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does what it does. And today's also quote unquote no
King's day. So who wants to start?
Speaker 3: Come on, d you got this one fired off, let's go.
Speaker 4: Well, uh, of course there's an airline disaster right before
we do the show, because that's just what happens. But
it's gonna get worse, fellas, It's gonna get worse. That's
all I have to say about the Air India thing.
Speaker 1: Is that another Air India crash? Does it just happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Like two days ago there was a flight okay flight
to London. Right after it took off, it looks like
there was double engine failure and then Jeff fuel might
not steal beams, but it makes a dandy fireball when
you crash with a full plane.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I think it said something like there
was like one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty
nine Indian Indian citizens and another seventy five Brits, which
that means that they're all Indian. Yeah that was nice
because yeah, there are there any Brits left? Jump in anyone?
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Jose, I mean, like, I don't know
what to tell you. It's not gonna get better, Like
you're gonna get to the point where flying is gonna
be back to the sort of risks he took in
the twenties and thirties, where a commercial plane, you know,
had but not an unreasonable chance of not making it
to your destination. So you're gonna have to start weighing
that whether or not it's worth flying or not, especially
internationally on certain airlines.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of things seem to be coming to
a head this week with the whole Astro Turf no
Kings protests and then the shit that's jumping off in
the Middle East. Yeah, I think we could be in
for a really nasty Suez crisis moment for the United States,
where if the United States comes out on the wrong
end of it, not only is its like imperial projectretty
much going to be on the back foot for a
long time, but also we could be seeing the first
like well actually know, like the next stage in the
socioeconomic decline of the US, not just from like the
generic per capita GDP figures, but also just quality of
life infrastructure not functioning in all of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we finally run out of civilizational capital.
I mean it's pretty obvious now at this point that
high trust has been gone for quite some time, and
it's there's no sign of it coming back in any
kind of large scale movement. We're just way too fractured.
I think the inertia that we've made use of for
so long, the civilizational fumes we've been running on, they're
just they're obviously out now, they're obviously out. There's just
violence in pretty much every city at this point. I
think what stuns me the most about everything that I'm
witnessing these days is I find it hard to believe
that there were more and greater and deeper differences in
this country in eighteen sixty and eighteen sixty one than
there are right now. I really find that almost impossible
to believe, because I just don't see any kind of
common ground anywhere. And I think that's one of the
horrors of our times is in order to find any
kind of common ground, you've now got to go to
the internet. It's so hard to even find people in
your local area. We're just so fractured. The only thing
that is understandable for me from an age.
Speaker 2: Work I spent it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, please good.
Speaker 1: As gonna say we're really at Like, I can give
you some parallels to the Spanish Civil War just from
recently Reconquista. There are parts of Spain that were, you know,
they wanted to break away, anarchist, you know. The The
only problem with the Reconquista here is they're like, oh,
this this used to block to Mexico. You know this
was ours, know that belonged to Spain. I'm sorry, they're Europeans,
You're not. You cannot handle civilization, you cannot handle governance.
That's why you have a Jew as a president, and
that's why the cartels are running things. Also, you have
politicians being assassinated now for not voting for health care
for migrants. Yeah, I'm always I'm always torn over politician's
getting assassinated because unfortunately, in the world we live in,
that is just something that is going is a is
something that you have to worry about.
Speaker 4: They literally voted for this, though, I mean, aren't they
Jewish democrats from Minnesota? Like like, this is what you
voted for.
Speaker 2: You voted for, you.
Speaker 4: Voted for violence, you voted for there no not being
any rules any longer. I mean no rules means no rules.
This is not that this is not the game I
wanted to play. This is not something that I thought
would be a great idea. But these people are the
ones who voted for no rules. So you're getting what
you asked for when you when you turned the occupying
government turned our country into a pollt imperial mess where
everyone else lives off the labor and capital social, social, political, religious,
moral capital of the white European And they've just taken
from us to the point where we don't have any
extra and now you're you're getting to deal with the consequences, Like,
can you name a single major issue in the in
America today from drugs to crime to I mean foreign
policies and mass we'll talk about that, but you know,
like this is all downstream of Jewish occupation.
Speaker 3: Well, when you ask for but yeah, when you say
they voted for no rules, I mean, that's that's the
worst part of it. You're you're exactly correct, that is
what they voted for, because they don't want what they
thought they were voting for. I suspect what they thought
they were voting for was no restrictions. They can just
do whatever they want when they want. And I understand
where you're coming from. Where you're saying they voted for
no rules. But I'm being pedantic here for a very
specific reason. I think they voted for no restrictions because
they don't understand that civilization requires restrictions, it requires rules,
and they can't differentiate the two. They just think I
can do whatever I want and the magic will still happen.
Because and it's a very in a way, it's a
very feminine way of thinking, like things just happen. We
just have phones, we just have planes, we just have electricity.
It's like, no, no, we don't. I mean, well, the
argument could be made we do have electricity, but I
mean harnessed electricity. No we don't. Those things have to
be crafted. Those things have to be built. Those things
have to be manufactured. And most of all, d to
bang a drum that you've been drumming since since I
met you, that takes work, that takes time, and most
of all, that takes your big word, maintenance. These things
don't just fall from the sky. And not only do
they not just fall from the sky, they have to
be maintained. It's one thing if the Lord drops manna
from heaven and feeds you. It's another if the Lord
drops cell phones and you still have to maintain the network.
You still have to you know, recharge the battery, et cetera.
So I think, to me, that's really what the sticking
point is. These people just are not They are constitutionally
incapable of understanding that these things require maintenance, and that's
why everything is falling apart. They are not magic, But
we've imported cargo cult cultures that think that if they
just make a wicker basket look like an airplane, it'll fly.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've we've basically been under occupation by a
group that doesn't you know, they have no loyalties but
to themselves, and even most of them don't have what
would slit each other's throats for power and for influence,
so it doesn't really matter, you know. I've been going
over the book Against Our Better Judgment by Alison Weir
on my sub stack and keeping it private. I released
a few episodes publicly, but it's just, I mean, it's
one of those books where you read it and you're like,
it's one of those books people reading like, oh, this
is just conspiracy theories. It's like, no, they had two
like radical Zionists, Supreme Court judges in like the twenties
and thirties, they had secret societies where Jews and Gentiles
had to swear an oath of allegiance to them, even
over their own families. That means over their own country too.
And you know, ever since World War Two, which is there,
you know, what they needed in order to get what
they wanted. You know, this country in the Middle East
that they refuse to go to, everything's fallen apart. And I,
you know, I have a tendency to be one of
those people who believes that civilizations are either going to
all civilizations are going to fail, or they're going to
have transition. They're going to have transition phases. I think
this is a transition phase and we'll come out on
the other side better. But you know, we need to
understand that we we've basically we've been run by people.
They've run our banking, in our institutions and academia and
our entertainment and everything for you know, close to eighty
years now. And until we get past that, until we
decide we decide that we're not going to allow that,
until we decide that we're going to become like them,
and we're going to organize and be insular and not
let other people in. This isn't going to be defeated
because politics isn't going to solve it. There is no
great man coming to save us. No great man is
going to come and save a multi cultural.
Speaker 2: Something.
Speaker 1: The only great men you've seen in the past who've
come to save anything have come to save monocultures. There's
no great man coming to save us.
Speaker 4: Not only is there no great man even if he
wanted to, like Donald Trump, could have been a great man,
but he let these his I don't know if he's
on the Epstein plane and there's pictures of him with
twelve year old girls, or he's just a file assemi
or just a boomer or what.
Speaker 1: I think those pictures. I think those pictures would have came.
The Democrats would have released those pictures in the last
four years.
Speaker 2: I tend to.
Speaker 1: Believe that if they existed, they'd be well.
Speaker 4: Regardless, right, the correct response from Donald Trump, if he'd
actually listen to his and done what he wanted to
do or done done the right thing, would have been,
you know, like, we're we're not supporting Israel John Aside
in Gaza. We're not supporting you know, we're not giving
them money to blow up Iranian kids. We're not giving
them money to blow up Russian kids.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know that they would have cut off the funding,
they would have stopped all that immediately and said stop
this senseless killing and stop the war. But Donald Trump,
you know, to his everlasting shame, has done what Woodrow
Wilson did, and Dotter what FDR did, and lied about
being a pro peace candidate in order to get ordinary
Americans who retired of seeing you know, specialist John Smith
Parkway because you know, a kid from Kentucky guest to
go get his ass blown off in Middle East again
or something. And did those people voted for him, hoping
he'd stop this, and he's done nothing but lie and
support these people. And now we're on the verge of
World War three. You know, Vladimir Putin is not a
stupid man. Maybe not a nice man, but not a
stupid man. And the same logistical corridor they supply to
forty divisions were the food and materiel from the Caucuses
in World War Two is being threatened right now when
the United States and Israel go to war with Iran.
And you can't threaten him in Ukraine and as though
where that's his main outlet to the world ocean and
his main source of exports, and also threaten Iran, which
is his other way to get you know, up to
the world market, and then expect them to just take
it lying down. Pete, if I threatened to take forty
percent of your money at a swoop, we'd fight. Well,
you can't take forty percent of China's oil that they
get from Iran and expect them to just like sit
there and take it. This is between the war in Ukraine,
which has disturbing, disturbing parallels to the German situation in
nineteen thirty eight, and the you know, attempted destruction of
China with tariffs and sanctions and threatening their energy and
raw materials. Like, we're in the same situation, except we're
on the you know, the other foot this time. And
unlike you know, nineteen forty one, we don't have a
coherent Christian white population where everyone has seven kids to go,
you know, fight the rest of the world and win.
We're in a situation where we have you know, an
insurrection in the southwestern United States and communist plots, I
mean open communists marching in every street in every city
in America. And you're expecting this to go well this time?
Are you completely high? I mean, it's the failure of
people like Lindsey Graham or Donald Trump to read the broom.
It's possibly, I mean, one of the worst failures in
American political history. I mean, this is a disaster waiting
to happen. Because I can tell you right now, you
can't have my boys. My sons are not going to war.
I would rather my sons get their arms chopped off
than go fight in Iran. This is uh and I
know that many men and many other parents feel the
same way. I'm done supporting illegitimate, adventurous wars for Israel.
We've been at worthy in my entire twenty first century
just about and what one of those wars has been
for the United States. We're in the interests of Americans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the.
Speaker 1: We truly just don't have a country anymore. And people
need to get that through their heads. The you know,
I went so far as on the Puny Express live
stream the other day to say our flag now is
a Confederate flag. That's the flag of America, and it
since eighteen sixty five, since eighteen sixty one. It has been.
We don't have a country anymore.
Speaker 2: We are. We're not prisoners here.
Speaker 1: Because we could leave if we want, but we're definitely
we definitely have to treat ourselves like we're occupied.
Speaker 2: Because we are.
Speaker 1: And really the only way to get through this is
people need to start organizing. You know, however that looks
to you, whatever you think is best. And yeah, I
mean I would not at this point. I don't know.
After everything I've seen this week, I can't tell anybody
to go join the military. No, I would say, you know,
if you want to do that, go to law school
or something like that, because you know, our people are
going to need lawyers more more than anything else. Probably
in the future, probably need some people who know how
to fight. But there's enough vets out there who know
exactly exactly what time it is. So yeah, I think
that's where we're at. I think the sooner people realize
that there is no more United States of America and
there's only a nation of people, and the quicker people,
the quicker individuals, will start finding their people.
Speaker 2: That's about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with the sentiment that the Confederate flag
is are is basically our new flag, because the post
World War two order, in my opinion, was probably the
final death blow against what remained of like the so
called historic American nation. It just became the Judeo American
consumer imperium from that point. And now the challenge of
this epoch is to be able to determine who are
their friends and then who are enemies, and build up
a polity that can serve as a launch pad for
an eventual reconquista of the US from all these interlopers,
whether it's the millions of foreign migrants that have been
imported by the ruling class and even the Trees and
his people themselves that have facilitated this. But it's going
to be a slog but it's best to understand that
this Norman Rockwell style of America it's gone. But we
can eventually do better and take back this country. But
it will require us to find out how we got
to this point, who the people who were that orchestrated this,
and continue to undermine what once was a promising pan
European project in the Western hemisphere, and then start to battle,
because frankly, this is not gonna be won by just arguments.
It's gonna be won through blood, sweat and tears. And
that's one of the big realizations that many people are
gonna have to come to grips with. And that means
also dispensing with false idols and assumptions that we've been
conditioned to accept over the years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the four of us can have like disagreements, you know,
we can do politics amongst ourselves or people like us,
like many people people that are members of Old Glory
Club or you're in an active up or something. We
can sit down and we can actually do politics because
we don't existentially have differences that cannot be resolved. Go.
You know, there was most likely if you're in your
any major city, like there was a there was a
note King's protest near you look at those people and
tell me, what can you do politics with them about?
They want to trans kids, they hate you, they hate
white people, they hate America, they hate Western civilization. Well,
what what can you do politics with them about? Right
where where you come to sort of sort of reasonable compromise.
You know, Charles sinks attax it should be twenty five percent,
and I think it should be twenty three percent, and
we compromise in the middle and then settle on twenty
four percent. That's politics. These people want you're dead and
they want trans your kids and think it's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 3: There's there's no where, there's no As I said earlier,
you're exactly right, there's no there's no even hint of
a common ground from which to begin, let alone to
build upon. There's no word even more the bridge, let
alone finish it. And I want to step back to
something you said, Jose, because I think it was excellent.
I agree with all your points that you raised, and
you said moments ago about the Norman Rockwell America, and
you touched on something that I like to point out
because again, I try and be very positive, and I
understand that I don't want people to be delusional, but
I do think we need to hold onto product positivity.
And I understand that you can't go home again. As
they say, the past is the past, and the past
is a foreign country. But look at some of these
old photographs from La Belle epoc, you know, the European
photos from the late nineteenth early twentieth centuries. They aren't painted,
they're photographs, they're real. Look at some of these photographs
from nineteen fifty, you know, the drive through at the
root beer shop. They're real. They're not paintings. Yes, Norman
Rockwell painted a lot of that stuff, but remember he
did draw upon real life. These are real. And if
they're real, what that means is somebody built that, maybe
a whole bunch of somebodies. In fact, millions of somebody's
built that. But it was real, it was tangible, it existed.
These aren't pie in the sky goals like putting a
man on venus or something. Maybe it's possible, maybe it's not,
but nobody's done it yet. But the things you're talking about, hose,
they have been done and they can be done again.
And it may seem like I'm speaking across purposes here
saying that. Oh I just said. You can't go back again.
No you can't, but the past can be a template.
You can take that and go, hey, how about we
build beautiful things again, only we build them better. You
can do that. It's not impossible. Will it take work,
of course, will take a lot of blood. Hey, I'm
the one that Pete kindly retweeted recently about blood. You
know I believe me if anybody knows, I know, yes, absolutely,
But is it possible one hundred percent what one man did,
another man can redo maybe even better.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we can talk about, oh, Israel attacked around,
we can talk about no King's protests, we can talk
about politicians getting assassinated, But when it comes down to it,
what we're really talking about is starting over. And it's
important to know what's going on around you for op
sect purposes, for safety purpose, you know, yeah, you just
you have to know that stuff. But I think at
this point it's more important to know who you are
and what you are and what you believe?
Speaker 2: You know? Are you this? You know?
Speaker 1: Do you do you believe in God? Do you believe
in Christ? Are you a Christian? What are you when
it comes to what do you believe in? When it
comes to the metaphysical? Okay, what's your ideology? Do you
have an ideology at this point? Is it a rigid ideology?
Are you a libertarian?
Speaker 2: Who you know?
Speaker 1: Is says if you were to try and do anything,
you know, everything's immoral and the borders should be open,
and well, you're the enemy, you know, are you? If
you're at this point, you're looking, you're looking for what
your values are, but not only what your values are,
but who but who you are? And I think one
of the biggest problems we have at this point is
most people, especially young men and older men and boomers
and gen x ers, and no one knows who they are. Yes,
you know I heard Carl. I heard Carl Benjamin say recently.
He said he was talking about England and then he
was you know, people are like, oh, you know, well,
why don't you you know, why aren't they Why aren't
the English standing up for themselves? You know, why aren't
why aren't heritage English standing up for themselves? He's like,
because they've reached a point where they hate themselves.
Speaker 4: Well, every time they try, they get arrested. I mean, okay,
So there's a group over there, community organizers that are
for White Britain by the name of a Patriotic Alternative.
They've tried like half a dozen times to become a
political party and do the political thing. You know, their
members have been arrested for putting up stickers and given
longer sentences than people who raped little girls. So every
time someone in England or in the UK tries to
fight back for their people, whether it's in the Homeland
Party or even Nigel Farage right, like they who are
Nigel is a you know, a Wall Street or a
City of London toady who's not actually an eth a
nationalist or any kind of nationalists at all really. But
you know, the b n P was was prescribed or
was destroyed by, you know, the state, the John Tyndall's organization,
I can remember its name now. They're they're like considered terrorists.
If you're a part of that, you go to jail,
you know, the English. So the people who rightfully were
upset about those girls getting killed by uh, the you know,
supposed Welsh choir boy who was as black as coal,
they went to jail for a long time. They're won
by the name Lucy Ledby. I think she's in jail
for for a Facebook post. I mean it's because they're
under City London occupation. And if you're a libertarian who
wants to have open borders, like Rand Paul, Rand Paul
is just a leftist. He's a disgusting, scumbag leftist because
he doesn't think that your person or your property deserve
to be safe from foreign invaders who want to kill you.
He can dress it up only once and the ethics
of private property and hobby and anarchic capitalism, whatever nonsense
he wants to talk about. But anyone who's for open
borders is a disgusting leftist and they need to be
called out on it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think.
Speaker 1: At this point, you know, you talk about people who
are getting thrown in jail and everything like that. We
need to start learning from history. How many times has
a people gotten to the point where, you know, a
bunch of people wake up, so what's going on around them?
And they go, Okay, who did this? Who did this?
We can't see who did this? Okay, yeah, politicians, sure,
but they're not doing this. Who did this? And this
is what I think the goal for the future is
for our people. We have to get to the point
where people see things getting better and they go, wait,
who did this? And it's us.
Speaker 4: We're the only game in town. We're the only game
in town.
Speaker 1: And we have to do it in a way where
no one knows that we're doing it. M you know,
I mean Reagan, you know, Reagan wasn't the Yeah, I mean,
I don't think we don't have any Reagan worshippers here,
but Reagan once said, you know, it's amazing what you
can accomplish if if nobody's looking to take the credit
for it, just you don't. People don't have to know
you're doing it. You just have to start doing it
and do it and be smart. I mean, how many
people still don't know that we're occupied by what? You know,
we've been occupied by one.
Speaker 2: Group for eighty years?
Speaker 1: Well, why it.
Speaker 2: Hit pretty good. They also.
Speaker 1: Did everything they possibly could to make sure no one
could see it, so that people still can't see it
even when it's obvious. So there's your goal.
Speaker 4: Someone's delusion was Ana Kasparian has just out and said,
you know, US government is rarely occupied territory. Colonel Douglas
mcgreer was on Life Site News recently, which is like
the normy pro life conservative website, talking about how all
the wars are started by Jews. I mean basically right,
like it's it's broken containment just upolotime. I'm cost about
it all the time. I mean you can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Howard Douglas mcgregarin not know his son
was just on my show talking about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Mean there are.
Speaker 1: Here's what when people take over. When you have a
group that takes over one of the things they historically
do is they slay the princes, not not always literally,
but sometimes literally. And but that blood doesn't go away,
that blood has memory in it, and sometimes those princes
wake up and go, wait a minute, I'm supposed to
be in charge, And then they start opening their eyes
and they start seeing. I think we've actually seen a
lot of that. I'm not going to go into I
don't want to get deep into it because I'd rather
people think for themselves about things like this. But I
think a lot of people are waking up to the
fact that wait a minute, I think I'm supposed to
be in charge here. I think my people are supposed
to be in charge here. And you know, it's just
a matter of how they're going to try and do it.
If they try and do it through Washington, DC, they're
going to fail.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, Washington DC, for the last eighty years at least,
has been the whole point of the system has been
to disenfranchise heritage Americans, particularly white fathers. Like it's designed
that way to disenfranchise the sorts of people that should
be in charge.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's killing the princes, just like Pete said,
it's killing of course, maybe not literally, well in many
ways literally, but in that sense, that's absolutely what it is.
It's breaking the line. It's breaking the line of succession.
They can step in its place. That's exactly what it is.
And I think it's very Earie Pete that you mentioned
about people don't even know who they are. Longtime readers
of my blog eighty proof Oyamancy will know that I
have a post god from back from twenty fifteen twenty sixteen.
I'll have to hunt it down where I talk about
exactly what you're saying. And at the time, it was
like ten years ago I wrote it and it said,
I say that if you're under the age of I
want to say, I said sixty or seventy. At that time,
I said, you have no idea who you are. You
were raised on television, you were raised on magazines. You
were one of the first multimedia generations. You have no
idea who you are none. You need to sit down.
You need to take a piece of paper and fold
it in half, vertically fold it in half, and then
separate it again and write down everything that you think
you are on the left side, and then take a
real honest stock of everything you are really are on
the right side and then make it make sense. Drop
what you don't like, add what you do like, put
the work in. So I agree with you one hundred percent, Pete.
That's also so why I said in my first book,
I said that there's a paradox in the manisphere. Again,
this is written years ago, but I said, the paradox
in the manisphere is this. It's that you leave. You
enter trying to get girls, and you leave not giving
a shit because you realize that there's so much more
important things out there that women will come along once
you realize your mission, once you understand who you are
as a man and what you're on this earth to do.
And that's one of the reasons that throughout all the
manispheer stuff, I was the one guy that said, stop
trying to pick up girls with techniques. Just learn who
you are. Well, then girls won't like me. Who cares?
You don't want those girls anyway if they don't like you,
Believe me, If you are who you are, you're confident,
you're assertive, you trust in yourself, you can handle your business.
There will be a woman somewhere sometime that will come
along and hitch her wagon to you, it's going to happen.
And as D likes to say, you know, if you
can't get laid, you can't you can't run my organization,
you can't have a leadership and my position in my organization.
So all of this is interconnected. So I sided with
you p T one hundred percent. You have to know
who you are, and by being honest with yourself, knowing
who you are as a man, then you can attract
like minded people. And as a benefit, not a downside,
as a benefit, you will repel people unlike you, which
you want to do. You don't want them in your area.
You don't want communists, you don't want peti ASTs, you
don't want them there. So by knowing who you are,
by establishing that, by learning it, and also having the
humility to understand your own weaknesses, having the modesty and
the humility to go, Okay, you know what, I'm good
at X, Y and Z, but I'm crap at AB
and C. I need people that can help me with that,
and understanding that as a man that you're going to
need help. You can't do everything on your own. You
can't sure, you shouldn't, You shouldn't mooch off of people
and beg people and make them fight your battles for you.
But there's nothing wrong with saying I need a tribe,
I need other people to help me get through this.
That's how you survive, that's how you thrive. No man
is an island. I've learned that over my course of
my life, and I doubt there's a man in this
conversation that hasn't learned likewise.
Speaker 1: It's also important to be able to recognize people around
you who speak the same language that you do, say
the same things, notice the same things you do, who
aren't your people, Because that's something I see all the time.
If anyone who's on social media will know this, that
there are people who seem like the most natural of allies,
but that when you like really drill down into it,
you know, if you're someone like myself, who you know
has a podcast or has a voice and is out there,
they're waiting for you to fuck up so they can
pounce on you. They're waiting for you to They're waiting
to tell you where you're wrong. They're waiting to if
you made a prediction and it didn't come true, They're
waiting to tell you and let you know, you know publicly,
and when I have a problem, I fed a problem
with one of you guys, I just contact you privately
and go, can we talk about this? People don't know
how to do that anymore. They they because of social media,
especially because they know that if they can be very
feminine and you know, like backbite and be caddy, they
can get a lot of attention. They maybe even get
some followers, and they maybe even get some virtual high fives.
It really comes down to you know what Thomas talks about.
It's like you're looking for a vanguard, and those are
the people you keep the closest to you. And you know,
there are also people who are they're not going to
have time to be part of the vanguard, and they
could be part of the vanguard. There are people who
want who are just literally good people who just don't
have what it what it takes to be part of
the vanguard. And you're you have no problem having those
people around too, but you don't have as much time
for them as you do for the vanguard. You don't
have time as much time as the inner as the
inner circle.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it goes, it goes.
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's getting It's like, I think
it's at the point now where it is really really
easy to see who the enemy is. You know who
the enemy is? I mean you could you know what a heartbeat.
It's getting harder and harder to figure out who that
enemy is that is in your orbit that you may
have to be like, get the get away from me, Go.
Speaker 4: Ahead, hose If I've talked too much, go ahead. As
I think it boils down to.
Speaker 5: Just adopting to the new circumstances, because I recall Charles
saying that he now tends to find more people that
he's aligned with online, and that's just like the new reality.
Because whenever I go out in proverbial meat space, I
just feel like I'm on a different planet. Like I
feel like I'm in like an extraterrestrial life form that's
among a bunch of people that are just not on
the same wavelength as myself. So we have to adapt
and find out who are like actual tribe is because
it's coming to the point where these battle lines are
going to be drawn very soon and if we if
we remate, if we if you operate like an atomized individual,
you will not only likely not survive, but you're also
reinforcing the system that we live in that encourages and
fosters atomization, because that's how the game goes. Like the
atomization is just like the end stage of the divide
and rule type of dynamic that has permeated across the system.
And it's designed in that way so that you've effectively
become depoliticized, depressed, and eventually just wiped out of the
gen pool all together.
Speaker 4: And I can't stress this.
Speaker 5: Enough about trying to build a community of people that
are already on your side, that are part of your tribe,
because we've been told that being part of a tribe
is a bad thing for the longest time, that you
have to like embrace all perspectives and all this stuff,
and this kind of thinking is what will lead to
our civilizational decline. And if we want to preserve our culture,
we actually have to like tribe up. We actually have
to champion the positive contributions of white European civilization and
find people who who are willing to do this because
time is precious, and at this point, I don't want
to waste time engaging with Normanies. I don't want to
waste time engaging with people that will never even give you.
Speaker 2: The time of day.
Speaker 5: It's best to focus our resources on improving yourself, your family,
and other people that are aligned with you that could
like actually benefit from interacting with you, because we have
to not only invest in ourselves, but also invest in
our community and stop giving like our money and time
and effort to organizations and institutions that seek to destroy us,
depoliticize us, or just divide us, and instead actually put
it towards causes that align with our goals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to just to reiterate, let me reiterate one thing, Charles,
and I'll let you go just I'll be real quick.
Speaker 2: You were talking about.
Speaker 1: Individualism and how they drive you to be individuals and
be derastinated. I think if you look fifteen years ago,
when people were fleet were a lot of people were
attracted to libertarianism. And then as time went by and Trump,
you know, the whole thing about Trump's not the man,
Trump is not important, and you started seeing more people
leave libertarianism. And then after twenty twenty, it's like, I mean,
pretty much anybody who's still flying the libertarian banner, I
really just don't know what to do with them. But
you see now that more especially a lot of young
people are not are more interested in collectivizing than they
were fifteen years ago, where everybody was like, well, well,
you know, be a radical individual and let's end the
FED and everything like that. No, it's like now people
are like, now I got to find my tribe. So thankfully,
I think that we're getting past that, and we just
really have to keep pushing that, pushing the collectivis or
die kind of message, because it'd be real easy to
fall back into that individual bullshit again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think that a good sign of that
is Jose was at a recent conference that was put
on by the political cess pool, and I'm curious to
hear what he has to say. But I listened to
the broadcast last week and it sounded like it was
a great time. But I think something we have to.
Speaker 2: We have to cure.
Speaker 4: Ourselves of is this notion that that like we're the outsiders,
we're the baddies. Like, no, our positions are the same ones.
Most everyone who's a conservative believes that we believe, you know,
we believe in things like degeneracy is bad and drugs
are bad for you, and people who deal drugs to
kids should go to jail, and people who murder babies
should go to jail, and like borders should be real,
and people should be safe in this street, and homeless
schizophrenics should be put in mental hospitals. And we're we're
not the outsiders, We're not the dissidents. We're we're the sane.
We're the same party, you know. And Lindsey Graham with
his like holding bloodbees, like just let me do let
me you know, let me kill I Ranian's playees lowered
one more time before it Like, that's that's insane, That's
that's literally crazy. These these people that spend more time
worrying about whether Israel is safe when whether people in
there walk in their major cities downtown. If you're a
senator from South Carolina and you don't care about the
fact that people can't be in Charleston and be safe,
and you care more about Tel Aviv than you do
about Charleston, you're a psychopath.
Speaker 1: Jose I know that you you can't get into specifics
and everything about uh, what d just mentioned, but maybe
you can you give an overview or as much as
you uh, as much as you can about the conference
you just went.
Speaker 5: To Yeah, I haven't been to really any political conferences
almost like in years. I think last time I went
to something it was actually pre COVID. I've been pretty
reclusive politically speaking in terms of meeting other peop But
when I went to that conference, I was definitely impressed
because people have clearly moved on from the typical libertarian
Reagan eye. Even like Bush eye politics, there was a
pretty big Boomer cohort, but these people were much more
radicalizing and talking about stuff that mattered like race, Jewish
influence all that. Some people still believe that there is
like a political solution, like say at the DC level,
But from the people I was talking to, you could
sense like these people were already to just fight back
against all the prevailing narratives you see in the political space.
And there were also some Europeans and attendants who did
not mince any words whatsoever in terms of the racial
conflict they were saying, And in fact I kind of
liked them a bit more because they don't have a
lot of the neoliberal capital baggage. They understood full well
that this fight is not just a fight against like
state institutions, but also the corporate institutions. As well that
have led to the immisiration and absolute demographic destruction of
the white European races. And there were some former politicians
and attendants who have also come to see the light
on these issues. But it wasn't just only the older generation.
There was a lot of young people there in attendance
that knew what the score was, and I was able
to gather some good contacts and maintain ties with them,
and for once, I actually felt like when I was there,
I was among people of similar intellectual caliber and curiosities
in addition in addition to the same political goals for
the most part. And that is like that forum was
one of the few forums where, sure there would be
political disagreements on strategy, but I felt that I was
among my people. As opposed to going to these events,
like when I go outside to like meetups or whatever
to people that I just when I listen to them talk,
I just want to like just fall asleep or just
leave the like venue almost immediately, just out of disgust.
But at the Political Cesspool event, I actually felt like
one with that audience and the participants and speakers excellent.
Speaker 3: I just want to draw a couple of points that
you raised Jose that again, I want to kind of
riff off of I wouldn't say that you were talking
about the atomization and I'll just tld R right now,
so I don't rehash everything you said already quite eloquently.
I'll just just say the TLDR on it is. It's
a feature, not a bug. And I think you're absolutely
right in saying that that it was part of the
plan to atomize people. And I do stand by everything
that I said about the Internet. And I think you
did a great thing by going to that conference, trying
to meet people and meeting people that are of like minds.
And it's obvious that you reap the benefits of it
because you said you felt at home. And I would
say that that's one of the things that I like
to give people actual means of doing something. If I'm
going to come on programs and talk about what's wrong,
I try and give the best the best solutions that
I can offer. Obviously, I can't give everybody a magic
wand to fix everything, but I try and give people
directions in which to head, a path on which to
set foot and start moving. And I would say use
your online communities as a touchstone to go to kind
of reference. Lightly with d said to let you know,
to remind you you're not the crazy one. Yes, there
are more locusts than lions, but that doesn't make the
locusts correct. So just use the internet as a touchstone. Hey,
I'm not crazy here. I've got a bunch of guys
that agree with me.
Speaker 4: I'm all right.
Speaker 3: You use that to keep your head on straight, to
keep your confidence up, and then you go out in
the real world and you try and meet people. You
try and talk to people, You try and build bridges,
You try and meet people and try and get them,
get to see where they are and learn them, learn
them in real space. Now, obviously, don't jeopardize your job
by doing dumb shit, but I mean do try and
see if you can put a little bit of a
foot out there and let other people feel comfortable to
put their foot out there so they can start revealing
who they are. And that's how the game works. And
obviously it has to be slow, it has to be deliberate,
and obviously play it wisely general is dove's wise as serpents,
as the Bible says. But somebody has to step first.
And if you can do it without too much risk.
I recommend you do it, but always keep your online crew,
your online friends to help keep you on the straight
and narrow path. And then just do what you can
in meet space using the internet as a as a
mental refuge, as an intellectual refuge. That's all I wanted
to say on that part.
Speaker 4: Gunnel.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, to just really I'll set you guys
off with this and I'll bring up some current a
current event, so that to build a little bit off
what we're talking about. So I mean thinking that there's
going to be any DC solutions. So Trump has since
twenty fifteen talked about, you know, immigration, and you know
allegedly there's a Department of Remigration. Well, unless it's not
being reported, it doesn't seem like a lot of that
is happening. And then you look at what happened in
LA which I think might have a little more to
do with the warrants that were being that we're supposed
to be served, which had something to do with money
laundering and trafficking, and then basically the cartels, and then
I think the NGOs took it as a chance to mobilize.
Speaker 4: To do all This was a direct threat to them.
I mean, Tom Longo is a lots of things, but
a fool in one of them. And Dave column also
who regularly appears on copying of my podcast that both
Peter and I have been on. You know, these people
all fuck kids. I mean, that's that's what they do.
And if if Dave call them or Tom Wongo tell
you publicly these people fuck kids. They have enough resources
to where a point if they if they couldn't back
it up, they'd be sued. And they know it. So
the fact that they haven't been sued, I want to
tell you something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing, one other thing I'll bring up
is the fact that if immigration and remigration is the
most important thing, I think everyone on this panel is
willing to suffer financial problems to get rid of these people.
There may be some problems, There may be some things,
may shut down. Something we all have like literally lost
an career, literally lost an i INS career trying to
stop this.
Speaker 3: Yes, the answer to that is a resounding yes, please continue.
Speaker 1: But then you have Donald Trump who is like, Okay,
well you know we have to stop this because we
need people to pick pick fruit, pick vegetables. Do this,
do that they still don't get it. This is still
a financial zone. This is still an open air strip mall.
This is still a financialized nation where we don't make
anything anymore. We may grow stuff, but it's not like
we grow stuff. I mean, these are these are corporations
who are growing stuff, a lot of them owned by foreigners,
and then they import foreigners to come and pick the
stuff because there's no minimum wage for that. And someone
like the political class still doesn't get it. They still
think that that the economy is more important than forty
to fifty. I mean, I was hearing somebody talk about
eighty million people who don't belong here, who shouldn't be here,
and that that just doesn't seem as important to some
people as the GDP, which is which is fake and gay,
or you know, whether they're what their return on investment
on their stock portfolio is going to look like, they
don't care anymore. They don't care, So you're you're going
to have to figure this all out, and you can't
do it by yourself. You're gonna have to do it
with other people. But yeah, I mean, this whole thing
of you know, you go to you know, I live
in a very small town pretty much, you start recognizing
after you live here for a couple of years, start
recognizing people.
Speaker 2: You know everyone.
Speaker 1: But I go to the big city of twenty five thousand, that's,
you know, a half half an hour north of me,
and you just look and you're like, I don't think
any of these people are legal. I don't think any
of these people are legal. I don't think any of
these people were born here. I don't think any of
these people have a green card. I don't think And
you're and it's like, it's like that. Everywhere I hear
stories of people who go into the coldest parts of
this country and it's like, yeah, a jet owns the
gas station, a jeet owns the hotel. I mean, it's like, wait,
what It's like, how this didn't happen by accident? So
look how much you have to reverse? And obviously somebody
thinks there's no rush, so it's gonna have to be.
It's gonna be up to us, guys. I hate to
say it. You might have to do something.
Speaker 4: Well, not only we have to do something, but also
I think that something that Jose touched on is briefly,
but I think it is worth the expens on and
I said this many years ago when I was still
allowed on Twitter. But the only people who are having
any kind of conversation that matters at all, talking about
any real issues or on I side of what you
know x Man calls a great devide know what everyone
else is just you know, building castle is in air,
and there is no point in talking to dormies. They'll
just do what they're told. Twenty twenty tell told you
as clear as anything that being free and knowing the
truth is too much work for most people and they'll
just take what they're given and do what power tells them.
So among the people who actually do stuff and get
stuff done, you know, our arguments have run the table.
It's only people who are you know. I mean Masade
has probably some truly appalling pics of Lindsey Graham, and
that's why he does what he does. But he knows
his arguments are all nonsense. Talk to me more about
our secret Republican judiciary. You know, no King's people. When
you know, republics are supposed to be societies full of
equal citizens that are all taxpayers and princess But like,
talk to me about thirty percent of the population that
you know, they don't work, they commit a lot of crime,
they don't pay taxes. What is it? What do they
cost over their lifetime? Charles? Every African in America is
like a negative seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars debit
on the treasury.
Speaker 3: Yep and every yeah yeah, I mean like every year
five hundred and eighty thousands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep. Yeah, it's insane, it's.
Speaker 4: Right, it's absolutely Tell me about about you know how
how we're all supposed to be citizens of a republic, right,
we're supposed to sit here and a debate where you
know these people who just cost money? Oh, no kings,
how about no opinions?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, like that's that's the Yeah, that's the thing, right, Like, okay,
no kings. Well then that means somebody's got to fill
the vacuum. Somebody gonna step up and do it. And
one of the things I've learned in my old age
that I wish I learned a long time ago. And
I'll try and put an old head on young shoulders
to your audience out there, Pete, Like you need to
go for power. You need to even if you don't
want to. As a matter of fact, like the Nowaday
Ching basically says, the guy who deserves to rule is
the one you have to drag, kicking and screaming to
the throne. You want to get power because if you
don't take it, some psychopath will. And I made that
mistake recently in my life. I'm older, I've already been
through a lot. It's like, ah, you know, I didn't
I didn't want the headaches, and now I'm having a
ton of a crap ton of problems at work because
a psychopath did get the promotion and now I got
to work for him, and now everybody's miserable. It's like, well,
why didn't I just go for the power myself? At
least I know I'm not a psychopath. And that's the
problem that we're encountering with these the No King's movement
and then other people that just kind of want to
live to go along and get along, because if you
don't get a power hungry person will, and you don't
want them to have it. And to step back to
your point earlier Pete about growing things, about what do
we grow here? What do we do? It's all companies
literally around the corner for my property, literally around the corner.
I've sent photos of it to d On the side
is a weed farm and it's owned by the CCP.
It's owned by them, it's run by illegals. And this
is the economy I'm supposed to want to see grow? Like,
are you kidding me? And I fled New Jersey where
my place and my birth where everything. Even if this
is in the early nineties, this is how long this
has been going on, more than thirty years. Everything was
already owned, Every gas station was already owned by Indians
or Pakistanis or whatever. And it's like, wait, this is
the GDP I'm supposed to worry about. I'm supposed to
want these people to prosper. What why I'm sorry, Why
do I need to hold that up? That's insane? Why
do I want to see that grow? Oh hey, here's
a cyst. You want to see it grow further, don't you?
Absolutely not?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's like rooting for the cancer
because it's growth. I mean, in some specific cases, like
in case Joe Biden or John McCain, I'll root for
the cancer. But you know, like that's that's you know,
like this is not a healthy thing. And and and
pretending that we can get along with or negotiate with
these uh, these occupiers is is crazy. Their entire depend
their entire livelihood, their entire life is dependent upon occupying us,
whether it's the homosexuals or the Zionis or you know,
the dependent populations in the United States. Their entire life
is dependent on us not doing anything while they suck
our blood. Well, you know, an occasional bite by mosquito
is annoying. But when you're told like no, you have
to you have to run around naked and the you know,
in the swamp in the summertime, so that all the
mosquitoes can feast on you, or you're a bad person,
most people are gonna go, nah, that's okay, put on
some bugspray and start slapping some bugs. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I would like to stress a point here with regards
to the comments of the challenges of restriction restricting immigration.
One issue I think that we have seen emerge post
World War two is people's obsession with all these upper
middle class comforts, and especially in the present, with having
like reliable overeats, deliveries and all this stuff that is
largely the result of this economy that is becoming heavily
reliant on foreign mass migration, and also with people who
rely on mass migration to boost their property values, like
the current homeowners and all of that. At some point
people have to think beyond kind of like their their
upper middle class lifestyles and be prepared to make sacrifices
because your posterity, your race, all that is more important
than the leisures that you have enjoyed thanks to globalization,
which has caused countless other people, working class people, most
notably like to be living very precarious lifestyles. And that's
why there is a need for actual racial solidarity now,
not politics that's motivated by just economic self interests. We
have to start thinking beyond that. We have to like
actually think about preserving like the culture, the history of
our people more so than people's for one k's and
other stuff like that, because that's how we're in this mess,
by becoming economic reductionist robots that only care about our
immediate designs.
Speaker 1: The part of breaking out of the the derascinated individual
framework you know, that we've been forced into, that's been
sold to us. I don't think you know a lot
of a lot of people haven't. You haven't been forced
into it. But when yeah, it's the only message you receive,
then it's it's also the best message that a group
that practices incredible in group preference can have for every
other group saying yeah, or you know, they'll preach it
to other groups, but those are only other groups that
they can control, and they can use as columns against
the against the historically more powerful group, which your white
European Christians, who you know, conquered pretty much everything they've
put their mind to.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was just going to say that, Hoose, you're
talking about the economic reductionism, and it just kind of
struck me as funny. You're absolutely right, and this isn't
to disagree. I wasn't laughing at your point. I was
laughing at the reality of it, because I sort of
in my head, I mentally put your statements along with
things that D has been drilling into my head for
a very long time, and I'm grateful for it, which
is Shelley v. Kramer. D. I'm sure you know I
referend this with you all the time, both on and offline.
But the thing that I'm bringing together here with your statement,
Jose and with DS, is all these people are like oh, well,
my property's worth a lot of money. Well, why is
your property worth a lot of money? Like everybody in
this room knows why some properties are worth a lot
of money and others aren't. Yeah, we can pick the
outliers like, oh it's on a lake, or oh it's
in Malibu, or oh it's on the Pacific Northwest and
you can see the ocean from the cliff side. It's like, okay, yeah,
those are the outliers. But what's the real reason a
property is worth any money or not? The demographics around it.
So what does it matter if your property is worth
a lot if you just live in a nicer area,
I mean, if you live with people that are like you,
if you can walk safely to the store. Because I'll
be one hundred percent honest with everybody in this room
and everybody that's listening to Peach Show. I've never left
the neighborhood that I was living in in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Never.
Speaker 3: If it had been what it was in the nineteen
seventies and very early nineteen eighties, which was a poor
Polish immigrant neighborhood. Why it was safe, it was clean, Hell,
you could eat off the streets.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: My grandmother got a local metal for keeping it so
clean and neat. Was it poor?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: Was everybody there a factory worker, Sure, but nobody was
blair in a radio at four o'clock in the morning.
It wasn't mariachi music playing in front of my house
out of a car speaker. There wasn't a bar letting
out every other night with a shooting. There weren't people
getting killed on my front steps. No, okay, so it
was poor. I didn't give a shit good My mortgage
was cheap, but it was still safe. It was still clean,
And I'm like, that's why, Yeah, you take over one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, well this is this is important. I was on
a different show this morning, It'll come out tomorrow on Sunday,
with a guy who's younger than me and a guy
that's older than me. We're talking about three generations of failure,
you know, Gen X millennials like me. I'm I'm right
on the edge of being a millennial. And then I
was talking with anothers a zoomer friend. You know, we're
talking about three generations of guys that the system has
completely failed, disenfranchised, economically destroyed. You know, we just destroyed
our relationship prospects with with feminism and and or made
him much more precarious.
Speaker 2: Right, And.
Speaker 4: This this notion that we should just just suck it
up and eat it. It's like, well, why should this house?
What's wrong with being poor and and still being treated
with some dignity and some respect from society? Kings were
poor compared to average average people in America. Now, yes,
you know Louis, Louis the fourteenth didn't have Aspurn, you know, Louis,
he didn't have Nike will when he had a gold right, Like,
we're talking about what's wrong with why don't ordinary people
deserve the respect of you know, you show up, you
go to work, you fight in the wars, you come home,
you have a couple of kids, you go to church
on Sundays, you put a twenty into plate it every
now and again. Why don't those people deserve respect? And
the answer is is that the people who took over
a society aren't the people who ever do anything. You know,
maybe maybe uh, probably somebody like Jamie Diamond or a
fetcher of Jerome Powell. Maybe not his father, but his
grandfather had got dirty and he remembers that, and he
respects people who do that sort of thing. But you know,
I keep telling people to listen to Pete stuff Pete's doing,
but everyone really, really really needs to listen to the
two hundred years together that he's been doing with doctor
Matthew Rafael Johnson. These people that occupy us now literally
revolted because they were told to like grow food, because
they were told, oh, we can't work for a living,
So how can they respect people who just like I
would be Okay, I would. I don't want to be rich.
I just don't want to don't want to get screwed.
I'd be perfectly happy living in a lower middle class
Catholic neighborhood like what doctor Michael Jones talked about in
Slaughter Cities, where my kids could go to a decent
school subsidized by the parish, and my mass was good
and my neighbors were all people I went to church with.
I'd be in heaven. But we're not allowed to have
any of that because any source of solidarity for us,
whether it's economic or social or religious, we're even just
friends on the internet, we can't have that either, because
it's a sort of so solidarity that these people hate.
Speaker 1: We're literally a threat to them. We're literally a threat
to them because we know how to build shit, don't
We don't just parasitize. We're not just parasites on everyone else,
and they can't grow stuff. I mean people are like, oh, yeah,
you know, Israel is not an ethno state they have
there are Arabs who are citizens. Yet they're there to work.
They're there to do the manual labor that you can't do.
We know this the couple that you put in your
government just so that the world can see, you can
point to them and go see, see we allow them
to have a say too. Yeah, some of us know
what this is. Yeah, I mean, we just haven't figured
out the fact that we can defeat them. We can
defeat them just by being who we are, because we
don't want to be who we are anymore. It's become
too easy. Life's become too easy. And you know people
say all the time, well, you know, no one's going
to do anything. No one's going to want and demand change.
No one's going to go out there and do the
things until they get hungry. It's like it we'll we
get you know, when you're hungry, it's a little late.
You need to start doing that now. And I don't
know how long I've been preaching this, but I mean
it's before COVID. Then COVID came along, and it's like, yeah,
you need to start doing stuff now. How much more
obvious is I mean, what else has to happen that
you are not going to put that group together that
is going to be the one to get you through
this and to build what comes next and to not
only for yourselves but for the people around you. Now
is the time to build what comes next. And I'm
not talking about only for you. You have a chance to
be in on the ground floor of it. But people
still just the either waiting for a lot of It's
just people are waiting for someone else to do it.
That's why they still think. They're still waiting for someone
in Washington to save them. They still think their vote
is sacred. They still want to complain about the twenty
twenty election, you know. And when I talk about the
twenty twenty eight election, what I tell people is, yeah,
I hear everybody thinking that jd. Vance is going to
be the vice The vice president now is just going
to be elected again, and it will be elected in
twenty twenty eight to continue, what to going to be
all the great changed?
Speaker 2: It's happening?
Speaker 1: Or have I said about twenty twenty eight? If they
just want to, they'll just steal the election again. Why
are you putting your faith in elections? The only people
putting their faith in elections are people who are either
way too comfortable and feel like they can't really be touched,
or people who are just too fucking lazy to do
anything differently, Sorry my opinion. You can hate me for it,
but I'm not wrong.
Speaker 4: How is any election where huge numbers of parasitic parasites
who never contribute to the tax roles, commit a ton
of crime and are like here illegally a legit election,
like just on the on the census question, right, like
the county legals towards the census that gives California at
least two or three extra House members, gives Texas extra
House members. And because it's frozen at five hundred and
thirty five or right four to thirty five, it's you're
stealing from Iowa and Nebraska and you know Missouri in
the white parts of those places too. So how is
that legit? Why should third and fourth generation ghetto dwellers
in Philadelphia or Baltimore get to vote. How does how's that?
Citizens of republic If you guys, you know, go back
and listen to Pete's Disquisition on Civil Government John Calhoun.
Citizens of republics have to be cotributing members with skinning
the game in order for a republic to function.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's funny when you read disquisition, you're like,
I think people who don't realize what he's saying think, oh,
he's very naive about how government should work. He's working
with an ought. Well, he's not working with an The
aught that he's working with is the aught that basically
the country was founded upon. Is that white Europeans basically
all the same, basically people who are the same people.
A lot of them are probably seventh and eighth cousins,
you know.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 1: When people you know, talk about Calhoun and they're like,
you know, how great he was and everything, I always
try to pass along to them his letter about the
Mexican American War, where he said, don't get in a
war with Mexico. It's going you're going to end up
having Mexicans brought into the United States. And these people
are not like us. What was that eighteen forty eight day?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean not only did did he predict that,
but like the aught that he was talking about. You know,
this is the thing that you guys all say that
you want, Like, Okay, when you say you want to
go back to the Constitution, what do you mean? Do
you mean the Constitution prior to being being hijacked by
a crit Turkey and marbur of his Madison? Do you
mean the Constitution prior to you know, eighteen sixty one
and mister Lincoln's invasion. Do you mean the post Civil
War constitution before the New Deal? I mean, which because
you know, the one where Negroes couldn't vote. I mean,
when you say the constitution, what do you mean? You know,
like you're gonna have to be the person who's responsible. Okay,
if you're listening to this program, I'm sorry. You're the
one who's got the agency and the understanding to understand this,
and most people are just going to do what they're told. Okay.
One of the reasons that the Germans were successful, and
I think there are three, is they made people be
proud again, and we have nothing to be proud of
because we would produce crap, and we don't give anyone
any stake in society. You're going to figure out how
to do that again?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Charles, well, just on the point there.
I mean, that's that's about what you were saying. But
to tie up what Dija said with what you said earlier, Pete,
we just have to find out who we are again
and get and reclaim it. Nobody's going to do it
for us, and we have to do it. But that'll
be our that'll be our burden. And I think we
can do it, and I think we're well up to
the task. And I think something else to keep in mind,
because I'm a capital are romantic heart. I've talked about
this with Jason Moronchak more than once. One of the
benefits of being where we are now, and I don't
mean specifically we as in the men in this room necessarily,
I just mean in general where we are now as
a people heritage Americans, is we have the chance to
be legends. This is where it all starts. You know,
this is the time to act because that's what we
need now. Like Machiavelli wrote, life has to goals have
to be as if they're a target In archery, you
always aim a little higher than your target so that way,
when the arrow falls, you still strike true. So we
need legends, we need romance a capital R. Now's the
time to do that. Now's the time to have people
one hundred years from now write about you, make a
song about you, make up shit that you probably didn't
even do, but it sounds good, and it pushes people
to move forward and to fight for what they value.
So that's one of the benefits that we have right now.
And that's one of the benefits of being a prime mover,
is doing things like that. And maybe I've made zero
difference in my life, that's quite possible, but I can
tell you I was one of the first guys in
the manisphere, and I was one of the first guys
in the dissident right, and I'm going to be one
of the first guys in whatever comes next. Maybe nobody
gives a shit about me, that's fine, but I'm going
to go to my grave knowing that I moved, that
I did something that I didn't wait for somebody else
to do it. I did what I could. And that's
why I'm always pushing listeners to do what you can
I've never once put unreasonable expectations on anybody, never, not
one time. I've kept it simple. If all you can
do is make a new friend, make a new friend.
If all you can do is go to the gym,
go to the gym, do something, move the ball forward.
Because it's going to take all of us. And if
all of us do that, then we all get to
the end goal.
Speaker 2: Anything.
Speaker 5: I'll say, Yeah, I think that people are gonna have
to move beyond their comfort zone as well. It's gonna
take superhuman acts of will to actually restore order in
this polity, and it will require, as Charles said, like
people actually have to become legends. They can't just be
spectators anymore. You can't wait for other people to do
the work for you. You have to like take it
upon yourself to start building like the future that you
want to see for.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow.
Speaker 5: And yeah, there's no easy way out because ultimately those
who like the lazy man will end up doing double dot,
triple the work. If they try to pursue shortcuts, it's
gonna be a long slog and people have to be
mentally prepared and they have to make actual sacrifices and
kind of I'd say, like almost he judaized their mindset
in a way. Because we have been living in a
Judeo American order where we expect toll that the big
red line to go up through very very little labor,
and rely on speculative finance for our livelihood. We actually
need to start creating stuff institutions, organizations, new infrastructure projects, technology,
you name it. And the first step is to like
actually be ready to make sacrifices and build something that
goes beyond.
Speaker 2: You're also going to have to just basically take a side.
Speaker 1: You know, I I watch people try to straddle the middle,
you know, I I'm thinking Thursday night, two nights ago,
Israel sense a whole bunch of bombs into Tehran. Tehran
is a residential area, it's a city, and obviously people died.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Iran retaliated. And you know, if you go on Twitter
right now, you'll see Jews and Zionists and Schabaskoy saying
that Iran is committing war crimes right now.
Speaker 4: Oh god, they're attacking Art. You've leveled Gaza.
Speaker 1: Shut the fuck off, literally cry out and they cry
out in pain as they strike you. And that's exactly
what this is. And if you're one of these people
who like looks at that and says, well, that's just
two sand tribes and everything, and screw both of them.
I'm not Now now you're weak. You're really weak, and
you were taught to do that. And guess who taught
you to do that? The one who started it on Thursday.
You know, it was like, oh, we got to go
bomb them because they may have and they may have
a nuclear weapon. Okay, so the only country on the
all this every news use nuclear weapons as US. I mean,
I guess that makes sense that, you know, if China
wanted to attack us, because you know, we have nuclear capabilities,
that would make sense, right because I mean, we use
them as far as I know. Iran doesn't even have one.
I don't even know if they have the capability to
have one. They actually declared a fat wall against making
nuclear weapons. But you know, just something that simple, something
that simple to look and go. I know it's I know,
it's seven thousand miles away. But one of those groups
controls our government and has controlled our society, education system, banking, entertainment,
government for eighty years.
Speaker 4: Oh and somehow dog zoroastrine occupied government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's obvious. Obviously it's Iran and Katar
that is to blame for all this. Yeah, so yeah,
it's like, oh, I do see that, Pete. I've listened
to you talk about, you know, against our better judgment
and how it was this grand plot designed in back
rooms with special pledges that God Israel and I know
that they have overwhelming but I just can't. They're going
against somebody that I've been told by Jews are my
sworn enemy, and I just don't want no, no, you're
a fence sitter. Don't want anything to do with you. Sorry,
you're not on my side. If you cannot take a
side in this, you're not gonna be able to take
my side when it comes down to it. So yeah,
stop with the bullshit and how about grow the fuck up,
act like a fucking man. Because all throughout history, when
existential crisises happen, men have to decide. Okay, this is
a dialectic. I'm on this side. I don't care that
somebody else created the dialectic. I have to pick a
side that best suits my survival, my family's survival, and
my people's survival.
Speaker 2: Grow the fuck up, that's right, and choose a.
Speaker 4: Side well, and not only that, but pretending to be
above it all as undo or pretending that there's not
a side, you're just helping our enemies. There is no
right now. There's one group of people randomly starting balligerant
war with their neighbors, all of their neighbors, the people
who ceeded to control of the southwestern United States to
the point where Los Angeles is a foreign occupied city,
that are responsible for the mass immigration into the UK
that leads to little girls get rape there. It's all
the same group of people, and it's not that our
our astrans. These people couldn't couldn't survive without our money
and our blood. So deny them as much both as
you can, and choose to fight them as much as
you can, and then hopefully, you know, maybe not us,
but your kids will be free someday because unless you
fight them, nothing's going to change, and that's intolerable.
Speaker 1: I know we've only been going an hour and a half.
We usually do this for a long time, but so
I'll open it up to you, guys. Is there any
subject that anybody has on their mind that they'd like
to discuss, because I think we have Charles, you got
a little bit longer, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a little bit. I'm just not feeling well,
so I think I'm burning up the last bit of
my reserves. But I'm happy to hang in there as
long as you need me to.
Speaker 2: All Right, Has anybody got anything? No?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think we've covered it. I mean, like,
you know, the infrastructure stuff is going to get worse
is the population gets browner and less competent, the you know,
and it's all downstream of of you know, our occupied government.
In your only ops right now are the people who
are in charge of our government. You know, Thomas is
right about this stuff. The only people that you have
to politically move against are the people occupying our government
because every other problem is downstream of them, every single one.
Speaker 1: I people, It's very simple, and I think the problem
that people a lot of people have when Thomas says that,
is that we could all of the other problems that
you black, crime, immigration, everything, You just have to solve
the one problem. You need heritage Americans running the country again,
and you need to expel the influence that basically is
set on destroying us as parasitic everything. And until that happens,
a lot and a lot of those people are in
Europe too. By the way, Europe has declared war on us.
They want to see us dead too, you know. And
a lot of white Europeans have decided to side with
our enemies against us, So take that into consideration too.
I've had people tell me you can't criticize white people
because they're just under the influence of Jews, and I'm like, so,
they have no agency whatsoever. I mean, if they kill somebody,
they're not you know, for I mean, come on, let's
let's stop here. We have enemies. You have to know
who they are. You have to be able to identify them.
You have to know how they work, you have to
know what they do. But once you do that, then
you can figure out ways around it or through it,
or even to be able to fight it. Until then,
you're pretty much just stuck in Zog world. I'm not
in Zog world anymore. My head's not there. But I
know who they are. I'm gonna keep talking about them because,
you know, I want to see more people who agree
with me, who share my values, wake up, and I
want my I want my people to I want more
of our people to come to us. There will be
there's no I don't believe in strengthen numbers when it
comes to politics because it's always a small little group
that dominates. But also we have to be able to
take that small little group thing and bring it into
the real world for us, have the vanguard, have another
group of people, have a nice group of people who
can I don't know, maybe we're all going to have
to Maybe a bunch of people are going to have
to move to a certain you know, move to a
certain place, and you know, maybe that's the way it
works out. I know people who are doing that already,
but they're not announcing it. They're not bragging about it.
They're not saying, Oh, we're going to have this white
ethnic state over here, white ethno state over here, And yeah,
they're not doing that. You have to do something at
this point or else you're just if you may feel, if.
Speaker 4: You're a listener to this program, particularly if you're a
white male under the eight of forty, you're the guy
who's supposed to be in charge. You're the guys you're
supposed to be running your state legislator and be a
senator in fifteen years. And you're the guy who's supposed
to be a CEO when I understand that even systematically
maliciously frozen out. Believe me, I get it. All four
of us here have paid a price for doing what
we do. All four of us are significantly poorer than
you should we should be for doing what we do.
But find your guys, whether that's an active club or
the old Glory Club which is exploding in growth, or
something else. Find a group of guys that I'll have
your back and be solid, and then use that because
the state's capital s does. State is not going to
be reliable into the future. It's not going to function.
Speaker 2: It's not functioning now.
Speaker 1: Look at all the of the power outages, and I
mean it's it's getting easier and easier for hackers to
just take that stream yard got taken down the other
day from what I understand, And yes, I mean you know,
we had lightning here that took down it took down
a tree. It took almost twenty four hours to get
the power back on here. I mean, it's it's everywhere,
it's everywhere. And unless we step up and figure out
how to do things these things on our own and
make sure people are trained up on how to do
these things. It's going to go to people who have
you know, two standard deviation IQ less than us, and
you know who you can't tell you how they'd feel
if they didn't eat breakfast this morning. Is that who
you want running your water treatment plant? I don't think so.
Speaker 4: But that's pretty much where we are right now. But
what if I forgot to take out the giardia in
the water this morning, Pete, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's leave it there. Charles Good promote.
Speaker 3: I got nothing to promote, but I'll just say briefly
that I do have two books on Amazon if anybody's interested.
They are The Holistic Guides to Suicide, Coping with Ideation Suicide,
Ideation Depression Trauma, and I have Whiskey and Ashes and
Inebriates of Owels, Maxims and Observations. If anybody would like
to check them out, By all means, they both need
new revisions, which I should probably get to. But if
you like to check them out, I'd be happy for
you to have them at your at your fingertips, especially
the Holistic Guide to Suicide. Because this thing's worsen, I
think it will only become more necessary for young men
to see the forest in which they find themselves and
to get out of it in the dire straits in
which they find themselves. You can find me on Twitter
occasionally throw my thoughts out there whiskey and ashes, and
I'm often mentioning Pete in the program. So if you
somehow miss Pete mentioning it, I'm pretty sure I'll.
Speaker 2: Repeat it as well.
Speaker 3: So I wish everybody out there all the best. God blessed,
good luck, take care of yourselves. And as I always
try and tell men, you are not built for comfort.
That's a woman thing, that's a nesting thing. You are
built for respect, and you are built for glory. So
I promise you, as somebody who has been in penury
for quite some time and up and down, if you
can look at yourself in the mirror, that's one of
the best gifts you can give yourself, and that's the
one thing that you will find value until your last breath.
God bless all and thank you for having me Pete.
Speaker 2: Of course, how about Jose.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you still find me at the same place on
Twitter x at Jose al Nino and also my sub
stack Jose Ninho Unfiltered. I'm also writing at like some
new places now such as Occidental Review and Libertarian Institute.
Speaker 1: That's just absolutely amazing those three that you just said,
those three things, all that you're writing at all three
of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're check out.
Speaker 1: Really a lot of people say, oh, Pete, how can
you put out as much as much as you do?
Go check out how much Jose puts out. It's absolutely remarkable.
So yeah, check out, go find him.
Speaker 4: Absolutely Hosy is one of the finest pros that I
was working today and I particularly enjoyed his Uh. I've
been enjoying his work in the American Free Press. So
you know, just just be everything Jose rights, you'll be
much better, better off, better and formed. Well that's for me.
You can find me at the Fundamental Principle on some stack.
I think Pete's got a link to that. We just
interviewed on father James Maudsley, the English priest who got
suspended over COVID and has been brave enough to talk
about the stuff like that. That continues to pace. And
you know, just got my telegram channel. So I want
to thank Pete for having me and just reiterate, you know,
support the people to support you.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Bye.
Speaker 4: By Charles's books. They're excellent. You know, read Jose's writing.
It's excellent. Kick Pete a few bucks, whether it's on
substack or elsewhere or whatever. You know, Pete does so
much really really important work between the series with Doctor
Johnson and this, this new series on the US role
in the creation of Israel, and no one else would
do this, and no one else could do this, So
you know, please, and I you know I contribute to
so I'm not asking you to do anything I haven't done.
Please kick a few bucks to get a cause. And
no times are hard out there for folks, but please do.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it day, Thank you, and gentlemen, until the
next time. I always look forward to this. And I
know it's not always easy for all four of our
schedules to line up, But.
Speaker 2: SAT a Saturday.
Speaker 1: Like it normally at the time that that that I'd
be eating dinner, and I would There's no other place
ID rather be right now.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
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