WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.519 single day on your favorite podcast platform. Right you're hearing 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.000 glad it's light out. You know. I know it's a 7 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:20.640 bumpy day or two right when we spring four, but man, 8 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:23.039 it is so nice to have it out, have it 9 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:26.359 light this late. I mean, Ryan heroic yesterday right, filling 10 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:29.399 in on short notice. I was in court and I'm 11 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:31.920 so happy. We're trying to case up in Boulder that 12 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:34.799 starts next Monday, probably go about a couple of weeks. 13 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:37.359 And you know, I started practicing law and Boulder and 14 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:39.920 practice there for many years and did so much work 15 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:42.039 in that courthouse. And it was so cool to walk 16 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:44.640 back in yesterday. And then when we come out of court, 17 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:47.920 and we got out of court after six last night 18 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:52.000 and it's still light out, and that is just so cool. Right, 19 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:55.560 And whoever is talking about changing all this so that 20 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:57.840 it's going to get dark and at seven o'clock in 21 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:01.000 the summer in Colorado, No, just stop that, right now. 22 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:04.840 Keep it right here, we sprung forward. Yeah, we're now 23 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.959 at daylight saving time. This is what we want, Dan, 24 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:09.799 You and I could not agree more. We want the 25 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:13.319 late night sunsets in the summer, come what may. In 26 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:15.920 the winter it's dark anyway, I. 27 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:16.719 Mean it's cold out. 28 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:18.400 Yeah, what good is it going to do? 29 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.519 You'd have it light out in the winter right at 30 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:23.760 six or seven at night, nobody cares. Oh honey, let's 31 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.599 go freeze our tails off in the light instead of. 32 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:29.680 The dark, right now, Rick Scott, and you know Senator Florida, 33 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:31.959 And there's been several other Republicans, I think Marco Rubio, 34 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:33.400 who I was in the Secretary of State so we 35 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.120 wouldn't have a vote, but they have advocated to keep 36 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:38.319 us locked in. And I think at this time for 37 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.480 daylight saving time and just never fall back again. I'm 38 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:42.120 on board with that. 39 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:44.760 Oh yeah. And I can't figure out who's arguing for 40 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:49.480 the other and why. I just don't get that, because listen, 41 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.920 not all months are created equal, right, And we all 42 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.799 know in life, it's like seasons of life, and summertime 43 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.359 it's just such precious time for almost every buddy, and 44 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:05.560 you just you don't want to mess with that, so anyway, 45 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:07.840 we'd like it the way it is right now. And 46 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.800 who wants to move back? I mean, whoever sits around 47 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:13.240 saying I want to go backwards in my life? That's 48 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.560 really what I'm after, is going backwards in my life? 49 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.759 Who does that? No, everybody wants to spring forward in 50 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:24.680 their life. Yeah, speaking of which, we got a lot 51 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.719 going on, so jump in on any of this, police, 52 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:31.560 I am still studying. I think it's absolutely fascinating because 53 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.240 I think it ties into a bunch of other stuff, 54 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:37.319 not just religious stuff. But I think it's fascinating that 55 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.719 we had this big explosion in Ash Wednesday turnout last 56 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:44.240 week at least from everything I'm saying and experiencing, and 57 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.879 it looks like it was around the world. So is 58 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:52.560 it just tied into kind of this springtime, this worldwide 59 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:57.120 springtime that the election of Trump has been kind of 60 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.960 a catalyst to Yeah, I don't know, but we're talking 61 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:03.039 about three h three someone three eight two five five 62 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:08.400 techs d an five seven seven three nine now that 63 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.960 this whole political season is heating up. I really, I 64 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:12.560 really would love to get your take on what do 65 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.439 you think it would take for the GOP to win 66 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.000 in Colorado against statewide because let's face it, I mean, 67 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:22.360 you're looking at this open governor's office and you're looking 68 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:26.039 at Hickenlooper, and there's no reason at this point to 69 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.479 think that either or both are insurmountable. So what do 70 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:31.319 you think it would take to actually get there? And 71 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:33.599 I think it's a good conversation to have on this 72 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:38.639 show because I think a lot of Republicans have kind 73 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.680 of given up. Not that they're quitters, that's just not 74 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:45.639 the inherent nature of conservatives or conservatism, but I just 75 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.800 think just kind of rationally, an awful lot of people 76 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.759 on the right have just concluded it's not doable. Maybe 77 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:54.639 some of y are some time, but not now. And 78 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:58.319 what would it take to change that perception? That's an 79 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:01.280 easy one to answer, right, It just takes somebody getting 80 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.199 into a raise, generating some buzz, getting some good polling, 81 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:06.840 and then people just rationally look at it and say, Okay, 82 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:09.439 there may be a chance here. I think other people, Ryan, 83 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:11.800 I think a lot of people are thinking that you 84 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:17.279 know that the Colorado GOP, the Colorado GOP, and these 85 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:21.079 upcoming elections, Colorado GOP comes out of that strong. I 86 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.720 think that's going to make a lot more people think 87 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:27.079 that there really is a chance here President Trump. I 88 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:28.920 saw a headline up on the screen, Ryan, but we 89 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.680 were in that very important interview with adf Did you 90 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.800 see that headline? It may just be more fake news 91 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:38.240 that President Trump has said that he is going to 92 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:45.800 make this destruction of Tesla's destruction of Tesla's a what 93 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.879 are they going to call it? Active domestic terrorism? Right? 94 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:53.480 Domestic terrorism? Is that story true? Okay? Yeah, yeah, how 95 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:54.399 do you feel about that? 96 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.240 I think something needs to be done because nobody on 97 00:04:57.240 --> 00:04:59.319 the left end, if you notice, has stood up and 98 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:02.759 spoken out against this, which should be an obvious slam dunk. 99 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.279 The Democrats just can't figure this out. There are radical, 100 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:10.399 lunatic leftists who are setting charging stations on fire, trying 101 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:13.959 to destroy Tesla cars at dealerships, and again, nobody on 102 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:15.839 the left is going, you know what, that's a bridge 103 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:18.120 too far. We don't like what Elon's doing either, but 104 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:18.879 that's not the answer. 105 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.439 Here's a perfect example of CNN headline up right now, 106 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.680 Trump sinks stocks with trade war, but jumps into save musk. 107 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.360 Wait a second, First of all, believe me, I feel 108 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.199 the pain like everybody else does. Right, now when we 109 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.720 see our four oh one case, etc. Take a hit 110 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.920 over the last week or two, but stocks have not 111 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:41.600 been sunk. There's no rational version of this where any 112 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.839 of us can say it's been sung. Yeah, it's painful, 113 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.800 but nobody's lost any money yet unless you've sold and 114 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.480 the stocks have not been tanked. You see that word 115 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.920 often right now too, And I just think we're going 116 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:59.000 through a painful period as Trump pursues very important structural change. 117 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:01.839 Is he right about what will create the structural change? 118 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.560 I sure hope so, And he's earned at least my 119 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:07.480 trust at this point, and I hope America gives him 120 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.120 time because he's right about one thing, right. I mean, 121 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.399 if we keep going on this economic track we're on 122 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:16.839 right now, take Colorado taken nationally, this is going to 123 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.560 end very badly. There's just no doubt it's going to 124 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.720 end very badly. I mean that the state won't go 125 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:25.519 broke because the state has tabor in effect, as much 126 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.160 as the left wants to kill it, but the nation 127 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.720 will reach that cliff. We all know that. But even 128 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.000 worse than that, and I know that's pretty bad. Even 129 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:38.759 worse than that, in the meantime, is just in people 130 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:40.959 mocked Trump for saying this in connection with terrorists, but 131 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:45.639 he's right. The soul of America, because we are flesh 132 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.800 and blood. The economic piece of it is critical, right, 133 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:49.480 I mean, you need to eat and everything else in 134 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:52.279 it's critical in a lot of ways. But the soul 135 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:56.680 of America, the flesh and blood of America, our happiness 136 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:00.920 is a nation, our togetherness is a nation. We cannot 137 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.040 continue on the current economic track and expect to have 138 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:07.360 that because there's too much haves and have nots. And 139 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:11.639 that's not have and have nots. And that's not faulting 140 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:13.759 the people who are prospering. I'm sure there are a 141 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:16.639 few knuckleheads in there, but the point isn't to be 142 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:21.199 jealous of the folks who are prospering. The point is 143 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:24.800 we've got to in a purely free market kind of way, 144 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:29.120 we've got to be altering the economic arc so that 145 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.800 the rest of the people have a fair opportunity. And again, 146 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:35.639 the starting point is, you don't blame the folks who 147 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:38.800 are prospering. Now, yeah, a handful of cheaters or criminals 148 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:41.079 or whatever out there, but that doesn't represent the majority. 149 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.160 You're not going to get anywhere, you know, just just resenting, 150 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:49.839 killing off over taxing the job creators. But unless we 151 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.519 have some structural change in America that opens up the 152 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:58.759 path for everybody else, then yeah, that the soul of 153 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.519 America's is going to be shattered. We're not going to 154 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:03.920 have a nation in the truest sense, and we're going 155 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.240 to be undermining ourselves economically. The big problem we have 156 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:10.319 is we've got a left that has a life and 157 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:15.079 death vested interest in keeping most people down economically, and 158 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:17.600 they start with people of color. And they've got to 159 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:21.439 keep people down economically because the data is clear, once 160 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.399 people start to make seventy grand or more, a majority 161 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.560 are going to vote Republican. So the left has to 162 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:29.680 keep people down. So they put all these policies in 163 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:34.320 place designed to keep people down economically. And Trump's trying 164 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:38.799 to do some structural things to blast that and to 165 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:43.320 open things up. You know, picture clogged arteries, right, and 166 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:44.960 you've got to run a balloon in there to open 167 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.240 up the arteries and get that blood flowing. Now, Trump's 168 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.440 trying to make some big time structural change, trying to 169 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.960 clear some arteries out, and there are a few core 170 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:55.759 ways to do that, but there's going to be pain 171 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.000 in the meantime. Have you ever had that done, Ryan, 172 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.840 where somebody runs something India and they use a balloon 173 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:02.440 or something clear out some arteries. 174 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:05.320 Thank god, No, not yet Oka at age fifty. 175 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:06.960 I haven't either. But my guess is there's a little 176 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:08.039 bit of pain associated. 177 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:08.480 Yeah. 178 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:10.080 Yeah, I've heard it from my uncle. Yeah. 179 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:14.600 Yeah, there's gonna be some pain associated with these structural changes. 180 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.799 But the alternative is to just stay on the same track. 181 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.600 And if Trump just paper over it, which you could 182 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.120 have easily done, just papered over it by borrowing more, etc. 183 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.120 But no, I think he's a man on a mission 184 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:29.720 to make some long term change to benefit you know 185 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:33.600 that the working people of America. You know, the folks 186 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.320 who've been deprived of opportunity in America. Yeah, I think 187 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.440 he's on a mission, and I trust him and for me, 188 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:43.240 you know, my own four oh one K and all 189 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.039 that other stuff. Yeah, it's been a real painful week 190 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.399 or two. But I'm willing to endure that pain. And 191 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.200 of course I'm betting. Yeah, you know, I haven't lost 192 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.799 a diamon until I sell right, right. 193 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.000 And let's keep our eyes on the prize here a 194 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:57.159 little bit. Dan it's a marathon, not a sprint. And 195 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.240 Donald Trump has done a good job of coming out 196 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:01.840 of the gate quick the executive orders and trying to 197 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:04.799 pummel Democrats with one issue after the other. But this 198 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:07.120 is going to be a slog. It's a four year run. 199 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.840 It's a two year run that matters before the midterm elections. 200 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:11.960 And he can't be prisoners of the moment. They'll tell 201 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.679 you that too in financial advising as well. Pump the 202 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.279 brakes a little bit. It's not even been two full 203 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.960 months since he's been president. He has a vision, he 204 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:24.080 has a plan, stick to the script, trust the process. 205 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.159 Just write it out. It's going to be fine. That's 206 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:26.600 my advice. 207 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.559 And when we come back, I'll tell you why I 208 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.480 think Trump's right if he is in fact saying that 209 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:35.720 this movement out there now to target Tesla's is a 210 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.679 form of domestic terrorism, and some text somewhat it takes 211 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.000 to have the Republican Party win, and I think the 212 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.960 first one is way off. It says Colorado Republicans need 213 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:48.440 to bend on some issues. Let's take that on because 214 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.440 I think that would be the immediate exit rimp to oblivion. 215 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:53.799 You're on the DAN Capla. 216 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:58.279 Show and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. 217 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:01.440 He said, Look, we're going to have disruption, but we're 218 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.240 okay with that. Is that what you meant the stock 219 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:07.039 market going downs? The disruption? What on the reuption where 220 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:08.639 you were alluding to, Look, what I have to do 221 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:12.639 is build a strong country. You can't really watch the 222 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:14.720 stock market. If you look at China, they have one 223 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:19.120 hundred year perspective. We have a quarter by quarters. That's true, 224 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:21.240 and you can't go by that. You have to do 225 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:24.279 what's right. What we're doing is we're building a tremendous 226 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:28.480 foundation for the future. Tremendous foundation. Yeah, and I trust him. 227 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.080 I have no problem saying that. I think he's earned 228 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.120 that trust, and conceptually I love what he's doing. He's 229 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:39.279 trying to make this kind of structural change. Was I'm 230 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.240 no expert on tariffs. I don't know if this is 231 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.080 the best way to do it. I just know the 232 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:47.519 old way is not working well enough, and anybody who's 233 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:49.720 being honest about it would say that. And we cannot 234 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:52.000 abandon free market. I'm not talking about any of that, 235 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.000 but the old way for the reasons I talked about 236 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.480 before the break in my opinion, is not working even 237 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:01.120 close to well enough. So let's go to the phone lines, 238 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:03.399 get some text and I you know, think about it. 239 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:06.240 Think how much you have to respect this guy because 240 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:09.000 it would have been so easy for him. Right, He's 241 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.840 off to the best start any president we can remember. 242 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:14.600 And then all he has to do on the economic 243 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:18.039 front is doing most other presidents do and just keep 244 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.159 borrowing money, you know, keep it everybody on a sugar high, 245 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:23.840 and then leave it to the next guy or gal 246 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:25.720 down the road to take the beating. But he's not 247 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.080 doing that, and I respect the heck out of him 248 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.960 for that. He really, he really wants to leave a 249 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:37.679 legacy of change, and I believe it very very committed 250 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:40.600 to the working people of America because that's who stands 251 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:43.039 to really benefit. And then we all benefit from that, right, 252 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:47.120 But that's who stands to really benefit. Chris in beautiful 253 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:50.000 Colorado Springs, Colorado, home to one of the great resorts 254 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.679 of the world, which is amazing. Ryan, have you been 255 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:53.279 to the Broad Moor? 256 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:53.840 Oh? 257 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:55.679 Nobod, I've heard all about it. Oh you have got 258 00:12:55.720 --> 00:13:00.320 to go. Okay you and your bride? Hello, Yeah, yeah, 259 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:01.840 you've got I mean, it's just one of the great 260 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:04.600 responds to the world. Chris, you are here. It may 261 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:07.000 not feel like that or seem like that, but you are. 262 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:08.000 Thank you, my friend. 263 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:14.200 Have you been to the Broadkon No? Uh, yeah, they 264 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:19.879 have an intent wine selection at one of the restaurants there. Yeah, 265 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:23.120 I appreciate greatly, pretty good golf course. I was cold 266 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:24.960 to say that. No, I don't think they called him 267 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:29.039 to go wednestate wide election in the street for a while, buzzkill. 268 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:33.679 I mean, you know, you know, when I first got here, 269 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.799 was a guy named Corey who is our state or 270 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.720 you are a senator, and some people seem not to 271 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:41.639 like him to be on the line. You know, I 272 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:43.440 got to spend a lot of time with this guy, 273 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:47.360 Joe O'Day running through the US Senate. Yeah, he seemed 274 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:50.480 like a perfectly good candidate. It's like, really rational guy, 275 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:51.919 so we can get along with. 276 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:57.879 Yeah, Joe daves awesome in every way. But one. 277 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:02.320 Well, you know, okay, you know my wife is austin 278 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:02.840 every day. 279 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:06.480 But one depends on what that one is. If the 280 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.639 one is that she's cheating on you, it's a pretty 281 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.799 big one. And I'm not saying she is. 282 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:15.360 I'm sure she's well, I'm sure that Joe They wasn't 283 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:16.360 cheating on me either. 284 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.200 But Chris, and listen the Joe Day sing. 285 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:25.799 Thisicians, I was. 286 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:29.399 Not suggesting any intimacy. What I was saying, Chris, is 287 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.440 the Joe Day Sing is a great, great example for 288 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.840 us because I like him and I view him. I 289 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:38.480 view him as an A plus candidate in every way 290 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:42.320 but one. But that one is foundational and and it 291 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:44.679 just goes to my point that no matter what your 292 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.840 position may be on what abortion policy should be in 293 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:52.960 Colorado and America, if a Republican nominee for statewide office 294 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:56.759 is pro abortion, they are losing, and they are losing 295 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:00.000 badly because they're going to lose an awful lot of Republicans. 296 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.240 And then there's no way they're going to win pro 297 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.759 abortion votes because if that's somebody's priority, they're going to 298 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.080 vote for the abortion maniacs. They're going to vote for 299 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:11.200 the abortion machine. 300 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:14.240 Well look, man, I mean, I don't know if you're 301 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:17.519 looking around the state that closely thought, you know this 302 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:20.559 is a libertarian state. Most people stay a. 303 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.759 Libertarian whoa, whoa, my brother, my brother. 304 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:26.960 Oh, let's to spare my idea. A whole lot one second, 305 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:29.080 and then you know, and then and then when I 306 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:34.480 was talking people with Vicky Tonkins and she said that 307 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:40.240 Colorado just needs more conservative leadership. Yes, she didn't need 308 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:45.159 more number conservatives, she meant more quality conservatives. Yes, And 309 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.799 that's that's obviously not winning well in the state. 310 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:51.960 But then the question is how do you win? 311 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:52.240 Right? 312 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:55.080 And so what you're suggesting, Chris and and other people 313 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:58.279 have before is that the GOP needs to give up 314 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:01.120 its pro life position and become pro abortion. And what 315 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.480 I'm saying is, oh, okay, then I misread you, Joe 316 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:08.440 O'Day is exhibit A that ain't working, and it's never 317 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:11.799 gonna work, and it shouldn't work. And in terms of 318 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.320 Colorado being libertarian, you know, we could waste time on definitions, 319 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:20.399 but if you're talking at that point about personal freedom, 320 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:22.919 I would agree with you on that in terms of 321 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:26.720 ballot measures, etc. But obviously in our libertarian friends would 322 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:29.759 never suggest this. You're gonna have some lines, right, I mean, 323 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.519 somebody should not have the liberty, for example, to have 324 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:38.320 a slave right rhetorical but okay, But for the same reason, 325 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:42.000 somebody shouldn't have the liberty to take an innocent person's life. 326 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:44.879 And that is a matter of medical fact, is what 327 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.679 abortion does. But here's how Republicans can win. I mean, 328 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:53.919 Republicans can win by making people's lives better while staying 329 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:59.360 true to conservative principles. That's how you win. You don't 330 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:03.360 win by running around with five talking points on these 331 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:06.279 and principles that are so important. You run around by saying, 332 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.880 here's how I'm gonna make your life better, and here's 333 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.319 why it's really gonna work, and here's why it's consistent 334 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:16.799 with these big principles that will let us be better forever. 335 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:22.480 That's how you win. Is there a flaw in that logic? 336 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:23.039 My friend? 337 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:27.680 Well, you know, I haven't seen it happen yet in 338 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:31.279 your state, and you know in a couple other states 339 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:33.680 that might work. You know, I used to live in 340 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.200 Tennessee and that'll work in Tennessee. Is like yourself lives 341 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:42.680 in Chicago and that's not gonna work space, And you 342 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:45.599 gotta you gotta win first, yeah, and then then the 343 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.920 people get to give you the key. Well, we'll give 344 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:50.599 you the kings until you win. 345 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:53.559 Right, But how do you win? And you're a great color, Chris, 346 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:58.000 thank you. How do you win? You win by you 347 00:17:58.039 --> 00:17:59.880 have to have the right candidate, obviously, but then you 348 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.519 have to convince people because it has to be real, improvable. 349 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:06.359 I am going to make your life better in these specific, exciting, 350 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.440 major ways, and here's why and how it's gonna work. 351 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.799 That's how you break through. You're on the Dan. 352 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:21.920 Kaplish you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 353 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:23.920 Did you number the year in that song? 354 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:24.799 Oh? 355 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:29.759 God, seventies, early seventies? Say where were you in the song? Yeah? 356 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:32.319 No, no, That's that's why I mentioned that because I was, 357 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.759 I think early in my CU career. Yeah. Yeah, what 358 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.680 a song man, that's epic. Glad you're here. Three O 359 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.599 three someone three eight two five five the number techs 360 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:49.480 d A N five seven seven three nine. Congratulations to 361 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:52.480 our son Joe. His team won the big semi finals 362 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.920 in their law school moot court competition. Over four hundred 363 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.480 people attending in the courtroom. Really big deal. So it's 364 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:03.640 moot he's been Yeah you got mock trial or say 365 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:06.839 you're simulating a trial, right, and then moot court is 366 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:10.839 where you're simulating an appellate process, a US Supreme Court argument. 367 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.440 So at a school they bring in some circuit court justices, 368 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.119 some appellate court justes at the federal level. And then 369 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.640 you know, there are like tons of teams made up 370 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.279 of law school students who compete and and Joe's privileged 371 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:26.960 being a team that got all the way to the 372 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:30.480 Semis and then then one last night in the Semis 373 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:32.559 against all other really good team. Yeah, just so proud 374 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:35.039 of them because whatever kids are into, right, they're owing 375 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:37.359 the different stuff, but just the work and the work 376 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:42.000 ethic and just working around the clock. And you'll love 377 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:45.359 to see that rewarded with the big victory. So yeah, 378 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:47.599 congrats to them and to all of the kids. I 379 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:49.759 call them kids, some of them probably older than I am. 380 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:52.880 But eight five five four zero five eight two five 381 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.000 five the number text d A N five seven seven 382 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:58.440 three nine. Programming note for tomorrow, we're going to be 383 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:02.839 talking about this study that's out is sports gambling now 384 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:04.839 that we've had a few years to see how it 385 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:10.079 rolls out here pun intended? Is sports gambling undermining Colorado? 386 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:13.920 Is it putting a lot of families on the brink financially? 387 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:16.400 Is it taking a whole lot of money out of 388 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:19.599 the mainstream economy? So and listen, hey, you know, look 389 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:21.759 at my phone right now, I got my MGM app 390 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:24.559 and I do some legal sports betting, small time stuff, 391 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:28.359 but it could be kind of fun, and I happen 392 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.799 to be particularly good at it. Not to brag or anything. 393 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.799 I don't recommend it as a hobby, but but I 394 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:39.720 enjoy it. But yeah, it this study does not surprise me. 395 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.960 Would it surprise you at all? Ryan? If because right now, 396 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.839 I mean, you know, our kids are out of the house, 397 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.079 and I just do small time stuff anyway, But would 398 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:50.400 it surprise you if there were a bunch of you know, 399 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:55.480 young families and everything else where you know, where all 400 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:57.960 of a sudden a bet goes bad and then it's 401 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:00.279