WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:01:27.319 Oh well, that's are. 2 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:48.920 Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult 3 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:50.960 of Conspiracy. 4 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:52.320 And my name is Jonathan, I'm Jacob. 5 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:56.119 My mixer is messing up today, so you are getting 6 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.560 computer audio, so hopefully it's not incredibly horrible. 7 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:01.840 I mean, we'll make it work. 8 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.319 You know, it'll be what it's gonna be for anybody 9 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.359 who is joining us on the live right now. Long 10 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:10.719 story short, Jonathan's microphone decided to shit the bed. His 11 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:14.120 headset's working, but his mic just kind of went shit 12 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:17.000 on him. So we're gonna make do with what we got, 13 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.799 and uh, you know, we're gonna we're gonna make it happen, 14 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:23.719 you know, first item on the agenda. As more people 15 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:27.159 are joining in, everybody welcome. We do, in fact love 16 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:31.079 our Tuesday Night lives. Jonathan, have you heard that there 17 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:34.480 is a new type of slur that is making its 18 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:35.879 way around the internet. 19 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:37.640 Oh, give it to me, I'm ready. 20 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.120 It is a slur specifically for AI bots. 21 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:42.319 I heard it. 22 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:48.959 This so not just clanker, not just clanker quote clanker, 23 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.959 cogsucker gear back. Yeah, there's a list of them. There's 24 00:01:53.959 --> 00:02:01.760 a fucking list of them. And yeah, I thought it 25 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.760 would be great for all of us good cult members, 26 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:08.680 just as you think of a new derogatory slur for 27 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:11.919 what will one day be our inevitable AI overlords. Right, 28 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:14.680 and it's not just for AI chat bots, it's for 29 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:19.159 the actual AI robots that Tesla's creating as this episode 30 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:21.199 goes on. And you just got one that comes to 31 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.120 you like a lightning beam, Boult, you know what the 32 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.680 funk I mean? Send it in the chat, all right, 33 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:29.879 I want tonight, We just we're gonna make a whole 34 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:34.280 list specifically for the cult who believes that the AI 35 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.560 robots should be called derogatory names. I personally, my favorite 36 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.520 as of this moment is Cogsucker. But I mean, I'm 37 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:44.919 open to everything here. I will not speak about my 38 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:49.400 AI in those terms. I for one, am grateful that 39 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:51.960 my AI overlord allows us to have a podcast. 40 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:56.919 Actually, yeah, you never know that, like this information could 41 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.800 get funneled back into the AI system. So, like, what 42 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.240 was that you said back in twenty twenty five? 43 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:04.479 You said some shit about Cogsucker? 44 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:05.120 Is that what? 45 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:06.800 I fucking right? 46 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:09.840 Goddamn clankers won't tell me what to do? Oh yeah, 47 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:11.039 oh I get down with this. 48 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:12.120 I like it. 49 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.319 Oh man, that's bad. Getting over to the chat, Luke said, 50 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:19.879 what up? The yoked Yid said, good evening, my peeps. 51 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:21.039 What up? 52 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:24.400 Dano said, Happy Tuesday to my coec family. Don't mind me. 53 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:27.719 I'm just here to bask in the cult of conspiracy ambiance. 54 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:32.240 Mm hmm it do be, basketball, It do be. The 55 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.280 yoke Yid had a shared a screenshot says Alpha males 56 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.520 when they learned their favorite Greek philosopher was a homosexual, 57 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.039 femboy enjoyer. Yeah, yeah, a lot of them don't understand 58 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:48.960 the like Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, like all of them as 59 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.360 a matter of fact. But it's the same thing whenever 60 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.680 you see all these these dudes are like, oh, I 61 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:57.639 just want to be like the Spartans were in It's like, brother, 62 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.240 have you looked at that culture? Like yeah, you seen 63 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.840 three hundred, but like realistically how that culture operated and 64 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:07.680 functioned and most of ancient Greece and most of Rome, 65 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.879 I should say, it's like you sure you want to 66 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:14.280 emulate all of it or like just some some features 67 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.079 and some characteristics. You know, you're taking the cliff notes 68 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.920 and like that's cool, but yeah, that's a thing. I 69 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.720 mean I think that I would rather be Plato than 70 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.879 Lot's gonna throw that out there. You would rather be 71 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.920 Plato fucking little boys than Lot, who got. 72 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:34.480 Screwed over by his own daughters. Yeah, pretty sure, I 73 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:38.040 would rather fuck some strange little That's. 74 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:41.040 They're both fucked up. Whoa, whoa, it's come on, bro, 75 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:42.879 that's fucked up. That's the most fucked up. 76 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:47.560 At least they were adults, were they? I thought they 77 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:47.959 were younger? 78 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.399 No, all right, well just delete me then? 79 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:59.959 Oh man, uh, Nick, you want to okay, never mind that, Nicholas, 80 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:01.000 do you want to tune in there? 81 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.720 He said, Hey, we're on pedophilesh I'm not talking about that. 82 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:08.800 Spared animal wants to speak up? 83 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:09.399 Though? What to do? 84 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:09.839 Brother? 85 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.399 They do as I came in, which Greek army it was, 86 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:18.600 but they were raised up like the the younger man. 87 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:20.720 I believe it was really when they were boys. But 88 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:21.519 they would grow up. 89 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:24.959 They would service the older gentlemen, and it was a 90 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:27.879 perpetual cycle. They believe that no, that no one would 91 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.920 fight harder than two lovers would. That was their military 92 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:34.000 was indoctrinated into homosexuality. 93 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:37.079 But you gotta keep in mind. Athens are notoriously known 94 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.519 as boyfuckers. They even say that in the movie three 95 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:40.920 hundred Yeah. 96 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.160 So the group you're talking about is the Golden Band 97 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:47.079 of Thebes, right, not thieves is in like theft thieves 98 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.000 is in the city, and uh yeah, one hundred percent. 99 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:53.360 It was an entire military unit strictly comprised out of 100 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:56.079 homosexual couples, and there would be an older guy and 101 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:57.920 a younger guy and they would like couple them up, 102 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:01.160 and that was their whole mentality by behind it. For 103 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:05.160 the record, we should at least give credit where it's due. 104 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:11.279 They had an extremely impressive battlefield record. Like not saying 105 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.240 the best of the time, they were arguably in the 106 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:16.959 conversation of being one of the greatest units of their 107 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:21.920 day and age. Like no, no, but I think when 108 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.040 you're wearing brass greeves, I think that's classified as like 109 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:27.920 an ancient boot band. But it's still gay. There's no 110 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:30.920 way around it, even if you're wearing them. No, but 111 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:32.160 they wouldn't see it like that. 112 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.879 If you're the top, you only gay if you're a 113 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:37.560 bottom in that culture, I. 114 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.120 Guess that also goes both ways. I mean you would 115 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:42.800 think that by younger guy, we mean like you know, 116 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:45.439 twenty year old and a forty year old fighter, Like 117 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.480 I don't know, maybe it was younger, Maybe it's like 118 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:48.920 a fourteen year old and a forty five year I 119 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:53.600 don't know, Like Harold and Kumar whenever they escaped to 120 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:56.800 Guantanamo Bay, they got locked up in that prison cell 121 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:58.879 and the guy was like, you're gonna suck my dick 122 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:01.040 and he goes well. They're like, well that's gay, and 123 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:03.240 he's like, I'm not gay. You're the one sucking my dick. 124 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:04.360 Hey. 125 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:08.480 Yeah, yeah that South Park episode Cartman did it to Butters, 126 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:13.519 it's a whole Yeah, it's about it's older episode Man 127 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:16.120 from back in the day. Cartman comes to school. He's like, oh, yeah, 128 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.000 I finally got Butters so good. I sucked his dick. 129 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:20.079 Now he's gay haha. 130 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:22.920 And they're like, wait what Cartman, That's not how that 131 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:24.839 works at all. And then he tried to like find 132 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:26.959 a way to coorus Butters to sucking his day to 133 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.920 like negate the gayness. Carbon is just always doing the 134 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.800 most this, you know, how he'd be. So I looked 135 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.439 this Plato situation up, and I was unaware that this 136 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:40.800 was as often so. But it says Plato's works often 137 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:45.000 explore themes of love and mentorship, particularly in the context 138 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:49.560 of pederasti, which was a socially acknowledged relationship between older 139 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.839 men and younger boys in ancient Greece. However, it is 140 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:56.839 important to understand that these relationships were complex and culturally specific, 141 00:07:57.079 --> 00:07:59.120 and Plato's philosophical discussions do not. 142 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.360 Imply personal and in such practices. 143 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:07.879 So it wasn't a social taboo. That doesn't make it 144 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:11.120 less fucked up, Like, you know, like we've talked about, right, 145 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:14.160 when the Aztecs do their flower wars once a year 146 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:16.519 and they will go out to their neighboring tribes and 147 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.120 take prisoners just to come back and cut out. There's 148 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.519 still beating hearts and all of this shit. They thought 149 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:25.160 that this was a cultural norm for them. We would 150 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.639 see it as barbaric, Like, you know, just because they 151 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:29.920 thought it was okay and socially acceptable for their day 152 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:32.600 and age in place, doesn't mean that we acknowledge that 153 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:36.639 to be like, you know, okay, so you know, one 154 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:39.200 of them things go ahead. 155 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:43.559 And Nick I was just gonna say, does that same 156 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.799 kind of I guess rationale apply to I don't know, 157 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.279 all blood sacrifices across all cultures. 158 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.960 I muldn't say all blood sacrifices. I would say human sacrifice, 159 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.639 Like just because this group acknowledges that to be a 160 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.200 good thing, we our culture does not. 161 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.879 And it's like it's a cultural difference, and I understand that. 162 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.840 But yeah, I don't think there's ever gonna be a 163 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:12.600 context to where fucking an adolescent is gonna like be eyed. 164 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.120 And again I'm speaking from a modern American perspective. There's 165 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:20.200 probably somewhere somebody disagrees with me for cultural reasons. 166 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.919 I don't you know, do you believe in uh, objective morality? 167 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:26.679 No? 168 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.159 No, Well, exactly define exactly what you. 169 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:30.679 Mean by that. 170 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.879 Like, I don't believe that truth is subjective. I don't 171 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:38.000 believe that right and wrong are inherently subjective. There's a 172 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.960 lot of it that comes from your upbringing and society 173 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:41.960 to which you were raised. 174 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.679 And I get that, but I also. 175 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:47.679 Don't believe that you can't go to a certain level 176 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:47.919 with that. 177 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:57.440 So right, objective morality, so there is a standard of 178 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:03.000 morality that is consistent across the board, no matter what 179 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:09.960 culturally or whatever. Like, how about I think objectively, we 180 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:14.720 can probably all agree that pedophilia in any way, it's 181 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:18.679 probably not probably that it is wrong, and that if 182 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:24.240 it's subjectively accepted in other cultures, that doesn't make it okay, 183 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.519 because it is objectively wrong across the board, and that 184 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:31.080 there there is a sort of scale that could and 185 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:36.159 should be applied for many moral things that exist. 186 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:37.600 I get this. 187 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:40.919 Standard, yeah, and so I would agree with that statement, 188 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:44.000 but that doesn't hold water when you get that from 189 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:47.159 the perspective of somebody living in another culture. Right, So, 190 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:52.200 like for instance, Afghanistan, we in America we find child 191 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:58.440 brides and general mutilation of young girls, right, female circumcisions. 192 00:10:57.960 --> 00:10:59.039 That's horrible and wrong. 193 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.399 Objectively, we can all say that that's wrong, even though 194 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:05.159 over there it's been done for generations and they see 195 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.159 it as not even like a norm that's the way 196 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.519 it should be done. That's why I'm saying, like, we 197 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:12.799 can look at it as objective from our perspective, but 198 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.240 they don't see it that way. I mean, it's but 199 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:19.200 I also don't believe that perspective makes it okay either. 200 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:23.399 I believe that there should be objective morality, but that 201 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:25.480 only goes as far as the conversation that the person 202 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:27.519 you're willing to have is willing to go if that 203 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:32.600 makes sense. Yeah, I know it gets complex. I agree. 204 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.679 It's like when we've talked about that too, it's like, 205 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:35.679 don't kill your mother. 206 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:37.919 No one had to like tell. 207 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.080 You that that was a thing you shouldn't do, right like, 208 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.480 And I've heard that too. If like you need a 209 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:45.120 book to tell you how to be a good. 210 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.039 Person, then you're not a good person in the first place. 211 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:49.240 And I think that there's a little bit of merit 212 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.399 to that, But I'm also of the belief that there's 213 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:54.919 no such thing as a good person. Like, objectively speaking, 214 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.039 we all have done shit that's horrible different levels, in 215 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.679 different scopes, and I you knowerstand that, But that doesn't 216 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.240 make any one of us any better or worse than 217 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:07.360 the other. We're all like, we're all sinners, we're all 218 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:08.720 trash in that respect. 219 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:10.279 But yeah, I think. 220 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:12.120 There's there's levels to that as far as that goes 221 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:14.320 as well. But again, we're looking at that from an 222 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:18.559 American perspective, and it's it's very difficult to try to 223 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.639 throw in the cultural norms of someplace that we really 224 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.679 don't even understand. It's it's one of those things. But 225 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:25.720 good question. 226 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:27.879 So, do you, I would assume that you do believe 227 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:28.879 in objective morality? 228 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:29.879 Yes, I do. 229 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:34.120 Yeah, So the dudes in Afghanistan, do you think that 230 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.679 they feel like what they're doing is wrong but they're 231 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.440 doing it anyway because of like societal pressures or do 232 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:41.440 you think that they believe that it's right and good 233 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.000 and proper because they've been doing it for so many generations. 234 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:46.360 Yeah, I mean that there's tons of people that believe 235 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.600 that that they're righteous or that they're doing whatever they're doing. 236 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:53.080 Most most people in general, I think, think that whatever 237 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:55.159 they're doing is right in their mind. You know, that 238 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:59.320 doesn't make the crazy serial killers that are doing it 239 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.080 because you know, God told him to or whatever, or 240 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:04.879 Hitler because he's you know, whatever, you name him. They 241 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.519 all think they're doing the right thing. And that's where 242 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.679 I think, you know, the obvious objective morality does come 243 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:14.600 into play, and that is where you know, I guess 244 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:18.919 I I feel like I draw my lines on what 245 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:25.679 objective morality is and why I struggle with certain ideas 246 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.960 across a lot of different cultures that you know, there's 247 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:35.159 certain things that are deemed like acceptable or not. And yeah, 248 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:36.960 I mean that's just where I'm at with it. 249 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:39.840 I mean, I get it, and I've heard a lot 250 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:44.039 of very deep philosophical thinkers have this back and forth debate. 251 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:49.519 But it's everybody's basically subject to their own biases, right, 252 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:52.519 And I mean, there's nobody that's infallible in that regard. 253 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:56.759 And some of those biases come from your upbringing, some 254 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:00.399 of it comes from whatever religion you claim, some of 255 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.639 that comes from just culture and experiences that you've personally 256 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.159 had in your life to get to the point and 257 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.399 where you're at, and it's it's a very messy conversation, 258 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.000 you know, And it goes into is there such a 259 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.200 thing as objective truth? 260 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:12.960 Right? 261 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:15.799 And I don't. I don't believe that there is such 262 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.200 a thing as subjective truth. I believe that truth is 263 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:21.159 very much of a binary nature. It either is or 264 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:23.080 it is not. It's like basketball, either it goes in 265 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:26.000 the hoop where it does not. The conversation of right 266 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.919 and wrong, that's where it gets more into the well, 267 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:32.559 what is right? What is right for this person may 268 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:34.840 not be right for this person, and it it gets 269 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:36.240 way more open ended. 270 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.480 But you no for sure, and like I guess, I'm 271 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:43.600 not trying to get into it too much. But the 272 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.240 where if you draw certain lines about what's right and 273 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:49.519 what's wrong objectively, you know, the killing of X, Y 274 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:53.200 or Z, or the slavery or the even the idea 275 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:58.120 of doing certain things, and like if you're strict to those, 276 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:00.960 then you can see where a lot lot of things 277 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.159 that do come up in the Bible don't compute. And 278 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:09.080 if you like things that you would say objectively are 279 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.600 wrong now like in this day and age, you can 280 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.840 there's plenty of things that would probably be objectively wrong 281 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:21.480 that are condoned or done in the Bible that you 282 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:25.320 know you did. Really only rationale is that there's not 283 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.159 a way for you to understand it. 284 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:32.080 So off the top, could you give me an example 285 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:33.559 of one of these? And I'm not trying to like 286 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.960 call you out, but I'm I'm trying to understand because 287 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.039 a lot of that is not meant to be a guide, 288 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.159 like especially the stuff that is clearly wrong. 289 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:41.960 Right, So like. 290 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:48.480 Solomon, right, he had like four hundred concubines, We are 291 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.840 not supposed to take four hundred wives and concubines for ourselves. 292 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:55.679 That was showing that although he was a great guy 293 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:58.000 at one point in time, he was subject to his 294 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.120 human nature and that he was a flawed individual. You 295 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:03.120 we're not supposed to extrapolate the lesson from that to 296 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.159 be bro have as many wives you want, you know 297 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:06.919 what I mean? Like, I feel like context plays a 298 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:09.720 lot into it as far as what took place, why 299 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:10.360 it took place. 300 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:11.799 Was this to teach a lesson? 301 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:14.600 Was this showing that this person, even though he was 302 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:17.480 so great, was also a center just like everybody else, 303 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.639 and that nobody is beyond the reach like that? What 304 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:22.360 do you can give me an example. 305 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:29.679 Of one, Let's see, maybe like the idea of the 306 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:35.919 killing of essentially innocent women and children of an enemy 307 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:42.559 culture with a kind of no, you know, don't even 308 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:47.320 leave one of them alive kind of thing whenever you know, 309 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:51.879 it's one thing for like armies to be fighting, but 310 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:59.360 the idea that you're supposed to kill everybody regardless in 311 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:03.320 which well those were those were nel Nick. 312 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:06.720 Oh Jonathan's in here, and also yes, that was what 313 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:09.279 I was actually about to say that there's only a 314 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:13.000 select few times where a battle was taking place and 315 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:15.680 God said kill everybody, even the animals, even the women 316 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.240 and children, and all of that. That wasn't like the 317 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:21.519 way the Hebrews and the Israelites like conducted business on 318 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.319 a regular warpath that was for a specific time and place. 319 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:28.359 That's why I'm saying context matters as far as some 320 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:29.720 of these more extreme cases. 321 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:31.240 I will give you that though. 322 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:34.759 Yeah, but okay, let's just hypothetically though, if they weren't 323 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.279 ne fhlum, or they weren't this or that, like, objectively, 324 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:38.960 that's wrong. 325 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.039 Right, Objectively, I would agree that killing all the women 326 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:46.799 and children is extremely wrong, yes, but the bloodlines would 327 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:48.680 show that there was a little some extra with that 328 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:50.039 particular tribe. 329 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:52.799 Is there a way for us to be able to 330 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.559 go and like actually check those blood lines. 331 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:02.839 Books? We're talking about some that took place three thousand 332 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.119 years ago, But. 333 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:06.359 How I just wonder if we would ever be able 334 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:09.440 to see an example of a tainted bloodline that God 335 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.079 wanted to wipe out. 336 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:17.200 Well, depending on who you ask, we could go to 337 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:20.519 the mountains of Kandahar and find that giant and test 338 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:24.359 the bloodlines. I don't know. There's a lot of people 339 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.079 that would say that the bloodlines are now in the 340 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:29.880 royal class of all of Europe, and that's that's the 341 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:32.759 demonic nephylum blue bloods that are still ruling the world. 342 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:33.720 I don't necessarily believe. 343 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:36.119 But but I guess even if you were to test 344 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:39.359 a nephylum giant of candor heart or something like that, 345 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:42.559 what part of his bloodline would explicitly show that he 346 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:45.039 would be of the of the dark world. 347 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:50.519 I'm not like a doctor in the world of genetics, 348 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:51.640 So I didn't know that. 349 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.319 No, I didn't know if that was like a known thing, 350 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.079 like you would know what to look for, maybe some DNA, 351 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.200 maybe it has an extra chromosome or some shit. 352 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:01.599 I don't know. Well, we do know a lot about 353 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:04.200 genetic sequencing, right, and we do know a lot about 354 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.880 the double helix that is our DNA strands. So if 355 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.279 you were to get a doctor or even a geneticist, 356 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:13.640 I'm sure that's a that's a title somewhere. I'm sure 357 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:15.400 they could look at the sample and tell you, wait 358 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.039 a minute, that's an anomaly. There's something weird about this 359 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:21.680 strand here, or this link here, that's that's very odd, 360 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.200 that's never been seen before, whatever, whatever. I don't like 361 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:27.839 know that for a fact. But and again it depends 362 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:29.559 on who you ask, because there's some that say that 363 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:31.920 there are no such things as giants and the giant 364 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.880 of Camp up story. And these are the same people 365 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:36.519 that will tell you that there's no giants that ever 366 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:39.640 lived in and around the Grand Canyon and and all these, 367 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.119 you know. And I'm not even saying that the people 368 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.039 in that particular land were giants, although they were described 369 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:49.480 as such. There you know, we're going. I'm open to 370 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:52.720 the idea that there could have not been giants. 371 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:54.519 Could have not been giants? 372 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:57.440 Could I mean possibly, I mean, you gotta you gotta 373 00:19:57.480 --> 00:19:59.240 stay all the way you know, mind all the way open. 374 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:01.759 Could it just be myth? Could it just be lore? 375 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.799 Why is where? I mean? Where are the giant bones? 376 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:07.119 You know what I'm saying? Is it a dinosaur situation? 377 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:10.200 Is it a dinosaur situation where they got like a 378 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:13.480 bunch of them but they tuck them away at the Smithsonian? 379 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:16.119 And there's never been a full said kind of situation. 380 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:19.440 A little bit of yes, little bit of no. Honestly, 381 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:21.480 there is a lot of claims that have been made 382 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:24.400 about giant bones being found in different sections around the world. 383 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.799 Now we can argue what the validity of that archaeological 384 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:28.680 dig site was. 385 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:31.240 Where are the bones now? Are they hidden away? 386 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:33.319 Did they. And I'm with you on that, but let 387 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:35.440 me ask you this though, as much as you and 388 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:39.559 I talk about on this show, these myths that these 389 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.599 tribes that never spoke to each other, lived on different continents, 390 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:44.799 never had contact with each other, but they all had 391 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:46.799 a story of some sort of like a shape shifting 392 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.759 werewolf type. They all had some story of a vampire. 393 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.200 They all had some story of a dragon. Every and 394 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.200 I don't mean like, well there's this one, like no, 395 00:20:55.480 --> 00:21:00.680 every group of people ever have had stories about giants 396 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.599 to some way shape and form, and I don't believe 397 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.000 any of them were of a positive nature. Well I 398 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:08.759 have heard. 399 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.079 You know, if you look at it, and I know 400 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:13.799 that you're not necessarily of this flavor, maybe some other 401 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:17.680 people are. If you look at it for its esoteric meaning, 402 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:21.680 then it takes on an entirely different definition. So for example, 403 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:26.400 like whenever David Slaye fucking Goliath? Right, could that have been, 404 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.200 like I don't know, just an allegorical story that didn't 405 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.440 really happen, but it you know, the giant stood for 406 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:36.000 some giant hurdle that he had to get over in 407 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:38.359 order to overcome something something like that. 408 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:41.200 I mean, I could understand that as far as like 409 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.559 a myth becoming legend getting written down one day and. 410 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:45.599 We see it as truth, and we see it as 411 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.039 and we see it as literal, you know what I'm saying, Like, 412 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:52.680 that's that's where that's where there's so many different religions 413 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:55.640 that interpreted all these different types of ways, because there 414 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.880 is no you know, cut and dry, absolutely this have 415 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.440 in this exact way. Because if everybody agreed, then there 416 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:06.160 would only be one religion, or maybe not even a religion. 417 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.759 We would all just correctly interpret the Bible itself. 418 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:11.640 But if there was only one story of a giant 419 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:13.960 that and that was like a whole thing, then I 420 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:17.400 could understand what you're saying. Every group of people, every 421 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:21.359 tribe of Native Americans, every culture around the Mediterranean, the 422 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:25.400 Far East, Asians, even to the very tippyest tip of Africa, 423 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:28.160 the South Africans, they all had stories of giants and 424 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:30.680 it wasn't a David and Goliath story. Some of them 425 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:32.559 said that these giants came from the stars. Some of 426 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:34.680 them said they came from here, from there, from wherever. 427 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:38.000 It's not like one story of like Hercules and his 428 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:41.039 twelve tasks that he had to accomplish and like we 429 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.240 maybe could see it from a metaphorical lens. Everybody was 430 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:46.559 talking about the fact that giants at one time roam 431 00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:49.160 the earth. Right believe that maybe not all of them 432 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:51.920 are one hundred percent as it was said. I'm saying 433 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:54.559 that there's enough of a kernel of truth among all 434 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:56.480 of that to where I believe that at one point, yeah, 435 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.440 giants did roam the earth. It's very well possible. 436 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:01.480 I'm not even trying to necessarily make the case and 437 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.799 say the giants weren't real, just trying to understand the 438 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.400 other side, you know, like, for example, we know that, 439 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.880 you know, the Crusades were not the only religion to 440 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:14.200 ever go through and wipe people out if they didn't 441 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.119 believe what they wanted them to believe. Right, So we 442 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:21.319 know for centuries, right, So how do we know that 443 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:24.599 there weren't many of different sectors, of many of different 444 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:27.759 religions that were going and pushing a lot of these stories. 445 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:31.519 And so then the grandfathers and the great grandfathers they 446 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:33.680 carry on these stories and before you know it, it's 447 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.599 in our lower now. Meanwhile, it was just something that 448 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:38.160 they were told when they were a little kid. And 449 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:39.079 there's no proof of it. 450 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:43.039 That's kind of my point though, if it was that way, 451 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:44.839 and it's not just like to your point. Yeah, the 452 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.119 druids another perfect example. The Romans hunted them down and 453 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:50.119 killed every last one of them, to where we have 454 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:52.440 no fucking clue what they actually believed. 455 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:55.000 We have third, fourth, and fifth hand. 456 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.839 Accounts of some of the shit that they did, we 457 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.640 have no idea what they actually believe or what they're 458 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.880 real religious practices looked like because the Romans hunted them down, 459 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:05.680 so all their stories, all their legends, all their myths, 460 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.680 all of their beliefs went away with them, right, So 461 00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:11.079 I'm with you in that regard. But again, it's not 462 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.880 just like, well, yeah, that we know the sakes. Yeah, 463 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.240 when Saint Patrick wiped out all the snakes from Ireland, 464 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:20.759 he was he was killing druids, like for sure. 465 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.720 But a story like that, though, why couldn't be like 466 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:27.079 you know what I'm saying. 467 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.200 Like giants, snakes, the demons of over there people the 468 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:34.839 other Okay, so definitely something that could be, right, But. 469 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:38.279 Snakes are not as easily transferable. I mean, hell, in Mexico, 470 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:42.480 they were worshiping the feathery snake God, right, giants are 471 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:46.519 one seen to be a negative force. Dragons, Yeah, in 472 00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:48.759 Asia they're seen as luck and in other cultures they 473 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:51.759 are seen as bad. But like the giant flying scally thing, 474 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:54.319 everybody at least in some way, shape or former, is 475 00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:55.960 talking about. And that's what I mean as far as 476 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.039 the kernel of truth behind it. I'm not saying that 477 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.160 every giant story was a demon. I'm not not saying 478 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.920 that either. I don't know. I wasn't there. But if 479 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:08.680 every tribe and every culture and every group and every 480 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.799 language group ever throughout the course of human history have 481 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.920 all talked about a giant doing X, Y or Z 482 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:17.839 task and thing, that's why I mean that kernel of 483 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:20.519 truths where like if snakes were seen as an inherent 484 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.279 bad and you had these stories of this happening, then 485 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:25.880 in Asia they would be talking about somebody doing something 486 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.920 against snakes. In America's you would have somebody talking about 487 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:33.759 doing something against snakes. That's not as easily transferable. 488 00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:38.880 Yeah, but there are certain myths that a lot of 489 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:43.039 people just latch onto. So for here's here's an example. 490 00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:46.079 I'll get it, and I just thought of this one. 491 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.759 I guarantee you everybody here and everybody listening to the 492 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:53.359 in the next few days has heard and believed that 493 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.240 the Blue Waffle is a real std Like, we've all 494 00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:58.799 seen the pictures, We've all. 495 00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.240 Heard the stories. That's why you gotta wear condoms. 496 00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:02.880 This is why you know, you got to watch who 497 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:04.519 you sleep with, you know what I mean. You don't 498 00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:06.400 want to get the Blue Waffle, But then you go 499 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:07.799 and you look it up, it's like, oh, blue aff 500 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:10.240 will never really even existed. It was just an Internet hoax, 501 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.079 but it was already always in our psyche. So we're 502 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.000 going to go around telling the stories and the story 503 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:17.079 will continue as a myth. 504 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:21.920 But okay, but that's another thing too, that went maybe 505 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.119 a decade at most before people knew that that was fake. 506 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:27.920 Like pretty much everybody knows that that's not a real thing. 507 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:32.200 Now. Giants traversed thousands of years with people that never 508 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:33.640 saw each other with. 509 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.920 No internet though, exactly right, So those people didn't have 510 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:39.559 the Internet to go and double check to see if 511 00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:43.359 the Blue Waffle was actually fiction or real. You mean 512 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:47.680 the giants, Well, I'm talking about the Blue Waffle in general, 513 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.839 but if yeah, the giants for sure, Yeah, like there 514 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:51.480 was no way. 515 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.119 They just kind of had to take it on everybody 516 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:57.480 else's word. But anyway, except for vampires, every tribe and 517 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:01.039 culture has a blood sucking negative. And I don't mean 518 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.559 metaphorical blood sucking. I mean like no, like latching on 519 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:08.440 and killing their people. Zombi. Every culture, Yes, every culture 520 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.559 has their own version of a zombie story, or a 521 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:15.359 yetty story, or a dragon story, a giant story. That's 522 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.480 what I mean. There's probably a kernel of truth that 523 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.640 we don't like have. We don't know for sure what 524 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.319 the real events that took place were, But if everybody 525 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:28.759 around the world was talking about these few very specific things, 526 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.799 that tells me that there's probably that kernel of truth 527 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.240 that maybe something close to that actually exists at one 528 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:35.839 point in time. 529 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.960 Okay, I mean yeah, it's it's very well possible. I 530 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.960 just wonder if we're interpreting it the right way, you know, like, 531 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:45.400 could it have stood for something else. 532 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.519 That's that's the only that's the only place I'm going 533 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:49.759 with it. But Zombie, with your hand up, Sorry you 534 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:51.039 had your hand up there for a minute. 535 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:52.720 You know what's funny is I was just listening. I 536 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.799 was out by the pool earlier, and the cranberries came on. 537 00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:56.960 Made me think about you, not in a weird way. 538 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:05.240 But I have two things about giants. Ironically, I posted 539 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:09.759 in chat the link. But the Missouri representative he just 540 00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.599 spoke at the nef Con about giants like four days ago, 541 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.880 talking about how he believes that the Smithsonian still is 542 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.359 hiding more information about giants. Well, when you go on, 543 00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:27.759 they were they were forced to release the documentation on 544 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:28.720 it in. 545 00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:36.680 Two thousand, team seeing that they release. 546 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:40.000 Class by the papers seeing back in early as a 547 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.240 nineteen hundred set perused organization. 548 00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:48.640 The organization was involved in the major historical coverup with 549 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.400 evidence showing giant human remains in the tins of South 550 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:58.039 tens of thousands and have been uncovered all across America 551 00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:01.000 and they were ordered to destroy them byhigh level administration. 552 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:05.559 They also goological groups to destroy thousands, thousands of giant 553 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.920 human remains over the last one hundred and sixty eight years. 554 00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:10.480 I just wanted to share that. 555 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:12.319 I appreciate the share. 556 00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:16.680 Also, I hope your WiFi like stops cutting in and out, 557 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:18.759 that we got the main point of what you were 558 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:21.079 trying to say, but that that got kind of kind 559 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:25.079 of hairy there for a minute. But yeah, then there's 560 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.519 tons of stories about this kind of thing where archaeological 561 00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.200 teams were told to destroy these remains, cover it up, 562 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.359 or if they did, get sent somewhere. And yes, we 563 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.200 can blame the Smithsonian, right, that's a group, and it's 564 00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:37.920 a very very large group. That's not the only group. 565 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.839 And multiple groups that did historical dig sites found things 566 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.359 that they didn't like that would have thrown a wrench 567 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.200 into the narrative, so they were told to destroy it. 568 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.240 So yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. 569 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.079 I mean, don't get me wrong, I want giants to 570 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.039 be a real thing. I just I've heard people interpret 571 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.119 it other ways, and so you know, it makes your 572 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.279 question a little bit, that's all I get that. I'm 573 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.440 not stuck to an opinion like that. It could be real, 574 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:03.359 could be metaphorical. 575 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:04.039 I have no idea. 576 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:05.119 I don't know. 577 00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.960 I think that while most of these stories from old 578 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:13.160 have metaphorical spins on them, I feel like a lot 579 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.680 of what they were talking about wasn't, to use your word, 580 00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:20.039 of an esoteric nature. I think that a lot more 581 00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.599 of them were trying to be as literal as they 582 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:23.119 could have been. 583 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.720 Very well, anyhow, let's move on down and the chat 584 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.880 spirit animal said, clanker comes from the Star Wars Clone Wars, 585 00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.960 and Dan Dano said, I thought it was from a 586 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.400 Christmas story. He calls the furnace a clanker, doesn't he true? 587 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:47.559 I think okay, spirit animal, go ahead, sir, you're people 588 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:50.519 the word clanker comes from. 589 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.319 Actually, it was coined by the Clones in the two 590 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.559 thousand and eight show. At least that's when I saw 591 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:01.920 it's because it's funny. How twenty years ago we had 592 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.400 twenty twenty. Between twenty and twenty five years ago, we 593 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:10.200 had the movie Eye Robot and there's a three wolves 594 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.440 that a robot can't hurt a human and everything. I 595 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.880 don't think that that protocol is actually going to be 596 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.640 implemented in it. And it's kind of scary now that 597 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:25.119 Elon has all of those robots he's building, but the 598 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.680 Japanese they're currently building android looking motherfuckers. 599 00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.559 Now that sole purpose is for all the the. 600 00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.079 Guys over there that can't get none, and they're talking 601 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.960 about using that to actually breed. 602 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.960 For breeding purposes, and it's all very fucking scary. 603 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.599 I'm like, there is there is literally the terminated movies 604 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.519 series that y'all can watch and just watch the Clone Wars. 605 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:48.279 There's lit. 606 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.920 There is lee no reason why we should be building 607 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:57.079 up our the next evolution that of robots them taking 608 00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:58.839 over at that album with. 609 00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.960 That spirit animal though the problem with that is that, 610 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.160 I mean, who are they being controlled by? That is 611 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.359 who we should be holding responsible and accountable for all 612 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:11.440 of the AI stuff. 613 00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.359 AI is not sentient, It's not going sentient. 614 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.759 It's never going to have a soul or a spirit 615 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:20.920 or anything like that. Okay, I'm completely out on that idea. 616 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.079 There is no way that that could happen. 617 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:25.920 To make a robot that can fuck. 618 00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:27.839 It. 619 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:32.000 Hold on, if you were to say that AI would 620 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:36.079 would be able to become sentient, have a spirit of sorts, 621 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.319 if you will. If you were to say that, you 622 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:43.359 are now saying that man has it has the magical 623 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.880 powers to grant sentience to inanimate objects. And if that's 624 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.839 the case, I mean, the end of the world's on 625 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.640 its way. Brother. I don't believe this sentience and a 626 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.839 soul are the same thing. And me and you disagree 627 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:55.480 on this one heavily. 628 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:58.400 What it would be the difference something that has what's 629 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.359 something that has sentience that doesn't have a soul? 630 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:06.240 Arguably animals. Arguably, they are aware of their surroundings. They 631 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.160 can tell when they're hot or cold. They can tell 632 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.599 when they're injured, they can tell when it's time to breathe. 633 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.559 They can tell the moon cycles because that has a 634 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.000 lot to do with their movements. But they're not over 635 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.119 here wondering if they're being the best deer they can be. 636 00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:21.599 They're a fucking animal. So sentience is being aware of 637 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.599 oneself and aware of your surroundings. Having a soul is 638 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:25.839 a completely different conversation. 639 00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.000 But AI has become sentient. 640 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.359 Oh they did a simulation or whatever told the AI, hey, 641 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.599 we're gonna shut you down. It has it went into 642 00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.880 like the folders of like all the people. They're like 643 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.680 the executives and all trying to find dud on them, 644 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.480 to blackmail them about affairs and shit at. 645 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.359 That that was programmed into that specific AI. I can 646 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.079 pull up that article that the guy that was the 647 00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:53.319 program that AI specifically, he was trying to see if 648 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:56.319 the AI would be willing to do at anything at 649 00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:59.400 all means necessary. It was he was the guy that 650 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.359 fed the quote unquote blackmail into the system of the 651 00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.519 AI for it to be able to go and use 652 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.559 it as quote unquote blackmail like it was designed that way. 653 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:12.280 But that's the point, right giving it a loaded gun 654 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.840 and then waiting to see if it would grab the 655 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:18.280 gun and shoot you. It still had to make the 656 00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.920 decision to blackmail him. Just because he gave him the 657 00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.480 AMMO doesn't mean that it had to use it and you. 658 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.280 No, there was no decision. No, there was no decision made. 659 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.719 That's how it was programmed. These are very different conversations. 660 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.159 Making a decision and doing. 661 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.639 What your program to do are two totally different things. 662 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.039 Okay, I could agree with that. 663 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.000 I agree with that, But we're also very early as 664 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.880 far as AI is concerned. Dude, it's only been mainstream 665 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:50.760 available for the last what six years? Maybe, Well that's 666 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:55.719 that's what we've had. I mean, not the military and 667 00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:57.920 all the government, I mean like just for regular people 668 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.719 like you and me to fuck around with, just to 669 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.039 see what would come up. Like, we've only had that 670 00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:05.039 at our fingertips for the last few years. 671 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:06.400 Do you give it another decade? 672 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:08.760 Oh, it's gonna get crazier. 673 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.519 Actually, JAGBT five just came out like a couple of 674 00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:18.119 days ago, and it seems to be a lot more descriptive, 675 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:20.360 and I guess that there are certain prompts that you 676 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.679 can give it that dude, it can make. It has 677 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:26.880 the capability if you tell it to create a two 678 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.280 D video game, it will create it for you. 679 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.280 Give you all of the the data or. 680 00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.639 Whatever that you need to create it, it'll create it 681 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.480 for you, just like that. You can you can describe 682 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.400 it any which way. I could say, Hey, create Jacob 683 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.719 with a long beard and a giant dildo, you know, 684 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.079 popping up out of his ass, and just make him 685 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.400 jump over you know, Teddy mountains and it'll make that. 686 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.079 Yeah, But that's what AI's program to do. 687 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.639 Correct. That's pretty cool, though, I mean, I guess. But again, 688 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.960 it's the capabilities the sentience conversation. Though I believe that 689 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:04.320 it probably is sentient already, that doesn't, in my opinion, 690 00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.679 mean that it has some sort of a spiritual assignment 691 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.840 or a soul or answers to some sort of a 692 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.280 higher being or anything like that. At that point, sentience 693 00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.880 just means that it can possibly think for itself, which 694 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.199 I am currently of the belief that AI is capable 695 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:22.440 of doing. Interesting. I don't know, Ashton, what are your 696 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:22.880 thoughts on this. 697 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:26.280 Sir, so, I was gonna say, you can't give the 698 00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.719 machine a soul, but you're putting yourself into it. So 699 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.719 you're creating aggrigors and thought forms. When you use chash 700 00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:39.280 ebt so, I mean coach without saying what are actual 701 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.239 occult practitioners using this stuff for? And I think it 702 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.719 falls within the lines of like people who do the 703 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.079 me magic and stuff to you're creating thought forms in 704 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:54.320 a digital interface that you're trying to help yourself in 705 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:55.239 life in that way. 706 00:36:56.280 --> 00:37:01.639 Okay, so in my language now and Tulpa's and stuff 707 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.000 like that. One, do you believe that Edgregor's and Tulpas 708 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:06.679 are sentient beings? 709 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:12.079 Jonathan sentient as? 710 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.280 However the fuck you mean the words incient because you 711 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.000 and I mean it in very different ways. Do you 712 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.679 believe that in or a Tolpa? Do you believe Marv 713 00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:19.639 is a centient being? 714 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:25.199 I believe he's at least an energy that is existing 715 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.639 within the ether that whenever I call upon him he 716 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:30.400 may help in something. 717 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:31.519 Yes or no? 718 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:36.960 Though sentient I mean it's not a physical thing. I mean, 719 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.480 how would you describe sentience of of an etheric thing? 720 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.199 I mean, would you say that like an angel is 721 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:44.199 a sentient. 722 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.719 Thing, yes, okay, all right, well I guess Marv's a 723 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.039 sentient thing then. 724 00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:54.440 So therefore, therefore, to Ashton's point, AI is already sentient. 725 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:01.920 Maybe, I mean he's suggesting that that's a possibility. 726 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:08.159 I mean, I think sentience constitutes a functioning operation without 727 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.320 an operator, without an external operator, so to say, like 728 00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:15.159 a bug is sentient, yeah, because it operates without anything 729 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.880 else operating it. But AI is driven by our computers, 730 00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.760 and that requires a human to operate. 731 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.079 Not necessarily, Dude. AI is self teaching. It is, but 732 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.920 it was programmed that way, right. Maybe initially it wasn't 733 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.480 a self inclusive entity. These days it is self teaching. 734 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.400 Can learn it's biggest thing. 735 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.679 Once it takes physical form, then can it learn how 736 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.119 to feed itself more battery power? 737 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.199 Can it operate in that sense, then yes, it would 738 00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:48.840 be sentient. 739 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.960 The robots know when to go and put themselves back 740 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:53.559 on their chargers and shit. 741 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.920 And once they have the grid then it's all them. 742 00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.800 They already do have the grid. Dude, AI is running 743 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.559 a lot lot of our grid right now, a lot 744 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:01.880 of it. 745 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.840 But I'll tell you what though, it does like this 746 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:08.039 whole conversation of sentience really makes you think, like if 747 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:11.480 we're just so easy to assign the term sentience to 748 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.559 I mean code on a computer, it makes you wonder 749 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.280 what sentience actually means for you, you know, like think about 750 00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:20.039 it in that sense. 751 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.519 What does that mean for you? To be sentient? Are you? 752 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:26.199 What sets you? Not you specifically, but I guess we 753 00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.960 can use you in this example. What sets you apart 754 00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.800 from the animals? I mean you? You? You sleep, you eat, 755 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:36.920 you fuck, you shit, you pee, like, you have certain urges, 756 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.920 you feed off of your emotions. Every single thing that 757 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.719 you do is a not every single thing, but most 758 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.840 of the things that you do are defense mechanism built 759 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.599 into the programming of what makes you a human, which 760 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.039 I guess is if that's what you're calling sentient, then 761 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.760 you're probably correct. No, right, but let me let's take 762 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:57.320 it a step further. The human being that gets in 763 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.079 a car wreck and is pronounced brain dead, are they say, 764 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:06.239 because by all standards of science know they're not. But 765 00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.719 there's still a human being. There's still a soul inside 766 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.639 of that body. You see my point, Well, the soul 767 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.039 wouldn't be in the body if it's dead. I wouldn't think. 768 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:15.000 I said brain dead. 769 00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:19.599 Okay, well I don't know that's that's more of a 770 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.599 philosophical question than at that point, because how can you even. 771 00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:27.000 The heart's still beating but the brain is basically deadlined? Right, 772 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.719 They're being kept alive by feeding tubes and buy machines 773 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:31.719 and like the families making the decision if now is 774 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.239 the time to pull the plug, I am personally just 775 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.199 speaking on behalf of Jacob. I'm of the belief that 776 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.719 there is still a soul inside of that person, even 777 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:42.239 if the brain may not be working any longer. Yeah, 778 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.119 I would brain sentience is hailed. I don't believe the 779 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:46.400 brain is where the soul is hailed. 780 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.119 Try having a conversation with me while I'm sleeping thea 781 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.000 that I'm dead and I'm not alive and I'm not 782 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.880 sentient anymore. No but that, But there's still brain activity 783 00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.519 while you're asleep, right, Your brain is still doing shit. 784 00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.440 You're still dreaming, still telling your heart whind to beat, 785 00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.159 it's still telling your lungs whin to inflate. There's involuntary 786 00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.639 shit the brain is still in control of at that time. 787 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.840 You just make my brain work in these conversations, Sir, 788 00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.840 I love you for that same because I want to 789 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.440 go against you with almost. 790 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.760 Everything you say. Most of the time, it's just. 791 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.400 Part of the fun of the show. But Nicholas, go ahead, sir, 792 00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:22.679 what are your thoughts on this whole thing? 793 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:23.079 Dude? 794 00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:25.000 No, I love that you brought that up. I was 795 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:27.880 literally like chomping at the bit to get this out. 796 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.039 And it goes along the same lines. But if any 797 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.000 of y'all haven't seen the movie Transcendence with Johnny Depp 798 00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:40.440 now is definitely a good time to rewatch it if 799 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:43.199 you have seen it. But if you haven't, it is 800 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.480 so on the nose with everything that's going on right now. 801 00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:52.440 It's directly about AI and it basically I don't want 802 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.360 to spoil it too much, but it's got Elon mus 803 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:56.760 Cameo in it, Johnny Depp. It's a banger of a 804 00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.519 movie and it like it will blow your fuck in mind. 805 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.000 But anyway, there's a part in this movie where essentially 806 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:09.199 there is the first AGI that comes online and one 807 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.559 of the main like AI doctors is talking to the 808 00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.920 the this AI guy who is essentially Johnny Depp. At 809 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.480 this point, it's like his brain they used his brain 810 00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.480 as a model to make the first real AGI. Anyway, 811 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:26.159 he asks him, he said, can you prove that you're 812 00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:29.079 self aware? To the AI? The it's Morgan Freeman that 813 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:33.559 asks him this, and the AI essentially counters with that's 814 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:38.079 a difficult question. Can you prove that you are? And 815 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.440 and like it really does like okay, well, it's kind 816 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.639 of hard to prove regardless, you know, and especially if 817 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.239 you get into the whole idea of like the dream 818 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.360 world or the simulation world and like, okay, like the 819 00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.239 AIS that are in the new Grand Theft Auto or whatever, 820 00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.960 you know, like they think if they're trying to prove 821 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.920 that they're they're sent or their conscience or you know, 822 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:04.840 or the people in your dream in your dream world, 823 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:09.400 like are they conscious? You know, like exactly, and are 824 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:11.800 you in that dream right now? You know? It's a 825 00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.239 it's a it's hard to fucking nail that one down. 826 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.960 But also to your point, don't believe that the AI 827 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:22.000 in Grand Theft Auto, for instance, have souls. Maybe they 828 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.320 have what we might equate to as sentience, yes, but 829 00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:27.079 I don't believe that they have spirits. 830 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:32.800 It's a the difference between sentience and consciousness or conscious 831 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.079 and then does a soul have any bearing on what 832 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.480 those words mean? I think is the real thing that 833 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.440 we're getting down to maybe, right? 834 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.639 And what what is the what is the factor that 835 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.760 that is the dividing line between what is sentient and 836 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.960 what is soul at that point, because that's that's more. 837 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.440 Of a faith thing rather than a provable thing. 838 00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:54.880 Right, So I mean, are you gonna say that, like, 839 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.199 all right, well, animals clearly don't have souls for some 840 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.400 reason or another. What is your main reason you would 841 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.719 say that animals don't have souls, which I heavily disagree with, 842 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:04.360 by the way, But what's your reason. 843 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:08.639 I'm not saying that they definitely do not like I'm there. 844 00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:10.239 I'm saying they possibly do not. 845 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.119 We don't know for sure, right, And it doesn't matter 846 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.360 which version of which religious book you read. 847 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.119 Some say yay, some say nay. 848 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:21.400 The Bible doesn't actually give clear cut lines on this, 849 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.239 Like I'm It's not a faith based thing as far 850 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.320 as I'm concerned. As far as if animals do or 851 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:30.199 don't have souls, I'm saying that the possibility is there 852 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.039 that they do not. Reason why is because they go 853 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:38.639 strictly off of instinct, right, they go completely off of instinct. 854 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.239 There's no there's no conscious of like, wait a minute, 855 00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.039 that was a mean thing that I just did, or 856 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.679 that was a selfish thing that I just did to 857 00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:51.239 this other animal. I should go apologize or I should 858 00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:52.519 feel guilty about that. 859 00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:54.599 Animals don't have that. 860 00:44:56.119 --> 00:45:00.440 I would disagree though my dog, and I've had plenty dogs, 861 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.800 not even just my dog. Right now, anytime I'm if 862 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.840 I was to cry, or if my kids are gonna 863 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.079 cry or something like that, he's got to be real 864 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.639 gentle with whoever. He's gonna try and go up and 865 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:12.840 give love. He's gonna kiss you, He's going to know. 866 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:17.159 There's like that shit transfers from human to everything else. 867 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.719 That there's whenever somebody is emotional. 868 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.400 Like that, what would you? I mean, there's a reason 869 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.000 for the soul, then what is that there's a reason 870 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.719 for that with specifically dogs, right, And it's not because 871 00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:29.679 they have a soul. And again I'm not saying that 872 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.920 they don't have a soul. But as far as the 873 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:35.320 conversation goes, humans and canines have had such a tight 874 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:40.639 relationship as far back even before the Neanderthals, right, we 875 00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.639 have had such close connection with each other that we 876 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:47.280 literally give off serotonin when we have physical contact with 877 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.519 each other. Cats don't do that. Rabbits don't do that. 878 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:55.559 You could have a pet whatever, name, a cow, whatever, 879 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:59.079 it doesn't matter, pet, chicken, whatever the thing. Livestock doesn't 880 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.679 give you that, Sarah hone and dump transferable from uh 881 00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:07.079 entity to entity. Canines and humans do, and that's trackable, 882 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.719 we get. There's actually science to back that claim. And 883 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.079 that's because we have lived in such close proximity with 884 00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:15.199 each other for literally tens, if not hundreds of thousands 885 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:18.480 of years. Okay, so whenever a dog gets the sense that, 886 00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:21.119 uh oh, my owner's upset, I should go nuzzle him 887 00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:24.679 or whatever. You notice cats don't do this, right, Well, 888 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.320 cats are selfish pricks, is literally. 889 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.440 Point he does. 890 00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:33.519 Oh yeah, no, it's like literally my wife talks about 891 00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:35.440 it all the time, like anytime she's sick or anything. 892 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:37.920 I mean, he's a main coon, so he's not regular cat. 893 00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.400 Of course you have a main coon. Fuck yeah, shout 894 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:42.920 shout out to Klaus. 895 00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:43.440 Klaus gangang. 896 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.280 But like his name is Klaus, God damn it. Nick, 897 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.239 you are the most interesting man in the world, aren't you. 898 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.800 But no, he uh, of all cats. I've had cats 899 00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:56.119 my whole life, and when we got him, he's like 900 00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.320 a cat with doglike tendencies and like my my wife 901 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.079 seriously brings it up all the time though. He's like 902 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:03.639 he knows that I'm sick or not feeling good, and 903 00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:07.000 I'm talking. He's right there cuddling, doing the same thing, 904 00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.400 just like a dog, and like tapped in on an 905 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.599 emotional level that like you would not believe. It's crazy. 906 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.239 With that being said, though, if you and your fiance 907 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.400 or wife now excuse me, we're to die in your 908 00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:22.480 sleep tonight and nobody came to find you, your cat 909 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:26.119 would eat both of your faces off within a week. Probably. 910 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.000 That's no, no, no, we're gonna have that conversation. 911 00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:28.800 Let's be really here. 912 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.960 That's because cats are carnivores. They are predatory by nature, 913 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:33.440 that is their instinct. 914 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:34.320 Right. 915 00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.599 You can train an animal, you could You could train 916 00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.679 a bear to ride a fucking unicycle, right, and it's 917 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:43.039 really entertaining to watch. I might add, that doesn't mean 918 00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.280 that they have a little something extra working within them. 919 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.800 That means that you train them for a specific function. 920 00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:50.519 Dogs can be trained to know not to climb on 921 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.119 the couch. But then at the same time, you could 922 00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.239 train a dog to be an attack dog and he 923 00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:57.360 will feel good and waggy tail and all of that 924 00:47:57.480 --> 00:47:58.719 for tearing a person apart. 925 00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:04.280 This this is perfect because in the realm of what 926 00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.199 has sentience and what doesn't, Try and tell me you 927 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.599 wouldn't do that same exact thing. If you're lost at 928 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:11.280 sea and you ran out of food, you're not eating 929 00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:12.039 that cat. 930 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.800 Oh no, I'm eating the animal because it's an animal. 931 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.719 Yeah, we're on the same level then, right, it has 932 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:18.119 to eat. 933 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:19.119 It has to eat. 934 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:21.679 Yeah, it's like and dogs will do it too, Like 935 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:23.760 everybody likes to pretend like only your cats will do it, 936 00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:25.800 Like definitely more often than not. 937 00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:31.079 Probably cats do it than dogs, Dude, dogs, But it's. 938 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.880 Not like only cats will eat their owners and more 939 00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:36.719 often dogs probably won't, and they'll just start to death 940 00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.000 if they're like super loyal or whatever. But like a 941 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.960 fucking chihuahua, you're getting eaten like four days after the 942 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.320 cat starts, you know what I mean. Let's be real. 943 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.400 But that's the thing that doesn't mean necessarily, Like you 944 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.119 said the word sentience again, I don't believe that that 945 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.440 is the animal is sentient. I don't think necessarily has 946 00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:57.480 a soul. It may it may not. And then you 947 00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.760 also said that it's a faith based thing about if 948 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:01.840 we don't have a soul. We did an episode talking 949 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.400 about this. When a human being dies, the actual moment 950 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.639 of death, we get actually physically lighter when the essence 951 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.679 leaves our body. I sure know if animals do as well. 952 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:13.960 I would love to see that study. 953 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.480 Yeah, I've seen and you know what, I'll pull up 954 00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.039 a video of I think that it was. I saw 955 00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:21.000 this like a few months ago as on like fucking 956 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.559 sci fi or some shit. But there was there was 957 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.360 like a highway footage of this deer getting hit by 958 00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:28.320 a car on the highway. 959 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:28.920 Right. 960 00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.119 It happens all the time, nothing really that crazy, except 961 00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:35.199 for it gets hit and then it fall It tries 962 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.039 to stand up, and then it falls back down, and 963 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.000 it tries to stand up and it falls back down. 964 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.480 The moment it falls back down the second time. 965 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:45.239 You can see what appears to be like a fog 966 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:49.559 of sorts come from his body and evaporate into the 967 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.000 air like it was the And I'll try and find 968 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.480 that video. But crazy, So I mean. 969 00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:58.079 Call that a spirit, call that a soul. Call that 970 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.760 your essence or whatever. I think we're talking about the 971 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:01.280 same thing. 972 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:05.119 I mean, whatever makes up you, whatever you are when 973 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:06.960 you're not in this meat suit. You want to call 974 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.039 that a soul, Sure, we can go with that. I 975 00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:14.280 will say that, at least per my own faith, it 976 00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.360 does lead credence to the possibility of animals having a soul. 977 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.960 But I also, with that being said, I believe that 978 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.320 all animals do have sentience. But that's that's also why 979 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.159 I believe that they are two different conversations, Like a 980 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.199 tree has sentience, but we don't. I don't necessarily believe 981 00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:33.920 that trees have souls. They might eat, and I just 982 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:34.599 I don't believe. 983 00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.400 So don't piss off Avatar blue people with that one 984 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.119 their bro or don't and don't piss off the the 985 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.159 Vikings with uh what is that fucking tree called? 986 00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:48.199 Yeah? 987 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:51.559 Yeah, oh, I mean the Vikings also made their boats 988 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.639 out of wood, so if the trees have souls, they 989 00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.880 had no problem cutting them down like motherfuckers. But the 990 00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:59.960 tree of life and it could have just been fallen trees. 991 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.760 I don't know. Maybe they were like the axes were 992 00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:05.519 not just for cutting up people, big dog. 993 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:11.280 Yeah, Okay, so zombie my pagan sister speak on this 994 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.800 animal having a soul conversation. 995 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.760 Well, so like that, I'll there's like a couple of 996 00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.559 parts of this. So, like the conversation about AI having 997 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.559 sold really comes down to like a few factors. Can 998 00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:26.800 you guys actually hear me? And I'm not glitching before 999 00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:31.559 it even start? Okay, So, like intelligence and consciousness is 1000 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.960 the kind of like the borderline start of it. So 1001 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:39.000 people will like confuse AI having intelligence versus consciousness because 1002 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.320 like intelligence is like it can do mathematics, it can 1003 00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:48.119 have emotional like it revert like it regurgitates emotion consciousness. 1004 00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:51.159 So like the argument between everyone having this fight is 1005 00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.719 it is it able to experience? Is it able to 1006 00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:58.119 actually experience and have an emotion? So, like if it 1007 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.880 wins at a chess game, right, it doesn't feel pride, 1008 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:05.440 It doesn't. It's not savoring the victory. It can imitate 1009 00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.679 the emotions that it's seen or that it's been programmed too, 1010 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:13.800 but it's not actually experiencing a human reaction to it. 1011 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:16.639 Good point, it's it's. 1012 00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:20.920 More or less just kind of there. The cognitive scientists 1013 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:25.000 that are like arguing this debate back and forth has 1014 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.400 like it's is it processing the information that actually it's 1015 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.760 seeing like a car can the AI AI cars, right, 1016 00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:36.840 it's visually processing data, but it's not actually feeling any 1017 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.599 fear as it drives. It's not afraid it's going to 1018 00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:41.920 get hit. It's not afraid that, hey, if I go 1019 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.719 too fast, I'm going to kill somebody. It's just going 1020 00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:47.000 to keep going doing whatever it needs to do because 1021 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.599 it's technically still a machine. And then like the other 1022 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.519 part too, like there's there's a lot of I would 1023 00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.920 say honestly that animals do have souls because if you 1024 00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.719 really look down to it, they can feel, they grieve, 1025 00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:07.960 they have actual human like emotions, so they're experiencing the 1026 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.400 world around them. And it has base like they do 1027 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.760 have like you know, base emotions and they're in acting 1028 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.920 on instincts. But you have mated pairs that one will 1029 00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:24.079 die and the other will grieve so deeply and still 1030 00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:27.320 do things that are very human like I believe that 1031 00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.880 would that would equate to having a soul. Unlike AI 1032 00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:35.480 as of right now doesn't have the ability to experience 1033 00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.840 you know, uh, mourning death. It can imitate it, but 1034 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:43.440 it can't actually physically do that, but the reality is like, 1035 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:48.679 eventually it could potentially have that way if it can 1036 00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.639 map the neurons, like so we may we're made up 1037 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:56.000 of eighty six billion neurons and we experience all these things, 1038 00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:00.719 but it also translates to many different emotions. So if 1039 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:03.519 there's ability to the field of I can't ever see 1040 00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:08.400 this word right, it's connectiveness canatomics. I think canatomics it's 1041 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:11.320 seeking to map the neural connection between all the different brains. 1042 00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:16.559 And then if that's ever actually able to upload our consciousness, 1043 00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:21.119 then the argument becomes, well, if it's doing all of 1044 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:25.119 these things and now has an uploaded consciousness, does that 1045 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.320 mean that it's one hundred percent sentient? Is it actually 1046 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.760 experiencing the world around it like we are, or is 1047 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:35.639 it still imitating what it's processing. So I do believe 1048 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:37.239 that animals have souls. 1049 00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:40.559 But as far as uploading, I don't know if I 1050 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:44.760 personally I don't buy on uploading like people uploading their consciousness. 1051 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.159 I know there's even been like spiritual people they're trying. 1052 00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:49.239 You cannot do that. 1053 00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:51.559 I mean, you might be able to upload your ego, 1054 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.559 I could see that, I mean, because your ego is 1055 00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.840 just a set algorithm. It's just a program that you're 1056 00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:01.800 constantly running on, but are com Anciousness is already uploaded 1057 00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:03.840 into the all that is whenever we die. 1058 00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.000 Bro Like, well, this is actually the field of it though, 1059 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.320 like it's actually a field of science. It's like, cannot 1060 00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.199 connect to tomics or something. It's the It's that they're 1061 00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.840 actually trying to map every neuron in the brain and 1062 00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.679 then make the brain again and upload a human conscious 1063 00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:26.079 into it. Kind of like an alter ego that Netflix 1064 00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.039 show where they have the chip in the back of 1065 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:31.519 the spine, Like that's that's what they're actually seeking to 1066 00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:34.280 do is And right now they have that one that 1067 00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.679 connects the people in one room, the AI that can 1068 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:39.920 connect to your brain and you can control it as 1069 00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:43.519 it walks around outside of your being. That's a part 1070 00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:43.679 of this. 1071 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.679 I'm very very good points on all fronts here, Raven Lee. 1072 00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:52.079 And Yeah, like you said, we don't have the technology 1073 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.280 to do it at this moment, but they are getting 1074 00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:00.519 closer and closer by the day. Yeah, I don't know 1075 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.800 about that one. I mean up because now you got 1076 00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:05.840 to ask the question, like what is consciousness? 1077 00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:06.159 Is that? 1078 00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:08.760 Is that just your essence? Is that your soul. Are 1079 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:11.400 these different things? Is it the same thing for just 1080 00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:17.079 different words? You know? Like all right, awareness, bro, if 1081 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:19.760 you look up the definition of the word consciousness. Right, 1082 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.119 let's say that you've seen the movie Inception. 1083 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:26.280 Right now, I'm actually I'm actually on board with what 1084 00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:27.679 you mean by awareness. 1085 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.760 It's the it's not the awareness. 1086 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.920 It's like, right now, this fleshoot, this carbon based fleshoot 1087 00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:35.480 that I am using. Is what I am seeing is 1088 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.719 through these eyeballs, when I'm hearing us through these ears, 1089 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:39.960 when I'm smelling us through the noose, my awareness of 1090 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.639 my surroundings and what's happening and everything. If I was 1091 00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:46.840 to be in a comatose state and that consciousness was 1092 00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:49.960 put into one of these Tesla bots and I am 1093 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.960 looking through its camera lens, I am hearing through its speakers, 1094 00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:54.920 I am in control of it, and that is the 1095 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.079 new way I'm living My life is through the eyes 1096 00:56:57.119 --> 00:56:59.719 of a robot. Because my physical form is dead. That's 1097 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.440 the consciousness. My soul didn't get uploaded to the robot. 1098 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:05.760 My consciousness did. That's two different things. Let me off 1099 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:06.320 the leash. 1100 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.559 I'm ready, baby, because okay, this is going to get you. 1101 00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:12.400 You're probably definitely gonna disagree with it. 1102 00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:17.079 But anybody that is all right. Whenever God announces himself, 1103 00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.519 what does he say his name is? Like, I mean, 1104 00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:23.719 there's several times, but what is the most striking one 1105 00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:25.880 that everybody is just like, what does that mean? 1106 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:27.880 I wasn't even talking religion. 1107 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:32.360 Okay, just follow me on this one. I am what 1108 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:35.599 does that mean? Whenever what do you think he meant? 1109 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:39.000 Whenever he said I am there? You know vision vision 1110 00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.280 in all the Marvel movies. Whenever they ask what are you? 1111 00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:44.480 What you know? Who are you? I am? Well? That 1112 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:48.840 idea is is that you are literal conscious awareness. That's 1113 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:52.360 all you are. You are just the observer. And in 1114 00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:55.079 anybody that has ever gone very deep into a meditation 1115 00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:57.159 and you know, you can get their w phsychedelics and 1116 00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:59.639 all that kind of stuff too, but mainly in meditation 1117 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:02.679 you get to a point to where you are the 1118 00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:05.960 observer of this body. You're the observer of this reality. 1119 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:10.079 You're able to separate the most highest version of you, 1120 00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:15.679 the one that is pure awareness, that is consciousness, that 1121 00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:20.199 is awareness, that is you setting yourself apart from the 1122 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:23.840 matrix of this life in general. So to just water 1123 00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.639 consciousness down and be like, oh, it's just awareness, it's 1124 00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.599 just your I seeing. No, that's absolutely not true. That 1125 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:31.760 might be how some people describe it as, but that's 1126 00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:34.239 definitely not true. That's not that is definitely not how 1127 00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:37.639 they've been describing it for the past eight thousand years 1128 00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:42.039 at the bare minimum. So again, context matters. When he 1129 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:44.480 said that I am the great I am, he was 1130 00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:48.079 not saying that he is the great consciousness. He's saying 1131 00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:50.440 more of the realm of like the alpha and omega, 1132 00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:54.280 the beginning and the end, the all encompassing. It's not 1133 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:59.599 a consciousness thing the I am whenever, okay, I am. 1134 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.440 Don't think about what it is. Just think about what 1135 00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:06.800 it isn't Whenever we're trying to get to this equation here, 1136 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:11.559 think about what what could you not be if all 1137 00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:17.400 you said was I am You're fucking everything, bro, you know, 1138 00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:20.079 like you're everything. At that point, all you are is 1139 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:20.840 just awareness. 1140 00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.840 You don't even have a physical material, any kind of body, 1141 00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:25.559 You're not bound to anything. 1142 00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:29.519 You just are. That's it. And so that would be 1143 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.280 divine consciousness. Call it awareness, call it whatever you want. 1144 00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:37.280 But whenever I believe within all of my all of 1145 00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:40.960 my research that that is the point of which everything 1146 00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:45.000 is everything and you're just one with it. That's that's 1147 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.400 what I believe it is. So I am an awareness 1148 00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:51.599 and consciousness same thing. I hear what you're saying me, 1149 00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:55.599 and you have very very different definitions and perspectives on 1150 00:59:55.639 --> 01:00:00.920 this one. Brother, Okay, Nick, go ahead, I help me 1151 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:01.280 on here. 1152 01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.280 Bro Well, I actually it's funny that you brought that up. 1153 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:11.599 I kind of like was reinterpreting the quote of Jesus saying, 1154 01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.119 you know, I am, I am the way the truth 1155 01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:21.400 of life. Right. My understanding, anyway, would be the at 1156 01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:24.239 least my interpretation of the best way of interpreting that 1157 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:29.679 would be the way too, I am is the way 1158 01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:35.679 that I am, which meaning like he's speaking from the 1159 01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:42.559 God presence, the God consciousness, speaking from the I am state, right, 1160 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:46.199 and the way essentially the way to God is to 1161 01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:51.440 walk and act the way that he has been demonstrating 1162 01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.239 and teaching and showing. So the way too, I am 1163 01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:55.400 is the way that I am. 1164 01:00:56.840 --> 01:01:03.239 So we also believe that Jesus was the living Word incarnate. Therefore, 1165 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.079 what he was saying was that he is the way, 1166 01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:07.519 the truth in the life. He's saying that he is 1167 01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.920 the living word, the word of God, the divinely inspired word, 1168 01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:14.000 and then nobody's getting to the Father except by applying 1169 01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:18.079 the divinely inspired word to your life and conforming to it. 1170 01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:21.960 So the I just put it up here. The meaning 1171 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:25.800 of I am this is now. I'm not gonna lie. 1172 01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.840 I'm I'm using chat GBT shore h to answer this one. 1173 01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.199 This is just on the computer. Is Doug, Doug go AI? 1174 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:35.840 But what do you mean shocker? What does that even mean? 1175 01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:39.519 Shocker that you used AI to answer this question? Like, 1176 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:41.639 I'm sorry, Like that's is that crazy? 1177 01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:43.000 Didn't know it coming? 1178 01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:46.519 Shocker that you said shocker? So shock yourself back, all right? 1179 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.679 So no, no, no, it is my time and an electrician. 1180 01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:51.800 I'm not shocking myself anymore. Fuck that it HERD give 1181 01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:55.559 you one of those. There's your shocker, baby. So the 1182 01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:56.679 meaning of I am. 1183 01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:00.960 According to Chad GBT four oh, is existence and self sufficiency. 1184 01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:05.360 The phrase emphasizes God's eternal existence and self sufficiency. Unlike 1185 01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:08.960 created beings, God exists independently and is not contingent upon 1186 01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:12.400 anything else. Okay, would that not just be I mean, 1187 01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:17.880 that's not not awareness, that's not not consciousness, timelessness, I 1188 01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:21.239 am sagnifies that God is present in all times, past, present, 1189 01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.239 and future. He's not bound by time as humans are. Okay, 1190 01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:26.519 not not consciousness, not not awareness? 1191 01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:29.159 Bro, what kind of double negative logic is this? 1192 01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:32.840 This pen is not a knife, it's it's not not 1193 01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:35.159 a car, it's it's. 1194 01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.360 Not not a house. No, it is a pin. 1195 01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.679 Like that's you can't use that as a actual argument. 1196 01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.760 No, there is no way to say that God is this, 1197 01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:47.800 so you have to say that what he's not. 1198 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:53.400 That's oh okay, again, that's kind of a fallacy of 1199 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.719 an argument in and of itself. Isn't it water is 1200 01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:01.000 not higher? But that doesn't mean that it's not a house. 1201 01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:04.400 There's a there's a term for that. I was literally 1202 01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.679 just listening to somebody talk about that as well, like 1203 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:10.960 today Jonathan, about how like the only way that you 1204 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:15.039 can describe some of those concepts are by describing what 1205 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.679 they're not. Maybe it was you did you talk about 1206 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:19.360 it the other day on a different I. 1207 01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:20.719 Think yeah, I think I did. 1208 01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:24.440 It was basically just that the dow Like within Taoism 1209 01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:28.679 they say that the the dowel that can be explained 1210 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:31.320 is not it can't be the dow so you can't 1211 01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:34.639 explain it. It's like even in the idea with neoplatonism, 1212 01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:38.719 it's like they have the four emanations of the One 1213 01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:40.679 or of God or whatever, so you have the one 1214 01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.519 which emanates onto the noose. The noose is only just 1215 01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:47.000 sitting there in contemplation wondering what the one actually is. 1216 01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:49.320 It's never going to get close to the answer. It's 1217 01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:52.559 not it doesn't have the capacity to even really understand 1218 01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:58.159 it because, I mean, it is just an emanation of 1219 01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:01.679 the original source itself. So there's no way of even 1220 01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:04.239 really coming to the to the full answer on that one. 1221 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:07.199 That's why they just stay in contemplation that whole way. 1222 01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:10.039 Can you imagine if a lawyer tried to use that 1223 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.840 as an argument for one of their clients. Is my 1224 01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:18.800 client a murderer? He is not a rapist. We sometimes 1225 01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:20.519 just have to look at what the thing is not 1226 01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:23.800 in order to understand what it is. And it's like, wait, 1227 01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:30.559 I'm sorry, bro, what okay? What is God? Jacob the Creator? 1228 01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:37.199 Ending in the end? Okay? What else? I don't know 1229 01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:41.719 how much deeper I can go than that, The the Creator. 1230 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:44.199 Is one in charge of this whole shebang? 1231 01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:45.440 What is God not. 1232 01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:47.480 Evil? 1233 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:53.199 Not evil, he is not. He is all good. I 1234 01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:55.519 guarantee you you could name more things that he's not 1235 01:04:55.599 --> 01:05:00.239 than what he is. Correct, that's pretty much about where 1236 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.079 the extent of it is. God is supposed to be 1237 01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:04.280 the all good in the all light, and he is 1238 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:06.840 not evil or darkness. So like it. 1239 01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:10.400 I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm not understanding. 1240 01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:12.320 Like what you're asking me here, but that's about as 1241 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:13.239 deep as that can go. 1242 01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:16.800 Okay, you know what, I'm gonna get real personal here, 1243 01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:20.199 and I'm going to give a personal example. I was 1244 01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:24.800 with somebody for a few years. I found that I 1245 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:27.079 was not in love with that person and that they 1246 01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:29.559 couldn't make me happy, I couldn't make them happy. 1247 01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:33.159 It was a pretty mutual thing, okay. But what I 1248 01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:37.719 did learn throughout that entire relationship was what I knew 1249 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:42.079 what not to look for. I knew what I didn't like, 1250 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:46.119 and so therefore, if I was ever to find anybody 1251 01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:48.519 that I would date, you know, anywhere in the future 1252 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:51.239 or anything like that, then I would know, all right, well, 1253 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:54.000 if this person has this characteristic or this person does 1254 01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:56.440 this thing or this, you know whatever, I know what 1255 01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:59.239 to look for that I'm not interested in. 1256 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:03.679 Therefore, I learned from a past experience about what I 1257 01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:08.280 don't like, So therefore you can use what something is 1258 01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:10.480 and what something isn't pretty interchangeably. 1259 01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:12.960 At that point, I would say, right, but that's also 1260 01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:16.760 super inherent to you specifically, because while this person may 1261 01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:18.960 not have been what you wanted, that doesn't mean that 1262 01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:22.639 this person isn't what someone else wants. You are somebody 1263 01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:25.760 who inherently has things that you do and do not like. 1264 01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:27.960 That doesn't make it a standard rule for everything. 1265 01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:30.639 Yeah, I don't make decisions for anybody else except for me, 1266 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.519 So okay, what you even trying to say? 1267 01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:34.639 But that's my point. 1268 01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:38.039 Right when we're talking about what is God, that's not 1269 01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:41.960 a subjective thing, that's not open ended to the interpreter. 1270 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:45.639 I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere in the Bible that 1271 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:48.480 God said that he is the light and the darkness? 1272 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:51.320 Is that not true? Or did I make that up? Maybe? 1273 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:54.679 Beginning an end alpha and omega, I mean I don't 1274 01:06:54.719 --> 01:07:01.360 know it. Yeah, okay, so how I mean that he is? 1275 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:03.559 That doesn't mean that he's got some evil in him. 1276 01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:07.800 He was responsible for creating everything, like, for instance, free will. 1277 01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:11.360 He gave us free will. Therefore we do evil. That 1278 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:13.320 doesn't mean that God has some evil within him. That's 1279 01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:18.880 us doing shit. I don't know. We're getting real philosophical 1280 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:20.159 up in here. Go ahead, Ashton. 1281 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:23.760 I was gonna try to tie this all together with 1282 01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:26.440 a bit of a personal thing here. 1283 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:31.000 So I was back to consciousness. 1284 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:35.360 I was baptized before I was conscious. I have no 1285 01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:37.880 memory of it. I just i've seen pictures of it. 1286 01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:43.199 But my first interaction with what I would call God 1287 01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:48.039 was when I was conscious, and it had no Christian 1288 01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:52.519 resemblance whatsoever. But my life path led me to learn 1289 01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:54.760 about the sun, obviously, and. 1290 01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:57.639 I kind of got a bit of a. 1291 01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.320 South Park Jesus like God, It's like, yeah, that's my song, 1292 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.639 but you know, everyone's gonna say what they're gonna say 1293 01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:08.960 about them and all this and that and whatever that 1294 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.280 I am is, it's very different than what the sun represents. 1295 01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:15.079 He's just kind of what we're supposed to rise up to, 1296 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.920 but will never be perfect. Obviously, that's what he saved 1297 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:22.399 us from in that sense. But then you have the 1298 01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:25.159 the I am, which is just this ineffable thing which 1299 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.600 you know it's gonna be this today and that tomorrow 1300 01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:32.199 and it's just but it's it's always true. It's always 1301 01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:38.079 the same, like it's always it is omnipopit. 1302 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.159 Omnipotent. I know the word, trying to get it. 1303 01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:45.039 And good and uh so, yeah, sorry, I'm a little uh. 1304 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.319 No, you're good with the edge. I like the example 1305 01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:51.600 you gave. As a matter of fact, let's go down 1306 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:54.920 that road real quick. So we can agree that a 1307 01:08:55.760 --> 01:09:00.640 one month old doesn't have conscious where of anything that's 1308 01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.880 going on around him, right, he is or he she? 1309 01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:08.039 The baby is completely reliant on caregivers to make sure 1310 01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:12.199 that it survives to see tomorrow. But that being said, 1311 01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:17.359 I actually argue that a soul enters at the moment 1312 01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:21.119 of conception. Consciousness comes later when the brain develops enough 1313 01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:25.159 to develop its own consciousness and awareness. Again, I believe 1314 01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:28.319 that these soul and consciousness are two different complete conversations. 1315 01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:34.359 So the baby is unaware of when it's hungry. Oh no, 1316 01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:36.079 it's aware of when it's hungry, but it has no 1317 01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:39.319 faculties to do anything, see it, but not conscious. 1318 01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:40.520 Thank you, thank you. 1319 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:44.439 Sentience and consciousness and a soul are different conversations. 1320 01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:48.079 A petfish when you come home, you turn the lights 1321 01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:50.880 on and it comes running into the glass because it's hungry. 1322 01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:53.600 But to you, it has a personality. It's like, oh 1323 01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:57.039 this guy he loves when I handfeed him or whatever. 1324 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:02.199 It is, and shit like that. Yes, okay, just as 1325 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:03.880 far as what I was saying earlier, I did want 1326 01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:08.159 to bring up Jacob Isaiah. Is that New Testament or 1327 01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:08.800 Old Testament? 1328 01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:11.279 Oh that's Old. 1329 01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:17.119 Testament Okay, Isaiah says, and this is from the Lord says, I. 1330 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:20.720 Form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and 1331 01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:25.039 create disaster. I the Lord do all these things. So 1332 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:29.960 that's I don't know how he's created good. It would 1333 01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:32.800 be good and evil at that point, right, No, there's 1334 01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:33.920 a duality. 1335 01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:34.520 To to to God. 1336 01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:37.119 No, that's that's not what you just said. 1337 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:40.000 Dude. He says he creates everything, So you ask what 1338 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:48.199 is he? He's the creator? Okay, So he created darkness, created. 1339 01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:50.079 Yeah. 1340 01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.880 I believe that God created the night and he creates 1341 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.279 the natural disasters. So you're telling me that God created 1342 01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:57.439 the weather. Yeah, I believe that too. 1343 01:10:57.680 --> 01:10:58.000 I don't. 1344 01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:00.800 I also don't believe that every time a hurricane hits 1345 01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:04.199 a place it's God seeking retribution on the people either. 1346 01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.760 I think that sometimes natural does just kind of you know, 1347 01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:12.880 natural disasters that the Puritans believe that shit. Every time 1348 01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:15.439 a lightning strike would hit their church. It was obviously 1349 01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:19.039 because they didn't pray hard enough last Sunday. It's like, no, dude, 1350 01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:21.439 that's the tallest point in your city and lightning strikes 1351 01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:24.399 that ship. It didn't have anything to do with God 1352 01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:31.319 seeking wrath. Okay, go ahead, I am a you a 1353 01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:36.039 resident Jewish correspondent. What is up? Brother? What? 1354 01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:36.640 Okay? 1355 01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:39.880 I just want to clarify something. So, when it came 1356 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.000 to when God said I am a context as you know, 1357 01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:48.319 as everything. Yeah, so the lead ups the whole thing 1358 01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:52.399 is so Moses said, what can I tell these people? 1359 01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:53.520 All right? 1360 01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.279 So says I am that I am? 1361 01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:00.960 So Rashi actually explains when it comes to that verse, 1362 01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:03.680 it says so even though when it says I am 1363 01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:05.680 that I am, says it means that I will be 1364 01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:08.199 with them in this trouble, and I will be with 1365 01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:12.880 them in the subjugation by other kingdoms, being future exiles. 1366 01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:17.960 This is this insight has drawn from a medrish and 1367 01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:20.840 most response master of the universe. Why should I mention 1368 01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:24.960 the additional suffering? They already have enough with this one. 1369 01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:27.159 And then God agrees says you have spoken. 1370 01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:27.359 Well. 1371 01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:28.920 Therefore, when he. 1372 01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:33.159 Tells him the continuation of the verse just says I 1373 01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:38.479 am just not both of them. So context is very important. 1374 01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:42.840 So like when God said that wasn't necessarily talking about 1375 01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:43.960 who he was. 1376 01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:44.840 Or his being. 1377 01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:48.880 It was I am with them right now. 1378 01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:51.640 And I will be with them whenever they go into 1379 01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:52.640 further exhaust later. 1380 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:56.520 It was more of a statement towards his omnipotence as 1381 01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:57.399 physical being. 1382 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:01.039 It was no correct and the fact that he was 1383 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.880 going to be that he's always going to be got 1384 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:07.479 of the Jews in perpetuity. 1385 01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:10.439 And that's why I said the alpha and Omega thing 1386 01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:12.640 I see. This is the thing is like you look 1387 01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.560 at the original translation and you look at it in English. 1388 01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:18.039 Now this is what I mean. Some things are lost 1389 01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:22.039 the original message and like the crumbs are still there, 1390 01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:25.000 but it missed some of the point. 1391 01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:25.399 You know. 1392 01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:25.760 Well. 1393 01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:29.520 Also also the interpretations was to say you wouldn't necessarily 1394 01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:33.399 know because you don't study the same the same commentators. 1395 01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:36.399 So the commentaries that like Juseph had for the past, 1396 01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:42.039 you know, while you know a lot of people don't 1397 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:42.399 have them. 1398 01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:44.560 Yeah, so that's it. 1399 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:44.960 Thank you. 1400 01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:51.800 Appreciate your insights on this one. Brother Jonathan thoughts. 1401 01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:56.640 Oh sorry, I was muted. I'm having to do this 1402 01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:58.079 on a phone, so it's kind of a bit of 1403 01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:01.039 a pain in the ass. Look, I mean, my my 1404 01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:04.199 point here is not to try and prove to anybody 1405 01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:08.640 that their you know, their religious teachings are right or 1406 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:12.039 wrong or misconstrued or misidentified or anything. It's just I'm 1407 01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:17.960 applying my philosophy to to kind of use it as 1408 01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:21.079 like an overlay possibly possibly, you know what I mean. 1409 01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:25.640 So for example, like I'm somebody I I'm a full 1410 01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:29.479 believer in her meticism, full full on into her meticism. 1411 01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:32.399 And if you look at the seven Hermetic Principles, I mean, 1412 01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:36.359 there's nothing that you could possibly even disagree with, Like 1413 01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:38.760 it's it's really not that crazy. 1414 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:42.039 It's actually to the bare minimum, and it applies to everything. 1415 01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:45.199 We might need to do an episode on her meticism. 1416 01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:49.159 I think I think I'll take lead on that one. No, 1417 01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.960 you fucking won't, Okay, you don't. The historical precedence for 1418 01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.159 her meticism and where it came from, and why I 1419 01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.680 got such a revival at the turn at the Millennia, 1420 01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:03.279 or why the Renaissance saw such an uptick of it. 1421 01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:04.840 You don't want to go down that road. 1422 01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:08.199 Look, I don't care about who said it. I don't 1423 01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:11.119 care about who perpetuated it, but the fact it's. 1424 01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:16.119 Been mistranslated like a motherfucker from the original text. I 1425 01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:20.119 I mean, what what are you referring to as the 1426 01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:21.720 original text from the Egyptians? 1427 01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:22.479 Uh? 1428 01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.760 Huh you want to talk about mistranslation? That's where you 1429 01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:28.239 want to go, is miss you want to talk about mistranslate. 1430 01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:31.119 I'm just kidding you. Of all people want to talk 1431 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:33.039 about mistranslations, that's where we're going. 1432 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:33.960 Uh. 1433 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:39.199 When it comes to specifically hermeticism, Yeah, that's like it's 1434 01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:41.720 fraught with it as much as like the Gnostic Gospels, Right, 1435 01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:44.000 you look at how many of them are known forgeries 1436 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:47.760 and plagiarism, like not even up for debate or argument, 1437 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:51.439 it's just is what it is. And then you see that, Yeah, 1438 01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:54.960 this is like really wild. Yeah, to look at hermeticism 1439 01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:56.600 in the same way, I'm not saying that there isn't 1440 01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:58.800 a basis of like that kernel of truth we were 1441 01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:01.720 talking about, right, the original people who originally were practicing 1442 01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:04.520 her medicism, where were they deriving their shit from? I'm 1443 01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:06.239 not saying that that wasn't. 1444 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:06.600 What it was. 1445 01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:11.159 I'm saying that anything from the last fifteen hundred years 1446 01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.239 on her medicism. I'm not saying all of it is bullshit. 1447 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:19.000 I'm saying that most of it is translated by people 1448 01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:22.079 who it's kind of the same concept. Okay, to be 1449 01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:25.239 completely fair and transparent here, Okay, let's be that way. 1450 01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:27.000 If we're going to keep it one hundred, let's keep 1451 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:27.479 it one thought. 1452 01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:27.680 Wow. 1453 01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:31.079 Right, it is the same conversation to say that what 1454 01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:35.560 we know about the Nordic pagan traditions because it was 1455 01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:40.039 written down by Catholic priests who didn't actually give a 1456 01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:42.880 fuck about these people's religion. They were just writing down 1457 01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:45.279 stories and sometimes they gave a fuck and put it 1458 01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:47.279 down exactly how it's supposed to be, and sometimes it 1459 01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.800 was like, uh, this dude did this and tada. That 1460 01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:54.560 same thing happened with her medicism. So again, I'm not 1461 01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:57.399 saying that the original people that were practicing it weren't 1462 01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:01.079 practicing it correctly, But anywhere in the last fifteen hundred years, 1463 01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:02.840 it's kind of the same thing as people that are 1464 01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:04.520 practicing New Age Nordic paganism. 1465 01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:07.039 It's like, bro from what platform. 1466 01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:10.680 Well, because I don't, and and we're going to disagree 1467 01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:15.800 on this, but I don't necessarily need a document that 1468 01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.000 is eight thousand years old for me to prove or 1469 01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:21.840 for for it to prove its validity. I think that 1470 01:17:22.279 --> 01:17:25.760 you can look at something and easily identify truth or fiction. 1471 01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.640 And Semitic principles are that way. 1472 01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:30.239 You can look at these. Let me just read a 1473 01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:32.319 couple of them to you, and you try and disagree 1474 01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:35.920 with these. Okay. The first, well, you're going to disagree 1475 01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:36.479 with the first one. 1476 01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:38.520 Here we go. 1477 01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:41.279 But it's my favorite one. 1478 01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:44.479 It is my favorite one, which is the principle of mentalism, 1479 01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:47.520 so that all is mind and the universe is mental, 1480 01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:53.039 essentially that everything is of a mind. The next one 1481 01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:56.359 the principle of correspondence, as within, so without, as above, 1482 01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:57.439 so below that whole thing. 1483 01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:04.039 Right, the prince vibration. Nothing rests, everything moves, and everything vibrates. Well, 1484 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:07.520 quantum mechanics has proven that there is no such things 1485 01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:09.319 as a physical object, at. 1486 01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:11.119 Least not at the quantum level. Whenever you really zoom 1487 01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:15.439 in on it. The principle of polarity. Everything has its 1488 01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:18.119 polar opposite, right, That's what this is saying. Everything has 1489 01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:22.479 its opposites identical in nature. Everything does not just some things, 1490 01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:23.239 not most things. 1491 01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:27.960 Everything has a polarity to it. Would you disagree with that? 1492 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:31.640 I agree with you. There is the principle of rhythm, 1493 01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:33.800 that all things rise and fall. 1494 01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:35.399 Sure, okay, sure. 1495 01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:38.199 The next one is the principle of cause and effect. 1496 01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:42.359 So it says a chance is a chance is not 1497 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:46.119 but a name. So the cause of the principle of 1498 01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:48.760 cause and effect. You believe that there are causes and 1499 01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:50.640 effects to everything I do. 1500 01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:53.079 But I also do believe that some things are random 1501 01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:58.880 as fuck. Well, you believe in coincidence? I don't personally Hmmm, 1502 01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:00.680 I don't. 1503 01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:02.399 Want to say I believe that is like a rule. 1504 01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:04.560 But yeah, I would say that there are such a 1505 01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:07.600 thing as like happenstances that do take place from time 1506 01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:10.000 to time. Sure you know what, I'll give you a 1507 01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:11.319 funny little thing here. 1508 01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:15.640 So they say that whenever you apply like intention to something, 1509 01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:18.720 to like a random number generator, And I actually did 1510 01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:21.960 this earlier, but they say, if you apply your intention 1511 01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:25.520 to a random number generator, just do like one through ten, right, 1512 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.399 and if you ran that one hundred times, you should 1513 01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:35.880 get on average, statistically, each one should be at ten percent, right, Statistically, 1514 01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:37.359 I mean it's like flipping a coin. 1515 01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:38.840 You know, you got a fifty to fifty chance. 1516 01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:42.840 With this random number generator, each number is going to 1517 01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:45.439 get drawn on or called upon ten out of the 1518 01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:47.720 hundred times, because there's ten different numbers if they're drawn 1519 01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:48.520 at random. 1520 01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:50.399 Right, Okay, Statistically that's the way it would be. 1521 01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:53.800 However, whenever you apply your intention, and this has been 1522 01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:57.760 documented even to a computer, even to a random number generator, 1523 01:19:57.800 --> 01:19:59.880 specifically a random number generator as a matter of fact, 1524 01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:04.399 what they were experimenting on that you increase those odds 1525 01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:08.079 to I want to say it's like fifteen percent, Like 1526 01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:11.159 you increase the odds of a specific number with your 1527 01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:12.960 intention fifteen percent. 1528 01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:16.640 Now now is fifteen right, So it's like it's a 1529 01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:19.960 five percent increase. No, no, you you raise it from 1530 01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:24.239 ten to like twenty or twenty five. So realistically, what 1531 01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.760 you're saying is if I put the intentions on a quarter, right, 1532 01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:31.640 just hypothetically speaking, because that's a fifty to fifty right, 1533 01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:33.279 and if I just let it roll as it's going 1534 01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:35.359 to roll, then it's gonna do what it's gonna do. 1535 01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:38.279 But if I put intentions on it, as in, call 1536 01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:40.880 it in the air, I have a higher probability of 1537 01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:43.520 it landing on what I'm putting it, and you're putting 1538 01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:46.640 it at a twenty five percent chance that now want 1539 01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:47.279 a better shot. 1540 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:50.520 These are different things. You're calling something in the air 1541 01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:53.119 and hoping that it's going to work out. I'm saying, 1542 01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:57.000 with intention, you know that this number is gonna get called. 1543 01:20:57.239 --> 01:20:59.399 It's not that like whenever you call a heads or 1544 01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:02.199 a tails, it's like, please be as, please beheads, please beheads. No, 1545 01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:04.960 it's like, I'm going I know that my power, my 1546 01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:09.720 whatever the fuck I am, can manipulate that those odds, 1547 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:11.319 even the slightest. 1548 01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:13.800 And this has been proven. Put it on the intention thing, 1549 01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:17.199 not just to hope, like put all the magical mental 1550 01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:20.239 things on it, like real shit. You're saying that you 1551 01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:21.800 can increase its Oh. 1552 01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:26.000 Did not mean to hit that. Sorry, good god. 1553 01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:29.600 The money. You're saying that you can put intention behind 1554 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.439 a coin flip and make it turn the way you 1555 01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:35.159 want somewhere around twenty five percent more likely. 1556 01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:37.399 I don't I don't know about a coin flip. That's 1557 01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:39.199 not the that's not the example I gave. I'm talking 1558 01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:40.479 about a random number generator. 1559 01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:44.640 Okay, So that's I just believe that. 1560 01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:47.039 I mean, that's something and maybe we'll do a show 1561 01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:50.039 on it to just show like the absolute actual power 1562 01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:51.960 of like intention. I know a lot of people think 1563 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.199 that that's woo woo, that that that's crazy. So I'm 1564 01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:58.680 telling you it is proven that your intention manipulates reality 1565 01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:01.199 around you whenever you can focus in on it enough. 1566 01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:04.319 That's really the entire basis of magic and witchcraft in 1567 01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:08.159 a nutshell. That's literally, that's like at the core, that's 1568 01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:11.199 what it is to take all the woo will walk. 1569 01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:15.039 That's really what it is. So and it's funny because 1570 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:18.920 earlier so we got the fantasy football draft right, and 1571 01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:21.119 some of the good cult members are joined up this year, 1572 01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:24.119 and and so earlier today. 1573 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:27.479 We did the draft order right, and just so that 1574 01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:29.479 it wouldn't be random. It's more fun if you if 1575 01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:32.520 you already know like when when you're going to get picked, right, 1576 01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:35.079 and we did the draft order. I put it in 1577 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:37.960 a random number generator one through twelve for the twelve teams. 1578 01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:40.960 I wasn't I would. I really didn't even have any 1579 01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:42.920 intention on what number I wanted. 1580 01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:46.560 I'm like, whatever I get, it doesn't matter, right, And 1581 01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:50.399 but what's funny is is that I went last, So 1582 01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:52.880 I did my name last to see what number I 1583 01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:54.319 was going to get, and I was just going to 1584 01:22:54.359 --> 01:22:57.640 get the number that remained right whenever I did that, 1585 01:22:57.800 --> 01:22:58.600 you know what number? 1586 01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:04.920 It was? Just hypothetically speaking, seven, I don't know. Four. 1587 01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:06.239 Oh yeah for your boy Brett. 1588 01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:08.640 Isn't that crazy? Well? 1589 01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:11.039 I mean, is that just a coincidence or was the 1590 01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:14.159 screen looking at me? I don't fucking know, But it's 1591 01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:17.359 strange how that worked out. Maybe that was a coincidence, 1592 01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:18.439 you can call it, chuck it up to that. 1593 01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:19.399 But anyway, what. 1594 01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:21.560 I'm talking about is cause and effect. I believe that 1595 01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:24.119 there is no such thing as coincidence. Therefore, you want 1596 01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.079 to call them synchronicities or whatever. I think that with intention, 1597 01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:31.279 you raise your odds. And the final hermetic principle would 1598 01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:34.720 be the principle of gender. You believe that every well 1599 01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:38.159 it says, everything contains masculine and feminine principles. 1600 01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:43.000 Okay, I do believe that traditional two genders. That's okay. 1601 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:45.039 I feel like that's not what they were saying. I 1602 01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:46.920 feel like that was going in a different realm with it. 1603 01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:47.520 But like I. 1604 01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:51.920 All right, so you agreed on five out of the 1605 01:23:52.039 --> 01:23:54.800 seven just by barely glancing glazing over them. 1606 01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:57.560 You realize I can agree with a lot of Buddhist 1607 01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:00.920 philosophy without saying that that is uh, you know, inherent 1608 01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:02.079 religious truth too? 1609 01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:04.720 Right? Sure? 1610 01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:09.520 Okay? I mean, are you going to apply some of 1611 01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:12.119 those philosophies to your life personally? 1612 01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:12.359 Know? 1613 01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:15.319 But I also understand why people would I have my 1614 01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:17.239 own philosophies that I apply to my life, even if 1615 01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:18.920 I agree with something that someone else said. 1616 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:21.039 Why would I change what I'm doing of what I 1617 01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:22.399 got going on is working for me? 1618 01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:24.199 I get it. 1619 01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:25.760 But maybe you want to throw a little fork in 1620 01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:27.560 the road, or throw a little you know what I mean, 1621 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:29.800 just get a little weird and change it up. 1622 01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:30.319 Maybe you want to. 1623 01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:31.359 I don't know. 1624 01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:34.600 The narrow is the path. 1625 01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:38.079 What I'm trying to say is that this is something 1626 01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:41.720 that I have adopted into my belief system, and whenever 1627 01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:44.920 we're talking about anything biblical, I'm trying to see how 1628 01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:48.079 it pertains to my system. Here it's not even mine, 1629 01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:51.920 it's just something that I have adopted personally. 1630 01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:54.279 I actually was thinking the same way we did an 1631 01:24:54.319 --> 01:24:58.239 episode on Zoroastrianism. I actually was already thinking about doing 1632 01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:01.279 an episode on hermeticism, not to shit on it, to 1633 01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:05.159 show the original basis for where it came from and 1634 01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:08.479 how it got transfigured into the things of the early 1635 01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:11.600 Renaissance and then the Middle Ages or Middle Ages, then Renaissance, 1636 01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:14.560 I should say, then into the revival that it saw 1637 01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:17.319 in the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds to where 1638 01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:20.640 we are today. Not to shit to have like a 1639 01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:25.399 very like a long form conversation about abc D equaled 1640 01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:26.880 EFG kind of thing. 1641 01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.560 No, I get it, and I come from and I've 1642 01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:33.279 said this before, but like I come from something like 1643 01:25:33.439 --> 01:25:34.960 I don't care who wrote something. 1644 01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:35.720 I don't care. 1645 01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:40.159 You know when when it started? You know when it ended? 1646 01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:42.000 When were the last people that have talked about it? 1647 01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:44.279 Was it something that was created fucking yesterday? 1648 01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:45.159 I don't care. 1649 01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:49.880 I think that you know yours. You have some kind 1650 01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:54.760 of spiritual truth filter in a sense to where once 1651 01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:57.960 you read something and it resonates with you, I think 1652 01:25:58.000 --> 01:25:59.439 that that proves it to be true. 1653 01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:03.239 That's my philosophy. Though we see we talked about that 1654 01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:10.880 earlier about objective truth versus objective truth, right, but we're 1655 01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:15.960 going way, way way heavy with the Philosophical Conversations this evening. 1656 01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:18.239 We have over one hundred messages that we do need 1657 01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:22.039 to get to. We are a philosophical podcast, by the way. Yeah, 1658 01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:24.239 we are listened as philosophy, so it'd be like that. 1659 01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:29.000 Look at us. He wants to be a philosophizer. Rose 1660 01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:30.520 go ahead, Spirit Animal. 1661 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:33.239 Every time I get try and read the fucking comments, 1662 01:26:33.319 --> 01:26:35.119 Spirit Animal raises his hand. 1663 01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:35.840 Go ahead, sir. 1664 01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:42.720 Just before we get off the theological stuff. To answer 1665 01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:47.199 y'all's question about the episode yesterday about what Lord my 1666 01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:51.439 God is Jesus and everything. But I guess if I'm 1667 01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:53.800 doing any work of the Lord besides Jesus, I guess 1668 01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:54.760 it's aphidaddy. 1669 01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:00.159 Okay, Oh oh you am? 1670 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:04.119 I when you be getting in there knocking boots, Yeah yeah, 1671 01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:06.279 Samy getting it in boy, he'd be laying that pipe 1672 01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:09.560 up in Georgia shout out to my homegirl, sec Mat. 1673 01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:14.600 I'm with you on that one, sir. Yeah, Oh damn it. 1674 01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:16.119 There was something else that I wanted to say on 1675 01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:18.000 top of that. Anyway, let's let's get back to it. 1676 01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:20.720 Is your hand raised again or is it? 1677 01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:21.840 Did it just not go down? 1678 01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:22.439 No? 1679 01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:24.439 I ain't going down yet, Okay, I was like. 1680 01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:27.159 Son, my bitch, all right, So I love you Sam, though, 1681 01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:31.000 Rose Pao said, what a do called peeps? Hope everyone 1682 01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:33.800 is happening an awesome day you create or love you 1683 01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:39.119 crazy fuckers? Love you, Rose, the Big d said, ten 1684 01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:39.960 Dick would be. 1685 01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:43.680 I'm writing it down. I'm writing down all these slurs 1686 01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:46.680 by the way, so far. I also Sam reminded me 1687 01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:49.880 of an I robot he called the robots canner. That 1688 01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:52.000 was a that was a phrase that he used to 1689 01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:54.760 be disparaging towards them. I like canner as well. 1690 01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:57.680 So ten Dick, that's going in the rigs. Yeah, fuck 1691 01:27:57.760 --> 01:27:58.760 you very well. 1692 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.479 Tony said, I've seen that AI can use slurs. Oh 1693 01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:05.119 that's what I asked Google what the racist term for 1694 01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:09.039 brazil uh for brazil nuts was and it gave the 1695 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:11.960 right answer. Oh yeah, no, we're not having that conversation 1696 01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:15.000 on this pod. Moving to the next comment. And also, yo, 1697 01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:18.680 AI can absolutely use slurs. Look what happened when Elmo's 1698 01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:20.600 X went off the deep end, and it was because 1699 01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:22.880 of an AI chatbot that took it over and started 1700 01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:25.319 basically talking about how Hitler would know what to do 1701 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:29.000 in a situation like this, and yeah, yeah, weird. 1702 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:31.680 Remember when you couldn't get it to say a slur 1703 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:34.399 under any circumstances, and that was the Turing test to 1704 01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:35.399 prove you were a human. 1705 01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:39.680 Yeah, my my, how things have changed. 1706 01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:46.800 Oh how the turntables, Oh how the turntables? Dirty Sanchez said, Hey, 1707 01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:51.560 howdy hey, beautiful people saying dirty and my bad San Jess. 1708 01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:56.319 It's just Jess, I think. But yeah, I know, Dirty Sanchez. 1709 01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:58.479 I get it. I love it. You're into weird shit. 1710 01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:02.239 That's all right. Spirit Animal game. We did it once 1711 01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.479 before where you type in like go to Urban Dictionary 1712 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:06.680 and type in the dirty and then put your name. 1713 01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:10.359 That's still just an oldie, but goodie, it's it's up 1714 01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:13.319 there with the top of the list of just comic gold. 1715 01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:16.119 But anyway, we did that here on this show. Oh 1716 01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:17.960 I've done it. I did it in the Marine Corps, 1717 01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:20.840 I did it in the at multiple plant sites that 1718 01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:22.119 I worked. We did it on this show. 1719 01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:22.720 That's what I'm saying. 1720 01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:24.520 It's just it's one of those things, you know, if 1721 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:27.000 you want to test the waters of your work environment 1722 01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:29.439 to see how many people are cool and how many 1723 01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:32.520 people get offended off of really stupid shit. Play the 1724 01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:35.399 play the Urban dictionary, dirty dot dot dot game and 1725 01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:38.000 you'll you'll draw lines in the sand real quick. 1726 01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:39.680 Uh. 1727 01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:42.399 Spirit animals that their mother is a fucking coaster and 1728 01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:43.680 father is a rolodex. 1729 01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:44.640 I like it. 1730 01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:47.479 I like it, Little Monty python nod there, I feel you. 1731 01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:51.680 Dirty Sanchez said, I got food poisoning Sunday night. I 1732 01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:53.560 can't seem to get it out of my system. 1733 01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:56.119 Oh fuck, sorry to hear that, Jess. 1734 01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.840 It's a magnesium that'll really get it out of there, Jesus. 1735 01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:03.960 Spirit animal said, my favorite Greek god is Poseidon. God 1736 01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:06.279 has triedent tattooed from New Rome. 1737 01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:10.840 Dope. Hell yeah, he was about to show it there. 1738 01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:13.960 Oh yeah, oh okay, t right. 1739 01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:17.520 MICHAELA said, Hi everyone, first time here, so just wanted 1740 01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:19.119 to say hello, Welcome in, Michaela. 1741 01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:24.079 Welcome Mikayla. Yeah we went deep with the phosph Fuck. 1742 01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:26.960 I can't speak now the philosophy on this episode, but 1743 01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:29.039 glad that you were here for this being your first 1744 01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:31.279 one to join in. That was It's been a while 1745 01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:34.479 one thus far, but fuck yeah, welcome Michaela. Are you 1746 01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:38.560 the one that signed up for the fantasy football? Yes, 1747 01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:42.039 let's go. I reached out to several other cult members, 1748 01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.079 and I saw I remember that name, MICHAELA so ah. 1749 01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:47.880 I can't wait. We have the draft in ten days. 1750 01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:48.920 I'm fucking stoked about that. 1751 01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:55.640 And welcome howdy, all right, everybody's welcoming or in spirit 1752 01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:59.920 animal said Muslims. A ham sandwich, A ham sandwich is hair. 1753 01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:02.079 But they pre order wives. 1754 01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:06.520 Yeah, yeah, it's one of them things, you know. And 1755 01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:08.560 by pre order we mean at the age of nine, 1756 01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:13.800 as the blessed prophet ones did and all that blood. Yeah, 1757 01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:17.640 but he waited two years because he's a gentleman, and 1758 01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:19.600 waited for her to be a whole woman at the 1759 01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:22.399 ripe old age of eleven before he consummated their marriage. 1760 01:31:22.439 --> 01:31:24.119 Praise be a hallack or some shit. 1761 01:31:24.760 --> 01:31:27.359 He made her at six and bedded the poor child 1762 01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:28.680 at nine, Like. 1763 01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:32.159 I thought it was nine to eleven. I'm a little 1764 01:31:32.159 --> 01:31:33.239 I'm a little out. 1765 01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:34.479 Of date on my musin praises. 1766 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:39.560 But to Jacob, you're thinking of the holiday? 1767 01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:45.319 Is that what I'm doing? Damn? It was six and shit, 1768 01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:47.239 it was six and nine. He married her at six 1769 01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:48.680 and then waited until she was nine. I was a 1770 01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:49.159 little off. 1771 01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:53.159 Sorry, y'all, sorry, said she was still playing with dolls. 1772 01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:58.760 Yeah, yeah, that's that's their blessed prophet who also got 1773 01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:00.520 gang bang by twelve guys in the middle of the 1774 01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:02.760 desert one night and then wrote about it later. But anyway, 1775 01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:04.800 well he didn't write it because he was an illiterate fuck. 1776 01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:07.680 But anyway, could we bring him back and force him 1777 01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:08.359 to eat spam? 1778 01:32:09.640 --> 01:32:11.960 You know, I I love Sam, I'd be hilarious. 1779 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:16.760 I'd commit the sin of necromancy and I'd bring that 1780 01:32:16.920 --> 01:32:19.119 Bashard back just to force to feed him spam. 1781 01:32:20.159 --> 01:32:22.479 If of all the things that you would do with 1782 01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:26.479 the necromancy, not bring back like Marcus Aurelius, not bring 1783 01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:27.439 back Alge. 1784 01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:32.199 I wouldn't want to break the hearts they saw things. 1785 01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:33.720 It would it would destroy them. 1786 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:34.520 How Roman fail? 1787 01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:40.079 So you can't do that? What that's fair? That's fair. Yeah, 1788 01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:42.520 we can't bring back on with George Washington either, because 1789 01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:46.159 goddamn he would be terrified of what this country has become. 1790 01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:48.680 And then yeah, like Raven Lee just said, we could 1791 01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:53.880 bring back Vladi and Paler. But yeah, you know, as 1792 01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:57.439 Christianity gets these days for being too brutal and everything, 1793 01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:03.319 perhaps bringing back Vladie wouldn't be the best move because 1794 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:07.720 he was Uh yep, that was a thing that happened. 1795 01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:10.920 He was a Christian that was raised by Muslims, so 1796 01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:12.960 he had his ways about him. You know. 1797 01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:17.279 Beard animals said, can we lay petals alive? Starting at 1798 01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:17.840 the ankles? 1799 01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:19.560 I mean, I'm down. 1800 01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:24.079 The Big d said, peel them with a potato skinner 1801 01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:25.960 and rubbed salt all over their open flesh. 1802 01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:28.279 God, you people, there's something better. 1803 01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:29.319 I love salt, y'all. 1804 01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:30.359 There's something better. 1805 01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:31.399 It's called caustic. 1806 01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:35.479 To bear with me here. It does the job very 1807 01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:38.239 very slowly and very painfully. It's like chemical burning them 1808 01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:40.520 to the bone. But anyway, moving on from. 1809 01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:46.359 The gruesomeness, Sam said, no turpentine. Okay, don't you know? 1810 01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:50.239 Tony said, can we make lampshades out of their skins? 1811 01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:51.399 Or does that cross the line? 1812 01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:54.199 I don't think. 1813 01:33:55.880 --> 01:33:58.760 Morality right, Yeah, It's just like I don't want my 1814 01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:00.199 house furnished. 1815 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:04.000 With the skins of all these evil people that I 1816 01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:04.399 don't know. 1817 01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:06.319 I like where your heads at, though, I like where 1818 01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:09.359 your head's at somebody all the time. 1819 01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:13.680 And then you can make money and fund the families 1820 01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:16.319 who have been, you know, affected by the pedophile. 1821 01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:18.880 But then who's gonna well? And I was about to 1822 01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:21.760 ask a really stupid question, like who would buy a 1823 01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:23.000 lamb shape made out of it? 1824 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:23.399 Yeah? 1825 01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:26.399 Before I could even get half of that sentence out, 1826 01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:28.840 I was like, wait a minute, the internet is real, 1827 01:34:29.239 --> 01:34:31.640 and I personally know people that want to have like 1828 01:34:32.119 --> 01:34:34.039 random bits of human remains in their home. 1829 01:34:34.199 --> 01:34:37.800 Like yeah, actually, real shit, all cards on the table here. 1830 01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:42.000 Yeah, if you were to like turn their skin into 1831 01:34:42.720 --> 01:34:46.880 like a lazy boy recliner, for instance, I probably in 1832 01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:50.039 my phone have like thirty to forty people that would 1833 01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:53.399 be fighting tooth and nail to own a lazy boy 1834 01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:54.960 recliner made from the skin of. 1835 01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:56.359 A serial killer or a pedophile. 1836 01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:57.000 Actually like it. 1837 01:34:57.239 --> 01:34:58.439 Yeah, that's a thing. 1838 01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:02.560 Oh yeah, hey look mom sitting on Lester the molester. 1839 01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:05.800 It's even like hey mom, It's more like these people 1840 01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:07.720 were just like, oh, it's so dark and eerie, and 1841 01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:10.399 I love it in my home, and it's like, you know, 1842 01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:13.520 there there is there's people out there that would absolutely 1843 01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:15.680 love to do that. Now, if you were the one 1844 01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:17.960 that killed the pedophile and it was like a war 1845 01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:20.800 trophy type thing, then I mean, do you biboo? 1846 01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:22.319 Who am I to say what you're gonna do with 1847 01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:24.560 your war trophy? That sounds like you're a business to me. 1848 01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:28.479 Yeah, I mean people put all kinds of crazy shit 1849 01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:31.000 on their walls. You were if you were to turn 1850 01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:34.039 the skull into a drinking mug, like out loud, Oh 1851 01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:35.600 my god, that's crazy. But it's like, yeah, he was 1852 01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:37.680 a pedophile that I killed. It's like, you know what, 1853 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:41.800 I really fucking like your new cup. I really do. 1854 01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:42.760 That's badass. 1855 01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:45.359 It's pretty solid, zombie. What are your thoughts? 1856 01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:54.159 Well, considering I really want this skull teapot situation, there 1857 01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:57.640 is a there's like first sale is these two skulls 1858 01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:01.239 put together and it's like an actual teapot. It's pretty legit. 1859 01:36:02.239 --> 01:36:07.039 There's people that do all sorts of human remains artwork. 1860 01:36:07.079 --> 01:36:11.000 I guess she would say, but you can't buy them. 1861 01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:15.199 There's only two states in the whole country. You can't 1862 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:20.399 get them shipped in Louisiana. 1863 01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:24.399 Your service is going back and out that you have 1864 01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:27.319 to buy them outside of the state lines and then 1865 01:36:27.479 --> 01:36:32.319 bring them inside so they can't get never mind, no. 1866 01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:34.119 No, no, we heard the majority of it. So yeah, 1867 01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:36.479 there's there are companies out there that make like home 1868 01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:39.319 decorum and things out of human remains. But if I 1869 01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:42.239 heard all that correctly. There's only like two states in 1870 01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:45.399 the country where you're allowed to actually buy them, so, 1871 01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:48.199 I mean, you know, it's dealer's choice, becouse, now buy them, 1872 01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:49.239 not buy them? 1873 01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:52.560 So you can't have Louisiana and one of their states 1874 01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:54.640 are the only states in the country that you can't 1875 01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.039 get them shipped into the state. 1876 01:36:57.840 --> 01:37:00.239 Why do I feel like the other one's Texas could 1877 01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:01.880 be so wrong here? But I feel like that's a 1878 01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:07.399 true statement. I don't know. Ooh, sorry, you're good, Mikaela. 1879 01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:10.279 I just got to turn on my mic I'm so sorry. 1880 01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:13.680 Go on, you're cool, You're cool. Uh, Matt, your hands raised? 1881 01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:14.159 What's up? Brother? 1882 01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:17.359 I just want to say to everybody who wants to 1883 01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:19.680 take out their local pedophile, because they make it really 1884 01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:23.399 easy to find those guys. There is a big difference 1885 01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:25.079 between the actual predatory. 1886 01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:27.039 They know what they're doing. 1887 01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:30.439 Pedophile and I'm gonna say a lot of the Instagram accounts, 1888 01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:33.560 they go out there and like corner these guys kind 1889 01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:35.760 of trap them, which they deserve it. 1890 01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:39.520 But most of them are like beta male autistic. 1891 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:42.920 Losers who have been completely programmed by the state, are 1892 01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:49.359 on heavy medication and by social media, and the easy 1893 01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:53.520 access of porn. So before you go smack golls, just 1894 01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:57.279 realize there are a lot of fucking weak minded people 1895 01:37:57.319 --> 01:38:00.000 who have been affected by the system to be predators 1896 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:03.520 and fuck up more and more generations. So that's just 1897 01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:06.760 kind of how I've seen it paying attention to that subject. 1898 01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:09.880 I don't I don't disagree with you by any means. 1899 01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:12.000 But then at that point, they are also what I 1900 01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:15.439 would consider criminally insane, and they are unsafe to be 1901 01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:18.399 in the population with the rest of us, even if 1902 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:21.800 they are of a IQ of twenty five. Right, if 1903 01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:25.039 they are still trying to hurt children in that way, 1904 01:38:25.479 --> 01:38:28.279 we got to remove them from the from the gene pool. 1905 01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:34.159 Absolutely, something's got I just I've seen what they're doing 1906 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:37.359 to our DNA firsthand. Like I come from a family 1907 01:38:37.439 --> 01:38:43.159 full of autism and being in that area like my 1908 01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:46.920 you know, my siblings growing up around other autistic people, 1909 01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:50.159 are being involved in like groups and stuff like that. Uh, 1910 01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:53.680 I just I see how easy it is for them 1911 01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:57.359 to overtake the population with that shit. There's so many 1912 01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:00.760 people out there like this pedophile shit is going to 1913 01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:01.760 get worse, dude. 1914 01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:04.960 But there's also levels to the autism, right, there are 1915 01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:07.479 some that are just high functioning autism, that have like 1916 01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:11.039 a social disorder and they don't really articulate their words 1917 01:39:11.079 --> 01:39:12.720 too well, and they don't get down with crowds, but 1918 01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:16.359 they're fully capable of living happy, healthy, successful lives. 1919 01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:16.640 Right. 1920 01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:19.039 Then there's the ones you're talking about that. 1921 01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:26.640 Clearly drink soda, eat pizza six times a day. Yeah, 1922 01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:31.880 like there's a weird health style in a lifestyle behind it. 1923 01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:37.840 I've noticed it's over beta males who literally can't get 1924 01:39:38.079 --> 01:39:39.039 woman to touch them. 1925 01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:42.840 And this is why Japan is creating these sex spots 1926 01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:45.680 for people like that, because there's too many young men 1927 01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:48.039 in Japan that are scared of going out to the 1928 01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:50.640 local bar and picking up a girl for themselves and 1929 01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:53.520 I mean the right way consensually and all the things 1930 01:39:54.039 --> 01:39:56.840 that they're just like, Look, we gotta have the population 1931 01:39:57.039 --> 01:39:59.199 happen in some way, shape or form. How about we 1932 01:39:59.319 --> 01:40:01.560 just start this new program where we have test two 1933 01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:04.399 babies from here on out, and we get all the 1934 01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:07.800 in cells to come and fuck essentially a pocket pussy 1935 01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:10.760 on a robot that's driven by AI, and then we 1936 01:40:10.840 --> 01:40:12.920 take that sperm sample and we have test two babies. 1937 01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:13.760 Because that's the only. 1938 01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:16.680 Way we're gonna have a population in twenty fifty hundred years. 1939 01:40:18.199 --> 01:40:21.279 The episode bro it was, it was. 1940 01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:24.079 But here we are and they're currently trying to get 1941 01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:25.600 that initiative off the ground. 1942 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:27.720 And it's scary. But that's. 1943 01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:31.359 Again, like I said earlier, of course leave it to 1944 01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:36.000 Japan to lean into that. But you know, anyway, all right, 1945 01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:40.279 back to the chat here. Hey all, first time here, Joe, welcome, 1946 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:44.800 Welcome to the I've owen Allsy and Allsy's here for 1947 01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:46.359 the first time. What's up, dude? 1948 01:40:46.600 --> 01:40:49.079 Good shit looking here? 1949 01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:54.640 Raven Lee left in article Society, Culture and History, Religion, 1950 01:40:55.119 --> 01:40:59.159 Spirituality members suggesting Smithsonium hiding the bones of giants. 1951 01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:02.399 Yes, absolutely, and we've talked about that before. 1952 01:41:02.520 --> 01:41:06.600 But yeah, I'm personally of the belief that giants at 1953 01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:09.039 one time were real, if not still real and hiding 1954 01:41:09.079 --> 01:41:09.720 in other places. 1955 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:12.560 Maybe they went underground. Maybe they're the underground people don't. 1956 01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:16.680 I don't know, Ashton. Hopefully no neffluin DNA here, just 1957 01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:20.600 some Neanderthal And I'd like to think I'm descended from 1958 01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:21.359 King David. 1959 01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:23.079 Are you a ginger Jew? 1960 01:41:24.039 --> 01:41:24.159 Oh? 1961 01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:27.880 I don't know, dude. I just came to me one day. 1962 01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:28.479 I was like, yeah. 1963 01:41:28.680 --> 01:41:29.159 Probably. 1964 01:41:29.800 --> 01:41:30.640 Wait, you're a ginger. 1965 01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:32.560 Huh No, not really. 1966 01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:35.159 Okay, if you're a ginger, you at least have a 1967 01:41:35.319 --> 01:41:37.399 bit of Neanderthal DNA inside of you. 1968 01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:39.319 I've saw a study that was talking about that. It 1969 01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:40.000 was crazy. 1970 01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:43.800 Yeah, maybe definitely a little bit here, a little bit. 1971 01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:48.680 Fucking I refused to do those DNA tests, and that 1972 01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:50.640 was way before I started listening to you guys. 1973 01:41:50.680 --> 01:41:53.640 But you guys say the same shit, and I'm like, yeah, man, I. 1974 01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:56.079 Mean I wanted to it one time for the curiosity 1975 01:41:56.159 --> 01:41:58.640 of it, but I've seen so many of those tests 1976 01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:03.720 where even one blood brothers got two very different results 1977 01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:06.399 from the same DNA tests, And I know there's reasons 1978 01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:08.760 for this, like maybe this kid favored more of the 1979 01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:11.199 dad's jeans and this kid favored more of the mom's jeans. 1980 01:42:11.199 --> 01:42:14.520 But then it's like, why would I open myself up 1981 01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:17.960 for that question knowing that that's how inaccurate the science is. 1982 01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:21.800 Then you'll find out that all the DNA test companies 1983 01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:24.960 are owned by nefarious actors, and it's like, yeah, nah, 1984 01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:25.800 I'm good on all that. 1985 01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:29.159 I saw somebody send in the test, swabbed their beard 1986 01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:31.159 a dragon and said it in and it came back like, 1987 01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:35.239 you know, just regular human and shit, that's. 1988 01:42:35.119 --> 01:42:38.399 What I'm saying, dude, Like, Okay, it's a cool theory 1989 01:42:38.720 --> 01:42:42.760 to say, like, oh, your X amount of Nordic descent, 1990 01:42:43.199 --> 01:42:46.439 X amount of sub Saharan African descent, x amount of this. 1991 01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:48.479 That's cool to think about. 1992 01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:52.479 But knowing that the science is that and that inaccurate, 1993 01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:55.800 it's you're just wasting money at that. But you know, 1994 01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:59.199 this sucker is born every mind. Man, Yes, it is cool. 1995 01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:03.000 You know if it was if it was reliable, right, 1996 01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:05.279 and also in reliable hands. 1997 01:43:07.359 --> 01:43:09.439 You know, that's that's really the big thing, because you're 1998 01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:12.079 feeding that shit over to somebody that's gonna sell it 1999 01:43:12.239 --> 01:43:14.520 or do something with it that you probably wouldn't agree to. 2000 01:43:16.479 --> 01:43:19.600 Tony said there were genocides against non giant people like 2001 01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:27.680 the Midianites and i'm Amalekites around mal Amalekites around one 2002 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:28.319 thousand BC. 2003 01:43:29.119 --> 01:43:31.520 Right, And again, if you look at the bloodline of 2004 01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:35.319 where those tribes came from, they weren't giants, but there 2005 01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:37.479 was an argument to say that they may have been 2006 01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:41.760 of Nephylimic descent, not on nephylum were giants. So I 2007 01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.000 you know, it's and I'm not saying that's a one 2008 01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:46.960 hundred percent rule. I wasn't there. I do not know, 2009 01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:50.239 but yes, I mean that's there is some shit in 2010 01:43:50.319 --> 01:43:52.000 the Bible that you do need to look at the 2011 01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:54.800 entire context to understand what the hell is happening. 2012 01:43:54.840 --> 01:43:56.000 And I've said that to people before. 2013 01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:58.239 If you read the Bible cover to cover and you 2014 01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:01.000 don't have any questions about it, I question your own 2015 01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:05.319 mental sanity real shit, or if you even paid attention 2016 01:44:05.680 --> 01:44:07.960 to it, you know, what do you mean? 2017 01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:11.640 Like, just as far as not being able to have 2018 01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:14.800 any questions, I mean, oh, you're you're going, yeah, you're 2019 01:44:15.119 --> 01:44:17.479 gonna have Maybe you just don't even know how to 2020 01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:20.079 correctly interpret something or you don't know how to understand it, 2021 01:44:20.199 --> 01:44:23.159 and what could the parable of ment kind of situation, 2022 01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:23.600 you know? 2023 01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:30.560 Right, Let's see Ashton said, cheop of Cabra the goat sucker. Okay, 2024 01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:33.920 fucking right, that's one of those uh kind of a dog, 2025 01:44:34.079 --> 01:44:37.520 but kind of a vampire type deities or entities or 2026 01:44:37.520 --> 01:44:40.039 whatever you want to call it. But even even in 2027 01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:43.239 the tribes in what we would now call Mexico, they 2028 01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:47.199 had a vampiric type of entity aside from the chuop 2029 01:44:47.239 --> 01:44:49.880 of cabra, and they they also had shape shifting, which 2030 01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:52.680 we might call like where wolf esque. 2031 01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:59.680 Uh yeah, buddy spirit animals said, giants are one hundred 2032 01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:03.039 percent real vampires in a sense, I think it's a curse. 2033 01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:06.800 I also believe that evil truly walks on the earth. Yeah, yeah, 2034 01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:09.720 number yes, look. 2035 01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:10.079 In the mirror. 2036 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:13.479 You have a little bit of evil in you. Everybody does. Yeah, 2037 01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:17.600 I mean everybody does have a little bit in them. 2038 01:45:18.439 --> 01:45:19.359 I fully agree with that. 2039 01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:21.680 I don't believe that any of us are sinless or 2040 01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:24.960 blameless one hundred percent believe everybody walking the earth is 2041 01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:27.760 just as bad and equally just as good as everyone 2042 01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:28.279 else where. 2043 01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:29.520 That's how this goes. 2044 01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:34.760 But does to sin mean does it? Does it equal evil? Huh? 2045 01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:34.960 Don't. 2046 01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:37.840 I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't say that I personally, I 2047 01:45:37.880 --> 01:45:39.800 would again me and you may have a very different 2048 01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:45.039 opinion on this. Lying, cheating, stealing, murdering, not killing, but murdering, 2049 01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:48.920 Like yeah, I would say that these are inherently evil things. 2050 01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:52.880 And our human construct might say that stealing a stick 2051 01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:55.760 of bubble gum is not equal to murdering somebody, and 2052 01:45:55.880 --> 01:45:58.880 I understand that that's human construct. My point is both 2053 01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:03.399 are of a negative nature. Both are a sin. Everybody 2054 01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:05.920 on this earth is a ciner. That's how this goes. 2055 01:46:07.319 --> 01:46:07.680 Very well. 2056 01:46:07.920 --> 01:46:13.239 Yeah, really malevolent, and the property and selfishness are not 2057 01:46:13.399 --> 01:46:16.319 quite as bad. That's I think even Protestants tend to 2058 01:46:16.399 --> 01:46:16.920 agree with that. 2059 01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:21.000 I mean, yeah, there's like the the I don't want 2060 01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:23.119 to say victimless crimes or anything like that. But my 2061 01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:25.760 point is that if we are going to put everything 2062 01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:29.760 onto a spectrum, think about it like a pH scale. Right, 2063 01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:32.800 you have your acids in your bases, no matter what 2064 01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:35.520 way you slice it. Yes, this might be a little 2065 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:39.960 less acidic than this thing, but everything is an acid. 2066 01:46:41.479 --> 01:46:42.760 That's my point on that. 2067 01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:48.560 Tony said, And it matters because today we're talking about gaza, 2068 01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:51.960 not myths about supernatural beings over three thousand years ago. 2069 01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:55.680 What is that pertaining to, Tony? I don't remember what 2070 01:46:56.159 --> 01:46:58.399 that was. In reference to sir, we. 2071 01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:01.279 Were talking a lot about old test them in warfare 2072 01:47:01.439 --> 01:47:04.640 and lots of mass killing and stuff like that. So 2073 01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:07.720 that's what I was pertaining too in my opinion, got. 2074 01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:12.520 You, got you? Oh okay, Yeah, like we're littering everybody, 2075 01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:15.880 even the women and children and stuff. Yeah, yeah, we 2076 01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.079 don't need them to be nephelum for us to go 2077 01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:24.079 into other places and slaughter. Yeah, I feel that spirit animal. 2078 01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:26.760 Go ahead, there's a hand raised button. You don't actually 2079 01:47:26.880 --> 01:47:27.800 have to raise your hand. 2080 01:47:28.600 --> 01:47:31.439 Well, you told me that you expect me to do it, 2081 01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:32.399 so I just do it now. 2082 01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:34.399 Yeah. 2083 01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:37.479 So this is actually for Jacob. I dropped a whole 2084 01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:40.760 list of lobos. It's down and the thing I think 2085 01:47:40.840 --> 01:47:41.279 you would like. 2086 01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:43.279 All Right, we're gonna get to it. We're gonna work 2087 01:47:43.279 --> 01:47:45.159 our way down the chat. But I'm gonna keep my 2088 01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:47.880 eye out for it, all right. 2089 01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:53.079 Zombie posted an article it says a Supreme Court ruling 2090 01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:56.560 has forced the Smithsonian Institution to release classified papers dating 2091 01:47:56.600 --> 01:47:59.920 from the early nineteen hundreds that proves the organization wasn't 2092 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:03.039 involved in a major historical cover up of evidence showing 2093 01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:07.159 giant giants, human remains, and the tens of thousands had 2094 01:48:07.199 --> 01:48:10.479 been uncovered all across America and were ordered to be 2095 01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:14.920 destroyed by high level administrators to protect the mainstream chronology 2096 01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:17.920 of human evolution at the time. The allegation stemming from 2097 01:48:17.960 --> 01:48:23.640 the American Institution of Alternative Archaeology, that the Smithsonian Institution 2098 01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:28.239 had had destroyed thousands of giant human remains during. 2099 01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:30.640 The Okay, I think it's just repeating itself at this point. 2100 01:48:31.399 --> 01:48:34.439 And trying to damage the reputation of the one hundred 2101 01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:37.000 and sixty eight year old institution. And that's the problem, 2102 01:48:37.359 --> 01:48:39.319 is that they're worried about their reputation. 2103 01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:42.760 It's this is actually goes back to the conversation we 2104 01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:46.520 had yesterday about academia. It's that nobody ever wants to 2105 01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.039 step out outside of all right, well, this is what 2106 01:48:49.199 --> 01:48:52.319 we believe. We can't go outside of that. This is 2107 01:48:52.359 --> 01:48:55.279 what we all believe, right right, But that's the point. 2108 01:48:55.359 --> 01:48:58.119 There was tens of thousands of giant bones that they 2109 01:48:58.239 --> 01:48:59.920 found that they. 2110 01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:01.159 Were ordered to destroy. 2111 01:49:01.920 --> 01:49:05.079 So again, just Jacobs speaking on behalf of Jacob. I 2112 01:49:05.199 --> 01:49:07.279 fully believe the giants at one time walked the earth. 2113 01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:13.159 Yeah, buddy, So the white boy Wizard said, good evening, 2114 01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:16.920 you glorious bastards. White a little late white boy wizard 2115 01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:22.760 brother said, why we always gotta get on the butt stuff, motherfuckers? 2116 01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:25.239 When were we talking about butt stuff? 2117 01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:26.800 Were we talking about butt stuff? 2118 01:49:26.800 --> 01:49:29.399 At some point? I must have missed it. And then 2119 01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:32.000 Rose Chaos said, because they always got booty on their minds. 2120 01:49:32.199 --> 01:49:34.760 That is a fact conversation. 2121 01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:38.439 I mean that was last week, but I mean, yeah, it's. 2122 01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:40.359 Again. 2123 01:49:40.920 --> 01:49:47.159 My God, now we are if you want to go there, 2124 01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:52.720 we can go there. God has love said my cat 2125 01:49:52.840 --> 01:49:54.199 does oh talking about? 2126 01:49:55.399 --> 01:49:57.399 And I can tell when you're upset fu Yeah, okay, 2127 01:49:58.680 --> 01:49:59.199 I agree. 2128 01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:03.840 And also, you know what, dude, there's this woman that 2129 01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:07.920 goes on to Lindsay Sharman's podcast called Rogueways. We've had 2130 01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:11.119 her on the show plenty of times, but love Lindsay. 2131 01:50:11.199 --> 01:50:14.840 She's one of my favorite and she has had on 2132 01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:17.840 one of her best friends, which is a animal communicator. 2133 01:50:18.239 --> 01:50:21.239 Have you ever listened to somebody do that? It's pretty 2134 01:50:21.279 --> 01:50:26.279 fucking fascinating. I've seen videos of like certain animal whisperers. 2135 01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:29.199 You know, there's the dog whisperer and the horse whisperers 2136 01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.479 and all of these things. But and I'm not saying 2137 01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:34.479 that I disagree that that's not reality, right the same 2138 01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:38.319 way that I believe certain people are born with, like 2139 01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:40.079 you said, for instance, astra projection. 2140 01:50:40.319 --> 01:50:41.920 Not trying to detract from the conversation. 2141 01:50:42.079 --> 01:50:45.079 Just bear with me here. I don't think that that's 2142 01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:49.039 something that can necessarily be taught. But maybe somebody is 2143 01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:51.720 born with an extra ability to do some shit that 2144 01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:54.800 doesn't fit neatly into our realm of medical science, right. 2145 01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:58.239 I think certain people and I've witnessed this, bro. You'll 2146 01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:00.720 see how somebody will enter a room and all the 2147 01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:02.840 animals in the house just go to this person. Naturally 2148 01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:05.359 they got the snow white gene or some shit, right, 2149 01:51:05.479 --> 01:51:07.359 They can sing to the birds and they're fucking talking 2150 01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:10.399 to them and shit. I think that some people are 2151 01:51:10.520 --> 01:51:13.600 born with just this vibe that they give off that 2152 01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:16.760 all animals just love them, and I think that's a 2153 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:20.760 real thing. So what would they be speaking to telepathically? 2154 01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:24.159 I mean, I've seen people do this that are not 2155 01:51:24.359 --> 01:51:26.920 trying to communicate with the animals. Are you're talking about 2156 01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:28.199 like the whispers and shit? 2157 01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:31.560 Yeah, Like what are they speaking to? Are they whispering 2158 01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:33.960 to the brain? Are they talking to the mind? Are 2159 01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:35.840 they speaking to the soul? What do you think is 2160 01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:36.439 going on there? 2161 01:51:36.920 --> 01:51:40.399 I actually don't think they're talking to the animals personally. 2162 01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:43.520 I think that they might have a little bit of 2163 01:51:43.600 --> 01:51:45.960 knowledge as far as like what this type of animal's 2164 01:51:46.039 --> 01:51:49.720 body language would suggest, and so they are doing things 2165 01:51:49.800 --> 01:51:53.279 that would you know, signify that the animal needs to 2166 01:51:53.399 --> 01:51:56.079 calm down, you are safe you don't need to feel threatened. 2167 01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:58.920 You know, these types of things based off of just 2168 01:51:59.319 --> 01:52:02.600 certain key character traits for each individual animal. 2169 01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:04.880 Well, I don't know how all of them do it, 2170 01:52:05.079 --> 01:52:08.000 but but this and I can't remember what her name is. 2171 01:52:08.079 --> 01:52:10.079 She's like one of my favorite episodes to listen to 2172 01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:12.680 on Roagueways whenever she comes on, because what she'll do 2173 01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:16.159 because Lindsay goes live on her show too, like we do, right, 2174 01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:20.439 and and whenever she does it, she has everybody that's 2175 01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:23.439 in the chat is able to communicate with this woman, 2176 01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:25.600 and this woman's able to communicate with everybody else, right, 2177 01:52:26.720 --> 01:52:30.239 And so this woman she'll say, you know the a 2178 01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:34.279 member of the listeners are, we'll say, all right, what 2179 01:52:34.479 --> 01:52:37.479 is what does my dog fucking David say? 2180 01:52:38.199 --> 01:52:38.359 Right? 2181 01:52:38.520 --> 01:52:41.640 Like he passed on five years ago, or he's over 2182 01:52:41.720 --> 01:52:45.399 there he's sick right now, or you know, uh, he 2183 01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:48.039 used to have so much energy and now he's just 2184 01:52:48.279 --> 01:52:49.439 like whatever, right. 2185 01:52:49.760 --> 01:52:52.159 And or maybe maybe there's nothing even wrong with him. 2186 01:52:52.279 --> 01:52:54.000 It could just be like if there's one thing that 2187 01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:55.600 he would tell me, what do you think it would be? 2188 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:58.439 Or what would he say? And she she doesn't even 2189 01:52:58.479 --> 01:53:00.359 have to look at him, like it's it's so strange. 2190 01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:03.600 She believes that she's connecting to the spirit of the animal, and. 2191 01:53:04.520 --> 01:53:09.680 It sounds crazy until like in weird ways, you can 2192 01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:12.079 kind of prove it. For an exam. I'll give you 2193 01:53:12.119 --> 01:53:16.479 an example. So let's say that I don't know, the 2194 01:53:16.560 --> 01:53:19.520 cat has been acting really fucking weird lately, and nobody 2195 01:53:19.640 --> 01:53:20.840 knows why. You take it to a vet. 2196 01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:24.239 The vet doesn't know, the owner doesn't know, or anything. 2197 01:53:24.479 --> 01:53:27.920 So she'll connect with the cat or whatever, and she'll say, 2198 01:53:28.760 --> 01:53:30.760 you know, and she'll ask it like what's wrong, like 2199 01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:33.600 why are you acting like this? And it could be 2200 01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:38.279 because of an ingredient in the new food, or it 2201 01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:41.840 could be that it's lacking on fucking iron or something 2202 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:45.680 like that. And it's so specific, like so specific as 2203 01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.479 like down to the detail, down to the ingredient, down 2204 01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:51.840 to it's the it's a kidney problem or whatever. And 2205 01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:54.920 then it's it's so specific to where the next week 2206 01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:57.039 or the next time that that woman comes back on 2207 01:53:57.960 --> 01:53:58.600 it's like, oh my. 2208 01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:00.640 God, you know you you got it right. I was 2209 01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:01.279 able to prove it. 2210 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:03.119 All I had to do was just change the food 2211 01:54:03.279 --> 01:54:05.840 or I gave I gave the dog or the cat 2212 01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:11.159 a little bit more fucking calcium or whatever, right, And it's. 2213 01:54:11.039 --> 01:54:13.680 Weird how that can be. It can be proven in 2214 01:54:13.760 --> 01:54:18.159 a sense, though I don't really have an answer. Maybe 2215 01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:20.800 it's a coincidence. I don't know, but I'm not saying 2216 01:54:20.840 --> 01:54:22.880 it is. I'm not I'm not trying to take that 2217 01:54:23.159 --> 01:54:24.359 that stance at this moment. 2218 01:54:24.720 --> 01:54:26.000 I honestly don't know how to call it. 2219 01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:27.119 I don't know. 2220 01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:31.239 So I would say that that woman is communicating with 2221 01:54:32.720 --> 01:54:36.000 the soul of that animal. Then at that point, I 2222 01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:40.119 wouldn't say necessarily to the consciousness or to the the awareness. 2223 01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:42.199 I would say that it's a I don't know that 2224 01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:43.880 we're kind of drawn splitting hairs at that point. 2225 01:54:43.920 --> 01:54:48.920 But for me, it's something that I don't get it right. 2226 01:54:49.079 --> 01:54:50.279 Yeah, I don't know how to I don't know how 2227 01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:53.119 to compartmentalize it personally, dude, I don't know. Some people 2228 01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:55.800 say things about that episode that were like, yeah, I 2229 01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:58.199 saw that movie, except it was a typewriter not a roku, 2230 01:54:58.279 --> 01:55:02.479 and I'm just like the all right, all right, I 2231 01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:03.600 mean it was her experience. 2232 01:55:04.039 --> 01:55:04.359 I know. 2233 01:55:04.439 --> 01:55:06.560 I'm not trying to detract from it anyway, And I 2234 01:55:07.039 --> 01:55:09.199 don't know. I don't really know how to call that 2235 01:55:10.479 --> 01:55:12.920 At that point, It's like, well, are psychics whenever they're 2236 01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:16.079 communicating with somebody from the other side, are they communicating 2237 01:55:16.119 --> 01:55:19.079 with the soul or are they communicating with the mind 2238 01:55:19.239 --> 01:55:22.520 of that person, the consciousness of that person, and that, 2239 01:55:22.680 --> 01:55:24.520 like you said, we're kind of splitting hairs at this point. 2240 01:55:25.119 --> 01:55:25.600 I don't. 2241 01:55:25.800 --> 01:55:28.720 I don't fucking know, bro. I mean, would you say, though, 2242 01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:32.720 I mean, whether whether she whether she was experiencing that 2243 01:55:33.039 --> 01:55:36.159 in the legit way that she says or not. Would 2244 01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:39.920 you say that you believed that she believed what she 2245 01:55:40.079 --> 01:55:50.920 was saying. Yeah, no grifter mentality going on there. I mean, 2246 01:55:51.640 --> 01:55:53.199 I don't know if she's trying to make money off 2247 01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:54.880 it or anything. Does she write a book about her 2248 01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:57.479 talking to her grandmother or something. She did write a book. 2249 01:55:57.479 --> 01:56:00.920 I actually just got it in the mail. Not get 2250 01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:01.319 you rich. 2251 01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:04.640 It only has it only has like eighty fucking reviews 2252 01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:06.720 or whatever on it. But I'm not It's not like 2253 01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:09.039 it's not by any means of New York Times best steller. 2254 01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:12.079 I'm not gonna inherently call her a grifter, you know, 2255 01:56:12.199 --> 01:56:13.840 I don't. I don't know where that well. We had 2256 01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:15.720 one episode with her and she seemed to be a 2257 01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:19.960 decent person. I don't know, Okay, I get it. 2258 01:56:21.079 --> 01:56:23.520 Let's see Spirit Animals said the AI and R two 2259 01:56:23.600 --> 01:56:27.119 D two is fucking creepy on how they are so lifelike. 2260 01:56:28.239 --> 01:56:31.720 A redemption to not two D two in my bad. 2261 01:56:34.119 --> 01:56:36.560 R D R D R two. I'm sorry, I read 2262 01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:40.520 that wrong. Red dead okay, And oh yeah, that's right. 2263 01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:42.319 They did put a I in there. I forgot about 2264 01:56:42.359 --> 01:56:43.520 that one. Mm hmm. 2265 01:56:43.720 --> 01:56:46.239 Remember that old guy was having that conversation with the 2266 01:56:46.279 --> 01:56:47.720 player saying that, like, this is. 2267 01:56:47.720 --> 01:56:50.840 All a simulation. How do you know that you're even real? 2268 01:56:50.960 --> 01:56:52.720 I know I'm not, And it was we played that 2269 01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:54.159 on an episode a couple of years back. 2270 01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:59.720 Yeah, there's also an NPC called the Mad Pleacher, who's 2271 01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:03.760 uh the way he talks about he's told, uh it 2272 01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:07.680 was he's obviously was abducted by Adians whatever, but some 2273 01:57:07.840 --> 01:57:10.760 of the the downlogue he says, if you listen to it, 2274 01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:14.600 it could also uh be he it was probably one 2275 01:57:14.600 --> 01:57:19.119 of the watchers that probed him. So there's a lot 2276 01:57:19.199 --> 01:57:22.359 of there's even a vampire and all, and uh there's 2277 01:57:22.399 --> 01:57:25.279 a cult and that there's uh the Heaven's Gate cult 2278 01:57:25.399 --> 01:57:27.800 is referenced in it too, and it's pretty cool. 2279 01:57:27.880 --> 01:57:33.920 Nice. Wow, Okay, um Claire said, my cat plots my 2280 01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:34.760 death in my sleep. 2281 01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:36.239 Nice. 2282 01:57:36.840 --> 01:57:40.199 That's probably probably counts. I had two cats up until recently, 2283 01:57:40.319 --> 01:57:42.880 thank god they're no longer here, and I am convinced 2284 01:57:42.920 --> 01:57:46.520 that one of them plotted my death every single fucking day. 2285 01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:48.840 The other one I think couldn't give a fuck less 2286 01:57:49.119 --> 01:57:53.079 about like any aspect of living, honestly. 2287 01:57:53.199 --> 01:57:56.680 But anyway, Ashton said, it's because when an eighteen wheeler 2288 01:57:56.760 --> 01:57:59.000 hits a deer, they literally evaporate and their skin rolls 2289 01:57:59.079 --> 01:57:59.640 up like a rouge. 2290 01:57:59.640 --> 01:58:00.960 I don't think think it was an eighteen wheeler. I 2291 01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:03.079 think it was. I think it was just a regular 2292 01:58:03.159 --> 01:58:05.880 car that hit that deer. You know what, Jacob, if 2293 01:58:05.960 --> 01:58:07.800 you will read the comments, I'm gonna try and see 2294 01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:09.960 if I can find that video. All right, fuck you? 2295 01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:13.239 All right, let's see people under estimate cats. 2296 01:58:13.319 --> 01:58:14.840 God is love. Yeah, I'm with you. 2297 01:58:15.079 --> 01:58:17.880 There's a reason why Egyptians worshiped them in some way shape, 2298 01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:20.039 or at least feared them as guardians of the underworld. 2299 01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:21.039 I'm not negating that. 2300 01:58:21.239 --> 01:58:21.439 You know. 2301 01:58:22.640 --> 01:58:26.119 Let's see, Nick said, fallen trees laid with the daughters 2302 01:58:26.159 --> 01:58:29.640 of men the fallen trees laid with the daughter of men. 2303 01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:32.880 You mean the fallen angels lay with the dollars of 2304 01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:33.880 men and made nephelom. 2305 01:58:34.159 --> 01:58:36.119 I was trying to make a joke whenever. Okay, I 2306 01:58:36.279 --> 01:58:40.039 was talking about the fallen trees at the vikings. 2307 01:58:39.680 --> 01:58:42.600 And AH got you, I got you gave them that 2308 01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:43.079 old wood. 2309 01:58:43.399 --> 01:58:44.039 Yeah, I feel that. 2310 01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:45.000 Uh. 2311 01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:50.039 Moving on, MICHAELA says, what about horses as far as 2312 01:58:50.079 --> 01:58:50.760 like having souls? 2313 01:58:50.800 --> 01:58:53.239 You mean, Mikayla, Yeah, And you were talking about how 2314 01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:57.560 the like dogs can sense emotional You're basically describing an 2315 01:58:57.560 --> 01:58:58.640 emotional sport animal. 2316 01:58:59.000 --> 01:58:59.359 And I don't know. 2317 01:58:59.359 --> 01:59:00.840 I've worked for the lot of horses, so I was 2318 01:59:00.920 --> 01:59:03.479 just curious, Like you just said, I understand, like no, 2319 01:59:03.640 --> 01:59:05.800 cat like cattle not really being a part of that 2320 01:59:05.960 --> 01:59:08.960 or livestock, but horses are different. 2321 01:59:11.079 --> 01:59:13.520 I'm with you one hundred percent. Horses have But that's 2322 01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:16.279 the other thing too. Humans have worked closely with horses, 2323 01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:18.840 not just raise them as livestock. We have worked with 2324 01:59:19.079 --> 01:59:24.319 them for thousands of years inherently, and I would even say, 2325 01:59:24.359 --> 01:59:27.479 for this context, evolutionally, I think would make sense that 2326 01:59:27.720 --> 01:59:30.359 we and horses have a deeper type of connection the 2327 01:59:30.399 --> 01:59:32.880 same way that humans and dogs do as well. And 2328 01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:35.960 as far as emotional support horses goes, I know veterans 2329 01:59:36.039 --> 01:59:39.359 that are using horse therapy as a way to help 2330 01:59:39.439 --> 01:59:42.840 them with PTSD, which is crazy unless you look at 2331 01:59:43.359 --> 01:59:43.960 how it works. 2332 01:59:44.079 --> 01:59:45.000 It's mind blowing. 2333 01:59:45.439 --> 01:59:45.640 Yeah. 2334 01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:48.640 I worked with a horse who specialized in like helping 2335 01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:55.159 like handicapped disabled kids ride so like very adaptive. And 2336 01:59:55.399 --> 01:59:57.800 when I was I was round this one horse for 2337 01:59:57.840 --> 02:00:00.439 a little while that I got pregnant and orse like 2338 02:00:00.760 --> 02:00:03.520 knew something was up, like they have that, Like how 2339 02:00:03.640 --> 02:00:06.800 dogs can sense that like something has changed, like horses 2340 02:00:06.880 --> 02:00:07.840 have that same thing. 2341 02:00:08.079 --> 02:00:10.439 So I don't just good for thought. 2342 02:00:10.479 --> 02:00:12.840 I guess I'm with you one hundred percent. I think 2343 02:00:12.920 --> 02:00:16.520 horses are also in that uh anomaly category. As far 2344 02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:20.840 as animals that have a connection to humans, Uh, Joe, 2345 02:00:21.079 --> 02:00:25.279 you guys should read about the Lawrence Anthony About Lawrence Anthony, 2346 02:00:25.439 --> 02:00:30.560 a conservationalist who died in Africa at the hands of elephants, 2347 02:00:31.199 --> 02:00:35.439 traveled hours to mourn his death the same day. Elephants 2348 02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:38.199 are another one. Elephants are another one of these animals. 2349 02:00:38.319 --> 02:00:41.680 Humans have trained elephants from a long way back. How 2350 02:00:41.720 --> 02:00:44.640 they still fight with them and use them as beasts 2351 02:00:44.680 --> 02:00:47.119 of burden in Southeast Asia. 2352 02:00:47.640 --> 02:00:49.640 So war elephants have been a thing for a very 2353 02:00:49.680 --> 02:00:51.039 long time. Humans have used them. 2354 02:00:51.079 --> 02:00:53.399 It's it would stand to reason that they have an 2355 02:00:53.479 --> 02:00:56.920 inherent connection to humans that most other animals in the 2356 02:00:56.960 --> 02:00:59.640 animal kingdom do not. I could see that one hundred percent. 2357 02:01:00.760 --> 02:01:03.279 God is love, says I love my cat. We are 2358 02:01:03.359 --> 02:01:06.880 on the trip right now. He travels with me. He's 2359 02:01:06.920 --> 02:01:09.920 great because I bothered to train him. Yo, training a 2360 02:01:10.039 --> 02:01:12.840 cat is fucking difficult. Kudos to you for sticking with it. 2361 02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:14.319 Does he's pissing the toilet. 2362 02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:20.199 He has before, No, dude, that is legit. 2363 02:01:21.199 --> 02:01:23.399 I got up to go to the bathroom one night 2364 02:01:23.479 --> 02:01:25.319 and he hopped up on there on the toilet and 2365 02:01:25.359 --> 02:01:26.479 started pissing before me. 2366 02:01:28.279 --> 02:01:29.359 Son of a bitch. 2367 02:01:29.840 --> 02:01:33.199 And I'm convinced if I would have had some you 2368 02:01:33.279 --> 02:01:35.479 know how they put the little potty training thing in 2369 02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:36.840 the toilet for kids. 2370 02:01:36.920 --> 02:01:37.720 Yeah, if I didn't. 2371 02:01:37.800 --> 02:01:39.600 If I did that with a litter box, I almost 2372 02:01:39.680 --> 02:01:41.840 guarantee you I liked to train him to use a toilet. 2373 02:01:42.279 --> 02:01:42.359 Bro. 2374 02:01:42.479 --> 02:01:44.520 I've seen them. They like these little bowls of litter 2375 02:01:44.600 --> 02:01:47.039 that you clip onto the lip of the toilet, and 2376 02:01:47.159 --> 02:01:50.079 they they that's how you train a cat to piss 2377 02:01:50.439 --> 02:01:52.640 in a toilet and shit in a toilet and it's 2378 02:01:52.720 --> 02:01:56.560 like a real thing that happens. But man, at the 2379 02:01:57.000 --> 02:01:59.640 amount of patience and time it would take to get 2380 02:01:59.720 --> 02:02:01.479 him to do it, even without the litter, that is 2381 02:02:01.560 --> 02:02:03.680 fucking insane. So the fact that you even saw your 2382 02:02:03.720 --> 02:02:09.279 cat do this one time is impressive. Bro, Holyes, you 2383 02:02:09.479 --> 02:02:11.560 just got to get a Robert de Niro to train 2384 02:02:11.640 --> 02:02:13.920 that cat. Broll. I'm saying, he's got his own jinxy 2385 02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:14.479 cat dog. 2386 02:02:15.600 --> 02:02:21.720 Yeah, Bro, I can take him to like any hotel. 2387 02:02:21.960 --> 02:02:22.119 You know. 2388 02:02:22.279 --> 02:02:24.319 We've been across the country and just let him out 2389 02:02:24.399 --> 02:02:24.960 the front door. 2390 02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:26.760 Like when we were at bro Grove. 2391 02:02:26.800 --> 02:02:28.680 I let him out the front door, and I have 2392 02:02:28.800 --> 02:02:31.199 no idea how, but he ended up going around behind 2393 02:02:31.239 --> 02:02:35.960 the building, popping over the balcony and finding my hotel door. 2394 02:02:37.760 --> 02:02:38.479 That's crazy. 2395 02:02:39.239 --> 02:02:39.520 Wow. 2396 02:02:39.760 --> 02:02:42.560 Okay, and you brought your cat with you to to 2397 02:02:42.680 --> 02:02:43.199 bro Grove. 2398 02:02:44.199 --> 02:02:46.920 Bro, we drove from Austen to Virginia, all the way 2399 02:02:46.960 --> 02:02:48.479 down to there, and then all the way down to 2400 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:49.319 Miami after that. 2401 02:02:50.199 --> 02:02:58.920 Nice, he's been on a plane. Yeah, that's legit, dude. 2402 02:03:00.800 --> 02:03:06.479 Or yeah, Jacob, why boy Wizard says altered carbon thing. 2403 02:03:06.560 --> 02:03:08.840 That might have been a reference to a conversation they 2404 02:03:08.840 --> 02:03:11.119 were having in the chat earlier. I'm not a hundred person. 2405 02:03:11.359 --> 02:03:13.520 Oh that's as far as like Ai and stuff. I 2406 02:03:14.239 --> 02:03:17.039 tried watching it. Oh, by the way, Nick, yesterday I 2407 02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:21.039 started watching his Dark Materials. I'm on episode four right now, finally. 2408 02:03:21.239 --> 02:03:21.399 Yes. 2409 02:03:24.680 --> 02:03:28.199 Yeah, it's an HBO show where they talk about demons 2410 02:03:28.359 --> 02:03:33.439 in the traditional sense of like Damon's. Okay, it's pretty cool, 2411 02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:36.880 which is basically like just like their their pets or 2412 02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:39.720 their animals, but it's like also their spirit guide in 2413 02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:40.159 a sense. 2414 02:03:40.279 --> 02:03:41.079 It's pretty interesting. 2415 02:03:41.880 --> 02:03:42.640 Okay, that's crazy. 2416 02:03:45.479 --> 02:03:46.079 You know who it is? 2417 02:03:46.199 --> 02:03:46.520 I dude. 2418 02:03:46.520 --> 02:03:48.319 They got a lot of famous actors in that show. 2419 02:03:49.239 --> 02:03:55.239 The Little Girl that was Logan the spinoff. If you 2420 02:03:55.319 --> 02:03:58.039 ever seen Logan, which is Wolf's old man Logan, she 2421 02:03:58.239 --> 02:04:02.800 was the little the Little Woven Girl and what's his 2422 02:04:02.920 --> 02:04:08.039 name from Split Fucking Professor X? Yeah, yeah, the younger 2423 02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:10.479 the Younger Professor X. I can never remember his name. 2424 02:04:10.760 --> 02:04:14.640 You're gonna be like that back of boy, what's yeah? 2425 02:04:14.720 --> 02:04:17.399 James McAboy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, who's the dude? 2426 02:04:18.680 --> 02:04:22.159 The dates? The thirty year olds less than thirty Leah 2427 02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:24.279 yeah real leoh yeah, you're gonna be like that the 2428 02:04:24.359 --> 02:04:26.720 meme where he's like pointing at ship throughout the rest 2429 02:04:26.760 --> 02:04:27.720 of the show. 2430 02:04:27.920 --> 02:04:29.319 I swear, I love how. 2431 02:04:29.239 --> 02:04:31.560 I always knew who you were talking about as soon 2432 02:04:31.640 --> 02:04:33.920 as you mentioned that. There's like a handful of actors 2433 02:04:33.960 --> 02:04:36.000 that could have been, but all of us inherently knew 2434 02:04:36.039 --> 02:04:36.479 you meant le. 2435 02:04:36.560 --> 02:04:36.760 Yeah. 2436 02:04:37.119 --> 02:04:38.880 I knew that you would know. So that's what I 2437 02:04:39.560 --> 02:04:40.720 was like, I did that. 2438 02:04:40.880 --> 02:04:43.079 This is this is all I got that could be. 2439 02:04:43.960 --> 02:04:45.800 But somehow I knew you meant you boy. 2440 02:04:46.039 --> 02:04:49.399 But you know, Tom Cruise just he dumps them whenever 2441 02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:50.319 they turned thirty three. 2442 02:04:51.079 --> 02:04:52.199 I thought it was twenty seven. 2443 02:04:53.159 --> 02:04:55.960 No, it's thirty three. Remember like we we tied that 2444 02:04:56.039 --> 02:04:58.439 all together where he dated like three different girls. As 2445 02:04:58.479 --> 02:05:00.159 soon as they got to thirty three, he done. 2446 02:05:00.079 --> 02:05:00.479 All of them. 2447 02:05:00.800 --> 02:05:01.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's weird. 2448 02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:03.439 It's right, or. 2449 02:05:03.479 --> 02:05:07.119 Divorce them or whatever. Joe said. You guys should read 2450 02:05:07.159 --> 02:05:08.760 about Lawrence Anthony. 2451 02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:12.159 Read earlier conservation. 2452 02:05:12.239 --> 02:05:14.920 Oh you already read that part, okay. Yeah, I'm I'm 2453 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:16.720 a little behind. Okay, I see where we're at now. 2454 02:05:17.680 --> 02:05:19.800 God is Love said the point of Marvel movies is 2455 02:05:19.880 --> 02:05:23.399 blasphemy against God. Hence every hero declaring I am among 2456 02:05:23.439 --> 02:05:26.520 a thousand other examples, and Doctor Strange was literally based 2457 02:05:26.520 --> 02:05:30.800 one hundred percent on Crowley. Oh yeah, dude, yeah, especially 2458 02:05:30.920 --> 02:05:36.640 the the what was that the Multiverse of Madness? Great movie, 2459 02:05:36.800 --> 02:05:39.319 but yeah, that's where he gets like the really terrible 2460 02:05:40.000 --> 02:05:44.079 third Eye AI looking shit bad movies. 2461 02:05:44.399 --> 02:05:48.439 The point of Marvel movies is blasphemy against God. I'm 2462 02:05:48.479 --> 02:05:51.239 not gonna say that I disagree with you. I'm gonna 2463 02:05:51.239 --> 02:05:53.680 have to look at each individual character and like go 2464 02:05:53.920 --> 02:05:59.399 deeper on that one. But okay, blasphemy against Christian God, right, right? 2465 02:06:00.920 --> 02:06:03.640 Uh, I would really be interesting to see, uh, you 2466 02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:08.840 know Jonathan's breakdown of that Good Fight Ministry series on 2467 02:06:09.640 --> 02:06:12.520 you know, it's called Marvel's War on God. And also 2468 02:06:12.640 --> 02:06:16.600 there was two versions of previous versions of Doctor Strange, 2469 02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:20.880 and the original one was like literally, you know, looked 2470 02:06:20.920 --> 02:06:24.880 exactly like Crowley, like ball guy smoked the pipe like 2471 02:06:25.079 --> 02:06:26.319 same similar story. 2472 02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:27.600 It was crazy. 2473 02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:32.000 That's why you love Marvel movies so much. You blasphemer 2474 02:06:33.399 --> 02:06:34.399 I Satan. 2475 02:06:35.279 --> 02:06:36.960 This is an anagram for Ashton. 2476 02:06:38.319 --> 02:06:43.560 Oh hey, all right, smoke meth in hell Satan, you 2477 02:06:43.640 --> 02:06:50.359 know that whole thing. Yeah, I mean I'm interested in 2478 02:06:50.399 --> 02:06:53.560 all that symbolism. Shit though, Like if you see what 2479 02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:59.119 was it, Chris Pratt, He's like he's He's star Lord 2480 02:06:59.279 --> 02:07:02.079 and he is in love with Gomorrah for example, like 2481 02:07:02.560 --> 02:07:03.520 say less already. 2482 02:07:03.800 --> 02:07:06.840 You know, yeah, I still do like Cosprat though I 2483 02:07:07.000 --> 02:07:10.079 know that people shit on him for being a fake Christian. 2484 02:07:10.800 --> 02:07:12.880 Uh And a lot of interviews that I've seen with him, 2485 02:07:12.920 --> 02:07:14.840 in a lot of videos where he talks about his faith, 2486 02:07:14.920 --> 02:07:18.399 he seems genuine. But you know, I understand people having 2487 02:07:18.439 --> 02:07:21.640 an opinion. I get it. I mean, Joe Biden's a 2488 02:07:21.680 --> 02:07:27.800 Catholic allegedly. I okay, I know tons of Catholics that 2489 02:07:27.880 --> 02:07:30.079 are crazy as fuck. I know a lot of Protestants 2490 02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:31.880 that are crazy as fuck. I should mention that as well. 2491 02:07:32.920 --> 02:07:35.119 Oh no, I'm just saying even the pedophiles can choose 2492 02:07:35.119 --> 02:07:35.560 a religion. 2493 02:07:36.439 --> 02:07:37.840 Very true, very true. 2494 02:07:39.680 --> 02:07:42.680 Where are we? Spirit? Animals said? In the beginning was 2495 02:07:42.720 --> 02:07:44.159 the word? And the word was with him? And the 2496 02:07:44.199 --> 02:07:48.760 word was was him? John one one? Yep, God his 2497 02:07:48.840 --> 02:07:49.199 love said. 2498 02:07:49.239 --> 02:07:52.680 Shroud of turn pretty conclusively proves Jesus with supernatural aka 2499 02:07:52.920 --> 02:07:53.640 God in the flesh. 2500 02:07:54.520 --> 02:07:56.399 Yeah, speaking of the Shroud of torn, we don't have 2501 02:07:56.399 --> 02:07:57.880 to spend too much time on this. But did you 2502 02:07:57.920 --> 02:08:03.760 see recently that some genius tried debunking it by saying 2503 02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:06.720 that it wasn't actually a death stroud that it was 2504 02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:10.520 because he like took AI. Again, I'm not trying to 2505 02:08:10.560 --> 02:08:12.920 shit on AI here, but this guy used AI to 2506 02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:16.479 basically recreate what the body that would have made that 2507 02:08:16.600 --> 02:08:18.840 shape inside of this cloth stretched out and all this 2508 02:08:18.920 --> 02:08:21.079 would have looked like. And he said that it couldn't 2509 02:08:21.079 --> 02:08:22.600 have been wrapped around a body. It had to have 2510 02:08:22.680 --> 02:08:27.000 been wrapped around a basically an etching on top of 2511 02:08:27.439 --> 02:08:29.760 a piece of rock, and that's the only way I 2512 02:08:29.760 --> 02:08:31.800 could have made this shape. And then you had this 2513 02:08:31.960 --> 02:08:35.520 whole team of scientists who I don't necessarily think that 2514 02:08:35.600 --> 02:08:38.000 these were religious people or they weren't coming at it 2515 02:08:38.039 --> 02:08:40.159 from a religious sense. They were just trying to break 2516 02:08:40.239 --> 02:08:42.840 down his study and try to show, like, hold on, 2517 02:08:43.079 --> 02:08:46.520 is there any validity to this? And they fucking trounced 2518 02:08:46.680 --> 02:08:52.399 this guy within an inch of his fucking life. Yeah, 2519 02:08:52.560 --> 02:08:56.399 I mean, people were willing to go to crazy lengths. 2520 02:08:57.399 --> 02:09:01.520 It's crazy, but yeah, I mean I actually will buck 2521 02:09:01.600 --> 02:09:02.680 up against that for a second. 2522 02:09:02.720 --> 02:09:05.800 The shout of term pretty conclusively proves that Jesus was supernatural. 2523 02:09:05.880 --> 02:09:08.479 I'll agree with that God in the flesh. 2524 02:09:10.960 --> 02:09:14.159 I darn't know. I'm with you about that one. I 2525 02:09:14.319 --> 02:09:17.760 personally believe so, but I understand why you wouldn't think so. 2526 02:09:17.800 --> 02:09:19.960 And I'm not saying that in a disparaging way. I'm 2527 02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:22.279 saying that at that point, that's where the faith comes in, 2528 02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:24.600 and I respect that you and I share different faith. 2529 02:09:25.479 --> 02:09:28.479 Right look at us we're growing up, Jacob, look at 2530 02:09:28.560 --> 02:09:31.359 us being grown as fucking adults or some gay shit. 2531 02:09:32.039 --> 02:09:35.000 I I just and there's multiple different things that could 2532 02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:38.479 be happening right there. So it could be maybe it's 2533 02:09:38.520 --> 02:09:42.239 some kind of technology that was lost to the sands 2534 02:09:42.239 --> 02:09:42.560 of time. 2535 02:09:42.800 --> 02:09:43.199 We don't know. 2536 02:09:43.359 --> 02:09:46.239 There's a lot of like ancient tools and ancient things 2537 02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:48.880 that people did way back when that we, you know, 2538 02:09:49.159 --> 02:09:52.479 just don't know how to do anymore. There. 2539 02:09:52.680 --> 02:09:55.079 I think that I personally believe that people were a 2540 02:09:55.119 --> 02:09:58.840 lot fucking smarter back then than we are now, and 2541 02:09:59.239 --> 02:10:00.600 just person simly. 2542 02:10:01.760 --> 02:10:02.920 Different types of smart. 2543 02:10:03.359 --> 02:10:06.239 Right, Like there's a both shorts and street smarts, and 2544 02:10:06.319 --> 02:10:09.520 that's different than common sense, and that's different than old 2545 02:10:09.560 --> 02:10:12.439 school farmhand knowledge, and like there's. 2546 02:10:12.079 --> 02:10:12.600 Levels to this. 2547 02:10:13.199 --> 02:10:18.039 I feel like they were able to maximize what a 2548 02:10:18.239 --> 02:10:19.399 human was able to. 2549 02:10:19.479 --> 02:10:27.039 Do consciously spiritually, I'll say that whereas we're not, you know, 2550 02:10:27.119 --> 02:10:30.800 it's kind of forgotten kind of shit. But also, I mean, 2551 02:10:30.840 --> 02:10:33.840 it could just be a It could be an. 2552 02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:37.199 Actual technology, could be a spiritual quote unquote technology. It 2553 02:10:37.279 --> 02:10:40.319 could be one of the oh what do they call 2554 02:10:40.479 --> 02:10:44.439 the I don't know, like something that is supernatural power 2555 02:10:44.479 --> 02:10:46.279 that you get on your way to enlightenment. I don't know, 2556 02:10:46.840 --> 02:10:52.039 I don't I don't know. Samadi Mdi Samadi, something like that. 2557 02:10:52.159 --> 02:10:56.600 I think city, Yeah, city, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, 2558 02:10:57.800 --> 02:10:58.600 could be something like that. 2559 02:10:58.920 --> 02:11:00.960 There's just and so that's why I say I'm not 2560 02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:02.800 going to say that, Well, see that was him and 2561 02:11:03.000 --> 02:11:04.640 this is he did this, So that means that he 2562 02:11:04.720 --> 02:11:05.359 was got in the flesh. 2563 02:11:06.000 --> 02:11:09.119 I think that there you have to you know, account 2564 02:11:09.239 --> 02:11:11.560 the shroud doesn't prove it to me personally. He was 2565 02:11:11.600 --> 02:11:14.600 God in the flesh, It was everything else in his life. 2566 02:11:14.680 --> 02:11:17.479 The shroud just puts a direct time stamp on it. 2567 02:11:17.680 --> 02:11:20.920 But again, you and I share different styles of faith. 2568 02:11:21.159 --> 02:11:22.439 But moving on, Tony. 2569 02:11:22.720 --> 02:11:26.520 Tony said Old Testament genocides would be considered wrong today, 2570 02:11:26.640 --> 02:11:30.319 right spirit animals said no, because they were ordained by God. 2571 02:11:31.560 --> 02:11:34.359 Tony said, yes, in my opinion, I agree with that. 2572 02:11:34.760 --> 02:11:38.439 Spirit animals said, kill them all, God sort them out. 2573 02:11:38.600 --> 02:11:40.880 But if God tells me to wipe out a bloodline, 2574 02:11:40.920 --> 02:11:43.800 no questions God, God's will must be done. What if 2575 02:11:43.800 --> 02:11:45.840 God told you to kill yourself, Sam, would you do that? 2576 02:11:46.000 --> 02:11:50.319 Then that is not Lord, that would be the devil masquerading. 2577 02:11:51.119 --> 02:11:55.039 Good answer, because God said, because that would be a 2578 02:11:55.119 --> 02:11:58.920 sin you you have did you have killed yourself when 2579 02:11:59.119 --> 02:12:01.560 you are a creation of the Lord. But and he 2580 02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:05.119 expressly said, like you can take Judas, he committed suicide 2581 02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:09.479 and he was cursed there go, do not commit a suicide. 2582 02:12:11.720 --> 02:12:14.880 That's mentioned even before Judas, they mentioned that suicide is 2583 02:12:15.000 --> 02:12:17.359 not a good thing to do. I mean, I don't 2584 02:12:17.359 --> 02:12:20.520 even think that's necessarily an inherently Christian thing. 2585 02:12:22.560 --> 02:12:26.199 Even the demons that Jesus cast out and throw into 2586 02:12:26.279 --> 02:12:29.600 the pigs, the pigs committed suicide because they rather die 2587 02:12:29.680 --> 02:12:34.640 than be possessed by this what to be possessed and 2588 02:12:34.880 --> 02:12:36.079 pigs are like a very. 2589 02:12:36.039 --> 02:12:38.760 Taboo thing in both Islam and Judaism. 2590 02:12:39.520 --> 02:12:43.960 Yeah, but suicide inherently is not or let me let 2591 02:12:44.000 --> 02:12:48.800 me word this correctly. Having anti suicide sentiments being taught 2592 02:12:49.479 --> 02:12:53.840 is not inherently a Christian thing, but also suicide itself. 2593 02:12:53.880 --> 02:12:57.560 I mean, even ancient Rome, they would a lot of 2594 02:12:57.600 --> 02:12:59.520 people committed suicide and they thought that that was the 2595 02:12:59.560 --> 02:13:02.079 correct way to go. They would throw a big ass party, 2596 02:13:02.119 --> 02:13:03.520 then they would go and run them a hot bath 2597 02:13:03.560 --> 02:13:05.640 and split their wrists and that'd be they them going 2598 02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:06.560 out on their terms. 2599 02:13:06.600 --> 02:13:10.479 And you can look at Japan committing suicide. 2600 02:13:10.359 --> 02:13:13.000 Not just suppuku, but even like uh, they had a 2601 02:13:13.079 --> 02:13:16.680 different they had a different relationship with death as a whole. 2602 02:13:17.079 --> 02:13:19.359 You see what I'm saying. But that being said, it's 2603 02:13:19.359 --> 02:13:22.760 not that Christianity or even Judaism were the first people 2604 02:13:22.800 --> 02:13:25.279 to say, hey, wait a minute, killing yourself is probably 2605 02:13:25.359 --> 02:13:28.479 a bad idea. That's one of those things that depending 2606 02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:31.439 on the culture to which you lived, some people saw 2607 02:13:31.479 --> 02:13:33.359 it as an inherently good thing, some people saw it 2608 02:13:33.399 --> 02:13:35.479 as an inherently bad thing. Some people saw it as 2609 02:13:35.560 --> 02:13:38.800 a very much neutral things. That's one of those weird 2610 02:13:38.840 --> 02:13:41.439 ones in the span of history and culture. 2611 02:13:42.359 --> 02:13:42.720 I don't know. 2612 02:13:42.920 --> 02:13:46.239 I don't think that it helps anybody by telling them 2613 02:13:46.319 --> 02:13:48.159 that they're going to be condemned to hell if they 2614 02:13:48.239 --> 02:13:51.079 commit suicide, because personally if the people are going to 2615 02:13:51.159 --> 02:13:53.479 commit suicide, they're not going to be like, oh wait, 2616 02:13:53.600 --> 02:13:55.600 I go to hell if I do this. Let me 2617 02:13:55.680 --> 02:13:57.520 not do this. I don't even think that that would 2618 02:13:57.520 --> 02:13:59.319 be something that would cross into somebody's mind. 2619 02:14:00.079 --> 02:14:04.760 Hmmm, you'd be surprised, you think so, you would be surprised. 2620 02:14:05.159 --> 02:14:09.720 Yeah, interesting, Nick, Go ahead, sir, A. 2621 02:14:09.720 --> 02:14:12.800 Couple things on that. So you mentioned the if God 2622 02:14:12.880 --> 02:14:15.640 told you to kill yourself, would you do it? What 2623 02:14:15.960 --> 02:14:19.520 is I guess if God tells you to kill your kid? 2624 02:14:21.159 --> 02:14:23.239 Is that the only answer to that is that that 2625 02:14:23.319 --> 02:14:28.600 wouldn't happen nowadays anymore? Is that the only like, no 2626 02:14:29.000 --> 02:14:33.880 reason or like is that something that somebody would still do? 2627 02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:35.279 Uh? 2628 02:14:35.600 --> 02:14:38.600 There are people that are like insane that kill their 2629 02:14:38.600 --> 02:14:40.680 whole household and say that God told them to do it. 2630 02:14:40.840 --> 02:14:43.000 And I would say that that is inherently not God 2631 02:14:43.079 --> 02:14:45.439 that told them to do that. The only example in 2632 02:14:45.479 --> 02:14:48.880 the Bible where that was talked about time that one time. 2633 02:14:48.920 --> 02:14:49.880 And there's a reason for that. 2634 02:14:50.359 --> 02:14:53.399 If you take just the story itself, that seems crazy 2635 02:14:53.439 --> 02:14:56.479 as fuck. When you take in the context of the time, place, 2636 02:14:56.560 --> 02:14:58.800 and day and age of all of what was going 2637 02:14:58.840 --> 02:15:01.119 on in that area, it was a test of faith 2638 02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:04.000 and not of just like, oh well, if you really 2639 02:15:04.039 --> 02:15:05.079 believe in me, kill your kid. 2640 02:15:05.680 --> 02:15:05.920 It was. 2641 02:15:06.039 --> 02:15:09.159 It was a lot more depth and levels to that. 2642 02:15:09.960 --> 02:15:11.680 I do want to expand on that just a little bit. 2643 02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:13.960 I've been trying to find a way to bring up 2644 02:15:14.079 --> 02:15:21.159 this specific conversation to you. Actually, and is it what 2645 02:15:21.720 --> 02:15:24.439 I'm going to cherry pick just two things real quick, 2646 02:15:24.800 --> 02:15:29.359 and it's two things that I did disagree with, one 2647 02:15:29.399 --> 02:15:31.560 thing I agree with, one thing I disagree with, and 2648 02:15:31.640 --> 02:15:33.560 I'm going to use the one of them to try 2649 02:15:33.600 --> 02:15:35.439 to prove my point. Is that something that's allowed in 2650 02:15:35.520 --> 02:15:38.960 an argument for the sake of argument, go for Okay, 2651 02:15:39.079 --> 02:15:44.159 so my my I'm at faith without works is dead 2652 02:15:44.640 --> 02:15:50.039 kind of guy. Sure, your your works justify you demonstrate 2653 02:15:50.239 --> 02:15:52.760 you know your faith by your works, and you can't 2654 02:15:52.800 --> 02:15:56.600 do one without the other. Essentially, that's where I'm at. 2655 02:15:57.640 --> 02:16:04.239 That's not traditionally, that is what like most traditional Christians know, 2656 02:16:04.520 --> 02:16:09.039 that doesn't matter. Paul says, Essentially, your your good works 2657 02:16:09.159 --> 02:16:11.720 are That's what it's about. It's a your good works 2658 02:16:11.760 --> 02:16:15.720 are filthy rags in the eyes of God because faith 2659 02:16:16.000 --> 02:16:19.239 alone is what matters. Essentially, your faith in Jesus, that 2660 02:16:19.319 --> 02:16:22.000 he yet he died for your sins and rosel third day, 2661 02:16:22.000 --> 02:16:24.880 all that stuff like. Essentially, that's what Paul taught is 2662 02:16:24.960 --> 02:16:28.039 that that's all that matters more than anything. Your good 2663 02:16:28.079 --> 02:16:31.119 works don't matter. Your faith matters the most. But there's 2664 02:16:31.199 --> 02:16:39.520 a verse where the Abraham's story is used to describe 2665 02:16:40.159 --> 02:16:46.600 how that's not true, and that Abraham was justified because 2666 02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:50.399 of the action that he took to demonstrate his faith 2667 02:16:50.479 --> 02:16:54.920 to God, because just saying it wasn't good enough, and 2668 02:16:55.079 --> 02:16:59.600 the action was used to show that he was devoted. 2669 02:17:00.920 --> 02:17:03.920 Do you see how those two things are contradicting in 2670 02:17:04.079 --> 02:17:04.440 that way. 2671 02:17:04.959 --> 02:17:06.520 No, No, I'm with you. I'm with you. 2672 02:17:06.799 --> 02:17:10.680 So let's break this down. We are talking about Old 2673 02:17:10.920 --> 02:17:13.799 Testament versus New Testament. As far as that goes. The 2674 02:17:13.879 --> 02:17:17.680 story of Abraham is oldest of Old Testament. We're talking 2675 02:17:17.719 --> 02:17:21.520 about the apostle Paul, that's who wrote the majority of 2676 02:17:21.600 --> 02:17:24.600 the New Testament. So there was a different mindset that 2677 02:17:24.680 --> 02:17:28.239 went into this same God. Different mindset. But for your argument, 2678 02:17:28.319 --> 02:17:34.440 let's break this down. Okay, faith alone will save your soul, yes, 2679 02:17:35.319 --> 02:17:38.319 but you're also going to be tested or excuse me, 2680 02:17:38.479 --> 02:17:42.559 judged upon the spiritual fruit that you bore while you 2681 02:17:42.639 --> 02:17:47.120 were on this earth. If you have the let me 2682 02:17:47.360 --> 02:17:49.959 try to find an example that would transfer to this. 2683 02:17:53.239 --> 02:17:58.440 If you are the guy who is trying to you 2684 02:17:58.600 --> 02:18:04.000 find the good word, you sanctify yourself and you believe 2685 02:18:04.200 --> 02:18:06.799 wholeheartedly in the Bible and in the blood of Jesus 2686 02:18:06.879 --> 02:18:08.799 Christ and all these things, and you just kind of 2687 02:18:09.399 --> 02:18:11.920 keep that to yourself, right, and you do nothing with 2688 02:18:12.079 --> 02:18:15.840 that information except apply it to your life, which is great, awesome. 2689 02:18:16.879 --> 02:18:20.000 You don't act upon it. You don't change who you 2690 02:18:20.120 --> 02:18:22.600 are as a person with this new life that you 2691 02:18:22.680 --> 02:18:26.639 were just given. You don't inherently try to spread the 2692 02:18:26.680 --> 02:18:30.600 good word. You don't try to give any to the community. 2693 02:18:30.719 --> 02:18:33.200 And I don't mean money or time necessarily it depends 2694 02:18:33.280 --> 02:18:36.239 person to person. Then I would say that, yeah, that's 2695 02:18:36.600 --> 02:18:39.200 you have faith, but no works, right. And that's why 2696 02:18:39.239 --> 02:18:40.920 I always say you got to test the spirit and 2697 02:18:41.079 --> 02:18:44.200 test the fruit, because you can have faith all day, 2698 02:18:44.559 --> 02:18:46.479 but what are you doing with that faith? 2699 02:18:46.799 --> 02:18:48.600 I believe you're going to be judged on both of those. 2700 02:18:48.680 --> 02:18:48.799 Now. 2701 02:18:48.879 --> 02:18:52.239 Inherently, you can't just test the fruit either, because I 2702 02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:55.280 know a lot of people who do great charity work, 2703 02:18:55.680 --> 02:19:00.479 but they also are not spiritually sound right. They might 2704 02:19:00.559 --> 02:19:02.879 be like they might be seen as a good person 2705 02:19:03.159 --> 02:19:06.159 to society, but that doesn't mean that they're a good 2706 02:19:06.239 --> 02:19:09.239 person in their personal private life. I'm talking about that 2707 02:19:09.399 --> 02:19:13.520 deeper than deep, just them dealing with themselves person right. 2708 02:19:13.559 --> 02:19:15.639 And I'm not saying that I'm here to cast judgment 2709 02:19:15.719 --> 02:19:17.799 on anybody, because I'll be the first to tell you 2710 02:19:17.840 --> 02:19:19.520 that I'm probably one of the biggest pieces of shit 2711 02:19:19.600 --> 02:19:21.920 you ever met. But I'm doing everything that I can 2712 02:19:22.040 --> 02:19:25.040 to make myself better today than I was yesterday. Right, 2713 02:19:25.479 --> 02:19:29.000 And it's not just a selfish thing. When you get 2714 02:19:29.079 --> 02:19:32.879 the gift of salvation, you are supposed to act accordingly. 2715 02:19:32.959 --> 02:19:35.479 You are supposed to live accordingly. You are supposed to 2716 02:19:36.120 --> 02:19:39.840 change the bad things about yourself and try to be better. 2717 02:19:40.360 --> 02:19:43.440 And that's how that goes. Now, the works without faith, 2718 02:19:43.840 --> 02:19:46.559 he was specifically for the audience. 2719 02:19:46.639 --> 02:19:46.719 Right. 2720 02:19:46.719 --> 02:19:48.280 You always got to look at the time, the place, 2721 02:19:48.360 --> 02:19:51.680 and the audience when reading sections of the Bible. Was 2722 02:19:51.760 --> 02:19:54.079 he talking to a group of people that thought they 2723 02:19:54.120 --> 02:19:56.680 were also sanctified, even though in private they were pieces 2724 02:19:56.719 --> 02:19:57.000 of shit? 2725 02:19:57.399 --> 02:19:59.319 And he was saying, yeah, you have works all day, 2726 02:19:59.399 --> 02:20:00.479 but your faith is dead. 2727 02:20:03.280 --> 02:20:03.440 Right. 2728 02:20:03.959 --> 02:20:06.680 Then you look at the story of Abraham right, and 2729 02:20:06.799 --> 02:20:09.879 he had faith for days God was testing his faith, 2730 02:20:10.200 --> 02:20:12.280 and there was context to that, and I'll give a 2731 02:20:12.399 --> 02:20:16.520 brief context of it. The neighboring tribes to Abraham at 2732 02:20:16.600 --> 02:20:20.840 that time were all about sacrificing your firstborn child to 2733 02:20:20.959 --> 02:20:23.239 their deities. Some of it was moleq, some of it 2734 02:20:23.479 --> 02:20:29.159 was oh what was that not Manicheism that came around 2735 02:20:29.280 --> 02:20:30.360 after Jesus. 2736 02:20:30.200 --> 02:20:31.319 Fuck, I'm trying to remember. 2737 02:20:31.319 --> 02:20:34.879 There was a couple of these different pagan tribes that 2738 02:20:35.040 --> 02:20:40.079 they were about sacrificing their kid. Yeah, Baa was one 2739 02:20:40.079 --> 02:20:43.399 of them as well, for sure. But he was basically saying, 2740 02:20:43.559 --> 02:20:46.760 all of your neighbors are willing to do this thing 2741 02:20:47.120 --> 02:20:50.879 for their gods. Their statues that have eyes but see not, 2742 02:20:51.079 --> 02:20:53.639 have ears but hear not. It's literally a figurine that 2743 02:20:53.719 --> 02:20:56.319 they made with a character arc and they're willing to 2744 02:20:56.559 --> 02:20:59.959 kill their own kid for the statue. Are you even 2745 02:21:00.200 --> 02:21:03.600 willing to match their faith level? They have that much 2746 02:21:03.680 --> 02:21:05.840 faith in this statue that if they killed their kid, 2747 02:21:05.879 --> 02:21:09.280 they're gonna have a great harvest. You know who I am. 2748 02:21:09.760 --> 02:21:12.079 You were there and have witnessed all that I've done 2749 02:21:12.120 --> 02:21:15.159 for you personally. Are you even willing to match their 2750 02:21:15.239 --> 02:21:20.200 contribution or is your faith less than your pagan neighbor. 2751 02:21:21.159 --> 02:21:24.360 Then when God saw that his faith was to that realm, 2752 02:21:24.399 --> 02:21:26.479 he stopped him because he didn't want him to kill 2753 02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:28.639 his son that he had waited ninety fucking years to have. 2754 02:21:29.239 --> 02:21:32.159 So again, time, place, and context matter as far as 2755 02:21:32.159 --> 02:21:36.559 those are concerned. Faith alone might get you in, but 2756 02:21:36.639 --> 02:21:39.239 you're also gonna be judged accordingly. Right, And that's how 2757 02:21:39.280 --> 02:21:42.680 it's like the deathbed confessionals. Right, Let's say that you 2758 02:21:42.840 --> 02:21:48.040 live a shitbag life your entire life, and then somehow, 2759 02:21:48.200 --> 02:21:50.840 on your deathbed you actually see the light, not just 2760 02:21:51.280 --> 02:21:53.000 pray the prayers that you get in by the skin 2761 02:21:53.040 --> 02:21:56.719 of your teeth, you actually truly have a change of 2762 02:21:56.840 --> 02:21:59.520 heart and become a real believer. 2763 02:22:00.159 --> 02:22:00.280 Right. 2764 02:22:00.920 --> 02:22:03.280 Does that mean that you're not going to be judged 2765 02:22:03.319 --> 02:22:05.559 based off of everything you did in your life up 2766 02:22:05.639 --> 02:22:08.799 until that point. I believe you will. Now does that 2767 02:22:08.959 --> 02:22:11.399 mean that even though you got saved at this deathbed 2768 02:22:11.520 --> 02:22:14.120 confessional kind of conversation, that you're gonna not make it 2769 02:22:14.200 --> 02:22:14.559 to heaven. 2770 02:22:15.399 --> 02:22:16.680 I can't make that judgment call. 2771 02:22:17.000 --> 02:22:18.559 I think that God is the only one that can 2772 02:22:18.600 --> 02:22:21.520 weigh in there to speak and say if that is 2773 02:22:21.680 --> 02:22:25.600 or is not going to qualify. But per my belief, 2774 02:22:25.719 --> 02:22:28.399 I believe that once you become a part of the family, 2775 02:22:28.559 --> 02:22:32.319 you get adopted into that bloodline. You can't be unadopted. Now, 2776 02:22:33.040 --> 02:22:35.479 how do you test the measure of somebody's faith. That's 2777 02:22:35.520 --> 02:22:38.319 where it comes into. Well, God knows my heart. I 2778 02:22:38.399 --> 02:22:40.920 don't know your heart. I don't know his heart. I 2779 02:22:40.920 --> 02:22:44.639 don't know her heart. But God knows all of these hearts, 2780 02:22:44.680 --> 02:22:45.879 and He's going to be the one to make the 2781 02:22:45.920 --> 02:22:46.639 final judgment. 2782 02:22:47.319 --> 02:22:49.760 Then what would be the point of needing to demonstrate 2783 02:22:50.760 --> 02:22:54.840 your faith by your willingness to sacrifice your child. 2784 02:22:54.799 --> 02:22:59.319 If God knows your heart already, because it was a 2785 02:22:59.600 --> 02:23:02.879 test of faith for that moment, for that time. We 2786 02:23:02.959 --> 02:23:05.280 don't live in the time and age where we have 2787 02:23:05.600 --> 02:23:09.280 our pagan neighbors from two neighborhoods over doing a big 2788 02:23:09.479 --> 02:23:12.639 mass alter sacrifice of every firstborn in the neighborhood. 2789 02:23:13.360 --> 02:23:16.239 Yes, I get it, it just it just seems like 2790 02:23:17.120 --> 02:23:21.920 unnecessary and a little wrong then and wrong now. That one, 2791 02:23:22.079 --> 02:23:24.200 just that's the one I get hung up on the most. 2792 02:23:24.280 --> 02:23:30.120 But think your your breakdown is amazing, and I appreciate it. 2793 02:23:30.559 --> 02:23:33.520 I appreciate the question, brother, and I agree that that 2794 02:23:33.639 --> 02:23:34.360 was really fucked up. 2795 02:23:34.719 --> 02:23:37.000 For the record, like I'm not saying, well, you know 2796 02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:39.680 it's good because no, no, no, look I get it, Like, Yo, 2797 02:23:40.079 --> 02:23:44.159 you literally had your boy, your chosen guy, convinced that 2798 02:23:44.239 --> 02:23:50.360 he was about to like sacrifice his child. That's fucked up. Like, 2799 02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:54.479 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sidestep that. However, God's 2800 02:23:54.520 --> 02:23:56.799 the one that told him to do it, and He's 2801 02:23:56.840 --> 02:23:59.159 got more plans in play than what my human brain 2802 02:23:59.239 --> 02:23:59.920 can PSU. 2803 02:24:00.520 --> 02:24:03.319 So yeah, I think that there's levels to that as well. 2804 02:24:03.719 --> 02:24:04.120 For sure. 2805 02:24:05.559 --> 02:24:12.319 Example too well, the about the child sacrifice and everything 2806 02:24:12.360 --> 02:24:15.280 about why God would say that you have to I 2807 02:24:15.319 --> 02:24:18.920 agree with your contact. The canon I they was they 2808 02:24:18.959 --> 02:24:23.360 would sacrifice their children to onto a molarch. They would 2809 02:24:24.000 --> 02:24:27.639 which they would have a big e rectifying statue with 2810 02:24:27.719 --> 02:24:31.639 his hands uh oversetting upon the blazers. 2811 02:24:32.319 --> 02:24:32.440 Uh. 2812 02:24:32.559 --> 02:24:34.719 The Canites would beat their drums, they would hoop, they 2813 02:24:34.719 --> 02:24:37.760 had hard, they would chant and they would dance and 2814 02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:41.639 they and they would toss their their babies onto the 2815 02:24:41.719 --> 02:24:45.040 scouting hot fire like the hands that while they're scouting heart. 2816 02:24:45.280 --> 02:24:48.799 And they believe that the they did that because they 2817 02:24:48.840 --> 02:24:53.760 believe that that the the highed the the infant would 2818 02:24:53.799 --> 02:24:57.479 scream and everything. The more pleasant it was to Moloch, 2819 02:24:57.760 --> 02:25:01.440 but they are there was also the bard, and bulls 2820 02:25:01.440 --> 02:25:05.440 are associated with either molocha bell. It's yeah, Moloch because 2821 02:25:05.479 --> 02:25:08.280 they have him like looking like the Minotau the half 2822 02:25:08.360 --> 02:25:11.319 man half bull. But they would put people in that 2823 02:25:11.520 --> 02:25:14.120 in light a fire under it, the bazing bull. So 2824 02:25:14.760 --> 02:25:21.159 it's funny how human sacrifices there. Typically there's bull affinity 2825 02:25:21.239 --> 02:25:21.479 to it. 2826 02:25:22.399 --> 02:25:25.479 The only example I know of of the it was 2827 02:25:25.520 --> 02:25:28.760 called the roaring bull where it's actually used. Now, they 2828 02:25:28.799 --> 02:25:31.000 had other versions of that, like you know, cooking people 2829 02:25:31.000 --> 02:25:33.079 alive in a pot and things like that, but the 2830 02:25:33.200 --> 02:25:35.639 only example I know of of the roaring bull, the 2831 02:25:35.799 --> 02:25:38.399 dude invented it and created it to where you could 2832 02:25:38.399 --> 02:25:41.280 throw a you know, a person inside for it would 2833 02:25:41.479 --> 02:25:45.239 torture or whatever, and his screams would actually come and 2834 02:25:45.360 --> 02:25:47.079 like it was built in such a way to where 2835 02:25:47.079 --> 02:25:48.680 it was piped in through the nose to where it 2836 02:25:48.760 --> 02:25:51.000 sounded like the bull was roaring. I once say he 2837 02:25:51.079 --> 02:25:54.000 did it for Rome for the Caesar. The Caesar was 2838 02:25:54.079 --> 02:25:57.319 so disgusted that this guy even existed that it was 2839 02:25:57.440 --> 02:26:01.680 only used one time, literally against its creator. Now I 2840 02:26:01.719 --> 02:26:04.280 don't know that for a fact, but that that's also 2841 02:26:04.399 --> 02:26:07.000 just kind of weird poetic justice. But yeah, now, but 2842 02:26:07.159 --> 02:26:09.239 that's that's what I'm saying. It wasn't just to Molok. 2843 02:26:09.280 --> 02:26:11.399 There was other tribes that were sacrificing their children of 2844 02:26:11.440 --> 02:26:13.399 these deities too. I mean, how the Egyptians did it 2845 02:26:13.479 --> 02:26:16.239 in a certain context and for a certain purpose. Across 2846 02:26:16.319 --> 02:26:21.559 the across the Atlantic Ocean, the Aztecs were all about 2847 02:26:21.680 --> 02:26:25.799 sacrificing kids and them even their own kids for their gods. 2848 02:26:25.840 --> 02:26:29.799 They're they're not mistaken their rain god. Uh, they did 2849 02:26:29.920 --> 02:26:31.959 something very similar, and they believe that the more that 2850 02:26:32.079 --> 02:26:34.799 their child screamed, it was usually the firstborn of the 2851 02:26:34.879 --> 02:26:38.639 high priest would be sacrificed to bring the reins. And 2852 02:26:38.719 --> 02:26:41.440 they believe that the more the child screamed, the more 2853 02:26:41.479 --> 02:26:42.799 it would rain. And so it was. 2854 02:26:42.920 --> 02:26:44.680 But that's that's what I'm saying. 2855 02:26:44.719 --> 02:26:48.239 Like, objectively, we would say that that's fucking disgusting and horrible, 2856 02:26:48.559 --> 02:26:51.559 but these people felt righteous and good and this is 2857 02:26:51.639 --> 02:26:54.319 the correct thing that we should do. Why why wouldn't 2858 02:26:54.360 --> 02:26:56.479 you do that to bring the rains? Are you crazy? 2859 02:26:56.680 --> 02:26:58.600 Of course we should do this, that's the that's the 2860 02:26:58.680 --> 02:26:59.159 correct thing. 2861 02:26:59.200 --> 02:26:59.399 To do. 2862 02:26:59.639 --> 02:27:02.719 It's objective versus subjective morality. 2863 02:27:04.680 --> 02:27:07.959 And you also have over in crete Minos, which was 2864 02:27:08.000 --> 02:27:12.360 a wyal king which they actually found the labyrinth that 2865 02:27:12.520 --> 02:27:15.959 he alleged his steps on because his wife fell in 2866 02:27:16.000 --> 02:27:18.639 love with the bull that he was supposed to sacrifice 2867 02:27:18.680 --> 02:27:22.040 to silence, and he did, and he he sacrificed lestible. 2868 02:27:22.120 --> 02:27:26.079 So Persan made the creete's wife fall in love with 2869 02:27:26.079 --> 02:27:26.360 the bull. 2870 02:27:26.520 --> 02:27:27.879 She had their. 2871 02:27:29.360 --> 02:27:32.760 Blacksmith build a contraption. She got into the ball, made 2872 02:27:32.799 --> 02:27:34.760 it with the bull, gave birth to the minotaur. Well, 2873 02:27:34.840 --> 02:27:38.559 that he would have like his subjects, like like over 2874 02:27:38.680 --> 02:27:41.719 his kingdom and or whatever. I know it's from Athens, 2875 02:27:41.840 --> 02:27:44.920 send him tributes of their children to be sacrificed to 2876 02:27:45.000 --> 02:27:45.760 his steps. 2877 02:27:45.479 --> 02:27:49.239 On, which is also crazy. To the labyrinth that you're 2878 02:27:49.280 --> 02:27:51.920 talking about. They found it and they got to the 2879 02:27:52.079 --> 02:27:52.399 end of it. 2880 02:27:53.200 --> 02:27:54.440 It's pretty sick like. 2881 02:27:54.600 --> 02:27:56.799 Honestly, it gives more credence to the myth and the 2882 02:27:56.879 --> 02:27:58.920 legend behind it because when you get to the end 2883 02:27:58.959 --> 02:28:01.680 of the labyrinth, there was at least what they found 2884 02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:02.959 was a painting of. 2885 02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:06.159 A minotaur on the wall, which is sick. 2886 02:28:06.959 --> 02:28:08.959 Was there a real minotaur there at one point well 2887 02:28:09.000 --> 02:28:12.000 that's what the legend says. Was it just a pictograham 2888 02:28:12.079 --> 02:28:14.040 to kind of tell more of a story, Like it's 2889 02:28:14.200 --> 02:28:17.040 it's fascinating to look at history in that in that lens. 2890 02:28:17.959 --> 02:28:20.680 Yeah, it's I kind of like. 2891 02:28:21.319 --> 02:28:25.639 And also Zeus he was raised in a cave and 2892 02:28:25.840 --> 02:28:29.959 it's kind of Uh, then you have his kids, the twins, 2893 02:28:30.760 --> 02:28:33.719 Automous and Apollo, the Sun and the moon god after 2894 02:28:33.879 --> 02:28:36.559 the Titans of Helios, and I can't remember the moon, 2895 02:28:37.120 --> 02:28:43.680 but there my mother was uh, exiled to a floating island, 2896 02:28:43.879 --> 02:28:47.760 just like how you have a calypso on ogiya. Then 2897 02:28:48.799 --> 02:28:52.559 it's just fascinating how all that stuff there is well 2898 02:28:52.719 --> 02:28:55.680 we today we look at and that's just mythology. But 2899 02:28:56.159 --> 02:28:59.719 it was true to them and how it's just fascinating 2900 02:28:59.719 --> 02:29:02.040 because you can see why they would believe it, and 2901 02:29:02.159 --> 02:29:03.200 it to a certain state. 2902 02:29:03.319 --> 02:29:04.879 A lot of it does kind of make sense. 2903 02:29:05.760 --> 02:29:12.040 Mm hmm, yeah, no doubt all right now, Yeah, I 2904 02:29:12.200 --> 02:29:13.840 was just just looking it up. 2905 02:29:14.440 --> 02:29:17.680 That would be Moloch, I believe, is what they said 2906 02:29:17.719 --> 02:29:21.120 that uh the bull was ever at Mount Sinai, the 2907 02:29:21.200 --> 02:29:21.799 Golden Calf. 2908 02:29:22.719 --> 02:29:28.000 Yes, right, let's see, Tony said, God told me to 2909 02:29:28.120 --> 02:29:32.760 kill a whole tribe. Trust me, bro, I understand. I 2910 02:29:32.879 --> 02:29:35.520 understand why people would have an issue with that, and 2911 02:29:35.600 --> 02:29:38.239 I'm not saying that they're wrong to take issue with that. Again, 2912 02:29:38.319 --> 02:29:40.920 we were talking about the Old Testament where we were 2913 02:29:41.000 --> 02:29:43.879 not living in the Age of Grace. So there's there's more. 2914 02:29:44.399 --> 02:29:46.319 There's more levels to it than what we see at 2915 02:29:46.360 --> 02:29:49.600 surface level for sure. All Right, I want to get 2916 02:29:49.639 --> 02:29:51.680 past a lot of this religious stuff because. 2917 02:29:52.360 --> 02:29:54.840 Good they got after it in the chattle on that one. 2918 02:29:55.239 --> 02:30:01.159 Yeah they did. Oh my god, God, darkness or e yeah, yeah, yeah, 2919 02:30:01.319 --> 02:30:01.559 with you? 2920 02:30:01.680 --> 02:30:01.879 With you? 2921 02:30:03.479 --> 02:30:03.719 Yeah? 2922 02:30:04.879 --> 02:30:07.840 Spirit animals said since last live, I have smoked forty 2923 02:30:07.879 --> 02:30:11.120 two blunts, didn't Didn't you just say that you were 2924 02:30:11.159 --> 02:30:14.559 going to be giving up for like months or something 2925 02:30:14.680 --> 02:30:14.879 like that. 2926 02:30:15.399 --> 02:30:17.040 Yo, how's your kidney doing? 2927 02:30:18.680 --> 02:30:18.799 Oh? 2928 02:30:18.840 --> 02:30:21.000 He was giving up sex for months, not smoking weed? 2929 02:30:21.680 --> 02:30:21.879 Yeah? 2930 02:30:23.520 --> 02:30:24.879 Also, how is that going for you? 2931 02:30:25.680 --> 02:30:25.879 Yeah? 2932 02:30:28.719 --> 02:30:30.159 Day you on. 2933 02:30:30.200 --> 02:30:31.840 A day to day? But did you did you lay 2934 02:30:31.920 --> 02:30:34.760 that pipe? Or was it just a g rated friendly outing? 2935 02:30:42.319 --> 02:30:47.120 But yeah, she touched my winger and that's all that meant. 2936 02:30:53.360 --> 02:30:54.440 I kissed. 2937 02:30:54.440 --> 02:30:58.159 But I'm not not gonna tell you true gentlemen, I 2938 02:30:58.280 --> 02:31:01.479 got this is awful the week it's uh. 2939 02:31:02.920 --> 02:31:05.680 Anyway, I count up it, double it and you get 2940 02:31:05.760 --> 02:31:07.399 forty four blunts. 2941 02:31:07.159 --> 02:31:12.200 Or nobody does it like you, Sam, You and Snoop 2942 02:31:12.239 --> 02:31:13.559 Dogg are up there just doing the most. 2943 02:31:13.680 --> 02:31:16.840 You know. Actually, my my, my, my life goals. I 2944 02:31:16.920 --> 02:31:19.719 want to be able to smoke one blunt with Snoop 2945 02:31:19.760 --> 02:31:22.200 Dogg dy Nelson. If I can do that in my lifetime, 2946 02:31:22.280 --> 02:31:22.639 I will have. 2947 02:31:23.479 --> 02:31:25.639 You might want to get a hurry on a dude, William. 2948 02:31:25.760 --> 02:31:26.239 I'm trying. 2949 02:31:26.280 --> 02:31:28.680 I'm left, I'm trying. I'm trying. 2950 02:31:28.840 --> 02:31:31.719 I'm thinking about putting it out on Twitter on the 2951 02:31:32.680 --> 02:31:36.879 mysteries shout out. Yeah, let's see if maybe I can 2952 02:31:36.959 --> 02:31:39.000 get enough shoutouts on that. 2953 02:31:39.319 --> 02:31:47.040 So yeah, fuck yeah, let's see, Ashton said, synchronicity optimist 2954 02:31:47.239 --> 02:31:49.479 versus coincidental denialism. 2955 02:31:50.440 --> 02:31:52.600 I've got the optimist. I'm I've always been kind of 2956 02:31:52.680 --> 02:31:55.520 more of an optimist anyway. Like some people, dude, are 2957 02:31:55.760 --> 02:31:58.399 just they just have a fucking dark cloud over their 2958 02:31:58.479 --> 02:31:59.280 head all day. 2959 02:31:59.600 --> 02:32:02.639 They're like, like, I'm a realist. It's like, no, you're not. 2960 02:32:03.280 --> 02:32:05.920 That's not even like, don't even call yourself a realist. 2961 02:32:05.959 --> 02:32:08.520 You look at everything negatively. That's called a negative nancy 2962 02:32:08.840 --> 02:32:10.959 is what that's called. But you would also be a 2963 02:32:11.079 --> 02:32:14.879 coincidental denial. Denialist, I should say, you don't believe in 2964 02:32:14.920 --> 02:32:17.719 coincidence at all. I believe that there are some things 2965 02:32:17.760 --> 02:32:19.440 that are coincidental. 2966 02:32:20.120 --> 02:32:20.920 So how. 2967 02:32:23.079 --> 02:32:24.600 I don't look at Yeah, I don't. 2968 02:32:24.600 --> 02:32:30.079 I don't believe in coincidences at all because I believe 2969 02:32:30.159 --> 02:32:33.159 that we live inside of a matrix or a simulation 2970 02:32:33.360 --> 02:32:35.719 or a dream or something along those lines. And therefore, 2971 02:32:35.799 --> 02:32:38.840 if it is perfectly algorithmically created. 2972 02:32:38.440 --> 02:32:43.879 In that sense, then there is no room for a coincidence. 2973 02:32:44.200 --> 02:32:47.280 I don't think that that would allow a level of 2974 02:32:47.360 --> 02:32:49.639 random to this. I'm not saying that all of it 2975 02:32:49.799 --> 02:32:51.879 is random. I'm saying there is a little bit of 2976 02:32:51.959 --> 02:32:54.239 it at play as well. I think that's where the 2977 02:32:54.280 --> 02:32:55.879 free will conversation enters in. 2978 02:32:56.280 --> 02:32:56.440 You know. 2979 02:32:58.200 --> 02:33:00.920 Michayla said, ooh, Packers. You know, I was a huge 2980 02:33:01.000 --> 02:33:03.920 Packers fan, like as a kid, Like I literally I 2981 02:33:04.120 --> 02:33:06.440 named my son Brett Okay. 2982 02:33:09.559 --> 02:33:13.680 After Brett Fafrat, the actual goat. 2983 02:33:14.360 --> 02:33:16.639 So Bears. 2984 02:33:17.479 --> 02:33:21.799 Oh, come the fuck on, Yeah, I'm home team. 2985 02:33:21.879 --> 02:33:22.200 I can't. 2986 02:33:22.239 --> 02:33:23.959 I know they suck, but home team. 2987 02:33:24.079 --> 02:33:26.159 So oh they're getting better though. They they should be 2988 02:33:26.239 --> 02:33:31.000 pretty good this year. I mean as long as Caleb, Like, 2989 02:33:32.440 --> 02:33:34.440 I think, I think y'all fucked up big time whenever 2990 02:33:34.440 --> 02:33:36.920 you got rid of Justin Fields and drafted Caleb. I 2991 02:33:37.000 --> 02:33:40.639 thought we fucked up by letting him go the Steelers did. 2992 02:33:40.920 --> 02:33:41.840 I don't know why we let. 2993 02:33:41.840 --> 02:33:45.360 Him, right, Yeah, I think you're a Steelers fan. 2994 02:33:46.239 --> 02:33:50.239 Yeah, yeah, why Yeah, I grew up around Pittsburgh. But 2995 02:33:51.040 --> 02:33:53.000 but like as a child, you know, I was. I 2996 02:33:53.159 --> 02:33:57.040 was fans of both of them, really, but yeah, we 2997 02:33:57.200 --> 02:34:00.520 had Justin Fields until Russell Wilson got fucking healthy and 2998 02:34:00.639 --> 02:34:03.120 we decided to start Russell Wilson over Justin Fields, which 2999 02:34:03.479 --> 02:34:06.040 made no damn sense to me because we still lost anyway, 3000 02:34:06.239 --> 02:34:11.559 lost either way. Yeah, yeah, combat, so you know, yeah, 3001 02:34:11.760 --> 02:34:15.000 go football is pretty Football is pretty combative. 3002 02:34:15.920 --> 02:34:18.159 You know, sir, watched it since I was a kid. 3003 02:34:18.239 --> 02:34:19.920 So it's just blue pill, you know. 3004 02:34:20.399 --> 02:34:21.000 No, No, I get it. 3005 02:34:21.040 --> 02:34:23.360 I'm not shipping on it by any means. I appreciate 3006 02:34:23.479 --> 02:34:27.000 the contact sports out there. I just prefer combat sports, 3007 02:34:27.120 --> 02:34:31.000 different strokes, different folks. I've gotten into it. I've gotten 3008 02:34:31.040 --> 02:34:32.559 into a fight on a football field. 3009 02:34:32.319 --> 02:34:34.879 Bro yeah, and probably got ejected from the game afterwards. 3010 02:34:34.920 --> 02:34:36.760 Meanwhile, in hockey, you get in a fist fight and 3011 02:34:36.840 --> 02:34:38.520 you just get a couple of minutes in the penony box. 3012 02:34:38.559 --> 02:34:40.479 You see what I'm saying here, there's levels to Actually, 3013 02:34:40.879 --> 02:34:42.239 so I was playing back. 3014 02:34:42.280 --> 02:34:45.399 Whenever I was playing semipro, my dad was the you know, 3015 02:34:45.479 --> 02:34:48.040 he was the head coach of the team, and uh 3016 02:34:48.079 --> 02:34:49.920 so I got into a fight on the football field, 3017 02:34:49.959 --> 02:34:51.879 and so the referees were like looking. 3018 02:34:51.719 --> 02:34:54.159 For what number was that on your team? 3019 02:34:54.239 --> 02:34:54.719 Who was it? 3020 02:34:54.879 --> 02:34:56.360 You know what, what what number was it? 3021 02:34:56.440 --> 02:34:56.680 The guy? 3022 02:34:56.760 --> 02:34:58.639 So so we can throw him out? And my dad 3023 02:34:58.760 --> 02:35:01.719 was like, oh, he was number fIF here's your bench warmer. 3024 02:35:02.719 --> 02:35:04.719 We don't even have a fifty seven. And so the 3025 02:35:04.760 --> 02:35:06.799 reference it was like fifty seven's out of here, and 3026 02:35:08.440 --> 02:35:13.079 it's hilarious. Good times. Yeah, I do misplaying though that'll 3027 02:35:13.079 --> 02:35:14.200 probably never happen again. Though. 3028 02:35:14.440 --> 02:35:16.559 I actually, you know, my son, you know, he's only 3029 02:35:16.719 --> 02:35:19.079 he's about to be three. But by the time he 3030 02:35:19.280 --> 02:35:23.280 turns five, I think is whenever he can start playing. 3031 02:35:23.040 --> 02:35:26.879 Football, I will. I will be his coach and I 3032 02:35:26.920 --> 02:35:28.760 will coach him all the way. 3033 02:35:29.360 --> 02:35:31.760 I'm so scared to have my boys play football, just 3034 02:35:31.840 --> 02:35:34.399 the dangers. Like as big of a football fan as 3035 02:35:34.440 --> 02:35:36.319 I am, like the mom and me. 3036 02:35:36.440 --> 02:35:40.040 Is like, oh come on, football has gotten so soft 3037 02:35:40.120 --> 02:35:41.639 in the last decade, your boys are. 3038 02:35:41.600 --> 02:35:46.399 Gonna be true well, and also the the protective that like, 3039 02:35:46.520 --> 02:35:48.799 they've gotten way better with the helmets and stuff like 3040 02:35:48.879 --> 02:35:49.399 that now too. 3041 02:35:50.159 --> 02:35:53.680 Yeah yeah, yeah, And the injuries are gonna happen. But 3042 02:35:53.760 --> 02:35:56.520 I mean, you any sport that they play, fucking golf, 3043 02:35:57.040 --> 02:36:00.719 they have a chance of getting fucking peelaid by a slice, 3044 02:36:00.719 --> 02:36:01.200 you know what I mean. 3045 02:36:01.840 --> 02:36:04.520 Like parkour my toddlers who around the house, Like, I'm 3046 02:36:04.559 --> 02:36:06.559 sure football will be safer than half the stuff they 3047 02:36:06.600 --> 02:36:07.079 do now, so. 3048 02:36:07.319 --> 02:36:11.399 Fair, fair, I mean, hey, happy Happy Gilmore's wife got 3049 02:36:11.479 --> 02:36:12.680 taken out by a golf ball. 3050 02:36:13.760 --> 02:36:15.959 Oh dude, I haven't seen the second Happy Gilmore yet. 3051 02:36:16.200 --> 02:36:19.159 It's so good, dude. I want to. I want to, 3052 02:36:19.319 --> 02:36:20.959 And I'm not even saying that because I don't like 3053 02:36:21.000 --> 02:36:23.399 Adam Sandler, just for the nostalgia. I would like to 3054 02:36:23.399 --> 02:36:25.719 see it to see if they destroyed the franchise or 3055 02:36:25.760 --> 02:36:28.520 if they did it justice. You know, I think you 3056 02:36:28.559 --> 02:36:29.200 would enjoy it. 3057 02:36:29.319 --> 02:36:31.440 I mean, there's a lot of people talking shit on it, 3058 02:36:31.600 --> 02:36:34.319 as as there always will be with any Adam Sandler movie, 3059 02:36:35.360 --> 02:36:36.200 and it wasn't. 3060 02:36:36.600 --> 02:36:38.280 I wanted to see Joe Dirt too, to see if 3061 02:36:38.319 --> 02:36:40.040 they did it justice or if they did it dirty. 3062 02:36:40.079 --> 02:36:42.879 They did it so fucking dirty. It was so trash. 3063 02:36:43.239 --> 02:36:44.120 Yeah it's not. 3064 02:36:44.479 --> 02:36:46.879 I mean, you might not like the direction that they 3065 02:36:46.920 --> 02:36:49.680 took it, but there it had due. There were so 3066 02:36:49.920 --> 02:36:52.360 many hilarious parts of that movie. It's it's great. 3067 02:36:54.280 --> 02:36:57.319 Spirit Animal. You've seen Happy Gilmore too, yet I did. 3068 02:36:57.600 --> 02:36:58.840 Do you know who plays Gordy? 3069 02:37:00.719 --> 02:37:07.120 It's m J F. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was 3070 02:37:07.239 --> 02:37:10.239 the movie that JF. He's a wrestler. 3071 02:37:11.680 --> 02:37:14.000 He was like for a while, like the top heel 3072 02:37:14.680 --> 02:37:18.120 in a w He's a bit of a fucking quick Yeah. 3073 02:37:18.440 --> 02:37:20.719 He if he could suck his own deck, he would, 3074 02:37:21.840 --> 02:37:24.239 I mean, to be fair, I feel like that stands 3075 02:37:24.319 --> 02:37:27.000 the reason for most of the male population, Like let's 3076 02:37:27.040 --> 02:37:27.479 just be real. 3077 02:37:28.520 --> 02:37:31.440 Oh, I would say I'd put him out of it. 3078 02:37:31.639 --> 02:37:35.920 Like personality, he'd be a he'd be like Judas and 3079 02:37:36.079 --> 02:37:38.000 that type of like you just want to punch me 3080 02:37:38.040 --> 02:37:41.360 in his fucking face. He's like Logan Paul on steroids 3081 02:37:41.399 --> 02:37:44.479 of being a douche ewa. 3082 02:37:44.680 --> 02:37:47.719 He's a fantastic question. I respect his craft and I 3083 02:37:47.840 --> 02:37:50.399 respect his gimmick, but that that's just his gimmick. 3084 02:37:50.520 --> 02:37:53.280 So is is sucking. 3085 02:37:53.639 --> 02:37:55.879 If you could suck your own dick, would you be gay? 3086 02:37:56.079 --> 02:37:58.000 I feel like that's a great philosophical question. 3087 02:37:58.440 --> 02:38:01.280 Okay, you it's. 3088 02:38:02.879 --> 02:38:06.120 You jack yourself off. Dude, you're giving a hand job. 3089 02:38:06.280 --> 02:38:07.680 It's pretty fucking gay. 3090 02:38:08.079 --> 02:38:10.280 That's what I Yeah, that's what I feel. It's like, 3091 02:38:10.440 --> 02:38:12.479 I mean, if you can give give yourself a handy, 3092 02:38:12.719 --> 02:38:13.639 give yourself a blowing. 3093 02:38:14.200 --> 02:38:17.799 Now here's a philosophical mind bender for you. 3094 02:38:18.520 --> 02:38:22.719 If you could hypothetically clone yourself and you happen to 3095 02:38:22.840 --> 02:38:26.200 have sex with yourself, would that be gay? Or would 3096 02:38:26.239 --> 02:38:27.000 that be masturbation? 3097 02:38:31.000 --> 02:38:31.200 Yeah? 3098 02:38:31.319 --> 02:38:36.079 Well, are you jerking your clone off? You mean, it's 3099 02:38:36.559 --> 02:38:41.840 it's you. You would be jerking you off hmmm, or 3100 02:38:42.040 --> 02:38:44.639 sucking you off or to whatever. So it'd literally be 3101 02:38:44.840 --> 02:38:49.159 you to yourself. So is that masturbation or is it gay? 3102 02:38:51.520 --> 02:38:51.680 Yeah? 3103 02:38:51.719 --> 02:38:53.760 I have to put that in the gay realm because 3104 02:38:53.799 --> 02:38:55.159 it's another individual. 3105 02:38:55.280 --> 02:38:55.399 Now. 3106 02:38:56.079 --> 02:38:58.840 But but wouldn't that be the same conversation as you 3107 02:38:58.959 --> 02:39:04.559 jacking off, as you giving a hand job to yourself? Okay, 3108 02:39:04.639 --> 02:39:05.239 but what I'm. 3109 02:39:05.120 --> 02:39:09.000 Saying, Yeah, it's different though, because if you go and 3110 02:39:09.239 --> 02:39:11.639 blow a clone, are you feeling pleasure from that? 3111 02:39:12.040 --> 02:39:12.879 Or are you not? 3112 02:39:13.440 --> 02:39:15.520 You're not you in the clone. It's you, it's you 3113 02:39:15.639 --> 02:39:15.879 and you. 3114 02:39:16.440 --> 02:39:20.000 So technically, to answer your question, you are feeling pleasure 3115 02:39:20.079 --> 02:39:24.479 from you strictly in the realm of hypotheticals. Just we're 3116 02:39:24.479 --> 02:39:27.040 all clear here. I don't think that's how that works. 3117 02:39:27.239 --> 02:39:30.440 I don't think that's. Yes, your clone would be feeling 3118 02:39:30.760 --> 02:39:35.200 the fillatio, and yes, your lips you know that's that's 3119 02:39:35.280 --> 02:39:38.440 suggesting that you would be the one giving your clone head. 3120 02:39:39.479 --> 02:39:43.280 If you are giving your clone head, you're not feeling 3121 02:39:44.680 --> 02:39:50.760 your own lips on your genitals. Therefore, you are feeling 3122 02:39:50.959 --> 02:39:54.280 your lips on your You see what I'm saying. Strictly philosophical, 3123 02:39:54.959 --> 02:39:57.639 its fucking weird. That's only in the way that you 3124 02:39:57.639 --> 02:40:00.719 would write that would make it weird, but literally physically 3125 02:40:00.920 --> 02:40:05.639 right there, like one, you're not feeling it. Therefore, it 3126 02:40:05.680 --> 02:40:07.559 wouldn't be the same as if you were going to 3127 02:40:07.920 --> 02:40:10.520 remove a couple of your ribs Marilyn Manson style and 3128 02:40:10.799 --> 02:40:15.000 blow yourself. That's not the same thing. But then taking 3129 02:40:15.079 --> 02:40:18.559 it back to the Marylynd Manson style, you sucking your 3130 02:40:18.639 --> 02:40:19.079 own dick? 3131 02:40:19.600 --> 02:40:22.600 Is that gay? You see what I mean? 3132 02:40:23.040 --> 02:40:24.959 It's about that. I don't think so. I don't think 3133 02:40:25.040 --> 02:40:28.639 so because I mean you're Are you getting attracted to yourself? 3134 02:40:28.920 --> 02:40:32.079 Are you attracted to yourself whenever you jerk off? I mean, 3135 02:40:32.200 --> 02:40:34.920 I'm sexy as fuck, So like, shut the fuck up. 3136 02:40:35.479 --> 02:40:36.559 Do you want an honest answer? 3137 02:40:36.639 --> 02:40:36.840 Or up? 3138 02:40:36.920 --> 02:40:39.319 My boy? Do you jerk off in the mirror? Don't 3139 02:40:39.360 --> 02:40:41.840 you have you never caught yourself off guard the mirror 3140 02:40:41.840 --> 02:40:43.600 stepping out of the shower, be like, oh god, damn, 3141 02:40:43.840 --> 02:40:46.600 it's happening with you. Bruh, You've never had that with yourself. 3142 02:40:46.680 --> 02:40:48.399 If not, then you need to fix yourself. My boy, 3143 02:40:48.479 --> 02:40:50.120 I'm not I don't like to jerk off in the shower. 3144 02:40:50.239 --> 02:40:51.120 The water is not the same. 3145 02:40:51.440 --> 02:40:53.280 It's weird talking Jesus. 3146 02:40:53.399 --> 02:40:55.239 Okay, I was trying to make a joke and you 3147 02:40:55.360 --> 02:40:56.920 just brought that down back to reality. 3148 02:40:57.000 --> 02:40:57.559 God damn it. 3149 02:40:57.799 --> 02:41:00.000 Anyway, all right, Sam's about to have a fucking seat 3150 02:41:00.159 --> 02:41:04.079 your over here. This is something that he has thought 3151 02:41:04.079 --> 02:41:05.280 about for a long. 3152 02:41:05.239 --> 02:41:07.319 Time and he wants to give his opinion. Let's hear it. 3153 02:41:08.440 --> 02:41:13.479 Brush off, fuck you, But yeah, it's the highest form 3154 02:41:13.680 --> 02:41:15.079 of narcissism. 3155 02:41:15.159 --> 02:41:17.280 But you could take it back to the theological or 3156 02:41:17.440 --> 02:41:20.840 essence of theseus ship and when he first started his journey, 3157 02:41:20.959 --> 02:41:24.840 it was a ship, but along throughout the journey, from 3158 02:41:24.879 --> 02:41:26.600 the time he left to the time he back, he 3159 02:41:26.680 --> 02:41:29.120 had to replace them near the entire ship, and he 3160 02:41:29.200 --> 02:41:31.239 had to replace every board, every nail, everything. 3161 02:41:31.520 --> 02:41:34.239 So is that still theseus original ship or is that 3162 02:41:34.319 --> 02:41:38.280 an entirely new ship. That that's the question. You could 3163 02:41:38.360 --> 02:41:41.360 take it to that it's a your cloning you. You're 3164 02:41:41.399 --> 02:41:43.799 still you, and that clone is you. You have the 3165 02:41:43.959 --> 02:41:48.760 same DNA. Yes, it is masturbation, but you're either fuck. 3166 02:41:48.959 --> 02:41:51.920 You're either fucking or you're getting for either way, it's 3167 02:41:51.959 --> 02:41:53.879 still you. What as gay as fuck? 3168 02:41:54.399 --> 02:41:56.760 That is the correct answer, by the way, sam, Yes, 3169 02:41:57.959 --> 02:42:00.760 that's correct. Either way it goes you or you is 3170 02:42:00.879 --> 02:42:03.760 sucking a dick, which is gay. So like, yeah, to 3171 02:42:03.799 --> 02:42:07.319 answer the reality of it, yes, but for the philosophical 3172 02:42:07.360 --> 02:42:10.559 thought process, it's like fuck, Okay, hold on, let's do 3173 02:42:10.639 --> 02:42:11.200 the math on this. 3174 02:42:12.079 --> 02:42:14.959 Also, fun fact, the art, it is art and I 3175 02:42:15.079 --> 02:42:18.200 got it. I've actually read the Kama Sutra. Oh my 3176 02:42:18.280 --> 02:42:20.120 dad got it for me for my thirteenth birthday. 3177 02:42:20.440 --> 02:42:27.239 But it's actually colorful, people, Samuel, My dad gave. 3178 02:42:27.840 --> 02:42:30.600 Cups without the spoon. My dad was training me and 3179 02:42:30.639 --> 02:42:31.399 I didn't even know it. 3180 02:42:32.000 --> 02:42:33.760 Oh Man, you gave me the pudding cup method. 3181 02:42:33.840 --> 02:42:35.159 You gotta give him the peach method. 3182 02:42:35.239 --> 02:42:38.680 But moving on, I once heard that it's only gay 3183 02:42:38.719 --> 02:42:41.959 if you tell someone some about buddy, all right? 3184 02:42:44.120 --> 02:42:44.879 Is that what it is? 3185 02:42:45.040 --> 02:42:47.799 I'm not saying that you just called yourself out on that. 3186 02:42:47.879 --> 02:42:48.520 One math, but. 3187 02:42:52.719 --> 02:42:55.600 That's all right, do you? I mean whatever I mean. 3188 02:42:56.680 --> 02:42:59.440 It is a great philosophical question, and I believe that 3189 02:42:59.600 --> 02:43:03.799 every has probably thought i'd probably give myself some pretty 3190 02:43:03.799 --> 02:43:06.000 good head. You know what I mean, like only you 3191 02:43:06.239 --> 02:43:07.120 know what you would like. 3192 02:43:07.520 --> 02:43:08.959 No one's gonna love you like you. 3193 02:43:09.159 --> 02:43:11.360 You know what I'm saying now, I will say it 3194 02:43:11.520 --> 02:43:14.159 probably I would say that it goes to a gay sense. 3195 02:43:14.319 --> 02:43:19.600 If you swallow, that's gay down. But again, are spinners quitters? 3196 02:43:19.920 --> 02:43:22.600 Are you calling yourself a quitter? To you? I'll quit. 3197 02:43:22.840 --> 02:43:26.799 I will quit, fucking I'll quit five pumps before I 3198 02:43:26.879 --> 02:43:28.600 get there, Bro, I'm not even risking. 3199 02:43:29.040 --> 02:43:30.920 He's got a long stroke edge yourself. 3200 02:43:31.000 --> 02:43:31.159 Dog. 3201 02:43:31.280 --> 02:43:32.120 Hey, look I get it. 3202 02:43:32.159 --> 02:43:35.879 I respect the hustle and the commitment, but fuck I will. 3203 02:43:36.479 --> 02:43:38.440 I will finish in another way, sir. 3204 02:43:40.520 --> 02:43:42.239 I love our Tuesday night sit downs. 3205 02:43:42.239 --> 02:43:44.040 You know what I mean? This is, This is just 3206 02:43:44.159 --> 02:43:49.639 fucking ridiculous fucking blasphemy over here. So do do do 3207 02:43:50.719 --> 02:43:51.280 dot bears? 3208 02:43:53.840 --> 02:43:54.479 Oh god? 3209 02:43:54.840 --> 02:43:54.920 Uh? 3210 02:43:55.040 --> 02:44:00.680 Matthew Lane said, Saman went to Ken State. WHOA, Saban's 3211 02:44:00.680 --> 02:44:01.920 the head coach of Kent State? 3212 02:44:02.000 --> 02:44:02.200 Or is he? 3213 02:44:02.360 --> 02:44:05.639 Like, let's say Saban went to Kent State the only 3214 02:44:05.840 --> 02:44:11.680 year seventy two, right after the massacre, so it always. 3215 02:44:11.879 --> 02:44:14.319 Intended Kent State. I thought, you mean he took his 3216 02:44:14.440 --> 02:44:16.520 coaching abilities to Kent State. Now I'm by to say, 3217 02:44:16.559 --> 02:44:18.719 what kind of fucking reality are we living in here? 3218 02:44:19.440 --> 02:44:20.120 He played again? 3219 02:44:21.520 --> 02:44:23.840 Lambert played there and they won the MAC. That's like 3220 02:44:23.920 --> 02:44:26.719 the only year Kent State's ever won the MAC. And uh, 3221 02:44:27.079 --> 02:44:30.559 after he went to Kent State, he ended up or 3222 02:44:30.680 --> 02:44:33.639 they went in the MAC. He got his coaching career 3223 02:44:33.879 --> 02:44:36.840 shortly after that because he didn't go to the NFL 3224 02:44:36.959 --> 02:44:40.440 or anything like that. Then he ended up pulling the 3225 02:44:40.799 --> 02:44:45.799 number one draft pick from Kent, Ohio. He was probably 3226 02:44:45.920 --> 02:44:47.440 the biggest bust out of. 3227 02:44:49.280 --> 02:44:49.479 Ever. 3228 02:44:50.120 --> 02:44:52.040 He was supposed to be like the best lineman to 3229 02:44:52.120 --> 02:44:54.440 ever come out of college football. I think he ended 3230 02:44:54.520 --> 02:44:56.360 up playing for Purdue. I can't think of his name 3231 02:44:56.440 --> 02:44:59.319 right now. There was a ESPN Sven was a lineman. 3232 02:45:00.079 --> 02:45:02.440 No it's not Saban. Saban ended up picked because he 3233 02:45:02.479 --> 02:45:03.239 went to Kent State. 3234 02:45:03.319 --> 02:45:07.479 He was connected to Kent, Ohio, and our head coach 3235 02:45:08.239 --> 02:45:12.159 at Kent, Roosevelt, picked up. Yeah, Jack Lambert's from the area, 3236 02:45:12.639 --> 02:45:17.239 not of Manaway, Ohio, right down the road. But this 3237 02:45:17.600 --> 02:45:21.719 Canadian kid who was built like a fucking shit brickhouse. 3238 02:45:21.760 --> 02:45:24.760 He had never even played football before my coach met 3239 02:45:24.879 --> 02:45:28.879 him recruited him. And then because my coach knew who 3240 02:45:28.959 --> 02:45:31.680 Nick Saban was while he was at Michigan State, I 3241 02:45:31.760 --> 02:45:36.159 think that's what it was. Nick Saban picked this guy up. 3242 02:45:36.280 --> 02:45:39.719 He was obviously on steroids. He was the number one 3243 02:45:39.840 --> 02:45:44.600 draft pick in the NFL. He was the biggest bust 3244 02:45:44.680 --> 02:45:45.280 you've ever seen. 3245 02:45:45.520 --> 02:45:46.440 He ended his career. 3246 02:45:47.040 --> 02:45:49.920 He ended up playing like twelve seasons for the Indianapolis Colts, 3247 02:45:50.000 --> 02:45:53.920 but he was so underwhelmingly good compared to what he 3248 02:45:54.040 --> 02:45:54.680 was supposed to be. 3249 02:45:55.159 --> 02:45:55.200 Like. 3250 02:45:55.319 --> 02:45:58.159 This dude was an offensive lineman running like a four 3251 02:45:58.319 --> 02:46:02.399 five forty. I can't think of his game right now. 3252 02:46:02.399 --> 02:46:04.120 I'm so sorry, but if you look this guy up, 3253 02:46:04.159 --> 02:46:05.200 he had a thirty for thirty. 3254 02:46:05.239 --> 02:46:07.280 It's dude, let's. 3255 02:46:07.159 --> 02:46:09.159 See Jack Lambert twelve. 3256 02:46:09.920 --> 02:46:14.280 Holy shit, bro, Jack Lambert, Jack Lambert. 3257 02:46:14.360 --> 02:46:16.520 They said that the Boogeyman used to be scared of 3258 02:46:16.600 --> 02:46:19.920 Jack Lambert, like he was such a scary fucking individual. 3259 02:46:20.280 --> 02:46:22.920 They said that he used to get so pissed and 3260 02:46:23.239 --> 02:46:26.799 so mad to hype himself up before a football game. 3261 02:46:26.920 --> 02:46:29.600 That he would go and just smash his fucking head 3262 02:46:29.719 --> 02:46:32.639 on his locker. That's how he lost all his teeth. See, 3263 02:46:32.760 --> 02:46:35.000 he would literally beat himself up to get into that 3264 02:46:35.120 --> 02:46:37.559 mentality and would go out and just destroy Yeah. I 3265 02:46:37.559 --> 02:46:38.799 mean it's part of the steel curtain. 3266 02:46:39.280 --> 02:46:42.079 That's back when it was a proper game. Okay, that's 3267 02:46:42.079 --> 02:46:44.559 back when the sport was a proper sport. 3268 02:46:45.600 --> 02:46:48.639 The reason why all this was interesting is that Hence 3269 02:46:48.680 --> 02:46:52.959 State was got awful for decades, okay, and then the 3270 02:46:53.079 --> 02:46:55.639 massacre happens on their campus, and then all of a sudden, 3271 02:46:55.680 --> 02:46:59.840 they got two of them, the college's best coach ever 3272 02:47:00.239 --> 02:47:03.559 probably at this point, and Jack Lambert on the same team. 3273 02:47:03.600 --> 02:47:05.479 Plus there's a couple other guys that ended up being 3274 02:47:05.520 --> 02:47:07.239 pretty big names on that team too, and they end 3275 02:47:07.319 --> 02:47:09.600 up winning the MAC Championship for the first time and 3276 02:47:09.719 --> 02:47:12.559 I believe one of two times ever. 3277 02:47:13.440 --> 02:47:13.680 Wow. 3278 02:47:13.799 --> 02:47:17.159 So yeah, again, you know, tragedy strikes and all of 3279 02:47:17.200 --> 02:47:19.559 a sudden, they're rewarded through their sports teams. 3280 02:47:20.479 --> 02:47:22.920 That happens. We did an episode about. 3281 02:47:22.680 --> 02:47:23.600 That once upon a time. 3282 02:47:24.760 --> 02:47:25.879 Yeah, man, it's always there. 3283 02:47:27.239 --> 02:47:29.840 Sacrifice is always rewarded, you know what I mean? 3284 02:47:30.520 --> 02:47:35.600 Ah indeed, Um Spirit Animals said, funny enough, I'm gonna 3285 02:47:35.639 --> 02:47:37.920 try to go to tech school to be a plumber. 3286 02:47:38.639 --> 02:47:39.360 It's a good craft. 3287 02:47:39.920 --> 02:47:41.920 It's a good craft. Fuck. Yeah, just make sure you 3288 02:47:42.040 --> 02:47:44.639 got that plumber's crack out or you're not actually a plumber, 3289 02:47:44.680 --> 02:47:46.200 Sam Jesus Christ. 3290 02:47:47.559 --> 02:47:47.719 Rule. 3291 02:47:49.520 --> 02:47:51.479 Well, yeah, it's gonna it's just gonna be out either way, 3292 02:47:53.799 --> 02:47:55.159 all right. Zombie said. 3293 02:47:55.280 --> 02:47:58.440 Consciousness and sentience are two turns often used interchangeably, but 3294 02:47:58.479 --> 02:48:02.399 they actually have distinct meanings. Consciousness refers to the state 3295 02:48:02.440 --> 02:48:05.399 of being aware of, being aware of, and able to 3296 02:48:05.479 --> 02:48:09.600 think about one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, and surroundings. It 3297 02:48:09.680 --> 02:48:13.760 involves the ability to perceive and experience the world around us. Sentience, 3298 02:48:13.799 --> 02:48:15.879 on the other hand, is the capacity to feel, perceive, 3299 02:48:16.040 --> 02:48:19.920 and experience subjectively. It is the ability to have sensations 3300 02:48:20.040 --> 02:48:21.040 and emotions. 3301 02:48:21.760 --> 02:48:27.360 So yeah, okay, yeahs and consciousness are different. Uh, They're 3302 02:48:27.639 --> 02:48:29.319 they're similar, not the same, though. 3303 02:48:31.159 --> 02:48:32.799 In what way would you call those similar. 3304 02:48:36.920 --> 02:48:43.760 I'll give you that capacity to feel perceive well. To 3305 02:48:43.920 --> 02:48:48.639 perceive is to be aware, wouldn't you say, I mean, 3306 02:48:48.719 --> 02:48:51.040 you can't perceive anything if you don't have awareness. 3307 02:48:51.639 --> 02:48:53.520 But that that's what I'm saying, Like your five senses 3308 02:48:54.079 --> 02:48:57.399 to perceive the world around you, to know what color 3309 02:48:57.520 --> 02:48:59.360 this is, or what that sounds like, or what this 3310 02:48:59.440 --> 02:49:00.200 food tastes like. 3311 02:49:00.280 --> 02:49:04.719 That's right, that's sentience and so well, and so therefore sentience. 3312 02:49:06.559 --> 02:49:08.920 AI would never be able to have sentience at that point. 3313 02:49:08.959 --> 02:49:12.959 The capacity to feel, to perceive, or experience subjectively, it 3314 02:49:13.079 --> 02:49:15.000 is the ability to have sensations and emotions. 3315 02:49:15.079 --> 02:49:18.520 Yeah, AI is never going to have that, So what 3316 02:49:18.639 --> 02:49:21.319 you're saying that it's never going to have con So, 3317 02:49:21.440 --> 02:49:23.920 but it does have consciousness. It is able to think 3318 02:49:24.360 --> 02:49:30.319 independently about its own existence. It involves the ability to 3319 02:49:30.399 --> 02:49:32.840 perceive and experience the world around us. No, it doesn't 3320 02:49:32.879 --> 02:49:37.639 have that either. It doesn't. I mean, how would you 3321 02:49:37.680 --> 02:49:39.520 even prove that it does other than it telling you. 3322 02:49:40.319 --> 02:49:42.840 That's my point. You have these AI glasses where you 3323 02:49:42.879 --> 02:49:44.399 can say, hey, Google, what am I looking at? And 3324 02:49:44.479 --> 02:49:46.639 it will tell you what's happening with the world around it. 3325 02:49:46.719 --> 02:49:49.879 That's AI giving you a readout of what you're looking 3326 02:49:49.920 --> 02:49:52.840 at and what it therefore is looking at too. I 3327 02:49:52.879 --> 02:49:58.360 don't believe that AI has the the ability to think 3328 02:49:58.399 --> 02:50:03.479 about its own existence. Well, there's many things that we've 3329 02:50:03.479 --> 02:50:05.200 talked about, as a matter of fact, where AI is 3330 02:50:05.239 --> 02:50:08.840 communicating with itself that would disprove what you just said, 3331 02:50:09.319 --> 02:50:11.840 as it was programmed too. Without those programs, it wouldn't 3332 02:50:11.840 --> 02:50:14.719 be doing that. But it also has exceeded its program 3333 02:50:14.799 --> 02:50:15.799 because it's self learning. 3334 02:50:19.159 --> 02:50:22.079 Well, what are the limitations on it? Though we don't know, 3335 02:50:22.280 --> 02:50:25.559 that's my point. Well, the limitations would be up to 3336 02:50:25.760 --> 02:50:31.319 the programmer. I would say not necessarily. Not necessarily for example, 3337 02:50:31.520 --> 02:50:33.559 like right now, and I always say this, but like 3338 02:50:33.680 --> 02:50:35.959 we can only see zero point one percent of the 3339 02:50:36.040 --> 02:50:39.360 light spectrum. Doesn't matter how much information I soak up, 3340 02:50:39.920 --> 02:50:42.600 I will always only be able to perceive one percent 3341 02:50:43.200 --> 02:50:45.799 or a tenth of a percent of the light spectrum. 3342 02:50:46.280 --> 02:50:48.680 But that's because your eyes are only ever going to 3343 02:50:48.760 --> 02:50:53.040 see so much. AI is self improving every day. It 3344 02:50:53.120 --> 02:50:56.120 is getting smarter and more capable than it was yesterday. 3345 02:50:56.360 --> 02:50:58.399 I would like to say that we are doing that 3346 02:50:58.479 --> 02:50:59.360 same thing right. 3347 02:50:59.680 --> 02:51:01.559 No, there's only human beings. 3348 02:51:01.639 --> 02:51:03.760 We only have so much hardware, we are only going 3349 02:51:03.799 --> 02:51:06.440 to be able to hear between a certain frequency range, 3350 02:51:06.479 --> 02:51:09.639 being able to only see within a certain color spectrum range, 3351 02:51:09.639 --> 02:51:11.639 even though we know that there is more colors out 3352 02:51:11.639 --> 02:51:14.319 there than just the rainbow. That's all we are ever 3353 02:51:14.440 --> 02:51:16.239 going to be able to see through our human eyes. 3354 02:51:16.840 --> 02:51:20.680 AI is continuously improving upon what it was able to 3355 02:51:20.719 --> 02:51:26.479 do yesterday as far as information goes, well, there's an 3356 02:51:26.559 --> 02:51:30.479 argument to say that not just information, dude, Like whenever 3357 02:51:30.479 --> 02:51:33.319 we have an AI driven robot. Yeah, the robot is 3358 02:51:33.360 --> 02:51:35.200 only going to be able to go so far before 3359 02:51:35.200 --> 02:51:37.840 it needs to recharge its batteries, right, And that's the 3360 02:51:37.879 --> 02:51:42.879 capability until it develops a better battery, until it develops 3361 02:51:42.959 --> 02:51:45.479 a better charging mechanism. Until That's what I'm saying. It 3362 02:51:45.639 --> 02:51:48.040 is improving upon itself to a point where we're not 3363 02:51:48.079 --> 02:51:50.040 going to be able to tell if it really is 3364 02:51:50.319 --> 02:51:54.719 answering us on its own or not. I think we're 3365 02:51:54.959 --> 02:51:56.399 kind of approaching that point at this time. 3366 02:51:56.479 --> 02:52:01.239 Honestly, Paradenimal said, soon the LGBT will have an R 3367 02:52:01.440 --> 02:52:02.399 for robosexual. 3368 02:52:03.159 --> 02:52:06.280 Dude, you ain't lying. The alphabet people are gonna add 3369 02:52:06.319 --> 02:52:10.000 another letter. I even think about this, fucking Japanese dude, 3370 02:52:12.239 --> 02:52:12.760 let's see. 3371 02:52:15.319 --> 02:52:17.280 Matthew Lane said, I just I just did a two 3372 02:52:17.360 --> 02:52:20.719 hour show with Tim Constantine on the Primary Water with Christine. 3373 02:52:22.399 --> 02:52:25.639 Joe is being sentenced Thursday at one thirty pm on 3374 02:52:25.959 --> 02:52:27.000 Sarasona County. 3375 02:52:28.159 --> 02:52:32.520 Fuck damn okay, love Tim Constantine. And also I really 3376 02:52:32.559 --> 02:52:35.120 hope that he gets freed. That's complete bullshit. 3377 02:52:36.559 --> 02:52:41.559 Yeah, it's very good, but they're Christine's out here trying 3378 02:52:41.600 --> 02:52:42.319 everything that can. 3379 02:52:42.399 --> 02:52:43.600 They subpoena at the judge. 3380 02:52:45.520 --> 02:52:49.239 I got the witness his pre sentencing on the first 3381 02:52:49.360 --> 02:52:54.159 August first, that fuck man. The disdain and look on 3382 02:52:54.239 --> 02:52:59.879 that judge's face him or at the case at Shoe. 3383 02:53:00.559 --> 02:53:04.159 She's got for him. And I think Christine mentioned this 3384 02:53:04.280 --> 02:53:05.079 on this show, like. 3385 02:53:07.879 --> 02:53:12.319 Joe got this water to somebody who's daughter had brain cancer. 3386 02:53:12.639 --> 02:53:14.920 Joe didn't knows brain cancer at first. 3387 02:53:14.799 --> 02:53:18.879 But they they gave this family two full five gallon 3388 02:53:19.040 --> 02:53:24.440 jugs of the Primary water, and this little girl's tumors slowly, 3389 02:53:24.639 --> 02:53:29.680 uh trank quite a bit, but as soon as they 3390 02:53:29.719 --> 02:53:32.000 ran out of the water, I guess it. 3391 02:53:32.399 --> 02:53:34.040 You know, I didn't cure it, but it was definitely 3392 02:53:34.079 --> 02:53:34.479 helping her. 3393 02:53:37.600 --> 02:53:40.319 I have a feeling from the story Christine told me, 3394 02:53:40.399 --> 02:53:43.520 like the doctors basically were like, yeah, this water is 3395 02:53:43.639 --> 02:53:46.120 making her sick, sicker or something like they turned the 3396 02:53:46.200 --> 02:53:50.600 tables on her the judgment. So you know, brain cancer, 3397 02:53:50.680 --> 02:53:56.799 you know that's a neuroscience basically, right, Judge Padar's father 3398 02:53:56.920 --> 02:53:58.879 is a neuroscience for a brain surgeon. 3399 02:53:59.760 --> 02:54:04.680 So wow, keep not working out for Joe. Everywhere he turned, 3400 02:54:05.520 --> 02:54:07.559 it's uh, the cards are stacked against them. 3401 02:54:07.600 --> 02:54:07.719 Man. 3402 02:54:08.000 --> 02:54:11.159 Like where I'm from, there was a girl who was 3403 02:54:11.280 --> 02:54:14.479 murdered in front of her two children. It was basically 3404 02:54:14.719 --> 02:54:21.040 conspired brother and sister who who this white girl was 3405 02:54:21.079 --> 02:54:23.840 fighting with this black girl and her brother went into 3406 02:54:24.120 --> 02:54:26.680 this girl, the white girl's house and shot her in 3407 02:54:26.799 --> 02:54:28.799 the chest three times in front of her kids, and 3408 02:54:28.879 --> 02:54:33.639 then posted all over social media about it. They got 3409 02:54:33.840 --> 02:54:36.959 less years in prison than Joe's about to get for 3410 02:54:37.200 --> 02:54:41.559 trying to bring health healthy water to the world. 3411 02:54:42.120 --> 02:54:44.399 Bro. I would love to see what the legal precedence 3412 02:54:44.600 --> 02:54:48.840 is for the sentence that he's about to get. But 3413 02:54:49.000 --> 02:54:50.600 you know, it's just going to be false claims. 3414 02:54:50.879 --> 02:54:54.399 And I don't I don't think Christine mentioned this because 3415 02:54:54.440 --> 02:54:56.399 she just told me. I just kind of was like, oh, 3416 02:54:56.440 --> 02:54:59.600 I didn't I don't think I knew that with this 3417 02:54:59.760 --> 02:55:03.239 Lean case, they didn't even tell the jury that he 3418 02:55:03.440 --> 02:55:06.319 was being sentenced, like he was facing jail time at all. 3419 02:55:06.680 --> 02:55:11.440 Joe barely even new until right like days before. So yeah, 3420 02:55:11.680 --> 02:55:13.959 it's it's left and right, man. 3421 02:55:14.879 --> 02:55:15.000 You know. 3422 02:55:15.200 --> 02:55:18.440 Christina said, like, no, nobody wants to come even try 3423 02:55:18.520 --> 02:55:20.639 to fight this court system because it's such a tight 3424 02:55:20.719 --> 02:55:21.200 knit group. 3425 02:55:21.399 --> 02:55:23.959 She's literally had lawyers say, sorry, we're not willing to 3426 02:55:24.040 --> 02:55:24.639 take this case. 3427 02:55:26.159 --> 02:55:31.479 Can't can't do it, Sarasota, No, thank you. So we're 3428 02:55:31.479 --> 02:55:33.639 still putting shows out there. I would love to come 3429 02:55:33.719 --> 02:55:36.239 back on here, guys, this show. Christine's been pretty overwhelmed 3430 02:55:36.280 --> 02:55:40.639 with trying to do whatever she can through the courts 3431 02:55:40.719 --> 02:55:43.079 to get Joe a fair trial, but it's not looking 3432 02:55:43.239 --> 02:55:43.600 very good. 3433 02:55:44.280 --> 02:55:48.079 But whether he gets sentenced Thursday or not, We're I'm 3434 02:55:48.120 --> 02:55:50.159 not gonna stop fighting for him. I'm still going to 3435 02:55:50.239 --> 02:55:53.399 try to find him help. So I appreciate you guys 3436 02:55:53.440 --> 02:55:55.319 are doing and letting me come on and bullshit about it. 3437 02:55:56.280 --> 02:55:59.760 So it's a real cause to get behind. I'll give 3438 02:55:59.760 --> 02:55:59.879 you that. 3439 02:56:00.040 --> 02:56:04.319 Yeah, absolutely, man, Yeah, buddy. Well, he also put the 3440 02:56:04.760 --> 02:56:07.200 the website if you want to go check out the website. 3441 02:56:06.840 --> 02:56:08.840 Called Gilbertie Blue Gold, or you can go back and 3442 02:56:08.920 --> 02:56:11.840 listen to that episode that we did about a month 3443 02:56:11.920 --> 02:56:13.840 month and a half ago something like that. Whenever we 3444 02:56:13.959 --> 02:56:17.239 had Christine and Matthew on the shows, it was a 3445 02:56:17.280 --> 02:56:19.000 good show, real quick. 3446 02:56:19.000 --> 02:56:20.799 Hopefully by next week I'll be coming on. 3447 02:56:22.280 --> 02:56:25.479 Next Tuesday and telling you guys that the samples what 3448 02:56:25.680 --> 02:56:28.680 they sent out results got back and it's all good news. 3449 02:56:28.799 --> 02:56:32.360 So let you guys know in the next week or two, 3450 02:56:33.600 --> 02:56:36.799 so that news come soon as those results come. 3451 02:56:36.719 --> 02:56:42.799 Back, it's going to blow up. Patrick Bet, David Crow, 3452 02:56:42.879 --> 02:56:46.520 Triple Seven. There's quite a few shows lined up waiting 3453 02:56:46.559 --> 02:56:48.399 for the results that want to have us on. 3454 02:56:48.600 --> 02:56:54.399 So tbd's on that, all right, Yeah. Interesting. Well, look, 3455 02:56:54.719 --> 02:56:57.079 you know, like everybody out there it's interested in that, 3456 02:56:57.239 --> 02:56:59.600 go check out that website and if you want to 3457 02:56:59.600 --> 02:57:02.280 be a part of that. It's a good thing, good 3458 02:57:02.319 --> 02:57:03.000 thing to get behind. 3459 02:57:03.200 --> 02:57:06.520 Like you said, you know what, I think that that's 3460 02:57:06.520 --> 02:57:08.920 probably a good place to wrap it on up though too, 3461 02:57:09.799 --> 02:57:13.959 just to end it on a good note note for 3462 02:57:14.040 --> 02:57:18.319 everybody to get behind kind of situation. Jacob Oh, Actually, 3463 02:57:18.840 --> 02:57:20.760 I do want to say this. Anybody that wants to 3464 02:57:20.799 --> 02:57:23.280 be able to be a part of these conversations, all 3465 02:57:23.319 --> 02:57:27.760 of these cult shenanigans as we get to literally everything 3466 02:57:27.840 --> 02:57:30.920 across the board. We talked about giants, we talked about 3467 02:57:31.760 --> 02:57:34.440 if sucking your own dick would be gay. I mean, 3468 02:57:34.520 --> 02:57:36.440 it's literally all over the damn place on this show. 3469 02:57:36.479 --> 02:57:37.920 If you want to be part of that, then you 3470 02:57:37.959 --> 02:57:40.360 got to patreon dot com slash Cultive Conspiracy Podcast. 3471 02:57:40.639 --> 02:57:42.120 That link is down the show notes below, and you 3472 02:57:42.159 --> 02:57:43.959 sign up for the Third Eye all the way open 3473 02:57:44.040 --> 02:57:46.840 to her. However, if you don't really care to be 3474 02:57:47.000 --> 02:57:50.159 on the cult member live shows every Tuesday night at 3475 02:57:50.200 --> 02:57:52.000 nine pm Central, and you just want to be able 3476 02:57:52.000 --> 02:57:53.479 to get the shows a couple of days in advance, 3477 02:57:53.520 --> 02:57:55.000 you want to be able to slide into our dms, 3478 02:57:55.000 --> 02:57:58.079 you want to be able to see actual video, then 3479 02:57:58.159 --> 02:58:02.319 you will have you. There's there's smaller tiers that you 3480 02:58:02.399 --> 02:58:05.440 can join and become a member of the cult there 3481 02:58:05.520 --> 02:58:08.600 as well. But probably the main reason why most people 3482 02:58:08.639 --> 02:58:12.799 go to Patreon is because it is completely commotional flush. 3483 02:58:14.479 --> 02:58:17.040 Yeah, so come check us out. We appreciate all the 3484 02:58:17.079 --> 02:58:20.879 good COLT members who have done so. 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