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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference, the

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podcast for All Sports Discussion dot com. This is Jeff

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Speaker 4: Yeah, meet yourself when you're not speaking, because that will

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Matthew here.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, we have one of our great return guests here tonight.

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Welcome to this week in the ACC. A. J. Black

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is here with us. He's a Boston graduates of and

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he's also the owner and operator of Eagles Insider. This

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is the Boston College Athletics two four seven seven two

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four seven sports site. It's not affiliated with the university,

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so of course mister Black has a lot of freedom.

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So before we go on, a J I give you

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a little bit of a plug there. I want to

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make I think we got everything accurate there, but if

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there's anything else that we had that you like to

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plug here. Please do tell us about yourself too and

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any special features that you have going on.

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Speaker 2: Now, thanks again for spending your Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on, guys. Yeah it's you. Guys

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did a great job of introducing me. Thank you so much. Yeah,

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I'm the host of Lockdown BC. If you want to

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listen to some depressing sports news, please come on over.

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BC basketball is absolutely atrocious. BC football hasn't won a

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football game against an FBS school this season, so the

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the conversations have been I try not to make them dreary.

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I've had a lot of fun with some of the

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things that we've talked about, but it's been tough.

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Speaker 4: The hockey will.

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Speaker 2: It's a good, it's a good.

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Speaker 5: They're usually go right, sorry, there a j there we go. Thanks, Sorry,

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just keep getting muted. Yeah, the bat the hockey team

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is definitely playing pretty well. They split with number ten

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Main this weekend, which was a big series for them.

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But yeah, it's other than that, it's been a tough,

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tough fall for about Boston College athletics.

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Speaker 2: All right, sir, with which and which which?

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Speaker 5: All Right, I'm gonna go with the most disappointing team

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being Florida State. I thought that they were going to

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get their chance to get into a bowl with a

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win over n C State, and my gosh, n C

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State kept giving them chances over and over again to

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get back in that football game, and Florida State would

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just not take it. So I thought the Seminoles, you know,

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their offense looked completely broke in again, which, as someone

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who's covered Boston College could tell you that you're gonna

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get those games with Tommy Castle lines where things just

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don't work, was not working at n C State. So

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now you know, I know that they've taken some step forward,

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but now they're you know, they've got to beat Florida

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to get into a bowl game, but Florida looks awful too,

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so that that could be going either way. But I

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think the biggest disappointment for them is the fact that

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the fact that Mike Norvel is coming back, because it

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sounds like Florida State just doesn't want to pay him,

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which is crazy for a school that you know, talks

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about that talks a big talk about how you know,

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they're an upper echelon team, but they're not going to

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do the things that other big, big time schools will do.

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So I I go, I go with Florida State this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, Jeff, you're up friend?

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Speaker 3: All right? A j which ACC team did you have

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as the as the most impressive team and to go

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back to that disappointing team? I mean this hurts me

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as a as a Georgia Tech guy. I mean I

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was I was crushed at the performance by Georgia Georgia

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Tech this past weekend. Yeah, they just they weren't prepared,

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they weren't ready. After three weeks or two weeks of

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playing really terrible defense against NC State and then you know,

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look great against Georgia Tech and then you come out

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against Pitt and you're down twenty eight zero, you know,

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before the second quarter is getting going with so much

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on the line. I was definitely disappointed in Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 1: Is that inm.

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Speaker 5: Aj I'm gonna go with SMU this weekend. I know

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Louisville was playing without Miller Moss. They played, you know,

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they were missing a bunch of different guys on their offense,

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but that was the most complete game I think I've

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seen out of SMU all season. You know, Kevin Jennings

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threw for three hundred and three yards three touchdowns. You know,

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Jordan Hudson looked great. Their defense held Louisville to six points.

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to solidify themselves in the ACC, and I thought SMU

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looked fantastic. And to kind of jump into what you

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said earlier, I also want to put Pitt on there

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because they you know, they handled a potential comeback excuse

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me against Georgia Tech, but they looked as good as

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they can get. And Mason Heischel is quite the quarterback

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and they've got a bright future right there and a

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chance to go into the ACC championship game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, really impressive performance by Pitt and in a

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really electric environment down there. Bobby Dodd, they they just

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came in there with a with a mission. Heinzel was outstanding,

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played unbelievable in the first half. And their defense, you know,

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as probably was the first defense and probably well over

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a year that that you know, really harassed Haines King

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they were able to do things that you know the

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Georgia Bulldogs couldn't do last year and that and that

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was to get to Haines King a little bit. So

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definitely agreed. Great job by Pitt uh So, AJ, Which

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ACC football game are you looking forward to the most

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in Week fourteen?

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Speaker 5: I mean I would be lying if I didn't say

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BC and Syracuse. I'm just kidding. Uh No, I will

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say that just to be a little bit honest. I say,

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as someone who covers BC, it's a chance for Boston

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that anything should happen, but I do think they're a

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better team than Syracuse, even though the record doesn't show

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it right now, and I think they can beat them,

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and it's a big rivalry game, So I would say that.

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But man, I am I'm really looking forward to Georgia

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Attack and Georgia this weekend. That was my one of

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my favorite games I watched all of last year, just

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the battle of that. I mean, Haynes King basically took

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on Georgia himself and almost came out on top. So

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I'm looking forward to a rematch there. I think that

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would be a big one that I'm looking forward to

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see a ton of games that really strike my fancy

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in terms of ACC games. You know, the other one

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I would look at is obviously Miami and Pitt. That

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one's gonna be a huge game with ACC championship implications.

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There is pit legit and they're a tough team. They're

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a really, really tough team, and Miami has not shown

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that they have been a mentally tough team this season.

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I would really love to see Pitt, you know, at home,

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win that game. That would be huge for them, and really,

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I think for the conference it would hurt on one

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sense because your your major, you know, Marquee team is

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not as good as they think they are. But it

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would be really cool to see Pitt just kind of

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step up and take that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you and you mentioned Syracuse. Ajuh, I just

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got to ask, what is friend Bran doing starting Joe Fallardi?

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: That has just been one of the worst decisions I've

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seen a coach make this year. I mean that he's

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getting thrown out there week after week and just absolutely

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ill equipped to run a you know, power for team,

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and then Notre Dame probably could have scored one hundred

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and thirty points on Syracuse. So last year, you know,

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Bran Brown's the toast of ACC football, and this year

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Steve Angelly goes down and fran Brown.

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Speaker 5: Just yeah, you know, I think you know if Jelly.

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Speaker 3: If you look, oh, we're looking ahead to Week fourteen,

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which ACC team could be upset if they're looking ahead

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to a game on their schedule or otherwise sleepwalking on

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the field. And if I interrupted what you were about

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to say, please go ahead with.

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Speaker 5: Your sorry, it kind of cut out there a little bit.

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I was gonna say. I think what fran Brown has

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done really a nice job is bringing in that like

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elite quarterback. You know, he had McCord last year and

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now he has and Jelly. But you know, he's put

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a few pieces around those guys. He also lucked into

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having a lot of talented wide receivers last year that

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were coming in from the previous regime. But the part

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about fran Brown that really shocks me is that he

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came in as a defensive coach and for two straight

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years that team has had nothing for defense, and it

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showed against Notre Dame. But I expect BC to run

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all over them too, because I just don't think they

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have They have one of the worst explosive run defenses

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in the country, as in, they let up a ton

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of explosive runs. I think BC could really put a

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hurt in on them. Now for the second question, what

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team could be on upset alert this week? You know,

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one that seems to always pop up in that's South

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Carolina and Clemson. South Carolina has owned Clemson, is it

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two games in a row. I think they've beaten them,

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and Clemson obviously has not looked that great. To have

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them finished six and six would be quite the blow,

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especially because I mean, I think we did a show

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earlier this year. I came on here and say Clemson

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was the toast of the town and they're gonna win

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the conference easily, and now they're a middling, barely bowl

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eligible team. I think South Carolina has just enough to

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win that kind of game. So I look at that

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one as they win, and then I also look at

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Duke and wake Forest. I love Wake Forest man. What

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they have done. You know, with the new head coach

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there and uh, you know, winning eight games, potentially nine

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if they win this one. I just I just think

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this is a game that could come in and sneak

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a win, especially since since it's at home.

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Speaker 3: Are you very good, Matthew? You said you got to

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follow up here?

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Speaker 2: I do, I do?

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Speaker 4: Ahja, you know there's this other game that's happening at

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seven o'clock at ESPN of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Is this is this?

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Speaker 4: Is this a potential trouble spot for the Who's who

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are two and twenty three in their last twenty five

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versus Virginia Tech. Would you see this as a when

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you see this as a potential loss, I mean I

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as a hokey. I always think Virginia Tech's gonna win, right,

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But I I know that Virginia Tech, you know, has

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an interim coach, has substantially less talent than they've had

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last year, and a lot of players go through the

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set transfer portal probably has a lot of guys that

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are in their mindset wondering what's gonna happen with them

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next year. Franklin's coming in, There's all these variables and

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things like that, but I always think it's gonna happen

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when I always think as a hokey that it's gonna happen,

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and more often than that, more often than not, I've

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been right. I want to get your thoughts on that,

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because I haven't really seen the Who's played too much

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this year because they've been playing around the same time

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as Tech has.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, anything could happen. Obviously, the vibes are

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really high right now. Virginia Tech hiring Franklin it was

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a great, great move for that that program, and he

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seems like a great fit for them. Virginia. Virginia is

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really good right now. Obviously they're nine to two. Chandler

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the portal putting that team together. I don't know if

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they have enough bullets in the chamber to win a

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game like this, you know what I mean, Like, I

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just you know, I know it's a huge rivalry. I

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know it's a big battle between these two schools. I

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just you know, Virginia needs this win so badly. It's

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a home game for them, you know. The ACC championship

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is on the line, and I mean, going into this season,

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just like everything else than this weird conference, this was

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a you know, Tony Elliott was the I think the

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hottest team coach on the hot seat going into the season,

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and now he's he's gonna be the toast of the town.

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So I I like Virginia in this game, but hey,

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when a rivalry game happens, anything can can go on

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on the field. Who knows, maybe Virginia Tech finds something

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that they can exploit on Virginia. I I'm not sure

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they're going to be able to do.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: I think the Who's will get one, and I think

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they'll end up being three out of twenty six. I

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think I do think that Who's will get one this year.

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There you go, I'm making my pick.

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Speaker 3: Jeff all right, I hear you, Matthew h a j

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Let's step out of the ACC for a bit here.

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Which national, FBS or FCS game are you looking forward

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to the most fourteen? And we're wind up wide open.

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Speaker 5: For any game this this uh, this this weekend. I'm

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always I'm always a sucker for the Iron Bowl. I

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will watch that anytime that's on TV. But give me,

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you know what, you know what fun game I'm looking

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for forward to a this weekend. Give me Vanderbilt in Tennessee, I,

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you know, one last time to probably watch Diego Piva

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play one more game Vanderbilt. You know, they're on the

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verge of going ten and two. And if he wins

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that game, Clark lay is gonna have to be a

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candidate for some of these new jobs that are opening up,

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because to do that at Vanderbilt is what got James

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Franklin in his job, but to do it again shows

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you what kind of coach he is. So I think

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they I think they're gonna go to Nyland Stadium and

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beat Tennessee and end up tennant two and be a

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playoff team. And that's gonna be crazy.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Our next two segments are our open mic segments, and

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we're going to start the first one off AJ. We

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call it our guest only open Mike. What's on your

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anything you want to talk about?

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Speaker 5: All right? So you know you guys have me on.

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I gotta talk a little bit about BC football for

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a second, because I haven't had a chance to talk

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to you guys about that since the beginning of the season.

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Disappointing year, and really it's gonna be a fascinating offseason

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for the Eagles. I think, as I said earlier, I

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think they're gonna beat Syracuse, so that's gonna give them

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just a little bit of a mental going into the offseason.

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But I do think Bill O'Brien's gonna probably have to

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clear house with his coaching staff. I think we're potentially

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looking at two new coordinators. I think positional staff. He

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brought in a lot of guys that were with Jeff

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Haffley because he started late and couldn't get his own guys.

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I think a lot of them probably get moved on.

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basically for the portal, went out and grabbed a bunch

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of FCS guys and not even like star FCS guys,

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guys that were just kind of developing, and it bit

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him in the butt. This year, he's gonna have to

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do much better. This team got hurt. It had no

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depth and that's why they won one game at this point.

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So he's gonna be able to go out there and

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get guys that could jump in and play right away.

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are gonna you know, you know, could enter the portal too.

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So this is gonna be a crazy offseason for Boston College.

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It's been really depressing and to pair it up with

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a basketball team that, honestly, I'm gonna say it on

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my podcast tomorrow, Earl Grant needs to be fired in

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the next week or so. Like he's terrible, Like the

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what he's doing with this program. There the ability to

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shoot a basketball, run a coherent offense. He doesn't understand

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the flow of the game. He can't really diagnose plays

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very well or drop graft up plays. It's just his

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rotations are terrible. You had Donald Hand who's shot like

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six of like fifty from three point range. He just

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keeps letting him watch him. It's just been a really

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lousy time. But I think for BC, and this is

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the big thing because I see all the oh BC

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should be removed from the ACC blah blah blah. They

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have a president, father Lahy, right now, who is about

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as lukewarm on sports as it gets, and he is

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retiring at the end of this year, but starting in January,

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his replacement father Jack Butler. He starts up and Father

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Jack Butler has been with the football team as the

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team chaplain and is a huge athletics proponent, and he

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takes over. This could be a big moment in BC

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history because I think this new president could change the

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future of BC and how they view and spend for

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this program to make them a winning program. I think

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Father Jack Butler could be the biggest acquisition BC football

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in BC basketball lands all year.

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Speaker 3: All right, Matthew, I'm gonna turn it over to you

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for our last segment in this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent take their ajs. So you've kind of teed

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me up.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna use my open mike as a follow up

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question for you, and then you can also talk about

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whatever you want. But my follow up question then for

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you is who's on your list for next BC men's basketball? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Man, I honestly I do more covering the football team,

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so I don't even know who. I would say, like,

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who's the guy from Central Connecticut? He was someone I

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was watching sellers. I think his last name was guy

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can run a sick defense, So he was someone I

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was looking at. But honestly, I honestly don't know, but

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what BC. What I will say this is that BC

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has to get a new head coach that can sell

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the program because they have for the last two coaches

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that they've hired, Earro Grant and Jim Christian, they were underwell.

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When they first hired them, everyone was like, who are

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these guys? Steve Donahue didn't work out, but at least

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he had back to back sweet sixteen runs when he

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came in. He just just wasn't the right fit. So

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they gotta pay. That's the big thing. And that's what

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I think Father Jack is gonna have to play a

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big role here, is because BC cannot cheap out and

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just you know, go to the bottom of the a

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SEC and how much they spend they need to pay

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for head coach and they need someone who's gonna be

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able to raise money for n A L stuff because

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BC is woeful in that right now?

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Speaker 4: Fair enough, fair enough? What do you got for your

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open mic? You got a second one here, Ian J.

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Speaker 5: I have second one. I already kind of went on

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my tangent man.

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Speaker 3: Transfer.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I'm very curious to see how many BC

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players end up in the portal for football, and I

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go back to the people that are complaining about that.

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You know, you see it online, right the people that

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are like, oh, it's gonna be a mass exos, well,

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your team was one and eleven. Who cares if there's

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some Max exodus. Get talent here, because it clearly it's

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not there right now. But I will say this, BC

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got hammered with injuries. A lot of the guys that

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got hurt, especially on the defense on the side of

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the ball, where BC was atrocious. Many of those guys

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were projected to cycle out after this year. They can

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now red shirt guys like Bam Crouch, who was, you know,

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their leading tackler from last year. He played three games

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this year. He could come back. You got guys like

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Amari Jackson, who is your starting cornerback for multiple years.

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of that talent could really infuse with some depth from

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the portal. You could see BC maybe making some moves there.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, Fair enough, Jeff, you're up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting into those preseason conference tournaments in college basketball.

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So I just want to hit on a couple things.

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It's been a pretty solid start for the ACC especially

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considering the last couple of years. But also there's been

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some disappointments. There's been a bunch of Power Conference games

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that have gone down to the wire that the ACC

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team couldn't close out, and you know, they've got to

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start turning the corner on some of those if they

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if they want to be the league, I think that

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has the potential to you know, to be and I'm talking,

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you know, a nine or a ten bid league. They

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need to start closing out some of those games. But

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I don't think there's any question they're going to get

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more than the four or five they've had the last

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couple of years. But whether that ceiling number is six

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or seven or nine or ten, and it's going to

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depend on these pre conference tournament results. But you look

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down the schedule, Duke outstanding, Louisville outstanding. Those are two

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teams that are capable of getting into the final four.

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North Carolina is very good. I think smu Is you know,

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is really good as well. They have a really nice

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win over Butler. Virginia Tech is really impressed here in

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the early season, and today Clemson kind I think they

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made a statement this weekend down in Charleston, knocking off

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West Virginia and then today, you know, if you were

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following Clemson at all, the question was, you know, did

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they have enough offensive firepower to kind of match you know,

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a Brad Brennell team that looks pretty physical inside. His

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team's usually played pretty good defense. And they ran with

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Georgia today and knocked them off in overtime. And I

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think you'll see Georgie is one of the better offensive

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teams you'll see this year. So I now put Clemson

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in that category of ACC teams that looks like they

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can get to an NCAA tournament. If we're talking six, seven,

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eight bids, I think Clemson is there in that category.

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And there haven't been as many of those by game

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losses than we've seen in the past. I know Pittsburgh

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lost to Quinnepac today and Jeff Cable's probably on the

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mega hot seat at Boston College is kind of struggling

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here out of the gate unfortunately. AJ We've already talked

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about that. But those are the only two teams in

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the ACC that I think have really struggled to start

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the season. So you've got another fifteen or another nine

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ten teams and see who can come out of that

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out of that pack to get in there, but pretty solid.

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I would give it a pretty solid start for the

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ACC with still some room room to improve if they

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can close out some of these non conference games where

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the middle of the pack has kind of missed on

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a few opportunities. But Clemson this weekend was definitely one

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team that kind of turned the corner on that knocking

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off West Virginia and Georgia and what you want to

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win the Charleston Class.

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Speaker 4: Sixty, Well, here's one game I'm looking forward to right

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December seventh, that Sunday, Georgetown.

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Speaker 2: Substantially improved.

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Speaker 4: Georgetown, by the way, goes on the road to North

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Carolina and they played and they Georgian. The Hoyas have

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probably have the best defensive team I've seen in this city,

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and I've been here quite a while now, probably the

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best defensive team I've seen in DC in a long time,

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I think over ten years.

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Speaker 2: It's there.

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Speaker 4: They're playing some of the best defense I've seen on

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the Hilltop in years. And they went on the road

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and beat Maryland and they and guys they a j

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I know and Jeff, I know you know this. Maryland

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and Georgetown haven't played each other in years and and

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there was perhaps bad blood between the two programs, and

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it's about recruiting and all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Georgetown went on the road.

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Speaker 4: To College Park and won that game, and then, of

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course Jeff knows they they defeated Clemson earlier this year.

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I'll be interested to see how North Carolina handles that

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kind of on the ball pressure, that kind of defense.

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It's gonna be a fun game. It's gonna be It's

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gonna be a fun game because the first thing the

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hoy Is are gonna try to do is they're gonna

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try to slow down North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: That you can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't let North Carolina get into a transition game,

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otherwise you're in deep trouble. And if they get into

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a slow game with North Carolina, it's gonna it's it's

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gonna be a it's gonna be interesting watch.

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Speaker 2: It's one game.

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Speaker 4: I have circled down my calendar and have everything, everything

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on the ship, everything put to the side for those

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couple of hours to take a look at that one.

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Speaker 2: But that's it.

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Speaker 4: Well, guys, thank you so much, AJ Black, thank you

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for joining us on this Sunday and evening on the

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All Sports discussion ACC podcast.

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Speaker 2: We loved having you come on the show. Thank you

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for spending your Sunday evening with us, and we'd.

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Speaker 5: Love to have you come on again Sunday. All right,

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every great week.