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Speaker 1: His Pet Life Radio. Let's Talk Pets. Welcome to Animal

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Rights on pet Life Radio. This's your host, Tim Link,

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and I'm so glad you're joining us. Today. We have

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a wonderful, wonderful new twist to the show. We don't

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always get these, because you know, this show Animal Rights.

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We interview authors and writers and people that write about

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animals or you know, have animals as part of their

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characters and their books. But every once in a while

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we get a fun and interesting twist on things. And

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so now today we have a super duper singer songwriter

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coming on board. Of course, we're talking about the world

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famous Skip Ewing, and we're going to talk to Skip

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about his latest release of a single, Road Dog, and

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talk to him about animals. Of course, we'll talk about

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dogs and horses and all that wonderful stuff. They want

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to pick Skip's bring a little bit about writing, how

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he crafts his writing, how he goes about doing his work,

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how he's become one of the most famous songwriter out there.

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So we're gonna have to pick us brain a little

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bit about that as well. So it's a fun, an

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interesting and exciting show. So everybody hang tight, we'll come

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back right after this commercial break. You're listening to Animal

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Speaker 3: Let's talk pets on Petlifradio dot com.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back two Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. Joining

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me now. He's a Grammy, Tony CMA and ACM, a

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more Dominie. He's written eleven number one hit records for

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legends such as Keith Urban, George Strait, Kenny Chesney, Trip'll

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Play Award Winner. Just the list goes on and on,

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and of course he produces his own stuff as well.

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You know, road Doc we're talking about some want to

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pick about it because I love the song, love the track.

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Of course we're talking about Skip eweing Skip.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show, and thank you very much. I

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appreciate it. It's nice to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm super excited to have you here because, like

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I said, I'm always looking for a little bit different

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twist to things. I don't always get to you at

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chat with the singer songwriters. And of course you know Mark,

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our producer, and myself, we love music, country music in particular,

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and I know that's your genre and we know you're

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one of the best out there. So I guess we'll

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first start talking about what you got going on right now,

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because you've got a new single, new release and album.

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I guess we call it an old school terms a

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track coming out called road Dog. So tell us a

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little bit about the music the road Dog and how

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that all came about.

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Speaker 4: For sure, road Dog is from the new album that's

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out called road to California, So it had Albums are

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still a thing, Tim, no worries about ball and this

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was just a fun track that it just came to be.

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I mean, I can tell you how I wrote it

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and what have you, but maybe I should just back

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up a tiny bit and let you know some of

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what you talked about. You know, I lived in Nashville

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for twenty something years and I wrote for all these wonderful,

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incredible artists. I mean, you know, everybody from like Willy

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to the Zach brownband. I mean, it's just but I

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took a break because I had fallen in love with horses.

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That's a longer story, but as a spiritual walk for me,

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I sold everything in Nashville and went on the road

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to study horsemanship. I did that for about eight years.

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I met my wife, and that's pretty much all I

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did that. I started traveling and we were doing clinics

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and we ended up coming to Wyoming. And after we

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to Wyoming, my wife took a job as a videographer

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for another horseman and I grabbed my guitar and started

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back writing some And after I played her those songs,

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she said, Honey, I think it's time we put the

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journeys together. And I said, I don't know, honey. If

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I go back and do music full time again, this

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is going to be comprehensive. I mean, it's just gonna

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it's everything. I'm gone a lot, you know. And she said,

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I just think people need to hear it. So that

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is what led me back to now, which is why

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we have, you know, a new album out. This is

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second album in a row that we've produced since since

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I made that choice, and Road Dog happened because of

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our dog. I have a Pyrenees Australian Shepherd mix who's

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a one hundred and well one hundred and fifteen pounds

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maybe one hundred and twenty. Now he likes to eat,

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but he thinks he's puppies and his favorite his favorite

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seat in the truck is a shotgun seat, so that's

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why he's called Shotgun. I don't even he can barely

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fit in that seat anymore. But the song came about

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because I walked out one day and looked at my

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truck and Tim, you know, out here everyone's got a

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white truck. It's just you don't always know it. So

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sometimes the dirt lets me see it's white. Sometimes it doesn't.

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truck is absolutely filled with white hair and smudges all

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over the windows. And I realized that, as crazy as

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it is, I love it. I love our dogs. I

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love the kind of life that we have. It very

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close to us. There's got to be people who feel

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that man everywhere, because all of our friends out here

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have dogs, you know, like that, and they're just part

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of their lives. I mean, you know, that's just it.

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they're with us everywhere all the time. And I came

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home and I said, Donny, I had this little bluegrass

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rift thing, and I think it's fun. I said, it

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takes a chance that you know, there's a lot of

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other people who like to travel with their dogs. I said,

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but I think we're talking about, oh, maybe a few

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hundred million people, so we might be snaked with that.

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lot of people really like it. So and look it's

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led me to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we love it. Well, I mean I love

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as you said to the riff, the tune and the video.

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or another source? Cause that everybody's got to go to

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download the video take a look at it, because it's

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it's brilliant.

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Speaker 4: Well, my wife is brilliant. I married one of the

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greatest spirits on the planet. To be be true, I

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don't know what she's doing with me, but she's brilliant,

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and she's got the same kind of hard She's all

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about animals, you know, as as well. And our idea was,

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do with video and post production and all that, and

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we've done you know, even multi camera shoots. Takes us forever.

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you know, pictures of dogs, but not just any dogs, Like,

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why don't we ask our fans, you know, anybody who

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to send of their dogs in that are relevant to

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you know, to traveling. And so we did. We put

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it out there and we got hundreds and on hundreds

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of great pictures. I mean, dogs on motorcycles, dogs on boats, dogs,

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you know, dogs dressed up, dogs asleep in the back seat.

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to fit these in this video. But what she did

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is she took and she integrated them. So there's one

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hundred and fifty individuals, a lot of dogs at least

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in this video and shotguns just riding with me, you know,

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in the truck and I'm you know, I'm singing the

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song and we kind of we kind of just had

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some fun with the way that it looked, and then

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put all these dogs in the way it worked out

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was really fun and a lot of people were happy that.

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like there's gonna be some more things like that that

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are gonna that are going to happen because everybody loves

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their dogs. And I have this thing about championing other

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people's joy and their successes, you know, so it makes

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me happy to involve other people's So if we eat

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another one, if we have another chance to do some

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special video with a zillion dogs in it again, just

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so people can see their dog in a in a

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video and we can have fun. Oh man, I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: I love it well.

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Speaker 1: I always say, if you put a dog in there,

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you're golden. Whatever it is. I don't care if it's

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a book, I don't care if it's an album, I

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don't care what you do. Put a dog on there.

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Speaker 4: You know, let me say, don't let an animal act

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Speaker 1: That's it, And you know the song's fantastic, it really is.

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I mean it just touches me. Of course, not only

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were we talking about dogs here, but just it hooked

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me right away. You know, I listened to a lot

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of different am using some of it takes me a

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little while to catch on to, you know, really get

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it and really enter me. And this one hit me

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right away. Dogs of course being part of it hit

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me right away. But the video is golden because I

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love picking. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a you know,

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that's a just dog. I wonder if he has a

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schnauzer in there. I'm a schnauzer guy. There schnauzer in there.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean it was just we had a ball,

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really road dog is a is A. It's the dog

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who's actually singing this song. So and that's a that's

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a little different too. And I thought that was kind

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of taking the chance. But it's fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And that's the thing that you know, it

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to turn around the shirt with my wife as well,

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saying you've got to listen to this. This is this

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is the perfect song. And so yeah, we've got to

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download it. Don't you worry about that, buddy.

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Speaker 4: That's what led to me being on the show Tim

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and I really appreciate it. And thank you for listening.

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a gift to me. So thank you for taking the

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for putting it together. We do appreciate it. Well,

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list you touched a little bit about that the journey,

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because going to Nashville, I'm sure was a dream, and

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getting to work with all these fantastic people, seeing your

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songs taking up by them writing. At what point did

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you get to where you're saying, hey, I've got to

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take a break from all this? I mean, was it

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more of I've always loved horses, and here's an opportunity,

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so I'm gonna go. Or I threw a dart at

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the map and Wyoming one, so I'm packing up my

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gear and I'm heading there. How was that interchange? And

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then tell us a little bit about that spiritual journey

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right after high school and went to Nashville. I had

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a job offer, and I had done a lot of

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music before then, and I just never looked back. And

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a record deal. And it wasn't like I set out

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and said, Hey, I'm going to be a country songwriter

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or I'm going to be a country singer. Basically, Tim

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I didn't know what I was doing, so I just

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made stuff up, so making up words to go with

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the stuff I was making up. That made perfect sense

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the radio, and then I started getting songs recorded by

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other artists and having you know, many many hit I mean,

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twenty some hit records at least in that decade and

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for ten, fifteen, twenty years, and a lot changes in

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that amount of time. And I have always been someone

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who comes to my writing more about those who are

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listening than if a chart is an indication of whether

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something is good. I have always said that it's more

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about parts for me than it is about charts. There

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are a lot of number one records that I don't

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think are going to be remembered that much in twenty years.

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But I have some songs I wrote thirty years ago

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that are still getting played on the radio. Where I

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can't go somewhere and have someone they'll know the words.

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Any country I go to, anything that's amazing. And that connection,

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that human connection, that lasting part connection is what I'm about.

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And there was a time I'm where it was difficult

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for me to write what I believed in and have

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that be what was getting played on radio. And if

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I'm not getting songs on the radio, a publishing company

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is not gonna you know, That's what they do. They're

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after the money, and money is money is great, but

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it doesn't it doesn't drive me the way it does

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some people. And in the interim, I had been coming

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to Wyoming. I came in about nineteen ninety nine or

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two thousand, something like that, just to ride. I just

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went to a ranch. You know, I knew a bit

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about horses. My grandfather was a thoroughbred rancher in California.

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When I was a kid, but I didn't didn't ride,

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and I didn't really know that much. I was just

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a kid, you know, went out and threw hey in

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the feeders and whatever, you know, but to kind of

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speed along here. After I had been coming to Wyoming

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for a number of years, I began recognizing in horses

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what I would never have otherwise recognized had I not

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spent time. I used to go down and just just

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watch and just see how they moved, and you know

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what kind of sound they made, how they interact with

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one another, whether they were interested in me and my

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relationship with any horse that I began riding. I began

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realizing that I was the one who was significantly limited

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in my understanding what was that offering me as a human.

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And I began to realize, ye, yes, I was more sensitive,

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and I could tell some things about horses that I

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couldn't tell before, and I had learned. But more importantly,

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I kept learning from them what I could do more skillfully.

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Where I found myself where I would learn something with

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a horse and I would invite that horse to do

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that with me. And if I wasn't skillful, the horse

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was still trying as very dust, and it was rarely

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the horse who had the challenge. It was almost always me.

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And this inspired me. And so when I was in

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Nashville and I got to that place and riding where

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I went, I don't know if I can make a

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living the way that I really making the music, like

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the music that I'm making now, getting to really be

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the artist that I would like to be, and never

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have been able to do that, and now I can.

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But when I wasn't able to, I just looked at

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my whole life and lent this feels spiritual to me.

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This is about me becoming the kind of person that

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I or allowing that to flower, if that's a way,

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you know. And so I sold everything. I sold my house,

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I sold all my furniture. I sold everything except my

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guitars and my art, put those in a storage unit,

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and you know, waved goodbye to Nashville for a while

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and went out to basically to learn about me and

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as much about horses as I could. And this changed

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my whole life. It really changed my I feel it did.

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I feel. It changed my understanding of relationships, It changed

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how skillful I was, and quite importantly, it changed how

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willing I was to look at how skillful I wasn't

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if that makes any sense. Yeah, absolutely, well, I could say,

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wait a minute, there are so many things that I'm

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being given the opportunity to recognize. You know. That's the

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old thing about the levels of learning. You know, in

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the first thing is you don't know that you don't know,

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and you know that you don't know. Well, I think

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that that was a very important time in my life,

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and that relationship with horses and what I still put

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into practice from everything that I've learned is part of

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my writing. It's part of my you know, part of

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when I'm crafting songs and making records and especially when

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I'm out doing a show. I mean, that's a right

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now thing. That's an interaction that is just as it's

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just as much a tapestry or breathing the same air.

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I know that's a weird thing to say, but I

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don't think of it as anything, but that is one

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of some of the moments of our life where we're

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taking breaths together and it can be amazing and hopefully

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I'm offering the kind of you know, the kind of

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music and art and now even my own heart a

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bit a bit differently and thank goodness, you know I'm

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with Linda, for instance, I don't I'm not sure I

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could have been. I'm sure. I am sure that I

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could not have been the man I am for her

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and now under our circumstances. Had I not taken that journey,

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and I wouldn't be writing the music, and I don't

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know if I'd be having the same kind of success.

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It's pretty crazy that, Wow, all of a sudden, you know,

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I'm getting songs. You know, got a top forty song

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on the radio with Lanny Wilson and Ernest to cut that.

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This road Dog song is out to radio. I've got

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this new album. It looks like we're going to cut

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a new project. And they and hey, I'm I'm listening

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if other people are listening, and they'll open the doors

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for me. I'm all about it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it, and I love the fact that you

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took that leap of faith to find your spiritual journey,

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you know, to take that journey to find yourself make

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that connection. Obviously, horses are a big part of that.

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Animals always bring out the best in us. And I

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would agree with you wholeheartedly. You know, I haven't walked

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in your shoes. But from you know, what we've talked about,

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why I know of you, I do believe it took

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that journey to get back to who you are and

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to uncover even more of who you are. And now

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you have someone obviously side by side to take that

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journey with you. That's that's got to be. It's got

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to be a thrill, and it's got to be make

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you feel good about the fact that, hey, I'm doing

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the right thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, it does, and you know, I mean, I just

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think as humans, the more times we go around the sun,

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the more things we've learned, whether we wanted to or not,

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you know, And so that does change. That does change things,

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and horses weren't not you know, the entire spiritual element

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of my walk, if that makes any sense. But the

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reason when I say that it's spiritual is because you know,

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it's more it's beyond the horsemanship what we might call

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horsemanship skills as far as you know, I ride this

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well or what you know, whatever however you want to

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say that, but it is about recognizing our own growth

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and development and offering that, for instance, to other humans

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that were with and with horses that we're with. Sometimes knowing.

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Sometimes just being aware and being present is like I

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think it's one of the greatest gifts that we can give,

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even with a horse. Sometimes I feel the greatest thing

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you can do for a horse is nothing. Just give

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them a minute. They've maybe they've been working, you know,

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with you and really given it and maybe they were

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under standing, maybe you're understanding. Maybe you're both not understanding,

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or maybe you both are. But that feeling, I believe

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it even translates to a horse. You know what. You

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know what, buddy or sister, right now, you've got my

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complete attention, You've got my ears, you've got my eyes, whatever,

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we're just whatever. We're just here and it's awesome. That's

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the same thing with humans. And so I guess those

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efforts of going how can we be? How can I

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do that for all the relationships of my life, including

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the one inside my own head, you know. And this

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is one of the reasons why I would say it's spiritual,

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not because it's something that's magic between you know, a

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person and a horse. I think things in that space

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in my limited time, I mean a decade is not

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a long time for some horseman, that's you know, But

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in that time you know, to be able to say

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I really feel there are some most of that is

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just so concrete. It just is these are the things

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that are, and the more we're aware of that, the

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better we can be. That's just how it is, you

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know what I mean, That's how it is. And and

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what do we do with that? It inspired me. It's

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thrilled me actually to be given those kinds of teachers

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and then and then to move into the rest of

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my life. And it continues, you know, it continues, but

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it's all up in my writing, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Well, I think it's a fantastic journey,

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obviously a great story, and where now it's led you

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almost full circle, but in a perhaps I will say,

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in a better place, and your journey to get you

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to where you are today, you know, has got to

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attract more. You know, positive energy attracts positive energy. So

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when you're in a good headspace, when you're in a

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good place, good things are going to happen for you

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as well as you're going to attract good people around you.

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So good for you. I like it.

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Speaker 4: I agree that I agree with that, you know, cultivating

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the right kind of attitudes and the right kind of

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energies is definitely something that manifests well in everyone's life. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna take a quick commercial break.

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We'll come back in chat a little bit more with

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the skip youing and talk about writing. He sort of

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led us into that. I want to know a little

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bit more about how he goes about crafting his skills

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in writing, as well as how he determines what he's

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going to record and compared to what somebody else is

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going to record. So everybody hang tight, we'll pick the

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brain of the master when we come back. And you're

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to animal riots on pet Life Radio. Send

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you our conversation with one of the best singers of

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songwriters out there. Skip you ing, skip before the break.

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We talked briefly or released. We introduced into the fact

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of your writing in general. And these are things that

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always fascinated me because you know, singing and songwriting. How

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do you craft it? How do you do it? What

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comes first? Does the music come before the lyrics? Lyrics

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come for the music, or is there an another inspiration

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such as a shotgun coming into play saying, hey Dad,

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you gotta write this.

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Speaker 4: Song for me?

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Speaker 1: How does that all work for you? Does one come

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before the other.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a you know, obviously that's a huge, a

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huge quest. You know. There's an old saying that that's like,

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you know, writing is like fifteen percent inspiration and the

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rest work, you know. And there's another saying that I

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agree with that is basically it is hell to be

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writing and heaven to have written, you know. So there's

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and so most of those things come into play. It's

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not like you just decide you're going to write a song,

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or at least for me that you know, it sometimes

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takes me days, days and days for certain songs i'll anymore.

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And there was a time when I tried to finish

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a song almost every day, but I found the percentage

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of what I wrote was not as good as I

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thought it could be. And you know, and so a

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smaller percentage of things that we get cut as far

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as whether they're for an artist or not. So let

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me speak to where I am now, and that is

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that I'm writing by my I don't co write. I

475
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,480
don't really co write at all. And in the you know,

476
00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:06,279
in country music, it's really common for people to get

477
00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,359
together sometimes four or five people. I don't I did

478
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,279
for a long time. And that's not to say that

479
00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:14,759
I wouldn't ever, but my approach to it is different.

480
00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:18,720
I think of songwriting a bit like like approaching a

481
00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:22,119
canvas as an artist. It's because it's sometimes easier for

482
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,319
people to see visually imagine what I'm doing with a song.

483
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,839
And so as an artist, if I sit down out

484
00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:31,119
of canvas, I've got to decide what I'm gonna You know, what,

485
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,000
what am I gonna do with it? It's it's it's blank.

486
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:35,200
I can do anything I want. So am I gonna

487
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,559
throw paint at it? Am I gonna take a charcoal

488
00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,680
pencil and start a sketch down at the bottom corner.

489
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,640
Am I gonna look off at the mountains and say, Hm,

490
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,200
I'm gonna paint that whole mountain side? Or am I

491
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,519
gonna paint just the one flower that's right in front

492
00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:51,519
of me off to the left and decide to make

493
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,640
that the entire painting. All those are decisions that you

494
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,920
know that as a songwriter I make. I think, similarly

495
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,880
to an artist, what is the most powerful, at least

496
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,160
for me, what's the most powerful images and feeling? Which

497
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,359
is very important in what we do because it's affected

498
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,640
by music. The way that we say things and what

499
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,400
we choose to say, and what happens with the music.

500
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,559
Now we've kind of got into where not only is

501
00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:22,960
it artistry, but it's like cinema because in your own head,

502
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:26,440
hopefully in some ways, I'm painting some pictures and I

503
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,960
have to leave you room to put your own life

504
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,839
in it, you know. And So although I know that's

505
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,720
a little more in depth, and some songwriters will tell you,

506
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,759
I've found that, after writing many hundreds of songs, and

507
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,279
especially with what we've written recently, that I'm able to

508
00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:44,680
write the kinds of songs that I really believe in.

509
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,799
And when I finish it, I look at it and

510
00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:49,400
I go, did I say what I wanted to say

511
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,759
just the way I wanted to say it? Is there

512
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:55,160
a hole or not somewhere? Was I absolutely true to

513
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,519
what it's like to be human? Did I illuminate where

514
00:24:58,519 --> 00:25:03,160
we are similarly human and therefore a really strong bond.

515
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,240
Was I able to tell that story in a way

516
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:07,279
so you didn't have to know everything I knew about

517
00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:10,119
the characters. You just had to know what I told you,

518
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,119
you know, And what was going on with the music. Well,

519
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,480
I mean, this is something I've spent my life, my

520
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:17,799
life doing. But the other thing that you, you know,

521
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,960
you kind of ask is whether it comes up, whether

522
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,400
it's music or whether it's the look, the words, or

523
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,759
or what what is first? And truly what's first is

524
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:30,279
whatever's first, you know. So you know, so for instance,

525
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,200
road Dog's just a fun song. But even fun songs,

526
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,960
they've got to be still put together the right way

527
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,279
and they have to make sense. The music has to

528
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,240
make sense with the lyrics as far as how they

529
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:43,079
feel and you know, the voice of it. And so

530
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:45,519
I had just had that, like there's a kind of

531
00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:48,200
a guitar riff that runs throughout that, And by riff

532
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,079
I mean like a you know, like a movement, a

533
00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,599
certain thing that repeats with the groove of the song.

534
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000
And this turns into a Nashville pickfest on this radio.

535
00:25:56,039 --> 00:26:00,359
It's right. It is like every wonderful player in Ashville,

536
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,160
I mean really incredible players. Jenney Fleeener Is of ACN one,

537
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,000
I don't know how many times in a row fiddle player,

538
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:11,839
and Josh Betheni on dobro and Brent Mason on electric guitar,

539
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,759
just on and on, and you know, you can't know

540
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,920
that's going to happen. But you got to put it

541
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,279
together in a way that if that does happen, it's

542
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,599
going to hold up, you know. So here I had this,

543
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,640
All I had was a little bit of a musical movement.

544
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,519
Didn't know what I would do with it. Walked out

545
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:30,519
to my truck less a bit of a truck that

546
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:32,880
I loved so much because I realized how much I

547
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,640
loved my dog, and I didn't care if my truck

548
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:38,279
was full there, you know. And then it just as

549
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:41,039
I was driving home that you know, lick was kind

550
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,160
of in my mind and I started messing with it.

551
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,640
And I can do a lot of that. I played

552
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,359
guitar long enough that I can think through a lot

553
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960
of things without actually having to play it. I can,

554
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,000
you know, put chords and movements and things in my head.

555
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:55,200
One so on the way home, I was writing it.

556
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,400
You know, it wasn't all the way finished by the

557
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,799
time I got home. But then I played it for,

558
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,920
you know, for Linda, and she made me play it

559
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,559
four or three times, and I didn't even have the

560
00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:05,839
whole thing, you know, And so I still had quite

561
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,680
a bit of work to do on that song for

562
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,640
it to be for it to be finished as it

563
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,920
should have. But that's just one instance of the way

564
00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:16,839
that it grew up. And whether or not there were

565
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,160
two choruses, two different courses in this song. There's actually

566
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,480
two different choruses, and then they're both sung the second

567
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,359
half of the song. I think there's only two verses.

568
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,240
But I got to, you know, I got to say

569
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,000
things like, you know, a backseat driver with a pedigree.

570
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:33,119
I mean that's that. You know, those kinds of things

571
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,599
are fun right right right for a writer, those you know,

572
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,200
those are the kind of things. Yeah. So, And I

573
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,920
have to say this only because Tim, I listened to

574
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,720
some of your previous podcasts and I really, I really,

575
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,599
you know, I just like your way and the way

576
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,640
you talk. But I was gonna jokingly say, you know,

577
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,200
one thing about the road Dog video is that I

578
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,799
think Shotgun may be the only dog in history who

579
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,480
has ever lifted his leg on Q in a video.

580
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Nice. Well, I always say, our dogs and animals train us,

581
00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:08,799
We never trained them. So he definitely brought that song

582
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,799
to you. And you know I mentioned earlier about the video.

583
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,720
Before I saw the video, I heard it, you know,

584
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:16,400
listen to the song even before I even broke it down.

585
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,759
In my little simple mind, I could feel myself driving

586
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,480
down a country road with my dog beside me, you know,

587
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,200
and it had to be a pickup truck. Was I

588
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,599
was sort of the words and the music and how

589
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,880
it moved along drove me to think of that, paint

590
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,440
that picture, as you said, in my mind. And then

591
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:34,640
later I turned on the video and I thought, wow,

592
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,559
I'm brilliant. That's exactly what I was envisioning, not maybe

593
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:40,640
one hundred and some dogs, but everything else was what

594
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,279
I was envisioning when I took a look at the videos.

595
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know how I say, like, like I

596
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,599
said earlier that I try to leave room for you

597
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,079
to put your own life into a song, you know,

598
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,240
so a song like road Dog, I don't want to

599
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,720
give such specific images that you can't put your own

600
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:57,559
life in it and your own dog in it, you know.

601
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:01,519
So for me, it was truck. And I do say

602
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:03,599
truck stop in there, I mean the big truck, but

603
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,640
I never said what kind of vehicle we're in. I

604
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,759
don't think I said that in the you know, in

605
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:11,000
the song. And to leave it with things that were

606
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:14,200
universal to you know, to dogs. I mean what dog

607
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,839
doesn't like, you know, a drive through. At some point,

608
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:20,880
at some point, everybody is given their dog or everybody

609
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,480
everybody we trust, right right, dog something from a drive through.

610
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:28,319
You know, I don't know. It's just life, as they said.

611
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,960
You know you've seen it. But truly life is better

612
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,599
with a dog or dogs. If you are someone who

613
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,160
is compassionate, you know enough to really have a good

614
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,920
relationship with a dog, then it can be one of

615
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,000
the most incredible relationships of your lives.

616
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:46,839
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And if you're not compassionate in that way, you

617
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,000
better get yourself a dog. That dog will turn your

618
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,720
compassion out or cat.

619
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,359
Speaker 4: Or whatever it may be.

620
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,599
Speaker 1: They'll bring it down in you, that's for sure. So

621
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,440
the big question, though, Skip, is when you're in that

622
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:58,279
old white truck with dirt all over it and you

623
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,480
got Shotgun right in there, and the missus side she

624
00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:03,960
wants to go on down to the seven to eleven

625
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,400
with you, who gets the middle seat and who gets

626
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,680
to ride Shotgun? Well, I've got to tell you, I've

627
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,079
got a.

628
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 4: Thing about letting Shotgun ride in the shotgun seat when

629
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,400
we're not on the back roads. I just I'm one

630
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,240
who doesn't really think that's the safest thing to do.

631
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,359
So our driveway is almost a mile long. And we

632
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:25,920
you know, we live in northwestern Wyoming, and I mean,

633
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,279
honestly we live where there are rocky mountain sheep in

634
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,559
the driveway. That's wow. And then we've got another eight

635
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,400
miles at least to the main road that's all just

636
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:40,839
dirt and gravel, and you know, it's a two lane

637
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,039
road that nobody goes. You can't go fan. You just

638
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:46,599
can't go fast on it. You know, if he wants

639
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,000
to be in the front seat and stick his head

640
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,599
out the window roll he wants to ride in the

641
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,519
in the side by side with me out on the

642
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,319
trails or whatever, and then we'll do that. Not stuff

643
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,440
pillows down in front of the seat so he could

644
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,240
put his paws up on it enough, because otherwise is

645
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,440
way too big for that. But yeah, once it gets

646
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,839
past that, tim pretty much the back seat gets folded up.

647
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:09,039
He can live back there on his you know. And

648
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,279
because we have two dogs, we have Holly and and

649
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,920
Shotgun right now, and they're both big and there's no

650
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,759
question about whether Mom gets Mom or Dad depending on

651
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:18,880
which one of us is driving, is in the Shotgun seat.

652
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,319
So it's still his seat. He just doesn't get to

653
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,599
ride on it at those times. I love it. I

654
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,160
love it well.

655
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: I have to envision my life skip with my wife

656
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,359
and I have been together for almost forty years. Yeah

657
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:32,640
we were just infants when it all happened, but in

658
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,759
any case, we have two schnaus or so smaller dogs.

659
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,720
And the little princess white one has always sat in

660
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,640
the front seat next to me. She's harnessed in and secure,

661
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,240
everything's good. And then our boy who just passed away recently,

662
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:48,119
our chocolate Schnauzerer, Mama's boy, Kramer.

663
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,799
Speaker 4: He's always in the back seat with Mama.

664
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:53,119
Speaker 1: So now we don't have Kramer with us unfortunately, and

665
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:55,920
body he's with us the spirit, of course, Mama is

666
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,720
still in the back seat. So it's me and the

667
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,799
little ten pound white dog in the front seat and

668
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,440
I'm sitting in the back. So I think you're gonna

669
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:04,480
get away with that now.

670
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,039
Speaker 4: That healthy. That's the thing. If it makes you and

671
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:10,720
it makes them happy, it's sometimes the simplest, just the

672
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:14,680
simplest things that bring the right kind of joy, you know,

673
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,400
And man, if you've got that, just don't just don't

674
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,839
mess with it. Just you know, just have it. Just

675
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,960
take your breath and all that's going on and go, dang,

676
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,480
this is great. You know, that's it. That's it.

677
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,839
Speaker 1: Well, join us in with We are one of the

678
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:30,279
many of the hundreds of thousands of your fans. And

679
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,960
also we're all the thousands that ride around everywhere we

680
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,880
go with our dogs, so we're in good company. And

681
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,759
the next time you put your wife puts together of

682
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:40,359
the next video and you need one of the one

683
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,839
hundred and twenty dogs or something, just to shoot me

684
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,240
a note.

685
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: You know, I think some special things are coming, I

686
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,920
really do. So if you follow us on socials like

687
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,359
and we'll certainly follow you as well. But if you

688
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,799
if you will follow us on on socials and it's

689
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,920
just skip youing. I mean, every one of them is

690
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,240
just skip e W I n G. There are going

691
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:00,640
to be some special things that are going to happen.

692
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,839
I don't know all of them, but there are so

693
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,079
many different radio stations in different cities across the US

694
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:09,519
where there's going to be things happening with them doing

695
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:13,079
some videos with us, and you know, so there could

696
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,519
be some really fun stuff and gosh knows what kind

697
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,960
of you know, what kind of companies or situations might

698
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:24,279
want to do some fun things with us. So who knows, Tim,

699
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,920
maybe your dog will be a star.

700
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Just put it out there to

701
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:32,200
the universe. So everybody, download the songs, download the album,

702
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:35,759
follow skip skip youing on social media. We can go

703
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,480
to what skipueing dot com. I'm assuming to find out

704
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:41,839
about everything that you've done, your history, their life and

705
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,160
in a nutshell, as well as tour dates and things happening.

706
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:46,319
So if you get a chance to go out and

707
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:50,359
see skip, definitely do that for sure. And meanwhile, download

708
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,839
Road to California the whole thing, and definitely put Road

709
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,599
Dog at the top of your list because it's a

710
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,799
fun little jam. Man.

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Speaker 4: There's actually and it's the first time we've ever put

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anything on an album that had to do with dogs,

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But there's literally a second song on this album that

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is specifically about dogs.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Tim. If you have the record, go to the I

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don't know if it's the ninth cut or whatever, but

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it's called wag More. You're gonna have to check it out.

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It's fun. So that's another thing that might happen with dogs.

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I don't know. It's just that so weight came down

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this time. I just they those ideas just happened to

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be hanging out there.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, Once you put a song out about dogs

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and you slap your brilliant one on the cover, for sure,

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it's always going to be that way. They're always gonna

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expect at least one dog sog from you.

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Speaker 4: Skip.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just letting you know that right off the bat.

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Speaker 4: I'm not promising that, but I am promised with the

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single Road Dog when we do concerts. That's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, everybody go out and make sure you follow Skip.

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Go to the website Skip uion dot com and following

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see when he's going to be near you or in

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your town. Download Road to California and take a listen

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to wag Moore right in Road Dog and all the

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I want to want. Skip, fantastic talking to you. I love,

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I really do love love what you do, love the album.

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I love your spirit. I love the fact that you

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took a step back to find yourself and now you're

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you're better and ever I'm swinging for the fences. So

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just keep it up, brother, You're doing great job.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Tim. I hope I get a chance to talk

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to you again.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we'll look forward. You got to write something about

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a dog or a horse though, you know, to get

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on this gig.

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Speaker 4: So that's more to see there you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, well we're coming in the show today. I

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Radio dot com. So until next time, write a great

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