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Speaker 2: Do you want to report a UFO hanging in We

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don't want.

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Speaker 3: To report every thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Do you wish to report a UFO over hey, we

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want to one.

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Speaker 4: Of those.

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Speaker 2: Areas thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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Speaker 3: Time areas thirty one me neither there.

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Speaker 1: See if it was anybody above us to pass us,

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Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one of golf negative. Okay,

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OFFI the UFO.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, I'll passed over.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, but it's from at

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least to three.

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Speaker 1: Thousand feet above us.

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Speaker 3: See, I passed right.

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Speaker 4: Over the top of us. Ninety one one.

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Speaker 3: You just called both to be be four rest they're

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after staying the airplanes?

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Speaker 4: Hey, ie to God. More calm on an unidentified object

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every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I hope you've

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all had a good week. I'm Nick Hunter and you

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are listening to the UFO Chronicles podcast. This episode, we

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meet Bridget from Ohio, and Bridget is a lifelong high

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level experiencer and many of these strange encounters she will

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be sharing with us Tonight, she's going to be taking

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us on a journey, a journey into the unknown. Bridget

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is up next. But first, if you enjoyed a show

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much appreciated. Now on with the show. Hello Bridget, Welcome

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to the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Hi, thanks for having me invited to be here.

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Speaker 1: It is wonderful to have you join us today. And

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you're calling from the state of Ohio. Yes, now, Bridge,

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you have a lifetime of experiences to share with us.

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Would you like to start at the beginning please, ma'am sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, yeah, my name is Bridget Anderson. I am

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almost fifty years old, and I am a lifelong high

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level experiencer. I don't even really consider it anomalists at

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this point. It's just what my life has been. I

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have had experiences my entire life with conscious recall of

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those experiences, going back to even when I was two

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and three years old, with the small robotic grades in

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my room, and I can remember I was so afraid

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of my closet and I never wanted to go near

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the closet after dark, and these beings would come out

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of my closet, and a couple of times they came

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out from under my bed, and I could never remember

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what their face looked like, but I always remembered that

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fear and that feeling of dread that it caused in me.

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maybe just a kid's imagination, a boogey monster, But something

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inside me there was always this nagging feeling that, no,

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this has been going on your whole life, ever since

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you got here, and you remember the monsters in the

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room when you were younger. And so after we moved

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out of that house, we'd only lived there the first

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few years of my life. After we had moved out

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of that house. I didn't see the small grades in

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my room anymore. At that point, I would say my

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would have these strange flashbacks or little memory bits, but

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memories to something that I had no conscious recall of,

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and I would not understand what they were. Was this

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a dream? Was this something I saw on TV? And

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it was just a flash, almost like if somebody just

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never latch onto it and figure out what it was.

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woman who was laying on white silk. And I can

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picture it now just as if I did when I

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was a child. She had short, crop blonde hair, she

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was wearing a navy blue dress with white polka dots,

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and she had a pearl necklace on, and she was

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sleeping on this bed of white silk. But something didn't

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look right, something didn't feel right, And I was looking

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down at this woman, and I had this flashback, this

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vision so often that finally, when I was about twelve

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years old, I confronted my mom and I said, I've

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had this vision, this memory in my head since I

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was a young child, as long as I can remember,

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and my mom asked me to tell her about it.

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what I was seeing. And I looked up and could

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see the look on her face. She was horrified, and

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I knew there was something there. And she said, that

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was your great aunt's funeral. We took you there when

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you were two or three years old, but I never

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took you up to the casket. You stayed with me

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at the back of the room, and I always made

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sure that you were facing the other way. There's no

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way that you saw that woman in her casket, let

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alone to that kind of detail. And she said, how

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could you know that? And I couldn't explain it either.

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what to make of it. Obviously, it freaked my mom

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that go for the time being. Then, when I was

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about twelve thirteen years old, I had picked out my

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dream bed. This was a king sized waterbed with peach

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satin and lace sheets. It was my dream bed. I

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picked it out. Shortly after getting this bed, I for

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some reason chose every single night to sleep on the

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floor over the register vent with a blanket over my

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head and over the register vent. I knew by that

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time that something was happening to me at night, that

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someone was taking me, and in my twelve to fourteen

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year old mind, I thought that if I laid over

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the register event, the next time they came for me,

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I could scream and my mom would hear me through

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the register vents and she would come save me and

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keep them from taking me. Of course, no one ever

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came to save me, and those episodes continued. Eventually, when

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my bed. And so after getting that bed, it was

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years before I ever slept in it, and no one

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understood why I chose to sleep on the floor over

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a register event with a blanket over top of me,

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like that was the only thing I could do to

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try and protect myself, and it didn't work. So I

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knew from a very early age that things were happening

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to me, and I could feel it as well. I

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was always tired and I slept all the time, and

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the back of my head was always fuzzy. I complained

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about it so much that my mom actually took me

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in for a cat scan. She thought there must be

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something wrong. They did the cat scan and nothing was found,

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but I always had just this weird, fuzzy feeling on

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the back of my head. And I wake up after

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a full night's sleep, and I had felt fine the

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night before when I went to sleep, but I would

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wake up feeling like I had been worked over physically

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and mentally. And I knew that this wasn't a dream.

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I'd had dreams before, but this was tangible. You could

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feel it. My muscles felt exhausted. I had this feeling

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of anxiety and trauma that was left over, and it

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was much more real than a dream. But I never

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had any logical reason or explanation for why I always

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felt that way and why I was always so tired

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no matter how much sleep that I got. But I

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knew that things were happening to me. So flash forward

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then to nineteen years of age. I was at my

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first year of university at Syracuse University in Syracuse, New York,

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and I became pregnant. So after the first semester, I

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came back home during Christmas break, and I was about

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two months pregnant at that point, and the clinic had

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told me that I would have the first three months

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to decide what I wanted to do, whether I wanted

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to have an abortion or have this child or give

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it up for adoption. So I hadn't told anyone that

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I was pregnant, and I came home on Christmas break

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those options. I just didn't know what to do. So

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on Christmas Eve, I was once again about ready to

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go to sleep, and I was laying in my bed,

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crying and sobbing into my pillow, and I found myself

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praying for the first time in my life. I was

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never a religious person. I was not brought up in

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a religious household. I had never been to church. I

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once asked my mom why she had never taken us

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to church, and she said that religion was a very

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personal thing that she did not want forced on us,

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and that when we were old enough, we could seek

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out religion for ourselves if we wanted. So. For the

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first time in my life, at nineteen years old, I'm

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laying there two months pregnant, two and a half months pregnant,

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not knowing what to do, and I'm praying to God

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to please take this back and give me a second chance.

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The last thing I remember is sobbing in my pillow

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and praying, asking for a second chance. And then there

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was this bright light, I mean brighter than any light

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that I've ever seen, and it was coming through my window.

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and there was a huge tree right in front of

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that window, and typically when the sun would shine in,

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you would see the shadows from the branches of the

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trees and the leaves moving. And here it is the

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middle of the night, and this light that's you know,

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one hundred times brighter than any sunlight had ever been

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is shining through this second story window. And the first

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thing I thought was where is the shadow from the

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branches on the tree. There was no shadow, it was

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just bright light. So then the next thing that I

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remember is I sit up in my bed and I

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take this huge, deep breath, like I had been holding

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my breath or something, and all of a sudden, I

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am hit with this pain that I had never felt before,

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a pain in my abdomence. And I'm thinking that something's wrong,

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and I'm going to have to come clean with my

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mom right now about being pregnant, because clearly I'm going

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to have to go to the hospital. Something's wrong. So I,

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and this is Christmas Eve. I get out of my

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bed and I'm trying to make it to my door

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to go downstairs and wake my parents up. And as

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I walk around my bed, the pain just intensifies and

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literally knocked me onto the floor, and I felt this

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wetness gush all down my pajama pants, and I thought

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it first that I had peed my pants, and then

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I turned the light on and see that it's flood

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and there's blood all over me. And it's dripping onto

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the carpet, and I'm in so much pain I can't

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even move. I'm just doubled over on the floor. I

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grabbed some laundry and crawled onto the laundry so I

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would quit bleeding all over my pastel carpet. And I

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just laid there for hours, just immobile with pain. And

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this bleeding was heavy, and it continued for hours, and

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I could hear my parents downstairs laughing and wrapping Christmas presents.

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I was able to clean myself up and hide all

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the bloody clothes and put something over the stain in

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the carpet that I had made, and I crawled back

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into bed. And the next thing that I remember is

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my parents waking me up to open Christmas presents for

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Christmas morning. And I knew when they woke me up

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that I was no longer pregnant. I know now that

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those pains that I felt were contractions, but at nineteen

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years old and never having been pregnant, I didn't know

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what was happening to me. But when I was woken

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up that morning Christmas morning, I knew that I was

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no longer pregnant, and I felt that God had answered

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my prayer that he had given me that second chance.

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So after that incident, I ended up going back to

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my private university the next year at Syracuse University, And

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this was nineteen ninety four that I went back, and

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I was studying Japanese foreign policy, and so I was

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taking intensive Japanese language courses. And it was finals week.

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I had my big Japanese final the next morning at

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eight am. I was going to set the alarm for

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seven o three am. I have this thing with threes.

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It's always three with me, never seven o'clock. It would

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have to be seven oh three that I would set

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my alarm. So I was going to set my alarm

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for seven oh three so that I could make it

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to my Japanese final at eight am. But I was

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so I was struggling in the course. My grade was low.

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If I didn't get a good enough grade on this exam,

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I was not going to pass the course and be

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progressed to the next level of the language studies, I

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would have to repeat that course again. So I was

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freaking out. I didn't think that I was going to

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do well on this exam. I studied as much as

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I could day and night, but I just couldn't pound

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it all into my head, and I just knew that

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I was not going to do well on this exam.

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So the night before the exam, I had realized that

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I'm going to have to pull it all night, or

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I'm going to have to stay up all night and

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take every minute until this test to cram as much

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of this in my head as I can. So i'd

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never set the alarm because i never went to sleep.

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So I'm drinking coffee, I'm taking caffeine pills. I'm sitting

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at my desk, and I've got my headphones on because

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my roommate was being loud and had some friends over,

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so I had some music on with my headphones and

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I was listening to music while I was studying for

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my exam. So one moment, I'm sitting there studying for

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my exam and I decide I'm gonna take a break

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and have a cigarette. So I go over and sit

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on my bed, and before I can even grab a

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cigarette or do anything, the next thing i know, I'm

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floating up in the corner of my room and I'm

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looking at my body sitting on the bed, and I

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don't know what's happening. I don't know what this is.

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And I will my body to look up at me

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in the corner of the room, and I my body

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looked up and I looked into my own eyes, and

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it was like this glass was shattering inside my mind.

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I don't even know how to put that into words,

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what that did to me, to look into my own eyes.

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And I didn't understand how am I able to control

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my body? If I'm not in my body? Am I dead?

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Am I dying? How can I wrap my head around this?

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How can I prove that this actually happened to myself?

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So I had a plan that I was going to

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smoke a cigarette. That's what I had wanted to do.

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That's why I went to the bed. So I'm going

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to smoke this cigarette. And I actually had only had

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one cigarette left, so it was my last cigarette, and

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I was going to go ahead and smoke that. And

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I figured, if I wake up in the morning and

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I still have that cigarette, then I'll know that this

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was just some crazy dream or something. And if I

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wake up and the cigarette is smoked, then I'll know

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that this actually happened. But then I started second guessing myself,

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and I'm like, no, that's not going to work, because

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I could have woken up half asleep in the middle

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of the night and decided to smoke that cigarette and

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not even remember it. What can I do to know

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sure that this is really happening. So then I had

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a plan. I was going to smoke the cigarette halfway

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and I was going to put the half cigarette out.

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And I thought, if I wake up in the morning

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and I have an unsmoked cigarette, or even a smoked

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cigarette in the ash tray, then I'll know that this

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was all just crazy, something my mind created or a dream.

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But if I wake up and there's a half smoked cigarette,

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I'll know that this really happened. So I lit the cigarette.

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I watched myself light the cigarette, and it was very strange,

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being able to control my body like I was in it,

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but I wasn't in it. And I watched myself light

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this cigarette. I watched myself sit and smoke it to halfway,

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and then I put it out in the ash tray.

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I have no memory after that of going to sleep

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or laying down or anything. The last memory I have

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is putting that cigarette out at halfway. So the next

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memory I have is waking up. No alarm was set,

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alarm went off, but sure enough, I woke up at

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seven oh three am, and I had no memory of anything.

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I woke up completely naked, which was strange because I

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had had my pajamas on the night before. But I

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woke up completely naked, feeling absolutely refreshed, and nothing was

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in my mind. I jumped up, I took a shower,

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I got dressed, and I left for my exam. I

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don't know how, but I knew all the answers at

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the exam, and I knew that I didn't know all

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the answers the day before. I don't know how I

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knew the answers, but they were there. And I knew

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without a doubt that I had scored an A on

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the test. I just knew it. So I left the

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exam feeling on top of the world, like I cannot

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believe I just aced that exam as much as I've

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been stressing about it and as much as I've been

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struggling about it. And so I then remembered, oh, I

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need to get figurette. So I stopped and got a

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pack of cigarettes, and then I went back home for lunch,

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and I upstairs to my bedroom and I was going

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to sit down on the bed and have a cigarette.

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And when I walked in, my roommate said, oh, how

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did test go? And I said great, you know, and

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I walked up to my bedroom and when I got

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to my bed, I saw my nightgown bunched up in

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a pile on the ground right next to my bed.

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So I went to grab my nightgown to throw it

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into the dirty clothes, and just as I grabbed the nightgown,

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my roommate came to my bedroom door to talk with me.

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And as I grabbed the nightgown, I had this electric

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It was like being electrocuted, I had, but not that intense.

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I had this electric feeling run through my body. And

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at that moment, I remembered everything that had happened the

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night before, the out of body experience, and I just

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immediately thought of the cigarette in that plan, and I

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turned and looked at my ashtray, and there laying in

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the ashtray was the half smoked cigarette in exactly the

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positions that I watched myself put it in. And at

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that point the rug was completely pulled out from under me.

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Everything started spinning, I couldn't breathe. I felt like I

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was going to pass out. I slid down onto my bed,

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and later my roommate would say that when I grabbed

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the night down, she watched me go into some sort

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of a trance. She said, my eyes just went blank

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and my face went completely white, and she thought I

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was going to pass out or die. And the next

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thing I know, my roommate is standing there in my

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doorway crying, and she's telling me that I'm scaring her

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and that I need to go and talk to someone.

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I didn't go and talk to anyone, but I did

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start looking into out of body experiences at that point

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because I didn't know anything about that. So that was

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an out of body experience that I had in nineteen

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ninety four. Didn't really know what to make of it.

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Sit up as yet another one of these weird events

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that's been happening to me my whole life, and I

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don't understand why these things are happening, but they continue

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to happen. So in nineteen ninety five, I had participated

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in Semester at Sea. It was a program that was

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hosted by a different university every year. They chose five

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hundred college students from universities around the world, and they

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put us on a ship and cruised us around the globe,

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and we stopped at ten different countries, and we would

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spend a few days to a week in each one

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of those countries. There were many different experiences of high

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strangeness that happened while I was on that ship, but

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the one in particular, the night before I boarded the ship,

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I had flown to Seattle. I live in Ohio. I

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had flown to Seattle and met a fellow college student

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from Syracuse. It was only the two of us that

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actually there were three of us from Syracuse University that

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were selected for this program. So me and the other student,

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one of the other students from Syracuse, both flew into Seattle, Washington,

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where we met and we rented a van. And the

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ship was leaving from Vancouver, British Columbia, So we drove

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our rental van up to Vancouver, and we had got

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there a couple days before the ship left and checked

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into a hotel and we were just so excited, I mean,

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on top of the world. We're about to go on

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this once in a lifetime trip around the world. We

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were going out at night to the bars and having

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drinks and telling everybody about this trip we were about

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to embark on. So the night before we were supposed

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to board the ship, we had been out at the

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dance clubs and we had been drinking. We then went

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to a pub. It was towards the end of the

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night and we were on our way home and we

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passed this pub that looked pretty crowded and like it

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was a happening place. So we decided to stop in

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there for a few final before we went back to

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the hotel. And so as soon as we walked into

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the pub, I had a strange feeling. I didn't know

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what it was. I couldn't put my finger on it.

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I just had a strange feeling. And we go into

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the pub and up to the bar, and we ordered

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some drinks. And as I'm scanning the room trying to

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figure out why am I having this strange feeling in here,

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I immediately land on these two men who were over

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in the corner of this pub, and they're staring at me,

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and I knew instantly as soon as I laid eyes

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on them that this was what was causing this strange

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feeling in me. And these two men, they were all

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really pale, like beyond albino. It was almost like they

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had no coloring to them. They were dressed in all black,

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no insignia or markings or anything. And these two men

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were just sitting in the corner of this pub, staring

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at me in a strange way. And I could tell

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that this wasn't just a random these guys checking me

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out or they thought I was cute, like there was

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intent behind this. They were there for me. I knew

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that I had a strange feeling like who is this

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and what do they want? And how would they even

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know that I was here? And so I got this

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bad feeling like I don't want anything to do with

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these people, and so I turned away and started talking

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with my friends and the bartender, the people we had

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been talking with at the bar, And then a table

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opened up at the bar, so we decided to move

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from the bar to this table. And when we got

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to the table, the bartender came over with a round

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of shots that we hadn't ordered, and he said, these

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drinks were bought for you by a couple of gentlemen,

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and I knew as soon as he said it that

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it was those two men that had purchased the drinks,

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and I turned to where they had been sitting, and

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they weren't there anymore. And so the bartender set the

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drinks down on the table, and as the bartender walked

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the way, there were those two men standing right before

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our table, right there. I don't know where they came from.

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I didn't see them walk over. I didn't see them

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in the bar when I had looked just moments before,

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as the bartender was bringing us these shots that I

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knew they had bought for us. But such of these

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two men standing right at our table, and they asked

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if they could join us, and they didn't wait for

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a response, They just kind of said, can we join you?

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And they sat down at our table. And so we

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started telling them about the ship that we were about

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to embark on the next morning and this trip that

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we were going on. And they had like an Eastern

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European accent, but I couldn't really put my finger on

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at what the accent was. But they had some sort

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of an accent that I couldn't identify, and it founded European.

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But their English was pretty good, and they had like

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a military air about them. I felt almost like they

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were in the military of some sort, but again they

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were wearing all there was no insignia. So the last

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thing that I remember is having shots with them, doing

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a toast and drinking this shot with them, and then

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the next memory that I have is myself and the

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person from my university that I was traveling with. We

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wake up and we're laying on our bed in the

483
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:26,079
hotel room, but it looks like somebody carried us into

484
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,960
the room and just tossed us onto the bed. We're

485
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:31,880
fully closed, our shoes are still on, my purse is

486
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,119
stole around my shoulder, and the way we were laying

487
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,359
it's like our bodies had kind of shifted when we

488
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,200
were thrown and was sort of like overlapping each other,

489
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,519
and one of my arms was bent in a really

490
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,119
awkward way. It literally looked like somebody had carried us

491
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000
both in and just tossed us onto the bed. So

492
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,799
we woke up feeling very out of it and obviously

493
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,720
hung over from the drinking, but there was something else.

494
00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,160
There was just this clouded, thick feeling like some thing

495
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,640
wasn't right, And we looked at the clock and realized

496
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:06,960
that we were late. The boarding was about to start

497
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:09,480
for this ship, and that we needed to get out

498
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:12,039
of that hotel and get to the dock immediately or

499
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:14,960
we were going to miss this ship. So of course

500
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,359
we're freaking out. I mean, we had been planning for

501
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,799
this expedition for over a year and here we are

502
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,599
about to miss the ship. So we're running around the

503
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,599
hotel room, throwing all of our stuff into our bags,

504
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:29,920
trying to get out of there. We go down to

505
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,359
check out at the desk and the man working the

506
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,839
desk tells us that our rental van had been towed,

507
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000
and I was very confused, and I'm asking him, what

508
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:43,960
do you mean it's been Toad? Who had it towed

509
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,839
and why? And he said he didn't know. And at

510
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,039
the time, there was this quick little thought that went

511
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:53,880
through my head, and the thought was, how do you

512
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:56,680
even know it was Toad if you don't know who

513
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,279
toed it or why it was towed. But we were

514
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,200
so upset and concerned and needed to get to this

515
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:05,519
ship that I just had to kind of put it

516
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:07,680
out of my head, and we said, well, where was

517
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,759
it Toad to and he said, I don't know. You know,

518
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:13,920
you're going to have to call the toe lots and

519
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:17,640
see who who has this van of yours. So we're

520
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,799
freaking out at this point because the rest of our

521
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,680
luggage was still in this van, and so we're calling

522
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:26,720
all these different toelts trying to figure out where this

523
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,720
van ended up. And we finally did find the one

524
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:33,240
that said, yeah, they had our rental van there. So

525
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200
we got a cab and had them take us to

526
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,599
this towyard, which was this really run down junkie on

527
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,839
the outskirts of town towyard, and we're thinking something is

528
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:49,000
really wrong here, like why would our car have even

529
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:52,759
been towed? And I had this like flash, this little

530
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:57,039
flashback or memory, and in the flash, I'm sitting in

531
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,720
the driver's seat of this rental van and it's parked

532
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,160
up on the sidewalk right in front of the hotel.

533
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,279
Like I had driven up onto the sidewalk and almost

534
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,799
ran into the building and stopped right in front of

535
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,359
the building. And my hands were on the ten and

536
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,240
two position of the wheel. That's what gave it away,

537
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,720
because I would never I have never put my hands

538
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:21,519
on the ten and two position of the steering wheel.

539
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,640
That's not how I drive. And I could feel in

540
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,960
this flashback that this wasn't on an organic memory. I

541
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,079
knew that this memory had been planted there, and in

542
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,240
the memory, I said, oh fuck it, we'll just part

543
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:38,160
here and we'll sort it all out tomorrow. And it

544
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:40,799
was just a quick flash and then that memory was gone,

545
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,839
and here we are. We're standing at this junky tow

546
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,839
yard on the outskirts of town, and I in my head,

547
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,519
I'm thinking something happened. What happened? And then those two

548
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,920
men popped back into my head. But at this point

549
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,880
we don't have time for any of that. This ship

550
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,720
is about ready to leave. The boarding's already been going on.

551
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:02,039
So we go in to talk to these people to

552
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:04,599
try to convince them to give us our rental car back,

553
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,079
and they're telling us that they can't, that there's paperwork

554
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,839
and process and that it's going to be a couple

555
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,240
of days. And we're telling them absolutely not. This ship

556
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,680
leads in like an hour and we have to be

557
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:19,759
on it. So we end up bribing them. We ended

558
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:21,799
up paying them a bunch of money to let us

559
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,519
get our luggage out of the van, and we told them, look,

560
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:27,200
you can keep the van. We'll call the rental agency

561
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,440
and explain what happened and tell them they're going to

562
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,519
have to send somebody to come get this van, but

563
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,319
we need our luggage so this cab can take us

564
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,279
to the docks and we don't miss this ship. So

565
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,000
after giving them most of the cash that we had

566
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:41,240
on us, they finally agreed to let us get our

567
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:43,279
luggage out of the van. So we get all of

568
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:46,319
our luggage. We're piling it up inside this cab, the

569
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:48,839
trunks filled. I mean, I don't know how we got

570
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,000
it all in there, and the cab driver was not

571
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,519
real happy with us, so he takes us to the

572
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:57,440
dock and drops us off. And there was this progression

573
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,079
that you had to go through this boarding line, and

574
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,440
there was like twelve different stations to this boarding line

575
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:06,279
on the docks before you enter the ship, and one

576
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:08,720
of them was checking in, and the next one was

577
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,759
showing your passport and your vaccinations and all of that,

578
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,720
and then the next one is getting your ship identification made.

579
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:18,799
So there's all these little stations that you have to

580
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,319
go through before they actually let you onto the ship.

581
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,480
So the person and I that we were traveling together,

582
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,680
we start going through these stations and as we're waiting

583
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:30,279
in line for one of the stations, he says to

584
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,799
me randomly, I think we were drugs last night, And

585
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,759
that sat really weirdly with me. And I turned to

586
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,960
him and I said, what are you talking about? Why

587
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:43,240
would we have been drugged? People drug you, to rape you,

588
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,240
to rob you, to murder you. None of those things

589
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:49,200
happened to us. We weren't robbed, we weren't raped, and

590
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,480
we're still here, So why would somebody drug us? And

591
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,039
he just shook his head and he said, I don't

592
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:58,039
feel right. I'm sick. And I too felt very sick,

593
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,480
and I'd been hung over many times. This was not

594
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,640
a hangover sick. This was thick, thick, like your head's

595
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,640
all foggy and you're just you're having trouble keeping it together.

596
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,519
And so again we just kind of put it out

597
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,559
of our heads. I said, well, you know, I don't

598
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:15,920
know why anybody would drug us, or you know what

599
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:18,000
the purpose would have been, but we're here now, we

600
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,039
made it through all this craziness, and thank goodness, this

601
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000
didn't cost us this trip all because of our night

602
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:27,160
out drinking last night. Let's just get through this boarding

603
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,119
process and get on this ship. So we make it

604
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,480
through the rest of the little doc area boarding process

605
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,200
and we get onto the ship and we kind of

606
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,359
just let out a sire relief, like, Wow, that was close.

607
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,519
You know, we almost blew the whole experience, but we

608
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,160
made it, and so we were assigned to different cabins.

609
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880
We kind of parted ways once we got onto the ship,

610
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,400
and we never talked about that experience again.

611
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,119
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Speaker 4: So while I was on the ship, there were many

619
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:42,519
strange events that happened, and so many that I won't

620
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:46,000
even go into all of them, but probably one of

621
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:50,360
the more significant ones was while we were cruising from

622
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,760
one country to another in the middle of the ocean.

623
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,559
Oftentimes at night I would go up to one of

624
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:59,400
the top decks when everybody was asleep, and I would

625
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,760
just lay up there on the ground looking up at

626
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,840
the stars. It was so amazing, as dark as it

627
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:07,960
was out in the ocean, and the stars were just

628
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:11,079
so bright and so vibrant. So a lot of times

629
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,159
I would go up there at night just to lay

630
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,519
around look at the stars, collect my thoughts, reflect on

631
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:19,559
what I had done in the country we were just at.

632
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:23,159
So usually I would go to the top deck so

633
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,679
that I could look at the stars. But this particular night,

634
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:30,719
for whatever reason, I went to the lowest deck and

635
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,320
I just walked over to the edge of the ship

636
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,400
and was just leaning on the railing, kind of looking

637
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:39,639
out into the ocean, looking at the moon and the stars,

638
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,920
And all of a sudden, I see these lights, and

639
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,280
for a second I forget that I'm on the lowest deck.

640
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,239
And when I see these lights, I'm thinking, Okay, somebody

641
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,880
must be shining a light out of their portal or

642
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,079
playing some silly prank. But then I realized the portals

643
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:02,400
are above me. I'm on the lowest decks. So I

644
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,840
look down into the water and I see these yellow, red,

645
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:11,199
and green lights under the water, and they're getting bigger

646
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,639
and bigger and as the lights got closer, I could

647
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,639
see that there was a ship under the water, and

648
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,679
immediately I'm thinking, Okay, this must be some sort of

649
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,800
high tech sub or something, and they're just checking out

650
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,039
our ship. And as this craft got right below the

651
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:33,800
water's edge, I had a telepathic communication in my mind.

652
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960
There was a man's voice, and it said to me,

653
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,239
you can run to the ends of the earth, you

654
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,559
can strand yourself in the middle of the sea. We'll

655
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,960
always be able to find you. And at that point,

656
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:51,440
I was overwhelmed with this feeling of fear and dread,

657
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,920
and I just turned and ran back to my cabin.

658
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,000
And I'm actually shaking right now even recounting this experience.

659
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,280
So I turned and I ran back to my cabin

660
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,800
and I crawled up into my top bunk and I

661
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,320
just laid there and cried and just thought, what is

662
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,119
wrong with me? Why is all of this stuff happening

663
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:16,360
to me? Is there something wrong with my head? Do

664
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:19,679
I need help? Or is there something to this? This

665
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,840
has been going on my whole life, all these strange events,

666
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,920
and nobody else seems to experience these things. Why me?

667
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,840
Why is all this stuff happening to me? So I

668
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,559
went to sleep. I mean, what could I do? You know,

669
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:34,800
I went to sleep and got up the next day

670
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,320
and just tried to put it out of my head.

671
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Really finished that ship. It was an amazing experience. It

672
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:44,960
was hands down the best time of my life. That

673
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,840
those three months of my life were the cream of

674
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,719
the crop. It doesn't get any better than that, just

675
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,119
being whisked off like a tourist, just to one amazing

676
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,360
experience after another. And some of the high strangeness events

677
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,239
were good events. They were really amazing events that didn't

678
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,920
scare me. They weren't traumatic. But after seeing that ship

679
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,960
in the water, it's like things took a turn at

680
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:14,159
that point. That was the first time that I'd really

681
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,360
felt that overwhelming sense of fear and dread, and I

682
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,639
knew something inside me. Knew this experience is different than

683
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:26,320
the others that I've had. And it doesn't even feel

684
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,400
like this experience is coming from the same source that

685
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,079
all the others were coming from. I kind of can

686
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:36,320
just sense that there's something dark. I don't want to

687
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,559
use the word evil, but that's the word that comes

688
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:42,199
to mind. There's something dark or evil about this and

689
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,320
this fear and this dread feeling that it's caused in me.

690
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:50,360
I was never given that feeling from these other experiences

691
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,079
that I've had prior to that. So the ship ended

692
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,800
in Christmas. Eves dropped us off on the dock in

693
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,679
New Orleans, and I ended up staying in New Orleans

694
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,920
for a few days and having an amazing time. Eventually,

695
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:08,400
I did make it back home, and I had decided

696
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:12,079
to take the next semester off of college. So much

697
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:16,119
had happened to me on that ship. Not only did

698
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,559
I have so much to process just from all of

699
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:20,880
the countries that we had visited and all of the

700
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,079
experiences of the tourism and the different things that we

701
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:27,920
had done, but then on top of that, all of

702
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:31,119
these experiences of high strangeness that it happened to me.

703
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,960
And so I just came to the conclusion that there's

704
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,320
no way I can just start a new semester college

705
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,719
in two weeks and just put all of this away

706
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:42,920
and keep going. I need some time to process all

707
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,159
of this. So I took the semester off, and I

708
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,760
spent most of that semester just hanging out in my

709
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,840
parents' basement, sleeping a lot. I had all of my

710
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,639
photos developed and I was reading back through my journals

711
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,760
that I had kept while I was on this ship,

712
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,840
and I never wrote anything about the high strangeness events

713
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:08,719
in my journals. I would kind of leave myself some clues,

714
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,760
some like coding type things that I would do in

715
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,960
the way that I wrote in certain words that I

716
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,400
would use, and a couple images that I drew, but

717
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:21,480
I never flat out wrote out those experiences in my journal.

718
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,599
Something told me, and I'd always known that I needed

719
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,599
to keep all of this in my head or people

720
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:28,639
were going to think I was crazy and then I

721
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,239
wouldn't be able to lead any kind of normal life.

722
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,920
So I spent that semester that I had taken off

723
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:38,800
just kind of trying to regroup and recharge myself and

724
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,320
wrap my head around everything that I had just experienced.

725
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,719
And I spent most of my time sleeping, or I

726
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,400
would play games on the computer down in the basement

727
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,400
of my parents' home. And so one night I was

728
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:56,440
sitting in the basement playing game on the computer, blazing

729
00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:59,159
the Oregon Trail, and I would sit and play that

730
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,800
game for hours and hours. And so back then the

731
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,840
computers had the physical mouth that you had to put

732
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,719
your hand on and move it around to move the cursor.

733
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:11,480
And so I had my hand on the mouth, and

734
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:14,679
I was playing this video game when our house was

735
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,880
struck by lightning, and my hand was on the mouth.

736
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:23,760
When the lightning struck our house and my hand was

737
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,880
stuck to the mouth, I could not pull my hand

738
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,599
off of the mouth, and I felt like this electrocuting

739
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,679
hot pain start moving from my hand in the mouth

740
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:40,320
up my arm. And as that pain is moving up

741
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,840
my arm, I'm looking at the computer screen and the

742
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,519
computer screen went completely blank, completely black, and then the

743
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:55,239
computer screen went completely white. And then at that point,

744
00:41:55,679 --> 00:42:00,239
a little cartoon character of a mouth came out from

745
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,559
the side of the computer screen and crawled to the

746
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:07,400
middle of the screen and turned and stood up on

747
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:10,480
its two hind legs, and I kind of gave this

748
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:14,360
look of just shock and disbelief. I couldn't believe what

749
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:18,079
was happening. I didn't know what was happening. And I

750
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:22,960
guess upon seeing my reaction of shock, this little cartoon

751
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,960
mouth threw its head back and gave this laugh that

752
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:32,559
was such an evil like maniacal laugh. It was just

753
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,480
I don't even know how to explain it. And the

754
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,679
voice that I was hearing the laugh and the tone

755
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,719
of this voice did not match what I was looking

756
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,280
at the cartoon character of this little mouth. And I'm

757
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,000
feeling this hot pain shooting up my arm, and at

758
00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:50,559
this point it's getting up to the top of my arm,

759
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:53,559
about to go into my shoulder, and my hand is

760
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:58,159
still stuck to the mouth. And again a man's voice.

761
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,639
The mouse is speaking. The mouth of the mouth is

762
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,360
moving on the screen, but I'm hearing this man's voice

763
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,000
in my head. The man's voice said to me, and

764
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:10,480
I try to remember its exact words, but I can

765
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:13,800
never remember exactly what it said. It said something to

766
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,719
the effect of, it doesn't matter what you do, We'll

767
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,400
always be able to find you. Haven't you figured that

768
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:24,679
out by now? You're just wasting time. And at that point,

769
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,039
right before that hot pain, it was in my shoulder,

770
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:29,960
and I felt like it was about to go to

771
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,119
my heart, and that when it went to my heart

772
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,960
that I would die. And right as that pain was

773
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,400
up in my shoulder and I felt it was about

774
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,920
the head to my heart, I was just suddenly thrown

775
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:44,039
back from the computer. My hand was thrown off of

776
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:46,719
the mouth, and I was sitting our basement was a

777
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,960
concrete floor, and I was sitting in an office chair

778
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:52,960
with wheels on it, and I was thrown back with

779
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,920
such a force that this chair went flying across our basement,

780
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:01,760
all the way across our basement, and I slammed into

781
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,320
the back wall that my dad had a weight rack

782
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000
set up on, and some of the weights had fallen

783
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:09,159
off the rack, some of the smaller ones, and I

784
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:13,239
this chair just slammed into this weight rack and I

785
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:16,039
jumped up out of the chair and my heart was

786
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:19,320
beating like a million miles a minute. I thought it

787
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,880
was going to explode at any second. And I was

788
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,480
shaking like a leaf and I couldn't catch my breast.

789
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,440
And at that point, my parents came running down the

790
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:31,599
stairs and they're like, are you okay? Are you okay?

791
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,599
And they could see that I wasn't breathing, that something

792
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,840
had happened to me, and they were telling me just

793
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,559
calm down, just breathe, just breathe, and I finally did

794
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,159
take a breath, and my parents looked me over physically,

795
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:48,400
I guess, for signs of a burner or something, and

796
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:52,360
they said, just calm down, You're okay. Just take a

797
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,119
deep breath, and that lightning strike had blown every electronic

798
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,280
that had been plugged in and house. Every one of

799
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,199
them are microwave, oven, OURPV, everything that was plugged into

800
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,800
the wall. It just fried them and me. So that

801
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,039
was in nineteen ninety six, and yet another strange event

802
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,360
that I couldn't explain. And I never told my parents

803
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,079
about the mouth on the computer screen. I knew they

804
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:22,960
would think I was crazy and so and at this

805
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:26,840
point I was scared. I felt like, these are these

806
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,519
experiences are different, these are bad. I feel a darkness.

807
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,320
I feel a lack of something coming from the source

808
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,079
that's causing these last few episodes that I've had. But

809
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:40,360
I still didn't know how to wrap my mind around

810
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,360
what is all this, what's happening to me? And what

811
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:45,599
does it all mean? What do they want from me?

812
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,559
What am I supposed to do? Like, I just could

813
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:51,880
not figure out what the purpose of all this was,

814
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:58,280
let alone what it even meant. So flash forward. You know,

815
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,880
over the years I had said that, you know, I

816
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,440
would always feel like the back of my head felt

817
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:06,639
really fuzzy, and even after the cat scan, nothing was

818
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,440
found physically to account for that. But I continued to

819
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,519
wake up with that like hangover feeling all the time.

820
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:18,039
I mean several times a week, just this strange hangover

821
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:21,760
feeling where I would feel like my muscles are exhausted,

822
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,320
and I have this trauma and this anxiety and the

823
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,400
back of my head feels all fuzzy, and all I

824
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:31,159
want to do is sleep all the time. And I

825
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,440
never could figure out why that is. But I knew

826
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,480
that something was being done to me, but there was

827
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:39,880
nothing in my mind that I could point to. I

828
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,280
couldn't remember anything, but you know, you just know it

829
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,800
on a gut level that someone's getting me at night

830
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,400
and doing something to me, and it's leaving physical traces.

831
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:54,920
And so I started to kind of realize the symptoms

832
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
of what it felt like after these events would happen.

833
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:00,400
So I had a pretty good idea, yeah, that it

834
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:03,800
was happening on a regular basis, because of these physical

835
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,679
symptoms that I actually have. So probably in the year

836
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,119
two thousand, almost two thousand and one, I was out

837
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,119
of college by this point, and I was living back

838
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:20,000
in Ohio, and the electric company had sent out a

839
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:23,880
calendar and each month they had some scenic picture on

840
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,079
the calendar. They sent it out to everyone, and I

841
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:30,760
was flipping through that calendar one day in two thousand

842
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,840
and two of the pictures were of mountains, and I

843
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,320
got that strange little electric feel run through me again,

844
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:43,599
like there's something to this. And one of the pictures

845
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,639
was Mount Rainier in Washington and the other picture was

846
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,559
from Danali National Park in Alaska, and I just had

847
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:55,639
this overwhelming sense that I have to go there. There's

848
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,079
something there for me. And I didn't understand what it

849
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,599
would be there for me, or why I would need

850
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:06,440
to go there, or what mountain it even was. Was

851
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:09,360
it one of these two mountains? Was it just a mountain?

852
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:12,719
And what would be there for me? What would I

853
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,119
need to go there to get? I didn't know, but

854
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,880
I just had this strange pool this feeling like there's

855
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,880
something there for you, not an answer, but something physically

856
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:26,239
there for you that you have to go and get.

857
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:30,599
So I realized at this point all of these things

858
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:33,239
have been happening to me for a reason. Obviously I'm

859
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,400
supposed to do something with it, and maybe this is it.

860
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,159
Maybe this is the end. Maybe maybe I'm going to

861
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,559
go to this mountain. I'm gonna find whatever this is,

862
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,800
and that'll explain all of this or be the end

863
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,199
of all of this or something. But I can't keep

864
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,880
running from these dark things that have been happening to me.

865
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:54,800
I can't keep living with trauma and fear all the time.

866
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,719
So I'm done being afraid. That emotion is not serving

867
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,599
me here, it's just making me less prepared to deal

868
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:06,039
with these things. So whatever happens, better or worse. At

869
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:08,400
this point, I didn't even care if I died, because

870
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:11,400
quite frankly, it would be better than living under the

871
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,679
anxiety and stress and trauma that I was living under.

872
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:18,599
I needed this to stop. I couldn't do this anymore,

873
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,280
so I just said, that's it. I'm going to lean

874
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,800
into this head first. I'm going to go find this

875
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,840
mountain and I'm not going to stop until I do

876
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
find it, and I'm going to bring this to an

877
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:32,519
end one way or another. And something inside me just

878
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:34,880
told me, like this is the big one, that this

879
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,199
is what all of this was preparing you for, that

880
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,679
this is what you're supposed to do with all of this.

881
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,880
But I still didn't know which mountain it was, or

882
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,079
if it was even one of these two mountains in

883
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:48,199
these pictures that I that I had seen so I

884
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,920
realized I'm going to have to go to boat and

885
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:53,199
I live in Ohio. So I thought, well, I'll go

886
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,679
to Mount Rainier first in Washington State. That's obviously a

887
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,039
lot closer than Alaska, and I'll see what happened, and

888
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:02,599
i'll see if I have a feeling that this is

889
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:05,519
where I'm supposed to be, and if not, then I'll

890
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:07,880
know that it's Alaska that I need to go to.

891
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,960
So my first trip, I'm trying to make it out

892
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,719
to Mount Rainier and I'm driving down the highway and

893
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,440
it was nighttime, and it was late. There wasn't a

894
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,639
whole lot of traffic on the road, and I don't

895
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:27,400
remember exactly what state I was in. I want to

896
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,840
say it was maybe North Dakota. And so I'm cruising

897
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,880
down this highway pretty late at night, and all of

898
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,559
a sudden, I have this strange feeling. It's almost like

899
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:42,400
a feeling like I'm being watched or I'm not alone

900
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:47,360
all of a sudden, but I was alone. And then

901
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,039
up ahead there's an overpass in front of me coming

902
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:53,079
up and I can see a bright light on the

903
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:56,679
other side of the overpass, and at first I'm thinking, well,

904
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,400
it must be a vehicle coming the opposite direct and

905
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,800
I can see their lights coming towards this overpass. But

906
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,000
as I got closer to the overpass, I realized that

907
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,000
that this wasn't two headlights that I was seeing. This

908
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,239
was one really bright light coming from the underneath of

909
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,039
this overpass, and it was so bright that I couldn't

910
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,679
see anything beyond it. It took up the whole underpaths,

911
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,320
and so then I started thinking, well, maybe it's a

912
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,760
work crew. And you know, they usually set up in

913
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,599
the middle of the highway with the if they're going

914
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:31,880
to work at night, they have those bright lights. Maybe

915
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,920
that's what this is, is just the light coming through

916
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,840
the underpaths from a work crew. And so as I

917
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:45,840
get to this underpass, right as I'm literally entering the underpath,

918
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,239
I realized that this isn't a work crew. I don't

919
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,400
know what it is at that moment, but I know

920
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:54,079
that it's bad and it's too late to stop. My

921
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,760
vehicle's already going under the underpass. So the next thing

922
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,159
I know, I'm driving down the highway at sixty five

923
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,800
miles an hour. It's dark again, and my radio's on,

924
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:10,840
but it's like off station and so it's mostly just fuzz,

925
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,920
and it's turned up so loud. This spuzz was just

926
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,320
deafening the sound of it. And I had my dog

927
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,599
with me. It was just me and my dog, and

928
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,199
I turned to look at my dog, and I could

929
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,840
tell from the look on his face and in his

930
00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:29,199
eyes that he too was stunned. Like we just looked

931
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:32,039
at each other, like what was that. It was almost

932
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:36,719
like something happened, but we were missing that time. It

933
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,559
was like one moment, I'm realizing there's something wrong with

934
00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:45,679
this light, and I'm heading into the overpass, and then flash,

935
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,519
just like that, I'm driving down this highway sixty five

936
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:52,519
miles an hour, and the radio's off station and turned

937
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:55,679
all the way up, and I know that something's happened,

938
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,239
but I can't wrap my head around it. I don't

939
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,559
know what it is. And my head just feels all fuzzy,

940
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:04,360
and I'm confused, and I'm afraid to stop the car.

941
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,480
I'm afraid to keep going. I'm afraid I might pass

942
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:10,360
out because I'm starting to have trouble breathing. And I

943
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,519
look at my dog, and when I see that confused,

944
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,840
kind of shaken look on his face, I know that

945
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,239
I'm not making this up that he feels it too.

946
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,559
Something happened, so it was probably like and I did

947
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:29,840
not stop. I did slow down, and I just kept driving,

948
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,920
and I was shaking like a leaf, and I just thought,

949
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,719
the staateest thing is for us to just stay moving.

950
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,440
Stay in motion. A moving target is harder to get

951
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,800
a hold of. I just need to breathe and keep

952
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,480
myself from passing out and just keep driving. So we

953
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:47,119
drove for hours until it was daylight out, and then

954
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:50,599
we pulled over at a Walmart parking lot, and I

955
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,079
made sure to pull into a busy area of the

956
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:58,599
parking lot where there were security cameras, and then I

957
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,280
crawled into the back of the suv with my dog

958
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:04,239
and we laid down to get some sleep. So it

959
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,760
was probably the next day or two after that I

960
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,760
was getting close to Washington State. I may have actually

961
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,719
even crossed over into Washington State by that point, But

962
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,639
it was a day or two after that strange event

963
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,840
had happened that my car suddenly broke down in this

964
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:26,199
tiny little town, and there was only one repair shop

965
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,679
in this town. So I took the car to the

966
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,639
repair shop and checked into a hotel and the repair shop,

967
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,000
after looking it over for the day, informs me that

968
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:38,400
there's a part that they're going to have to order

969
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:41,719
for this car because they don't have the part, and

970
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:44,840
that it's going to take days for this part to

971
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,840
be mailed to them shipped to them, so and it's

972
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,000
very expensive, I mean extremely expensive. So at that point,

973
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:55,960
I'm going to have to use the rest of the

974
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:58,199
money that I have for this trip to fix this

975
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,719
car so that I can even get back home. And

976
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:03,400
I realized at that point, I'm not going to make

977
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,519
it to Mount Rainier. So we've checked into this hotel,

978
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,239
and I kind of thought at this point it was

979
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,039
almost a relief, because I was kind of afraid of

980
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,760
what it was I was going to find at Mount Rainier,

981
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,039
what was going to happen to me there. And so

982
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:19,400
at this point, when the car broke down, I had

983
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,800
to accept, Hey, that's it. We're not going to make

984
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,960
it out there this time, and now I can just

985
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:26,679
relax and recover for a few days here in this

986
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,039
hotel while I'm waiting for them to fix my car.

987
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:32,599
So it turns out they had even more trouble getting

988
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:35,400
this part, and after three or four days they still

989
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,599
hadn't got the part. They still couldn't tell me when

990
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,480
the part was going to arrive, and on like the

991
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:43,440
It was probably the third or fourth night in the hotel,

992
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,760
the same thing happened that had been happening all my life.

993
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,519
That night, I had taken a bath soaked in a

994
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:54,000
bubble bath. We had ordered pizza. I was well rested

995
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:56,400
because we'd been doing nothing but hanging out at this

996
00:55:56,519 --> 00:55:59,519
hotel and walking around for days now, so I was

997
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:03,119
well read. I felt totally one hundred percent normal and

998
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,679
back to my normal self. And I didn't have to

999
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,039
think about what was going to happen at this mountain

1000
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:10,199
because that was over now. I wasn't even going to

1001
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,920
make it to the mountain, So I was relaxed. I

1002
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:16,000
was comfortable, I felt good, and I went to bed

1003
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,280
on that third or fourth night at that hotel, and

1004
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,559
I woke up the next morning and it was that

1005
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,480
same hangover feeling. I woke up feeling like I had

1006
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:29,440
been worked over physically and mentally. I could feel the

1007
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:32,840
ache in my muscles, I could feel the trauma, the fear.

1008
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,800
The back of my head was fuzzy again, and I

1009
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,239
knew that something had happened again, But I had nothing

1010
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,960
to latch onto, no memory as to what could be

1011
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:46,800
causing me to feel this way. I felt fine when

1012
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,440
I went to bed last night, I supposedly got eight

1013
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:52,440
hours of sleep. Why am I waking up feeling like

1014
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:56,719
this again? So that happened every night for the next

1015
00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:00,360
three or four nights at that hotel, and I I knew,

1016
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:04,519
I could feel. I could sense that something had stopped

1017
00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:07,800
me from making it to Mount Raineer, that something had

1018
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,840
caused my car to break down. And every night something

1019
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,639
was getting a hold of me and doing something to me.

1020
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,559
Because each day that I woke up, I felt worse

1021
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:20,840
and worse, and I felt this fear and panic, And

1022
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,800
so I started hounding the repair shop, like getting nasty

1023
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,480
with them, telling them, look, this is crazy. I've been

1024
00:57:27,559 --> 00:57:29,880
here seven eight days. Now, you got to get this

1025
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,119
part and get my car fixed. I need to go

1026
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,440
home now. So finally, a few days later, they did

1027
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:39,159
get the part, got my car fixed, and we did

1028
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,880
end up making it home, and there weren't too many

1029
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,519
more incidents on the way home. But I still had

1030
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:48,840
this uneasy feeling like I was being followed, like I

1031
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,760
was being watched. Something was very interested in me, but

1032
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:56,719
I didn't know what, and so we went back home.

1033
00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:01,039
And of course I'm a pretty persistent person and I

1034
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:03,440
was not about to give up. So I kind of

1035
00:58:03,559 --> 00:58:06,119
chalked that up as the trial run as to what

1036
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,360
I was up against here and what it was going

1037
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,079
to take for me to make it out to Mount Rainier.

1038
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:15,079
So I changed some things around to make sure that

1039
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:18,440
it would go smoother. The next time. I had gotten

1040
00:58:18,599 --> 00:58:21,920
this finder that I had put together for almost a year.

1041
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:26,159
I had detailed road maps, I had the mileage from

1042
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:28,840
one point to the next. I had every one of

1043
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,760
my stops planned out to be stopped in a big

1044
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:37,440
area with a Walmart or a large store or parking

1045
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:39,960
lot that was open twenty four hours, that there would

1046
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,599
be people coming and going, that we could sleep in

1047
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:45,760
the back of the car in a public setting. I

1048
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,880
also changed up the night and day thing. Instead of

1049
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:51,519
driving all day and then trying to sleep at night,

1050
00:58:51,719 --> 00:58:54,639
I switched that because I realized that these things are

1051
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:57,519
happening at night while I'm sleeping. They're getting a hold

1052
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:01,280
of me while I'm sleeping. So I came and I said, Okay,

1053
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,960
we'll drive all night, because at least I'll be awake

1054
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:06,360
and I'll have some chance of fighting this off. And

1055
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,599
then during the day we'll go to one of these

1056
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:12,760
public places and hopefully with a security camera and lots

1057
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,719
of traffic, people, traffic going in and out of the

1058
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,280
parking lot. And it seemed to work. It definitely seemed

1059
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,760
to work. I felt like there were no strange events

1060
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,800
happening that I wasn't feeling that that hungover, feeling like

1061
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:31,280
like something had gotten a hold of me. So I

1062
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,599
made it all the way out to Mountaineer on that

1063
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,239
second time with almost nothing happening, and my dog and

1064
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,920
I were hiking around the base of the mountain and

1065
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:44,639
it was beautiful. It looked just like the picture in

1066
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,519
the calendar that I had tore out and kept with me.

1067
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,079
But I knew as soon as I got there that

1068
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:52,679
this was not the mountain that I was being called to,

1069
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:56,199
And so we spent a few days hiking around the

1070
00:59:56,239 --> 00:59:59,239
mountain and taking it easy, and I knew at that point,

1071
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:02,400
I'm going have to go to Alaska, and that's a

1072
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:07,079
much bigger ordeal than the Mountaineer in Washington State. So

1073
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:12,039
I'm gonna need to go home and prepare for a

1074
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,840
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1099
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:58,639
and we were few states away from Ohio and my Grandma.

1100
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,039
Before I had left done that trip, my Grandma was

1101
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:03,960
getting older and she was having some health problems, and

1102
01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:07,039
she had ended up having to have a bypass surgery

1103
01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:10,840
on her heart. She struggled during the recovery, and I

1104
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,199
knew that my grandma wasn't going to be around very

1105
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,639
much longer. I was closer to my grandma than any

1106
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:18,800
person on the face of this earth. She and I

1107
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:22,119
were just as tired as you could be. So we

1108
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,079
had always had this running joke. I had always told her.

1109
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:27,440
I had made her promise me that she would die

1110
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,159
when I was out of town because I couldn't handle it.

1111
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,960
I couldn't be the one to watch it. I couldn't

1112
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,559
see that happen, that I would never recover from it.

1113
01:02:35,719 --> 01:02:37,559
And it was always a joke with us, like now,

1114
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:39,920
remember you're you're not going to kick the bucket until

1115
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,360
I'm out of town on vacation or something, and she

1116
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,320
would always laugh and say, yeah, yeah, I promise. I promised.

1117
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:48,880
So on the way back from this second trip that

1118
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,119
we had made it to Mount Rainier, we had had

1119
01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:54,800
a beautiful day. We stopped and spent the whole day hiking,

1120
01:02:55,159 --> 01:02:58,119
and I was going to be driving in the overnight

1121
01:02:58,239 --> 01:03:02,199
hours because I just felt safer that way. And so

1122
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,880
we're driving it's nighttime after a beautiful day of hiking.

1123
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,960
I was physically tired because we had hiked longer than

1124
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,840
I thought we were going to. We kind of got

1125
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,880
lost and got off trail and it was a much

1126
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,280
longer hike and much more physically exerting than I thought

1127
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,519
it was going to be. So as we take off

1128
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:23,199
driving that night, I realized, like, I'm not going to

1129
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:26,360
be able to drive all night. I'm physically exhausted from

1130
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,639
our hike, and I need to get at least a

1131
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:32,360
few hours of sleep. So I decided to pull off.

1132
01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:35,199
It was a rest area, and I didn't pull all

1133
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,519
the way down to the rest area. I sort of

1134
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,719
pulled off the side of the exit ramp, just pulled

1135
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,960
under a light, and there was lots of traffic not lots,

1136
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:48,360
but there was traffic occasionally getting off of the exit

1137
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:53,280
ramp to go into the rest area, and for some reason,

1138
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,880
I just felt safer on the exit ramp because at

1139
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,039
the rest area you've heard stories about, you know, people

1140
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:02,039
getting robbed, kidnapped, and I thought, Okay, well, at least

1141
01:04:02,159 --> 01:04:04,079
up here on the exit ramp, you know, there's not

1142
01:04:04,199 --> 01:04:06,960
going to be people outside of their cars walking around

1143
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:10,559
and walking around by our vehicle, but there's still going

1144
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:14,039
to be a steady flow of traffic and people driving by.

1145
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:17,199
And were underneath this light, so this was the safest

1146
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,199
area that I felt was the safest spot for me

1147
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,960
to crawl into the back and sleep for just a

1148
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:27,760
couple hours until I felt replenished enough to get behind

1149
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,639
the wheel again. So we pulled off at this rest

1150
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,239
area and we're underneath this light. I was asleep and

1151
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,559
my dog was asleep in the back of the suv,

1152
01:04:38,199 --> 01:04:41,679
and something awoke me out of a deep sleep. I

1153
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,159
don't know what it was. I just sat straight up

1154
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,119
in the back of the suv, and when I sat up,

1155
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,599
I could see this gold ball of light coming towards

1156
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:58,519
my car, and I felt I didn't feel that evil

1157
01:04:58,679 --> 01:05:01,119
or that darkness that I had been feeling with the

1158
01:05:01,199 --> 01:05:04,440
events that have been happening to me. This light was

1159
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:09,239
radiating with warmth and love, and it just made me

1160
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,239
feel so good all over my body. It's hard to

1161
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,920
explain what it did. It made me all tingly and

1162
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,440
made me feel so loved and a part of something whole.

1163
01:05:19,719 --> 01:05:25,119
And so this light comes through the back window of

1164
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,400
my suv and it starts to enter into my chest.

1165
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,239
And as the light is entering into my chest, there's

1166
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,519
some recognition there. I recognize this, and after all the

1167
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:42,960
light had entered into my body, it hit me, this

1168
01:05:43,199 --> 01:05:48,639
is my grandma's soul. And then that quickly in my head,

1169
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,480
I hear my grandma's voice say, no, matter what happens,

1170
01:05:52,519 --> 01:05:56,320
it's okay. And the light starts drifting out of my back.

1171
01:05:57,159 --> 01:05:59,840
And as that light is drifting out of my back,

1172
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:05,360
I am left with this feeling of just such a loss,

1173
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:08,880
in such a sadness, and this feeling like I'm being

1174
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:12,719
left all alone here now you're leaving me, and I

1175
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,440
just I was sobbing so hard, I wasn't even breathing,

1176
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,880
and I grabbed my dog and I was just rocking

1177
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:23,280
and crying, and I realized that my grandma had just died.

1178
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:26,639
That was my Grandma's soul, and I turned and looked

1179
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:30,480
at the cloth and the twenty two am. I don't

1180
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:34,800
remember going back to sleep, but apparently I did, because

1181
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,079
the next memory I have is my cell phone ringing

1182
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,280
at seven point thirty in the morning, and it was

1183
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,639
my dad, and he didn't want to tell me that

1184
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,239
my grandma had died because he was worried how I

1185
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,599
would make it all those miles that I still had

1186
01:06:50,639 --> 01:06:54,360
to drive home, knowing that my grandma had passed. Everyone

1187
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,039
knew how close I was to her. Everyone had been

1188
01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:00,239
worried for years how I would handle this when she

1189
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,119
finally passed. So my phone rings at seven point thirty

1190
01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:07,800
in the morning, and my Dad is trying to keep

1191
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,480
a normal voice, a normal tone of voice, and he

1192
01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:13,519
says to me, Yeah, I need you to come on

1193
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:16,480
back home now, right now, and we'll talk when you

1194
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:19,199
get here. He didn't want to tell me that my

1195
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,199
grandma had died, and I said to him, Dad, I

1196
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,440
already know Grandma died. Last night. At one twenty two am,

1197
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:30,400
her spirit came and said goodbye to me, and I

1198
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:34,599
could feel the shock and disbelief. I could feel it

1199
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:40,880
through the phone. He was just stunned, and he said, well,

1200
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:45,000
the death certificate actually says one twenty six. But yeah,

1201
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,719
that's that's pretty strange. And at the time I knew

1202
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,840
that my time of one twenty two was the correct time,

1203
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:57,480
and I knew that the reason the death certificate said

1204
01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:01,679
one twenty six was because after the soul leaves the body,

1205
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:09,079
the bioelectric activity slowly shut down and there is still

1206
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,400
some of that activity registering until it's completely gone and

1207
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,800
you're medically declared dead no activity. So I knew that

1208
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,960
her soul had departed this existence at one twenty two.

1209
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:24,960
But this was not a time to say I told

1210
01:08:25,039 --> 01:08:27,560
you so, or prove that I was right, because in

1211
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:32,399
addition to feeling that shock and disbelief from him, I

1212
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,680
also felt some jealousy from him that his mother had

1213
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,800
chose to do that with me and not him her son,

1214
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,000
and I could feel his hurt. Also. This was his

1215
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:48,319
mom that he had just lost. So I didn't say

1216
01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:50,920
anything about that. I just said, oh, yeah, you know,

1217
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:55,000
a couple of minutes different. That is pretty strange. And

1218
01:08:55,159 --> 01:09:00,119
so I continued back and made it back and they

1219
01:09:00,199 --> 01:09:04,039
actually postponed my grandmother's funeral until I made it back

1220
01:09:04,079 --> 01:09:06,960
from this trip, and they had asked me to speak

1221
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,720
at her funeral because they knew that I was the

1222
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,800
closest person in the world to her. But I couldn't.

1223
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:17,720
I could barely breathe. I just there was no way

1224
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,520
I would be able to stand up there on my

1225
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,920
feet and speak coherently without just completely losing it. So

1226
01:09:24,079 --> 01:09:26,319
I told him, no, I can't do it. I don't

1227
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:28,439
even know if I'm going to make it through this funeral,

1228
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,319
but I definitely can't speak at it. So I'm sitting

1229
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,680
in my grandma's funeral and I had dreaded it that

1230
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,520
moment the whole trip back. That's all I kept thinking

1231
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,199
was I can still put this out of my mind.

1232
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,479
I know it happened, but I'm not forced to accept

1233
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,319
it just yet. But that funeral was that moment that

1234
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,840
I was forced to accept it, that I had to

1235
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,239
accept that that door was shut, that I would not

1236
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,239
see her again. And it was choking me to death

1237
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,119
having to swallow it and accept it and sit there

1238
01:10:02,279 --> 01:10:05,920
at her funeral. And I didn't want to go up

1239
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,760
to her casket, but I knew that I would regret

1240
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,760
it if I didn't, So I forced myself to go

1241
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,199
up to the casket. And when I walked up to

1242
01:10:15,279 --> 01:10:20,359
the casket, I almost didn't recognize her. It didn't even

1243
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:25,279
look like her, like there was definitely something missing, and

1244
01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:30,159
I realized that her soul, or that light that animates

1245
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:34,319
the body, that makes us who we are, is what

1246
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,439
was missing, and what was laying there was just a

1247
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,279
shell of a body that looked and felt nothing like

1248
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,199
my grandma when she was alive. It was her soul

1249
01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:50,359
that was missing. And so I sit back down at

1250
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,319
the funeral and they're reading the little sayings and different

1251
01:10:54,359 --> 01:10:58,359
people are getting up there talking and all of a sudden,

1252
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,079
those telltale signs and start happening. The back of my

1253
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:06,920
head starts feeling fuzzy, the rooms starts spinning, I'm having

1254
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,640
a hard time breathing, and all of a sudden, I

1255
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:16,359
have this flashback, and in this flashback, I am four

1256
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,399
or five years old, and it was one of the

1257
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,000
most cherished activities that I would do with my grandmother.

1258
01:11:25,279 --> 01:11:28,239
She would sit on her couch with a pillow on

1259
01:11:28,359 --> 01:11:31,079
her lap, and I would lay my head on the

1260
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:35,119
pillow and she would either with a brush but usually

1261
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:39,760
with her hands run her fingers through my hair. And

1262
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,000
so my flashback is one of those times that she

1263
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:47,720
was doing that. And I look to be somewhere between

1264
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:51,479
four or five, maybe six years old. Top I was young,

1265
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,960
and I'm laying on the couch and my grandmother is

1266
01:11:55,119 --> 01:11:58,880
running her fingers through my hair. And as she's touching

1267
01:11:59,079 --> 01:12:02,479
my head before or she pulls her fingers down through

1268
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,880
my long hair, I'm feeling this tangling feeling in my head.

1269
01:12:07,079 --> 01:12:11,119
It feels like she's transferring this energy from her fingertips

1270
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,880
to my head, and it gives me goosebumps. It gives

1271
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,720
me tangles all over, and it feels really good, and

1272
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,279
it puts me to sleep. Every time she does it.

1273
01:12:20,359 --> 01:12:22,640
It puts me to sleep. And when I wake up,

1274
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,279
she's still running her fingers through my hair, and I

1275
01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:30,800
wake up feeling just so snug and comfortable and just

1276
01:12:31,159 --> 01:12:35,840
overwhelmed with love. And so in this flashback, I'm seeing

1277
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,920
myself laying on the couch with her, and she's running

1278
01:12:39,039 --> 01:12:42,479
her fingers through my hair, and just as I'm about

1279
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,720
to fall asleep, she thinks I am asleep, but I

1280
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,479
actually wasn't quite asleep yet. It was like in that

1281
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:54,760
moment before you drift into unconsciousness. She says out loud,

1282
01:12:56,079 --> 01:12:59,399
I wonder where you are right now, baby girl. You

1283
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,640
know we can and leave our bodies when we sleep

1284
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:06,600
and go on the most magical journey. And upon hearing this,

1285
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,359
I sit straight up and I turn and look to her,

1286
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,199
and I have the biggest, scaredest eyes and I'm shaking

1287
01:13:15,359 --> 01:13:19,720
my head no, and I'm trying to tell her telepathically

1288
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:23,079
or with my eyes. I'm not allowed to do that.

1289
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,319
I'm not allowed to do that. I can't do that.

1290
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,880
And she sees how scared I am and how shaken

1291
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,520
I am, and at first she looks very confused, and

1292
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,680
then it's like she snaps out of it, and she

1293
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,479
tells me, hey, it's okay, don't worry about it. Just

1294
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,800
just lay back down and go to sleep. And I

1295
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,479
lay down on the pillow, but I'm actually shaking, and

1296
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,720
I'm really tense and rigid, and there's no way I

1297
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,800
can get comfortable at this point. And she starts running

1298
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,159
her fingers through my hair again, but it's different. There's

1299
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:57,199
no energy transfer. I don't feel good about it. I

1300
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,279
just feel the touch of her putting her fingers through

1301
01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:04,239
my hair, and all of a sudden, it's like I

1302
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:07,840
had been pulled into a vacuum, like time and space

1303
01:14:08,079 --> 01:14:11,039
had just ceased to exist, and I was somewhere else

1304
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:13,760
seeing this flashback of me and my grandma when I

1305
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,079
was four or five, maybe six years old, and all

1306
01:14:17,159 --> 01:14:20,600
of a sudden, that quickly, it's like the vacuum is

1307
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,039
sucked out of me. And I'm sitting back in my

1308
01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:28,199
grandma's funeral, and at this point, I'm actually hyperventilating. I'm

1309
01:14:28,359 --> 01:14:32,000
overwhelmed by what I've just been shown and realizing that

1310
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:34,560
I've left my body before and that my grandma is

1311
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,239
aware of this, and that coupled with the fact that

1312
01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:41,479
she's no longer with us and that I won't see

1313
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,359
her anymore, it all just came crashing down on top

1314
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,880
of me. And I felt like I was going to

1315
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,560
pass out, and I jumped up in the middle of

1316
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,680
my grandma's funeral and I said, I got to get

1317
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,920
out of here, and I just turned and ran out

1318
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,640
the back door, and I threw myself into the driver's

1319
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,840
seat of my car, and I was shaking so bad,

1320
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,399
and my legs had lost all of their strength. They

1321
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:09,000
felt like jello. I didn't even feel strong enough to

1322
01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:11,359
turn on the car and drive, so I just sat

1323
01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:15,079
there in the parking lot, really weak and shaking, And

1324
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:17,600
after a while some people came out to check on me,

1325
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,079
and they asked me to come back in and I

1326
01:15:20,199 --> 01:15:22,439
told them I can't, I don't want to. I'm not

1327
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,479
coming back in there, and I didn't. I didn't go

1328
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:30,159
back in there. I did eventually calm down, and I

1329
01:15:30,279 --> 01:15:34,000
followed the funeral procession to the graveyard and was there

1330
01:15:34,079 --> 01:15:38,399
for her burial, and it was really tough to have

1331
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,000
to accept that that she is gone and that door

1332
01:15:42,119 --> 01:15:45,199
is now closed for me. So that happened on the

1333
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,479
second trip, my second road trip, where I had actually

1334
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,399
made it to Mountaineer, and it was on the way

1335
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,359
back that my grandma had died and all of that happened.

1336
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:00,319
So after my grandma died, it actually made me angry.

1337
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,119
I was mad at God. I was mad at whatever

1338
01:16:03,319 --> 01:16:05,479
power it was that was doing all of this to

1339
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,880
me and why they had taken her from me. This

1340
01:16:09,079 --> 01:16:11,000
was the person that I was closest to in the

1341
01:16:11,119 --> 01:16:14,720
world and all this crazy, messed up stuff is happening

1342
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,680
to me, and they chose that time to take her

1343
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,600
from me, and I knew it was selfish to feel

1344
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,880
that way, but I did. I was angry, very angry,

1345
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,279
and I had this message, this feeling is this like

1346
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,239
I don't want to say telepathic, because I didn't actually

1347
01:16:31,359 --> 01:16:34,439
hear a voice, but it was like suddenly, maybe you

1348
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,319
would liken it to like a download. I suddenly had

1349
01:16:37,399 --> 01:16:41,239
this feeling or this knowledge inside me that said, you

1350
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,840
have to walk this dark part of the path alone.

1351
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,520
And I didn't understand that dark part of the path.

1352
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,359
What does that mean? What path? What is all of this?

1353
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,000
Why is this happening? What do they want me to do?

1354
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,840
But you know, I wasn't given any further explanation. It

1355
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,399
was just that message, you have to work off this

1356
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:04,239
dark part of the past alone, and I connected that

1357
01:17:04,399 --> 01:17:07,399
with the fact that my grandma was gone and now

1358
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,960
I was alone and on my own, and so all

1359
01:17:12,039 --> 01:17:15,439
of my fear of knowing okay, you know, I was

1360
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,640
right that these last episodes have this dark tone, this

1361
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,039
evil tone. They're different than the things that have been

1362
01:17:21,079 --> 01:17:24,000
happening to me all my life. And I've always known

1363
01:17:24,079 --> 01:17:28,560
that there is good and bad, light and dark, good

1364
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,079
and evil, whatever you want to call it. Yin and Yang.

1365
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,720
I've always known that my whole life, and I've always

1366
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,159
kind of had this sense when I would meet people,

1367
01:17:37,359 --> 01:17:41,159
I would like, I say, I could read energy signatures.

1368
01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:43,399
I would know if if they were of the Light

1369
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,479
team or the dark team. I could sense evil, and

1370
01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:50,560
it helps me. It kept me safe. I knew certain

1371
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,479
people to avoid, and throughout my whole life, I'd had

1372
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,960
that ability of distinguishing the dark from the light. And

1373
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,600
so now I'm scared to death because I have flat

1374
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,720
out been told that, yeah, I'm on a dark path here,

1375
01:18:05,359 --> 01:18:08,680
and my Grandma's gone, and so I felt like I

1376
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,000
was being punished. I've done something wrong. Why would I

1377
01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:14,560
be having to walk a dark path. I've always been

1378
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,760
protected by the light, and I've always felt that loving

1379
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,319
sense of belonging and protection from them, and suddenly they're gone.

1380
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,800
I don't feel that light or that protection or that love.

1381
01:18:26,199 --> 01:18:30,479
I just feel scared, scared to death of what's coming

1382
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,079
my way, and I know it's dark, and it's not

1383
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:35,079
something I want to be a part of. I don't

1384
01:18:35,079 --> 01:18:37,000
want to experience this. I don't want to walk the

1385
01:18:37,119 --> 01:18:39,920
dark path, but of course you have no choice. Every

1386
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,479
day I kept waking up and I'm still here, and

1387
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,920
so I knew that it was pointless to try and

1388
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,039
avoid it. There was no way to make it stop.

1389
01:18:49,159 --> 01:18:52,439
Whatever this was, it was obviously destined to happen to

1390
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,760
me and was going to happen to me. So the

1391
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,000
best thing that I could do was tuck away that fear,

1392
01:18:58,279 --> 01:19:00,640
because that doesn't serve me, it doesn't help me. That

1393
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,279
just handicaps me to deal with this stuff and just

1394
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,520
do the best I can with it. And when it's over,

1395
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,159
it's over. So I let all that anger and all

1396
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:15,359
that fear just turn into determination for me, and I

1397
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,680
was like, that's it. I am going to go at

1398
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,279
this with a vengeance, and so I started planning my

1399
01:19:21,399 --> 01:19:25,439
trip to Alaska. Once my grandma had died, I went

1400
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,479
and bought a brand new car. While I had come

1401
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,520
into some money, obviously, she left me everything in the

1402
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,880
world that she had. She and I were as close

1403
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,279
as to people could be, and it caused a little

1404
01:19:36,279 --> 01:19:39,119
bit of problems with other family members, but yet they

1405
01:19:39,279 --> 01:19:42,800
expected it wholeheartedly, and sure enough she left everything to me.

1406
01:19:43,239 --> 01:19:47,479
So I used that money to prepare myself for this

1407
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,399
final trip, this final showdown to Alaska. I bought a

1408
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,439
brand new car, so there wouldn't be any trouble with

1409
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:59,159
car problems or anything like that. I researched the trip,

1410
01:19:59,319 --> 01:20:02,640
and I had extra tires and fix the flat, and

1411
01:20:03,119 --> 01:20:07,600
I created an extensive first aid kit. I mean, this

1412
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,319
thing rivaled the best of them, because I knew how

1413
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,439
desolate it was in Alaska. I knew I was going

1414
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,479
to be out there in the mountainous areas on my

1415
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,960
own with my dog, trying to climb some mountain to

1416
01:20:20,079 --> 01:20:23,079
look for something that's apparently there for me. And I

1417
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:25,319
knew that nobody would be there to help me. So

1418
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,239
I had to make sure that I was prepared and

1419
01:20:28,359 --> 01:20:30,479
that I could help myself. This wasn't the kind of

1420
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,079
trip that you just on a whim tape off drive in.

1421
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,079
So I had spent probably close to a year preparing

1422
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:40,279
for this trip. And in my first aid kit, I

1423
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,680
had some very powerful painkillers, and I had like a

1424
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,960
needle and thread to give myself stitches if I needed to.

1425
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:52,399
I had patches that would like steal up open gaping

1426
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,960
wounds to stop the blood loss. And I just I

1427
01:20:56,119 --> 01:20:59,439
was thinking of every possible worst case scenario and what

1428
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,319
I could possibly face out there. I went and got

1429
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:05,800
a shotgun, and my uncle, who was very into shooting,

1430
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,840
trained me on the gun for almost a year, and

1431
01:21:10,279 --> 01:21:13,279
I could take apart and put together that gun like

1432
01:21:13,399 --> 01:21:17,279
it was nothing. And I'll never forget something that my

1433
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,159
uncle said to me. I had gotten the shotgun and

1434
01:21:20,279 --> 01:21:22,760
learned how to use it in case I came across

1435
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,199
a bear or a mountain, lion or something. When I

1436
01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:27,720
was in the wilderness looking for this mountain, that's what

1437
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,039
I assumed that I might need that gun for. So

1438
01:21:31,199 --> 01:21:34,319
after training with my uncle on one of our last

1439
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:36,760
training sessions, I'll never forget what he said to me.

1440
01:21:37,359 --> 01:21:41,399
He said, don't ever point this gun at anything you

1441
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,800
don't want to kill. But if you have to point

1442
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,680
this gun, you better be ready and able to pull

1443
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,640
that trigger. And that's saying just always sat in the

1444
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,760
back of my head. I don't know why, but it

1445
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,840
was always there. It was in my head when I

1446
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,439
was on this trip, like, Okay, that gun is a

1447
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,720
last sort, but if I have to reach for that gun,

1448
01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:06,079
don't hesitate, don't even think about it. Pull the trigger.

1449
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,560
So I had my gun, and I had my first

1450
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:12,319
aid kid. I had any and all fluids and extra

1451
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,600
tires and things that I could need for the car

1452
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,560
and my dog and I were going to set out

1453
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,199
on this journey for the third time now, trying to

1454
01:22:21,279 --> 01:22:23,720
make it to this mountain that I've been called to,

1455
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,239
and something inside of me just knew. I just felt

1456
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,279
that this was a one way trip that I would

1457
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:36,199
not be coming back. And even though I knew that

1458
01:22:36,399 --> 01:22:39,680
it was going to be my end, I also knew

1459
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:43,439
that it was my salvation and that I had to

1460
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,479
do it, that I couldn't let my attachment to this

1461
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:52,680
reality stop me from succeeding or winning in what I

1462
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,800
knew was even more real than this reality, which was

1463
01:22:57,079 --> 01:22:59,479
all of these things that were happening to me and

1464
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,239
the mess that I were being given, and how they

1465
01:23:02,279 --> 01:23:06,720
were lining up with and interacting with my physical reality.

1466
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,239
That's what convinced me that no, I'm not crazy, because

1467
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,039
these things are actually lining up with and interacting with

1468
01:23:14,279 --> 01:23:18,760
my physical reality, So it is real. These things are

1469
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,920
really happening, and they have helped me and guided me

1470
01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:25,239
early on, and now all of a sudden, I'm faced

1471
01:23:25,279 --> 01:23:28,479
with all these dark things, and I know I'm in

1472
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,199
a whole different territory here, like this is a different

1473
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,279
set of circumstances the Dark Path as it was told

1474
01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:38,960
to me, and I knew that I was being called

1475
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,079
out to this mountain, and something inside me just knew

1476
01:23:42,199 --> 01:23:44,960
that this was a one way trip. So as I

1477
01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:48,119
prepared myself and I was actually kind of relieved. I

1478
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:51,000
needed this to be over. I couldn't function like this

1479
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:53,840
much longer. It just was taking such a toll on me,

1480
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,199
and I was so scared all the time and paranoid,

1481
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,840
and I didn't trust anybody, and the anxiety and trauma

1482
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,760
all the time, and just feeling exhausted all the time.

1483
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,000
I was like, I can't do this anymore. I need

1484
01:24:08,119 --> 01:24:10,600
this to end. I want it to end. So I'm

1485
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,239
going to go on this final trip to Alaska. Whatever

1486
01:24:14,359 --> 01:24:16,399
this is I'm supposed to face, I'm going to face

1487
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,800
it and then it's going to be over. And that's

1488
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,600
okay with me. So as I got closer to time

1489
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,840
to leave for this trip, I started struggling a little

1490
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,279
bit with my attachment to my life and my family

1491
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,880
and all the things that I knew I was not

1492
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,760
going to see anymore. And the day that I was leaving,

1493
01:24:37,119 --> 01:24:39,920
I wouldn't make eye contact with anyone. I gave him

1494
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,279
a hug goodbye, and I was saying, oh, yeah, I'll

1495
01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:44,000
be back in a couple of months. You know, We're

1496
01:24:44,079 --> 01:24:46,399
just going to go out there. And I never told

1497
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,760
anybody why it was that I felt I needed to

1498
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,239
go to Alaska. I kind of made up this little lie.

1499
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,359
My dog was a husky, and so I made up

1500
01:24:55,399 --> 01:24:57,680
this little lie for my family and told them, oh,

1501
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,960
I promised my dog that I would take him back

1502
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:03,239
to his area of heritage. And I've always wanted to

1503
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:05,479
go to Alaska, and so him and I are going

1504
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,640
to do this and we'll be okay, don't worry about it,

1505
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,840
you know. And so on the day that I'm getting

1506
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,319
ready to leave, I couldn't look anybody in the eye

1507
01:25:12,399 --> 01:25:14,840
because I felt like if I did that, I would

1508
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,680
just break down crying, and that I would still everything

1509
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,960
everything that's been happening to me and why I was

1510
01:25:20,039 --> 01:25:23,039
going to Alaska, and that this was a permanent goodbye

1511
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:26,359
and I would not be coming back. And I couldn't

1512
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,520
do that because I knew they would stop me from going.

1513
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,239
So I wouldn't make eye contact with anyone. I just

1514
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,279
I hugged them, and when they were talking to me,

1515
01:25:34,399 --> 01:25:36,359
I would look off and look away. And I was

1516
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,560
kind of nervous and shuffling, and I would just tell them, oh, yeah,

1517
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,520
don't you know, don't worry about it. I'll call you

1518
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,199
every so often let you know I'm okay, and we've

1519
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:46,720
got everything we need. I got plenty of money, you know.

1520
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:48,960
Just don't worry about me. I'll be back in a

1521
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,520
few months and everything will be fine. But of course

1522
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,680
they were worried about me. My parents were terrified that

1523
01:25:55,239 --> 01:25:58,600
their daughter, who they know, has had strange things going on,

1524
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,800
and they were witness to some strange things, like my

1525
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,760
mom when I was telling her about the woman and

1526
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,600
the casket that I kept seeing. They had witnessed some

1527
01:26:09,079 --> 01:26:11,800
little things. They knew that there were strange things about me,

1528
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,800
and it kind of scared them. And then during this

1529
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,359
period of time, they could see that mentally I was

1530
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,640
really struggling. I was coming undone, that things were getting

1531
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,039
worse for me. I was having a hard time maintaining

1532
01:26:27,399 --> 01:26:30,399
my normal three D life with the amount of this

1533
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,159
high strangeness stuff that was happening, and as much as

1534
01:26:35,319 --> 01:26:37,800
was happening on such a regular basis, it was just

1535
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,399
getting to be too much for me. So I say

1536
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:44,000
my goodbye and my dog and I head out for

1537
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:46,760
what we know is going to be a one way trip.

1538
01:26:47,319 --> 01:26:52,640
So on the third trip, as I'm getting out closer

1539
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,199
to the Washington State area where I would then have

1540
01:26:56,319 --> 01:26:58,800
to go north up through Canada to get to Alaska.

1541
01:26:59,279 --> 01:27:02,159
As I get close closer to the West coast, I

1542
01:27:02,319 --> 01:27:06,840
start feeling that same feeling of I'm not alone. Something's

1543
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,720
watching me. They know that I'm making another shot at

1544
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,680
getting to this mountain, and they're going to try and

1545
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,239
stop me again. They stopped me the first two times

1546
01:27:17,319 --> 01:27:22,000
from getting there to Alaska anyway. And I just know

1547
01:27:22,199 --> 01:27:25,279
that I'm being watched, and not just by one faction,

1548
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:30,439
I'm being watched by multiple factions, and that something is

1549
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,720
going to try to prevent me from getting there. And

1550
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,119
so now I'm even more anxious and worried and what's

1551
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:37,880
coming my way and what am I going to have

1552
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,760
to fend off and deal with? And am I going

1553
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,159
to make it there or am I not? My dog

1554
01:27:42,279 --> 01:27:46,520
and I suddenly were struck with this illness. I mean

1555
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,600
we were sick, like something was attacking us an energy.

1556
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,479
I could feel it, and it was making us so sick.

1557
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,760
We couldn't eat or drink anything we couldn't even drink

1558
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,039
a little water that we were just vomiting, and I

1559
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:02,359
felt like I had had a nervous breakdown, but I

1560
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,239
didn't know over what. I had nothing there to pin

1561
01:28:06,359 --> 01:28:09,479
it to. But we were clearly a mess. I mean

1562
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,000
something was attacking us. We were very sick. My nerves

1563
01:28:13,079 --> 01:28:16,680
were just shot. But I was determined, like, no, I'm

1564
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,199
going to push through. Nothing's going to stop me. I

1565
01:28:19,399 --> 01:28:22,600
Am going to get there no matter what. And so

1566
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,279
we cross over into the Yukon territory and things got

1567
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,840
really desolate really fast. I mean you would go for

1568
01:28:31,359 --> 01:28:35,840
days without seeing another car or another human being. You

1569
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,039
had to stop at every gas station that you came across,

1570
01:28:39,279 --> 01:28:43,079
because the gas stations were placed just close enough to

1571
01:28:43,239 --> 01:28:45,640
get you to the next gas station, so you had

1572
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,920
no choice but to stop at every gas station and

1573
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,079
fill up. So we kept feeling like we were being attacked.

1574
01:28:52,159 --> 01:28:55,159
And my dog was extremely sick. I mean he had

1575
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:57,840
an ate or drink or go gone to the bathroom

1576
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,920
and probably close to a week. And I was almost

1577
01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:04,159
just as bad, and not quite as bad, but I

1578
01:29:04,319 --> 01:29:07,319
was in really bad shape too, and I knew that

1579
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,239
something was trying to stop us from making it to Alaska.

1580
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,920
But that just increased my determination anymore and even more,

1581
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,239
and I thought, well, obviously I'm on the right track

1582
01:29:17,279 --> 01:29:19,119
and I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. If

1583
01:29:19,199 --> 01:29:21,560
something is going to this much trouble to stop me,

1584
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,239
so screw them. I am going to push through and

1585
01:29:24,319 --> 01:29:25,479
I am going to make it there.

1586
01:29:33,159 --> 01:29:36,720
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1594
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Speaker 4: And we did make it there. Unfortunately, while I was

1595
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:18,119
in Anchorage, some really, really bad things happened. It started

1596
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:22,359
with I had wanted to go to a souvenir store

1597
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,760
and purchase some like sweatshirts and different things, just on

1598
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,199
the off chance that we did make it back there,

1599
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,800
or to kind of make the trip look normal, because

1600
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,239
I would have all these mementos that I was bringing

1601
01:30:35,319 --> 01:30:38,159
back for my family and the receipts from these stores

1602
01:30:38,239 --> 01:30:41,600
and stuff. So for whatever reason, I decided to stop

1603
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,359
and get these these little souvenir type things at this store.

1604
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,199
And I left my dog in my car and I

1605
01:30:48,319 --> 01:30:51,199
had the windows cracked, just a couple of inches, the

1606
01:30:51,319 --> 01:30:54,199
front and the back sub windows, and I went into

1607
01:30:54,279 --> 01:30:56,600
the store. And while I was in the store, and

1608
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,479
I really wasn't even paying attention to like what I

1609
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,439
was grabbed. I didn't care what size the sweatshirt were.

1610
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,640
I didn't care if they were the coolest one or

1611
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,760
the one that I liked best. I was just trying

1612
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,520
to grab some souvenir stuff to make this look like

1613
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,359
a legit tourist trip to Alasta, so that I could

1614
01:31:12,399 --> 01:31:14,720
throw those in the car before I headed off into

1615
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,880
the mountains to find whatever this was that awaits me there.

1616
01:31:18,319 --> 01:31:21,279
And as I'm grabbing all of these things, I get

1617
01:31:21,359 --> 01:31:24,960
this overwhelming feeling that I have to get out of

1618
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,279
there right now. I have to get out of here

1619
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,680
right now, and I just stopped in my track. I

1620
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:34,079
took whatever items I had in my hands, I went

1621
01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:37,239
to the register, threw some cash. Adam told him keep

1622
01:31:37,319 --> 01:31:40,079
the change, I ran out the door, and as I

1623
01:31:40,199 --> 01:31:43,000
run out the door, there are two men trying to

1624
01:31:43,039 --> 01:31:46,640
break into my car, and one was at the back

1625
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,319
window that had been rolled down a couple of inches,

1626
01:31:49,399 --> 01:31:52,039
and one was at the front window, both on the

1627
01:31:52,119 --> 01:31:55,640
passenger side of the car. And as one would try

1628
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,039
to stick his hand in the back window that was

1629
01:31:58,159 --> 01:32:00,479
rolled down for my dogs to get some man, my

1630
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,319
dog would lunge at him. And when my dog lunged

1631
01:32:03,359 --> 01:32:05,359
at the one in the back, the one in the

1632
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,079
front would try to put his hand down in the window.

1633
01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:10,760
And so my dog was just lunging back and forth,

1634
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,960
back and forth so quickly, and I could tell that

1635
01:32:14,119 --> 01:32:17,359
he couldn't hold out any longer. They were gonna get

1636
01:32:17,399 --> 01:32:19,359
over on him and get to the locker or the

1637
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,119
window or something. And I came out of the store

1638
01:32:22,399 --> 01:32:24,760
just in time before that happened, and I hit the

1639
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,600
alarm button on my car, and I started screaming, Hey,

1640
01:32:28,039 --> 01:32:30,760
the hell are you doing? And I just dropped everything,

1641
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,079
all my bags and just started running head first towards them,

1642
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:36,399
because my dog was all I had left in this

1643
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,159
world after my grandma died, and I would have killed

1644
01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:40,760
him if I would have got my hands on him,

1645
01:32:41,039 --> 01:32:43,560
so I had no fear at that point. I charged

1646
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,159
him head on and as I was running toward him,

1647
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,880
they stopped in this strange, weird way and turned and

1648
01:32:51,039 --> 01:32:55,600
looked at me. And when they blinked, I saw something

1649
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,159
in their eyes. This is really hard to put into

1650
01:32:59,239 --> 01:33:04,159
words or it except to say that it wasn't them,

1651
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,119
it wasn't that person. It was like something had taken

1652
01:33:08,199 --> 01:33:11,039
over that person in that moment that they were trying

1653
01:33:11,079 --> 01:33:13,640
to break into my car. And when I hit the

1654
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,279
alarm and started screaming, they stopped and slowly turned and

1655
01:33:17,359 --> 01:33:20,520
looked at me, and I saw when they blinked and

1656
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:24,399
opened their eyes that they were back to the normal

1657
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,920
person that they were, and they sort of looked around

1658
01:33:28,159 --> 01:33:32,199
and just bolted. They just took off running, And so

1659
01:33:32,359 --> 01:33:34,680
I was pretty shaken at that point because I thought,

1660
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,279
what if they would have gotten a hold of my dog,

1661
01:33:36,399 --> 01:33:38,039
What if they would have gotten him out of the car.

1662
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:39,920
I mean, I could have cared less about the money

1663
01:33:40,039 --> 01:33:41,720
or the gun or any of my stuff. All I

1664
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,560
cared about was what if they hurt my dog, because

1665
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,720
my dog would have tried to attack them had they

1666
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,279
gotten the window or the door open and I'm sure

1667
01:33:49,359 --> 01:33:51,560
they would have hurt and or killed him. And so

1668
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,800
at this point, I'm just freaking out. And my dog's

1669
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,000
still really sick, and he had just done this trying

1670
01:33:58,039 --> 01:34:00,600
to fend these two men off, and I could see

1671
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,159
like he was on his last leg. Whatever all this

1672
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,760
was was killing my dog, and it wasn't doing real

1673
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,119
well with me either, and so a lot of other

1674
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:13,319
bad things had happened. We went back to the hotel

1675
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:17,319
that night, and as I was in the hotel, suddenly

1676
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,880
the hair on the back of my dog just stood

1677
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,560
straight up, and he was like baring his teeth, and

1678
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,359
saliva was dripping from his mouth, and he was looking

1679
01:34:26,399 --> 01:34:29,199
at the window, and all of a sudden in the window.

1680
01:34:29,199 --> 01:34:32,399
I had the curtains closed, so I couldn't see the window,

1681
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,680
but I all of a sudden saw a hand and

1682
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,720
an arm come down from the window. Somebody had opened

1683
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,960
the window and was trying to put their hand into

1684
01:34:43,279 --> 01:34:45,880
I guess we had like this bar. There were these

1685
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,479
bars that came down and kept the window from opening

1686
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,279
all the way. It would only open part of the

1687
01:34:50,319 --> 01:34:53,520
way for safety reasons. The hotel had them. And this

1688
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,720
arm was reaching over trying to lift up that bar

1689
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,560
so that it could push the window the rest of

1690
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,000
the way open, and my dog was sparking and growling

1691
01:35:03,119 --> 01:35:06,239
like crazy. And I was so mad at that point,

1692
01:35:06,399 --> 01:35:08,720
and just so sick and tired of fending off all

1693
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,399
this darkness and all these bad things that were happening.

1694
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,560
And I just started screaming and cussing, and I was like,

1695
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,680
come on in here, motherfucker, I want you to meet

1696
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,800
my friend Susie's shotgun. And I grabbed my gun and

1697
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,800
I loaded it, and by the time I ripped open

1698
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,000
the curtains, they were gone. And so my dog and

1699
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:28,960
I just sat there like shaking like a leaf. I mean,

1700
01:35:29,039 --> 01:35:31,600
we were on our last leg. We had been so sick.

1701
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,720
We had an eight or drinking over a week, and

1702
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,119
we were just vomiting, like dry heaving, even with nothing

1703
01:35:38,279 --> 01:35:40,920
in our bodies, we still just kept dry heaving. And

1704
01:35:41,039 --> 01:35:45,439
then all these attacks, and there was instances of missing time,

1705
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,880
and I knew that bad things had happened there that

1706
01:35:49,039 --> 01:35:51,800
I had repressed that I couldn't I didn't want to know.

1707
01:35:52,079 --> 01:35:55,520
I couldn't let myself remember I'm still alive, and that's

1708
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,000
all that matters. I can keep going. I can't turn

1709
01:35:58,079 --> 01:36:00,479
and look back at those things, or I will die.

1710
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,479
I will come undone. So all of this bad stuff

1711
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:09,039
had happened, and I realized, Okay, whatever's happened here, I

1712
01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:11,119
have to get out of here. My dog and I

1713
01:36:11,239 --> 01:36:14,359
are dying, and I'm just I'm done. I'm going to

1714
01:36:14,399 --> 01:36:16,880
turn around and just high tail it home and try

1715
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,279
to get out of here. So we get in the car. Well,

1716
01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:23,680
we sat there shaking like a leaf until daylight came.

1717
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:27,720
And after the daylight came, I packed us up and

1718
01:36:28,399 --> 01:36:31,640
I still had my gun loaded, the safety was off,

1719
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,279
and as we came out of that hotel room, I

1720
01:36:34,359 --> 01:36:38,039
had my guns pointed. If anybody was outside my hotel room,

1721
01:36:38,279 --> 01:36:41,319
if anybody was next to my car, I was going

1722
01:36:41,399 --> 01:36:43,800
to shoot and kill them. That's how sped up I was.

1723
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:45,520
I was going to get in the car and I

1724
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:48,000
was going to go home, and anybody who tried to

1725
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,840
stop me, that was the last thing they would do

1726
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,439
in this reality. So we get in the car and

1727
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,199
we're headed home. At some point we're still in Alaska.

1728
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:01,399
My dog began to drink a little water, and I

1729
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:02,640
thought that was encouraging.

1730
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:03,199
Speaker 1: It was.

1731
01:37:03,399 --> 01:37:07,079
Speaker 4: It was strange because the closer we had gotten to Alaska.

1732
01:37:07,239 --> 01:37:10,680
On the way out there, the worst this attack or

1733
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,439
this sickness was. But now now that I had chosen

1734
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,760
to leave, it was like the longer we were on

1735
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,640
the road and the further we were getting away from

1736
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,159
that mountain in Alaska that I had been trying to

1737
01:37:23,239 --> 01:37:26,640
get to, I could feel some of that lifting, like

1738
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,039
we were starting to feel a little bit better, and

1739
01:37:29,399 --> 01:37:32,800
my dog started drinking. At one point he had acted

1740
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,880
like he needed to go to the bathroom, which was

1741
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,279
a good sign because he hadn't gone to the bathroom

1742
01:37:37,319 --> 01:37:40,399
and I don't know, seven to ten days something like that,

1743
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,600
and I knew he was going to die soon, like

1744
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,199
he couldn't keep this up very much longer. And so,

1745
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,760
and that was also one of the reasons I chose

1746
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,399
to just turn and go home. I had this guilt that,

1747
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,000
you know, I'm literally pushing this dog to his death

1748
01:37:53,079 --> 01:37:55,880
and this is killing me, and I just I'm done.

1749
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,199
I can't do this anymore. I'm going to try and

1750
01:37:58,239 --> 01:38:02,079
make it home. And so at one point, while still

1751
01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:04,279
in Alaska, the dog had acted like he needed to

1752
01:38:04,319 --> 01:38:06,560
go to the bathroom. He was whining like he needed

1753
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,439
to stop, and I needed to stretch my legs. Anyway,

1754
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,520
we had been in the car for days, and so

1755
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,000
I pulled off on the side of the highway there,

1756
01:38:14,079 --> 01:38:16,840
and the Alaskan Highway is based at the time was

1757
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,920
basically just a gravel road and there was hardly any

1758
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,800
traffic on it. So we pull off on the side

1759
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,279
of the road, and I told myself, we're not going

1760
01:38:26,359 --> 01:38:28,479
to go into the woods. We were going to stay

1761
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,800
where I can see the car in my vision. And

1762
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:34,119
I've got my gun on my shoulder, loaded and ready

1763
01:38:34,159 --> 01:38:36,840
to go. And so I've got my car keys in

1764
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,479
one hand, I've got my dog on his leash and

1765
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,720
my other hand, and I've got the gun slung around

1766
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,960
my shoulder, and we're just planning on walking back and

1767
01:38:45,079 --> 01:38:47,359
forth right there next to our car, and let the

1768
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,800
dog go to the bathroom. And you know, dogs liked

1769
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,319
to go to the edges of the woods and kind

1770
01:38:52,359 --> 01:38:55,159
of sniff around or whatever. So they had like, I

1771
01:38:55,199 --> 01:38:57,800
don't know, maybe five ten feet on each side of

1772
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,960
the road cleared and cut in the and the wilderness

1773
01:39:01,039 --> 01:39:03,680
started at that point. So I had walked up to

1774
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,479
the edge of the woods and let my dog walk along,

1775
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,399
looking for a good place to go to the bathroom

1776
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,680
and sniff around, and I don't know what happened. The

1777
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,680
next thing I know, we are deep in the woods.

1778
01:39:15,319 --> 01:39:18,479
I have no memory of walking into the woods. I

1779
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,680
had specifically told myself not to get out of sight

1780
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:23,600
of our car, that this was a quick go to

1781
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,680
the bathroom, And all of a sudden, it's like I

1782
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,039
was missing time, And all of a sudden, we're deep

1783
01:39:30,079 --> 01:39:33,920
in these woods, and I'm thinking, what just happened? How

1784
01:39:34,079 --> 01:39:37,680
did we get here? How far in are we? Did

1785
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,600
we walk in a straight line? I mean, hopefully or else?

1786
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:42,600
Are we going to get locked out here? Or are

1787
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:44,319
we even going to make it back to the car.

1788
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,680
And all of a sudden, my dog did the same

1789
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,640
thing that he had done in the hotel room. He

1790
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,039
stopped in his track, All of the hair on his

1791
01:39:52,199 --> 01:39:56,119
back stood up, he bared his teeth, and saliva was

1792
01:39:56,279 --> 01:39:58,720
just dripping. He was staring at this big tree that

1793
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,880
was probably, I don't know, fifteen twenty feet away from us,

1794
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:07,199
maybe maybe thirty feet away from us, and I thought, Okay,

1795
01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:11,000
there's a bear or a bobcat something around that tree

1796
01:40:11,079 --> 01:40:12,920
is about to come out, And so I threw my

1797
01:40:13,039 --> 01:40:15,159
dog's leash on the ground, and I stepped on it

1798
01:40:15,239 --> 01:40:18,159
with my foot and then I had free hands to

1799
01:40:18,239 --> 01:40:20,560
get my gun. And I got my gun, and I

1800
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,319
took the safety off, and I was just pointing it

1801
01:40:23,399 --> 01:40:26,279
at that tree, and I was scanning my surroundings. I

1802
01:40:26,399 --> 01:40:29,600
was looking for any kind of movement, anything, and I'm

1803
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,359
still expecting that this is a bear or a bobcat

1804
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,039
or some wild animal that's about to come out from

1805
01:40:35,079 --> 01:40:39,439
behind the trees. And all of a sudden, this scraggly

1806
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,920
looking wild man steps out from behind the tree, and

1807
01:40:44,039 --> 01:40:48,159
he has this evil smile on his face, and as

1808
01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:51,439
I look into his eyes, I can almost see flames

1809
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:55,560
dancing in his eyes. I don't even know how to

1810
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:59,000
explain that, except I knew that I was dealing with

1811
01:40:59,319 --> 01:41:04,039
a more concentrated form of evil, of darkness that I

1812
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:09,039
had ever experienced. This was a million times more concentrated

1813
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,479
than this darkness that had been pursuing me recently. And

1814
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:17,079
I knew that it was excited that it had lured

1815
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:21,399
me right where it wanted me. And so I had

1816
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,840
my gun pointed at him, and I said to him, buddy,

1817
01:41:25,359 --> 01:41:27,880
I don't want any trouble here, but you take one

1818
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,840
more step in my direction. And that's exactly what we're

1819
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,800
going to have. And it was like he thought it

1820
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,640
over for just a second, still with that shitty and

1821
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,520
grin on his face, and then he lunged at me,

1822
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:44,600
and I didn't hesitate for a second. I pulled the trigger.

1823
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,119
And I'm not trying to toot my own horn here,

1824
01:41:48,279 --> 01:41:51,119
but I had become a really good shot practicing with

1825
01:41:51,239 --> 01:41:54,079
my uncle for almost a year. I mean I had

1826
01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:56,960
hit bullseyes from much further away than what I was

1827
01:41:57,079 --> 01:42:01,359
from this man, So I am absolutely positive that I

1828
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:05,399
was correctly aimed at his chest. And I was using

1829
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,800
big game cartridges. These were the most powerful shells that

1830
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,479
you could get for a shotgun, and they would spread

1831
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:16,520
out when when you shot, the pellets would spread out

1832
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,680
and it would cover a huge area. So when I

1833
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,680
pulled that trigger, there was absolutely no way that I

1834
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,960
didn't hit him. At least some of those pellets would

1835
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,800
have hit him. I'm one hundred percent positive of it.

1836
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,399
But yet the pellets seemed to go right through him.

1837
01:42:34,079 --> 01:42:37,479
He wasn't even faith he was still coming towards me.

1838
01:42:38,319 --> 01:42:41,800
And at that point I realized, either this isn't human,

1839
01:42:42,079 --> 01:42:44,880
or this thing is more than human, and this is

1840
01:42:45,039 --> 01:42:48,239
evil that's coming for me. And I just slung my

1841
01:42:48,399 --> 01:42:51,520
gun around my neck, scooped up my dogs, leashed in

1842
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:55,119
one motion, and we turned and just took off running.

1843
01:42:55,319 --> 01:42:58,520
And I mean, usually this husky could I mean drag

1844
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:02,439
me outrun me by ten times, but not this time.

1845
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,000
I mean, I was keeping my own with him. We

1846
01:43:05,159 --> 01:43:08,920
were running so fast through those woods that I almost

1847
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,239
felt like my feet weren't touching the ground. And we

1848
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,039
flew out of those woods. We come out of the

1849
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:18,880
wilderness back up onto the street and we're I mean

1850
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,079
probably like a quarter mile down the road from my car,

1851
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:24,720
but I can see my car down the street, and

1852
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:27,760
so we turn and we're running to the car. And

1853
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,039
my keys were in my pocket at that point, and

1854
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:32,680
I was thinking to myself, the car's lock. I have

1855
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:34,880
to get my keys out of my pocket and get

1856
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,479
the car unlock so that we can just dive into

1857
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,319
the car in one motion. I can't stop and fumble around.

1858
01:43:40,359 --> 01:43:43,000
And I could feel this being right behind me. He

1859
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:45,760
was gaining ground on me. He was catching up to me,

1860
01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:49,479
and I went to turn to look and see how

1861
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,760
close he was to me, and this voice in my head,

1862
01:43:54,119 --> 01:43:59,000
a female voice, a telepathic message said, no, don't turn

1863
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:03,399
and look, or you lose put everything you've got into

1864
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,399
getting out of this situation. You can see how you

1865
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:10,079
did when it's over. I didn't know what to make

1866
01:44:10,159 --> 01:44:12,319
of it. All I knew was I didn't feel the

1867
01:44:12,399 --> 01:44:15,479
darkness from this voice. I felt like it was a

1868
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,439
line being thrown to me from the light, from the good,

1869
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,800
and I listened to it. I didn't turn and look

1870
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,760
to see how close he was. I never slowed my pace.

1871
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,479
I just kept going and I was as I was running,

1872
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,640
I was trying to fumble for my keys, and I

1873
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,680
finally did get them out of my pocket, like feet

1874
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,880
before we got to the car, unlocked the car, We

1875
01:44:35,239 --> 01:44:38,199
dove into the car, I started it up and just

1876
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,920
peeled out of there. I mean, I was shaking so bad.

1877
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,319
I hadn't even taken the gun off of my shoulder

1878
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,560
and so it was behind my back and I couldn't

1879
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,359
like lean back in the chair, and I was shaking

1880
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,119
so bad. I was almost like going numb, and I

1881
01:44:52,199 --> 01:44:53,960
thought I was going to pass out, but there was

1882
01:44:54,039 --> 01:44:56,560
no way I could stop. I had to just keep

1883
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,359
going and get as far away as I could. So

1884
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,840
it was probably about two or three hours before I

1885
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,760
could even bring myself to slow down enough to take

1886
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,159
the gun off of my shoulder. I didn't stop, but

1887
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:10,039
I slowed down enough that I could let go of

1888
01:45:10,079 --> 01:45:12,000
the steering wheel and get the gun off my shoulder

1889
01:45:12,079 --> 01:45:16,159
and kind of like catch my breath. And I'm still shaking,

1890
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,840
and I'm thinking, you know, I thought I was maybe

1891
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,560
going to have a chance of getting out of Hearing

1892
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,520
and getting back home, because I just don't want to

1893
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,039
do this anymore. And then I started realizing, I'm probably

1894
01:45:27,119 --> 01:45:29,000
still not going to make it back home, and this

1895
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:32,359
probably isn't the last of this darkness that I'm going

1896
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:36,800
to encounter. So another couple of days went by, we

1897
01:45:37,199 --> 01:45:40,119
crossed over into the Yukon Territory, and we were on

1898
01:45:40,279 --> 01:45:43,119
our way down through Canada back to the lower forty

1899
01:45:43,159 --> 01:45:46,439
eight of the state, and I was probably going about

1900
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,840
thirty five forty miles an hour. It had been a

1901
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:51,840
couple of days since I'd seen another car. And we

1902
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,760
come up over this hill and as I come over

1903
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,920
the hill down I can see down below at the

1904
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:02,439
bottom of the hill a a bigfoot, a sassquatch is

1905
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:06,279
walking from the side of the road up onto the road,

1906
01:46:07,039 --> 01:46:10,159
and I know, I have this thinking feeling in my chest.

1907
01:46:10,399 --> 01:46:13,359
This is not a chance encounter, this is not an accident.

1908
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,840
This thing is here for me, and I know that

1909
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:19,359
it's going to stop me from making it out of

1910
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,920
these woods, and that that's why it's here. And I

1911
01:46:23,079 --> 01:46:26,800
also knew and could see that this being had planned

1912
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:30,600
it perfectly that at the exact moment that my car

1913
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,560
would be right where it was, it would be standing

1914
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,279
in the middle of the road, not in my lane

1915
01:46:36,319 --> 01:46:38,720
in front of my car, but like on the center

1916
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,239
line if there had been a center line. There wasn't

1917
01:46:41,319 --> 01:46:44,000
it was just a gravel highway. But if there had

1918
01:46:44,079 --> 01:46:47,000
been a center line, this thing had timed it to

1919
01:46:47,079 --> 01:46:50,399
where it was walking just casually, slowly, like it didn't

1920
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,800
have a care in the world. But it had timed

1921
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:54,800
it so that it would be standing in the center

1922
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,319
of the road right at the moment that my car

1923
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:01,039
intersected it. I wasn't about to stop or slow down.

1924
01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:03,640
But I also knew that this thing, I mean, this

1925
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:06,680
thing was massive. It was like eight to ten foot tall.

1926
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:11,159
It was so big and muscular, and I could see

1927
01:47:11,239 --> 01:47:14,199
the muscles rippling under the skin. This was no man

1928
01:47:14,319 --> 01:47:16,920
in a monkey suit, and I knew that all this

1929
01:47:17,039 --> 01:47:18,800
thing would have to do would be to take its

1930
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,399
arm and hit my car, and it would just send

1931
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:24,479
my car rolling, you know, probably hundreds of feet or something.

1932
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,720
I was no physical match for this thing, so I

1933
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,079
had no choice. I couldn't stop the car. I wasn't

1934
01:47:30,119 --> 01:47:31,880
going to stop and turn around and head back to

1935
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,159
that darkness I had just fled from. So I just thought,

1936
01:47:36,039 --> 01:47:37,960
just keep going. That's all I can do, is just

1937
01:47:38,119 --> 01:47:41,239
keep going and see what happens. And so I'm bracing

1938
01:47:41,359 --> 01:47:45,039
myself for this thing to attack my car, and I'm

1939
01:47:45,079 --> 01:47:48,000
worried that my dog is going to lunge across me

1940
01:47:48,279 --> 01:47:50,880
to the driver's side window where this thing is about

1941
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,760
to be standing right next to my driver's side window.

1942
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,000
And I look over and my dog is just in

1943
01:47:57,159 --> 01:48:01,319
this trance like there's something very odd. Like he wasn't moving.

1944
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,960
He was just in this trance. I've never seen my

1945
01:48:04,079 --> 01:48:08,199
dog like this before. He was just looking straightforward. I

1946
01:48:08,279 --> 01:48:10,760
almost didn't even see him breathing. He was just in

1947
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:15,159
a trance. And at the very moment that this being

1948
01:48:15,359 --> 01:48:18,520
is standing like six inches from my driver's side window,

1949
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,399
which was rolled up because I was scared to death,

1950
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:24,760
something pushed the pause button. And I know that sounds crazy,

1951
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,119
and I tried to talk myself out of it so

1952
01:48:27,279 --> 01:48:30,319
many times, like that can't be real. That didn't happen.

1953
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:36,039
Your mind imagined that. But it did happen. Everything stopped,

1954
01:48:36,319 --> 01:48:39,279
like someone had just pushed the pause button. My car

1955
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,439
stopped in mid air. None of the leaves were rustling

1956
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,079
in the wind. There was time had stopped. I could

1957
01:48:47,159 --> 01:48:50,199
feel that time had stopped, and I was just hanging

1958
01:48:50,279 --> 01:48:53,439
in limbo, almost like the world had just turned into

1959
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,800
this painting, this still painting. And I'm sitting there in

1960
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,960
my car and this bigfoot six inches from my driver's

1961
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,520
side window, and I turned to look at it, and

1962
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:08,800
as I made eye contact with it, I received this

1963
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:15,479
telepathic message. It was such an intense, overwhelming, complex message

1964
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:19,079
that words really aren't going to do it justice. I

1965
01:49:19,199 --> 01:49:22,399
really can't even describe it in words, except to say

1966
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:26,439
that this being was telling me that it was a

1967
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:30,039
programmed being who was sent here to stop us from

1968
01:49:30,119 --> 01:49:33,760
making it out of these woods alive, but that it

1969
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,319
was hurting in here just like I was, and that

1970
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:39,880
it had decided that it was not going to follow

1971
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,000
its objective. That not only was it not going to

1972
01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:46,359
kill us. It was going to help me. It told

1973
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,560
me that its boss would be coming for me, and

1974
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,920
that I shouldn't stop, and I shouldn't sleep, that I

1975
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:57,359
should just go all the way, and that it was

1976
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:02,199
going to help me and sacrifice itself in the hopes

1977
01:50:02,279 --> 01:50:06,399
that I could help us all. And in that moment,

1978
01:50:07,399 --> 01:50:12,880
something unpressed the pause button, and that quickly I sped

1979
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,840
past this being. My vehicle moved past it. My dog

1980
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,560
started moving again, and I'm looking in my driver's side

1981
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:24,600
rear view mirror thinking was I hallucinating? Did this really

1982
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:28,560
just happen? And I can see this creature. It was black,

1983
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:32,159
Its hair was black, and the leaves and the foliage

1984
01:50:32,279 --> 01:50:34,720
was all green, bright green, so there was no way

1985
01:50:35,039 --> 01:50:38,279
it like blended in or anything. I saw this thing

1986
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,279
walk the rest of the way across the road, and

1987
01:50:41,399 --> 01:50:45,000
as it reached the edge of the road. This sounds crazy,

1988
01:50:45,079 --> 01:50:49,600
but I swear to you, it pixeled out. It pixeled.

1989
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:52,760
I saw it break up into a bunch of pixels

1990
01:50:53,359 --> 01:50:56,520
and it just disappeared. I saw it disappear in my

1991
01:50:57,079 --> 01:51:02,319
side rear view mirror, and I was completely overwhelmed. I

1992
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,960
was crying. I felt all this love, and all this

1993
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,560
pressure put on me, like what does he mean so

1994
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,279
that I can help us all? I'm just one person

1995
01:51:12,399 --> 01:51:14,399
and I'm so screwed up in a mess, and I

1996
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,439
don't know what any of this is. I can't even

1997
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,920
help myself. How could I possibly help everybody else too?

1998
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,680
I didn't know what to make of it. So we

1999
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,399
did make it back home, not without further incident. Of course,

2000
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:31,439
I always felt that darkness. It was two steps behind

2001
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,119
me and closing fast. It was always there, It was

2002
01:51:34,199 --> 01:51:36,840
always watching, It was waiting for me to mess up,

2003
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:41,279
and I did as I told you. I live in Ohio.

2004
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,359
As we got to Indiana and I got onto the

2005
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:48,279
interstate of seventy four, which is the interstate that the

2006
01:51:48,399 --> 01:51:51,640
exit for my house is on. Now we're still hours

2007
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,479
away from my house on this highway. But just as

2008
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,479
we had gotten onto that highway that was the same

2009
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,760
highway I lived off of, it's like my body let

2010
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,319
out a little sigh of relief. It was almost like

2011
01:52:03,359 --> 01:52:07,520
an involuntary thing, like, uh, we're on the highway that

2012
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,800
my house is off of. We might actually make it home.

2013
01:52:11,239 --> 01:52:13,680
And just as my body let out that little sigh

2014
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,279
of relief, that was all it took, and all of

2015
01:52:16,359 --> 01:52:19,600
this just came crashing down on top of me, like

2016
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:24,479
someone had just crashed into a brick wall, and there

2017
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:27,840
were just bricks flying and hitting me. And some of

2018
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:31,079
these things that I had repressed that had happened in Alaska,

2019
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,119
we're trying to work its way back into my mind.

2020
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:36,800
And I kept shutting it out, saying, no, I can't

2021
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,720
remember that. I don't want to know that that will

2022
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:41,640
be my end. I don't want that, and I wouldn't

2023
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,600
let that enter back into my mind. But then all

2024
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:48,119
these other strange things that had happened were just flooding me,

2025
01:52:48,399 --> 01:52:52,039
and I actually started having a panic attack, and my

2026
01:52:52,359 --> 01:52:55,920
hands and my feet went numb, and I was getting

2027
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,159
to the point I couldn't control the car anymore, and

2028
01:52:58,239 --> 01:53:00,239
I was afraid we were going to crash. Now, we

2029
01:53:00,319 --> 01:53:03,239
were on a busy highway, but there were no cars

2030
01:53:03,279 --> 01:53:07,640
around us, and so I slowly was able using my

2031
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:11,079
hands like my arms on the steering wheel, was able

2032
01:53:11,159 --> 01:53:13,239
to control the car enough to get it off the

2033
01:53:13,359 --> 01:53:15,760
side of the highway, and with my numb foot on

2034
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,600
the brake, was able to bring us to a stop.

2035
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:20,840
But we were still in dry and I was just

2036
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:24,359
sitting there at a stop and I wasn't breathing, and

2037
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,760
the numbness was just moving up my arms and my legs,

2038
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,359
and I thought I was having a heart attack. I

2039
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,680
just had this weight and this pain on my chest,

2040
01:53:34,399 --> 01:53:36,159
and I was like, well, I thought we were going

2041
01:53:36,199 --> 01:53:38,319
to make it home. We almost made it home, but

2042
01:53:39,039 --> 01:53:42,560
this is the end. And all of a sudden, I

2043
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:46,720
see lights coming and I can see in the side

2044
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,600
rear view mirror that it's a semi coming towards me

2045
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,079
in the lane right next to where I'm pulled off

2046
01:53:52,119 --> 01:53:55,119
on the highway, and I thought, I need help, and

2047
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,279
this is the only vehicle I see coming my way.

2048
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:01,600
I have no choice. I'm going to have to do

2049
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:06,039
something to one stop these memories that are trying to

2050
01:54:06,119 --> 01:54:08,479
come back into my head from getting in there. I

2051
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:11,079
need something to shake me out of way from that

2052
01:54:11,159 --> 01:54:14,640
because I can't let that back in and I need

2053
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,239
help medically. I think I'm having a heart attack. So

2054
01:54:17,399 --> 01:54:21,319
right as this semi is nearing me, I used my

2055
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,319
arms and I purposely pulled out in front of it,

2056
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,479
thinking that the semi was going to smash into me,

2057
01:54:28,039 --> 01:54:33,079
and I had a better shot of probably maybe possibly

2058
01:54:33,279 --> 01:54:37,399
surviving that impact, then I did if I let whatever

2059
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,640
that was that was trying to get back into my

2060
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,399
head in So I thought, this will knock it out,

2061
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,640
It'll knock me out, it'll stop that from coming back

2062
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:49,039
into my head. And yeah, there's only a small percentage

2063
01:54:49,079 --> 01:54:51,239
of a chance that I'm going to survive this accident,

2064
01:54:51,319 --> 01:54:53,640
but it's my only shot. I have to do it.

2065
01:54:54,319 --> 01:54:56,399
So I pulled out in front of this semi and

2066
01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:02,199
this semi served so hard. I mean it basically jackknifed

2067
01:55:02,239 --> 01:55:06,239
itself to keep from hitting me. And this guy was furious.

2068
01:55:06,359 --> 01:55:08,479
He rolled down his window and he said, what do

2069
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:11,119
you have a fucking death wish or something? And all

2070
01:55:11,239 --> 01:55:14,640
I could get out was heart attacks, nine to one one, please,

2071
01:55:15,479 --> 01:55:18,680
And at that point the expression on his face changed,

2072
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:21,920
his demeanor changed. He called nine one one and they

2073
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:25,560
were asking him to check my pulse and different things,

2074
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:27,720
and he was asking me to roll down my window

2075
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,000
and unlock the car door so that he could check me.

2076
01:55:30,399 --> 01:55:34,000
And I was still so paranoid and so distrusting and

2077
01:55:34,479 --> 01:55:38,000
knew that darkness was getting me and I wouldn't roll

2078
01:55:38,039 --> 01:55:40,079
down the window and I told him, buddy, I ain't

2079
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:43,439
unlocking the car door or unrolling down the window until

2080
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:47,000
I see sirens, so just back off. And so he's

2081
01:55:47,039 --> 01:55:49,239
telling the nine to one one call. She won't let me.

2082
01:55:49,359 --> 01:55:51,800
She won't let me even she won't even roll down

2083
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,039
the window. So they finally convinced me to roll down

2084
01:55:55,079 --> 01:55:57,560
the window a couple of inches and stick my arm

2085
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,840
out the window so that he could take my pulse

2086
01:56:00,199 --> 01:56:03,800
my wrists, and the ambulance showed up, and they're all

2087
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,000
trying to get me to unlock my car door and

2088
01:56:06,079 --> 01:56:08,800
get out of the car, and something inside of me

2089
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:12,119
is telling me no. I keep having these flashbacks to

2090
01:56:12,239 --> 01:56:15,239
what the Bigfoot had told me. Don't stop, don't sleep,

2091
01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:18,000
just keep going all the way. So my body is

2092
01:56:18,079 --> 01:56:20,920
telling me, no, you have to keep going, but my

2093
01:56:21,159 --> 01:56:23,840
mind is saying, you can't. You're going to get yourself

2094
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:27,399
killed in this condition. You physically can't go on like this.

2095
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,800
So then the police tells me you have no choice here, Hun,

2096
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:33,359
I can't let you take off driving in this condition.

2097
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,720
You have to come out of the car and get

2098
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,039
in the ambulance and let us check you out. And

2099
01:56:38,159 --> 01:56:40,319
so I start telling him there's no way I'm leaving

2100
01:56:40,399 --> 01:56:42,199
my dog on the side of the highway here in

2101
01:56:42,279 --> 01:56:44,479
the dark like this, that's just not going to happen.

2102
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,720
And so he called my parents and asked my parents

2103
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:50,119
told them what had happened, and that an ambulance was

2104
01:56:50,199 --> 01:56:52,119
going to be taking me to a hospital, and that

2105
01:56:52,439 --> 01:56:54,479
they needed to come and pick up my dog. And

2106
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:58,079
the police officer promised me that he would stand there

2107
01:56:58,199 --> 01:57:00,560
with my car until my parents got there to pick

2108
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,520
him up. And so I got in the ambulance and

2109
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:07,680
I was facing my car so my dog could see me.

2110
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,800
On the stretcher in the ambulance, the doors were still open,

2111
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,600
and I could see my dog, and I could see

2112
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:17,199
this worried look on his face, and I knew that

2113
01:57:17,319 --> 01:57:19,680
he was hoping more than anything that I would get

2114
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,840
out of that ambulance and come back to the car,

2115
01:57:22,439 --> 01:57:24,720
that I wasn't going to drive away and leave him there.

2116
01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:29,279
And as they started to close the doors, I saw

2117
01:57:29,359 --> 01:57:32,840
the look on his face, just that crushed look when

2118
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,560
he realized she is driving off and leaving me here.

2119
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:43,560
And I came undone. That look on his face did

2120
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:46,800
more to me than any of that darkness ever did.

2121
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:50,840
I was shaking uncontrollably. I was shaking so bad that

2122
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,000
my teeth were chattering, and the ambulance workers said that

2123
01:57:54,079 --> 01:57:56,479
I was going to break my teeth because I couldn't

2124
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:59,279
calm myself down, and they were going to have to

2125
01:57:59,359 --> 01:58:04,600
tranquilize me for my own safety. So they did, and

2126
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,560
within a couple of minutes, I felt like I was

2127
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,680
just floating on this cloud and I didn't forget any

2128
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:13,239
of it. I knew what was happening. I was still

2129
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,119
completely aware of what I had just done. And I

2130
01:58:16,359 --> 01:58:18,039
had just left my dog on the side of the

2131
01:58:18,119 --> 01:58:21,760
highway in the dark because I had no choice. I

2132
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:25,560
just didn't care so much anymore. It was like comfortably numb.

2133
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,199
And so we get to the hospital and I thought

2134
01:58:29,279 --> 01:58:32,760
only a few minutes had passed, but apparently hours had passed.

2135
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:35,199
And my parents are walking into.

2136
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Speaker 6: The hospital and the first thing out of my mouth

2137
01:58:38,079 --> 01:58:38,960
is where's my dog?

2138
01:58:39,079 --> 01:58:43,319
Speaker 4: Where's Arrows? And my mom's saying, calm down, Arrows is fine.

2139
01:58:43,399 --> 01:58:46,079
He's out in the car waiting for you. Let's get

2140
01:58:46,119 --> 01:58:47,800
you checked out of here and get you home. So

2141
01:58:48,439 --> 01:58:51,479
they got me checked out of the hospital and put

2142
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,399
me in the car. My mom was going to drive

2143
01:58:53,479 --> 01:58:56,039
my car with me and Arrows in it, and my

2144
01:58:56,159 --> 01:58:58,520
dad was going to drive their car back and follow us.

2145
01:58:59,159 --> 01:59:01,560
And my dog was with me in the back seat

2146
01:59:02,159 --> 01:59:04,560
and my mom was driving. I was in the passenger seat.

2147
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,640
And as we took off driving, my dog laid its

2148
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:10,520
head on my mom's shoulder and just laid out, just

2149
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:13,800
gave out this sigh. And it's like I could feel

2150
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:17,960
him saying, or thinking or feeling, thank God you're here,

2151
01:59:18,159 --> 01:59:21,640
because we weren't going to make it. And my parents

2152
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,600
drove us back home, and I did get to see

2153
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,800
my home again, and my life did go on. Obviously,

2154
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:32,079
I'm still here. Other things had happened after that. It

2155
01:59:32,239 --> 01:59:34,560
wasn't like that was the end and we were safe.

2156
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 3: Now.

2157
01:59:35,119 --> 01:59:38,159
Speaker 4: I knew that we weren't safe, but I did feel like,

2158
01:59:38,319 --> 01:59:40,720
at least we're on home turf now, at least I've

2159
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:44,000
got the home court advantage. I've got resources, I've got

2160
01:59:44,079 --> 01:59:46,960
my family. You know, I know this area, I know

2161
01:59:47,159 --> 01:59:49,640
these woods around here. Should I ever find myself in

2162
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,720
a similar situation a lot better than you know, being

2163
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,199
thousands of miles away on my own up in Alaska.

2164
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:59,439
So you know, some other things have happened since then,

2165
02:00:00,079 --> 02:00:00,880
quite a few things.

2166
02:00:01,039 --> 02:00:12,319
Speaker 7: Actually, Do you have an interest in the paranormal then

2167
02:00:12,399 --> 02:00:16,039
you'll love the unexnetwork dot com. The AX is your

2168
02:00:16,119 --> 02:00:20,920
streaming audio and video for everything supernatural, strange and mysterious

2169
02:00:21,279 --> 02:00:25,479
like UFOs, Bigfoot, Ghost and so much more from host

2170
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like Clyde Lewis, Whitley Streeber, Mikah Hanks, and Christina Gomez.

2171
02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:33,760
Visit the unexnetwork dot com show page for a complete

2172
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:37,119
list of all the paranormal programs you'll find on the AX.

2173
02:00:37,439 --> 02:00:39,800
Be sure to follow us on Twitter for updates at

2174
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:44,680
ku NXDB, follow our Facebook group ONEX network, Fine the

2175
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:48,880
podcast on her Spotify, iHeart Audible and Apple podcast.

2176
02:00:49,319 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 2: It's Time, It's ew, It's the.

2177
02:00:52,520 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 4: X x X. Then fast forward to twenty and nineteen

2178
02:01:04,159 --> 02:01:08,640
when the COVID lockdowns started. It was a huge shift, Like,

2179
02:01:09,159 --> 02:01:11,920
you know, you're so caught up in your daily routines

2180
02:01:12,279 --> 02:01:13,960
and you got to get to work and take care

2181
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,039
of the kid and get her to school, and you

2182
02:01:16,119 --> 02:01:19,159
don't really have as much time to sit and reflect

2183
02:01:19,279 --> 02:01:22,560
on things and focus on things. It's like I had

2184
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:24,680
kind of put all of that out of my head

2185
02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:26,680
and I'm not doing that anymore. I don't want to

2186
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:28,680
be associated with any of that. I just want to

2187
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,199
live a normal life and watch my kid grow up

2188
02:01:31,319 --> 02:01:34,520
and just be done. So. Then twenty nineteen and the

2189
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,880
COVID lockdowns happened, and once there was no more school,

2190
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:39,960
there was no more work. We were just stuck in

2191
02:01:40,039 --> 02:01:43,560
this house all the time, I had a spiritual awakening.

2192
02:01:44,119 --> 02:01:49,279
And during that spiritual awakening, it was it was overwhelming.

2193
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:54,000
It was like I was having like a dozen different

2194
02:01:54,119 --> 02:01:57,880
TV sets being thrown at me. But these weren't just

2195
02:01:58,399 --> 02:02:01,640
images on a TV. This was everything. This was the

2196
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:06,359
whole experience. This was the emotion, the understanding, the seeing

2197
02:02:06,439 --> 02:02:09,399
it from a higher perspective, each one of those events,

2198
02:02:09,479 --> 02:02:12,359
and it was all these events of high strangeness that

2199
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:15,840
I'd experienced all my life, but I was seeing them

2200
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:20,720
with like a different level of consciousness. Now I was

2201
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:23,920
seeing it from outside of like looking down at it,

2202
02:02:24,079 --> 02:02:26,199
Like I could see why it happened, and I could

2203
02:02:26,239 --> 02:02:29,199
see the whole experience, not just the little flashbacks that

2204
02:02:29,279 --> 02:02:31,199
had been going off in my head, my whole life,

2205
02:02:31,439 --> 02:02:35,520
and I had a completely different understanding as to what

2206
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:38,520
all this was and why all this was happening to me,

2207
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:43,199
and that, obviously I came to realize. I said that

2208
02:02:43,279 --> 02:02:45,640
I had thought that I was being punished. When I

2209
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:49,000
was told that I had to walk this dark path alone,

2210
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:52,359
I thought that I was being punished and that the

2211
02:02:52,479 --> 02:02:55,520
light had cut me free and turned me over to darkness.

2212
02:02:56,479 --> 02:02:59,560
And I came to realize after that awakening that I

2213
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:02,960
wasn't being punished, that it was a great honor that

2214
02:03:03,119 --> 02:03:05,560
they felt that I was strong enough to make it

2215
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:10,319
through that, and I did. They were right, of course,

2216
02:03:10,399 --> 02:03:13,720
it took a lot of help from players on both sides,

2217
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:15,880
the dark and the light. I never would have made

2218
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:17,840
it on my own. I should have been dead a

2219
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:22,199
million times over by now, but something always stepped in

2220
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:25,760
and sacrifice of themselves or gave me a clue or

2221
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:29,279
a hint or helped me to make it through to

2222
02:03:29,439 --> 02:03:33,600
keep going. And then suddenly what that bigfoot had told

2223
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:37,119
me that it's going to help me because we're all

2224
02:03:37,279 --> 02:03:40,479
suffering in here in the hopes that I could help

2225
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:44,159
us all. And suddenly I knew what that meant and

2226
02:03:44,319 --> 02:03:46,560
what I was supposed to do to help us all.

2227
02:03:47,479 --> 02:03:48,960
And what I was supposed to do.

2228
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:53,159
Speaker 6: Was share my experiences and tell the world everything that

2229
02:03:53,279 --> 02:03:57,279
I've been through and what I learned from it, and

2230
02:03:57,399 --> 02:04:01,239
what it all meant, and that I would help awaken humanity,

2231
02:04:02,039 --> 02:04:05,880
help usher in the Great Awakening, which would give humanity

2232
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:09,279
a greater understanding of what this reality is, and that

2233
02:04:09,439 --> 02:04:12,600
we would be granted access to some of these higher

2234
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:17,159
frequency or higher realm aspects of existence, that we were

2235
02:04:17,239 --> 02:04:21,119
being granted that opportunity, that this was all a huge texts,

2236
02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:24,359
and that I had been put through all of these

2237
02:04:24,439 --> 02:04:27,880
things and guided through them to make it through them

2238
02:04:28,039 --> 02:04:30,439
so that I could share them with everyone, to help

2239
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:32,199
everyone understand.

2240
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:37,079
Speaker 4: What this all was essentially a simulation, And so I

2241
02:04:37,239 --> 02:04:41,279
wrote my pdf. I had so free public pdf. I

2242
02:04:41,439 --> 02:04:45,079
posted it free immediately after writing it. It was almost

2243
02:04:45,159 --> 02:04:47,680
like a stream of consciousness. All of this was just

2244
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:50,600
coming out of my head so fast. I was just typing.

2245
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:53,319
I never went back and edited it. I didn't fix

2246
02:04:53,359 --> 02:04:56,239
any spelling errors. I didn't even read it back. As

2247
02:04:56,319 --> 02:04:59,279
soon as I typed the last word, I took it

2248
02:04:59,399 --> 02:05:01,680
down to the CA store and I had some hard

2249
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:05,880
copies printed out, and then I immediately posted it as

2250
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:10,520
a free public PDF. And there's a lot of experiences

2251
02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:13,439
in there that I didn't get into here, because, as

2252
02:05:13,479 --> 02:05:17,319
I said, I am a lifelong high level experiencer and

2253
02:05:18,039 --> 02:05:20,880
so many things have happened to me. I couldn't possibly

2254
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,960
sit here and run down every single thing, and it

2255
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:27,760
would take forever. But for those that are interested in

2256
02:05:28,359 --> 02:05:31,359
hearing some of my other experiences and some of this

2257
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:34,479
and a lot more detail, you can find that pdf

2258
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:39,359
at pdfposts dot io, and if you go to that website,

2259
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:42,119
you can click on the search bar and type in

2260
02:05:42,479 --> 02:05:47,399
the gray area that's gray gr ey and it's the

2261
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:51,680
third or fourth document down. My name's on there, and

2262
02:05:52,039 --> 02:05:54,960
look for the Yin and yang sign on the cover.

2263
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:58,640
So that is my story, or at least the highlights

2264
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:03,800
of my story, and I hope everyone gained something from it.

2265
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:07,279
I came to realize that after seeing it from this

2266
02:06:07,479 --> 02:06:12,520
different perspective, as traumatizing and horrifying as most of it was,

2267
02:06:13,239 --> 02:06:15,680
knowing now what it was and why it was, and

2268
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:19,000
how much of an honor it was, I would absolutely

2269
02:06:19,159 --> 02:06:22,279
do it again. And if the things that I went

2270
02:06:22,439 --> 02:06:27,079
through helped fill in even one blank for one person,

2271
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:31,279
then it was worth it. So I would encourage everyone

2272
02:06:31,479 --> 02:06:35,079
to go to pdfposts dot io and type in the

2273
02:06:35,159 --> 02:06:38,239
gray area in the search bar and read the pdf,

2274
02:06:38,439 --> 02:06:42,800
and hopefully it would help enlighten you as to what

2275
02:06:43,039 --> 02:06:45,479
some of this is and why some of this is

2276
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:48,760
so thank you for having me and for listening to

2277
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:50,760
me ramble for a couple of hours.

2278
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:51,039
Speaker 1: Now.

2279
02:06:52,079 --> 02:06:59,439
Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, it has been very, very bizarre my entire life.

2280
02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:01,800
Like I said, said from the time I was two

2281
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:04,479
or three years old, the stuff started, and it has

2282
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:08,560
been life long and it's just been one wild ride,

2283
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:12,800
that's for sure. And I'm just extremely thankful to have

2284
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,319
made it through it, to be here, to be able

2285
02:07:15,399 --> 02:07:19,439
to discuss it, and to help others that are going

2286
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:22,840
through these similar things, that are questioning their sanity or

2287
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:25,920
not understanding why this is happening to them and what

2288
02:07:26,119 --> 02:07:28,600
all of this is. So, like I said, if I

2289
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:31,960
can fill in even one blank for someone, then it

2290
02:07:32,119 --> 02:07:32,720
was all worth it.

2291
02:07:33,119 --> 02:07:35,279
Speaker 1: Oh, made the link available in the description of this

2292
02:07:35,399 --> 02:07:38,439
episode and on the website definitely were for read, especially

2293
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:40,159
all those looking for answers.

2294
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, it's like I said, the spelling mistakes

2295
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:47,359
are in there, and I didn't edit it or even

2296
02:07:47,479 --> 02:07:51,319
reread it. After going back and rereading it since posting it,

2297
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:54,159
there were areas I wished I had to find a

2298
02:07:54,199 --> 02:07:56,920
little better. There were areas that I realized might be

2299
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,640
a little bit confusing and that I should have maybe

2300
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:02,520
word it's something a different way. But at the time

2301
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:06,039
I felt like I wanted it exactly the way that

2302
02:08:06,159 --> 02:08:08,920
it came out of my head, because sometimes you can

2303
02:08:09,039 --> 02:08:13,279
gain some interesting information from those Freudian slips, if you

2304
02:08:13,359 --> 02:08:16,960
want to call it that, or even from the grammar mistake.

2305
02:08:17,199 --> 02:08:21,319
So I didn't I felt very strongly that I didn't

2306
02:08:21,399 --> 02:08:24,800
want to change a single word, a single spelling mistake.

2307
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,239
I was like in under the influence of this energy,

2308
02:08:28,479 --> 02:08:31,359
like this almost like a conscious streaming, like this was

2309
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:33,399
just pouring out of me. And I wrote it in

2310
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:36,560
just a few marathon typing sessions, one of which was

2311
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:40,960
literally an overnight marathon. I was just typing faster than

2312
02:08:41,039 --> 02:08:43,439
I could keep up. My mind was just like flying

2313
02:08:43,479 --> 02:08:45,439
a million miles, and I just kept thinking, I got

2314
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:46,680
to get it all out. I got to get it

2315
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:49,079
all out and out of my hands before anybody could

2316
02:08:49,119 --> 02:08:52,000
stop it from going public. And once it's out, it's

2317
02:08:52,039 --> 02:08:54,000
like I can let out this big sigh of relief.

2318
02:08:54,119 --> 02:08:56,279
I did my job. I put my truth out there

2319
02:08:56,399 --> 02:09:00,039
and hopefully it helps some people, and you know, so

2320
02:09:00,119 --> 02:09:02,880
that's the best that I can do. So I was

2321
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:06,399
able to get it posted publicly as a free public document,

2322
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:09,399
and it's gotten close to four thousand hits so far,

2323
02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:13,159
so obviously some people have found it, and I've gotten

2324
02:09:13,199 --> 02:09:15,359
a lot of really good feedback on it from people.

2325
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:18,079
So I feel like I have done my job to

2326
02:09:18,159 --> 02:09:20,600
the best that I can, and I continue to try

2327
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:24,319
and do that job of helping others to understand this.

2328
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:27,560
And that's the big reason that I'm here speaking with

2329
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:28,119
you today.

2330
02:09:28,319 --> 02:09:32,159
Speaker 1: How did you have the strength and the energy to

2331
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:33,600
go through all that?

2332
02:09:34,119 --> 02:09:36,479
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't know that I did. I think I

2333
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:39,560
had the anger. I think I was pissed off that

2334
02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:42,239
this was happening to me, that something was putting me

2335
02:09:42,359 --> 02:09:45,399
through all of this, and I turned that anger into

2336
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:48,720
energy to fight it with. And that's what it was.

2337
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:51,439
It was me taking all that anger and turning it

2338
02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:54,439
into the energy I needed to keep going and fight

2339
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:56,960
through this. What else could I do. I couldn't stop

2340
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:58,960
the stuff from happening. I was going to have to

2341
02:09:59,079 --> 02:10:02,079
endure it one way, or so I might as well

2342
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:06,439
get mad and put on my you know, my warrior

2343
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:10,840
suit and lean into it, because I had no choice. Really,

2344
02:10:11,079 --> 02:10:11,359
when you.

2345
02:10:11,439 --> 02:10:15,239
Speaker 1: Travel, it's the traveling which is important, not the destination.

2346
02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:18,600
What do you feel was up that mountain in Alaska?

2347
02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:22,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually wrote something to that effect in the

2348
02:10:22,279 --> 02:10:24,800
last chapter. I won't give you a spoil alert, but

2349
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,239
something to that effect in the last chapter of my

2350
02:10:27,399 --> 02:10:32,520
PDF that I realized, it's not about the destination, it's

2351
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:35,960
about the journey and how you conduct yourself on that journey.

2352
02:10:36,479 --> 02:10:39,560
One of the experiences that I didn't get into here,

2353
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:42,000
which I guess I probably should have, because it leaves

2354
02:10:42,039 --> 02:10:44,600
everybody on a cliffhanger as to why I felt I

2355
02:10:44,720 --> 02:10:46,880
needed to go to Alaska and what it was that

2356
02:10:47,079 --> 02:10:51,000
was there for me. During my awakening, I was shown

2357
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:54,439
a memory that I had no knowledge of. I had

2358
02:10:54,560 --> 02:10:58,039
had no flashbacks of this, I had no knowledge whatsoever

2359
02:10:58,159 --> 02:11:01,439
of this. But I was shown a man of a

2360
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:04,520
hybrid child of mine, and it was the fetus that

2361
02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:07,800
was taken from me that Christmas Eve, my first year

2362
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:12,920
of college. And this hybrid was human and the alien hybrid.

2363
02:11:13,159 --> 02:11:16,439
And this little girl was almost ten years old. And

2364
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:21,560
I saw her hair and I recognized her hair on

2365
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:24,680
a cellular level, and at first my mind said, Oh,

2366
02:11:25,119 --> 02:11:27,560
her hair looks like mine. And then I stopped and

2367
02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:30,800
I was like no, not like mine. It is mine.

2368
02:11:31,479 --> 02:11:34,199
And it hit me at that moment that this was

2369
02:11:34,279 --> 02:11:37,840
my hybrid child. And I was in an underground facility

2370
02:11:38,479 --> 02:11:41,680
and there was a blue being sitting beside me, and

2371
02:11:42,319 --> 02:11:46,520
another blue being was walking across this field with carrying

2372
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:48,840
this hybrid child. I didn't know it was a hybrid

2373
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:50,880
child at the time. I just saw this blue being

2374
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:54,279
walking across the field was carrying something. And then as

2375
02:11:54,399 --> 02:11:56,760
they got up to a few feet away from us,

2376
02:11:56,840 --> 02:11:59,399
that's when I was looking at this child and recognized

2377
02:11:59,439 --> 02:12:02,359
the hair, recognized that this was my child, and all

2378
02:12:02,399 --> 02:12:05,239
of a sudden, it's like like they had put the

2379
02:12:05,319 --> 02:12:08,840
memory in my head of that flashback to that night

2380
02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:12,119
Christmas Eve when I lost that pregnancy. And then the

2381
02:12:12,239 --> 02:12:16,840
being beside me smiled like this smile, this knowing smile

2382
02:12:17,039 --> 02:12:20,800
of yeah, that's what happened, and I knew and I

2383
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:25,840
could feel, and basically she told me telepathically that we

2384
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:30,079
were very important to their research, that they needed to

2385
02:12:30,279 --> 02:12:33,920
see what would happen when that connection was withheld from

2386
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:37,720
both of us. And apparently what happened was that this

2387
02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:42,640
hybrid child developed her siabilities and drew me to Alaska

2388
02:12:43,079 --> 02:12:46,520
like a beacon so what I felt that I needed

2389
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:48,680
to go out there and get what I felt was

2390
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:52,960
physically there for me was my hybrid child who was

2391
02:12:53,199 --> 02:12:56,640
desperate to make that connection with me, and who was

2392
02:12:56,800 --> 02:13:01,119
using some sort of siability to draw me out there.

2393
02:13:01,359 --> 02:13:04,039
And I didn't know what was drawing me out there,

2394
02:13:04,159 --> 02:13:07,159
but I knew it was so strong and so important

2395
02:13:07,279 --> 02:13:09,520
that I would give up my life to get out there.

2396
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:12,520
And no matter how hard they knocked me down, I

2397
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:14,600
was going to get up and keep going. I was

2398
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:16,960
going to get there or I was going to die trying.

2399
02:13:17,279 --> 02:13:19,479
And I think by the third time that I was

2400
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:22,039
on my way out there, they realized she's never going

2401
02:13:22,119 --> 02:13:25,560
to stop coming for her. Even though she doesn't actually

2402
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:28,960
consciously know what it is she's coming for, it's strong

2403
02:13:29,119 --> 02:13:31,920
enough that she won't stop. And so at that point

2404
02:13:32,079 --> 02:13:34,600
they had to show me her, and I guess they'd

2405
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:37,800
gotten the answer to their experiment that that's what would

2406
02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:41,239
happen when that connection was withheld. We all seek to

2407
02:13:41,319 --> 02:13:43,359
know who we are and where we come from. And

2408
02:13:44,359 --> 02:13:46,880
I can only imagine from her point of view that

2409
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:51,119
you know she would would be desperate to know her

2410
02:13:51,239 --> 02:13:54,279
mother or who she came from. And apparently there is

2411
02:13:54,439 --> 02:13:58,439
an unseen connection, a link accord that they don't see

2412
02:13:58,439 --> 02:14:01,800
the others, the non human intence. They don't quite understand.

2413
02:14:02,119 --> 02:14:05,720
They're trying to figure it out, how to manipulate that connection,

2414
02:14:06,119 --> 02:14:09,920
what's all involved in that connection? And I guess she

2415
02:14:10,079 --> 02:14:12,640
and I were a big part of their experiments and

2416
02:14:12,720 --> 02:14:16,159
trying to understand that. So I did, and was shown

2417
02:14:16,199 --> 02:14:19,319
in my awakening that what all that Alaska stuff was

2418
02:14:19,359 --> 02:14:25,119
about was me on the inside being drawn to seek

2419
02:14:25,239 --> 02:14:29,359
out my child, and hybrid or not, she's still my

2420
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:34,000
child and I love her, and that was one of

2421
02:14:34,079 --> 02:14:36,239
the big reasons that I wrote the book as well.

2422
02:14:36,359 --> 02:14:38,720
I felt like, if I write this and I put

2423
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,520
it out there, it will forever be in the record,

2424
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:46,079
and somehow, some way she'll be able to gain access

2425
02:14:46,159 --> 02:14:51,399
to it and know that I never I never did

2426
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:55,560
not want her. I was too young. I didn't understand.

2427
02:14:55,720 --> 02:14:58,159
It wasn't that I didn't want her. I didn't want

2428
02:14:58,239 --> 02:15:00,520
to be nineteen years old with a baby in a

2429
02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:04,199
college jop out and that I didn't know what had happened,

2430
02:15:04,600 --> 02:15:07,640
and I didn't know that she was taken and obviously

2431
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:12,279
mixed with another species, and I wanted her to know

2432
02:15:12,479 --> 02:15:14,760
that I loved her, that I did try to get

2433
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:16,680
to her, and that I would never stop trying to

2434
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:19,239
get to her. So that was another reason that I

2435
02:15:19,359 --> 02:15:21,520
wrote and published the book in the hope that it

2436
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:25,039
would somehow find its way to her. One day about it.

2437
02:15:25,359 --> 02:15:28,039
Every day. There's not a day that goes by that

2438
02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:31,399
I don't think about her, and I wonder what her

2439
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:36,039
existence has been. That I carry that guilt that maybe

2440
02:15:36,119 --> 02:15:38,239
if I hadn't asked God to take it back and

2441
02:15:38,319 --> 02:15:41,239
give me that second chance, maybe she'd have been born

2442
02:15:41,359 --> 02:15:43,319
and none of this would have happened. She would have

2443
02:15:43,399 --> 02:15:45,479
known where she came from. She wouldn't have felt like

2444
02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:48,279
she was given up or taken or I don't know

2445
02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:51,640
what she feels from her perspective, And I think about

2446
02:15:51,640 --> 02:15:54,560
it every day. What does she know? What does she think?

2447
02:15:55,199 --> 02:15:57,680
Will I ever meet her? Will will we be able

2448
02:15:57,760 --> 02:16:00,239
to make contact? Because when they showed her to me,

2449
02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:03,359
there was a glass wall that ran from like it

2450
02:16:03,479 --> 02:16:05,840
was like a hockey rink, like from my waist all

2451
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:07,960
the way up to the ceiling, and I could sense,

2452
02:16:08,119 --> 02:16:12,319
I could feel that this wall didn't allow any resonance

2453
02:16:12,479 --> 02:16:15,439
to go through it. This child would not have known

2454
02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:20,479
or felt my presence there, just as I couldn't feel hers.

2455
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:23,439
I didn't know it was her until she was close

2456
02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:26,359
enough that I could look at her hair and somehow

2457
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:29,279
recognized it on a cellular level that it's not just

2458
02:16:29,600 --> 02:16:32,000
like my hair, it is my hair. It comes from me.

2459
02:16:32,200 --> 02:16:35,280
And that was my thought, was this being was created

2460
02:16:35,360 --> 02:16:37,879
for me. And it was at that moment that I

2461
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:41,479
believe they put that flashback in my mind of losing

2462
02:16:41,559 --> 02:16:45,840
that pregnancy ten years earlier, and me realizing and putting

2463
02:16:45,879 --> 02:16:49,040
those pieces together, like, wow, that's what happened to this

2464
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:51,840
fetus that night that I lost her, And here I

2465
02:16:51,959 --> 02:16:56,440
am ten years later in Alaska seeking her out from

2466
02:16:56,520 --> 02:17:00,680
some unknown connection that I didn't even know. Oh, that

2467
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:03,840
that's what was calling me to Alaska. But it, in

2468
02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:07,159
fact was this child who had, I guess, developed her

2469
02:17:07,479 --> 02:17:11,760
her sighabilities to make contact and draw me to her

2470
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:15,239
in any way that she could. And so apparently we

2471
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:19,840
were very important to their research in that regard the countless.

2472
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:22,120
Speaker 1: People I spoke to over the years which go for

2473
02:17:22,159 --> 02:17:25,879
a very similar ordeal, there is always a connection and

2474
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:29,159
it's always both ways, because she's fond of you.

2475
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's tough when I was given that flashback back.

2476
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:37,000
It sent me to a really bad place. I spent

2477
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:43,000
days in my bathroom just crying, shaking and vomiting. That's

2478
02:17:43,079 --> 02:17:46,000
all I could do was cry and shape and vomit

2479
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:49,000
and just think, how could you do this? I never

2480
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:51,959
would have I never would have wanted that for her,

2481
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:54,520
and I didn't know what had happened to her. I

2482
02:17:54,639 --> 02:17:57,280
thought God had answered my prayer and that God had

2483
02:17:57,360 --> 02:17:59,520
taken her back to the light or given her to

2484
02:17:59,600 --> 02:18:01,920
someone who was ready for her and to give her

2485
02:18:02,079 --> 02:18:04,680
a good life. I never in a million years would

2486
02:18:04,719 --> 02:18:07,479
have thought that that's what would have become of that fetus.

2487
02:18:07,639 --> 02:18:09,840
And so there's a lot of guilt with that, and

2488
02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:13,000
I have to live with that that this is what happened.

2489
02:18:13,079 --> 02:18:15,879
And yeah, to a degree, I couldn't control it. It

2490
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:19,440
was beyond my control. But there is still that level

2491
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:22,159
of it was my doing that created her in the

2492
02:18:22,239 --> 02:18:25,559
first place, that asked for her to not exist so

2493
02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:27,799
that I could have a second chance, which is an

2494
02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:31,239
awful selfish thing on my part. But at nineteen years old,

2495
02:18:31,360 --> 02:18:34,399
and you know, you don't know any better, and I

2496
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:37,719
certainly didn't know any of that, and so I'll always

2497
02:18:37,799 --> 02:18:40,159
wonder what her life was like, did she have a

2498
02:18:40,239 --> 02:18:43,120
good life, who raised her, was she loved? You know?

2499
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:46,120
And I hope to get those answers. I do hope

2500
02:18:46,799 --> 02:18:50,040
at some point, whether it's in this life experience or

2501
02:18:50,159 --> 02:18:52,680
after it, I hope to get those answers and to

2502
02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:56,799
make contact with her. I'm holding out for that, of course.

2503
02:18:56,879 --> 02:18:59,319
Speaker 1: You can tell yourself, I'm as much as possible. But

2504
02:18:59,360 --> 02:19:00,639
at the end of the day, you know, we all

2505
02:19:00,799 --> 02:19:04,040
have path and this was your path, and this was

2506
02:19:04,520 --> 02:19:06,319
her path, whether it's divine or not.

2507
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I do tell myself that that somehow they

2508
02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:12,600
knew that I was strong enough to endure all of this.

2509
02:19:12,879 --> 02:19:16,600
So surely the soul that they put into that unborn

2510
02:19:16,719 --> 02:19:19,639
child would have had to have been a strong soul

2511
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:22,360
because they would have known what she was going to

2512
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:25,319
be facing, what she would endure. So that's the one

2513
02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:27,959
thing that gives me some peace and some solace, was that,

2514
02:19:28,239 --> 02:19:32,600
you know, all this time I was traumatized and scared,

2515
02:19:32,719 --> 02:19:35,520
and then once I saw it from outside of it

2516
02:19:35,639 --> 02:19:38,479
and realized what it all was, I realized that they

2517
02:19:38,520 --> 02:19:40,680
were right, that I was strong enough and able to

2518
02:19:40,760 --> 02:19:43,239
get through this, and I did. And so I have

2519
02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:47,200
to just have that face that she too was selected

2520
02:19:47,680 --> 02:19:50,680
knowing what she would endure, and that they knew that

2521
02:19:50,799 --> 02:19:53,360
she was strong enough to endure it. So that's the

2522
02:19:53,479 --> 02:19:56,719
one saving grace that I have, is that surely they're

2523
02:19:57,079 --> 02:19:59,159
looking out for her as well, just as they did

2524
02:19:59,280 --> 02:20:01,159
for me throughout this whole life experience.

2525
02:20:01,239 --> 02:20:03,200
Speaker 1: I hope you know, like I said, she's made up

2526
02:20:03,239 --> 02:20:06,000
with the same hard stuff you are. So I do

2527
02:20:06,079 --> 02:20:07,840
speak to a lot of people, and a lot of

2528
02:20:07,879 --> 02:20:10,959
people's experiences on here. Not all of them will share

2529
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:13,840
the fact that they've had this pregnancy and they've lost

2530
02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:15,879
it is saying. A lot of them will just share

2531
02:20:15,879 --> 02:20:18,879
their experiences, leave that out and then tell me off record,

2532
02:20:19,159 --> 02:20:20,479
but it is mind blowing.

2533
02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:24,799
Speaker 4: Nothing is off record. I want everyone to know all

2534
02:20:24,879 --> 02:20:28,520
of this, the stuff that's uncomfortable and embarrassing and that

2535
02:20:28,639 --> 02:20:31,840
you wouldn't necessarily share. I mean, when you read that PDF,

2536
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:34,760
there's things in there that I wish everybody didn't know

2537
02:20:34,840 --> 02:20:38,399
about me. But it's important that they do know because

2538
02:20:38,440 --> 02:20:41,040
it's all part of it, and I want people to

2539
02:20:41,559 --> 02:20:45,239
see the whole thing. I'm not keeping anything out. I

2540
02:20:45,360 --> 02:20:48,319
put it all out there, and you know, if that's

2541
02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:51,799
my mission is to turn myself inside out for the

2542
02:20:51,879 --> 02:20:54,680
whole world to see all of these bad decisions and

2543
02:20:54,799 --> 02:20:57,760
things that I went through. And then that's my past

2544
02:20:57,959 --> 02:21:02,600
and I'm gonna follow faithfully and do what I feel

2545
02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:05,559
and was told that I need to do, and I'm

2546
02:21:05,639 --> 02:21:08,799
doing it. I'm talking, you know, on our weekly show.

2547
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:13,079
I'm putting the PDF out there and encouraging people to

2548
02:21:13,239 --> 02:21:15,639
check it out and share it with others. I'm working

2549
02:21:15,719 --> 02:21:18,479
with a Mouffon investigator. I told you I did do

2550
02:21:18,639 --> 02:21:21,840
the two hour interview with Linda Moulton Howe, although that

2551
02:21:22,120 --> 02:21:26,639
actually was more about the my lab experiences. I didn't

2552
02:21:26,639 --> 02:21:28,920
even get into this with you. But in addition to

2553
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:32,879
being a lifelong high level experiencer, I am also a

2554
02:21:33,040 --> 02:21:36,799
lifelong my lab of ducty. The US government's been very

2555
02:21:36,879 --> 02:21:40,600
interested in my experiences and abilities as well, and that's

2556
02:21:40,639 --> 02:21:42,399
a whole nother ball of act.

2557
02:21:42,559 --> 02:21:44,959
Speaker 1: Yeah at the top of my lab.

2558
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:48,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I could kill some of those people. And

2559
02:21:48,799 --> 02:21:53,600
I actually am hoping to testify before Congress under oath.

2560
02:21:54,040 --> 02:21:56,920
With David Grush and things starting to break open and

2561
02:21:57,040 --> 02:21:59,440
Congress wanting to hear from people that were involved in

2562
02:21:59,479 --> 02:22:02,719
these programs. We're told that eventually they will want to

2563
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:05,799
hear from experiencers as well. I am also a research

2564
02:22:05,879 --> 02:22:09,920
subject of Melinda Leslie, and she's joined our show several times,

2565
02:22:10,079 --> 02:22:13,959
and she's friends with Daniel Sheehan, who is a top

2566
02:22:14,079 --> 02:22:18,200
constitutional trial lawyer famous for bringing little blower cases against

2567
02:22:18,239 --> 02:22:22,319
the United States government. And Melinda Leslie is good friends

2568
02:22:22,399 --> 02:22:26,040
with Shehan, and I am trying to use my connection

2569
02:22:26,280 --> 02:22:28,799
with Melinda to get to get me in the door

2570
02:22:28,959 --> 02:22:32,360
with Daniel Shehan. And I'm hoping to generate a class

2571
02:22:32,440 --> 02:22:36,879
action lawsuit against our government for these my Lab activities,

2572
02:22:37,040 --> 02:22:39,799
because I think a lot of people would not be

2573
02:22:39,920 --> 02:22:43,360
okay with realizing that their very young children are being

2574
02:22:43,440 --> 02:22:47,360
abducted by the United States government and they're being tested

2575
02:22:47,440 --> 02:22:51,399
for siabilities, and if they have those siabilities, they're going

2576
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:55,639
to be inducted into these black op programs and forced

2577
02:22:55,760 --> 02:23:01,000
to do and endure horrifying things. And I've talked extensively

2578
02:23:01,120 --> 02:23:03,719
on our weekly Twitter show about it. Of all the

2579
02:23:03,799 --> 02:23:06,600
bad experiences that I've been through in my life and

2580
02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:10,559
all the traumatizing things with the non human intelligence, it

2581
02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:13,600
doesn't even come close to the betrayal that I feel

2582
02:23:13,760 --> 02:23:18,760
from these my Lab activities. Just being that feeling of

2583
02:23:19,799 --> 02:23:22,639
being betrayed by your own people. Not only am I

2584
02:23:22,760 --> 02:23:25,840
traumatized and scared and don't know what any of this is,

2585
02:23:26,399 --> 02:23:30,559
but then you're reabducting me, forcefully interrogating me, forcing me

2586
02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:32,719
to do things I don't want to do so that

2587
02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:36,000
you can get answers for yourself, and you're not sharing

2588
02:23:36,159 --> 02:23:38,840
those answers with the world or humanity to help us

2589
02:23:38,879 --> 02:23:42,520
all as a species. You're selfishly porting this information for

2590
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:44,639
yourself to see what you can get out of it,

2591
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:48,799
and you're destroying people's lives in the process. And so

2592
02:23:49,440 --> 02:23:52,920
it is also my mission to expose this, and I

2593
02:23:53,159 --> 02:23:56,479
have enough information to do just that. So that's a

2594
02:23:56,520 --> 02:24:00,920
whole other ball wax. And I've endured threats and surveillance.

2595
02:24:00,959 --> 02:24:03,879
I've been under surveillance my entire life, and I'm sure

2596
02:24:03,959 --> 02:24:06,079
this was listened in on as well. All of my

2597
02:24:06,200 --> 02:24:11,319
electronics are I've had interference, like calls dropped, being kicked

2598
02:24:11,360 --> 02:24:13,879
out of our show, had things that I mailed in

2599
02:24:13,959 --> 02:24:17,200
the US mail that never made it to their destination.

2600
02:24:18,079 --> 02:24:20,159
So yeah, that's a whole nother ball of wax that

2601
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:22,879
I didn't even get into with you. But in addition

2602
02:24:23,079 --> 02:24:26,959
to being a lifelong experiencer. I'm also a lifelong my

2603
02:24:27,120 --> 02:24:30,079
Lab abductee, and the two seem to go hand in hand.

2604
02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:34,040
If you're a high level experiencer, they're interested. They want

2605
02:24:34,079 --> 02:24:36,000
to know why and what it is about you, and

2606
02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:39,319
what your abilities are and what you can do for them. Ultimately,

2607
02:24:39,639 --> 02:24:40,399
you know, you know a lot.

2608
02:24:40,319 --> 02:24:43,079
Speaker 1: Of people they say, oh, the government wouldn't do that.

2609
02:24:43,200 --> 02:24:45,159
They wouldn't do that kind of thing to their own people.

2610
02:24:45,479 --> 02:24:48,200
I'm not just talking about the United States. I'm talking

2611
02:24:48,239 --> 02:24:51,840
about various different governments, but governments which experiment on their

2612
02:24:51,879 --> 02:24:56,319
own soldiers. You have governments which spy on their own people.

2613
02:24:56,520 --> 02:24:59,280
There's nothing that they won't do for their own interest.

2614
02:24:59,600 --> 02:25:01,760
Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things that people are

2615
02:25:02,079 --> 02:25:04,479
finally starting to wake up to. I think we're all

2616
02:25:04,559 --> 02:25:07,200
realizing that the veil's been pulled over our eyes in

2617
02:25:07,360 --> 02:25:10,920
so many different ways by so many different entities that

2618
02:25:11,159 --> 02:25:14,079
we're starting to wake up now and look around and say, hey,

2619
02:25:14,239 --> 02:25:17,520
these people haven't been operating in my best interest in

2620
02:25:17,639 --> 02:25:20,840
looking out for me. They've been taking my tax dollars

2621
02:25:20,959 --> 02:25:24,200
and actually using them to manipulate and control me to

2622
02:25:24,360 --> 02:25:27,920
benefit themselves. And I think as more of this starts

2623
02:25:27,959 --> 02:25:30,399
to come out, all hell's going to break loose because

2624
02:25:30,440 --> 02:25:33,280
when people realize the things that our government has really

2625
02:25:33,360 --> 02:25:36,360
been involved in and what they've been doing and doing

2626
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:39,399
to their own citizens, Like you say, I don't think

2627
02:25:39,440 --> 02:25:41,159
there's many that are going to be okay with it.

2628
02:25:41,479 --> 02:25:44,920
I mean, every horrifying thing you can imagine, and so

2629
02:25:45,159 --> 02:25:47,879
much that you can't even imagine, is going on in

2630
02:25:47,959 --> 02:25:52,239
these underground bases, and they are abducting young children and

2631
02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:56,879
testing them and traumatizing them to get them to disassociate

2632
02:25:57,040 --> 02:25:59,760
so that they can pull out these viabilities in them

2633
02:26:00,079 --> 02:26:02,520
and the ones that make it to the top of

2634
02:26:02,559 --> 02:26:05,159
the class. And unfortunately I was one of those, because

2635
02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:07,600
as a child, you just want to please the adults.

2636
02:26:07,799 --> 02:26:10,639
You don't realize what you're getting yourself into. But if

2637
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:12,680
you do find yourself at the top of the class

2638
02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:16,479
and with these abilities, they forcefully induct you into these

2639
02:26:16,520 --> 02:26:19,639
programs and before you know it, as a teenager, they're

2640
02:26:19,719 --> 02:26:23,760
throwing you into a real world, horrifying situations, trying to

2641
02:26:23,799 --> 02:26:26,959
get you to make contact with dark entities and trying

2642
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,440
to have you be an astral scout and lead their

2643
02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:32,799
military groups to different artifacts that they're looking for and

2644
02:26:33,200 --> 02:26:35,920
they're threatening you, they're threatening to kill you, they're killing

2645
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:39,159
people in front of you to disassociate you so that

2646
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:41,840
you will do these things for them. And then there's

2647
02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:45,360
the whole sexual misconduct element of it as well. You're

2648
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:50,879
dealing underground with extremely secretive programs that have zero oversight,

2649
02:26:51,360 --> 02:26:55,600
and these are all young, sexually active males that are

2650
02:26:55,680 --> 02:26:58,319
in these programs, and so there is a lot of

2651
02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:02,319
sexual misconduct that have to these children and young adults,

2652
02:27:02,479 --> 02:27:06,079
particularly females, but I'm sure males as well. And so

2653
02:27:06,239 --> 02:27:09,000
that's just a whole other element that is just sick,

2654
02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:11,559
and it's got to be stopped. These programs have got

2655
02:27:11,639 --> 02:27:14,719
to be exposed to people that were running them and

2656
02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:16,920
that were calling the shops that were at the top

2657
02:27:17,000 --> 02:27:20,479
of the food chain there. They need to be held accountable.

2658
02:27:20,600 --> 02:27:23,120
They made choices and now they need to stand beside

2659
02:27:23,159 --> 02:27:26,639
them just like everybody else. So I actually feel honored

2660
02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:28,360
to get to be one of the ones that gets

2661
02:27:28,399 --> 02:27:30,639
to deliver that build to them, and I intend to

2662
02:27:30,719 --> 02:27:35,799
do exactly that. I've got enough names, dates, locations, equipment names,

2663
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:38,959
I've got enough to make a dent in things, and

2664
02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:42,360
they know it, and they did a subconscious interrogation on

2665
02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:45,520
me after my awakening. They wanted to know how much

2666
02:27:45,559 --> 02:27:48,559
I had gotten back and what I planned on doing

2667
02:27:48,639 --> 02:27:52,600
with it, and I didn't let them in. I tucked

2668
02:27:52,799 --> 02:27:56,360
some of the deepest stuff away. They used an energy weapon.

2669
02:27:56,440 --> 02:27:58,399
They were in a craft over my house and they

2670
02:27:58,520 --> 02:28:01,760
used a directed energy web. And I wake up in

2671
02:28:01,879 --> 02:28:04,159
my bed and there's a notebook and a pen laying

2672
02:28:04,200 --> 02:28:06,040
next to my head and I didn't put it there,

2673
02:28:06,159 --> 02:28:08,280
so clearly they had come into my home and put

2674
02:28:08,360 --> 02:28:11,280
that there, and they instructed me that I was not

2675
02:28:11,479 --> 02:28:14,520
to write down the questions, only to write down the answers.

2676
02:28:14,719 --> 02:28:17,000
Why they had me write them down, I don't know,

2677
02:28:17,239 --> 02:28:19,799
but I have that notebook and I have all those

2678
02:28:19,879 --> 02:28:21,959
things that I wrote down, and there were a few

2679
02:28:22,040 --> 02:28:24,920
times that I did actually write down the questions or

2680
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:28,040
write down things that I wasn't supposed to, and those

2681
02:28:28,159 --> 02:28:31,920
pages were forwarded to Linda Molton. How she has those,

2682
02:28:32,120 --> 02:28:35,680
and they were forwarded to others as well, so they

2683
02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:38,239
know better than to even try and come and steal

2684
02:28:38,319 --> 02:28:40,719
them or make them disappear. At this point, I put

2685
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:43,360
them in enough places that it doesn't matter. So this

2686
02:28:43,719 --> 02:28:46,079
is all going to come out and I will be

2687
02:28:46,239 --> 02:28:49,840
going public with all of it, and if the class

2688
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:52,879
action suit doesn't take then I intend to file criminal

2689
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:56,440
charges against the ones that have done the worst things

2690
02:28:56,520 --> 02:29:00,399
to me. So yeah, that would be there's a whole

2691
02:29:00,479 --> 02:29:03,040
nother show there, because, like I said, I didn't even

2692
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:06,440
get into that aspect of things with you. I just

2693
02:29:06,559 --> 02:29:08,639
kind of wanted to keep it with the high strangeness.

2694
02:29:08,799 --> 02:29:11,639
And it wasn't even all the high strangeness, just sort

2695
02:29:11,639 --> 02:29:14,639
of the highlights and the general consensus of the way

2696
02:29:14,719 --> 02:29:17,360
my life has gone and the path that I was

2697
02:29:18,040 --> 02:29:21,959
led down and realizing why that was and what it

2698
02:29:22,040 --> 02:29:25,440
all was. But yeah, all along on the side of that,

2699
02:29:25,879 --> 02:29:28,639
I had the US government abducting me as well, wanting

2700
02:29:28,760 --> 02:29:30,680
to know what do they want you to do? What

2701
02:29:30,799 --> 02:29:32,680
are they saying to you? Well, why do you have

2702
02:29:32,840 --> 02:29:35,280
this connection with them? And you know, we need you

2703
02:29:35,399 --> 02:29:37,239
to do this for us and we need you to

2704
02:29:37,319 --> 02:29:40,040
make contact with this And it was just awful. It

2705
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:43,120
was so awful, like so much worse than any of

2706
02:29:43,159 --> 02:29:47,639
the non human intelligence encounters and interactions. So but I

2707
02:29:47,959 --> 02:29:50,159
truly believe they're going to get what's coming to them

2708
02:29:50,280 --> 02:29:52,479
because they should have known that they were not going

2709
02:29:52,559 --> 02:29:54,760
to be able to keep this secret forever, and that

2710
02:29:54,920 --> 02:29:58,520
eventually there would be whistleblowers and people would come out,

2711
02:29:58,760 --> 02:30:02,840
and now happening. So I'm very excited and honored that

2712
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:05,319
I made it this far, that I'm here to put

2713
02:30:05,399 --> 02:30:08,479
my truth out there, to hold certain people accountable for

2714
02:30:08,639 --> 02:30:11,520
the things that they did, and to watch the awakening

2715
02:30:11,639 --> 02:30:14,200
of the human species, and to see all of this

2716
02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:17,159
come out into the light of day. It's just amazing

2717
02:30:17,239 --> 02:30:18,520
that I even made it this far.

2718
02:30:18,959 --> 02:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Indeed, I said, it's quite a journey because there was

2719
02:30:22,559 --> 02:30:25,920
obviously two factions at work here. You know, you've got

2720
02:30:26,239 --> 02:30:28,959
a relatively good side of things, and then you've got

2721
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:31,879
this very dark force. It just seems to want to

2722
02:30:32,200 --> 02:30:33,239
keep putting you back.

2723
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:35,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, the yin and the yang, the dark in the light.

2724
02:30:36,120 --> 02:30:39,559
And I came to realize that they're both necessary and

2725
02:30:39,719 --> 02:30:43,120
serve their purpose, and without one the other wouldn't exist.

2726
02:30:43,360 --> 02:30:46,840
Like they say that saying, if it weren't for the darkness,

2727
02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:50,040
you wouldn't see the stars. It's like a push pool,

2728
02:30:50,079 --> 02:30:53,840
a magnetic balance that keeps this whole thing working. And

2729
02:30:54,040 --> 02:30:57,559
so as tough as those dark experiences can be, they

2730
02:30:57,600 --> 02:31:01,040
are necessary. And I'm just privilege that I made it

2731
02:31:01,120 --> 02:31:03,319
through both sides, the light and the dark, and that

2732
02:31:03,399 --> 02:31:04,799
I'm still here to tell about it.

2733
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:08,920
Speaker 1: And post COVID, are you still have an experiences? Is

2734
02:31:09,239 --> 02:31:10,280
there still things going on?

2735
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:14,200
Speaker 4: And not too much? I feel like I was given

2736
02:31:14,959 --> 02:31:17,440
most probably not all. I know not all, but I

2737
02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:21,079
was given most of these experiences I've had all my

2738
02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:24,319
life back and an understanding of what they were. After

2739
02:31:24,559 --> 02:31:28,680
the Awakening, I was reabducted by all the different groups

2740
02:31:28,719 --> 02:31:31,399
that I've had interactions with, just like the humans. They

2741
02:31:31,479 --> 02:31:33,799
all wanted to know how much I was given back

2742
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:36,120
and what I planned on doing with it, And there

2743
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:39,360
was some threats and intimidations made that you know, I

2744
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:41,719
shouldn't be going public with this and I shouldn't be

2745
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:44,799
naming names, and that you know, I just don't understand

2746
02:31:44,920 --> 02:31:47,680
that there's bigger things in play here, and you know

2747
02:31:47,879 --> 02:31:50,040
I at this point, I have no fear of any

2748
02:31:50,079 --> 02:31:51,959
of them, and I told them all, thank you for

2749
02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:55,120
your opinion, and I will certainly take it into account,

2750
02:31:55,159 --> 02:31:56,959
but ultimately I'm going to do what I feel is

2751
02:31:57,040 --> 02:31:59,159
best and I've been given the authority to do that,

2752
02:31:59,399 --> 02:32:02,000
so unfortun you have no choice but to just sit

2753
02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:04,239
back and let that happen, and that's what I'm doing.

2754
02:32:04,399 --> 02:32:06,079
Speaker 1: Good stuff, good job, Bridgete.

2755
02:32:06,239 --> 02:32:09,159
Speaker 4: Well thank you. I started thinking like, man, I've been

2756
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:11,639
talking for like two hours, non stuff. I hope we're

2757
02:32:11,639 --> 02:32:13,959
still there. That we didn't like cut out or something.

2758
02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:16,079
I'm talking with dead air, No, I would.

2759
02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:18,559
Speaker 1: Have got in contact of you again. Don't worry now,

2760
02:32:18,719 --> 02:32:21,440
bridget a message to our listeners now that there are

2761
02:32:21,840 --> 02:32:25,319
plenty people out there that have gone through similar programs,

2762
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:28,639
you understand and probably of what they're going through and

2763
02:32:28,719 --> 02:32:31,159
what they're feeling. What advice would you give them?

2764
02:32:31,440 --> 02:32:34,200
Speaker 4: I would say, stand in your truth. I was told

2765
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:36,600
that I need to have the courage to speak my

2766
02:32:36,719 --> 02:32:39,799
truth and the conviction to stand beside it. As more

2767
02:32:39,840 --> 02:32:43,079
and more of us come forward and share these uncomfortable truths,

2768
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:45,920
it makes it that much easier for others to do so.

2769
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:48,319
And as more and more do so, we start to

2770
02:32:48,440 --> 02:32:51,000
realize that this is happening to a lot more people

2771
02:32:51,559 --> 02:32:54,200
than our willing or who have been willing to come

2772
02:32:54,319 --> 02:32:57,600
forward and share that. And knowing that and starting to

2773
02:32:57,680 --> 02:33:01,879
realize that destigmatizes it, and soon there's not going to

2774
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:05,079
be any stigma associated with this. Many people don't come

2775
02:33:05,159 --> 02:33:09,000
forward because they feared or ruin their professional reputation, that

2776
02:33:09,079 --> 02:33:11,639
their friends and families are going to think that they're crazy,

2777
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:13,920
that they're going to be put into a mental institution.

2778
02:33:14,159 --> 02:33:16,319
I mean, most of my life, that was why I

2779
02:33:16,520 --> 02:33:19,120
didn't speak out loud about any of this. The few

2780
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:21,040
times that I put a few feelers out there, I

2781
02:33:21,079 --> 02:33:23,680
could see people looking at me like I was stark,

2782
02:33:23,799 --> 02:33:27,200
raving mad, and I thought, Okay, I cannot talk about

2783
02:33:27,239 --> 02:33:29,680
this because I'm going to end up in a mental institution,

2784
02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:32,719
and then I'm certainly not going to complete my mission

2785
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:36,159
or have any kind of a normal life. So that's

2786
02:33:36,239 --> 02:33:38,000
not an option. I'm going to have to keep it

2787
02:33:38,079 --> 02:33:41,959
all inside. But now the world is changing, The landscape

2788
02:33:42,040 --> 02:33:44,799
is changing. We have made more progress in the last

2789
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:48,280
five years in these matters than I think in all

2790
02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:52,159
of human existence prior. So the world is changing. People

2791
02:33:52,559 --> 02:33:56,440
do believe you. And there is now a change where

2792
02:33:56,479 --> 02:33:59,639
people are looking to experiencers to want to know what

2793
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:02,799
we experienced and why do we think we experienced these things,

2794
02:34:03,239 --> 02:34:05,639
and what was the reasoning for it all? And who

2795
02:34:05,719 --> 02:34:08,000
are these beings and what does it all mean? People

2796
02:34:08,079 --> 02:34:11,040
want those answers now and we have sort of backed

2797
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:13,559
our government into a corner where they really have no

2798
02:34:13,760 --> 02:34:16,760
choice but to come forward with disclosure. And sure they're

2799
02:34:16,840 --> 02:34:19,239
trying to control it and manipulate it and give us

2800
02:34:19,319 --> 02:34:21,799
as little as possible so that they don't have their

2801
02:34:21,879 --> 02:34:24,920
dirty laundry get hung out in the process. But with

2802
02:34:25,159 --> 02:34:28,719
that disclosure going public, and it shouldn't be this way.

2803
02:34:28,799 --> 02:34:32,760
But hearing your government or authoritative figure tell you, yeah, okay,

2804
02:34:32,920 --> 02:34:35,959
these things are real and they have been happening, and yeah,

2805
02:34:36,120 --> 02:34:38,440
we have been looking into them for a long time.

2806
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:41,440
We didn't tell you because we didn't know what it was. Well,

2807
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:46,360
that destigmatizes it in a mass way. And now all

2808
02:34:46,559 --> 02:34:50,079
these different organizations are popping up, and people are creating

2809
02:34:50,239 --> 02:34:53,959
private databases to log all these types of activities so

2810
02:34:54,079 --> 02:34:56,719
that they can try and find the common threads to

2811
02:34:56,840 --> 02:34:59,760
put some of these pieces together. And I believe that

2812
02:35:00,200 --> 02:35:03,200
all hold some of these pieces, some of us knowingly,

2813
02:35:03,479 --> 02:35:06,479
some of us unknowingly. But I believe from the bottom

2814
02:35:06,559 --> 02:35:08,799
of my heart that we have to all have the

2815
02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:12,120
courage to come forward with our truths and put our

2816
02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:14,639
piece of the puzzle out there so that we and

2817
02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:18,639
others can start manipulating those pieces of the puzzle to

2818
02:35:18,760 --> 02:35:20,600
try to get a sense of that big picture and

2819
02:35:20,719 --> 02:35:22,920
what it is and why all this is happening. So

2820
02:35:23,319 --> 02:35:26,200
I would say to others, have the courage to come

2821
02:35:26,360 --> 02:35:29,360
forward and speak your truth. Do your part. Put your

2822
02:35:29,440 --> 02:35:32,000
piece of the puzzle on the table so that even

2823
02:35:32,079 --> 02:35:34,680
if you don't want to work with that puzzle, others

2824
02:35:34,799 --> 02:35:36,200
have that piece to work with it.

2825
02:35:36,760 --> 02:35:40,159
Speaker 1: Wonderful final words, bridget I really appreciate you coming on

2826
02:35:40,319 --> 02:35:41,440
sharing that for our listeners.

2827
02:35:41,840 --> 02:35:42,840
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

2828
02:35:42,959 --> 02:35:45,719
Speaker 1: It's been wonderful speaking to you. Take care and we

2829
02:35:45,799 --> 02:35:46,440
will speak soon.

2830
02:35:46,680 --> 02:35:48,600
Speaker 2: All right, take care, Okay, you enjoy your day.

2831
02:35:48,680 --> 02:35:49,520
Speaker 1: Bye now, Bridgete.

2832
02:35:49,600 --> 02:35:50,239
Speaker 4: Thanks bybye.

2833
02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:53,680
Speaker 1: That's all for this episode. I'm afraid keep updated and

2834
02:35:53,879 --> 02:35:57,360
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2835
02:35:57,479 --> 02:35:59,360
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2836
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:02,840
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Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can reach out

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to me via the contact page on my website UFO

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Chronicles podcast dot com. A big fanget a, bridget for

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sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I will

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be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep

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watching the skies. Goodbye. An