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Enjoy your exploration. Robert. I got to tell you that

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your book is inspirational to those of us that have

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been in the industry for decades. And the reason why

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I say that is because you're upfront and you're very honest,

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and we know as broadcasters you can take the four

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walls of terrestrial radio away from us, but you can't

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destroy the journalist. And your book is proving to those

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of us who are away from terrestrial radio that when

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something does happen, we've got a leader now that we

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can depend on, and that's you. That's you. You lived

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it and you're sharing it.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, that's just the kindest compliment that

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you could possibly give, and I am so appreciative of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, It's.

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Speaker 2: Certainly have been, you know, a baptism by fire over

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these last couple of years trying to learn about the

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world and myself.

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Speaker 3: But I'm really glad that this has resonated with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, you wouldn't trade it in for the world. I

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can feel that in your paragraphs.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean it has totally.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here in Cluven, Ohio right now, in my

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parents' home, and I've just never been more grateful, you know,

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to have people, you know, who love me in my

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life and have time with loved ones and family.

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Speaker 3: And I used to take call that for granted.

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Speaker 2: Just a couple of years ago, and sometimes you got

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to see people lose everything and meet people on their

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worst day in order to truly understand that.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this on a personal level with

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you being up there back in Ohio, because my very

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good friend Ben Ducin has been over there as a

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in Ukraine as a humanitarian, and when he comes home,

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that's my time to really get in and talk to

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him because he's got to readjust I want to know

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what your readjustment period is, because dude, you just don't

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replant yourself. You've got to go in there and regrow yourself.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: We grow is such a good way of putting it,

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and I mean it's it's it's one of those experiences

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that you spent your whole life going through college, you know,

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building yourself up and building into your mind. You know,

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I've got this figured out. I understand the world. And

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then it's one of those moments that really tears you

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down to your baseline and realize and you realize we

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are all mortal human beings. You know, we all have

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a finite amount of time on this planet. And now

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you start to really do those internal audits of okay,

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what is actually important in life? And those are the

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big things that I found, you know, having in these

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you know, two different theaters here is wow, actually the

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most important things. I mean it's it's not accolades, it's

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not followers on Instagram or any the vanity that's out there.

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I mean, it is the people in your life, you know,

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who are family. It is home and those are the

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things that are priceless. And that's that's been my finding.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever just want to look at them when

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you're out there getting the story, you look at them

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and you say, I need your story, or I'm going

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to write a story and I need it from you

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because you've got it and I don't want to have

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to make it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: It is. So many of these people that you meet

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in Ukraine and Israel and Gaza, these are not professional spokespeople,

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Speaker 3: These are people who have probably never spoken to.

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Speaker 2: A journalist in their life, and they're telling their own

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organic story. But what I tell everyone is the world

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actually can look like a very simple place, black and

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white place when you stay.

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Speaker 3: In the forty thousand foot view.

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Speaker 2: But when you look people into their eyes and you

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see the terror and the pain, this all becomes complicated.

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that really paint the real picture of what war does

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to people. You know, And sometimes I think that we

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have a bad habit of keeping wars in the forty

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thousand foot view. It's geopolitics. This is right, this is wrong.

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utterly destroyed by conflict, by armed conflict, and that changes

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Speaker 1: On a personal level. What is it like for you

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to be back here in the States and even the

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slightest sound of a drone that somebody's playing with at

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a nearby park, you you've got to go have your

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PTSD kick in at that moment.

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Speaker 3: There are actually things that I do here. I mean

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one of them is drones.

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couple of hundred bucks. That sound, that mizzing sound, is

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a death sentence for so many people. And so when

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and see people playing with drones, it's like wow.

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Speaker 3: I mean, a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of weeks ago, people were rigging those with explosives

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and using those to destroy tanks and F thirty five

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jets or whatnot.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a different ballgame.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I think that what brings me back

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the most are the simplest of things, and it is

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just time with family, and it is a recognition that

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I can if I'm having a bad day, I can

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leave the conflict zone and I'm two flights one to

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two flights away from Cleveland, Ohio, and I can go

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see my loved ones. There are people who grow up

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in Mariupel and Melitopol, Ukraine who still hold on to

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their last train tickets because those are now occupied towns

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and they can't go home. That is the difference between

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our lives and theirs.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that readers and listeners need to

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understand about your book, Lessons from the Front, is that

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you paint the picture of all people being real people.

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There are no lines inside your book. So therefore I've

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got I'm going to ask you a technical question, and

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if you want to walk away, I understand. But my

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question is is that when you've been to Ukraine, that

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means Ukraine, Russia, Israel means you've also got to think

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about Gaza and now we've got Iran in the picture here.

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I pray for all people, I mean all people, and

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I feel like that you've been on the front and

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you're bringing back that message. This is about all people, people.

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Speaker 2: All people. I would absolutely agree with that. And again

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all this through? Is it a geopolitical lenss Well, that's

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when you could say that there's black and white in

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the world. But when you are looking people in the eyes,

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it's just hard to stand in Gaza and see the

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destruction and see people starving and look at a potato

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as the best thing that they've seen in their entire

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lives and say it should be this way.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Or to stand in kabutsber Ri in southern Israel and

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sand in a fruit of ash, some of it is

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someone's home and some of it is bodily remains and

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say this is good, this is okay. You can't possibly

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do that when you've stood in both of those places.

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War is human. It impacts every people. And that's the

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lens that I try and look at this through.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Robert Sherman coming

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up next, the name of his book, Lessons from the Front.

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We are back with journalist and author Robert Sherman. Robert,

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I want to know how you were able, though, to

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set aside the journalist in you, because you've got real

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Robert speak here. This is not you standing there on

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a camera or with a microphone. This is you sharing

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a story as if I have lived on your block

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for the past twenty five years. I want to know

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how you were able to put away that journalist and

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talk to me as Robert I see what is.

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Speaker 2: Going on in the world today, and there's just such

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a focus on this. I'm right, you are wrong. You know,

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I understand everything kind of situation. And you know the

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reason that I've been able to put away all of

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that is because I really had it ripped away. It's because,

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you know, with my pedigree being a I did well

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in school and I got a couple of a's on

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a couple of papers in Alisi class, and I thought, oh,

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I understand the world. And it takes one day on

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the ground in any of these conflict zones to meet

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people of different communities, to learn about communities that exist

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that you admittedly and ashamedly didn't even know existed until

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when you've when you've had those experiences. So that's my view.

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of you know, not a kid talking about how right

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Speaker 3: But a kid that's like, wow, I just consumed my

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humble pie. Here's what I learned.

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Speaker 1: You know you're going back. There's no way you're going

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to hide that from me, because I watch Ben dou

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scene as well as I watched Jodelensley, who are two

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of my very closest friends in Ukraine. Right now, I

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know you're going back, But how do you tell the

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people of Ohio? I have to. It's not a question

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of do I want to? I have to.

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Speaker 3: And it is always a hard conversation.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I mean everyone in my life here

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in Cleveland, Ohio is saying, well, hopefully that's the last one.

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Speaker 3: And of course it's never the less one's big.

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Speaker 2: The big thing for me is, you know, I just

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now have such a curiosity to the world of why

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is the world the way it is? Why does Russia

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think the way that they do? Why does North Korea

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think the way that they do? And I want the

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American public to be armed with that information as we

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make tough political choices in the United States. That's why

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It's that curiosity that drives me. For people and cultures,

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and you know, the opportunity to share the things that

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I've learned, not necessarily what I know or believe, but

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the things that I've learned and seen along the way

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that I hope have an impact on people.

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Speaker 1: When you have made a presence on that war torn dirt,

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do you see a lequll lenses style person there, because

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you know, Lek came from the ashes of war to

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become a leader of people. I mean, you're right there

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on the front lines. Are you seeing that kind of leadership?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those things in which you

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see it in the most unsuspecting of sorts, right, I mean,

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you see the leadership in the refugee camps in Gaza,

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in which you know, I mean it's like everyday people

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who you know, I mean, their job before the war

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was they had a convenience store, you know, in Rafa,

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charge of distributing aid to people in Gaza. I mean,

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you see, and I think that there's a lesson to

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be learned there. You rise to the occasion and all

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these circumstances. Who circles the wagons in Israel? Who brings

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people together in Ukraine. In many cases, it's not the generals,

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it doesn't matter where you are. You're in North Carolina, Ohio, California, Wyoming,

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occasion in those unsuspecting moments.

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Speaker 1: Is there a side of you that would like to

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to share a real story, and then he honors your book.

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you on a short trip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm very grateful for his support with this whole project

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here and what he wrote, you know, I mean, as

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someone who now says that he believes in journalism again

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for me this book, yes, yeah, I mean my whole

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view is I would love for anyone to come along

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and see this because I hear just so many people

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right wrong, They're indifferent talking about this is the way

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the world is, This is the way it should be,

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so convincing their souls.

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Speaker 3: You know, I went over to.

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Speaker 2: Ukraine, you know, convinced that I had a pretty good

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understanding of the world. And inexplicably, I've said so much

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over the last three to four years, and I have

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more questions than answers than when I began. And you know,

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I mean, that's that's that's what I would like people

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to see for themselves.

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Speaker 3: Is Wow, just how complicated all of this is.

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Speaker 2: It's not RS and D's, it's not black and white,

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very human in nature.

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Speaker 1: When that entire self of you sat down to write

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lessons from the front, who was sitting with you? Because

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there's no way that you've gone through what you did

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and then you have to write this alone. I don't

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believe it, because I believe that something came out of

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you and somebody had to be there to receive it

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the moment it was becoming words on a page.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for me, it's I feel so that

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so much of what I do is for that eighty.

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Speaker 2: Year old version of myself who is sitting there in

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that rock and chair, looking back over past life and

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just wants the reassurance that you know, we gave it

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are all, and we did the most we could, you know,

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with the finite amount of time we have on this planet.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's that's who is there with.

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Speaker 2: Me, is making that eighty year old version of Robert

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proud that maybe he had an impact on some kids somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Who is struggling through his quarter.

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Speaker 2: Life crisis and doesn't know up from down, you know,

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just to give that reassurance. Look, it is okay to

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not know it is okay and not know where your

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life is heading. Because I didn't when I got on

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that plane to Ukraine, and in many cases I still don't,

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you know, but it's okay. And I hope that this

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helps guide young people, are those struggling to find their

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way to some light at the end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you, Robert,

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because this is just the start of a brand new

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beginning for so many people when they get their hands

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on Lessons from the front, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I mean, you can purchase it where most books

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are sold. Amazon is a great starting point. Bloomsbury is

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the publisher, and of course you can always watch us

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on News Nation every day as we've report on those

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stories across the globe that impact Americans everywhere.

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Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in

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the future, dude, because I'm going to put you right

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in there with Ben Doucin as well as Joe Linsley

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because I want to share the story of Ukraine as

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well as Israel, and you being there is so important

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to history.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. And I mean that is

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such a that is such a board of highly distinguished

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people that you've mentioned as well. It'd be in the

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honor to participate in that.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today and be safe. I don't

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want to sound like your damn dad, but be safe.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, my friend. Appreciate it.

