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Speaker 1: glad it's light out. You know. I know it's a
Speaker 1: bumpy day or two right when we spring four, but man,
Speaker 1: it is so nice to have it out, have it
Speaker 1: light this late. I mean, Ryan heroic yesterday right, filling
Speaker 1: in on short notice. I was in court and I'm
Speaker 1: so happy. We're trying to case up in Boulder that
Speaker 1: starts next Monday, probably go about a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: And you know, I started practicing law and Boulder and
Speaker 1: practice there for many years and did so much work
Speaker 1: in that courthouse. And it was so cool to walk
Speaker 1: back in yesterday. And then when we come out of court,
Speaker 1: and we got out of court after six last night
Speaker 1: and it's still light out, and that is just so cool. Right,
Speaker 1: And whoever is talking about changing all this so that
Speaker 1: it's going to get dark and at seven o'clock in
Speaker 1: the summer in Colorado, No, just stop that, right now.
Speaker 2: Keep it right here, we sprung forward. Yeah, we're now
Speaker 2: at daylight saving time. This is what we want, Dan,
Speaker 2: You and I could not agree more. We want the
Speaker 2: late night sunsets in the summer, come what may. In
Speaker 2: the winter it's dark anyway, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it's cold out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what good is it going to do?
Speaker 1: You'd have it light out in the winter right at
Speaker 1: six or seven at night, nobody cares. Oh honey, let's
Speaker 1: go freeze our tails off in the light instead of.
Speaker 2: The dark, right now, Rick Scott, and you know Senator Florida,
Speaker 2: And there's been several other Republicans, I think Marco Rubio,
Speaker 2: who I was in the Secretary of State so we
Speaker 2: wouldn't have a vote, but they have advocated to keep
Speaker 2: us locked in. And I think at this time for
Speaker 2: daylight saving time and just never fall back again. I'm
Speaker 2: on board with that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And I can't figure out who's arguing for
Speaker 1: the other and why. I just don't get that, because listen,
Speaker 1: not all months are created equal, right, And we all
Speaker 1: know in life, it's like seasons of life, and summertime
Speaker 1: it's just such precious time for almost every buddy, and
Speaker 1: you just you don't want to mess with that, so anyway,
Speaker 1: we'd like it the way it is right now. And
Speaker 1: who wants to move back? I mean, whoever sits around
Speaker 1: saying I want to go backwards in my life? That's
Speaker 1: really what I'm after, is going backwards in my life?
Speaker 1: Who does that? No, everybody wants to spring forward in
Speaker 1: their life. Yeah, speaking of which, we got a lot
Speaker 1: going on, so jump in on any of this, police,
Speaker 1: I am still studying. I think it's absolutely fascinating because
Speaker 1: I think it ties into a bunch of other stuff,
Speaker 1: not just religious stuff. But I think it's fascinating that
Speaker 1: we had this big explosion in Ash Wednesday turnout last
Speaker 1: week at least from everything I'm saying and experiencing, and
Speaker 1: it looks like it was around the world. So is
Speaker 1: it just tied into kind of this springtime, this worldwide
Speaker 1: springtime that the election of Trump has been kind of
Speaker 1: a catalyst to Yeah, I don't know, but we're talking
Speaker 1: about three h three someone three eight two five five
Speaker 1: techs d an five seven seven three nine now that
Speaker 1: this whole political season is heating up. I really, I
Speaker 1: really would love to get your take on what do
Speaker 1: you think it would take for the GOP to win
Speaker 1: in Colorado against statewide because let's face it, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're looking at this open governor's office and you're looking
Speaker 1: at Hickenlooper, and there's no reason at this point to
Speaker 1: think that either or both are insurmountable. So what do
Speaker 1: you think it would take to actually get there? And
Speaker 1: I think it's a good conversation to have on this
Speaker 1: show because I think a lot of Republicans have kind
Speaker 1: of given up. Not that they're quitters, that's just not
Speaker 1: the inherent nature of conservatives or conservatism, but I just
Speaker 1: think just kind of rationally, an awful lot of people
Speaker 1: on the right have just concluded it's not doable. Maybe
Speaker 1: some of y are some time, but not now. And
Speaker 1: what would it take to change that perception? That's an
Speaker 1: easy one to answer, right, It just takes somebody getting
Speaker 1: into a raise, generating some buzz, getting some good polling,
Speaker 1: and then people just rationally look at it and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: there may be a chance here. I think other people, Ryan,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are thinking that you
Speaker 1: know that the Colorado GOP, the Colorado GOP, and these
Speaker 1: upcoming elections, Colorado GOP comes out of that strong. I
Speaker 1: think that's going to make a lot more people think
Speaker 1: that there really is a chance here President Trump. I
Speaker 1: saw a headline up on the screen, Ryan, but we
Speaker 1: were in that very important interview with adf Did you
Speaker 1: see that headline? It may just be more fake news
Speaker 1: that President Trump has said that he is going to
Speaker 1: make this destruction of Tesla's destruction of Tesla's a what
Speaker 1: are they going to call it? Active domestic terrorism? Right?
Speaker 1: Domestic terrorism? Is that story true? Okay? Yeah, yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about that?
Speaker 2: I think something needs to be done because nobody on
Speaker 2: the left end, if you notice, has stood up and
Speaker 2: spoken out against this, which should be an obvious slam dunk.
Speaker 2: The Democrats just can't figure this out. There are radical,
Speaker 2: lunatic leftists who are setting charging stations on fire, trying
Speaker 2: to destroy Tesla cars at dealerships, and again, nobody on
Speaker 2: the left is going, you know what, that's a bridge
Speaker 2: too far. We don't like what Elon's doing either, but
Speaker 2: that's not the answer.
Speaker 1: Here's a perfect example of CNN headline up right now,
Speaker 1: Trump sinks stocks with trade war, but jumps into save musk.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, First of all, believe me, I feel
Speaker 1: the pain like everybody else does. Right, now when we
Speaker 1: see our four oh one case, etc. Take a hit
Speaker 1: over the last week or two, but stocks have not
Speaker 1: been sunk. There's no rational version of this where any
Speaker 1: of us can say it's been sung. Yeah, it's painful,
Speaker 1: but nobody's lost any money yet unless you've sold and
Speaker 1: the stocks have not been tanked. You see that word
Speaker 1: often right now too, And I just think we're going
Speaker 1: through a painful period as Trump pursues very important structural change.
Speaker 1: Is he right about what will create the structural change?
Speaker 1: I sure hope so, And he's earned at least my
Speaker 1: trust at this point, and I hope America gives him
Speaker 1: time because he's right about one thing, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: if we keep going on this economic track we're on
Speaker 1: right now, take Colorado taken nationally, this is going to
Speaker 1: end very badly. There's just no doubt it's going to
Speaker 1: end very badly. I mean that the state won't go
Speaker 1: broke because the state has tabor in effect, as much
Speaker 1: as the left wants to kill it, but the nation
Speaker 1: will reach that cliff. We all know that. But even
Speaker 1: worse than that, and I know that's pretty bad. Even
Speaker 1: worse than that, in the meantime, is just in people
Speaker 1: mocked Trump for saying this in connection with terrorists, but
Speaker 1: he's right. The soul of America, because we are flesh
Speaker 1: and blood. The economic piece of it is critical, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you need to eat and everything else in
Speaker 1: it's critical in a lot of ways. But the soul
Speaker 1: of America, the flesh and blood of America, our happiness
Speaker 1: is a nation, our togetherness is a nation. We cannot
Speaker 1: continue on the current economic track and expect to have
Speaker 1: that because there's too much haves and have nots. And
Speaker 1: that's not have and have nots. And that's not faulting
Speaker 1: the people who are prospering. I'm sure there are a
Speaker 1: few knuckleheads in there, but the point isn't to be
Speaker 1: jealous of the folks who are prospering. The point is
Speaker 1: we've got to in a purely free market kind of way,
Speaker 1: we've got to be altering the economic arc so that
Speaker 1: the rest of the people have a fair opportunity. And again,
Speaker 1: the starting point is, you don't blame the folks who
Speaker 1: are prospering. Now, yeah, a handful of cheaters or criminals
Speaker 1: or whatever out there, but that doesn't represent the majority.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get anywhere, you know, just just resenting,
Speaker 1: killing off over taxing the job creators. But unless we
Speaker 1: have some structural change in America that opens up the
Speaker 1: path for everybody else, then yeah, that the soul of
Speaker 1: America's is going to be shattered. We're not going to
Speaker 1: have a nation in the truest sense, and we're going
Speaker 1: to be undermining ourselves economically. The big problem we have
Speaker 1: is we've got a left that has a life and
Speaker 1: death vested interest in keeping most people down economically, and
Speaker 1: they start with people of color. And they've got to
Speaker 1: keep people down economically because the data is clear, once
Speaker 1: people start to make seventy grand or more, a majority
Speaker 1: are going to vote Republican. So the left has to
Speaker 1: keep people down. So they put all these policies in
Speaker 1: place designed to keep people down economically. And Trump's trying
Speaker 1: to do some structural things to blast that and to
Speaker 1: open things up. You know, picture clogged arteries, right, and
Speaker 1: you've got to run a balloon in there to open
Speaker 1: up the arteries and get that blood flowing. Now, Trump's
Speaker 1: trying to make some big time structural change, trying to
Speaker 1: clear some arteries out, and there are a few core
Speaker 1: ways to do that, but there's going to be pain
Speaker 1: in the meantime. Have you ever had that done, Ryan,
Speaker 1: where somebody runs something India and they use a balloon
Speaker 1: or something clear out some arteries.
Speaker 2: Thank god, No, not yet Oka at age fifty.
Speaker 1: I haven't either. But my guess is there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of pain associated.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard it from my uncle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be some pain associated with these structural changes.
Speaker 1: But the alternative is to just stay on the same track.
Speaker 1: And if Trump just paper over it, which you could
Speaker 1: have easily done, just papered over it by borrowing more, etc.
Speaker 1: But no, I think he's a man on a mission
Speaker 1: to make some long term change to benefit you know
Speaker 1: that the working people of America. You know, the folks
Speaker 1: who've been deprived of opportunity in America. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's on a mission, and I trust him and for me,
Speaker 1: you know, my own four oh one K and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff. Yeah, it's been a real painful week
Speaker 1: or two. But I'm willing to endure that pain. And
Speaker 1: of course I'm betting. Yeah, you know, I haven't lost
Speaker 1: a diamon until I sell right, right.
Speaker 2: And let's keep our eyes on the prize here a
Speaker 2: little bit. Dan it's a marathon, not a sprint. And
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has done a good job of coming out
Speaker 2: of the gate quick the executive orders and trying to
Speaker 2: pummel Democrats with one issue after the other. But this
Speaker 2: is going to be a slog. It's a four year run.
Speaker 2: It's a two year run that matters before the midterm elections.
Speaker 2: And he can't be prisoners of the moment. They'll tell
Speaker 2: you that too in financial advising as well. Pump the
Speaker 2: brakes a little bit. It's not even been two full
Speaker 2: months since he's been president. He has a vision, he
Speaker 2: has a plan, stick to the script, trust the process.
Speaker 2: Just write it out. It's going to be fine. That's
Speaker 2: my advice.
Speaker 1: And when we come back, I'll tell you why I
Speaker 1: think Trump's right if he is in fact saying that
Speaker 1: this movement out there now to target Tesla's is a
Speaker 1: form of domestic terrorism, and some text somewhat it takes
Speaker 1: to have the Republican Party win, and I think the
Speaker 1: first one is way off. It says Colorado Republicans need
Speaker 1: to bend on some issues. Let's take that on because
Speaker 1: I think that would be the immediate exit rimp to oblivion.
Speaker 1: You're on the DAN Capla.
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Speaker 1: He said, Look, we're going to have disruption, but we're
Speaker 1: okay with that. Is that what you meant the stock
Speaker 1: market going downs? The disruption? What on the reuption where
Speaker 1: you were alluding to, Look, what I have to do
Speaker 1: is build a strong country. You can't really watch the
Speaker 1: stock market. If you look at China, they have one
Speaker 1: hundred year perspective. We have a quarter by quarters. That's true,
Speaker 1: and you can't go by that. You have to do
Speaker 1: what's right. What we're doing is we're building a tremendous
Speaker 1: foundation for the future. Tremendous foundation. Yeah, and I trust him.
Speaker 1: I have no problem saying that. I think he's earned
Speaker 1: that trust, and conceptually I love what he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: trying to make this kind of structural change. Was I'm
Speaker 1: no expert on tariffs. I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: the best way to do it. I just know the
Speaker 1: old way is not working well enough, and anybody who's
Speaker 1: being honest about it would say that. And we cannot
Speaker 1: abandon free market. I'm not talking about any of that,
Speaker 1: but the old way for the reasons I talked about
Speaker 1: before the break in my opinion, is not working even
Speaker 1: close to well enough. So let's go to the phone lines,
Speaker 1: get some text and I you know, think about it.
Speaker 1: Think how much you have to respect this guy because
Speaker 1: it would have been so easy for him. Right, He's
Speaker 1: off to the best start any president we can remember.
Speaker 1: And then all he has to do on the economic
Speaker 1: front is doing most other presidents do and just keep
Speaker 1: borrowing money, you know, keep it everybody on a sugar high,
Speaker 1: and then leave it to the next guy or gal
Speaker 1: down the road to take the beating. But he's not
Speaker 1: doing that, and I respect the heck out of him
Speaker 1: for that. He really, he really wants to leave a
Speaker 1: legacy of change, and I believe it very very committed
Speaker 1: to the working people of America because that's who stands
Speaker 1: to really benefit. And then we all benefit from that, right,
Speaker 1: But that's who stands to really benefit. Chris in beautiful
Speaker 1: Colorado Springs, Colorado, home to one of the great resorts
Speaker 1: of the world, which is amazing. Ryan, have you been
Speaker 1: to the Broad Moor?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Nobod, I've heard all about it. Oh you have got
Speaker 4: to go. Okay you and your bride? Hello, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you've got I mean, it's just one of the great
Speaker 4: responds to the world. Chris, you are here. It may
Speaker 4: not feel like that or seem like that, but you are.
Speaker 4: Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 3: Have you been to the Broadkon No? Uh, yeah, they
Speaker 3: have an intent wine selection at one of the restaurants there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I appreciate greatly, pretty good golf course. I was cold
Speaker 3: to say that. No, I don't think they called him
Speaker 3: to go wednestate wide election in the street for a while, buzzkill.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you know, when I first got here,
Speaker 3: was a guy named Corey who is our state or
Speaker 3: you are a senator, and some people seem not to
Speaker 3: like him to be on the line. You know, I
Speaker 3: got to spend a lot of time with this guy,
Speaker 3: Joe O'Day running through the US Senate. Yeah, he seemed
Speaker 3: like a perfectly good candidate. It's like, really rational guy,
Speaker 3: so we can get along with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe daves awesome in every way. But one.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, okay, you know my wife is austin
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 1: But one depends on what that one is. If the
Speaker 1: one is that she's cheating on you, it's a pretty
Speaker 1: big one. And I'm not saying she is.
Speaker 3: I'm sure she's well, I'm sure that Joe They wasn't
Speaker 3: cheating on me either.
Speaker 1: But Chris, and listen the Joe Day sing.
Speaker 3: Thisicians, I was.
Speaker 1: Not suggesting any intimacy. What I was saying, Chris, is
Speaker 1: the Joe Day Sing is a great, great example for
Speaker 1: us because I like him and I view him. I
Speaker 1: view him as an A plus candidate in every way
Speaker 1: but one. But that one is foundational and and it
Speaker 1: just goes to my point that no matter what your
Speaker 1: position may be on what abortion policy should be in
Speaker 1: Colorado and America, if a Republican nominee for statewide office
Speaker 1: is pro abortion, they are losing, and they are losing
Speaker 1: badly because they're going to lose an awful lot of Republicans.
Speaker 1: And then there's no way they're going to win pro
Speaker 1: abortion votes because if that's somebody's priority, they're going to
Speaker 1: vote for the abortion maniacs. They're going to vote for
Speaker 1: the abortion machine.
Speaker 3: Well look, man, I mean, I don't know if you're
Speaker 3: looking around the state that closely thought, you know this
Speaker 3: is a libertarian state. Most people stay a.
Speaker 1: Libertarian whoa, whoa, my brother, my brother.
Speaker 3: Oh, let's to spare my idea. A whole lot one second,
Speaker 3: and then you know, and then and then when I
Speaker 3: was talking people with Vicky Tonkins and she said that
Speaker 3: Colorado just needs more conservative leadership. Yes, she didn't need
Speaker 3: more number conservatives, she meant more quality conservatives. Yes, And
Speaker 3: that's that's obviously not winning well in the state.
Speaker 1: But then the question is how do you win?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And so what you're suggesting, Chris and and other people
Speaker 1: have before is that the GOP needs to give up
Speaker 1: its pro life position and become pro abortion. And what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is, oh, okay, then I misread you, Joe
Speaker 1: O'Day is exhibit A that ain't working, and it's never
Speaker 1: gonna work, and it shouldn't work. And in terms of
Speaker 1: Colorado being libertarian, you know, we could waste time on definitions,
Speaker 1: but if you're talking at that point about personal freedom,
Speaker 1: I would agree with you on that in terms of
Speaker 1: ballot measures, etc. But obviously in our libertarian friends would
Speaker 1: never suggest this. You're gonna have some lines, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: somebody should not have the liberty, for example, to have
Speaker 1: a slave right rhetorical but okay, But for the same reason,
Speaker 1: somebody shouldn't have the liberty to take an innocent person's life.
Speaker 1: And that is a matter of medical fact, is what
Speaker 1: abortion does. But here's how Republicans can win. I mean,
Speaker 1: Republicans can win by making people's lives better while staying
Speaker 1: true to conservative principles. That's how you win. You don't
Speaker 1: win by running around with five talking points on these
Speaker 1: and principles that are so important. You run around by saying,
Speaker 1: here's how I'm gonna make your life better, and here's
Speaker 1: why it's really gonna work, and here's why it's consistent
Speaker 1: with these big principles that will let us be better forever.
Speaker 1: That's how you win. Is there a flaw in that logic?
Speaker 1: My friend?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I haven't seen it happen yet in
Speaker 3: your state, and you know in a couple other states
Speaker 3: that might work. You know, I used to live in
Speaker 3: Tennessee and that'll work in Tennessee. Is like yourself lives
Speaker 3: in Chicago and that's not gonna work space, And you
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta win first, yeah, and then then the
Speaker 3: people get to give you the key. Well, we'll give
Speaker 3: you the kings until you win.
Speaker 1: Right, But how do you win? And you're a great color, Chris,
Speaker 1: thank you. How do you win? You win by you
Speaker 1: have to have the right candidate, obviously, but then you
Speaker 1: have to convince people because it has to be real, improvable.
Speaker 1: I am going to make your life better in these specific, exciting,
Speaker 1: major ways, and here's why and how it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: That's how you break through. You're on the Dan.
Speaker 2: Kaplish you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Did you number the year in that song?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: God, seventies, early seventies? Say where were you in the song? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, no, That's that's why I mentioned that because I was,
Speaker 1: I think early in my CU career. Yeah. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: a song man, that's epic. Glad you're here. Three O
Speaker 1: three someone three eight two five five the number techs
Speaker 1: d A N five seven seven three nine. Congratulations to
Speaker 1: our son Joe. His team won the big semi finals
Speaker 1: in their law school moot court competition. Over four hundred
Speaker 1: people attending in the courtroom. Really big deal. So it's
Speaker 1: moot he's been Yeah you got mock trial or say
Speaker 1: you're simulating a trial, right, and then moot court is
Speaker 1: where you're simulating an appellate process, a US Supreme Court argument.
Speaker 1: So at a school they bring in some circuit court justices,
Speaker 1: some appellate court justes at the federal level. And then
Speaker 1: you know, there are like tons of teams made up
Speaker 1: of law school students who compete and and Joe's privileged
Speaker 1: being a team that got all the way to the
Speaker 1: Semis and then then one last night in the Semis
Speaker 1: against all other really good team. Yeah, just so proud
Speaker 1: of them because whatever kids are into, right, they're owing
Speaker 1: the different stuff, but just the work and the work
Speaker 1: ethic and just working around the clock. And you'll love
Speaker 1: to see that rewarded with the big victory. So yeah,
Speaker 1: congrats to them and to all of the kids. I
Speaker 1: call them kids, some of them probably older than I am.
Speaker 1: But eight five five four zero five eight two five
Speaker 1: five the number text d A N five seven seven
Speaker 1: three nine. Programming note for tomorrow, we're going to be
Speaker 1: talking about this study that's out is sports gambling now
Speaker 1: that we've had a few years to see how it
Speaker 1: rolls out here pun intended? Is sports gambling undermining Colorado?
Speaker 1: Is it putting a lot of families on the brink financially?
Speaker 1: Is it taking a whole lot of money out of
Speaker 1: the mainstream economy? So and listen, hey, you know, look
Speaker 1: at my phone right now, I got my MGM app
Speaker 1: and I do some legal sports betting, small time stuff,
Speaker 1: but it could be kind of fun, and I happen
Speaker 1: to be particularly good at it. Not to brag or anything.
Speaker 1: I don't recommend it as a hobby, but but I
Speaker 1: enjoy it. But yeah, it this study does not surprise me.
Speaker 1: Would it surprise you at all? Ryan? If because right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, our kids are out of the house,
Speaker 1: and I just do small time stuff anyway, But would
Speaker 1: it surprise you if there were a bunch of you know,
Speaker 1: young families and everything else where you know, where all
Speaker 1: of a sudden a bet goes bad and then it's
Speaker 1: hard to pay the bills that week. And don't mean
Speaker 1: anybody's a bad person or doesn't love their kids or
Speaker 1: anything else, but this stuff can get pretty addictive.
Speaker 2: There's an episode of Sopranos that really stands out. If
Speaker 2: you remember the policeman from Terminator two, the actor that
Speaker 2: portrays him that he kind of melds into different forms. Well,
Speaker 2: he plays this a sporting goods store owner and he
Speaker 2: gets in debt to Tony Soprano after a poker game
Speaker 2: gone bad, and you can kind of imagine where it
Speaker 2: goes from there. The mob bleeds him dry, he loses
Speaker 2: his son's college fund. I mean, yeah, it can get
Speaker 2: real serious in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1: Well, it's so much easier when it's an app, right,
Speaker 1: and you can do it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like the same when you're at a
Speaker 2: table betting chips on blackjack or poker and you lose them.
Speaker 2: You feel that when you're on an app, it almost
Speaker 2: kind of desensitizes you to it.
Speaker 1: And it's right, it's just so easy. It's me. It's
Speaker 1: just so easy.
Speaker 2: Never bet more than you're comfortable losing, right, which is
Speaker 2: easy to say, I know.
Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is I I believe these studies.
Speaker 1: I believe this study. Now, I'm not saying it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be legal. I'm just saying, let's be honest about what's
Speaker 1: going on out there. Oh yeah, And then you also
Speaker 1: get into the money it takes out of the mainstream
Speaker 1: economy correct and takes out of state. You know, you
Speaker 1: get into those issues as well. Again, the point isn't
Speaker 1: at the end of this rainbow we say you can't
Speaker 1: do that. I mean, it's a free society, but let's
Speaker 1: be realistic about the price that's being paid for certain things.
Speaker 1: That's that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think I take after my dad on this front,
Speaker 2: and in a good way, is that we neither of
Speaker 2: us are big gamblers. And I kind of took this
Speaker 2: from him, I believe, because I hate losing so much
Speaker 2: more than I enjoy winning.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Period, The only significant gambling that I ever did, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't crazy stuff. But before I got married, do
Speaker 1: you remember a guy named Mike Florax. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: the name, right, Mike Florax used to be Lewis and
Speaker 1: floor x or Lewis still a great, great radio personality
Speaker 1: and a great human. But before I got married, and
Speaker 1: it was just me and my dog, and you know,
Speaker 1: I would get into some games with Mike and we'd
Speaker 1: get into Wax. We get into some games with Fag
Speaker 1: so it's very very good golfer, and those games would
Speaker 1: get significant. But the funny thing is it didn't even
Speaker 1: have to wait till I got married. As soon as
Speaker 1: I got engaged, that wasn't fun anymore, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It was it was fun to go play
Speaker 1: with Mike and all that, and I love the thrill
Speaker 1: of you got to make this potter, you're going to
Speaker 1: throw up. Yeah, But even once I got engaged, it's
Speaker 1: like it wasn't my money anymore. And believe me, that's
Speaker 1: not Amy's attitude. Amy. Amy's the best in the world
Speaker 1: when it comes to that kind of stuff and everything.
Speaker 2: Really, but you feel accountable to her as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like it's not your money anymore, right, it's your like
Speaker 2: our money yours and.
Speaker 1: A right, right and so yeah, But until then it
Speaker 1: was Yeah, that's the only time I got into anything
Speaker 1: really meaningful. But but yeah, hey, now by business people
Speaker 1: get to do what they want to do. There, I
Speaker 1: can just see where it really could be a big
Speaker 1: problem right now in Colorado. Not the biggest problem we have. No,
Speaker 1: what's the biggest problem we have.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it right now, based on what we've
Speaker 2: been covering, Dan and I can break this too. I
Speaker 2: believe there's going to be a part two to the
Speaker 2: Columbine High School grooming story from Seawan Boyd on CBS
Speaker 2: four upcoming. I believe it's early next week.
Speaker 1: Is you're gonna have mom.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that yet, uh, in communication obviously, Lindsay,
Speaker 2: Dad Co, Jeff Co kids First, Yeah, great in my view,
Speaker 2: and having interviewed Aaron Lee yesterday, I think it's our
Speaker 2: education system at war with parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you speaking of Aaron Lee, and this is, you
Speaker 1: know how ironic. We didn't have time to work on
Speaker 1: it yesterday because I was in court and it was
Speaker 1: a real privilege to be in court until six o'clock
Speaker 1: last night. I mean, that's just that is great stuff.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is we need to be lining
Speaker 1: up some day new blog right to fill in for
Speaker 1: me when I'm in these jury trouts, because I've got
Speaker 1: seven between now and the end of the year. The
Speaker 1: first one starts next Monday. And what about adding Aaron
Speaker 1: Lee to that list. I'll text her right now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because she starts doing great work. Oh yeah, she's good,
Speaker 1: great work, real good at what she does. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I watched her documentary last night and Art Club, which
Speaker 2: was anything but an art club.
Speaker 1: And for those who don't know Aaron Lee, she went
Speaker 1: through this horrible experience where her daughter was being transitioned
Speaker 1: at school without her knowledge, right, and then she found
Speaker 1: out and she saved her daughter, and now she's championing
Speaker 1: this for all parents.
Speaker 2: Well, it was under false pretenses too. They told Odd
Speaker 2: it's this art club, Win Art Club, and it's an
Speaker 2: LGBTQ and doctrination club. Which if it's such a great thing,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you just be out in the open about
Speaker 2: that and honest about it? Why would you be cloke
Speaker 2: and dagger. So Aaron helped put together this documentary called
Speaker 2: Art Club. You can find it on YouTube or online
Speaker 2: and I watched it last night. Just jaw a Gape.
Speaker 2: Dan ad so many hurdles, obstacles, adversarial relationships. And it
Speaker 2: was not her fault or her husband's the parents of
Speaker 2: this young girl who is not sixteen. It's just there
Speaker 2: are many of these administrators and staff are determined to
Speaker 2: drive a wedge between parents and their kids.
Speaker 1: But think about the attitude, right like this Columbine story
Speaker 1: with covering, where where you had people at the school
Speaker 1: Jeffco County Schools, you had people at the school who
Speaker 1: were signing forms behind the parents back to have this
Speaker 1: this child declared homeless so the child could be moved
Speaker 1: into with the teacher. At the same time the child
Speaker 1: was being preyed upon by another teacher. But just part
Speaker 1: of this attitude, and I'm not saying all teachers share it.
Speaker 1: But part of this attitude way too prevalent, and government
Speaker 1: runs schools that they're not Your kids are our kids.
Speaker 1: We know better, you know what they and we're going
Speaker 1: to do what we want with nipping right with the
Speaker 1: point you just made in the bud and putting a
Speaker 1: fine point on it. We need more teachers, good teachers,
Speaker 1: and these public schools and I know it won't be easy,
Speaker 1: but you've got to speak out and call out what's
Speaker 1: going on in these school for what it is. My brother,
Speaker 1: we have the easiest fix in the world, the simple,
Speaker 1: easiest fix. It's been the secret sauce American success from
Speaker 1: the beginning. It's competition. If you had true school choice,
Speaker 1: this kind of blank that you saw out of Columbine,
Speaker 1: this kind of blank that you see with Aaron's kids,
Speaker 1: it would not exist because a school like that, if
Speaker 1: they pull some stuff like that. In a true free
Speaker 1: market education economy where middle and lower income parents are
Speaker 1: economically empowered because they can take that money that's going
Speaker 1: to be spent at the public school and they can
Speaker 1: go to these private schools that are popping up because
Speaker 1: now parents have the money to pay for them. Because
Speaker 1: the parents have been empowered that way. Then at that
Speaker 1: point a school wouldn't dare pull what they pulled at
Speaker 1: Columbine because that school would would be economically devastated. Nobody
Speaker 1: would want to go there. Everybody would leave, and they'd
Speaker 1: have the ability to leave because they'd have true school choice.
Speaker 1: That's how you fix all this in a heartbeat. It
Speaker 1: really literally hurts my heart to say that about Columbine
Speaker 1: because I think of the greatness of Columbine and the
Speaker 1: greatness of Columbine after that horrific attack on Columbine. But yeah, you,
Speaker 1: schools wouldn't even dream of doing this because the free
Speaker 1: market would rise up against them and punish them for
Speaker 1: doing it. But right now they don't face any punishment
Speaker 1: for doing that on any level. Exhibit A for school choice.
Speaker 2: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5: I thank you so much, but I've always wanted a
Speaker 5: partner to be on the same wavelength, and so today
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 1: Leaves them at the altar over politics. He's mega.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but I don't want that to be misunderstood.
Speaker 5: I still love you, and everything about you is amazing,
Speaker 5: and I care about.
Speaker 1: You so much. I care about you too. I love
Speaker 1: you so much, and I know I want to stay
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: I keep growing our relationship if you will let you
Speaker 2: save the man.
Speaker 1: See, I'll talk about that.
Speaker 5: I know that the connection we have is so real
Speaker 5: and my heart is there. But we've talked about a
Speaker 5: lot of the values that I hold so close.
Speaker 1: To my heart.
Speaker 5: Making this decision, my mind is telling me I can't.
Speaker 1: Then she leaves them at the altar. How many relationships
Speaker 1: do you think break up over politics? I understand there
Speaker 1: are probably a bunch that just never get going, right.
Speaker 1: And how many of those couples out there right now
Speaker 1: are opposites? Right? I wonder? I wonder. I think it's
Speaker 1: a lot fewer, beautiful Bride. I mean, you guys are
Speaker 1: a lying political very much so Kelly and Adam right,
Speaker 1: you're aligned politically? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I think. I
Speaker 1: think Amy and I are the exception.
Speaker 2: It was a different time though, back when you two met,
Speaker 2: and I think it's changed so much.
Speaker 1: Dan, we're not the flint Stones.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying that it was a lot more
Speaker 2: conceivable that. Oh I voted for Clinton, Oh I voted
Speaker 2: for Dole.
Speaker 1: Oh well, dude, what history books are you reading?
Speaker 2: I mean, we political differences were they were not a.
Speaker 1: Ninety three married in ninety four. Yeah, yeah, no, it
Speaker 1: was pretty intense. Yeah yeah, I mean just political differences.
Speaker 1: We're pretty intense back then the Clinton Oh yeah, nothing
Speaker 1: compared to now. Well it's getting worse over time, yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, no, yeah, so no, what what percentage of couples?
Speaker 1: And I'd love to hear from somebody say, if you're
Speaker 1: in a couple where you know your politics, just agree
Speaker 1: and listen with Amy and me. I mean, I'll see
Speaker 1: if she's still a registered Democrat. She was for at
Speaker 1: least the first twenty nine years of our marriage. But
Speaker 1: she's not some crazy far lefty. I mean John McCain
Speaker 1: asked her to host a town hall firm she did that,
Speaker 1: things like that. I mean, no, she's a thinking person
Speaker 1: who just you know, does what she feels is right.
Speaker 1: But she's not a prisoner of a political party.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: But it is kind of remarkable she made this one decision,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You mean you yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's maybe that's something to do with maybe my plan
Speaker 1: work proposing on air, right, because it's a little harder
Speaker 1: to say no when you know the guy's going to
Speaker 1: be like banished from civilized world.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to put it this way. No man
Speaker 2: has ever had more brass, let's just put it that
Speaker 2: way than you in that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those were metallic body parts at that moment, there
Speaker 1: was no doubt about it, because there would not have
Speaker 1: been any place to hide. No, rely on the face
Speaker 1: of the earth, there would have been no place to hide.
Speaker 2: Was there even one percent of you that was unsure
Speaker 2: or was it even more than that.
Speaker 1: There was a big percent of me that was unsure.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: We had never talked about marriage. D the word, the
Speaker 1: M word had never been spoken. No, never talk about
Speaker 1: shooting your shot. Damn. You got to life short, right,
Speaker 1: It's like a half court for short life short. Well,
Speaker 1: she was merciful. That was a sympathy. Yes, but I'll
Speaker 1: take it. I remember I found almost thirty one years later,
Speaker 1: I found I did. I've never seen it.
Speaker 2: I have the sound in the archives at the reprise
Speaker 2: that you know it was right?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, But it was such an intense personal experience.
Speaker 1: That's why I've never watched the video. You've never watched
Speaker 1: the video? Yeah, damn that.
Speaker 2: I was there, you lived.
Speaker 1: I was there. Yeah, there's this one angle that you
Speaker 1: can't see in the video. And if you're new to
Speaker 1: the show, thank you if you wonder what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: I had My wife was this phenomenal star news anchor
Speaker 1: on Channel four in Denver. I was the legal reporter,
Speaker 1: and I decided that I was going to propose. And
Speaker 1: we never talked about marriage, but I was going to propose,
Speaker 1: and I was going to do it during the newscast.
Speaker 1: I just thought it would bring a lot of joy
Speaker 1: and be a lot of fun and increase my chances
Speaker 1: she'd say yes. And so I went to legendary big
Speaker 1: boss Roger Ogden, just this big, big time national media
Speaker 1: executive happened to be the top guy Channel four. And
Speaker 1: I talked to Roger and explained, you know why I
Speaker 1: wanted to do it. It would just be a very
Speaker 1: positive thing. And he thought about a good guy and
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, go ahead and do it. And I
Speaker 1: remember I and as I was walking into the studio
Speaker 1: and like I'd got in the ring and everything, I'm
Speaker 1: walking into the studio, Roger literally comes running down the
Speaker 1: hall behind me saying, don't do it. I changed my
Speaker 1: mind and I turned around and looked at him, consummate
Speaker 1: respect for Roger and just said too late.
Speaker 2: He was at messing with you.
Speaker 1: No, he had changed his mind, lord wow, And so
Speaker 1: I just said sorry too late, walked into the studio
Speaker 1: and fortunately she said, yes, rest is history. We should
Speaker 1: talk someday on the show about you know, couples out
Speaker 1: there who just have opposite political views and how they
Speaker 1: navigate it. For us, it's not genius, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: we just don't talk politics. Don't tell yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: talk politics. Yeah. But and there's plenty other things to
Speaker 1: talk about. Glad you're with us today, Lots to do.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow we will talk about this new peace out. Is
Speaker 1: legalized sports gambling in Colorado doing a lot of damage,
Speaker 1: causing a lot of families to be on the edge financially,
Speaker 1: taking money out of the mainstream economy. Not talking about
Speaker 1: making it illegal, but just talking about is that the
Speaker 1: reality of it that much more? Tomorrow. Thank you ran
Speaker 1: tremendous job. As always, Kelly, You're the best. Join us
Speaker 1: tomorrow please on the Dan Kapla Show.