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Speaker 1: You were listening to Petlifradio dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello everybody here here, I am doctor Jeff Warber

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here on this wonderful fourth of July, and from any

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of you, hopefully you'll be able to listen in because

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you're not going to be at work.

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Speaker 3: I'm not at work.

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Speaker 2: I actually am here in my office just to do

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the show and also of course to check on my patients.

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But it's a great to hear in southern California. It's

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been really actually pretty cool. Anyway, I wanted to first

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of all let you know that you can get a

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hold of me here at eight seven seven three eight

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five eight eight eight two on the pet Life Radio

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the Vets with doctor Jeff and we're talking pets.

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Speaker 3: That's why we're here.

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And again if you call in all right, and if

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you get to nerve the courage to give us a

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We want to see you, and I'm here with Mark

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Winter from pet Life radio also taking time on this

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life fourth to spend the half hour with us, and

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you can join us. We'd like to hear from you.

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So if you have Google Plus, you know see if

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you can click on and find us. Anyway, one of

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the things we started talking about last week and I

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realized that just a half hour goes so fast, is

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the dangers of the fourth of July. And of course,

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you know, we love it and we want to hang

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with our pets. But some of the things that concern us.

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Let's talk first the foods. So we're going to be barbecuing,

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and we got this stuff grilling, and we got the

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hot dogs and the hamburgers and whatever it is, and

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all the accouterments and the condiment and the desserts and

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the apple pie and the chocolate. And there's a lot

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there that could be dangerous and post threats to our pets,

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So be careful. Too much fatty food is not good. Chocolate,

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of course is not good. But one thing that we

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see a lot of that I'm trying to really prevent

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and guard against, and that is corn cobs. And of

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all the things we think about, as bad as some

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of these things, our dog gets a hold of too

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much fat in the food. They get pancretitis. Yes, we

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can treat it. Chocolate toxicity. It's got to be really bad.

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They got to eat a lot of it to be

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that toxic, and yes we can treat it. But these

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are medical diseases, whereas the corn cob is a surgical disease.

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Speaker 3: What happens is.

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Speaker 2: The diameter of that corn cob is just a little

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bit larger than the diameter of the small intestine in

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certain places, and the intestine can only stretch so much,

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so the dog will swallow that corn cub and it'll

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make it into the stomach, and then it can leave

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the stomach into the duadena, which is the first part

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of the small intestine, and somewhere as it's going through

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the dijunum, which is sort of the middle major part

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of the intestine, and finally into the ilium. And as

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it's approaching, the ilium gets narrow and all of a sudden,

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you have a blockage. Now not only is it a

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block but what happens is the corn cob puts so

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much pressure on the wall of that intestine it starts

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to block off the blood supply to the actual intestine,

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and so what happens is we have a necrotic, dying

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piece of intestine that will often rupture and we will

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have oozing leaking and the intestine setting up a major

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problem called peritonitis. So we have to make sure that

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animals stay away from these corn cobs to avoid that

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blockage and ultimate intestinal perforation.

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Speaker 3: Where the problem is they do like those.

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Speaker 2: Corn cobs, and like many dogs as we know, including

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my own, they will swallow faster than chew, so they

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don't successfully break up the corn cop. Now, interestingly, we

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had won this week. We had a French bulldog, really

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had an adorable dog, and she did get hold of

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the corn cop and she chewed it, but one of

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the pieces lodged in the pylorus, which is the part

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of the stomach that leads into the small intestine, so

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she couldn't pass anything. So everything she would each you

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would vomit and it wouldn't go one way or the other.

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It was lodged, and therefore we ended up having to

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do surgery to go in and pull out that piece

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of corn cop. And man, this carn cop was black.

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It already started to get into krotic. The tissue was

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looking ugly. So really, I can't stress enough the importance

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of when you're throwing stuff away and that great barbecue.

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Don't ruin your fun and your good time by having

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a dog get really sick. So throw that stuff away

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definitely important. So let's talk about fireworks. You know, we'd

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mentioned last week. I think we're not giving enough time

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to learn how to desensitize your We talked about the

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sound effects tape. So for now, make sure your dog

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is wearing identification, keep them indoors, try and make sure

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they don't bolt out they may try, and maybe put

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them in a room with their favorite toys, and then

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maybe a little treat and put on some music, put

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on the TV, something that might just kind of block

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out some of the sounds of the fireworks.

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Speaker 3: And don't over coddle your dogs.

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Speaker 2: Because what you do is when you do that, is

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they end up being reinforced for that fearful behavior. So

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they're gonna do it even more, you know, Don't be

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mean to them, but just kind of let them be

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in the room, let them do their own thing, give

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them some food, putting on the music, put on the TV,

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and leave them alone. Don't pay too much attention sometimes

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with dogs will act out and do what we call

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attention getting behavior because they see that they're getting attention,

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even though the behavior is a bad behavior. So you

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want to be careful. Let's see, cats they're tough, you know.

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find a place to hide. But typically my cat's all

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six of them are indoors. They don't seem to be

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too bothered by it. They chill with each other, but

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it's nice to go up and enjoy the fireworks. Just

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make sure your pets are safe. Oh and the reason

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for the IDA and even identification for an indoor cat, say,

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is that is that if they do freak out and

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someone leaves the door open, people are coming here, going

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they can break through a window. I mean, my dogs

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just the other day broke through a screen door. Not

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because they were worried about fireworks. They could care less,

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but they saw the pool. And I have the five dogs,

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but three of them are major swimmers. And even my

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friend he's going the pool not willingly. They usually fall in,

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but they know how to find the steps. So anyway,

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I would like to hear from you. Plus, if you

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give us a call, we're going to send you out

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a pro sense product of your liking. So and it's free,

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so give us a call it eight seven seven three

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eight five eight eight eight two because I want to

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know any problems you've been having with fourth or July,

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or it's just any other question you want to give

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us a question, I mean give us a call.

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Speaker 3: We'll answer your question.

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Speaker 2: Online live, because we are here at pet Life Radio,

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the only live broadcast where you get to ask me

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questions and I hopefully get to answer them. Come on,

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I am spending my fourth of July inside on Skype

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on Google Plus talking to you on pet Life Radio.

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So make it worth my while and at least answer

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some questions.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So, anyway, while you're getting the courage, I wanted to

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talk about, we had some things going on skin wise

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with this time of year, and it's probably the number

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one problem I see this time of year are going

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to be allergies and dogs that manifest allergic disease. Usually

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inhaled allergies or flea allergies or sometimes even food allergies

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are all skin related. In other words, when a person

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has a food hypersensitivity, what do they do? They have

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gastrointestinal signs. When a person inhales an allergy in like

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a pollen hey fever, they have respiratory signs. But when

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it comes to animals, our dogs, especially whether it's flea,

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whether it's pollen, whether it's going to be from the

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two foods, it's going to be all skin. Typically, though

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dogs haven't read the book. The skin problems in the

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lower back, that means the base of the tail, the

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rump area, those are flea related. If the problems are

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inside the groin, on the abdomen, the backs of the thighs,

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you got to think inhaled allergies. And if the dogs

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are going nuts over their feet, sometimes rubbing their faces

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sometimes even ears, think food allergy. Now, of course, any

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dog is allergic to one thing may allergic to other things,

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and they are boundaries, and these boundaries are crossed.

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Speaker 3: But typically well, at least we have an idea.

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Speaker 2: Now, cats, on the other hand, they suffer from something

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called miliary dermatitis, and regardless of the source of the allergy,

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whether it's flea, whether it's pollen's, whether it's environmental, whether

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it's food, whatever it is, they're going to get these

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lesions almost anywhere in the body.

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Speaker 3: So there's no rhyme or reason.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they don't give us any help to determine what

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the source of the allergy might be based on the

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location of the clinical science, So cats kind of make

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it more of a diagnostic challenge. Now forst treatment, one

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of the complicators of allergy are going to be bacterial

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allergic or so you said, bacterial skin disease, and we

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call this pioderma, and pioderma in dogs is usually not

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primary I mean it could be, but excuse me not.

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So when we see pioderma in a dog that skin infection, pustules,

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erythema scams its sores, we're always looked for primary cause,

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and typically this time of year, that primary cause is

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going to be allergic skin disease.

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Speaker 3: But if we.

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Speaker 2: Don't treat the pioderma, we're going to be unsuccessful in

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treating the skin disease. And because there are no specific

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anti allergy drugs for skin just yet, we have to

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work with the immune system either. We're trying to suppress

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the symptoms, the signs, the scratching, the irritation, the actual reaction.

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We do that with using corticosteroids, which a lot of

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us don't like to use or we actually suppress the

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entire immune system with medication for example, called cyclosporine. But again,

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we don't have a specific anti allergy drug, though there

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is one on the horizon and we're hoping to see

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it maybe in January. It's about all I can tell you,

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but it is, let's put it this way, the histamine

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of human allergy, which is the cellular mediator which is

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mediating the allergic response in people, thus allowing us to

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use anti histamines to comback the allergic reaction. We are

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a drug will be introduced soon enough that is going

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to actually attack the canine allergic response at the cellular level,

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so we won't need steroids, we won't need to suppress

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the entire immune system. We can actually block the mediator

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responsible for the allergic skin disease. I think that's really

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cool because and that's as I said, we're hoping to

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hear something about this come January now. So it's important

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as we treat these animals to try to minimize or

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remove the offending allergen. If that infending allergen is a flea,

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then we want to take care of the fleas. If

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the offending allergen is pollens. Ah, now we're in trouble.

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We can't put your dog in a plastic bubble, so

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we need to maybe consider trying to desensitize. But in

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order to desensitize, we first have to identify what those

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offending allergens are. How when it comes to foods, Oh

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my god, however difficult it is to identify the pollens

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when it comes to foods, it's even worse. And to

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try to do it this time of year when you're

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not sure whether the problem is food or pollen, because

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sometimes as overlap, you might be going through a lot

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of hard work and unsuccessfully if we don't try to

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identify or minimize this seasonal allergens first. In fact, what

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I recommend doing, and we'll get back to it when

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we come back from our break. We're going to take

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It's something that we see this time of year very frequently,

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and we are still waiting to hear from you at

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to you. So, we were talking about skin allergies and

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the overlap especially in dogs, and that when it comes

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to food allergies, which are very difficult to diagnose, this

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time of year makes it more difficult because of the

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common allergens we see creating problems in dogs.

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Speaker 3: So if you start what's called.

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Speaker 2: The dietary elimination now, it might be unsuccessful because of

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the pollen and environmental allergens that we're seeing. So I

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think that what I recommend to my clients for my

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patients is if we're going to suspect food allergy, I

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want to wait before doing an elimination till like maybe

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September October, all right, because by that point a lot

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of the season allergies will be over. And if the

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pet is still exhibiting signs as they say, chewing at

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the feet real badly, rubbing at the ears, ear, infections

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in the mouth. So now I think, you know what,

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you need to see a veterinarian or see ave internety

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dermatologists and they will either do a blood test or

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skin scratch testing. Some of the newer blood tests are

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very effective, very specific and successful and identifying allergens. So

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we do is we can do a blood test, and

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they can do is like what we call seasonal screens.

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pollens and the weeds and the molds that are typical

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of southern California, and they start testing and to identify

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which dogs seem to be exhibiting more of a response

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to these diseases. And then are these conditions these allergens,

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I should say, and therefore would have a lot of allergies.

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Once the determination's made as to what the allergens are,

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whether it's household allergens like wool, cotton, kpex, tobacco, smoke,

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dog dander. Interestingly, yes, your dog, give me allergic to

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got molds, house dust, house dust mites. So all these

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things would be potential allergens in the house, feathers and pillow,

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I mean, just like people are. It's insane. And then

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certainly all the trees, weeds and pollens, insects, bees and wasps,

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and of course the foods. So once the determination is made,

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when it comes to the inhaled allergens or the insect

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allergens or the molds, your veterinarian can have a solution

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made up of specific antigens delivered in very small amounts

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at first, either by injection or actually sublingually. Now there

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are kits that will have sublingual antigen that you give

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it home every day and gradually increasing the concentration to

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slowly build up the body's own resistance to these allergens.

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So it's fascinating. It's just like you know, you're a kid.

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I'm sure many of you had allergie shots. I used

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to get allergy shots, used to go into the doctor,

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and you know, first it was frequent and then became

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a little less frequent. And it's the same thing if

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you're going to do the injections. You start out with

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injections every other day typically, and then you start going

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to quite a couple of times a week, and then

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once a week, and then every other week, and then

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finally when you get to maintenance, you're using a much

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stronger solution, but you're only getting the shots every four

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to six weeks. And in this way we actually can

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enhance and build up the body's own immunity to these allergens.

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close to eighty percent maybe seventy five percent success in

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either completely eradicating the allergies, more likely minimizing them to

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the point where the dog needs less antibiotics, is scratching less,

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is irritating themselves much less than they have in the past.

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and this is as I said, this is done through

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what we call a food elimination and either starting with

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what we call a novel protein diet. This is a

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diet that has a protein source and a carbohydrate source

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that your pet has probably never seen. And the importance

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of that is that even if in time they might

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be allergic to this protein or this hydrate, it takes

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a while to build up the allergy. So if you

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start something, for example, bison or rabbit or venison, the

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more common allergens nowadays are beef, lamb and poultry because

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almost every single food has those. So we need to

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find something that the dog is probably never seen then,

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I know, like fish, salmon and potato, or venison and

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green pea, or rabbit and green pea. So once you

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have these novel proteins or there are also some hydrolyzed

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protein diets, diets that don't even have whole proteins in them,

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so the body can't treat it as an allergen because

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it has no protein at all, and it's bits and pieces,

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it's parts of the protein, so the nutritional value is there,

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but nothing that the body is going to react to.

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you are very strict in a six to eight week

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course of feeding either this non allergenic diet or at

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least a novel protein diet, assuming your pet's not allergic

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to the one protein you chose for the non allergenic

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or the hydrolyzed protein or the novel protein diet, then

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your dog will improve. And if it does, then you

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know that it was food. Alogy if it doesn't, either

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you cheated either by the dog got a hold of

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it has been getting hold of something that he or

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she is allergic to and you just didn't know they

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were eating it a treat that you were giving, or

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a chew toy that you thought was safe but wasn't

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all right, or the novel protein that you chose. Interestingly,

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and sadly, the dog is allergic to that too. But

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if you were really strict, and I mean really strict,

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and during the course of the six eight week trial

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you fed nothing else other than that, and the pet

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was not allergic to whatever that protein and carbohydrate are,

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then you will see an improvement. At this point, what

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you want to start doing is gradually, one protein at

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a time, start introducing some new proteins. Try if it

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was venison that worked successfully, try adding some lamb.

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Speaker 3: All right, so.

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Speaker 2: Try maybe a poultry, maybe fish ideal. Great to try

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a few things that will give your dog a little

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bit of selection, a little bit of a variety. But

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when you feed, or if you try something and within

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a day or two the dog is going out its

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feed or rubbing in his ears or facing in stop

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it immediately. You don't have to do another six weeks.

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Just know that cross that off your list. That's not

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a good protein or carb to feed your dog. When

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you're doing the test. Try to add one of the

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time as well, because I think that will help identify.

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Speaker 3: So then you can make your own list of.

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Speaker 2: Carbs, proteins, ingredients that your dog seems to do well on.

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It seems like proteins are the most allergenic, so that's

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where we seem to have the most what we call

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antigenicity when it comes to proteins. So be careful when

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you are going to a pet store and looking for

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that novel food or that allergy or antiology because if

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you look at those ingredients, they are typically more than

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one potential protein source that could be causing problems in

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your pet.

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Speaker 3: So when you're getting to the.

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Speaker 2: Point of finally giving in and saying, you know, you

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know what, I gotta do this for my poor guy

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because he's scratching or she's scratching like crazy, I recommend

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you work with your veterinarian because I don't know if

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of many over the counter foods and I mean non

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prescription diets that are truly truly hypoallergenic or truly hydrolyzed

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protein other than that available from your veterinarian. If you

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find when, that's great, But even still, I would just

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check with your veterinarian or veterinary dermatologists to make sure

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that's okay.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, once we.

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Speaker 2: Have all this stuff done, now we can successfully start

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to ease the symptoms of allergy. And as I said,

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come to January, keep in touch with the veterinarian. There's

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a really good chance that we're going to have something

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new out there that's going to help. So I would

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like to hear from you. Send me an email to

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doctor Jeff at petlife radio dot com. That's Drgef at

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or come here. Don't be bashful, and you can even

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ask us a question here online. But we want to

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hear from you. I want to hear if you've had

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any problems with allergies pet allergies, and of course fourth

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of July, in fact next week, next Thursday, no excuses.

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If you want some free pro sense product, give us

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But I want to hear how fourth of July went

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for you, and whether your pets survived or whether your

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pets didn't do didn't fare as well as I would like,

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any other questions you want to hear any and again

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be shy about. It's just me and you. We don't

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have a zillion million people watching it. They don't know

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who you are anyway, give me a fake name, but

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at least we can hear from you and answer some

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of your questions. So anyway, as I look outside, I'm

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sitting here in my office and there's a great window,

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and I'm seeing some blue skies and a nice breeze

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and just under eighty degrees. I want to thank you

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for tuning in and joining me on this Fourth of

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July weekend, and I want to hear from you next week.

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So I'll be here next Thursday at one o'clock Western

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or just say Pacific time, four o'clock Eastern. And you're

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gonna want to thank Pro Sense Pet Products and more, Target, Walgreens,

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all those fun places, good places where you can find process.

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Speaker 3: Have a great fourth We'll see you next week.

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