1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,359 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live 5 00:00:16,399 --> 00:00:18,719 stream I Daily Show prep with all the links, become 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,399 a patron, go to dpeakclendarshow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,600 your smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so much 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,280 for your support. 10 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:32,079 Speaker 2: Going back to one of the one of my pet 11 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,560 peeves in life is that the government subsidizes a lot 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,880 of things that the free markets should deal with. I mean, 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,880 when I first saw incentives, I thought they were a 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,679 pretty good idea. The more I studied or the more 15 00:00:41,719 --> 00:00:45,280 I realized, it's an insider, good old boy game, and 16 00:00:45,759 --> 00:00:48,600 companies would get incentives to come to a given community 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,000 and compete against family companies that have been there for dozens, 18 00:00:52,119 --> 00:00:55,560 if not longer times, And I just realized that what 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,759 a waste. You don't need it. If you're doing something 20 00:00:57,759 --> 00:00:59,920 great and you make it better, you don't need those subsidies. 21 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:03,880 I was kind of surprised at OilPrice dot Com. I 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,959 was looking at the companies that get the most US subsidies. 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,920 This is not I don't want to belabor this one. 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,040 By the way, if you want to get into the 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,959 conversation here at Newstalk eleven ten ninety nine three WBT, 26 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:16,439 it's seven oh four five seven oh eleven ten, you're 27 00:01:16,439 --> 00:01:17,799 welcome to be a part of it if it's a 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,239 topic that you find interesting here. As we get to 29 00:01:20,239 --> 00:01:23,200 the end of the year, the last Friday of the year, 30 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:25,680 I guess, was what one host said earlier today. I 31 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:27,120 didn't even think of it in terms of that. I 32 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:28,879 was like, it's not the last anything, but I guess 33 00:01:28,879 --> 00:01:30,959 it is the last Friday of the year. Ninety nine 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,319 percent of the year is done, and you know we've 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,760 got till next Wednesday. I guess next Wednesday being the 36 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:40,799 first day of the year, Tuesday, New Year's Eve, and 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,439 you know, to me, I'm at the point in life 38 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:45,840 where I never was a big New Year's fan. To me, 39 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:48,159 it's another day. It's like, you know, Y two K. 40 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,480 I remember that that New Year's not because of anything substantial, 41 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,680 but two reasons. It was because one all the fear 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,319 of the end of the world stuff. Because of the 43 00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:02,280 way computer chips counted and added and couldn't roll over 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,319 or whatever. That was much ado about nothing turned out 45 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:07,280 to be. And I really wasn't over the word. If 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,400 you had an apple, you weren't. But the second thing 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,599 was that it wasn't technically the first year of the 48 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,960 New millennia. Remember the nineteen hundreds was the twentieth century, 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,439 and the last year of the twentieth century was the 50 00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:23,560 year two thousand. The first year of the new century, 51 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,080 new millennia was January first, two thousand and one. But 52 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,159 nobody really cared. I was like, again, the convincing that 53 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,919 nobody really cared about actual truth. That was an epiphany 54 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,240 for me. I mean, I knew it back in the nineties, 55 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,800 and you saw that the way the Bill Clinton it 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,560 depends on which your definition the word is is and 57 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:43,520 the way in which the media just kind of didn't care. 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,199 They cared much later on when it was someone that 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,919 wasn't a Democrat. But when I looked at the house, like, 60 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,240 people don't really care about the truth, but they believe. 61 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,120 They're much more inclined to believe in Bigfoot or you know, 62 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,000 UFO alien abductions, or that the moon landing was faked, 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,280 or the Earth is flat. Then they were to believe. Hey, 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,039 the first day of the New Century was January first, 65 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:11,120 two thousand and one. But alas I digress. So companies 66 00:03:11,199 --> 00:03:14,439 receiving subsidies is one of those things that it's good 67 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:16,919 to be aware of. I don't know that much will change. 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,159 But if you think of the company that had some 69 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:22,400 of the worst news this past year, one of the 70 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,240 company that you could probably think of a number of them, 71 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:27,599 but let's think of one of the worst, the most 72 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,560 damaging news. I don't know that had doors fly off 73 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:34,560 their aircraft, that had engines that didn't worry, that had 74 00:03:34,599 --> 00:03:38,439 all sorts of issues. That would be Boeing. Boeing is 75 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:45,439 the number one recipient of state incentives and fifteen point 76 00:03:45,479 --> 00:03:47,639 five billion. They got three billion in state incentives, but 77 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,719 state in federal fifteen point five billion dollars in subsidy 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,719 value government giving them. So again, did those substance make 79 00:03:57,759 --> 00:03:59,960 them a better better company? I would, I don't know. 80 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,319 I don't think so. I mean, Boeing competes with Grumman 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,719 and Lockheed Martin and these others, but those are government contracts. 82 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:07,919 That's different than being a subsidy. It's different when they're 83 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:10,919 building aircraft for the military, but the private sector side 84 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:13,199 of things, I didn't help them. The next closest was 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,759 about half of that, and that's Intel. And I would think, 86 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,639 is Intel really the leading company with chips these days? 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,800 Not nearly what they were? Ford is Ford leading? I 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,240 mean think about Ford. Ford got seven point seven billion 89 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,879 dollars love Ford, love Ford. And by the way, if 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,920 you have Walt if you call back, please, I'll move 91 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:32,839 you to the front line. We'll get you as soon 92 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:34,920 as you call in. Would love to have you you 93 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,920 give us a callback. Apologies as that one just came through. 94 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:40,800 So Ford GM almost got the same amount of money 95 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,079 as Ford, Micron Amazon. Do you really think Amazon needs subsidies? 96 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,959 Probably built the most robust way of sending stuff to 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,560 you instantly of anyone Texas Instruments, Volkswagens Volkswagon, not even 98 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,680 an American Tesla got you know, and I've always been 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,120 critical of Tesla taking money. Walt Di got two point 100 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:04,639 six billion dollars in subsidies. New Core got two point 101 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,600 six billion dollars in subsidies. Do we really need those things? 102 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:11,360 Excuse me, the subsidies, not the companies. The companies are 103 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:13,399 pretty remarkable. It's going to be interesting to see if 104 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:18,120 Disney can pivot to actually not being so political. So 105 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,040 they get subsidies. Two points that tech and media company 106 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:23,720 gets two point six billion. They continue to promote a 107 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:26,319 DEI agenda in almost all of their forms of entertainment. 108 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,720 We'll see if that comes out. But again, is that 109 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,879 really the role of government or any of those people 110 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:35,120 would say oil companies received much I wish, I mean 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,480 deep sea exploration to find oil. That's but a lot 112 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,720 of what they get. Also is they get a lot 113 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,639 of subsidies for renewables, which also I said the other 114 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,199 day and I stand by it. If government would have 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,600 gotten out of the renewable industries, renewable energy industries, we 116 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,920 would be much further along because anything that government gets into, 117 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,600 there is never an incentive with government incentives to be better. 118 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:01,040 The goal of incentives from a company copany standpoint is 119 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:04,160 to get more incentives, isn't it. It's not to not 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,519 need the incentives. If you have a company and all 121 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:08,199 of a sudden government says I'll give you a billion 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,519 dollars and you're thinking to yourself, Hey, how can I 123 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:13,800 get a billion next year? How can I get a 124 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,600 billion the year? After that, the goal would become, how 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,000 can I stretch this endeavor out in such a way 126 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,879 that I can continue to reap the rewards of those 127 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:27,199 government subsidies. From a government standpoint, you know, these do 128 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:29,600 gooders in government say, hey, look we're helping out. We're 129 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,240 helping change the world. Where maybe we're going to subsidize 130 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,680 windmills and we're going to subsidize solar battery. We're going 131 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,279 to subsidize and it's going to be great and it's 132 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:39,560 going to a brave new world. It doesn't work out 133 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,399 that way. It never works out that way. The subsidies 134 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,360 become an addiction for companies they want, They become focused 135 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,199 on that. So if I can take a one year 136 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,519 project and draw it out to three years and get 137 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,040 subsidies each year, that's the goal. So I still believe 138 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:01,600 solar panels, solar panels and win mills and anything else 139 00:07:01,639 --> 00:07:04,800 that the government subsidized, even evs. I think evs would 140 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,879 be getting four hundred miles to a charge and the 141 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:09,120 batteries would be a half the size if government wasn't 142 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,959 involved in it. And I can give you a vivid 143 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:14,600 example of that, and people who've listened to me for 144 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,319 a long time. And I don't mean to belaevor this, 145 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:19,959 but eye surgeries. If you look at how far we've 146 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,480 come in eye surgery, it is star trek. It is 147 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:27,120 a star trek world because what you can do now 148 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,839 with eyes and lenses and correctives, with lasers and all 149 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:36,000 this other tech, it isn't subsidized, and so it's become better, faster, better, better, 150 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:38,040 better better. I mean, you've got people with you know, 151 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:41,920 twenty twenty vision that are eighty years old. Now you're 152 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,240 curing blindness in a record way. You're you're getting technology 153 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,639 that's building a way to bypass even the eye to 154 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,360 create digital vision. This is because of innovation and tech. 155 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:56,560 It's not because of subsidies. 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You know, the ultimate ethical 185 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,679 debate is if something happened to you, which one of 186 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,279 those two animals would be one would care less? I 187 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:44,200 still would say the cats would. I think the cat. 188 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,200 You know, as long as someone changed the litter and 189 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,440 fed it, you die, the cat would probably just chill, Yo, 190 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:52,639 what's up? Long as I get some attention, I'm good. 191 00:09:53,639 --> 00:09:55,879 The dog. You know, you have dogs that will mourn. 192 00:09:56,039 --> 00:09:58,240 They literally will mourn for their owners. I don't know. 193 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:00,679 That's probably not a survival of the speed thing, but 194 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,039 it's true. And which animal would be more likely to 195 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,080 eat you if you died? I still think it's cats. 196 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,799 I think cats are just like you know what eyes 197 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,919 looks like. Food looks like food to me, it's not 198 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,360 moving as long as it's not you know. Of course, 199 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,519 cats are picky enough. If you're dead long enough, they 200 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:23,159 won't obviously, But I think it's the cat. But this story, 201 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:25,679 since we intrigued our traffic GUYE on our high tech 202 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,200 biotech robodogs, we'll run with that one right now. And 203 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,879 it's not going to become strange to you. But if 204 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:38,279 you were to think of all the animals that share 205 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,559 space with us and live lifestyles in many ways similar 206 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,320 to us. There isn't another animal out there like the dog. 207 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:49,159 I mean, you know, your cockroaches and mice, they kind 208 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,960 of live. They don't habitate with you then like you 209 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,039 want them around. So when you're studying, well, if you 210 00:10:54,039 --> 00:10:56,720 were to try to increase the lifespan of a given animal, 211 00:10:56,759 --> 00:10:58,279 what animal would it be. It's not gonna be mice. 212 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:00,000 It's not gonna be rabbit. It's not gonna be squirrel. 213 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:04,559 It's gonna be the dog. Those caneines, man, those those 214 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,840 crafty cane eines that have found away over the past 215 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:09,039 thirty five sixty five thousand years to say, you know, 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,600 these humans are going places, we're gonna tag along. Good 217 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,200 for us, you know, other than the animal shelters. By 218 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,799 the way, go adopt a dog, great cats from a shelter. 219 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,720 It's it's a beautiful thing. But generally speaking, survival of 220 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:24,480 the species hanging out with humans has worked out pretty 221 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,519 well for dogs and cats. Dogs more so. 222 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: So. 223 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,159 Speaker 2: That being said, you know, this is a story from 224 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:34,200 over the Guardian and it is not for nothing. Are 225 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,399 dogs called man's best friend. They are good for their 226 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:40,240 owner's mental and physical health. A little advice for you 227 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,240 young uns out there. For you single folks, many studies 228 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,159 have shown that if you are looking for a date 229 00:11:45,159 --> 00:11:48,840 and you're not swiping left and swiping right, you might 230 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:51,879 want to get a dog because studies show that people 231 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,480 with a dog look more attractive to perspective mates. So 232 00:11:56,519 --> 00:11:58,039 it may bee ad time to grab one of those 233 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,279 canine companions could make you more attractive. So what would 234 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,559 it be like, and I'm gonna say something, if dogs 235 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,000 could live forever? Or what if that secret could help 236 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:11,919 their owners live longer and healthier lives. Honey, you'd be 237 00:12:11,919 --> 00:12:14,360 looking at your dog a little different, wouldn't you. A 238 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,879 number of companies are now finding common ground between the 239 00:12:17,879 --> 00:12:21,759 two goals. Early next year, a company called Loyal great 240 00:12:21,879 --> 00:12:24,799 name for a dog related company and a Loyal, a 241 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,200 US biotech startup, is confident that it will bring LOYDH 242 00:12:29,399 --> 00:12:34,559 two Loy two, a daily beef flavored pill to market 243 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,320 that could give dogs a minimum of one year of 244 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,960 healthy life extra, an extra year of health to make 245 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,000 a dog at least extended. Now think about that, sus 246 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:46,960 for twenty years, BEYU thirty five percent and a lot 247 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,039 of dogs may make it around ten to fifteen, so 248 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,960 you're talking about ten percent seven ten percent. The San 249 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Francisco based firm has raised one hundred and twenty five 250 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:57,480 million dollars in funding from companies who have held back 251 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:01,679 from investing in human longevity project because of the decades 252 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,840 those trials take a dog trail much shorter. You don't 253 00:13:04,879 --> 00:13:09,080 have as much FD, not as much government regulation. Fascinating 254 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:12,240 that your canine friends can cut through the red tape. 255 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,679 They don't have to gnaw through it either. So the 256 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,080 San Francisco based firm, Salina Holoya, founder and chief executive 257 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,480 of Loyal, which is part of Cellular Longevity, a biotech 258 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:25,120 firm researching the science of longevity, believes their work will 259 00:13:25,159 --> 00:13:28,840 benefit humans. Finding out how to prevent canine age related 260 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:31,159 decline is a really strong proxy for doing the same 261 00:13:31,159 --> 00:13:35,799 with humans, because well, dogs similar They age, get age 262 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:38,840 related diseases like we do. They share our environments, they 263 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,200 have habits like we do. Lab mice ston't. The pill 264 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:46,600 aims to blunt and reverse metabolic changes associated with aging. 265 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:50,120 It reduces frailty by curbing age related increases in insulin. 266 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:54,600 We're not making immortal dogs. Hallua says. The way the 267 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:58,200 drug extends lifespan. We hypothesizes by extending health and thus 268 00:13:58,279 --> 00:14:02,159 shortening the rate of aging, the same goal. Another company, 269 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,360 not just this company, the next company, in another bi laboratory, 270 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,960 nine hundred miles across America, there's a team of academic 271 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,039 researchers feverishly testing the impact of ramp of mysin. Now, 272 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,879 ramp of Myson's not in this story, but it's an 273 00:14:14,879 --> 00:14:19,639 interesting thing because I love reading useless scientific papers and stuff. 274 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,679 It was discovered on Easter Island, if I'm not mistake. 275 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:24,279 It was discovered some time ago, I think back in 276 00:14:24,279 --> 00:14:26,919 the fifties. But they're now finding that this ramp of 277 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:32,279 mycin is very useful in age related human stuff, and 278 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,000 so they're going to apply it to dogs. And I 279 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:37,519 just remember the story from a while back about when 280 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:40,159 it was discovered, and now we're finding this one place 281 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,559 on the planet. It was discovered and now we're using it. 282 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:45,159 It's a cheap, it's easily produced drug that also commonly 283 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,879 used as an immunosuppressant for humans after organ transplants. It 284 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:51,879 has repeatedly been shown to increase lifespan and delay or 285 00:14:51,919 --> 00:14:55,720 even reverse many age related disorders in mice. While the 286 00:14:55,799 --> 00:14:59,360 drug has not been approved for longevity and humans. Many 287 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,120 petologists nevertheless se it is the best hope we have 288 00:15:02,159 --> 00:15:06,480 for pharmacologically slowing down the aging process. The Dog Aging 289 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:10,039 a head logs love this. The Dog Aging Project Process project, 290 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,120 first large scale longitudinal study of large animals in a 291 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,519 natural environment, suggests that low doses of rampaisin could increase 292 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:21,919 dog's lifespan, improving heart cognitive functions by regulating south growth 293 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,840 of metabolism. Imagine if now I happen to be you 294 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,159 know of the sci fi things, be wary of things 295 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,320 that look too good to be true. You start breeding dogs, 296 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,440 and all of a sudden they get smarter than you are. 297 00:15:34,159 --> 00:15:36,159 Our study is light years ahead of anything that's been 298 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,519 done on humans and can be done on humans. Daniel 299 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,320 Promise Glow says, as biogerontologists at the University of Washington 300 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:44,440 and co director, what we're doing is the equivalent of 301 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,639 a forty year long study on humans testing the ability 302 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:51,919 of a jug drugged increase human life spans. When the 303 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,559 find the project finally reports in four to five years time, 304 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,759 they hope to be able to prove that rampam issin 305 00:15:56,879 --> 00:15:59,519 has the power to give dogs an extra three years 306 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:03,360 of healthyerth life three and then you can cross that 307 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,240 over to humans and do the same thing. It would 308 00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:07,279 be rather remarkable. The goal of science now needs to 309 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:09,840 be to agree on the parameters, and then the work 310 00:16:09,879 --> 00:16:14,240 could yield very exciting results for everybody involved. Imagine that. 311 00:16:15,039 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, real quick, if you would like to 312 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,840 get your product or service in front of about ten 313 00:16:19,879 --> 00:16:22,799 thousand people multiple times a day, send me an email 314 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,080 at Pete at the Petecalndarshow dot com and ask me 315 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,519 about advertising. It's super affordable, it's baked into this podcast forever, 316 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:33,320 and podcasts have a higher conversion rate than other social 317 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:35,960 media platforms, making it the best bang for your buck. 318 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,600 Send me a message Pete at Thepetecalndarshow dot com and 319 00:16:39,639 --> 00:16:41,320 I can show you how it works. Run the numbers 320 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,399 with you again. That's Pete at the Petecalndarsshow dot com. 321 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: It was agreeing with my comment about cats and dogs, 322 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:52,159 and I had heard this is anecdotal. I've had similar 323 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,600 anecdotes from friends talking about someone who worked in a 324 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:58,279 corner's office and they said absolutely every time someone passed 325 00:16:58,279 --> 00:17:00,639 away and they had to go discover the the cats 326 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:03,919 has started eating the owner and the holmes with dogs. 327 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,519 All the dogs were either lying with their owners, the 328 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:08,920 several had starved death and exception of some that tore 329 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,720 through windows and doors to go alert people to what 330 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:15,880 was going on. Ye. Hey, cats are primitive critters, elite. Hey, 331 00:17:16,039 --> 00:17:17,839 they just kill for fun. How many of you have 332 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,400 cats and you've seen them like kill the neighborhood birds 333 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,640 and just leave them at your doorset Like, yo, look 334 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,279 what I did. Here's a bird. See, I'm a supreme hunter. 335 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:29,039 Feed me. Now. They won't eat the bird. They just 336 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,720 kill for fun. They're just massively evolved killing machines. And 337 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:35,319 it sounds like I'm not a fan of cats. I 338 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,440 admire them. I love seeing them in the wild, not 339 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,240 the not feral cats, but actually wildcats, panthers, cougars, pumas 340 00:17:42,279 --> 00:17:46,119 kuwaitis not kuwaitis, but all sorts of critters out there 341 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:51,960 and it ocelots, leopards. Yeah, So it amazes me that 342 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:55,000 people think these things are are not what they are. 343 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,799 They're just looking at you figuring crap out all the time. 344 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,240 So and as far as the dog's extending life and stuff, 345 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,759 I think that's remarkable. I remember I had a dog Unfortunately, 346 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:09,359 years ago, wonderful, amazing border Collie mix that ended up 347 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,960 getting cancer and going to NC State, you know, a 348 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,519 university that was on the cutting edge of veterinary science 349 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,160 and treating the dogs, ended up seeing amount of money. 350 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,079 Shouldn't have done that, but it was remarkable that the 351 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,240 cancer my dog had. This is kind of a twist 352 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,279 of fate thing. The cancer my dog had was a 353 00:18:28,319 --> 00:18:31,599 non Hodgkinson foma type years ago, was about eighty five 354 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,720 percent fatal. At that time. They were using all sorts 355 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,680 of techniques and everything to extend his life. They did 356 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,720 a good job of that, but it ultimately they couldn't 357 00:18:39,759 --> 00:18:42,039 cure it at that point in time. But the researchers, 358 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,480 the research they were involved in not only led to 359 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,960 breakthroughs and now that particular cancer in dogs is almost 360 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:56,000 ninety plus percent curable in dogs, but furthermore, it that 361 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,559 technological advancement led to humans and my mother was able 362 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:02,680 to who ended up with the same kind of cancer 363 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:04,559 my dog had and was cured of that cancer. That's 364 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:07,319 not what killed her, but it was remarkable that she 365 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,920 became cancer free. And some of that traced back to 366 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,720 the kind of scientific inquiry in dogs on that type 367 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:20,880 of cancer. So I love the evolution of of of 368 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,759 medical study. If the government could help get out of 369 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:29,519 the way in some regards. I think in many opportunities 370 00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:32,839 to cure and make things better, we get it gets 371 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:36,039 things get in the way, and that is an unfortunate 372 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,039 reality there. Now, if you want to get in on 373 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,079 the conversation, feel free to do so. Seven oh four 374 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,519 five seven eleven ten five sevenh eleven ten, And I 375 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,160 need to well get people. There's people that text in. 376 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:50,839 Then there's then there's the cause. We're going to say, hey, Chad, 377 00:19:50,839 --> 00:19:52,720 you got a call, so you're welcome to be a 378 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,319 part of the show today. I do want to get 379 00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:56,480 to one. So one of the other subjects as we 380 00:19:56,519 --> 00:19:58,920 get to the top of the hour is that we 381 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:05,440 kind of we live in a greening world. The kind 382 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,359 of measurement of what the human impact is versus just 383 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,799 the way the planet is aging and the way the 384 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:16,640 way it works, that's a difficult needle to thread for scientists. 385 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,920 There are there are legitly, legitimately brilliant scientists out there 386 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,559 that are going through this field of inquiry and are 387 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:26,799 not distracted by the narrative of Greta Thunberg, who's telling 388 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:29,559 them that all of it is due to humans. We 389 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:32,400 actually have more Arctic sea ice cover now at this 390 00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:34,799 point than we did in twenty twelve. You'd have to say, well, 391 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:37,240 if it's linear, why would that be the case. We've 392 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,279 had times when Antarctic sea ice extent grows and extends, 393 00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:41,920 and you'd have to say, well, if it's linear, how 394 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,319 can that be. If it's linear, then it should always 395 00:20:44,319 --> 00:20:46,480 be less less less. There shouldn't be these anomalous a 396 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:50,519 couple of years where it goes back to amazing. That 397 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,400 being said, if the goal is to understand there are 398 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,640 some realities we are in a greening world, what is that? 399 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,160 What part of that is due to the oscillation of 400 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,920 the planet, the sun and all the other things that 401 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,920 have kept us a living, breathing, biological miracle for millions 402 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,720 of years, And what of it is? Oh, I'm sorry, 403 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,839 I fired up the suv and drove down the road. 404 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,200 And one group has said there's only one way this 405 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,440 could be, and it negates anything that would disagree with that. 406 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:22,160 Now they want to tell you that all of this 407 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,519 climate change stuff is killing people. It's killing oh, it's 408 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:30,039 making islands disappear. They haven't it's making storms more powerful. 409 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:32,759 It's not, it's making them more frequent. Well, we actually 410 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:34,799 had fewer storms this year, just happened to be two 411 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,519 horrific news related ones. They're not more powerful, by the way, 412 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,279 the ones that hit were not more powerful. So what 413 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,119 is every and whenever there's a wildfire, it's always caused 414 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,880 by that. It's never that someone didn't have proper forestry 415 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,599 management or someone threw a match out, but it's always 416 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,920 humans made it worse. But if you look at some 417 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,960 facts out there, what kills a lot of people that 418 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,440 we don't talk about is that the coal cold weather 419 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,079 kills people. And Gizmoto has a great article over there 420 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:08,799 on their site. Even as the climate warms, the cold 421 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,640 is becoming a deadlier threat to Americans. New research this 422 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,559 month shows that cold related deaths have significantly increased in 423 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:18,440 the US over the past two decades. You would go, why, 424 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,079 why would more people be dying in a greening world. 425 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,319 Researchers at Harvard Medical School conducted the study, which aim 426 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,440 to better count the death's called by cold temperatures. They 427 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,039 found that the country's cold related mortality rate has more 428 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:35,240 than doubled since the late nineteen nineties, with deaths especially 429 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:38,440 increasing in recent years. Important risk factors for the rise 430 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,240 and deaths likely include extreme weather events ah tied to 431 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:45,960 climate change. So now you hear that in that narrative 432 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:51,279 right there, that climate change made people dive cold. You 433 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,960 thought otherwise extreme weather events, homelessness and social isolation, researchers say, Now, 434 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,839 I would say, let's take climate change out of it 435 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,599 for a minute, but absolutely homelessness. And yet there's tons 436 00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:05,799 of infrastructure to help folks with that, and it's not working, 437 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,240 these government programs. So if these government programs are so successful, 438 00:23:09,319 --> 00:23:12,000 why is homelessness? Why are people that are homeless dying 439 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:15,839 of cold? Social isolation we've seen that with the advent 440 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,720 with technology increasing. The more technology, you would think it 441 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:22,079 makes the social fabric better, but actually people are more 442 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,599 isolated than ever before, So social isolation lonness. We know 443 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,920 that social isolation increases the likelihood of dementia. We also 444 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,079 know that hearing loss contributes to dementia. So the way 445 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:36,279 in which you hurt humans more as you isolate the 446 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,880 more extreme temperatures on either end of the thermometer can 447 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,240 be life threatening. While recent research has shown that heat 448 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,039 related deaths have risen in recent decades. Cold weather tends 449 00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:49,400 to be deadlier in general. A twenty twenty one study 450 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,920 found that the cold was responsible for about three fourths 451 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,720 of extreme temperature deaths worldwide. That's an estimated one point 452 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,960 seven million deaths over all that year due to cold 453 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,400 three quarters. Now, you're in a warming world, but three 454 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,839 quarters of the people who died and weather related issues 455 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,880 frozen well died with respect to the cold, some being 456 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,359 frozen to death. The Harvard researchers note that related deaths 457 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,200 in the US have been studied only minimally. Why we've 458 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,880 spent billions studying warm weather, haven't we We've spent billions 459 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,000 and billions producing windmills and solars and doing everything in 460 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,240 the world related to climate, but you're not looking at 461 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:31,079 the humans that are dying due to cold weather. To 462 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,920 address the knowledge gap, researchers at Harvard analyzed death certificate 463 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:39,319 data collected by the CDC, focusing specifically on deaths where 464 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,839 cold was recorded. Between ninety nine and twenty twenty two, 465 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:45,079 there were over forty thousand cold related deaths in the 466 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,079 US forty thousand, and adjusting for age, they found that 467 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,119 the mortality rate had risen from less than half of 468 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,759 a cold related death per one hundred thousand to almost 469 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,480 a full person per thousand in twenty twenty two. That 470 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,400 but we don't spend a lot of time looking at that, 471 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,960 do we, because it doesn't fit a narrative that Wait 472 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,359 a minute, more people are dying of cold. But then 473 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,480 you say, well, it's climate change. Climate change is causing it. 474 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:13,279 That's causing the people that die of cold. Remember, we 475 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,599 weren't supposed to have snow now, and all the southern 476 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,720 ski resorts we're supposed to have been bankrupt by now. 477 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,240 But alas that narrative didn't work out as well. Greta 478 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,240 told us in twenty eighteen that we had five years 479 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,480 for it was over, and here we are seven years later. Steve, 480 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:31,279 you've been holding. Welcome to the program, whatever you're ready 481 00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:32,720 to talk about. What's on your brain today? 482 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: Hey, how are you today? 483 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:36,839 Speaker 2: Fantastic? 484 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,039 Speaker 3: Good? I got a couple of questions. Three of them 485 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,440 deal with the same topic. I'll hit those with you 486 00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:49,000 real quick. If that's okay with you, got it. 487 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,839 Speaker 2: I'll try it. I'll try to help three. It's like 488 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:52,400 an interview. 489 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,079 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, they all deal with the same topic, 490 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:02,960 which is taxes. But you mentioned earlier, if I got 491 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,079 this right, that illegals that have gotten a four year 492 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,440 degree that I think you said Trump was considering giving 493 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,519 them a green card. 494 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:15,039 Speaker 2: No, no, no, not illegals, well, not illegals, people that were 495 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,079 here legally earning a degree. He wanted to give those 496 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:20,240 people the opportunity to work here as well. They weren't 497 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:23,000 illegally here. They were here legally, is what he's referred to. 498 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that strikes that question. The second one is 499 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,920 you flip the page here. We've heard all this back 500 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,200 and forth about deporting the illegals, and the Democrats are 501 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,880 it's going to cost us so many billions we can't 502 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:48,160 afford to do it. I just simply reject that claim, because. 503 00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: If we get them out of here, then. 504 00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: We saved tens of billions of dollars providing for them. 505 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,920 So I don't I'll see where that could be an 506 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,440 absolute positive benefit to the country and US taxpayers to 507 00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:07,319 get them out. And so wanted your thoughts on that. 508 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:11,279 And the other one is you talked about subsidies for 509 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,839 like for Word and other companies like that, and what 510 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,519 really aggravates me about that is I owned my company 511 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,839 for thirty nine years, and I never got one dime 512 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,880 from the government to help me keep my business growing 513 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,119 or profiting or afloat if it was in a downtime. 514 00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:31,039 I never got a dime from them. Why in the 515 00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:35,519 world should we give our tax dollars away to companies 516 00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:38,839 that are in business for themselves like I was. They 517 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,160 need to figure it out on their own, not with 518 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,400 our money bailing them out. So that's my second one, 519 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:52,440 and the third one wherever I put it. No, you 520 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:53,720 took care of the first one. 521 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: So I'm impressed, and you took all those notes. Man, 522 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,920 I appreciate the call. Well, Steve, So, Steve, I'll get 523 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,160 to your questions. I don't know what happened there, but nonetheless, 524 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,799 so the first question we dealt with Trump was referring 525 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:09,960 to people who were here legally achieving a degree, and 526 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,960 that maybe achieving that degree in America they could give 527 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,920 back in some way by being a part of the workforce. 528 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,400 The deporting versus staying. I mean, George will wrote a 529 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,640 column about this back in the nineties about the logistics 530 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,200 of moving just at the time, I think it was 531 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,640 just three or four or five million folks and the 532 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,720 logistics of that are ginormous, whether you fly him or 533 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,319 take them by bus or where do you take them to. 534 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000 But the countries that from whence they came, have to 535 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,680 assume some responsibility for them as well. Trump talks about 536 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,680 this when he talks about Venezuela and other South of 537 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,319 Central South American countries that he's dealing with. I do 538 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:44,759 think it's important to move that. I mean, we've got to. 539 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,400 There's got to be a distance because it has to 540 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,119 stop it if people know they're going to be removed 541 00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:51,400 if they come here, it will slow down and it 542 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,880 will help protect the border. So it has to be done. 543 00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:57,200 And he is correct. There is an upside to you know, 544 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720 you're not having to subsidize hotel rooms, you're not having 545 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,200 a sub thatize insurance and snap programs and you know, 546 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:06,119 nutritional aid all these, So yes, there's a net savings. 547 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,599 He's correct on that one. And the third one about incentives, 548 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,359 he's right, and it is not applied equally to all. 549 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,839 It is kind of a rig system. And at the 550 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,000 local level when you see these incentives doled out, the 551 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:20,319 grants used to a local government would say hey, we'll 552 00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:22,720 give you x amount of money if you bring in 553 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:25,240 X amount of jobs, and they realize that it's illegal, 554 00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:27,640 and so what they did, they can't call it a rebate, 555 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880 so they started calling them grants, and they aren't applied equally. 556 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,720 And it is a significant problem, whether it's the local 557 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,640 or at the national level. Why government ever got involved 558 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,200 in picking winners and losers. It just isn't the role 559 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,880 of government. But I appreciate the call, Steve. Thank you, 560 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,000 So with us now a Bill, welcome to the broadcast. 561 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,200 How the heck are you this afternoon? 562 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:48,759 Speaker 3: It's time is why. 563 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm Bill and Mark from Wilmington. 564 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: Good to hear your voice on the radio again. 565 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,759 Speaker 2: Well, thank you Bill. Bill. Oh, Bill had something about 566 00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:00,480 climate change. I think Bill, if you got disconnected, please God. 567 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,319 I think it was on the road and someone maybe 568 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,559 starlink got him. I'm kidding. Elon's on our side. So Bill, 569 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,519 if you happen to still be listening, and thank you 570 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:15,079 from listening from Wilmington, one of my former wonderful time 571 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:18,319 on radio, you know places, So I appreciate that. So Bill, 572 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:20,039 if you if you get back in, just kick him 573 00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:23,200 back in there. And to the other point that the 574 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:26,319 color that did stay around. So Steve, you know, it 575 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,720 is daunting to think of how would you think about 576 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,480 the population of North Carolina if you wanted to take 577 00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:34,680 the entire population just over ten between ten and eleven 578 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,599 million and deport them to other countries around the world. 579 00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:42,200 The logistics behind it. Just imagine taking every man, woman 580 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,559 and child from Charlotte and trying to move them. And 581 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:48,039 that's just a smattering of the number of people that 582 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:50,680 we're talking about. So then take the geography of North 583 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,440 Carolina and expand it to the full size of the 584 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,920 continental US, and you realize how daunting that is. 585 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,079 Speaker 1: Now. 586 00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: I think Tom Holman's the right guy for the job. 587 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,799 I mean, he's clearly, you know, absolutely under He is 588 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,480 focused in a way that we see rarely with government appointees. 589 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,039 He knows his mission, he wants to do it. The 590 00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:12,519 Border Control wants to be valued. They want they got 591 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:16,000 into the border Border Control made that decision for their 592 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,920 career path, and imagine now they finally have people that 593 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,759 are going to support what they're doing in the mission 594 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:23,359 and what they originally got in it for. Uh, it's 595 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,599 not gonna be easy. It's gonna take way longer than 596 00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,279 four years. But the number one thing that Tom Holman 597 00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:31,599 is saying, and it is a disincentive for people to 598 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,119 try to get across that border. If we if you 599 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,119 know that there are going to be consequences for coming across, 600 00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:39,599 people will stop or at least slow down, or it 601 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,240 will diminish a great deal. So that's number one. Number 602 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,119 two its sec securing the border and having more processing centers. 603 00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:49,319 Number three is finding out who is here illegally, and 604 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,720 that's going to be a daunting, ginormous task. And then uh, 605 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:55,240 they're going to start with the criminals. It's going to 606 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,119 be easier to start with the criminal element, the ones 607 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,960 that are in our system that we can find, trck down, 608 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,640 get those out immediately, and work backwards from there. But 609 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,920 there's it's just hard to fathom it ten to eleven 610 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,920 million plus immigrants across the country and how to get 611 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,640 them back to their country of origin. And that's that's huge. 612 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,599 There's just no easy way to do that, and it 613 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,640 would take it's going to take a decade or more. 614 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: All Right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 615 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,519 so much for listening. I could not do the show 616 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,039 without your support and the support of the businesses that 617 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,240 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 618 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,920 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 619 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,559 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 620 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,279 go to dpetcleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much 621 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:47,759 for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.