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Speaker 1: get our second hour started by bringing in mister C. L.
Speaker 1: Brown of the Courier Journal cl Did you think that
Speaker 1: the Cards played one of their better games against Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I'm coming at it from a
Speaker 1: fans perspective. I feel like, you know, I wish they
Speaker 1: would have won. They could have done some things better,
Speaker 1: but I kind of feel like that was a really
Speaker 1: good shot from this team as far as what they
Speaker 1: have to work with against a really good team at
Speaker 1: their place.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. I think so. I would even
Speaker 2: be more specific and say I think they played one
Speaker 2: of their better games offensively. Defensively. I felt like they
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of those like runouts and transition
Speaker 2: where somebody wasn't back, somebody didn't just stop the ball
Speaker 2: from going down the lane in the first half. You
Speaker 2: know a couple of those things that have to be
Speaker 2: cleaned up. I thought defensively could have been better. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they make fourteen three pointers. They're gonna win
Speaker 2: a lot more games in the second half of the
Speaker 2: season than lose.
Speaker 1: And I know that some people just look at the
Speaker 1: numbers and say, hey, well they got hot early on
Speaker 1: against Duke, and you know, they had a pretty good
Speaker 1: shooting day against Kentucky.
Speaker 3: But they hit tough shots at the end.
Speaker 1: But but you know, I actually feel like the numbers
Speaker 1: may be, you know, beawt as fluky and like, hey,
Speaker 1: probably not going to see him make eight of their
Speaker 1: first eleven very often. But I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not just like they were rushing to just try
Speaker 1: to get the best look they can get as soon
Speaker 1: as possible. Like I feel like they were kind of
Speaker 1: just out there playing ball, and you know, guys took
Speaker 1: their opportunities kind of. I just to me, it seems
Speaker 1: like offensively with the seven guys you're playing, these guys
Speaker 1: are getting more comfortable individually to where they're kind of
Speaker 1: finding where they fit. You know, Jamon Hadley, I think
Speaker 1: what you've seen from him recently is kind of what
Speaker 1: he's gonna be Chucky, Hepburn the aggressive version of him. Clearly,
Speaker 1: that's where Louisville has their highest ceiling. Terrence Edward's coming
Speaker 1: off the bench, but man, he's playing with a lot
Speaker 1: of confidence. I don't know what the overall ceiling is
Speaker 1: for this screw, but I think offensively, you know, against
Speaker 1: a good Kentucky team, like if if they can be
Speaker 1: that version and you know, maybe not shoot as well,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have off nights, but I feel like
Speaker 1: that's that's a potential good recipe for this team to
Speaker 1: end up maybe find finding a way into the tournament
Speaker 1: later this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing about the tournament I feel like is
Speaker 2: the amount of good games, quality games they're gonna have
Speaker 2: to really make an impression. And it's it's in the
Speaker 2: ACC this year. They're just not gonna be that many opportunities.
Speaker 2: So they are definitely gonna have to play that kind
Speaker 2: of level game that they played against Kentucky and UH
Speaker 2: and especially in the first half against Duke. They're gonna
Speaker 2: have to play at that level in these games against Carolina, Clempson, Pitt.
Speaker 2: Those are the games that they can you know, make
Speaker 2: potentially get Quad one type wins and potentially you know,
Speaker 2: be uh, make an impression on the tournament committee when
Speaker 2: that time comes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, losing to really good teams, and you know, some
Speaker 1: of these games weren't competitive at the end, like Tennessee
Speaker 1: when they were fully healthy.
Speaker 3: That was ugly.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the Old Miss game was was really ugly. The
Speaker 1: Doe game was closer, but you're still lost by love.
Speaker 1: And like I'm starting to think and I don't know
Speaker 1: enough about how these formulas work, like the net you know,
Speaker 1: ken palm and whatnot, but clearly there's an emphasis on
Speaker 1: not just beating a team or you know, covering the
Speaker 1: leged spread, but you know, making sure that that at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the formula, you know, does
Speaker 1: give you value. You know, Louisville losing to some of
Speaker 1: these teams by a whole lot, Like it's tough to
Speaker 1: know if that's going to really it may not matter
Speaker 1: at all because maybe they just aren't quite a tournament
Speaker 1: type team, but like I feel like that's one of
Speaker 1: those things that may come back to haunt them.
Speaker 2: That's a good point, Nick, And I'm not sure to
Speaker 2: answer your question, I'm not sure what how much margin
Speaker 2: of lost or margin of victory as whichever side you're
Speaker 2: looking at it from, how much that will come into
Speaker 2: play during those the way the networks and everything like that.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I do think the committee also, besides
Speaker 2: the numbers, can look at it plainly, like they lost
Speaker 2: to Tennessee. Tennessee is a number one team in the
Speaker 2: nation right now. They lost to an Old miss team
Speaker 2: this rank. They lost to a duke team this rank.
Speaker 2: They're they're losing to good teams. They're losing the Oklahoma's
Speaker 2: rank and are they still unbeaten? They were unbeaten, Oklahoma
Speaker 2: still unbeaten?
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, let me check, So, just had it pulled
Speaker 3: up here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this Oklahoma team currently is ten and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and they just knocked off Oklahoma State, so yeah, they've Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're still undefeated. Tennessee's undefeated. I mean Louis's, Louisville's I
Speaker 1: just referenced this earlier. Dana Brown put it out yesterday.
Speaker 1: Louisville's teams they've lost to are combined forty seven and
Speaker 1: four overall. So and you know, they you can and
Speaker 1: you can find some different formulas out there that tell
Speaker 1: you the adjusted offensive tempo, that kind of stuff, efficiency
Speaker 1: ratings that.
Speaker 3: They've played a really really good.
Speaker 1: Schedule when it comes to teams that's just hard to guard,
Speaker 1: and they've also played teams that are pretty good defensively,
Speaker 1: like Tennessee and Old Miss that can really just kind
Speaker 1: of lock you down to Duke is actually a really
Speaker 1: good defensive team this year when it comes to the numbers.
Speaker 1: So I guess, you know, for me, I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to find BA you know, what real value is there
Speaker 1: when you play a team are really competitive or maybe
Speaker 1: just during stretches it's competitive, Like it's tough to know
Speaker 1: how much value is actually there. With Florida State coming up,
Speaker 1: that's not like a signature win, but they're having a
Speaker 1: better season. This will be the first kind of team
Speaker 1: they've played in that range since they've been this new
Speaker 1: version of Louisville where they really only play seven guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of feel like this game is
Speaker 1: not going to tell us a whole lot if they win.
Speaker 1: But I kind of feel like if you go there
Speaker 1: and it falls flat, it doesn't mean the season's over.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even really mean that you're for sure out
Speaker 1: of the tournament. But I think that would be a
Speaker 1: pretty you know, you couldn't claim well, what are you
Speaker 1: going to do? We played Florida State because they're clearly
Speaker 1: not Kentucky at rup or Duke at home or Old
Speaker 1: Miss coming on off of a.
Speaker 3: Three day trip.
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious on your thoughts because I feel
Speaker 1: like this is, in a weird way, kind of a
Speaker 1: big test for both these teams on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not I wouldn't put it up
Speaker 2: there like being a possible marquee victory, but I do
Speaker 2: think a road game in conference, that's another team that's
Speaker 2: gonna be I think Florida State, n c State, those
Speaker 2: kind of teams are gonna be kind of right there
Speaker 2: in the middle and right there in the mix, and
Speaker 2: one of those teams I think is gonna emerge with
Speaker 2: the chance to get into the NCAA Tournament depending on
Speaker 2: just how the rest of the schedule shakes out for everybody.
Speaker 2: So it's important to get those kind of wins. I
Speaker 2: think this is gonna be a big test. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, Leonard Hammelton team always have a lot of
Speaker 2: size and length, which obviously this Louisville team does not
Speaker 2: have that. So I think it's gonna be a big challenge,
Speaker 2: you know, they like to switch a lot on defense.
Speaker 2: It's it would be a valuable win, I think, to
Speaker 2: go down there and get that game. So it's it's
Speaker 2: really to me, it's the first kind of test of
Speaker 2: a team on even ground in conference.
Speaker 3: No doubt.
Speaker 1: I mean, the UTEP game was kind of smashed in
Speaker 1: the middle where they're not a terrible team, but certainly
Speaker 1: much different than the opponents you had played since you,
Speaker 1: you know, since you got back from the Bahamas. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I it's tough to know what you're really gonna be
Speaker 1: able to make of it after the fact. But I'm
Speaker 1: eager to see this team play a team that you
Speaker 1: know they could lose to, certainly, but I feel like
Speaker 1: if they are if the value that I believe is
Speaker 1: there despite some of these losses to good teams, and
Speaker 1: then I think they, you know, hopefully they can't take
Speaker 1: care of business. But let me ask before we move
Speaker 1: on to Kentucky, what do.
Speaker 3: You what do you know?
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's nothing, just maybe you could give me
Speaker 1: a guess. Why can't Big Frank get minutes? Like I
Speaker 1: don't think he can do a whole lot for you
Speaker 1: as far as like you you run offense, the room
Speaker 1: or you know, anything like that. But like I'm surprised
Speaker 1: with them being ast is they are on the post
Speaker 1: that he can't give them just like some spot minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's puzzling, you know, looking at how the
Speaker 2: foul trouble played out Saturday and rupp Arena and at
Speaker 2: a couple of points, I was looking at his events
Speaker 2: just to see, okays he even like, you know, getting
Speaker 2: looked at. Is he getting up? Is he gonna get
Speaker 2: some run? I think what I mean, what it comes
Speaker 2: down to is the level of trust, you know. I
Speaker 2: mean a coach has to has to trust players on
Speaker 2: a certain level to put him in, especially on a
Speaker 2: road in a road game, in a situation like that,
Speaker 2: in a rivalry game where it's gonna be intense and
Speaker 2: every possession matters, and and I just assume that, you know,
Speaker 2: he hasn't gained that level of trust yet with with
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey. We saw him play a little bit against UTEP.
Speaker 2: From that game, I kind of felt like, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is the thing or not, but
Speaker 2: it just seemed like he was a bit out of sync,
Speaker 2: like like he didn't necessarily know where he was supposed
Speaker 2: to be, especially offensively a couple of times when I
Speaker 2: observed him, and I could be off on that, but
Speaker 2: it's something is off clearly because he's not in the
Speaker 2: rotation and they could really use another front court player.
Speaker 2: So I feel like that's.
Speaker 3: Something to keep an eye on, ye, just a body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, certainly. Because it's been that way so far
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it has to stay that way.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It could just be a matter of if he's made
Speaker 2: a slower transition to getting used and getting acclimated to
Speaker 2: Pat Chelsea's system. So I do think that Kenni Roops
Speaker 2: is coming on and by the end of the season
Speaker 2: he could be a really a really good player and
Speaker 2: a really key reserve in terms of the front court.
Speaker 2: But you know, it would be it'd always be helpful
Speaker 2: to have another body.
Speaker 3: In there too, especially with foul trouble. I mean, to
Speaker 3: give up fouls.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel, you know, you're right as
Speaker 1: far as kind of just not looking totally comfortable on
Speaker 1: offense when he was in the game against utub But
Speaker 1: I mean, there's things he could provide that really don't
Speaker 1: take any ability and skill. It's just like, hey, don't
Speaker 1: you know, don't be a liability. Defensively, give us some
Speaker 1: presents a body, maybe give a foul or two if
Speaker 1: need be, and I mean set a screen. I just
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, for what they could there's
Speaker 1: some there's some things they could get there that even
Speaker 1: if he is maybe a terrible player. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that Pat thinks that, and he would never say that
Speaker 1: at all, but yeah, I just feel like there should
Speaker 1: be there should he should be getting more minutes than
Speaker 1: what he's getting up to this point. All right, one
Speaker 1: more on Louisville Lote lied you mentioned can I uh
Speaker 1: what is what I mean? I feel like he should
Speaker 1: play every minute just because I don't think he's that
Speaker 1: big of a I mean, I don't think he makes
Speaker 1: many more mistakes than other guys out there in the
Speaker 1: front court. And I think the more reps he gets,
Speaker 1: the better you'll be in the end of this season.
Speaker 1: And at times he helps you like he was. I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought he really looked good against Duke, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's still he's playing.
Speaker 3: He's one of the seven guys.
Speaker 1: But like, I just feel like there's been a little
Speaker 1: bit of a hesitation to kind of just let him loose.
Speaker 1: And I'm just curious if you've made that observation, and
Speaker 1: then if you think there's one thing specifically that's keeping
Speaker 1: him from getting more minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if there's one thing, but I think
Speaker 2: it is just kind of one of those freshmen deal
Speaker 2: where he hasn't played enough and gotten enough reps in
Speaker 2: this system to where he can get the keys to
Speaker 2: the car. I think that's essentially just what it comes
Speaker 2: down to.
Speaker 1: Time.
Speaker 2: The more time he gets, the more time he puts in,
Speaker 2: including in practice and everything, the better. The more Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey is gonna trust to put him out there, and
Speaker 2: the more we will actually see him.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 2: I think his upside is probably higher than James Scott's.
Speaker 2: And I mean, if Waterman can't get his three point
Speaker 2: shooting more consistent moving forward, I think he even might
Speaker 2: present a better the better option out.
Speaker 3: There than Waterman, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: I definitely think he's somebody to keep an eye on
Speaker 2: because I've been impressed with It's how he's played, you know,
Speaker 2: in these last three four games, and I think he's
Speaker 2: you know, I think the sky is the limit for
Speaker 2: him eventually.
Speaker 3: Same here.
Speaker 1: Seal Brown of The Curry Journal is our guest joining
Speaker 1: us here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Kentucky obviously
Speaker 1: played really well against against Louisville and Lamont, Butler had
Speaker 1: a game that he'll not probably never have again.
Speaker 3: I mean, what a performance from him.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll ask you the same question I asked
Speaker 1: last week and see if you've got any updated thoughts.
Speaker 1: Doing it against Louisville doesn't necessarily, you know, make them
Speaker 1: any more impressive now than they already were. They had
Speaker 1: wins against Duke and against Gonzaga. But the more I
Speaker 1: watch this Kentucky team, I mean, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: they are not They're not you know, if everybody's at
Speaker 1: their best, I'm not sure they're in that top tier.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Mark Pope has a really really
Speaker 1: good team in his first season that I wouldn't be shocked, if,
Speaker 1: you know, if they end up getting a really good seed.
Speaker 1: I know the SEC is really really tough, but I've
Speaker 1: been I've been really impressed with Kentucky so far this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm right there with you. I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: expected him to be ten and one at this point
Speaker 2: in the season. If you have me back in August,
Speaker 2: you know, had a lot of questions just on how
Speaker 2: quickly guys are going to get acclimated to their new
Speaker 2: roles and each other and playing within that system. And
Speaker 2: it seems all of that has happened almost flawlessly. I mean,
Speaker 2: I really don't see any hiccups with what they with
Speaker 2: what Mark Pope is instilled in what they've been trying
Speaker 2: to do, and and they've been tested. I mean that
Speaker 2: that road when I mean technically it was a neutral
Speaker 2: court in Seattle, but playing against Gonzaga that was that
Speaker 2: was a very impressive win. And I mean to be
Speaker 2: playing so late at night in terms of East Coast
Speaker 2: time and what their body clocks are normal, what's normal
Speaker 2: to their body clocks, and to have to come back
Speaker 2: from down double digits when it seemed like, you know,
Speaker 2: I think I said on last week's show, I dozed off.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, for me, it was a nightmare.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But I mean that that showed a lot of art.
Speaker 2: That showed a lot of resilience, and I think they're
Speaker 2: growing in confidence in what they can do. You know,
Speaker 2: I think there might have been a little doubt early
Speaker 2: on just in terms of like how good are we really,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And that moment can make you a lot better as
Speaker 1: a team. I mean, that's kind of a you know,
Speaker 1: to say that it's like a defining moment. I guess
Speaker 1: it'll end up, you know, you have to wait and
Speaker 1: see sort of how everything plays out. But like that,
Speaker 1: that told them a lot about themselves, and I think
Speaker 1: it's actually one of the more impressive wins we've seen
Speaker 1: in college basketball this season. Not to say Gonzaga is just,
Speaker 1: you know, completely unbeatable, but you know, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: that was a road game and in their environment, different
Speaker 1: time zone.
Speaker 3: All that stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they've they've gotten off to such a such
Speaker 1: a good start. What do you make of the rivalry
Speaker 1: when it comes to just the new ara here, two
Speaker 1: new coaches. I think both fans kind of had this
Speaker 1: itch they couldn't get rid of because they found themselves
Speaker 1: liking the opposing coach. But they felt weird about it
Speaker 1: because I mean, I think both these guys are are
Speaker 1: what you see is what you get. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's going to be any real animosity. I think they
Speaker 1: genuinely respect one another, and and and the guys who
Speaker 1: play in the rivalry are going to carry themselves.
Speaker 3: I think for the most part the way their coach
Speaker 3: wants him to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that little dust up near Louisville's bench,
Speaker 1: I mean it never really escalated to where they needed
Speaker 1: to call anything else, and I you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of a good not a good moment for the
Speaker 1: rivalry necessarily, but like you know, tensions are high because
Speaker 1: of it being a rivalry, but you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Just to me, it's kind of weird, like I'm going
Speaker 1: to have a hard time like disliking Mark Pope and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to dislike him and I want him.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to tell you he's a bum,
Speaker 1: but I think he's actually a really good coach and
Speaker 1: a really likable guy.
Speaker 2: Well I think that that's That's kind of what I
Speaker 2: wrote about from Saturday's game was that the the spiciness,
Speaker 2: the heat in the rivalry was kind of missing. To me.
Speaker 2: There was no polite, right, there was no Yeah, you
Speaker 2: didn't feel any contentiousness from the teams and from the players.
Speaker 2: But that'll happen. I think we'll get back to that.
Speaker 2: And I'm not obviously I'm not advocating for fighting or
Speaker 2: anything stupid or outside the lines, but just just that
Speaker 2: you know what what makes a rivalry special and what
Speaker 2: makes a rivalry, you know what makes you look forward
Speaker 2: to My little girls crying right.
Speaker 1: Now, But she's upset about the rivalry too. She wants
Speaker 1: she wants more anger, she.
Speaker 2: Wants to see it, she wants to see it. So
Speaker 2: what what.
Speaker 3: This is my life? Trust me, I'm one.
Speaker 2: As players get to play in this game a few
Speaker 2: times and know each other and and maybe not even
Speaker 2: like each other. I mean, I think really if if
Speaker 2: Kerr and Prior playing that game for for you can't
Speaker 2: have respectively, I think there might have been a little
Speaker 2: bit more. It's because I I would assume UK fans
Speaker 2: Prior would be the kind of player they love to hate.
Speaker 1: So yeah, in the in the in the moment, I
Speaker 1: didn't realize it. I mean I knew it was it
Speaker 1: was next level. But there's no scenario there's ever any
Speaker 1: two coaches in this rivalry that give that give us
Speaker 1: what Patino and Calipari did just because they had I
Speaker 1: feel like a personal rivalry within each other, maybe with
Speaker 1: not a robbery. They just didn't like each other and
Speaker 1: it was really hard for them to, you know, hide that,
Speaker 1: and it was almost deeper than the ufl UK fans
Speaker 1: coming at each other like that was. That was an
Speaker 1: era that like I'll be able to say that I was.
Speaker 1: I experienced it, and it was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was intense.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know that we will duplicate that again,
Speaker 2: and you know, and thinking of just what those coaches
Speaker 2: have accomplished and everything, like I think all of that
Speaker 2: goes into it, that would be hard to replicate. But
Speaker 2: the way that Pope and Kelsey have started out, you know,
Speaker 2: there there're gonna be some high stakes games I feel
Speaker 2: like in this rivalry's future, including you know, those kind
Speaker 2: of games that are that are in the tournament and
Speaker 2: determine somebody's getting knocked out and determined who's going forward
Speaker 2: and have a chance of winning the championships. So that's
Speaker 2: that's what I'd say I'd look forward to with this
Speaker 2: rivalry moving forward.
Speaker 1: Cel, you are the man is always appreciate the time,
Speaker 1: and uh, if I don't talk to you before Christmas,
Speaker 1: have a happy holiday, my man.
Speaker 2: You as well appreciation that.
Speaker 3: Take care that.
Speaker 1: Cel Brown of the Courier Journal, Yeah, he wrote a
Speaker 1: really good piece on the rivalry being a little too polite,
Speaker 1: which I you know, I h you can't force it though,
Speaker 1: Like that's one of the things that I thought about
Speaker 1: after the fact because I'm thinking he's right. You know
Speaker 1: what this is that we don't need to be so like,
Speaker 1: you know, because then this is how you know, the
Speaker 1: two guys are really likable to a lot of the
Speaker 1: fans on the other side, is that it's one thing
Speaker 1: to like find them to be kind of like not
Speaker 1: hateable or dare I say likable, but like when you
Speaker 1: have like the uncontrollable urge to kind of just put
Speaker 1: it out there and just say it, like I gotta
Speaker 1: say it. I kind of like Mark Pope, I don't
Speaker 1: want him to win, but like he's you know, that's
Speaker 1: where you know, it's just kind of you know, it's
Speaker 1: not normal.
Speaker 3: But again, you can't force it. And Seel's probably right at.
Speaker 1: Some point they'll be because we make everything way more
Speaker 1: than it is when it comes to the Robberry So
Speaker 1: one of them will give, one of them will give
Speaker 1: something that gives us the chance to, you know, really
Speaker 1: get back into being toxic and nasty and lunatics, because
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's.
Speaker 3: What Robbalries are all about.
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Speaker 1: You know, we are still relatively in the early part
Speaker 1: of this. Well, put it this way, college sports has
Speaker 1: been around a lot longer with no nil and no
Speaker 1: portal than it has with it, So it's it's been
Speaker 1: such a constant thing that it doesn't really feel new.
Speaker 1: But in the grand scheme of things, it's still very
Speaker 1: much new as far as players being able to go
Speaker 1: wherever they want, whenever they want, and of course you
Speaker 1: having to pay to get them to come to play
Speaker 1: for you. So this makes total sense. But when I
Speaker 1: see guys in the portal, I just instantly think, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they lost a really good player. He's going to be really,
Speaker 1: really attractive to many schools. But maybe not most of
Speaker 1: the times, but at least sometimes. And there's been some
Speaker 1: examples of it today like Bama. You know, they had
Speaker 1: two guys that have entered the portal that have now
Speaker 1: decided to come out of the portal. And it's really
Speaker 1: just a tactic to show that you will, like, hey,
Speaker 1: come correct with the with the bag or I'm out
Speaker 1: of here. And by actually going through the process of
Speaker 1: entering the portal and you know, talking to other teams,
Speaker 1: then that, I mean, that makes it clear that like
Speaker 1: either they can they can come correct in your mind
Speaker 1: as a player, or they can just try to move
Speaker 1: on without you. And I'm curious how many players do
Speaker 1: that with the hope of like, all right, well, I'll
Speaker 1: show them, Hey, this is a negotiation, this is how
Speaker 1: it works. I'm willing to leave. Let's see what they do.
Speaker 1: Because there's some guys who probably enter the portal hoping
Speaker 1: the phone rings for like two schools, and then if
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, maybe they're like, all right, I'm coming back.
Speaker 1: But yes, I would. I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I would do if I was in their shoes. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would probably think about what's best for me, because
Speaker 1: you know, that's what most people do and that's what
Speaker 1: they should do.
Speaker 3: They have every right to do that.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just thinking about Jamar Johnson because
Speaker 1: to me, he's the one guy that has hit the
Speaker 1: portal really in the portal air for Louisville I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I think that guy is gonna be really really good elsewhere,
Speaker 1: and he just wanted to leave. It wasn't It wasn't
Speaker 1: about playing time or opportunity or the offense. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was about money, But I think Louisville probably would have
Speaker 1: been pretty pretty competitive with what they'd pay for him,
Speaker 1: because I know they really value him. But you know,
Speaker 1: nobody's got unlimited money. Therefore, you do have to make
Speaker 1: some decisions. So if it was financially an issue for
Speaker 1: Louisville or where they just couldn't couldn't meet him where he
Speaker 1: wanted to be paid, then you know you got to
Speaker 1: you got to make that decision and live with it.
Speaker 1: But again, as I mentioned earlier, if you're losing a
Speaker 1: really good tight end in Jamari Johnson, it's nice to
Speaker 1: know that you can go to the portal and get
Speaker 1: a visit from the number one un tight end in
Speaker 1: the portal at that position. That's Max Clayer, who's visiting
Speaker 1: Louisville today. According to Jody Dimmling, six four to it
Speaker 1: and forty pound tight end who was very productive for
Speaker 1: a bad Purdue team last year but obviously clearly a
Speaker 1: bright spot for their offense. And again, as I've said,
Speaker 1: when it comes to offensive skill position players, tight end, receiver,
Speaker 1: running back, quarterback, I'm gonna trust Jeff Brohm to evaluate talent.
Speaker 1: And you know, if he brought in a guy that
Speaker 1: you knew was going to be facing like a big role,
Speaker 1: very important and like he's stunk where he was previously,
Speaker 1: then maybe some red flags would pop would pop up.
Speaker 3: But so far, so good.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Jeff bringing in players each and
Speaker 1: every year, and it's gonna be you know, louis is
Speaker 1: not alone. But as I've said for a while, I
Speaker 1: think Louisville will in fact be one of these schools
Speaker 1: that ends up on the higher side in that top tier.
Speaker 1: Maybe not as far as how your class is viewed,
Speaker 1: did you go out and get a really good class,
Speaker 1: but the amount of people that come in to your
Speaker 1: team every year from the portal. I think Louisville will
Speaker 1: will probably remain on the high side because so far,
Speaker 1: I think it's worked pretty effectively for Jeff Brawman. He's
Speaker 1: clearly comfortable doing this. Some coaches aren't comfortable at all
Speaker 1: because it's just it's not their style. They you know,
Speaker 1: they just they don't like it, and I think with Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he probably you know, preferred it the other
Speaker 1: way around, because one it was it was a little
Speaker 1: less hectic, and you know, you kind of know what
Speaker 1: you have every year for the most part. But he's
Speaker 1: done a good job of just knowing, hey, this is
Speaker 1: what it is now, there's no changing it. So I
Speaker 1: just got to adapt. And again, so far, so far,
Speaker 1: so good. All right, this is this is a story
Speaker 1: that I feel like is not getting the amount of
Speaker 1: attention as as I would have expected it to get.
Speaker 1: You've got Mike Gundy and Mike Norvell, two known coaches
Speaker 1: here in college football, probably two guys that are both
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen, maybe top ten as far as
Speaker 1: highest paid coach. I don't know what Gundy makes, but
Speaker 1: I know he's well paid at Oklahoma State. But both
Speaker 1: of these guys have decided to give up some of
Speaker 1: their salary and it's really a gift. Like you know,
Speaker 1: some people think, well, hey, the should give up more
Speaker 1: than that because they didn't win enough games last year,
Speaker 1: but like contract exists for a reason, Like nobody made
Speaker 1: these guys do this. And for those who think, like, well,
Speaker 1: they must have forced their hand, maybe with gundhy Or.
Speaker 1: Remember there was some talk that if he didn't do
Speaker 1: this then they would fire him with cause. But like
Speaker 1: Mike Norvell, I mean, he could say, all right, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. I signed a contract.
Speaker 1: I'm entitled to what we agreed upon, so you got
Speaker 1: to do what you got to do. Do it. And
Speaker 1: if they fire him, they owe him every bit of
Speaker 1: money that's on the contract, right is buyouts humongous, So
Speaker 1: like it is, these guys, I mean, these guys don't
Speaker 1: have to do it, but they are. And you know,
Speaker 1: they're clearly not going to miss a mortgage payment because
Speaker 1: they've made some slight adjustments to their contract. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's still, I think, something that I never thought we'd see.
Speaker 1: But I also didn't never see college sports looking like this,
Speaker 1: where money to go pay for players is such an
Speaker 1: important thing. So let me see if I can get
Speaker 1: the specifics here Mike Norvell's four and a half point
Speaker 1: million dollar contribution.
Speaker 2: To the.
Speaker 1: Let's see here Florida state they're calling the fund. I'm
Speaker 1: reading directly from USA Today. It says, well, I hate
Speaker 1: USA Today's website. You click outside of like one thing
Speaker 1: and it takes you to their homepage every time. Anyways,
Speaker 1: it says Flida State. They're calling the fundraising campaign a
Speaker 1: vision of excellence. But coach Mike Norvell's four point five
Speaker 1: million dollar contribution of the initiative comes off as a penalty.
Speaker 3: For I don't even know what that word is.
Speaker 1: And then Mike Gundhy he agreed to a reduced compensation
Speaker 1: or guess he came Yeah, he came to an agreement
Speaker 1: as far as reducing his compensation to retain his jobs.
Speaker 1: So I guess that was the I guess with Gundy
Speaker 1: it was more so like, look, we'll either try to
Speaker 1: fire you with cause or maybe buy you out. Do
Speaker 1: you still want to be here? If so, we want you,
Speaker 1: but you got to make some adjustment. So either way,
Speaker 1: it reminded me of when it didn't used to be allowed,
Speaker 1: Like you weren't allowed as a coach to pay any
Speaker 1: money towards a collective.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure there are still some.
Speaker 1: Gray areas to where, like, you know, you can't just
Speaker 1: take money out of your pocket and give it to
Speaker 1: a player. I mean, although if you did, nobody'd probably
Speaker 1: find out, and like maybe you wouldn't even Like, how
Speaker 1: do you enforce that. But my point is it used
Speaker 1: to be in the early early days of this to
Speaker 1: where coaches couldn't couldn't have anything to do with it
Speaker 1: at all. And now they're allowed to donate their own
Speaker 1: money or reduce their compensation and have it go directly
Speaker 1: towards in an il collective or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: And the fact that these two guys are doing it,
Speaker 1: especially Mike Norvel, like Mike Norvell didn't have to do this,
Speaker 1: Like Mike Norvell is somebody that I think deserves a
Speaker 1: little bit more praise for this than Gundhy. I mean
Speaker 1: with Gundhy again, it sounds more so that like his
Speaker 1: hand was was was forced. But I won't be shocked
Speaker 1: if you see other coaches do this because what it
Speaker 1: is is it's an investment in the It's basically you
Speaker 1: gambling on yourself, right because if you know that you
Speaker 1: taking less money, well, it's it's a sign of good
Speaker 1: faith to your employer that you're willing to, you know,
Speaker 1: do that when you you don't have to.
Speaker 3: In the end, Mike Novella is helping Florida.
Speaker 1: State out, but he's also helping himself out because again,
Speaker 1: if things are going better for the football program. That's
Speaker 1: good for the university, and you know what, that's good
Speaker 1: for Mike Norvell as a coach and as a person.
Speaker 1: So if in fact, Mike Norvell's decision to give up
Speaker 1: some of his money ends up really paying off in
Speaker 1: Florida State is role And let's just say Florida State
Speaker 1: in the next three years is back in the playoff
Speaker 1: twice and they win a national championship. I don't think
Speaker 1: that will happen, but like if it did, you know,
Speaker 1: Mike Norvella is gonna want a new contract, and you
Speaker 1: know he's gonna bring up the fact that he gave
Speaker 1: back some money the last time around to make it happen.
Speaker 1: So no coach is gonna be required to And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame a single one if they chose not to,
Speaker 1: because again, you have a contract for a reason. You
Speaker 1: would just be giving you'd be doing a gift for
Speaker 1: your employer. How many of you guys out there are
Speaker 1: gonna be nice to your boss? Hey, you know what, didn't.
Speaker 3: Have a great year, You keep keep ten percent of
Speaker 3: my salary? Like nobody's doing that.
Speaker 1: Again, I know it's not super relatable because you know
Speaker 1: they can be terrible as coaches and still get every
Speaker 1: dime and they make a lot more money than the
Speaker 1: average the average citizen, but still like it is a
Speaker 1: job to them, and they're not entitled to do it.
Speaker 3: These schools are their employer, like your employer is your employer.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just curious to see if other
Speaker 1: guys end up doing it, And I know coaches are
Speaker 1: going to be asked about it and how they answer
Speaker 1: is going to be interesting.
Speaker 3: Like Mark Pope, I don't know if you guys remember
Speaker 3: this or not.
Speaker 1: He used to say that if I would, I could,
Speaker 1: because he knew how important it is to raise money.
Speaker 1: And before he did the whole pony up thing and
Speaker 1: put his foot in his mouth, he you know, he was,
Speaker 1: and he's all that was really a rare thing for him,
Speaker 1: Like more often than not, he's usually pretty pretty polished
Speaker 1: when it comes to like saying things and understanding fans.
Speaker 1: May you know, fans are going to be really paying
Speaker 1: close attention to this answer to this question and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But if in fact their nil money is not ever
Speaker 1: in the right place, like can he still say pony
Speaker 1: up now? If I would? Because that was clearly a
Speaker 1: stupid thing to say. Anyway, he did say before the
Speaker 1: season ended that they've never been in a better position
Speaker 1: when it comes to Nile money. But if in fact
Speaker 1: he ever mentioned needing money, like if he's ever out there,
Speaker 1: whether it be a tweet or if he's campaigning at
Speaker 1: an event, at a press conference, at his radio show,
Speaker 1: urging fans to to support because it's much needed when
Speaker 1: it comes to nil, I mean you're walking into them saying, oh, well, great, Coach,
Speaker 1: now you can pony up. You told us that you
Speaker 1: would give money, but it wouldn't allow. Well now it is,
Speaker 1: so now it's your turn to pony up.
Speaker 3: You ready?
Speaker 1: Like again, Like, maybe he does do it because he
Speaker 1: probably doesn't need money and he realizes one this will
Speaker 1: be a sign of good faith to my fan base
Speaker 1: that I'm willing to, you know, sacrifice some of the
Speaker 1: millions that I make to try to turn this thing around.
Speaker 1: But like, I have a hard time thinking he would
Speaker 1: do that because like most people wouldn't. So two things
Speaker 1: we never thought we'd see. Coach is just deciding to
Speaker 1: just give money back and news that shocked me. Yesterday
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney went to the portal, did you see this,
Speaker 1: Austin Dabo Sweeney has signed his first player from the
Speaker 1: transfer portal. Is he's finally caved. First, he went from
Speaker 1: telling us that the day that players get paid is
Speaker 1: the day he'll.
Speaker 3: Leave for the NFL. Well he didn't.
Speaker 1: He lied, and you know, he told us his transfer
Speaker 1: portals right there in that locker room, and you know
Speaker 1: made some kind of I mean, what was the comed
Speaker 1: He said something about like some kind of Jesus Christ
Speaker 1: thing when it comes to like the portal.
Speaker 6: The name and image and likeness under Jesus or something
Speaker 6: like just sure this portal isn't just like a church,
Speaker 6: and went.
Speaker 1: Well, the guy he landed is a wide receiver who
Speaker 1: is transferring from Southeast Missouri State, which is an FCS school.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe God was telling Dabo that this young
Speaker 1: man is is going to bring a great energy and
Speaker 1: a great spirit to your locker room. And Jesus christol
Speaker 1: would would want this, and he is our Lord and Savior,
Speaker 1: and we're we're gonna welcome this young man just like
Speaker 1: you welcome anybody to your church with open arms, right like,
Speaker 1: in fact, it's not very church like, Dabo, is that
Speaker 1: a word?
Speaker 3: Church like?
Speaker 6: Church?
Speaker 1: Like? Yeah, I mean it's not I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say it's not very Christian, because that could
Speaker 1: be you know, I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 1: to offend anybody. But like I know, any time I've
Speaker 1: ever been to any church, more often than not, I
Speaker 1: was a guest because I don't I mean, I'm Catholic.
Speaker 1: I go to Mass every now and then, but like
Speaker 1: you know, I've gone to other churches too, with family
Speaker 1: and friends and whatnot, and and it's been great. But
Speaker 1: like they're very, very welcoming. They don't they probably know
Speaker 1: I'm not a regular. They probably know I'm not maybe
Speaker 1: that same religion, because you know, they don't recognize me.
Speaker 1: But yet they're welcoming Debo not letting anybody into his church,
Speaker 1: meaning Clemson. That's that's I mean, I think that's a hypocrite.
Speaker 1: But now maybe he's realized his hypocritic ways and he's
Speaker 1: now welcoming in players from the portal.
Speaker 6: So I wonder if Jesus can run a good cover too.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's nothing he can't do.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, he'd be the best player of all
Speaker 1: time in any sport if he chose to play. But
Speaker 1: he's got bigger things to worry about than sports. He
Speaker 1: lets that he leaves that to the athletes out there,
Speaker 1: not that he's not an athlete himself.
Speaker 3: I heard j C can do it a little bit
Speaker 3: of everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, utility guy, very unselfish team player, exactly exactly. All right,
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Speaker 7: So far, so good for Teddy Bridgewater as a head coach.
Speaker 7: In his first year as the head coach of his
Speaker 7: alma mater down there in Miami, Miami Northwestern High School,
Speaker 7: he won a state championship, and I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 7: if he's coaching at the college level at some point.
Speaker 7: I know there was some former NFL players I can't
Speaker 7: think of who it was, that had gone to an
Speaker 7: HBCU that has an opening, and they were advocating that
Speaker 7: they hope Teddy gets a look, which that be a
Speaker 7: little bit, you know, a little bit early, considering he's
Speaker 7: only been away from the NFL for one season and
Speaker 7: only coached in high school. But guy's pretty good at
Speaker 7: whatever he wants to do, it seems and good leader
Speaker 7: guy that really was not vocal as a player here,
Speaker 7: but you could tell he had a command of that
Speaker 7: that offense and led by example and clearly developed some
Speaker 7: good leadership skills more so than just.
Speaker 1: Acting at out. Meaning you know, he was a guy
Speaker 1: in a lot. I mean, you're a Vikings fan, you
Speaker 1: can tell like he he was beloved up there, not
Speaker 1: only by fans, because you know, Teddy's a pretty likable
Speaker 1: guy anyway, a lot of charisma and you know, with
Speaker 1: the locker room like they loved him, and he's very
Speaker 1: well respected by every NFL player.
Speaker 3: It seems like he played either with or against.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike, Mike Zimmer actually loved him. And he's a
Speaker 6: he's a he's a he's a defensive guy at heart,
Speaker 6: so he hates quarterbacks, but he he he loved Teddy
Speaker 6: Bridgewater and it seemed like I've never even been to Minnesota,
Speaker 6: so that's funny being a fan, but it seemed like
Speaker 6: they welcomed him with open arms there and he's just
Speaker 6: he's probably one of my favorite players ever. I just
Speaker 6: love watching him play. He's a straight up baller and
Speaker 6: they were ready to hand the keys to the whole
Speaker 6: city of Minnesota to him, but then, of course an
Speaker 6: unfortunate injury that just kind of derailed everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know Louisville fans, of course, will always
Speaker 1: think of Teddy for his time here and whatnot, and
Speaker 1: he's one of the more beloved Louisville players of all time.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think honestly down the line, he'll
Speaker 1: be remembered like by you know, NFL fans, they don't
Speaker 1: even really think of Louisville as a journeyman, but also
Speaker 1: a guy that you thought for sure would never play again,
Speaker 1: and then you know he did.
Speaker 3: He was able to get back, and.
Speaker 1: You know, it was never he never was able to
Speaker 1: sort of latch on as somebody's full time starter where
Speaker 1: it felt like, Okay, this is our franchise quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: it did his best the best scenario for him when
Speaker 1: he was backing up Drew Brees. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: Teddy literally changed his financial status for the rest of
Speaker 1: his life when he decided to not you know, re
Speaker 1: sign with the Saints and just wait for Breeze to
Speaker 1: hang it up, Because I do think it might have
Speaker 1: worked out had he done that, because that I mean.
Speaker 3: He's the guy that you plug and play.
Speaker 1: He's good enough to where you can win at a
Speaker 1: high level if you're pretty sound everywhere else. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he wasn't a bad quarterback by he means he
Speaker 1: played in the NFL for for ten years, but by
Speaker 1: him taking the bag and signing that contract with the Panthers,
Speaker 1: and we all know it didn't work out. They later
Speaker 1: traded him to Denver, but you know that was that
Speaker 1: was the biggest contract he signed in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: you know he was going to be fine, I would
Speaker 1: assume financially regardless of what deal he signed, because you know,
Speaker 1: he played in the NFL for a long time, but
Speaker 1: that was a lucrative deal. And hey that it didn't
Speaker 1: didn't work out, But I've always wondered, you know, if
Speaker 1: he did decide maybe or maybe the contract was just
Speaker 1: different to where he had another year before it was
Speaker 1: it was time for him, Like if you'd have waited
Speaker 1: one more year in New Orleans, they would have probably
Speaker 1: just handed the job to him and it might have
Speaker 1: worked out very successfully. But you know, we'll never know, yeh,
Speaker 1: because remember, well, as a coach, that's for sure. He
Speaker 1: went when Breeze got injured that year, he went five
Speaker 1: and a zero with him. So, like like you said,
Speaker 1: he just plug him play and he made himself as
Speaker 1: like a true journeyman and a very reliable backup quarterback
Speaker 1: for the tail end of his career. Yeah, there are
Speaker 1: there are a handful of guys that I think are
Speaker 1: in that in that range to where you never you
Speaker 1: never want them to be relied upon, to where you're
Speaker 1: gonna need to use their ability at QB to like
Speaker 1: beat teams, because you know that's probably not what they
Speaker 1: can do. But if you've got a good play caller,
Speaker 1: you've got a good old line, you can run the ball.
Speaker 1: These guys can, like I think in a way, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll be wrong here, like brock Purty is a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: But brock Purty's best strength is that he knows who
Speaker 1: he is and he doesn't try to veer away from that,
Speaker 1: and he's consistent. That's what makes you know. He has
Speaker 1: bad games, but that I think that's what makes him
Speaker 1: stand out. I wouldn't put Gardner Minshew in that category
Speaker 1: because he makes he makes some silly mistakes at times,
Speaker 1: but he's also somebody that like, if he did limit
Speaker 1: those mistakes and he was in a system that was
Speaker 1: already pretty well set up everywhere else but quarterback, Like,
Speaker 1: I think you could you could get by with him
Speaker 1: and probably win at a high level. Trying to think
Speaker 1: of some other guys that are kind of in that
Speaker 1: in that tier to where they're like, there are certain
Speaker 1: guys in the league that what they do is a
Speaker 1: huge factor and why their team is successful, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I thought that was Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: whenever he was at Seattle, like he was with a
Speaker 1: really he had a really good defense, They could run
Speaker 1: the ball very effectively with Marshawn Lynch, and you know,
Speaker 1: they were pretty good everywhere else. And then you know
Speaker 1: he'd kind of had to do it all, you know,
Speaker 1: didn't He was doing well statistically at the end of
Speaker 1: this time in Seattle, but you know, they weren't winning.
Speaker 1: He goes to Denver and it is wild because Russell
Speaker 1: has done pretty well. They came up. You know, they
Speaker 1: didn't have a good game. The Steelers didn't play well
Speaker 1: against the Eagles the other night, but the Eagles are
Speaker 1: a really, really good team. But I kind of felt
Speaker 1: like with the way it ended with Russell Wilson in Denver,
Speaker 1: like it was a sign that things are going to
Speaker 1: be really really bad for Sean Payton in Denver. But
Speaker 1: here he is with Bo Nixon, it's been it's been
Speaker 1: a success. Yeah, so maybe they those two just didn't
Speaker 1: didn't fit together. But I am not at all surprised.
Speaker 3: And we'll see. There's a lot of football left and
Speaker 3: they haven't accomplished a whole lot just yet.
Speaker 1: But like I I the sinnate area where Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: ends up kind of emerging once again as a as
Speaker 1: a solid quarterback that you can win with for a
Speaker 1: good team in the NFL. I feel like Tomlin and
Speaker 1: and and he were a perfect match. But you know,
Speaker 1: obviously got a for for for Philadelphia or not philadep
Speaker 1: but for Pittsburgh to feel like they've got their guy
Speaker 1: moving forward for years to come, obviously they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to you know, continue to win and win in the
Speaker 1: playoffs because right now he's kind of just looked at as,
Speaker 1: you know, a journeyman again, Like it's crazy two years
Speaker 1: ago or three years ago, whenever it was he got
Speaker 1: that insane contract from Denver. Yeah, and now he's you know,
Speaker 1: he had to beat out.
Speaker 3: Who was it was? It Fields?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, actually some Fields who I think they won
Speaker 1: games with too. Yeah, So he was winning early on,
Speaker 1: and he was the guy. You know, I was kind
Speaker 1: of thinking, hey, why would you mix it up? It's
Speaker 1: already working. But I think what with what that told
Speaker 1: us was that as soon as he was healthy, meaning Wilson,
Speaker 1: they knew that they were a better team with him
Speaker 1: at quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, and and the and the way that Mike Tomlin
Speaker 6: runs sayings is the way that kind of the Steelers
Speaker 6: are built. They he just needs a quarterback that's just
Speaker 6: gonna kind of chuck downfield, like relying on defense, went
Speaker 6: on defense, And that's a guy. And Mike Tomlin's one
Speaker 6: hell of a coach.
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah. I mean I was here.
Speaker 1: I was talking to some folks, actually my cousin who
Speaker 1: I went to the Titans game. If he was telling
Speaker 1: me about the new version of Hard Knocks that features
Speaker 1: just that division. Yeah, yeah, and that like Tomlin is,
Speaker 1: like anybody who watched, I mean, I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it yet, but I feel like if
Speaker 1: you see some behind the scenes stuff as far as
Speaker 1: what he's like, how he talks to his team in
Speaker 1: the locker room like dude's just the leader. And I
Speaker 1: can see why Pittsburgh has no intention of ever making
Speaker 1: a change.
Speaker 6: There he's telling the rest to get the f out
Speaker 6: of my face? Did you see that?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: I say that, that's awesome. I love Tomlin, Love Tomlin.
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