Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Chad.
Speaker 2: It's Thursday. It's Pop and Bravo Thursday, and I'm here
Speaker 2: to chat with a legend of the Bravo world of
Speaker 2: his amazing, amazing impersonations. Darling, it's a Miguel Luciano. Hey Miguel.
Speaker 3: Hi everyone, Hey Mary, how you doing?
Speaker 1: Miguel?
Speaker 2: All right, Remember you have to call me Mary Payne
Speaker 2: because it's very double. Remember, Oh it's yeah, Mary pain Mary,
Speaker 2: it's double. And I have to remind you because sometimes
Speaker 2: people will like write and like you didn't correct your
Speaker 2: guests that it's double. I go, but I know you
Speaker 2: well enough to correct you.
Speaker 3: You can spank me if you want, Mary Payin. I'm
Speaker 3: an extreme. I'm like, I'm ready for punishment if it
Speaker 3: has to get to that. Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that all right? That devolved.
Speaker 2: Okay, here is something shocking about you. You impersonate all
Speaker 2: the housewives. You're a working actor, all the things, but
Speaker 2: you're not watching Rhode Island.
Speaker 3: I you know, I'm a nonconformist, no, you know.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I saw the first episode and while I
Speaker 4: did enjoy it, it takes a while.
Speaker 3: For me to get into things.
Speaker 4: It just does like I got into White Lotus two
Speaker 4: seasons after it aired.
Speaker 3: I you know, Salt Lake City.
Speaker 4: I remember watching it initially and then taking a break
Speaker 4: for two seasons, and then getting into it when jen
Speaker 4: Shaw got arrested. So this is not unusual for me.
Speaker 4: It's unusual for a Bravo lover. But it's pretty on
Speaker 4: track with my personality. So I know that once it
Speaker 4: wins a Peabody Award for Best you Know TV Show ever,
Speaker 4: I'll be like, Okay, I guess I'll binge it now.
Speaker 2: Well, my problem was, and the listeners have heard me
Speaker 2: say this every week. My problem was at the beginning
Speaker 2: was every single person had the exact same face.
Speaker 1: Like yes, I agree, like cut, copy paste cut.
Speaker 2: I had to make myself a spreadsheet with their headshot
Speaker 2: with pertinent information so that when I watched it, I
Speaker 2: could look at, Oh, Kelsey, Okay, she's the one with
Speaker 2: the sugar daddy with the big Okay, but Kelsey looks
Speaker 2: just like Rosie.
Speaker 1: But now Rosie.
Speaker 2: Has a husband that's a Frank Sinatra impressionist, and now
Speaker 2: those two are fighting, and that's.
Speaker 1: Confusing because they have the same face, but they're fighting.
Speaker 4: You know, if I remembered that one of them was
Speaker 4: married to a Frank Sinatra impersonator. I probably would have
Speaker 4: watched a second episode faster, because that.
Speaker 3: Is an interesting factory to me that I'm like, I
Speaker 3: want more of that.
Speaker 4: My only problem with Rhode Island was that it just
Speaker 4: felt like these girls know the franchise in the world
Speaker 4: so well, and it's just it's harder for me to
Speaker 4: fall into this suspension of like disbelief with them because
Speaker 4: they know the name of the game at this point,
Speaker 4: so I know what you're saying, you know, I think that,
Speaker 4: Like it just feels like even I'm just gonna be
Speaker 4: controversial because I don't give a fuck at this point.
Speaker 3: Like Alicia's a.
Speaker 4: Door and so funny, but she's obviously aware that she's
Speaker 4: like there's a shick there, and it's very clear to
Speaker 4: me that she knows what she's doing. So I'm not
Speaker 4: finding her as completely adorable and whimsical. I do like her.
Speaker 4: I do think she's fabulous, and I really will watch more,
Speaker 4: but it's she's she's aware of what she's doing.
Speaker 3: It's not totally like I'm watching someone who's unaware of themselves.
Speaker 3: So it's it's just not as fun for me anymore
Speaker 3: in that sort of way.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's okay, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2: And I think like Liz being such good friends with
Speaker 2: Dolores and also cut coffee paste Dolores, Like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: other Dolores, it's upside down world Dolores. She knows the
Speaker 2: day of the game too, because that's her good friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I found Liz to be a little
Speaker 4: bit less perform me though, like it in the way
Speaker 4: that she is over the top, it feels very real
Speaker 4: to her, Like that looks like who she would be
Speaker 4: whether she was on Housewenves or not. Kind of like
Speaker 4: it seems like she's just an over the top, kind
Speaker 4: of funny, quirky woman.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: And it's a very fine line right between being quirky
Speaker 4: naturally and then like, I know, I have a quirk
Speaker 4: and I can sort of play this up for the cameras.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, when you get into Durinda territory, when you're
Speaker 2: making your own merch and then going up to people
Speaker 2: a bravo, going cleip, you know, you're like, okay, like it's.
Speaker 1: Funny, but not when you beat it to the ground
Speaker 1: is not funny.
Speaker 3: Right, it's yeah.
Speaker 4: I think the best kind of the best kind of
Speaker 4: housewife is the one that's so funny because they're unaware
Speaker 4: of themselves, right Like, That's kind of why I enjoyed
Speaker 4: something Strack or something brown, even though she had a
Speaker 4: lot of moments where I struggled with her energetically. She's
Speaker 4: so funny to me because she has no idea that
Speaker 4: she's doing all these eyes and these sort of like
Speaker 4: she's kind of like, look, she looks like she's putting
Speaker 4: a spell on you every time you disagree with her, right, yes,
Speaker 4: Like I enjoy watching her because of that, because she
Speaker 4: has no idea that she's comical in that way.
Speaker 3: Who else is sort of like behaviorally funny that way?
Speaker 1: Well, Mary Cosby started out that way.
Speaker 3: Mary Cosby started out that way.
Speaker 4: And some would even say I didn't feel this way
Speaker 4: necessarily last season, but some.
Speaker 3: Would say that she had a little bit of the aware.
Speaker 4: She was aware that her harshense of humor was funny,
Speaker 4: and it felt for some people it felt a little
Speaker 4: put on. I didn't feel that way, but I could
Speaker 4: see maybe that perspective. It's impossible to not get caught
Speaker 4: up in the feedback right, and in the comments and
Speaker 4: in the what people say to you when they come
Speaker 4: up to you, and the producer is probably being like, hey,
Speaker 4: this is really good when you're funny or they really
Speaker 4: like this.
Speaker 3: So it's I don't blame them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, like, you know, Alicia said, you
Speaker 2: know a million times agw, she likes crackers, and so
Speaker 2: now that's a thing, like I need m crackers and
Speaker 2: she's everywhere she goes she has crackers. I mean, I'd
Speaker 2: like to know what's your favorite cracker, you know, but
Speaker 2: she's going to get what's going to happen a thousand
Speaker 2: percent just follow and yeah, the way Paris and the Charistas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh so it's all it all makes sense, right.
Speaker 4: It's like they're doing all these they're creating like identifiable
Speaker 4: you know, gimmicks and quirks for probably brand deals.
Speaker 3: I really think it's for brand news. I think all
Speaker 3: of them are.
Speaker 4: I think all of them are realizing that there's a
Speaker 4: lot of money and content creation and influencing, and ultimately
Speaker 4: it's a steadier source of income than the housewives because
Speaker 4: when they get fired, because most people don't stay on, right,
Speaker 4: it's a really hard industry. You know, they've got that income,
Speaker 4: that influencing income. So I think they're trying to create
Speaker 4: all of these little news sources of income and it involves.
Speaker 3: Creating an identity that they can bank off of.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, Bethany, who you love to impersonate Bethany,
Speaker 2: she has gotten herself in some hot water because people
Speaker 2: are like calling her out.
Speaker 1: And what was.
Speaker 2: Fascinating to me about the thing with the shoes that
Speaker 2: just happened was for people that don't know, Bethany posted
Speaker 2: lots of pictures and shoes and people asked her what
Speaker 2: are the shoes, and she said, this is not the shoe,
Speaker 2: but this is a good dupe and sent the dupe
Speaker 2: instead of the actual shoes that she was gifted, which
Speaker 2: would have helped that small business. The person went online
Speaker 2: and called her out and said like, hey, we sent
Speaker 2: these shoes and she's not obligated to tag us, but
Speaker 2: she did wear.
Speaker 1: Them a lot.
Speaker 2: The problem is when someone asked her she tagged a dupe. Now,
Speaker 2: all of that is fascinating, and Bethany has you know,
Speaker 2: strikes back and says what she says. But what I
Speaker 2: did not grasp of all of that right away was
Speaker 2: that the creator of the shoes is Lexion means a daughter.
Speaker 4: I didn't get that until later too. I thought that
Speaker 4: was the funniest. Oh my god, you and I are
Speaker 4: the same. I thought that was my That was my
Speaker 4: favorite part of this whole story was that.
Speaker 3: Back to Bravo no matter what.
Speaker 2: And that's even more disrespectful because it's a Fellow Housewives daughter,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not if you really think about it,
Speaker 4: it's not that shocking because I think Bethany has made
Speaker 4: it clear that she's okay with not being in fellowship
Speaker 4: and in alumni connections.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I think that's why the Rock Skincare was such an
Speaker 4: interesting you know, I did a brand deal with the
Speaker 4: Rock Skincare, you know, impersonating Bethany, Romona and Sonia.
Speaker 3: Remember that that collad that they did.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so the Bethany, Ramona and Sonia reunited for
Speaker 4: Rock Skincare. Yes, Rock Skincare, and I did a brand
Speaker 4: new and I impersonated their video.
Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah, which is great.
Speaker 4: I mean I did a brand new with the skincare
Speaker 4: more than actually the ladies.
Speaker 3: I was impersonating them. But yeah, I think I have to.
Speaker 2: Go find that I have to get I used that
Speaker 2: rock that it's like you put on.
Speaker 4: People love the skincare. People really really love the skincare.
Speaker 3: But what was I saying? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's why I think that that spaon con
Speaker 4: that sponsored content was so big because it was the
Speaker 4: only time that Bethany has like claimed her past in
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 3: You know. It was kind of iconic in that nature.
Speaker 4: And but yeah, so it's it's not totally shocking that
Speaker 4: Bethany wouldn't you know, She's she's good on connecting to
Speaker 4: the especially I mean, Dina, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But the whole thing was pretty it's extra rude. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, to be like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think a simple I think as simple. These shoes
Speaker 3: are new.
Speaker 4: This is the dupe. I think that would have worked.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, that's honestly. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: I see both sides of it, but I stay I
Speaker 4: airr more on the side of give the girl her credit.
Speaker 4: She's a small business owner. She could have used it.
Speaker 3: I would have driven.
Speaker 4: Bethany does have pull. She does have pull. People do
Speaker 4: listen to her, and people do trust her opinion, So
Speaker 4: she would have said, these shoes are great, they fit awesome,
Speaker 4: but there's they're sold out. That would have driven a
Speaker 4: lot of traffic to the girl's page.
Speaker 2: So I think literally could have tagged the shoes and
Speaker 2: people could figured out that they could have go on
Speaker 2: to the site and looked for other shoes.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just I think it could have helped the girl out.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not I'm not like Pat. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like a fervent anger towards it where
Speaker 4: some people do right where they're like so upset about it.
Speaker 3: I just think I could have I think I think
Speaker 3: it sucks. I think it was a bummer the poor
Speaker 3: girl could have.
Speaker 4: You know, when you're a small business owner, you need
Speaker 4: all the help you can get, really do. Yeah, oh
Speaker 4: that's my stance on it was a bit of a bummer.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a bummer.
Speaker 3: Got my hair looks crazy, sorry to anyone watching the video.
Speaker 4: I had a hat on, and then when I took
Speaker 4: the hat off because I look like a freak.
Speaker 3: Now I look like, okay, whatever, no one needs you don't.
Speaker 2: It looks completely fine. But the hat was it was
Speaker 2: too much on your head.
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Speaker 1: Thoughts.
Speaker 2: And I know you're going to have some strong feelings
Speaker 2: because I do that they have put on pause again.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, our girls in Miami.
Speaker 3: Insane, insane, insane, insane.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a franchise that, I mean, their worst
Speaker 4: episodes are better than other season's best episodes. So I
Speaker 4: cannot possibly understand how this happened. I mean, look, well,
Speaker 4: actually the only thing that I could understand is that
Speaker 4: if it's low ratings, I think, like seth any shows
Speaker 4: you posted, I mean, you put them on in the summertime.
Speaker 3: How can you put a show on in.
Speaker 4: The summertime and expect them to have, you know, ratings
Speaker 4: like that when people go on vacation and people aren't
Speaker 4: watching things in real time, and you know, it's.
Speaker 2: You save it up to watch later or get on
Speaker 2: the airplay Poe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: So it's not it's not a fair system for that show.
Speaker 4: You know, if it were a show that is must
Speaker 4: see television, appointment television, then it would work. But it's
Speaker 4: a show that's been off the air for so long.
Speaker 4: They moved it from Peacock to the Bravo. So it's
Speaker 4: a show that needed more support, and I don't think
Speaker 4: it could have with it just wouldn't have overcome that
Speaker 4: obstacle of bad timing. I think it was, you know,
Speaker 4: an error on Bronvo's part to not give them the
Speaker 4: support they needed.
Speaker 3: Which was a really great slot.
Speaker 4: But the fall, the fall time is an amazing slot.
Speaker 4: Everyone's back, kids are back to school, people are back.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like the beginning of a school. It's
Speaker 4: the beginning of the year essentially. Right the summertime is
Speaker 4: like everyone's off, people are not work. No one really
Speaker 4: works during the summer. Everyone's doing things. So Miami didn't
Speaker 4: stand a chance in that way. I really I think
Speaker 4: that it was a big loss.
Speaker 1: I just hope.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well, if it didn't make great ratings,
Speaker 2: then just keep it going and put it back on Peacock.
Speaker 2: We're still going to watch it, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and then you've got freaking Lisa Hawkstey and getting arrested
Speaker 2: for being oh my god, mastermind, and I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is what we need.
Speaker 1: We're missing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so good and all of those women
Speaker 4: have so much stuff going on all the time.
Speaker 3: It's just I don't know how it happened.
Speaker 4: I'm so bummed, And I mean, I'm hoping that, you know,
Speaker 4: Bravo has had a really good track record recently of
Speaker 4: keeping talent in the family, so, like I personally am
Speaker 4: manifesting marissof pad and appearances everywhere and in everything. You know,
Speaker 4: I think she's got a really great I think Marisol
Speaker 4: is probably one of their greatest talent in the sense
Speaker 4: of she doesn't have a long record of being problematic
Speaker 4: or rude or insulting, so she's got a great brand.
Speaker 4: You know, she's classy, she's funny, she's still cheeky with
Speaker 4: the alcohol, she's I mean, there's a lot there that
Speaker 4: they can use her for. So I'm hoping that they
Speaker 4: keep marisof high patent in the in the mix. Yeah,
Speaker 4: things like they've done with Kystein.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, great point.
Speaker 4: Dida Derinda has been used left and right. Derenda's another great,
Speaker 4: you know, character, great personality for them. So hopefully they
Speaker 4: you know, they keep Marisol in the family. I love
Speaker 4: Lisa Haxtein too. I think she's a doll. And then
Speaker 4: I love her in real life I love her.
Speaker 3: On the show. I think she's got so much going
Speaker 3: on all the time.
Speaker 4: Alexia, of course, is a gift that keeps on giving
Speaker 4: because every season something fucking happens to her.
Speaker 2: What's going on right now with her divorce with Todd?
Speaker 3: He and I mean they're they're together.
Speaker 1: I was really hoping you weren't going to say.
Speaker 3: That they're together. They're together. I don't like.
Speaker 1: That for her. And I mean, you know, they all surious.
Speaker 4: I mean, Marisol has uh, you know, without speaking out
Speaker 4: of turn, it seems like a new Todd has emerged.
Speaker 3: Okay, it seems like he's like things are really good
Speaker 3: right now. That's that's what I've gathered, that they are
Speaker 3: really really good. And you know, it took them a minute,
Speaker 3: but they're good. They're good.
Speaker 4: And I actually I have to say I met Todd
Speaker 4: when I was asked in Miami and we spoke a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 3: I stopped by their apartment. He's he couldn't have been nicer.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what else to say other
Speaker 4: than like I I was like, okay, this is a
Speaker 4: really pleasant kind person. I mean we spoke for like
Speaker 4: an hour, I don't know, but or less but I
Speaker 4: liked him, and you know, it's yeah.
Speaker 3: I know it's trick.
Speaker 1: We should be filming this, We should be we should
Speaker 1: be filming it.
Speaker 4: I know he's he's like really taking care of himself.
Speaker 4: He's working out, you know, she's working out. Like they're
Speaker 4: like on this path of like just I don't know,
Speaker 4: it seems like they're in a good place.
Speaker 3: So that's all I can say.
Speaker 4: I know it's so hard because you watch these shows
Speaker 4: and you get glimpses of things, and sometimes those glimpses
Speaker 4: are hideous and horrible and like, oh my god, how
Speaker 4: could you either do that? How could you say that?
Speaker 4: How could you be with this person? How could you
Speaker 4: let them back in?
Speaker 3: How could you do that to your person?
Speaker 4: And then you meet them sort of and you're like, wow, Okay,
Speaker 4: well I guess I know that the camera doesn't lie.
Speaker 4: But also, here's what I'm seeing in real life, and
Speaker 4: this is very specific too, and it doesn't match up
Speaker 4: with you know, what I'm seeing on TV at all.
Speaker 4: So it's it's really hard. It's really really hard to
Speaker 4: as a housewife fan who's now become a friend, who
Speaker 4: a good amount of them I have just I give
Speaker 4: everyone a fair sort of blank slate at this point,
Speaker 4: and I almost try to ignore what I've seen on
Speaker 4: the show because it just doesn't make sense. Like Tamra
Speaker 4: Judge is a genuinely I mean, I don't care what
Speaker 4: anyone says. I know because I've spent time with her,
Speaker 4: I've had lunch with her.
Speaker 3: She's a really nice person, she really really is.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that I can done half of the
Speaker 4: things that she does on the show, you know, I
Speaker 4: don't because I don't. Because I don't, and I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna make any excuses. There's things that she says and
Speaker 4: does and I'm like, girl, what the fuck is wrong? Sorry,
Speaker 4: we can curse here, right?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, girl, what the fuck is wrong with you? That's
Speaker 4: not cool, that's not nice. But at the same rate,
Speaker 4: when I talk to her and I see her and
Speaker 4: I see that there's like a real cool kind of
Speaker 4: girl there, I'm kind of aware of, like, well, they're
Speaker 4: in a pressure cooker of a show, and you know, you.
Speaker 3: Got to keep it going.
Speaker 1: Somebody's kind to stir it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And at the end of the day, we as
Speaker 4: an audience or the network or both we reward bad behavior,
Speaker 4: and it's funny how right we reward bad behavior, We
Speaker 4: reward shady reads, we reward you know, aggressive confrontation. We
Speaker 4: reard passive aggressive confrontation. So it's kind of like, if
Speaker 4: you're a housewife, you're damned. If you do any you're
Speaker 4: damned if you don't. If you try to be on
Speaker 4: a self improvement journey and not be the same bit
Speaker 4: you were.
Speaker 3: Last year, you're boring.
Speaker 4: And if you are a bigger bitch in last season,
Speaker 4: we say she's locked in. So it's like what, what right,
Speaker 4: It's like what what does a person do?
Speaker 3: So I don't know, It's it's all kind of crazy,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of shows that you're you're not watching, are
Speaker 2: you you're not?
Speaker 1: Also you're not watching The Valley?
Speaker 3: Is that right? I'm not watching The Valley. I heard
Speaker 3: it incredibly.
Speaker 4: I live in the Valley, so I think the only
Speaker 4: time I'll ever want it is if I'm on it.
Speaker 3: And I'm kidding. I think.
Speaker 4: Uh, I've heard it's very toxic. I've heard it's like
Speaker 4: gross toxic, like mean and like ow and like this hurts.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Maybe last season it was a little bit like that.
Speaker 2: This season is a little more of we're kind of
Speaker 2: locking in on how much we don't like Danny because
Speaker 2: Jacks is not around.
Speaker 1: For us to you know, Jax is always the focus
Speaker 1: of the bad behavior.
Speaker 2: Well, Jack's not around because he's been in and out
Speaker 2: of rehab and he was basically kicked off the show
Speaker 2: for being abusive, and so it's lighter because he's not there.
Speaker 2: But now we're focused on Danny because he's such a
Speaker 2: piece of shit. So that's that's been fun via the
Speaker 2: new villain. I think you would like it, but I
Speaker 2: think that you also went on a late vander Pump
Speaker 2: Rules journey.
Speaker 4: No, I've never been I've never seen an episode of
Speaker 4: the OG. I saw the reboot because I'm friends with Natalie, okay,
Speaker 4: and I didn't finish seeing it, unfortunately, But I did
Speaker 4: start it and I really did like it.
Speaker 3: But it's just, I mean, I'm very weird.
Speaker 4: Shows unusual, you know, so I have to finish vandom
Speaker 4: pump roles.
Speaker 3: But I think, you know, if I were to start
Speaker 3: a show.
Speaker 4: I think The Valley is doable because it's not that
Speaker 4: many seasons in right, Like I could never start Summerhouse
Speaker 4: at this point, Like I could never start that I
Speaker 4: could never I know too much.
Speaker 2: You and I are the only two Bravo fans in
Speaker 2: the world that don't watch Summerhouse. And every time I
Speaker 2: sit down to record with somebody out about Bravo, I
Speaker 2: tell them we're not There's no Carl, there's no Lindsay,
Speaker 2: there's no I don't care about West Amanda, I don't
Speaker 2: care about the city.
Speaker 1: I don't care, and I'm sorry, and you can judge
Speaker 1: me and be mean to me about it, but it's
Speaker 1: not my jam.
Speaker 2: And I was so happy when you said you yeah.
Speaker 4: Well you know, I feel like I think either I
Speaker 4: wrote it to you or either I said I forget.
Speaker 4: But I'm unburdened by the anchors of.
Speaker 3: Not watching it.
Speaker 4: But what I will say is that the clips and
Speaker 4: the previews are really interesting because I get to be
Speaker 4: entertained by the clips, but I'm not emotionally attached to it. However,
Speaker 4: I will say I struggle a lot with watching even
Speaker 4: just the clips, because I don't like I don't know
Speaker 4: what this says about me as a person, but I
Speaker 4: struggle with watching men behave badly on TV. I don't
Speaker 4: find it entertaining. It's not entertainment. To watch men be toxic.
Speaker 2: For me for me, Okay, so you can't watch The Valley,
Speaker 2: take that off your list?
Speaker 4: Yeah right, because, like so when I see Kyle spend
Speaker 4: an entire season screaming at.
Speaker 3: His wife through clips, just this is just what I'm
Speaker 3: seeing online.
Speaker 4: People are posting clips about what a And again, you know,
Speaker 4: the Bravo fan base loves you one day and they
Speaker 4: hate you the next, right, all it takes this one episode.
Speaker 3: He is a piece of shit. How dare he?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Amanda, run run, run, run you poor girl.
Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, he's a savior. He's
Speaker 4: a class act. He's handling it all correctly. And West
Speaker 4: goes from being the man. He's adorable, he's a teddy bear.
Speaker 4: This is all what I'm gathering. Even when I went
Speaker 4: to the Reality salegate party for NBC, it was a
Speaker 4: small boat of like, I don't know, twenty content creators
Speaker 4: or you know, and then Kyle on DJ Deck whatever, Duranda,
Speaker 4: k Shastain and West and West was the man of
Speaker 4: the hour. He was funny, he was charming, he was
Speaker 4: co hosting with Ki Shastain. It was like, oh wow,
Speaker 4: this guy's fabulous and now he has persona on Granda
Speaker 4: times a thousand. It's just like it is such an
Speaker 4: acid trip to run through public opinion for these dudes,
Speaker 4: it's insane. So that's been kind of fascinating to watch
Speaker 4: him be like mister lovable and mister congeniality, and everyone
Speaker 4: thinks he's cute and hot and funny and great, and
Speaker 4: his little beer belly was adorable to a lot of people.
Speaker 4: And now it's like he's discussing I look at his belly.
Speaker 4: It's like, well, all of you guys thought it was
Speaker 4: like a hot dad bob like two minutes ago. So
Speaker 4: it goes to show you it's not about how a
Speaker 4: person looks, it's about how you feel about them.
Speaker 1: So you also can't watch Southern charm.
Speaker 4: I well you know, okay, wait, wait, let's slow down. Now,
Speaker 4: let's slow down. I can't watch other charm. But I
Speaker 4: will tell you there's something about those boys from the trailers,
Speaker 4: from the clips, but I don't hate.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't know why, but.
Speaker 4: There's something about Craig is easy on the eyes, so
Speaker 4: I could probably just for that. I can maybe forgive it.
Speaker 4: Austin looks like a lovable sort of oath and then
Speaker 4: Shep I would. I think I'd want to impersonate him.
Speaker 4: I think I could get Shepp down show. So I
Speaker 4: think I think you could do.
Speaker 2: Such a good Craig because Craig's nice, is there?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, he's got a nasal voice. Oh but you
Speaker 4: know yeah yeah yeah, So I think Southern charm I
Speaker 4: could probably I could if I had to like endure
Speaker 4: men behaving badly. I think it would be that because
Speaker 4: for some reason, there's like a there's a there's like
Speaker 4: a bounciness that those boys have.
Speaker 3: They was like, yeah, let's go get a.
Speaker 4: Drink, and I'm like, okay, maybe I can kind of
Speaker 4: get into that.
Speaker 2: You want to h Yes, of course, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: Southerners we got to stick together. I mean every archetyc
Speaker 2: on that show I've I've dated or wanted to date,
Speaker 2: or they dumped me or cheated on me. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's all this. It's the same archetype over and over
Speaker 2: and over. And then of course you've got miss Patricia
Speaker 2: and you, which I've heard.
Speaker 4: Is I've heard, yes, people have told me that I
Speaker 4: would I would get a kick out of her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would she's sort of the the Mama Elsa
Speaker 2: of you know.
Speaker 3: What a what a high comparison? What a Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Mama also is a little more blunt, but
Speaker 2: Miss Patricia is just she just calls these guys out.
Speaker 2: She'd be like, what what's wrong with you? I mean
Speaker 2: she tells the women like what why are you accepting that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Okay, So she's not a boy. She's not like an
Speaker 3: apologizer of men.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's half and half.
Speaker 2: And I think you would love Madison Lacroix just because
Speaker 2: she's she's the.
Speaker 3: One that's like beautiful. I mean everybody out yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so that what I jump.
Speaker 4: But she's also again beautiful, like I can't even I
Speaker 4: mean again, I don't know what her personality is, but
Speaker 4: every time she shows up on my Instagram, I'm like, God,
Speaker 4: is there like a pretty I mean, she's just so pretty,
Speaker 4: that's the way to put it.
Speaker 1: She's got like a crooked mouth when she smiled.
Speaker 3: I love the crooked mouth. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: It's so charming.
Speaker 1: She's so cute.
Speaker 2: Last season she moved into her new house and I
Speaker 2: was just like, oh my god, it's like millions and
Speaker 2: millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: And it's just a charge.
Speaker 3: It's just at a girl.
Speaker 2: She's cute and her husband's hot, and you know, and
Speaker 2: I heard she's getting a spin off show. Actually, she
Speaker 2: and another person that like helps run her salon. The
Speaker 2: two of them are getting a little spin off show
Speaker 2: about their.
Speaker 3: That but a micro drama or is it a full show?
Speaker 4: Because you know how they announce that they're doing like
Speaker 4: little micro dramas, like sixty second episodes of things, which
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: I think that's what the kids do now, Miguel, I
Speaker 2: think they're called verticals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, vertical shorts. Yeah, yeah, they're big in LA right now.
Speaker 1: Because you watch them on TikTok.
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I'm too old for that.
Speaker 1: I can.
Speaker 2: I can barely watch my own programs now. I got
Speaker 2: to watch sixty second shows like it's just not good
Speaker 2: for my eighty HD. Okay, now we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about a show that you are watching, Yes, Real Housewives
Speaker 2: of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, sooch I'm loving it. I'm loving it.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna just kind of run through the key
Speaker 2: points of what happened on this episode, and where we
Speaker 2: start is Kelly is talking to her mom at the
Speaker 2: at the Chicken Place about her ex not letting the
Speaker 2: kids film on TV because we did get to see
Speaker 2: them before and now we can only see the older
Speaker 2: one who is.
Speaker 1: With a different dad.
Speaker 2: But also she's eighteen, and she's saying, you know, he
Speaker 2: won't let me film with the kids, which is she's
Speaker 2: I like how it's breaking that fourth wall. She's saying, like,
Speaker 2: it's part of my life and it's my job, and
Speaker 2: I can't have my kids on the TV because he won't.
Speaker 2: He's just doing that to hurt me financially mentally. And
Speaker 2: she's still dealing with this. When we first met her,
Speaker 2: she was dealing with this. Now she's still dealing with this.
Speaker 2: But she's got a secret boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Which I just saw too. I was like, good. And
Speaker 3: they've been dating for.
Speaker 2: A year, I know, and his name is Jarvis or Tony,
Speaker 2: but neither one of those are his names.
Speaker 1: So we don't know what's love it.
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think Kelly in some weird way.
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of love her. I kind of
Speaker 3: find her. I don't know, I find her oddly. I
Speaker 3: don't know. If charming is the right word.
Speaker 4: But I'm entertained by her. I'm amused by her. She
Speaker 4: amuses me.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the consistent dying of the dog?
Speaker 1: Hot pink? That dog looks it looks ill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't something they write about that, write about that? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I free, but you know what I will tell you though, way,
Speaker 4: I'm being a hypocrite because yesterday I was walking home
Speaker 4: and I saw a dog with a tiny white dog
Speaker 4: with a pink tail, just the tail, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's kind of adorable because it looks like a little
Speaker 4: like a unicorn or something. But in general, the whole
Speaker 4: dog being blinked out like that, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could do all that.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't enjoy it.
Speaker 3: The dog looks like he's in pain.
Speaker 1: The dog is not thrilled. Not the dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, hashtag save Kelly's dog. I know what's the
Speaker 3: dog's name.
Speaker 2: Let's just say Coco because generally dogs are named cocoure.
Speaker 3: So it's like free Coco. Hashtag free Coco. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 3: Coco needs to go somewhere.
Speaker 2: Oh, the girls meet and they discuss why or what
Speaker 2: is the reason that kay Michelle thinks everyone's plotting on her.
Speaker 2: So his last episode, cay Michelle starts crying and says, like,
Speaker 2: I know that you guys are plotting on me.
Speaker 1: And this sort of came.
Speaker 2: Because Porscha made a big deal about some oysters at dinner,
Speaker 2: saying they were not smelly like vaginas and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And so when we watched that, knowing no information, we
Speaker 2: were all like, what is Porscha doing?
Speaker 1: Like it's weird.
Speaker 2: Nobody at the table seemed to understand except Drew what
Speaker 2: she was doing. But kay Michelle took it as a
Speaker 2: subliminal message that Porscha was saying, Hey, the story that
Speaker 2: was out about you seven years ago, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say it or whatever. So first of all, I
Speaker 2: think that if that is what was happening, that's horrible
Speaker 2: to bring up something that was said about an x
Speaker 2: seven years ago.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just someone's like his body, and yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not cute, funny or interesting.
Speaker 3: I really don't like it.
Speaker 2: I didn't like it either, And so that is now
Speaker 2: why came Michelle, Like, you're saying when you get on
Speaker 2: these shows, you have to like play the game and
Speaker 2: up the ante to stay on and stir it up
Speaker 2: and everything.
Speaker 1: Cay Michelle obviously wasn't aware of that's what's happening.
Speaker 2: I think that's sort of her main problem is, like, now,
Speaker 2: hold on, now, I thought we were real friends, and
Speaker 2: now I can see you're plotting with somebody else. But
Speaker 2: that's how the show works, and she didn't know. She
Speaker 2: didn't know.
Speaker 4: Well, you know if the weirdest part to me is
Speaker 4: that it looks someone said this online and I wish
Speaker 4: I knew who it was. I give credit to it,
Speaker 4: but that it looks like there's a gap and like
Speaker 4: a lot has been taken out. She had a very
Speaker 4: strong emotional reaction very quickly. So something isn't lining up.
Speaker 3: You know, okay, And I don't think it's because they're
Speaker 3: trying to like. I think it was Candas.
Speaker 4: I think Candace was on a podcast with someone Candace
Speaker 4: Zillard Bassett from Patna, and I think they were saying
Speaker 4: she was I think it was her that was saying
Speaker 4: that it looks like something's missing. And obviously they've got
Speaker 4: they filmed twelve hours a day or whatever, crazy hours.
Speaker 4: It is so there's no possible way they have to
Speaker 4: push these shot points through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to, there's no other way. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I'm not claiming the producer for being malicious. I think
Speaker 4: it's just about getting the moving the story forward. Yes,
Speaker 4: so something looks like it's missing because she had a
Speaker 4: really strong visceral reaction almost immediately, So I don't know,
Speaker 4: mind you. She did say that it's triggering for her
Speaker 4: that she has not healed, So I mean, I kind
Speaker 4: of I'm on Ky Michelle's side.
Speaker 3: For this one.
Speaker 4: And as much as I like Porsia, because I do,
Speaker 4: and I think Porscha's an exceptional housewife. I think she's beautiful.
Speaker 4: I think she's funny. I think she's honest. Well, I
Speaker 4: think she's I don't know, honest is the perfect word
Speaker 4: I would say she's. Yeah, Yeah, I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: shade her. I don't think she's un necessarily a liar,
Speaker 4: but I I think Porsche is a strategist.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's a great word for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Porscha's a strategist, and I think that
Speaker 4: she can be honest.
Speaker 3: About certain parts of her life.
Speaker 4: But I don't necessarily think Porsha's a housewife that just
Speaker 4: shows up and lets the camera film her real life.
Speaker 3: I think she's aware of the name of the game.
Speaker 3: And Porscha looks like she drops seeds places. Porscha shady.
Speaker 3: Porsche's a great housewife, you know, yes, yes, yes, we
Speaker 3: have a right you know.
Speaker 4: So for a long time we were watching housewives just
Speaker 4: live their lives and watch the chaos naturally ensue because
Speaker 4: of large personalities or because of personal storylines. And now
Speaker 4: we're aware that housewives have to move certain pieces in
Speaker 4: certain places to get you to react in certain ways
Speaker 4: so that it feels organic. And Porsche is one of
Speaker 4: the housewives that has been around long enough that knows
Speaker 4: that she pushes this with her left hand and kicks
Speaker 4: that with her right foot, it'll fall into place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 2: Well, we've got Porscha's got this kind of this dueling
Speaker 2: storyline here where she's got this guy, Mike, who's so
Speaker 2: hot and he really wants to have kids, and.
Speaker 1: She says, for her, it's a deal breaker.
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to be pregnant, she doesn't want to
Speaker 2: have a physically herself have another baby. But there's this
Speaker 2: also this a woman that she's dating Sway, who also
Speaker 2: is very interested, and when her sister was like, well,
Speaker 2: but Sway also wants a baby, so what's you know?
Speaker 2: If that's the deal breaker with Mike, that has to
Speaker 2: be the deal breaker with Sway. And she says, Sway
Speaker 2: can have the baby. I don't have to have the baby,
Speaker 2: and then you know, we get you know, well, you
Speaker 2: can give me one of your eggs. And then later
Speaker 2: Shemia says, they say to me a sister, I was like,
Speaker 2: why is everybody swapping eggs?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 2: I thought it's interesting because we do know in real
Speaker 2: time at least last time I checked, Portia is with Sway,
Speaker 2: and yeah, Sway seems to be real rich.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, Sway has a swagger that I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I could see the attraction of Sway. Sway's got a thing.
Speaker 4: I'm into whatever Sways. I like Sways. What I'm trying
Speaker 4: to say, I like, I'm into the whole thing again.
Speaker 4: Because of my opinion about how Porscha moves. As much
Speaker 4: as I love her, I'd struggle to connect with whether
Speaker 4: what's real and what's not I do I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, you know, I don't know I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know how much of it is real. I don't
Speaker 3: know how much of it is.
Speaker 1: It's a wait and see, I guess.
Speaker 2: But with Porsia, you know, she married Simon and that
Speaker 2: continues to be brought up, that he was Fallen's husband
Speaker 2: and whatnot. She married Simon and that didn't work out
Speaker 2: well for her.
Speaker 1: I mean it did.
Speaker 2: She got a big house, but that didn't last very long.
Speaker 2: Dinnis didn't last very long, you know. So she sort
Speaker 2: of loves them and leaves them, or they love them
Speaker 2: and leave her.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something about poor SHA's track record or history
Speaker 4: that makes me just go. I can't place it.
Speaker 3: I can't. There's something indiscernible.
Speaker 4: About Porsche to me that I'm like, I'm I struggle
Speaker 4: to stay connected to her personal storylines. I find portion
Speaker 4: to be a formidable opponent in confrontation and in moving
Speaker 4: the pieces along because she's such an expert player. But
Speaker 4: when it comes to her real life, I struggle because
Speaker 4: it's sort of.
Speaker 1: You know, they're her real life, really.
Speaker 3: I kind of I kind of don't. I kind of don't.
Speaker 3: I kind of say something.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit yeah, which I yearn for a
Speaker 4: Porsche that feels not like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see, well you have that you're yearning.
Speaker 2: Shemiah talks to Kelly that she's worried. So she's got
Speaker 2: they've been on the surrogacy journey and she has one
Speaker 2: last male embryo and she's going to try with the
Speaker 2: new surrogate.
Speaker 1: And I mean that.
Speaker 2: Is so stressful, Like the I could feel that stress
Speaker 2: because it's so important to her husband to want to
Speaker 2: have a male child. And then she says Gerald also
Speaker 2: doesn't really love her acting because there was a love
Speaker 2: scene and then we see him on camera say, oh,
Speaker 2: I thought she did great in that, but she said,
Speaker 2: but then he said he didn't like it. And when
Speaker 2: she goes in to talk to the circusy coordinator, who
Speaker 2: also was a surrogate for her at one time, she says, oh,
Speaker 2: Gerald doesn't come in here to see me anymore. Wise
Speaker 2: in a year and she says he didn't like to
Speaker 2: be on the cameras. And so I hate that for
Speaker 2: Shemiah that I think she's wanted to be a housewife
Speaker 2: for so long that now, let me tell you something,
Speaker 2: I think one of the most fascinating, fascinating things about
Speaker 2: Shamia is the immense wealth that she has. But I
Speaker 2: had no idea how, we had no idea how freaking
Speaker 2: wealthy she is.
Speaker 3: She lives well.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you something funny. A couple of
Speaker 2: weeks to go and watch What Happens Live. She was
Speaker 2: on with a I think it was it was Rosie
Speaker 2: because it was the Frank sinatram person. Her husband was
Speaker 2: behind the bar. It was Rosie, That's who she was
Speaker 2: on with.
Speaker 3: Made me to watch Rhode Island just for Frank Sinatra
Speaker 3: in person.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this week they go and see him perform, and
Speaker 2: uh and.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Andy made a comment about Samia being the h VAC
Speaker 2: Queen of Rhode Island and they kind of looked and
Speaker 2: then and then they were like what Yeah, because she's
Speaker 2: husband owns all the HVAC and all of Rhode Island,
Speaker 2: even though he's from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I was like, SiZ hasn't so rich, Like yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's big. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're rocking and rolling, So all right, let's see Kelly
Speaker 1: and her daughter.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I.
Speaker 4: Really like Simi as a housewife. I know that people
Speaker 4: are there's I've been seeing some mixed reviews online.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, let me start with this. I love
Speaker 4: this season. I'm loving the season, and I love that
Speaker 4: it feels different. I don't want old Atlanta back because
Speaker 4: it's not it's not happened like there, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, at some point you have to just
Speaker 4: let things go and try new things.
Speaker 3: I like this dynamic.
Speaker 4: It has enough of Old Atlanta and the sense that
Speaker 4: it's fun and they're jovial and they had a lot
Speaker 4: of like it's cheeky and sexy and kind of splashy,
Speaker 4: but it's real and there's real relationship drama. There's real
Speaker 4: family drama, and there's real friend drama that it looks
Speaker 4: organic of.
Speaker 3: You know. Shemiah looks hurt. Yeah, you know, I agree
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 1: I agree with you and all that. These are very
Speaker 1: good points.
Speaker 4: You know, I think the season's great. But so basically,
Speaker 4: I'm into Shamiah.
Speaker 3: For the show. I am oh me too.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely into Shamia for the show. So let's see.
Speaker 2: Portia goes on the date with Sway. We find out
Speaker 2: that she met Sway. Sway says we met ten years ago,
Speaker 2: and when they asked Porsia, she doesn't want to commit
Speaker 2: to that timeline. She was like, I don't know, eight nine, ten,
Speaker 2: And then she does say it was a little bit
Speaker 2: of an overlap with Dennis, so that's why she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to say the actual timeline was. Sway says she
Speaker 2: wants to lock it down and she wants to have
Speaker 2: a baby in the next year, which is interesting because
Speaker 2: we do see them in real time together. So now
Speaker 2: this was too.
Speaker 3: Sway recently on like Instagram or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes, on a private plane, of course. Okay, it was
Speaker 2: all there walking up her and the kids and they're
Speaker 2: all getting on the private plane and going somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so this was very very interesting to me. Faedra hosts
Speaker 2: a healing waters event at her house. Okay, she has
Speaker 2: floats in the pool where everybody floats. Faedra is apparently,
Speaker 2: in addition to being a lawyer and a funeral director,
Speaker 2: is a reiki master and a healing flute player.
Speaker 3: That's incredible and.
Speaker 1: What can't you do?
Speaker 3: But it speaks. It speaks to.
Speaker 4: Faja's longevity in Bravo after's some pretty controvertr shoal actions.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's she will never go down.
Speaker 4: She's she's because she's gotten nineteen certifications.
Speaker 3: So every time you think she's out, she's gonna be like, no.
Speaker 4: Baby, I'm going to rake you, heal you back to
Speaker 4: that fruition and I, oh my god, there is a
Speaker 4: girl I have to send it to you. There's a
Speaker 4: girl that does Phager's reactions. She does like phagre and
Speaker 4: every confessional oh.
Speaker 3: With the lips. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I was like, this girl is good. I'll have to
Speaker 4: find an intent to you. But yeah, Phatres is another
Speaker 4: gift that keeps on giving. Truly, she's another gift that
Speaker 4: keeps on giving.
Speaker 2: When she when those people came into her house, she's
Speaker 2: like in her flowing robes and she's like, welcome, We're
Speaker 2: going to have you know, these Lashi martinis. Everything's organic,
Speaker 2: she kept saying, even the beat, everything's organic, free range.
Speaker 1: You meet. It was amazing.
Speaker 4: In Perfect Strangers, Nine Perfect Strangers seating a retreat is incredible.
Speaker 2: And so kay Michelle can't get in the water because
Speaker 2: she's got like wounds and she's going to have to
Speaker 2: go back to get this other surgery. Porscha's half naked.
Speaker 2: Everyone's marveling at her ass. I mean, Cynthia is like
Speaker 2: Porscha's asses ass, and she said her ass is not
Speaker 2: like two cheeks, it's like two asses. And I gotta say,
Speaker 2: Porscha's body is it is a marvel.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: I was about to tell you I don't want to
Speaker 4: be that guy that's like aggling, but I mean last
Speaker 4: episode or the episode before that, Shemiah was in the
Speaker 4: thong and I was like, this is this is a
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a feat an embarrassment of riches. Yes,
Speaker 4: these women are just beautiful and gorgeous and sexy and hot,
Speaker 4: like it is really kind of awesome to see these
Speaker 4: fabulous women just be hot on camera like every episode. Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know another franchise. I mean, I think a
Speaker 4: lot of the franchises the women are beautiful, right, but
Speaker 4: in terms of actual sex appeal, Atlanta's just got it.
Speaker 3: Really, They've got it down.
Speaker 4: Miami had it too, because alexis a bombshell and Lisa
Speaker 4: Hawxein is so fun and sexy and I know a
Speaker 4: lot of guys that are into Larsa Hippen big time.
Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of men.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's a couple of franchise, but Miami and
Speaker 4: Atlanta have that that heat that just you can't really,
Speaker 4: you don't get on the other shows.
Speaker 2: Oh So Drew arrives and she's early for the event,
Speaker 2: and Cynthia says, Drew, your condition is improving every day.
Speaker 2: And I was like, huh, And they do a flashback
Speaker 2: to Drew saying that her chronic lateness is a condition
Speaker 2: called time blindness.
Speaker 1: Zerie, are you hearing?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Wait, you know, I was hoping you were going to
Speaker 4: bring up do it at some point because I'm like
Speaker 4: talking about her at any time, and like at any
Speaker 4: of any day. I'm just going to pause Atlanta really
Speaker 4: quickly as the guest who's like, I'm just gonna I'm
Speaker 4: gonna take over for a second.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Were your thoughts on Beverly Hills? What were you? What
Speaker 3: did you think? Where are you?
Speaker 4: I haven't moved as much as the season was bizarre,
Speaker 4: for you know, ninety percent of it, I was locked
Speaker 4: the fuck in for the last ten percent and I'm
Speaker 4: almost wishing we would have started at that last ten
Speaker 4: and seeing where it could have gone because there are
Speaker 4: so many cliffhangers. For me, I'm emotionally invested now because
Speaker 4: I have questions where are you?
Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I loved Erica's new boyfriend, Journey.
Speaker 2: I hope that we can see him because he just
Speaker 2: seems so opposite of her, which will be great. I
Speaker 2: enjoyed that Kyle you know is, admitted that she was
Speaker 2: in a relationship with Morgan, even though she never says Morgan.
Speaker 2: And I thought Durie was angry, beyond angry, just just
Speaker 2: never just never, never put off the gas, angry, just
Speaker 2: just just keeping it going. And I don't enjoy that.
Speaker 3: I you know, I am, I am a a minority here.
Speaker 3: I really I really could.
Speaker 4: Not find myself not staring at Durit the whole season,
Speaker 4: just because I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was interested by person. Yeah, and some people were really,
Speaker 4: like to the point where they really didn't want to
Speaker 4: watch it, like it wasn't even fun for them anymore,
Speaker 4: which I understand because I've seen that.
Speaker 3: I've felt that way for other seasons of other shows.
Speaker 3: But I could not get over Jurith's relentless, boundless energy
Speaker 3: to react and defend and commit. I couldn't get over it.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is boundless, this woman, whatever is,
Speaker 4: She's unraveling. And I mean that as someone who feels.
Speaker 3: Badly for her. I know, no one does.
Speaker 4: People have a hard time feeling badly for someone who's
Speaker 4: spending frivolously, and I understand that. I get that, But
Speaker 4: I do feel badly for her.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I just do. Well, I know why.
Speaker 4: She's got two fucking kids, and she can't tell that
Speaker 4: she's losing her mind. She can't tell that she's she
Speaker 4: can't see it. She cannot see it and see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she can't see it, you know.
Speaker 4: And I do find that interesting. I do find someone
Speaker 4: unseelf aware. I just I don't know. I have a
Speaker 4: soft spot for Derey in some way, but I couldn't
Speaker 4: get over as an entertainment standpoint. Then, like you said,
Speaker 4: the foot on the gas, the pedal to the metal man, Wow, it.
Speaker 3: Was I mean that reunion. She must have been like
Speaker 3: that for ten hours.
Speaker 2: She she's yeah, I mean swat she kept going. And
Speaker 2: I loved Rachel Zoe's. In addition, I thought the new
Speaker 2: Sutton Brown I think is interesting. I know people felt
Speaker 2: like she was kind of boring, but I'm like, every
Speaker 2: season can't be like what Durik just every season can't
Speaker 2: be a banger. Sometimes your life is dull a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and also again and Browns and Strack is a
Speaker 4: perfect example of when you're locked in, you're either iconic
Speaker 4: or you're hated for it.
Speaker 3: When you decide to change and say, well, I find
Speaker 3: I won't get drunk.
Speaker 4: And she really made an effort, and she made a
Speaker 4: concerted effort to shift her behavior and her reactions, and
Speaker 4: now she's boring to some people. It's like, wow, you
Speaker 4: guys are just nothing makes you happy. There's eight six
Speaker 4: women on the show. Seven women on the show. Let
Speaker 4: them take turns. You know, I'm a fan. I'm a
Speaker 4: fan of what it's doing to her. I'm cool with it,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: I was fascinated to see her sort of between you,
Speaker 3: Me and the lamp post secretly revel in Amanda being
Speaker 3: the kicking bag. Yeah, she even joined in on the
Speaker 3: bandwag and she's like, don't be a whimp.
Speaker 4: And it's like, sweetheart, you got tears in your eyes
Speaker 4: when Juri pressed you a couple of seasons ago.
Speaker 3: Let's not get it twisted. You let them mouse go.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, you you have a very low threshold
Speaker 4: for input, so let's not pretend all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: now that you're like one of the cool kids who
Speaker 4: can take it, you know, come on, let's let's slow
Speaker 4: down here.
Speaker 1: Miguel's giving it, and Miguel's given a history lesson.
Speaker 4: Well you know what's happening to me, And I'm gonna
Speaker 4: just be honest with you. I think my first year
Speaker 4: of like content creation, I was so nervous.
Speaker 3: To say wrong. Yes, I was so afraid, and I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not an inherently mean person, So I am not
Speaker 4: worried about now that I'm like let my guard down
Speaker 4: of saying something I'm gonna regret because I know that
Speaker 4: nothing I'm going to say is inherently mean. But now
Speaker 4: now that I've sort of relaxed into myself, I'm like,
Speaker 4: let me just be a little bit more honest and
Speaker 4: be like, girl, be fucking for real.
Speaker 3: That's okay, Yes, yes, for real? Like what come on? Man?
Speaker 4: Like stop it enough to quote the prophetic Taylor Armstrong, enough,
Speaker 4: remember I remember.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna finish up with Atlanta because I know
Speaker 2: you have to go. So what we're gonna after the
Speaker 2: after the meditation and sound bath and the breaking healing,
Speaker 2: and they almost drowned Shmia.
Speaker 1: After all that, after all that, they.
Speaker 2: Sit down to this organic everything's organic, organic, organic meal.
Speaker 2: And I love when the ladies cay Michelle starts explaining
Speaker 2: what her issue is really with Portia and Withdrew. And
Speaker 2: I love that Phaedra is like, I have a sound
Speaker 2: ordinance in my neighborhood. There's a sound ordinance.
Speaker 3: It brought us back to real life for a second.
Speaker 2: Hilarious, And I love I love that Angela Oakley's over
Speaker 2: there going like, why does anybody ever tell me anything?
Speaker 2: And then she look over it at Phaedra while they're
Speaker 2: fighting and.
Speaker 1: Go, is this organic? So good? Hilarious?
Speaker 3: By the way, we haven't spoken about ed Lo Oakley.
Speaker 2: I'm upset, love love love her. I didn't love her
Speaker 2: last season, but I like her now.
Speaker 4: I think our HOA stands for Real Housewives orbiting Angela
Speaker 4: because to me, she is the perfect new sort of queen.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I love her husband.
Speaker 3: I love her. I think he's great.
Speaker 4: I think he's funny. And I'm still having recovered from
Speaker 4: last season when he said, why y'all talking to me?
Speaker 4: Of y'all got husband's bringing the husband or something along
Speaker 4: the lines of like anybody else got a husband here A.
Speaker 3: Kind of got you there.
Speaker 2: I've told this before, but when the new season started,
Speaker 2: when she was on it, and I was just watching
Speaker 2: it in my living room and my husband walks through
Speaker 2: as he does and sometimes makes comments on the stupid
Speaker 2: crap I'm watching. And he walks through, and he goes,
Speaker 2: he backs up and goes, is that Charles Oakley's because
Speaker 2: he's a.
Speaker 1: Huge basketball fan.
Speaker 2: And I go, yeah, I go, he's married to that
Speaker 2: one who's a new cast member.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: He's just like I can't believe this, Like legend of
Speaker 2: basketball is on that.
Speaker 1: I go, see, be get some good.
Speaker 4: People, no kidding, And people don't really like fans, Like
Speaker 4: the people that aren't sports fans don't realize the legend
Speaker 4: that he is massive sports fans that are like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: understand the context of some of these husbands that have
Speaker 4: been on the show reality shows, and it's a big deal. Yes,
Speaker 4: Martina on Miami Martinez Listen. As problematic as she might
Speaker 4: be for some of the things that she's tweeted and
Speaker 4: expressed and whatever, you cannot take away her legendary impact.
Speaker 3: As an athlete, not as a female athlete as an athlete. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I wonder if their marriage will last if
Speaker 2: she's not on the show.
Speaker 3: Julie, I believe, I actually kind of believe it. Will
Speaker 3: you do?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, you have insight?
Speaker 2: Okay, So the things, the things that ky Michelle is
Speaker 2: mad about are okay. She gives this list about the plotting.
Speaker 2: She says, my first encounter with you, Portia, was you
Speaker 2: telling another woman she slept with the married man at
Speaker 2: the BT wards. Then I was in the er and
Speaker 2: you made a comment about my miscarriage, and I think
Speaker 2: you're trying.
Speaker 1: To expose me.
Speaker 2: And ky Michelle says you have a spirit of exposure,
Speaker 2: which was hilarious. And then Phadria says what about black
Speaker 2: and uh, and then that's what Drew gets all mad
Speaker 2: and says, you keep black sname out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, and they start talking about yodeling, and
Speaker 2: then they start going back and forth and that's when
Speaker 2: Fatri says, no noise ordinance. But at the last ky
Speaker 2: Michelle and then starts talking about this last public X
Speaker 2: she had this guy named Nach which was on a
Speaker 2: show that I didn't watch, but people know who he is,
Speaker 2: and por She's like, yeah, I dated him, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't dating him at the same time, and you and
Speaker 2: I weren't friends. Why would I have to tell you?
Speaker 2: So that I kind of understand. If Porscha wasn't friends
Speaker 2: with Kye Michelle at the time, she doesn't have to
Speaker 2: tell her later I dated your guy. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 2: we didn't overlap. We weren't friends at the time. And
Speaker 2: then everybody we get a clip of all the women going, man,
Speaker 2: it is kind of girl coach, she should have said it,
Speaker 2: and Faeder goes, Porsha and I used to date the
Speaker 2: same guy, but we talked about it, and the producer
Speaker 2: asked her. She goes, Nope, nope, you'll have to get
Speaker 2: Porscha to tell you. I was like, well, no, I
Speaker 2: want to know that.
Speaker 4: Well, that's like the second time that Phager sort of
Speaker 4: put her foot down. Remember she said something else recently
Speaker 4: in a confessional that was like, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: explain it to you, Like she's sort of settled into
Speaker 4: her new status of like.
Speaker 3: I've been here a long motherfucking.
Speaker 1: Time and I'm not telling you.
Speaker 2: And then back at the table before we get this
Speaker 2: explosion at the end, Porscha is saying to Cay Mischelle,
Speaker 2: you know what it is. I think you're just too like,
Speaker 2: you're too sensitive to be in this group. And Fadre says, well,
Speaker 2: I think that we've established here, and Faeder tries to
Speaker 2: like calm it down. And Kelly, who has not spoken
Speaker 2: for thirty minutes and she came and crying because she's upset.
Speaker 2: Kelly blurts out, oh, I think what we've established this
Speaker 2: Portia has fucked every Nigerian in Atlanta. And she's sitting
Speaker 2: next to Portia and Porsha's like what and she goes
Speaker 2: nuts and then then she says again, Kelly, fuck this
Speaker 2: married man that she met on the airpane blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And Kelly starts putting her drink in her face, going
Speaker 2: play with me, play with me, And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh no, now we see production. These two bodyguards get
Speaker 2: in and Porsia says, you know, she fucked that married
Speaker 2: preacher and she looks at Faeder and Padri goes.
Speaker 1: Mmm, I know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't get better than this, It really
Speaker 3: doesn't get better than this.
Speaker 2: It's a married preacher and that pa because nobody else
Speaker 2: has backed her up. Nobody else, even Kelly said, and
Speaker 2: watch what Happens live, I still don't know who she's
Speaker 2: talking about. I wish she would just say a name
Speaker 2: because I don't know who it is.
Speaker 3: But doesn't that imply that, like there could be many No.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I don't think so I think she.
Speaker 4: Doesn't see her on watching it up as life, So
Speaker 4: I don't know the context. So wait, Kelly said, I
Speaker 4: wish you would give me a name, meaning tell me
Speaker 4: the name of the person you're insinuating.
Speaker 3: I had text with Yeah, she was like, I don't.
Speaker 2: I still to this day, do not know who she
Speaker 2: thinks I met on an airplane that I screwed after
Speaker 2: the BET Awards. I have no idea who this person is.
Speaker 2: It did not happen. It's completely my I guess asking.
Speaker 4: I guess in my mind. It's like if I know
Speaker 4: that I'm not really sleeping around, it wouldn't matter if
Speaker 4: you gave me a name or not, because I know
Speaker 4: that I'm not doing it.
Speaker 3: So I guess it means I am out and about
Speaker 3: and I'm allowed to. I'm single. Who the buck cares?
Speaker 4: But give me some context as to like who you
Speaker 4: think it could be, and then I can at least
Speaker 4: clear the situation and tell you that's a friend, or
Speaker 4: that's my friend's manager, or that's my.
Speaker 2: Now she's saying it's a mare preacher. Yeah, And Phaedra
Speaker 2: and Nods Goes and uh Adrian Forshaw are not new
Speaker 2: to this. They are true to this. They've been around
Speaker 2: for a long time and they know that it's Behooves.
Speaker 2: Both of them just sort of just sort of have
Speaker 2: an alliance ky. Michelle did say on Watching What Happens
Speaker 2: Live that she was she's very close with Phaedra and
Speaker 2: also with Kelly, and that she and her husband have
Speaker 2: been out with Kelly and the new man and that
Speaker 2: he's great.
Speaker 3: How was that? How was Michelle on Watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen any.
Speaker 1: First of all, she looks completely different.
Speaker 2: She had them like glasses like this, like big giant
Speaker 2: like ekle glasses.
Speaker 3: She had like a red wig or a red dress
Speaker 3: on her.
Speaker 2: She looked very different, which is kind of shows. I
Speaker 2: love people that could really like change their looks so
Speaker 2: much that you don't recognize them.
Speaker 1: She was great, she was quick, she was funny.
Speaker 3: Andy heard Andy really enjoys her.
Speaker 2: He did enjoy her, and she was talking about her
Speaker 2: dentist husband now he can't have She doesn't like that
Speaker 2: he wears his scrubs because women can see the outline
Speaker 2: of his manhood. And she goes, Andy, it's down to
Speaker 2: his knee and he's like slinging it around.
Speaker 1: He's very blessed, he's very girthy, and.
Speaker 2: He kept She kept on and Andy goes, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: did you say down to his knee? And she goes, yes,
Speaker 2: she goes and it's just like it's he needs to
Speaker 2: wear support underwear, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And Andy's like, are you taking any new dental patients
Speaker 1: in Atlanta? And she thought that was hilarious And it's.
Speaker 3: Kind of obsessed with each other.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so it was good. It was very good good,
Speaker 1: and it made it made me like her more.
Speaker 3: It did oh good.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think that, And I think that also
Speaker 4: helps when when Andy gives you the sort of like
Speaker 4: I'm into you and I'm amused by you, because when
Speaker 4: Andy's sunshine is on you, it feels very warm, and
Speaker 4: when he's not having it, he's not having it and
Speaker 4: you can see it.
Speaker 3: I watch it have I I think he's pretty. His
Speaker 3: face is like a poem.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you can tell, and he doesn't.
Speaker 4: Tell like I am totally. I love his obsession with
Speaker 4: Stacy from Potomac. He just adores her. He thinks that
Speaker 4: she's like just a toy, like a shiny toy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm glad he loves k Michelle. I think
Speaker 4: Michelle is great on the show. I think she's really interesting.
Speaker 4: I think she's I can't even compare her to anyone
Speaker 4: else we've had recently, which I like. I like when
Speaker 4: the housewife comes on the show and I'm like you,
Speaker 4: there's no one like you. That is my favorite feeling.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That's why I fell in love with Bronwyn. When she
Speaker 4: came on Salt Lake City. I was like, we are
Speaker 4: not playing with the same fucking toys we've had before.
Speaker 4: Bronwin is her own universe.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see single Bronwin a great Yeah. Okay, Miguel,
Speaker 1: tell everybody where they can.
Speaker 2: Follow you to see all of what you're doing. Your
Speaker 2: hilarious impersonations, and uh so I'm hearing now that your
Speaker 2: personations are getting a little more edgy, a.
Speaker 4: Little little bit more. I think I'm having a little
Speaker 4: bit more fun with them. You know, my Mauricio is
Speaker 4: certainly pushing the envelope a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so that's kind of cool. I yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I'm having a little bit more fun now.
Speaker 4: I think now I'm like, well, you know, I know
Speaker 4: that I mean it from a good place. The people
Speaker 4: that are watching it know it. So now I think
Speaker 4: I can just relax a little bit.
Speaker 3: But honestly, in my in.
Speaker 4: My defense, I think even from the beginning, I was
Speaker 4: still pretty I was still pretty cheeky.
Speaker 3: I don't think I was speaking.
Speaker 1: You're cheeky, but you're never mean, you know, I never mean.
Speaker 4: You know, someone Erica Jane said the same thing when
Speaker 4: I saw her. I filmed The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip.
Speaker 4: I went to Kyle's house and you know, like I
Speaker 4: met a bunch of the housewives and not for the
Speaker 4: white party and Erica. You know, I went up to
Speaker 4: Erica and I said, you know, nice to meet you.
Speaker 4: When it was because she goes, I know who you are.
Speaker 4: I think your videos are great, and she said, and
Speaker 4: your videos are very funny, but they don't have a
Speaker 4: they have a bite to them, but they're never mean.
Speaker 3: And I think that's hard to do.
Speaker 1: I think that that was a compliment.
Speaker 3: I really and especially from her because she's a showman.
Speaker 4: I'm a showman dirt, So on my Instagram where you
Speaker 4: can follow me from my impersonations that are amazing.
Speaker 3: Then tik talk Miguel on the score the Seattle.
Speaker 2: Okay, As I always say, don't hang up and I
Speaker 2: will talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being here, thank you for having me.