WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:05.440 The stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:07.120 podcast network. 3 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:11.640 Diving headfirst into the stone zone. If you love political 4 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:14.759 theater and you're interested in justice, you had to be 5 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:19.960 mesmerized by the performance of doctor Anthony Fauci, the COVID 6 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:23.480 czar who repeatedly evoked the Fifth Amendment more than one 7 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:27.320 hundred times before the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday 8 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:32.079 to avoid giving honest testimony about his disgraceful and dishonest 9 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.799 actions during the COVID nineteen pandemic. Questioned by Chairman Raan 10 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:40.920 Paul about the origins of the China virus, the taxpayer 11 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:45.960 funded Jaina function research, and deleted records, Fauci refused to answer. 12 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:48.920 Now some have criticized Fauci, saying even when he was 13 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.039 asked questions such as whether a folder was sitting on 14 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:55.960 the desk before him, he stonewalked all questions. In all fairness, 15 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:01.119 is important to understand that when one is legitimately using 16 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:04.799 their Fifth Amendment right, asserting their Fifth Amendment right, you 17 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.599 must answer all questions with the Fifth Amendment. You don't 18 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.439 get to pick and choose which questions to answer and 19 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:14.840 on which questions to assert the right. In the case 20 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.920 of Faucci, however, there's a serious question as to whether 21 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:23.480 he was entitled to use his Fifth Amendment right because 22 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:28.640 he has a sweeping preemptive pardon that covers the period 23 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:31.439 in question. Now, I want to be absolutely precise, and 24 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:33.519 I want to be correct about this. When I went 25 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:36.480 to the House Intelligence Committee, I did not assert my 26 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.640 Fifth Amendment right in retrospective. If I knew that they 27 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:43.760 were going to take immaterial answers and twist them into 28 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:50.239 thought crimes or process crimes, I probably should have. When, however, 29 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:54.200 I was subpoena by the January sixth Committee, and I 30 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:57.640 realized that the January sixth Committee was not only illegally 31 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.840 constituted refusing to take the appointees of the Republican Minority leader, 32 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:07.359 that Cassidy Hutcheson, an aide to former White House Chief 33 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:12.120 Mark Meadows, would fabricate taximony against me. When I learned 34 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.599 that they would use both AI generated audios and videos 35 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.479 to twist things that I had said or put words 36 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:20.680 in my mouth that I never said at all. Yes, 37 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:25.080 I asserted my Fifth Amendment rights. It does have legitimate purpose. 38 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:29.879 But in this case, Rayan Paul argued that the pardon 39 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.680 undercuts Fauci's claimed fear of self incrimination, while Fauci's lawyer 40 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:39.199 suggested he could still face other legal exposure. Most interesting 41 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.879 was the fact that his attorney repeatedly interrupted until Paul 42 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.360 finally had the attorney removed from the air. If you 43 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:51.240 watch this on TV, the lawyer was literally screaming and 44 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.400 trying to stop the proceedings. Don't worry about doctor Fauci. 45 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:59.400 He had six other lawyers there also representing them. Fauci now, 46 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:03.759 of course, says the investigations political persecution. But his behavior 47 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:09.840 looks incredibly suspicious, and I really see why. Sample one. 48 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.879 In his private diary on March fifteen, twenty twenty, he wrote, 49 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.000 and I quote, I spoke with Bill Deblasio, former mayor 50 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.280 of New York, and convinced him, based on what I 51 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:23.000 was saying publicly and my conversation tonight, to close the 52 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:27.280 New York schools. In his public statement under oath, he said, 53 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:29.759 show me a school that I shut down, show me 54 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.400 a factory that I shut down. Never I never did. 55 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:37.360 Sample two the lockdowns. In his private diary in March 56 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:42.039 of twenty twenty, Fauncy recorded recommending the closure of schools, bars, 57 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.360 and restaurants. He also wrote that he and others convinced 58 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:49.639 President Trump to expend the federal mitigation guidelines from fifteen 59 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:52.800 days to thirty days under oath. In public, he said, 60 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.479 first of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down. That's perjury. 61 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:02.599 Sample number three face masks. In his public statement, he 62 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.479 said on March eighth, twenty twenty, there's no reason to 63 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.400 be walking around with a mask. In his private diary 64 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.960 in spring of twenty twenty, Fauci wrote, we probably were 65 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:17.120 too strong as saying masks do not work. Sample number four. 66 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.160 In his public statement of March twenty twenty, he said 67 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:23.839 it's not providing the perfect protection that people think it is. 68 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:27.439 In his public testimony, he said, there's no doubt that 69 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:31.920 wearing masks protects you. That's June of twenty twenty. Example 70 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:36.160 number five. Why masks were initially discourage he says, and 71 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.519 i'd quote in a public comment, there's no reason to 72 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:42.800 be walking around with a mask. Later he publicly said. 73 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:47.199 Fauci explained that earlier guidelines were influenced by concerns over 74 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:52.519 preserving mask supplies for healthcare workers. Sample number six. The 75 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:56.800 hand seafood market. In his private diary January twenty six, 76 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:00.399 twenty twenty, Fauci says the first in fact, was in 77 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.879 early December and was not connected to the market. Now 78 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:06.160 we know the market was not the source, it was 79 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:09.959 the amplifier. Those are his own words that proves that 80 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:13.519 he lied before the Senate committee chaired by Van Paul 81 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.560 Sample number seven. Again, this has to do with the 82 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:22.279 early laboratory origins and those conversations. His private diary January 83 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:27.800 thirty first, twenty twenty, Fauci documented discussions with leading virologists 84 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:33.439 regarding unusual circumstances of the SARS cove two and recorded 85 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:38.000 that scenarios involving an accidental laboratory release were discussed. In 86 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:42.600 one diary entry includes the following exact language either accidentally 87 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:45.639 released or delivered release by a crazy personal lab the 88 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:51.439 former being the most likely. But in public, Fauci repeatedly 89 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:55.120 stated that the available scientific evidence favored a natural origin 90 00:05:55.439 --> 00:06:00.439 while investigations continued. Example number eight gain the function research 91 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.839 and his sworn Senate testimony on May eleventh, twenty twenty, 92 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:07.680 Fauci said the National Institute of Health has never, ever 93 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:11.120 and does not now fund GAIN of function research in 94 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.399 the Wuhan Institute of Virology. In his private diary, Fauci 95 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:20.000 noted that certain experiments results could be interpreted by some 96 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.560 as gain of function paid for by you and I 97 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:28.399 the taxpayers. Sample number nine the gain of function definition. 98 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:32.519 In the Senate testimony, Fauci said, the National Institute of 99 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.720 Health has never, ever, and does not now fund gain 100 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:39.920 of function research. Then on his congressional testimony in twenty 101 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:43.240 twenty four, he fudged, saying, well, gain of function is 102 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:48.600 a very nebulous term. Then there's example number ten. Six 103 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:52.920 feet of social distancing. Public guide uites put out by 104 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:57.079 Fauci during the pandemic said promoted maintaining six feets of 105 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.800 distance as a key mitigation measure, but in his congressional 106 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:05.720 testimony he said it just sort of appeared. I was 107 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:08.240 not aware of any studies. It was just an emperic 108 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:13.199 decision that wasn't based on any data. Sample number eleven. 109 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:18.199 Following the science in his public messaging, Fauci said pandemic 110 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:23.079 policies were repeatedly presented as science based recommendations, but in 111 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.560 his congressional testimony, I six with guidance, he said that 112 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.360 was an empirical decision I was that was not based 113 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:35.959 on data. Direct contradiction. Example number twelve heard immunity threshold. 114 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.680 The early public estimate was put out by Fauci to 115 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:44.000 be sixty to seven percent immunity. Then later his public 116 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.639 estimate was approximately seventy five to eighty five percent, with 117 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:51.600 later comments suggesting it could approach ninety percent. But later 118 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:54.959 Fauci said acknowledged that his public statements evolved in part 119 00:07:55.000 --> 00:08:01.279 alongside increasing public willingness to receive the vaccination. Number thirteen 120 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:06.720 school closings versus reopening. In his private diary, Fauci wrote, 121 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:10.480 I convinced him, meaning the President the mayor to close 122 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:13.439 the New York schools. Later in his diary he said 123 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:17.560 I never said do not open the schools. He also wrote, 124 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:20.439 we should have as a default position our attempt intention 125 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:26.040 to open the schools sample number fourteen. In his private diary, 126 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:29.720 throughout the pandemic, Fauci recorded a that he convinced Mayor 127 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:33.320 Bill Deblasio to close the schools. He also said he 128 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.200 influenced California officials through his public messaging to close the schools. 129 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.159 He helped persuade President Trump to stain the mitigration messages, 130 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.440 and he advised governors and senior government officials. Later in 131 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.279 public he said, I never did I gave a public 132 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.120 health recommendation, and people made a decision based on that. 133 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:57.080 The documents that we have seeing release really leave a 134 00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:02.000 substantial number of unresolved questions, and Fauci's private understanding evolved 135 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:06.000 differently than his public messaging. These dire entries certainly indicate 136 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:09.200 that they did. Did his description of his own influence 137 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.399 change after the pandemic? Were technical definitions used differently in 138 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.320 public testimony than internal discussions. Were some public statements simplified 139 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:23.039 in ways that omitted important uncertainty, Which important contradictions were 140 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:27.480 explained by context, and which deserved further investigation. The diary 141 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:32.200 does prove one record. Public interviews, Senate testimony, congressional hearings, 142 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:35.960 and media appearances provide an entirely different view. The purpose 143 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:38.840 of all these comparisons not to determine guilt or innocence, 144 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.120 but does show you the discrepancies between what Fauci said 145 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.960 in public and what he said in his diaries. Senator 146 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:51.639 Josh Hawley confronted Fauci in the testimony today over his 147 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:58.000 wealth and the celebrity accumulated while Americans lost loved ones, businesses, jobs, schooling, 148 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:02.399 and basic freedoms during the pandemic. Hally accused Fauci of 149 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:06.960 profiteering while families suffered, and demanded accountability for the policies 150 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.120 he pushed that devastated our country. Fauci has consistently disputed 151 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:14.519 claims that his agency funded the dangerous research in Who 152 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:18.919 I Am, but the evidence shows the contrary. Americans have 153 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:23.000 heard years of shifting explanations, their missing records, suppressed debate, 154 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:27.080 and official evasions. The country deserves the whole truth about 155 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:31.720 COVID's origins, federal funding, possible cover ups, and whether powerful 156 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.600 officials misled Congress while escaping consequences. And when all is 157 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.759 said and done, doctor Fauci, who I really think has 158 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:42.399 truly earned the title of the American Mengala, deserves to 159 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:45.440 be charged at a minimum for lying under oath to 160 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:49.840 the Senate, at a maximum for crimes against humanity. The 161 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:52.120 most disturbing thing about all of this, to me is 162 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:55.279 the fact that doctor Fauci, who was really in love 163 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:59.399 with his newfound celebrity. I'm working on a long piece 164 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.000 about how he gushed about the fact that he become. 165 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:06.720 It was named as the sexiest man alive. People came 166 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:10.840 out with a Fauci bobblehead and he was being praised 167 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:15.679 by Julia Roberts and Bad Pitt played him on Saturday 168 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:19.320 Night Live, and Billy Crystal played him in a different 169 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:22.279 skit on Saturday Night Live. This guy was in love 170 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.200 with himself. But the most troubling thing about all of 171 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:29.879 this is that doctor Fauci and his wife were quite 172 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:34.399 legally allowed to make millions and millions of dollars off 173 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:38.759 of the very vaccination they were seeking to make mandatory, 174 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:44.799 but which nevertheless they convinced millions of Americans to take. 175 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:48.799 To me, that should be a clear conflict of interest, 176 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.279 that should be illegal. So not only do I believe 177 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.639 that doctor Fauci is responsible for the deaths of literal 178 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.120 hundreds of thousands of innocent people, but he and his wife, 179 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:03.639 who's also a public health official in that time, made 180 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:09.000 millions of dollars while others were suffering. Will anybody be charged? 181 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:12.320 Will Fauci be charged? That remains to be seen. That, 182 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.159 of course, is up to the Justice Department. Today's proceeding 183 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:21.440 was a legislative proceeding, and it does speak volumes that 184 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:24.519 Fauci pled the Fifth when he had no legal to do, 185 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:29.200 no needle right nor necessity to do so again, even 186 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:33.399 though his pardon is signed by an auto pen. There 187 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:36.759 is no danger to self incrimination if you believe that 188 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:41.879 that partner is legitimate. Will hold up in court. When 189 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.240 we come back, we're going to talk about the ridiculous 190 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:49.200 award by the New York Courts to E. Jean Carroll. 191 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:52.159 That's the woman who claimed that Donald assaulted her in 192 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:56.600 the women's dressing room and Bergdorf Goodman on Fifth Avenue. 193 00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:58.559 There's a lot of holes in that story. We'll get 194 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:00.879 into it on the other side. Right here in the 195 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.519 Stone Zone, I'm Roger Stone. You listening to the Red 196 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.600 Apple Audio Networks. Whatever you do, don't go away. 197 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.879 The Stone Zone entertaining and informative on the Red Apple 198 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:26.960 Podcast Network. This is the Stone Zone. 199 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:28.679 Now get in a zone. 200 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:30.559 It's the Stone Zone. 201 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:34.720 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going, 202 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:36.320 and he's smart, and he's. 203 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:37.960 Strong, and people love him. 204 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:41.399 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him. Rogers Stone, 205 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:42.320 where's Rogers? 206 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.720 Here's Rogerstone. 207 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:49.080 Welcome back into the Stone Zone. President Trump and the 208 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:52.639 Justice Department are asking the US Supreme Court to review 209 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:57.679 the ridiculous eighty three point three million dollar defamation verdict 210 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:02.519 ordered to wacky during left wing writer e Jen Carrol. 211 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.000 This is the case in which Egen Carrol falsely claims 212 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.279 that President Donald Trump, as a private citizen, sexually assaulted 213 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.240 her in the women's dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman, a 214 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.200 high end department store on New York's Fifth Avenue. The 215 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:24.759 President has flatly denied that it's very interesting that the 216 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.639 Egen Carrol, a writer, said that she was wearing a 217 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:34.120 particularly particular Diane von Furstenberg wrap around dress on the 218 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.399 occasion that she was assaulted, even though she could never 219 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.679 remember the actual date, when, in fact, that dress in 220 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.159 which she was pictured on the cover of New York Magazine, 221 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:49.200 it turns out, had not even been designed or produced 222 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:54.919 at the time of the alleged incident. The President's was 223 00:14:55.039 --> 00:15:00.000 ultimately charged not with sexual assault, but with defamation. Those 224 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.159 denials were issued through an official White House statement and 225 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.720 in answers to reporters. The Justice Department argues that President 226 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:09.600 Trump was acting within the scope of his presidential duties, 227 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.240 meaning the federal government not personally and should have been 228 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:17.080 substituted as a defendant under the Westfall Act, and this 229 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:22.480 pertains to his specific denial of the earlier verdict. Former 230 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:26.840 Attorney General Bill Barr, hardly a Trump ally, made that 231 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:31.519 determination in twenty twenty, but Biden Attorney General Merrick Garland 232 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.039 later withdrew it, allowing the lawsuit to proceed against Trump 233 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:38.679 personally as part of the lawfare campaign meant to destroy 234 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:43.440 President Trump's reputation following the election hest of twenty twenty. 235 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:47.840 Attorney General Pambinni restored the certification in twenty twenty, but 236 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:52.600 the Second Circuit rejected that move. Now, the administration says 237 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:57.039 that ruling that ruling threatens the ability of future presidents 238 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:01.639 to respond forcibly to attacks without facing crush personal liability. 239 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.879 President Trump's private attorneys are also asking the justices to 240 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:11.039 consider presidential immunity, arguing that the appeals court never decided 241 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.440 whether his official statements were protected. So this is not 242 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:18.200 nearly about one verdict. It's about whether a politically hostile 243 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.399 court can punchie president personally for defending himself while in office. 244 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.840 An eighty three point three million dollar judgment over official 245 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:31.559 presidential mars is wildly excessive and carries consequences far beyond 246 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.720 President Trump. Anyone who's observed Egene Carol can tell she's 247 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:41.159 far from credible and this ruling is a complete farce. 248 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:46.480 I very specifically remember her on CNN saying that she 249 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:50.440 thought rape was sexy, and the host, of course, cut 250 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:54.440 almost immediately to a commercial. The Supreme Court should take 251 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:58.679 the case, should restore clear constitutional boundaries and prevent law 252 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:02.879 fair from becoming a permit a weapon against elected presidents. 253 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.359 There's also a question about whether Eging Carroll lied under 254 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.319 oath about whether her lawsuit had been funded in advance 255 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:16.039 by billionaire Reed Hoffman and associative Jeffrey Epstein, who visited 256 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:20.759 the island many times. There is an open Justice Department 257 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:25.119 investigation about whether Egan Carroll lied about that under oath. 258 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:27.880 You're listening to the Stone Zone. I'm Roger Stone. Don't 259 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.039 go away, because we'll be right back with more of 260 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:31.160 today's politics. 261 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.960 The Stone Zone entertaining and informative on the Red Apple 262 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:39.759 podcast networks yesterday. 263 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:42.319 Right here in the Stone Zone, I said that Mayor 264 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:46.119 Mandamie has no place at the September eleventh Memorial this 265 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:49.279 year or any other year see. I think the twenty 266 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.440 fifth anniversary of September eleventh's tariffs at taxes not a 267 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.079 political rally, a campaign opportunity, or a stage upon which 268 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.160 ambitious political officials should seek to rehabilitate their reputations. This 269 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.920 is a sacred day of remembrance dedicated to the nearly 270 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:08.359 three thousand innocent Americans murdered by Islamic terrorists, the first 271 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.160 responders who ran towards the flames while others fled, the 272 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.599 military men and women who answered the nation's call and 273 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.559 the wars that followed, and the families whose lives were 274 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.519 forever shattered. That day of memories belongs to them. It 275 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.799 does not belong to politicians whose public record demonstrates repeated 276 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.920 sympathy for those connected to the very ideology that produced 277 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:35.000 the dead least attack in American history. So again I 278 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:40.000 suggest that Mayor Rammandami stand down in his intention to 279 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:45.480 come to that profound and important remembrance. Just today, I 280 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.799 was contacted by a very prominent Democrat political consultant of 281 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.759 some note who asked me if if I wanted to 282 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:56.880 join him in an effort to recall Mayor mam Dami. 283 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.839 An offer I must have read it was empty, by 284 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.440 which I politely declined. You see, I think given the 285 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.359 demographic change in New York City and the fact that 286 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:10.599 a very substantial number of New York voters voting for 287 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:15.440 Hope and Change without ever knowing exact policies they were 288 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:20.720 voting for, would make a victory impossible. If you combine 289 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:25.400 the vote of the Republican and nominee and the independent candidate, 290 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:29.079 former Governor Andrew Cuomo, you do not get more votes 291 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:33.480 than Zoram Ma'amdami. That tells you how hopeless the electoral 292 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:37.039 situation is. New York City's social experiment is already drawing 293 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:42.519 a legal backlash from the immigrant owned businesses. Mandami claims 294 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:47.599 to champion. The Multicultural Business Coalition, representing fifty chambers of 295 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:53.559 commerce and businesses across Asian, African, Caribbean, Hispanic, Middle Eastern 296 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:56.640 and Jewish communities, has voted to sue the city of 297 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:01.920 Ma'amdami's plan for taxpayer funded grosser stores. The mayor wants 298 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:06.279 five city run supermarkets, one in each borough, sell basic 299 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:10.480 foods at discount of roughly thirty percent. Small business owners 300 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:13.720 are noting that this is a government subsidized mess that 301 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:17.640 will result in their bottom lines being destroyed. The grocery 302 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:20.160 store business is not that profitable to begin with, as 303 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:23.920 John Katsmetides has pointed out, given the rising cost of foods. 304 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.720 The proposed stores would operate on city property without paying rent, 305 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:32.640 while private grocers and bodegas must cover rent, taxes, payroll insurance, 306 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.759 and rising wholesale costs. Near the planned East Harlem location, 307 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.720 several bodegas already serve a neighborhood, and dozens of grocery 308 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:46.079 stores are within walking distances. The coalition chairman Frank Garcia said, 309 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:49.000 Ma'amdommi has refused to even meet with the concerned merchants, 310 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:53.039 as his far left ideology comes before the legitimate concerns 311 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:55.559 of the people of New York. The group plans to 312 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:58.599 raise one million dollars to fight the policy in court. 313 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:02.759 When government enters the marketplace, politicians use tax money to 314 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:06.880 undercut private businesses, then they claim that they're helping the 315 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.279 very communities they're actually displacing. These minority business owners work 316 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.799 their tails off for years to build successful businesses, and 317 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:18.200 now the edicts of an arrogant socialist putting all of 318 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.039 that in jeopardy. The way to bring food prices down 319 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:26.160 is through free market competition, lower taxes, reduce regulations, safer streets, 320 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.799 and reliable supply chains. New York's immigrant entrepreneurs deserve a 321 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:35.039 fair market, as is anyone in this business. Taking into 322 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:38.960 consideration food costs and of course, shoplifting in a soft 323 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:42.759 on crime city, New York's immigrant entrepreneurs actually deserve a 324 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.640 fair shape, not the mayor using our tax dollars to 325 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.519 finance government stores that could put them out of business 326 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:53.480 and destroy jobs. Meanwhile, President Trump is moving aggressively to 327 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:57.960 protect consumers from higher energy costs that are derived from 328 00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:02.559 artificial intelligence. President Trump is moving to protect working Americans 329 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:06.680 from being forced to subsidize big text artificial intelligence boom. 330 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.599 The White House has expanded its rate payer protection Pledge, 331 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.559 bringing twenty three governors in nearly two hundred utility companies 332 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:17.799 and data center developers into an agreement design to keep 333 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:22.880 massive new AI facilities from driving up household electricity bills. 334 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:25.799 The principle here is pretty simple. It is that the 335 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:30.000 companies who are building these power hungry data centers should 336 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:33.680 pay the full cost of electricity, the generation, the transmission, 337 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:38.799 the grid upgrades. They require Families, seniors, and small businesses 338 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.799 should not be stuck with the electric bill. President Trump 339 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:44.759 says that America must win the global AI war. He's 340 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:48.599 right about that, especially against communist China. But unlike the 341 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:53.839 Washington establishment's usual approach hand in corporation subsidies and passing 342 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:57.200 the costs down to taxpayers, Trump plans depands that the 343 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:02.200 industry carry its own weight. Expanded pledge reportedly covers utilities 344 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:07.839 responsible for roughly eighty percent of America's electricity distribution. Major 345 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:11.680 companies have committed to build, buying, or bring enough power 346 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:16.200 to support their operations without shifting costs into ordinary customers. 347 00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:18.559 These data centers, by the way, don't have to look 348 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:21.839 into the grid. Elon Musk just paid one billion dollars 349 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:26.119 for a Jacksonville, Florida, bes generation company. There's a number 350 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:30.240 of new startups out there that can produce energy from 351 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:34.599 hydrogen as well as fossil fuels. Is theoretically possible that 352 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:40.359 you could actually fuel one of these data centers without 353 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:43.640 tapping into the grid at all. This pledge by the 354 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:46.319 President is a good start, now must be effectuated by 355 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:50.240 additional measures. In my view, Congress and state regulators should 356 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:54.640 turn these promises into enforceable protections. But President Trump is 357 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:57.200 right for setting an example. He's right. We have to 358 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:01.480 unleash America innovation. We have to expand energy production. We 359 00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:04.720 do need to strengthen the grid, defend consumers from sneaky 360 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:08.759 corporate welfare measures. This is the america first approach to 361 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:13.480 the AI Revolution. Grow the economy, beat China, create jobs, 362 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:15.880 and make sure families don't end up paying the higher 363 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:20.359 electricity bills so big tech can exploit American citizens. Innovation 364 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:24.160 should raise American living standards, but not punish American households 365 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:29.039 with a higher cost of living. Meanwhile, the Democratic socials 366 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.240 of America are no longer hiding their radical leftist agenda 367 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:35.759 that will destroy the rule of law. Their newly released 368 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:41.119 platform calls for dismantling core American institutions and replacing constitutional 369 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:46.240 government would centralized socialist control. The Democrats socialis of America 370 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:49.920 want to abolish the Senate and the Electoral College, replace 371 00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:54.119 the Presidency and the Supreme Court with bodies subordinate to Congress. 372 00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:58.480 They want to eliminate ice. They want to grant mass ambesty, 373 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:03.799 eventually to abolish police departments and prisons entirely. The platform 374 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:09.359 also demands public ownership of America's largest corporations, universal rent control, 375 00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:14.720 taxpayer funded healthcare and college cancellation of student debt and reparations, 376 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:19.799 and a thirty two hour workweek with no reduction in PEG. 377 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:24.039 We've already talked about their demands for free food in 378 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:28.680 the or subsidized food in New York City. On national security, 379 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:33.839 the group proposes defunding the Pentagon, closing overseas military bases, 380 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:38.440 ending all aid to Israel, and weakening immigration force, while 381 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:43.400 extending voting rights to permanent non citizen residents. The Democratic 382 00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:47.839 Socialis American national co chairman Meghan Roemer confirmed these positions 383 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.640 during a television interview, offering Americans a remarkably clear look 384 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.400 at what the socialist movement intends to accomplish. This cannot 385 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:01.440 be dismissed as harmless campus radicalism. The DSA back candidates 386 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:05.119 are increasingly running and winning on Democrat ballot lines and 387 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:07.359 in primaries. It's not just in New York City but 388 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:10.400 across the country as well. We saw a veteran congress 389 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:15.359 congresswoman lose in Colorado only weeks ago. The upcoming mission 390 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:19.440 in Senate primary will tell us much. That means that 391 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.880 every Democrat candidate should be asked whether they support abousing 392 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.799 the Senate, subordinating the Supreme Court, nationalizing major businesses, and 393 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:32.119 eliminating the institutions responsible for enforcing the law and protecting 394 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:38.000 the American people, America's constitutional system, free enterprise, secure borders, 395 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:42.079 a strong military, and equal justice. To me, they're all 396 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.759 worth defending. Only Maga Republicans right now have the courage 397 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.720 to stand for these pillars of civilization during this precarious 398 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.960 time when the extremists are on the march. As I've 399 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.519 said many times, hear in the Stone Zone the old 400 00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:57.960 Democrat Party, the party of John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman. 401 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:02.160