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How you doing, Stormy, I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: Now about yourself doing good? Doing good? So this is
probably a little different than some of the appearances you've
been making lately. Yeah, how did you put it? You
just put it right before we start it, right before
I hit record. Let's talk about WASP history. And specifically,
let's look for some heroes in the past. Asked that
some people may have overlooked as heroes. You've you've gone
down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I have. I as a member of this
class that everyone seems to forget existed. I am. I
very much focus on, you know, kind of the better
years of my people before we were, before we took
our eye off the ball.
Speaker 1: What's really interesting, though, is is that you know one
specific group you know we're going to look at is
uh yeah. I think most people who would be listening
to this would definitely think that they were they were
villains and they tried to do something, they tried to
do something awful, and you you'll you'll be happy to
know that I am. I gave I gave my lovely
bride an overview of this today and she's like, oh,
what could have been?
Speaker 2: Yes, what could have been? I bet you Like, I've
talked to a couple guys in our scene about this,
and nobody has any idea that this happened. So what
I hope to do with you? Pete over you know,
probably you know this episode and maybe a couple others
go through the fascist America that could have been and
what was called in the press at the time the
business plot. And it would probably surprise a lot of
people that are listening to this that not only were
there both this way they've all heard of, like of
Charles Lindberg and America First, but there was a lot
more to it than that. And Charles Lindbergh didn't just
up and get the idea of America first. America First
was the second at bat right, the the plan be,
so to speak of Unfortunately, probably the most villainized people
in American history outside of well in you know, contemporary history,
outside of Adolf Hitler, right Like, you're supposed to hate
you know, Uncle Adolph, and you're supposed to hate Mussolini. Yeah,
that's correct, And you're supposed to hate guys like John
Pierpont Morgan and David Rockefeller as villains. Right, these are
robber barons, right, We're we're forced to, like a lot
of us, come through at least some level of conspirator
land to get to where we are, right Like, it
takes a while going down all these different rabbit holes
and you get to your final one, that the final
one you realize, like, who's really at the bottom of
all of this and then then you switch. Well, some
people will stay in conspiratored land, and this is like
I view, these are like the people that view that
certain group is omnipotent and all knowing and that resistance
is futile. Like those are the conspirators that got to
the bottom of the rabbit hole and didn't get the
urge that people like me got or people like you got,
because they're like, one or two things is going to happen.
You're going to get to the bottom of that last
rabbit hole, and you're either going to get real political
real fast, or you're just going to stay down there
and be useless. But the ones that decide to get
real political real fast, they don't know it, but they
take a lot of that with them, a lot of
all of the other false rabbit holes that they were
taught like or that they went down, and all the
villainous deeds of John D. Rockefeller and all the villainous
deeds of John Pierpont Morgan. And it would surprise many
of them that these great men saw what was happening
in Germany. And there's really no other way to put it.
What these men witnessed was a miracle. Like up until
that point, these men, I mean, there's going to be
a lot of civil war hate and stuff, and you know,
evil Yankee fucking carpetbagging industrialist bastards. But the enemy is
now that our current current enemy. So maybe we can
be a little forgiving as we go forward, because these
guys very much built this country, Like as we see
like those all of those you know, huddled masses that
the Statue of Liberty talks about, all these peasant farmers
from all over Europe, Like these people barely knew how
to read and write, but they weren't stupid. And we
joke about how all these people thought that you know,
the cities were paved with gold, Like they're so stupid,
But they don't understand what America was up until World
War one, world War two. What America did from eighteen
sixty arguably to nineteen ten was create more wealth per capita. Right,
So you can say whatever you want about the rich industrialists,
they actually shared the wealth unlike our current elite. They
built more wealth as a nation than any previous civilization
in history. Right, whether you can add ancient Egyptians, ancient Greeks,
ancient Chinese, ancient Indians, whatever, put them all together in
a pot, right, and they won't even fill up half
of the glass that these men created in under one
hundred years. So when they saw the Great Depression, right
and what it was doing to the country, and they
looked across the ocean at what Hitler did in four years,
these men thought it was a miracle. And guys like
closet leftists Anthony Sutton wrote books about, you know, how
the Nazi government was just a creation of you know,
rich benkers and industrialists, just a puppet, you know, just
like the Communists were, And that's not the case at all.
Guys like Henry Ford, guys like Jack Morgan, guys like
I forget the guy, the guy's name that started IBM,
doesn't matter, and guys like Nelson Rockefeller. When they saw
what Hitler was doing, it was a fucking miracle to them,
like he did something impossible. And they saw what the
Soviet Union was doing and they're like, this is not
the thing. So the business plot is the story of
how these industrialists sent agents, personal representatives to every single
one of the fascist governments for years, for a year
and a half the one that Jack Morgan sent was
operating out of Morgan and Hodges, which was the Paris
affiliate right his Paris subsidiary, and sending reports back to
Jack Morgan from Germany about how Hitler came to power,
how he was able to do what he did, and
when they thought they learned enough, they went to recreate it.
They wanted here what they saw Hitler having there and
if it wasn't And the other thing that pisses me off, like,
not only do we trash our own heroes because we've
been trained to think that they were villains, but we
lawed our enemies. You know how many fucking stupid right
wingers will hit me with Smedley Butler quotes a fucking communist.
The only reason you don't have a based fascist government
in America is because of that, that terrible, terrible human
being and him betraying the men that put their faith
in him. So like, for instance, I'll read you a
quote from the Morgan library. Is very interesting. This is
to give you an idea of what could have been,
and then I'll get into who these men were. Right,
So there were three, you know, on the ground guys
that were all heads of various industry at one point
in time or another right that went overseas and fought
in World War One and came back and now we're
the head of veterans organizations inside the US after World
War One that kind of organized around what was called
the Bonus Army Right. And two of those guys, and
mister Maguire and mister mister Doyle, were heads of the
Massachusetts and New York Veterans Associations. And it was the
Veterans Associations that these guys as in like the guys
higher up the Boochain, saw as the mechanism at which
a fastist government could come to power. They saw it
in Germany, and they saw it in Italy, and they
saw how central the veterans were from the very beginning,
so through emissaries like Rs Clark, guys like Jack Morgan
and his good friend Henry Ford, and they were very
close friends. In fact, the largest or the most frequent
contributor to letters to the editor and frequent penner of
op eds in The Dearborn Independent was one Jack Morgan.
Speaker 1: And as JP Morgan, as JP Morgan's.
Speaker 2: Son, yep JP Morganson, and after his death the chairman
of JP Morgan Chasing Company.
Speaker 1: And for those who are unaware of yeah, and for
those who are unaware of the Dearborn Independent, can't tell
them what that was.
Speaker 2: The Dearborn Independent was Henry Ford's newspaper. So not only
was it in we've always heard the stories that the
newspaper was something that he printed as like a side project.
You know, its like a little thing a crazy old
man did and he had to stuff him in the
glove compartment of every Ford car and truck to you know,
get it out there. It's not the case. A large
The reason that they were able to get such a
wide circulations because it was subscription based. It was basically
like podcasts and shit are today and substacks. It was
like a vast majority of Dearborn Independent newspapers went out
via subscription, and it was the most read newspaper outside
of the New York Times in Wall Street because you know,
those people were the enemy, and I mean just finance
in general is villainized. But anyways, you want to talk
about Jewish power, the only place you were hearing about
Jewish power was in the Dearborn Independent and Father Coughlan's
radio showing that was it, and the largest contributor outside
of Henry Ford himself to that operation was the head
of JP Morgan, Chase and Company, a guy that we
often villainize. The second most frequent op ed contributor was
one John D. Rockefeller. Interesting that and his sons would
continue the tradition. Another I'll get more into Anglo history
later or Lost history later, but another guy that's frequently
villainized is Alan Dulles and his brother John Foster Dulles.
If I had to stack rank great Americans the last
hundred years, one hundred and fifty years, Patent would be
somewhere in the middle of that list. And guys like
John Foster Dulles, who's probably one of the most brilliant
statesmen the United States ever produced, and his brother Alan Dulles,
by the way, both of them were very high ups
in the Trying to think is Lutheran or Episcopal Church,
I'm still getting the hang of Protestantism and the many
denominations that you make it up. But these men were
not only fascist sympathizers, but they actively tried to create
a fascist government and became and came within a cunt
hairs distance away from actually pulling it off. And if
it wasn't Smedley Butler, you know, I guess staying true
to the brokenness that's inside of a person to be
a communist and him running to FDR and snitching on
all these men, you probably would have had one and
the two representatives John of the two veterans organizations, John
Doyle and mister Maguire. They wanted Smedley for the position, right,
So the way that they planned it, Oh never mind,
I'm going to back up a little bit. But you
could have had a fascist government and the people that
you're taught to hate or just let out think don't
exist came inches away from achieving just that. And there's
virtually no history right outside of knowing that JP Morgan
is a bad man, all right, John D. Rockefell was
a bad man. The history of America from the Civil
War to World War One like doesn't exist. It's not taught.
So we became the richest civilization in the history of
the world. Nobody fucking talks about it. How did that happen?
Who did it? It's been virtually raised. And we'll start
with JP Morgan, Jack's father, and then I'll go into
some other people that you were probably taught to hate.
What do you think, Pete. We start with Pierpont.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's as one of the most interesting men
that ever lived. For damn sure, yes he was so.
Speaker 2: John Pierpont Morgan was the great grandson of Captain Jack Morgan.
That's who Jack, his son was named after, right, was
probably one of the I guess most notable privateers after
the Revolutionary War, saving countless, countless white souls from enslavement
on the Barbary coast and the killer of many many
English sailors. You know him today? You are familiar with
this man, or at least his life backness. He is
emblazoned on well, the most popular rum model in the country.
John Pierpont's Morgan, John Pierpont Morgan's granddad is that Captain Morgan? Yeah?
Like literally a pirate, a privateer. So John Morgan believed
that he owed all of his success to America, and
he firmly believed it. And this is something our elites
don't get right, So how do I put this? A
lot of the things that we associate with nobility, the
concept of no bless obliege and duty died in Europe
about two hundred years before they died. In the United States,
America was never supposed to have an aristocracy, or like
never have one, you know, officially, but that's what these
men viewed themselves as. And if you have unlimited money,
all the money in the world, right, and you never
have to work a day in your life, and you
can have anything you want whenever you want it. On
the surface to regular people, that sounds like the best
life ever. But it's not. It's hell. It's very depressing life.
It's a purposeless life. So the one thing that we
know about man is that man needs purpose. He doesn't
need sustenance like you can give him. Sustenance you can
give This is why communism never worked, all right. He's
you're basically in a rare as Thomas put it. You know,
you're basically living in a prison slash retirement community, just
waiting to die. That's what would have been these people's
lives if they didn't search for meaning in other places.
And the thing that indexed the most with their soul
was the nobility and aristocracy of Europe, and the traditions
of the British aristocracy continued in America far longer than
they continued in England. These men lived their lives around
own duty and honor. I mean. One of the most
famous quotes I think from JP Morgan when asked if
somebody could get alone. You know, let me pull up
the quote. It's it's really good. There you go. His
His quote about taxes is actually quite funny too. Every
American has the god given right to evade taxes if
he can get away with it. No citizen has a
moral obligation to assist in maintaining his own government unless
by choice.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty pretty interesting guy. I don't care how
much money a man has or how much credit. He
can have all of the silver in Christendom and he
won't get a dollar from me. I'm sorry, he can
have all the collateral in Christendom and he won't get
a dollar from me. And the reporter goes, really not
if he had all the collateral in the world, all
the money in the world, and he goes, no, sir.
The first thing is honoring. The second thing is character,
and he believed it. Everybody he dealt with right was
basically on a handshake deal like there were contracts and
for stock issuances and legal things, right, that had to
be done, but so much of I guess you can
call it Pierpont's diplomacy was done entirely on reputation. So
to him that was enough. And this is really the
problem he had with a certain group of people that
kept on trying to barge their way into American finance,
particularly one group of them that were financed by a
certain banking interest that tried desperately to get in and
were relegated to stocks. Right, So being a stockbroker was
not glamorous at all. Right, So being a stockbroker would
be what we would have as an equivalent as like
people that trade crypto, right, Like that's where sketchy people go. Right,
That's like you know, that's fly by night shift. Right.
This is why the termed speculator is an insult, right, like, oh,
you know, these people don't care about anything, They're just speculators.
That was basically how it was viewed. Right. Banking was separate,
Banking was legacy based, right, and the wasps desperately by
to the last defended banking. Right. So banking in America
was something that you had, your family had to be
in the country for eight hundred years or more to
even get an apprenticeship in like, you couldn't even be
a courier. They were super, super strict about it because
they viewed it as they viewed finance, high finance, as
you know, the aristocracy. That was the barrier. You either
became a captain of industry, right, or you became a
partner at one of these firms. And back in the day,
it wasn't like it is now with corporations. These were
all partnerships, right. So the only thing that operates similarly
today is law firms. Right, So making partner is like,
you know, you have made it right, it will If
you make partner at a shitty firm, then you haven't, right.
But if you are like, you know, I'm trying to think,
what's what's a I can't believe I'm blinking there's a
you know, any one of the top twenty law firms
in the country. If you make a partner at any
one of those, you're set for life because now you
get a share of all the money that that firm makes, right,
Like you basically get a stipend for life. And that's
how it was in banking. So being made a partner
was like being knighted in America. And this is why,
almost to a man, the lost aristocracy was in so
Berner Lambert or Brown Brothers or Morgan and Company. Right,
a partner in any one of those banks could pick
up the phone and get any senator on the line
whenever you wanted to, right, like you were somebody at
that point. Unfortunately it's not the same today, but I've
lost my train of Oh yes, yeah, i am JP
Morgan's Super Chad Adventures. So not a lot of people
will know this, but the United States, Well, one of
the reasons that the United States has the reputation it
has around its currency, right, everyone thinks that, oh, the
dollar is the world reserve currency and is the number
one currency of the world because of the US military,
and if you don't use it will just come fuck
you up. Like that's true in the most extreme means sense.
But that's not why people want to use it, right,
It's not like we're forcing everybody to get their money
into dollars. Literally, you can. The one thing that you
will notice about any impoverised country that you get into,
they like if you give them a dollar, like that
shit is getting stuffed in their mattress. They view that dollar,
you know, like it is made of gold. Right, So
like the thing in Russia, the thing in China, like
people hoard physical American currency like their gold bars, because
it basically is. And the reason I say that is
because the United States of America is the only country
in the history of the world that is never called
in its currency. What that means is, I mean like
England did this recently, Europe has done this. The EU
has been alive for a whopping you know, thirty years,
is already to do it twice. France is fucking notorious
for the shit, right, Like they will call in all
of their notes and destroy them and issue you out
new notes. Right, it's basically, you know, it's currency default.
And the United States is the only nation in the
history of the world to never have recalled its currency.
There are even countries, you know, in the Middle Ages
that had gold coins that would have to recall their currency.
And you can dig a dollar out of the fucking
ground in your backyard from seventeen ninety nine and walk
into a grocery store and buy something with it. Not
that you could want to, but you could, right, It's
also why America has never actually defaulted on its debt.
It's come close twice, and technically it's come close three times,
but people don't know about the third time. It's also
why they don't know how fucking Chadji p fucking Morgan is,
but it's never actually done it. So America is the
world's reserve currency because we are the most dependable when
it comes to money. And it's that dependability knowing that
it's always going to be there and one hundred or
two hundred, three hundred years from now, like that dollar
you dug out of your backyard. That is why people
all over the world scramble to get their hands on
physical dollars. And you don't need to hold the gun
to their head. Doesn't matter how many fucking missiles or
aircraft carriers that you have, they're going to do it
all themselves. And in eighteen ninety America was on the
verge of going bankrupt, like it was happening. If nothing
was done, and nothing could be done from inside the government,
America was going to be bankrupt in less than six months.
And what John Pierpont Morgan did was bail the entire
country out himself, he put every single thing he owned,
every share of stop everything. He would have been homeless, literally,
And the guy had like fucking twelve homes and the
first yacht, like the first mega yacht, the Corsair, would
have been gone to. He leveraged every single thing he had,
and he still didn't have enough. He was twelve percent short. Right,
Why was he doing it in the first place, Well,
because he believed it was his duty to do so
as a member of the unofficial aristocracy of America. These
men believed that they had a duty to the nation.
And so how he got that other twelve percent is
really interesting because there was a whole bunch of people
that at this point in time had made a fortune
trading stocks, you know those people, and those people didn't
want to chip in a fucking dollar. So upon held
a mostage. He lured them all, all the all the
Saturday people bankers onto his yacht, the Corsair for lunch,
and they're going to do a cruise around New York Harbor.
But shortly after they pulled off, they didn't go anywhere
near the harbor. They just went straight out into the ocean,
and about two hours later, now land, very very very
far away. Pierpont comes upstairs from a stateroom and says,
all right, one of two things is going to happen.
Option A is you, gentlemen, are going to voluntarily come
up between the you know the point, there's six of them.
The six of you are going to come up with
the other twelve percent to bail out the United States
alongside my ninety percent or sorry, like eighty eight percent.
And if you don't want to do that, all of
my money is liquid right now, having collateralized everything that
I own, right, basically borrowing against everything that he owned,
which he reminded them, right, these margin loans were extended
by the brokerage firms that were sitting around the table
from him at that very moment. So he was like,
all right, guys, I've leveraged everything I own, and you
guys have been nice enough to extend me, right, several
multiples on that in credit. So if you don't help
me bail out the United States government, I will take
my three x net worth it's all liquid, right, and
I will have the captain radio my man on the shore,
who will in turn tell my man at the stock
exchange to begin shorting your stocks. And I will have
bankrupted every single one of you by the time you
ever get into port to warn anybody about it. And yes,
the country will go out of business, will go bankrupt,
and so will all of you. But I'll have no
one to pay these margin loans back to because you'll
all be out of business. And then I'll make all
that money shorten your stock all the way down to zero.
So I'm going to get my money to bail out
the government. One way or the other. It's either whether
you want to cooperate with me or you want to
be put out of business by me, and then me
taking that money from putting you out of business and
using that to bail out the government and having to
put up none of my own And what do you know,
all of a sudden, a bunch of immigrants got real patriotic,
real fucking quick. And that's why the US has never
defaulted on its debt. Thanks du the ego Batman, JP Morgan, Chase,
I'm sorry, JP Morgan and his company, JP Morgan, and Kevin.
Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, somebody's gonna jump somebody's going to jump in
and say you know he he was one of the
planners of the of the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 2: Things like, the Federal Reserve is actually a brilliant system
if you keep the currency pegged to gold. The Federal
reserve system was built to stop what arguably has caused
every single financial crash we've had. The Federal Reserve wasn't
supposed to be omnipoted. It was supposed to be feudal
in nature. Right now, the Federal Reserve is a monolith.
The New York Fed and all of the other little
tiny feds are a joke. It may as well just
be the New York Fed and one interest rate for
the whole country. Well, that's not how it was laid out.
A farmer in Iowa was never ever supposed to be
paying the same interest as a stockbroker in Wall Street.
It became that way after FDR. So the Federal Reserve
system that everyone and every stupid libertarian has been trained
to hate worked an awful lot like how one Frederick
List imagined such an institution working. Right, It's not supposed
to be monolithic. It was supposed to be decentralized and
offered decentralized interest rates. The only reason you've had the
catastrophes we've had is because you're forcing a farmer in
Iowa to pay the same cost of capital as a
stockbroker in New York City. But there's a lot of
things that Roosevelt destroyed. And this fascist coup, which we'll
get into next time, that was, you know, ruined by
one communist general that everyone loves to lionize as a
stupid faggot book. War is a racket. Now, it's not
a racket, you, this is this is it's communist logic again.
All right, we adopt the left. The left framing has
been embedded so deeply into our paradigms that even though
we think ourselves right wingers, we mouth their platitudes. War
has nothing to do with money making. If money is
made during war, okay, all right, but that's not what
drives men to war, has nothing to do with it.
This is like that Rothschild's are omnipotent type fucking people.
Same thing, all right. Politicians drag people to war, not bnkers.
And you'll also be surprised that the number one plank
of this fascist takeover, and also of America First, which
was bankrolled in its entirety by Jack Morgan, by Henry Ford,
by the DuPont family, and by our good, good friends
the Rockefellers. The number one issue was keeping America on
the gold standard. And why would a bunch of evil bankers,
if they're so evil, be campaigning to keep us on
the gold standard? Why would if everything that you believed
is true about JP Morgan, about the Federal Reserve and
about all that, you would think that would be the
last thing that they would want, right, because yeah, you know,
Federal Reserve. And then we got FIOX mommies, and they
took the gold away? Who took the gold away? Who
did it? FDR? Did the fucking class Trader FDR? The
entire New Deal, these guys viewed as a slow role
communist takeover and purging of the power base of the
wasp class. Let's look at what came out of the
New Deal government in rapid secession. The first term was
the sec Act and Glass Steegel. I'm not going to
go into the intricacies of the banking business and what
the banking business was at the time, but if you
know that the lost aristocracy was the American banking industry,
then you, like them, saw this as a direct attack
against their class. All that whole war is a racket,
and that whole money trust bullshit was actually, in typical fashion,
created in its entirety by one Randolph Hurst. And who
was that lovely gentleman that paid off all of Winston
Churchill's debts? Bernard Baruke? Who was Bernard Baruke a representative
of roth Child and Company. So the guys that put
the New Dealers into power roughly at the exact same
time as they were pulling off a communist revolution in Russia.
The very first thing that these men did once they
gotten if you can call them that, once they got
into power, was attacked the wasp aristocracy. In fact, the
biggest critics of FDR were the Roosevelt family. Like the
level of class trader and family trader that FDR is
is barely understood, and like who are these these men? Right? You?
And I got into a Twitter argument recently with a
I guess a pastor. I guess he is a preacher
of the dispensationalist kind. And you threw an insult data
that I didn't understand, but it seemed that it really
pissed him off. About the high church and low church?
Are we talking about like pop up churches like these
you know kind of like they look like Walmart supercenters, almost.
Speaker 1: Empty space next to the circle. K yea that kind
of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So not those churches, the churches that
are actually built of like granite, you know, in bricks,
the permanent churches, the ones that look like fucking churches
and cathedrals. Three quarters of those churches across the country
were built by John D. Rockefeller because he felt it
was his duty. All of those, Literally every public library
in the fucking country was built by Andrew Carnegie. The
reason that the reason that life sucks to the way
it does today in the particular way that it does,
is because these men have been erased, right, we know,
only they're bad. They're demonized, just like Uncle A is demonized,
and their stories have been erased. So these men had
nothing but history to turn to. Right. There was no
existing aristocracy that taught these men how to be noble.
I mean, what was in England that the you know,
the eighteen hundreds was a joke, especially the latter half
the eighteen hundreds of joke. So these men turned to
history books, right, and they modeled themselves and their families
off of the nobility. You know, that made the nobility
famous and the reason why our elites today, right, why
are Elon Musks, why are Jeff Bezos's. We'll forget the
fucking Jewish billionaires. I'm not talking about them. The reason
they don't act like these men is because they don't
know these men existed outside of just you know, the schibbalits.
You're allowed, all right. Elon Musk is never going to
be like JP Morgan because if you were to tell
him that he's being like JP Morgan, he'd probably be
He'd probably think you are insulting him. Right, Like everything
Elon Musk does cool, he's doing great stuff, but he's
also doing business. Oh he's sending them, you know, people
to space. Yeah, but he's also doing that because he
wants people himself to go into space. John D. Rockefeller
didn't build two thousand churches, real churches for any other reason.
Then he felt that it was his duty. Andrew Carnegie
didn't build every fucking public library in this country because
he thought Americans should read good because he thought it
was his duty. That that wealth came with a debt
that he owed it to someone. The reason that Grand
Central Station is probably one of the years and years
and years and years went into the designing of the
acoustics of Grand Central Station. And there are places in
Grand Central Station where you can stand in a corner
Grants Pete, you've been to Grant Under Station. It's pretty
fucking big, right.
Speaker 1: Many times, it's enormous, And yeah, I've done what you're
talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can go into one Pe can go
into one side of Grand Central Station, and I can
go into the other side, and I can whisper. I
can stand in a corner and I can whisper. And
if Pete is also standing in the corner, even though
he's on the other side of the fucking place, he
can hear every word I'm saying, like it like I'm
standing right next to even though there's fucking hundreds of
thousands of people marching through that place at the same
time making a fuck ton of noise. Right, just the
acoustic properties makes that building one of the most impressive
buildings made in the last two hundred years. And not
to mention Pete, for those of the listeners that haven't
been to Grand Central Station, is Grand Central Station beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's you know, it's one of those things
that stupid people. Okay, let's say one of those people,
one of those things that uncultured people will be like, oh,
why do you even build something like this? Well, there's
a reason you build something like that. It's the same
reason that you build know that you build these gigantic churches.
You see these churches in Europe that are stretched to
the sky and they take people's breath away. Because some
people love God and who and one who glorify him,
and others hate you. And that's the difference. That's the
difference between architecture today and architecture in the past.
Speaker 2: The people that built Grand Central Station not only had
their train car, their own train cars, but they had
their own station. Outside of christening the building, they never
walked inside of it again. They wanted it that way.
They wanted it to be beautiful because they thought Americans,
while commuting all over the country, deserved to be in
a place that was beautiful. And Elon Musk and Mark Andriesen,
as much good as these men are doing Peter Field's doing,
I don't see them doing that. I don't see anybody
any of our mega billionaires doing that, because none of
our mega billionaires think it's their duty. Cool. You get
to go to space because I want to go to space,
all right, so you get to you know, hitch a
ride on. They're already selfish pursuits. They're cool pursuits, don't
get me wrong. But these men didn't operate that way.
Every single orphanage in New England was bankworld in its
entirety by either a church, which did the Catholic ones,
but all of the Protestant ones were bankworld by one
of these men, through whatever that local church was. Pierpont
Morgan gave the equivalent of seventy million dollars a year
just to the orphanages. The reason that we have beautiful
concert halls is because these men build them, only maybe
going inside once a year. The reason that we have
beautiful art museums was because these men build them. The
reason we have beautiful museums period, like the Metropolitan Museum
is beautiful. It's one of the most beautiful buildings in
New York City, and these guys built it for free,
out of their pocket for you to enjoy, because they
felt it was their duty. And how did a bunch
of bankers get involved in a veterans movement after World
War One? Well, because it was their duty. Every I
don't know how to describe the level of shame that
a family would have if all of their sons of
age did not go fight in whatever fight that America
was in. And I'm not talking about like what George W.
Bush did going out in the Air National Guard, right,
like one third of the class of Harvard and Yale
in Princeton got wiped the fuck out. None of those men,
None of those young men would have had to fight
if they didn't want to. Every single one of them
could have called their senator that their dad put into
office and gotten them a commission, like FDR did. Right.
FDR was a figure just like George W. Bush doing
the Air National Guard routine. Right. America's air force in
World War One was the Aviation Club of Yale, Harvard
and Princeton as in like aviation was in its earliest,
earliest days and was basically I don't know, like not
like a fad, but it was the cool and exciting
thing to do, right if you were a young man.
This is the second in command at JP Morton and Company.
I'm trying to remember his name, but his son became
a paraplegic because he was in the aviation club and
they were doing an air show, and the rear of
planes at that time usually had two motors, one in
the front, one in the back, and the motor in
the back came loose and struck this young man in
the head and he was paralyzed from the waist down.
He still went on to be a you know, a
fucking chad. Right. But if you were a young man
of privilege, you were into racing cars or flying planes.
And the air force that America had in World War
One were these men leaving school, right, they took they
you know, took a year off for two years off,
however many years they needed off like they were in university, right,
and temporarily dropped out and donated their planes to the
American government and their bodies. And I think something like
twenty percent came home. Maybe. I don't see anybody, any
any senator son going to fight today. I don't see
any of Bill Gates's kids. He's got a bunch, he's
got five. I don't see any of these people that
think that they're aristocrats. They think they are America's aristocracy,
right because of money. I don't see any of them
sending their kids to fight in any of America's wars.
It's kind of a joke that we all say, like
happened to Dick Changey's kids?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: How come none of these warmongers are sending their sons.
And the reason that America is in as many wars
as it is in is because precisely that this class
of people were disenfranchised. They were the casualty of the
New Deal Government. The New Deal Government was basically an
attempt by Jews and by very willing participants and co
conspirators in the English financial industry right, and they were
specifically targeted.
Speaker 3: At.
Speaker 2: Bernard Baruke and Randall Hurst concocted one of like the
first really good psyops called the money Trust scandal, and
it wasn't a scandal at all. It was entirely a
media creation. And these great men were dragged in front
of Congress and harang again and again and again by
two Jewish congressmen who both turned out later to be
members of the Communist Party, and the person bankrolling them
and the person providing the air cover in the press,
one Bernard Garup, the man who's largely responsible not only
for Winston Churchill, what happened in Germany in the Second
World War. Right, but the the first attack on the
Anglo American aristocracy all because we wouldn't let them in
the banking industry, all right, Like John John Morgan's number
one rival in the world was Yaka Rothschild. He sent
Rothschild said, four separate different proxies, one of them John
Belmond and Pierpont sent them back penniless each and every time.
And it wasn't until they saw their success with the
communist movement or the Bolsheviks did they really start getting
politically aggressive. And everybody remembers, well some of you may remember,
not remember, some of you may have come across it
in history. Maybe you've talked about this, but the anarchist
bombings and the communist bombings in America turn the century.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the Haymarket affair and things like that.
Speaker 2: One of the biggest bombs by a communist of pale
settlement descent. Actually, all of the bombs in New York
we're all set off on Wall Street, and all, funny enough,
happened to be in front of one bank, Morgan and Company.
So all of the communists, you know that we're going
to bring down the evil capitalists all just wanted to
bring down one specific capitalist, so much so that after
the bombs didn't work, this is when. This is during
the lead up to the coup attempt. All right, this
is I think twenty nine, twenty eight. But a communist
armed with two pistols shot the gate guard at Jack
Morgan's home and shot the butler that answered the door,
and rounded up Jack's wife and two daughters the sons
were away at school, and brought them into a back
room he's by the By this time, Jack Morgan figured
out what was happening. He was in the study and
ran up to the back bedroom where this man was
hiding with his two children and his wife, and he
said that he just wanted, you know, to talk to
him to get basically, to get America to stop being
mean to the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is nice. This is nineteen twenty so, yeah,
this is all happening in nineteen twenty East Side turn
of the century, and it had Haymarket was thirty years
before that, so we're around nineteen twenty now. Just for.
Speaker 2: Just everyone knows the JP. You can go to twenty
one Wall Street and see the JP Morgan building, and
they refuse to the building from the bomb, so there
is like you can literally see chunks taken out of
the building from basically paving stones that were broken apart
and turned into projectiles. It killed five people at JP Morgan. Yeah,
this was in the twenties, let me check. And he
was twenty eight Wall Street bombing yep, nineteen twenty And
I was a good guest, Pete. That was a good guess.
But yeah, this gentleman said that he just wanted to
talk and that mister Morgan was able to make the
American government do whatever he wanted, so he was gonna
basically do diplomacy by hostage, and Jack rushed him, beat
the man into a coma while taking two revolver shots
in one into the stomach and one into the inside
of his thigh. Almost died. But the good thing about
being rich is you have a doctor that usually either
lives in your property or or close by.
Speaker 1: And this happened in nineteen fifteen July third. Yes, I'm
looking that up right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, And the gentleman that did it, I believe correctly
if I'm wrong, was a crypto.
Speaker 1: His name was Eric Muneer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he was under three different names. Yeah, teaching
at Harvard as a professor for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, graduated University of Chicago, University of Kansas, began teaching
as an instructor at Harvard University, where he was a
doctoral student. Yeah. Yeah, now it was. He was a
quote unquote German saboteur who went under the name Frank Holt.
Speaker 4: Hello, my fellows, You know he was a jack. Was
a big dude, all right, he was. He was six two.
Speaker 2: Actually, both Morgan's were six three and six two, right,
so they were not small dudes. But yeah, so only
which is funny enough because you had what's his name?
How am I gonna? I can't believe I'm blanking. He
was the guy that funded a majority of the communist
the Bolshevik revolution.
Speaker 1: Like blanking, and his name Jacob Shift.
Speaker 2: Jacob Shift. There you go, Shift and company. Jacob Shift
lived right next door.
Speaker 1: Oh it's actually it's actually Shift, just like the shift
that we the perma bear shift that we have to
deal with today.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're related.
Speaker 1: I'll look that up real quick. Keep going.
Speaker 2: That would be very very interesting to know. And for
those of you who don't know what we are talking about.
The Communist Revolution was funded in its entirety by two people,
yaka broth Child and mister Jacob Shift. And if we
use issue you that that educated me on this. But
a majority of the Bolsheviks we're actually from, like Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Well, when when tried to Ski left New York, he
got on a boat and I think he had thirty
They had thirty men with him. Someone fact checked me
on that. I'm sure somebody will. They always do, and
they were. They all made it to Russia. They and
they were all yes, of a certain tribe.
Speaker 2: That's really funny. And Trotsky got curricic wrong. But Trotsky
got stopped in Canada by a Canadian.
Speaker 1: Yep, and because of you know who controlled the crown
at the time, he was released and let go.
Speaker 2: Yep with one hundred thousand he was he was apprehended
with a hundred thousand dollars in cash.
Speaker 1: YEP. I also think he had I think he had
I think he had diamonds too.
Speaker 2: Oh, what is what was that? Nineteen ten? So what
is that one hundred thousand?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rather interesting when you start really getting into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically he had the equivalent of three and
a half million dollars on his person. And the Bolsheviks
didn't come to power through revolutionary prowess. They're actually in
probably disorganized, a bunch of fucking retards. But with that
one hundred thousand dollars, they bought every single newspaper in
Russia or in Moscow, and that's really where any communist
clout came from.
Speaker 1: And so when well, by the way, just to just
to clear this up, Peter Schiff is not related to
Jacob Shift. Oh, Jacob Shift's dad, Peter Shift's dad Irwin Shift.
Irwin Shift, who was a tax protester who died in
prison in two thousand and fifteen. His parents emigrated here
from Poland around nineteen thirty.
Speaker 2: So okay, oh, thanks, I'm so glad they joined us.
So I'm so glad they came came to America. That's funny.
So in Trotsky's memoirs he talks about his exile from
Russia the first time, right, So, Lennon and Trotsky were
both rounded up by the O Stya is that how
I'm saying? Am I saying quickly?
Speaker 1: I think that's how it's pronounced. I'm terrible, and I
think anyone who's listened to my readings, So I'm terrible
at pronouncing foreign words.
Speaker 2: Same same. So they got rounded up and thrown out
of Russia once and then they were basically air dropped
in a second time, which is the time that Pete
and I are talking about. But there was a space
of about eight years in between those two, right, and
where these guys they chose to hang out in Germany
briefly got booted out of Germany, and then they went
to Switzerland for a little bit, got booted out of Switzerland,
and after that they kind of go dark for like
five years. And then Trotsky's memoirs, I think it's also
in Lenin's too, But Lenin spent those five years in
a villa in the south of France. You know, it
was villa that was.
Speaker 1: Please tell everyone it.
Speaker 2: Was Lord Yak of Rothchilds and and Trotsky in his
memoirs talks about his time in Newport, Rhode Island, staying
at what he called the Magician's house, and the magician
would take him around him and his daughters in for
automobile rise all over the city, all over you know, Providence,
and then also to the Magician's house in Long island
and the magician would go, you know, into the city.
And Trotsky says, he's like the magician controlled all the
wheels of finance and capital, and you know, with his
with a move of his hand, all.
Speaker 5: The wheels of industry would move one way, and with
another wheel of his hand or another wave of his hand,
all the wheels of capital would move the other way,
you know, And basically described this man as like a
magician slash chauffeur that would drive him and his daughters
around places.
Speaker 2: That man was Jacob Shift. So the reason nobody could
find these communist stumbags is because arguably the you know,
three of the top five were just men on the
planet that were not royalty of some sight, of some respects.
We're hiding them to use later as a weapon, right,
just like the just like the New Dealers were used
as a weapon against a similar entrenched aristocracy that they
wanted removed. And Roosevelt was really a compromise all right,
Like I said, including his own family, nobody suspected what
FDR would become, what he would do. Like the Roosevelt family,
they weren't in banking that much. But if you go
back and look at the newspapers of the time. Hold on, cat,
what do you want? Showed him whose boss?
Speaker 1: Your cat makes a lot of appearances on podcasts.
Speaker 2: I completely forgot where we were.
Speaker 1: Trotsky three three men uh Trotsky was put They were
basically put on a shelf to be used later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as weapons, just like the Progressives were used as
we were not the Progressives. The New Dealers were used
as weapons against an entrenched arisocracy. If you would like
all of the all of the all the legislation that
came out of the New Deals, the New Dealer's first terms,
it is an attack. Like there's it's very hard to
see it any other way.
Speaker 6: And if you look at who was doing it all right,
because he needed help in Congress, it was the same
Saturday folks that were dragging Jack and his dad before
his dad passed in front of Congress for hearing after
hearing about the fake money trust scandal.
Speaker 2: It was Randolph Hurst. And actually here, let me let
me find out the commission I'll get it to you
after the show. What the congressman's name was. It was
two of them that were in the committee. Oh and yes,
I remember it was a young Lewis Brandeis ice.
Speaker 1: Huh, that's huh, what do what church? He wants to.
Speaker 2: Something of Satan? I think Lewis Brandeis would communicate with FDR.
And the only place that I've really found this mentioned
is both in the Dearborn Independent and in the Morgan
Library and in some of the some of the what
it's called it the memoirs or biographies of uh the
John Foster Dulls and shit. I won't Anyways, this was
kind of like an open secret that Lewis Brandeis was
giving basically marching orders through messenger his.
Speaker 7: Daughter, who all right, let me see them pull it
up Lewis Brandeis, Wow, how does like how is their
daughter like nowhere in.
Speaker 1: Here Susan and Susan or Elizabeth?
Speaker 2: I believe it was Susan. Can you see what they're
married to?
Speaker 1: I will check right now.
Speaker 2: One of them is going to be married to a
very important new.
Speaker 1: Dealer, Susan Brandeis Gilbert. Oh wait a minute, all that
Susan Brandy Jacob Gilbert Elizabeth Brandeye Joseph Jacob Jacob H.
Speaker 3: Gilbert, American lawyer who served six terms of this as
a US senator or sorry, a US House of Representative Member.
Speaker 2: Jacob H. Gilbert. Hey, this guy served six terms in Congress,
and I said he was a big deal in the
New Dealers and William Brandeis. We scrolled over here. In
eighteen ninety, brand Ice began to question his views on
American industrialism. He became aware of the growing number of
giant companies which were capable of dominating whole industries, and
he began to lose faith in the whole American capitalist
economic system, right, and its ability to regulate, and it's
sorry and its need to be regulated for the public's welfare.
As a result, he denounced cutthroat competition and worried about monopolies.
He also became concerned about the plight of workers and
was very sympathetic to the labor movement. Well, really, crusader
for justice. I'm gonna have to look at that later.
His earlier battles had convinced him that concentrated economic power
could have a negative effect on a free society. Wow. Yeah,
so Brandeis was then in the Supreme Court. They had
four or five Yeah, the Money Trust. They had four
or five guys in prominent positions in the Congress, And
I can't remember who the senators were. But if you
got the president, you got the Supreme Court, and you
got the Senate. Brandeis was often referred to by the
people as the people's lawyer. That's funny because all of
the references for that are for press publications owned by
one mister Hurst.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it was called the Puho Committee p u
j oh committee, yep, named after our sen Pauline poo
Poojo for Louisiana. Oh. Why does this guy's name always
come up? Samuel Intermyer?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what else? Samuel inter Myers responsible for what
the Schofield Bible?
Speaker 2: No, keep the fuck attitude?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes, Then there was Hubert D. Stevens of Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you just go, if you just google Samuel Undermeyer,
pull up his Wikipedia page, there is a whole bunch
of political caricatures of mister J. P. Morgan.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Wow, he went after every single Wow.
Speaker 1: Oh. And in case anybody was wondering what the early
life is on mister Untermeyer, it's what you think, yep.
Speaker 2: And what he never talks about is who his law
firms clients were. M he was later after World War One,
he became a top advisor. Why is a lawyer and
advisor to the Treasury Department. He's responsible for the income
dex It's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Corporate lawyer, advocate of stock market regulation, government ownership of railroads,
various legal legal reforms, and he was an exponent of
the progressive era. He became an advocate of stock market regulations,
government ownership of railroads, and various legal reforms. He was
also the first attorney to own a million dollars, to
earn a million dollars on a single case.
Speaker 2: I bet he was. Untermeyer also identified early as a
Zionist and served as president of the Karen Hassad the
agency which the movement was then and is still conducted
in America. How have I not heard about this? K
R E n ha y E sod the Agent. In
nineteen thirty three, he founded the Non Sectarian Anti zion
or Anti Nazi League. In nineteen thirty three, Oh, I wonder.
Speaker 8: What the The Non Sectarian Anti Nazi League changed its
mission to directly investigate right wing propaganda groups, amongst them
were the Christian Front of Father Coughlin. Non Sectarian Anti
Nazi League its mission was to directly investigate right wing
propaganda groups. Among them were the Christian Front of Father Coughlin,
the Christian Mobilizers of Joseph mcwilliam's going to check that out,
the America First Party, and this group. This anti Nazi
League also began to support the civil rights movement.
Speaker 1: We are so shocked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it filed its first lawsuit in nineteen forty
five against Columbia University to have its tax exempt status
revoked for discriminating against who.
Speaker 1: Jews, which was really interesting because that's where his son
graduated it from.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't doubt it. It was also instrumental in shutting
down kit based groups in Atlanta, Georgia, by hiring Stetson
Kennedy William Stetson Kennedy to infiltrate these groups. The League
continued its investigation to expose activities throughout the nineteen fifties,
providing the FBI with intelligence about such right wing neo
Nazi groups as National Resistance Party. Oh, wasn't that the party.
Speaker 1: That's National Renaissance Party, Sorry, National Renaissance Party, Yeah, yeah,
Kurt Medick Murdick, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also isn't it the one that what's his name?
Speaker 1: The painter Rockwell George Lincoln Rockwell, I'm not sure that
he had. I'm not sure he had any things to
do with this. I will look though. Yep. Well, it
says the party also endorsed standard racist ideas. As a
it maintained ties with other groups including George Lincoln Rockwalls
American Nazi Party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out this organization, the non secular, the
non sectarian Anti Zionist League, when it shut down was right.
It seems to not get shut down at all, but
folded into the ADL. I guess that's where they kept
their really tight relationship with the FBI. Wow, we're doing
research live.
Speaker 1: Listen to this one. The National Renaissance, which, unlike its
political activities in New York, was widely influential in right
wing circles. In the early nineteen fifties, h Keith Thompson
and Frederick Weiss subsidized a larger than usual print run
of an issue of the magazine containding an s say
by Francis Parker Yaki entitled what is behind the Hanging
of the Eleven Jews in Prague? On the Prague Show
trials of Rudolph Slansky and ten other Jewish members of
the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, which Yaki had attended. Eustace Mullins,
who Martin A. Lee called the NRP, self proclaimed expert
on the US Federal Reserve, published his notorious article Adolf
Hitler an appreciation in the Journal as well. They were
investigated by HUAC for possible prosecution under the Smith Act,
and no additional action was taken.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess that's what happens when communists try and
bring something to fucking Joseph McCarthy probably not going to
look into it. God. Yeah, the Lewis Dimabits, the uh,
the gentleman that that married Brandie's daughters. Yeah, it turns
out he started the can started the conservative Judaism movement.
Speaker 1: Oh well that I mean, that's just to teach us
good Judeo Judeo Christian values. Right, yep.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so fucking funny all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's amazing once you started digging deep
into into this, how all of it's connected.
Speaker 2: Yep. Wow. So the the wife or sorry, the husband
of Lewis brandeis I'm sorry, the husband of the daughter
of Lewis brandeis the guy who is a courier for
mister Brandeis into the Roosevelt administration, then goes and gets
extremely active in conservative politics afterwards.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that was. I'm sure it was. I'm
sure he was one probably into the building.
Speaker 3: This is unreal.
Speaker 2: I didn't even I didn't even know that part all right.
Like Lewis Brandeis made his career off of going after
John Pierpont Morgan and the Morgan family and the Rockefeller
family and the DuPont family. And it seems that his
progeny was, you know, after they crushed the real American
right wing, they they inserted themselves into conservative politics at
the same time as they're driving left wing politics.
Speaker 9: It's almost like they are they're doing something. Yeah, you
could do a whole show on just Lewis Brandeis.
Speaker 1: Oh one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, DEM's versus Understance. Wow, dude, this guy is unreal
do it.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to watch. I guess it's amazing to watch
us do research in real time. Huh.
Speaker 2: His final years of his career, like the rest of
the court, he initially imaned.
Speaker 1: The tom Tomorrow was respond for like getting like Moody
Moody Bible College to pushing that Moody Bible College would
take and start using the the Schofield study bubble, And
you have to wonder, why would why would you be
so interested in that? I wonder.
Speaker 2: And the entire time as this dude is passing messages
to FDR, he is openly saying that he's against the
New Dealers. Wasn't Lewis Brandeis wasn't yet Lewis Brandeis was
the guy right that leaned on FDR to get who
is that crazy secretary of State that he put in
there that wanted to basically genocide all the Germans.
Speaker 1: Oh Morganthau Henry Morgan, yep.
Speaker 2: Wow, Henry Morgan that came out of the same fucking
law firm. I mean wow, all at the same time
they kill I mean, I got a credit where credit
is due. This is impressive. Right, They're taking over the left,
They're completely disenfranchising and shape and like a like a
face hugger taking over the American right. At the same
time as I bet your father Coughlin scared the shit
out of them.
Speaker 1: Oh, you want to hear something even something that I'm
finding here on the Polish Show committee. Okay, So the
resolution that was picked up by Congressman pul show was
introduced for a probe of Wall Street power by Charles
Lindbergh sor can you imagine that he probably did this
thinking there might be a problem here, we need to
we need to investigate it. Then all of these people
take it, run with his idea and just take it
to destroy you know, you know these men who are
trying to keep America a certain way. And do you
think maybe he learned by that and he taught his
son maybe, or maybe his son learned something by that.
Speaker 2: I think so. And funny enough, it was actually not
a lot of people know this, but I heard Thomas
say at once on your show that that the bankers
and industrialists they didn't actually want war. They didn't like
go start wars for money, right, And there's a lot
of truth to that because in them Morgan archives, right,
they basically commune indicated a lot of bankers did this
like Rothchild had their own secret code. Everybody had their
own secret code. So only until very recently did a
lot of these banks open up their archives. Right, they
were obsessive about saving correspondents. But in the archives here,
let me pull it up in lawn News, tu yeah. Wow.
So in the run up to World War One, William
Randolph Hearst and his best as friends in the papers
right after they got In the run up to World
War One, it was when all this money trust stuff
started and the Pugio Committee started, right, basically kind of
made it toxic to be associated with bost Wall Street politically.
But during World War One, right when it initially started,
it was actually Morgan and Company that tried to stop
World War One by clandestinely, by clandestinely trying to stop
the fighting between Turkey and the Baltic States in nineteen twelve, right,
the only really tool he had was to offer large
loans to both sides in exchange to agree to US
mediation to kind of catch the conflict when it was
in its early stages. Because war is terrible to banking, right, Like,
what banking wants is stability, right, Banking wants everything to
continue as you know it is going, especially when you're
banking at that level, when you're making huge loans to
like German industry, British industry, Like if you were a
big company like that's been in business as long as
Krupp has right, that has got a whole bunch of
government contracts and gate great government relationships. The same as
like a lot of the British arms companies or the
British shipping companies, those are very safe companies to to,
you know, to give loans to those countries. Those companies
are going to be able to pay them off. So
the idea of one nation full of companies.
Speaker 10: That you have that you lent money to trying to
blow up another country full of companies that you lent
money to, Like, how how does this benefit bankers?
Speaker 2: Like, yes, maybe they made some money in like the
U in investing in the US companies that we're making
arms and making other things. But these men already own
those fucking companies anyways. So they This clandestine diplomacy was
happening out of the same office in Paris, Morgan and
Hedges that will later come back to in the Businessman's
blot right, So it was run by the head of Morgan,
the head partner at Morgan and Hodges, and US Ambassador
to France Myron Herrick. And Myron got both of these
nations to sit down or both of their ambassadors to
sit down, while the Morgan and Hodges partner with a
letter from Pierpont. It was like, hey, here's a gigantic
loan that you guys don't really have to pay off
if you both, you know, just agree to us mediation.
And unfortunately they didn't bite. But there's no reason for
that to even have happened. If JP Morgan wanted fucking
World War One, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, anyways,
obviously they signed it the Brits once the war was covered,
but they were kind of forced to choose at that
point they had way more loans to England than they
did to Germany.
Speaker 1: I think this is right about the time we should
probably wrap up and prepare for part two.
Speaker 11: Yeah, then we'll get into the actual committee, because luckily enough,
the Senate did a investigatory committee into this attempted fascist coup,
so it leaves us with a lot of first hand evidence.
Speaker 2: So lucky us. It's the McCormack Committee mc ce O,
R M A C. K Committee for any of you
listeners at home that want to start digging into this
and have your fucking minds blown before Pete and I
am you know, blowed them in the next episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the looking it up right now and trying to
find trying to find a page on it. But the
Cormack Committee.
Speaker 12: Yep, the Cormack dick Stein commit All right, cool, yeah,
the dick Stein Committee. I wonder, let mean, let me
to early life. I'm mister dick Stein.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's not even I'm sure you don't even
have to do that.
Speaker 2: No, out of curiosity, I'm going to Wow. Yeah, I
Democratic congressman. He played a key role in establishing the
committee that became the Host Committee, which used which he
used to attack fascists and Nazi sympathizers. Wow, that's nice.
That's nice of him him and Alan Weinstein. That's great.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that'll be we can we put that
out there as a as a teaser for next time.
All right, well, I'll I'll make sure to link your
your Twitter in the in the notes and everything.
Speaker 2: He was He was a He was born to a
Jewish family of five children from Russia. His dad was
Rabbi Israel.
Speaker 1: Dickstine settled on the Lower East Side public and private schools. Yeah,
City College of New York. Yeah, the there is a
time when that was one of the only colleges that
Jews could get into in New York. So it was CCN.
Why yeah, CCN.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 1: The joke used to be that it was circumcised Citizens
of New York. That's what they call the college.
Speaker 2: Oh Man, back in a better time.
Speaker 13: But yeah, all right, I think I think this time
we will have a lot of fun, you know, talking
about that evil, evil Nazi coup that mister Dickstein luckily
put a stop to, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1: Oh Man. Yeah, John, And mister McCormack is he was
born in Boston, but his dad was a Canadian m
M yeah, yeah. Really loved to be very mick though.
They looked like the Irish. The Irish runs deep in
that family.
Speaker 2: So I have to I have to be honest. I
can't just blame blame the Hues for all this. It
was the It was the Irish that were kind of
like their men on the ground. You know, the problem
with organizing all of the workers of the world. They
don't mean like, you know, cubicle workers. They meant like,
you know, manual labor workers. Problem with you know, this
certain group of people trying to organize labor when they
themselves are allergic to labor, like, you know, fatally allergic
to labor. It was very difficult, you need help, and
the Irishmen were more than happy to be the uh
be the bridge into the labor that these certain people
were too good to do themselves. So I can't leave
the Irish out of it, you fucking mix or just
as guilty as the guilty immigrants. Yeah, you're all.
Speaker 1: Going back, suck. I guess I'm going back to Where
am I going? Where the hell am I going to?
Speaker 2: That? All? Right? Then this is all those people that
are like, oh, we'll just leave, Yeah, like just go
somewhere else, like give up on America?
Speaker 1: Where the fuck? Where the fuck? Yeah? It's like, you know,
you have this one group that has like their you know,
built their little place in the Middle East that they
can run to if things get bad. Where the fuck
do I go?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, my family's been here since one hundred more
than one hundred years since there was a United States
of Like, where am I.
Speaker 1: I actually have citizenship to another country if I if
I wanted to, I can reapply for it. I had
it at one time. It laps. I have to reapply.
I can get it, but I can't step foot in
that country because I've said stuff publicly. They could get
me thrown in jail in that country.
Speaker 2: Oh that that is quite the connunder the way of
at least getting your money out of the country is
taking a flight to Singapore. I highly recommend anybody that
is listening that has the means to do so, to
do it. Singapore is a very brilliant country that obviously
because it was you know, created by such a noble
man as a Leakwan You who. I think everyone that
is interested in politics needs to study Leakwan You. I
think he might actually be one of the most brilliant
political minds of the last sixty seven years. And he's
often overlooked a very race realist. But in Singapore they
are very smart. And all the Singapore bangs have branches
in the international terminal of the airport, so you could
fly to Singapore in like a layover somewhere else, right,
never even get your passport stamped. As far as anybody knows,
you were never even in Singapore. Right, the same way
as if like I have a layover in Germany, I
never leave the international terminal, right, I never went to Germany.
But tons of Singapore banks will happily set up accounts
for you in that international terminal. Most of them won't
even ask for docs. Find me another bank. Not only
is it the only banks, the only banks that ever
find an international terminal and airport, but they're also the
only ones that will take goal physical un deposit. So yeah,
if you can, if you can, if you ever want
to get your money out of the country, you can
do it right. And once you have that account set up,
you can wire from your account back home into it,
and once it goes in the US can't get it back.
So even though we can't go to jointy without getting
arrested or at least our money can go somewhere
Speaker 1: Else all right, well until until the next time, I frank,
you appreciate it, right, huh,