Speaker 1: Clippers fans, Welcome to season three, episode fourteen of Clips
in Dip. We were in the throes of the offseason,
but media day is just around the corner, which is
very exciting. Thank you for hanging out with us. I
am Chuck Buckler, joined us always by Adam Oslin and
Will Updike. Got a lot of good stuff to talk
about today. We're talking Norm Powell and kind of his
role on the team, some season stat leader outlooks. There
was some leaks both jersey and court and shorts, and
we had some ex Clippers news, both both bittersweet and
sweet that we're going to talk about. Before we get
into that, Adam, will I trust you guys are doing well.
Adam was putting in that work on the Live with
Justin Mussau earlier. We are recording this the day that
shohe O Tani joined the fifty to fifty Club, which,
if you're not is the club. He is the club.
It's a very lonely clubhouse. I don't know what color
the jacket is, but he's the only one wearing it.
Fifty home rounds, fifty stolen bases. Before we get into
the Clipper centric stuff, Adam and will what would the
basketball version of the fifty to fifty club b? I'm like,
this is a good question, the same.
Speaker 2: It's Chamberlain, Yeah, fifty points. What how many guys have
a fifty to forty ninety season? Is it like five
to seven? Somewhere in that range.
Speaker 1: I think maybe birds.
Speaker 2: Done it twice, Maybe Steve nash Dirk.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of eleven players.
Speaker 2: Eleven. Well, that's not good enough then too, guys have
done it.
Speaker 1: We need something that only one person is done.
Speaker 2: It might be the triple double record. Actually, it might
be averaging a triple double for a season, since that's
happened three times, rustage wise, Oscar Don once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. But people have already done it though. Yeah,
So like it has to be something like what if
Kawhi happened? I mean this.
Speaker 2: Steph had like for three one year.
Speaker 1: I feel like Kawhi, like yeah, like over a season.
I think it would have to be something defensive and offensive.
So it would have to be like a center who's
putting up like thirty points and like twelve blocks a
game or something like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, will average fifty to twenty five or something
one season?
Speaker 1: Right, supposedly.
Speaker 2: No video, no video bro at thirty more possessions to
accumulate stats. It's a little bit different in the modern era.
I mean, I think O'tan's the greatest player ever. He
hasn't been to the playoffs yet, Like I've been saying
for years, he's got tany Babe Ruth, who's playing during
segregation is a totally different league. Now, you can't compare this.
I don't know. I don't know what it would be.
It's it's tough to say it is. I guess you
find fifty fifty, fifty to fifty, like in a game
or for a season.
Speaker 1: I mean fifty to fifty in a game.
Speaker 3: I think fifty to fifty in a game.
Speaker 2: Has Will done it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Will is one of the
greatest athletes of all time. I don't trust any of
those stats.
Speaker 2: They're a little Paul Bunyan esque.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, Paul Bunyan another great athlete, But I don't
trust any of his stats either.
Speaker 3: What about Blue though, the big Blue wats.
Speaker 1: Blue Blue was doing? Is it blue or is it
Babe Babe?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: I think it's Babe Bay Blue.
Speaker 2: Wats I got you, babe, Yeah, this sounds right.
Speaker 1: It is Paul Bunyan and Babe the Big all right.
Speaker 3: So I do trust Babe stats though, like they did
tramp around and make the thousand lakes like that that happened.
I think, well, I know, because the lakes are there
and they're all the same.
Speaker 1: I think what was right? I think fifty points fifty
boards in this era.
Speaker 3: I think the fifty boards is like, that's that's impossible.
That sounds impossible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd have to grab every board.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be a lot of misses too, like.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you're playing, Like, yeah, you're playing. Also, probably
the worst team everred.
Speaker 2: It would probably involve like twenty offensive rebounds, which means
he could be inflating his own stats by missing some
bunnies and then eventually getting it to go type thing.
Speaker 3: You know, once I got to third on the quest
of fifty, how can you knock it?
Speaker 1: You know, halfway through the fourth I'm at thirty five boards.
I'm just standing under the basket.
Speaker 2: What about just one hundred and one points in the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Russ's twenty twenty twenty two is pretty
damn close.
Speaker 2: Hey, what about Zoo's thirty forty nine. What's up?
Speaker 3: That's true?
Speaker 1: All right, So Zoo could do it this year, is
what we're saying. Zoo could join the NVA version of
the fifty Club. I don't know, hats off to show. Hey,
Otani just an incredible feat.
Speaker 2: Now, he came into today at forty nine, forty eight
stolen bases to home runs, and he leaves at fifty
one fifty one while going six for six with three.
Speaker 1: Home runs Ken Ribs. It's so absurd, it's crazy. All right,
let's talk. Let's talk Clippers basketball, because that's what we're
here to do. The lob, the jam, the pod Our
sister Pod was tweeting about, you know, basically the kind
of the Norm Pwell, I don't want to say conundrum,
but like a enigma of where he fits on this team.
They had a tweet that was funny, that was like, rationally,
you know, it's gonna be funny putting Norm in so
many trade machine scenarios, but then realizing that he is
so important to what the Clippers need to do offensive
I mean.
Speaker 3: Don't we do this every year and then inevitably someone
goes down and it's like, oh, thank god, we didn't
trade this guy who was in every single trade machine
screenshot we got sent over the offseason. Like, I just
I think, like right now, obviously, I mean with how
soon camp is, I like, nothing is going to happen,
and that's the right move. You know, We'll have to
look and see. Are there some other people? Are we
a little guard heavy?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I can see all of that, but you do still
have to make up for twenty four points, and Norm
is one of the guys that can help you do
that giving up a lot on the other end. But yeah,
I think until unless someone really breaks out as a scorer,
and even honestly, it has to be more than one.
I'm looking at like three guys, one guy who hasn't
played any minutes with the team competitively, and then Zoom
and man would have to like really kind of break
out offensively, I think to make him fully expendable, unless
you had some sort of guarantee that everyone is gonna
be healthy all season, which if you got.
Speaker 1: That, wait, I'm pretty good, send that over to us.
If you got mailed to Garrett.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. It can be a it can be
a fact, it can be a copy, it can be actually,
it could just be a picture on your phone. I'm
cool with that.
Speaker 1: And we also added another guard, which is funny. Alandas
Williams got added to the to the training camp. But
because it's like offensively, he's like the fourth most important
player on the team, I guess he's one of the
few proven guys you can't sag off of. Like I
didn't mean that's no thumbs down if you're watching, like
he's one of the proven guys that you can't sag
off of. We don't know about Derek Jones Junior. They're
gonna make Terrence Mann earn all those threes too, Like
in the pick and roll.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now, we don't need to see
if there's no way that there's no Junior is near
the shooter that Norm right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just made in terms of gravity like on
the floor, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Norm literally shot ten better from during the regular season
last year it was forty four to thirty four. I
mean he was an elite EF fishing player from the outside.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's just it's so funny in this context
of like, Okay, so we're a defensive minded team, but
people are gonna like because this is gonna be the
guy that every year there's a guy that Clippers fans
are split on.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I get it. I mean he is
like he is an asset. You know, the contract is
right there in what you need to sort of make
up money to get something back of value if you're
looking for, you know, like a role player type of
type of guy, which I assume that's that's what the
trade the trade would be for. But yeah, like I
just feel like we've been doing this every year.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. I'm baffled that people think this
is something new and fresh. It's like we talked about
this all throughout last offseason. Is Norm the guy that
gets moved? And then once the Powell Raiders happened, we
were like, damn, good thing they haven't moved Norm. I
guess he wasn't expendable at all. Now, to me, the
one way he could become or find himself on the
trading block would be and this is I think a
long shot at this point, if Kevin Porter Junior was
first of all available and not suspended, and then second
of all showing some of that ability that he had
with the Houston Rockets where he averaged nineteen points per
game and was doing so. Now on maybe an a
winning team that's actually trying to, you know, make the
playoffs and play for something, then you can start talking
about it. Until then, to me, I just don't see
how you can move Norm Powell unless you move him
for more of a position of need.
Speaker 3: I guess I was gonna say if the right wing
came If the right wing came along, I like that
would make a little bit more sense to me. But
again it's not happening coming into training camp, and it's
still very much like TVD on what that move is.
Speaker 1: And it depends on how the Clippers look too. Right,
if the Clippers are just for some reason just bad,
I could maybe see them moving in because like, hey
we can maybe get younger four or something like that,
Like the season isn't going how we wanted to. But
if the Clippers are playing well, he's gonna be a
big reason for that. He's gonna be coming off the bench.
And again there's James harden Kawhi Leonard, Norm Powell. The
three guys who can just put up thirty points just
you know, randomly, they're their ability. Those are the three
guys on the team. No other guys are really bringing
that offensive spark that we need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not on any sort of consistent basis. I mean
we talk about this again every season, like Norm can
walk into twenty, Like you know, it's like it's not
even like that big it's not even a feat.
Speaker 2: I think he's had three years averaging nineteen or twenty
points per game. This is this is old hat for him.
This is something he's very comfortable doing. Last season, The
only reason is scoring was down I think to fourteen
is because we had so many scores with Paul George,
James Hard and Kawhi Leonard. He wasn't having or getting
as many shots off.
Speaker 1: And the defensive stuff too.
Speaker 3: He and that is another thing that that hampers a
trade to a certain degree. It's like he is such
a specific piece, you know, like the team that's taking
a trade for him is a team that really needs
a great backup scorer. Yeah, which you know, you know,
it's just not it's not like it's not the same
sort of value proposition as sort of a plug and
play wing or.
Speaker 1: Something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even in the way he scores, his shot profile
is very unique and specific. It's not like he's a
great individual get into his bag, go one on one.
He's a catch and shoot guy. He attacks closeouts, he's
he gets to the free throw line. Now, he did
have forty points in a game where they didn't have
Kawhi or Paul George and Phoenix. You could say was
loading up to try to stop him. They couldn't in
that playoff game. I think it was game three and
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: But when he gets downhill, I mean, like, there's not
a whole lot, it's a foul or a bucket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're getting a point out of it
at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't like. I think most teams, even
bad ones, would still view him as playing a lot
off ball because he's not a playmaker. He can't really
create for others and be very successful that way.
Speaker 3: He could, I feel like he could.
Speaker 2: He does passings pretty bad.
Speaker 3: He doesn't, but I feel like he could.
Speaker 2: He probably should. He's thirty one, Like, I don't know
how he hasn't gotten better in that area, to be honest,
Why is he such a bad passer? Like he gets vision?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Why is Paul Jeorine such a bad passer?
Speaker 2: Paul is at least he has the ball in his
hands all the time. Like he has great passes too.
It's just it's up and down. Norman's just he has
a pass.
Speaker 3: Like No, that's what I'm saying. I feel like he could,
but he does not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not. He's not what he's like a less
He's like a less dynamic Lou Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a play finisher, he's not a connector. Uh.
He should be a better defender too. Honestly, he was
good last year.
Speaker 1: Better some free safety stuff that I liked from Norm,
and he challenged at the rim a couple of times,
which is very surprising.
Speaker 3: He's stout, I mean, you know, like, but he should
be better.
Speaker 2: Ball from coming over from Toronto. What I saw during
their playoff run, I felt like, I don't know if
he picked up some bad habits playing in Portland where
they weren't playing a defense next to CJ, next to Dame.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, god, what a what a bad defensive?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't win with that.
Speaker 1: And now he has Chris done next one in terms
of the second unit right like it's done in Norm
in that backcourt. Pretty sick ass, you know, second string
backcourt to have their Norm did play seventy two of
his minutes at the two last year, twenty four percent
of his minutes at the three, which I hope that
percentage goes down because.
Speaker 3: We're gonna see three guard lineups, you guys, just I
know we are, but twenty four a lot, you know
we're going to I don't want to though, of course
no one does. But like, what do you want.
Speaker 1: To him to just stick at the two and they
can put another guard at the three. He just can't
guard three.
Speaker 2: I wonder, like, you know how they categorize that, and
if some of that was in the Powell Rangers lineup
where they were counting Paul George's the two at times
and Norman three. Maybe I don't know. That's interesting. Twenty
four percent not nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh it's Paul George's fault.
Speaker 2: Well when in doubt. No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, because he's played I mean for his career.
He's played almost a third of his career at the three,
which is pretty crazy. He's got he does have long arms.
But yeah, this is gonna be the guy who people
are like, I think he's gonna be and he shouldn't
be this I think he's gonna be a quasi scapegoat
for the clip for the Clippers. I think the Clippers
are doing poorly. People are gonna look at his they're
gonna look at the list of salaries, and they're gonna
say he's the fourth highest paid player on the team, Like,
why don't we move him for someone who does more stuff?
And it's like, that's a very base argument, I think,
And I don't think we need him. We need his
offense so bad.
Speaker 2: With the way the cap has gone up, and he's
taken up about ten percent of the salary cap.
Speaker 1: He's been twenty million this year and then twenty the
next year. Just for context, sorry, just.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, and he's finished top five the last two years.
He was fourth in six Man of the Year voting
and that and really could have been higher. H Yeah,
he has been. I think it was the highest scoring
player off the bench last year. He's one of the
most efficient scorers in the league. There is a lot
of value there.
Speaker 1: And if it was clutch, his numbers in the fourth
were really, yeah, fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Yes, they were, Oh my god. Yeah, he was unbelievable
last five minutes of a game within five points. So
we overlooked him coming into last season and how valuable
he could be, and we're right back here again this offseason.
Apparently with some people.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I'm looking forward to Norm's season. I think
he's gonna be it's gonna be more of the same,
right Like, I don't mean that in a bad way,
like it's gonna be efficient from the three. I like
him next to the Done pairing. I think whoever is
at the three and the four on I mean having
Batoma out there too, Like he's in the lineup if
you just look straight bench, if you have Chris Done,
Nick Patuma out there and Norms at the two, like
you got, he has some help, right like you can.
In the playoffs, he's definitely gonna be targeted. But in
the regular season, which is where the Clippers need to
take things more seriously, as we've learned, it'll be used
to have those two other guys around him. As far
as who's at the three and who's at the five.
Speaker 3: No idea would you do because I'm assuming that the
people who want to see this, I'm assuming this trade
is like high up in there, uh, Norm plus salary
filler for Collins. I have no idea. Why the Jazz
would do this, They already have this guy, like I
have no idea. It makes zero sense for them to
do it as a team. It's the same amount of years.
It's about six or seven million dollars less per year.
Uh So if they wanted to, if they wanted to
get off of that, they could, they could, They could
get off some salary.
Speaker 1: It was like Norman Tucker for like Collins and Filler.
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, but then like Derek Jones,
juniors off the bench, like we'd start Collins.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I think Man might come off the bench before Derek Jenales.
Speaker 1: If I if, dude, if I were Terrence Man and
they make a trade where I'm now coming off the bench,
there's no way in the world I'm resigning with this team.
Talk about gets talk about getting your fucking Chaine yanked.
That's fair, dude. I'd be like, hell no, you made
me play every position sometimes in a week, and now
I'm on the bench like here. That trade idea, though,
if anyone sends us that trade idea, credit will because
we are going to get that trade idea at some
point for you.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I just I know it's the same.
It's like it's the Van Diagram is like a huge
fucking circle of the people who every year want on
Collins and the people who every year want to trade more.
Speaker 2: I think we got that exact question with Justin Russ
so early regarding John Collins for Norm and PJ. Tucker
and well I have to take a salary either and
some thing else. Yeah, they weren't specific about that, but
the only thing because from Utah's point of view, John
Collins can opt out after this season of that, and
he might because he's young enough where he can get
a big deal entering free agency at the age of
twenty eight, or he's owed twenty six million if he
opts into it, or he could probably make ninety million
one hundred million by opting out if it's less per year.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was gonna say, you go for more years,
I think for sure.
Speaker 2: So they might be counting on him opting out after
this year if they don't like him, whereas Norm he's
locked in. He's an unrestricted free agent in the summer
of twenty twenty six. So I don't know what's the
appeal for Utah here, Like, well.
Speaker 3: No I mean I did give that caveat. No. No,
there's absolutely no reason for Utah to do this, and
you already have love, Like, why do you need it?
Why would you have Norm?
Speaker 1: What if? Yeah? What if they have special plans for
Pjack with Clarkson and Norm?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Like, man, you talk about fun offensive highlights as you're
losing by thirty points. It's crazy that Collins. Collins has
like the Zoo trajectory. He's twenty six and he's played
six seven seasons, like he's been in the league for
a minute.
Speaker 2: Who do you guys think could take the place of
Paul George in a new Powell Rangers lineup? So we're
talking like turn the ball over a couple of times,
Norman Powell, why Zoo Bots? And who's the guy he.
Speaker 3: Could do it? We've already seen it in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Wait, so okay, so Harden, Norm Kawhi Zoo.
Speaker 2: Who's who's the fifth guy to replace Paul? Is it Batom?
Because Batomb closing is great?
Speaker 1: But I think it's dude. I think it might be
Derek Joe because we need some athleticism in that lineup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it might depend on how he's shooting,
like yeah, if he's hitting threes still, hell yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Like, that's why I like the
Derek Jones thing like his his, the Derek Jones junior
outside shooting is like one of the more if important
storylines for the Clippers starting lineup for sure, Jones, what
if it's Mobamba, Dude, if we're running Mobama and Zoo
at the same time, count me in.
Speaker 3: The three point going.
Speaker 2: Really well, the only thing is I just saw Wato
lock up s g A at times this summer. I think, yeah, like,
I think it's I think it's there's just too much
trust there. But that's a lineup that can go for minutes. Maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a short stint lineup. It's a we're winning
by a bunch and we put it in, or we're
losing by a bunch and we put it in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah when a game is tight.
Speaker 2: Or it's just a late game crush time line up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because again, the other part two is decision making.
Everyone on that lineup, for the most part, universally makes
good decisions most of the time. So I think that's
where Nico gets the edge too.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean because he's such a great connector, like totally.
You know, his offense, his offensive game isn't like like
like super varied, but like what he can do as
a passer and stuff I think helps quick.
Speaker 1: Fire threes, great passing, good screen setter. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: And if Man's not the guy, I don't know if
DJJ is going to be the guy. It's as long
as Nico isn't you know, gas from playing too much
earlier as their age thirty six. But he looked great
this summer, that is true.
Speaker 1: How many minutes is Nico gonna play?
Speaker 3: Feels better than he's ever felt.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, coming into camp, best shape of his life.
Speaker 3: He was at twenty to do and started doing yoga.
Speaker 1: How many old player? He was at twenty six minutes
a game for the seventy six ers.
Speaker 3: Twenty six Yeah.
Speaker 2: After what was he at with the Clippers twenty one
uh eight games or.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was it was in twenty twenty two, twenty
twenty three it was twenty two minutes per game, and
then the three games in twenty three twenty four it
was eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, because I was going to say,
that's probably what he's around this year. I would guess
it's like eighteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't really have I known who can go
like other than him at the four, which is an issue.
So I think it. Yeah, eighteen to twenty one is
probably what I'm we like need.
Speaker 4: That, they do need that especially maybe it's maybe it's
faux bomb this season, you know, is.
Speaker 1: This your new agenda? Are you? Are you?
Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong with me.
Speaker 1: It's the off season, bro, We're all losing our minds.
Mobama's playing the four year shoot.
Speaker 3: What are you shooting thirty percent from three on attempts?
I'm talking on attempts.
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean, I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 3: Adam Adam doesn't believe in it.
Speaker 2: It's a thirty six percent career three point shooter.
Speaker 1: It could happen right there.
Speaker 2: But I just I worry about honestly, I worry about
the other stuff with Mobamba before I worry about the
three point shooting.
Speaker 1: It's the best part of his game, literally, which is
so real. So it's I saw someone on Twitter was
talking about how there's kind of like a dearth of
serviceable NBA centers right now, like a lot of teams.
It's like you have one guy and then your backup
is like kind of shitty, like there's no like just
okay backups.
Speaker 2: That's why when everybody's complain about Clippers backups, it's like,
who has these great backup centers? Who are these teams?
Tell me?
Speaker 1: And I think I think Mobama is a perfect encapsulation
of maybe why that is is because or like an example,
because you have a guy who fifteen years ago would
probably be in terms of how he was coached crazy
shot blocker post moves, you know, like because he's athletic,
he has good footwork, but he's only good at shooting threes,
like that's his only consistent thing. So it's like he's
the poster guy for like maybe that's why centers are
bad right now, because you get a kid who's like
six ten or whatever in high school and you're like, dude,
you should shoot threes, and then he can't do anything
you actually need a center to do in the NBA.
I understand I sound old right now. I'm not against
shooting bigs, but like if he's a guy who should
be blocking shots, like maybe have some kind of go
to post move, but he does neither of those.
Speaker 3: Too much time on softball field or.
Speaker 1: Game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, finish block shots and dunk that is what is required,
and play some defense.
Speaker 3: What's pent within three feet?
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up right now. Field goal percentage by
distance zero to three feet sixty one percent last year.
Speaker 2: So that's not great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, well well below average.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty nine percent from three last year. Like what
it's like, He's the perfect encapsulation of why the centers,
why there's like starters and then like maybe we'll just
run a power forward at the five, Like that's what
it feels like in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, it's these guys.
Speaker 3: I think all you need, though, is one good one
like truly.
Speaker 1: That you play. So hopefully Zoo gets more minutes. Yeah,
because that's the other part of it too.
Speaker 2: I asked law over under. I asked law Murray over
under on twenty nine minutes for Zoo, and he thinks
it's under.
Speaker 3: He's slamming that under.
Speaker 1: I mean he's not wrong, he's no, it's unfortunately, he's
probably right.
Speaker 2: Well, so two years ago he was at twenty eight
point six. I think last year he was just at
twenty six. There was has to go up, right.
Speaker 3: There was the injury though, yeah, I don't There was
the injury and he didn't look the same.
Speaker 2: But I think even if you look at the first
couple of months, like, he's not he's not it close
to thirty minutes, Like regardless of the injury, what were what.
Speaker 3: What about that first stint when heart like when heart,
when we stopped losing games? Actually no, we were still
losing games.
Speaker 1: He was putting up good.
Speaker 3: Numbers with Harden.
Speaker 2: Okay, in November he was at twenty six point nine minutes.
In December he's at twenty eight point one. January twenty
eight point one, and then he got hurt.
Speaker 3: What did I say? What did I just say?
Speaker 2: That's not thirty minutes? That's right, He's got to be.
He's gotta be at thirty. I don't care if it's
twenty nine on the dot or twenty one nine point one, Like,
it's got to be close. It's gotta be more than
he's ever average. It has to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to be kissing thirty. He's got to
be kissing thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Does that mean we need to be worse with our
small ball for visus Zoubas to get more minutes?
Speaker 1: Et center. No, because we'll still run the small wall.
We ran three guard lines with Luke Canard, John wall
and who was the third guard.
Speaker 2: In that, Reggie and Reggie a lot at the beginning.
Coach lu did admit it didn't work. Eventually.
Speaker 1: Eventually is the key word, though. That's what bothers me about.
Speaker 2: It seemed like he had a lot of mouths to
feed or he had to appease certain years. Yes, I
think because they brought in John Waller, like, we gotta
make this work, but we also got to get these
two guys going still.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. There was a Rico Heines video
that came out, I think yesterday or today, and I
was like, oh, I'm gonna watch this run and the
first name listen on who was there was John wall
And I was like, I don't need to watch this one.
I don't. I do not care about a requise from
that John Wallas. I don't. I don't any waste my
time with this. All right, I'm sure yeah, he was
killing it all right? Coming up? Let us know on
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Coming up, we're gonna take a quick break and talk
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and Jersey leak talk coming up in three two one.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in. We just talked about how
essential Norm is gonna be no matter how many trade
machine screenshots.
Speaker 1: You say, your machines screenshots you send us like that.
Speaker 3: But I mean we kind of started diving into it
about what minutes distribution could look like. So we're gonna
take a look at the season leaders here in a
few different categories, but let's just kick it off with minutes.
Last year's leaders were Kawaian Harden at thirty four point three.
They were both even.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty much exactly the same.
Speaker 3: Wow, love it. So I'm thinking the same one.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm thinking it's probably gonna be the same next year.
I think they're Adam.
Speaker 3: Do you disagree? You would you rather see less minutes
more games or more minutes less games?
Speaker 2: I feel like I could be talked to it to both. Honestly,
I could see a situation they try to play them
less they're older, or because no Paul George, they have
to play them more in the games that Kawi is available,
maybe he plays more minutes. I don't know, there's gonna
be less. I mean they had some blowouts during those
thirty one games where they went twenty six and five,
where they could prest guys in the fourth quarter. I
don't expect as many of this season.
Speaker 1: And that was the most minutes per game Kawai has
ever played, is it? Yeah? Wow, thirty four point three,
I mean by like a smidge like twenty last year
was thirty four point three, twenty twenty one was thirty
four point one, eighteen nineteen was thirty four point zero.
You can see some year breaks in those those you
know what I mean, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'll go under if I have to guess under thirty
four point three honestly.
Speaker 1: But those two dudes I think are probably leading the
team in minutes. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't see anyone.
Speaker 2: I mean total minutes, average minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah average average, yeah, not total. And Adam's
Wildest Dream Zoo would be number two on this list,
which I can't argue with, Uh, thirty minutes, yeah or
thirty three, I guess yeah, because like, yeah, leading the
team next year is probably thirty three.
Speaker 2: Well, if we won a fifty to fifty game, I'm
gonna need about forty three.
Speaker 1: Because I also think last year there was an emphasis
on the whole sixty five game rule thing. It felt
like not just the Clippers were making a point to
be like, we can do this if we want to, dickheads,
you made it to sixty five game rule, you know
what I mean? Like, I feel like there was kind
of like some because then after that Ku I just
stopped playing. How many games did he missed? Then? Like
he was just done? Yeah, will do you think there's
gonna be a wild card in minutes in the minutes later?
And do you think it's I.
Speaker 3: Mean, well, like in total minutes played, I think that
I think that Zoo is definitely an interesting one. You know,
again still TVD, like we're still speculating so much that
his role was finally going to grow into something else,
and you know we haven't. We haven't seen any real
evidence of that.
Speaker 1: He was nice. He was six last year in total minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that checks crazy.
Speaker 1: PG, Harden, Kawhi, Norm Terrence, then Zoo.
Speaker 2: Damn like Will said, though he was out three weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Next category points, I think this
one last year Kawhi twenty three point six, Paul George
twenty two point six.
Speaker 3: I think Harden is gonna have to be the leader
in this one.
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I mean the defensive responsibility for Kawhi, Like
Harden has more he can create on his little more
like the PG.
Speaker 3: I think like last last year was his lowest his
tenure with the Clippers. That was like his lowest scoring.
That was his lowest scoring per game average since like
the OKC days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you guys think he's gonna outscore or Kawhi
and points per game next.
Speaker 1: Season, not by like a mountain but I could see it.
There's a path.
Speaker 3: I think it depends on availabilities.
Speaker 1: I think there's a path to it. He takes more threes,
you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2: I think Kaw's got to take more shots, like they
both do.
Speaker 1: I'm here for that too, Like Kawhi's.
Speaker 2: Gotta take twenty shots per game.
Speaker 3: And also, I mean, I guess we're talking per game,
but I am. I'm also assuming Harden plays more games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, I just per game. I
need Kawhi getting twenty five plus, like twenty five minimum.
Speaker 3: That's it, and I don't know it will be at
twenty six.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I guess it is our year.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely our year. I could just see the path
for it, you know what I mean. If he has
a statistically wonderful three point shooting year and stuff like that,
he's available. Like, I think it's there. And again not
blowing Kawhi out of the water, right because last year
that difference between one and two scorers was literally one
point between Kawhi and PG, So I think they'll be close.
I don't think it's crazy to think Harden could do it.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I'm looking at Harden was that eleven
shots per game last season, Kawhi was at seventeen. I
don't know if it's going to play definitely enough for
hard to take enough shots.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. That's a great point.
Speaker 3: And taking that much more, like more than seventeen though.
Speaker 2: He better, he would the most he has taken in
seasons nineteen point nine and that was his first as
a Clipper, and I think that's probably where he needs
to be. And Paul George was missing a lot that season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good call.
Speaker 3: He was out the first what sixteen games something like that. Yeah,
it was a bit, yeah, because the shoulder and double shoulder,
the double shoulder.
Speaker 1: But the classic double labroom redo. Okay, that will be interesting. Yeah,
Like what, so Kawhi gets the twenty field goal attempts
per game, that's three more than last year.
Speaker 2: Had hardened like fifteen or sixteen, that's my five.
Speaker 1: Or six more than last year. Yeah. A couple of
those are threes. Oh yeah, it seems like mathematically Harden
has a shot.
Speaker 2: Darryl told me so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then this one assists.
Speaker 2: Not Clipper Daryl, Darryl Moorey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured this one assists last year, James Harden
eight and a half, Russ four and a half. Who's
the second place assists guy on the Clippers next year?
First obviously Mobimba. Who is going to be behind James
Harden for the second most assists per game?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess why, honestly, Oh, because it's only gonna
be like four, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the second with four and a half.
Speaker 2: So it's gotta be someone playing a lot of minutes.
Big Zoo turns into mini yoke.
Speaker 3: Christ Paikic, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: For assists per game from Chrisdain, I can see it
that would be second place probably, Yeah, I can see it.
I don't think any betting places should let you bet
on who's going to get second place and assist per
game for the Clippers, but if they exist, that would
maybe go Christa.
Speaker 2: Let's remember I mean PJ. Tucker was a very willing
faster last season. He didn't want to take a lot
of those threes, So maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean Chris Dunn averages for his career four point
two assists per game last year he was at four.
Speaker 3: What's I mean, what's Terrence's ceiling assist wise? Do you
think he could get to four a game. Highest season
was a shade under three.
Speaker 1: Kissing three.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think if Kai takes more shots, I mean, obviously
Harden's gonna get some of those two. But I think
Terrence that's yeah, I like that idea.
Speaker 3: If the if the benchmark is four, you know, yeah,
I think four doesn't seem that crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Four doesn't seem.
Speaker 2: Nuts as I'm gonna guess it's between Donner Kawhi, but
Terrence Man could be the running too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Those are the guys and the offense states on the team.
Speaker 1: I'm so curious what the offense is going to look like.
Speaker 2: I was running the numbers the other day because we
brought this up, I think on the last show. So
I went through this was just offensive rating. Those were
good though, too, because I wondered what I threw it
out there. I think I asked for somebody in the
comment section to get to it. I don't believe Aye did.
But what's the worst offensive rating a James Harden team
has had? So I went over the last twelve years
basically since he became a number one option with Houston
game just years offensive rating at the end of the year,
and the worst his team has ever been his twelfth
and on average their fifth. Multiple times he was on
the team of the number one offense, and that is him.
That is a system, that is James Harden doing this stuff.
So now I'm almost talking myself into maybe we've been
overly cautious with offensive rating and how concerned we should
be with the offense this year. As long as Harden
is available, they should be a top twelve offense, not
just fifteenth, but maybe top twelve, top ten. Still, I
don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think worst case scenario, like really is
like the Clippers have a mediocre offense in the defense
is as bad as it was last year. That's like
that's floor, that's rock bottom for the Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't see how the defense can be as bad. Honestly,
I am counting on if it's not top eight, they're
in deep trouble. They're in deep Yeah.
Speaker 1: With the Van Gundy edition, Yeah, that would be that
would be brutal.
Speaker 2: A lot of building Top five. I don't know about
top five defense, but I'll take eighth.
Speaker 1: I am loving the wildly different expectations people have for
this Clippers team.
Speaker 2: Uh, A lot of unknowns.
Speaker 1: A lot of unknowns all right, rebounds last year Zoo
and we obviously know Zoo's gonna lead hopefully with over ten.
Kawhi was second with six point one boards per game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I expect that he'd be similar same one too, Yeah,
I think I think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Obama.
Speaker 3: Because he makes the jump.
Speaker 1: Dude, His per thirty six rebounds is like nineteen Dude,
when he makes the jump, finally he gets a chance.
You know, we haven't even talked about kai Jones yet.
Negligent and then this one's funny because they're just so rare. Steals.
Roco was the leader last year with two. But we're
gonna go to real sample sizes. Kawhi what was at
one point six and Paul George one point five? What?
I think it's hardened.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what's Harden's best season steel wise,
because he's going to be He's He's had been like one.
Speaker 2: Point led the league and steels I think twice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was at one last year, which I'm curious
how they counted those because he had a bunch of
strips and ship you know what I mean, Like there
was like the yeah, this James Harden strip club. There
was a lot of members of that. His most ever
per basketball reference was two per game in twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen. Okay, I think it's a.
Speaker 2: Lot of this is just he was playing a plus game,
like he was playing seventy five plus games so often
in his prime. Yeah, the accumulation led to him having
the most steals, not per game.
Speaker 1: I mean two per game at seventy eight games is
pert crazy.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of steals and one point nine in
eighty one games in fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Harden's probably number two on this great defender
we've been we've been beating that drum forever. Field goal
percentage last year, Zoo led with sixty four point nine percent,
Mason Plumbley second with fifty six point nine percent. What
a drop off? Who's number two this year on a
real sample size, Like we can't just say Kai Jones
because like maybe he comes in for three games and
shoots like eighty percent.
Speaker 2: So I'm guessing Kawhi was three three last year?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: Daniel Tye? Let me look, Tye, Tawhi in the conversation
is absurd.
Speaker 1: So if you take out Jordan Miller and Moosa, it
was Tice and then Kawhi.
Speaker 2: What was Kawhi fifty one percent?
Speaker 1: Fifty two point five? Oh my god, Terrence fifty one
and a half? Norm forty Oh yeah, Terrence in the mix.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that makes sense. Uh man, I'm gonna go
Terrence this year.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that. Hey, if he's gonna take a leap, he's.
Speaker 2: Because I think if he doesn't start off so slow
from three, that won't bring down his field goal percentage
as much. And he's been I think top three the
last two years at the RIM. He's been one of
the top finishers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I like that all right, second to last
one three point percentage last year's leaders on at least
two and a half attempts per game, I put a
caveat on this one. Uh Norm for five attempts per game,
Kawhi Leonard on the same number. That's crazy. Yes, I
think this stays exactly the same unless James Harden has
a crazy ass year from three because he took two
more than Norm and still shot there.
Speaker 2: I could see Kawhi only shooting thirty nine percent from
three this season, just because the volume is going to
be up. I expect him to take more shots he's
gonna have to take tougher shots. No, Paul George like
that still could be second though on high volume.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Harden would have to have like an all
time efficient year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Norm still probably.
Speaker 2: Number one, although Mobamba.
Speaker 3: Was on the team.
Speaker 1: Now incredibly, what do you shoot thirty nine?
Speaker 3: Last year? You said, yeah, thirty nine, it's real, Okay.
Speaker 2: This is like a tenpt and a half or two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, three quarters of an attenph and then last and
then last, but maybe not least turnovers per game. James
Harden led with two point six, but again he has
his usage right. He has the ball in his hands
so much. It'll still probably be James Harden for sure,
Gonna still be James Harden. Second on the team was
Paul George with two point one. Must have had some
home cooking on these books, because I could have sworn
he spilled more than two point one guest drinks with
Aaron Passes last year. Who's number two on the team
In turnovers? And again James Harden will be number one,
but only because he is the main point guard. Like,
still very good turnover numbers for someone who has the
ball in their hand that much.
Speaker 3: Kevin Porter Jr. Okay, just throw Yeah, he has like
a I think he has like a one to one
turnover to ratio is.
Speaker 1: I think he might be right on that.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm gonna go kawhi just because usage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, use it, yeah, use it. That would make sense. Yeah, okay,
never mind, it's not quite that bad. It's two to one.
So still that idea in your hands that much.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it'll be probably why someone in the
comments on the last show was saying that we were
ship talking Chris Dunn and.
Speaker 2: That's not true that like was it Doctor shap Like.
Speaker 1: Was like, you didn't say it was going to be
first team all NBA. I don't know what your guys
problem is. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, because we were
talking about Kevin Porter Junior and we were like, the
only way that Chris Donn you know, like it was
one of those situations where like all of these things
have to happen for Kevin Porter Junior to get minutes.
I think one of the things was Chris Done has
to not be good again a hypothetical he's going to
be good.
Speaker 2: I think I think he could get minutes even with
Chris Dunn being good. I'm counting on Chris dunb being
good right, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wait, last one before we do a quick
ad break and get to some fun stuff. Personal fouls
per game. Paul George led the team with two point
seven last year.
Speaker 2: You seemed higher in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zoo second with two point six, and then of
people who were still on the team, Terrence was third
with two.
Speaker 3: It'll be Zoo again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's third or who's second behind Zoo?
Speaker 1: I think maybe Harden Harden he was he was at
one point.
Speaker 2: Derek Jones Junior's foul right at ooh, it's those tough
matchups he gets.
Speaker 1: That's an incredibly good point. He's going to a lot
of the time he's going to be guarding.
Speaker 2: So he's at one point six last year fouls per
game and in just twenty three and a half minutes.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so it might be Derek Jones. Yeah, that's
a good call. But those are.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I think it depends too, because there was that goofy
shit last year where the refs they were just like, hey,
stop calling stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember games of the playoffs were two of the
most physical games I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. After the playoff after the All Star break in.
But it was like, hey, remember those just stop calling fouls.
Speaker 2: I think they got annoyed because they were told to
do this and then told her to do this, Like,
you know what, We're just gonna sit this one out.
Then you guys got to.
Speaker 1: Play your game. Please have no fouls.
Speaker 2: Call yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll just pick the ball up. Yeah, it'll be interesting.
Let us know in the comments who you think is
going to lead any of these categories. If you have
a really funny category you want to add, like vorp
or something insane. Oh my god, I just don't wait.
I have to share the screen really quick. So I
just googled Derek Jones junior. Uh, this is k Why
is ESPN doing this? That is very clearly possibly in
a seventy six ers jersey looking at it because it
has a sponsor on it. Who the Clippers do not
have a sponsor on their jersey.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's definitely a seventy six ers jersey they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're doing good stuff over there at ESPN. Keep it up,
yeaybe Pat McAfee can take over your fucking web dev
you losers.
Speaker 2: I mean, you pay Stephen A Smith his ten million
a year, there's not much left to go around of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just yeah, that's so funny. Was yeah, all right,
coming up, we're gonna take a quick break and then
we're talking city edition jerseys were leaked or released. I'm
not sure about that. The nd season tournament court was leaked.
And then I have a dip to talk about. Unclear
if my co hosts have a dip, but we'll get
to that. We got a break coming up, and then
dip and fun talk coming up in three two.
Speaker 2: What well, looking back in, it's clips and dip. I'm
ota masm. We got Chuck Macklin, will Updyke And this
is episode fourteen of season three. Oh you've got any more?
I don't know, trivial issues out of the way compared
to what we're talking about now, this is what fans
really care about. Do you have the page already up
to share here, Chuck, so we could show people these,
of course leaked jerseys. I don't get it. They're them,
they're them works. I really like it. So it's the
same thing as last year, but a baby blue instead
of the dark blue, and so the navy blue you
get almost a Chargers powder blue.
Speaker 1: Here, some people pointed out.
Speaker 2: Okay, there is more teal in it. Yeah, I agree
with that, But I mean some of these jerseys, guys,
we dodged. We dodged a bullet Compared to some of
the other jerseys that people are getting. With these city
edition ones from Nike, the Lakers are some of the
most horrific jerseys I've ever seen. Like I would have
designed that just to upset the Laker fans as a joke,
like prank them.
Speaker 1: Celtics one is horrible too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like stuff that has nothing to do with the
color scheme of teams. I'll take this. I will take
this and run honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in relation it's good. It's not. You know.
We have also just like new jerseys in general, so
I'm less worried about what the city editions like. We
have three brand new jures. Good point. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Which ones do you like more? Because I have this deft.
Speaker 3: The Pistons was like, oh, ships like San Antonio, I
would probably put ahead of it.
Speaker 2: I like the Jazz one.
Speaker 1: I don't have it on me like that.
Speaker 2: I actually like the Kings one decent, the Valley No.
Speaker 3: I don't like the Valley.
Speaker 1: This Valley one is weird. It looks like the Star
of David almost.
Speaker 3: I think the Charlotte one is great, Indies is terrible,
Plans is terrible, Atlanta isn't bad.
Speaker 2: I like the Sixers honestly, and I don't want to
have to say that, but I I kind of like.
Speaker 3: The at Atlanta's is good, is great.
Speaker 1: The Denver one is so bad.
Speaker 3: The Mads one would be better if it didn't have
the thing on the side. Minnesota one is Terribles one
is bad, Brooklyn one is awful.
Speaker 1: Celtics one looks like an AAU.
Speaker 3: Jersey, Nuggets one is horrendous.
Speaker 2: The Celtics one looks like Baylor.
Speaker 3: Yeah good, call Bucks one makes no damn sense. And
I think that the Jersey magic is cool. The jersey
looks better with a number on them. It's hard to
see what a jersey looks like without a you know
what I mean. There's going to be most of it
taken up, and the Clippers City editional court is sick
as hell. So I think all together would be cool,
but I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I like the Light Blue so much. I'm good. I
just love that that shade of blue a lot. Like
I'm big on that, so I I think it's an
improvement all last year's.
Speaker 3: I don't really like it.
Speaker 1: Bills up buying the jersey, I mean exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep the receipt on that piece.
Speaker 3: I like some of the other like I like some
of the other designs and some of the other merch
actually from this artists a little bit more of the jerseys.
To me, it just seems like a jersey that would
be in a video game where they couldn't license actual teams.
Speaker 1: Dude. That's how I felt about a lot of the
city editions. It was like, this is the team's jersey.
Speaker 2: It's one of the best of the worst. Like I
I honestly, I don't know. I honestly like it, and
I wasn't. I just they got me with the baby blue.
But there are some really curious choices going on with
Nike right now.
Speaker 1: That is exactly what the marketing executive that's the word
they're gonna use, Like, we had some cures choices this year,
and then we have we had another lead. This was
an actual leak because NBA two k people go into
the files and look at what the end season tournament
courts are going to be so we have. Also, the
Clippers in season tournament court was leaked, which pretty sick. Honestly,
I think with the full into an experience, this courtal
loo dope as hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with it.
Speaker 1: Like it's cool. I like the faint Clippers behind it.
If you're not watching this, which maybe should be for
this segment, dark court got the big as trophy in
the middle of it. And then yeah, like Clippers script.
I like this a lot. This is it's got the
red on the court, like this will be cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's they're more traditional now red and blue. Yeah,
that cursive script faded into the background looks sweet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're pro on this, and I mean anyone and follows.
You know, Chuck knows how much he loved the City
edition court.
Speaker 1: Oh come on, come on now, I love it. It's
the best of the Clippers have done in years. I'd
put that over the Kawhi and Paul George trade. Not
that far. All right, So we liked the court jerseys
were fine on former Now we're getting to former Clipper
great news. Trez signed with the Adelaide thirty six ers
in Australia, which is awesome shout out to Trez Montrez Harrel.
If you weren't there for that era, go watch the highlights,
and he was in a rough spot. So it's nice
to see him back in professional basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know a lot of people soured because he
went to the Lakers. It's been long enough, guys, we
can get over that and just celebrate Montrez Harrell a.
Speaker 3: Great personal cost to himself, like heep left tens of
millions of dollars on the table to do that with
what Charlotte, Yeah, his hometown team.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 2: It was a clutch signing.
Speaker 4: I think he was clutch signing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was unfortunate because he missed out a lot of
money and he's he's one of my all time favorite Clippers.
I can't help but love. I called him.
Speaker 1: Tres before they banned the Ninja head band. Come on.
Speaker 2: His energy and motor on the offensive end, I say
it was the Dennis Robin of offense, just because he
would not stop booming, which makes no sense because Dennis,
of course had zero offense, especially on the pools. But
uh yeah, the pick and roll with Tres and Lou
was legendary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember the pros Versus Joe's episode where
one of the things they had to do was grab
a rebound against Dennis Rodman. I think it was Petro.
It was impossible. I think they only grabbed one, and
it was because the ball took a weird bounce and
Dennis ron was like, I'm not going to get that
ship and I was like, oh, I got it, and
everyone's like, we don't care man, And then Bobon officially
retires from the NBA. One of the more fun eras
the Toby and Bobie era, beloved by everyone in the NBA,
even if he wasn't on your team. Yeah, shout out Boban.
He made those years fun.
Speaker 2: I remember his first coming out game with the Clippers
against Denver where he really shined. He came in the
second half and dropped like eighteen points in sixteen minutes
in Denver. Yeah. I love calling him the secret Weapon
because it's ironic because he's so big but.
Speaker 1: In the world accomplished actor as well. He was in
the worst John Wick.
Speaker 2: Movie, which one was that?
Speaker 1: Four?
Speaker 2: I like three.
Speaker 3: He's in three.
Speaker 1: Wait, Oh he's in three.
Speaker 2: Three's got some nun chefs. I love three.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he was in Four is the Worst Ones. Okay,
so he was in a he was dude, It's just like.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's one scene in particular, it goes on way.
Speaker 1: Too long, and there's like, in the beginning, this is
a class Eclipse and bit movie. Uh sure, in the beginning,
it's cool because for three movies you've seen Keanu Reeves
just shoot people endlessly, and the beginning that they're kind
of fighting with other weapons, so you're like, oh, this
is cool, like swords whatever. And then it's just straight
back to like him putting his gun in someone's mouth
and being like and you're like, great, you shot sixty
five people.
Speaker 3: Again, what did you think the movie was going to.
Speaker 1: Be more swords?
Speaker 3: But you've seen the other three movies.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't understand there was time travel. They go
back in time and they go forward.
Speaker 1: No, a lot.
Speaker 2: I thought the ending was solid. I thought the ending
was solid.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the ending. Okay, does he die?
Speaker 2: Take my word for it. It was you loved it.
Speaker 1: Take my word for it.
Speaker 3: An Oslin guarantee.
Speaker 1: In a while, did y'all bring any dips?
Speaker 3: It's midweek.
Speaker 1: I just just asking.
Speaker 2: I want to dip right now. So bad, but I
I'm trying to get to ten percent cooked pretty much.
A lot of question bars.
Speaker 1: Well, shout out quest you guys want send us some
quest bars, we'll talk.
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, I love the quest bar.
Speaker 1: I did a so I was lazy. I did a salsa,
but I was dipping what I had in a salsa.
That's my routine. Jabbari sauce. It's from Tucson. Oh, delicious, phenomenal.
I put it. I made a cheese toastata with Guerrero
to heen coated tostatas. It was good. It was really good.
I don't think it will help you get to ten
percent body fat. This salsa, Yeah, I would. I would
bring this to a barbecue. It's phenomenal sausa nice heat
to it, but not I really like it. Yeah, Adam,
what is your body found at? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna ad Dix's Dexa scan on Saturday,
and I'm hoping it's somewhere between twelve and thirteen because
if not, it's gonna get sketch. If I'm gonna be
able to make the cut.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a media day just gaunt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you putting on the sweatsuit yeah, and hop
on the bike.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you doing wrestling shit?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you like eating orange and jumping rope in a
hot garage?
Speaker 2: I go for walks for like a few miles every
night after eating dinner to burn like, you know, another
three hundred calories and just counting calories and making sure
I'm in a certain range.
Speaker 1: Well, at this point you could count the calories on
one hand. I feel how much food you're taking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's getting tough. I can't. I think you know,
all right, I'm just doing enough. I got I got
enough buscles.
Speaker 1: Bro brain, you'd be.
Speaker 2: Surprised what you can get away with that still feel
pretty good. It's really just the the urges that you
have to subside, the cravings. You just have to uh
go mind over matter.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm gonna eat the biggest burrito in
the world after we wrap up this, and I hope
you can. I hope you can osmosis take in the
enjoyment I'm gonna have. I got about wraps it up.
Unless you guys have anything else you would like to
say about the clippers.
Speaker 3: No, let's good, let's get out of you.
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. We're gonna be back next
week with another episode, getting close to game preview time.
First preseason game is October fifth versus the Warriors. I'm
using close loosely. Will If people wanted to share their
thoughts about this show and podcast, where could they possibly
do it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can share your thoughts on every single episode
over on YouTube dot com. That's at Clippers Podcast. If
you're not doing the video thing, you can listen to
us wherever you get your podcasts. If you have to
listen over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, you leave us
a little rating or review there. We'd you know, it'd
be nice. But no matter how you consume his show,
we appreciate you.
Speaker 1: It would be nice. We do appreciate you and Adam
Before we sign off, one positive thing to send these
Clippers fans on their well deserved weekend.
Speaker 2: Media Days eleven days away, and we're gonna have a
ton more content for you after that with all the
stories coming out, and hopefully we'll all be there asking
some questions, maybe a little more clarity on roster construction,
and we'll see who's going to be available to speak
on media day and who's not so I think it'll
be pretty informative. And yeah, it's less than two weeks away.
Speaker 1: It'll be a good time. Even with the with the
lack of calories, Adam is still very good at math
putting together. But there's only eleven days until the media day.
That's fantastic.
Speaker 2: The brain and all cylinders here boys.
Speaker 1: We will be back next week and as always, thank
you and let's go clips