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Speaker 1: And hello, how are you welcome? Welcome to the Big

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Podcast on this Friday. Today's the fifth day of June,

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year of our lower twenty twenty six. My name is

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Tom Sullivan, and so actually pretty busy Friday. They've been

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that way lately. We've got the others. They're still yeah,

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they're still counting out in California. It's the election was

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on Tuesday. But hey, no rush there. We've got the

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latest on the jobs report for the month of May

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came out this morning. Update on Iran. But I want

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to start. Oh, and Graham Plattner getting a lot of

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attention on the news wheel today because Maine is having

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their primary on Tuesday. So as you get down toward

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election day, all of a sudden, all the opposition research

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comes out, and there's a lot of it. But I

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want to start with Bill Poulty. The ruckus about Bill

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Poulty is still very pronounced because of the fact that

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he was picked by the President to be the office

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the Director of the Office of National Intelligence, and Wall

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Street Journal interviewed the President today and asked him, why

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did you pick this guy? He doesn't have any background

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at all in intelligence none. He came from from the

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housing industry, and he seems to cause problem wherever he goes.

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But the President said that he hired Bill Poulty and

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he wants him to be there temporarily, whatever that means.

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But he hired him to be for the reason of

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be firing a large number of employees as part of

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a shakeup of the US Intelligence Committee, and that he

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also wants him to basically declassify and release a lot

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of classified documents. So this gets interesting because I'm all

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for shrinking government. I think there's a lot of bloat,

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and I would imagine that in the eighteen intelligence agencies

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that Bill Poulty will be overseen, there's probably a lot

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of bloat. So if he is hired, asked that who

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was it yesterday? He called him a hitman. It's kind

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of what he is. He's a hatchet guy, hatchet man,

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and he's going to be going in there and cutting

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and trimming down our national intelligence units to be much

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much smaller. So the President told Wall Street Journal he says,

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I'd like to see it smaller. I think there are

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a lot of people in there that should not be there,

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and that he wants him to start the process. Remember,

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the President from the day he was elected Trump one

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point zero. He has not liked the intelligence units, he

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has not liked the FBI, he hasn't liked the CIA.

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He doesn't like any of those because of the fact

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that they were involved in Russia, Russia, Russia, and he

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has never forgotten it. And he also one thing he

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has never forgotten, and he has stayed staunchly in the

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story of the twenty twenty election, that it was rigged,

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it was stolen. And immediately a lot of people him

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out and say, uh, there's no there's no evidence of that. Well,

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I think what this is is he's going to have

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Bill Poulty try and go in and release a lot

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of the national intelligence that was done about Trump and

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the accusations of him being involved with Russia, and he's

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going to unveil whatever it was that the CIA or

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the FBI, the files, what they said, what they found.

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I know we had the Mueller investigation, but this is

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going to be I think what President Trump wants him

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to do. So stand by, I mean buckle buckle up

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a little bit, because I think this is going to

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be kind of wild. So the guy who did the

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interview for the Wall Street Journal is Brian Schwartz, and

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this is his recount of how the interview went today.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's really thinking too deeply into the stake,

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because I think he's looking at the person that he's

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selected for this job. And Bill Poulty now the acting

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head of this Office of National Intelligence, and thinking what

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he did at the Federal Housing Agency where he cut

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over one hundred employees, and he believes that he can

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take that same model and bring it right into that

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same pivotal office. And of course it's the Director of

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National Intelligence. He's overseeing what eighteen or so agencies and

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different divisions that are for our intelligence gatherings. And the

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President made very clear to me that the message she

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gave to Bill Poulti was he believed it was time

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to winnow down that that agency and it was time

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to really start looking at further cuts to personnel. And

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it's going to be really interesting to see how far

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Poulty is willing to go. But based on his track

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record that we at the Wall Street Journal have been

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covering extensively for almost two years, this is kind of

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his poltice moo. This is what he does in part

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over at the Federal Housing agency itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why he's not like because he's a hatchemn.

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He goes in and fires a bunch of people. You

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think you think Elon Musk fired a lot of people

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on when he had Doge. Well, this is kind of

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a more specific example of it. But again it is

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there's some animosity between the president and our national intelligence services.

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So Paulty is the guy, and he wants him to

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go in there, not because of his intelligence, he has

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no intelligence background. He wants them to go in there

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and basically fire a lot of people in our national

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intelligence units.

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Speaker 2: Similar things that we've been wondering at the Journal ourselves.

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Why is he going with Poulty in this acting role. Well,

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it turns out at least it seems like that was

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by in design. It was basically, you know, to put

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him in there so we can be unshackled. And so

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Congress will of course have oversight in a way over this,

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but there's not going to be some confirmation bow over

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his actions or anything the President says that he expects

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him to do. And of course for the White House

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or the President for Paulty, that's a big bonus if

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they're going to go after people within the intelligence apparatus

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the United States, and I think you're going to see

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a lot more outcry from those same Republicans on the Hill.

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But I'll also point out, right before I came on here,

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Tom Cotton put out a social media post making it

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very clear, of course, you know how important he is

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in the intelligence world Trump's world, that he supports pretty

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much everything the President told us that he expects Bill

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Poulty to do. So it'll be fascina and see where

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everybody lands on this on the Hill.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tom Cotton, obviously, if he's supporting it, he must

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be supporting the fact that the intelligence units are bloated,

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that they just have a lot of people. So well,

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back to Brian Schwartz, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's it's kind of a little bit of both.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: He did tell me that he believes that there are

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people there who should not be there, and then he

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started talked about, you know, paste past administrations and the

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people in that office from those administrations working national intelligence,

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that they should not be there as well. But I

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do think there's this kind of there's a bit of

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him that is thinking about that kind of so called

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deep state that's still in his mind. Something he really

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does believe in looking back into his past political career

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and how that's so called you know, peace of the

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intelligence world may have impacted him in sof way, and

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I think that's still in his mind greatly, and that's

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partially maybe why he's bringing Pulty to handle this for now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Donald Trump, this isn't just some election thing

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that he said. He really truly wants retribution. He wants

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to go in and sort out all the people who

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have ever ever crossed his path the wrong way. And

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also he has not shaken his belief in the rigged

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twenty twenty election. According to him.

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Speaker 2: I went through a whole litany of different topics. One

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of them, of course, is the election I talked about.

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I asked him about like anything around COVID nineteen. Remember

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this was something else that got brought up after he

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was president, or questions around that, conspiratorial things around that,

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and that led to him saying what you just said,

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I want him to declassify everything. And that's something else

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to really watch here. I mean, Tolci Gabbert did that

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in a way, right, She did things around I believe

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the twenty sixteen election and the Muller Probe or things

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around that nature, maybe the larger investigations in the present

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that time. And now it appears the President wants Poulty

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to go much further than that.

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Speaker 1: So, reading from some of the article that Brian Schwartz

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wrote for the Journal today, he quotes the President of saying, frankly,

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it might be good for him to shake it up

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before people come, because if A Pulty reduced the size

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in conjunction with me and in conjunction with possibly the

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person coming in, he can do a lot of the

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hard work and we wouldn't have to saddle somebody that

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goes in. So the President is really looking at Pulty

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as a hit man. Go in, take out a lot

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of people, disclose a lot of classified documents, and then

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we'll get somebody else to come in and become the

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head of the national intelligence Last well, a couple days ago,

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the Senate Majority Leader John Thune said, we don't need

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a weaponized DNI. But this is complicating a push to

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reauthorize the powerful surveillance program section seven h two of

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the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. So the Senate is supposed

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to move forward on reauthorizing this program, but it failed

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because a lot of the senators are concerned about the

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role that Poultie will have. So it's shaking up an

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awful lot in Washington. But the President gets to pick

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whoever he wants, and this guy is not subject to

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Senate confirmation because of the fact he's only going to

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be an acting Director of National Intelligence. But again, on

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releasing classified documents, just buckle up, That's all I can say.

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Now on to another controversial character, and that's this Graham Plattner,

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who is an oyster fisherman in Maine. And you know,

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if the opposition research has dirt on you, they're going

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to release it pretty close to election day. Well, the primary,

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like I said, is Tuesday in Maine, and so all

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the dirt on Graham platter Ner is coming out. There's

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a bunch of women that have come forward, and New

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York Times did an extensive article about the women and

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about half of there's about a dozen of about half

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of them said no big deal. The other half said

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that this guy scared them and was said sexually aggressive things.

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And in any case, you throw sex into it, and

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you throw a bunch of women coming forward, and you've

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got opposition research and they're going to paint this guy

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to be the worst guy ever. What's actually it's not humorous.

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how could you, Democrats? How could you possibly nominate this guy?

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How could you possibly you? Democrats? In May? How could

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you vote for this guy? In fact, this goes back

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to when Kavanaugh was up for being nominated to be

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a Supreme Court justice. Let me just play a clip

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of Schumer and Kristen Gillibrand and anyway, a bunch of

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Democrats talking about how you must respect women's complaints.

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Speaker 4: For too long, women have made serious allegations of abuse

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and have been ignored or dragged through the mud.

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Speaker 1: The question is do we value women? And that's the

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fundamental question.

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Speaker 2: Do we believe women?

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Speaker 1: I believe her. I believe doctor Ford. I still believe her.

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She has the courage to come forward.

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Speaker 5: She has nothing the gang.

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Speaker 6: I just want to say to the men of this

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country to shut up and step up, do the right

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Speaker 1: So they were outraged about the women that came forward,

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pointing at Kavanaugh. So what was her name, doctor Ford?

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other foot and they're basically protecting Platner and Roe Conna

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is going to be I think tonight maybe. If not tonight,

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it's tomorrow going to be in Maine basically campaigning with Platner.

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somewhat ironic is Republicans are just outraged about this guy

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who's a Democrat, and yet at the same time, the

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Democrats just two weeks ago were outraged about Ken Paxton

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being the He's the Attorney General of Texas that has

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won over John Cornyn to be the Republican nominee for

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the US Senate from Texas, and he's got a checkered

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path and involving women, and so take your pick, and

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it just makes you wonder, this is the best we

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can find. I mean, I'm I'm not looking to look

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up on some pedestal for senators, but uh gosh, they

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should be somewhat decent people. So listen to this guy.

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His name is Alex Sites, and he has a newspaper

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in Maine called The Mid Coast Villager. So he tells

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a story about the fact that he's got a cafe

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below his newspaper office, and he goes down there to

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get a feel of the pulse of the community. Listen

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to what he says about the women, and they're talking

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about whether they're going to vote for Platin or not.

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Speaker 5: What I'm hearing is that partisanship is a very powerful

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force in American politics, no surprise, but it's amazing to

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see it happening here. My newspaper, the Mid Coast Villager

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and Camden, Maine. We have a cafe that's right beneath

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our newsroom where I'm talking to you from right now,

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and every Friday morning we have open office hours where

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the public can come and talk to editors, pitch stories,

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complain about a headline. And this morning I was down

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there and of course this came up. We had four women,

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so I wanted their take, all four of them left leaning.

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They read the c Bridge. They don't think it's fake,

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They believe it. They found his behavior gross, as one

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put it, ikey is another put it, And they really

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didn't like what he's doing to his wife, putting her

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through this as they perceived it, And they didn't like

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the way that he is kind of casting aspersions on

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the media or as they felt, not really taking ownership.

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That said, despite all that, one of them was about

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to go leave and vote early for Grant Platner in

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Tuesday's primary, and all four of them said that they

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were sticking with him. They want to beat Susan Collins.

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They think the stakes are so high for control of

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the Senate for Supreme Court justices, and they feel like

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Platner is their only and best choice to do that.

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There is a provision in Maine state law where the

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nominee could be replaced, but he would have to drop

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out by July thirteenth, and there's so far no indication

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that that's going to happen. But they're uncomfortable with this.

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They are worried that there's another shoe that's going to drop.

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And Susan Collins wins this state by winning ticket splitters.

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In twenty twenty, she won about fifty seven thousand votes

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from people who voted for Joe Biden at the top

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of the ticket and then moved down the ballot and

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voted for her. So she doesn't need that many Democrats

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to break from Graham Platner in order to still win

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in November.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that great. So the guy interviews these four

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women and they're all outraged about Graham Plattner, how terrible

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he is, how gross he is. Andy had all four

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of them said yeah, but I'm voting for him, so see.

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But then then Susan Collins people split the ticket. They

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voted for Biden but voted for her, so they did

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a Democrat Republican vote in twenty twenty four. It's well,

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Carl Roev always puts some analysis on this, and he

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speaks from the Republican side. So let's see what Carl says.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my personal favorite is Sheldon white white House of

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Rhode Island. Wonderfully appealing, he says of Platner. Is it

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appealing the Nazi tattoo or the race postings white old blacks?

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Speaker 1: Ever?

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Speaker 6: Tip is it the question of sexual misconduct that makes

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him appealing? Is that the inflammatory Reddit postings? Is it

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him taking a noted American hero Chris Kyle and saying

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outrageous things about what he supposedly did in Iraq? I mean,

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this guy is a disaster and Democrats are stuck with him.

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White House gave him ten thousand dollars from his own

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campaign committee and gave him that wonderful go get him

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wonderfully appealing label. But Democrats are stuck the primaries next week.

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Janet Mills, the governor who got into the race early

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on and then Withdrew, is still on the ballot. But

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Maine's going to nominate in my opinion, Platner, and it's

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going to be a rough time for them in the

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fall election.

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Speaker 1: I'm with Carl. He's a bad dude, but he's probably

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going to be the nominee. He probably he has a

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very good chance of beating to and call So. But

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then again, I think Ken Paxton is a moral mess,

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but I think he's going to win as well. He'll

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be the Senator from Texas. So we'll get these people

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in the US Senate and let's we'll find out whether

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or not we find it entertaining or we are disgusted,

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whatever it might be. All Right, speaking of elections, So California,

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there's still counting. They are still counting. Here's Steve Hilton

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on the latest.

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Speaker 7: It just shows you that the competence level of government

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in California has just completely collapsed in sixteen years of

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Democrat one party rule. And it's just not another example

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of why we so desperately need change. I'm actually putting

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forward an offer to you know with some specifics that

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we that could be implemented by Gavin Newsom now to

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speed up this election, to accelerate the outcome around the world.

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They're laughing at California, saying, these guys that think that

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the head of the center of the technology revolution, AI,

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silicon value, all of these things, they're changing the world,

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but they can't run an election.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they can't run a state either. That's how befuddled

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they are about everything. I mean, if you were if

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you're going to work for a company and there's a

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you're one of fifty people and you all have projects

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you're supposed to be doing, or you're in call, you're

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in school and fifty kids in the class and you're

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supposed to take a test. Everybody's done, and you're still

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there days after days, weeks after weeks, and they think

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everything that's fine, and they got to know that they're

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doing something terribly wrong, but they just don't understand what

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a messed up state. So Shannon Breem is talking about California,

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and listen, she brings up the point that I brought

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up yesterday. The longer this sits out there, and the

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just cases and cases and truckloads and truckloads of mail

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in ballots, and the longer it goes and they find

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another truckload of ballots somewhere that, oh, we forgot about

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that one. It's going to lead to all kinds of

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questions and doubts about the validity, and it will certainly

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spurn all kinds of conspiracy stories or conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be, and that's why it potentially sparks

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real trouble for people who say, listen, you open the

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door to conspiracy theories and conjecture about what's actually going on.

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Wall Street Journal Editorial Board has a very interesting piece saying, listen,

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there could be nothing sinister here. But they call it

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indefensible that a state like California has not figured this out.

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When state it's like Florida, you know, election night, exactly

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what's happening. So maybe take some pointers. You know, blue states,

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red states, they're all they're laboratories of democracy. But you know,

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maybe there's a different way to do this now. Governor

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k Newsom did sign a bill last year that shortens

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and says counties have to have all their ballots counted

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in thirteen days. It used to be thirty days. But

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there are extensions too, so I don't know that that

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solves the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in business, it's called best practices. You find other

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companies that are in your industry, and the one who

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does it the best, you try to follow whatever best

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practices they use and you adopt them. We think California

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could find one other state in the nation that does

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it faster than them, that'd be forty nine of the

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fifty and just adopt some of their practices. But it's

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still they are. We're laughing at California. But it will

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bring up all kinds of conspiracy theories. You can count

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on it, all, Right, the war? What war? Remember the war? Oh? Yeah,

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it's going to be solved anytime soon. We're right close

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to a deal.

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Speaker 8: As far as the Red's concerned.

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Speaker 1: You're going to find out what the deal is.

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Speaker 8: But the main part of the deal is that can't

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have a nuclear weapon. The strait will open immediately. You

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know it's going to open immediately, and we've lost argually

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swept for mine.

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Speaker 1: So all they got to do is a degree to

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those two things. But somehow it's not happening. General Team,

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I think he listen to listen to this. I think

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he's throwing into towel, going there's no deal is going

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to happen. I agree with him.

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Speaker 9: The truth is they suggested we go into this diplomatic

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mode because when they shut down the straighttion moves, they said,

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we can work out a deal and we'll open it

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up in two weeks. Well, here we are eight weeks later.

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They've never opened it up, and they keep kicking out

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the idea that we can make a deal, and I

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think we have to accept the reality that's just not

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going to happen. They have one motive in mind here.

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Stretch out negotiations as much as possible, get as close

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to the political situation in terms of midterm elections, and

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it will be less likelihood that President Trump would have

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a pull the trigger and go back to the military operation.

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Speaker 1: I have to admit, I think the Iranians are pretty smart.

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They don't believe Trump will go back to military action.

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I don't either. Well, do we stay in stalemate position forever?

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Michael Allen weighs in.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I don't personally doubt the will and strength

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of the president. I think that he would resume the

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use of force under certain conditions. I'm just more worried

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about the messaging to them. You mentioned that he's messaging

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the oil markets. I think he is. But when we

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message the regime leadership, I think what they're hearing is

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in definite ceasefire, no more use of force on the table.

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So I do think we need to be more clear

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about the or else what exactly is going to happen

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to Aron if they don't cooperate, how do we get

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them out of the status quo? I think the White

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House knows this, and we're seeing glimpses of it going forward,

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but we definitely need to articulate very clearly what the

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US interests are and how we're going to achieve them.

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Speaker 1: I agree, but it can't be we're going to blow

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up the Smith rings.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I think we should roll General Kin, the Chairman of

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the Joint Chiefs, out and lay out the military plan,

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not specific so that they can know what we're going

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to do, but lay out the fact that our military

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has the ability to do X, Y and Z and

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that we're going to do it, and give them a

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drop dead date, literally a drop dead date. So Kareem

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Sajapor from the Carnegie Institute knows iron like the back

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of his hand.

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Speaker 11: I do think that President Trump over the last several

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months is always consistently, you know, he's been overly optimistic

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about the likelihood of a resolution. Iran is in less

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of a hurry to resolve this issue. They're sticking to

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their demands, and so I do think that doesn't seem

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like the two sides are anywhere near resolution to a

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the phase one of this deal. Well, since the nineteen

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seventy nine revolution and shortly thereafter the creation of Lebanese

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has Beulah, Iran has always prioritized Lebanon, not uh to

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advance the interests of Lebanese citizens, but to use Lebanese

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soil to attack Israel. And so I think you saw

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on that interview which President al Own of Lebanon dial

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with with Christian the enormous frustration of and thinks he

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speaks for many Lebanese that you know, Lebanon is a

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country which is teetered on economic bankruptcy and it will

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never be able to thrive so long as it's kind

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of a uh, you know, view viewed and considered to be,

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you know, part of the proxy war between Iran and Israel.

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And so that is a leverage that Iran has and

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that it's said that it wants Lebanon to be part

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of any ceasefire agreement. And frank here is a source

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of tension between America and Israel because President Trump is

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keen to do this deal with Iran and Israeli saying this,

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and this is a national security concern. We can't simply

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sit on our hands while militia on our northern border

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continues to attack us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Hesba law the court. According to Iran, they're going, okay, okay, okay,

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we'll do a deal with the US, but first you've

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got to include hebe Law in as part. They're part

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of us. They never used to admit that they were

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part of them, but now they do. And so they're saying, yeah,

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we want we want you to make Israel stop attacking

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his Belaw And Israel says, wait a minute, they're attacking us.

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We've got to defend ourselves. Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of State,

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this is his thought.

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Speaker 12: Yes, well, actualy, it can't. And by the way, it's clarifying.

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The Iranians forever said Hesbela was independent, We don't have

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anything to do with them. They have now acknowledged that

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what we've all known. They're the primary underwriter supporter has

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Bela is Iran. It is the regime tames occupation of Lebanon.

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And so I read the agreement between the United States

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and Lebanon and Israel yesterday, But the party that really

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matters there has a non nation state actor, has refused

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to do the simple thing, which is to conduct a

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ceasefire and stop the fighting there. And so Israel's going

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to do the necessary. Their citizens still can't move back

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into the northern part of their country. You know, we

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wouldn't accept it if our citizens had to move out

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of their homes. Israel's going to do what's necessary. And

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you've seen Prime Minister Nate in Yahoo acknowledge that this

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will continue. And so if the Iranians continue to hold

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to this idea that somehow a ceasefire there is part

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of this, I see no way there'll be an arrangement

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between the United States and Iran that solves the crisis

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that's in the Strait today.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's review. Let's see, we had General Keen who

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says there's no way that an agreement is going to

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be reached. We had Michael Allen, who was being kind

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but saying that the president's overly optimistic about reaching an agreement.

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In other words, it's not going to happen. And you

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got Kareem Sadupors saying this exact thing. Now, POMPEII was going, no,

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we're not going to reach an agreement with these guys,

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which leaves what either we get into a stalemate or

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we use military and the president has to decide which

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one of those he wants to do. All right, the economy,

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We have a bunch of things about the economy today. Oh,

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before we get to that. So last night was vote

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rama in the US Senate. This talk about not knowing

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how to run a business. The Senate debated three bills

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over eight They were in session for eighteen hours. They

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went until four am this morning, and they had a

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bill that the Democrats wanted to stop the president's weaponization

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the slush fund, whatever you want to call it. And

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so they needed a couple of Republicans to join them,

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and a couple did. But when all was said and done,

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Democrats failed at stopping the weaponization bill. So the president

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will still have the weapons. Say I know that. Todd

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Blant said that it was over. We're done, We're not

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going to use it, but the President then the next

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day said, yes, it's still alive. I'm very interested in

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that weaponization bill. It ties in with his wanting to

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go into with Bill Polti into the national intelligence records.

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He is obsessed with. He's going to get to the

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bottom of the twenty twenty election one way or the other,

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and anybody that did anything to support the Democrats in

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their efforts in those years, He's going to use the

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weaponization bill against them and to give money to all

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of those that stormed the Capitol on jan six. So

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that failed. If the Democrats failed to get that stopped,

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then they went on the seventy billion dollar immigration bill.

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This is the one that funds ICE and the border

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patrol through the end of President Trump's term. Seventy billion

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dollar immigration bill and it passed. Actually, Hakeem Jeffries was

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all excited about the fact that they were going to

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stop the weaponization bill and they failed, and on the

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immigration bill he wanted to not fund the seventy billion dollars.

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Speaker 4: Here's Hakeeen, how's democratsic going to strongly oppose this effort

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to spend seventy billion dollars in taxpayer funds on continuing

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to provide support for an ICE agency that the American

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people know is out of control. At the end of

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the day, right taxpayer dollars should be used to make

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life more affordable for the American people, particularly in an

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environment where the cost of living is far too high.

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Speaker 1: So, in other words, as the leader of the Democrats

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in the House, he's saying, defund, defund ICE, defund the

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border patrol. He doesn't want he doesn't want to fund them.

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He wants to get rid of ICE completely. I don't

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know what you do about the illegals in our country,

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but remember the Democrats were four opening up the borders

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to let the Democrats in or let the illegals in,

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and now that they're here, he doesn't want ICE rounding

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them up and throwing them out. So that was part

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of the vote rama. The one thing that did pass

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that the Democrats wanted was aid for Ukraine, and the

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vote was two twenty six to one five. It included

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support from eighteen Republicans that cross the aisle over to

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vote with the Democrats on eight billion in loans to

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Ukraine and NATO and UH more than a billion other

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funds for Ukraine, Baltic security, and radio free Europe. So

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some billions of dollars going to aid Ukraine. Democrats sponsored it,

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eighteen Republicans went for it. So the Republicans won stopping

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the weapon for continuing the weaponization bill, and for funding ICE.

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But the ICE bill needs to go to the Senate

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and it's going to have an uphill battle there too.

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But the Democrats won on Ukraine aid. All right, so

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we got the vote rama thing done, Wall Street. Let's

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see what happened. Oh, before we get to that, the economy.

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So this morning, first Friday of the month, we got

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our jobs report and it was expected to be up

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eighty five thousand jobs, not much, but it came in

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payrolls in May up one hundred and seventy two thousand,

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more than double what had been estimated. The unemployment rate

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remained unchanged at four point three percent. Has it weighs

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in on this very political, more political than I've ever heard, Kevin,

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But listen.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's absolutely a blowout number. And the thing that's

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most astonishing about it is is we look at the

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forecast of everybody that surveyed at Bloomberg, and not a

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single person got this number right, that happens quite a bit.

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But the error from the top person to this number

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was about fifty thousand jobs.

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Speaker 1: So Kevin is kind of busting his buttons, all proud

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about that, and I'm thinking, wait a minute, not one

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economist got that right, and that the expected number of

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jobs eighty five thousand, he says, a blowout number, one

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hundred and seventy two thousand. No, it's been for number

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of years, two hundred thousand ish, but they were expecting

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it to be much slower eighty five thousand. It was

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one seventy two. But why was not one economist right?

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Not one? Doesn't that make Kevin pause? And I wonder

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about the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Are their numbers legit?

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Are they going to do a big adjustment down the road. Meantime,

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the bond market did not like this at all. Bond

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markets took a dive, interest rates went higher. They're worried

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about inflation. If that's true that wages and employment are up,

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then stand by for more inflation. And speaking of wages,

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in this report, they pointed out that wages went up

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three point four percent last month, but inflation is going

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up four point three So once again wages not keeping

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up with inflation. But I like Kevin hasseid a lot,

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but this he was all proud of the fact that

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not one of them got it right. And I thinking, well,

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maybe the one that got it wrong was the Bureau

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of Labor Statistics. All right, So Wall Street, well they

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didn't like it. But again, let's review today's Friday. So

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Wednesday we had a huge drop, biggest dropping a long

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time on Wall Street. Yesterday we had a big rebound

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up almost nine hundred points, and then today back down again.

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So it's up, down, updown, down almost seven hundred, down

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six hundred and ninety five on the Dow to fifty

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thousand and eight sixty six SMP Dow oh better than

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two and a half percent drop down two hundred points.

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Nasdaq down one thousand, one hundred and twenty one points.

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That was a four percent drop. Huge. The price of

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gold one hundred and fifty dollars dropped down to four

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thousand and three point fifty four. And oil, well, we'll

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take it. It was down two dollars and eighty four

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cents down the ninety dollars and some change for a

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barrel of oil. So I know Kevin was all excited,

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but Wall Street wasn't excited about that job report. That's

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it for today, Thank you for coming by, have a

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wonderful weekend. We'll be back on Monday and I hope

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to see you then.

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Speaker 11: MHM.

