those We're not,

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you know, the fraudulent Elite eight team that we started

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to look at them as. But we are that type

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of person, and we have that type of person now

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we are that team. I don't like the number here though,

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five and a half. I give Texas Tech far more

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credit than that under Grant McCaslin to come here and

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show up advantages for Iowa State. A. They had a

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game yesterday, They've been on this court once. B they

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have the revenge factor.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 3: I do think they have a little bit of an

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edge in personnel. Obviously, without topping on the other side,

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I would think here, Adam, that they do. If they

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didn't have as much respect as necessary the first time

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around when they lost at home, they'll have it this time.

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So I can make a great case for Iowa State.

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What I can't make a great case for is laying

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this number five and a half again. I just Texas

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Tech is really good defensive minded. Texas Tech has shot makers,

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perimeter shot makers, rim attackers, and any Grant McCaslin team

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is still going to play pretty good defense. And I'll

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just revert back to yesterday. It didn't happen yesterday Arizona

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State folded from the opening tip. But Iowa State is

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prone to scoring droughts, and off of yesterday's shooting performance,

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as fantastic as it was against Ay, you know, this

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is like three steps up in defensive class from what

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they saw yesterday. So to me, I do think Iowa State.

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But should they win by six? Man, I don't know.

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to play it, I would play the Tech side. This total.

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I generally don't say odds makers have it nailed, and

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it's not really the odds makers who have it nailed

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because the money dragged it down to one forty three

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and a half. But it's in a difficult area here

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for me to safely think of it as an over.

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I can see an Iowa State scoring drought here, and

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I can see a little bit of tough minded defense

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out of both sides. Last thing I'll close with here,

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Adam is on one to frequently say coaches like to

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fix what went wrong the first time Iowa State giving

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up eighty two to Texas Tech minus JT. Toppin is

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what went wrong. And I think for the other side,

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Texas Tech just goes about their business here. So for me,

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if I had to bet at lean, Texas Tech, probably

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no play total.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm certainly not dying to lay the number.

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Speaker 1: My number is right in line with where the market is,

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so I don't I don't necessarily see value on Texas Tech,

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but I don't really want to lay that number either.

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What I will say is, you know, if Texas Tech

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doesn't go out and shoot unconscious in this game, I

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think they probably lose. If you go back to the

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most recent meeting that we that we you know, referred

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to it aims Texas Tech in that game rob fifty

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eight point five percent from the field.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Like, that's really good.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you replicate that against you know,

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Iowa State and what T. J Osseilberger can do defensively

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fourteen threes in that game for Texas Tech shot fifty

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eight percent of fifty eight point five percent from the field. Like,

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if they don't kind of do that again, I think

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they're likely playing from behind at some point in this game. Now,

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like they they clearly were just didn't have it in

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the tank after the Baylor win. So I don't want

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to put too much stock into that result because I

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think that that was, Yeah, Iowa State played well, but

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that was heavily, in my opinion, related to Arizona State

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kind of giving an all out effort to beat Baylor

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and then having to come back against a team that

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they are far inferior too yesterday. So you get a

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ninety one to forty two result sort of mixed in

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with the numbers there that maybe a little bit overstated.

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I mean, that's crazy. It's a fifty point win. You know,

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that's probably not totally indicative of like what the scores

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should be between those two those two teams. But yeah, yeah,

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you get Iowa State already having the you know, experience

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of playing on the floor, already having the experience of

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playing an early tip because of course Iowa State was

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in the early tip off yesterday. So this is probably

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one that wager Talk's not gonna want to clip because

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I kind of like Iowa State here. That's the way

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I lean But again, I can't say that with enough

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conviction to like, you know, want to want to fully

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go against you. So Rob, maybe maybe we just kind

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of move on quickly from this one because there's so

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many other games. Uh, it was it needed to be

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discussed because it's the only game today where we've.

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Speaker 2: Got ranked opponent or ranked opponent. But I just don't see.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have a bet on that one, and

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we kind of like opposite side.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's uh move.

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Speaker 1: On now and we'll get an extra game in here today.

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All right, let's move on to Garth. Garth has donated.

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He appreciate the donation, Garth, and he says one in

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one yesterday since he fell short. But the Air Force

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Nevada first half under was swept free today. Yeah, it

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was sweat for I didn't watch any of that Nevada

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air Force game, but I saw that air Force had

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four points for like a very long time at one point.

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So I don't even need to look to know that

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that under was sweat free. Oh he's doing that. Yeah,

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he's going to the Alma Mater. I know how you feel, Garth.

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I don't go out of my way to bet on

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or against Sienna, but sometimes it falls in your lap.

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And I just had a great weekend back in my

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alma mater, so we hope you.

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Speaker 2: Do as well.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be Conference USA Tournament robin again. With

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all the games today, it just takes me a second

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to navigate. Kelly Stewart would be badgering you for a

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rotation number right now. I'm not gonna do that. I'm

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just gonna find it on the screen, and I have

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found it.

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 1: He wants to talk his alma mater, the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers.

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Speaker 2: They take on Kennessaw State.

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Speaker 1: You've had a better beat in this league than I

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have this year, so I'm gonna let you start this

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one off Kenessa State, Western Kentucky. Garth's looking at the

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money line for his alma mater, but also if you

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have a sideer total, give us the breakdown.

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Speaker 3: Well, Garth could be looking at double revenge for WKU.

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Kennesaw beat him twice and within a short span and ATAM.

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It's so interesting. We've talked about this numerous times. I

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think for you and I had started way back when

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you were kind of letting your feelings be known about

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the Miami Florida in conference schedule. But these conference schedules

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because of the amount of teams in them, and this

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conference in particular, because of the travel and whatnot. They

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played twice in eleven days and Kennesaw won both meetings,

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and neither meeting was high scoring, which is kind of

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crazy that when a two game series with Kennesaw that

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you can't get one game to be high scoring. Eighty

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one sixty five Kennesaw seventy two sixty nine Kennesaw WKU

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falls short in both of those. Kind of interesting to

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me that they score sixty five and sixty nine against

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this defense just doesn't make a lot of sense that

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Western wouldn't be able to put up points. But I

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will say this, as the season went on, towards season's end,

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Western Kentucky was on an offensive role. This is a

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team that I was kind of, let's say, disenchanted with

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the way they were playing offense. Normally with Western Kentucky

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college football, college basketball, I'm looking at a lot of

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offense here.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 3: We didn't see a lot of point production, but we

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saw it. At the end of the year. Things may

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turn around a little bit, but they gave up a

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bunch last two Missouri State and FIU eighty seven and

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ninety two points a lot. Man, I wanted so badly

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to play over here, but this season series dictates to

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me that you can't possibly play over one fifty seven

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and a half at Kennesaw is a really good team

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on the boards, so to me, could be an edge.

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Of course, Kennesaw is gonna play with that pace. W

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Western Kentucky found a way to somewhat, you know, handle

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that Kennesaw pace. It was quick, but it wasn't what

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I would call rapid tempo quick the way Kennesau State

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wants to play. So to Western Kentucky's credit in their

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positive list, they've kind of found a way to handle

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the pace, but they haven't found a way to score

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against this team. You know, if Garth is playing a

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double revenge angle, you can't argue with that. Although I

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will say this, you can't beat people three times in

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one year is not coming up that adage. Might we

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might as well just burn it in the bonfire because

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we're seeing teams win three straight times against opponents. It's

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almost as if if you have their number during the

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regular season, then you just have the matchup personnel to

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do it one more time, especially on neutral floors. So

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for me, I'm not rooting against Garth in any way,

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shape or form. I don't have a play on the game.

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I would have looked at it from a totals perspective,

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but I can't get to the over here and I

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can't trust enough that any Kennesaw State game will just

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stay under So best for me to lay off when

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there's a you know, like a sixty game slate out

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here today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's kind of how I felt about

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this one too, So I wish.

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Speaker 2: I had more to offer.

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Speaker 1: Of course, my computer is loading. I was trying to

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figure out. I feel like this was another one where

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I was pretty close on the number. So I'm wanna

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audible here. Well, I'm gonna stay in the conference USA,

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because I don't want to just if I talk about

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that game, I'm essentially gonna say a lot of what

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you said and then not give really much of an

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opinion because I just don't have as much of an

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opinion on that one. So what I would say is,

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if you're trying to bet that game, I think I

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think Garth is like seventeen and seven or something. His

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last twenty four, and if he likes Western Kentucky, maybe

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that's the way you should look in that one. But

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because we're on the topic rop of Conference USA, I

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will throw some thoughts out on the other Conference USA

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game today, Middle Tennessee State Louisiana Tech. I was at

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the first meeting between these two teams, and Middle Tennessee

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State did not just could not miss. To the point

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where I mean, Rob, it was like people in the

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stands were laughing because everything they threw up went in.

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They hit twenty two threes in that game. They won

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by like thirty. It was just as if you ever

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just wanted to the definition of this was their night.

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Speaker 2: That was middleton Tennessee State in the.

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Speaker 1: First meeting against Louisiana Tech could not miss thirty point blowout. Now,

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if you go look at the second meeting, Rob, and

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you look at the box score, you're gonna see a

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close game, and I believe you're gonna see a Louisiana

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Tech win fifty nine to fifty eight. The return meeting

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in rustin Louisiana. Now, the interesting thing about that game

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is that game was not.

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Speaker 2: A close game. Until the end. Middle Tennessee State was.

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Speaker 1: Up twenty in that game as well, forty to twenty

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one at halftime, had a twenty point lead in the

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second half, and somehow managed to lose the game on

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the road in that game. So I guess that the

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thought I wanted to point out, like I've tried to

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make a case for Middle Tennessee State, and I do

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think that they.

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Speaker 2: Match up better with La Tech than vice versa.

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Speaker 1: And where I think you have some I guess tangible

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evidence of that being the case is they have a

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thirty point win in the first meeting, which is I

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was trying to find the exact score eighty eight to

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fifty one, it was actually thirty eight point win in

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the first meet thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: I need a calculator over here right now, Rob.

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Speaker 1: Can't add but what I can tell you much more

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simple math that the second meeting.

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Speaker 2: Eight, you know, got much closer, but.

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Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee State still had a twenty point lead at

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one point in that game. And maybe that just goes

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back to what you and I have been saying all

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year in this conference, where it's tough to close games

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out on the road, and they couldn't close out a

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twenty point lead on the road. I still think if

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you look at eighty minutes between these two teams, Middle

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Tennessee State has been the more impressive side, and they've

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they've matched up better and if their shots are gonna

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fall in this matchup, I just don't see how La

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Tech has much of a chance. So I'm actually gonna

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make this my parlay leg. I'm just gonna put Middle

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Tennessee State money line in the parlay. I have not

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bet this yet for clients. I actually haven't bet anything

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yet for clients, But that's a little bit by design.

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 1: I've decided that I kind of want to wait out

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this ten to eleven am rush of like fakes and

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moves and stuff like that. That's kind of what I

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did yesterday. And well we had Saint Bonamenter because it

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was an early game. Well I'm gonna have plenty of

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action today. This might very well be one of them.

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Speaker 2: I see. It's taking money as we speak.

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Speaker 1: So all we'll do is just put the money line

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in and Middle Tennessee State money line will be my

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parlay leg today. Now, Rob forgot in the recap nice

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two team winner for us in the parlay yesterday, so

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maybe we'll add a third leg today we'll see, but

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one of them is going to be Middle Tennessee State.

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Money line anything for you on the total in that game?

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How do you even handicap Middle Tennessee State just going

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bombs away from three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the first part of the handicap, if

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you just go with what the evidence shows us, is

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that Louisiana Tech has had a hard time scoring against

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his team. And not only did Louisiana Tech have an

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especially hard time scoring against his team, but they've had

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a hard time scoring all season long. So it would

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if one side is going to have that much difficulty,

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they couldn't correct what went wrong the first time around.

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They couldn't score any better, the blowout loss they get

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in the fifties, the rematch they win in the fifties,

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can't get the sixty points twice against MTSU. That would

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immediately draw me to under the problem with this total

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under is that it's one thirty one, and if Middle

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Tennessee goes crazy like they did shooting the basketball in

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the first game, you wind up with an over, so

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the totals in a difficult spot. I agree with you

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that the only way to look at this would be

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from the MTSU side. You know that second half in

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that second game, they scored like eighteen points Middle Tennessee

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and still only lost by one. You mentioned they blew

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a big lead, but I don't know how MTSU goes

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that cold against this team other than the obvious, which

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is Louisiana Tech has been a team all season long,

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predicated in defense and not much scoring. They want you

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to get into the grinder. Middle Tennessee can play in

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the grinder, but I think they would prefer to show

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some pace here, so we'll see neutral FLOWD have to

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favorite Middle Tennessee. Everything between these two meetings indicates they're

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the better side. Rob.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you one more thing that might explain

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that second half. So you and I since the beginning

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of Conference USA play have noted the travel in this

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league is crazy. And so that law Tech game came

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as the third game of three straight road games. And

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so this was Thursday the eighth, Middle Tennessee went to

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UTEP that's El Paso, Texas. Saturday the tenth, they were

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in Las Crusis, that's New Mexico, and then Wednesday the fourteenth,

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down in Rust and Louisiana. So that was three road

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games in the span of like six or seven days,

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El Paso, Las Crusis, Rust and Louisiana. Not exactly the

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easiest road trip. I mean, listen, I've driven some of

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these road trips this year. I make my own road trips,

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going all these games that would even be taught. I

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don't even know if I could handle that, Rob, and

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I'm just sitting there watching the game.

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Speaker 2: I don't play. So you gotta think.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Middle Tennant State ran just rich, straight up ran

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out of gas, because forty to twenty one in the

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first half is you know, goes from very convincing to.

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Speaker 2: How in God's name did we blow that lead?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a travel in this league, catching up

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with them on a three game essentially a three game

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road trip across the country.

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Speaker 2: They don't have that today.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I really do like the Middle Tennessee State

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side quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go back here.

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Speaker 1: Well this I'll pick a game because I think I

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don't think anyone's going to have a problem with this.

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Eleven AM tip a team that hasn't lost yet this year.

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Rob Vino the Miami Ohio RedHawks. I was at the

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game with Brian Power in Athens, and it was It

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was definitely one of the most enjoyable basketball games I've

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ever been at.

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Speaker 2: It was just a tremendous game, awesome crowd. BP.

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Speaker 1: He was out of control, so it was just it

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was just awesome. We had a great time. Ohio had

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them on the ropes. Pavelevski had a look. It goes

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to overtime, but ultimately Miami of Ohio finishes their perfect season,

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their perfect MAC record.

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Speaker 2: They're the one seed in this.

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Speaker 1: League, and Rob, what do they get An eleven am

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tip and no advantage, no advantage, no nothing, just a

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pat on the back here for being the one seed

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and then of course an early tip against a U

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Mass team that was pretty much right there with them

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on two occasions. So this one starts at the top

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of the hour. I can't even believe this. Miami of

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Ohio's perfect season is on the line at eleven am

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Eastern in literally thirty seven minutes.

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Speaker 2: Mind blowing to me.

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Speaker 1: They can't even get like the eight pm tip or

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the seven pm tip Rocket Arena, Cleveland, Ohio, U Mass.

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Miami of Ohio does do the minute men have any

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chance here, Rob, oh.

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Speaker 3: They have a chance, for sure. We've seen that twice already. Right,

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in fact, they had a better than good chance the

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first time around. That one's scared at Miami's been in

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so many late scary situations of having that one loss

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put in their column, and this was one of them

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the first time around. Then second time around back at Amhurst,

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I mean wasn't as close, but still UMass was never

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like blown out of the water in that game. It's

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not like they had to paddle back and catch up.

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They were in that game the entire way. Just a

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little more margin, a little more separation created by Miami

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in that one. You know, to your point here, Adam,

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you would think that if you're gonna stick Miami of

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Ohio with an eleven am game, you would be doing

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that in order to make your to give your number

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one seat an advantage by maybe bracketing them so that

478
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,839
they can play the team that plays the very last

479
00:24:56,839 --> 00:24:58,920
game of the night, so you get more risk the

480
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,480
early game against the extreme late game. It's not even

481
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,279
the case, you know, It's just like, okay, Miami Ohio,

482
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,559
we don't most of these teams try to protect our leagues,

483
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:09,599
try to protect their number one seed. I don't know

484
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,279
that there's a lot of protection going on in the

485
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:14,079
MAC right now with them. Frank Martin's had two shots

486
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,799
at Miami of Ohio. What I will say from a

487
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:21,839
totals perspective is it's kind of been the same game twice,

488
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,400
very high scoring. I don't know that that changes here

489
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,559
because when you ask what U mass did to Miami

490
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,240
O the first time around was absolutely destroy them from

491
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,680
an offensive standpoint, interior inside the pink, whether it be

492
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:46,079
lane penetration, whether it be big guys just going you know,

493
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,759
avoiding the double team and going one on one day.

494
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:53,599
The interior play was all you mass from an offensive perspective.

495
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,359
In that game, they weren't as good, but they were

496
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,000
still fifty one percent two and a half percent from

497
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:00,839
two point range in this game. So I think that

498
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,319
advantage exists for Miami from Massachusetts. If you're MIAMO, I

499
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,640
don't know, Adam, You've had two games, but after watching

500
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,680
the second game, I feel like they can't correct that.

501
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,839
Like the size advantage is what the size advantage is

502
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,559
in this game for you mass The other end of

503
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:22,319
that spectrum is Miamio's perimeter players, just you know, Suitor

504
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,960
Elmer these guys have their way against you mass and

505
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,960
as long as they have a decent shooting day, they

506
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,240
will again. So for me, little bit head scratching that

507
00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:36,519
the total would come down. But I will say this,

508
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,319
teams haven't played in a while, and if we're gonna

509
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,559
go rest versus rust, go ahead. I see you want

510
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:44,319
to hop in with me.

511
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you said the little surprise the total came down,

512
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,240
But do you think that's just eleven am tip neutral

513
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,680
venue money like that has nothing to do with the

514
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,160
actual game, because that's kind of what I feel like, Yeah.

515
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: It's it probably is all situational. Like I say this

516
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:01,599
rest versus rust, which we can never like always say

517
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,880
it's true. Anybody who tells you they know, I knew

518
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,599
rest was gonna help them. Oh I knew they were

519
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:08,960
gonna be rusty. You know they're full of expletive. We

520
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,440
don't know that until the game is over. And if

521
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,920
you're playing it on a neutral it could be that

522
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,559
both of these teams come out a little bit cold. Here.

523
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,319
Hard to say that about Miami of Ohio because they're

524
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,920
shooting percentages are through the roof after like a thirty

525
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,640
five game season, They're not showing any decline in shooting

526
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,880
the basketball. If I had to play here, I think

527
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,640
I would take a look and I've had you know,

528
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,400
there's one team and I see again. I don't generally

529
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,519
look at the chat, but I laugh here because I

530
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:45,200
see a little bit I see by you with a

531
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:48,240
quote that I use off and left at the altar.

532
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,599
Miami of Ohio is a team that twice now has

533
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:55,000
hooked me with a team total. So I won't play

534
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,119
it because if I play over eighty four and a half,

535
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,640
they're gonna score eighty four guaranteed. But it's kind of

536
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,160
the I kind of look at Over and maybe you're

537
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480
better off Adam to just play sick and half over,

538
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:09,599
let the first half play out, and then let the

539
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,319
guys get into shape. Here. I think you Mass has

540
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,960
an opportunity. I thought this a couple of days ago

541
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000
when I saw this matchup. I'm thinking to myself, Man,

542
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,200
you Mass might be the team that gets them, and

543
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:23,599
this undefeated season might end really, really quickly. If I

544
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,279
had to play, I'd take seven and a half here.

545
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

546
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: So this is the hard part about this for me

547
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:38,440
is that I think Miami, Ohio will score like pretty

548
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:41,160
much as much as they want, So the question becomes,

549
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,640
can you MASS keep up with them? The answer so

550
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,000
far has been yes, like you Mass has been able

551
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,640
to keep up with them, which which would actually push me,

552
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,680
I think more toward a full game over because I

553
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,279
do think you get scoring from both places. Now, then

554
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:58,000
you got the new wrinkle of Okay, well, we're playing

555
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,960
this game at eleven am. I mean we have seen

556
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,640
there is I don't know how much of it is

557
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,240
like legitimate, but I think we remember, like when there's

558
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,160
an eleven am game and it comes out and it

559
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,319
looks like both teams are asleep, we remember that more

560
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:15,200
than like, Okay, this is just a normal game occurring

561
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,319
at eleven am. So I just don't know how much

562
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,240
that really matters. Here's my problem with Decide. It's that

563
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,079
I think matchup wise, Miami of Ohio is going to

564
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:28,079
be fine, because I don't UMass is such a mess

565
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:31,359
defensively that they're not going to be able to make

566
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,279
any sort of adjustment to limit Miami of Ohio from

567
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:38,400
getting open shots. This is such an elite spread offense

568
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,200
for Miami of Ohio that they will get their open shots.

569
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:43,839
Now could they miss them? Because it's eleven am, and

570
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,319
it's just they're off a little bit. Yeah, I suppose

571
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:49,519
that could happen. But if they don't, they're gonna score.

572
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,200
They'll they'll get their eighty four points rob maybe even

573
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,160
eighty five if you don't bet it. If you don't

574
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,279
bet it, they might get ninety five, you know, or

575
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,839
but put the The problem here is you Mass. There's

576
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:04,519
two problems if you like Miami of Ohio in my opinion.

577
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Problem number one, U Mass is equipped to keep up.

578
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,759
They can play through a bet betty all in the

579
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:14,839
post and they will score it. They've shown the ability

580
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,000
to get to the rim and score points and hang

581
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,119
around in the game. The second problem, if you like

582
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Miami of Ohio, in my opinion, the odds makers have

583
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,440
really priced in the tax, right, Like, I've got this

584
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:29,400
number at five, but you can get eight. At least

585
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,039
there was eights out there. I don't know if it's

586
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,680
back to seven and a half. So the point is

587
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,240
the odds makers are forcing you to pay the tax

588
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,319
to bet to lay it with Miami of Ohio. I

589
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,039
just don't necessarily think that that's the wrong move. So

590
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,599
for me, it was a pretty easy pass. But if

591
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,359
you think U mass hangs around in this game, it

592
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,599
has to go over in my opinion, Like, I don't

593
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,640
see a scenario where U mass covers and the game

594
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,319
stays under.

595
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: So do what you will.

596
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do with that, but like

597
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,359
I think there's some correlation there, Rob, I think it's

598
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,039
a if you mass covers this number, it has to

599
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:03,680
go over in my opinion.

600
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: I'd agree. And just for context of how difficult it

601
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,799
is to make a choice whether teams are going to

602
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,279
come out sleepwalking or shooting, just take a look at

603
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:19,519
that Saint Bonaventure game yesterday played at eleven thirty am,

604
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,799
where Saint Bonnie scores ninety nine points and the SOW

605
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,000
game totaled one hundred and seventy nine points. Who would

606
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,440
have thought that was gonna happen? You know, if you

607
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:31,000
if you had that mindset and you alternative bet that

608
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:35,119
thing over one seventy eight, you don't need to play today.

609
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,119
So it can go either way. I do think these

610
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,640
two teams, like we've both mentioned here, have shown us

611
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,880
this game is kind of a one way ticket as

612
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,039
far as offense is concerned. It's way more offensive than

613
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,880
defensive as we speak, at them I see a little

614
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,880
bit of a bump back now from one sixty to

615
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,119
one sixty and a half. So there's some resistance coming

616
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,799
back the other way.

617
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, once again, they're watching the show.

618
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: Rob.

619
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,559
Speaker 2: It's how it goes. We talked about it. Meet moves immediately. Listen.

620
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: We're not gonna get to nearly as many games as

621
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,640
there are today, but Rob and I will both have

622
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:15,279
a loaded card that in my opinion, for college hoop,

623
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,200
the best, uh, the best value you can find on

624
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,079
the site right now is the three day double the

625
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:23,839
fire Power CVB package. It's all of my plays, it's

626
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,359
all of Rob's plays, and this three day window Thursday, Friday,

627
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Saturday of conference tournament. I mean, from a value standpoint,

628
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,319
it's as good as you're gonna get. We also have

629
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:40,079
the package up through the NCAA tournament. If you are

630
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:42,799
looking for a longer term, we've got that as well.

631
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,480
Dan Jay says Lehi was a lock Stabler arena was

632
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:49,039
very humid, definitely a home court advantage. Yeah, it was

633
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,000
hot as hell in there, Dan, I was with I

634
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,440
was in a T shirt. I was sweating in the

635
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,160
T shirt last night, like it wasn't you know why,

636
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,559
Because that building was built in the seventies. Super close quarters,

637
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:04,799
but a really cool building out there, and the Lehigh

638
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:07,079
fans showed out last night. There was like five thousand people.

639
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:10,519
The venue holds fifty six hundred, which is actually very

640
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:14,160
big for the Patriot League, and it was pretty close

641
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,799
to full. So that was really cool last night. And

642
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,160
congratulations to Lee High for the first I believe they'll

643
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,640
be in the NCAA tournament for the first time since

644
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,799
the infamous Duke.

645
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Collapse.

646
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,319
Speaker 1: I get what infamit when no one likes Duke rob

647
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,319
So everyone was excited about that. Of course, CJ McCollum,

648
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:35,160
that Lee High team pulled the big upset. I think

649
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,519
this Lee High team is going to be playing on

650
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,599
Tuesday next week in the first four, so there actually

651
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,680
might be a spot. Maybe we'll get a chance to

652
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:48,200
bet Lehigh against a like opponent. All right, let's go

653
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,599
to Mansy. Mansey says, great hit yesterday, fellas if he's

654
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,839
referring to the parlay, I appreciate you. Yeah, Saint Bonaventure,

655
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,599
Sam Houston, both get it done. We'll be trying to

656
00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:59,720
do it again today. Maybe a three teamer. We've already

657
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,640
got one of the legs locked in. We've got a

658
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440
half hour to lock in another two. All right, I

659
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,960
want to talk about this game. So I'm glad you

660
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,320
brought it up. I'm assuming he says, I'm leaning GM.

661
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,199
I'm assuming that's George Mason, and he you know, this

662
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,159
is this is an interesting one because I came into

663
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,880
yesterday thinking that, Okay, part of the reason I liked

664
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,239
Saint Bonaventure is I thought this maybe set up for

665
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,800
them to make a little bit of a run. They

666
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,760
come out yesterday, rob they handle a salt like I

667
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,000
expected it was. You know, I played two things yesterday

668
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480
and that was so obviously one of my favorite angles

669
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,519
of the day was Saint Bonaventure. They had no problem

670
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:44,440
with the sal I thought I would be more inclined

671
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000
to be on them again than I am. When I

672
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,280
saw the number, I kind of think the odds makers

673
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,840
maybe got this one right a little bit.

674
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: I was hoping for like five.

675
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: I was hoping for like a Bonniach plus five plus

676
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:59,159
five and a half. This one, at least last I checked,

677
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:03,039
was down in the three half range. So manzy, I

678
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,840
guess I I personally lean Saint Bonaventure, but I wonder

679
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,320
if my logic is a little bit flawed in the

680
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,880
respect that like, and I'm gonna turn it over to

681
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,960
Rob to sort of just talk in general about this.

682
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:19,760
Do you ever find yourselves in yourself robin conference tournaments

683
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,840
like wanting to go back to the same team and

684
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,880
having a hard time like basically treating it as a

685
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,400
new game. So like if you win, like yesterday, I

686
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,559
won with the Bonnies, and in my head, I'm like, well,

687
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,719
I think they could make a little run. I think

688
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,719
sometimes does that flaw? Does that cloud you're thinking at all?

689
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,039
It's like what I'm trying to say, because like here,

690
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:45,519
I am just wanting to run it back with Saint Bonaventure,

691
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,320
and I feel like I have to pull myself back

692
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,800
a little bit and say, look at this game and

693
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,280
don't try to forget about what happened yesterday when you're

694
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,320
handicapping this game.

695
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,639
Speaker 2: I guess is I'm curious to get your take on that.

696
00:35:57,639 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell you what, It just happened to me twice.

697
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,000
It happened to me twice, but it happened to me

698
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:04,960
with Idaho two nights in a row. Like why didn't

699
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,199
I just go play Idaho all the way through? That

700
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,280
and you know, it's a team that I thought I

701
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,679
had a good read on. It's a team where, you know,

702
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,559
the folks watching the show, I've heard me relentlessly talk

703
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:21,679
about Colton Mitchell, and Colton Mitchell wasn't even a factor

704
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,639
last night. But without even diving deep into what happened

705
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:28,079
with Idaho winning that tournament, the answer to your question

706
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:30,559
is yes, I found myself in that spot as recently

707
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:34,039
as last night. Again, should have had Idaho against Montana.

708
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:40,159
This one, I think, in my opinion, just comes down to,

709
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:45,719
you know, Saint Bonnie had such a huge advantage yesterday

710
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,559
against LaSalle, where personnel is concerned that in this case

711
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:53,199
you're playing the George Mason team that they played the

712
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,039
front end of the season a lot stronger than they

713
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:59,840
played the back end. Again, the problem with these teams, Adam,

714
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,519
that are predicated on the defensive side is there's only

715
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,440
a handful of them that can play the necessary offense

716
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,159
to give you confidence to play them. You know, George Mason,

717
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:13,840
when I backed them this year, I find myself just

718
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,400
like clenching my hands and hoping or clenching my fists

719
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,440
and hoping that they don't go into these scoring drugs,

720
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,000
which they inevitably do. It's not that often where George

721
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,519
Mason is clean offensively through forty minutes. That rarely happens.

722
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:31,000
Could happen today, it's college basketball, but it doesn't happen.

723
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:32,639
So you have to assume they're going to have a

724
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:36,159
tough time at some point scoring. But my counter to

725
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,039
that is Saint Bonaventure has been so bad defensively all

726
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:41,960
season long that this is probably what you would call

727
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:44,880
like a perfect elicks or for the George Mason offense

728
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,719
to come out here. You know, now the positive side

729
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,920
for Bonadventure. I can't make positive sides fundamentally or positive

730
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,599
arguments fundamentally, but I could make them situationally. I think

731
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:01,639
that win yesterday does great. It does for Saint Bombie's

732
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,599
mindset for their psyche. Nineteen point win, coach job, ninety

733
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:08,440
nine points, let's go, we had a bad season. We

734
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,920
can correct it all right here. So we see those

735
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,239
types of teams, you know, do some damage at conference

736
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,159
tournament time, have a poor a regular season, come back

737
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:23,320
with a really strong conference tournament season, and it's all

738
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,440
ignited from a general perspective, it's all ignited by that

739
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:31,119
first win. If you get that first win. That's the

740
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:37,000
confidence builder that would you know, somewhat negate any case

741
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,199
that could make for George Mason. It depends which one

742
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:42,159
you're weigh heavier, the George Mason there were a better

743
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:46,280
team aspect or the same body. Listen, Confident teams on

744
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,159
a roll or that can get on a role are dangerous.

745
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:52,320
So for me, it's probably a good stay away because

746
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,199
I could see that when you know, when that game's over,

747
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,920
I could see you and I talking about it. Either way,

748
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,239
George Mason was just too good or man Saint Bonnie's

749
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,119
confident right now?

750
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:06,159
Speaker 1: Look out, Yeah, Rob you you you do such a

751
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:09,920
good job of following coaches and being tuned into what

752
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,199
they're saying. And I feel like we'd be remiss to

753
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:16,039
not point out the Schmidt angle here, where you know,

754
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:18,559
this is a guy that, yeah, I think I made

755
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,119
the comparison yesterday on the show.

756
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: You know, you had the whole uh you know.

757
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Hurley, and you know, maybe he's he's not like

758
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,280
always the most well like, whereas you got a guy

759
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,559
like like Schmidt who's been there for two decades, very

760
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:36,360
very well liked by the Saint Bonaventure community. So this

761
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,239
is one where you know, liked by his players, Like

762
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,719
I don't think I've really heard many negatives about him

763
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,920
over the years. Completely turn that program around. I mean

764
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:48,639
when he took that program over twenty years ago, I

765
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:51,320
think they were coming off of like almost having to

766
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,079
cancel the Like I think they had to cancel a

767
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:56,519
season due to like something that was going on within

768
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:58,519
the program that was that I have to go back

769
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:00,679
and look exactly what say Bonaventcher did.

770
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: Let's put it this way.

771
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,559
Speaker 1: They were in a bad spot, and so I almost

772
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:08,039
think motivation wise, the Bonnies obviously want to, you know,

773
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:11,599
try to give it like their absolute best shot for him.

774
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,440
But on the flip side, Rob, I was at George

775
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,760
Mason's most recent game.

776
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: I had to rub the glasses for a second.

777
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,639
Speaker 1: I thought Tony Skin subbed himself in because they looked

778
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,719
like the Final four team in that game. They destroyed

779
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,519
Saint Louis, destroyed him third, They were up thirty the

780
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:29,800
majority of that game. And that goes back to your

781
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,239
point where, Yeah, that George Mason team on the final

782
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,000
day of the season looked like the.

783
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,039
Speaker 2: George Mason team from earlier in the season.

784
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,159
Speaker 1: That people were like, oh, they're gonna win this league,

785
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,079
because before Saint Louis really fully emerged, George Mason was

786
00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:46,559
right up there at like seven or eight and one

787
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:47,519
in this league as well.

788
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: So it's a fascinating game.

789
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: But like I think, if you forced a lean out

790
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,519
of me in this one, it would be it would

791
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,199
be Saint Bonaventure, just because I felt like they played

792
00:40:57,199 --> 00:40:59,239
so well yesterday and kind of what you're saying, Rob,

793
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,239
you get one and that can be the snowball effect.

794
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,119
So I slight leaned toward the Bonnies for me here,

795
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,960
all right, I lost somehow lost what I was gonna

796
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,920
put on the screen, but I know what game it is.

797
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: Here it is.

798
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,079
Speaker 1: Garth has donated again, very much, appreciate you. And he

799
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,480
brought up a game that I apparently came on ready

800
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:27,079
to talk about because I wore the Louisville gear here, Rob,

801
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,119
so I wore the Louisville zip up. So we got

802
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:34,519
to talk Miami Louisville. And what Garth says is he's

803
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:37,199
looking at the team total. Yeah, we just saw this

804
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,639
game five days ago and Miami Florida scored eighty nine.

805
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,559
Louisville scored ninety two in that game, Rob and you know,

806
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,559
they kind of shot the lights out.

807
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: And the way I look at this, I know I've been.

808
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: Very anti Miami at times this year, but if Louisville

809
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,960
doesn't shoot the ball the way they do, they lose

810
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,559
that game. And they haven't always shot it like, especially

811
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:03,119
when they're not in their home gym, which they won't

812
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,719
be here, they'll be on a neutral floor. They haven't

813
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,360
always shot the lights out this year outside of the

814
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,679
Young Center. So my question to you, and you can

815
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,719
talk about Gar's team total as well. If Louisville doesn't

816
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,159
shoot the lights out today, are they losing this game?

817
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,639
Speaker 2: And what do you think about the total?

818
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's amazing is they shot the lights out without

819
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,679
mckel brown. And you know, do you get to do

820
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,239
that twice without him? I'm not sure. He's such an

821
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,039
important part of that three point offense, which is where

822
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:36,440
Louisville really generates everything from their three point shooting. So

823
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:40,800
you know, if I had to project, will they do

824
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,360
what they did to Miami a few days ago? No,

825
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,119
I don't think they will not without Brown as a

826
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:54,800
key component. And also the short term turnaround here. Listen,

827
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,039
I've talked a lot about Jay Lucas being a guy who,

828
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,239
anytime a microphone is in front of him, will make

829
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,920
sure that everybody listening knows we're a team of physicality.

830
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:12,559
We're physical. We're a physical basketball team. That's our nature,

831
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:17,760
that's our our blueprint, that's our calling cards, so to speak.

832
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,920
And when you go through the defensive results against them

833
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,840
this year, that type of offensive performance against Miami is

834
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,239
an outlier that's got to stick in the back of

835
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,119
your head, really fresh for Miami because it happened so recently.

836
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:38,039
I think Miami comes back with a better defensive effort

837
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,400
in this one. I kind of, you know, my initial

838
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,079
reaction to this was I like the Miami side. I

839
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:47,280
like Miami's ability to score, even though they're not as

840
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,920
flashy as Louisville. You know, they're not splashing threes. It's

841
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,679
not as aesthetically pleasing, but Miami still scores. They score

842
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,559
in a different way, and they score a lot. So

843
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,320
to me, I thought the Miami side was correct here. Adam.

844
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,000
I think there's a lot of uh, you know, revenge

845
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:10,079
gets tossed around too much, and probably by myself as well.

846
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:12,719
I say it way too much, but I think that

847
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,960
there is a part of Miami that wants to correct

848
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,639
what happened to their defense in that game, because that

849
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:22,320
type of defense hasn't shown up on Miami side almost

850
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,880
all season long. They've been a very good defensive team

851
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,679
inside conference. So I rather than total, I kind of

852
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,920
like the Hurricanes here. It's a tea. It's funny. This

853
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:37,719
team somewhat has a chip on their shoulder, like somebody

854
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,000
recognizes us please as a good team, and they continually

855
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,679
go out in workmen like fashion and record wise they

856
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,280
prove it. So for me, it would probably be that

857
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:51,960
more than the total. And I can't disagree with Garth's

858
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,519
total because on the other end of that, I don't

859
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:59,559
know what Pat Kelsey and Louisville can do to correct

860
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,760
Miami scoring against them. Like Louisville is not a good

861
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,400
defensive team. They wanted to get into a track meet.

862
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:09,400
It's their style. They'll allow you to score, which allows

863
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,039
them to score to come right back at you. I

864
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,639
could see Miami's team total going over, But more than that,

865
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,280
I do like the Miami side here.

866
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lean toward Miami as well, even though again

867
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,760
I've been anti Miami this year, but that makes a

868
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,199
lot of sense. I've actually criticized Pat Kelcey on this

869
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,960
show for the lack of adjustments. I feel like it

870
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,159
doesn't make enough adjustments, especially in game. The game that

871
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,519
comes to mind was the Louisville I think it was

872
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:38,599
North Carolina game where it was so clear, as clear

873
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:41,039
as day that UNC was going to run them off

874
00:45:41,039 --> 00:45:43,840
the three point line and almost they were almost like

875
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,519
sort of like daring them to go to the rim

876
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:49,800
at times, and Louisville just insisted on taking tough three

877
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,880
after tough three. And I've also noted Louisville's just like

878
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,480
kind of how they know show games like this, like

879
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,840
any big game that's in sort of like a standalone spot.

880
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:05,199
They like they have awful an awful record in like

881
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
nationally televised big games in the Pat Kelsey era, they

882
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:12,079
really have not won many of them. And so again,

883
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:14,400
I mean, this is not this will be in the

884
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,000
shuffle of the afternoon games, but I believe this is

885
00:46:18,039 --> 00:46:20,480
like kind of like the one of the main games

886
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,320
of the two o'clock window. So my final question to you,

887
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,039
Rob is are you comfortable making this a three teamer

888
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,719
and using Miami as our joint leg of the three

889
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,679
teamer because I'm good with it if you are.

890
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's let's go ahead and we both like it,

891
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:40,960
so let's go ahead and use it. I mean usually

892
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,079
when we're in agreement here, it works out pretty well.

893
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:49,440
So we'll get on that one. I'm trying. You know,

894
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,119
it's coming close to the time where I have to

895
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:55,079
go ahead and add the other leg to the parlot.

896
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:58,239
And I'm just trying again the sort of thoughts out here.

897
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let's take one more game.

898
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:02,679
Speaker 3: Let's take one more game, and then I'll go.

899
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,639
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'll give you one. You can

900
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:07,760
close it out with that. We have time. We have

901
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,440
time for one more. So someone asked, what was the parlay?

902
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,000
Like always, we're gonna recap it at the very end.

903
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:18,960
We do have two legs locked in and and we'll

904
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,480
recap it at the end. All right, I'm gonna go,

905
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,079
I'm gonna go grab one at random here. This is

906
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:25,840
an interesting one.

907
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,519
Speaker 2: Let's so.

908
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:30,639
Speaker 1: A couple of people have asked about un LB Utah State.

909
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,880
Stomp says, don't think UNLV wins, but I think they're

910
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,239
two and zero against Utah State this year. They are

911
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,599
playing at home, Rob, you love your quote. Did you

912
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,280
see the Josh Passner interview yesterday?

913
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: The guy was, I mean, I bless everything.

914
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is worth a watch for sure. But

915
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:54,480
he made sure to point out that UNLV has been

916
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:57,760
awful at the Thomas and Max Center over the years

917
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,119
in this tournament. And he also made sure to point

918
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,599
out Rob that they finally beat someone not named Air

919
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:06,480
Force in the Mountain West Tournament.

920
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:09,679
Speaker 2: That was, of course, yesterday with their win over Wyoming.

921
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: The Utah State UNLV thing is is as puzzling as

922
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,719
it gets to me. If you go back to the

923
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,079
first meeting, Utah State blew a big lead and lost

924
00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:23,760
in logan, something they never do, and then they just

925
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,920
got straight up blown out at.

926
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,559
Speaker 2: Thomas and Mac.

927
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: Now I look at this and say, that's definitely baked

928
00:48:30,519 --> 00:48:33,079
into the number. Now there, you know this number is

929
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:36,199
is a little bit short based on like I kind

930
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,320
of where I have this team. These teams power rated,

931
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:42,960
But I mean, listen, UNLV has been playing good ball

932
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,920
and they clearly have figured out something with this Utah

933
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,519
State team.

934
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 2: So what do you make of that?

935
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:53,119
Speaker 1: Because Utah State is probably the better team, but they

936
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:56,480
have just looked awful in two games against UNLV this year,

937
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,320
So can you find a bet in that one?

938
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 3: You know it's hard to ignore. But again, third meeting,

939
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,960
better team has lost twice. Here's a case where I

940
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:16,840
would consider the better team in a double revenge angle mode. Again,

941
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,960
I just said a few minutes ago that we throw

942
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:24,920
revenge around too often. It's not always applicable. It's a

943
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,039
nice term to use when you're trying to build a

944
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:30,800
case for your team or your side, but in this instance,

945
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,159
I do think it does apply. Utah State has clearly

946
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,360
been better all season long. UTA State did have a

947
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,599
little bit, and you know, the Mountain West is one

948
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:45,280
of those adam where the talent levels are so consistent.

949
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,199
The competitiveness of these teams, this group of teams at

950
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,840
the top is so close that you're gonna have these

951
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,199
stretches just like you would in an SEC just like

952
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,199
you would in a Big twelve. Look at Houston lost

953
00:49:57,199 --> 00:49:59,159
three and a Big twelve. It's kind of the same

954
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:01,800
in the Mountain West. We can get beat up for

955
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,480
a little bit. At season's end, Utah State didn't look

956
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:07,639
as great as they did through the middle. But here's

957
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:10,480
what we know about Jared Calhoun he's every time that

958
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:13,320
team's on the floor, he's looking for style points. He's

959
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,199
looking to show the committee something. So I my first

960
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:19,679
feeling is, if you're gonna lay points with Utah State,

961
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,840
don't worry too much about it, because Jared Calhoun's gonna

962
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,079
try as hard as he can to win by larger

963
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:30,519
margin for you. He's not a guy that's gonna dribble

964
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:33,599
out the last thirty seconds of the game. He's probably

965
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,280
going to attack the rim and get a bucket. We've

966
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,559
seen it happen. We've seen the other one instance where

967
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:42,039
another coach was angry with him. I do think they're better.

968
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:46,559
I think their offense at times is unstoppable. The question

969
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,719
for them is can they stop UNLV, who's put up

970
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,679
eighty six and ninety two against them. They can't find

971
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:57,119
a way to stop UNLV. I think they can do

972
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,239
enough there this time, Adam. I kind of like the

973
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,280
Utah States side in this one. Now, the problem you

974
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,880
went into is it's Thomas and Mack and again they

975
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,400
hadn't performed well at home this year. But in this setting,

976
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:15,719
I've been in this place before when the conference tournament

977
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,159
time rules around in UNLV's on the floor. It's it's

978
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:20,719
a little bit different, So I think I would lean

979
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,119
more towards Utah State team total in this one. I

980
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:27,639
think they score against UNLV in this particular instance, and

981
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,440
probably score enough to win the game. Whether or not

982
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:32,679
they can cover seven and a half number is a

983
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:34,800
little bit tough. I'm looking here, Adam, and it seems

984
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,800
to me like our odd screens are down. Unless that's

985
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,119
just me, I cannot get.

986
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,039
Speaker 2: A Sometimes you gotta go at.

987
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:45,159
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to just x out and then and

988
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:50,039
then relog back in. I think that, I mean, just yeah,

989
00:51:50,119 --> 00:51:54,000
let me let me double check, because it's uh yeah,

990
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:55,400
it's it looks like it's working.

991
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,559
Speaker 2: You just have you have to x out and then

992
00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:00,599
go back in. I've had to do it a few times.

993
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,599
Speaker 3: As you said that, I was doing it, and you're right,

994
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:06,599
I got it back here. So total's gone down in

995
00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:08,559
this particular game to one fifty six and a half.

996
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:12,599
That Utah State total has held firm. Interesting that their

997
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,920
number is held firm even though the full game total

998
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,119
is going down eighty one and a half to the

999
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,239
over for Utah State side. I think I could look

1000
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,960
that way in that game.

1001
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:27,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird because you know, I leaned toward you

1002
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,440
UNLV on the number in the first two meetings, and

1003
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:35,840
my number actually slightly leans toward them again here just

1004
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,199
to find exactly what it is like, I'm at five

1005
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,760
point seven Utah State. I believe this is still six

1006
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,320
and a half so close, but I'm still shading toward,

1007
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:51,159
you know, UNLV having the value, and I just can't

1008
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,159
stomach like going against Utah State in what would be

1009
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:58,440
a third string like even though you UNLV has looked

1010
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:02,119
tremendous through eighty minut in this series so far this year,

1011
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:06,599
I just have to wonder how important either of those

1012
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:09,480
regular season meetings were to Utah State. Of course, the

1013
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:14,559
first one you wouldn't fault Utah State for sort of

1014
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,039
just rolling the balls out and thinking they could go

1015
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:19,000
get a win. In the first meeting, they were like

1016
00:53:19,039 --> 00:53:21,599
an eighteen point favorite or a seventeen and a half

1017
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:24,480
point favorite in that game that they lost to UNLV.

1018
00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:27,480
So I think the first meeting UNLV kind of caught

1019
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:30,599
them a little bit off guard. The second meeting, Utah

1020
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:32,480
State straight up didn't come to play. But it was

1021
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:35,159
like toward the end of the regular season, you just

1022
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,440
have to think Rob that if Utah State shows up

1023
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,519
focused here, they're probably not losing this game. And then

1024
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:44,599
it's like, all right, you only have to cover six

1025
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,440
or six and a half. My gut says that this

1026
00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:52,159
falls near the number. I think this probably falls somewhat close.

1027
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: To the number, or Utah State's just gonna blow them out.

1028
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,519
I just don't know.

1029
00:53:55,559 --> 00:54:00,079
Speaker 1: If I could see UNLV winning three times as a

1030
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:03,000
sizable dog in the same season, that would be pretty

1031
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,960
crazy if it happens. Bayer's see Bayou's thinking like this.

1032
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,119
This is how he's thinking. Like me, He's like, oh,

1033
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:13,480
you and knowl these two and oh against Utah State,

1034
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,639
but the Aggi's are a heavy favorite slam Utah State.

1035
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,199
I mean, I get I get the mindset. You know,

1036
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,960
I understand that someone here said six minutes still tip off.

1037
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:24,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1038
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: We already talked about the Miami of Ohio UMass game.

1039
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:30,440
So as always, you can rewind. This show is up

1040
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,639
on demand. If you know, when you watch it on

1041
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,360
demand on the wager Talk YouTube channel, hit that like button,

1042
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:38,320
maybe drop us a comment.

1043
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: It absolutely helps the show and we will.

1044
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: Try to get in there and answer as many of

1045
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,400
them as we can, like we do every day, Robino,

1046
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Do you know where you want to go to close

1047
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,679
this parlay out?

1048
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,159
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do. As a matter of fact, I think

1049
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:54,360
maybe Ed is just telling people, hey, let's get yourself,

1050
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,880
get your favorite position six minutes because buckle in. We

1051
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:03,360
got a big day here. Yeah, you know last night

1052
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,199
another one on the East coast here where we are

1053
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,639
atam eleven thirty am, and then they ended about one

1054
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,159
thirty am. It's such a long day. And then you

1055
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:13,960
go to work at one thirty am at least in

1056
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,079
my case, back to the office and try and get something.

1057
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,960
What I'm gonna leave for the chat here as the

1058
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,639
third leg of our parlays, Let's just go back to

1059
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,960
familiarity and what's been really good for us and something

1060
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,280
that I like here. That's I'm gonna keep people up late.

1061
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,159
I just talked about staying up late on the East Coast.

1062
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:32,239
I'll keep you up late. Big West Tournament. Second game

1063
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,760
on the board, you see Davis Cal State bulletin. I'm

1064
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,000
gonna play the bulletin team total over seventy seven and

1065
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,760
a half. It comes attached with a number of fifteen

1066
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,840
cents over minus fifteen cents. Here Davis is shorthanded and

1067
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,440
they put you know, I got caught here last night, Adam.

1068
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,199
I played Santa Barbara. Oh Miro Little's in his second

1069
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,760
game back is Santa Barbara. I had thought when he's present,

1070
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,119
they could be the best team in this league. And

1071
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:02,320
Jim Less his team did a job on him last night.

1072
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,639
You see, Davis didn't really miss a shot. As I

1073
00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:07,920
go through the numbers here, it was sixty percent from

1074
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,400
two point range, twenty eight to fifty eight for the day,

1075
00:56:11,519 --> 00:56:15,519
just to shade under fifty percent. Didn't have Cooper, They're

1076
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:17,519
a little bit shot. And then at the end of

1077
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:19,159
the game, and I don't know how this is going

1078
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:22,519
to affect him. Connor Sevilia hurts his wrist. Went to

1079
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:24,320
the free throw line though, and made a couple of

1080
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,880
free throws. So maybe it's much ado about nothing. But

1081
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,159
maybe overnight that risk difference, who knows. Regardless of that.

1082
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,599
Fullerton in the road game in this series got shut

1083
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,480
down by UC Davis. In the home game, they went nuts.

1084
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:43,000
It was a one point game played in the nineties.

1085
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:47,239
On both sides. I am far more apt to play

1086
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:52,519
Fullertin's tempo Fulletin's shooting ability. Santa Barbara to me last

1087
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:55,079
night just left way too many points on the table.

1088
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:57,519
It was not a typical Santa Barbara effort. As far

1089
00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:00,920
as offense is concerned, they've been so efficient offensively all

1090
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,280
year long. Were not that last night. If they had been,

1091
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,559
they might have won that game. But credit you see Davis.

1092
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:09,239
I just don't know that they come back with the

1093
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,880
same type of defensive effort against this tempo, against this

1094
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,239
team that's already proven they can get into the nineties

1095
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,519
against them. So for me, and again this is as

1096
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,159
much a bet on the number as it is. I'm Fullerton,

1097
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:24,119
which of course is a big West pace team, which

1098
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:27,039
is right up my alley. Seventy seven and a half

1099
00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:28,800
seemed low, Adam, I thought it would be up in

1100
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,079
maybe eighty and a half range. It's not. I think

1101
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:36,400
that's attributed to UC Davis and their reputation. Can they

1102
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,000
slow these guys down tonight? I'm not so sure. So

1103
00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:42,039
give me Fullerton as the third leg of the parlay.

1104
00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:45,320
Here up and over seventy seven and a half team total.

1105
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: Love it. It spaces the day out nicely. We got

1106
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,880
the parlay is going to take literally all day, so

1107
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,039
hopefully Miami can start it up for us, and then

1108
00:57:57,039 --> 00:57:58,519
we go Middle Tennessee and then we.

1109
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,199
Speaker 2: Go you know, we got a total at Yeah.

1110
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:05,159
Speaker 1: I mean someone's like, Rob is nocturnal. I really never

1111
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:05,840
sleep either.

1112
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: You know. Someone the other day is like, well, how

1113
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:08,719
do you know?

1114
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:11,039
Speaker 1: How are you watching games and stuff when you're always

1115
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:15,280
driving around? I mean I strategically time out when I'm

1116
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,360
gonna drive. But Rob radio broadcasts, if you if you're

1117
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,679
trying to learn, and if you're if you're straight up

1118
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:24,480
going for info, which is what Rob and I are.

1119
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:27,480
You know, info is is more valuable to us than

1120
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:31,280
like getting to like watch ball. In a lot of scenarios,

1121
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,920
the radio broadcasts or where all the info is because

1122
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,119
like you got you know you Usually most schools are

1123
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:41,480
gonna have guys that are dedicated to radio, whereas like

1124
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,360
the national the TV broadcast is just whoever the network

1125
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:46,960
assigned to it.

1126
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: It's not that they don't know the teams they're covering.

1127
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:53,039
Speaker 1: But it's usually like they get in quick note taking

1128
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:55,320
session and then they go do the broadcast, whereas like

1129
00:58:55,719 --> 00:59:00,840
the radio broadcasts or like the degenerate psychos like are

1130
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,800
only following that team and are like living and dying

1131
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,360
on every pick.

1132
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:06,719
Speaker 2: So That's what I do when I'm driving around.

1133
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,199
Speaker 1: I listen to Fau Temple on the radio last night

1134
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:14,480
on the drive, and it's like, you learn a lot more.

1135
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,280
To tune into a radio broadcast sometime for one of

1136
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,400
these teams, and tell me how much more you learn

1137
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:22,360
by the radio broadcast.

1138
00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: That's what I do when I'm driving around in the car.

1139
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: Real quick, for those in the chat, I'll swear by this.

1140
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:31,440
I say it all the time that the people who

1141
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,559
invented the ability to get television on your iPhone are

1142
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:39,360
my heroes, you know, real quick. I've been married now

1143
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,239
for thirty seven it'll be thirty eight years, since nineteen eight.

1144
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,639
There are places at him I would never go married

1145
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:47,800
with my wife. No, we're not going games. We're not

1146
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,400
going now. I go a lot of places because I

1147
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,880
drag that iPhone with me and I can watch games

1148
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,519
no matter where I am. So for those who want

1149
00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:56,920
to know how you do it as you drive, you

1150
00:59:57,039 --> 00:59:59,360
just got two ways. Listen to the radio broadcast or

1151
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,760
bring your iPhone and in tune into one of the

1152
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,280
sixty games that's probably being broadcast on ESPN plus.

1153
01:00:06,039 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, I see everyone in the chat freaking out

1154
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,440
about the parlay being read, it's always gonna be on demand.

1155
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,400
And two, the play is not in the first game

1156
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,960
that's gonna start. So everyone relaxed. We're gonna read the

1157
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,519
parlay right now, the three legs, and I'll do them

1158
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:25,880
in order of time, Okay, which starts at two thirty Eastern,

1159
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,360
so you got two and a half hours. Is gonna

1160
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,960
be Miami Florida plus one and a half. Actually, we'll

1161
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,880
call it plus one. It looks like they've taken a

1162
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,960
little bit of money, So Miami Florida plus one Middle

1163
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Tennessee State money line, whatever that is, I'll put in there,

1164
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:47,559
and I'll calculate the odds off air, and then Fullerton

1165
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:50,920
team total over seventy seven and a half. And that

1166
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,519
one's definitely gonna have some juice attached to it. We'll

1167
01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:58,719
call it minus one fifteen one more time. Miami Florida

1168
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:06,159
plus one Eastern tip, Middle Tennessee State money line, Fullerton

1169
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,239
team total over seventy seven and a half. That is

1170
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,239
your three teamer today, Rob, we're a couple of three

1171
01:01:11,239 --> 01:01:14,400
teamers away from from getting back in the plus. Hopefully

1172
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:18,239
that first one is today. Hopefully you guys enjoy the

1173
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:20,400
show and learn something. If you're looking for the picks,

1174
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:22,280
they're over at wager talk dot com.

1175
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,199
Speaker 2: Have a great day. Everybody will see you in the morning.