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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. Prince Andrew's downfall has been a long time coming,

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and now that the time has arrived, there's a lot

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of questions about what it means. Well, today, in this

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article from the Deli Mail, that's exactly what we're going

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to talk about, as a royal biographer explains what has

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been taken from Prince Andrew, what it all means, and

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where everything goes from here. So why don't we just

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dive right into the article and get started. This article

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is from the Deli Mail and the headline Andrew Mount

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bound Windsor will have to bow to his daughter's Beatrice

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and Eugenie, says royal expert Robert Hardman as he answers

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all your questions about the disgraced former Duke's future. This

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article was authored by Ruth Stainer. When King Charles stripped

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Andrew mount Batton Windsor of his remaining titles and threw

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him out of the Royal Lodge, he left royal watchers

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with many unanswered questions. Does the disgrace Duke now have

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to bow to his daughter's Princess Eugenie and Beatrice? Having

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been exiled from the firm. Will you now finally have

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to apply for a passport? Oh? You mean like the

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rest of us? And I think he should. He probably

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has one already. But anything that a regular person in

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the UK has to do, that should be what Prince

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Andrew's up to, or the former Prince Andrew, I should say,

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And I've said it once and I'll say it again.

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This dude should have to get a real job like

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everybody else. Well, you think the rest of us want

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to wake up every morning and bust our asses, grind

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away like there's nothing better to do with our time.

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It's long overdue that Prince Andrew gets a dose of

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reality and what now of his ex wife Sarah Ferguson,

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who has lived at Royal Lodge with Andrew for many

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years despite the couple's divorce In nineteen ninety six. Following

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Buckingham Palace's statement, Royal biographer Robert Hartman, author of Charles,

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the Third New King, New Court The Inside Story, sat

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down with Delhi Mel's Palace Confidential host Joe Elvin to

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analyze the implications of the monarch's unprecedented move. Mister Hardman

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described Charles as the Fountain of Justice and liken the

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King's decision to strip Andrew of his honors and titles

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to effectively categorizing him in the same way as war

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criminals and enemies of the state. That's true, there's no

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bs there. I mean, historically speaking, when this happens to

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somebody of the stature of Prince Andrew, it usually means

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that you have engaged in treason. Now, obviously this is

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in treason at least that we know of, but it's

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certainly bad for the firm, and it's not good for

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the monarchy as a whole. And the fact that Prince

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Andrew has been out here and still, you know, pleading

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his case when everybody knows the truth is one of

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the main drivers for him being disgraced the way he is.

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If he would have just went away after all of

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this first came out, never did the BBC interview just

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folded into the background, he would still be protected by

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the Crown and by the royal family. But because he

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refused to do that, he wanted to still be out

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there jet setting and make him pretend une this happened. Well,

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now he's finally paying the piper, explaining the logistics behind

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Charles's decision. Mister Hardman said the King has exercised as

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royal prerogative with parliamentary and government approval. He's talked to

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the Prime Ministers about this, answering listener questions. He also

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broke down what Andrew's future might hold and the fate

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of the British monarchy in the eye opening installment of

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Palace Confidential Question number one, What exactly has been taken

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away from Andrew? According to Buckingham Palace's statement on October thirty,

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first Trick or Treat, the ex Duke has now been

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stripped of his style of hrh his titles as Duke

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and Prince, alongside two honors Knight of the Garter and

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Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order. Boy, there

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sure are a lot of orders over there, huh night

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this night at Lafongoul. It added that Prince Andrew will

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now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, and that he

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has been exiled from Windsor's Royal Lodge with a disgraced

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ex Duke now set to move to alternative accommodation should

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be a flat in the middle of London, and he

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should have to pay for all of it. If that

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means getting a job, well so be it. Why is

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it anybody else's issue or problem that Prince Andrew's having

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a tough time. He never cared about anybody else. Why

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should anybody care about him? Formal notice has also been

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served on Andrew the vacate Royal Lodge, the thirty bedroom

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residents he's occupied since two thousand and eight, following mounting

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public pressure over his friendship with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. And

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not just that again. Look, Prince Andrew has a lot

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of his own bullshit that he's gotten up to, and

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most of it has to do with him being greedy

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and well, being a sweaty nonce. But being greedy especially two,

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how will Princess Beatrice and Eugeni he be affected? Andrew's

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two children, whom he shares with his ex wife Sarah Ferguson,

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are likely to remain unaffected by the King's unprecedented decision.

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Mister Hardman explained they are still Princesses and hrh because

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they are the children of the son of a reigning monarch.

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All along, the King and other members of the family

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have been concerned that the sins of the family do

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not befall them. They are blameless. They have led a

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pretty upright life and are level headed and very nice

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young women. And look, I do not disagree with that.

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I don't have beef with them. I don't have any

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problem with them at all. Honestly, the sins of the

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father aren't drop down to the sins of the child,

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at least not for me. Now. If they were up

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to some bullshit, that would be a different story. And look,

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I'm not talking about what they're doing now, I'm talking

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about strictly as far as Epstein goes. I have no

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idea what Beatrice or Eugenie are doing these days, no clue.

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Never even looked into it, because it really doesn't move

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the needle with the overall conversation that we're having, So

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Eugenie into the conversation. However, he added that they are

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unlikely to take on any further duties, instead acting predominantly

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as essentially private citizens who are related to the king

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and occasionally turn up at royal events. Well, it's time

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to pare the monarchy down right. And I'm saying this

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as a outside observer. Obviously, I don't live in the UK,

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so I don't have the attachment to the royal family

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that some people might. But for me it seems like

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a slim down monarchy is the way to go, because

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as far as I'm concerned, the less bureaucrats the better.

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While the House of York has now become essentially dormant,

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the King has an essence created new rules which include

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the protection of Beatrice thirty seven and Eugenie thirty five

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as princesses of York. As daughters of the son of

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a sovereign, the sisters retain their titles in line with

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King George the fifth Lefe Letters Patent of nineteen seventeen three.

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Will Andrew now have to bow to his own daughters

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as Andrew is no longer a prince but instead a commoner.

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Mister Hardman confirmed that yes, he probably will have to

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bow to his own daughters, given that they retained their

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royal titles. Yet the royal biographer is convinced that Andrew

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is unlikely to bow happily and is likely dreading the

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moment that he will be publicly addressed. Is simply Andrew

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rather than Prince Andrew. That's going to be a whole

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lass bucket of cold water for this clown, when from

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living the high life of being the queen's favorite son

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to now being persona non grata, the kind of guy

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nobody even wants to be around, never mind associate with. Well,

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maybe the lady of Victoia Hovey, but besides that, I

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don't think anybody wants to be around this dude, not

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even Fergie. Will the former prince now need to get

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his own passport. Andrew Will already have a passport, though

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mister Hardman estimated he is unlikely to be doing much traveling.

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Reports had previously speculated that Andrew could be persuaded to

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set up home in a ten million pound luxury villa

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in Abu Dhabi's royal family fortified to stay Andy of Arabia. Baby,

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can you imagine? And that's why I put forward that

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scenario yesterday. Bro's out here acting the fool. I can't

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even imagine this dude in Arabia. What he should do

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is have a reality TV show follow him and just

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call that shit Andy in Arabia. Who's not tuning into that?

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I mean, we're talking about a car crash waiting to happen.

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I know, I know never gonna happen, But a guy

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can dream, can he And mister Hardman has not ruled

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out a form of actual exile for the disgraced former Prints,

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adding there's only so long somebody can sit on a

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farm in Norfolk. I mean when you're somebody like Andrew

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who's used to jet setting and traveling all over the

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world and having everybody bow down to you, Yeah, that

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has to be a bit of a shock, and I

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doubt he'll end up staying there forever. Speculating where Andrew

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could choose to base himself away from the eyes of

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the world and palace walls, the royal experts said Saudi

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Arabia springs to mind. It has a fairly good record

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on taking on waifs and strays nobody else wants. Yeah,

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if your checkbook is right, if you have the right

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amount of money, then yes, Saudi Arabia is like Flanders

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in the year ten sixty six. If you have enough dough,

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they're going to offer you protection. Will Andrew loses his

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position as Counselor of State and could the line of

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succession be modified. At this present moment, Andrew technically remains

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a counselor of state, meaning that he could be authorized

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to carry out the sovereign's official duties if they were

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unable to do so. Yo, can you imagine that shit

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disgrace Prince Andrew posted up on the throne while the

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king is caught up doing whatever. Talk about bad optics,

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talk about things that are never going to happen. This

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change therefore prevents Andrew, alongside his nephew Prince Harry, from

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fulfilling such a responsibility if the situation were to arise.

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Mister Hart estimated there's a slim chance Andrew will no

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longer be considered a counselor of state, as it doesn't

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need to happen and is not something that matters. And

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While he stressed that one should never say never given

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the unprecedented nature of Andrew's titles being relinquished, he noted

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that it would be rather unlikely that the line of

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succession would be modified in this instance, given Andrew his

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eighth in line for the throne. He pointedly added, if

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the point came where the only choice was to have

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Andrew on the throne, I think that would be the

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end of the monarchy. Yeah, I think so. Can you

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imagine the English people showing up to the Buckingham Palace

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gates going bananas. What will happen to Sarah Ferguson and

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could hurt and Andrew now live apart. Sarah Ferguson, also

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known as Fergie, only received a royal title through her

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marriage to Andrew in eighty six, and will now be

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known as playing Sarah Ferguson in any official capacities. Her

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Duchess of York title was the only connection to the

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royal family Fergie had retained after she divorced Andrew in

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ninety six and cease being a Royal Highness. Despite their

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divorce in ninety six, the couple continue to live together

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at the lavish thirty bedroom Royal Lodge at Windsor Well.

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Why would Fergie leave? Talk about the world's greatest grift.

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But unlike Andrew, who will move on to the property

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on the private Sandringham estate, Fergie will make her own arrangements.

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It's understood like it's going to be a big issue

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for her. Daughters are loaded. She's loaded. I don't want

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to hear she's broke. I don't buy that. And I'm

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sure she's gonna end up on her feet unlike the

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rest of us. Imagine you get booted out of your

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house right now. That would be fun. Huh. And my

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guess is nobody's brother is going to be riding in

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and offering you an estate at Sandringham. It marks a

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bitter end for Andrew and Sarah, the former Duchess, who

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once told the Deli Mail We're the happiest divorced couple

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in the world. Were divorced to each other, not from

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each other. But mister Hardman is not convinced that we

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have seen the last of Fergie, explaining that we could

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see the former Duchess reinvent herself and perhaps come back

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and enter into the form of charity work. I highly

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doubt that. Considering what her email stated to Jeffrey Epstein,

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I highly doubt any charity work is in her future. However,

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given the email revelations by The Mail on Sunday, which

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exposed her close friendship with pedophile Epstein, the Royal Expert

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made it clear that she will not be going back

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into the field of children's books. Yeah, probably not. That's

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like get nell for cannibalism and then trying to become

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some kind of food critic. The former duchess apologize to

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prolific pedophile financier Epstein in April of twenty eleven, less

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than two months after telling journalists I will never have

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anything to do with Epstein again on the same live

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bus that her husband was on. Shouldn't shock anybody. Two

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birds of a feather after all. Addressing her supreme friend

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in an email from the Truth of my Heart, she

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humbly apologized to the convicted sex offender for letting him down,

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adding that she had been told to speak out if

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she wanted to save her career as a children's author.

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Before the scandalous revelations, Fergie was due to release her

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latest children's book, titled Flora and Kern Kindness along the

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Way on October ninth. It has since been delayed. Well,

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that's a shaka who though, wants to buy a children's

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book from somebody that's been a penpal to Jeffrey Epstein

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and who's accepted Jeffrey Epstein's largess and was hanging around them.

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I'm sure parents worldwider racing out to purchase that. Can

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Andrew now vote? While highly unprecedented move, Andrew could choose

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to shift from palace to politics as he is indeed

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able to vote. Mister Hartman stress that though it's unlikely

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he would vote, he could stand for the local council

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in Norfolk and do something useful. Making light of a

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scenario in which former Prints could stand for a role

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in public office, he added, I'm not sure he'd get

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many votes. Yeah, highly doubt anyone's voting for Prince Andrew.

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What will happen to Andrew's royal protection and how will

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it be funded? Since being stripped of his royal titles?

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Who remains unclear how Andrew will be protected as he's

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no longer remains a part of the firm. However, mister

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Hardman stresses that given his non existent role as a

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working royal undertaking any public engagements, he doesn't really need

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or have any security. He added that it's unlikely scenario

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that he was going into any so called public facing

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interactions there would likely be somebody there to keep an

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eye on him, given that there is a heightened risk.

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He's pretty well insulated from the outside world and I

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wouldn't imagine that that's going to change, he explained. Well,

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I'm sure that there's going to be some sort of security,

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but as long as it's being funded by somebody besides

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the taxpayer. Then cool did the Queen protect Andrew Despite

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her beloved son being gradually embroiled by the Epstein scandal

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In the final years of her life and reign, The

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late Queen was perceived by some to have protected the

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former Duke. Yes, she did, without a doubt, without a question,

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with many describing him as her favorite. Mister Hartman explained

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that the late monarch saw he was the most vulnerable

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of all the children and took pity on Andrew as

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he's your classic spare. He added, the Queen was very

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sympathetic to spars. She could see that being number one

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came with all sorts of privileges that she herself enjoyed,

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and being runner up leaves you more exposed. Imagine that's

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your biggest problem on the spare to the air. Let

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me tell you about growing up in the South Bronx.

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Let me tell you about growing up on the east

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side of Las Vegas. And I'm supposed to have sympathy

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because this dude was born as the second born son

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of the Queen of England. Yeah right, not now, not ever.

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If you're the sort of slightly gullible impressionable in his case,

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feckless individual that makes you pray for the likes of

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Jeffrey Epstein. I don't like that narrative either. This man

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knew exactly what he was doing, who he was doing

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it with, and chose to do it anyway. We're not

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going to set Prince Andrew up as just some oakie

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doak stupid ass. He had all the power in the world,

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and not only that, he was warned about Jeffrey Epstein

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and what Jeffrey Epstein was. He ignored those warnings. Why

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because it benefited him. The royal expert described how it

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had been very painful for the late Queen to effectively

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stirp Andrew of all of his honorary military titles in

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twenty twenty two, adding the Queen had to do some

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very tough things, but clearly things had to go further,

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and now they have. What she tried to do was

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kill the whole entire argument by going just far enough

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when she should have went all the way. And that

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was the criticism at the time, and people said that

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it was going to come back to bite the royal

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family directly in the ass. And here we are explaining

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why King Charles decided to go one step further than

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his mother. He said, I think this has been a

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long time coming. It's been brought to a head by

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the news in the Mail on Sunday and subsequent revelations.

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I think that accelerated things, But the main issue is

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that this is gaining momentum. I think you have an

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MPs in Parliament saying it's time to look at the

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whole issue of the monarchy. When you have that kind

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of atmosphere, you've got to move fast. And that's what

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he's done. Was Charles's delay in taking action due to

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a possible fear of hurting his brother. For mister Hartman,

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there is no doubt that Charles banishing Andrew from royal

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life will have been the hardest decision of his reign. However,

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he added, when your monarch, your loyalty to the institution

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outweighs your loyalty to individuals. The lay Queen found it

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incredibly difficult to essentially force him to leave public life.

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For her, she was a Princess of York, her father

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was Duke of York. It was such a precious thing

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to her and she was so pleased to give it

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to him. On his wedding day. Suddenly it became tainted.

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Andrew took on a lot of things that Philip had

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relinquished during his retirement and then his death. For the

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Queen to have to watch all that being unraveled was

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very painful. And I told you then and i'll tell

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you now. Prince Andrew drove the Queen to her grave,

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and he's driving Charles there too. As far as she

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was concerned, things had reached rock bottom. Of course, there's

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now been a much longer, deeper drop. He added that

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while Charles and Andrew undoubtedly had a close relationship in

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their early days of marriage, explaining that the late Princess

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Diana brought them together over a lunch at Windsor where

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they happily enjoy chocolate. The King is a wise guy,

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and here's what's going on. He would have picked up

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on a grave line when these ambassadors were rolling their

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eyes and tearing their hair out because Andrew was doing

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something stupid. Mister Hardman explained, Yeah, there was a lot

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of stuff going on with the ambassadors and other people

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that work with Andrew and the government who weren't happy

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with the way he conducted himself, and that was something

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that was going on for quite some time. Could the

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King give the Duke of York title to anybody else?

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While the King is technically free to do so, mister

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Hardman stressed that it's highly unlikely that the York title

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will be given to anybody else while other descendants of

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the last dukedom remain alive. I think it's going to

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the title cupboard and we'll stay there for a very

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long time, he added, explaining how the title will likely

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remain dormant for this generation. The royal biographer stated that

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it could make a comeback at some point in the future,

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particularly given it belonged to some honorable royals, including the

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late Queen's father, George the Fifth. And I really have

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nothing to add there because I don't really understand how

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all the titles work over in the UK as far

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as who gets them who doesn't get them, So we'll

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just go with what the author has to say here.

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What mister Hardman has to say was Prince Andrew persuaded

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to leave Royal Lodge or did he vacate happily? While

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mere speculation about what truly occurred behind the scenes, Mister

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Hardman argued that Andrew may likely have been persuaded to

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leave the royal mansion, haven't been left with no alternative.

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He added, the King had offered him a very good deal,

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which was to move out of the Royal Lodge, retain

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his allowance and live in Frogmore Cottage quietly, but Andrew

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turned it down. Boy, I wish somebody would show that

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deal for me. Sure, I'll move wherever you want. You're

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paying me how much? Cool I'm in? I think that

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he has now realized that those bills are beyond payment.

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Whatever residual prospects he had of a business career has

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gone in the last few weeks. It was just long term.

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It was completely unfeasible for him to stay there. He

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had his offer a year ago and turned it down.

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What's changed now is public opinion and the latest revelations

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that he hadn't been telling the whole truth have materially

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changed the King's view and everybody else's point of view. Well,

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if you guys would have been paying attention, you would

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have known that he's been lying the whole time. I mean,

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it's not like we were just pulling it out of

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thin air. The evidence was right there for you to follow. Sure,

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a lot of it was circumstantial. But when you add

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up all that circumstantial evidence while, you get to a

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place where it becomes almost irrefutable. And that's the place

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we arrived when we're talking about dumbass Andrew. So people

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might be shocked, but anyone who's been paying attention seen

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this come in a mile away. Describing Sandringham as akin

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to the shed at the bottom of your garden, he

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explained that Andrew has now become a mere tenant rather

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than a prince bestowed with the luxurious confines of a palace. Ah,

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poor Andrew doesn't have a palace anymore. What happens next

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for Andrew It remains unknown how Andrew is feeling towards

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his brother's decision to publicly strip him of his royal titles,

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but the Royal biographer suggested it would have been a

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bitter appill to swallow in a particularly acute sign of

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his unwavering love for his position in the firm. The

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former prince was even said to have flown his royal

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standard above the house. Now this has all irrevocably changed

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for Andrew. I don't think he'll be flying any standard

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above the tenant property in Norfolk, if indeed it even

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has a flagpole. Maybe in the privacy of his own

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home he still put on his garter robes and walk

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around the garden. The royal expert added, when you were

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within the royal world, things like honor really matter. That

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mantlepiece is going to be very bare. Imagine that's what

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your whole life was about. What sort of honorifics could

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be bestowed upon you by your mom and your dad.

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As Andrew is set to begin his new life in Sandringham,

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it remains unclear how exactly the monarchy will be subsequently transformed.

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Yet the writing is seemingly on the wall where King

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Charles stands as the monarch appears unafraid to put principle

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and duty over brotherly ties. Well, his hand has been forced.

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Could have done this years ago, could have done this

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right after he took the throne. He didn't do it,

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So let's not give him all the credit here. I

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give the credit to the people in the UK. You

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force this shit to happen, Give yourselves a pat on

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the back. Ultimately, as mister Hardman explains, the King's decision

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enacted last week indicates a rather clearer precedent if you

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seriously let down the royal side, then these things that

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over the years members of the family took for granted

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can be taken away. And from my perspective, the only

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question I have is what took so long? Because this

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was always the inevitable result, and the fact that they

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dragged it out is something that's going to be studied

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throughout history. The second that these allegations popped out, the

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second that Prince Andrew paid that settlement, that should have

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been the final nill in the coffin of his disgrace.

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But he was still out here, still doing his things,

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still running around, still carrying his titles. And now it's

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all come crashing down in spectacular fashion. And now all

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that's left to do for the Royal family is to

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clean up the mess. All of the information that goes

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