WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:08.160 Oh is bolt it show die? 2 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:11.279 People say good money to see this movie. When they 3 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:14.759 go out to a theater, they want clod sodas, hot popcorn, 4 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:15.960 and no monsters. 5 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:19.199 In the protection booth, everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring? 6 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:20.879 Got it off? 7 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:42.000 What are we gonna do? 8 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:45.560 I got an idea, go faster. 9 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:49.439 Dumb A person lacking mental power. 10 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:51.200 What's the last name? I'll look it up. 11 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:56.520 Starts with an s slappy no swap swappy. 12 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:57.399 Nah. 13 00:00:57.600 --> 00:00:58.960 Maybe it's on the briefcase looking though. 14 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:01.560 Oh yeah, it's right here, samsonnight. 15 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:03.039 I was way off. 16 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.400 Idiot, an adult mentally inferior to a child of three. 17 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:10.959 Ez huh, that's right. 18 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:16.920 The years, Uh huh both of them? 19 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:16.680 Yeah? 20 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:23.840 Cool? Stupid A person below normal intelligence. 21 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:34.280 Hey, want to hear the most annoying sound in the world. 22 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:40.040 If they each had half a brain, they'd still only 23 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.719 have half a brain. 24 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:44.079 A luck Frost. 25 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:54.560 Jim Carrey. 26 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:57.439 You can't go in there, right. 27 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:15.479 Driver Jeff Daniels, O, jeez, look at the button. Yeah, 28 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:21.560 he must work out more dumb and dumber for these 29 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:23.280 guys every day. 30 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:25.439 He's a no brainer. 31 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.120 Welcome to the projection Booth. I'm your host. Mike White 32 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.280 joined me once again as mister Ryan Lewis Rodriguez, Hello, sir. 33 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.319 Also back in the booth is mister John Walker. Okay, Gang, 34 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.840 you know the rules. No humping, no licking, no sniffing, 35 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:52.360 heigh knees. This week we are looking at the fairly brothers. 36 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.719 Dumb and Dumber. Released in nineteen ninety four, the film 37 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:59.240 stars Jim Carrey as Lloyd Christmas and Jeff Daniels as 38 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.639 Harry Dunn, two complete idiots who embark on a quest 39 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.639 to return a briefcase to Mary Samson I, played by 40 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.840 Lauren Holly, who secretly is in a heap of trouble. 41 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:12.000 We will be spoiling this film if we can, so 42 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:13.879 if you don't want anything ruined, please turn off the 43 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:16.639 podcast and come on back after you've seen it. We 44 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:19.360 will still be here. So, Ryan, when was the first 45 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.599 time you saw Dumb and Dumber? And what did you think? 46 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:25.560 In the Year of Our Lord nineteen ninety four, I 47 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:28.360 was obsessed with a man named Jim Carey. He was 48 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:31.159 my absolute hero. And of course my dad took me 49 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:35.479 to go see Ace Ventura when I was eight, and 50 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:37.599 he said, if I ever do that again, and taking 51 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:39.680 to another movie like that and it turns out to 52 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.000 be like that, I will never take you to another movie. 53 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:44.879 That's how offended he was. But he took me to 54 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:47.080 go see The Mask. We both love The Mask, but 55 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.599 he did not let me see Dumb and Dummer in theaters, 56 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.599 so I had to see it on pay per view 57 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.639 at a motel that we were staying at in maybe 58 00:03:55.199 --> 00:04:00.000 February of ninety five, and I fell in love instantly, 59 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.039 And once I was allowed to buy the VHS, I 60 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.280 wore that fucker out. I wore it out like a 61 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.159 dirty shirt. And it's still one of my favorite comedies. 62 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:11.039 And John, how about yourself? 63 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:14.039 I was trying to remember actually, right before we started 64 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:17.360 this conversation, like why this movie was on my radar, 65 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.839 And the only thing I can imagine is that I 66 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.639 was interested in what Jim Carrey was doing with his comedies. 67 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:25.439 But I feel like there was something more. Maybe I 68 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.480 had read an article because this was the first Fairly 69 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:29.319 Brothers movie, right. 70 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.199 Yeah, and only one of them is credited with directing it, 71 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:32.839 which is weird. 72 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:35.920 It's an interesting thing though, because it's like after this 73 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.000 I knew who they were obviously, But anyway, I remember 74 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.920 looking forward to this and feeling like there was some 75 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.199 reason why I was particularly I was like excited to 76 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.959 see a movie like this. I still to this day 77 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:49.920 feel this way. But at the time, especially I was 78 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:50.519 in college. 79 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:52.000 I think I would have been. 80 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:55.040 Twenty one when this came out, so I was I 81 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.279 had I'd fully gone into my sort of pretentious film 82 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.399 buff face. But I was also a huge fan of 83 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:05.120 just pure comedies, and especially things that were like low 84 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:09.720 concept or no concept or de concept or whatever, like 85 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:12.839 really good dumb comedy was and so I think I 86 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.120 was really primed and ready for this movie. And at 87 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.759 the time, I remember at least a couple of times 88 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.360 going back to the theater with somebody because I wanted 89 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:23.279 more people to just laugh with me about this movie. 90 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:25.120 And it does feel very nineteen ninety four in a 91 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.720 strange way now, but it also feels like it's connected 92 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:31.199 to like the Cluseau films or something like that, where 93 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.000 it's really just or Anchorman or anything like that, where 94 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:37.319 it's just like classic buffoonery people that think they're the 95 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:40.240 smartest people in the room and are definitely not. I've 96 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:42.120 always been a fan of that kind of movie. So yeah, 97 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:44.879 I just remember being excited to see this movie and 98 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:46.560 going to see it. And I also remember, just a 99 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.680 quick little personal anecdote. I went with my girlfriend and 100 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:52.680 some guys were being noisy in the theater, and she 101 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.720 completely told these guys, you know, shut the fuck out. 102 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.839 And it was at a point where I was like, Oh, 103 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.560 they're not gonna hassle her in the parking lot, They're 104 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.160 gonna hassle me. I remember watching this movie feeling like 105 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:07.360 I was gonna have to fight after the movie, and 106 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.680 it never happened. But I do remember there was like 107 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:12.240 there was still when I watched this movie. I'm remembering 108 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:14.480 that feeling of maybe if I wait in the theater, 109 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:16.920 these guys will leave first and then I can pick 110 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.000 out later. But yeah, it was definitely a movie I 111 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:20.800 was looking forward to and I enjoyed. 112 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:22.720 When it came out. Well, you had to stay in 113 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:24.319 the theater for that extra scene at the end. 114 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:27.519 That's what I told myself. It wasn't an act of cowardice. 115 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:29.079 It was an act of completism. 116 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:32.720 Samuel L. Jackson shows up and says, Harry Lloyd, I'm 117 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.720 putting together a team. I don't think I saw this 118 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:40.360 in the theater. I remember seeing the mask in the theater. 119 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:45.399 I don't think that I saw ace Ventura at the theater. 120 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.240 I don't think I saw this one. I think I 121 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.199 saw Did I see King Pen? No, I didn't see 122 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.759 King Penn theatrically. I did see There's something about Mary theatrically. 123 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.519 But yeah, this one just went under my raidar. I 124 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.920 definitely knew who Jim Carey was. I definitely watch a 125 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:06.439 lot of in living color, and even remember the great 126 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.560 strides I had to make to go see Earth Girls 127 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:11.920 Are Easy and just how tough it was to see 128 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.319 that movie around here. I had to like take this 129 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:18.480 major road trip to go out and see that. But yeah, 130 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:23.360 I remember watching this on VHS and absolutely loumbing it. 131 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:25.360 Had a real good time with that. But I didn't 132 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.800 really go back to this one very often. It's not 133 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:32.319 a movie that I watch frequently, nor did I back 134 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:36.199 in nineteen ninety four. But I just remember very fondly. 135 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:39.439 And it's funny that you bring up the Inspector Cluse movies, 136 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.680 because I forgot just that this is a it's a 137 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.600 caper movie. There's this whole thing of a crime that 138 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.600 has been committed, and it's so funny how they keep 139 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:52.480 that away from the rest of the narrative so much. 140 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.959 They give you a little bit at the beginning with 141 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:57.920 Lauren Holly, and then once you start to get into 142 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:02.079 more of the Charles Rocket and Mike Stop and Duff characters. 143 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.040 It's funny that you don't even know who or what 144 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:11.040 was taken from Lauren Holly. Why she's giving Charles Rockett 145 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:16.120 surreptitiously this briefcase full of money, and obviously she doesn't 146 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.959 know that somebody so close to the family is involved 147 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.800 with some sort of thing, and that it's not until 148 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:25.279 five minutes before the end that you even know that 149 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:27.800 she was married and that her husband was kidnapped. It's 150 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:29.800 a little blue velvet at times. 151 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:33.279 There's a comparison between that and Earth Girls Are Easy, 152 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.879 and that Charles Rockett is the villain in both movies. 153 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:39.600 Right, Yes, Oh God, I love Charles Rockett, love him 154 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.639 so much, and he was so good in this He's 155 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:43.320 so good in everything that he was in and we 156 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:45.000 lost him way too soon. 157 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.279 Wait, he sells that moment that I think you have 158 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.600 to have in a movie like this, if you've got 159 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:52.919 the caper plotline, and if you've got like villains, the 160 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.759 way that this story does at some point, at least 161 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.360 if not for the duration of the movie. The villains 162 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:03.120 have to think the idiots are like super competent masters 163 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:06.000 of subterfuge. At some point they have to say they're 164 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.919 just that good. And I think that, like Charles Rockett 165 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.240 knows like he's a funny guy. I was thinking, is 166 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:14.120 it interesting for him to be asked to play basically 167 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:16.879 the heavy just because he's got a jaw line and 168 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:19.440 he can do that. He could be playing the funny 169 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.720 guy in a different movie, but in this case he's 170 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:24.879 getting to play a very dry character. But he does 171 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.159 have that sort of he's got to sell that idea 172 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:30.399 that these people are like, what are these two men doing? 173 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:34.080 We see that they're complete idiots, But what's the Bill 174 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:36.039 Murray movie? Is it The Man who Knew too much 175 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:37.879 or knew too little? The Man who knew too little? 176 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:38.200 Yeah? 177 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.399 And then there's the great Dave Foley comedy The Wrong Guy. 178 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.480 It's another great like it's a smart, dumb guy comedy, 179 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.600 but it's also a guy who doesn't understand the situation 180 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:48.399 he's in at all. 181 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:50.480 And I'm a bag Jones. 182 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.039 And with movies like that, you always have to be 183 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:57.320 careful as far as how do people treat that character, 184 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:00.360 how do they respond to him. It reminds me like 185 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:04.360 Frank Drebin, where he will say and do the dumbest 186 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:07.879 things on earth. Some people know that he's stupid, and 187 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.720 other people just look, askance, am I hearing what I'm 188 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.559 supposed to be hearing? And other people just take him 189 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:19.320 completely seriously. I think it's mostly you're George Kennedy, your 190 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.159 OJ Simpson take him very seriously because they are equally 191 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.960 as stupid. But then you get to Nancy marsha On 192 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.000 and she's just like, what is this kind of thing? 193 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.639 Just making more faces than anything, and just I can't 194 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:34.480 believe this, dude. But there's not a lot of people 195 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.600 that call out Frank Drebin for being a complete idiot, 196 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.120 and this movie does that good balance, because there are 197 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.399 some people that are just like, who the hell are 198 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:45.879 these guys? They're so stupid, and other times like you're saying, 199 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:49.240 oh my god, these are evil geniuses. They're sending me 200 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:51.399 a message, what do you mean gas man? How do 201 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:53.759 they know I have gas? They're rubbing it in my face, 202 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:55.559 which means then. 203 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:58.559 That guy's trying to outsmart them and then when he's 204 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:00.639 around them, like, I love that stretch of the movie. 205 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:02.080 I don't want to get ahead, but that stretch of 206 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.559 the movie where Mentalalino is in the car with them 207 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:08.600 is one of those great like just that's hell for him, 208 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:10.679 it's to be around these guys. But somewhere at the 209 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:12.679 back of his mind he's like, how are these guys 210 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.600 kind of running the board? Like I don't know, it's 211 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:17.799 just I think that that's probably a through line. You 212 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:19.559 would probably find that moment in a lot of these 213 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.200 types of movies where part of what you're saying, Mike 214 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.000 is like, how do you keep that? How do you 215 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.279 keep these characters moving forward in the story. It has 216 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:28.519 to do with how people react to them. Do you 217 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.960 bring it up, Frank Drepen bring something up that I 218 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.200 was hoping we would get to, which is what's the 219 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.679 line between like spoof world and like whatever that adjacent 220 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:40.039 to spoof world is that this movie takes place in. 221 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:42.960 It's not quite spoof world. It's not quite where like 222 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.399 the scene resets and it's like a cartoon character. If 223 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.720 you get injured, you probably still look bruised in the 224 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.240 next scene. In a fairly Brothers movie, it's a French sparse. 225 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:55.799 There's a funny line there. But I think Frank Dreban 226 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:57.919 is also in spoof world, so he's a little bit 227 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.440 more even like the Marx Brothers or something, where you 228 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.360 do have the straight people that react to him just 229 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.440 like what's this idiot doing? But in Dumb and Dumber 230 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.600 there's almost like there's more consequences and so you get 231 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:10.159 more pushback to these idiots because the world is slightly 232 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:11.559 more the real world. 233 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.279 It's just an interesting distinction. Yeah, you do get those moments, 234 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.320 so where he runs off the jetway and lands in 235 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.240 a heap, but he is up and around the next 236 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:23.960 time we see him, he's absolutely fine. But yeah, there 237 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.200 are some consequences, not a lot, but there are some. 238 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:32.960 To jump to the third movie when Rob Briggle gets 239 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:36.039 blown up with fireworks, like his hair's on fire and 240 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:38.759 all this stuff is going on, but then it doesn't 241 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:42.519 necessarily look horrible in the next scene, but you definitely 242 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.720 know he's been through something. But then again, he's one 243 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:49.159 of the street people versus Harry and Lloyd, who do 244 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.480 seem fairly indestructible. A lot of times. 245 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:55.840 It's causing chaos wherever they go. People die around them 246 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.759 frequently and they don't even notice it. Like Jim Carrey 247 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.840 gets somebody killed in the second scene of the film, 248 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:05.200 there's a giant explosion when he's not looking at the road. 249 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:08.600 Clearly someone in that car died. I mean it just 250 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:10.159 turns back around and starts driving. 251 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:15.200 Yeah, I'm shocked when Harry is a little guilty about 252 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:19.679 mental dying in the diner and everything, but he gets 253 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:21.039 past it pretty darn fast. 254 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:23.799 It's funny how that scene plays out, too. That's a 255 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.039 good example of the logic of this world is that 256 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.039 they somehow manage to get out of that scene, Like 257 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.519 the people are realizing right after they left, wait a minute, 258 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:33.600 there was something fishy here. But somehow they manage to 259 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:35.519 get on the road and get out of there before 260 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:37.919 the cops show up or before people start questioning it. 261 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.919 You can again still see that there's like some plausible 262 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:44.039 sense of even if we don't see them getting consequences, 263 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.440 the idea that there might be some kind of consequences 264 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:48.600 are there, even right up until the end when there's 265 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:51.399 like gun play, Like you don't know that they're not going. 266 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:51.840 To get hurt. 267 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.519 You just suspect that if they do get hurt, it'll 268 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.120 be funny and not tragic. But even then I do 269 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:00.879 think that well in the third movie, I guess the 270 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:06.919 injury that Harry as he's shot through, he's bleeding through. 271 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.639 It's a kind of realistic wound, but it still played 272 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:12.559 for laughs that he's, oh, I think I'll be fine, 273 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:14.679 and then he's like, put some bactine on it or whatever. 274 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.519 But it's a rubber band reality. 275 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:21.159 But it's not full on spoof world where you say 276 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:25.679 nice beaver and then somebody hands down a taxidermy beaver. 277 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.679 It's not full on that, but it is like that 278 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.080 pee weez big adventure world where you feel like, okay, 279 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:35.039 there's a certain kind of magic to the comedy gets 280 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:36.600 you out of situation somehow. 281 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:40.360 I liken it to Beavis and butt Head, where I 282 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.480 remember some writer of that show on the DVD saying 283 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:46.480 the way that you write these characters is you start 284 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:50.240 thinking and then stop, And that's really how you write 285 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:53.120 an idiot. That's the perfect way is that where does 286 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:56.080 logical thought begin? And how do you stop before you 287 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:59.360 get to that point? And that's both of these characters. 288 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:04.320 Even though it's funny that Lloyd's more proactive and Harry's 289 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.360 a little bit smarter. There's a but they still don't 290 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.360 make that doesn't get him out of any troubles. 291 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:12.480 Yeah, yeah, at least Harry can read slightly. 292 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:15.559 Harry can read right. 293 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:19.200 Even though both of them are complete idiots, they can 294 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:24.360 actually both operate motor vehicles. And you mentioned, hey, nice 295 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.679 beaver kind of thing. There's word play in these movies, 296 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.480 but it's a different type of word play. It's so 297 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:34.799 many malaprops where it's just like they think that they're 298 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:36.879 like you said, they think that they're smart, and they 299 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:40.320 will use a phrase, but it's always the wrong phrase. Ers, 300 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:43.679 there's something slightly different about the phrase or wrong about 301 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:47.399 the phrase, And sometimes what they say you can figure 302 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:49.799 out what they're trying to say, and other times it's 303 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:53.000 just what are you trying to say? But I love 304 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.519 the layering of the jokes, and I think the best 305 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:59.480 example of that for me is the end scene of 306 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:03.440 this movie with the Hawaiian Tropic girls, where it becomes 307 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.000 that whole thing of oh, we're looking for two guys 308 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.720 to come slather us with suntan lotion and they're like, oh, yeah, 309 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:14.279 you know the nearest, Oh you're in luck the nearest 310 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:17.960 town is two miles back that way kind of thing, 311 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.159 and you're just like, what, you guys are so stupid, 312 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:23.399 Like why aren't you like jumping at this chance? 313 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:25.799 This is a beer commercial that just drove up to 314 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.639 you and it invited you to join the beer commercial 315 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:29.159 by the pool. 316 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:32.120 The bus drives off and they're just like, oh, you're 317 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.639 so stupid, and they run after the bus and you're like, okay, 318 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:37.440 here we go. Here's the moment is No, the town 319 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.120 isn't that way, it's this other way. And then they 320 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.720 have to turn around and then they go, gosh, just 321 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:44.639 think about those lucky guys that are going to be 322 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.840 with those women and they never get it, they never 323 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:50.919 make that connection. And I'm just like, that's so nice 324 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.000 that every time they just take you up to that 325 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:56.799 cliff and then they let you go, and then they 326 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.159 take you back up to that noe. We're gonna let 327 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:02.519 you go again, and never. The joke is that it 328 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.480 never pays off, which I just love. 329 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:10.160 And to piggyback on the malapropoisms, when Jim Carrey says 330 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.160 rapist wit instead of rapier wit, tell her that I'm 331 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.839 laugh harder in a few weeks like I was losing 332 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.039 my mind watching it today at that moment. 333 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:22.759 I hate to say that one of the ones that 334 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:24.480 is sticking in my mind right now is not from 335 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.880 the first movie. It's from the from Dumb and Dumber two. 336 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:28.880 But when he says, hey, man, I hate to burst 337 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:30.039 your butthole. 338 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:32.720 And it plays too with the cat's. 339 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:35.359 Name, But that's an example of what you're saying, Mike. 340 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.039 You go, Okay, I wouldn't have thought to like I've 341 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:40.480 heard of. There's certain malapropisms that you have heard, and 342 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:42.319 then other ones where you go, okay, I know he 343 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:45.319 means bubble. It doesn't really sound like butthole, but we 344 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:47.640 know what it's just like you're used to the rhythm 345 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:50.000 of the thing. And so I wonder if the writing 346 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:53.440 process of this it's just funny people trying to top 347 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.920 each other with what's the most idiotic As you're saying, 348 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.720 my turn on this scene, Okay, we're gonna have that 349 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.599 be turn. How about this other turn that adds this 350 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:05.480 other layer to it, or even just within one little moment, 351 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:07.359 like one of my favorite moments it's also a little 352 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.200 fun turn is when Harry. It was when he pulls 353 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.440 up on the moped and he tells him that he 354 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:15.960 traded the van for the moped, and he does that 355 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.839 whole thing of just when I thought you couldn't be 356 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:23.599 any dumber, you go and do something like this and 357 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.720 completely redeem yourself. It's like, you have to know what's 358 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.079 the movie, what's the moment we think we're getting in 359 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.759 a movie like this before you know how to subvert 360 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:35.160 it with the complete idiocy, and then the idiocy can 361 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:38.519 be surreal idiocy or it can be just like, that's 362 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:42.079 actually clever wordplay, and someone like Jeff Daniels knows how 363 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.759 to make it really sing because he's a great actor. 364 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.599 But I love that he rose to the occasion of 365 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:50.200 this and apparently despite a lot of people around him 366 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:51.599 not wanting him to be in it. I find that 367 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:56.200 fascinating and almost improbable that Jeff Daniels is as good 368 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.799 in this movie as he is, because he's not known 369 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:02.200 as a natural comedian. But I was watching the behind 370 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:04.599 the scenes feature it on the DVD and somebody pointed 371 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.279 out he gets fifty percent of the last Jim Carrey 372 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:10.599 gets the other fifty percent. It is evenly divided, and 373 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.559 Jim Carrey is a boring comedian. Jeff Daniels is a 374 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:19.200 character actor who became funny, and he is absolutely slaying 375 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.400 it in every single delivery that he gives. 376 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.960 But Jeff Daniels is so dedicated to his craft and 377 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:28.519 he's always looking for those INDs. Like Luckily Jeff Daniels 378 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.839 being local in Michigan, he was invited to one of 379 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:34.039 the film classes that I had in college and he 380 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:36.279 came in and it was right around the time that 381 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:40.519 he was on SNL and he did this amazing impersonation 382 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.799 of Jay Leno and he was like, yeah, I was 383 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:45.920 trying to find the character and trying to do it, 384 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:48.799 and then he said he got into the character by 385 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.359 saying the word Lamborghini and he just was like Lamborghini 386 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:54.359 and he was like, Oh, there's the character. And then 387 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:55.319 he was able to do that. 388 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.720 Oh, Johnny, come on, Johnny like that. 389 00:19:57.720 --> 00:19:58.400 That's whole of thing. 390 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:00.960 Look what the cat dragged in? 391 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:03.480 How you doing, Jenny? 392 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:04.240 Good to see you get. 393 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:06.599 This? 394 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:07.359 Jay? 395 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:09.160 You got something for me? Is that what this is? 396 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:10.000 You got a little something? 397 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.000 Well, yeah, yeah, I think you I got a little 398 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:14.480 get a little certificate made up here for you. 399 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:18.880 Good That shot it says it's. 400 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:22.279 Says a the king of Late Night, the gingling Night 401 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:24.920 says there there will never be another. 402 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:26.119 You know, I means this. 403 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.200 That's nice, Jay, that's nice, Jay? Is it? Is it true? 404 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:32.799 Ply because I could use this later to wipe my butt? 405 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:36.200 That's good. 406 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.200 It's good. You're kidding. That's good. It's funny, it's good. 407 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:41.880 I mean, you know how I feel about. 408 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:42.000 You, Jenny. 409 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:44.799 I mean, you know, King of the Brown Noses. 410 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:49.279 Yes, I mean Johny. 411 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:50.599 I mean, come on, you know it's time to tell 412 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:51.359 the funk a moment. 413 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:52.000 You're kidding. 414 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:56.160 Sure, Jay, I guess you and your grotesque John just 415 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:56.799 what you wanted. 416 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:57.759 Is that it? 417 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:01.079 Jenny? 418 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:04.440 You know you know champlin an, you know champlon. I 419 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:06.759 am having more fun than I've had in years and 420 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:07.519 pressures off. 421 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:09.640 I feel good, folks. What do you say? 422 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.160 I stoock around for about five more years. 423 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:19.079 Because it was Dana Carvey was Johnny Carson. 424 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:22.160 One of the little vocal things he does as Harry 425 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.480 that I think is great. He does it a couple 426 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.359 of times in Dumb and Dummer is where he gets 427 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.480 like a whiny little kid voice and says, right, it's 428 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.319 like in the middle of them going back and forth. 429 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:34.279 It's like he's getting ready to tell on him or 430 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:36.640 something like that. But it's just I feel like that's 431 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.559 that kind of hook that you're talking about that must 432 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:40.799 be like an actorly thing, because when I noticed him 433 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:43.200 doing it, I was like, oh, okay, you know that, 434 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:45.039 you see them doing that, And then of course there's 435 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:46.920 this whole other layer to that, which is and you 436 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:49.839 alluded to, this is the Jim Carrey was having a 437 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:52.559 moment at this point. So this is like him at 438 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.319 the like the height of his Jim carreous, Jim carreousness, 439 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:59.480 Jim Carrey ish nist. It was at his Jim carreyous 440 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:02.160 at this point in his career. For me, this was 441 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:05.279 my favorite one of those, like the Mask, and I 442 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:07.720 did not see ace Ventura until much later, but this 443 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:09.880 was definitely the one that I held on to us. 444 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.960 I just loved the purity of it. It's always fun 445 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.000 to see an actor like Jeff Daniels show up and 446 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:17.480 like really throw themselves into the clowning. And I do 447 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.680 think the craft allows them to do the clowning, but 448 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.200 I think it was bringing something out in Jim Carrey, 449 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:23.880 Like you can see that when they go back and 450 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:26.519 forth it's not like they're trying to It's exactly what 451 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:29.160 you said. It's not like they're trying to steal laughs 452 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:31.279 from each other. It's like they're trying to build up 453 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.079 the other guy's laugh constantly in the movie, and it's 454 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:35.920 really it's just, I don't know, it's just a really 455 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:38.279 fun interplay. And watching the deleted scenes and some of 456 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:40.680 the longer versions of scenes that were in the movie, 457 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.480 you see how much like they really were just getting 458 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:47.000 into character and staying there, or it seems that way. 459 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:49.519 They were teeing each other up for so many lines 460 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:52.240 where it's oh, what did you say about that? And 461 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:55.440 then he waits for the punchline and that, or he'll 462 00:22:55.559 --> 00:23:00.039 pass it back to give Jeff Daniels something else to 463 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.000 work on, and then Daniels will pass it back to 464 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:05.319 Jim Carrey. And Yeah, I love that collaboration that they have, 465 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:09.279 and so much of what we see is in the script, 466 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:12.720 but there's definitely a lot of stuff. The most annoying 467 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:15.480 noise in the world that was something that they came 468 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:18.039 up with, where they're just like, okay, like fucking around 469 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.319 and pretty much messing with Mike Stars. 470 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:25.400 It can't be overstated enough that when this movie was 471 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:29.039 being shot, nobody knew that Jim Carrey was gonna pop. 472 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:33.720 Like literally, they the offer for him before ace Ventura 473 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:37.240 came out was a million dollars. They said, this will 474 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:40.480 last up until the opening weekend of ace Ventura, and 475 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:44.799 then after that point, we are completely screwed. And they waited, 476 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:47.640 and so they ended up paying I think four times more. 477 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:51.640 But it's still it's a perfect example of somebody who 478 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.880 has been who's been starving for years, waiting to attack 479 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:58.839 something and then finally getting that character of just like 480 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:02.319 I know exactly what this is, like, I know exactly 481 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:03.079 how to get this. 482 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:06.359 Well, you remember the story of Jim Carrey rating himself 483 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:09.480 a million dollar check, right, a twenty million dollar check. 484 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.599 Twenty million dollar check, Okay, Yeah, And god, that's hilarious 485 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:16.960 because that was the number. I can't remember which movie 486 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.839 it was where he was making twenty million dollars and 487 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:25.240 cable Guy, Cable Guy, Yeah, okay, Jesus, which so didn't 488 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:28.559 deserve twenty million dollars. I love that movie, but it's 489 00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:32.119 a weird movie and it's a very tonally off movie 490 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:34.480 for me. But yeah, twenty million dollars and that was 491 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:36.599 such a big deal back then, or it was like 492 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.960 Jim Curry got twenty million dollars, Oh my god. But yeah, 493 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.480 he was raking in the dough because he was pulling 494 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.480 in so many numbers with the box office. 495 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:48.599 It was so prevalent. A ten year old like me 496 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.160 knew how much he made for that movie. Which is granted, 497 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.000 I was reading Entertainment Weekly because I was a movie nerd, 498 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.839 but come on, ten year old shouldn't know how much 499 00:24:58.160 --> 00:24:59.559 their favorite actors are making. 500 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.039 We all were probably reading that same issue of Entertainment 501 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.720 Weekly in different places. Nice to picture the sort of 502 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.599 bontage of us. I won't say that it was just 503 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.119 Jim Carrey, but I do think that around that time, 504 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.519 actors getting their salaries up to a certain number was 505 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:16.920 a huge mark of arriving, and it was a huge 506 00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.279 part of Jim Carrey's kind of mythos at that point 507 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:21.119 was that he had gotten to this point and he 508 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.920 was this twenty million dollar man. And yeah, I love 509 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:25.920 cable guy, but I do agree it's an odd one 510 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:27.960 to be the one that he got paid twenty million 511 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.880 for because it's not the most mainstream of the bunch. 512 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.359 But no, I guess it's funny to picture, because I 513 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:36.000 do think Jim Carrey was somebody. I remember there was 514 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.799 a sitcom he was un called Duck Factory, where he 515 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.079 played an animator who drew a duck. I think that's 516 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:43.000 why it was called that, and that was something that 517 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:46.200 was on television before he was on in Living Color 518 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.200 a few years later that he popped up there. I 519 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:51.119 didn't watch that show as much, but certain sketches made 520 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:52.799 it to me, and I knew that there were really 521 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:54.839 funny people on that show, and so I think I 522 00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.240 was ready for this moment when he hit. But like 523 00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:58.839 I said, I think this may have been the first 524 00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:01.039 of his movies that I really made a point to 525 00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:03.599 see in the theater. But what I remember was just 526 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.480 feeling like so much of his persona I would later see. 527 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.039 He does a lot of it in ace Ventura too, 528 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:09.400 but a lot of that what we think of as 529 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:12.160 the Jim Carrey persona just turned up to eleven is 530 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:19.839 Lloyd Christmas. There's it's like a bitter, sarcastic, seething sort 531 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.640 of guy who's in the same way that when Paul 532 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:26.200 Rubins turns on the Pewee Herman persona. There's that's persona. 533 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:26.519 I think. 534 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.960 I feel like this is one of these pure distillations 535 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.279 of the Jim Carrey comedic gift is this character who 536 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:37.799 is everything is so twisted one degree further than it 537 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:39.839 would be with any other character, and I feel like 538 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:41.799 this is such a great Lloyd is just a hilarious 539 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:43.559 character to me. I love to watch his little just 540 00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.599 the way he enters a room, this posture, his expressions, 541 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:50.079 He's constantly doing something and he's like the most awkward 542 00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:53.279 guy trying to be the coolest guy, and it's just 543 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.279 such a it's so cringey, but it's the best kind 544 00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:57.119 of cringe. 545 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.440 And there's like this impotent rage that is just beneath 546 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.599 the surface, like there's an active volcano and he's ready 547 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.880 to blow at any moment. But then he tampers it 548 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:08.200 down and he's able to get it back inside himself. 549 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.880 But then two scenes later it'll just rrupt and then 550 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:13.440 he'll just have to bring it back. 551 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.519 And the Fairly Brothers are so smart when it comes 552 00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:20.599 to and then a yelling as well. Just to have 553 00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.359 all of the different types of comedy. We're talking about wordplay, 554 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.000 we're talking about physical stuff, and then you get some 555 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.640 of these site gags, like when Harry's like, oh, hey, 556 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.720 this is the last of our money, please use a 557 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.920 wisely kind of thing, And then cut to Jim Carrey 558 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:42.160 with that huge fucking cowboy hat, with the paddle ball thing, 559 00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.839 all of the pin wheels in the box and everything. 560 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.160 He's just like, what the fuck's even in the box? 561 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.680 What kind of food did he buy? They just they're 562 00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.640 hitting that thing, and then he sees that Rhode Island 563 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:55.880 slut news there. 564 00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.359 I think about that moment all the time, Mike, Like 565 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.000 every time my wife sends me to the store with 566 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.079 a list of stuff, and then it hits me with 567 00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.799 that reminder be sure to get the DA And I 568 00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:08.160 have this thing in the back of my head of 569 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:09.720 does she think I'm an idiot? Of course I know 570 00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:13.039 to get like what, but I always picture that image 571 00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:15.160 is like that's how she pictures me coming home from 572 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.799 the store. It's a very iconic moment, but it's that 573 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.359 kind of cut from that exact it's the perfect timing 574 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:21.960 of what kind of an idiot do you think I am? 575 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:23.960 And then book someone being an idiot? 576 00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:28.079 That scene has the greatest bit of adr ever. When 577 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.079 the old lady approaches him, and he asks her to 578 00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:35.160 stay there and watch the dispenser so that he can 579 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.839 come back and get his wallet, and he yells, don't 580 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.079 you go dying on me. It's one of those things 581 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.160 where it's clearly them sitting in a booth thinking what's 582 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.519 the funniest way to exit this scene, and somebody coming 583 00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.720 up with it. But there's so many brilliant adr lines. 584 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.720 In this movie that it's hard to count. Here's a 585 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:54.960 purely speculative question. Do you think she was going to 586 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.279 just watch his stuff for him before he insulted her? 587 00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:02.000 He does compound it, The world that they create has 588 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.680 just so many vicious and nasty people in there. I'm 589 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:09.160 so surprised that Lynn Shay isn't a worst person in 590 00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.599 this mooth. You know that she's one of their victims 591 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.799 rather than somebody that can turn it around and make 592 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.400 their lives even more miserable, because there are so many 593 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.079 people that I just want to make their lives miserable 594 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:24.519 that old lady Sea Bass. There's a lot of people 595 00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:27.119 in here that do not like them just from looking 596 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:27.880 at them. 597 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.000 And with Lynn Shape, they really got their money's worth 598 00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:32.960 when they brought her back for Kingpin, where she is 599 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.559 the single most disgusting human being on the face. 600 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:35.759 Of the earth. 601 00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:39.400 Oh good. Between that and then what's her name, Magda 602 00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:43.279 and something about Mary with that leather skin that she's 603 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:48.640 got all but yeah, her with the VV fingers and 604 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.240 that kind of stuff, it's like, oh god, it just 605 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:52.319 turns your stomach. 606 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.480 That's something that the Fairly Brothers have, that is we 607 00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.200 haven't really talked about this, but they do have that 608 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.960 sort of like low comedy or kind of scuzzy or 609 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.960 sleazy quality. Well, that's another brand of comedy that they have. 610 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:09.440 It's gross out, but it's like again, it's a little 611 00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:14.160 bit more. It's like philosophical almost gross out comedy, which 612 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:16.440 puts it in that kind of It's not quite John Waters, 613 00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:21.279 but it is that sort of transgressive almost comedic ideas 614 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.720 in anarchic spirit. Yeah, but there's a shock value to 615 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.839 it that is connected to I often watch these movies 616 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:33.880 and I'm reminded of Oh yeah, there's definitely a great 617 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.160 example is the comedian Fred Stoler, who plays the guy 618 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.359 outside the phone booth. That's a perfect example of a 619 00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:43.400 Fairly Brothers moment. Jim Carrey isn't in this scene. Jeff 620 00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.839 Daniels and isn't in this scene. It's one of the 621 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.960 straight men who's in this scene, but he gets a 622 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.960 new comic antagonist, but he can beat this one because 623 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.680 it's not one of the stars. But like the very 624 00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:58.440 fairly premise of oh, here's a guy who's like a 625 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:02.200 yuppy asshole who's like talking beyond his actual ability to 626 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.559 back up his words, he gets to be taken out 627 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.200 in a punch like that's the gag. It's a little 628 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.119 bit it's not quite Slobs versus Snob's comedy, but there's 629 00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.640 a little bit of that. If you're like it reminds 630 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.119 me of the way might judge if he ever has 631 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.960 like an intellectual person wander into his think, they're always 632 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.359 like gonna be punctured in some way. And I think 633 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:22.880 that in this movie there is a little bit of 634 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:27.319 a you don't really side with with Harry and Lloyd necessarily, 635 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.559 but you don't really side with the stuffed shirts that 636 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.720 they go up against either, And I guess in that 637 00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.000 way it is Mark's brothers e. There's that sort of 638 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.400 anarchic spirit, which is what you just mentioned. 639 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.039 The only thing it's missing is in Margaret Dumont there's 640 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.440 not really a consistent one that goes through the entire film, which. 641 00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:45.319 You might think is going to be Terry Garr at 642 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.480 some point, but no, and then it might be Lauren Holly. 643 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:48.599 But no. 644 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.119 The other thing I wanted to say, too, is those 645 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.759 moments of incredible pathos that this movie has. You're talking 646 00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.440 about the philosopher angle of this, those moments where they're 647 00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.799 just at their wits end and and oh my god, 648 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.000 my parakeet's head popped off and everything is just going 649 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.920 to shit, and they have that big teary moment and 650 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.640 they're embracing, and then you get something like that towards 651 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:15.000 the end too, and it's just like, oh, Harry, you 652 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.279 betrayed me, and all these things. They have to come 653 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.079 to their moments of reconciliation and everything, and I'm just like, yeah, 654 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.799 this is very serious right here, and it's actually being 655 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:29.000 played for being serious, even though these guys are complete idiots. 656 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:33.400 I think those moments are there's that little extra twist 657 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.640 of Jim Carrey really putting it on when he's crying 658 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.599 or whatever. But You're right, those moments have a certain 659 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.319 comedy to them that only works because that that's where 660 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.240 Jeff Daniels is playing it straight. Jim Carrey is even 661 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.559 playing those moments related straight where he's I just want 662 00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.359 somebody in my life. That's both ridiculous to hear Lloyd 663 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.319 Christmas say, but it's also, like you said, a true 664 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.200 moment of pathos. That is, it kind of gives a 665 00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.839 clown that little extra whatever thing it is that you 666 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.480 root for these types of characters. I guess is there's 667 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.000 just you don't want to see anybody get kicked around 668 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:06.440 too much. 669 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.200 When you mentioned that Fred Stoller moment, and that also 670 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:14.680 brought to mind the Harlan Williams moment where it's here's 671 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.599 the ultimate figure of authority with him being this motorcycle 672 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:21.359 cop and the joke being pulled on him unknowingly. And 673 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.480 it's not like they set out for him to drink 674 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:27.880 Lloyd's piss, but that's what happens. They even try to 675 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.440 stop him from doing it. But yeah, and then the 676 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.119 moment where he's just you better get out of here 677 00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.680 kind of thing. It's just all right. There could have 678 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.599 been a lot more trouble there. But I love the 679 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.079 way that they play that moment. I love Harlan Williams 680 00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.319 his turn in Something about Mary is one of my 681 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.480 favorite things in the world. The whole six minute ABS thing. Oh, 682 00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:49.599 it's brilliant. 683 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:51.119 You learn of this thing? 684 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.279 The eight minute abs? 685 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:56.200 Yeah sure, eight minute aps yeah. The exercise video. 686 00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:58.599 Yeah, well this is gonna blow that right out of 687 00:33:58.640 --> 00:33:59.000 the water. 688 00:33:59.160 --> 00:33:59.880 Listen to this. 689 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:10.440 Seven minute apps. 690 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:11.000 Right, yes, okay, all right, I see where you're going. 691 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:11.760 Think about it. 692 00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:13.920 You walk into a video store, you see eight minute 693 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.800 abs sitting there. There are seven minute abs right beside it. 694 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:17.880 Which one are you gonna pick? 695 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:18.199 Man? 696 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.079 I'm I would go for the seven Yeah, bingo. 697 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.440 Man, bingo, seven minute apps, and we guarantee just to 698 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.320 go to workout as the eight minute folk? 699 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.079 Do you guarantee it's you? How do you do that? 700 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.079 If you're not happy with the first seven minutes, we're 701 00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.079 gonna send you the extra minute fright. 702 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.280 See that's it. That's our motto. 703 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:40.760 That's where we're coming from. 704 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.920 That's from A to B. He's always like that. But 705 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.800 what I love is a guy like that shows up 706 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.039 and again I'm playing the state trooper who's pulling him over. 707 00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.719 I get this bit. It's a gross out gag. It 708 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.639 was just like everything is dialed in just perfectly to 709 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.440 being the kind of asshole just gets his come up 710 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.800 and for the way he's handling these characters, and it's 711 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.639 like it's part of the comic conceit that they're going 712 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.000 to run into some people, Like you said, who asked 713 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:05.320 for it? 714 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.239 Oh yeah. He so reminds me of the James Keach 715 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.960 character from a vacation when when they pulled Clark over 716 00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.599 after the dog has been tied to the bumper, he 717 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:19.199 probably kept up for a little while. 718 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.239 That's a great example of an actor playing a moment 719 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:26.679 really straight, like really dramatic. It's like the like Trlton 720 00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:28.679 Heston in is it Wayne's world that he's in? Or 721 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.320 Wayne's world too where he's shollow? 722 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:31.119 Yeah, Wayne's world? 723 00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:31.320 Two? 724 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.280 Yeah, But they swap an actor out for a better 725 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.960 actor and they bring in Tarlton Heston to give a monologue. 726 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.320 I once knew a girl who lived on Gordon Street. 727 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.280 That was a long time ago, when I was young. 728 00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.199 Do we have to put up with this? 729 00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.440 I mean, you know, can't we get a better actor? 730 00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:50.159 I know it's a small part, but I think we 731 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.000 can do better than this. 732 00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:04.360 Gordon Street, Yes, Gordon Street. I once knew a girl 733 00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.760 who lived on Gordon Street a long time ago when 734 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:11.679 I was a young man, not a day passage. I 735 00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:17.119 don't think of her and promise I made I will 736 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:23.760 always keep at one perfect day on Gordon Street. That's 737 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:25.800 five blocks up too over. 738 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:29.079 Thank you. 739 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:32.599 Someone playing a moment like that straight in the middle 740 00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.559 of this ridiculous comedy, it almost always works, especially if 741 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.800 you get an actor who you know who isn't on 742 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.159 the face of a comedic force. 743 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:44.559 Thinking about these actors or these characters that kind of 744 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.199 get there come up and don't, or you're just wondering 745 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.760 what kind of person am I running into the waitress 746 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.519 at the diner. I love the giggles that Jeff Daniels 747 00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.000 gets when Lloyd calls her flow and he just like 748 00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.239 starts doing that thing with his hands, or he's just 749 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.079 beyond I'm out of control with the laughter. 750 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.719 Flow from the TV show excuse me. 751 00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:17.960 Flow Flow, Like the TV show. 752 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:21.920 What's the Soup? 753 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.559 Dis You Were the Day? 754 00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:30.280 That sounds good. I'll have that when Harry starts complaining 755 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.280 about no bubbles drink and she just takes it and 756 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.760 blows on the bubbles, and I'd like that in the 757 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.119 script that was actually chocolate milk he's this isn't mixed 758 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.760 up very well, and then she blows all these bubbles 759 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:43.400 in the milk. 760 00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:45.880 There are tons of little moments like that, and one 761 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.840 of the funniest moments to me for whatever reason, and 762 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.280 I got a screenshot of it so that I would 763 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.679 so that I would have the line right, because it's 764 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.440 really nothing. But it's the moment where he's coming out 765 00:37:57.440 --> 00:37:59.760 of the gas station and he sees the guys drinking 766 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.880 the big gulps and he says, hey, guys, oh big gulps. Huh, 767 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:10.519 all right, see you later and walks away. I think 768 00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.119 that moment is an ad libbed moment, but I don't 769 00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.519 know how moments like that come about. But that just 770 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.159 is such a great example of why these characters are funny. 771 00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.360 Is because Lloyd feels like he's supposed to say something 772 00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:23.320 and have a moment with these people but has nothing 773 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.519 to say, and then it's like, all right, cool, and 774 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.599 in his mind he just had a he just he 775 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:29.679 just bantered with some people. But it's just the most 776 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.559 unnecessary thing to say that you could ever say, and 777 00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:34.000 then just to say, all right, see you later. 778 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.039 There's a similar moment when he's in the bar and 779 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:41.199 he's been waiting for Mary for six hours and finally leaves. 780 00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.960 He notices a newspaper article that says man lands on moon, 781 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:46.159 and he goes. 782 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:46.519 We did it. 783 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.159 We landed on the moon. And that was apparently improvised 784 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.400 because they put that as part of set dressing, and 785 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.320 it just that's probably my favorite moment in the entire 786 00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:59.199 I quote that constantly anytime anybody says something stupid, so 787 00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:00.840 we land on the moon. 788 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:03.679 What I love about that moment that I agree it's 789 00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.159 hilarious is even before he shouts, just that he's as 790 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.519 he's walking out, he like to himself says, it's great, 791 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.760 like he's just having a private little moment of pride. 792 00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.679 Another really smart thing that they do too, is they 793 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:19.079 have those fantasy sequences. And here we're talking about how 794 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:23.000 these characters are basically cartoon characters, they can almost literally 795 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:27.320 be cartoon characters in those moments, especially the Dreen sequence 796 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.159 that he has where he's out with Mary and the 797 00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.400 guy starts kissing on Mary's arm and it has a 798 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:38.440 whole fight in the restaurant, and you get the chef 799 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.920 coming out from the back who's like a karate master, 800 00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:43.480 and all these things are just the end of the 801 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.079 playing with the like a punching bag with the guy's 802 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.400 nuts and everything. But I love the physical again. Physical 803 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.000 comedy and Jim Carrey go together was so beautifully. The 804 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.719 way he's moving his arms back and forth is he's 805 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.519 like coming up to battle the kung fu guy. Or 806 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.199 when he holds his hands up against the side of 807 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.079 his face and starts making that amazing face. Oh, it's 808 00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.239 so good, and it's just yeah, this is why Jim 809 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.320 Carrey was the twenty million dollar man and within a 810 00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:11.199 few years. 811 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.880 And that scene goes on for six minutes. There's four 812 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:18.519 different fantasies in one fantasy sequence and they all build 813 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.440 to that point of him putting the cook's heart in 814 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.960 the doggy bag, and that's the perfect exclamation point for 815 00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:25.960 that kind of scene. 816 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.840 I love the fireside ski lodge scene with all the sweaters. 817 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:34.199 Just his idiotic idea of what adults hanging out looks 818 00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.679 like and his idiotic idea of being the life of 819 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.039 the party is so great in his own farts, and 820 00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.800 he's just like throwing snacks in his face and stuff, 821 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.639 and everyone's laughing and clapping for Oh, it's so perfect. 822 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.480 They and Dumb and Dumber two. They do that. That's 823 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:53.440 a similar sort of montage, but it's Harry's idiotic idea 824 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.320 of what being a dad would be. It's a similar 825 00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.000 idea of just like you said, Mike, vignettes that are 826 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.639 just a little too real to fit this world. But 827 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:03.920 you get to see them just piled up and they 828 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.159 do escalate in a little chunk like that. It really 829 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.440 is an opportunity to do a slightly different, broader form 830 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:11.079 of comedy. 831 00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.000 It's also a good chance for them to do some 832 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.960 outfit changes since they're in the same outfits for almost 833 00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.519 the entire first half of the film until they get 834 00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.320 to Aspen, until they finally open up that briefcase and 835 00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.480 see all that money in there, and then it's just 836 00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:30.159 an amazing orgy of depravity of the way that they're 837 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:33.599 spending this money. And just don't worry, we'll write out 838 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.920 IOUs and you're gonna want to keep that one. When 839 00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:37.840 they talk about. 840 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:44.960 Car, just their outfits, those boots, the ruffled tuxedos. When 841 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.440 they get out of the car and he's wearing like 842 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:50.239 the big fur boots, that seems hilarious, but yeah, this tuxedos. 843 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.480 Their idea of dressing up is another thing that's like, 844 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:55.679 this is what an eight year old would think dressing 845 00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:56.360 up look like. 846 00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.199 And he has the banaka spray, but he sprays it 847 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.559 not in his own out but in Charles Rocket's face. 848 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.840 It's funny that's paid off. He does it earlier before 849 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.960 he goes in to talk to Mary, and then it's 850 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.079 pay He does it again later, but this time, yeah, 851 00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.079 the payoff is he hit someone in the face with it. 852 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.320 So yeah, it's a good kind of recurring gag. 853 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.800 Like I said, there's heist part of it, or crime 854 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.079 keeper kind of thing. It's a road movie in here, 855 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.480 of course, it's a comedy going on, but you just 856 00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.679 get so much because really it takes such a major 857 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.079 turn once they finally do get to Aspen. And then 858 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:33.920 it's the character of Beth who keeps coming in and out, 859 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:36.599 like her at the gas station and then her at 860 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.679 the bar again later on. I feel so bad for her, 861 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:41.960 but at the same time she's so ditsy and just 862 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.679 doesn't seem to understand what's happening. But then that's the 863 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.920 joke on us where it turns out that she's an 864 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.760 FBI agent. It's like, oh, okay, that makes a lot 865 00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.599 more sense her and the guy from RoboCop, right, the guy. 866 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:57.679 That plaid CP Yeah, yeah, yeah. 867 00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.320 He's the other agent in there. And I always when 868 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.719 he shows up, especially when he's getting the whole lowdown 869 00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:07.639 on how they murdered Mike's star, poor mic Star. 870 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.320 But again, when you think of him, this is maybe 871 00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.920 the role that at least I when I picture him, 872 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.440 I picture him in the car with them telling him 873 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:18.280 to shut up. 874 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.719 I picture this and mad Dog and Glory. Those are 875 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:23.320 the two for me. 876 00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.239 What a great mug, what a great character actor. And again, 877 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.000 someone who knows exactly what he's doing in this, knows 878 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:33.239 he's playing the heavy, but also knows that we're going 879 00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.039 to be watching him for how he interacts with these 880 00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.559 two guys, and if he's too mean to them, he 881 00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:42.360 will seem mean, but we're with him in terms of 882 00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.440 being annoyed by them. I don't know. It's just something 883 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.039 that I think that playing a heavy and a comedy 884 00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.840 like this, it is like a weird skill because there 885 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.599 is a certain amount of menace to him. Even with 886 00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:55.320 all that, you believe he would kill them if if 887 00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:56.719 it seemed like the right thing to do. He would 888 00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:58.679 just kill them without a thought, but because he's trying 889 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.559 to figure them out, he dies. 890 00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.599 Yes, yeah, and he's so ready to poison them. And 891 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:11.239 then they turned it around not knowing oh his pills. 892 00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:15.480 Oh yeah, here's your pills right here, and now acuy 893 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.800 pills too. Yeah, so good. So def That's how I 894 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.239 knew her because she was a VJ for a long time. 895 00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.280 I mostly knew her as Duff. I never knew her 896 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.159 as a real name. And I love that whole thing 897 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:32.320 of her playing basically a male character but just playing 898 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:34.960 it straight, even to the point where she's like, I 899 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.920 got to pitch a loaf, play Jesus Christ. 900 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.360 Apparently they gave her the role because she was such 901 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.920 a staunch supporter of the script, and they said, this 902 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.719 character is a man, but do you want to play 903 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.599 and she's like, fucking I want to play it. And 904 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.599 that's how you that's how you end up in movies sometimes. 905 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:55.559 Yeah, And I think it's great. I feel like they 906 00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.039 really did not rewrite that role for her and just 907 00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.840 kept it the same way, because that's exactly the way 908 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:03.239 it's written in the screenplay. 909 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.440 I think. I think the Fairly Brothers frequently there's a 910 00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:08.840 story like that with who gets cast and like they 911 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.039 do a lot of like real casting from just the 912 00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.480 celebrity pool, but they also do their They have their 913 00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.119 kind of regular people that come up with them, that 914 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.320 are friends of theirs, or that they just want to 915 00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.119 stick in a role. There's always interesting casting like that 916 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:23.960 in their movies. 917 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.559 And as the movies go on, those roles get bigger 918 00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:30.320 and bigger, Like the bartender at the bar is one 919 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.719 of their good friends, ends up being the guy who 920 00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.599 wears eyeshadow and Kingpin as his own bowling outlet. 921 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:42.079 Isn't he also in Me Myself and Irene and one 922 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:42.719 of the roles? 923 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.400 Yeah, yes, I think he's in all of them. I 924 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.239 think pretty sure he's in all of their movies. 925 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:50.199 I think that was the last one that I really 926 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.960 found myself enjoying the way that I did the ones 927 00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:56.119 that came before it. I feel like after that is 928 00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.159 when the Fairly Brothers movies just started to feel a 929 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.480 little bit I don't know, sloppier or something to me. 930 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.440 I don't know. I haven't watched them all after that one, 931 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.559 but for a while there I was really from Dumb 932 00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.400 and Dumber to kingpinned something about Mary. It was like 933 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.440 as a comedy fan, I was just like, no one 934 00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.199 else is making comedies like this, and then Something about Mary. Really, 935 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:19.760 I haven't watched it in a long time, but it's 936 00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.840 one of those times I remember laughing so hard in 937 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.760 the theater and being in a room full of people 938 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.679 that were laughing that hard. Another time was Peewe's Big Adventure, 939 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.559 but I remember the big laughs in those movies, and 940 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.039 Something About Mary had three or four just long stretches 941 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.840 where the entire theater was just roaring. I don't know 942 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:39.719 if I've seen movies like that in a while, or 943 00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:42.119 if they even make I don't know. People like to 944 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:43.679 talk about how they don't make a certain kind of 945 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.559 movie anymore, but I do think the sort of big 946 00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:50.280 budget comedy or mid budget comedy, it's a form of 947 00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.880 that we just don't see that often. I'm streaming now, yeah. 948 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:59.119 I mean their last movie, Dear Santa was just I 949 00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:02.360 think that was just to Amazon and it was not 950 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:04.480 even a regular release. 951 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.320 And Ricky stinicky that I don't know which fairly brother 952 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.519 wrote that one, but that one ended up and then 953 00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:14.519 the longest beer run in history or something that ended 954 00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:15.199 up on Apple. 955 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.480 So even when they go solo. 956 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.679 They can't get them theatrically, So I. 957 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:24.599 Remember Dumb and Dumber Kingpin. There's something about Mary, and 958 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:29.159 then it was it was just two years between. There's 959 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.559 something about marrying Me myself and Irene, and then there's 960 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:36.360 Osmosis Jones, which I don't think. I saw, Shallow hal 961 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:41.000 Stuck on You, and then I think Stuck on You 962 00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.000 was the last comedy of theirs that I really saw, 963 00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:48.639 because Yeah, Fever, Pitch, No Thank You, Jimmy Fellon, No, 964 00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.960 Thank You, Heartbreak Kid. I didn't want to see a 965 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:53.000 remake of that. 966 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.679 Saw it on a date, regretted it. 967 00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:58.159 Hall Pass, I bet you I saw hall Pass. 968 00:47:58.239 --> 00:47:58.480 I know. 969 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:00.400 I actually saw The Three Student Z. 970 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:01.320 Yeah. 971 00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:03.119 I actually think that movie is underrated. 972 00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.519 The Three Stooges I think so too, and I think 973 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.199 the guys that actually played the Stooges are really good. 974 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.400 And then it's got our friend of the show, Craig 975 00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:12.800 Berko in there as well. 976 00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:14.719 Right, I know, I think Three Stooges felt right, And 977 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.960 I can't say I loved the whole experience of watching it, 978 00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:19.360 but I had fun with it and I liked it, 979 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.000 and I was glad that they did it the way. 980 00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:21.280 They did it. 981 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.440 It's an odd movie, but I was glad that they 982 00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.639 just said, let's make a new Three Stooges thing. Let's 983 00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:27.800 not do a biopic, Let's not try to make a 984 00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:32.039 movie necessarily side like a movie sized story. It was 985 00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:34.880 an old fashioned approach to them, singly. 986 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.599 Jim Carrey was supposed to be curly, I know. 987 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:42.440 Oh wow, the was supposed to be mo yeah, and 988 00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.320 Sean Penn was supposed to be Larry Larry, Yeah. 989 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:45.519 That's right. 990 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.239 Yeah, I did remember that. 991 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.119 I think their movies have often had cast things like 992 00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:52.440 that sound like, oh my god, because remember what it 993 00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.400 was supposed to be. Was it Jim Carrey and Woody 994 00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:56.679 Allen that were supposed to be stuck on. 995 00:48:56.679 --> 00:49:00.239 You Woody Allen? And I'm blanking on who the other 996 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:01.119 person was, But. 997 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.199 It was somebody like, not Woody Allen. It was somebody 998 00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:05.840 in that sort of physical. 999 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:10.400 Somebody like thirty years younger than Woody Allen's blanking. 1000 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.519 Then the movie that comes out, which is not a 1001 00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:14.960 it's not a this is not a ding on the movie. 1002 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.400 It's just the movie that comes out is Gret Kinnear 1003 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.880 and Matt Damon, two actors who are very fine and 1004 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:25.840 very funny, but not the almost experiment in celebrity casting 1005 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:27.360 that it sounded like it was going to be in 1006 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.559 the beginning of Oh, these two people who have such 1007 00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.039 different energies. This is more like two good actors that 1008 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:33.960 are going to find a way to make this work versus. 1009 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:36.239 But when it was Woody Allen and somebody, it was like, 1010 00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:37.920 what is Woody Allen even going to do in a 1011 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.440 fairly brother's context. Are they going to have him like 1012 00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:43.519 shitting his pants and stuff like that? Surely they would, 1013 00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.440 But at the same time, is that why he wasn't 1014 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.599 in it? Is that that kind of thing's never really 1015 00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:48.199 going to happen. 1016 00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.360 They deleted that scene for Manhattan Race. 1017 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:52.880 Shit right exactly. 1018 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.199 I'm seeing Jim Carry was once attached to the film 1019 00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.599 with Woody Allen in talks and plays brother. Yeah, so yeah, 1020 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:04.599 that would pretty interesting to see those two together. And 1021 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.760 I didn't remember that Ben Carson, the magical hands of 1022 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.639 Sleepy Ben Carson were in that movie as well. 1023 00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:13.239 Have you ever heard the notion of the screening room 1024 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.000 in Heaven where like all the movies that didn't get 1025 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:19.480 made are exist. I would love to see the version 1026 00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.639 of this that got made in some alternate universe with 1027 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:23.639 Woody Allen and Jim Carrey, that would be an interesting 1028 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.480 thing to see. Maybe not now, but back then I 1029 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:27.719 would have been interested to see. 1030 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.119 Yeah, now, poor whatd he's ninety years old. I don't 1031 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.480 know how spry he is. There's a mention of the 1032 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.199 Menendez brothers in this who will probably get pardoned very soon, 1033 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.800 and the right before the story about Pete and being 1034 00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:48.800 built by those horrible monsters that sold them a head parakeet. 1035 00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.239 You sold my dead to a blind kid. 1036 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.920 Polly wanted Cracker, and there was a little bit more 1037 00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:57.199 of him too that ended up on the cutting room floor, 1038 00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:01.840 a little bit of the men character taking the bird 1039 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.519 and throwing it and being like a bird flew south 1040 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:06.119 for the winter. 1041 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.559 We do feel slightly bad for him that he gets 1042 00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.760 murdered by them, but he pulled the head off a bird, 1043 00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:17.280 and he does it so thoughtlessly. It's like that you're like, oh, yeah, 1044 00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:19.559 there is this moment in the script that tells us 1045 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:21.719 like we shouldn't feel too bad for whatever happens to 1046 00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.840 this guy. We just relate to him because we would 1047 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:26.960 be annoyed to be with those two guys in a 1048 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:29.599 car as well, but he's still a pretty nasty guy. 1049 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.400 I mentioned how they never really talk about what the 1050 00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:36.880 crime is, and it is so late in the movie 1051 00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.880 that you find out that her husband was kidnapped, and 1052 00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:43.880 then right towards the very end where you actually get 1053 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:48.519 to see the husband before is that another fantasy sequence 1054 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:52.800 to shoot the husband And then looking at those deleted scenes, 1055 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.760 so so much stuff about the husband and this whole 1056 00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:59.519 thing of the husband being kept in a little foot 1057 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:05.440 locker and Charles rocket like torturing him basically and blowing 1058 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.440 cigar smoke into the hole that they have for his 1059 00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:12.320 air hole, dropping a lit either cigar or cigarette into 1060 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:12.960 the hole. 1061 00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:15.000 Very smart of them to trim all that. 1062 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.320 Oh god, yeah, deaf at one point leans over and 1063 00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.760 gets spit on, so she takes a broom and starts 1064 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.840 trying to like bash whoever's inside with the broom handle. 1065 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.639 There is one little remainder where it's when they're talking 1066 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.599 about how they murdered how Harry and Lloyd murdered those snowowls, 1067 00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:36.199 and there's a push in where it's Charles Rockett on 1068 00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:37.920 one side of the screen and stuff on the other 1069 00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:41.480 side of the screen, and eventually had they not cut away, 1070 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.320 you would see that the trunk was out on the 1071 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.719 driveway and it was scooching itself down trying to escape. 1072 00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:51.400 That was very judicious because you watch those scenes here, 1073 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:55.920 just like glad all this stuff, Glad everything that is 1074 00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:59.480 cut out of this movie. I'm so glad it I'll 1075 00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:02.559 end up the cutting room floor because it really didn't 1076 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:05.320 need anything. I don't think there's one joke. There's some 1077 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.159 good jokes, but I don't think any joke really needed 1078 00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:10.320 to be back in this movie. And I really appreciate 1079 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.800 how tight it moves. I didn't need to see the 1080 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.079 mind getting his hand shot when Duff is now trying 1081 00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:19.840 to take the shot that Harry when his tongue is 1082 00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.079 stuck to the chair lift or anything. I didn't need 1083 00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:25.199 to see that, but it was worth a laugh on 1084 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:28.920 the deleted scene. But the way that this movie stands now, 1085 00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:32.280 I think it just runs like a very well oiled machine. 1086 00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:36.519 And unfortunately you can't see the theatrical cut on high definition. 1087 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:40.400 They put a fell unrated version which is eight minutes longer, 1088 00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:44.000 and you can see where probably these sins were trimmed 1089 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.760 to get like a PG. Thirteen, But they just they 1090 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:50.519 feel off. There's something about the kind of the circadian 1091 00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:54.480 rhythm of what the movie's doing and just adding anything 1092 00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:57.840 to it. It's it's lean, it's stripped down. There's not 1093 00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:00.440 a lot of fat on it, and the more you 1094 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.960 push into it, the less effective it becomes. And I 1095 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:05.800 wish that if they ever do a four K, which 1096 00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:07.840 I hope they do, that they at least put the 1097 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:09.920 theatrical version on there because I miss it. 1098 00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:13.840 Yeah, those unrated versions were often like you just went 1099 00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:17.039 back one version. If the movie we saw was version 1100 00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:19.840 two B, you went back to version two A that 1101 00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.559 had more fat on every scene, and it was just like, 1102 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.679 unrated really just meant, oh, we never put this in 1103 00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:26.880 front of the board. It didn't necessarily it always sounded 1104 00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:28.719 like it meant there was gonna be wild stuff, but 1105 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.280 it really just meant this wasn't officially rated. But I 1106 00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:34.920 think that interesting thing you mentioned the mime scene. I 1107 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.440 did think it was funny to see that someone should 1108 00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:43.400 market the cinematic era of dumping on mimes in movie. 1109 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.199 There had to be the first time a mime was 1110 00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.039 depicted as somebody who gets pushed over or we all 1111 00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:51.519 think it's funny that they get hurt, but even the 1112 00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:54.719 mime has it coming, Like he gets his handshot, but 1113 00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:58.679 he's making fun of Harry in a vulnerable moment, and 1114 00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.079 he's making so much fun that it's okay. You're going 1115 00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.119 from just being a mime to being someone who deserves 1116 00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.599 a comedy come up. And so I think that that's interesting. 1117 00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.159 But there's a long tradition of mimes being the butt 1118 00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:10.840 of jokes, and I think it's interesting because you had 1119 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.599 to cast a mime to play that part. So I 1120 00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:15.159 wonder what it always. I wonder what it felt like 1121 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:16.880 to be a mime. Did you feel like a sellout 1122 00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:19.079 when you went home? Going Yeah, I got another one 1123 00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:20.639 of those film gigs where it was all about how 1124 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:21.440 lame mimes are. 1125 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:24.559 It couldn't have been an episode of Shields in Yurnel. 1126 00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:26.320 Had to be another goddamn movie. 1127 00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:28.199 Had to be another movie where I get pushed in 1128 00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:30.400 front of a train or something like that. But I 1129 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.400 don't know. I don't know what the first abused mime 1130 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.760 on screen was. But so much or make that listical. 1131 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.920 I thought it was interesting too to see how they're 1132 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.800 basically playing with things in some of those deleted scenes, 1133 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.000 like you get two versions of one scene where there's 1134 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.800 one of the hotel's staff where there's a scene early 1135 00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:55.239 on where he brings them something and they're like, oh, 1136 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.840 there's some money for you there on the table and goes, oh, 1137 00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.440 I accidentally grabbed two is I don't care? It's so 1138 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.440 two hundred dollars and they're like oh yeah, and they 1139 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:05.639 start to talk to him like we're come from the 1140 00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.039 same cloth or whatever, and just really stop the bond 1141 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:11.440 with this guy. And then at the end he is 1142 00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:17.119 basically walking them out to their vehicle and they're just say, oh, yeah, 1143 00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:18.880 we've got to go back, and this is going to 1144 00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:19.559 be so rough. 1145 00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.079 Maybe you could both stay right here. 1146 00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:26.000 This joint's a little rich for our blood. 1147 00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:28.880 Bernie, Well, we might be able to find you a 1148 00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:32.679 free room somewhere, After all, you once told me we 1149 00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.320 all come from the same mold. You just don't have 1150 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:36.400 any do right now? 1151 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:38.239 Are you on the level? 1152 00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.960 Absolutely, We'll slide you into one of those employee rooms, 1153 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:49.159 providing you don't mind working one half day a week. 1154 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.960 Doing what well, I don't know, doing what I do. 1155 00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:56.280 I can train you myself. 1156 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:16.519 Oh yeah, right, is there anything. 1157 00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:21.119 Else something where you don't have to have your. 1158 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:31.639 Nose up people's butts all day. 1159 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:38.719 You know, maybe you should try your luck along the road. 1160 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:48.880 Yeah, And that's one version. Then there's another where he's. 1161 00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:51.599 Like, oh, I think we could possibly work something out. 1162 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:54.199 Are you on the level? 1163 00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:58.239 Absolutely, We'll slide you into one of those employee rooms. 1164 00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:01.440 Providing you don't mind doing a few work a week. 1165 00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:03.840 Doing what. 1166 00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.239 Hey, I've got a great idea. 1167 00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:08.760 You can look after my grandson. 1168 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:09.920 He's out here on a visit. 1169 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.079 Poor little Tyke suffered a traumatic experience. 1170 00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:14.920 You've probably read about it. 1171 00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:18.440 Here. 1172 00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:18.760 He is. 1173 00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:21.559 Now, Hi, Billy, come over here. 1174 00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:25.320 I want you to meet these two nice men. 1175 00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.760 That actually might have been funny, but you have to 1176 00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:34.679 have the setup in order to have the payoff. And 1177 00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.039 I'm glad that they cut both because it's just like, yeah, 1178 00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:39.559 let's just keep this thing moving. But yeah, I agree 1179 00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:43.440 with you, right. I dislike unrated cuss sometimes because yeah, no, 1180 00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.440 I like the rhythm of the comedy and you get 1181 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.960 those weird things like The Blues Brothers where they just 1182 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.480 added in all of these little bits and I'm just like, no, 1183 00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:56.800 you ruined the pacing of your own film by adding 1184 00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.920 all these little bits in this thing sang like a 1185 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:05.119 like an orchestra, and now it's so clunky and just 1186 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.320 it feels like we are having an extra beat every 1187 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:09.199 single scene. 1188 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:11.639 Nobody walked out of either of these movies and said, 1189 00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:14.199 you know what, this needed to be eight minutes longer. 1190 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:18.159 There is a moment where you go the DVD Blu 1191 00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:20.159 Ray era was such a good era because you got 1192 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.679 to see those moments and I appreciate, Oh, some of 1193 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:26.000 the choices they made without seeing them shoved back into 1194 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:29.119 the movie feels wrong headed when most of the time, 1195 00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:33.400 nine times out of ten watching deleted scenes, I would say, whoever, 1196 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.159 I watched them with, oh, I see why they cut 1197 00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.280 that out. Oh I see why they cut that out. 1198 00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:39.639 It's yeah, it's not even just it's rare to want 1199 00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:41.440 a movie to have been longer. You see those moments 1200 00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:44.519 and you usually go, oh, I appreciate the editor's craft 1201 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:47.639 even more now seeing that moment, because yeah, even if 1202 00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.280 it's a funny bit, sometimes you need the rhythm and 1203 00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:51.039 you need the pacing. 1204 00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.079 Also with the extras on the Blu ray or DVD, 1205 00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.400 it's nice too, where you get those moments where Jeff 1206 00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.880 Daniels is talking about how he did some of those scenes. 1207 01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.519 Like the diarrhea scene, you actually get to hear, like 1208 01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:07.039 the wild audio on the set, you hear somebody say, Harry, 1209 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:10.360 what are you doing? And it's obviously not Lauren Holly. 1210 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:13.280 It's just some grip on set or something just yelling 1211 01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:17.320 that at him and oh, I'm shaving. But then you 1212 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.840 get to see more of that take and how he just, yeah, 1213 01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:23.639 I probably did that for four minutes straight than just 1214 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:25.920 talking about how difficult it was to come up with 1215 01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.480 all those different expressions and things. And actually getting to 1216 01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:33.079 see him making those faces while he's talking about doing that, 1217 01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:35.719 I thought was really good and really fun to see. 1218 01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:38.960 And he talks about Clint Eastwood meeting him and saying 1219 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.679 that same thing happened to me the strangest thing because 1220 01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:46.280 it's Clint fucking Eastwood. Did you really suspect that he 1221 01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:49.519 would ever have a situation like that? But apparently he did. 1222 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:52.519 I love the closed caption set at all. It just 1223 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.960 said all caps and brackets sparting and defecating. 1224 01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:58.559 I watched this with the captions on too it I 1225 01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:00.960 just thought that was hilarious. Yes, that was so good. 1226 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.039 Did you happen to read the novelization? I didn't get 1227 01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:04.559 a chance to read it, but I was wondering how 1228 01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:06.280 that part was treated in the novelization. 1229 01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.599 Yeah, I did not, but I really probably should have. 1230 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:12.039 Yeah, that one scene at least, I'm curious how they 1231 01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:14.320 pulled it off. Did they write it like it's dramatic 1232 01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:15.599 or do they you know what I mean? How do 1233 01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:17.400 you write about that right scene? 1234 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.320 Anyway, I'm curious. All right, we're going to take a 1235 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.000 break and we'll be back with an interview with Bennett Yellen, 1236 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.519 who wrote the screenplay for Dumb and Dumber with the 1237 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:28.239 Fairly Brothers. Now, this was recorded a little while ago. 1238 01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:31.000 You actually hear him make references to the writer's strike. 1239 01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:34.159 Can you remember that? Remember when we thought that AI 1240 01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:38.800 was going to be dangerous and take away people's jobs. Geez, 1241 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.719 what a different time that was. Anyway, we'll be back 1242 01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:44.000 with all that right after these messages. 1243 01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:49.800 Get ready to dive deep into the life, career, and 1244 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:54.079 unforgettable moments of the one and Only Chevy Chase. Join 1245 01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:57.400 us on an exciting journey through the illustrious career of 1246 01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:02.199 this comedy icon as we explore groundbreaking roles, behind the 1247 01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:06.400 scenes stories, and timeless contributions to the world of entertainment. 1248 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:11.199 Each episode of the Chasing chevy Chase podcast brings you 1249 01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:16.239 expert analysis and nostalgic reflections on Chevy Chase's most iconic 1250 01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:21.800 characters in classic films like National Lampoon's Vacation, Caddy Shack, 1251 01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:26.599 and Fletch. Whether you're a diehard Chevy Chase aficionado or 1252 01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:30.599 simply curious about the man behind the laughter, Chasing chevy 1253 01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:34.159 Chase is your go to podcast for all things chevy Chase. 1254 01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:37.559 Tune in and join the conversation as we celebrate the 1255 01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:41.320 life and legacy of a true Hollywood legend. Don't miss out. 1256 01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:45.840 Subscribe now to Chasing chevy Chase wherever you get your podcasts, 1257 01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:47.360 and let the adventure begin. 1258 01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:59.599 Obviously, I want to ask you about Dumb and Dummer 1259 01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:01.599 and your work with the Fairly Brothers, but I would 1260 01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:04.880 love to know more about you and where you grew 1261 01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:06.920 up and how you got into the business. 1262 01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.360 I was born and raised in Los Angeles. I don't 1263 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:14.320 meet a lot of La Natives. This is like the 1264 01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:18.519 terminal island of Los Angeles, but I grew up here. 1265 01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:21.320 I was born and raised here and went to UCLA. 1266 01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:24.920 I lived at home until I went off to graduate school, 1267 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:27.159 I lived at home. I was going to UCLA and 1268 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:30.800 I was raised Orthodox Jewish, so that explains the living 1269 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:34.880 at home part. I didn't go away until graduate school. 1270 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.320 And then I went to graduate school at the University 1271 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:41.199 of Massachusetts at Amherst, and that is where on the 1272 01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:45.159 first day of class, I met Peter Fairley in my 1273 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:50.039 first class, first day of class, first time I was 1274 01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:55.920 away from home, really like a little Orthodox Jewish bird. Yeah, 1275 01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:58.679 I wouldn't say kicked out of the desk, but it 1276 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:00.679 was time to go and see what life was all 1277 01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:05.679 about outside of Orthodoxy and all that stuff. And I 1278 01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:09.199 remember the first day of class, this will take twenty 1279 01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:12.400 five minutes of our however, a lot of where to go. 1280 01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.199 But I was really, I'm nervous. I was like, what 1281 01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:20.920 is really? Was experiencing so much so fast. Peter and 1282 01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:23.599 I were sitting across from each other at table and 1283 01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:28.000 we were both getting an MFA in fiction, which for 1284 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.880 me it was basically my way of postponing having to 1285 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:36.960 do anything for another three years and get this degree 1286 01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:40.639 and I'm going to buy a corduroy coat with patches 1287 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:43.440 on the ala and a pipe and end up teaching 1288 01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:49.000 as a professor teaching creative writing at some university in 1289 01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:51.039 the Midwest. That's truly what I thought I was going 1290 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.559 to do. So we were sitting across from each other. 1291 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:56.559 We had a teacher. He was a little heavy set. 1292 01:04:56.599 --> 01:04:59.039 His name was George Cuomo, and we were supposed we 1293 01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.360 had a sigmon and for the first day of class 1294 01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:04.119 where we were supposed to bring in the first page 1295 01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.199 of a short story that we had written, and we 1296 01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:08.719 were going to go around the table, and there were 1297 01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:10.920 probably ten people of class. They were small we got 1298 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:14.440 to grad school and smaller classes at least for a 1299 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:18.480 degree like this. And so we read the first person's 1300 01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:23.159 first page, and the whole point being that we were 1301 01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:26.280 going to try and what can we assume from just 1302 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:29.119 this first page of the story? And so the first 1303 01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:35.159 person read this beginning of class, and George Cualmo, the teacher, said, 1304 01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:38.360 I liked this first page. But and I won very 1305 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:41.840 big butt and Peter and I see you're laughing. Peter, 1306 01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:44.199 I looked across the tail from each other and we 1307 01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:49.800 were like, we'd get fod And the teacher was like what, 1308 01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.599 and We're like nothing. And as soon as class was over, 1309 01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:55.639 we met in the hallway, and we said he had 1310 01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:59.920 a big butt, didn't he. I'm betting, I'm Peter. We 1311 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:03.440 met from the same stupid sense that you know where. 1312 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.840 So how orthodox were you? Did you have the big. 1313 01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.320 Hat and I didn't have the beaver hat. I didn't 1314 01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:12.360 even I put my foot down on a lot of it, 1315 01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:16.079 like I didn't even wear a yamaka. But we were kosher, 1316 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:18.119 like strictly kosure. 1317 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:19.559 We were. 1318 01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:24.800 We honored the Jewish Sabbath. By I would say, oh, 1319 01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:27.960 I wouldn't. You can't drive in a car, you can't 1320 01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:31.519 turn on lights and things like that. But I was 1321 01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:35.039 blessed to have incredibly wonderful parents and I have two 1322 01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:39.360 older sisters, and so we would spend the weekends together 1323 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.480 as a family. Always we ate all our meals together. 1324 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:50.159 That's that really reinforced the idea of family and relationships 1325 01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:52.480 and things like that. So I don't have a lot 1326 01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:56.559 of criticism about the fact that that element of how 1327 01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:00.920 beautiful it was and what it gave Lilah life, which 1328 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:04.840 was a great sense of family and relationships and things 1329 01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:08.239 like that. But of course, when I went to graduate school, 1330 01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:09.880 that was the first time that I broke away from 1331 01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:12.320 all that and It's also the first time I ever 1332 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:17.519 I hadn't drank, I hadn't gotten drunk. I'd never smoked pot, 1333 01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:21.719 I'd never played poker. That all happened one night, Like 1334 01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.800 the first weekend, I did not always stay if I 1335 01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.119 had a bucket list of things I wanted to try. 1336 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:34.639 That happened the first weekend. I loved it. I loved it. 1337 01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:38.239 I loved suddenly I understood completely what Like I had 1338 01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:42.119 such a disdain for cheatin chong and drug and humor, 1339 01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:47.199 and like it's so anti authoritative to me. It was 1340 01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.079 just like roll my eyes. In the moment I got high, 1341 01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:52.960 I was like, I get it, got it. Fantastic. Cheating 1342 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:56.440 Child the funniest thing in the world. So watched Cheating 1343 01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:58.920 Child's the next movie, and I still think it's actually 1344 01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:02.199 one of my ten fings favorite holidays. It's just a movie. 1345 01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:03.719 It's just hilarious. 1346 01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:07.360 How do you go from that into writing? 1347 01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:11.039 You meane screenwriting. Peter and I knew we had the 1348 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.320 same sense of humor instantly. He was writing his own 1349 01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.720 novel outside Providence when we met, and he would come 1350 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.359 over my where I was living, and he'd read it 1351 01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:24.840 to me off of yellow pads. And his handwritten that's 1352 01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:29.359 where were in our writing fields. And we both said 1353 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.840 a certain point, you know what, we have the same 1354 01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:37.560 twisted sensit humor. George Cuomo's but was being let's write 1355 01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:41.119 a movie together. We should do that. He's from Cumberland, 1356 01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:45.039 Rhode Island, and his dad is a doc. My father 1357 01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:50.319 had group homes in Los Angeles for wards of the court. 1358 01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:54.800 We had no connection whatsoever to the business, even though 1359 01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:57.840 I was from Los Angeles. But we said, let's do it. 1360 01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:00.000 So we did it. We wrote the silly script called 1361 01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.399 Trusted Us, really funny comedy. It was like we never 1362 01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.279 taken a comedy, We never taken a writing class, nothing. 1363 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:12.199 We just wrote it and it was stupid and funny. 1364 01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:14.840 I was about two idiots in our minds when we 1365 01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:17.279 were writing. It was like Bel Murray and John Candy 1366 01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:21.399 who get jobs at a funeral home, a shady funeral home, 1367 01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:26.159 one that advertises like holiday layaway sale, that sort of thing. 1368 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.359 Now we had this silly, funny script written. What do 1369 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.640 you do with it? What do we do with it? 1370 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:36.760 So Peter was on a date. He was in New York. 1371 01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:39.680 He was on a date, and this was the time 1372 01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:43.560 when Eddie Murphy had made Beverly Hills cop and just 1373 01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:45.880 it was a huge hit, like he was the number 1374 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:50.279 one I think box office at the time. And the 1375 01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:53.159 girl said, you'll never guess who moved in next door 1376 01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:57.159 my parents and out by New Jersey, Eddie Murphy. Really 1377 01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:01.399 you ever see out that's a long shot. But this 1378 01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:04.720 was nineteen eighty six, I think, And she said, yeah, 1379 01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:09.319 he was washing his car. So Peter gave her dust 1380 01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.079 to dust and said, if you ever see him, will 1381 01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:14.920 you please give him this script? And she said sure, 1382 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:17.880 and then strangely enough, a week later must have been 1383 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.439 a good take, because a week later she called she said, 1384 01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:24.479 I saw him coming out to get his paper, and 1385 01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:27.159 I ran out and gave him dust to dust. What 1386 01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:32.439 the hell? Fantastic. Meanwhile, this was like around December of 1387 01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:36.880 nineteen eighty six. Meanwhile, I was home for Jewish holidays, 1388 01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:40.560 and I knew that my sister Freda this is Freda 1389 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.680 was her name, And yes she is who we named 1390 01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:47.079 Freda Felcher after in Dumb and Dummer. This is that's 1391 01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:47.720 her honor. 1392 01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:49.920 Does she have a smiley face tattoo? 1393 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:53.960 But she does not know. I'm glad you're taking the 1394 01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:59.119 reference deeper Zamond Dummer too, but she went she would 1395 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:03.680 go Israeli dancing, and she knew David Sucker from Israeli dancing. 1396 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.760 I said to her, afraid of will you ask David 1397 01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:09.960 Zucker if he'd read our script? Dusted us? And she 1398 01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.600 came back to me and she said, yeah, David said, 1399 01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:15.119 no' read it. So I gave her dust to dust. 1400 01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.680 She gave it David. Now, first of all, those two 1401 01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:24.000 things couldn't happen today period. No one can hand a 1402 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.199 physical script. At least there would be a hard drive 1403 01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.680 to Eddie Murphy or even David Dusk. They just wouldn't 1404 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.880 take it. I wouldn't take it because legal reasons. You 1405 01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:37.840 don't want to make yourself vulnerable. What happens if you 1406 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:41.479 accept it and then something you do ends up similar 1407 01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:43.800 to the script, even if you didn't read it right. 1408 01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:49.039 But let's dissolve in motion picture terms too. Several months later, 1409 01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:52.760 we were both finishing our programs and we got an 1410 01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:56.760 article in the Los Angeles Times. It was all about 1411 01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:00.640 what is Eddie Murphy going to do next? It's called 1412 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:02.439 like the Eddie Murphy script Derby. It was in the 1413 01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:06.520 Los Angeles Times and it started out Eddie Murphy was 1414 01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:10.800 looking out his Alpine, New Jersey window when he saw 1415 01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:14.279 a neighbor coming across the street with a script. That's 1416 01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:17.439 the opening of it. And then they mentioned the script 1417 01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:20.560 Dusted Us. They say, the script Dusted Us is now 1418 01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:24.479 on Murphy's shelf, and like he read it on here's 1419 01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:28.319 what happened. He read it and he thought it was hilarious, 1420 01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:32.239 and he went back to Los Angeles and they looked 1421 01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:35.880 for two writers were vaguely remembered. I think their names 1422 01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:39.279 were Peter Fairley and Ben couldn't find us anywhere because 1423 01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:43.359 we weren't anywhere, and so they planted that in the 1424 01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:47.640 article so that we would call exactly. But meanwhile and 1425 01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:50.960 then Freida called, So we called Paramount. We were like, hey, 1426 01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:52.079 that's our script. 1427 01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:52.640 Just to us. 1428 01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:55.880 They were like, we've been looking for you. Meanwhile, my 1429 01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:59.800 sister Freda said, David read the script and he thought 1430 01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:02.159 ready gave it to his brother, and they gave it 1431 01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:04.680 to their partner, Jim, and they want t oft to you. 1432 01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:09.119 That's how we got started. It couldn't happen today, Mike 1433 01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.680 couldn't possibly. It wouldn't be possible. We were just in 1434 01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:17.079 the right place and did the right thing with the 1435 01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:19.279 right piece of material, and I guess it was funny. 1436 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:22.520 And it still blows my mind that we'd never written 1437 01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:25.159 the script before, but that was and by the way, 1438 01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:29.479 pieces of that have been cannibalized things we've done since then, 1439 01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.960 including and up to Green Book. Green Book has a 1440 01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:36.000 joke from dust to dust in it at the beginning 1441 01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:42.000 where he the character parks and takes a trash can 1442 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:45.880 and turns it over and covers the fire hydrant that 1443 01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.359 he parks next to. That's from us to dust. That's 1444 01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:50.279 how we got started. 1445 01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:53.479 That must have been how you got to our planet tonight. 1446 01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:57.960 Yes to the Zucker brothers. Oh, this man reads IMDb pages. 1447 01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.840 I had a great opportunity. I spoke with mister Zucker 1448 01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.199 a few months ago and his early stuff. I was 1449 01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:08.199 like just amazed to see some of it. And then 1450 01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:11.640 I was a big Rich Hall fan, especially from not 1451 01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:13.239 necessarily the news. 1452 01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:17.880 Yeah, Richshaw was great on our plans. So, by the way, 1453 01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:21.680 this is a twist on it all, and I know 1454 01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:25.920 he's joking. But years later, many years later, the Writers Guild, 1455 01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:30.800 both Writers Guild West and East, finally decided to take 1456 01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:32.800 a poll on what they thought were the hundred and 1457 01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:38.600 one funniest screenplays of all time. I am beyond honored 1458 01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:42.680 that Dumb and Dumber one was a number fifty six 1459 01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:45.560 and it tied with Anchorman, another thing that I would 1460 01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:49.680 honored to share. And as a result of that, they 1461 01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:53.600 did a beautiful night at the we have cin around Madelt, 1462 01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:56.960 world famous Cinta aram Medelt, which is right now just 1463 01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:01.560 dormant until it gets opened to get close for COVID, 1464 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:05.920 and it hasn't opened again. But they did honoring the 1465 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:10.560 winners of of that contest and they had us up 1466 01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:15.800 on stage, Peter, Bobby and I with David, Jim and 1467 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:19.600 Jerry and other people, Alexander Payne, and so it was 1468 01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:23.000 such an honor. Before it started, I said, I went 1469 01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:26.960 up to David. I said, David, you really the one 1470 01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:30.960 who got us started, you and Annie Murphy. If you 1471 01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:33.840 hadn't accepted, if you hadn't read the script, asked to 1472 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:37.159 read it. He said, oh really, honestly, I just want 1473 01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:41.520 to date your sister. So don't ever have anyone who 1474 01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:44.399 wants to get a script rate, make sure you have 1475 01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:49.079 attractive sister and give it to someone who wants the 1476 01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:54.039 dater or brother whatever, you came. Nothing ever happened with 1477 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:57.560 Dust to Dust. But the Zuckers thought liked us and 1478 01:15:57.720 --> 01:15:59.800 asked us to work with a few things on them. 1479 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.760 The first thing they gave us, actually was the very 1480 01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.680 first thing was they were doing Ruthless People, and they said, 1481 01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:09.840 read it, see if you can, if there's anything you 1482 01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:12.960 want to throw in. It was a great script. Dale 1483 01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:16.079 Lonna wrote a fantastic screen but and we just we 1484 01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:18.399 threw a few things in. Not only do we throw 1485 01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:21.119 a few things in, they used a couple of them, 1486 01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:26.560 and one of them, oh yeah, It was a line about, oh, 1487 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:29.159 Gandhi would have strangled She's not By the end, the 1488 01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:31.760 line was like, she's not, mother, Teresa, Gandhi would have 1489 01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:37.640 strangled her, And the New York Times review of Ruthless 1490 01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:41.319 People mentioned that line. So the screenplay is full of 1491 01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:45.520 funny one liners. Peter and I were like, all right, 1492 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:47.880 we thrown But in the meantime they were also putting 1493 01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:50.640 together our Plan Tonight, which was their parody. And you 1494 01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.359 can actually, I think you can see it now it's 1495 01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:55.600 on YouTube, but for years you couldn't access any of it. 1496 01:16:56.279 --> 01:17:01.560 The parody of information shows like Minutes, but combined with 1497 01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:05.439 the variety show. But the idea was, if you see it, 1498 01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:09.159 it's so bizarre, But yeah, we did. We wrote a 1499 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:14.560 sketch for Jay Leno and then another one for about 1500 01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:18.199 a guy who is seems to have a twin brother 1501 01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:22.640 living in another town, but it's actually just the same guy. 1502 01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:26.119 He's just living with two families. But that was fun 1503 01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:28.479 and that was our real That was an introduction. I 1504 01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:31.600 think that was our first thing before, unless we may 1505 01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:35.399 have done the Paul Riiser, the HBO Paul Riser Special first, 1506 01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:37.920 but in doing the Paul Riser Special, the producer of 1507 01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:41.000 the Paul Riser Special was Charlie Westler, and Charlie Westler 1508 01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:43.600 is the producer of Dun the Dumber. That's how we 1509 01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:48.520 got Dumb and Dummer made was Charlie Westler. We met 1510 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:53.319 him doing the Paul Riiser HBO special, which was a delight. 1511 01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:55.079 That was a lot of fun. I don't know if 1512 01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:58.880 you've seen it, but it has an incredible cast. Paul 1513 01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:01.039 wanted to do something more more than just stand up, 1514 01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:03.520 so we came in and pitched, what if we have 1515 01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:07.159 a whole wrap around story that explains how you even 1516 01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:11.039 get to your stand up. So there's three quarters of 1517 01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:14.520 it are a wrap around and then one quarter is 1518 01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.079 the stand, or maybe says half a wrap around, half 1519 01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:22.279 a statu But Paul was delightful. We were so lucky 1520 01:18:22.359 --> 01:18:25.319 to and we also ended up writing something for Eddie Murphy. 1521 01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:29.720 He wanted to direct this. He said, I want you 1522 01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:34.520 guys to write a like a teenage Robin hood story, 1523 01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:37.119 and we did. It was called Young Robbers, and he 1524 01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.359 wanted to direct it in paramount. They wanted him star 1525 01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:46.000 and everything in perpetuity because and so they were not 1526 01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:49.359 happy never got made. And we would see him every 1527 01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:52.840 once in a while rare and he'd say, guys, I 1528 01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:56.199 still want to do Young Robbers. What do your members 1529 01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:58.439 that I haven't seen him in years, but it's. 1530 01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:00.000 Like he should have the cloud to direct now. 1531 01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:02.880 They let him do Harlem Knights, which I think he 1532 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:05.239 co wrote, or they about it. I think that was 1533 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:08.279 his one dipping the toe, but he was in that too. 1534 01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:10.479 They wouldn't have let him just direct it. I don't 1535 01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:13.640 think they really wanted him want their star to be 1536 01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:14.079 a star. 1537 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:17.159 How did Dum and Dummer come to be? Was that 1538 01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:20.479 your guys' original thing or was it already out there 1539 01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:21.439 and then you took it over. 1540 01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:26.159 We pitched Elman Dumber to John Hughes. John Hughes had 1541 01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:29.199 a deal at Universal. There's the reason why I'm telling 1542 01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:32.520 this detail. And we came in and we pitched him 1543 01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:37.079 the plot of Dulmin Dumber and he was like, that's hilarious. 1544 01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:40.840 Well go and write that and I will let you 1545 01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:44.760 direct it. We were like, you will. None of us 1546 01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:47.520 have got anywhere near. I made super great movies as 1547 01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:50.439 a kid, and regular eight movies. But yeah, we weren't 1548 01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:54.520 like directed. So we went away and wrote it and 1549 01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:57.159 we came back and gave it to him and he 1550 01:19:57.359 --> 01:19:59.920 liked it. But here's what happened, is his deal at 1551 01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:05.600 Universal ended, and typical of what happens when director or 1552 01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:10.079 producer or writer who has a development deal, when their 1553 01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:13.640 deal ends one place, they go someplace else. All the 1554 01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:19.000 material that they developed just goes into the icy vault 1555 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:22.960 and disappears and it never really, nothing ever happens with it. 1556 01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:27.279 And of course he went to Fox and made the 1557 01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.960 next thing he did was Home Alone. So he'd just 1558 01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:32.960 done that a little earlier. It would have been a 1559 01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:36.760 Universal movie. But we always loved dust to dust, love 1560 01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:40.359 the script, and so we asked him if we could 1561 01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:42.960 get it back and take it around and try and 1562 01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:44.880 set it up. And he said, yeah, but yes you can, 1563 01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:48.399 but not officially attached to this, so you can't use 1564 01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:50.640 my name to set it up where you have to 1565 01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:54.039 pay me my dolls. Like, we just saved a million 1566 01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:59.079 dollars on the budget. So we took it every mike. 1567 01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:03.359 We took it every everywhere, and then everywhere else. I 1568 01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:06.960 think it's turned down at least twice by everybody. And 1569 01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:10.560 to the point we thought if we'd read what happens 1570 01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:15.359 typically is a studio has coverage where they get a 1571 01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:18.640 script and there's a whole department where they'll read it 1572 01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:21.640 and someone will write down a synopsis of what it 1573 01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:24.319 was and whether they recommend it or not. Those are 1574 01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:27.279 the gatekeepers, the people who write coverage, because they could 1575 01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:32.000 kill your script right of that. Boy they did. They 1576 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:34.880 constantly killed them. We got things like this is the 1577 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:38.920 stupidest thing hello, So we changed that. We've sent it 1578 01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:41.600 out again, and we changed the title. We had two 1579 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:45.479 other titles. We had go West, which isn't hilarious but 1580 01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:50.159 it's obvious, and then A Power Tool Is Not a Toy, 1581 01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:54.560 which was a song by a group they were called 1582 01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:57.319 the Americans or something, or it makes them sound like 1583 01:21:57.399 --> 01:21:59.960 up with people, so it had those they catch up. 1584 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:02.720 So didn't we get this when it was called du 1585 01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:05.960 dumb and Dummer and then there was one, but we kept, 1586 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:10.000 we wouldn't stop. We were indefatigable, a word I love 1587 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:14.279 because it's so many syllables. And at one point this 1588 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:19.640 little company called the Motion Picture Corporation of America, which 1589 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:23.680 was to producer Steven Stabler and Brad Kervoy. They've read 1590 01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:26.920 it and oh the reason why also got what's getting 1591 01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:29.520 turned down was that we were attaching Pete as the director, 1592 01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:32.439 like we said, let's And by the way, our agent 1593 01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:35.720 at the time was a gentleman named Richard Lovett at 1594 01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:38.680 Richard love It is now the head of creative Artists. 1595 01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:41.960 At the time he was just like a junior agent 1596 01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:46.680 coming up assigned. These two idiots are three. At that point, 1597 01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:49.560 the thief Stabler and Radvoy thought it was hysterical. They 1598 01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:52.000 were like, this is what they were, the very low 1599 01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:56.000 budgety kind of thing. But once they had made that 1600 01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:58.840 once they said we will do it with them, and 1601 01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:02.039 they were thinking low budget at that point. I don't 1602 01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:06.359 remember how New Line ended up getting reading dumb and dubber. 1603 01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:11.279 But New Line had just made the mask with Jim Carrey, 1604 01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:14.720 and they read dumb and dumber, and somehow Jim got it. 1605 01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:18.239 I loved it. I just thought it was hysterical. And 1606 01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:21.520 so New Line heard the Most Picture Corporation was going 1607 01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:24.640 to do it, and they said, we'll co produce it 1608 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.920 with Most of Picture Corporation and that created the momentum 1609 01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:28.800 to make it happen. 1610 01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:31.640 What was that version of the script like at this point? 1611 01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:35.520 Very similar to what was on the screen, Very similar, 1612 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:38.159 only really big difference. 1613 01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:39.199 We didn't do it. 1614 01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:43.159 We didn't do a lot of rewriting production we had to. 1615 01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:46.520 We had a different ending in the script which we shot. 1616 01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:50.119 We actually shot it. I don't know though it's an 1617 01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:52.760 extra on any of the but we had a different 1618 01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:56.479 ending and preview it and it previewed great. The ending 1619 01:23:56.600 --> 01:24:00.479 was just it wasn't funny like they so the whole 1620 01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:04.880 ending with them and the Swedish wrestling team is that 1621 01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.880 was the new ending, which was thank goodness because it 1622 01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:12.479 was so much better. But it was very similar. You 1623 01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:16.039 read the production draft or the script was the actual 1624 01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:20.319 shooting draft, you would very similar. There are things that 1625 01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:26.039 there are improvised things too, not Pete Bobby and Pete 1626 01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:29.039 Bobby co directed it. Technically, I don't know if I 1627 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:31.680 should be saying that, but it's Peter on the screen. 1628 01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:34.239 But it's very much the way the Zucker brothers gave 1629 01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:36.239 them a crash course and how they do it. One 1630 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:37.920 of them is on the set with the actors, the 1631 01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:42.560 other one is back on the monitor video village. They 1632 01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:47.159 would always shoot the script and then if Jim or 1633 01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:51.359 Jeff had a suggestion, they would suggest it, they'd shoot that. 1634 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:55.680 They'd always pay deference to them. There were a few 1635 01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:59.279 things that we sat down with Jeff and with Jim 1636 01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:01.600 and he said, I would love to do this in 1637 01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.920 a movie, and we put it in. Things like he 1638 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:09.359 wanted to do like the most the weirdest kiss, romantic 1639 01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:11.920 kiss in a movie, So we threw that in. So 1640 01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:15.000 we threw some stuff in before we shot. Yeah, they 1641 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:18.800 would also do an improv take. Especially Jim was like, 1642 01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:21.399 I got an idea, let's do it. And so there's 1643 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.640 a few of those in the movie too. Yeah, And 1644 01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:29.319 weirdly enough, what I've read online is being the most 1645 01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:34.000 popular line from the movie. We didn't write it. It's 1646 01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:36.720 not even funny. And it is the line where they 1647 01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:42.319 were shooting out outside of the seven levels and there's 1648 01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:45.680 the gas station mini mart, and there were these two 1649 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:49.760 guys off on the side just slurping on some slurpy, 1650 01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:53.840 some big gulps, and people say, hey, get in the picture, 1651 01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:58.000 go stand by the door and Drake. And the end, 1652 01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:02.319 Jim comes out and goes, oh, big golfs. That's the 1653 01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:06.840 most popular line movie. And we did not write that line. 1654 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:11.439 That line just happened. It's not even funny, but it's 1655 01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:16.079 apparently it's People think that's the essence of the addedness. 1656 01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:20.159 Is it true that they really low balled the studio, 1657 01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:23.239 low bald Jeff Daniels to keep him out of the movie. 1658 01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:28.319 Well, yeah, they weren't enthusiastic, but they wanted another comedian 1659 01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:33.079 and they pitched everybody because they they just thought in 1660 01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.760 their minds, Jim Carrey is funny. Let's get another funny person. 1661 01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:40.119 And they did lowball him. Not only do they love ball, 1662 01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:43.520 but his management didn't want him to do it. I 1663 01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:47.199 remember nobody. Well, the reason that Jeff Daniels is in 1664 01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:50.239 that movie and he's the greatest guy is because he's 1665 01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:52.680 the greatest guy and he wanted to do it, and 1666 01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:55.479 they thought it would be funny and and but I 1667 01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:59.560 remember the very first we had. The first cut was long. 1668 01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:04.039 It was like two hours forty minutes. Is that long? Yeah? 1669 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:06.479 And now at least an hour more than it is now. 1670 01:27:07.079 --> 01:27:11.159 And I'm sitting next to Jeff Daniels manager and the 1671 01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:15.399 toilet scene which was longer too, that comes on and 1672 01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:20.600 turned to him and I swear it's blanched. He was white, 1673 01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:23.479 and he said you're going to cut that, aren't you? 1674 01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:27.079 And he said, oh, I said it's all gone. I'm sure. 1675 01:27:28.119 --> 01:27:32.479 But yeah, they did low. They did want Jeff and everybody. 1676 01:27:32.479 --> 01:27:37.520 They were pitching us, everybody from Sinbad. And we are thinking, 1677 01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:43.600 was we knew Jim was hilarious, and we wanted an actor. 1678 01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:48.520 We love Jeff Daniels. We had seen Something Wild, that 1679 01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:51.319 Jonathan Demi movie, and the first half of Something Wild 1680 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:56.479 is really a comedy almost, it's definitely a comedy. We 1681 01:27:56.600 --> 01:28:00.319 just thought his reactions to being in this world he 1682 01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:03.479 gets pulled into this crazy with this by this crazy girl, 1683 01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:07.159 was so funny, and we just knew he'd be funny. 1684 01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:10.560 We knew he would, and we also thought he would 1685 01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:15.279 pull Jeff into he Jeff would do less stick. At 1686 01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:18.199 this point, I had just seen I remember when I 1687 01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:22.359 met not Jeff, Jim would. When I met Jim, I 1688 01:28:22.399 --> 01:28:25.960 had seen ace Ventura that day, so I met him 1689 01:28:26.039 --> 01:28:29.960 later that day. That that evening, I was watching a Ventura. 1690 01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:34.880 What the hell is he like? It's so extreme? Every 1691 01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:37.840 line and every that was what he wanted to do 1692 01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:41.199 with that character. Then I was thinking, I honestly was thinking, 1693 01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:45.640 like I just I don't know. Could he be Lloyd? 1694 01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:48.359 The first thing he said when I met him, he 1695 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:52.199 shook his hand and invited us into this place, and 1696 01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:54.520 they said, I just want to assure you I am 1697 01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:59.319 not doing ace Ventur in this movie. And I was like, oh, 1698 01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:03.439 thank god. And he didn't doing a whole other character, 1699 01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:07.640 and thank goodness. I really think having Jeff Daniels there 1700 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:12.359 balanced them perfectly in many respects. Jeff gets the biggest 1701 01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:16.000 laughs in the movie if you really think about it, 1702 01:29:16.079 --> 01:29:18.199 He gets the toilets, and he gets some of the 1703 01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:21.079 biggest last well even more so maybe than Jim does. 1704 01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:25.760 But Jim was It was such a perfect The stars aligned. 1705 01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:28.079 What can I tell you? They truly did. We were 1706 01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:31.520 so lucky on it. We were blessed. 1707 01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:34.479 This is a really dumb question, but where did Lloyd 1708 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:36.399 Christmas the name come from. 1709 01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:40.119 I don't remember where Lloyd Christmas came from, except that 1710 01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:44.800 we wanted if her name was married. In his mind, 1711 01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:47.760 if they got married, she would be married Christmas. That 1712 01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:51.720 was we wanted that. But I don't remember how Lloyd 1713 01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:56.239 came up. We actually knew a Harry Dunn. He was 1714 01:29:56.279 --> 01:29:59.199 a journalist and I think Pete called them up and said, hey, 1715 01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:02.119 can we use your name for character? And he said, yeah, 1716 01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:04.479 that's why the last name was Christmas. 1717 01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:10.920 The Street performers Mike Starr, Duff, Charles Rocket. Charles Rocket 1718 01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:12.159 was a national treasure. 1719 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:16.159 By the way, Duff, that part was written originally for 1720 01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:20.319 a male and we didn't change any lines or anything 1721 01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:23.640 like that. They just cast stuff instead, which was great. 1722 01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:27.119 You can do that with scripts. He lucked out and 1723 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.000 everyone got into the spirit of it. It's when you 1724 01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:35.119 think about how weird it was forever for them to 1725 01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:39.680 do it and take two guys who never directed before 1726 01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:46.079 directing their first screenplay starring. By the time when Jim 1727 01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:49.880 did it, he was on the rise. So this was 1728 01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:52.560 the third movie he shot that ended up being released 1729 01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:55.640 in ninety four. A Spentaur came out in ninety four 1730 01:30:56.159 --> 01:31:00.680 begging it. Now, he's a superstar time he made it, 1731 01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:03.800 he wasn't. I was like it was O, the guy 1732 01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:06.479 from in Living Color. None of those had come out. 1733 01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:10.800 So the fact that everyone said let's do this movie, 1734 01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:13.960 that we're going over to Utah to shoot Crack of Ridge, 1735 01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:17.279 Colorado and let these two guys have never direginate that, 1736 01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:21.319 there's a lot of respects. It's aligned similarly to I 1737 01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:25.359 think to the the Zuckers and a Airplane. I don't 1738 01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:27.760 want to rule out Jim too yet, Jim Abrams, but 1739 01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:31.600 they never direcd it before, and this is their first 1740 01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:35.880 screenplay if you don't count Kentucky forright movie. Yet everyone 1741 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:38.399 got into the spirit of it once they figured out 1742 01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:40.359 what was going on, and they got into the spirit 1743 01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:42.960 of it, and the script with the script spoke for itself. 1744 01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:47.159 And I remember in ninety four Carrie was everywhere in 1745 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:50.319 that movie, all three of them, but especially Dumb and Dumber. 1746 01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:53.319 It was huge, absolutely huge. 1747 01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:56.199 Because we were number three in line and I remember 1748 01:31:56.760 --> 01:32:00.000 going to the theaters to see because Dumb was really 1749 01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:02.640 by Neil Line, and so is the Mask and so 1750 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:06.479 they attacked a Dumb and Dumber trailer onto the Mask 1751 01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:09.720 before the Mask started, and I'd go to theaters to 1752 01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:14.159 watch the audience react to the trailer and it'd be roaring, 1753 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:18.439 and I'd be like, it's possible. Could we possibly be 1754 01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:20.760 a hit? Yeah, it's gonna happen. I'm like, but they 1755 01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:23.399 can't know. That's not the way the business works. You 1756 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:26.079 can't predict things. And don't even think that, and stop 1757 01:32:26.119 --> 01:32:31.119 being so certain, Bennett. It's and again, we were so lucky, 1758 01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:34.000 not just lucky about it being the hit that it was, 1759 01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:37.960 the financial that it was at the time, but think 1760 01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:42.000 of all the movies that are classic, that are great, 1761 01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:46.159 classic movies that get forgotten. They come out and then 1762 01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:50.520 time marches on, and somehow, I don't know how it happened, 1763 01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:54.840 and nothing to do with us, Dumb and Dumber got 1764 01:32:55.079 --> 01:32:59.640 became part of the zeitgeist. Really. It's definitely a cult 1765 01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:03.119 hit favorite. And the lines from it which come up 1766 01:33:04.159 --> 01:33:07.680 all the time, you can't make that happen. That's just 1767 01:33:07.800 --> 01:33:12.600 something that just happens. It happens culturally. It's amazing to 1768 01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:15.960 me that just occurred to me, like cult and cultural. 1769 01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:18.359 I didn't I never thought of the two, that those 1770 01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:24.000 two things are the same, but we're It blows my mind, 1771 01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:27.119 it really does. You can't make it happen. 1772 01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:32.760 It isn't just pratfalls and like the toilet scene and 1773 01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:36.239 all that, but you've got all of the wordplay. I 1774 01:33:36.319 --> 01:33:40.159 just love how fast everything is paced throughout the entire thing, 1775 01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:42.880 and that you have those multiple levels of comedy happening. 1776 01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:46.720 It's a solid screenplay. The thing about it, you could 1777 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:52.439 say it's called dumb, and we're telling you we're not 1778 01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:56.600 trying to pull in the wool over your head. It's stupid, 1779 01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:00.000 but it's a kind of a smart. It's a smart stupid. 1780 01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:04.880 I'll definitely say that structured. There's nothing easier. I wouldn't 1781 01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:08.159 say easier. There's nothing. If you're going to do a movie, 1782 01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:12.560 make it a road movie, because already you have this 1783 01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:17.960 incredibly strong spine. It's there's a journey and then there's 1784 01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:21.800 a destination, and that's the spine on which you're hanging everything, 1785 01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:25.640 and it's you can't go wrong downb with Delver two. 1786 01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:27.880 After we made it, we looked at each other and said, 1787 01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:35.279 did we just basically remain that's them. They're supposed to 1788 01:34:35.319 --> 01:34:39.600 be on taking another journey going somebody. It'd be silly 1789 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:43.239 if it wasn't that. But yeah, the road structure. And 1790 01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:46.119 by the way, I didn't hear this until I started 1791 01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:51.119 mentioning it on podcasts. We very deliberately designed to be 1792 01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:55.119 an homage to the Bing Crosby Bob Hope road movies. 1793 01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:59.760 Down to this always happened in those movies. The dynamic 1794 01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:04.720 there they're smiling at each other and backstabbing each other 1795 01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:08.960 for Dorothy Lamore simultaneously. That's that was a direct steal 1796 01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:13.439 from the Road to Looby's. There you go. There's a 1797 01:35:13.479 --> 01:35:14.880 spoiler alert where. 1798 01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:18.520 So after Dummen Dummer comes out, what does it do 1799 01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:19.039 for you? 1800 01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:22.560 That's a good question. I still had to wait in 1801 01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:26.399 line everywhere I went, even at the gas station. You'd 1802 01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:29.760 think they'd say, mister Yellen, come on out, No, we 1803 01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:33.279 don't want your credit card. Gave me a career, and 1804 01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:37.840 career that I that, thank goodness, continues to this day. 1805 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:42.279 Although I consider myself semi retired now, although I do 1806 01:35:42.399 --> 01:35:46.439 have my full time job now is picketing, which I 1807 01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:50.119 don't do full time, but several hours a week left 1808 01:35:50.119 --> 01:35:52.520 the partnership, and that was nothing to do with Peter 1809 01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:56.520 and Bobby. They were incredibly great partners that had everything 1810 01:35:56.520 --> 01:35:58.319 to do with me and where I was in my 1811 01:35:58.399 --> 01:35:59.880 life and where I was going through I was going 1812 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:05.279 I was wrestling with all sorts of dark things, and 1813 01:36:05.319 --> 01:36:08.640 as a result not maybe not necessarily making the best choices, 1814 01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:13.720 meaning leaving the partnership to move across the country, things 1815 01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:16.880 like that. But I came back, and I've always worked 1816 01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:20.000 with partners. I always I love to co I love 1817 01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:23.159 to be a part in a partnership. I like to 1818 01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.560 be on a team, like to be like a kind 1819 01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:29.159 of a writer's You sit around and everyone's pitching and 1820 01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:32.920 throwing ideas and you've got I like being gear in 1821 01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:38.319 the machinery. It's so much fun. Also, the pressures, it's 1822 01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:41.720 not all on you to creates. There's so much more 1823 01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:45.720 fun than throwing things back and forth. And you're also 1824 01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:49.079 when you're in a partnership, you're hanging out with your friend. 1825 01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:52.279 Imagine hanging out. Your job is to hang out with 1826 01:36:52.319 --> 01:36:55.239 your friend and create something that's just so much fun 1827 01:36:55.279 --> 01:36:59.000 to think about. So I've always worked with partners. I've 1828 01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:02.880 ever had a problem finding one. But it's interesting because 1829 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:07.880 it's in finding asking each person I asked in my 1830 01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:11.399 life in different ways. That's why I ask them, do 1831 01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:15.600 you really have to have it asked? Work instantly? There's 1832 01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:20.720 no time to see if you guys don't work. It 1833 01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:23.279 has to work. It's like a marriage that has to 1834 01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:27.399 be perfect right off the bat, because that's how you're 1835 01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:30.359 going to make your money. That's career, that's your life. 1836 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:34.720 And maybe I'm not giving myself enough credit for being 1837 01:37:34.760 --> 01:37:37.119 a collaborator, but because I don't have a much of 1838 01:37:37.159 --> 01:37:39.159 an ego when it comes to it, I really don't. 1839 01:37:39.319 --> 01:37:44.239 It's what makes the product, the project best. And if 1840 01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:46.920 pitch something that's not good and you're saying, no, I'm 1841 01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:49.319 not crazy about that, I don't take I never take 1842 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:53.680 that personally. Just we move on. I just had a 1843 01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:57.600 career of with different writing partners and managed to and 1844 01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:00.960 I think there's no question that being one of the 1845 01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:03.560 people who co wrote doumb and Dummer has got me 1846 01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:08.239 indoors and got people look at the work that I 1847 01:38:08.319 --> 01:38:12.359 do as a part of a team. They look upon it. 1848 01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:15.560 It's got me jobs. We'd love to get the co 1849 01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:19.039 writer of Domen Daher on this project. There's no question 1850 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:22.479 it's had that sort of positive effect on me. There's 1851 01:38:22.520 --> 01:38:26.600 nothing negative about it whatsoever. It's funny because I'm talking 1852 01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:28.560 to something. I meet someone, I don't know them, I'm 1853 01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:31.720 talking with them. I don't ever lead with domin Daha. 1854 01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:35.600 That will come later if that's where the conversation goes, maybe, 1855 01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:38.359 but a point where it may what do you do? 1856 01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:41.319 I'm a writer? What kind of usually someone does? What 1857 01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:45.399 do you ride like horses? No writer? A writer? Not 1858 01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:48.840 a writer? And then what do you write? Entertainment? So 1859 01:38:49.479 --> 01:38:51.880 film and I've done a little bit of television, Okay, 1860 01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:53.600 what do you think? The next question is am I 1861 01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.600 seeing anything you've done? Now? At this point, I know 1862 01:38:56.920 --> 01:39:00.199 we are like the Robert Frost We are at that 1863 01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:06.000 the two roads, and you may have one of them 1864 01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:08.119 was a pretty pretty popular movie. Did you see Dom 1865 01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:11.560 and Dumber? At that point, either somebody goes, oh I 1866 01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:14.800 love DuMond Dumber or oh, Mike, little brothers it's always 1867 01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:18.640 a little brother, my little brother's favorite movie, or it's 1868 01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:21.600 oh yeah, no, I didn't see that. Not really a 1869 01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:25.920 big Jim Carrey fan. Then then it's that conversation kind 1870 01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:28.560 of ends because what and then if it keeps going 1871 01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:32.479 on the plus side, did you also get Oh, that's great, 1872 01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:35.039 and what else have you done? I'm like, well, I mean, 1873 01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:38.159 really that was the most I've done other things, but 1874 01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:41.359 that's the one that is the most famous. I don't 1875 01:39:41.359 --> 01:39:45.600 have anyone that's more famous than that. I'm sorry. I'll 1876 01:39:45.640 --> 01:39:47.600 come back to you at the end of my career. 1877 01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:52.079 But no. But there's no question that being involved with 1878 01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:56.479 it has had nothing but a positive effect on my life. 1879 01:39:56.640 --> 01:39:59.880 When Panna Barbara, I think it was NBC was developing 1880 01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:04.319 an animated show series of Duvin Tower, came to us 1881 01:40:04.319 --> 01:40:07.079 and said, you guys want to be involved, and Pete 1882 01:40:07.079 --> 01:40:09.520 and Bobby said, Ben, why don't you? Why don't you 1883 01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:13.319 like being get involved in it? And I said, all right, look, 1884 01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:17.079 and they dropped me in, really in the position of 1885 01:40:17.199 --> 01:40:20.600 the show runner. I had never at that point hadn't 1886 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:23.800 been on a TV show at all. I didn't even 1887 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:25.359 know what a show were I I'd never been in 1888 01:40:25.399 --> 01:40:28.000 a writer's room, and they dropped me into this position 1889 01:40:28.039 --> 01:40:30.399 that I was Mike when I say it was not 1890 01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:34.640 qualified for this. It would be like taking a writer 1891 01:40:34.920 --> 01:40:40.279 and making them a surgeon. That's so I struggled as 1892 01:40:40.279 --> 01:40:43.000 long as I could before I got myself out of 1893 01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:47.079 that situation. To this day feel terrible about being knowing 1894 01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:49.800 I was the wrong person in the wrong place. But 1895 01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:52.560 that was the most negative thing that ever happened as 1896 01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:55.319 a result of being involved in dumbn Toower and not 1897 01:40:56.039 --> 01:40:59.600 completely on me nobody else. As I accepted that, I 1898 01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:02.439 find no I think if I had just known more 1899 01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:05.239 what I was going to do and what was going 1900 01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:08.119 to be expected to me. But I remember I would 1901 01:41:08.199 --> 01:41:10.439 have to I'd spend so much time having to talk 1902 01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:14.600 with the NBC sensors because we had one joke, like 1903 01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:17.760 pretending to be a show runner or when I thought 1904 01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:20.039 a show runner was supposed to be. But we had 1905 01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:22.640 this one joke where one of them sticks their head 1906 01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:26.359 outside the van. We had the van animated show and 1907 01:41:26.479 --> 01:41:30.279 all these things smash against him's face as he goes 1908 01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:33.079 through them, as they drive through them, and one of 1909 01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:39.079 them was a flashing railroad sign, and the NBC sensor said, 1910 01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:42.359 you have to take the sign out. I said, why 1911 01:41:42.439 --> 01:41:45.079 is it? Because it suggests they didn't stop for the train. 1912 01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:49.800 Completely sensible. They also made they had to have seatbelts 1913 01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:54.039 on in the van as well with their beaver, their 1914 01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:54.600 pet beaver. 1915 01:41:55.640 --> 01:41:58.720 Were you or the fairly brothers involved at all with 1916 01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:00.800 the prequel Dumb and Dumber. 1917 01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:04.800 We were not. They New Line came to us and said, 1918 01:42:04.840 --> 01:42:07.680 we want to do a prequel because the time I 1919 01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:11.359 don't remember what happened right after Dumb. You remember Jim 1920 01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:16.800 Carrey was huge. In fact, his price they paid him 1921 01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:19.399 like seven hundred thousand dollars for seven hundred and fifty 1922 01:42:19.399 --> 01:42:22.880 thousand for the mask. And when they were going to 1923 01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:25.600 sign him for Dumb, the mask hadn't come out yet 1924 01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:29.720 and we said you should get him for this price. 1925 01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:33.199 Then they said, let's wait and see how the mask done. 1926 01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:38.000 As a result, cost went up to seven million dollars. 1927 01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:40.399 So the price was a lot. And that's why the 1928 01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:42.800 movie by it made so much money. Why it was 1929 01:42:42.960 --> 01:42:46.720 such a profit was it was made for seventeen million dollars. 1930 01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:50.199 The movie cost ten and then Gym was seven and 1931 01:42:50.319 --> 01:42:53.319 worth every penny obviously, and it made two hundred and 1932 01:42:53.319 --> 01:42:56.359 seventy five nine on its release. So that was a 1933 01:42:56.359 --> 01:43:00.199 big profit for New Line. But it wanted to you 1934 01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:02.760 because they didn't. They wanted to avoid having to pay 1935 01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:05.840 a lot of mys to a sequel for both of them. 1936 01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:08.079 They said, let's do a prequel, and they came to 1937 01:43:08.159 --> 01:43:12.840 us and we said, no, we just it's the joke 1938 01:43:13.039 --> 01:43:16.840 is there are too adults who act like adolescents. It's 1939 01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:19.680 not funny when they're stupid and they're in high school. 1940 01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:24.000 It's funny when they're stupid. Man. So we backed off 1941 01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:26.399 on that, and they I have a credit and executive 1942 01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:29.800 produce a credit on that. Only that's it. They said, 1943 01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:32.119 do you want your name on this? I said why not? 1944 01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:35.680 I mean, Peter and Bobbie were smart enough to take 1945 01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:38.000 their name off of it. But I only saw it once. 1946 01:43:38.119 --> 01:43:42.479 I was toes curdle. It was like, remember thinking, why 1947 01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:45.439 wouldn't they at least let us or let me do 1948 01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:48.960 a pass to throw some jokes in the here. But 1949 01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:50.960 maybe it's the best. It's better that they didn't. 1950 01:43:51.880 --> 01:43:55.000 That same year that came out, you got a story 1951 01:43:55.079 --> 01:43:57.279 credit for Stuck on You. 1952 01:43:57.520 --> 01:43:58.960 Stuck on You? Yeah? 1953 01:43:59.279 --> 01:44:02.119 Was that from Dust to Dust? Or was that a 1954 01:44:02.119 --> 01:44:02.800 fresh credit? 1955 01:44:03.279 --> 01:44:06.399 That was a fresh credit? Funny about that was I 1956 01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:09.479 took a movie to beat and Bobby I said, guys, 1957 01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:13.760 watch this movie because I'm telling you there's a comedy 1958 01:44:13.800 --> 01:44:16.600 in it, because it's so ridiculous. And it was this movie. 1959 01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:20.119 It was made in the fifties, and it starred and 1960 01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:24.039 they're gonna think I'm joking. But and IMDb this Daisy 1961 01:44:24.159 --> 01:44:29.159 and Violet Hilton, the Hilton sisters who were conjoined twins, 1962 01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:32.880 and they were also actors in this movie. And they 1963 01:44:32.920 --> 01:44:37.279 play sister conjoined sisters and one of them is dating 1964 01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:40.640 a good guy and the other one's dating a bad guy. 1965 01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:45.279 And the bad guy's abusive and she's defending herself. He's 1966 01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:48.359 trying to beat her up and she accidentally kills him, 1967 01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:51.840 and they both go on trial for his bird because 1968 01:44:52.399 --> 01:44:56.199 they had to both go on And I said, this 1969 01:44:56.359 --> 01:45:00.560 is a comedy, and so that that set off stugging you. Yeah, 1970 01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:06.920 And I didn't write it, participated in round table rewrites 1971 01:45:07.680 --> 01:45:11.199 after once they'd written it. It was going closer to production. 1972 01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:14.880 At one point, Meryl Streep was the whole Meryl Streep 1973 01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:17.760 thing was actually going to be Jack Nicholson. Oh. At 1974 01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:21.960 one point, you'll love this. Woody Allen was signed to 1975 01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:25.000 be one of one of the brothers, and we were gonna, 1976 01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:28.840 we're gonna say to explain how he was older and 1977 01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:31.760 everything was they were sharing a liver, so that was 1978 01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:36.319 I he looked. But but and I remember Pete I said, 1979 01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:38.760 what did he say? I mean, Pete said, he said, 1980 01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:42.680 just don't show me on the toilet. So there were 1981 01:45:42.720 --> 01:45:45.279 some interesting twists a lot of the way of that. 1982 01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:47.560 But that's such a sweating that movie. I remember after 1983 01:45:47.600 --> 01:45:50.720 I saw the first screening of it, I said, you, guys, 1984 01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:54.199 you realize that's you guys made a Valentine to each other. 1985 01:45:54.600 --> 01:45:58.760 He really did. That's that's a love to each of you, 1986 01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:01.680 to each of you. So I think that's a very 1987 01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:03.800 underrated movie. I think it's very sweet. 1988 01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:07.760 Well, it really showed us what Matt Damon was capable 1989 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:09.079 as far as comedy. 1990 01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:12.000 He's great at it. And then Greg was great. And yeah, 1991 01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:14.520 but I got a lot of people who tell me 1992 01:46:14.560 --> 01:46:18.399 how much they like it. I'm like, I'm glad you do. Yeah, 1993 01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:19.680 it's a final one. 1994 01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:24.760 And how was it revisiting Lloyd and Harry twenty years 1995 01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:26.840 after to do Dumb and Number two? 1996 01:46:27.319 --> 01:46:31.199 It was so much fun. Everybody was in the best 1997 01:46:31.319 --> 01:46:34.800 mood and everybody we just had a great time doing it. 1998 01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:37.520 I'm starting to figure out why the reaction to the 1999 01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:40.760 movie was because Louis had a very mixed reaction, especially 2000 01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:45.680 for first of all, the first one got almost it 2001 01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:48.800 was not well reviewed. There were only a few good 2002 01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:52.079 reviews of the original Dumb and Dumber. And to give 2003 01:46:52.079 --> 01:46:54.680 you an idea of my mother's sense of humor, she 2004 01:46:54.760 --> 01:46:58.159 only had one review ever in my entire career, on 2005 01:46:58.359 --> 01:47:01.760 the Refrigerator. I wish I could remember which review this 2006 01:47:01.880 --> 01:47:04.039 was from, but it may have been just like a 2007 01:47:04.079 --> 01:47:07.279 local paper. But it said the writer's mother should be 2008 01:47:07.319 --> 01:47:11.239 ashamed of the stuff. That was the only review of 2009 01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:14.840 my mom ever had and was on the which I 2010 01:47:15.079 --> 01:47:20.319 saw everything about Ellen Ellen, but it was a blast. 2011 01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:22.359 I was so shocked with Bee called and said, hey, 2012 01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:24.760 we're going to make another one, and I'm like, it's great, 2013 01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:28.680 I can't wait. And then everyone, Jim and Jeff had 2014 01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:32.560 such a great time making it. They really enjoyed being together. 2015 01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:37.279 I remember when Jeff arrived. He rived his first day. 2016 01:47:38.159 --> 01:47:41.439 It was his birthday and he had just won he'd 2017 01:47:41.479 --> 01:47:45.319 flown in from winning the Emmy for the News Rowy 2018 01:47:46.079 --> 01:47:48.920 and so we saying happy birthday till we had a cake, 2019 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.239 and then he blopped down into his chair and he said, 2020 01:47:51.399 --> 01:47:54.560 I just wanted Emmy, let's make this fuck her. But 2021 01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:58.880 it was a blast. Weird about it, comedy sensibility, I 2022 01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:01.159 don't think this is a strange thing to say. Kid 2023 01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:05.119 does canon does change in some respects. We're in like 2024 01:48:05.199 --> 01:48:09.800 the Hayes Office, some comedy right how it got We've 2025 01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:13.000 gone backwards in some respects, But so a lot of 2026 01:48:13.039 --> 01:48:16.720 what was funny if people laugh in nineteen ninety four 2027 01:48:17.520 --> 01:48:21.479 maybe doesn't fly now. And I don't mean it's inappropriate 2028 01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:23.680 because we got in under the wire of it appropriate. 2029 01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:27.680 We've got a man groping a grandmother. Half that movie 2030 01:48:27.720 --> 01:48:31.239 couldn't be done today, I think. But I was surprised 2031 01:48:31.239 --> 01:48:35.319 that more people because we really felt so affectionate toward 2032 01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:37.199 it and we were making and it was so much fun. 2033 01:48:37.239 --> 01:48:39.800 And that doesn't always mean the movies that'd be good, 2034 01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:43.239 but the energies, the energy was right. It came out 2035 01:48:43.319 --> 01:48:45.680 a lot of fans of dumb and dumbt What happens, 2036 01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:48.399 I think is it's fish the sentence. A lot of 2037 01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:51.319 fans they were like, oh, that's not the way Harry 2038 01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:53.760 and Lloyd like, they were like critical of it. And 2039 01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:57.279 I think what happens is when you love something, you 2040 01:48:57.399 --> 01:49:01.439 literally and you internalize it and it becomes a part 2041 01:49:01.479 --> 01:49:05.159 of you, and your relationship to it is so personal 2042 01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:11.760 and so intense and intimate. That the second one, people 2043 01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:15.079 didn't feel that about those characters, like they felt that 2044 01:49:15.079 --> 01:49:18.159 they were being mean spirit or whatever, and they've always 2045 01:49:18.159 --> 01:49:23.840 been means, they've always adult adolescents. But it was a 2046 01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:26.399 joy to make, and it was so much fun. The 2047 01:49:26.439 --> 01:49:29.239 idea of able to get a do over and do 2048 01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:33.920 it again was just unexpected. I had a blast. It 2049 01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:37.439 was that's the most. That was the most because when 2050 01:49:37.479 --> 01:49:39.279 we were making Domadeo, reidn know is going to be 2051 01:49:39.279 --> 01:49:42.159 a hit. So now and now you're writing a sequel 2052 01:49:42.199 --> 01:49:44.720 to something that was not just a hit, but it's 2053 01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:48.039 like a it's a cult hit. And so we although 2054 01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:51.319 we said, let's not think about what the audience would want, 2055 01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:54.720 let's just trust to do what we want to do 2056 01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:57.760 and that they'll think it's funny. They did before, hopefully 2057 01:49:57.760 --> 01:50:00.680 they will this time. That was a constant, that's a 2058 01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:04.319 question we had. They would maybe they want to see this. No, 2059 01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:09.560 let's not burden ourselves with trying to think what they're thinking. 2060 01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:12.239 Let's just do what we're doing. But it was fun 2061 01:50:12.279 --> 01:50:12.880 for us. 2062 01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:16.079 I mentioned all those levels of comedy earlier. Do you 2063 01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:19.319 have one or two or more that you specialize in 2064 01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:22.479 do they come to you for here's the visual gags 2065 01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:23.760 or here's the wordplay. 2066 01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:27.039 No, and in fact a genre guy. So as I 2067 01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:30.880 write with different writing partners, done different types of projects. 2068 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:33.279 So I've done a horror film. In fact, I just 2069 01:50:33.399 --> 01:50:39.680 sold Hours before the Strike, sold a supernatural thriller, so 2070 01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:43.560 I've done that. I've done family films, a Christmas movie, 2071 01:50:43.960 --> 01:50:48.319 all co written with different writing partners, a Disney movie 2072 01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:51.119 of the Week, all over the place. So I like 2073 01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:55.720 doing comedy best only because when you're writing, you're in 2074 01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:58.279 that the period of time it takes to write it, 2075 01:50:58.520 --> 01:51:03.560 which is months, weeks and two months. You're living the 2076 01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:05.880 energy of that movie, if it's a horror movie or 2077 01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:08.840 if it's a I did a like revenge thriller called 2078 01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:13.680 In the Blood with Gina Carano, the beloved Gina Aran. 2079 01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:17.640 That's the word I'm in canceled. But you're in the 2080 01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:20.600 energy of the movie you're writing. And I like being 2081 01:51:21.119 --> 01:51:25.720 I'm a lighthearted person and maybe lightheaded sometimes, but I 2082 01:51:25.840 --> 01:51:31.119 like being in a happy place. Movies, puppies. We wrote 2083 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:33.680 a sequel to Marley and Me that didn't get made. 2084 01:51:34.079 --> 01:51:37.760 It was like a like the Lost Weekend of Marley, 2085 01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:42.239 A chapter in Marley and things like that, and so 2086 01:51:42.359 --> 01:51:45.439 much stuff that I've written didn't get done. Oh my gosh, 2087 01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:48.600 it's the number of scripts and projects that don't get 2088 01:51:48.640 --> 01:51:52.000 made but you get paid, Thank goodness. I don't think 2089 01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:54.680 there's anything that once. And the other thing also is 2090 01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:57.800 that once my writing partner and I get into a room, 2091 01:51:58.279 --> 01:52:01.119 we're really good for great about If we're drawn to 2092 01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:03.880 a project and we're going in to try and pitch 2093 01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:08.640 on it, we're good. You conduct ourselves, we can impress. 2094 01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:12.119 But I don't. I know certainly are things that I've 2095 01:52:12.119 --> 01:52:15.359 probably gotten comedy wise been asked to do that we're 2096 01:52:15.439 --> 01:52:20.279 the best, because dumb. There's no question nobody's ever said, oh, 2097 01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:23.920 you wrote the sequel to Oh is it called the. 2098 01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:26.359 Trucker joy Ride? 2099 01:52:26.720 --> 01:52:29.680 Yeah? Joyride? You wrote the sequel to Joybride. We want 2100 01:52:29.720 --> 01:52:32.560 you to do this too. Nobody's mentioned joy Ride? Is it? 2101 01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:36.840 But you're right? And see that's another thriller. I like genre, 2102 01:52:37.319 --> 01:52:39.680 but I like comedy, Bess. I do like it, and 2103 01:52:39.720 --> 01:52:42.920 comedy is the sort of thing that really comes with it. 2104 01:52:43.079 --> 01:52:46.439 It comes out with collaboration. I couldn't just sit and write. 2105 01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:50.199 I wouldn't trust lines that I write necessarily myself. They're 2106 01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:52.920 want to throw them back and forth. Somebody tells me 2107 01:52:52.960 --> 01:52:55.000 something and I'll go, yeah, I want we add this 2108 01:52:55.039 --> 01:52:58.600 to it. It's very satisfying that kind of work that 2109 01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:01.439 M's have been interesting to go back can work so 2110 01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:04.760 intensely with the Fairlies and were there other people involved 2111 01:53:04.760 --> 01:53:08.119 with the sequel. Jim had read the script called Mister 2112 01:53:08.159 --> 01:53:11.479 Popper's Penguins, which was made to a movie, and he 2113 01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:14.880 loved the screenplay and I cannot, Oh God, I wish 2114 01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:16.880 I could remember the name of the writers. But he 2115 01:53:16.920 --> 01:53:20.920 really liked those writers. So we agreed, let's let these 2116 01:53:21.039 --> 01:53:24.640 those writers write the first draft of Dom and Dober two, 2117 01:53:25.399 --> 01:53:27.039 and then Pete and Bobby and I would come in 2118 01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:30.439 and rewrite it. And we all agree from the beginning 2119 01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:33.840 to take shared screen credit. We worked in a it 2120 01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:36.000 was an agreement in front of it, which is perfect, 2121 01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:40.439 and they handed it in. We ended up having to rewrite. 2122 01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:43.039 I want to say this diplomatically because those guys have 2123 01:53:43.079 --> 01:53:45.920 gone onto like huge careers, and so I don't want 2124 01:53:45.920 --> 01:53:49.039 to say anything negative about them. They're great writers, but 2125 01:53:49.119 --> 01:53:54.840 we ended up rewriting it significantly. But so they worked 2126 01:53:54.880 --> 01:53:58.319 on it, and then the point Bobby had to take 2127 01:53:58.359 --> 01:54:01.319 some time to bow out, and we brought on a 2128 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:05.319 friend of ours, Mike Sara and who's very funny guy, 2129 01:54:05.439 --> 01:54:08.039 very funny writer, and so Mike worked on that with 2130 01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:10.520 us too, and so we all shared that. So there 2131 01:54:10.600 --> 01:54:14.199 was I feel like an asked for not remembering the. 2132 01:54:14.279 --> 01:54:17.079 Guy Sean Anders and John Morris. 2133 01:54:17.239 --> 01:54:20.680 Yes, Sewan Anders and John Morris very nice guys too. 2134 01:54:21.399 --> 01:54:25.039 And then yeah, so there's them, Peter, Bobby, myself and 2135 01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:28.279 then Mike SARONYA a lot of people on that one. 2136 01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:31.760 But it was so much fun. We laughed so much 2137 01:54:31.800 --> 01:54:32.359 writing it. 2138 01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:35.239 So yeah, I can't even imagine what that must be 2139 01:54:35.399 --> 01:54:38.239 like to sit there and do that whole this line 2140 01:54:38.279 --> 01:54:41.239 that's funnier. We were just talking recently on the show 2141 01:54:41.239 --> 01:54:44.760 about Ernest Slupitch and Billy Wilder and it was just like, 2142 01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:46.680 who's going to come up with the button? Who's got 2143 01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:48.359 the best button for each bit? 2144 01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:53.159 Billy Wilder is my favorite screenwriter. When I saw something 2145 01:54:53.199 --> 01:54:56.880 like it hot and it was, it changed, I suddenly realized, oh, 2146 01:54:56.960 --> 01:55:00.359 you mean a movie. Every line in a movie can 2147 01:55:01.199 --> 01:55:03.560 can lead to another line, and then that can be 2148 01:55:03.600 --> 01:55:07.800 brought back something they saw how a screenplay functioned at 2149 01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:12.880 multiple levels and aspired to be by the way again. 2150 01:55:13.079 --> 01:55:16.239 One of the one hundred and one, along with several 2151 01:55:16.279 --> 01:55:20.960 Billy Wilder scripts, is Beyond I can't believe it. It 2152 01:55:21.640 --> 01:55:22.479 blows my mind. 2153 01:55:23.159 --> 01:55:26.279 Yeah, So when you're not picketing, what are you up 2154 01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:27.000 to these days? 2155 01:55:27.640 --> 01:55:30.039 Now? That's it. So I want if anyone from the 2156 01:55:30.039 --> 01:55:31.960 guild is watching this, I want them to know that's 2157 01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:34.800 all I do is picket. The one thing I have 2158 01:55:34.880 --> 01:55:37.800 done by writing part and I is can get windy 2159 01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:41.239 here it's s Angeles but and you've got the sign 2160 01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:46.039 and there's splinters and stuff. So we've turned made sandwich boards. 2161 01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:49.760 So we walk around with sandwich boards and we're the 2162 01:55:49.760 --> 01:55:52.399 only ones out there wearing sandwich board. Nobody else is. 2163 01:55:52.439 --> 01:55:56.880 Every time we show either Netflix or Warner Brothers or whatever, 2164 01:55:57.079 --> 01:56:00.279 people going that's a great idea, and we're like, do 2165 01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:03.560 it because basically, if I see one other person do it, 2166 01:56:03.600 --> 01:56:06.840 I'm going to retire. That's my work here is done, 2167 01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:10.359 so I think. But now it's interest time, Like I 2168 01:56:10.399 --> 01:56:14.680 am somewhere retired, so thinking about what do I want 2169 01:56:14.720 --> 01:56:18.119 to do? And other projects have come up that have 2170 01:56:18.279 --> 01:56:20.479 been surprising and out of left field and one of 2171 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:23.720 them was, and this is before the strike, that the 2172 01:56:23.880 --> 01:56:28.960 company that called Rovio that owns the IP for Angry Birds, 2173 01:56:29.199 --> 01:56:34.199 they wanted to do a stage like a ninety minute 2174 01:56:34.239 --> 01:56:39.479 family stage show of Angry Birds. So we got writing 2175 01:56:39.479 --> 01:56:42.439 partner James Johnston and I, who's who I've written with 2176 01:56:42.680 --> 01:56:46.079 for fifteen years, so that's a pretty long partnership. I 2177 01:56:46.079 --> 01:56:48.720 think my partnership with Peter involving was maybe like seven. 2178 01:56:49.319 --> 01:56:51.760 But we got involved in that and they hired us. 2179 01:56:52.159 --> 01:56:56.439 Who knows whether Domin Dubber was helpful, it didn't hurt, 2180 01:56:56.520 --> 01:56:59.800 there's no question about. We may have hired one of 2181 01:56:59.840 --> 01:57:02.520 the I was from Devin Dunter, and we did it. 2182 01:57:02.840 --> 01:57:05.439 We wrote it and was I'd never done it before, 2183 01:57:05.600 --> 01:57:08.000 neither James or I had ever done a stage show. 2184 01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:12.720 The one thing. Never even played Angry Words on my phone. 2185 01:57:13.479 --> 01:57:17.640 But I watched both of the movies the cartoons, and 2186 01:57:17.680 --> 01:57:23.800 they're really funny movies. They're really solid scripts, great voice work, 2187 01:57:24.199 --> 01:57:26.880 and we said, hey, if you want us to do 2188 01:57:26.960 --> 01:57:30.880 that on the stage, we'd love to, and that's what 2189 01:57:30.920 --> 01:57:33.880 we did. So we did that and now we're seeing 2190 01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:37.239 how that plays out. But that was a blast. I 2191 01:57:37.439 --> 01:57:39.119 was one of one of the most enjoyable things I've 2192 01:57:39.159 --> 01:57:41.439 ever done. It was a lot of fun that it's 2193 01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:44.000 a really it's a really funny it's a funny script. 2194 01:57:44.359 --> 01:57:49.279 I've always opened to that sort of thing. Writing is writing, right, 2195 01:57:50.119 --> 01:57:54.560 I'm relaxing. I'm enjoying my dotage. Gonna call me Dame 2196 01:57:54.720 --> 01:57:55.520 Bennett soon. 2197 01:57:56.319 --> 01:57:58.239 Mister Yellen, thank you so much for your time. This 2198 01:57:58.279 --> 01:58:00.319 has been so nice talking with you. 2199 01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:04.359 Mister White. You asked very good questions. Thank you. Now, 2200 01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:06.640 this is very enjoyable. And where are you. 2201 01:58:07.560 --> 01:58:08.920 I'm just outside of Detroit. 2202 01:58:09.720 --> 01:58:12.760 Okay, just outside, that's right, all right, I'll meet you 2203 01:58:12.800 --> 01:58:13.560 at the truck stop. 2204 01:58:13.760 --> 01:58:19.199 Never for manly love or men we got there was a. 2205 01:58:19.079 --> 01:58:24.319 Memo that circulated fast around a new line when we 2206 01:58:24.359 --> 01:58:28.600 had the first cut of the movie, and there were 2207 01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:32.520 some gay employees who were offended. They felt it was homophobic. 2208 01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:36.159 Trust me, we didn't write it any intention to be 2209 01:58:36.279 --> 01:58:39.319 homophobic or to be was not at all our intent. 2210 01:58:39.920 --> 01:58:43.880 But defended some employees and so detailed what they were, 2211 01:58:43.880 --> 01:58:47.600 and we said take it up. So what's left is 2212 01:58:47.680 --> 01:58:51.520 just manly love. That's it. But I wonder again today, 2213 01:58:51.560 --> 01:58:53.479 I wonder if you could get away with it if 2214 01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:56.159 we'd made Dumb and Dumber today, I do we have 2215 01:58:56.199 --> 01:58:58.560 to make changes in Dumb and Dumber two, but we 2216 01:58:58.600 --> 01:59:01.319 probably would have to make some changes in Dumb and Duver. 2217 01:59:01.960 --> 01:59:05.359 You can't talk about a woman's anatomy even like that. 2218 01:59:05.439 --> 01:59:09.000 They can't giggle about that sort of thing too. I 2219 01:59:09.039 --> 01:59:11.520 think I could do another one. The guys would. I 2220 01:59:11.560 --> 01:59:13.359 think the guys would like to make another one. But 2221 01:59:13.439 --> 01:59:16.800 on the other hand, doesn't need doesn't have to. It's 2222 01:59:16.880 --> 01:59:20.199 not I'm this philosophical rate of my life where if 2223 01:59:20.239 --> 01:59:25.079 something isn't necessary, then don't do it. Two we're good. 2224 01:59:25.720 --> 01:59:28.279 I don't do things just for the money. I do 2225 01:59:28.359 --> 01:59:34.640 it for the spiritual satisfaction whatever it's not. There is 2226 01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:38.640 maybe talk about possibly fighting some sort of streamy or 2227 01:59:38.680 --> 01:59:42.800 television sort of exploration for the two characters, but I don't. 2228 01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:46.079 If it happens, it's great, and if it doesn't, it's 2229 01:59:46.560 --> 01:59:50.119 I'm fine with it. I'm not your typical need to 2230 01:59:50.119 --> 01:59:52.840 do it. It has to be exploited. I need more money. 2231 01:59:53.319 --> 01:59:56.840 I don't think that way. The cash gow is there's 2232 01:59:56.840 --> 02:00:00.960 nothing left, there's no milk left, so kill it and 2233 02:00:01.039 --> 02:00:04.319 make some burgers for God's sakes and then feed the world. 2234 02:00:06.520 --> 02:00:07.560 This summer. 2235 02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:13.680 You Line Cinema proudly presents the greatest saga of all time, 2236 02:00:15.439 --> 02:00:22.760 from the very beginning of Dumb and Dumber. 2237 02:00:22.840 --> 02:00:24.560 Sorry about that, buddy, it's my first time bringing a 2238 02:00:24.560 --> 02:00:25.199 friend up there. 2239 02:00:25.399 --> 02:00:28.520 Okay, so high school's all about looking cool, Harry, so 2240 02:00:28.520 --> 02:00:29.000 stick with me. 2241 02:00:31.640 --> 02:00:32.319 What stinks? 2242 02:00:33.119 --> 02:00:33.800 That'd be me, sir? 2243 02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:35.720 They're on the journey? 2244 02:00:36.119 --> 02:00:36.920 Is that what I think it is? 2245 02:00:37.079 --> 02:00:42.119 Noped treasure map, cool and an adventure. It's O's a loss, Harry. 2246 02:00:42.079 --> 02:00:43.720 Of idiotic proportions. 2247 02:00:44.600 --> 02:00:46.119 It's even sort of than ionizing. 2248 02:00:46.199 --> 02:00:51.359 The state's giving one hundred grand in every school that 2249 02:00:51.479 --> 02:00:56.079 has a special needs flash. The problem is where do 2250 02:00:56.159 --> 02:00:59.479 we find kids we can pass off as special? 2251 02:01:00.159 --> 02:01:03.399 Stuck FINGO on June thirteenth. 2252 02:01:03.479 --> 02:01:05.680 Well, I've got a little surprise for you. 2253 02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:06.680 You got the extender. 2254 02:01:07.199 --> 02:01:07.880 That's gross. 2255 02:01:07.960 --> 02:01:09.000 It's a meeting. 2256 02:01:10.479 --> 02:01:17.359 Of the mindless? 2257 02:01:18.119 --> 02:01:19.119 Are you trying to be funny? 2258 02:01:19.119 --> 02:01:20.239 Are you actually reading. 2259 02:01:21.920 --> 02:01:23.000 Special Crash? 2260 02:01:24.359 --> 02:01:26.760 Before the first movie there. 2261 02:01:26.760 --> 02:01:27.960 Was high school? 2262 02:01:28.239 --> 02:01:28.800 What are you doing? 2263 02:01:28.960 --> 02:01:29.520 What are you doing? 2264 02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:30.560 I think I need a. 2265 02:01:30.560 --> 02:01:32.439 Bacon because it's gonna be on the mid term. 2266 02:01:36.680 --> 02:01:39.079 No, that's my boy. 2267 02:01:39.680 --> 02:01:41.159 Girls, anyone want to settle this? 2268 02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:42.800 Make y'all contest. 2269 02:01:45.640 --> 02:01:47.039 Mom, Hi, lady. 2270 02:01:47.159 --> 02:01:51.199 Dumb and Dumber when Harry met Lloyd? 2271 02:01:52.039 --> 02:01:52.560 Did you just. 2272 02:01:54.039 --> 02:01:57.239 Maybe all right? We were back and we were talking 2273 02:01:57.239 --> 02:02:00.840 about Dumb and Dumber, And of course, like I always say, 2274 02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:03.960 any good movie deserves a bad sequel, but I would 2275 02:02:04.039 --> 02:02:08.399 say that this movie actually has a pretty good sequel, 2276 02:02:08.600 --> 02:02:11.800 and I'm going to put this out there and hopefully 2277 02:02:11.800 --> 02:02:13.680 you guys can tear me a new one. I thought 2278 02:02:13.720 --> 02:02:16.960 that the prequel was pretty good as well, Dumb and 2279 02:02:17.119 --> 02:02:22.680 Dumberer when Harry met Lloyd, which I think it kind 2280 02:02:22.680 --> 02:02:25.159 of lights that one. What did you guys think of 2281 02:02:25.199 --> 02:02:25.760 the prequel? 2282 02:02:26.479 --> 02:02:28.720 Not so crazy about the when Harry met For the 2283 02:02:28.800 --> 02:02:32.000 stupid people in the audience, I'll get dumb and Dummer. 2284 02:02:32.800 --> 02:02:36.920 I don't recognize those characters whatsoever. Oh, Harry and Lloyd. Right, 2285 02:02:37.199 --> 02:02:37.920 that's the one. 2286 02:02:41.000 --> 02:02:44.920 Maybe not liked, but definitely found things to like about it. 2287 02:02:45.039 --> 02:02:48.000 I would say that Dumb and Dumber there were moments 2288 02:02:48.000 --> 02:02:50.000 where it would just throw me off and where I 2289 02:02:50.039 --> 02:02:54.479 felt like the tone wasn't quite the right tone. That like, 2290 02:02:54.520 --> 02:02:56.800 it's like it's not written by the same people, it's 2291 02:02:56.800 --> 02:02:59.560 not the same performers, but within that realm of an 2292 02:02:59.640 --> 02:03:04.960 unnecessary prequel that doesn't have the same people associated with it. 2293 02:03:05.199 --> 02:03:08.920 I do think there were some moments where I don't know, 2294 02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:11.920 it had its own little moments of idiocy and it 2295 02:03:11.960 --> 02:03:13.720 made me laugh. Like an example would be when the 2296 02:03:14.199 --> 02:03:16.680 character Jessica says to Harry to come by her house 2297 02:03:16.720 --> 02:03:20.600 around seven, and he says, o'clock come on, so. 2298 02:03:20.600 --> 02:03:22.439 You'll pick me up tonight at seven forty five. 2299 02:03:23.279 --> 02:03:25.720 Joy, Well, no, I got a few things to take 2300 02:03:25.760 --> 02:03:27.560 care of first, but why don't we make a quarter 2301 02:03:27.560 --> 02:03:27.920 to eight? 2302 02:03:28.840 --> 02:03:31.239 But the guy who does young Jim Carrey. Also it's 2303 02:03:31.279 --> 02:03:34.239 like I have to give him credit, like he's doing 2304 02:03:34.800 --> 02:03:37.439 It's an impression, for sure, but it's not like a 2305 02:03:37.439 --> 02:03:41.760 Saturday Night Live sketch impression. He's actually doing something. It's 2306 02:03:41.760 --> 02:03:44.800 a finely tuned comic performance that happens to be exactly 2307 02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:47.560 imitative of Jim Carrey's energy. But he does do something 2308 02:03:47.600 --> 02:03:49.640 with it, and I was impressed to I looked at 2309 02:03:49.720 --> 02:03:52.239 the actor's resume and I realize I know him from Community. 2310 02:03:52.239 --> 02:03:55.399 He played Vaughn, the kind of hippie bro, the shirtless 2311 02:03:55.439 --> 02:03:58.319 hippie bro with the tiny nipples, who is in a 2312 02:03:58.319 --> 02:04:00.600 recurring role in that show. But I him from that, 2313 02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:02.479 and I was like, Okay, so that shows he has 2314 02:04:02.520 --> 02:04:05.640 comic range because in that he's totally not a weird 2315 02:04:05.760 --> 02:04:07.880 bull cut dork like he is in this. 2316 02:04:08.680 --> 02:04:12.199 I knew him as Mason's son on twenty four. He 2317 02:04:12.239 --> 02:04:15.159 has like a two episode arc when Mason gets exposed 2318 02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:19.279 to radiation and then starts quickly dying and he starts 2319 02:04:19.279 --> 02:04:21.079 getting me in his affairs in order and he finds 2320 02:04:21.079 --> 02:04:23.000 his son, and he's only in it for two episodes, 2321 02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:25.119 but that's what I remember him most far. 2322 02:04:25.680 --> 02:04:30.239 I know him only as Deeks from NCIS Los Angeles, 2323 02:04:30.239 --> 02:04:34.279 where he's like this kind of hip surfer dude FBA 2324 02:04:34.399 --> 02:04:40.279 while not n CIS agent, and he's so hip and cool, 2325 02:04:40.399 --> 02:04:43.199 And when I saw him in Dumb and Dummer, I 2326 02:04:43.279 --> 02:04:46.800 was like, that's the same guy. And I don't know 2327 02:04:46.800 --> 02:04:48.840 if they actually chipped his tooth or if it was 2328 02:04:48.880 --> 02:04:52.079 an appliance, but he yeah, he really goes for it 2329 02:04:52.119 --> 02:04:56.479 and really does a Jim Carrey impersonation like nobody's business. 2330 02:04:56.720 --> 02:04:59.479 And that's something we didn't bring up earlier. The chip 2331 02:04:59.560 --> 02:05:02.520 tooth Jim Carrey has is his real tooth, and he 2332 02:05:02.560 --> 02:05:05.119 wears a falsey whenever he's he's out in public and 2333 02:05:05.920 --> 02:05:09.359 doing red carpet events, but that is how he's teeth naturally. 2334 02:05:09.399 --> 02:05:11.840 Look. It kind of links to that thing I was 2335 02:05:11.880 --> 02:05:13.439 saying about how this is in some ways like the 2336 02:05:13.479 --> 02:05:16.800 perfect comedy form of Jim Carrey that he was like this, 2337 02:05:16.800 --> 02:05:18.760 will I'll have my real tooth for this, you know 2338 02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:21.479 what I mean. There's something about it says that's a 2339 02:05:21.520 --> 02:05:23.720 way of getting in touch with the character that feels 2340 02:05:23.760 --> 02:05:26.159 like it does change his looks, so does that awful haircut. 2341 02:05:26.199 --> 02:05:29.039 Of course, Dumb and Dummer has that other thing too. 2342 02:05:29.119 --> 02:05:32.159 Of there's certain jokes that just it's like they just 2343 02:05:32.199 --> 02:05:35.159 haven't aged well in the context of if you did 2344 02:05:35.199 --> 02:05:37.520 them now you would they just would feel different even 2345 02:05:37.560 --> 02:05:39.199 if you wanted to joke about the same thing. Like 2346 02:05:39.239 --> 02:05:41.840 I think some of the kind of Asian humor in 2347 02:05:42.159 --> 02:05:46.399 Dumb and Dummer really did not age well compared to 2348 02:05:46.399 --> 02:05:50.039 the other stuff that's like transgressive, where you're like, Okay, 2349 02:05:50.239 --> 02:05:52.159 maybe there's a certain amount of that kind of gay 2350 02:05:52.199 --> 02:05:55.359 panic stuff that was very popular in comedies of this time, 2351 02:05:55.520 --> 02:05:58.560 but it's couched in the fact that these guys are idiots. 2352 02:05:59.279 --> 02:06:01.399 So some of the stuff, like I saw some people 2353 02:06:01.439 --> 02:06:03.800 saying that they were too mean spirited in the in 2354 02:06:03.880 --> 02:06:06.479 Dumb and Dumber two, or that the characters were not 2355 02:06:06.520 --> 02:06:09.239 as they didn't know the characters. But I feel like 2356 02:06:09.239 --> 02:06:11.479 these have always been nasty guys in a certain way, 2357 02:06:11.520 --> 02:06:14.119 Like they betray each other constantly and they're always trying 2358 02:06:14.159 --> 02:06:16.760 to get one up on people. So I don't think 2359 02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:19.039 it's out of character for them to have like crappy 2360 02:06:19.119 --> 02:06:22.960 views or to represent something nasty in a moment. But 2361 02:06:23.119 --> 02:06:25.159 I do think sometimes you watch an old comedy and 2362 02:06:25.199 --> 02:06:27.239 you go, oh, they weren't quite meaning to make the 2363 02:06:27.319 --> 02:06:29.880 joke that now it seems like they're making because they 2364 02:06:29.880 --> 02:06:34.279 weren't thinking about how kind of limited and reductive the 2365 02:06:34.319 --> 02:06:37.319 Asian representation in this movie would seem. And I feel 2366 02:06:37.359 --> 02:06:39.399 it's the same way with the sort of homophobic jokes. 2367 02:06:39.399 --> 02:06:42.000 It's like that stuff just it's not, oh, I'm so offended, 2368 02:06:42.079 --> 02:06:44.439 it's just, oh, this movie would be just fine without 2369 02:06:44.439 --> 02:06:44.960 this stuff. 2370 02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:50.319 My biggest surprise from Dumb and Dumber err is Shia 2371 02:06:50.359 --> 02:06:52.600 lah Boof. I had no idea that he was in this. 2372 02:06:52.680 --> 02:06:55.479 I just wrote down the beef that was. 2373 02:06:55.439 --> 02:06:59.039 Amazing, And I love how they're so dumb that he 2374 02:06:59.119 --> 02:07:02.520 thinks that think that he's half man, half horse because 2375 02:07:02.520 --> 02:07:05.600 he's a mascot, and then later on when he's also 2376 02:07:05.720 --> 02:07:08.800 a mascot but now for a like a fish place 2377 02:07:08.880 --> 02:07:11.159 or whatever it is, and he's dressed like a pirate 2378 02:07:11.560 --> 02:07:14.239 and they think that he's a literal pirate, or I 2379 02:07:14.279 --> 02:07:16.600 think that's just Lloyd thinks that he's a pirate and 2380 02:07:16.640 --> 02:07:21.199 that he's actually Harry's invisible friend. That whole thing, and 2381 02:07:21.239 --> 02:07:23.880 then it was nice seeing Mimi Rodgers. It's always great 2382 02:07:23.920 --> 02:07:28.359 to see Louis Guzman, and then Eugene Levy and Cherry. Oh, 2383 02:07:28.439 --> 02:07:31.399 Terry I thought were great as the principal and the 2384 02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:36.479 lunch lady turned special ed teacher. So there. Yeah, gave 2385 02:07:36.520 --> 02:07:40.920 me a couple lass which I was really just shocked by. 2386 02:07:41.600 --> 02:07:43.439 When they get hung up on the flagpole and one 2387 02:07:43.479 --> 02:07:45.159 of them says, so this is what a flag sees 2388 02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:48.039 all day. It's so dumb. I think. When this one 2389 02:07:48.159 --> 02:07:49.720 came on, I put this one on because I had 2390 02:07:49.720 --> 02:07:52.800 never seen it before. I just instantly had that thought of, Okay, 2391 02:07:52.840 --> 02:07:55.039 if a movie is trying to be dumb, and all 2392 02:07:55.039 --> 02:07:57.439 it's trying to be is funny, there's a certain kind 2393 02:07:57.479 --> 02:08:01.079 of forgiveness I have in my heart for I'm not 2394 02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:04.119 gonna it's like I'm not. Maybe there's not much expectation 2395 02:08:04.239 --> 02:08:06.600 for some comedies, but if that's all you're trying to do, 2396 02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:10.359 I don't really begrudge a movie for being dumb when 2397 02:08:10.439 --> 02:08:14.199 that's clearly the goal. There is something that doesn't quite 2398 02:08:14.319 --> 02:08:17.199 nail the tone in the characters. But in my mind, 2399 02:08:17.279 --> 02:08:20.399 I was always putting it next to that Kid ace 2400 02:08:20.479 --> 02:08:23.760 Ventura movie, where it's like, oh god, little boy acting 2401 02:08:23.880 --> 02:08:27.479 like ace Ventura. And it's not that it's not as 2402 02:08:27.520 --> 02:08:30.680 awful and hard to watch as that Acepina Junior. 2403 02:08:31.600 --> 02:08:35.000 Yes, God, oh man, and it's. 2404 02:08:34.920 --> 02:08:38.840 Amazing that Dumb and Dummer, like the other two Jim 2405 02:08:38.880 --> 02:08:41.319 Carrey movies that came out in nineteen ninety four, all 2406 02:08:41.399 --> 02:08:45.439 received animated series. Yeah, that's crazy, and if you count 2407 02:08:45.479 --> 02:08:48.520 Batman Forever the next year, Batman the animated series was 2408 02:08:48.560 --> 02:08:50.159 on at the time because they were making fun of 2409 02:08:50.199 --> 02:08:53.039 that movie, so technically he's got four animated series. 2410 02:08:53.359 --> 02:08:55.279 Did either of you guys get a chance to watch 2411 02:08:55.359 --> 02:08:57.840 Dumb and Dumber the kurtoon from ninety five. 2412 02:08:58.199 --> 02:09:00.199 I watched one episode I was able to. I was 2413 02:09:00.199 --> 02:09:02.520 really curious about it because I almost maybe i'd seen 2414 02:09:02.640 --> 02:09:04.319 a moment or two from it, but I don't know 2415 02:09:04.359 --> 02:09:07.239 that I had an awareness of this, so I I 2416 02:09:07.279 --> 02:09:08.800 just wanted to see the style of the animation, and 2417 02:09:08.840 --> 02:09:10.039 when I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah, this 2418 02:09:10.079 --> 02:09:14.920 is definitely nineteen ninety five style animation and character designs. 2419 02:09:15.039 --> 02:09:17.600 But what I love is that the conventions are in 2420 02:09:17.640 --> 02:09:19.680 place from when I was a kid, and it was 2421 02:09:19.720 --> 02:09:21.560 like the seventies into the eighties when they would do 2422 02:09:21.600 --> 02:09:23.920 the animated show based on the sitcom they would do, 2423 02:09:24.000 --> 02:09:26.640 like the Laverne and Shirley Show or whatever, but like 2424 02:09:27.079 --> 02:09:29.880 the animated show always has a talking animal or an 2425 02:09:29.920 --> 02:09:33.239 alien or a robot or something fantastical in it, and 2426 02:09:33.359 --> 02:09:37.399 dumb and dumber they have a purple beaver that it 2427 02:09:37.439 --> 02:09:40.159 doesn't speak, but is like smarter than them and sometimes 2428 02:09:40.199 --> 02:09:42.680 points things out to them and helps them out with stuff. 2429 02:09:42.680 --> 02:09:44.680 So I do think it's funny that, like, even though 2430 02:09:44.680 --> 02:09:47.760 the animation style was more kind of postern and stimpy 2431 02:09:47.960 --> 02:09:50.800 influenced and not what in my mind when I read 2432 02:09:50.800 --> 02:09:53.079 the description, I was picturing like a Hanna Barbara cartoon 2433 02:09:53.119 --> 02:09:55.640 from nineteen eighty two or something. It's not that it's 2434 02:09:55.720 --> 02:09:58.680 much more modern than that, but it still hits that 2435 02:09:58.720 --> 02:10:00.720 thing of Oh, they have to have an animal mascot, 2436 02:10:00.760 --> 02:10:03.039 and it has to be somehow like fantastical. So it's 2437 02:10:03.039 --> 02:10:05.680 a purple beaver. It's just such an odd It should have. 2438 02:10:05.640 --> 02:10:07.640 Done the Back to the Future cartoon and had the 2439 02:10:07.680 --> 02:10:11.520 purple beaver give science lessons in between episodes. Oh, it's 2440 02:10:11.560 --> 02:10:12.520 like Doc Brown would do. 2441 02:10:13.119 --> 02:10:15.720 Oh god, I never saw that cartoon. I didn't even 2442 02:10:15.720 --> 02:10:17.479 know there was one until that just came out of 2443 02:10:17.479 --> 02:10:17.920 your mouth. 2444 02:10:18.199 --> 02:10:19.960 Did you know about the Lavern and Shirley cartoon? 2445 02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:20.119 Mic? 2446 02:10:20.239 --> 02:10:23.000 Just as quick, I did not know there was a 2447 02:10:23.479 --> 02:10:25.079 I want to check what I'm about to tell you. 2448 02:10:25.199 --> 02:10:27.239 I believe there was one where they were in the 2449 02:10:27.399 --> 02:10:31.600 army and they had a drill sergeant who was a pig. 2450 02:10:32.560 --> 02:10:36.720 Oh wow. Didn't they appear on Scooby Doo at one point? Oh, 2451 02:10:36.720 --> 02:10:37.680 I'm certain they must have. 2452 02:10:37.800 --> 02:10:42.039 Yet, I was very surprised that the character design of 2453 02:10:42.079 --> 02:10:45.159 these of this cartoon because it so reminded me of 2454 02:10:45.279 --> 02:10:51.199 like Powerpuff Girls Dexter's Laboratory. But this was ninety five, 2455 02:10:51.279 --> 02:10:52.600 and I don't think. 2456 02:10:52.640 --> 02:10:56.560 When those shows were starting. Okay, yeah, it was Hanna 2457 02:10:56.600 --> 02:10:59.600 Barbara on the Way Out and the Cartoon Network brand 2458 02:10:59.720 --> 02:11:00.880 kind of coming on the way in. 2459 02:11:01.800 --> 02:11:06.399 Especially the way that Lloyd looks where it's the bowl cut, 2460 02:11:06.439 --> 02:11:08.960 but then there's a little streak in his hair to 2461 02:11:09.039 --> 02:11:12.119 kind of show that it's almost shiny, and then the 2462 02:11:12.239 --> 02:11:16.359 exaggerated features of Harry where he's got this majorly big nose, 2463 02:11:16.560 --> 02:11:20.479 majorly big chin coming out. It's really nice to hear 2464 02:11:20.840 --> 02:11:24.159 Bill fager Becky's or however you pronounce it, part of 2465 02:11:24.199 --> 02:11:27.279 me his voice coming out of Harry. 2466 02:11:27.800 --> 02:11:28.119 Though. 2467 02:11:28.239 --> 02:11:30.600 I was saying to Ryan before we started recording that 2468 02:11:30.680 --> 02:11:34.920 it's amazing that Patrick Starr is dumber than Harry, which 2469 02:11:35.000 --> 02:11:39.800 is amazing. But yeah, it's almost like a precursor to 2470 02:11:39.920 --> 02:11:42.640 SpongeBob with the way that these two are sometimes. But 2471 02:11:42.760 --> 02:11:48.560 there's no meanness. Obviously, neither Patrick Starr nor SpongeBob ever 2472 02:11:49.159 --> 02:11:52.479 intend to be mean. Ever, they're a little bit like 2473 02:11:52.560 --> 02:11:55.119 Harry and Lloyd in that the way that they annoyed 2474 02:11:55.119 --> 02:11:57.760 squid word. But I also have to say that Matt 2475 02:11:57.800 --> 02:12:00.800 Fruher did a really good Lloyd Christmas. But it's Matt Frewer, 2476 02:12:00.920 --> 02:12:02.760 so yeah, he can do no wrong. 2477 02:12:02.800 --> 02:12:05.640 In my book, it made me realize how much the 2478 02:12:05.720 --> 02:12:08.479 sort of somebody stopped me that kind of Jim Carrey said, 2479 02:12:08.800 --> 02:12:13.039 set's very max Headroom, and so Frewer doing Jim Carrey 2480 02:12:13.119 --> 02:12:17.720 it fits. It's like this heightened as this person thinks 2481 02:12:17.760 --> 02:12:20.560 they're an entertainer and they're doing this thing. So I was, 2482 02:12:20.840 --> 02:12:22.800 but I had the same thought. Matt Frewer does a 2483 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:26.119 great job, and I think that so does Patrick. I'll 2484 02:12:26.159 --> 02:12:27.359 just call him Patrick because I don't know how to 2485 02:12:27.359 --> 02:12:30.279 pronounce his last name either. But he's got such a 2486 02:12:30.319 --> 02:12:33.239 recognizable voice that it was it didn't feel as much 2487 02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:37.039 like an impression of what Jeff Daniels is doing, by 2488 02:12:37.039 --> 02:12:38.800 the way, I wanted to say, Yes, I was correct 2489 02:12:38.800 --> 02:12:42.479 that the Laverna's early cartoon they had a drill sergeant 2490 02:12:42.560 --> 02:12:45.920 named Sergeant Squeally who was a pig, and it's voiced 2491 02:12:45.960 --> 02:12:49.199 by horses. Shack, oh wow, welcome back catter. 2492 02:12:49.479 --> 02:12:53.439 So yeah, it's really celebrity boxing days before he found his. 2493 02:12:53.399 --> 02:12:56.359 True calling as a celebrity boxer. I didn't even think 2494 02:12:56.359 --> 02:12:59.000 about that. This was before some of those cartoons that 2495 02:12:59.079 --> 02:13:01.399 it feels in league with, like around this time. Definitely, 2496 02:13:01.399 --> 02:13:03.239 the mid nineties was a time for this kind of 2497 02:13:03.399 --> 02:13:08.800 those chunky, line weight and slightly more like our animation 2498 02:13:08.880 --> 02:13:11.319 that looked a little bit more like alt comics, edging 2499 02:13:11.319 --> 02:13:13.920 towards that style, but still a very user friendly kind 2500 02:13:13.960 --> 02:13:15.840 of Saturday Morning style. 2501 02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:21.479 Overall, it had both Patrick and SpongeBob because Tom Kenny 2502 02:13:21.600 --> 02:13:24.159 was doing a voice as well. It was Weenie in there, 2503 02:13:24.920 --> 02:13:27.039 which I don't know if I remember the Weenie character, 2504 02:13:27.079 --> 02:13:29.000 because I did watch a few of these episodes, but 2505 02:13:29.680 --> 02:13:33.239 towards the second one, I just started fast forwarding because 2506 02:13:33.279 --> 02:13:35.960 I was like, I'm not enjoying this as much as 2507 02:13:36.000 --> 02:13:37.119 I feel like I should be. 2508 02:13:37.760 --> 02:13:39.399 I felt like I needed to see what it was 2509 02:13:39.479 --> 02:13:41.600 about because it sounded crazy. But once I got it, 2510 02:13:41.640 --> 02:13:43.479 I was like, oh, okay, I got it. You know, 2511 02:13:43.520 --> 02:13:44.960 I don't need to watch all of them. 2512 02:13:45.399 --> 02:13:49.199 Nah, No, all thirteen episodes very quick, just a one 2513 02:13:49.279 --> 02:13:53.720 season show, and then yeah, the sequel coming out twenty 2514 02:13:53.800 --> 02:13:58.840 years later, and that they are very open to. This 2515 02:13:58.920 --> 02:14:02.840 is twenty years later, and they are doing everything right 2516 02:14:03.079 --> 02:14:05.239 in my opinion. When it comes to Dumb and Dumber 2517 02:14:05.279 --> 02:14:08.720 two to really put in the future. I love that 2518 02:14:08.760 --> 02:14:12.800 they're making all these references back to free to Felcher 2519 02:14:13.159 --> 02:14:15.560 because they talk about her in Dumb and Dumber and 2520 02:14:15.880 --> 02:14:18.560 I forgot all about that until I was watching it 2521 02:14:18.600 --> 02:14:21.720 again because I actually went through and I watched this week, 2522 02:14:21.720 --> 02:14:25.319 I watched Dumb and Dumber, I watched Dumb and Dumber two, 2523 02:14:25.520 --> 02:14:27.840 and then I wrapped up with Dumb and Dummer, and 2524 02:14:27.920 --> 02:14:30.479 it was so interesting to see the way that they 2525 02:14:30.520 --> 02:14:33.880 would do the touch points back to Dumb and Dumber 2526 02:14:33.880 --> 02:14:36.600 from Dumb and Dumber two, watching them out of order 2527 02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:39.479 and just oh, okay, yeah, I forgot all about that, 2528 02:14:39.520 --> 02:14:42.000 and they talk about the French tickler and all those things. 2529 02:14:42.039 --> 02:14:44.119 I'm like, Wow, you guys are really doing a good 2530 02:14:44.239 --> 02:14:47.560 job bringing all of these things back. And then the 2531 02:14:47.720 --> 02:14:50.680 crime that's in that film I found to be pretty 2532 02:14:50.680 --> 02:14:54.279 interesting as well. And just the girl that played their 2533 02:14:55.319 --> 02:14:59.520 not daughter who seemed like their daughter, Rachel Melvin as Penny. 2534 02:15:00.439 --> 02:15:03.039 I thought she did an amazing job in this. But 2535 02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:08.399 I was really just taken by Rob Riggle, especially when 2536 02:15:08.399 --> 02:15:11.960 he plays his own twin brother and those scenes where 2537 02:15:12.000 --> 02:15:14.800 he would walk out of the background because he was 2538 02:15:15.319 --> 02:15:18.760 an expert. Apparently, it's just like Peta from The Hunger Games. 2539 02:15:18.760 --> 02:15:20.800 It can blend into any. 2540 02:15:21.920 --> 02:15:25.439 Except unlike Peta, this is intended to be ridiculously funny, 2541 02:15:26.199 --> 02:15:28.399 and Pete has apparently played as a dramatic moment and 2542 02:15:28.399 --> 02:15:30.399 it's just the instead. It's the silliest thing that's ever 2543 02:15:30.399 --> 02:15:32.479 been in a movie. Hell yes, I love the way 2544 02:15:32.520 --> 02:15:34.359 it's like he has to quickly apply this makeup and 2545 02:15:34.359 --> 02:15:37.039 then lay down amongst the rocks. It's just ridiculous. Whatever 2546 02:15:37.079 --> 02:15:39.800 you think of the movie, I found myself just enjoying 2547 02:15:39.840 --> 02:15:42.279 that they the spirit was intact, even if the gags 2548 02:15:42.279 --> 02:15:44.600 weren't always intact. For me, I thought, you know what, 2549 02:15:44.680 --> 02:15:47.279 I love that Jeff Daniels is here throwing himself back 2550 02:15:47.279 --> 02:15:49.680 into it as Harry, and I love that Jim Carrey. 2551 02:15:50.039 --> 02:15:52.079 Jim Carrey doesn't do a lot of stuff. He's maybe 2552 02:15:52.119 --> 02:15:54.600 now he does the Sonic movies, and it seems like 2553 02:15:54.640 --> 02:15:57.359 that's mainly what he does. But at the time, I 2554 02:15:57.359 --> 02:15:58.960 felt like it had been a while since I'd seen 2555 02:15:59.039 --> 02:16:01.279 Jim Carrey go for broke with this type of stuff. 2556 02:16:02.159 --> 02:16:05.119 And I love the gag. I just love the concept 2557 02:16:05.439 --> 02:16:09.199 that he's been a catatonic since the end of the 2558 02:16:09.199 --> 02:16:12.359 first movie, and then b that he's been faking it. 2559 02:16:12.640 --> 02:16:15.079 But that is such a great way to answer the 2560 02:16:15.159 --> 02:16:17.079 question of what is what have the character has been 2561 02:16:17.159 --> 02:16:19.560 up to since the last time we saw them. Literally 2562 02:16:19.600 --> 02:16:22.720 nothing in the way. This movie kind of wipes away 2563 02:16:22.720 --> 02:16:24.479 the can And I mean, it's an interesting thing to 2564 02:16:24.520 --> 02:16:27.199 say that one of these movies is not canonical, but 2565 02:16:27.399 --> 02:16:29.560 I believe the events of Dumb and Dumber two make 2566 02:16:29.600 --> 02:16:32.319 Dumb and Dumber a non canonical just because of the 2567 02:16:32.399 --> 02:16:35.120 parents and certain things about the background of the characters. 2568 02:16:35.559 --> 02:16:37.559 So now we have a multiverse. We don't just have 2569 02:16:37.639 --> 02:16:39.479 a saga. We have a multiverse of. 2570 02:16:41.799 --> 02:16:44.399 And I thought it was great that Kathleen Turner was 2571 02:16:44.440 --> 02:16:47.079 able to play into her comedy chuffs because she has 2572 02:16:47.159 --> 02:16:50.479 those and it rarely gets to use them. And she 2573 02:16:50.639 --> 02:16:53.399 was great in here as Fraida, and I love that 2574 02:16:53.399 --> 02:16:56.360 they're not afraid or she's not afraid to take some 2575 02:16:56.399 --> 02:16:59.559 of these insults that they're throwing around, and that she's 2576 02:16:59.600 --> 02:17:04.879 a leet slut. The end with her doctor Pinchela was fantastic. 2577 02:17:05.440 --> 02:17:08.159 But yeah, and just when she's talking about, oh yeah, 2578 02:17:08.200 --> 02:17:10.239 you're not the father, and nor are you the father? 2579 02:17:10.319 --> 02:17:12.959 That was my place? What was it like I took 2580 02:17:13.000 --> 02:17:14.479 on the whole basketball team. 2581 02:17:14.559 --> 02:17:17.760 I'm there, there's no telling. And also when you find 2582 02:17:17.760 --> 02:17:20.040 out that not only has she been with all these 2583 02:17:20.040 --> 02:17:22.399 other guys, but she wasn't ever with them, and they 2584 02:17:22.440 --> 02:17:24.639 didn't know that, they didn't have sex with her. They 2585 02:17:24.680 --> 02:17:28.000 both had no understanding of sex. It's so ridiculous. 2586 02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:31.760 But the reaction of both of them when she finally 2587 02:17:31.840 --> 02:17:34.440 tells them what sex says. 2588 02:17:34.280 --> 02:17:38.159 No, worry, that's just not my mom. 2589 02:17:38.440 --> 02:17:43.000 But we're pea like him and I cannot learn it. 2590 02:17:43.600 --> 02:17:44.360 You're bad. 2591 02:17:44.840 --> 02:17:45.719 Can you show us? 2592 02:17:45.959 --> 02:17:46.639 I call sloppy. 2593 02:17:46.680 --> 02:17:50.959 Seconds then the one flashback to him being with her, 2594 02:17:51.399 --> 02:17:53.040 he says, I need to put on protection, and then 2595 02:17:53.040 --> 02:17:55.520 he puts on the bike helmet and then he like 2596 02:17:55.840 --> 02:17:58.040 comes at her with his mouth wide open and does 2597 02:17:58.120 --> 02:18:01.079 this to her shoulder. So it's like they play into 2598 02:18:01.120 --> 02:18:03.200 that idea that these guys don't know what's going on, 2599 02:18:03.239 --> 02:18:05.079 but you don't know, you really don't know, Like how 2600 02:18:05.159 --> 02:18:07.360 much do they really not know? Like you could have 2601 02:18:07.399 --> 02:18:09.920 another version of this where they are regularly with women 2602 02:18:10.000 --> 02:18:12.040 but they just can't keep a girlfriend or something, But no, 2603 02:18:12.159 --> 02:18:15.079 these guys are complete cartoon characters in the world that's 2604 02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:16.200 slightly more real than them. 2605 02:18:16.959 --> 02:18:19.719 I almost wish that they had gotten Derek Richardson and 2606 02:18:19.840 --> 02:18:22.920 Eric Christian Olsen to be the younger versions of them 2607 02:18:22.959 --> 02:18:26.360 in this movie. That would have been nice. But yeah, 2608 02:18:26.399 --> 02:18:29.840 you're right, it's multiverse now, and they can even dip 2609 02:18:29.840 --> 02:18:31.719 into cartoon World two. 2610 02:18:31.879 --> 02:18:35.319 That's three hole multiverses. We need a crisis on infinite 2611 02:18:35.600 --> 02:18:36.319 and dumbers now. 2612 02:18:37.479 --> 02:18:40.120 Somewhere in Rhode Island there's a hell mouth that has 2613 02:18:40.159 --> 02:18:40.719 opened up. 2614 02:18:41.559 --> 02:18:43.440 I think there are several I've been to Rhode Island 2615 02:18:43.440 --> 02:18:44.079 and I'm just kidding. 2616 02:18:45.680 --> 02:18:49.239 There's not a whole lot of room for multiple strip 2617 02:18:49.280 --> 02:18:52.360 in there. Nice having a little cameo from Bill Murray 2618 02:18:52.360 --> 02:18:55.959 and here is a nice pick. I thought that was, yes, 2619 02:18:56.280 --> 02:18:59.280 the best day of my life. And then they have 2620 02:18:59.479 --> 02:19:02.159 PD as well. I thought was wonderful. And that they 2621 02:19:02.200 --> 02:19:05.479 had to track down that actor via Facebook because they 2622 02:19:05.639 --> 02:19:09.079 couldn't find contact information for him. And then I guess 2623 02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:12.760 he had to audition regardless, just because of the rules 2624 02:19:12.799 --> 02:19:16.120 of the way that the movie was made, and it's yeah, 2625 02:19:16.200 --> 02:19:19.239 you got the role, but they still made him audition. 2626 02:19:20.200 --> 02:19:22.879 That was nice to have him show back up. And 2627 02:19:22.920 --> 02:19:26.799 then especially now that he's got all those beautiful birds 2628 02:19:27.079 --> 02:19:30.719 and you're talking about, oh, the characters are too mean. 2629 02:19:31.600 --> 02:19:34.559 When they do set brob Riggla on fire and they 2630 02:19:34.639 --> 02:19:37.920 do that pointing and laughing, the literal pointing and laughing. 2631 02:19:37.920 --> 02:19:39.879 I'm like, that's the exact same thing that they did 2632 02:19:39.920 --> 02:19:43.040 to Mental in the first movie after they just murdered 2633 02:19:43.120 --> 02:19:46.040 him with the hot peppers. They don't know that they 2634 02:19:46.040 --> 02:19:49.440 are murdering him, and it's before they give him the cyanide, 2635 02:19:50.280 --> 02:19:53.239 but they do that same point and laugh kind of thing. 2636 02:19:53.280 --> 02:19:56.680 And yeah, just the intensity around the pranks that they're 2637 02:19:56.680 --> 02:19:59.840 pulling on each other. And I'm not going to give 2638 02:19:59.840 --> 02:20:01.760 a way the final twist of the movie, but that 2639 02:20:01.920 --> 02:20:04.639 actually really got me the first time I watched it, 2640 02:20:04.680 --> 02:20:06.799 and I thought that was wonderful that they did. 2641 02:20:07.559 --> 02:20:09.719 If we're gonna leave that ending slightly unspoiled, then I 2642 02:20:09.760 --> 02:20:11.280 will not say what I would say that was spoil it, 2643 02:20:11.319 --> 02:20:13.879 but I can expect to something I said earlier about 2644 02:20:13.920 --> 02:20:16.399 an injury that Harry has. I just think that moment 2645 02:20:16.879 --> 02:20:19.760 is funnier because it's being played while Harry has a 2646 02:20:19.799 --> 02:20:21.079 bullet hole through him. 2647 02:20:21.440 --> 02:20:25.200 Yeah, and I think that Lloyd's injury is wonderful as well, 2648 02:20:26.159 --> 02:20:28.920 and the way that Carrie plays that is terrific and 2649 02:20:29.639 --> 02:20:34.799 just the repetition of the dialogue. Yeah, but not as Yeah, 2650 02:20:34.840 --> 02:20:37.319 I find a lot of laughs in Dumb and Dumber two. 2651 02:20:37.760 --> 02:20:41.680 It's not a classic, it's it's better than a lot 2652 02:20:41.719 --> 02:20:44.360 of legacy sequels I see, though I have to say 2653 02:20:44.719 --> 02:20:46.920 it definitely feels like they thought about this one a 2654 02:20:46.959 --> 02:20:49.760 lot more than they did something like Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. 2655 02:20:50.559 --> 02:20:53.520 The question of do comedy sequels ever fully work, and 2656 02:20:53.600 --> 02:20:56.120 I think that when they have the best success, it's 2657 02:20:56.159 --> 02:20:59.319 when they just again not to sound like I'm beating 2658 02:20:59.319 --> 02:21:01.079 a dead horse, but when and just try to be funny. 2659 02:21:01.079 --> 02:21:03.840 And I think the fact that this movie has literally 2660 02:21:03.879 --> 02:21:06.719 nothing on its mind other than that, I think that 2661 02:21:06.920 --> 02:21:11.239 is that's there's a certain kind of grace that it 2662 02:21:11.280 --> 02:21:14.559 achieves just by virtue of being like, Okay, gag to gag. 2663 02:21:14.600 --> 02:21:16.200 Maybe you didn't like that last one, but you might 2664 02:21:16.239 --> 02:21:18.840 really like the next one, and it doesn't move quite 2665 02:21:18.840 --> 02:21:21.559 as efficiently. It maybe could be a little bit tighter, 2666 02:21:21.600 --> 02:21:23.799 and maybe that would make it seem funnier. But I 2667 02:21:23.840 --> 02:21:26.639 think there's something about just I'm a sucker for when 2668 02:21:26.639 --> 02:21:28.760 it feels like, oh, these people had fun getting back 2669 02:21:28.799 --> 02:21:31.399 together to make this movie. So I think that's what 2670 02:21:31.440 --> 02:21:33.200 I feel when I watched that one, is just that 2671 02:21:33.280 --> 02:21:35.440 Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels seem to be having such 2672 02:21:35.479 --> 02:21:37.399 a blast, and that's infectious to me. 2673 02:21:38.520 --> 02:21:42.440 Were you aware of the controversy around the making of 2674 02:21:42.719 --> 02:21:46.440 A Dumb and Dumber two? On June fifteen, twenty seventeen, 2675 02:21:46.479 --> 02:21:49.559 the United States Department of Justice charge that money used 2676 02:21:49.600 --> 02:21:53.000 to produce the film was stolen from a Malaysian government 2677 02:21:53.200 --> 02:21:54.120 investment fund. 2678 02:21:55.079 --> 02:21:56.200 You know, I did not know this. 2679 02:21:56.799 --> 02:22:01.399 Yes, According to Wikipedia, the source of all knowledge, Red 2680 02:22:01.399 --> 02:22:07.959 Granite Pictures denied knowingly accepting stolen money. Prosecutors also filed 2681 02:22:08.399 --> 02:22:11.799 a forfeiture complaint in federal court to seize the rights 2682 02:22:11.840 --> 02:22:14.920 of ownerships to Dumb and Dumber two, as well as 2683 02:22:14.920 --> 02:22:18.280 the rights to the twenty to fifteen film Daddy's Home. 2684 02:22:18.719 --> 02:22:21.719 So didn't they also do with Wolf of Wall Street? 2685 02:22:22.079 --> 02:22:23.520 Wasn't that alsopart of it? 2686 02:22:23.639 --> 02:22:26.719 They went half, is there an agenda being pushed by 2687 02:22:26.719 --> 02:22:27.200 this movie? 2688 02:22:27.239 --> 02:22:27.360 Is that? 2689 02:22:29.479 --> 02:22:32.719 I don't know there's anything political about the actual sun. 2690 02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:37.120 Yeah, now, other than all the clean energy that they have. 2691 02:22:37.840 --> 02:22:42.200 The thing where they've got Harry judging all of those 2692 02:22:42.239 --> 02:22:46.959 young geniuses with their projects, and it's so reminded me 2693 02:22:47.079 --> 02:22:52.239 of like Martin from The Simpsons, Behold the power plant 2694 02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:54.639 of the future Today. 2695 02:22:56.040 --> 02:23:00.360 To cold and sterrile whiz the hot but. 2696 02:23:00.399 --> 02:23:02.120 It really generates power. 2697 02:23:02.360 --> 02:23:08.120 It's letting this room right now, you lose, get off 2698 02:23:08.159 --> 02:23:11.639 mud pupperty. I thought that was eerily reminiscent of what's 2699 02:23:11.639 --> 02:23:14.959 happening in the research community and in DC right now, 2700 02:23:15.079 --> 02:23:17.799 these people presenting like the cure for cancer and this 2701 02:23:17.920 --> 02:23:21.639 complete idiot city there going no yeah, but what's in 2702 02:23:21.680 --> 02:23:24.719 it for me? And he's loving that. The crowds with him, 2703 02:23:24.760 --> 02:23:27.799 they're laughing at him, and Harry's so stupid, He's I 2704 02:23:27.799 --> 02:23:30.079 don't know, it's so funny to see him. He gets 2705 02:23:30.079 --> 02:23:31.959 a little full of himself in that moment. I think 2706 02:23:32.000 --> 02:23:34.000 that's it. Yeah, Jeff Daniels is good in that scene. 2707 02:23:34.079 --> 02:23:36.079 I'll just say that one of the best lines in 2708 02:23:36.159 --> 02:23:38.239 Dumb and Dumber two was one that really stuck with me, 2709 02:23:38.319 --> 02:23:41.520 is when he says, so this is what rock Bottom 2710 02:23:41.600 --> 02:23:43.840 feels like. It's not that bad. 2711 02:23:44.319 --> 02:23:46.079 All right, We're going to take another break and play 2712 02:23:46.120 --> 02:23:48.959 a preview for next week's show right after these brief 2713 02:23:48.959 --> 02:23:50.639 messages down. 2714 02:23:50.680 --> 02:23:52.000 That's street. 2715 02:23:53.360 --> 02:23:55.159 In Manhattan. 2716 02:24:00.079 --> 02:24:04.520 That has no window pane, and that. 2717 02:24:06.360 --> 02:24:12.719 That bad little way, God. 2718 02:24:12.440 --> 02:24:13.719 It's bad. 2719 02:24:15.520 --> 02:24:16.000 To night. 2720 02:24:36.239 --> 02:24:38.479 Damn that street. 2721 02:24:40.159 --> 02:24:45.479 In Manhattan, and that house. 2722 02:24:46.879 --> 02:24:49.520 That has no window paye. 2723 02:24:51.000 --> 02:24:54.520 And that love that bad. 2724 02:24:55.360 --> 02:24:59.520 Lot away God, it's Spad. 2725 02:25:10.559 --> 02:25:13.520 That's right. We'll be back next week with something very different, 2726 02:25:13.639 --> 02:25:17.760 Jean Pierre Melville's Two men in Manhattan, two very different 2727 02:25:17.840 --> 02:25:19.920 men from Harry and Lloyd. Until then, I want to 2728 02:25:19.959 --> 02:25:23.319 thank my co host John and Ryan, two very different 2729 02:25:23.399 --> 02:25:25.799 men from Harry and Lloyd. So, John, what is the 2730 02:25:25.920 --> 02:25:26.879 latest in your world? 2731 02:25:28.440 --> 02:25:30.159 I'll just go ahead and throw my blue sky out there. 2732 02:25:30.200 --> 02:25:32.399 That seems like the smart thing to do nowadays. I'm 2733 02:25:32.559 --> 02:25:36.000 johnnyw dot bsky dot social, So that's g I A 2734 02:25:36.399 --> 02:25:38.920 N N I d U b y A. And from there, 2735 02:25:39.000 --> 02:25:40.959 if you look at my bio you can link out 2736 02:25:41.000 --> 02:25:43.600 to my music and other podcasts I do. But I 2737 02:25:43.680 --> 02:25:46.600 will say I have a podcast that has been working 2738 02:25:46.639 --> 02:25:48.719 in little batches, in another batch. At the time this 2739 02:25:48.799 --> 02:25:51.040 episode comes out should be in full swing, and that 2740 02:25:51.200 --> 02:25:53.440 is my Coen Brothers podcast, co Intel Pro. 2741 02:25:54.000 --> 02:25:56.360 That's co O E N T E L p r O. 2742 02:25:56.879 --> 02:25:59.479 Mike was kind enough to be on the first episode 2743 02:25:59.479 --> 02:26:01.920 where we talk about Blood Simple and Crime Wave and 2744 02:26:02.280 --> 02:26:04.959 those continue to roll out with fun guests and if 2745 02:26:05.000 --> 02:26:06.799 you know the movies of the Coen Brothers, there's lots 2746 02:26:06.799 --> 02:26:08.920 of fun stuff to talk about there, so that's happening. 2747 02:26:08.959 --> 02:26:11.319 And then just about every week, Movie Movie is a 2748 02:26:11.360 --> 02:26:14.479 podcast I've been on for thirteen years now and we 2749 02:26:14.639 --> 02:26:18.000 pretty much talk about whatever we've been watching recently, so 2750 02:26:18.280 --> 02:26:20.200 a lot of recent stuff, but we also usually try 2751 02:26:20.239 --> 02:26:22.719 to pick a classic or a not so recent film 2752 02:26:22.799 --> 02:26:25.479 to talk about each week as well. So that's Moviemovie 2753 02:26:25.959 --> 02:26:27.319 and yeah, that's where you can find me. 2754 02:26:28.120 --> 02:26:31.079 And I say your name at least twice a month 2755 02:26:31.159 --> 02:26:33.200 on the air because I always thank you for the 2756 02:26:33.319 --> 02:26:36.239 theme song for The Shabby Detective and the Life and 2757 02:26:36.319 --> 02:26:39.520 Times of Captain Barney Miller podcast. So John is a 2758 02:26:39.760 --> 02:26:43.440 very wonderful and talented musician who has definitely done right 2759 02:26:43.520 --> 02:26:43.760 by me. 2760 02:26:44.159 --> 02:26:45.120 Thanks for the kind words. 2761 02:26:46.120 --> 02:26:47.639 And Ryan, what is happening with you? 2762 02:26:47.760 --> 02:26:51.600 Sir? I am the co host and producer of two 2763 02:26:51.680 --> 02:26:55.639 different podcasts. The first is called One Track Mind, which 2764 02:26:55.719 --> 02:26:58.479 is the only commentary podcast that matters because it's the 2765 02:26:58.559 --> 02:27:01.840 only one that exists where every week or every other 2766 02:27:01.879 --> 02:27:05.239 week a guest and myself will cover the audio commentary 2767 02:27:05.319 --> 02:27:08.120 of a movie and see how it relates to the film. 2768 02:27:08.200 --> 02:27:11.079 Mike has been on twice and by the way, I 2769 02:27:11.200 --> 02:27:14.159 listen to your Demolition Man commentary on the Aero video 2770 02:27:14.559 --> 02:27:15.840 four k outstanding. 2771 02:27:16.440 --> 02:27:19.200 Oh thank you. I was hoping you could completely skewer 2772 02:27:19.319 --> 02:27:19.760 it for me. 2773 02:27:20.920 --> 02:27:22.399 I can't skewer something that was good. 2774 02:27:23.239 --> 02:27:26.479 You can find those first off Blue Sky one track 2775 02:27:26.639 --> 02:27:30.799 Mind atbsky dot, social Instagram at one that is the 2776 02:27:31.000 --> 02:27:34.719 Numeral one Track Mind podcast. I'm on Facebook, on Podchaser, 2777 02:27:35.479 --> 02:27:38.200 and i just had an essay in issue sixteen of 2778 02:27:38.239 --> 02:27:42.000 The Physical Media Advocate where I talked about the five 2779 02:27:42.120 --> 02:27:46.079 commentaries that Roger Ebert has done since I shouldn't say 2780 02:27:46.120 --> 02:27:49.760 has done considering that he's dead, but did past tense 2781 02:27:50.559 --> 02:27:52.920 and then I also have a different podcast which is 2782 02:27:53.000 --> 02:27:55.600 a fake movie court called Reels of Justice, where we 2783 02:27:55.680 --> 02:27:58.040 have a prosecutor, a defender, a judge, and a jury. 2784 02:27:58.559 --> 02:28:00.520 We try to conclude whether or not a movie is 2785 02:28:00.600 --> 02:28:03.120 guilty of being a bad movie. You can find that 2786 02:28:03.280 --> 02:28:06.000 anywhere on social media at Reels of Justice. 2787 02:28:06.920 --> 02:28:08.920 Well, thank you so much guys for being on the show. 2788 02:28:09.040 --> 02:28:11.000 Thanks to everybody for listening. If you want to hear 2789 02:28:11.040 --> 02:28:12.920 more of me shooting off my mouth, check out some 2790 02:28:13.040 --> 02:28:14.760 of the other shows that I work on. They are 2791 02:28:14.799 --> 02:28:18.360 all available at Weirdingwaymedia. Dot com. Thanks especially to our 2792 02:28:18.399 --> 02:28:20.920 Patreon community. If you want to join the community, visit 2793 02:28:21.000 --> 02:28:24.479 patreon dot com. Slash projection booth. 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