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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, happy for Friday. Welcome to Game Spot after Dark,

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<v Speaker 1>your weekly podcast that closes out the week. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>John le Zipke, and I am joined by Curtain Avina. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and back from the dead Jacob Degger.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello. Was that a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Did I die?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that where it was? Last?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm pretty sure I dded last week's podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>The last thing was.

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<v Speaker 2>We were both like, fuck, you don't listen to podcasts,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, hey, hey missed it.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you ever know? Yeah? But you are wearing

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<v Speaker 3>all black today?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm learning jeans.

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<v Speaker 3>We could have matched.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeans blue. You guys canna be your weird dark here.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna come dressed up like Kurt, except that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be wearing all white instead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, like blue blue Watch, blue Watch.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how you know? Yeah, not green.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the real Kurt.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not the real You don't understand. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>the Kurt you think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a well, okay, it's it's it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly heavy week for video game news. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>with the Oblivion leaks was right, Yeah, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? But that has been kind of a light week.

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<v Speaker 1>For newer release, So I think we're all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for Oblivion, like oblivion.

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<v Speaker 2>If that is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the best part is like if that's even

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<v Speaker 3>real still, I know it and the website, the site

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<v Speaker 3>that for the copy of the Developer made it as

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<v Speaker 3>like four oh three, it's fucking wipe from the internet

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<v Speaker 3>after that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just don't understand why it would be coming

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<v Speaker 2>out next week as opposed to like a shadow drop

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<v Speaker 2>during Summer Game Fest, you know, Like, but isn't the

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<v Speaker 2>Elder Scrolls the anniversary. Yeah, there's like a thing that

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<v Speaker 2>ends next week and people are thinking, oh, it'll cap

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<v Speaker 2>it off, but they I feel like the I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there is a crossover between the ESO audience

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<v Speaker 2>and like the Skyrim Oblivion audience. There's probably a good crossover,

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<v Speaker 2>but is there that much crossover?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm sure there's a lot of Elder Scrolls online

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<v Speaker 3>people who may would be still ever even played Oblivion

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<v Speaker 3>because they're just sure all in an ESO maybe Skyrim

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<v Speaker 3>and this is yeah, But.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think of like it's also kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>dead week or dead like month. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bit light, but Also.

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<v Speaker 2>Microsoft just released an exclu of like two weeks ago, right, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they at midnight? And like, I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 3>just seems like, I mean, Doom's coming out next month.

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<v Speaker 2>And Doom's coming out next month. It just seems like

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<v Speaker 2>such a packed sort of quarter one for Xbox. I

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<v Speaker 2>hate saying that, but you know, they do ow every studio.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only it's only was a matter of time until

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<v Speaker 3>after buying every studio under the sun, that we have

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<v Speaker 3>four years of nothing, So that means all those studios

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<v Speaker 3>would be putting out games within months. Yeah, yeah each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And now there's more Xbox exclusives on the PS five

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<v Speaker 1>than there are PlayStation exclusives. Was't not a thing at

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<v Speaker 1>one point?

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, yeah, It's like, technically, if I understand right, Microsoft

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<v Speaker 3>technically has more of their own published titles on PlayStation

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<v Speaker 3>five than PlayStation does of their own Wow titles. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of a it's kind of like a weird

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<v Speaker 3>PlayStation is far in the league of selling more consoles

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<v Speaker 3>between you know, obviously like tens of millions more than Xboxes,

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<v Speaker 3>but who is getting the last laugh in the end.

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<v Speaker 3>In a weird way, it's still ultimately a PlayStation because

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're getting money from titles. I'm not saying that,

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<v Speaker 3>but one is more is I'm not saying it's in

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<v Speaker 3>that way. It's a competition, but it's it's very weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make the argument that Microsoft's playing the long game.

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<v Speaker 1>They're setting themselves up for the future in a much

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<v Speaker 1>better position than Sony.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of Sega just killing the Dreamcast and be like

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<v Speaker 3>a mo're fucked nature in an Xbox.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Sony made Xbox Dreamcast too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, did you see that the price of the

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<v Speaker 2>PlayStation went up fifty dollars this week? Not in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, surprisingly, but it already had a price hike

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>But like throughout the rest of the lot part, they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably still waiting to see how all the terrarif stuff

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<v Speaker 1>shakes out, and then it'll get a price hike in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. So that'll be fun. What a Remember

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<v Speaker 1>when remember when costles used to go down in price? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean but to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Exact same point.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, this is all this is killing Jake as

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry something you already have an opinion on game

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<v Speaker 3>consoles that we'll get to you soon. But to your point, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>game consoles used to go down a price, but with inflation.

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<v Speaker 3>Technically speaking, a lot of consoles back in the day

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<v Speaker 3>are just as expensive than I know they are now.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, four years in you'd get no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not saying like PlayStation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm referring to like as like the you know that

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<v Speaker 1>hard work got older, and but.

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<v Speaker 3>They would drop the price like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Redesign was always like a small price drop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, like it was not the five right,

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<v Speaker 3>the redesign was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like parts get cheaper and and they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you know, the manufacturing gets like more streamlined,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're able to like bring down the price, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you'd end up with like get the PS

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<v Speaker 1>two for ninety nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Got went with the GameCube went to nine. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get one till then. But I will never forget.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the different.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you don't know when a price drop is

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<v Speaker 3>really coming, but I did have a close friend who

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<v Speaker 3>saved up their money and for the next day one

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<v Speaker 3>that is rough.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nintendo Switch hasn't dropped in price though, has it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think it's it was three hundred, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think the allow came out, but I don't think it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think was fifty dollars more, isn't it? But the

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess the switch light was two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>instead of three hundred, but I don't think it different

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<v Speaker 2>thought the original one drop fifty dollars in price.

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<v Speaker 3>I think wrong. I'm not gonna Nintendo doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 3>that is that is That's just a Nintendo. Sure, we

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<v Speaker 3>know our value and you're still gonna buy it. Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Unlike the PlayStation two. That's an interesting conversation I have about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, PlayStation two being the most successful console of

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<v Speaker 3>all time, but having placed price drops along the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure and get the Switch is closing in on the

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<v Speaker 3>PS two and has had no price drops. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>has put out different models. Ones that are cheaper, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>so that could be a thing, but then a model

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<v Speaker 3>that is more expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know if the Switch is going to

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<v Speaker 3>live in Brazil the way that excuse probably not. All

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<v Speaker 3>the soccer games and FIFA come into it. That time

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<v Speaker 3>will tell. Yeah, oh happy birthday and Jay, thanks chat

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<v Speaker 3>hey two days ago. But you know, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>did celebrating the whole week, you know, yeah, as we do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well do watch today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not looking. I was like, wait what and then.

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<v Speaker 3>That was close. I was on Luke last week. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm glad, just a bully.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. Eventually we're just gonna detach you and push

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<v Speaker 3>you off, make my table go further in, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the camera is going to see me in a dark

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<v Speaker 3>corner over there. Any birthday, Jake Decker, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I like you just drawing over there. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>like time out and you're like detention or whatever. Throw something.

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<v Speaker 3>You just look up like, I don't care. Yeah, I'm drawing.

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<v Speaker 2>A painteris destroying a city on the desk. It wasn't nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm in detention, so you know, I gotta make

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<v Speaker 3>sure this looks like an attention desk. I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>do like the idea of like if we have a

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<v Speaker 3>guest on being like, you can car whatever the name

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever on the desk if you want be kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fun. Yeah, that's a pretty good idea. Let's destroy

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<v Speaker 3>the furniture that we had just got made. It just

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<v Speaker 3>paid for where we before we were interrupted with.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we were we were talking about consoles, which I

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<v Speaker 1>do think we'll transition into. Uh, Jake, you seem to

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<v Speaker 1>have expressed some donness with your Xbox.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pretty frustrated because I was gonna play some

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<v Speaker 2>games with friends. Usually we play Call of Duty. Hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>played it in a while, turned it on, had one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty gigabyte update, one hundred and fifty gigs

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<v Speaker 2>for a three hundred gig game. It's a whole three

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<v Speaker 2>US other games, and you know on PC that's a

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<v Speaker 2>big update. But it's fine because I have fiber and

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<v Speaker 2>something like that would download, you know, forty minutes or so,

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<v Speaker 2>probably maybe like an hour. Probably this was gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>five hours. And I don't know why. Well, I do

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<v Speaker 2>know why. It's because it's like consoles do that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why. For some reason, my speeds never match

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<v Speaker 2>my download speeds never match on console.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting to this though, because I thought this thing

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to download updates when it's asleep. In theory, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but it never does it. So we were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll play Call of Duty. Called dude a one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty gig updates, Like, well, can't play this? What

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<v Speaker 2>about Fortnite, can't play that fifty gig update. They're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how about Marvel Rivals, which I had never played before,

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<v Speaker 2>that had the smallest update, which was like twenty gigs, so,

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<v Speaker 2>but it also did an update. So we ended up

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<v Speaker 2>playing Marvel Rivals and we played two games, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this shit sucks. When I stopped playing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>logged off, I was like, I'm done. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to ever play my Xbox again. I'll probably play my

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<v Speaker 2>Xbox again, but I was incredibly frustrated, just because it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the point of this thing if I can't play

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<v Speaker 2>the goddamn game that I want to play when I

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<v Speaker 2>want to play it. Yeah, and maybe it's a call

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<v Speaker 2>of duty issue like one hundred and fifty games, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>That's ridiculous, you know, But that's emblematic of yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, here's here's a like different example that

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<v Speaker 1>was like not as big of a deal, but equally

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<v Speaker 1>just like what are we doing where uh I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have uh My wife tried Devil May Cry for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time because she really was in the anime

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<v Speaker 1>and wanted to give it a shot. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have all of them on my shelf on disc

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<v Speaker 1>and the PS four versions.

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<v Speaker 3>Pop it on.

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<v Speaker 1>The PS five should be fine. It's it's on disc,

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta update your whole PlayStation. So I gotta update

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, every time I turn on my Xbox it asked

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<v Speaker 1>So we do that and then finally like okay, it's

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<v Speaker 3>I hand the controller to Georgia and I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 3>can now play sleep. Yeah, she needs an update. My

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<v Speaker 2>It hits the.

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<v Speaker 1>Button and it goes hold on, there's one more update

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, what the fuck you just spent

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<v Speaker 3>all that time copying and what do you mean there's

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<v Speaker 3>another update?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like Xbox does where it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the game looks ready to even update the cover art,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like so you think it's updating and you

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<v Speaker 2>click and nothing happens, and that thing comes up and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like this needs an update, calculating size, and it

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<v Speaker 2>calculates size and then you see fifty gigs and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a big update. And then I click in

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like downloading one hundred and fifty gigs. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck you doing? Like, yeah, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>is driving me insane? Uh? And yeah, I mean Sony

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<v Speaker 2>does it too. Like I will say I was playing

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<v Speaker 2>Blueprints a couple of days ago and that updated while

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<v Speaker 2>it was in sleep mode, which was nice, but then

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<v Speaker 2>also only five gigs. Yeah, so I'm not it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not inconvenient. When it's like we updated while it

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<v Speaker 2>was asleep, I'm like, great, but I could have updated

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<v Speaker 2>it in like two minutes if I needed to, not worried.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I realize that, like I have

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<v Speaker 2>and they're stuck to their console, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine, Like I I in theory like my Xbox,

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<v Speaker 2>I play a lot of it mostly on my Xbox,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know that time, I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>why am I playing these games on Xbox when, especially

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<v Speaker 2>like Call of Duty and like Fortnite or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean I don't play Fortnite rarely, but like, why

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<v Speaker 2>don't I just do it on my PC? And it's

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<v Speaker 2>because I have friends who think that, uh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a friend problem is that's not those friends who refuse

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<v Speaker 2>to play with people on like they said it, so

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<v Speaker 2>there's no cross play because they're afraid of PC players,

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<v Speaker 2>which I get. But also this is driving me insane.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, I'm going to install everything on PC.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just gonna have to deal with it. Can't they private?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it does not work with like they if you

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<v Speaker 3>create a private party and only have.

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<v Speaker 2>Still does Still.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, I think they're cowards.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a friend problem.

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<v Speaker 1>If they were actually good at Call of Duty, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't matter what they were using. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But also like, can't you know you can't? Can you

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<v Speaker 3>want any scope with the controller?

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<v Speaker 2>People find like bullshit ways to play Call of Duty

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<v Speaker 2>on console anyway, you know, like people plug in a

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<v Speaker 2>mouse and keyboard that way people will get like fancy

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<v Speaker 2>controllers to like be able to like shot drop.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, or I don't remember what any you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you detailed this to your friends? Have you had

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<v Speaker 3>a talk with them, be like, oh, yeah, playing with

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<v Speaker 3>people on console were just as alying to you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and are just as bad as you are. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>people in PC most likely don't even know how to

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<v Speaker 3>aim with a mouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the other thing too. Matchmaking exists for a reason, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not We're not going to get thrown in with

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<v Speaker 2>people who are like way better than Yeah, the game

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<v Speaker 2>has skill based matchmaking, Yeah, which I also know people

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<v Speaker 2>hate that. That's like a that.

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<v Speaker 3>Watching the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh no, probably not. Well, well, one of them might,

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<v Speaker 2>but not if you're watching. But he's not the issue. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's a good friend watching you. Another problem with

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<v Speaker 3>my friends is they don't fucking watch me my podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>God forbid, they have something else to do. Uh, But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, uh, the one thing, the funky thing about consoles,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm glad that Jake mentioned. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>not everyone in the world has a PC, although there

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<v Speaker 3>is some interesting statistics about how much money is spent

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<v Speaker 3>on PC gaming versus console gaming and how many people

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<v Speaker 3>are actually playing. But I unplugged my consoles, both my

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<v Speaker 3>PS five, my Xbox Series s I know, and put

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<v Speaker 3>that in my closet over two months ago and I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't touched them since.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you find the PC experience to be less friction

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<v Speaker 1>than how consoles are right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean I have a complicated So for me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's two things. It was primary an Xbox user,

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<v Speaker 3>because I have vocalized on this con on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>how frustrating of like the actual user experience for a

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<v Speaker 3>PS five is for me, I can't stand it. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>that controller hurts my wrists. I'm reviewing games on that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I like wake up in the middle of the night

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<v Speaker 3>from like problem. It's there's a there's a problem with

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<v Speaker 3>my hands on that controller. That don't make sense. So

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<v Speaker 3>I like naturally gravitated away from the PS five and

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<v Speaker 3>that was primarily an Xbox user until Xbox did its

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<v Speaker 3>bullshit and closed down Arcane Austin and fucked over a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of other studios and obviously and now Microsoft is

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<v Speaker 3>unraveled and other shit that I want to protest. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm gonna stop using this thing, canceled

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<v Speaker 3>game pass, stop using my console, bought a PC, clearly

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<v Speaker 3>got Window. I have blood on my hands, we all do.

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<v Speaker 3>But the main point is that I use that as

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<v Speaker 3>a way to vote with my dollar by buying those

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<v Speaker 3>games on Steam and like other revenues g og and

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<v Speaker 3>directly from the sites if I can, rather than Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 3>So to your point, it's like I kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>optate to being a PC gamer purely out of partly

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<v Speaker 3>like one ethical and comfort reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, do you find now that you've like

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<v Speaker 1>had that experience experience?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the nine day, I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a nine day, but it's like a it's

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<v Speaker 3>I it's it's I have not seen a change. My

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<v Speaker 3>PC is still in my living room and operates as

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<v Speaker 3>a console.

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<v Speaker 2>Because on my TV it's just fascinating to me.

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<v Speaker 1>How like I because I also feel that frustration of

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<v Speaker 1>just like I feel like like consoles have gotten more

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<v Speaker 1>annoying to use. I agree, Yeah, no, that's and it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like this isn't a new thing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>people have been in fucking paying for Live Ship and

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<v Speaker 1>like all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing that I mean. John Luke witnessed me

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<v Speaker 2>the other day where I would it's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do a blue Prints run and I have

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<v Speaker 2>it on PlayStation five because we got a code for it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I turned it on and I turned to them

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, wait, I don't pay for PlayStation plus,

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<v Speaker 2>therefore my safe doesn't transfer. Therefore I'm not doing this

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<v Speaker 2>and turned it off and was like, if I had this,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had a PC code, I would have just

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<v Speaker 2>turned it on and it would have done a run

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<v Speaker 2>and would have been fine, you know, and but like

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<v Speaker 2>it did. The fact they're charging for that is like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course they're charging for it. But at the same time, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, but why yeah, exactly. It's it's it's we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>so far to the point where like the original argument

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<v Speaker 1>of PC versus console like doesn't even make sense anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like the console, like you just buy it

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<v Speaker 1>and it works and it's easy, and like you're not

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<v Speaker 1>having to like buy an expensive PC.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to understand how PC's work, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to build one.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's like, well, these consoles have so much

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<v Speaker 1>like extra little hoops and hang ups that to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where you're like it's actually like way easier to.

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<v Speaker 3>Justa to buy a console.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still more affordable to buy a console, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>like especially if you're talking about like raw horsepower like

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<v Speaker 1>the PS five and the Xbox Series X for like

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<v Speaker 1>bang for your buck in terms of like raw performance,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still getting a better value than a PC. But

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<v Speaker 1>the PC also can do way more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more of an investment too, when you consider when

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<v Speaker 2>you buy games on Steam in theory than forever if

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<v Speaker 2>you get new PCs, you know, whatever it is the

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<v Speaker 2>license are there, Yeah, it's only license there. You'll still

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<v Speaker 2>be able to start at games, you know, and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think consoles have done much better job at backwards compatibilibility.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even seeing the switch to having backwards compatibilities

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<v Speaker 2>like exciting, but like there will get to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where they will stop being backwards compatible and you'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to like drag out those old systems, which is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of expected, but like, I think that ease of

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<v Speaker 2>use that we're talking about is super present. And just

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that, like, you know, like you fired up

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<v Speaker 2>Unreal Tournament the other day, yeah, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, well, the fact that I was like, I can

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<v Speaker 3>like sit at our at the what we call the

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<v Speaker 3>speed zone where our gaming set up here is in

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<v Speaker 3>the office, and I went from being like I'm sick

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<v Speaker 3>of talking about blueprints, so that I booted it fall

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<v Speaker 3>Out too, and then I was we were trying to

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<v Speaker 3>we were trying to play a game yesterday and that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't working. I was like, well, Unreal Tournament three, like

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<v Speaker 3>a here we go, or you know, Doom the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen or maybe the ninety three one, which that is

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<v Speaker 3>obviously when I was played anything under this sun, including

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<v Speaker 3>the box for the special edition that's coming out anyways.

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<v Speaker 3>In short, PC gaming is still a privilege in many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have gaming in generals and privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true, especially these days. But I have now

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<v Speaker 3>gone months without even thinking about my consoles.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly believe as somebody who used to because because

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<v Speaker 1>I never owned the consoles as a kid, I only

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<v Speaker 1>owned handhelds in PC. And then I kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>over corrected and was like I'm going to own every

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<v Speaker 1>fucking console now, and I do. And I've now gone

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<v Speaker 1>back around to the point where I'm like, well, I

425
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<v Speaker 1>don't need these I do not need these consoles anym

426
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<v Speaker 1>like just straight up like we were before. It was

427
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<v Speaker 1>like because when I got those, when I bought like

428
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<v Speaker 1>a three sixty, and I didn't even plan a by

429
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<v Speaker 1>apstory like my dad bought one for the Blu ray Player,

430
00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:13.400
<v Speaker 1>because oh that's what dads do back then, it was

431
00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.119
<v Speaker 1>like I'm getting to play games that I genuinely can't

432
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<v Speaker 1>play anywhere else.

433
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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, we're contradicting ourselves every week when we talk

434
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<v Speaker 3>about all the games we're playing on PS two.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that even brings up another thing right where

436
00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:29.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like, normally I would say like, well, either if

437
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<v Speaker 2>you want PlayStation exclusives, get a PlayStation. If you don't

438
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<v Speaker 2>care about that, get a PC. But it's even at

439
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<v Speaker 2>the point where it's like, just wait a year. There's

440
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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of PlayStation exclusives. We're just talking about

441
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<v Speaker 2>how Xbox has more games on PlayStation than like PlayStation

442
00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of does. And yeah, if you wait a year,

443
00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:49.799
<v Speaker 2>it comes to PC. So it's like, I I don't.

444
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<v Speaker 1>The only and the only games are gonna make have

445
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<v Speaker 1>that year of time or are going to be single

446
00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:56.400
<v Speaker 1>player games? Yeah, like if it's a multiplayer game, we're

447
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<v Speaker 1>going to like I need to be there. They're gonna

448
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<v Speaker 1>put that on PC. Any you'll be able to play

449
00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:04.079
<v Speaker 1>the games with your friends no matter what. Yeah, you

450
00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:06.920
<v Speaker 1>want to boot up Concord right now. It was one

451
00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:09.559
<v Speaker 1>day one I play. I mean there was only day.

452
00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:11.960
<v Speaker 1>There was only one day, so the one and only

453
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<v Speaker 1>day it was around I I think I see the

454
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<v Speaker 1>future for myself with games, and I am like, I

455
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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be PC and then Nintendo.

456
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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of that's how I see it. That's

457
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<v Speaker 3>kind of deck s witch, you know, you know what I.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Was looking at yesterday because GTA six is supposed to

459
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<v Speaker 2>come out this year. It's not coming to PC. Like,

460
00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:40.759
<v Speaker 2>there's no way it's coming to PC. At least they

461
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<v Speaker 2>never do. It's coming to Xbox and PlayStation and you

462
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<v Speaker 2>know when red oh, they should expect it by now

463
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<v Speaker 2>because that's what they've done every it'll come in a

464
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<v Speaker 2>couple of years or whatever. But when Red Dead Redemption

465
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<v Speaker 2>two came out, that's why I got a PlayStation four

466
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<v Speaker 2>Pro because I was like, Okay, I want to play

467
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<v Speaker 2>this better. And I was looking at PlayStation five pros

468
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>no dollars, Yeah, probably gonna go up, and I was like, no, okay,

469
00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:10.519
<v Speaker 2>but I thought about it. I thought about it because

470
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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's gonna be the only way to play

471
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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be the best version of g t A

472
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<v Speaker 2>six because Xbox probably isn't gonna have a souped up

473
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<v Speaker 2>console by then, if at all, it seems.

474
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

475
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I haven't followed those leaks and rumors.

476
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<v Speaker 2>I think they're supposed to release like a handheld that

477
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<v Speaker 2>is similar specs to the series s. But man, dude,

478
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

479
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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm with you that like Rockstar absolutely could get

480
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<v Speaker 1>away with not putting it on PC.

481
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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised. But I'm also I think they've

482
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<v Speaker 2>already announced like that they already PlayStation five. But I think,

483
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<v Speaker 2>like if you watch that trailer at the end, you

484
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<v Speaker 2>just see or if you like read the description whatever,

485
00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:50.720
<v Speaker 2>it's just PlayStation five and Xbox.

486
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<v Speaker 3>That seems ridiculous to me. This seems completely insane.

487
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<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong.

488
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, people people Rockstar and Rockstar can do whatever

489
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<v Speaker 3>they want because it's I know they need to get

490
00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:03.960
<v Speaker 3>taken down a peg. Well yeah, but that's when you

491
00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.519
<v Speaker 3>don't buy the game. You vote with your dollar and

492
00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:07.519
<v Speaker 3>just be like, oh fuck it, I'm.

493
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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna here's the thing like and this is this

494
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.720
<v Speaker 1>is maybe I'm going to show my my hand here,

495
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:15.599
<v Speaker 1>but like I'm probably gonna play that game for like

496
00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:17.599
<v Speaker 1>five hours and then stop playing it because that's what

497
00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 1>I do with every g t A. They're just not

498
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<v Speaker 1>really I put more hours into that and meaning to

499
00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:26.839
<v Speaker 1>go back and finish. I feel more compelled to play

500
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.039
<v Speaker 1>that one where than like I played GTA five and

501
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I had a really fun weekend around and then it

502
00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, would you had.

503
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<v Speaker 3>On your Yeah, I mean you probably ald know this

504
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 3>because you know me, But would you suspect would you

505
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<v Speaker 3>think that I was either yay or nay a GTA nut?

506
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know the answer. I know you already

507
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<v Speaker 2>know the answer, but like, based on if I didn't

508
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<v Speaker 2>know the answer, I think I would think you aren't

509
00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:58.519
<v Speaker 2>into the answer. Sure, yeah first but you But I

510
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<v Speaker 2>am a fucking massive Grand Theft Auto fan. Like I've

511
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<v Speaker 2>played every single one of them, even the Top Down

512
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<v Speaker 2>two D one.

513
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:09.680
<v Speaker 3>That's yes, yeah, like one two uh, like even London

514
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.759
<v Speaker 3>the They were one of the only games like as

515
00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.000
<v Speaker 3>when I was younger that I like, I completed, I

516
00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:19.039
<v Speaker 3>saw all the way to the end, I did everything.

517
00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.559
<v Speaker 3>I loved them. I love GT five.

518
00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite?

519
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:34.920
<v Speaker 3>God, This is a tough one. Actually, I think I

520
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 3>might have to say four. I think Grand Theft of

521
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<v Speaker 3>four might be my favorite, because I also think like

522
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<v Speaker 3>Lost in the Damned and bal like.

523
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<v Speaker 1>Both of those are four is the one that I

524
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>stuck with the longest, and and and that might be

525
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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast.

526
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe. I recently tried to replay five, and I

527
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:58.640
<v Speaker 2>think I don't think that story has aged very well.

528
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's necessarily the fault of the story itself.

529
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I think part of it is just red dead. Redemption

530
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:07.799
<v Speaker 2>two set such a high bar for me, and like

531
00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:13.559
<v Speaker 2>what that narratively, what they're capable of, and going back

532
00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>to five, and even like four, because I think four

533
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.920
<v Speaker 2>has a much better narrative than five as well too,

534
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.559
<v Speaker 2>So I think, like I think that game worked and

535
00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:22.559
<v Speaker 2>was fun and had like a lot it was like

536
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of good nods and jokes and pokes

537
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:28.240
<v Speaker 2>at things, but like when it's flanked by like Red

538
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Dead Redemption Too, which I think is one of the

539
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:31.799
<v Speaker 2>best stories ever told in the video game, and g

540
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<v Speaker 2>t A four, which I think is probably has the

541
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 2>most interesting GTA story, just because it felt like the

542
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 2>most grounded and it didn't feel like it was trying to.

543
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know there were a lot of inspirations,

544
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>but like compared to like Vice City, which.

545
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Is like it's like, okay, Scarface exactly, I know what

546
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>you're doing. San Andreas is like every nineties, like like.

547
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Five is just hey, like heavy heat, yeah, we do

548
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>too rules, yeah, and to be fair, the idea of

549
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:01.039
<v Speaker 1>like we're going to make keep the video game, like

550
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 1>that's cool, like you know, and there are some sick

551
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 1>missions in five though, like the way you'd switch between

552
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>characters and the stuff.

553
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:09.079
<v Speaker 2>That stuff was amazing, but it was just the stuff

554
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 2>in between that I was like.

555
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, if you but if you were asked me

556
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<v Speaker 1>a like favorite rock Star.

557
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Game, I think I know the talked about it earlier.

558
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would probably would probably say I think the

559
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<v Speaker 3>best game they ever made, and it's like one of

560
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:26.200
<v Speaker 3>the best games ever made is Red Dead Redemption two,

561
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:28.680
<v Speaker 3>But my favorite is Bully.

562
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Like similar and yeah, a favorite rock Star game.

563
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.400
<v Speaker 3>I would put the Warriors like right next to that.

564
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I've put so much time to the Warriors.

565
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 2>I think, so yeah with Bully for me though, like

566
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 2>because like that is such a unique idea that like

567
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't I adore that game, and I remember when

568
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Hogwarts Legacy was announced and what people kind of said

569
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>it was going to be, you know, push aside all

570
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>of the controversy if you can. But like I was

571
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.279
<v Speaker 2>hoping for, like, oh, they're gonna look to Bully and

572
00:26:58.319 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>they're going to make like Hogwarts bawl.

573
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:01.279
<v Speaker 3>It is not that at all.

574
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>It was like just like a third person act lout

575
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>shooter act, not lootter shooter.

576
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 3>But did that game have like you could go to

577
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 3>class or you could skip class. No, no, no, no no.

578
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 2>It was all structured in missions. So it was like

579
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>when you want to do a mission, you'd go to

580
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 2>class and you'd do it, but there was a schedule,

581
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 2>but you didn't have to follow it, you like didn't matter.

582
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't bully or you have to like that.

583
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it was one of my favorite things about

584
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Bully though, is it was just like there's a schedule.

585
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>You can stick to it, or you can or you

586
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>don't have to, but their consequences if you don't. And

587
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I can tell like playing Hogwarts Legacy, they there's probably like, oh,

588
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>but people don't think that's fun. People want to do

589
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 2>things in their own They want to they want the

590
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>freedom to do what they want to do.

591
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't want that.

592
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to have to do it about like the

593
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 1>And also I do think like that's I think they're

594
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>not giving people credit. We're like, sure, that might be

595
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 1>frustrating for some, but I also think people want to

596
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 1>live out like the specific fantasy of like this world,

597
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 1>and to do that means you should like fully embrace

598
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's everything about it.

599
00:27:59.119 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny.

600
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.240
<v Speaker 3>It's to be to think back because I was playing

601
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 3>that game when I was in high school, and I

602
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 3>would get out of high school and go to school

603
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 3>and bully and go to classes and like go to

604
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 3>workshop and build my bike and yeah, when you got

605
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.359
<v Speaker 3>past that chunk. You can just roam the city at

606
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 3>night getting until you like get start to get tired

607
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 3>and you have to like rush back to your campus

608
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 3>or something like that.

609
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.400
<v Speaker 2>You could like egg houses and like you go to

610
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the carnival, play go.

611
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 3>To the beach. Whim. I remember the amount of time

612
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Boxing Club. I like fell asleep swimming in that game. Yeah,

613
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 3>it's like Jimmy Brown.

614
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, oh, Jimmy, I think I know, I'm sure

615
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this before, but like I think one

616
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>of the biggest tragedies with I mean there's a lot,

617
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:45.640
<v Speaker 2>like you know, the crunch and all that stuff is

618
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>is it? But like they used to release the game

619
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>every year and it was and and then GTA five

620
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>happened and they like pumped the brakes on all that,

621
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, like Bully Too apparently was in the works supposedly,

622
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.799
<v Speaker 2>and like the fact that like we'll probably never get

623
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 2>a Bully Too, or if we do, it will be

624
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:05.839
<v Speaker 2>like fifteen years from now or something like that. It's

625
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.440
<v Speaker 2>just so tragic because I like GTA a lot. I

626
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.920
<v Speaker 2>love Red Dead Redemption, but I think what I love

627
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 2>the most about rock Star was that like they would

628
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.640
<v Speaker 2>try out different things and consistently the quality would be

629
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>so good.

630
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Or they would try something out in one game and

631
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>you could see evolve in the next game they were doing.

632
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 3>So like you saw that with like you could see

633
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 3>that between even from San Andreas to Manhunt too or

634
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 3>manicuind came up before Sandres, so like you could see

635
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 3>elements of Manhunt that were put into San Andreas. And

636
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 3>then I feel like after that there was Bully and

637
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 3>then The Warriors, and those two games had like stuff

638
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 3>in common before going to It's I don't.

639
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Know, it's and now, like the only studios you still

640
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.839
<v Speaker 1>see to do that kind of iteration is like Japanese

641
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 1>devs like RGG or like from Software.

642
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Every single time they do something in one game, you

643
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 3>kind of see that.

644
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 1>You kind of see the iteration in the level, and like,

645
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think overall games are just more expensive

646
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and take more time, so you see that gap with

647
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 1>every studio, but especially with rock Star it's like really apparent.

648
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.160
<v Speaker 3>It's like, wow, well they got gt on line, you know.

649
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cool.

650
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad for the people who really like GJ on THEE.

651
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not because it kind of ruined like rock Star

652
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>releasing games you know they don't do it. I just

653
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 2>stop playing. We've had enough of GTL.

654
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:28.440
<v Speaker 3>All right, this podcast to get out of here. But

655
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.839
<v Speaker 3>it did become the gt or the Rockstar podcast.

656
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Hey, we have stilled our quota of talking about six.

657
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 3>There's no quota official, the unofficial quota official quota into

658
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:43.480
<v Speaker 3>our years every day when we start work to make

659
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 3>sure that we talk about it's just there.

660
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>And they're just like, and now we can talk about

661
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 2>the switch to for fifteen. Yes, and then.

662
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey, we we mentioned earlier, so we can put that

663
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>in there. We can throw that in the title.

664
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 3>Get that se O juice that it was that Forbes article,

665
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, like ago where it's like Blueprints is

666
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 3>the game of the year and even if GG six

667
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 3>comes out this year, just like, what are you talking

668
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.720
<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about? Yeah, what are you saying? Like,

669
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 3>come on, you can't say that.

670
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. The nature of game of the

671
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 2>year is comparing one game to the other. But I

672
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I hope there's not a discussion of like trying to

673
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 2>compare GTA six and Blueprints. I mean, it happened it

674
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>well probably could.

675
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it comes out this year overall and

676
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure game Spot is guilty of this. I'm sure

677
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.279
<v Speaker 1>somebody could send me an article that's like you guys

678
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>did this, and it's yeah, fair enough. But like the

679
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>John Luke opinion, I think playing a game and then

680
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 1>immediately using a word like game of the Year is

681
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 1>like kind of bullshit.

682
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Likely you're just like.

683
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not it can be your personal game of the

684
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>year so far, right, sure, And but I it's like,

685
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:51.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I just really have a problem with like

686
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 3>immediately like labeling and commodifying a game that way, where

687
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>it's just like that's like, first off, like what's the point,

688
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 3>Like why are you trying to like immediately like Game

689
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 3>of Fire like label this thing as like because I

690
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 3>also think like game of the Year is kind of

691
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 3>whatever in my opinion, like who cares? Like it's a

692
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 3>way to to celebrate, you know, like you have It's

693
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:17.000
<v Speaker 3>like for us, the at least for game Spot, it's

694
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 3>different because we have top ten sure that it's it's

695
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.880
<v Speaker 3>not ordered, So it's just we have ten games that

696
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 3>were great this year and then there's the one game

697
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>that we thought was a pivotal thing this year. But

698
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.400
<v Speaker 3>I think to your point, it's this sort of like

699
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 3>recency biases where you're just sort of like you play

700
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 3>a thing, you like it, you're just a game of

701
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 3>the year.

702
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.119
<v Speaker 1>It's and and and the idea that you need to

703
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.519
<v Speaker 1>immediately like create an opinion, and then what like that

704
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Forbes article is doing is like create opinion, and I

705
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 1>now have to stand by this opinion.

706
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't like what happens when that person when G

707
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>six comes out.

708
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>And they're like, I hope this might be better, but

709
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 3>I can't admit I hope that person makes that same

710
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 3>article every time a new game comes, like like.

711
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Doom Dark Ages game of the Year, even if g.

712
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:02.759
<v Speaker 3>RoboCup Robot, I forget what it's called, Rogue City, something

713
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 3>something like Rogue City unofficially SEQL to the game of

714
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 3>the year. Even if GTA six comes out this year

715
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:11.400
<v Speaker 3>and then GT six comes out, like GG sixth Game

716
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>of the Year comes out, even.

717
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>If G six PC version comes out this year, Hey,

718
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.759
<v Speaker 1>when the PC version comes out in eight we'll be

719
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>able to give it best reissue. That's true, since we

720
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 1>have the coveted game Spot Best Reissue Award. Yeah, and

721
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>for those who don't know, hey, go find it, Yes,

722
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 1>go get it. The we we went through all of

723
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 1>the Game of the Year awards that we had, which,

724
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>by the way, these trophies are like twenty five pounds.

725
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are so overdone.

726
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 3>Murder you really could, I could murder somebody. But the

727
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 3>one we got, the one that we kept here to

728
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>display is Game Spot Best of twenty fourteen.

729
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Let me let me do man best re issue. Are

730
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>we on a camera three?

731
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah we are there. You go, there's your thumb now.

732
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>A right.

733
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 3>Thumbs up. Anyways, so when that comes out, we can

734
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 3>make we could just we'll just scratch into that. Yeah,

735
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 3>we'll just we'll just put a one and after it's

736
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 3>even better if we got rid of the Roman numerals

737
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 3>and put a six, like we don't we don't know

738
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 3>what this is. Look, we've all played lower line laser

739
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 3>as year. We know Roman numerals.

740
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 1>But we could Yeah, and you could probably turn the

741
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>one into a two and the four into a six.

742
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I think we can make that happen. Speaking of Blueprints,

743
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>game of Game of the Year, Blueprints we talked about

744
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>extensively last week, meaning Kurt, but Jake, you were gone.

745
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>It was I know you've been playing it. Do you

746
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>have any thoughts?

747
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I have nothing. You have nothing.

748
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just kidding. I mean, I don't know.

749
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:06.159
<v Speaker 2>I maybe at the time.

750
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>At the time when I was on the podcast, I

751
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>only played about three hours of it.

752
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay now now, so I've apparently played forty hours although

753
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I left it. I left my PlayStation on for like

754
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 2>two days straight. Yeah, and I really like this game.

755
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't love it. I think probably stuff you talked about,

756
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:33.199
<v Speaker 2>but I find myself getting consistently frustrated because I know

757
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 2>the solution, but I'm waiting for the layout that lets

758
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>me solve that solution, which is which is I'm sure

759
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:41.079
<v Speaker 2>what you guys talked about much.

760
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I call them blue balls. Blue balls

761
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Speaker 3>because it's like the it's the it's the cock pluck

762
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 3>of your epiphany, you know, like you know what you

763
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 3>need to do, you know it needs to be done,

764
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 3>but now you have to wait for the game to

765
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 3>lock in place for you to be able to do it.

766
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.039
<v Speaker 2>And when it comes to puzzle games or like puzzle things,

767
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>puzzle segments in games, that is one of the biggest

768
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 2>sins in my opinion, where it's like you know the solution,

769
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>but either the mechanics, the systems, whatever, it might be

770
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 2>is getting in your way to actually solve those problems,

771
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>those puzzles, And I find myself I find that happening

772
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>consistently in this game. That said, the moments when I

773
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 2>am able to put things together and I am able

774
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to solve things like for instance, I think probably the

775
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>biggest high for me was the paintings and figuring that out. Yes,

776
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 2>was was genuinely exciting because I felt like I felt

777
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.079
<v Speaker 2>like that was less luck involved in that was more

778
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 2>like me plotting a route to every single corner of

779
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>that map.

780
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Although a question about that though, Yeah, did you have

781
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 3>that epiphany on your own about the paintings or did

782
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 3>you find a piece of information that basically told you

783
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:53.400
<v Speaker 3>about the paintings?

784
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, there was notes that like hinted at it, but

785
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>nothing there was never like have you tried doing this?

786
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Like it felt it felt natural, Like it felt like

787
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 2>I had to work to get to that point.

788
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

789
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll also say I'm kind of stupid when it comes

790
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.519
<v Speaker 2>to puzzle games. I'm not always the best at I'm like,

791
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I still haven't hit the ante chamber, and it took

792
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>me a long time to figure out how to And

793
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 2>now that I know I'm just frustrated because I'm like,

794
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I know how to get there, I just can't. But yeah,

795
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 2>I do like the game. I think there's some really

796
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 2>cool ideas. I was having a very good time with it,

797
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 2>but it's like peaks and valleys right where it's like

798
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'm like I have these incredible highs where I'm

799
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>having a great time and everything's working out, and then

800
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, I'm doing runs where it's like

801
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I am doing this because I

802
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I'm trying to solve or trying to

803
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>figure out because I'm not getting either like a hint

804
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>or I'm not getting the route I need, or sometimes

805
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll have an amazing route through the manner, but I'll

806
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>have gained nothing from it. Yeah, so it's like, okay,

807
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 2>like I think, like not to like backseat game debt,

808
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 2>but I think for me, I wish more carried over

809
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 2>between runs, and I know eventually things start to carry.

810
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 3>Over, but even then.

811
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like, uh, you know, getting like an

812
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>upgrade disc. I know there's one that's being sold at

813
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the store, but I didn't have a run that gave

814
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 2>me fifteen coins or whatever to buy it and bring

815
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>it back to a room, or I didn't get a

816
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 2>room that has a PC that I used to upgrade it.

817
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get a coat check so I could leave

818
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 2>it in there. And it's just kind of like, so

819
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 2>this run was worthless and then I, yeah, start back.

820
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I Yeah, I'm fairly conflicted. I think. I hate to

821
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 2>say it, but I think, like also the level of

822
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>like hype and excitement people had for this game probably

823
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>set expectations a little too high for me. And when

824
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I actually like played it, I was like, yeah, this

825
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 2>has moments of greatness. But also I'm not in you know,

826
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 2>you guys talked about lorl a lot, and we keep

827
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 2>bringing up lay. I actually don't if.

828
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 3>We talked about Laura. I think we did only briefly

829
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.039
<v Speaker 3>because I'm not I've I've I think it's only natural

830
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 3>that Laura like keeps coming up because that was the

831
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 3>big puzzle game of last year. Yea, Now Blueprints is

832
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 3>considered the big puzzle game of this year.

833
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 2>They're very different puzzles. They're extreme. Well see that's the thing.

834
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 3>I controversially don't really see Blueprints as a puzzle. I

835
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 3>think it's a roguelike like game with puzzles that occasionally

836
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 3>have puzzles in them. But if you were to strip,

837
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.599
<v Speaker 3>if it was only to be the puzzles I've experienced,

838
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 3>that'd be a very narrow, in my opinion, puzzle game experience.

839
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 3>So when people compare it to mysted, I'm kind of confounded.

840
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think I don't.

841
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that makes any sense personally. I agree,

842
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Have you.

843
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Like found the chessboard or stuff like that, because they're

844
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:45.840
<v Speaker 2>definitely puzzles there.

845
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I know there are puzzles, but that's what I'm saying.

846
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, it's it's it doesn't I don't know

847
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 3>what it means.

848
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't really know. But I think the other

849
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 2>thing too, is like it just doesn't feel like the

850
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:58.800
<v Speaker 2>foundation of it. I guess I in Lorli, I'd work

851
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.039
<v Speaker 2>hard to have an epiphany, and i'd have that epiphany

852
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.079
<v Speaker 2>and you go through I'd be like, oh my god,

853
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.119
<v Speaker 2>and I'd run back to that spot. I'd solve it,

854
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 2>and that would like have a cascading effect where it's

855
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 2>like Okay, well now I can do this, and I

856
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 2>can do this, and I can check out this, and

857
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 2>while this is like I solve something.

858
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 3>I haven't had, Like, what do I do now? I

859
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 3>haven't there was I made a big so I need

860
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 3>to I need to make this. This isn't a poor thing.

861
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Even note I played fifteen hours that game and then

862
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:31.599
<v Speaker 3>tapped out. Yeah, my wife took the reins and kept going,

863
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 3>and I would like, basically, chick in, I would like us,

864
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, if she asked her a thoughts or opinions,

865
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 3>I would give them and I would assist to see

866
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 3>what would be the best route. And last night, after

867
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:44.880
<v Speaker 3>about like twenty five hours, she hold the credits. I

868
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 3>saw the credits. I saw the uncut scene.

869
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I also or, sorry, go ahead, I don't want to know.

870
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 3>And I was I think I've already lost the point

871
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.920
<v Speaker 3>that was going to make. Yeah, I think I just

872
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.800
<v Speaker 3>wanted to give that context. Oh that's what I was

873
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.119
<v Speaker 3>gonna say. And in the fifteen hours I played, I

874
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 3>finally tapped out when I had an amazing run, I

875
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 3>unlocked a very important part of that game, and I

876
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 3>didn't feel anything. And that's when I knew. I was like,

877
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm done. Yeah, Like I got to a

878
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 3>place that felt important, that felt like consequential. It now

879
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.480
<v Speaker 3>felt like we had like a big step where it

880
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 3>was like I now know what we need to do. Yeah,

881
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 3>But I didn't have like a mind blowing segment. It

882
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 3>was like it came out of like like like it's

883
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:34.440
<v Speaker 3>one of those things where like you're just so desperate

884
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 3>to have something happen. Then when it finally happened, I

885
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 3>was just like, okay, I can so that's what anyway,

886
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.599
<v Speaker 3>So I'm not even having those epiphanies.

887
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Sure so well, I was gonna say. The other thing

888
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>that I find pretty frustrating is like this is a

889
00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>game where they're like even the game even says like

890
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna need a notebook, you should get out.

891
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 3>To your paper.

892
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is is like I use the notebook

893
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to like copy down info from notes that I find,

894
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.159
<v Speaker 2>because the game doesn't let you check the notes back,

895
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 2>like you have to get to that room and check

896
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 2>the notes again. So I'm like taking photos of notes

897
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.079
<v Speaker 2>and then I'm writing things down. But it seems like

898
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't seem like a like it doesn't seem like

899
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.679
<v Speaker 2>that needs to be there, because why can't I just

900
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:17.639
<v Speaker 2>save the notes and reference them later.

901
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Well in Laura La and now they'll bring it up.

902
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 3>That's why your main character is a photographic memory, which

903
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.559
<v Speaker 3>I think is a very clever way of well, your

904
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 3>character has basically special They contextualize this ability for you

905
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 3>to remember things in a way that's cool.

906
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 2>But like that brings back like the other issue where

907
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.800
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, oh, there was a note in this

908
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 2>one room. I think that talked about this area of

909
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the world, which would come in handy now, But I

910
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 2>don't remember where I found that note. I don't remember

911
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 2>what it said. So then I just found myself like

912
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>flipping the pages of a book, taking a photo, flipping page,

913
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>taking a photo, flipping page, taking photo, and then I

914
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>have like a folder in my phone of photos of

915
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 2>notes where it's just like, why isn't the game doing this?

916
00:42:56.239 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Why isn't like I back to like this. I wish

917
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 2>progress carried over. Yeah, like some progress carried over, because

918
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 2>like these notes would be nice to just like take

919
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 2>a moment, open up my notebook in game and be like, Okay,

920
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>so this was said here. This is so like I

921
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 2>can use this to reference.

922
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 1>So if you take anything out of the mansion, is

923
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 1>there any you're not allowed to remember? They say you

924
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.079
<v Speaker 1>can't take anything out of the mansion.

925
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 3>But who this little kid that can do whatever he wants?

926
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's dead.

927
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 1>He's a paper boy. Don't actually give a reason for

928
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>like they also don't give it. You can't do it.

929
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Why the mansion does is the way it is? Do

930
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 3>they not? I mean not in my time with it,

931
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm not found found that.

932
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I know I sound like a hater,

933
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 2>but I do. I do. I think there's a brilliant

934
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 2>game there. Enjoy this game like I am. The fact

935
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 2>that I've played as much as I had says a lot.

936
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just like there's a lot of little

937
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 2>frustrations that I'm running into that Like for me, I

938
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:56.480
<v Speaker 2>think GTA six will probably be the better game. No,

939
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.599
<v Speaker 2>it's just stupid to say, but like I don't know,

940
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 2>like there's enough gnawing at me where I'm just like,

941
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:05.320
<v Speaker 2>come on, can't you throw me a bone? Like help

942
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>me out a little.

943
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 3>I also think the game's lingering with me for the

944
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:11.400
<v Speaker 3>wrong reasons. Sure if that makes sense. Yeah, it's like

945
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:13.639
<v Speaker 3>I as my final thing is, I think there's a

946
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 3>brilliant game there. I see it, and I know I

947
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 3>can see the loop it plays, But I think the

948
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 3>game does itself a disservice and like trying to almost

949
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 3>make me feel like there's a narrative, but when I

950
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>the narrative that I have unraveled, I just don't think

951
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 3>is all that interesting. And and that's for me a

952
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 3>very kurt centric, like I need something to chew on,

953
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 3>and intellectual intrigue of something potentially being there is simply

954
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.679
<v Speaker 3>not enough. After twenty five hours and I was like, sure,

955
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm good, you know, so good, but there is a

956
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:47.920
<v Speaker 3>brilliant game there. I'm not hating on it like Jake.

957
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like, it's just this is a tough game to

958
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 3>I think to like you, if you like slot machines,

959
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.559
<v Speaker 3>you might have an addiction issue like gambling, but without

960
00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 3>any actual real gambling, this game be.

961
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Just have kind of finally accepted that while I don't

962
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 1>dislike roguelikes, they do not tickle my brain the way

963
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:10.559
<v Speaker 1>they do for a lot of people. I know people

964
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that get like really sucked in a roguelikes and will

965
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>just like play them for hours and hours and hours

966
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.039
<v Speaker 1>and hours and hours. And I've tried many a roguelikes

967
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I like people say are like some of the best ones,

968
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>like Binding of Isaac and Blotro and this game, and

969
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I've Hades and I've I've never finished any of them

970
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>because I always just kind of a vege Hades. No,

971
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I never finished Hadies. I always just hit a point

972
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>where I just get sort of tired of the repetitiveness

973
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of it and don't feel compelled. No, I didn't finish also,

974
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 1>which is maybe the one I would have gotten the closest,

975
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 1>because I did find the world and the story to

976
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>be very engaging, but I just didn't. Again, I just

977
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of hit this point where I'm like, I'm just

978
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 1>dying too many times and not having a enough run,

979
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and I just rather I don't know, I feel like

980
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm I feel like I'm wasting my time. And I'm

981
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.119
<v Speaker 1>not saying like playing those games is a waste of time,

982
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Like I think people like, if that is what you

983
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 1>enjoy doing, that's fine. Just for myself, I'm just like,

984
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 1>I rather do something where I know I'm making I

985
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:20.599
<v Speaker 1>think progress.

986
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 2>I think we're cut from the same cloth in that

987
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 2>in that sentiment, because like, I respect a lot of

988
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 2>those games, but like, honestly, I can't think of I

989
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 2>think the last Rogue Light I know I finished was

990
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Dead Cells and I felt like I played so much

991
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Dead Cells that by the time I was done, I

992
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm good with this genre for the most part.

993
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 2>And like I still played Hades, and I really liked

994
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>what I played of Hades. Balatro I played a good

995
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 2>amount of and I really liked it. But like I did,

996
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I did finish like a couple runs of Blatro. But

997
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.639
<v Speaker 2>like at the end of the day, like I I'm

998
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of tired of rogue Lights, or maybe I was

999
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:55.800
<v Speaker 2>just never that into him, kind of like you're saying,

1000
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the exception that I still returned to and

1001
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I was just playing the other days am Pressure Viribers.

1002
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 2>But that's like just like it's a very different game.

1003
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 2>It's like I turned my brain off and just like

1004
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 2>go in circles, and like the reasons I play that

1005
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 2>are not because of the rogue light elements. It's because

1006
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 2>of the brain.

1007
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:17.679
<v Speaker 1>Also, you can't beat it, right, there's no like like

1008
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the which I think is the freeing part of it.

1009
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I think we're like games like Hades is like the

1010
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>idea of like, well I'm not making progress. I'm like

1011
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not hitting the ending. We're like bro because there

1012
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>is no it doesn't like the game. The journey itself

1013
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is the game. There is no ending, Like, I don't

1014
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>have that expectation, so it doesn't matter.

1015
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:36.800
<v Speaker 3>I actually think I would enjoy Blueprints a lot more

1016
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:38.559
<v Speaker 3>if that was the case. I think that's like one

1017
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:40.440
<v Speaker 3>of the biggest friction points for me is like I

1018
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of just wish this game was advertised to me

1019
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 3>that there is no story, there is no end, and

1020
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 3>you were constantly just trying to fit your It's an

1021
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 3>endless puzzle sim sort of in a way, but because

1022
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:53.679
<v Speaker 3>there is like a sprinkle of a narrative, Yeah, I'm

1023
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 3>trying to grasp onto and trying to understand. I'm just like,

1024
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 3>I just don't I just don't care. I also like

1025
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm learning I don't don't care about teenagers.

1026
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, We've always always known that about You've always.

1027
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Known that about me. I don't also care about family drama.

1028
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 3>M like family tree problems. I'm like I've learned that

1029
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:14.960
<v Speaker 3>this year about myself between this and Row Trees, Like,

1030
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm I don't really share what you're what do you

1031
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 3>think about your grandpa? It doesn't really matter to me.

1032
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Same with Star Wars, that's just a family drama.

1033
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Sure, it's about family.

1034
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I love The Godfather, though that's not really I mean

1035
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:35.079
<v Speaker 3>that is family drama. That extremely it goes beyond the

1036
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 3>the internal conflicts of the family and and the world

1037
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:38.039
<v Speaker 3>and so on and so forth.

1038
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 2>It's Marlon Branda.

1039
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 3>No, that's my.

1040
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>It's your, mister Lasagnas. Did you make any more progress

1041
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:54.360
<v Speaker 1>in the Godfather game?

1042
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 3>No? Do you want to talk about the other game?

1043
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 3>That Mafia? Mafia? Mafia fucking rules first time playing? Yeah,

1044
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.480
<v Speaker 3>it does, like I've always wanted to play when I

1045
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:06.039
<v Speaker 3>was younger. I think at the time when it came out,

1046
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 3>I didn't own a PS two, I didn't have one

1047
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:09.719
<v Speaker 3>of the consoles to play it, and I also didn't

1048
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 3>have a good enough PC to play it. But I

1049
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 3>always wanted to play it so bad. Never did playing

1050
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.800
<v Speaker 3>the game now, like on the PS two technical limitations aside.

1051
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 3>It is such a well directed, such a well written

1052
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.159
<v Speaker 3>game that came out like two thousand and one or

1053
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:27.719
<v Speaker 3>two or whenever it happened. That game rules, and it's

1054
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 3>crazy to play that right after playing the Godfather game,

1055
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 3>which came out after it came out after and that

1056
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:36.880
<v Speaker 3>game I could have messed came more than a few

1057
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 3>hours in the reasons. When I started have to extorting people,

1058
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, what the fuck is going on? But

1059
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Mafia rules. That game has such a good atmosphere, such

1060
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 3>a good pacing, Like it's so cool to play a

1061
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:51.280
<v Speaker 3>game where you start as like a measly taxi driver

1062
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 3>who's just kind of like stumbles into this situation and

1063
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 3>you don't really seem you don't really play as a

1064
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 3>big dog anyway. But I don't know, that game is

1065
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 3>just really good. Like I know, I'm probably triading old

1066
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.199
<v Speaker 3>ground since that game has been off for over twenty

1067
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 3>years and there was a remake make which is very good.

1068
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 3>But for me playing it for the first time and knew,

1069
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 3>it's like, hell, yeah, this is this is great.

1070
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Was that original developed by Hanger thirteen as well? Did

1071
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Hanger thirteen? Hager?

1072
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 1>At that point Hanger thirteen was created and their first

1073
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:21.119
<v Speaker 1>game was Mafia three?

1074
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, but it was former It was people who worked

1075
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 2>on the other ones, right.

1076
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the full mix.

1077
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Because two K check did Mafia two. I think they

1078
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:35.320
<v Speaker 2>did the first one too. I don't know what the

1079
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 2>name of the studio was for the first one, but.

1080
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I know it was I don't know how much of

1081
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 1>the developers who worked on the originals they worked on

1082
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>three at all told gret this.

1083
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 2>But the director on Stalker I think did some consulting

1084
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 2>for Mafia too.

1085
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm so yeah, yeah, I'm big fan Mafia. So far

1086
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:58.079
<v Speaker 3>it's great. I know that there's I'm aware of this difficulty, Spike.

1087
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.119
<v Speaker 3>I've already experienced a mission where I was like, this

1088
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.119
<v Speaker 3>seems borderline fucking impossible. Well, where I have to get it.

1089
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:09.199
<v Speaker 3>We have to take that speed speedster car and get

1090
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 3>it through the city without damaging it and then get

1091
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:12.960
<v Speaker 3>it back in time, and that already seems difficult. So

1092
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.000
<v Speaker 3>we'll see how the actual race goes. But I'm enjoying

1093
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.599
<v Speaker 3>it enough that I would just consider buying the remake

1094
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:17.960
<v Speaker 3>on PC.

1095
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:20.880
<v Speaker 2>And just it's a short game too, Like it's I mean,

1096
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.559
<v Speaker 2>time is time, but like it's it's not like a

1097
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:27.119
<v Speaker 2>thirty forty fifty hour open the game.

1098
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 3>I like paying I love paying for my tickets, getting

1099
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.000
<v Speaker 3>pulled over, yeah, and having the physically get out of

1100
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:36.679
<v Speaker 3>my car and like, hey, the person for it. I

1101
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 3>also love it. It took a good hour and a

1102
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:41.280
<v Speaker 3>half or two hours of my time until you actually

1103
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 3>were told you have to go shoot.

1104
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Somebody, like, it's not like great thing all about GTA four.

1105
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:47.719
<v Speaker 2>You don't get a gun in your hands for a while.

1106
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:52.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Mafia is good, cool playing

1107
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 3>on the PS two. Well, I found the Scarface game

1108
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 3>on PS two, so I'm gonna go load.

1109
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:02.800
<v Speaker 1>That up and we'll just going wrap up the Gangster.

1110
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Is there any other ones that we're missing that we

1111
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 1>should try? And well, there's that one Tycoon game, but

1112
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not Gangster Tycoon.

1113
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 3>There's the Mafia t but that's not of this era.

1114
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 3>We're tired, like I can't play Grand Theft, auto play

1115
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:18.199
<v Speaker 3>these games.

1116
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 1>It's a shame that that Peaky Blinders was is more current,

1117
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:23.280
<v Speaker 1>because man, they would have definitely made.

1118
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 3>It Peaky Blinders.

1119
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I know there's like a Peaky Blinders like x Com

1120
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 1>tactical game that's apparently not very good.

1121
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:30.119
<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, no, no, no, that's.

1122
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Not what I want. I want a shitty PS two

1123
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 1>game where they're like, hey, you're the newest member the Peaky.

1124
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Blinders, aren't they?

1125
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, uh, they're probably sound a lot different. No,

1126
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:48.719
<v Speaker 1>come on, just a little one. Uh oh it's me

1127
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the Peaky blind Is they sound Brooklyn.

1128
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.679
<v Speaker 3>By the end of that, I couldn't the peaky bloind all.

1129
00:52:56.519 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 1>My accents turned into because because it was like I'll

1130
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:02.039
<v Speaker 1>try and do like a British accent. I'll be like

1131
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, oh, I'll be like, od it's me.

1132
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.159
<v Speaker 1>The peaky blind is like Australian.

1133
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well what happened? So what we got scar from

1134
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Mama Scarface, The Godfather, Mafia, Mafia Sopranos.

1135
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Well but that's not Open worlds right, but still.

1136
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.199
<v Speaker 1>No, but it's a gangster No, no, we're just talking

1137
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>gangster video games.

1138
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Not g t A though specifically and my period piece specifically,

1139
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.519
<v Speaker 2>because it wasn't like Driver three was Driver three is

1140
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.440
<v Speaker 2>not a because you're yeah, you're like a You're an

1141
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.079
<v Speaker 2>off of You're a cop, aren't you? Yeah, you're like

1142
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:48.119
<v Speaker 2>an undercover cop. Yeah. They made a sequel to the

1143
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Godfather game.

1144
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 1>They did, Oh there's a Godfather too, that gues that

1145
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 1>would be the one.

1146
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Then that game was weird because that was like more

1147
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 2>of a I mean, I think it was still open

1148
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:58.960
<v Speaker 2>world and it took place in like Florida, but it

1149
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.800
<v Speaker 2>was more like club man and stuff, like you managed

1150
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.280
<v Speaker 2>a club and like you had like a like it

1151
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 2>looked like the precursor to a lot of those like

1152
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 2>mobile management game. Okay, yeah, I think there was still

1153
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:12.320
<v Speaker 2>over most of I think.

1154
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:13.800
<v Speaker 1>They're like the yak is a mini game where you

1155
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:14.360
<v Speaker 1>run a cabaret.

1156
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it was a kind of like that, but

1157
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.039
<v Speaker 2>considerably worse than Like Sure, I think it was worse

1158
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.239
<v Speaker 2>than the original Godfather game too, what shocker is, But

1159
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I think the original Godfather game isn't.

1160
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.480
<v Speaker 3>I was actually pretty impressed with its production value. In

1161
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 3>certain parts of it. It's just like a very not

1162
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 3>fun game to well.

1163
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Also, I really want to know what the not PS

1164
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>two Wei version is like, because.

1165
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because I think you missed this, but you

1166
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 3>don't watch podcasts. But I'm convinced that they designed that

1167
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 3>game for the Wei first.

1168
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh we talked about that you played on because that's

1169
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.000
<v Speaker 2>how I played it. Yeah, try playing on the pou

1170
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:51.239
<v Speaker 2>like Waggle the joy.

1171
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Cons realize how awkward those controls are because it feels

1172
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.039
<v Speaker 3>intended for motion controls. It's very bizarre. So, but I

1173
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 3>mean Godfather too, if that's a tycoon game and that

1174
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:03.880
<v Speaker 3>in that way, that makes the checks out with what

1175
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 3>the Godfather Part two is where it's like more about

1176
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 3>running the business and of it and stuff like that.

1177
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I never played it, but I remember a friend of

1178
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 2>mine had it and going over to his house and

1179
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:15.840
<v Speaker 2>seeing it, and I was like at that point, I like,

1180
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:19.000
<v Speaker 2>at that point, I think I was like old enough

1181
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 2>to understand that it sucked, you know, like yeah, and

1182
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I could play GTA, So I'm like, why am I

1183
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 2>going to play this game? But I remember seeing it

1184
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.159
<v Speaker 2>and I'm be like, huh, bizarre.

1185
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean at that point, wouldn't have four been out

1186
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 1>or like coming out around then?

1187
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I think four was already out.

1188
00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, like what four was already out?

1189
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like what are you doing?

1190
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:37.559
<v Speaker 1>Why are you playing Godfather?

1191
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Why aren't you going bowling?

1192
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:40.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And GT four.

1193
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I was just remember when you would do a date

1194
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and something bad would happen. You'd be like, I'm sorry, Michelle,

1195
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:51.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what came over me because you're just

1196
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:53.119
<v Speaker 1>like shot like twenty people.

1197
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that game is so good. Yeah.

1198
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh, we're about to wrap up. I do want to

1199
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.119
<v Speaker 1>take a few minutes to briefly talk about a game

1200
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I started yesterday. Have more to say next week?

1201
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh fuck, I could I spend this her podcast go ahead.

1202
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:10.000
<v Speaker 1>So we'll just we'll just set it up because I

1203
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.599
<v Speaker 1>only play like an hour. But I did the other

1204
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>day watch RoboCop with my wife who had never seen

1205
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it and loved it. So we were on this big

1206
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 1>RoboCop high and you, mister Robocops game of the year

1207
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 1>can't beat GT six.

1208
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:33.039
<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, RoboCop Broke City, that one is the game

1209
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:35.480
<v Speaker 3>of the year, no matter what, even if G six comes.

1210
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>In and you were like you should play that, like

1211
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 1>continue off off that high, and it was on sale

1212
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:42.599
<v Speaker 1>and I was able to get it for five bucks

1213
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and that game fucking rule.

1214
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Some shits so cool it is.

1215
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I've said I'm gonna say everything you already

1216
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 1>said about it, but like I mean, like, first off,

1217
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the rope, like RoboCop himself, like the model looks like

1218
00:56:58.239 --> 00:56:58.920
<v Speaker 1>really good.

1219
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to see everyone, and then you see

1220
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:04.519
<v Speaker 4>it's like the well when they're still you're like, yeah,

1221
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.199
<v Speaker 4>that that looks like what's her name? And that looks

1222
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.800
<v Speaker 4>like the police chief guy. And then he talks, and

1223
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 4>first off, yeah, his animations, but also some of the

1224
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 4>voice acting is like really rough.

1225
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 2>His voice especially.

1226
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Compared to actually having Peter. Yeah, Peter sorry, oh yeah,

1227
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 3>he does a great job exactly.

1228
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:29.880
<v Speaker 1>But everyone else you're either like you're okay or like

1229
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you sound.

1230
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.639
<v Speaker 2>They blew all their their voice acting budget on. Some

1231
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.920
<v Speaker 2>of them are really bad, which is fine, you know, hey.

1232
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.559
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, but the level of detail, like it's just

1233
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like the police Station alone, where you like I was

1234
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>able having just seen the movie, I was like, wow,

1235
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.079
<v Speaker 1>that is exactly what that one room looked like, and

1236
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:52.559
<v Speaker 1>like the way they're able to flesh it out and

1237
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 1>connect it and it's very impressive and very faithful. And

1238
00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:01.599
<v Speaker 1>then just being a robo cop and just shooting people.

1239
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Ahead and throwing them and it's like one of those

1240
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:08.760
<v Speaker 3>things when you see the game play of that game,

1241
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:10.800
<v Speaker 3>like it looks stiff, but it has to be stuff

1242
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:11.519
<v Speaker 3>because your RoboCup.

1243
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:14.039
<v Speaker 1>But actually playing that game, it's very satisfying.

1244
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:14.960
<v Speaker 3>It feels so good.

1245
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, it also like it gets to a point where

1246
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.320
<v Speaker 2>there's no challenge at all. It's just like.

1247
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:22.920
<v Speaker 3>No challenge when you get when you get later in

1248
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:24.840
<v Speaker 3>that game, and then you start to upgrade all your

1249
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:26.920
<v Speaker 3>abilities and like what I was saying, like your service

1250
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.880
<v Speaker 3>pistol that is like multiply, like your ability to just

1251
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 3>destroy everything I'm really glad they didn't like gamify it

1252
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:37.960
<v Speaker 3>too much in the sense where they're like, oh, we

1253
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.800
<v Speaker 3>got to add like you should like want to take cover,

1254
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:42.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, like this, it's like no, no, no, no no.

1255
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 3>You should be like constantly just slowly walking forward and

1256
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.119
<v Speaker 3>just like bang bang bangs, wait till you get the

1257
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.360
<v Speaker 3>dash move. There's a dash move, and you could just

1258
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 3>pile through things like okay, I mean like busting through

1259
00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 3>the walls and it goes in slow motion. It goes

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<v Speaker 3>and you're doing like the brief. I think I have

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<v Speaker 3>more recorded clips. I did play this on my Xbox,

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<v Speaker 3>but I rebought out my PC. I think I have

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<v Speaker 3>more recorded clips of that game than any other thing

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<v Speaker 3>on my Xbox, like anything. If I open up my

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<v Speaker 3>Xbox app like app right now, it's probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>all clips from that game, because so much fucking funny

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<v Speaker 3>shit happened, and not like I mean just ridiculous shit

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<v Speaker 3>it would happen. I mean when you start fighting dudes

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<v Speaker 3>on motorcycles.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm only like an hour in, but already I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like this should be up there when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about like great licensed video games and Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>Move over, don't forget about RoboCop.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good. It's pretty damn good. And I gave

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<v Speaker 1>out a parking ticket. I sat there and listened to

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<v Speaker 1>people's complaints.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, listen to the radios yet. I haven't listened to

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<v Speaker 3>the radios yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's good. It's really good. And i'm you should

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<v Speaker 1>go watch RoboCop if you're if you're if you're feeling

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<v Speaker 1>depressed and just like the weight of the world's on

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<v Speaker 1>your shoulders, you don't want to pick you right up

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<v Speaker 1>watching RoboCop because that's what happened to me. I was

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<v Speaker 1>ribly depressed. And then we were like, well should we

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<v Speaker 1>do tonight? Really want to watch a movie? We watched

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<v Speaker 1>Robo Cop, and at the end of the night, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, life is worth living.

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<v Speaker 2>Things are good.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't get your hand blown off.

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<v Speaker 2>Robo Cop exists as a film.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't get this member of Shotguns, yeah, which is like,

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<v Speaker 1>is ironic because that movie paints a horrible dystopian future

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<v Speaker 1>that almost feels like it's more coming true every day.

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<v Speaker 1>But for whatever reason, playing the game it gave me comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Weirdly enough, the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Continues corporate political agenda nonsense that is pushed into Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>So cool, keeps going great. But it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's very good. So I'm having a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's rouble Cop, and I'm having.

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<v Speaker 2>A great time. Closing out this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening, everybody to another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Game Spot after Dark. We always appreciate your patronage,

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<v Speaker 1>your time with us. If you are listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>audio only, we actually have moved our time for live.

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<v Speaker 1>We're now doing it at ten am PT for the

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<v Speaker 1>foreseeable future. We just shift some things around the schedule. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer it because it kind of makes it a

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<v Speaker 1>little easier on our lives. But yeah, I always told

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<v Speaker 1>you if like, if things move around on the live end,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll update you. So that's the new time for now.

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<v Speaker 1>But whether you're listening to it on audio or live,

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<v Speaker 1>we just appreciate you all, and I appreciate you. Curtain Divina,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll accept that as a as truth.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Jean Luke, thank you, thanks to you and Jacob you're here

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your birthday. You can go fuck yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, all right, and with that we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you all next time.

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<v Speaker 2>See ya, Da