Speaker 1: All start to what you want to presents. Off the
bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, Off the bench with Jacob Hester and se
Bob aber.
Speaker 2: I gotta come off the bench now.
Speaker 1: Here's Jacob Hester and T. Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Yea what heading y'all?
Speaker 3: Welcome in Friday, Danuary seventeenth, twenty twenty five. Maybe through
it another week, guys, Here we go the weekend beginning
in earnest chance a lot of y'all had your weekend
start last night. Who knows what you're feeling like listening
to this this morning, but uh, just remember, man, you
can do anything for three hours, four hours, how long
you gotta be at work today. You can do anything
for that long and you just suck it up, you
go recover, and you get ready to have yourself some
fun for the rest of the weekend.
Speaker 2: Hope everybody's having a great morning.
Speaker 3: Team Jacolandra Taylor all in studio today we got the
the the full crew here on a fantastic day yesterday
afternoon of the Grand Nobody of the Elite Training Academy
and uh Ostner Orthopedic Clinic over there off Burbank, UH
we'll obviously talk about that.
Speaker 4: Jake's involved. It is awesome.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: Again, I'm not paid to say this or anything. I
have no skin in the game, but that place is
pretty incredible. Jake, y'all, y'all did y'all did a y'all
did a great job over there, a mile away from
Melisu's campus.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 3: So what it is is, it's that they have the
they have the training portion of it, which is to
giant outdoor football field to giant indoor field. They're gonna
have all your Little League or NFL flag football soccer,
like all all, all all the U sports and everything.
But then attached to it Ostin and the Andrews Institute
opening up a walking orthopedic clinic, and so like, okay again,
I know it's impossible, I think for me to talk
about this and for y'all to trust that I'm somehow
not getting like some sort of advertising dollars here or something.
I am being completely sincere in that.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: Very it warmed my heart to see this resource in
Baton Rouge because what it is is taking truly professional
level facilities, and I am not exaggerating. In fact, the
physical therapy room feels as if it's better than probably
a lot of college rooms. And I mean the NFL
nowadays may have finally caught up like back in the day,
the NFL used to very famously have pretty bad facilities.
Like when I was playing college football, sometimes we'd have
better facilities than the NFL guys had. This PT room
is the technology. Believe me, as somebody who spent countless
hours in phys therapy, two laborm surgeries, ACL surgery, snap
fhibel over a plate in it. I mean I used
to live in these rooms. The fact that you can
be a literally get a high school or a person
just like getting older, who gets hurt and this is
where you get to recover. It is like truly bringing fire.
Speaker 4: To the people. It's awesome, dude, y'all did a hell
of a job.
Speaker 3: This last me to say that, cause again I don't
want you all think that I'm I don't know, I
know whatever.
Speaker 4: It's impossible for you rug me. It's awesome.
Speaker 3: You go see for yourself and you tell me I'm wrong.
That's allwesome. You did a hell of a job there.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, t Bob. It was a long time,
you know, like you know, any process like that, a
three four year process and putting everything together and making
sure it was done the right way. And that's kind
of why we chose the name Elite, was we wanted
everything to fell e lead, not that we're trying to
only have elite athletes. And so it's been a labor
of love and you know, everybody involves done a fantastic job.
And it was good to see Clyde out there, Clyde
Edwards Eliers, you know, another one of the the owners
with us, yea. And to have that day finally, you know,
once you you kind of build up this thing and
it's finally built and the fields are ready and the
peties where everything's ready to go. It's it was a
good day. It was a great day to see it
all kind of come together. It was very funny though.
Speaker 3: I was kind of laughing because you know, everybody's getting
up there and giving speech as low as you said,
it's been a huge amount of work, I think to
get it to this point, and there's very congratulatory tone.
Speaker 4: I had a lot of speeches and doctor Andrews.
Speaker 3: Gets up there and he's like, okay, we built it,
but uh now we got to start working. Yeah, like
I now now it begins.
Speaker 4: He is very much like, all right, let's go. You
can sink into gear.
Speaker 3: But it's awesome because again for Louisiana, for Paton Rouge,
I love when the city gets stuff that I feel
like other places don't have, right because too far, it
feel too often feels like we're lagging behind. And this
is it's it's amazing. Man, it's amazing. Go check it
out for yourself. Don't don't don't trust me.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: It was my first time in there and I was
was blown away. It's very cool, very cool. Congratulations to
you and the entire team. Let's go ahead to talk
about it, and Mark says it here. Any news on
Colin Hurley, let's go aheading, just get the the Colin
just because it's the heavy it's it's very said, let's
get it done.
Speaker 2: But okay, whatever.
Speaker 3: So Colin Hurley injured in on campus crash at two
forty five am, was found unresponsive. Here's the quote from
the WBRZ unit source to tell the wo's the investigative
union the Colin Hurd charge of crash into a tree
exelf quad driving Highland road near sell Kate to lshu's
campus official says unresponse and breathing. When he was pulled
from the car, he was in and out of consciousness
with a large cut on his face. His family has
released a statement though, and here's a bit of good
news amidst the bad.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 3: Colin would like to thank the first own he's in
stable condition. We now know for a fact he's in
stable condition.
Speaker 2: He's good.
Speaker 4: Quote.
Speaker 3: Colin would like to thank the first responders, the incredible
doctors and nurses, and our lady La Elden, the Mini
Tiger fans for their care and compassion. Colin is resting
stable while more tests and care are being administered. We're
confident Colin to make a full recovery from this terrible accident.
So obviously when you see unresponsive, that's terrifying. Everybody's every
family's worst nightmare, especially because he's.
Speaker 2: From Florida originally where we're.
Speaker 3: Out of state though right he's I think he's from
up north, Okay, but coming around a state, so your kid,
you know, goes all you know, far away where you
can't get to him right away, and then you get
that call. It's it's terrifying. So thank god that he
is in a stable condition. But we will continue to
pray for him, his family and their mental and physical
health as they make it through this. But thank god
he is in stable condition. And as the family said,
thank you to all the first responsors, doctors, nurses, everybody
helping to take care of him and everybody else here.
Speaker 2: It is Florida. He is from Florida. Okay, I think
like Orlando. I read Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: Listen, you know, well, you know the same thing, right,
I don't know, it's probably what they would say about us,
So it feels the same to me till one. That's Disney.
But shout out Colin glad that he's all right.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: Uh, there's no great way to you know, transition in
these situations, So we'll do it by going ahead and
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Speaker 2: If so, the he.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, close enough for t Bob geography exactly
than you see Cognitz exactly. I learned why the Midwest
is the Midwest yesterday, even though it's in the Middle East.
It's because I think we started calling at the Midwest,
people were telling me after the Louisiana purchase, So for
a time it would have been the middle western portion
of the country, even though now it's more akin to
the Middle East.
Speaker 2: But that's not the lead story today.
Speaker 3: The lead store today talking a little New Orleans Saints
coaching search as it continues to develop. And we've got
a couple of juicy nuggets here. First off, in a
movie that you don't see too often, but one that
my initial reaction to was I appreciate this, Cliff Kingsbury
is saying he's holding off on any coaching interviews until
his playoff run is over and he is more on
his plate with the Detroit Lions coming up, and he
doesn't need to be worried about doing interviews.
Speaker 2: And I love this.
Speaker 4: I wish more guys would do this.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I do have to recognize Jake that I think this
is probably a bit of a function that or result
of the fact that he's already been a head coach.
So this is not like if you're a Joe Brady,
Aaron Glenn, whatever, this is your first opportunity, right, you
may feel a lot of pressure to be like, Okay,
they say jump, I kind of have to say how
high here because I'm finally getting to crack at this thing.
Cliff does have a kind of been there, done that.
Maybe that gives him a little more confidence to hold
off here. But can you imagine if you were one
of these coaches, and already coaches are notorious for being
twenty four to seven grinders just in game plan, and
you're prepared for the most important game of your life,
can you imagine also preparing for the most important interview
of your life, the one that's trying to get you
the job that you've trained for your entire adult career.
I mean, it's crazy that we force them to do
both of these things at the same time. So I
really appreciate Kingsbury saying, no, you know what, I'm gonna
wait and I got a lot.
Speaker 2: We're gonna focus on.
Speaker 3: Getting Jayden ready for the Lions, and then we'll see
what happens, and then whenever it's over, then then we
can talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really understand. I guess why there would
be a rush to hire a coach in the NFL process,
because I totally get it. In college transfer portal window
is like open around that time you got to finish
your recruiting class. You're already behind by the time you
get a new job, no matter when you're hired because
of the calendar. But for the NFL, there's nothing that
you would miss, sue you. I mean, your draft prep
is still going to continue, right if you get it
done before say the Senior Bowl, which is coming up
I know, coming up here in a couple of weeks,
but still like you still have some time. Yeah, the
drafts what April twenty five, if there's something around that time,
and so you still have time there. Free agency doesn't
begin until March, and so the calendar allows you to
kind of string it out a little bit more make
sure you get the right guy because the process is
going to be a little bit different. So you know,
maybe if you have a coach that's coaching in the
Super Bowl and you're missing the Senior Bowl, maybe I
get I understand that a little bit because that is
a big week. But outside of that, like if you're
the new Oran Saints, like you can wait a little bit,
like you have still ten days or so really before
if you feel like you want your entire staff now
teams have gone into the Senior Bawl without a head
coach before, they sent their their scouts and they sent
their GM and they've sent personnel. It has happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you still have to do I mean you still
do that for sure. Yeah, I mean, especially if you
have a GM that's going to be there. Yeah, the
head coach could come in and change things up if
the GM allows them to.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like, you know, the head coach and
I still like, I guess we got to skip right. Yeah,
Oh well, guys, and nobody gets to work today, you
know how to Like in the NFL, like the head coaches,
you know, he's going to have a say in the draft,
but it's those scouts. I mean, those scouts and the
area scouts and the lead scouts get paid, you know,
a pretty good amount of money to have their profile,
and the GM turns to them oftentimes, like very rarely
do you see the head coach that's making the draft choice.
Like that's why I liked Sean McVay who kin Nakua
video is so popular, because like he stood on the
table for that draft choice. Yes, like that one is
actually you know, the outlier, it's not the norm. Yeah,
you got.
Speaker 3: Mean something that you could we could probably do a
really deep dive on that is pretty fascinating. Is the
relationship between head coach, GM and owner and who has
power over which and he can be fluid in different
in different situations. I mean obviously, like if you're in
New Orleans, you know you are drafting whatever Mickey Loomis
tells you now. In the past, though, I do know
that that Sean Payton trust was there to where Sean
could make those decisions, even to the point of trading
up and getting rid of vict to get Tommy Stevens
out of some sort of weird pissing match with the
Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: But so, I I'll again the overall point of this
is that.
Speaker 2: That Timeline's fine. Nobody needs to rush. That's okay.
Speaker 3: Let Cliff Kingsbury coach the biggest game of his career
up to this point as an OC and see if
he can potentially make an NFC.
Speaker 2: Championship, and you chase him rings and that's what you
do this all for.
Speaker 3: You got you got a chance hearing what the final
eight is that we're looking at here, right, yeah, yeah,
I mean thirty twenty four other teams already sent home,
and there's gonna be four more after this weekend.
Speaker 2: The coaching search can wait for what it's worth.
Speaker 3: It is still believed that Joe Brady, Kellen Moore, and
Deren Rizzye will probably be interviewed at some point this week.
Speaker 2: And they always find it funny that Rizzy gets an interview.
And I'm not saying you shouldn't get an interview, but
it is funny like he's been he's been your head
coach for yeah a months now.
Speaker 3: Well that's and and that's why it has the feeling
of being maybe not not not performative, going to my bone,
that may be a bit performative, a vestigial.
Speaker 2: Maybe that works.
Speaker 3: Sure, a Vestigel Oregon is like something that has no
use anymore that you've evolved out of. Right, I don't know,
But the point is, if you're an interim guy and
you don't get the job immediately after, you're not gonna
win the interview process. A lot of people that have
to tell the New Orleans Saints no or go elsewhere
for that to end up happening. Also, the Antonio pears
here in with the Raiders not helping any interim guys
that are trying to get interim jobs ready should have gone.
Pasatia set back themselves and they set back interim coaches
quite some time.
Speaker 4: All right, let's do this.
Speaker 3: I got some more nuggets on the coaching search. A
dispute among what Aaron Glenn actually does or does not
want keep a blocked here on off the bench.
Speaker 1: Off the bench.
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Speaker 3: So the Barrett rankings are coming out soon.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You weary, Yeah, I think, And you know, I'm I'm
a natural pessimist and imposter syndrome, and I think, you know,
everything's always going to go bad late, So I'm worried.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm worried about that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm worried about that, right, And it sucks because I
said this chat yesterday, but I think this show is
the best it's ever been with you two on it.
So I don't I won't agree with it. We'll see
what happens. But it may be a ray of sunshine.
Because somebody from Barrett who I like dearly, was texting
me yesterday and talking about a segment that we did recently,
like how funny it was and how much they liked it.
So maybe they're doing a little you know, they might
be doing a little research.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 3: It's like when the principal sits in on your class, like, okay, everybody,
everybody relax.
Speaker 2: Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me
find Is that why you've been wearing sweaters lately? Looking
real nice?
Speaker 3: And no, no, no, I bought remember I bought these
were my good No, I'm saying my big.
Speaker 4: Christmas gifts to myself. I saw this guy.
Speaker 3: I saw this guy in church at the beginning of December,
and he had on this perfectly it's perfect outfit with
a collared shirt underneath his red wholesome Cosby sweater, great pants,
great shoes, great belt, and so don't have the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I saw it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the judge rend hold in the Santa Claus
his sweater games undefeated, it is. But I saw him
and I was leaned over it and I felt like
a slob, and I literally was like, God, I need
some sweaters like that.
Speaker 4: So I bought two him. So I'm just trying to
wear him.
Speaker 2: It's cold, dude. It was great.
Speaker 3: Well, we only got a little bit longer before it's
just no, it's not anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wear I wear it. No, I've never
seen it I wear this in August. Okay, and to
be fair, guys freezing in here, they like.
Speaker 3: The off the wall stuff because I'm gonna sense of
this lace at seven twenty four. But the text was
my pin fifteen doesn't work because of Mickey Loomis is
some of your finest work.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what that means. My pin fourteen
for the rankings, but they're listening a bit list. We
love you, we love you. Also, we've got a great
edition last year. Still good. Uh. I think we were
the only show in Louisiana that was ranked last year
on any Let's go our Afternoon. I think let's go,
Eric Ingram. Are we just going to ignore the hester said,
I've never seen the.
Speaker 3: Santa Claus because it's not a good movie anyway, so
it doesn't matter. I don't so it's not one of
my favorites. I love The Growing Up, you know why
I moved away.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: When I saw it last time, I actually think.
Speaker 2: About I think, actually think about it. Is it that
shocking that I've never seen You've seen a lot of
like the well known.
Speaker 4: I thought the Age would have lined up with you too,
like it.
Speaker 2: It's more of more arin as someone whose favorite Christmas
movie is Die Hard, Like you know what I'm saying?
Like it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I thought maybe, I mean, but you love
Tim Allen. Who doesn't love Tim out? I'm not everybody
loves uh. It's I think it's rigod. I think it's
next year. Also, guys, we are officially getting ready to
do battle with Murphy Sam and Jody Taylor and the
team is hard at work putting together our montage video
to send to other states. How it works as another
state watches it and then they watch all these videos
everybody since then they choose the winner. I vote that
we go off script and in our video it starts
normal montage and then it cuts to us just sitting
here and we're like.
Speaker 2: Hey, A, I know you're gonna vote Murphy Samon. How
about I don't.
Speaker 3: How about you don't just once? Okay, how about you
vote for us, vote for off the bench and see
what happens.
Speaker 2: Maybe not. I don't hate that idea. Let's go. Sometimes
I've been saying I have been saying this like Anchorman style,
like had the news cruise get in the circle and
they got to fight it out. We can do that
at the la b s Yeah, hell yeah, I mean
we probably do have one of the more physically imposed
that I'm saying. Sure I don't. I wouldn't put any
other four against us.
Speaker 3: H Clayton will be back to talking about Chrismus again
after a month and a half of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude,
don't tim me tim me the good time.
Speaker 2: Because I'm so over it.
Speaker 3: Uh all right, we wait, sorry, weren't we supposed to
fight like uh Cole like like you were supposed to
fight Cole.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to fight.
Speaker 3: Brag And I was going to fight one of the
audio producer and then.
Speaker 2: T was gonna fight.
Speaker 3: You fight Damien Damien still there.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but the name Damien sounds like a
very beatable opponent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me talk about Jake to Snake, Robert Snake Damien.
Maybe I'm not sure. I'm not sure. The name doesn't
do it for all right.
Speaker 3: Uh, let's then go ahead and wrap up some of
the other saying coaching news nuggets, because you remember yesterday
a lot of reports coming out that Aaron Glenn saying
that the Jets are his number one choice kind of
with a bullet right, being pretty emphatic. The New York
Post was that have offered the Jets job be taken immediately,
that he'd want it over the New Orleans States, over
anybody else. For what it's worth. Nick Underhill, no one
was on football, refuted this. He said he talked to
close sources close to the situation and that they did
not just deny this, but quote vehemently denied it. So
they were emphatic in their denials, saying that no, that's
bs and.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 3: I'm just giving you the I don't want to say
facts because who knows what's.
Speaker 2: True or not.
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the elements of the story that are
coming to light as they come to light. So maybe
Erin Glynn really does prefer the Jets. Maybe it's more internally,
maybe the gap is closer to the we think. Maybe
he wants to go wherever he'll get the head coaching
job offered to him, maybe first New Orleans. I just
just know that there are conflicting reports about his number
one with a bullet desire for uh to be the
New York jetside coach.
Speaker 2: Here's something interesting as well. I do think you need
somebody to on that point. Yeah, that really wants to
be here, Yeah, because it ain't gonna be easy, no,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you got to get
somebody that's like fully bought in to what it's going
to be. And you know, maybe that is someone who
has been here before, has an affinity for the franchise.
You know, Mike McCarthy being here, was it four seasons
as the offensive coordinator, Joe Brady being here and obviously
starting in New Orleans and then coming to LSU, And
maybe he's got, you know, a love for the area
or something like it's gonna take. In my opinion, something
like that. I don't think as much as I want
Aaron Glenn to be here, I just don't know if
you want somebody that would want to be somewhere else more.
I agree.
Speaker 3: Now it also does work, though, if you have someone
who just like you think about a Sean Payton, right,
Sean Payton was just desperate to prove, yeah, that he
that he could be a great head coach, just absolutely
desperate to show the world that. And I do get
that feeling from Aaron Glenn, and I like the fact
that he was such a key part of the ultimate
turnaround in Detroit when you're talking about creating a turnaround here. Now,
like I said, pros and cons, the Jets have better pieces.
He did play for the Jets, so he's very aware
with the setting. But maybe that's a wash since he
coached here so long. I think a con for New
York would be the ownership very insane, very unstable. Whereas
even if you don't love Mickey Loomis, you know he's
not going anywhere like you know, like you will get
a lot of op here in New Orleans that New
York will most likely not be willing to give.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what ends up happening.
Speaker 3: One of the interest you know, on Mike McCarthy, still
nothing officially scheduled, which is a bit surprising just given
the timeline of how these things work out. As for
what it's worth, Underhill saying that he thought that at
the beginning of this process that McCarthy was the candidate.
He has now downgraded that to a candidate, right, so
maybe not the kind of favorite in the doghouse, like
many people were whispering behind the scenes. And then Clint
Kubiak is getting a second interview for OC in Seattle,
so normally second interview means you're getting hired, So it's.
Speaker 2: He did have one with Cleveland, correct, got that job?
Oh yeah, the tray Tommaryves get elevated from tight ends
coach to offensive coordinator. Yeah, good for Tommy Reeves.
Speaker 3: Man, you get you get jumped up immediately at Notre Dame,
then Alabama. Alabama kind of goes awry, but then you're
still so impressive that you go from what was he
last year quarterback or analyst coach.
Speaker 2: That was tight ends in Cleveland? Dude, Tommy, yeah he
was tight ends even wild.
Speaker 3: Well remember from tight ends to an NFL OC like
Reese must have the goods. You can see maybe now
why Kelly was valued him so much.
Speaker 6: Well, there was talks that people were like, hey, could
Kelly bring him back here as a tight ends coach?
Speaker 2: But was it yesterday? They elevated him day before, two
days ago, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3: So Tom Rae's there, but Clink Cuback getting taken overview.
He's probably going to be the OC in Seattle, and
it just sucks because I really wonder what could have been.
I do feel like Clint got a lot of production
out of very little. I mean squeezed blood from the
stones this year and it couldn't even get the luck
of staying somewhat healthy. So be watching his career with
great interest. Uh but but whatever, it's not like it
is what it is. When you fire that coach, you
have to gird your loins for these sort of stories
to happen because the staff is going to be completely
rem topped about him anyway. So that that's the latest
on the Saints coachy Church, I don't really have. I mean,
for my personal wish list, it's probably still Aaron Glenn.
I probably would Mike McCarthy maybe right behind him, after
talking to Flynn and some perspective, and really it's kind
of trying to accomplish different things. Like you said, Jake,
you want to stability, you try to go the more
safe option. You go kind to try to hit the
home run. And then I'd still probably have Joe Brady
third on that list.
Speaker 2: Look, I those three guys would would be the front
runner for me, and maybe the order changes from day
to day. Yeah, you're right. After talking with Flynn, I'm like, okay,
let's get Mike McCarthy in here. And I started out like,
you know, Mike Aaron Glenn. I think those three guys, actually,
any of the three, if they got hired, I would
I'd be okay, And I think it would be a
solid higher at least from what we know going into it.
So if you know, if those three guys are still
in it, that's a good sign. I guess. Mike Vrabel
is the only one that correct me if I'm wrong,
the only one that has accepted a new job. Correct
all right, So everybody's kind of still available, So it's
not like you know, people are getting snatched away from you.
And I know you still got some coaches in the
playoffs and Ben Johnson, a Cliff Kingsbury and others Aaron
Glenn obviously Joe Brady, so the ones we're talking about,
And actually I think the more that you go down
the road and you don't have a head coach, actually
Mike McCarthy might be kind of getting farther away from
the job. Like if if you continue on, it's almost
like you're waiting an.
Speaker 3: Interview on on on the bookship for McCarthy because he
doesn't have anything, yeah holding him up right now?
Speaker 2: A bit surprising. Well, who is Ben Johnson talking? Now?
I know Tom Brady convinced him to talk to the raiders.
He said no initially, and then apparently Tom Brady reached
out to him and kind of sold him on some
of the b I guess Gardner minshew, maybe I don't know.
Yeah you know.
Speaker 3: Tom calls yeah, you pick you pick, you pick up
and you say yes, sir, Oh, so I'd love to
do that.
Speaker 2: Bears too, your babe, should we should we rank the jobs? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Yes, we're about to get that down right now. Just
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Speaker 3: I'm welcome back.
Speaker 1: I'm the ninth ranked morning sports show in America. Off
the bench.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Nookie who put this on my radar.
I missed this yesterday. It looks like it broke last night.
But the Department of Education says Title nine applies to
revenue sharing. Let me process this in commercial breaks and
and and really get into this. But this is an
answer that I've talked to people for months now, wondering
like what's gonna happen. Nobody knew, So it feels like
the Department of Education finally weighing in. I'll try to
react to instantly what I believe that it means. But
for now, let's go ahead and do what we tease,
and let's rank the available NFL head coaching jobs. Now
that the Patriots are off the board after hiring Mike Frabel, Jake,
what do you have all of our Uh?
Speaker 4: Do you have all the candidates here? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I'm getting them down right now. And all right,
so Patriots is feel like you said, So, we got Jets,
We've got the Jags, We've got the Raiders, We've got
the Cowboys, We've got the Bears, We've got the Saints.
Now I believe that will be all of them.
Speaker 4: Are the Bears the best job? No, Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I think the Jaguars are the best job. Okay, we'll
do explain tey.
Speaker 6: Cause look, Trevor Lawrence has not been good the last
two years. I get that we have seen flat can
thrive under the right coach. They also have a ton
of weapons around him. I mean, they got a young defense.
You got Gabe Davis, Christian Kirk and Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 2: If those three can stay healthy.
Speaker 6: You got two young running backs and Travis Etn and
Tank Biggsby, Like, you got a lot of young beasts
in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: It's not just Lawrence, all right, So anytime I have
this conra, you have all that in Chicago as well,
but with a better defense.
Speaker 6: Well you also have a really winnable division in Jacksonville
as well.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true, AFC. So you got okay. So for
the open jobs, your quarterbacks would be Trevor Lawrence. Raiders
probably drafted quarterback Dak Prescott, Caleb Williams, Saints, I guess
Derek Carr, and then the Jets maybe Aaron Rodgers maybe maybe.
So when you're looking at who you know, the quarterback
is going to be the Jags, the Cowboys, and the Bears.
Speaker 3: Well and and actually the Raiders are probably pretty are
the Raiders picking they're picking high?
Speaker 2: I mean it's like are they second or third? For sure?
It's five or six tough. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So all I'm saying there is I think that's actually
attractive for a head coach because then they maybe get
to come in and choose a guy now something. I mean,
it's really just, you know, according to NFL scouts, really
kind of cam Wartard or Sanders and everybody else. So
maybe then that's not attractive as would be at six.
Speaker 2: But they finished with six. That sucks. That sucks. Yeah,
they were four and thirteen, and so them and and
the Patriots had the same and then and the.
Speaker 6: Jags all three of them were four and four thirteen,
but uh, I guess Raiders got them head.
Speaker 4: To head anyway.
Speaker 3: Okay, So okay, never mind, Then it's six is not
actually going to be that attractive because the resources you'd
have to get up would be massive. So I mean,
Dak Prescott's actually the best quarterback of that bunch without
a doubt.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's just mean, I mean, what are we
talking You're thinking maybe Caleb Williams maybe, but right now,
I think Dak Prescott is the best of the bunch.
Speaker 3: And you're talking to the Cowboys team that. Sure last
year is bad, but for the three years previous you
were the winningest regular season team, so you still should
have some vestiges of talent left there. Yeah, you got
to deal with Jerry Jones whatever, But else you're the
coach of the Cowboys. Yeah, like that comes with a
lot of cachet, uh for what whatever that's worth to you?
I mean, does that mean that is Dallas actually most
attractive job?
Speaker 6: I think I think it's top two three five, stroably
top two because Dak and Parsons alone probably makes that job.
Speaker 2: You have CD locked up a long term. Yeah. Yeah.
If I if I was a candidate and I was
looking at I think the Cowboys and the Bears, Yeah,
would probably be in some order one two for me.
Speaker 4: Well do we care about trying to rank them?
Speaker 2: One two? Here, I'll go Bears one, Cowboys two, Jags, three, Saints, four, Jets, five,
Raiders six. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the I I think I agree. So
the Saints not you know, maybe not the tip top,
but not as bad kind of in the middle as
some of as some of that drunk Yeah.
Speaker 4: Exactly, well kind of.
Speaker 3: I mean, we do have fifty percent of the cap
tied up into five players that really would not have
much of a market, not full blackout on the on
the open market right now?
Speaker 2: Uh like to the Yeah, I do think you sustill
have a better roster though, I mean, the Raiders rosters horrid, But.
Speaker 3: Do they have a I mean, I guess it doesn't
matter if they have a ton of cap space and whatnot,
because what are you going to be able to do
with it, and no team ever built fully through free
agency ever thrives. This free agency always jacks up the
price on people. I think it's hard to fill out
what you actually need. You have to draft more consistently.
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at the teams that wait until
your Today's infil story of the day that you think
right now that that are the best teams. A lot
of their team was built through the draft, and they
added pieces, yeah, a couple here and there through free agency.
They didn't build their team like the Ravens, Yead Derrick
Henry changes your team, but you're, you know, mostly built
through the draft. The Bills kind of the same situation.
You're mostly built through the draft, and you'll add a
piece here, a piece there, like even Kansas City. Like
Kansas City does a really nice job of drafting their
players and they'll add a piece here or there, so
you're right, like, it's not an Eagle, same situation. A
lot of it's been through the draft. Let's add Sakuon Barkley.
So I don't really think there's a team right now
that you could say was built through free agency that
is better than the teams that were built through the
draft and then also supplementing their roster with free agency.
Speaker 3: Mickey, please don't trade it. Come on, use all the
picks that you're allowed.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Lions. Maybe the Lions are like the one
because they got Golf through a trade. They got David
Montgomery obviously from another team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they draft sool, they draft touch and they
drafts Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I tried to find it. There is no
you build.
Speaker 3: It's not like college, where with no cap and way
more players choice from, you really can upgrade basically in
the portal at every position if you go all in
on it. It just doesn't work that there's less there's
less spots available, less players available, and you're always gonna
overpay slightly when it comes to getting a big free agent.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh so there it is.
Speaker 3: One more time, Jake, give the people the rankings of
the open jobs and stands today.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go Bears, Cowboys, Jags, Saints, Jets, Raiders.
Speaker 3: All right, not the worst. That's what my old man
said in conditioning. Look, you don't have to win the sprint.
Just can't be last. Okay, just don't be last.
Speaker 2: More. If you want them, you're probably gonna tire out.
Uh yeah, more OTV coming up next off.
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Speaker 3: Hunt Palmer runs all the LSU content right now. And
Hunt's been doing a.
Speaker 2: Hun Pomber Portal player profile.
Speaker 3: Series and we've been breaking down here on OTV, So
we continue today with a Palmer Portal player profile on
Pieburn as Jack Piburn that if it's been from Florida
is up so uh. Pieburn is six three, two sixty five.
He was a three star recruit coming out of high school.
Ridge committed to Minnesota. We at a very good sen year,
so at the gains of momentum ends up at Florida.
He did not play in twenty twenty two, he reserved
in twenty three, and then last year he became a starter,
but a starter with a very clear and defined role,
which is you are there to stop the run first down,
second down, and then maybe an obvious passing. Now we
take you out for a more adept pass rusher. But
his his role was very clear with last year's Florida.
He ends up with sixty tackles, twenty sols, four temples,
one sack, one pick. He graded PFF graded him over
sixty against the run in every single game over seventy five,
three different times. And then his pass rush is lower
than that because it's not a specialty. For what it's worth,
Hunt does point out that he had six tackling grades
over seventy six, which is superb when you look at
those gradings. What I like about this, Jake, We talked
about this offensively a lot. With the tight ends, right,
you need your pass catches be one of your yackles
as well. This is almost the yackle equivalent of a
defensive end. Where again, like I said, first down, second down,
you need somebody who's gonna be strong at the point
of attack, be able to hold the edge forcings, back inside,
blow up counters, all that sort of stuff. Jack Pieburn
is a very good candidate to do.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you kind of had that last year. I mean,
Swinson was kind of your edge rusher that was gonna
get after the quarterback and Saveon Jones with somebody that
he could get after the quarterback. But he was there
to set the edge. He was there to send everything
back inside because you need that. That's what and this
was what this defense kind of is. So I like
the fact that you went and got a Patrick Payton
somebody that he's going to be the Swinson and now
you've got somebody's going to be a Savion Jones type.
I think that worked really well for you a year ago.
And yeah, I know he wants to be on the
field for more third downs. Well he'll have the chance
to prove that. He'll have the opportunity. Yes, but at
least you know he can do what Savion Jones did.
I'm not even saying he's the player save Beyon Jones,
because I think Savion Jones was pretty underrated here at LSU,
but just kind of that body type and kind of
getting things that he got done on the field. And
so we'll see. Man, he's a player that certainly has
flashed at times. I think he's looking for more consistency
through playing time, and so he will get that opportunity.
He also played some fullback for Florida. Don't let that
be lost in this conversation. Do not let that get
lost in this conversation. Okay, a Florida fullback? How times
have changed?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Say, one of my good friends, Billy Lasco, was a
Florida fullback and he was in San Diego with me.
So you know I can open oh my god, but
I can open the doors to a Florida Gator. Look,
I mean Chris Doring. Yeah, because you know what, we
beat y'all so bad it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 4: Gotta camp movie lost Florida this year.
Speaker 2: Disgusting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a weird spot where it's like
I would almost guarantee that Pieburn's a starter, but I
don't know if he'll be the starting pass rusher, right,
I think he'll definitely start for staking down, like I said,
to set the edge, but it's gonna be you mentioned
Patrick Payton, so Butler's Relford Carpenter, Damien Shanklin. Like you're
gonna throw a lot of guys against the wall, and hey,
whoever can do the best thing in football and get
after the passes that you're gonna be playing on third down,
so love the chips fall.
Speaker 2: Also should be noted Piburn does have.
Speaker 3: A psycho white boy look yeah oh yeah, which I
enjoy three weeks brothers and him. I don't want to
go too far maybe where we're doing with the psycho
white boys, but I do love his look.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right. Tower one of Off the Bench Coming
up in hour two.
Speaker 3: We'll get into the his Title nine decision, as well
as a bold vision for college football off the Bench.