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<v Speaker 1>I made a decision pay this sunny SUNet on.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a visions night. What's up everybody, It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>Y got some stuff to talk about? Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>ah yeah. I gotta say, like, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>come home from a trip and you're really tired and

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<v Speaker 2>all you want to do is just get in your bed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got into bed after the trip and I

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<v Speaker 2>put on Netflix and there it is Toxic Love Story

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh am, I gonna watch that shit out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I watched some of it and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty minutes into it, and I was gonna text

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<v Speaker 2>you to watch it, and you texted me you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>watch it, and I was like, I'm already watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like twenty five minutes in. That's so funny, crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>That movie is such a rollercoaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix has got some great docs now, they really do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've heard people.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard some people complaining about it because they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm this far into it and I don't really like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it or whatever, and it's like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because it just keeps twisting. There's so many twists, so

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<v Speaker 3>many twists. At first, when I started watching it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>This, Yeah, spoiler alerts, we're going to spoil it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so I guess fast forward if you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen it, but we gave.

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<v Speaker 2>You the warning on Tuesday to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>But also here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We're yes, spoiler alert, but also it's a case that's

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<v Speaker 3>been in the news. Ye, so like a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that you can still go into it knowing the

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<v Speaker 3>story and it's still going to be like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh, yeah, you got to watch it. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>doing any justice, do it. You got to watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>But remember that, remember that it was also a Netflix

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<v Speaker 3>or a Hulu documentary and it had been a dateline

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<v Speaker 3>story about this is different about it was a guy

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<v Speaker 3>who was you know what exactly what I talk about

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<v Speaker 3>because I thought, for a minute, I thought this was

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<v Speaker 3>the same story.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, wait, but they weren't married.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a guy who dated this girl and then

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<v Speaker 3>they broke up, and then he started dating this other girl, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the second girl, well, the spoiler is that

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<v Speaker 3>she started pretending to be the ex girlfriend. So he

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<v Speaker 3>the guy breaks up the house girl because they're both like,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like a single dad and he's like not ready

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<v Speaker 3>for a relationship, and the other the girl's like okay, cool, cool, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but she that girl was bipolar, right, but she still

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<v Speaker 3>was like okay, right, and then fine. Then the second girl,

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<v Speaker 3>who you don't know is totally crazy, is dating the guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and she starts pretending that there's threats against her life

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<v Speaker 3>and that it's the ex girlfriend who's super jealous, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the ex girlfriend disappears. Yeah, because the second

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<v Speaker 3>girlfriend freaking murdered her.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. It's a great I non't know the name of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's really good of why or something. It was

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<v Speaker 2>on Netflix and it was a dateline or so. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like is this no? Because I kept seeing

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<v Speaker 2>on Netflix coming July whatever, right, new documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was just like, is this a story that's

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<v Speaker 3>already been covered? There's already been a different documentary, like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it was HBO. But then as it got into it,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, because those people weren't married and

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<v Speaker 3>this person's married.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I never heard this story before. And it happened in

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego or where Iana close enough, right by Disneyland, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>close to us, So we were I'm like okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They even talked about like I feel like they said

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<v Speaker 3>like the four or five something where I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay and not that long.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm going to be down there, like that's close

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<v Speaker 3>to the front of Chapman.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you guys need anybody to do any more

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<v Speaker 3>research or anything, I could stop off and then help

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<v Speaker 3>the feds get a little Nope, butk you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, interview some peeps, right Redeed hit the pavement.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Gumshoe.

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<v Speaker 3>I pitched a show many years ago when I was

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<v Speaker 3>like pitching TV shows about like kid detectives, and we

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<v Speaker 3>called it gum Shoes and the picture was like a

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<v Speaker 3>shoe stepping up and there was like gum under it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And a couple of the people that we pitched it

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<v Speaker 3>to were like, nobody knows that, saying, oh, come on,

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I was like, gumshoe, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>So dumb? I know?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this story is fucking nuts. It twists and

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<v Speaker 2>turned just when you think you're like, okay, I knows,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>The crazy one is like so you said.

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<v Speaker 3>It up because okay, So there's this girl there's a

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<v Speaker 3>guy and he dated this girl and now he and

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't married. They were just like boyfriend and girlfriend

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. Then he gets a new girlfriend. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>call her Scamanda. Right, he gets a new girlfriend. I

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<v Speaker 3>think her name is Angie. Yeah, yeah, Angie. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>he's dating Angie and everything's fine, and they fall in

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<v Speaker 3>love really fast, and they get married and she gets pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, no, he has this first before Angie

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<v Speaker 2>has a girl. Well, it starts well, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a pulp fiction because it kind of starts out

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<v Speaker 2>that way. But then it goes back in time and

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<v Speaker 2>you find out he had a girlfriend he bought the

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<v Speaker 2>condo with, and then they broke up.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and that's not a girlfriend. Yeah, they were together

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. They weren't married, but they bought a

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<v Speaker 3>condo together, and then they were engaged, yes, and then

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<v Speaker 3>they broke up right then you don't really know why.

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<v Speaker 3>But now he has a new girlfriend and they fall

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<v Speaker 3>in love really fast and she moves in, yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>then she's pregnant. They're married, right, and there aren't like

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<v Speaker 3>like she there's not a lot of red flags, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But we find out later that her that we find

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<v Speaker 3>out after the fact. Okay, So here's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's honest.

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<v Speaker 3>They start getting she starts getting new Angie starts getting

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<v Speaker 3>these threatening emails that are really weird and stalker ish

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<v Speaker 3>that are.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, is watching you. Yeah, you the devil, You're the

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<v Speaker 1>you're of the devil, and you know you're a horrible person.

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<v Speaker 1>At your back, Yeah, watch your back. I'm gonna kill you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're and your baby and burn child. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>really crazy. So she goes to the police. They're like,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't really do anything because she hasn't actually like

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<v Speaker 3>threatened you, and we don't know where it's coming from whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and so now so the police come over to the Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So then it escalates.

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<v Speaker 3>And that they whoever this is it's doing it is

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<v Speaker 3>starting to set up like her getting attacked by a rapists, right,

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<v Speaker 3>goes on some goes and looks on Craigslist and gets

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who like is into that kind of thing, like

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<v Speaker 3>a rape fantasy, and then they're like okay, And then

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<v Speaker 3>somebody does come over who's like okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Grabs her by the back of her head, pushes her

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<v Speaker 2>against the wall. She calls the police. The police came yes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So then they finally take into custody the ex girlfriend, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and they when you're watching this, you're like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>suspecting that the new girlfriend is doing it herself or something, suspecting.

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<v Speaker 2>Her from the very beginning for some reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, same, which you're supposed to right. But then so,

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<v Speaker 3>but then they interview the ex girlfriend. I'm watching this

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<v Speaker 3>with John, and the ex girlfriend is like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>did it, right those emails, she said, yeah, I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>the emails.

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<v Speaker 1>And the ex girlfriend looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, crazy, her eyes blinking. They see that's what Netflix gets.

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<v Speaker 2>You zoom in and her eyes are blinking a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>good John, Netflix. She looks like she's goads. Maybe she

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<v Speaker 2>had a mental break, because she admitted that she did

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<v Speaker 2>send two of those emails, and.

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<v Speaker 3>She doesn't specify her to any She's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>send emails in her eyes are darting all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>They're pushed out like big bug eyed, like yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>cotten a dear. Yeah right, So that's all you know

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<v Speaker 3>at that point. So you're like, oh, I guess that

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<v Speaker 3>bitch is crazy graze and was sending all these threatening emails.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, but why do. I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 1>weird about that.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's the new girlfriend who's getting the threats is

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<v Speaker 3>very intense about it. So when the police come over,

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<v Speaker 3>she's like up in their face and pointing her finger

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<v Speaker 3>and like that bitch is crazy. You should go arrest her,

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<v Speaker 3>like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, okay with her husband in the living room too, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, go get her.

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<v Speaker 3>She's crazy. Yes, and she did this to me and

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<v Speaker 3>she did that to me and okay. So then you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well this is wrapping up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was like. Then.

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<v Speaker 2>I right when you text me, I paused it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, wait a second, there's another half

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<v Speaker 2>hour to this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're like some who done it? Yeah, Like okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what are we wiposed?

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<v Speaker 1>I've done my job here, right, I took I took

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<v Speaker 1>some statements. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and then she goes to jail, she admits it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she's in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's in jail. So then they go back in

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<v Speaker 1>time a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we find out that Angie meets this other

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<v Speaker 3>and even fucked up past meets this other guy. Her

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<v Speaker 3>ex boyfriend was this like, uh guy who worked for

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<v Speaker 3>like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Police, department.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, and she says, oh, so did I I work?

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<v Speaker 3>So they have all this stuff to come in and

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<v Speaker 3>they fall in love right away, and then she gets pregnant. No,

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<v Speaker 3>she got sick with cancer. Oh right, right, right right?

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<v Speaker 3>A different scams? Not there, get a different scam. Too

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<v Speaker 3>many scams and one Netflix dock. So then she gets

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<v Speaker 3>cancer and then the boyfriend is like, oh no, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna support you. I'm so madly in love with you.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she's like, uh, He's like, let me go

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<v Speaker 3>with you to your chemo, you know, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh no, I won't hear of it, Like I you

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<v Speaker 3>are such a busy man, you are so important. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got really important things to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I got this. You need to come to my no

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<v Speaker 2>terminally ill chemo.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. I'm gonna be totally fine. Right. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>then she's wearing a wig, she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Wearing a ski cap, she wears a yes, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they interview one of her boyfriend's girlfriends, like a friend

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<v Speaker 2>the girl, and she's like yes, and she's like being

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<v Speaker 3>This woman, though, let's let's interject, Yeah, that one's kind

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you're talking about the woman they interviewed since the

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, she immediately, which you would hope on any

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<v Speaker 3>of these shows like Scamanda you need that friend that's

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<v Speaker 1>Cancer? Right? I loved her because.

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<v Speaker 2>She called her out immediately immediately, and then they have

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, you don't have cancer. It's like, yes I do.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, no, you don't, bitch, show us the

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<v Speaker 2>The port, yes, and she's like a, yeah, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>see it right now, it's basy. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>It's on vacation, right, it's closed for vandigram.

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<v Speaker 2>Shackline.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god. So she's like, no, I can't, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>And what you would hope for with all of these

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<v Speaker 3>Then she moves on and she meets the guy. Then

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<v Speaker 2>Right, she's the one that married the guy said she

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<v Speaker 3>So now we're watching it and you're like, well, is

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<v Speaker 3>she pregnant? She all faked cancer?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? And also I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>I could be making this up in my head, but

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<v Speaker 3>for the baby. Yeah, same kind of playbooks she did

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<v Speaker 3>with the answer right. So then but he doesn't really

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<v Speaker 3>suspect as far as we know, she's not pregnant. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>But she's like, oh my god, I'm pregnant, and and

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<v Speaker 3>I have some.

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<v Speaker 1>Questions for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, which you probably probably have a question for you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So then it's still like now we're like three quarters

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<v Speaker 3>of the way through and we're like okay, so oh

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<v Speaker 3>so then he figures out that she's not really pregnant,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, get out of here, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Now ex girlfriend's in jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he's this guy is like this poor guy, like

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<v Speaker 3>he had a crazy ex who is sending stocking emails

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<v Speaker 3>and now the girl current girlfriend is like, was faking

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<v Speaker 3>a pregnancy. You're like, this guy can't catch a break

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<v Speaker 3>by right now, poor thing.

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<v Speaker 2>US Marshall guy, Yeah, US Marshall guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it wasn't. That was oh yeah, he's a US

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<v Speaker 1>marginal day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so now you're like, fuck, there's still like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So okay, he breaks up with her because she's

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<v Speaker 2>not really pregnant, and he did go to the police, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and then he goes and reports her.

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<v Speaker 2>He reports her, but does he figure out that she

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<v Speaker 2>was actually the one now doing those emails and the

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<v Speaker 2>girl in jail's innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened there?

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<v Speaker 3>Not so fast because then we find out. Then we

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<v Speaker 3>find out they go back into his past, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you find out that he's the fucked up one.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Two fucked up people found each other, just like how

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<v Speaker 3>we have all these episodes where we're like, how does

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<v Speaker 3>two guys find each other and go like, let's be

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<v Speaker 3>serial killers together?

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't one of them go wait a minute, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the Hillside strangler. Yeah, his brother and his cousin. Yeah, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>how about we go out and kill women, throw them on.

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<v Speaker 1>The side of the freeway. Right, great idea, Yeah I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to do that. I just wanted needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be asked.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Wednesday or Thursday?

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<v Speaker 1>How do these two people find each other?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>So these two fucking crazy people. So this guy you

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<v Speaker 3>find out, So now they go back again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, Now the FEDS are looking into it because

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<v Speaker 2>there's this one great fed yes who you're like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, finally, finally a reliable narrator.

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<v Speaker 3>Right when guy's like okay, everybody calm, he's like, calm

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck down.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was he had to look into it because

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was a US marshal, yes, and so he

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<v Speaker 2>had they had to do more investigating. And then then

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<v Speaker 2>he got like his his his uh, I guess he

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<v Speaker 2>got his electronics and he downloaded like all these audio

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<v Speaker 2>files and he figured out that this guy was the one.

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<v Speaker 2>So the girl his wife. She went to jail to

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<v Speaker 2>the wife right, yes, because he said the wife was

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<v Speaker 2>actually doing it. Yes, And the girlfriend's innocent. That's in

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<v Speaker 2>the jail, she's innocent.

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<v Speaker 3>So we find out that what had happened. What happened

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<v Speaker 3>was the ex girlfriend had written she was totally crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's because we find out that this guy was

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<v Speaker 3>insanely abusive and manipulative and was controlling everything about her,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't let her go anywhere, wouldn't let her do anything,

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<v Speaker 3>and he drove her so crazy, and she kept trying

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<v Speaker 3>was abusing her. She finally gets away from him, He

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<v Speaker 3>steals she had put all the money down for the condo,

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<v Speaker 3>kicks her out, and he doesn't pay her for any

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<v Speaker 3>of the condo. She can't and then it just made

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<v Speaker 3>her so crazy that she sort of lost reality and

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<v Speaker 3>she found herself like doing them and Anne hash wandering

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<v Speaker 3>around the desert waiting for like a UFO to come

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<v Speaker 3>get her. Some good Samaritan find literally finds her like

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<v Speaker 3>by the side of the road and takes her takes

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<v Speaker 3>her to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So she had sent a couple of emails that were

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<v Speaker 3>kind of crazy, but none of the So then this

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<v Speaker 3>guy is like, oh, here's my opening. I'm gonna send

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<v Speaker 3>more of these emails, but they're gonna be way worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And frame her and frame me because because he hated

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<v Speaker 2>her so much as a clean controller, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of sweet and innocent that these types of

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<v Speaker 2>guys prey on. She was very sweet, like she thought

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<v Speaker 2>everything was a Disney princess movie. She was very innocent,

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<v Speaker 2>and this guy was like hey, you know, he was

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<v Speaker 2>great to her, but then one night he'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>how about like I have a guy come over and

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<v Speaker 2>And then she's like, okay, mail, I'll do it once.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then I held that like oh okay, like

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<v Speaker 1>it'll get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Scratch that itch, like because.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like he would not he was relentless, like He

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<v Speaker 3>guess if I want this guy to marry me, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to do this thing. And then she's like if

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<v Speaker 3>I do it once, will you leave me alone? And

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<v Speaker 3>he's like yeah, absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was the victim and all. I mean really,

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<v Speaker 2>and she spent like four months in jail, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Emails that she sent were nothing real threatening now all,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were like you're the Demon's gonna get you

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<v Speaker 3>for this or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they were crazy, but they weren't any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But how does she like, how come she didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>like those other emails are not mine? Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she just was like, yeah, I sent them, and they're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if they didn't tell her they might not.

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<v Speaker 3>And they just said, here's these emails and we found

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<v Speaker 3>that you wrote them, and she's like, okay, yeah I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote them, and they're like welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, right, So she didn't know about the other emails that.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the other thing I don't get. He's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ematl's crazy number two wife who's also crazy and fakes

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<v Speaker 2>everything' scamanda and then kicks her out and then she

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<v Speaker 2>then she.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>She's already she was already in jail, is what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>They figured out, right the emails were coming from like

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<v Speaker 3>her computer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I think, right? Which what he was doing that

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing it, He was doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just because she was in on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was in on it. So why did she

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<v Speaker 2>throw him under the bus and go, hey, he was

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<v Speaker 2>in on this? Like, she didn't say anything, She just

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<v Speaker 1>That's what my question was that I don't get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get that We're gonna have to go on

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But then so then they're like the one office, this

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<v Speaker 3>one guy that we're talking about, who was the reliable

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<v Speaker 3>narrator is like, so then I started to get a

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<v Speaker 3>bad feeling about this guy, right, And then you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh shit, what y And then they started doing a

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<v Speaker 3>deep dive on this guy and he's a horrible piece

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<v Speaker 3>of shit, and then you find out about all the abuse,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you find out that he was the one

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<v Speaker 3>sending the emails right or definitely in on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, They were doing it together. Yes, crazy. Maybe is

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<v Speaker 1>it possible.

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<v Speaker 3>That she did that that just wasn't in the documentary

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<v Speaker 3>that she Maybe it was just like he did it

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<v Speaker 3>too and they're like shut.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, ye, or maybe they didn't have enough evidence. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that well, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was the impetus for them doing such a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because once the Feds got involved, that's how they

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<v Speaker 2>figured it out, you know. So yeah, the guy, the

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<v Speaker 2>reliable narrator was like, all right, everybody, let me, let

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<v Speaker 2>me explain you what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and then.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Wow, and then he went to jail. Later, Yeah, for

430
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<v Speaker 3>a long time. I think he is he still in jail.

431
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<v Speaker 3>He might still be in jail.

432
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<v Speaker 2>He went to jail for like twenty years, I think.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Although they didn't kill anybody.

434
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<v Speaker 2>No, no, they just it was cyberstocking also like interfering

435
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<v Speaker 2>with the you know, investigations and stuff like just fucking

436
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<v Speaker 2>crazy crazy crazy, so good, so good.

437
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it wasn't best in the way of like

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<v Speaker 3>like you have on a questions, like we're saying it

439
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<v Speaker 3>could have been even longer, but it was so good

440
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<v Speaker 3>in the way that there's like twist, twist, twist, and

441
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<v Speaker 3>you're like wait what Yeah, oh, no, wonder there was

442
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<v Speaker 3>more time in this documentary. And then you're like, god,

443
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<v Speaker 3>people are crazy.

444
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<v Speaker 2>The hell the hell, and now two crazy people found

445
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<v Speaker 2>each other.

446
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<v Speaker 1>That that was just like wow, wow wow wow.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

448
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<v Speaker 3>And then okay, so I want to do a basically

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<v Speaker 3>a shout out for our friend before we move on

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<v Speaker 3>to our next topic. Karen Ford. For those of you, well,

451
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't cut it out of Tuesday, but Karen Ford

452
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<v Speaker 3>is my GLP one lady that a lot of you

453
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<v Speaker 3>guys are using. So I'm not telling you anything you

454
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<v Speaker 3>don't know, but I'm going to give you her phone

455
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<v Speaker 3>number and just tell you that I found GLP ones

456
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<v Speaker 3>after my whole a lifetime of like kind of dieting

457
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<v Speaker 3>and you know, getting getting big and then trying to

458
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<v Speaker 3>get small again and then going to the gym, and

459
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<v Speaker 3>then having gone through menopause and being like, well now

460
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<v Speaker 3>it's really hard to lose weight. I decided to try

461
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<v Speaker 3>GLP ones. As everybody knows you've been hearing about my thing.

462
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<v Speaker 3>And then I got Karen Ford's name from one of

463
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<v Speaker 3>our listeners. It wasn't like random, somebody was using her.

464
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<v Speaker 3>And now our friend Karen has like officially made this like.

465
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<v Speaker 1>A big business.

466
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<v Speaker 3>So she's doing it through like the online pharmacy, and

467
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<v Speaker 3>you get the all the things you would get with

468
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<v Speaker 3>those other services, but for less money. And you're kind

469
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<v Speaker 3>of grandfathered into her prices on FCOL. So you're gonna

470
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<v Speaker 3>you call her and you just say, hey, I'm an

471
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<v Speaker 3>FCOL listener, can you hook me up? And she'll take

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<v Speaker 3>you through it. So her number is nine four nine

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<v Speaker 3>eight three six nine one four four. Her name is

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<v Speaker 3>Karen Ford. She's on our page, on our Facebook page,

475
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<v Speaker 3>and I'll just.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Put her freaking phone number for you.

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<v Speaker 3>The description of the episode nice, so just unders sound great. Yeah,

478
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<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing to probably get a lot of listeners,

479
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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm sure people are gonna everybody wants to try those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, will you turn the.

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<v Speaker 3>Air down a little like like not off? No, I

482
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<v Speaker 3>mean it's I'm not cold enough. I know I'm hot.

483
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<v Speaker 3>It is hot. It's like it's like a lake Havasu here.

484
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<v Speaker 2>No, it's swampy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So do you okay really quick? This is just

486
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<v Speaker 3>kind of funny. So for anybody that watched The Ultimatum

487
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:36.920
<v Speaker 3>this season, yeah, I started watching it, okay, So it's

488
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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty good season.

489
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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of crazy. It's a little crazy.

490
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<v Speaker 3>So there's this guy named Eddriss who doesn't isn't when

491
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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't.

492
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<v Speaker 1>Go into the trial marriage?

493
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<v Speaker 2>Is he the one with the curly curly hair?

494
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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, who had the curly curly hair? He was

495
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<v Speaker 1>like the Yeah, he kind of was very immature. Oh no, no,

496
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<v Speaker 1>no no. But so two guys don't go into the

497
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<v Speaker 1>trial marriages.

498
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<v Speaker 3>That guy Gebrin, that's right, right, Yeah, that's young, he's

499
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<v Speaker 3>really young.

500
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

501
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<v Speaker 3>So this guy is really cute, looks a little bit

502
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<v Speaker 3>like Andy Garcia. Ooh, and he proposes to his girlfriend

503
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<v Speaker 3>before they can go into the trial marriages. Now, apparently

504
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<v Speaker 3>in the reunion, he's apparently very crazy and he was

505
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<v Speaker 3>like abusive that he and he and that girl break

506
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<v Speaker 3>up and then she says like he was humiliating me

507
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<v Speaker 3>and there's all this stuff.

508
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, but now they're back together.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, I was on social media and I saw that

510
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<v Speaker 3>he's been sober for like a really long time, okay,

511
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<v Speaker 3>like sixteen or seventeen years. So I was like, shit,

512
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<v Speaker 3>I want to get him on drunkish. Yeah, So I

513
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<v Speaker 3>sent him a message on Instagram and he got right

514
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<v Speaker 3>back to me, and he was immediately like, Hey, I

515
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<v Speaker 3>just want you to know that my behavior on the

516
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<v Speaker 3>reunion well done.

517
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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. I haven't seen the reunion, right because

518
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<v Speaker 1>I heard.

519
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<v Speaker 3>People talking about it on Reddit, but every time I

520
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:12.920
<v Speaker 3>went to watch it, I was falling asleep, really, so

521
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<v Speaker 3>I never got to his part, right, I still need to.

522
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<v Speaker 3>So when he said that, he was like, I just

523
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<v Speaker 3>want you to know, like that behavior it's not like

524
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<v Speaker 3>represent it doesn't represent me. And I'm really sorry and

525
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<v Speaker 3>I feel really bad and like I've made amends and

526
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<v Speaker 3>all this stuff. And I was like, dude, I don't

527
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<v Speaker 3>know because I haven't actually seen the reunion, but honestly,

528
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<v Speaker 3>I don't really.

529
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<v Speaker 1>Care, right right, right, so what like, my name's Caul.

530
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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly.

531
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<v Speaker 3>I still want him on the show to talk about sobriety.

532
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<v Speaker 3>I we don't even have to talk about the show

533
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<v Speaker 3>if you don't want. But he goes, I have to

534
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<v Speaker 3>check with Netflix pr department. So he's like, I'm gonna

535
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<v Speaker 3>email Netflix and let you know, and the Netflix lady

536
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<v Speaker 3>wrote back right away and was like hell yeah, when.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, name of a day. That's great, that's nice,

538
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<v Speaker 2>that'll be fun.

539
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<v Speaker 1>That's good.

540
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<v Speaker 2>They about the publicity. I'm sure you know, to have

541
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<v Speaker 2>him on it really.

542
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<v Speaker 3>Does not have a lot of Instagram followers, and you know,

543
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that I'm not going to make him look bad.

544
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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

545
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, obviously I'm gonna say I watched you on the show,

546
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.839
<v Speaker 3>but and I will have seen the reunion, right, but

547
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<v Speaker 3>he's going to talk about sobriety. So yeah, that's good. Yeah,

548
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<v Speaker 3>that's good. Yeah, Well keep us to stop.

549
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, there is another show actually on Hulu. It just

551
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<v Speaker 2>came out. My grandfather is Charles Manson.

552
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<v Speaker 1>I want to see that one.

553
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<v Speaker 2>I watched that one last night too, and it was

554
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<v Speaker 2>pretty good.

555
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<v Speaker 1>It was really good.

556
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<v Speaker 2>Young she's, you know, and she's very close to her dad,

557
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<v Speaker 2>and her dad's dad was Charles Manson. And she goes

558
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<v Speaker 2>out there and she talks to people that knew her

559
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<v Speaker 2>grandfather and she her and she documents her relationship with

560
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<v Speaker 2>her dad or dad was like a single dad who

561
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<v Speaker 2>brought her up. You can see the resemblance. Her dad's

562
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>pretty cute actually, and she looked she's got kind of

563
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<v Speaker 2>like you can see the resemblance pretty much. But it's

564
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<v Speaker 2>pretty interesting. You can watch it. She cries a little

565
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>too Much's a little too much, and very close up

566
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>of the crying, oh, wanting a couple of things, but

567
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.319
<v Speaker 2>like every other scene, she's like crying. Well, it's not

568
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<v Speaker 2>like it just happened, right, I mean, yeah, and you

569
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do anything wrong. So but yeah, you gotta watch it.

570
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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty, it's it's interesting.

571
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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Yeah, and I want to also get to this court.

572
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 3>Case that we could talk about. But I thought I

573
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<v Speaker 3>would tell you about this article that I found. Yeah, okay,

574
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 3>so the headline this isn't People magazine. I want your

575
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<v Speaker 3>take on this. The headline is mom thinks family dog

576
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<v Speaker 3>hated her so much it purposely attacked her daughter.

577
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<v Speaker 2>Wait, mom thinks fall.

578
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read you the I'm gonna read you the article. Okay.

579
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<v Speaker 3>Heather and Nicholas Harris's child was injured by their wymerainer

580
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<v Speaker 3>love wine rainers.

581
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<v Speaker 1>They're so bad.

582
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<v Speaker 2>They got the white, they get the wirey, don't they have?

583
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh they're very skinny too.

584
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<v Speaker 1>They were like light brown. They're like Tope Colard with

585
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<v Speaker 1>like usually with like blue eyes.

586
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 3>Right, and they are also in a lot of like

587
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.480
<v Speaker 3>dog calendars. They're just very good looking. Sleek, very short

588
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 3>haired dogs. Okay, So a woman thinks her family dog

589
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<v Speaker 3>preferred her husband and hated her so much it purposely

590
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<v Speaker 3>attacked their young daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

592
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<v Speaker 3>Heather and Nicholas Harris, Welcome to wymerainer a German hunting

593
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<v Speaker 3>dog named Remington into their home in twenty twenty one

594
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<v Speaker 3>when the pup was eight weeks old. So they got

595
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<v Speaker 3>them as a baby. Okay, she says. My husband had

596
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<v Speaker 3>wanted that breed his whole life, Heather said, just skipping

597
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:04.759
<v Speaker 3>around a little. Remington, according to Heather, quote, ended up

598
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 3>being super clingy with Nicholas husband. Okay, so that's like

599
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:14.920
<v Speaker 3>how Bob is with me, right, Okay? She added, quote

600
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<v Speaker 3>he was obsessed with my husband and hated me.

601
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<v Speaker 1>What. Okay, I'm reading this article. I'm like, this is

602
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<v Speaker 1>People magazine.

603
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Like that is kind of strange.

604
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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it hates me. It doesn't hate you, ad dogs

605
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>don't hate people, right unless you're like abuses? Right? Okay.

606
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<v Speaker 3>Heather explained that after quote a couple of incidents where

607
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Remington had attacked our other dog, she and Nicholas took

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<v Speaker 3>him to the vet.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>He was put on a mood stabilizer. By the way, relatable.

611
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I've thought about that, like, maybe Bob needs some prozac. Yeah,

612
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 3>you know that's anxious, right, Okay, And had been on

613
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 3>the pill, not the birth control pill, on the on

614
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>the mood stabilizer for about eight months. There hadn't been

615
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 3>any more incidents, but he still had some issues sharing. Okay,

616
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 3>now listen, by the way, don't hear this. This is

617
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>a very sad story and this dog sucks. But like

618
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 3>it's just this woman's point of view is weird, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Two years later, in twenty twenty three, Heather and Nicholas

620
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<v Speaker 3>welcome to daughter Savannah, changing up their family dynamic by

621
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<v Speaker 3>adding another human in the mix. A year later, tragedy

622
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.400
<v Speaker 3>struck that forced the couple to put their child first.

623
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<v Speaker 3>So here's what happened. October twenty twenty four. Heather was

624
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<v Speaker 3>at home with her then eleven month old child, who

625
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<v Speaker 3>was using her walker to get around the kitchen.

626
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<v Speaker 1>Quote.

627
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<v Speaker 3>I'd always tried never to keep my eyes off her

628
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<v Speaker 3>or leave her in a room with him unattended, the

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<v Speaker 3>mom said, referring to her child and the pet. At

630
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<v Speaker 3>one point, Heather said she heard a snarl coming from Remington,

631
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<v Speaker 3>and she quote then heard a loud scream from my daughter.

632
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<v Speaker 3>Rushing into the room, Heather found that the animal had

633
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 3>attacked Savannah. He literally took a chunk of her cheek out,

634
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 3>she said of Remington. There was blood everywhere. The chunk

635
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:13.160
<v Speaker 3>was on the floor. It was so traumatic. Oh my right, horrible, horrible.

636
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 3>I could barely breathe. She was inconsolable. I was in

637
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>such shock.

638
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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

639
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<v Speaker 3>Savannah was rushed to children's hospital after the attack, and

640
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>there she underwent surgery to have a bioengineered synthetic skin

641
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 3>replacement fitted to help regrow cells on her face. Okay,

642
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 3>so I'm not going to read any more about that matter.

643
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 3>But she's doing okay, okay, And she says, I think

644
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>if he'd gotten her in the right spot, he probably

645
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.799
<v Speaker 3>could have killed her. He added, She added, this is

646
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 3>the mom and then the dog was put.

647
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>To put down.

648
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but then this is the end of this. This

649
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 3>is like the end of the article.

650
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>She goes.

651
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Looking back, she thinks the canine went after her daughter

652
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 3>because of his disdain for her.

653
00:31:58.480 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Quote.

654
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I feel like this was target it at me. Ever

655
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 3>since Savannah was born. I feel like he was even

656
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 3>more clinging with my husband.

657
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Quote.

658
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 3>He just loved my husband, and I felt Savannah was

659
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 3>the one thing he could get back at me for,

660
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 3>continued Heather f Yeah, and she basically is like, if

661
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>your dog shows any aggression, I think they may need

662
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 3>to be removed from the home. Yeah obviously yes, But

663
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 3>like you, she thinks this dog that was adopted at

664
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 3>eight weeks is like a bad send.

665
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>You guys like agenda right.

666
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Like writing down face?

667
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

668
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh today mom went in the kitchen and didn't

669
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.200
<v Speaker 3>fix me a snack. That bitch, I'm going to get

670
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 3>her child to get back at her.

671
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, right, That is crazy down crazy crazy, Like.

672
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 3>No, you're dog also for an aggressive dog that I

673
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 3>get it, But like, how are you like, Oh, he

674
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 3>loved my husband. He just's trying to attack my child

675
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 3>to get because he hates me.

676
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>The dogs don't, They don't think that way. They're not

677
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>plotting against you. It's not a dog out of a

678
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>horror movie.

679
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 3>Maybe the dog's grandfather Charles Manson, Right there you go, Yes,

680
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.720
<v Speaker 3>it's a bad seed. Yeah, that's crazy. Will I say

681
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 3>that out loud to People magazine?

682
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Tell it to your other crazy friends exactly other weird.

683
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:25.480
<v Speaker 3>But it's like you're gonna say you've had a few

684
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:29.119
<v Speaker 3>glasses of wine, keep it to yourself. You're still processing

685
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 3>your trauma. You're like, I know this is gonna sound

686
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 3>super nuts, right, but I sometimes I would feel like

687
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 3>the way the dog.

688
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Was looking at me, like okay, And then your friends

689
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>could be like, dude, okay, crazy relax. Yeah, but you're.

690
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Like sitting there with People Magazine like like, here's my theory.

691
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You better watch for your dogs. Yes, they might be

692
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:51.279
<v Speaker 1>doing the.

693
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Same public service announcement. Yeah, although I do have a

694
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 2>crazy friend that might think the same way, just saying.

695
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's possible. Okay. So then we wanted to talk

696
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>about this sad court case. Oh it's so sad.

697
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just I saw that there was

698
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>like opening statements this morning. It's the Lance Lindsey Clancy story.

699
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 2>It's really sad because she was apparently struggling with postpartum.

700
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:20.400
<v Speaker 2>She had three kids, like young under the age of

701
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:25.519
<v Speaker 2>like six, and she had been struggling. Was a young couple.

702
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Husband went to go get food, She killed the kids,

703
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and then she went outside and tried to kill herself

704
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>by slitting her throat, and the husband found her and

705
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, what are you doing? What is going on?

706
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Where are the kids? Because he knew that she's been

707
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 2>struggling with a lot of postpartum and she was like,

708
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.199
<v Speaker 2>they're in the basement. Now. She is like paralyzed now

709
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>from the waist down, and she's on trial. She fully

710
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.480
<v Speaker 2>admits that she did it. Her defenses, and her husband

711
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>has now actually remarried and had kids pretty quickly and

712
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>has moved on. But he's very supportive to her, and

713
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 2>he's testifying today like for the prosecution, but he's sticking

714
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>up for her, saying basically, we've gone so many, so

715
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>many doctors. She wasn't quiet about it. She kept telling

716
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 2>me she was having these ideations of self harm, harming

717
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>the kids. It's been going on for actually years, and

718
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:34.079
<v Speaker 2>they put her right before the murders. They put her

719
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 2>on like I think they said, like twenty two different

720
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 2>medications in that year. Yes, and they were going today

721
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 2>they were going through all the different medications. But he

722
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.800
<v Speaker 2>was the first witness that the husband was the first

723
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 2>witness on the stand today. So it's going on right

724
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:51.119
<v Speaker 2>now in Boston.

725
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.079
<v Speaker 1>So why didn't they get her help soon?

726
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 2>They tried, They tried. I think they're gonna say basically

727
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 2>like the doctors or some she was failed along the

728
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>way because they tried. Yeah, turned the air down to

729
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:12.760
<v Speaker 2>sixty six nice.

730
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, like, what did he has?

731
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Has?

732
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 3>The husband said, like what some of the signs were,

733
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 3>because obviously he thought as soon as he saw he

734
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 3>was like where the kids?

735
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Right?

736
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>He didn't he Actually, I think of what I heard.

737
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong, but I think I heard that

738
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>he's quit his job and started working from home to

739
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>keep an eye on her.

740
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh Andy, they were.

741
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, they were going to a lot of different appointments,

742
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>uh huh, and they just couldn't get anything going, Like

743
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't get I don't know, I don't know. We're

744
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to see how it happened.

745
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.719
<v Speaker 3>The last one, remember the one that was Andrea Yates. Yeah,

746
00:36:52.840 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 3>her husband and she killed her kids and her husband rusty, Yeah, okay,

747
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 3>they had he kept making her have more kids even

748
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 3>though she had horrible postpartum psychosis.

749
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>And he was like they were religious. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

750
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that one was that was different. Yeah, the husband was

751
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>like kind of ignored I think the symptoms, whereas this

752
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 2>is totally different.

753
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 3>But had she had any of these symptoms with the

754
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 3>first kid or the second kid.

755
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Because like I think it kept going because the kids

756
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 2>are not that far in age, Like, why.

757
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Have three if you're experience if you experience postpartum psychosis,

758
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 3>that's not treated right, right, because obviously you have the

759
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 3>third one. I'm not judging by the way I'm saying.

760
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.599
<v Speaker 3>It seems weird that it's like it's one thing if

761
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 3>you have it with the first one. I know people

762
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:49.079
<v Speaker 3>this has happened to that get like post really bad postpartum,

763
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 3>like the serious psychosis kind, then get treated and then

764
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.400
<v Speaker 3>they know what to do, Like they decide to have

765
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>another one, but they know they're going to.

766
00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Have to get treated right away.

767
00:37:59.320 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

768
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I also know.

769
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 3>People that had that happened with the first one, and

770
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.960
<v Speaker 3>then we're like absolutely not having another.

771
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, like right, not worth the risk. Yeah.

772
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, I know I should. I mean,

773
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I was just listening to it on my way in

774
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 2>about it and it's just really sad. But we'll see

775
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 2>what happens. Yeah, any Karen read updates, not that I

776
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 2>know of. There's always updates, there's always stuff going on,

777
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.880
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. I got to catch up. I haven't.

778
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I need something like I need something to keep

779
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 3>up on. Yeah, now that Blake Lively is not.

780
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know. Oh and then I heard that

781
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Reynolds was at Comic Con and he's such a douche.

782
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear anything like he's just I can't stand him.

783
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 2>I just can't look at him the same at him

784
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and her.

785
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>What are they saying? He was acting like.

786
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I just like it was making it all about him,

787
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.159
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think that that side of the

788
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 2>audience and comic Con fans, they don't give a shit

789
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.800
<v Speaker 2>about the Baldoniana Lively, so he's always going to have

790
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 2>that built an audience her. I don't know what she's

791
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 2>going to do, Like who's going to want to work

792
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 2>with her? I mean, she wasn't even doing movie great

793
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 2>movies before It Ends with Us. She ruined her fucking career.

794
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 2>She could have done It Ends with Us part one,

795
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Part two, part three, and sailed off in the Sunset,

796
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>but no, she fucked it up.

797
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:22.639
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

798
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like if she's ever gonna people are

799
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 2>talking about it, like is she ever going to work again?

800
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Like what director is going to want to work with her?

801
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, but you could get a director like the

802
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>guy that directed Simple Whatever, and you know that doesn't

803
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 2>care about that stuff. Who knows, I don't know.

804
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, before we go, I'll just recommend that I have

805
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 3>been listening to I went back because of my memory problems,

806
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 3>which the good side of my memory problems, I went

807
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 3>back to The Opportunist. And remember this Sherry Shriner story

808
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 3>sounds she was like a weird doomsday like cult.

809
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

810
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:06.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's such a fucked up story. Unfortunately you have

811
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 3>to pay. But what I did is I bought like

812
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 3>a trial, right, and so I can I can listen

813
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 3>for like a week. Yeah, yeah, I can get through

814
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.440
<v Speaker 3>all the episodes I want to get through. So I'm

815
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:18.320
<v Speaker 3>just trying to hurry up.

816
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>What's it called.

817
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 3>It's called The Opportunist. Opportunist and if you if you

818
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 3>do the trial, they re Sheherry Shriner's stuff was some

819
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:29.840
<v Speaker 3>of the first stuff they ever did. And there's like

820
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 3>two hundred episodes but so but luckily they put them

821
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:35.920
<v Speaker 3>all as the most recent.

822
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.079
<v Speaker 1>So, like the whole podcast is basically behind a paywall.

823
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:42.280
<v Speaker 1>What is it? What's it about?

824
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Is she she's a.

825
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 1>It's about a cult.

826
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 3>It's about like a weird doomsday cult and what she

827
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 3>was like on the radio, and it was during COVID

828
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and she just does not seem like anybody

829
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 3>that would really be running a cult because she kind

830
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.880
<v Speaker 3>of tacks like, you know, she's like, yeah, my name's

831
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.639
<v Speaker 3>like Sherry Shriner, and and they she wants everybody to

832
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:06.079
<v Speaker 3>make Orgon. It's like it's just weird conspiracy theory. But

833
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 3>then you're like, how do these people get sucked in?

834
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.159
<v Speaker 3>And they're like they call themselves Orgon Warriors, and they're like, yeah,

835
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Sherry Shriner, she's keeping them all safe from the aliens.

836
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I think. I remember she gets into.

837
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 3>A fight with this other cult, this other like conspiracy theorist,

838
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 3>because the other conspiracy theorist is like a weird religion

839
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theorist. But so they get they're doing an appearance

840
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:32.400
<v Speaker 3>together on some show and everything's going great until it

841
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.480
<v Speaker 3>turns out that but Sherry Shriner also believes in aliens,

842
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 3>and the other lady's like wait what like but they're

843
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 3>both super fucking crazy, right, conspiracy crazy and crazy Yeah,

844
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.239
<v Speaker 3>like the blood of this and the blood of that.

845
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 3>They're like, yeah, bonded. And then Sheerry's like yeah, but

846
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 3>the aliens and the other one's like, wait ah, that's

847
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.280
<v Speaker 3>not Jesus quoted for me. I don't believe in aliens.

848
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, well, you're stupid, and then they have

849
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 3>a big fight and like Sherry hangs up on her.

850
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's so good.

851
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I love Crazy on Crazy Grind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it's like eight episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta listen. I kind of remember, didn't she.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime I see people online that have like that purply

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<v Speaker 2>cosmic stars, ever see those like as their avatar or

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<v Speaker 2>like a unicorn, Like it's always purple and stars and

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<v Speaker 2>like a Bolliage Colerie thing, I'm always like, good cut goo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yes, yes, but so in a row. Remember

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<v Speaker 3>last week I told you to go back and listen

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<v Speaker 3>to Till Swan right the Gateway right, But now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on to Sherry Schriiner.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another little longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Series in there if you go way back about this

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<v Speaker 3>guy named Chris Baffam who was who ran rehabs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I remember that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's in jail right now. He

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<v Speaker 3>was scamming. He was pulling these scams. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>crazy people involved with that story. My tie to it

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<v Speaker 3>is I remember they did this article about him in

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<v Speaker 3>the La Times years ago, and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, this is crazy. Then I was in children's

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<v Speaker 3>hospital with Sadie in like the blood draw room. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you just start like striking up a conversation with another

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<v Speaker 3>mom with her kid, and I was talking to this

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<v Speaker 3>mom and somehow it came out this quickly that her

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<v Speaker 3>husband runs rehabs. And I was like, oh, what's his name? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was sober at the time, and she

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<v Speaker 3>was like Chris Batham and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, oh shit, wow guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course I wasn't like, oh I know who that is.

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<v Speaker 3>I just read about the shoe's scandal right right. He

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't in jail at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was after the article came out.

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<v Speaker 3>After the article came out, she must have thought, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't read the article.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you want to brag about that? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just came out like that's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, that's of extra interest.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very similar to something happening in van Ey's.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's like, oh, I I know I know that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now man, Yeah, all right, well, let's say hello to

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<v Speaker 3>our beautiful listeners again. We got Dick Frolicker and Nikki

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<v Speaker 3>call your girl, Elizabeth Williamson, a lot of kiddies.

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<v Speaker 1>And who's rocking him?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? And Red and her Massy yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Paully, we love your pancakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Valerie hits it out of the park, Katerina, check that Mueller,

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<v Speaker 2>Gaby and Missy. They made it back from Arizona, but

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<v Speaker 2>they went in the wrong direction, so now they're in

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<v Speaker 2>like Barstow, Rebecca Uh, Sean Voje Pei Oht, nice ass,

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly Brandt, she's your aunt. Alicia Scalante City Vale Monte Leslie,

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<v Speaker 2>stop it with the coughing.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron is a dirty Sanchez. Sandra not easy being green.

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<v Speaker 1>Rista gets trapped. Katie's rolling on e. Adam Lerner he's

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<v Speaker 1>our car guy. Adam's got a car.

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<v Speaker 3>Please check him out if you're looking to get another vehicle, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see y'all next week. Your parent, now, don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it out that angel
