WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:10.119 Welcome to ouch. Was That a Ghost? This podcast may 2 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:15.720 contain graphic material which some listeners may find disturbing. Listener 3 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:27.399 discretion is advised. Is advised me? Now that we covered that, 4 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:31.760 here's your host list. 5 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:36.679 Welcome back out? Was That a Ghost? 6 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:42.679 With Liz and I'm Maddy, Maddy my co host It 7 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:43.479 creep it weird? 8 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:49.799 Yeah, keeping it down home, all down home, say you're 9 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:53.280 from the Midwest. About saying you're from the Midwest, I 10 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:55.439 can't believe those words just came out of my face. 11 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:57.880 I wanted to look up that ker you were talking 12 00:00:57.920 --> 00:00:58.880 about before, and I never did. 13 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:02.119 Is whish, isn't it? That is the best game ever. 14 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:03.200 It's way better than poker. 15 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:08.599 Well, Poker's kind of boring. I like Texas hold'em Ucher's better. 16 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:12.120 And I actually blew off a game tonight to do 17 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.959 a recording with you. Mike, if you're listening, This wasn't 18 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.159 your birthday game. This was the day after. That was 19 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:19.519 yesterday that I blew you off. 20 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.640 We were just letting all the one of the dirty lawns, 21 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:26.920 all the dirty laundr fly. 22 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:29.680 We're just empty in that hamper. 23 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:35.040 All right. So today I'm covering the Cottingly Fairies. Fairies 24 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:39.400 are supernatural beings from folklore, often depicted as magical, human 25 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:43.280 like creatures with extraordinary abilities and a close connection to 26 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:47.239 nature in the spirit world. Their origin story is derived 27 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:50.319 from mythology and folklore. They're said to exist between the 28 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:54.680 human and the spirit world or nature spirits. Some say 29 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.719 their remnants of races thought to be extinct. I am 30 00:01:57.799 --> 00:01:59.640 going to do a full episode on fairies one day, 31 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:01.640 but this is just for people that don't know what 32 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:02.079 fairies are. 33 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:03.120 I mean, you have to break it up. 34 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:04.280 There's there's too much. 35 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:08.400 There's so much information surrounding fairies that you would have 36 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:12.159 to break it down to like the classes of fairies. 37 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:14.599 Yeah, so I'm just saying this is not a full 38 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:19.039 faery episode. This is just about the Cottingly Fairies, Okay. 39 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:22.599 Cottingley is a village I've seen in the city of 40 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:25.919 Bradford district of Yorkshire, England, and some say it's a 41 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:28.759 village near the city of Bradford, so I'm not sure. 42 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.560 Their titles are so long. It's like in the village 43 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:34.759 of the Providence of. 44 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:39.159 The of the castle, beyond the tree line of this 45 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:41.639 behind that third row of grass. 46 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:44.199 But they sound so fancy when they say it. 47 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:48.319 I know it's the accent, is that it not that 48 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:51.560 say accent makes the accent makes everything sound fancy. 49 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.039 I feel like they should have a town crier giving 50 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:55.120 out everyone's address. 51 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.800 I'm sure they could say dirty butthole and it would 52 00:02:57.840 --> 00:02:59.120 still sound fancy. 53 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:03.719 Bloody, dirty butthole. That's a terrible I'm probably gonna. 54 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:05.159 Come So I okay. 55 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:09.639 I used to know a guy and literally I would 56 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.360 only talk to him because of his accent. 57 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.520 Oh, I've had that before and I'd be like. 58 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.879 Say this, say that and he would do it. I'm 59 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:20.639 like yeah, So I was like, that is awesome. They're 60 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.000 so funny when they cuss, it's fantastic. 61 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.000 And they're always mad. Yeah, but I know they're always 62 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:30.120 mad about everything. That's like it's Irish, Like with the Brogue, it's. 63 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:31.840 Like the opposite of Canada. 64 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:37.120 Anti Canada, always pissed of the world. But it's funny. 65 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:38.120 That's just it. 66 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:41.199 I think that's just their that's their baseline. I think 67 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:45.319 is just pissed. So I'm afraid to see him really pissed. Anyway, 68 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.280 there goes all the British listeners and Irish Yes. 69 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:49.039 Sorry, Britain. 70 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:52.800 So what we're gonna talk about today is probably one 71 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:57.159 of Cottingly's most well known events from that village, the 72 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:59.879 time that some young girls got photos of fairies. 73 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.800 I know a lady who has photos of fairies that 74 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:05.719 I've seen them and they are legit. 75 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:09.599 Oh really like legit. You zoom in, it's like it's 76 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:13.919 a little person in a ball of light. It is insane. 77 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:15.000 You gotta show them to me. 78 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.279 Well, I was at an event that I was at. 79 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:19.519 That's freaking awesome. 80 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:22.680 I'm sure I probably have her business cards somewhere. It's 81 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:23.480 pretty intense. 82 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.800 But it's widely believed that children, maybe because they're less 83 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:29.800 jaded by the world, or just being less skeptical overall, 84 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:32.519 or maybe because they're more in tune with their imagination 85 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.639 pre adult life. They don't have bills or guests like 86 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:40.439 you know, so they're thought to be more likely to 87 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.680 see fay are fairies than adults. So back in the 88 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:48.199 summer of nineteen seventeen, nine year old Francis Griffiths, her 89 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:50.519 father was away in the military, so Francis and her 90 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:54.879 mother moved in with her cousin's family and coddingly, do 91 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.240 you get that I got that like her and her mother, 92 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.279 the father was away, so they went to go stay 93 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:03.600 with her cousin and there Frances could play with her 94 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:07.959 sixteen year old cousin, Elsie. Right the two girls, even 95 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.959 though they had this big age gap, they became really 96 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.399 close played together often fast friends. You know. They enjoyed 97 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.480 playing behind the family garden down by the water. And 98 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.920 after a few times of coming back at dinnertime all 99 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:24.319 dirty or wet, the parents asked, like, why do you 100 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.079 keep going down there? And they replied because they were 101 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:31.120 playing with fairies. Okay, so the parents tease the kids 102 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:31.920 about the answer. 103 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:35.560 I'll say nowadays, when you say that, you gotta be careful. 104 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:40.399 Let's take a drive to the hospital. But they kept 105 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.199 going down by the water. One day, sixteen year old 106 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:46.040 Elsie asked her father if she could use his Midge 107 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:50.000 quarter plate camera to take some photos down there. He 108 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.279 said sure, and the girls went out for an hour 109 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.120 or so. When they returned to the house, Elsie with 110 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:58.959 photos ready to be developed, and her father went into 111 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.279 the dark room with the Because they didn't have one 112 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:03.360 hour photo back then, you know, you had to go 113 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:05.240 into an actual dark room and develop it. 114 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:07.480 Well, the folk just has a dark room chilling in 115 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:08.079 their house. 116 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.920 Well nineteen what was I say? Nineteen seventeen? 117 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.199 Still not everybody's got a dark room? 118 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:16.480 Not everyone. But if you have a camera, it's useless 119 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:18.360 unless you make a dark room. And you can make 120 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:20.279 a dark room in a closet you don't have. It's 121 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:21.839 not like a big thing. It's just a place so 122 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:24.959 it can stay dark enough so the photos can develop. Okay, 123 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:29.360 and then her father emerged with a developed photo. 124 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.759 Wait, who's father? 125 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.519 Because I thought the father was away Elsie's father. That's 126 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:38.560 the sixteen year old where uncle? Yeah, okay, hold on, 127 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:42.439 let me show you the first photo. So he emerged 128 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.279 with a photo. The photo is of Francis surrounded of 129 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.560 what looks like four dance and winged fairies. This is 130 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.480 the younger cousin that went to go stay with her. 131 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.360 They look like Barbie the fairies. Do they look like dolls? 132 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:59.199 They don't look real. You are just a negative Nancy today. 133 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:00.480 Well, they do. 134 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.720 Look at them, they just look like hold on, let 135 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:07.879 me zoom in. No, they still look like figurines. 136 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:11.079 But a month later, the girls got another picture. This 137 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:15.800 time instead of it being Francis, this is a picture 138 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.879 of Elsie with a winged I now put these photos 139 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:23.720 on social media. I can probably link one to the episode, 140 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:25.160 but the other ones I'll put in social media if 141 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:26.920 anyone wants to check them out, or you can just 142 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:29.720 look up the coddingly fairy photos. But this was a 143 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:32.480 picture of Elsie with a winged gnome looking creature. 144 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.839 That one doesn't look as much like a doll. It 145 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:38.680 does look creepy as hell, though. Look at its face. 146 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:39.920 Zoom in and look at its face. 147 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:41.160 It looks evil. 148 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:46.000 Elsie's father, like Natasha, didn't believe the photos were real, 149 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.959 but Elsie's mother was like, oh wow, that's amazing. You 150 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:50.160 got pictures of fairies. 151 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:53.920 Kudos, mom, wait to support your child even though they're 152 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:55.120 cuckooper cocoa buffs. 153 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.360 In nineteen nineteen, about two years after the first photo 154 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:03.079 was taken, Elsie's mother was at a Theological Society meeting 155 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:07.079 in Bradford where they were lecturing on fairy life. After 156 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:10.519 the meeting, Elsie's mother Polly showed the first two pictures 157 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:14.240 the girls had taken to others at the meeting, and 158 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:17.959 word eventually made its way to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 159 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:21.399 most know him as the author of a little series 160 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:26.600 Sherlock Holmes. Yes, he was also a spiritualist and interested 161 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.240 in the paranormal, deeply interested. At the time, he was 162 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:34.360 starting an article about fairies for the Strand magazine and 163 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:37.159 he was already interested in fairies, and after Sir Arthur 164 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.600 Conan Doyle found the photographs to be legit, he was convinced. 165 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.559 In nineteen twenty, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle went on to 166 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:48.759 publish an article about the fairy photos, and he also 167 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:51.919 published the photos along with it in nineteen twenty in 168 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:56.000 the Strand Magazine's Christmas edition. The article and pictures that 169 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:00.200 were published were looked at in awe by some, while 170 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:02.919 others were skeptical, like Natasha, you know what, there's. 171 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.519 A perfectly good reason why I'm skeptical about this first photo. 172 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:08.559 All right, go to the first photo. All right, we're 173 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:12.039 gonna zoom in, zoom in on the ferry all the 174 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:13.960 way to the left. 175 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:14.799 Okay. 176 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:18.360 And if that bitch is at that angle. For starters, 177 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:24.200 her leg is backwards almost, and the way that she's 178 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:26.240 sitting her dress. 179 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:28.600 Should be aimed downward and not to the right. 180 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.000 Well, she looks like she's dancing almost. 181 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:34.879 But still the flow of the dress is not making 182 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.000 sense on most of these fairies. 183 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:40.039 The math ape mathin And then if. 184 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:41.720 You look at the one all the way to the right, 185 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:45.559 what is up with her back leg that looks almost 186 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:50.279 like her her dress flapping back, but there's no foot 187 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:52.000 on either stick on the backside. 188 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.720 Well, I think the foot on her left foot is 189 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:58.320 covered by leaves, is what it looks like to me. 190 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.759 It just looks weird, skeptical Sally today. 191 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:04.039 It just in. 192 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.559 The whites don't match the whites, and the hair's not 193 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:08.279 flowing right. 194 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.200 Okay, anyway, I'm just gonna quit looking at the photo. 195 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:12.600 So the article and pictures were published and they were 196 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:16.120 looked at in awe by some and others were skeptical. 197 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:19.080 But even the skeptics couldn't figure out if it was faked. 198 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:22.639 How did they fake the photos? So Sir Arthur Conan 199 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:24.840 Doyle got the girls a new camera to try to 200 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.039 capture more of these enchanting creatures in photos. There was 201 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.600 a total of five pictures. I'm gonna send you the 202 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:32.200 next one. 203 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.200 All let's see we got here, let's see here hair. 204 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:38.159 I'll just send you the other three right away, so 205 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:39.679 you'll get the last three other ones. 206 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:44.559 So why is the fairy so clear and everything else 207 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.279 in the like in her face is so fuzzy. 208 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:51.600 Natasha, I was not there. I did not take these photographs, okay. 209 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.039 The most realistic one is the last one you sent me, 210 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:55.440 the fairy mount. 211 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:00.559 Yes, the next photo that I sent you was there 212 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.279 was one in nineteen twenty. That's the one where Frances 213 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:06.240 is shown side profile looking at a jumping fairy. That's 214 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:09.120 the third one I sent you. And the fourth one 215 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.039 is Elsie and she again is almost side profile, but 216 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.440 looking at a fairy that's holding something out to her, 217 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:17.639 almost like she's gonna give her something looks like a 218 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:19.559 piece of cake, just offering her a snack. 219 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:22.519 Looks like a tiny piece of cake. And then never 220 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:24.000 take food from a fairy. 221 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:25.080 Don't do it. 222 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:30.480 If you're in fairyland, do not eat or drink anything, okay. 223 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.919 And the last photo is from nineteen twenty, and that's 224 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:36.600 just of the fairies. No girls in the picture. And 225 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:39.240 the fairies are like in twigs. It's almost like a 226 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:40.519 little fairy mound type thing. 227 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:42.600 That one looks the most legit to me. 228 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.480 And people were still skeptical. The girls was scrutinized, but 229 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.639 never wavered that these pictures were of magical creatures. Now 230 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:55.440 we're gonna jump forward decades to nineteen eighty two, Okay, 231 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:59.159 like this is decades and decades later. Leeds University had 232 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.919 the original cam and they managed to find the original 233 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:07.200 negatives and Jeffrey Crowley, an editor of the British Journal 234 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:10.960 of Photography, went on this major investigation of the photographs 235 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:16.080 and the events surrounding them. After he undertook this major undertaking, 236 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:21.200 he excited that the original negatives had been altered or doctored. 237 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:25.840 The girls were confronted and they admitted that yes they 238 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.559 had fake the photos, ah, but that they really had 239 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:32.840 seen fairies. Adults were teasing them and they wanted them 240 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:36.600 to stop. So they concocted this to prove the adults wrong. 241 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.039 And Elsie, who was very artistic, had experienced in a 242 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.559 you know, in a photo studio with photographs at a 243 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:48.480 time where the general public's knowledge of photographic manipulation was 244 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:51.559 limited at best, if any, because I mean not everyone 245 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:55.600 had a camera. Yeah. What Elsie did was she traced 246 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:58.480 I'm going to send you one more photo. She traced 247 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:03.919 some girls from the book Boom Princess Mary's gift book, 248 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:08.120 and once they were traced, she drew them on cardboard cutouts, 249 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:10.519 and then she added some wings to the pictures and 250 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:14.919 stood the cutouts up with hat pins at the base, 251 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:18.759 and them being cutouts and being held up with a pin. 252 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.799 It appeared as if the fairies were moving in the photos, 253 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.200 so it added to it because they were blowing a 254 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.639 little bit in the wind. The photos took off and 255 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.120 their story Artha Conan Doyle believed it. So the girls 256 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.320 were too embarrassed to admit what they'd done, and they 257 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:37.039 didn't want to embarrass Sir Artha Conan Doyle, who defended 258 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:41.919 publicly these photos for decades. But Francis claims that the 259 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:45.120 fifth photograph of the fairies and there they called it 260 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:49.159 their Sunbath, was genuine. She said, quote, it was a 261 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:52.799 wet Saturday afternoon and we were just mooching about with 262 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.279 our cameras and Elsie had nothing prepared. I saw these 263 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.039 fairies building up in the grasses and just aimed the 264 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:00.600 camera and took a photograph. 265 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:02.759 Wait, the one that I said looks the most legit. 266 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:06.679 Yeah, she said that that was real. Okay, but some 267 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.200 say they were all crap. Some say, but the girls 268 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.519 did say that, say that they actually did see fairies. 269 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:13.879 Well, yeah, I could have told you that I saw 270 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.200 fairies when I was a kid. I used to try 271 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:19.480 to catch him. Me and my friend made fairy trasps. 272 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:20.879 We were trying to catch fairies. 273 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:22.720 Aw, that's so cute. 274 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:25.480 I could have been like, yeah, I totally saw one, 275 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.600 but I didn't because I wasn't a liar. 276 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:33.639 It's called imagination. But I mean, it is funny how 277 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.879 the public's opinion can be swayed so. 278 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:37.799 Easily. 279 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:40.879 Because Arthur Conan Doyle, like prominent person, was like, yeah, 280 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:44.279 it's real, so everyone was like, you know, he believed it, 281 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.799 so it has to be real. It was on TV, 282 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:49.279 Yeah it has to be real. 283 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:51.440 Yeah, it's on TV. It's gotta be real. 284 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:53.519 But a lot of people say that maybe because of 285 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.519 the wartime stress, they were looking for some kind of 286 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:02.480 magical escape, like how we stare at Hulu Netflix. Maybe 287 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.639 back then the Fairy was their streaming service to get 288 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:08.320 your mind off of how junky the world is, you know, 289 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:11.919 Or it could have been the time. The spiritualism was 290 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:15.000 huge back then, so that could get it. We're more 291 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.960 likely to jump on board Francis died in nineteen eighty 292 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.679 six in Elsie. In nineteen eighty eight. Some of their 293 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.960 prints and a first edition of Arthur Conan Doyle's writing 294 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:29.320 about the Fairies sold for over twenty one thousand pounds 295 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:30.399 in nineteen ninety eight. 296 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:32.039 Damn. 297 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.759 The pictures and cameras that the girls used are at 298 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:40.159 the National Science and Media Museum in Bradford, England. Watercolors 299 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:43.120 painted by Elsie of fairies and a letter from Elsie 300 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:47.960 admitting to faking the pictures are also there. I mean, 301 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.320 even if it's real or fake, it's so impressive that 302 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.120 girls back then, like young girls, at a time where 303 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.159 girls were worth like nothing in the world. Yeah, could 304 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:56.879 pull this off. 305 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:58.559 Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. 306 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:01.000 And the fact, I mean, yeah, they got a lot 307 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:02.879 of grief for it, but so many people that supported 308 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.639 them after, you know, of course the man decided that 309 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:08.320 it was true, then they all jumped on board, just 310 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:09.879 like I'm gonna throw that out there. 311 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:13.639 A man agreed and then it was okay. Yeah. 312 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:15.720 But that's I love how they were like, yep, this 313 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:17.360 is what we're doing, and they did it and they 314 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:18.039 just sold it. 315 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:19.200 Yep. 316 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:20.759 Hashtag women power. 317 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:24.480 Yeah, girl power, Flower Power. 318 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:27.360 So what do you think, do you think they saw 319 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:29.000 any fairies at all? Or do you think the whole 320 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:29.440 thing was. 321 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:34.279 Just honestly, they probably faked all of it. That one. 322 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:37.480 It was just the way that the photo sits, it 323 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.039 looks more legitimate. But I'd have to sit there and 324 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:43.360 like stare at it and like dive into it to 325 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:47.120 see if, like, how you know, bullshit I think it is. 326 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:51.279 But overall, I'd say it was probably their imagination. And 327 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.720 like you said, they were too afraid to come out 328 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:56.200 and say what they did because everybody was on board 329 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.039 by then. It was kind of like the Fox Sisters 330 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:03.600 love a good scheme. Yeah, I do not like schemes 331 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:08.400 because the scheming just degrades the authenticity of every other 332 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:10.599 person who might actually see something. 333 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:14.480 I get that part. It's more just about women having 334 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:16.440 a voice at a time that they didn't. It's not 335 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:17.000 about like. 336 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:18.880 Well, it'd be nice if they had a voice that 337 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:21.440 was honest, because it maybe more people would listen to us. 338 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.200 I get your point. I just like the girls do 339 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.559 make make big moves at a time where they weren't 340 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:27.039 supposed to. 341 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:30.359 They're airheaded and fanciful. Well guess what this is because 342 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.240 the ones that did were No. Wonder why we all 343 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:34.119 have a bad rap? 344 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:34.960 Now? 345 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:38.519 Do I believe that the Faye is real? Yes, these 346 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.160 particular ones no. 347 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:42.960 But who's to say. The last one it. 348 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.640 Just I don't know. 349 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:49.759 There's just something about it that still is like, eh, 350 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:51.319 they very well could have. 351 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:54.079 It just looks more three dimensional than the other ones did. 352 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:57.359 And I know they actually sent these photos when they 353 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:00.599 were investigating to Kodak, and Kodak was like, well, we 354 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.440 can't prove that they're that they're fake. So they tried, 355 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:04.119 but they couldn't. 356 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:06.359 Yeah, the hand does look a little funky on that 357 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.359 last one, the last with the girls, and I'm kind 358 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:11.319 of like in the grass, it's like, got this the 359 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:14.000 blades of grass and stuff that's underneath it. I don't know, 360 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:18.680 I just feel like it looks at least more legitimate. 361 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:24.240 Still not like ooh wow, that's amazing, but at least 362 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:26.039 at least better than the other ones. 363 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:28.319 They stepped up their game on that photo. 364 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:31.079 During wartime, I would have been all in. I would 365 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:33.200 have been like buying the magazine. I'd be buying the 366 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:34.400 National Inquirers. 367 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:36.039 You buy those magazine? 368 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:38.000 What is the where they talk about on men in Black, 369 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.480 and they like get those like bullshit magazines and they're like, 370 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:41.759 this is where all the real news is. 371 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:44.799 I would I never bought them. When I was waiting 372 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:46.759 in line at the grocery store, I'd always pick up 373 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:49.839 the National Inquirer and read a few pages. Oh geez, 374 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:52.160 you don't want to know who Elvis has a baby with. 375 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:56.640 No, No, it's probably a lizard woman at Area fifty 376 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:57.400 one's their home. 377 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:01.200 Yes, I'm this year. I'm telling you conspiracy all the 378 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.400 way I wasn't before. Now the conspiracies are all real, 379 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:07.480 they're proven, they're no longer conspiracy. So what the hell's 380 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:08.640 happened to this world? 381 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:11.640 I will be bringing some to creep it weird then, Yes, 382 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:14.279 I hope. So I've got a whole shlew of them. 383 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.240 I can't wait. Yeah, that's all I got. I don't 384 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:20.079 fully believe, but I don't fully think that they didn't either. 385 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.000 I like to see you like the forest area like 386 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:25.839 a lot of for me, is the vibe, like what 387 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:28.039 kind of vibe is it putting off? Because there's some 388 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:31.599 places that are very mystical. Just walking in you can 389 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:33.279 it's you can feel it. 390 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.519 It's called a what do you call it's not a 391 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:38.000 like no, hold on, let me look up the word 392 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.559 for it. I'm just gonna show you. This is where 393 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:44.720 it's beautiful, where they saw said they saw the fairies, 394 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:49.119 which does look magical. Oh it's a beck, that's what 395 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.799 it's called. A beck, A beck of water, like a 396 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:54.240 stream of water. But it's a beck. 397 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:55.559 Hmm. 398 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:58.920 Oh yeah that minus the weird house in the back. 399 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.279 Yes, does that look magical? It does look pretty magical. 400 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:03.839 I'll give you that. 401 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:05.759