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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty Bill Handle. Here it is a

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday morning, April seventeen. As we continue on, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to spend a minute talking about revisiting the fires, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a bunch of controversy going on, primarily and the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades fire. Why that reservoir was empty and it held

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know two three million gallons of water and

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<v Speaker 2>why it wasn't used, and the lack of water pressure,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is continuing on. I mean, lawsuits have been

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<v Speaker 2>filed against the Department of Water and Power, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>one story we've been covering. Now we're not spending a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of time talking about the Altadena fire, the

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<v Speaker 2>Eaton fire, and because there's no water pressure issue, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no Department of Water and Power. That's screwed up. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>ran out of water. But you know Woody in his

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<v Speaker 2>soothe city for running out of water even when everything

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<v Speaker 2>is going balls to the wall. That fire was just

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<v Speaker 2>out of control. No one anticipated it. So the issue

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<v Speaker 2>is when was the evacuation called for? And that has

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<v Speaker 2>reared its head because nine to one one logs show

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<v Speaker 2>that more than a dozen calls from Altadena we were

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<v Speaker 2>made before the evacuation or was ordered.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve to fifty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Am, January eighth, first one Sheriff's official reports of flaming

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<v Speaker 2>structure on the corner of Las Floris Drive, few doors

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<v Speaker 2>down from where a seventy one year old would die

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<v Speaker 2>in the fire two thirty three am. Now that's just

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<v Speaker 2>a while away. I mean, this is not yet exploded.

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<v Speaker 2>A Pasadena cop tells nine to one to one dispatcher's

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<v Speaker 2>flame had consumed Monterrosa Drive the street.

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<v Speaker 1>A man would die.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the guy who died, hold the garden hose in

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<v Speaker 2>his front yard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where this fire was.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten minutes later, a sheriff's calls that the fire was

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<v Speaker 2>encroaching on Wapello Street.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where a ninety four year old Korean War veteran died.

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<v Speaker 2>The first evacuation order for that area came at three

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<v Speaker 2>point twenty five am, an hour after the cop first called.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the calls came screaming into the nine to

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<v Speaker 2>one center call center. And the argument here is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be how long did they wait and what was

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<v Speaker 2>this disconnect between dispatchers receiving reports of homes on fire

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<v Speaker 2>more than one, and the officials deciding what homes to evacuate.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at the fire deaths, seventeen out of eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those deaths happened in West Altadena, which got the

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<v Speaker 2>first alert eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the evacuation orders hits.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the problem, and the investigation is going on now.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of this is no one.

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<v Speaker 2>Understood the ferocity. The ferocity of this fire. The ferociousness

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<v Speaker 2>of this fire, I think that's the word, because it

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<v Speaker 2>just caught everybody by surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were.

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<v Speaker 2>People that looked at a fire in the distance half

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<v Speaker 2>an hour that it was half a mile away, and

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<v Speaker 2>they turned around and they looked back, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it's a quarter of a mile away. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>these fires were moving well, the winds were one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour plus, and fires were roaring at someone

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<v Speaker 2>far faster.

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<v Speaker 1>You could drive away, you could run away.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're trying to figure out was there a disconnect

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<v Speaker 2>there seems to be was the anticipation.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's I think what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in the lawsuit against the Department of Water and Power,

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<v Speaker 2>where the reservoir should have been full, you should have

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<v Speaker 2>had more water pressure. The defense is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>not that they shouldn't have done what they should have done,

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<v Speaker 2>not that there shouldn't have been the reservoir working, It's

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<v Speaker 2>that it wouldn't have mattered. The fire was so ferocious,

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<v Speaker 2>so unanticipated hurricane force winds.

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<v Speaker 1>That were whipping this fire. And I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to this.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, this is going to come out of trial,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they settle, it will never come out at

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<v Speaker 2>a trial that could anything have helped. No water pressure

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<v Speaker 2>from the city's mains. They ran out of pressure. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the city main water lines are not designed to have

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<v Speaker 2>full water.

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<v Speaker 1>Pressure for hour after hour after hour.

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<v Speaker 2>And pump up these mountains. They just aren't designed. And

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<v Speaker 2>as a matter of fact, we go beyond that, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no municipality on the planet that can successfully deal with

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<v Speaker 2>a fire like this at its early stages or while

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<v Speaker 2>it's roaring through the various housing areas.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're going to find out a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot more than that. I mean, these are incredible stories

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<v Speaker 2>of individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened.

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<v Speaker 2>La Times went and looked at the fire logs, looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the summaries, checked out individuals who were caught in

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<v Speaker 2>the fire and when phone calls were made, it's some heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course the story is not going to go

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<v Speaker 1>away any soon.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Now here's a question, and this is a

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<v Speaker 2>story that's been a massive story having to do with

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<v Speaker 2>Kilmar Abrego Garcia. This is the l Salvadorian who was

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<v Speaker 2>deported by accident. He was picked up and thrown on

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<v Speaker 2>an airplane and sent down to El Salvador. And the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration admitted that it was done by accident. And

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<v Speaker 2>you would think if you were the president, you were

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<v Speaker 2>an official, you go, okay, we blew it. We sent

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<v Speaker 2>him down by accident. Something happened and fell between the cracks.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's see what we can do to bring him back.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was deported because he was a member of

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<v Speaker 2>MS thirteen, which not a whole lot of proof, as

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<v Speaker 2>in there was no proof that the government was able

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<v Speaker 2>to come up with because now they're being the government

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<v Speaker 2>of course, is being attacked. He has not been charged

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<v Speaker 2>with any crime either here or in l Salvador, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was sent to one of the most if not

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<v Speaker 2>the most notorious prisons in El Salvador. And no idea

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<v Speaker 2>if he is ever going to come out and what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening to him because even the Maryland Senator who went

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<v Speaker 2>down on his own to at least talk to an

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<v Speaker 2>official to talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Government of L.

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<v Speaker 2>Salvador said absolutely not, might as well go home nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is going to happen as a result of

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<v Speaker 2>all this, we don't know. The government is about to

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<v Speaker 2>be hit with a contempt charged by the judge because

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<v Speaker 2>the judge had ordered the government to facilitate bringing him back.

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<v Speaker 1>And the administration said no, just ignored it.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we have a contempt hearing where I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they are going to be nailed with contempt. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what you do with a contempt charge against

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>And then up came this.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird discussion where the President, when he was sitting with

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<v Speaker 2>the L. Salvadorian president, was somehow it came up about

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<v Speaker 2>American American citizens being deported to L.

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<v Speaker 1>Salvador, and the L. Salvadorian president said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you pay for it, And we're okay with

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<v Speaker 2>that because all the prisoners are being sent down and

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<v Speaker 2>are still being sent down to L. Salvador, those who

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<v Speaker 2>are illegal that are being sent down properly according to law.

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<v Speaker 2>The US is paying Salvador six million dollars so far

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<v Speaker 2>for the two hundred that are sitting there. And when

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<v Speaker 2>the President said, yeah, we're gonna send down American citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the worst of the worst. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>send down the criminals, the terrorists, and it really doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter if they're American citizens or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody went whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>The Constitution specifically says that an American citizen is basically

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<v Speaker 2>an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>That if you live in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>And you are either born here or are naturalized here,

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<v Speaker 2>you're an American citizen and you can't be deported to

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<v Speaker 2>another country. Because where is an American being deported too?

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<v Speaker 2>He or she is an American. My parents, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>when they came to the United States and had Brazilian citizenship,

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<v Speaker 2>which I had to give up when they became US citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>where were they going to be deported to? Okay, Brazil,

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<v Speaker 2>Brazil says, these aren't Brazilians. Why would we take non

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<v Speaker 2>Brazilians just because you the United States or you Germany

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<v Speaker 2>want to kick him out. That's not on us. And

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<v Speaker 2>so the President is saying one of two things. First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, getting a country that's willing to accept American

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<v Speaker 2>citizens in this case El Salvador, that is saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll accept them. You pay us well, will take them.

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<v Speaker 2>And number two, how do you circumvent the constitution? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>can an American citizen have citizenship taken away? That's different

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<v Speaker 2>because if you are a citizen and it's taken away,

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<v Speaker 2>then you are open for deportation and the US government

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<v Speaker 2>can in fact remove you. But it's not taking American

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<v Speaker 2>citizens and removing them. It's making these citizens non citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can do that if in an application for naturalization,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, fraud was committed.

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<v Speaker 1>Lied about who I was.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a case of this war criminal by the

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<v Speaker 2>name of Artukevich from Yugoslavia. My dad was involved in

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<v Speaker 2>that trial as a witness, and he came to the

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<v Speaker 2>United States and I think it was right after World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two as a quote expert on communists, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was an American citizen and he lied on his application

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<v Speaker 2>to be an American citizen, lied about who he was,

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<v Speaker 2>lied about his identity. Now, it took twenty years, but

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<v Speaker 2>his citizenship was removed and he was deported back to

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even Yugoslavi at that time, it was sent

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<v Speaker 2>back to Croatia, where he ended up dying over there in.

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<v Speaker 1>Prison or awaiting trial.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is removal of American citizenship also under very

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<v Speaker 2>weird circumstances, convicted of treason and a few other things

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<v Speaker 2>during wartime, but that becomes virtually impossible. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how the president is going to get around that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't. The scary part is that if he does,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say he has ice pick up someone. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>someone points a finger. Neil, Neil is Savedra. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a Hispanic Latito name. Let's throw him out of here

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<v Speaker 2>and send him to Al Salvador and Cono is copying

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<v Speaker 2>a plover. Yes, okay, now how is it. How do

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<v Speaker 2>we stop the government from doing that? Well, you go

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<v Speaker 2>to court immediately and the court say says to the government,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do that. Nil's an American citizen. And the

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<v Speaker 2>administration says, fine, don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do with that?

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately, that is what's going on right now with

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<v Speaker 2>kar Abuego Garcia.

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<v Speaker 1>So not an American citizen. No, he is not. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say he is not an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was here legally, and they're bypassing that concept.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot deport someone who is here legally and is

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<v Speaker 2>not committed a crime. Now the argument is going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was a member of MS thirteen, he was

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<v Speaker 2>a member of a terrorist organization. Just based on that,

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<v Speaker 2>we can deport him. Fine, where's the evidence? We don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any whoa, I mean, that's the fear. So how

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<v Speaker 2>is this going to shake out?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what the judge says. I mean, the contempt

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<v Speaker 2>order is going to be issued. But what difference does

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<v Speaker 2>it make. The judges already ordered, the Supreme Court ordered

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<v Speaker 2>the administration to return this guy or to facilitate his retard.

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<v Speaker 2>The administration instead of going back and said, yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 2>the embassy over here. I think that would have been

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<v Speaker 2>enough for the judge or the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing crickets.

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<v Speaker 2>And now the argument is that the courts have no

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<v Speaker 2>jurisdiction to tell the administration who are not to deport.

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<v Speaker 2>That's on the administration making a decision arbitrarily and if

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<v Speaker 2>they make a mistake, Okay, they make a mistake, don't

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<v Speaker 2>get picked up, all right, Be really careful when you

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<v Speaker 2>go to home depot. Don't park anywhere near the driveway.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Costco.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I always talk about Costco. I live at Costco

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<v Speaker 2>twice a week. I was at Costco a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days ago. I'm going to Costco this afternoon. So the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom line is Costco does hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna a little fraud there.

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<v Speaker 2>Costco does stuff completely counterintuitive, unlike like any other store.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give you an example.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to my nearest Rouse and I go there because,

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<v Speaker 2>first fall, I'm a Rouse buyer. It's reasonably priced food

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to Gelson, which is even closer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I go there because I know where stuff is.

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<v Speaker 2>I know where the cheese is, the isle in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the store, I know if I'm looking for cookies,

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what his ale is on.

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<v Speaker 1>If I don't, but I know, I look at those signs.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's Aisle thirteen, and it'll tell you it's

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<v Speaker 2>cookies and crackers and chips and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It tells you what the food is. Costco doesn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Costco does the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>There is nothing on the aisles indicating what's down the aisle?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You go on a Tuesday and you're looking for a

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<v Speaker 2>specific item and you find it. Okay. As you're rolling around,

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<v Speaker 2>you're finding the item, and then a week later you go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I didn't get enough of it, so

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<v Speaker 2>you had first purchased the item.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not there. It's not there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you go to the nearest Costco person and you ask, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>where is and then whatever it is, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the luggage? You need another piece?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're told, oh, it's on Isle eighteen, the other

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<v Speaker 2>end of the store. I go, wait a minute, it

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<v Speaker 2>was here last week. Yeah, yeah, we moved it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wondering why they did that. Michelle her husband Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>works for Costco, and they do that because they want

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<v Speaker 2>you to walk around looking for stuff, and you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for something specific and it can take you twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to find it. In the meantime, you take your cart

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<v Speaker 2>and this is what I do all the time. I

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<v Speaker 2>take my cart and I am walking the aisles figuring

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<v Speaker 2>out what I'm going to look for, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden. Wow, that's a great deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of like the idea that there's a bat

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<v Speaker 2>I have to like shrimp chips, and there's a bad

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't have them all the time. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>bag of shrimp chips that's in a fifty five gallon

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<v Speaker 2>trash bag size, and so I'm going to buy that

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<v Speaker 2>for four dollars. So rule number one at Costco is

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<v Speaker 2>you move the inventory around, or they do purposely so

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what's where, forcing you to walk around.

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<v Speaker 2>When you walk in the door, what do you see?

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<v Speaker 2>You see the TVs, the soundbars, the computer us that's

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<v Speaker 2>walking in the door. You see the jewelry walking in

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<v Speaker 2>the door. Now, a lot of people don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>Costco sells very high end jewelry at great prices. Clark

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<v Speaker 2>Howard spent a fortune on buying a diamond ring for

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<v Speaker 2>his wife, but he made sure it was from Costco

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<v Speaker 2>because that was the best deal out there. Also, they

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<v Speaker 2>sell caskets. I don't know if you know that. When

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<v Speaker 2>my dad died and I was buying a casket for him, Costco. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the mortuary match the price, but Costco is half the price.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go to their website and if you need

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<v Speaker 2>a casket, just hang around the house.

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<v Speaker 1>You have it all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's their rule in terms of where you walk in. Okay, next,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff changes all the time. You never know what they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to sell, and you go wow and know it's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be here next week.

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<v Speaker 1>You end up buying it.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, a hot tub for four thousand dollars that

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<v Speaker 2>normally you would see someplace else for six thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the other day. As a matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>just bought it. I just bought it. What is it

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<v Speaker 1>that I bought? I bought an outdoor umbrella.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point I was going to buy one for

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<v Speaker 2>my backyard, but they had this Blasto five thousand umbrella. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the blast of five thousand, which only cost seven hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>where normally it's nine hundred bucks any place else. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up buying it. I went for a chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>I went in for a chicken, a rotisserie chicken. At

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<v Speaker 2>five bucks. They get you in the store and they

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going to happen. They have fewer items than

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<v Speaker 2>most giant retailers, but when you do buy, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you are getting quality and you are paying less money

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<v Speaker 2>for it being a barbecue on Sunday. Lindsay's folks are coming,

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<v Speaker 2>and where am I going to get the meat? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to Costco. That's all I want. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>Costco for some stakes. Are you guys going to be

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating the resurrection of our Lord? H? Well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>particularly going to be doing that, but yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>You celebrate the death and may celebrate the resurrection. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact, that's going to be my next Zelman's commercial,

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<v Speaker 2>which I have done regularly every Easter, and that is,

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<v Speaker 2>of course indicating bad breath.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do I do that? Well, rolling that.

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<v Speaker 2>Rock you know outside the entrance three days after he died.

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<v Speaker 1>His breath had to be unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Man Zelman's mint mouths so hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you, buddy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is all of this is done with

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<v Speaker 2>Costco and they know exactly what they're going to get.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to go. I'm going to look for stakes.

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<v Speaker 2>All I want is stakes, and then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>get one of their shopping carts, which are as big

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<v Speaker 2>as dump trucks, and walk in and fill up the cart.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will spend three hundred dollars for stakes and

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<v Speaker 2>a few other items. They just know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>No store maps. Anytime you want to look for something,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in there for forty minutes looking around. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course where do they How do they get prices so

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<v Speaker 2>good because they make me They get membership one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty million people paying what an average of sixty bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I pay one hundred dollars because I have the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>membership executive puba membership one hundred and forty million people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why their prices are so good.

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<v Speaker 2>And their philosophy is they are fanatic about quality. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean fanatic. You know, you're getting good quality stuff for

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<v Speaker 2>very very, not even reasonable inexpensive. Okay, we're done with that.

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