WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:00.960 Oh better that. 2 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:33.119 H Trigger Warner. 3 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:37.719 This podcast may include explicit content that will take you 4 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.399 out of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 5 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.840 Listener's discretion is advised. 6 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:16.680 How did folks, your host double jback here, coming at 7 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:22.319 you live SLASH Live from my studio slash RV dining 8 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:28.079 room located directly inside America. Welcome back, folks of the 9 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:32.640 airwebs once again, JJ Vance here host of Operation GCD, 10 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.239 but perhaps more notably not the Vice President. I will 11 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:41.680 be your pilot navigator here tonight, folks, for this shenani 12 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:46.560 and infused journey into the mind of this particular garbage can. Dude, 13 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.959 got a real barnburger on deck for your for you 14 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:51.599 folks of the inner webs here tonight. 15 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:56.799 So appreciate you, folks. Uh, you know, thanks for joining. 16 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:58.519 Us here again to get a little GCD because we 17 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:02.719 got accult an so so terror review of the nineteen 18 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:07.840 eighty five cinematic masterpiece Back to the Future with an 19 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:13.919 entire Occult Rejects lineup, including Nick, host of the Occult Rejects. 20 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:17.120 Welcome Nick, Thank you, welcome, sir. You know I would 21 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:18.719 have been really upset if you didn't consider this one 22 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.800 a bar burner. I swear to God, I even had 23 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:22.120 that in my head. If he does not use barm 24 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:23.439 burner for this, I'm gonna say something. 25 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:26.599 No, this is definitely this is definitely a barn Burger. 26 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:27.680 This is definitely a barn Burger. 27 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:28.000 Yeah. 28 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:29.280 And we got a whole, like I said, a whole 29 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:33.719 occult rejects lineup so here to get GCD. We got 30 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.280 jent Ope that's not Jen the Ninja, wrong one and 31 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.280 Jen the Ninja Welcome, Welcome Jen. 32 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:41.599 Thank you so muchj and Nick for having me on. 33 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.560 And I absolutely love doing these episodes. I know people 34 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.960 on Twitter are always so excited when it's like a 35 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:51.080 group of us. I think it's like the five for me. 36 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:53.520 I know I won't give your secret away, Nick, but 37 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.280 I know I'm the Carl. What episode we use a 38 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.080 different hermetic number? I should say we, but someone did. 39 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:01.560 But five for me is a perfect traumatic number. So 40 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:05.400 I appreciate that we can do these kind of roundtable 41 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.400 esoteric reviews, and I think they're really hot and people 42 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.560 love them. So thank you so much for guys for 43 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:11.159 having me on. 44 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.439 Oh for sure, host of the Threshold Saints and the 45 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.000 fellow occult reject there and I definitely appreciate your all 46 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:18.039 insight in the last one. 47 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:18.479 We did well. 48 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:19.199 We've done a couple of. 49 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:22.400 Good ones recently, right, we did a little uh, Big Trouble, 50 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.280 Little China, and we also did a little Golden Child, 51 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:29.919 So those are great ones. I enjoyed those myself. Next 52 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.039 time we got I do you Love? Host of the 53 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:34.599 Unfiltered Rise podcast and fellow a cult reject. 54 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:35.719 How you doing, Heidi? 55 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:36.280 Welcome. 56 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:37.879 I'm happy for joining media Llow GCD. 57 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:41.560 Here your first appearance, by the way, Yeah, I'm excited 58 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:43.680 to be here and on Operation at GCD. 59 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.639 That is right, right, because we've done Fridays, this is 60 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:48.759 a different one and we're just always together. 61 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:53.560 It's so fun countless other cult reject shows, right, So, 62 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:56.719 if you can introduce the Unfiltered Rise podcast to the 63 00:03:56.759 --> 00:04:00.400 Operation GCD audience that perhaps is not familiar. 64 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:04.000 Absolutely so. I'm Heidi Love of the Unfiltered Rise. I'm 65 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:07.520 also an ex Mormon, just like JJ, and I talk 66 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:09.719 a lot about that on my show, but I also 67 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:13.719 do kind of a whole multitude of different things. Anything 68 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:17.240 that strikes my fancy, especially like Mormon mafia, weird stuff 69 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:17.600 like that. 70 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:19.839 You know, it's a garbage can too. 71 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:25.800 And some great parapolitics stuff, especially relative to the from JFK. 72 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:26.839 To Whitewater, et cetera. 73 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:28.959 And I think you know, I have a general annoised 74 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.199 theory that everything kind of goes back through that Whitewater 75 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.879 threading to JFK. So what we're dealing with today. 76 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.959 That is absolutely absolutely well. 77 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.199 Thank you guys for being here. I love everyone here, 78 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:41.759 all the rejects and boss. 79 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:43.839 Thank you, there you go. 80 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.480 Thank you last, but not least, and no particular order 81 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.639 a cos me pete. Julia, welcome to Operation GCD. Your 82 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.360 first appearance as well. Much like Heidi, we've done some 83 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:56.079 Fridays and plenty of Occult reject shows, but thanks for joining. 84 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:57.759 Me yetle BCD. There Julia looking. 85 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:02.079 Forward to We did the Golden Child gather right, Holy smokes, 86 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:03.040 you were on the gold seat. 87 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:04.040 Now here we go. 88 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:06.519 I was just telling Hidi yesterday about that Ed Cassis 89 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:09.439 show we were doing Occult Rejects. I thought she was there, 90 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:11.759 so I keep I keep replacing who was in these shows, 91 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:12.519 so I do apology. 92 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:14.800 Everybody here could probably even a test how many times 93 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:16.199 I'll text him be like, did I ask you for 94 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.120 this show? I can't even remember even I write it down, 95 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:19.879 I forget there. 96 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.600 I mean not not just one second there, Julia. Yesterday 97 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:27.120 I was in a podcast with doing some Mormon paradpolitics 98 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:31.519 and society Cincinnati conversations on the sixth Century podcast with Heidi. 99 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:32.839 There was a fellow guest. 100 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:34.920 And I kept referencing in the show that that show 101 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.920 what we did with ed Cassis and she she finally says, 102 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:38.399 I wasn't there. 103 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:39.879 I was like, go, shoot, you weren't there? 104 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:42.399 Like, how long do I play along with this? 105 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:45.000 This is my favorite thing? 106 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.240 He said in my brain, you were there, you should 107 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.199 have been there, And I'm like, I was off of work. 108 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:50.160 I just didn't know. 109 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:53.040 Oh yeah, shoot I was. 110 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:54.240 I apologize, Julia. 111 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.000 No, It's it's all good in the hood. I'm just 112 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:01.680 happy to be here. I'm for this movie. I got 113 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.839 a lot of cool notes and what the fuck's up everybody? 114 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:07.000 I'm excited. 115 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.079 What's the What's what's going on the Cosmic Peach podcast 116 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:12.639 as of late? 117 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:14.560 What's the focus? 118 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:15.920 I'm actually the. 119 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.000 Subjects you've been interested as As a late. 120 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:22.439 I'm working on a I don't know if I'm gonna 121 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:24.480 do three or four parts, because I always try to 122 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.600 do four parts, but this one might be three parts. 123 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:29.560 But I'm working on a new series about sleep paralysis 124 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:37.480 and uh, demonic and paranormal experiences. So that's a new 125 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.519 focus right now, and that that series should be dropping 126 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:44.839 next month. So I'm actually really excited about that. 127 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:49.279 That's so exciting for you. Again, I appreciate y'all joining me. 128 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.120 I got to one plug real quick, real fast before 129 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:55.959 we get started, and that's uh my upcoming Sunday show 130 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:00.360 eight pm on Sundays, Operation GCD Live Sundays, and first 131 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:04.319 first episode this Sundays, the Curse of Robert the Doll. 132 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:09.319 So this is my uh Patreon my new Patreon series 133 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.120 here on Sunday, So that'll be in the show notes 134 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:13.519 along with all your all's links as well. 135 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:14.360 You know, what the hell is he? 136 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:15.279 Where are you scared? 137 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:15.639 Though? 138 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:18.519 Are you scared to start that crap up over there? 139 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:18.879 I don't. 140 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.199 I don't like looking at a photo of Robert. 141 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.079 That's why I muppetize him in the first place, even 142 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.000 though I've been on a real muppet trend as of late. 143 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:26.480 But yeah, I don't. 144 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.759 Uh, I sleep well at night, but thinking about this 145 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:31.279 damn thing and the curse, I don't know if I 146 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:34.439 sleep that great the last couple of nights. But I'm 147 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:38.279 looking at an I was about to say, speaking of 148 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.680 sleep foralysis, Robert might be haunting me in that too. No, 149 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:44.160 I'm trying to approach it. This more of a cathartic experience. 150 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:44.399 I know. 151 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.959 Uh, Julia had It invited me onto her show to 152 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.040 discuss the matter. I'm like, all right, well, let me 153 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:50.920 get all my thoughts on it firstly, put it down 154 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:52.399 in order, and then I'll be happy. I'll be happy 155 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:55.759 to join you there, Julie. After the Sunday's The Curse 156 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:56.560 of the Robert. 157 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:58.279 Doll operations sounds good. 158 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:03.240 So, but tonight we're talking about the nineteen eighty five 159 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:08.360 cinematic masterpiece, Back to the Future. And I believe this 160 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:12.079 really started, uh to a conversation. I mean, We've been 161 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.519 doing these occult esoteric views here. I'm a big fan 162 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:17.800 of film and just telling stories and the way stories 163 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.040 are told in the first place, and you know and 164 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.079 kind of uh, you know these I love the ideas 165 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:24.879 of time. So this this, you know, this movie has 166 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.040 always been a big, big interest of mine. But this 167 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.360 really started off with a conversation Nick and I had. 168 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.120 I think we were doing some disc golfing, and he 169 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.759 was making a reference to how how often or the 170 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:39.000 the use of the term. 171 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:40.399 Spooky that I that I was. 172 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.360 I often call the la you know, the intelligent sagancies 173 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:49.120 or lack of intelligence agencies, the I call them, you know, spooky, 174 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.960 you know, spooky operations, et cetera. And Uh, Nick, you know, 175 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:54.759 Nick thought I was you know, at first we heard 176 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.039 me saying that he was telling me that he thought 177 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.440 I was making some sort of derogatory and racial reference 178 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:00.320 of some of your I. 179 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:01.840 Was like, when I was a kid and I heard 180 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:06.159 my whatever grown ups say that it was that was. 181 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.720 A common note nomenclature there a few decades ago for 182 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.360 you know, for some you know, but I I suppose 183 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:12.399 about the same as. 184 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:12.960 The N word, right. 185 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:14.440 Yeah. 186 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:15.960 So as soon as he said that to me, I 187 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.080 thought of the film Back to the Future. So I 188 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.759 was like, oh, well, yeah, just like Back to the Future. Right, 189 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.840 So that's kind of That's kind of what where he 190 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:26.159 and I first started talking about the Uh there's a 191 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:29.080 cult esoteric review of uh the film. But I'd like 192 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:32.799 to hear where we're y'all were first interested in in this, 193 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.840 you know, starting off, Nick, where where did. Uh you know, 194 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:37.600 was this a film you were always a big fan 195 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.399 of since you were a child, or did you see 196 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:40.000 this in the theaters? 197 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:42.480 I don't think I saw it in the theaters, but no, 198 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:44.240 I mean it was definitely a movie that I had, 199 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.600 like on a VHS tape that I watched multiple times, 200 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.519 you know. Yeah, it was a classic for me. Yeah, yeah, 201 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.919 that that in the second one I did. I did 202 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:54.840 enjoy it. Everyone was a little because of the train, 203 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:56.200 but I did. 204 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:56.360 Uh. 205 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.200 Yeah, it was. It was huge. I mean I feel like, 206 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:01.919 maybe what was that eighty five, so I was seven. 207 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:06.519 I mean around that time. I think it's kind of 208 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.039 silly how I felt like at that time you were 209 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.279 kind of seeing the world spring I think forward in 210 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.919 a sense too, Like it's hard to explain, but around 211 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:16.600 that time, I even feel like with music and just 212 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.480 what was going on in the world, it was changing 213 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:21.000 as well, So I guess like that was like, oh, 214 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:23.360 this is what's to come in the future. I don't know, 215 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.399 it just seemed very nostalgic, you know, at the time, 216 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:33.720 even watching it then. But yeah, that's all I got. 217 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.399 I think jj frowzp I cut out. 218 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.000 Yeah, yeah, no, I there was a very sci fi 219 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.679 futuristic aspect to this. I remember as a child thinking, like, 220 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.039 especially with the second one, I'm gonna I'm gonna need 221 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:47.639 me one of those hoverboards, you know what I mean? 222 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:50.399 Like, you know there's things will be around in the future, right, 223 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:50.840 you know what I mean. 224 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:53.720 It's kind of funny because twenty fifteen is much like 225 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.360 the I don't think we've really gotten that more technologically 226 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.240 advanced outside of some cell phone right technologies, Right, it's 227 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:00.240 big of. 228 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:06.919 Exactly. Yeah, it's not like we thought. Yeah, no, I. 229 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:08.360 Said, I think this was the first film that I 230 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:10.440 ever saw at the theater. I know, I know, I 231 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:11.759 saw the second one in the theater, and like you 232 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:14.000 were saying, I wore the VHS out on this one 233 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:16.440 for sure. I'm pretty sure this was the first film 234 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:19.799 I saw at the theater, but I would have been 235 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:24.759 I would have been almost six. So, Jen, Jen, when 236 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.799 did when did you first find out you're a big, 237 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:30.559 big fan of Back to the Future. Is this something 238 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:32.759 you've been a big fan of? Is you know your 239 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:34.399 whole life as a child or what are you talking 240 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:34.840 about here? 241 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.759 So I'm a nineties kid, obviously, and I watched it 242 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.759 in the nineties, and I think I liked it, Like 243 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.919 it's to me, I wasn't sure, like when you were like, 244 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:47.240 do you want to do this? Of course I want 245 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:50.799 to do our movie reviews. It's like the most fun 246 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:55.360 thing we do pretty much everybody, right, So you know, 247 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:56.879 of course I want to do it. But I didn't 248 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:58.720 know how much I could add to it for through 249 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:02.039 this film, simply because of my unfamiliarity with it. But 250 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.639 then Nick, being the great boss that he is, sent 251 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:08.279 me his great notes and I was like, oh, okay, 252 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:11.320 You're like yeah, okay, And then I was like, yeah, 253 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:13.639 this actually totally makes sense. This is like I can 254 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:17.279 follow his bolistic logic from like beginning to end, and 255 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:18.879 I was like, yeah, these are the same things that 256 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:23.440 I thought were really interesting. So I mean, I feel 257 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.360 like I'll just be more riffing tonight and like let 258 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.720 everybody else who is really into the film that go, 259 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.679 but I definitely will like how I'll add where I 260 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.799 have to add. And so for me, back to the 261 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.559 future is we'll call it true Chino because I know 262 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:42.519 you love that JJ for this you know, esoteric or 263 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:46.039 cult review, but I'm not sure if it's a true 264 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.919 Chino for me. But I really liked it, I have 265 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.279 to say, in rewatch, like which is just yesterday. So 266 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.799 I enjoyed it. I thought it was weird and as 267 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:05.559 eighties as I remembered, right, and maybe sorry JJ, no. 268 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:07.600 I'll say, so, when did you pers So you saw 269 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:09.919 kind of the whole trilogy? Then maybe you know all 270 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:11.720 at once then, right, you didn't have to wait between 271 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:12.279 the trilogies. 272 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:16.240 Then it's interesting because I even watched the trilogy in 273 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.799 anticipation for this episode because I was like I needed 274 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:20.799 to kind of know, like I have to know the canon, 275 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.600 like have a familiarity with like the text. Right, So 276 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:30.679 I guess I must have watched them on VHS or DVD, 277 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:35.320 because like I'm more DVD era. But yeah, we definitely 278 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.200 I definitely had VHS. I'm kidding, so, but I must 279 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:39.480 have watched. 280 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:41.159 But there was no antist You didn't have to wait 281 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:43.559 like anticipating the next one coming out there, right, because 282 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.080 there was always the to be continued with a like 283 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:47.399 a cliffhanger scene. 284 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:47.639 Right the end. 285 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:49.840 No, So I'm not, I'm not. I'm not old enough 286 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.000 to yet be like affected by the cliffhanger. 287 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:53.360 Right. 288 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:55.840 That was very impactful on my childhood, and I'm not 289 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:01.759 I was very hyped, very hyped. So so, Julia, when 290 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:03.799 did you first discover the Back to the Future And 291 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.320 were you in a similar situation as Jen where you 292 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:08.639 weren't left with a bunch of cliffhangers because I'd asked 293 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.159 the same to hide? Yeah, I think I know the answer. 294 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:17.960 Well, shit, I just turned thirty, but I still identify 295 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:22.480 as twenty nine. My pronouns are forever and young. And 296 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:27.559 so my my brother and sister grew up in the eighties, 297 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.399 and so when I was really little, they would play 298 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.559 like all the great eighties movies. For me, I didn't 299 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:35.919 have to wait. I just watched them all. Back to 300 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:37.840 back to back, Back to the Future, Back to the 301 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.159 Future two, Back to the Future three. My favorite is 302 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:45.039 actually car Probably no, it's the first one. In the 303 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.720 third one, actually, did you see what? 304 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:48.879 Did you grow up with that? There was? 305 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:49.039 That? 306 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:52.039 Was that a cartoon in your childhood too? What the 307 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:53.600 cartoon version of Back to the Future? 308 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.960 I never fucked with it, but I will say I 309 00:14:57.159 --> 00:15:01.279 was super obsessed with the movies, and actually I kind 310 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.120 of had like a little bit of a crush on 311 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:06.080 Michael J. Fox there for a minute because it was 312 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:09.200 like teen Wolf and like some of those other like 313 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:15.159 really cool eighties movies that he was doing. And so yeah, 314 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.039 gee for sure, And I actually have a little bit 315 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.519 of a story about that when we get into like 316 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.639 stuff about the movie with Michael J. 317 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:23.120 Fox. 318 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:27.159 But yeah, no, dude, I loved Back to the Future 319 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:28.960 the first one. In the third one, like I said, 320 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.799 my fave. I didn't grow up in the eighties, but 321 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:36.000 I definitely fucked with it heavy. I love all the 322 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:36.840 eighties stuff. 323 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:42.000 Nice, nice, well, last but not least hide, He went, 324 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.679 when did you discover the Back to the Futures? And 325 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.919 were you as affected by these cliffhangers as I was? 326 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.279 Oh, definitely. I think I'm the oldest one on the panel. 327 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:57.200 So I was like, this is crazy cool, and like, oh, 328 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:00.000 I hope we have flying cars and all this fun. 329 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.159 The second one, like it was just yeah. The third one, 330 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.639 You're right, it's just not it doesn't hit the third 331 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:08.799 one love me anyway. 332 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:11.519 Yeah, so but it was so I appreciate more than 333 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:12.440 I like other sequels. 334 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:14.000 But I agree with you. I think the first two 335 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.840 or they were more of a home run. I think, yeah, 336 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:17.360 so good. 337 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.120 How can you not like the third one. It's like 338 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:21.679 the perfect. 339 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.840 Ending, the good one about that Doc. 340 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.480 They I mean, they ended it enough for me to 341 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.679 be satisfied with their not being a fourth one. 342 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:33.960 They're making a remake, supposedly. 343 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.720 I'm not interested in a remake. They ruin everything and 344 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.320 they put their woke bullshit in it. When they make remakes, 345 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.320 they're going to cast a black guy to play Marty 346 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:48.360 McFly and they're gonna have some tranny playing. 347 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:49.799 Doc And I don't want it. 348 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:51.440 I just don't want it. 349 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:52.600 Leave it alone. 350 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:55.600 It's funny you mentioned that. It's funny you mentioned that, Julie. 351 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.120 Have you you all familiar with the Back to the 352 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:59.799 Future musical that's that has a big thing. 353 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.000 Is there a tranny playing Doc Brown? Because I don't 354 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:03.480 want to know. 355 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:04.720 No. 356 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:06.880 But much like in this film we've discussed. 357 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:08.720 In the Back to the Future film, you know, it's 358 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:11.000 weird that Marty McFly goes back in time and he's 359 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:13.160 kind of like got a thing with his mother's got 360 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:14.559 falls in love with him, and so there's this kind 361 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.200 of incestual thing. Well, in the Broadway musical version and 362 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.359 the Broadway musical version, I think he went back in 363 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:21.839 time and his dad had. 364 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:22.279 A thing for him. 365 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:27.039 Oh no, said that it's not overtly that way. But 366 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:28.839 like I mean, I'll show you a clip here just 367 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:30.519 you know, standing by police one second. 368 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:34.359 Yike, I got a I got a clip of exactly 369 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:37.759 what is not gay? 370 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:40.640 Well, well, the Broadway version probably is. But I hear 371 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:42.839 what you're saying, so isn't it it is? It is 372 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:45.079 kind of fascinating how much this is spawned a cultural 373 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:48.000 phenomenon there, right, like this this film, you know here 374 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:51.119 it is you know, forty years you know later, right 375 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.759 almost right? I think was July third of nineteen eighty five, 376 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:56.039 right that they released this film. 377 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:02.480 So you know, it's crazy still right, and it's it's 378 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.319 still very impactful because, like I said, they're doing Broadway musicals. 379 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:08.880 You know, if you all recall in the film, you know, 380 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.799 in the in the sequels they go to October fifteenth, 381 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.319 twenty fifteen, right, which. 382 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:19.519 Everybody freaked out on that, for example life on Instagram. 383 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.200 Oh it's October fifteen, two thousand fifty. 384 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:24.160 Well they even did things like I Got a clipper. 385 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:25.960 They even did things like this on the Jimmy Kimmel 386 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:26.759 Show on that date. 387 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:37.720 WHOA of course, to my calculations, this is the year 388 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.200 two thousan fifteen, Mardy the Future. 389 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:47.599 That's so I mean, you know this was you know, 390 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:50.200 it's right, wrong or different whenever you think of Jimmy Kimmel. 391 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.119 That's a big audience. They're doing this on, you know, 392 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:53.160 as a you know. 393 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:56.599 Tribute to this culture that was created, I think, and 394 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:58.559 it is the sci fi culture in general, but I 395 00:18:58.559 --> 00:18:59.880 mean it is specifically this film. 396 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:00.400 I think. 397 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:02.960 I think the esoteric elements that we're going to be 398 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:05.440 discussing here this evening, some of these occult and or 399 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.920 esoteric elements, is these these things that are embedded in 400 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:10.960 the storyline of the film is what makes it so 401 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:13.680 much time you know time, you know, standing through time 402 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:16.119 as far as being a good story, great you know, 403 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:21.000 told in a great film, right, And yeah, I mean 404 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.279 I don't know what uh, I don't know. I've ever 405 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:25.000 met someone who's like, oh, yeah, back to the I've 406 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.680 seen Back to Future and it's super dumb, you know 407 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:28.359 what I mean, Like because I think you see that 408 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:29.759 with some of the air sci fi stuff. But I 409 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:31.519 mean it is a very wide what I'm saying has 410 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:34.880 a wide ranging audience for sci fi folks, right, Like 411 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:36.920 you don't have to be a Star Wars person or 412 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.039 a Star Trek person to be kind of, you know, 413 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:42.119 into this, I think, into this idea of back to 414 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:44.279 the Future and time travel and it's so. 415 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:46.119 Embedded in pop culture. 416 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:49.680 Oh sorry, no, that's okay, Please go ahead. 417 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:52.359 Oh I was just gonna say, it's so embedded in 418 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:55.680 pop culture, you know, like a lot of movies still 419 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:00.799 reference things from Back to the Future. So yeah, it's 420 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:04.160 it's definitely timeless for. 421 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.440 Sure, Jim were what were gonna say there? 422 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.440 Basically just echoing both you and Julia's thing that it was. 423 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:13.279 It's it's a cultural phenomenon. Like, and I agree with you, 424 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:16.319 this film has such wide ranging appeal. But I didn't 425 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:19.000 actually think of it as a sci fi film. I 426 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.200 was of and but it is. But it really is 427 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.720 a science speculative fiction film. Maybe not a science fiction 428 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:28.599 film as we would like normally think of it, maybe 429 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:30.960 not like total recall science fiction, but it is a 430 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:34.279 speculative fiction So from that angle, actually, now I'm like 431 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.599 very like, oh, okay, can like that? 432 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:40.279 Am I back? 433 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:42.000 Yeah you're back. 434 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:43.480 Did you hear what Jin said? 435 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:44.599 Yeah? 436 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:47.119 No, I just started storming here, real real bad. What 437 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:48.839 were you saying? Jim, can you can you repeat that 438 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:49.119 for me? 439 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:49.759 Oh? 440 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:51.880 Yeah, no problem, jj. I just was saying, it is 441 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.519 a sci fi film, but it's more of a speculative 442 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:58.960 fiction film. Then it's like a total recall, which would 443 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.599 be like a high science fiction because of sudden space 444 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.640 philipkay Dick's travel. Right, So this is really a speculative 445 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.119 fiction film. So people don't You're totally right. And when 446 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.640 you said that, people don't have to enjoy science fiction 447 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:14.200 to go watch this film. But the film really is oxial, 448 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:16.759 like science fiction is oxial to the whole film. 449 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:18.440 Absolutely. 450 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:21.160 I'm glad to pointed that out because because when not 451 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:24.279 before before we get into the actual you know, characters 452 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:26.680 and plotline of the film, I'm gonna I would like 453 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:28.119 to say this on our own little. 454 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.000 Trip back to the future and go over. 455 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.079 How this sci fi stuff began and how this stuff 456 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.559 was impacted in which to the culture which to even 457 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:35.279 create this film? 458 00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:35.440 Right? 459 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:37.240 What what what's the backstory on that? 460 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:37.480 Right? 461 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:37.720 How? 462 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:41.279 How did the how did the nature of these tales 463 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:42.039 even come about? Where? 464 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:44.799 Where's the root of science fiction? Where's the root of 465 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.960 these ideas of time travel? And strangely enough, it largely 466 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.319 revolves around a fellow that I described last week in 467 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.880 Operation GCD Live in My In My Tales of Cocaine, 468 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:59.680 Bob Evans meets Marvel Comics is DC Marvel Comics, thelema 469 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:02.720 fan fiction that was all focused around a fellow by 470 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:05.559 the name of Forrest j Ackerman. He's actually known as 471 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:09.079 mister science Fiction, and he's the guy who. 472 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:09.799 Coined the term science fiction. 473 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.279 So I'm glad you pointed that out, because we're gonna 474 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:15.720 be getting into a little bit of that. Did anyone 475 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.759 else have any more any more opening comments or statements here? 476 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:23.039 Before we do a quick quick clip of the trailer 477 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.480 to the film, you know, just to get folks that 478 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:29.240 refreshed on the who doesn't know, back to the future. 479 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.519 But if folks the interwebs are out there, who don't 480 00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:35.640 I have a brief clip in which to refresh folks memories. 481 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:38.599 But if anyone else has any other comments before we 482 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.599 do that, please feel free. 483 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.400 We're good, all right? 484 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.200 Actually, you know what, I'm glad I sipped myself there 485 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.680 for a second, because once again, this is how this 486 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:51.799 whole conversation began. 487 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:57.000 I have a clip of that first. That's for messing 488 00:22:57.079 --> 00:22:57.279 up my. 489 00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:59.359 Home the hell. 490 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:01.839 Are you doing to my are hey? Beat it spook. 491 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:07.480 Just don't concern you who you call it spook? Take 492 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:07.920 a wood? 493 00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:12.400 Hey hey listen, guys, look, I don't want to mess 494 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:13.400 with no reforatics. 495 00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:18.279 Okay, I. 496 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:21.319 Do you ever hear that? Do you ever hear the 497 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:22.160 Peckerwoods before? 498 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:23.680 No? 499 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:24.480 I'm not now. 500 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:26.960 Yeah. Yeah, they're a group I met in prison as well. 501 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:28.000 They hung out with the Odinis. 502 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.119 They all have like themselves. 503 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:33.880 Yeah they have like what wood. Yeah, they have like 504 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:39.680 white pecker whatdy woodpecker tattoos and ship out of here. 505 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:42.839 Oh my god, I'd never heard of that. 506 00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:45.640 I just crack up because you know that is uh, 507 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:48.359 you know, the term spook is obviously you don't know 508 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.440 how long it goes back to with intelligence operations. 509 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:51.799 I presume that back that far. 510 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:54.759 But it's that's the term I know for intelligence operations, 511 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.920 not the you know, the the reference from Back to 512 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.240 the Future. But it cracks me up, and that seems 513 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:01.799 very kind of import and the whole narrative because you know, 514 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:05.559 Michael J. Fox's character Marty McFly gets locked in that trunk, 515 00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:08.079 and it is that trunk that's an epicode that being 516 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:10.680 locked in that Trunk's an epicenter of activity that you know, 517 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.160 I don't want to I don't want to confuse mess folks. 518 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:14.960 Brain holds up at the moment, trying to, you know, 519 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.559 explain time and how this you know that seems imperative 520 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.759 to this whole circular nature of time in this film, 521 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:23.039 because I'm sure we'll get into that at some point. 522 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:24.799 But I, you know, I think that is a very 523 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:26.799 important scene. It's not just comical to me in that regard. 524 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.039 I think it's an important scene in the whole the 525 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.799 whole business. But I got a quick clip here for 526 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:34.960 the uh, you know, just to describe the storyline from 527 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:36.599 the original the original. 528 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:42.640 Trailer Steven Spielberger's ass Back to the Future Robertson Macer's film, 529 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.599 Marty leads an ordinary life. You will looks fly ever 530 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.039 amount to anything in the history of Ill Valley. 531 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.039 You known change, and nineteen eighty five is not. 532 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.559 He is a year, but doctor Brown is about to. 533 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:57.240 Change all that. 534 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.720 Are you telling me you got the time machine, Victoria. 535 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:06.319 He's sending Marty thirteen years back in time. 536 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.119 So I figured that was a good encapsulation of what, 537 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.079 at least the baseline of the film is the folks 538 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:16.960 that they are not familiar with it, but it is 539 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:18.000 still us. 540 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:19.960 This is still one of my favorite films. I'm not Claudia. 541 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:22.119 I get excited just watching. 542 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:25.799 The trailer me too, And I've watched it twice within 543 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:29.200 the last twenty four hours preparing for this and love 544 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:31.720 every moment of it. But I don't know what it 545 00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:37.400 means by Steven Spielberg presents a Robert Mechas film, but 546 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:43.000 that means he was in some way tied into what 547 00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:44.440 the production of it. 548 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.920 Or y was produced by Amble and Entertainment, which was 549 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:51.640 owned by Spielberg, with a minority answers byes the Mechas. 550 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:57.519 Okay, okay, the Mecca's hides in every film he's in period. 551 00:25:57.559 --> 00:25:58.559 Exactly is the Meccas. 552 00:25:58.720 --> 00:25:59.160 Yeah, he was. 553 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:02.000 He was Spielberg's protege and Bob Gail was best friends. 554 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:04.680 Was a Mecchas because Bob Gail, much like some of 555 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:06.680 the actors in this film, Bob Glee, seems to have 556 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:09.880 distanced himself from Hollywood, away from Za mecchas an Spielberg, 557 00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:12.920 just like Crispin Glover, the actor who played George McFly, 558 00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:18.440 and the female actress that played m Martin McFly's love 559 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:21.319 interest to Jennifer, whose name I can't think of at 560 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:21.680 the moment. 561 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.519 They both left after the first one, and years later 562 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.400 we'll get into some of this in a little bit here. 563 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:28.119 Years later, it would be alleged by. 564 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:34.079 The Crazy Days and Nights Entertainment lawyer Fellow that it 565 00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:38.160 was all revolving around kids stuff and we're ambling Entertainment 566 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.599 and Spielberg were having a bunch of children audition for 567 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.440 the film when there wasn't any children parts. So and 568 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.000 Krispin Glover made a bit of it, an issue of 569 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.920 it on set, and et cetera, et cetera. But there's 570 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.559 that's a whole that's a whole, big narrative there. But yeah, 571 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:53.720 that's actually. 572 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.680 That was my first note that I have is that 573 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:01.559 Crispin Glover actually wrote a letter that you can go 574 00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.599 and read. Anybody can go and read it. He wrote 575 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:08.599 a letter to Steven Spielberg and I'm assuming it was 576 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.480 after Back to the Future about the kid's stuff and 577 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:13.200 the weirdness. 578 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:15.000 Well, yeah, you. 579 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.119 Got to look long and hard for that letter, because 580 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:18.240 I thought you could read it. It took me a 581 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:19.799 minut to find out to go to the web archive. 582 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:21.519 Yeah. 583 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.000 I mean it's nice website back in two thousand and five. 584 00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.160 It's not easily accessible, but it is out there. 585 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:29.680 And he did the show notes. 586 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:33.799 You have it in the show notes, I will. 587 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:35.759 I haven't put it there yet. I've been really lazy 588 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:36.920 about that today, but I haven't. 589 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:37.599 I haven't available. 590 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:39.000 I'm gonna put it in after the show. 591 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:41.160 Oh, I haven't available. 592 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.359 I've talked about that before, and so is Sean McCann 593 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:50.720 about how Crispin Glover wrote this letter to to Steven 594 00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.200 Spielberg about this kind of stuff. And I really like 595 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.200 Crispin Glover. I think he's hilarious. 596 00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.480 Sure that very go ahead. 597 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:01.920 Oh, I was just gonna say I watched another movie 598 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:03.920 recently with him in it, and it just made me 599 00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.599 love him even more. Like I feel like he's a 600 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:07.960 no nonsense kind of guy. 601 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:10.079 He seems that way, right. 602 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.480 He seems that way because he really diships himself from 603 00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:16.880 Hollywood in the whole Spielberg franchise. So to that note again, 604 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:18.400 and we'll go into some more of that here in 605 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.680 a minute. But the you know, Crispin Glover really uh 606 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.319 hate he was responsible for a landmark lawsuit for actors' 607 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.920 rights there in Hollywood as far as The Back of 608 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.720 the Future too went because he used his likeness against 609 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.160 against without any permission. 610 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.640 So this that's a whole nother matter as well, but again. 611 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.119 Involves these producers, right, involves this trio of folks, Bob Gail, 612 00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.440 you know, Roberts, Mechas, Steven Spielberg, and really you can 613 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:43.599 toss George Lucas into that, even though he's not involved 614 00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.880 in this film, he is kind of the third wheel 615 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.599 there with some Mechas and Spielberg. They're all kind of 616 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.079 a trio. So interesting stuf because then you're dealing with 617 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:55.119 Star Wars, right with with the Spielberg, Lucas and stuff, right, 618 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.720 and then you know that's, uh, that's kind of all 619 00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:00.559 interesting to me in the sci fi in these sci 620 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:05.839 fi respects. So the I guess we could start off there, 621 00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:07.480 right some of that sci fi stuff. 622 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:13.359 Well, let me just when you were saying that sci 623 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.000 fi stuff, because that's obviously very interesting to me from 624 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:20.400 a metafiction perspective, is that I never really thought of 625 00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.160 it before, and I don't know why. I guess I'm 626 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:24.440 not a true Star Wars enjoyer, which is tolly true. 627 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:28.039 I actually don't really like Star Wars, but you can 628 00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:31.000 actually look at Star Wars in a really interesting cabalistic 629 00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.480 way and the like dualities like that, how dualistic it is, 630 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:40.400 and how like it's very it's very like clipathic and 631 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.039 like Tree of Life at the same time. It's like 632 00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.319 showing you both, but it's showing you kind of like 633 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:46.359 the retard version. 634 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.200 Okay, can you explain it? 635 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:57.640 Really, It's like it's like very fastile. It's like, oh 636 00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.960 you just you get there through this, like it's kind 637 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.880 kind of syncretic, right, Like he the joke is is 638 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.160 that he was reading the e Chang as he wrote 639 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:09.680 that film, right, but they were obviously they were obviously 640 00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:11.599 reading other things. And give me a break, it's not 641 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.880 just the eaching. But you know, so the reality is 642 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.319 it has these mataghysical themes. Like absolutely, people will fight 643 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.079 me about it, but it really does. But it's not 644 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.279 very deep. It's not like truly deep. It's not like 645 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.359 actually studying like I think. 646 00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:31.680 You can journey that. Marty McFly goes on, No. 647 00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:33.759 I'm sorry, I'm talking about Star Wars and just how 648 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.680 that is interesting. You were making like the thing where 649 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.200 it's like a parallel. 650 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.000 What's kind of similar, right, because there's kind of a 651 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.039 hero story between the two characters, right, Skywalker and Marty McFly, 652 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:45.279 And Martin. 653 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.920 McFly is a more interesting hero because he's a little 654 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:56.119 I agree with American, right, he's just something much more 655 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.920 interesting about him, much more relatable. There's nothing really related 656 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.480 all about Luke Skywalker to anyone. It's like, that's what 657 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:04.160 I was trying to get out. I'm sorry I went 658 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:04.440 on the. 659 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:05.240 Town now you're good. 660 00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:06.240 It was. 661 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.799 It's that the Luke Skywalker is kind of the messianic figure, right. 662 00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:13.799 No one can ever live up to that because it's 663 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:17.839 too pristine from the beginning. So Marty McFly, he has 664 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.079 a girlfriend. He's probably had said probly, you know, like 665 00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:24.279 he's lived his life, and it's like that's much more 666 00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.839 it's just much more relatable, I think, right. 667 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.640 Right, girlfriend's not his sister. 668 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:36.119 So well, that's that's a good kind of analysis and 669 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.079 what we're going into here. Does anyone else have anything 670 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:39.680 to share a kind of that regard kind of just 671 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.119 your overview of what you saw in these things, just 672 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:44.640 not the particular necessarily, but you know, kind of a 673 00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:46.440 meta analysis of what you looked at. 674 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.279 I definitely see a mystical journey like a Heroes for 675 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:54.519 I'm seeing, you know, with the time travel, a lot of. 676 00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:56.599 NASA like stuff. 677 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.119 Their space stuff gonna pop in big time with the 678 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:02.440 Dad and the book. I don't know if you guys 679 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.000 saw when he comes back, but when he comes back 680 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:09.440 and everything changes the books about space and how he 681 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.400 met his wife, it's like space lovers or something. And 682 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:17.480 I'm seeing like divine, a lot of divine you know, intervention. 683 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:20.599 So yeah, I don't want to. 684 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.880 Go I got that's you're definitely reading my mind there, 685 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.759 because I got some massive stuff on deck force here 686 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:28.880 in the sci fi background of this film. 687 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.720 I put down a lot of like about the predictive 688 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:39.640 programming type stuff that they snuck in there, Yeah, for sure, 689 00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:42.079 and I have like a few notes on that, and 690 00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.000 then I have a few notes of. 691 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:47.200 Like how. 692 00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:55.160 How they chose specific times and even stuff in the 693 00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.319 background to me looked a little bit on purpose. So sure, 694 00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.319 but I did want to say they took a lot 695 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.279 of time to make sure that this movie was perfect 696 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:12.759 and everything was very much on purpose. And something a 697 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:16.799 lot of people don't know is that another actor besides 698 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:22.920 Michael J. Fox filmed half of this movie and was 699 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:26.160 on the way to finishing the movie before they said 700 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.119 you chuck dicks, we hate you, fuck off and they 701 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:30.960 recasted him with Michael J. 702 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:31.319 Fox. 703 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:33.759 Can you talking about Eric Stoltz? 704 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:41.359 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't know it. Yeah yeah, 705 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.960 another big eighties movie, some kind of wonderful. I don't 706 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:49.079 know if you guys watched that, but he's he's the 707 00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:53.000 main guy in some kind of wonderful And he was 708 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.440 supposed to be Martin McFly. 709 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:02.039 This one was masked, right, yes, mask wine of yes, yes, Rocky. 710 00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:07.079 Yeah, so he was supposed to be Marty McFly. He 711 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.760 got like halfway through making the movie before they told 712 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.000 him he sucked Dix and got rid of him and 713 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:14.760 recasted him with Michael J. 714 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:15.159 Fox. 715 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.719 But like, everything they did was very intentional, was very 716 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:19.440 on purpose. 717 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:22.400 You sure was the sucond Deck thing. He looks a 718 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.000 little along in the face to me. Maybe that's why 719 00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:24.719 they recast him. 720 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.480 But I only say that to say every move that 721 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.639 they made was very purposeful, and they had to get 722 00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:36.159 it right, they had to make it perfect. So I 723 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.719 think that's also really interesting. 724 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:41.480 Well, I'd like to put a pin in that note 725 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:43.280 there real quick, Julia and have you what are you 726 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.119 what are your thoughts on this? You're talking about predictive 727 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.360 programming they did. Now it's technically it's number two. You 728 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.840 see this really manifested in in the film series the trilogy. 729 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.360 But BEF was written on Donald Trump future Biff. 730 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.039 Oh right, yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of that 731 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:03.039 comes in with the second movie because that going back 732 00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.840 to the past is But they still ended up putting 733 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.079 a lot of stuff in the first one. But you 734 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.960 know there was a lot in Back to the Future 735 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:15.000 too that just screams like oh fuck yeah. 736 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.159 And same with number three. But that begs the question 737 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:19.280 of what is time? When did all these things happen? 738 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.320 Because you know the things, Did these things always happen? 739 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.360 Did Marty's parents only meet because he went back in time? 740 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:25.920 You know what I mean? 741 00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.199 Shame meet in a sequel the Chicken thing, it's the 742 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:31.320 chicken or the thing. 743 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.679 Bill Clinton or the blue dress exactly. 744 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.039 The actually that's in that movie if you pay attention 745 00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:37.960 to it. Actually he's telling you that this has already 746 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.760 happened al ready, I have stuff in there. He's actually 747 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.360 telling you it's already changed. 748 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:47.480 Like yeah, I like where you're at neck on. 749 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.800 That is Marty only friends with Doc Brown because he 750 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.079 went back in the past and Doc Brown knew who 751 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.320 he was. Or how the fuck did Marty become friends 752 00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:03.840 with a disgraced nuclear physicist while he's in high schools Oh, oh. 753 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.440 I'm glad you brought that. I'm glad you brought that up. 754 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.320 Am I cutting out here? Can you all hear me? 755 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:08.480 No? 756 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:09.440 I can hear you. 757 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.920 You're good, I got some bad storms that keeps cutting out. No, 758 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.320 that's a great point, Julia, because that that physics that 759 00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.199 you know, renowned kind of disgraced physicists and the high 760 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.079 school student being friends. I think that's a nod to 761 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.239 Warner von Braun and Jack Parsons, who had a pen 762 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.280 pal and phone call relationship in the nineteen twenties as 763 00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:29.880 Parsons was a teenager. 764 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.880 So I should have said this before, but I wrote 765 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.559 down Personian as my primary talking point for the entire 766 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:42.880 face because exactly I didn't know that factor it. So 767 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:47.719 thank you JJ. Obviously rely, yes, sir, But it makes 768 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.119 perfect sense, right because that's exactly what it is. And 769 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.280 you can even say in like a hero's journey like well, 770 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.760 he was saying he is like the Gandalf figure. He is, 771 00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.840 you know, the carew the teacher one to take him 772 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.719 under the wing. And I also think it's really interesting 773 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.000 about the time paradox because it's something like we discussed 774 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.199 on the Carl What episodes, like what kind of universe 775 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.639 do you believe in, Like if there's a closed universe 776 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.679 or a fixed universe. So I'm going off when when 777 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.119 Nick sent me in notewise, but in my this is 778 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.480 all I also agree with it is. I actually think 779 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.000 it's more of an infinity universe kind of world, where 780 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.760 like the connections are kind of infinitely possible, so it 781 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.199 doesn't really it's sort of like when we see them together, 782 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.239 it doesn't really matter. It's just like the universe's causal 783 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.800 that way, like everything that they've done up to this 784 00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:43.880 point in time, they only exist. 785 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.639 Now, I totally agree with you. 786 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.920 I think so does doctor mc brown Gray Scott. 787 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:55.159 Oh, sorry, go ahead, the uh so. 788 00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:57.320 Now, I like I like the ideas that Nick you 789 00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:58.840 and Nick are both point out here with these times, 790 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.440 these times time loops, the what is time and when? 791 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.519 When when do these things happen? And what is really 792 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.760 cause and effect there? But you know before we get. 793 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.000 Yeah, is it real? Because the dream world? 794 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.480 Okay, So when he enters in from the past and 795 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.840 he goes to town, the song that's playing is mister Sandman. 796 00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:22.320 And so heard I've heard that sound very familiar. That's 797 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:23.920 the first time ever heard this song was this film? 798 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.360 Right? And then the mom walks up at the same time, 799 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.960 and she's like, oh my gosh, she's such a dream. 800 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:33.280 And he's meanwhile saying, this is a nightmare. This is 801 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.320 a nightmare, and this is all happening at the same time. 802 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.199 So I'm like, is this even reality? 803 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.559 You're employing a kind of like a kind of a 804 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:44.880 meta analysis of a Wizard of Oz effect to the 805 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:45.280 whole matter. 806 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.239 Very very that part, yeah, just that part right there 807 00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.440 definitely makes you go, Okay, is this real? 808 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.159 Is it a dream? Did he have a dream? 809 00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:54.559 I don't know? 810 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.679 You know, sure, Nick, what was what was kind of 811 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.719 your meta analysis? Besides some of the time things were 812 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.360 pointing out there? Do you have any other comments on that? 813 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:08.119 Well, I can tell you, like, I know you have 814 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:09.239 a deep analysis of these things. 815 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.039 I was to say, do you have any like when 816 00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:12.760 you when you when you were approaching that, was there 817 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.000 something like overall besides, maybe it was the Masonic stuff, 818 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:17.559 Like maybe was the time stuff. 819 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:20.159 What was what was jumping out to you specifically. 820 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:24.039 The hero's journey, uh, especially with like you know time 821 00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:28.000 and the electricity, uh you know on the clock all 822 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:29.239 that stuff, and uh. 823 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.800 Just big into the lightning aspects. I figured that was 824 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.599 gonna hit him with you in some regard for. 825 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.400 Sure, for sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely thought it 826 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.480 was more of like possibly like you know, crossing the 827 00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.280 abyss or showing the hero's journey to having that experience. 828 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.880 And I did eventually at one point started catching a 829 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.440 little tons of my opinion, tons and tons of Masonic stuff. 830 00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:51.880 So that's kind of where I'm going there. You get 831 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.199 into my stuff. But I mean there's a lot of 832 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:56.280 a lot. I mean I even ran Jamatia and stuff. 833 00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.960 I mean, you still have decent stuff. 834 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.719 Now you took it in depth study. I'm looking forward 835 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:03.840 to get in some of those notes. I appreciate everyone's 836 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:05.760 kind of mad at analysis there. And as I was 837 00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.880 looking at it, I saw a little bit of kind 838 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.800 of everything. What y'all are saying is, you know a 839 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:11.559 lot of my focus. I think when I was watching 840 00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:15.920 it again yesterday, was looking back seeing all this, you know, 841 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:18.400 I guess I was looking at through more of a 842 00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.440 parapolitical lens. You know, I could see a lot of 843 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.320 the politics so that they were written into the film, 844 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.360 like hardcore propaganda, like against the Libyans. That was at 845 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:30.840 a peak time when you know, the the Libyan disaster 846 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:34.360 in America was, you know, they were they were hyping 847 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:35.840 that up, and I got I got some stuff on 848 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.719 that here later for the parapolitics section of our discussion 849 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:42.519 this evening. But besides that, you know, this predictive programming aspect, 850 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.239 I suppose with and to a certain degree just the 851 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.199 nature of time, these things wrap up on this one 852 00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.000 subject of this Donald Trump matter, and is that being 853 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.119 the Biff Tannic character, right, Because you know it's it's 854 00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.480 not just that he's the Biff Tanning character, right. He 855 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.800 he ends up buying the prop from John DeLorean, the 856 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.599 guy who makes the Delareuan vehicle that's used in the film. 857 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:09.320 Trump buys that Bedminster, New Jersey property, and that is 858 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.440 where he primarily resides from the months of I believe 859 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.559 May through through August. That's his primary residence there in Bedminster, 860 00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:21.119 New Jersey. So that's the other that Oh yeah, how weird? 861 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:21.639 Is that right? 862 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.480 There was? Actually I wish I would have saved it now, 863 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:26.960 but there was a lot of Trump and Elon stuff 864 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:31.039 popping up in Jamatria. But it's just like, it wasn't 865 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:33.320 my opinion for what I was looking for. It wasn't 866 00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.440 going along with that because then I started one thing 867 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.400 I did forgether, Sorry, I mating it in and out 868 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:41.039 something I found running Jamatria. Tons of Russian connections, stuff 869 00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.159 with Russia, and even with the pin he's wearing on 870 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.239 his jacket goes back to a Russian thing. So I 871 00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:49.039 might actually be on purpose. 872 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:52.159 I'm sure it is. 873 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:53.320 I think that a lot of these things in this 874 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:55.239 film are very well plot in and to that point 875 00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:57.920 as well, as Julia was saying, so like, that's one 876 00:41:57.960 --> 00:41:58.840 thing I appreciate about that. 877 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.199 I don't like a lot of sci fi film. 878 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:01.800 I mean, I do like Star Wars, but I don't 879 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:03.159 I don't do Star Trek and a lot of other 880 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.119 sci fi stuff. And it's largely because of the special effects. 881 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:08.079 You're into all the space stuff. 882 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.639 I love it all. Did you see that hat tip? 883 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.599 Speaking of space, did you see the hat tip to Kubrick? 884 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:17.599 No? 885 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:18.320 I didn't you. 886 00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.480 Yeah, So there's there's a little hat tip to Cubrick 887 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.960 in there. When they have the original. 888 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.440 The amplifier at the very beginning of the movie, he 889 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.400 goes to plug in and there's a little tiny tag 890 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:37.320 on it and it says c RM one fourteen on 891 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:41.320 the amplifier, which is a total nod from one of 892 00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:45.599 his destroyed messages decoded in the nineteen sixty four Doctor 893 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:48.599 Strane Love and Jupiter Explorer and Space Odyssey. 894 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:50.480 So I found that. 895 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:52.519 On my own. 896 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.360 I didn't. Yeah, I just looked that. 897 00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:00.719 Up to that note of all the science fiction of 898 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.320 this film, and like that that. I think everything is 899 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:05.840 well plotted out in this film. Like that is you 900 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.360 know that to that note, they really focus on those things. 901 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.239 There's not a lot of special effects scenes. Most of 902 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:12.239 the special effect scenes you've seen in this film, or 903 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.199 the lightning scenes, they really dedicated a lot of times 904 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.639 that lightning very pop out. 905 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:19.880 They want to make a pop for you, right, more 906 00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.039 like when when the DeLorean takes off and there's the 907 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.960 two little streaks of fire and stuff like that. That's 908 00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.719 about it. But I was gonna say everything. 909 00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:31.199 Else is very well plotted out, and I think there's 910 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:33.760 really they really only shot like about three or four 911 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:36.159 like less than four dozen. I think it was about 912 00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.840 thirty five different scenes. This film is very you know, 913 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.079 very it's not very complex shot film, but it's a 914 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.880 great storyline. It's very It really grasps your attention throughout 915 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.960 the whole film. Even when I watched it yesterday, I 916 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:49.760 was still very much involved in watching the film and 917 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.320 not like you know, doing other things while you know 918 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.199 what I mean, And I don't know. I think that 919 00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:57.679 speaks again to this the esoteric secrets they're embedded in 920 00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.559 the film. Is it really grabs your subconscious But and 921 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.119 and on that nature of subconscious and time like when 922 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.039 when I when when there's a really surface way to 923 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.280 look at the Donald Trump situation, But again I look 924 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:10.400 at it through like what is time? 925 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.199 And like did the writers of this film did they? Did? 926 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:13.559 You know? 927 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.840 There's a concept of that I like to consider of 928 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.199 a guy by the name J. W. Dunn about the 929 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:21.880 dream state. As you know, we're talking about the dream 930 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.000 state as being better of this film in the nature 931 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.159 of time and the dream state is your subconscious can 932 00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:29.079 kind of remember the future in a sense, whereas it 933 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.800 doesn't operate in a linear timeline like we do in 934 00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.039 in uh in our in our waken state, and you know, 935 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.920 then that way you can almost remember the future. This 936 00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:40.920 was explained some deje vu elements, but also would explain 937 00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:43.920 incidents of recognition. 938 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:44.880 And JW. 939 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.159 Dunn wrote a pamphlet on this back in the nineteen 940 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.239 twenties called an Experiment in Time, and it was one 941 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:50.800 of the most. 942 00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:55.400 Fascinating things I've ever read. So really really big question. 943 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.679 Are they just coming up with this idea from something 944 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.440 that they possibly got into a dream state, you know, 945 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.079 that's where the idea came from. And it's really they're 946 00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.000 just saying something in the future in their dream state, 947 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.320 and they're just in their current time. They're just you know, 948 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.480 transcribing a matter where it looks very similar rights. You know, 949 00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.280 they do predict a lot of things relative to Donald Trump. Right, 950 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.000 go ahead, Jen No. 951 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:18.960 I just wanted to say that I totally agree with 952 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:23.400 that writer that you're citing, JJ, because it's very interesting 953 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:26.280 because it actually correlates really well the Buddhism. Time is 954 00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.440 of the mind, Time is of the nine expressed in nine. 955 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:35.119 So exactly what you're saying, it's like the the you 956 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:39.400 are the chronopoetic master. You are the time king of 957 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.400 your own timeline kind of thing. So there's something really 958 00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.480 interesting about that. And then also you were saying, like 959 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.079 the dreaming state, Well what if I told you, like 960 00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:51.679 the the dreaming mind is the color of turquoise, but 961 00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.280 the waking mind is the color of lapis. So when 962 00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.800 you were saying, like, what is the color of lightning, well, 963 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.239 lightning is actually insurerched for both of those things, because 964 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:04.239 it's also clear, very. 965 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:05.199 Scientist, I know. 966 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.880 And to your point, his address when he makes it 967 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.760 back home to Hill Valley, which is an oxymoron by 968 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.840 the you can't Heill Valley, Okay, whatever, but his address 969 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:21.400 is nine three zero three, and so three times three 970 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:23.840 is nine or we have thirty three. 971 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:27.480 Right there too. So I found that really interesting. 972 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:29.880 That was on the house, So nine three zero three, 973 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:33.639 And that's exactly what you're saying, jin it's it's all nine, 974 00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.880 it's the nine, and then three zero three three times 975 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.280 three is nine or thirty three? Would you say the 976 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:41.599 nine three zero three is well would you say that 977 00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:44.440 was on his house, that's his address when he's coming 978 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.159 up m hm. And so that was really interesting. And 979 00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.079 if we move past him coming home to his house. 980 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.159 I have something to say about that, but I don't 981 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:55.719 know if we're there yet, So yeah, we can. 982 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.079 Jump into that here shortly when we go through the 983 00:46:57.119 --> 00:46:59.679 film and the characters here in a minute. But no, 984 00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.519 I well, I got to say, I just got lost 985 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:03.960 like three different things at the same time. 986 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:09.320 Again the uh, the uh? Where was it? I forget 987 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.880 where I was at? Now I apologize there, what's let's uh, 988 00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:14.800 I guess let's jump on. 989 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:17.320 Have any any other comments on time or some of 990 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.480 these other concepts before we jump into the back. 991 00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:26.119 I had one thing that I noticed to do with 992 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.519 the time thing that I wanted to say. 993 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.480 Or dream stuff, because I think that's very interesting too 994 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:32.119 that brought up I didn't. 995 00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:34.320 I didn't get I didn't put anything down about the 996 00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.400 dream stuff because I was so fixated on this other aspect. 997 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.880 But at the very beginning of the movie, when it's 998 00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:44.280 showing all the clocks and there's like a million clocks 999 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.559 in Doc Brown's house, even down to like one of 1000 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.719 the clocks is like a guy hanging off of a 1001 00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:55.800 clock tower. Like everything in every little scene, every you know, 1002 00:47:56.039 --> 00:48:00.320 it's it's like it's so on purpose to predict what's 1003 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:04.840 gonna come later in the film, but also what's to 1004 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:08.400 come later in like reality too, And I'm I'm sure 1005 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:09.760 you know where I'm going. 1006 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:10.119 With that, but. 1007 00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:12.320 Any difference. 1008 00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.440 And then I did do the name Marty and I 1009 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:21.360 did the name emmittt to see what they mean. And 1010 00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:28.800 so Marty means warlike or of Mars, and it refers 1011 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:33.079 to the Roman god of war Mars. And then Emmitt, 1012 00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:40.760 doctor Emmitt Brown, his name means universal or truth. So 1013 00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:44.239 both I think both of those names are very interesting 1014 00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:45.960 for the two main characters there. 1015 00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:49.360 Oh yeah, well, and Jennifer means so if we're gonna 1016 00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.320 do characters, I do have something a couple of things, 1017 00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:52.719 but I can bring it back in later. 1018 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:56.039 For the time, you mentioned Hill Valley as a oxymoron. 1019 00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:58.280 That's where I got stuck there a moment ago. That 1020 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.800 is a good point, like there's some meaning to that. 1021 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.840 Why are they using such an obscure name? 1022 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:06.639 Then right, so uh, I'll go back, I'll go backward 1023 00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:07.159 to sergeant. 1024 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.360 I'll just say really quickly that I think that when 1025 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:14.599 when they're talking about this time part, when they're not 1026 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.320 in reality the time is running on the clock, but 1027 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.280 when they're in reality, the time is fixed because the 1028 00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.719 clock is broken. So we have to look at this 1029 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:29.880 like Doc Brown is almost like Zeus, you know, and 1030 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.079 they've got you know, Posidon there and all that. 1031 00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.199 But I'll do that when we get into characters. 1032 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.639 But what I'm saying is is also you've got like 1033 00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:44.039 the flux capacitor, which is chaos, right, it's the why yes, 1034 00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:49.079 And so when they're using it and they're in wherever 1035 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:53.239 they've traveled to, like whether it's past your future, whatever it's, 1036 00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.559 it's again chaotic because it's. 1037 00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:57.800 Not in sync with reality. That's all I was going 1038 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:02.199 to say on the timing part. But but I'm weird. No, 1039 00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:07.159 that was great. That was really great, legit, I'm sorry, Jenny. 1040 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:07.960 No. 1041 00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:11.159 The Marty. The Marty thing was really interesting because then 1042 00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:14.360 you'd have to say he's a governatic hero, right, like 1043 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.719 he's coming from Mars, he's coming from Govera, but he 1044 00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:20.400 tries to travel on the lightning path. So that's something 1045 00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:24.079 that Mighty said that was really interesting about Hill Valley, 1046 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:25.599 And I think I know why you got suck on 1047 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:26.800 it because it is a paradox. 1048 00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:27.119 JJ. 1049 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.880 It doesn't make I never really considered it, but it 1050 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:31.320 makes no sense until you just said I was to 1051 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:31.920 wait a second. 1052 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.079 But it's a cola state paradox that's resolved in the 1053 00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:36.840 center the hidden pillar. 1054 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.280 It's all about a time paradox, right, They're all they're saying, Oh, 1055 00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.039 that's a paradox, and this is a paradox, and yeah. 1056 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:48.440 Well he and he lives in Lions Estate and you 1057 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.519 see this Lion's estate with the two pillars, but you 1058 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:56.599 go in between the Lions Gate and then what does that? 1059 00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:00.159 Do you know what we know about Lions eight? 1060 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:00.480 Right? 1061 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.039 With and with eighty eight? 1062 00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.199 Did that eighty eight miles per hour charge the Lions Gate? 1063 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:08.960 And with double infinity where it's not even real? You 1064 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:09.679 know what I'm saying, I. 1065 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:13.880 Have something on the Lions if I if we're getting 1066 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:16.639 into that, I have something about the Lions? Can I 1067 00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:17.480 should I save it? 1068 00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:20.400 Can we table that for a moment we start getting 1069 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.039 into the film. We'll discuss the settings a little bit 1070 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.559 like that, because I want to do a quick background 1071 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.800 signed to these names. Y'all were just saying, do a 1072 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.480 quick background the sci fi and the predictive programming aspect 1073 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:35.679 of that, real quick with Donald Trump that is, and 1074 00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.000 then we'll get into the entire film here after that. 1075 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.480 If you don't be all to mind bearing with me 1076 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:41.639 here for a moment, because we already brought some of 1077 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:43.159 these names. I want to kind of jump into this 1078 00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.360 point real quick, and it goes right to the sci 1079 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:47.880 fi stuff. So we were talking about how the meaning 1080 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:49.800 of these names and some of the background there well, 1081 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:51.760 jumping ahead to back to the future. 1082 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.199 Three we learned. We learned this about Doc Brown. 1083 00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:55.880 Bro. 1084 00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:58.760 Maybe it was a mistake. Maybe it wasn't yours. 1085 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:03.079 It could have been another Emmig Brown relatives back then. 1086 00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.039 The Bros didn't come to the Hill Valley until nineteen 1087 00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:06.880 o eight, and then they were the von Brons. 1088 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:09.079 I just want to change our name. During the First 1089 00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:09.599 World War. 1090 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.440 Von Braun, like Werner v how can you say, how 1091 00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:21.679 can you say the first and the third one aren't 1092 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:23.880 the best when they put ship like that in the 1093 00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:24.440 third one. 1094 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:27.119 Oh, I. 1095 00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:30.199 Won't get me wrong. I enjoy these things. 1096 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:33.159 There's there's nuggets of information all around there and they 1097 00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.000 even have some Thelamites in the third one, right with 1098 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:36.599 Flea he's a member of the Red How do you 1099 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:37.119 look right? 1100 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:41.360 I wouldn't totally make sense because like you can consider, 1101 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.400 like I call it nasau space. Cabala is how they 1102 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.559 referred to it before, but the way they put it 1103 00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:50.960 because for the way they teach the planets is actually Cabala. 1104 00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.079 You could understand it like that, So the first introduction 1105 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:59.360 to what people think of, but it's actually the inverse 1106 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:02.880 because it's the physical densities, so it's actually not Cabala. 1107 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.519 But you could say that it's the first way, the 1108 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:08.960 first layer that people understand. So it would make sense 1109 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.079 if they're doing all these von Braun references because obviously 1110 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.280 that's what he was also talking about by the. 1111 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:18.320 Way he dies in right, it just ties into the 1112 00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.519 whole sci fi background, and these rockets and nasts are 1113 00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:26.079 right with with with a reference like that, right, Oh, 1114 00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:27.639 I said, Von Bron. 1115 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.679 Just was definitely in the good with the Marmons. 1116 00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.079 He made a theological film with them that nobody else 1117 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:39.039 was allowed in, only Von Braun. Yeah, so it was weird. 1118 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.519 I think that's very interesting, you know. And what we 1119 00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.559 know about Parsons and his mother, well we'll save that 1120 00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:47.480 for later, but. 1121 00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:51.559 Yeah, just all Parsons and about his Parsons, right, because 1122 00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:55.719 he's just such an interesting character with his whole background, right, absolutely, 1123 00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:59.920 So that guy there before re Ackerman meet four. 1124 00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.719 He's the fellow that I used as a center point 1125 00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.760 in this narrative of Cocaine Bob meets Marvel Comics my 1126 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.199 operation GCD Live last week. Fory Ackerman is the guy 1127 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.559 mister science fiction. He's the guy who coins the term 1128 00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:18.000 sci fi right. He's a literary agent for all these folks. 1129 00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:20.039 He knew Parsons, he knew Hubbard, he was an oto 1130 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.559 guy at Parsons Lodge. Apparently he was an early scientologist. 1131 00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:26.519 He knew all the Marvel stuff. He knew Cocaine Bob 1132 00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.480 of course, well with all these characters. And that's Sane 1133 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.119 Lee of Marvel Comics, who was a good friend of 1134 00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:35.599 fory Ackerman as well. So fory Ackerman for a quick 1135 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.320 rehash on that. He's a legendary figure in Hollywood. I 1136 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:42.360 decided to muppetize him like anyone else these days, because 1137 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:43.199 he actually is a muppet. 1138 00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:43.360 Two. 1139 00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.519 Just this guy in general, he's he's a legendary dude. 1140 00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:49.159 Like I said, sci fi stuff, literary agent for every 1141 00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:53.119 sci fi writer you can think of, Isaac Asimov, Bradbury, Hubbard, 1142 00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:56.440 you know all these guys, Arthur C. Clark, he ran 1143 00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:58.679 their little sci fi club in Los Angeles. He was 1144 00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:02.239 there the head of the again big time of cultists 1145 00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:05.800 ran the thing called Monsters and Magazines. A monstras a 1146 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:10.559 famous monsters magazine, and the actual picture of them is 1147 00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:13.599 not nearly as funny as that. But if you look 1148 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.719 at kind of the onset of these stories of where 1149 00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:18.800 these film like Back to the Future comes from, it 1150 00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:23.599 goes back to Fory. So the idea this is Wikipedia, 1151 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:26.559 the source of all information on the interwebs. It's a 1152 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:28.079 good jumping off point in times. I do like to 1153 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.920 see what the normative view on subjects are too. But 1154 00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:34.360 here's a good quote here regarding time travel and fiction 1155 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:39.320 article here, and like I said, it goes to fory Ackerman. 1156 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.880 So Fory Akerman noted in his nineteen seventy three anthology 1157 00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.039 of the Best Fiction of the Year that the theme 1158 00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:49.199 of getting hold of tomorrow's newspaper is a recurrent one, 1159 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.760 you know, in regards to science fiction and these matters 1160 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.039 of time travel. Right, so this is the first, to 1161 00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.400 my understanding, this is the first time travel story in fiction. 1162 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:00.239 HG. 1163 00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.880 Will's time Machine not really the same thing we're talking 1164 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.440 about here, but this is the early onset of kind 1165 00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:07.480 of the subject, right, is that you all agree on that? 1166 00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.199 Is there an earlier piece that I'll remember. 1167 00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:16.239 Not that I can think of, Yeah, because that's eighteen 1168 00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.760 ninety five, and shortly thereafter we see things it's not 1169 00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:21.800 really time travel, but we see this story by Mark 1170 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:25.360 Twain at Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, And I 1171 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.360 saw a comment earlier on in the chat before I 1172 00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:29.840 lost all side of what was going on there regarding 1173 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:32.039 time slips. This is a time slip, right. We kind 1174 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.000 of talked about time slips recently on the Cult Rejects 1175 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:35.559 as well, right. 1176 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:41.039 Nick, Yes, sir, Yeah that was with Ride, Right, Yeah, 1177 00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:42.000 that was It's. 1178 00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.559 Kind of like it's time travel and you don't have 1179 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.760 a DeLorean, right, But I mean it's it's the same concept. 1180 00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:48.920 Though, right, Yeah, pretty much. 1181 00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:53.159 Well, are you'll familiar with this story? 1182 00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:55.480 I'm not. 1183 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.559 I'm not, no, I am, but but I think there 1184 00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.159 is some interesting that you're picking up on. JJ is 1185 00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:04.599 that there is a difference in a way. But the 1186 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.679 because the Dolorean is the heck a lot. So it's 1187 00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:09.480 like the vehicle, like I talked a lot about this 1188 00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:12.719 on our episode, it's like the you know, the Mormons 1189 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.559 have this idea. They're more into the palace architecture, the 1190 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:18.840 temple architecture. They're into bringing things back down into the 1191 00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:21.480 diamonds and nuts. That's what they're all about, right, Like 1192 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:25.360 Mormon money magic. Well that's Mormon money magic, yes, sir. 1193 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:29.679 But the this actually, and I even texted Nick this 1194 00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.480 as I said, yeah, absolutely, I agree with you. This 1195 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:37.719 is like a hodemaxing, like double dragon because in Chinese, interestingly, 1196 00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.599 eight is a dragon number, so it's like eighty eight 1197 00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:41.559 double dragons. 1198 00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:46.519 Let's fucking like, that's like the yep maybe yep. 1199 00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.079 I think that has a do even parts of your 1200 00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:50.920 brain too. I'm not gonna take it that far. 1201 00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:55.480 Well, did you think it was weird at the at 1202 00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.000 the mall parking lot before they're taking off that that 1203 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.280 you see the visual of j C so like Jesus 1204 00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:05.760 Christ and then Penny like copper, and that was that stood. 1205 00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:07.840 Out to me so much, And I mean I was like, 1206 00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:08.960 is this charging? 1207 00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:09.719 Yeah? 1208 00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:13.239 Is this like charging? This situation? And then the guns 1209 00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.119 come with iron their shoes. 1210 00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.000 Oh, I'm glad you said that. I got that clip 1211 00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:17.480 on deck here. 1212 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:18.000 Yeah. 1213 00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:21.159 Yeah, director predictive programming, because that was the Libyans, Right, 1214 00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:23.239 that was the Libyans assaulting. 1215 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:23.559 Them in the parking lot. 1216 00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:27.159 And that was the great time where will marked Dolphie 1217 00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:29.760 was was the bin laden of that era, Right, that 1218 00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:31.159 was the time. 1219 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:37.000 Doc is wearing the biohazard sign behind on his jumper. 1220 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.000 And that can also be the skull and crossbones, So 1221 00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:40.559 is he? 1222 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.480 Oh that's you know, I mean, do they want to 1223 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.079 scare everybody about the Libyans and nuclear war at the time? Right, 1224 00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.119 this was the era of the mid eighties, right, it 1225 00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:52.119 was a nuclear scare terrorism by the Olypyans. 1226 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.079 And while we're on that note, I got a clip 1227 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:54.599 here for us. 1228 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.599 Oh my god, they found me. 1229 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:07.039 I don't know how they found me. Look Hardvarted whoo whoo? 1230 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:08.559 Who do you think. 1231 00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.800 It was Oleviyan's they did it? And now I know 1232 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:20.159 I wasn't really old enough to really understand what's going on. 1233 00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.480 I do remember kind of the whole Avian scare there 1234 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.280 around that time, right in the media. 1235 00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:27.159 On it again. 1236 00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.039 It was a very bit load uh situation, But I 1237 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:32.079 don't want to I got a different clip to kind 1238 00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:34.039 of explain that to folks real quick to emphasize that 1239 00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:39.079 point from comedian Jim Brewer, all right. 1240 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.519 And I took his I took his newspaper. It was 1241 00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:42.960 a newspaper on his little desk. 1242 00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:45.840 I'm we go right, he took his newspaper and show 1243 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:50.760 him now a little part of history. At that time, 1244 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.079 America was in a serious situation with Libya. 1245 00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:58.400 Huge before Bin Ladin. 1246 00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:05.079 There is move Ko Duffy, and he was huge in 1247 01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:12.199 news because he shot six missiles at a US plane 1248 01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:21.440 he missed and then the next day we bombed his tent. 1249 01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:25.320 That's what happened, and it was huge news. 1250 01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:25.960 It was right on. 1251 01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.239 If you when you went home, you only had four 1252 01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.719 channels watching TV, was before ven remotes. You're just your father, 1253 01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:34.440 go hey, turney and channel four and. 1254 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:36.320 You have to get up dam. 1255 01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:42.920 And so everything was next on the news. 1256 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:48.000 Mumah Kadaffi's America, Muma Kadaffi, Mumah Kadaffi shoot six missiles, 1257 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:49.119 Muma Kodoffy. 1258 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:51.280 I think we get the port there. 1259 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.440 So that's what the whole Libya thing was about. 1260 01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:58.199 Yeah, So that was the height of that activity when 1261 01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.360 he's talked about So Jim Burger is telling the story 1262 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:01.960 there on one of those Comedy Central. 1263 01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:02.960 This is not happening, I think. 1264 01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:05.440 And he actually is talking about working at that Valley 1265 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.519 Stree mall, Nicknase, I'm talking about and at Long Island, 1266 01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:10.159 and he was working at the Seers. He was playing 1267 01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:12.280 a prank on a fellow coworker of this old dude 1268 01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:14.400 who was giving him ship as a teenager, and he 1269 01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:16.840 called the dude, you know, across to a different department, 1270 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.599 was just telling him that it was he was claiming 1271 01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:20.400 to be Mo Marke Godolphie on the phone and he's 1272 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.840 going to bomb the mall there or drop six missiles 1273 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.159 on the mall, because that's what all the media kept saying, 1274 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:26.559 six missiles, six missiles. 1275 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:30.159 So they they ended up evacuating the whole mall and 1276 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:30.880 called the FBI. 1277 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:33.679 And it's a funny story, but yeah, it's that was 1278 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:40.280 Ghidelphia era of the eighties. I never knew that that's 1279 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.519 the some yeah, some wild stuff, right, and that that 1280 01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:47.119 story cracks me up there. That's unfortunately it circumstances finding 1281 01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:49.280 in playing a prank and suddenly the FBI gets called, 1282 01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:50.920 you know, because some idiot can't realize that it was 1283 01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:55.719 a prank. He actually thinks, momar cud Off, he's calling 1284 01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.840 the paint department at Sears and telling him he's. 1285 01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:00.000 Ridiculous. 1286 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:06.639 So yeah, back to this, these matters of the backstory 1287 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:08.880 of kind of how how Back to the Future came 1288 01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:11.199 to be through these matters of science fiction and whatnot. 1289 01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.199 So you see the reference Jules Verne a lot in 1290 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:17.000 the film. In fact, I believe he later names his 1291 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.760 kids Jewels and vern right, and number three Doc Brown. 1292 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:27.599 That is, yes, I know he named this dog Einstein 1293 01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:30.039 and you want to talk about Mason's. 1294 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:33.800 And the other one was Copernicus, right, The other dog 1295 01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:37.719 was Copernicus, right, yes, yes, So it's a lot of 1296 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.960 space stuff, science stuff, and then Jules and vern is 1297 01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.760 reference to Jules Verna. Obviously he didn't do any time 1298 01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.679 travel stuff, you know, around the world eighty days, twenty 1299 01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:47.840 thousand leagues under the sea. 1300 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.039 He did journey to the center of the Earth, which 1301 01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.079 I think is like a real fucking thing. 1302 01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:55.519 That's the that's the one, that's the big one. I 1303 01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:56.360 was missing this one. 1304 01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:58.840 He's not as known for, but thank you Julia for 1305 01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:00.920 that when I was stuck there on the other title, 1306 01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:02.639 From the Earth to the Moon. 1307 01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:04.480 So this is a this is an idea of this 1308 01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:05.159 is one of the early. 1309 01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:07.440 I think this is the earliest idea of rockets, right, 1310 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.039 and even talking about a moon landing and a projectile 1311 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.320 that looks a lot like what Warner von Braun would 1312 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:18.119 develop as a rocket, this obelisk looking object right, see 1313 01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.679 what I'm saying here on the cover right and is 1314 01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.719 read in eighteen sixty five, and it's talking about he 1315 01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:26.519 wrote a sequel to it around the Moon, but it's 1316 01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:28.760 talking about landing with a projectile with a goal of 1317 01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.039 landing on the Moon. So you know, I think that's 1318 01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:34.719 interesting because again we go back to that von Braun reference. 1319 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:38.840 Right now, we got the earliest version. So everything I 1320 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:41.079 covered that in the last show I did last week 1321 01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:44.159 on this deleamite science or fan fiction ideas of Marvel 1322 01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.719 and DC comics, because all of these ideas of science 1323 01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.639 and space that we know from revolving around rocketry and 1324 01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:54.840 space travel revolves around that they were written in fiction 1325 01:03:55.039 --> 01:04:00.119 first by writers whose literary agent was for Reactorman and 1326 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:02.400 who fory Ackerman was the head of that sci fi 1327 01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:04.599 writers club in which all of these writers were also 1328 01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:07.159 a part of so and they also were all apparently 1329 01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:10.920 involved by forty Ackerman's own admission, they were all involved 1330 01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.159 in first the OTO and then later scientology. And four 1331 01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:16.440 he stuck around in scientology for a while. He didn't 1332 01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:20.960 leave until the late early fifties, so he was seemed 1333 01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:23.519 pretty dedicated in these matters. But you know, we learn 1334 01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:25.920 about these ideas of space first through these through these 1335 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.480 matters of science fiction, and then later supposedly you know, 1336 01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:33.960 supposedly science right, and then it really impacts a lot 1337 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:35.480 of stuff. I don't want to go too far here, 1338 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:37.400 but it really impacts a lot of stuff just outside 1339 01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:40.760 of what we're thinking of regarding occultism in our modern 1340 01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.480 day with these science fiction notions. So I learned this 1341 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:47.400 from this book Operation Mind Control from Walter bou Art. 1342 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:51.039 Great book, highly recommend if anyone folks of the interwebs 1343 01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:55.639 want anything to do with matters of mind control operations, 1344 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.880 not just the mk ulture style experimental stuff. Bo Art 1345 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.800 writes a whole book in nineteen seventy circus seventy eight 1346 01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:05.280 describing how it's operational. So but he puts here in 1347 01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:09.679 this book how Michael Achino Old Temple sat. Michael Akino 1348 01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:14.159 wrote three different Star Wars fan fiction and used to 1349 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.000 He was reported as having been identified standing outside the 1350 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:22.280 Gate at Skywalker Ranch, forcing copies of these manuscripts upon 1351 01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:25.840 people who employed by George Lucas friends with Zamachus and 1352 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:31.199 and Spielberg. Since Lucas does not received un solicited manuscripts, 1353 01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:35.599 the manuscripts were returned unopened upon several occasions. One was 1354 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:41.480 sub subsequently published in a monster magazine. I'll uh let 1355 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:42.960 you know which monster magazine that was. 1356 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:49.119 It was the one of chacherin Razy. Yeah, but you 1357 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:50.880 know back around. 1358 01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:55.840 Are you familiar with Fritz Springmeyer at all? He wrote 1359 01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:00.400 a lot of stuff about you know, underground programs, stuff 1360 01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:00.639 like that. 1361 01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:01.159 Yeah. 1362 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.960 He talks about how they use Star Trek in a 1363 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:08.199 lot of the programs. And there's a lot of weird 1364 01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.800 stuff with Star Trek in general. I love Star Trek, 1365 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:16.880 but that's beside the point. And there was an actress 1366 01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:20.199 in Star Trek, the first one, the original one. Her 1367 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:23.920 brother was a member of the Heaven's Gate Cult. Come on, 1368 01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:27.760 so I'm telling you this is all fuck. 1369 01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:30.559 Come on, I did not know that. 1370 01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:31.519 I love. 1371 01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:34.599 You know. 1372 01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:38.960 Yeah, he killed himself in the Heaven's Gate cult. 1373 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:39.320 We got it. 1374 01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:41.920 I just put a pan in my brain on that one. 1375 01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:44.440 We're definite gonna talking about that in the future here, Julie, because. 1376 01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:47.119 That's uh, you know, man, I love subjects like this 1377 01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:50.280 because I love science fiction stuff. I think Jules Vern 1378 01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.920 actually inspired all of the inner Earth talk and like 1379 01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:57.760 the new Godzilla Calling movies with like the interview stuff, 1380 01:06:57.840 --> 01:06:59.440 that all comes from Jules Vern. 1381 01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.280 Dude, I'm glad you said that. So just like that 1382 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:04.239 all comes from Jules Burn. And then we get these 1383 01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:06.239 ideas of what we're supposed to accept space as from 1384 01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:09.119 folks like Arthur C. Clark and Isaac asim Off for 1385 01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.039 Reackerman's buddies, and you know, he's a literary agent. 1386 01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:13.280 The idea that. 1387 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:15.800 Dinosaurs may still run the Earth comes from this guy, 1388 01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.480 Willie Lay. He's a German fellow scientists fell and sci 1389 01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:22.679 fi writer who was also part of that same sci 1390 01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:25.280 fi club in Los Angeles, whose literary agent was also 1391 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:28.920 for reachermen. So that you know, these ideas that we 1392 01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:32.159 that are getting created through cryptozoology and whatnot. This dude 1393 01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:34.039 is the one who literally started the idea of that 1394 01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.920 disor still exists on the planet in nineteen forty nine. 1395 01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:39.519 And then what did he help? 1396 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:43.440 This dude also wrote a book in nineteen What's that did. 1397 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:46.079 He help with Spielsberg on fucking Jurassic Park. 1398 01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:48.480 Well, look, I mean we're not that far off from 1399 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:50.400 this whole crew, right, So like as Spielberg kind of 1400 01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:52.760 the next generation of the same kind of club, Right, 1401 01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:56.159 that's kind of how I'm almost looking at it, right. Sure, 1402 01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.239 So Willy Lay writes a book in nineteen twelve called 1403 01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.519 Conquest on the Moon with other than Werner von Braun 1404 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:07.159 again Warner von Braun by the shortly thereafter starts a 1405 01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:10.800 pen pal and telephone call relationship with Jack Parsons old 1406 01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:15.760 Marvel Jack Parsons right, von Braun's in Germany. Parsons is 1407 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.680 in Pasadena. You know, what are these two? How do 1408 01:08:18.760 --> 01:08:19.520 these two link up? 1409 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:21.760 Right? And why are they talking on the phone? Their 1410 01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:24.920 international calls are not that you know common back then, right? 1411 01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:28.199 How weird is that? 1412 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:30.319 I wonder? 1413 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:34.159 I wonder if this guy was friends with Cubrick at all, 1414 01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:40.000 because Kubrick and von barn were friends, and he did. 1415 01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:45.000 Now he just sent me with a different one, because 1416 01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:48.119 I don't know who the intersection of Akerman at Kubrick is. 1417 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:52.319 Because definitely Isaac Asimov and Clark were because they were 1418 01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.600 on not only on the set, they were also involved 1419 01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:58.279 with the apall eleven missions at the time. 1420 01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.479 As far as tech they were quote unquote Nicole Advisor's. 1421 01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:03.319 Well, then Kubrick's got to be in there. 1422 01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:04.880 Yeah, they got to be in there. 1423 01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:07.359 Something old Jack Kirby too, Right, So two thousand and 1424 01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:09.279 one of Space Odyssey, they had a comic book from 1425 01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:12.079 Marvel Comics that was supposed to come out simultaneously. That 1426 01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:15.800 was from Jack Kirby. Again, Cocaine Bob meets Marvel Comics. Right, 1427 01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:17.920 we're talking about the same club of folks, right, Jack 1428 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:19.479 Kirby's want of stan Lee's associates. 1429 01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:24.000 Obviously they're all in there. They have to be, They 1430 01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:25.319 absolutely have to be. 1431 01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.800 So I appreciate y'all joined me here on that quick 1432 01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:31.680 journey and how we got to the story of Back 1433 01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:33.960 to the Future, and again how it revolves around I 1434 01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:35.640 took you all on a back to the future yourself 1435 01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.600 talking about how I was just discussing these things last 1436 01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.880 week inadvertently did not even consider at the time how 1437 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.720 much this tied into this future one we already had planned, 1438 01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:46.960 because I didn't really consider how much of the sci 1439 01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:48.159 fi connections there really were. 1440 01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:53.760 But it's obviously pretty deep. So onto the film onto. 1441 01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:55.800 The film, JJ, I'm just going to jump in really quick, 1442 01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:56.479 which promise. 1443 01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:56.880 Shoot. 1444 01:09:57.479 --> 01:10:00.880 Yeah, well okay, so the Michael Oku no thing. Since 1445 01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.039 I've read a lot of his writings, it totally makes 1446 01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:05.359 sense to me he did identify as as Seth. I 1447 01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:07.119 think he even has a fucking story. 1448 01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:09.640 Yeah, he's you're telling me it's a Zizi is a 1449 01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:10.199 zip lord. 1450 01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:13.920 I mean he look at the colors, It's like it's 1451 01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:17.800 his banah thing. It's like very like you know, sapphire tablet, 1452 01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:22.000 like flashing red. It's like just like he was just 1453 01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:25.199 obsessed with like Cabbala and obsessed with the sufferer and 1454 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.439 obsessed with like trying to deify them and make them 1455 01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:31.479 into like real things. And that goes to your point 1456 01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.800 about Warner ron Braun making like the dick shaped rocket. 1457 01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:39.279 It's like that is like very right. If you're like Marty, 1458 01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:43.279 he's the marsh Marshall Martian maybe, but he's like a 1459 01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:45.920 martial figure. So he's like erect. He's eth o fail 1460 01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.079 like we would call it in our history. So he's 1461 01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:52.520 it's like the projections, like the projecting off the earth 1462 01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:56.079 with fire, just like Julia said, the car has fire 1463 01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:58.560 behind it it needs fire for like Hidi and I 1464 01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:02.479 were talking about the chat and fire for transmutation, but 1465 01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:04.680 it's not the only thing that happens. Like we said, 1466 01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:07.600 there's a lot of mercurial elements in it, and Heidi 1467 01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:11.479 caught that amazing point about J. C. Penny because you 1468 01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:14.399 need copper to transmute gold. So one thing I was 1469 01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:18.960 interested in, independent of Nick's amazing notepack, was what is 1470 01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:22.600 the composition of a DeLorean and like, how could you 1471 01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.279 sort of cabalistically mapped steel and specifically the steel that 1472 01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:31.600 was used to make Deloreans. So it is actually an 1473 01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.239 interesting kind of question if you're looking at it from 1474 01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:37.119 like an outchemic color cobalistic loans, so you would have 1475 01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:41.640 to consider it to be to ferratic that lions Gate 1476 01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:46.760 sort of element but becoming from Mars because the content 1477 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:52.600 is largely iron, so it's a majority. So that's really 1478 01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.640 interesting I think to think about, like there's a lot 1479 01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:57.239 of Marshall stuff Elon, like to bring up something Nick 1480 01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.239 said like, yeah, there is kind of an Elon thing 1481 01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:04.159 because it he's obsessed with Mars. And obviously when Ron 1482 01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:07.039 Brown is obsessed with Mars, because there's that it's that 1483 01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:10.279 question in modern occultism. Do men come from Mars or 1484 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:13.520 do they come from Mercury? But I think that Euro's 1485 01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:16.960 journey makes room four. They can come from both, or 1486 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:19.840 they can maybe grow through the paths and come out, 1487 01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:22.760 you know, through the fire if you want to call that, 1488 01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:26.359 and you know, enter the pathiosis whatever. 1489 01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:30.079 Fair enough, But that is that is the story I like, 1490 01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:31.520 I like your heads out and that is with the 1491 01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:35.399 story where we are at the moment, right with the 1492 01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:37.920 storyline here Back to the Future revolves around this the 1493 01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:41.560 transport of Marty McFly Michael J. Fox's character through this 1494 01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:45.319 here fancy car that I well, we can get into 1495 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:47.159 more of this discussion on the car here because you know, 1496 01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:49.640 after we you know, develop more of this tale here. 1497 01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:52.239 But see, I find it very unique that for many 1498 01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:53.319 reasons they chose this car. 1499 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:55.800 But so he meets Doc Brown and you know, they 1500 01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:59.199 get they start doing this seemingly start interrupting time right 1501 01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:01.800 and disrupting reality. But really I would argue that's just 1502 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:04.199 the nature of reality was always gonna happen that way. 1503 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:07.199 But what are your all thoughts here on the characters 1504 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:10.560 that we lay out the story here Back to the Future. 1505 01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:12.640 Right, we got a teenager meeting the old scientists. 1506 01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:16.199 Right again, I would argue, that's a marvel Jack Parsons 1507 01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:19.840 Warner von Braun, right doctor Emit von Braun relationship. 1508 01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:25.439 I I definitely saw this in a different weird I 1509 01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:28.039 was telling Jin in the chat just that I saw 1510 01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:32.600 it as he was like a Zeus type character, because he's, 1511 01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:35.840 you know, gonna be messing with the lightning. Later. 1512 01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:38.960 There's more. I don't want to give it all right now, 1513 01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:42.000 but like, oh, go ahead, please please describe the character 1514 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:43.479 that's that sounds I like words. 1515 01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:47.439 Sure, so he's gonna, you know, overthrow Cronus, but but 1516 01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:50.239 we also have Pluto, we have plutonium. 1517 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.439 So he's gonna throw Cronus by defeating time or by 1518 01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:55.399 traveling through time. That's like a defeat of Chronos. 1519 01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:58.319 Is ever saying, Well, he's gonna he's gonna get him 1520 01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:02.479 out of the unreality to send Marty back through to 1521 01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:08.640 reality by harnessing with his rod that's wrapped like a 1522 01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:13.439 kundalini and he's gonna harness the energy to hook it 1523 01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:14.319 onto the car. 1524 01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:15.600 That's what I see. 1525 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:18.920 And then Neptune post Sidon's there at the under the 1526 01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.560 Seed dance. There's a statue of him. If you catch that, 1527 01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:27.119 he's there, Pluto's there, plutonium. It's the tale of you know, 1528 01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:29.079 them defeating Chronos. 1529 01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:30.760 Eh. 1530 01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:34.399 Yeah, the Under the Seed dance, it certainly seems very 1531 01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:35.840 chilling because it was a very that was one of 1532 01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:37.359 the scenes. Like I said, there's not a lot of 1533 01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:39.640 scenes filmed here, and they put a lot of effort 1534 01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:41.279 into really decorating that. 1535 01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:45.880 I feel like, yeah, they really pish put Yeah I 1536 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:47.960 put that in my notes too, that they spent a 1537 01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:49.279 lot of time decorating that. 1538 01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:54.119 Really it's and all that like on and on about 1539 01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:55.960 this Under the Seed dance. It was like over and 1540 01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:59.199 over and you know it was a lot Well. 1541 01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:01.119 So that same age or is that like why do 1542 01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:05.520 you think Martin McFly is always wearing uh this life preserver? 1543 01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:09.479 Preserver there? 1544 01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:09.680 Right? 1545 01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:13.880 So yeah, they joke on him, right he gets found 1546 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:14.479 on about it. 1547 01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:17.039 Yeah, when he walks into the until they get the 1548 01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:20.840 place to get wherever at the diner, what you would 1549 01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:21.439 you fall overboard? 1550 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:22.039 Is that what he says? 1551 01:15:22.920 --> 01:15:25.640 And then when he gets hit by the car and 1552 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:29.600 and Lorraine's parents take him in and she's like, I 1553 01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:34.359 figured you're a sailor because you have the life preserver. 1554 01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:38.039 On what's the use of Calvin Klein in that in 1555 01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:40.600 that aspect too, right, because they go he's wearing Calvin 1556 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:41.279 Kline underwear. 1557 01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:45.359 So he starts going by the name of because that's Mormons. 1558 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:48.000 Because he got his new name, and he got his 1559 01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:51.199 underwear and got his underwear, he got his new name. 1560 01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:55.439 Considered that way, he went through the veil and he 1561 01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:58.359 has his he's the news specifically more. 1562 01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:03.079 Yeah, but I mean like in general, well in general. 1563 01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:07.520 Any magician would take him name. I mean, it's not 1564 01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:08.439 just a Morman thing. 1565 01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:15.119 You're an aspect to that's any magician, Masons and Masons 1566 01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:16.399 ceremony magician. 1567 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:21.760 Yes, yes, is this terrificant that they're purple and that 1568 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:22.680 they bring that up. 1569 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:24.800 I've never seen purple be royalty. 1570 01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:27.199 There would be probably more of like making a claim 1571 01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:29.039 that you've actually seen both sides. 1572 01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:33.079 Yeah, red is both life and death. Yeah, the red. 1573 01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:37.720 Resolution of paradox, bringing the blue and the red together, 1574 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:39.960 the material spiritual and. 1575 01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:43.159 Even when he goes to the dance, Yeah, he's in 1576 01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:46.800 a reddish jacket again, even at the dance, so. 1577 01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:50.399 They keep I thought that was an amazing point. 1578 01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:53.680 Sorry, Heidi, No, no, I was just saying they keep 1579 01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:54.199 him in red. 1580 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:57.680 See this is really interesting. But I want to say 1581 01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.199 the thing really quick about what Heidi was saying, to 1582 01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:04.960 build off that joked. In Vedic astrology, Jupiter is the 1583 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:08.880 planet of the teacher, so it's but it's the spiritual teacher, 1584 01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:12.600 not the not necessarily the material teacher, which is actually 1585 01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:16.119 more Gevrotic in Hebrew. Balls that's actually really interesting as well. 1586 01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:20.479 And but I agree with what Heidi is saying in 1587 01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:23.479 like I don't use obviously the Greek cosmology, but I 1588 01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:26.319 understand what she's saying, and it makes a lot of 1589 01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:30.439 sense because there's this third idea of So we spoke 1590 01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:34.840 a little bit yesterday about the hyper Uranian the trans 1591 01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:37.760 Plutonian obviously that's though both of those ideas are in 1592 01:17:37.880 --> 01:17:40.439 this film. But then there's like the third idea, which 1593 01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:45.680 is the trans Neptunian. So it goes exactly with this 1594 01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:49.199 under the sea the dreaming god. That's even one of 1595 01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:51.479 the names for a Vishnu. And if you map him 1596 01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:53.159 to the tree, he'd be like a joke Ma, so 1597 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:57.960 very Neptunian figure. He's dreaming under the superno ocean. He's 1598 01:17:58.039 --> 01:18:01.680 sleeping on his back in a c like a deis 1599 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:04.319 I guess you could say. So, yeah, it's like this 1600 01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:08.039 the dreaming God. He's sleeping reality into existence. And then 1601 01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:12.920 there's this last idea that but the idea of space 1602 01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.039 versus time, and this goes perfectly along with that because 1603 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:20.800 Vishnu is assigned space, whereas like as Heidi said, she 1604 01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:23.600 called him Kronos, I'm gonna call him Shiva, but he 1605 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:28.479 is time at least in one version, is too. 1606 01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:31.279 Yeah, the women, we can't forget the women too. 1607 01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:35.039 So it's always this battle. It's always this battle in 1608 01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:39.000 like sort of occult thinking like do you master space? 1609 01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:42.039 Do you master time? Like which one is it? Which 1610 01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:46.800 one is superior? And it's because it's both poles, right, 1611 01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:48.800 it's really it's it's a hoke mod and bin off. 1612 01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:52.000 So it's both of those things and they're like it's 1613 01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:56.199 like electric, like very lightning. So but that's how they 1614 01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:57.600 kind of spark off each other. 1615 01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:02.760 Interesting. We have any more thoughts here on on the 1616 01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:04.600 uh Mary Flies. 1617 01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:08.159 A character, Oh not Marty, No, sorry, his girlfriend. 1618 01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:09.319 You want to go to his girlfriend next? 1619 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:10.199 Yeah? 1620 01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.279 Yeah, I just think at the very beginning, when she's 1621 01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:15.960 coming out of the school, Well, first of all, Jennifer 1622 01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:19.920 is white Wave, and so she that's represented with Venus absolutely, 1623 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:22.399 and she's at the top of the stairs and he 1624 01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:25.800 never ascends up, but she starts coming down and she 1625 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.960 meets him, but he doesn't go up, which makes total sense. 1626 01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:32.439 And then we've got the mom too. But you know, 1627 01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:36.760 her name is Lorraine, which doesn't translate into much but 1628 01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:41.119 La Rain like queen and isis and then we get 1629 01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:43.560 into you know, I'm gonna marry my son things, so 1630 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:45.760 that you were you were. 1631 01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:47.319 Saying it doesn't relate to much, but I think Nick 1632 01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:49.720 was talking about it released to Cronos, right, the Rain. 1633 01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:54.319 Oh yeah yeah, and some of the uh the Jamatu 1634 01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:58.279 when I get to it, yeah, Lorrain. 1635 01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:01.119 Oh yeah h And that's that's what Hatty was just 1636 01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:03.119 saying too, right, So you came up with some Jamatria 1637 01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:06.520 conclusions concluding what Hatty was just saying without you know, 1638 01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:07.520 from two Cybarate angles. 1639 01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:09.319 It sounds like, yeah, yeah, I have to. 1640 01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:11.199 Look for that. 1641 01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:12.720 That's pretty interesting. 1642 01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:14.159 I know when you were saying that, Heidi, I was 1643 01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:15.960 just you know, I was like, wait a second, I've 1644 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:18.119 heard these, I've heard some similar things before, and I 1645 01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:20.600 was looking back at Next Nights and me yep ye, Nick, 1646 01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:22.239 Nick already reached the inclusions. 1647 01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:24.880 No no, no, no, no, no, you totally. 1648 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.600 I think I think it's interesting because I think it's great. 1649 01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:29.840 You're saying it from one perspective. He's doing jamatry and 1650 01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:32.560 come up with that same conclusion. It's reaching these things. 1651 01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:35.159 That's that's interesting because there's a there's a there's a 1652 01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:36.159 deeper launch. 1653 01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:38.279 Even with totching too. 1654 01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:41.840 Yeah, yeah, okay, I like this. That's interesting. 1655 01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:46.720 When the prince is at Mercury, like Marty's at Mercury 1656 01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:52.119 before he leaves on his magic journey. Okay, the mother 1657 01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:55.920 the venus sprample, Heidi said, So we're kind of synthesizing 1658 01:20:56.039 --> 01:21:00.960 Nick and Heidi his ideas. She's attracted to him. That's 1659 01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:04.119 kind of the idea. But it's really it's like electromagnetic, 1660 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:09.039 that's really what it is. But it gets a confusing feeling, right, 1661 01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:12.800 It's it's easily confused. That's very hermetic, that's very mercurial. 1662 01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:15.640 It's like kind of entwined. 1663 01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:20.880 So because father and he took his father's place when 1664 01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:23.720 he got hit by the car, so he becomes the 1665 01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:27.960 father's journey and it's it's linear than and like just 1666 01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:30.600 like when I say isis and stuff like I'm talking 1667 01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:33.039 about like with the Isis horse, what does she do? 1668 01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:37.479 She says he's the reincarnation of her husband. So that 1669 01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:39.279 combination makes total sense. 1670 01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:45.479 You know, yes, Oh, real quick, h JJ, if you 1671 01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:49.199 don't mind, Yeah, I was, I did. I wasn't speaking 1672 01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:51.199 up fast enough before we left off a Martin McFly. 1673 01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:53.079 I did actually have some things just real quick. I 1674 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:55.359 didn't want to with him because I did have a 1675 01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:55.920 section just. 1676 01:21:55.920 --> 01:21:56.399 At least do. 1677 01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:00.319 Going on with his character, right, yes, kind of the 1678 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:03.680 uh he's kind of that that not only the Hero's journey, 1679 01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:06.760 but he's kind of that Masonic kind of uh what 1680 01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:08.680 do they call it, like sun God kind of thing. 1681 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:08.920 Right. 1682 01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:14.079 Well, see, this is this is something that I've said before. 1683 01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:16.920 I and Horace would fit in there, just with total us. 1684 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:18.720 That's what I was thinking up, the kind of a 1685 01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:19.399 horror situation. 1686 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.279 Well, the thing is, in my opinion, the Hero's Journey. 1687 01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:24.800 I mean, you're gonna have different characters for the same 1688 01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:28.239 exact person or energy. It's just gonna have a different name. 1689 01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:30.800 Like I've said before, I think like to and Horace 1690 01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:35.159 and Raw, it's all the same technically. I guess energy 1691 01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.319 or thing. It's just during a different time in space. 1692 01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:38.119 It's something else. 1693 01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:41.000 But uh right, that's well, that's what that's the term 1694 01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:45.680 of hermetic, right, that's thought and and another character, right, 1695 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:46.319 very chemical. 1696 01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:48.800 Yeah, you from going from one character to the next. 1697 01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:52.119 And they matched me together and then they become Hermes 1698 01:22:52.119 --> 01:22:53.119 trist Magestus, right. 1699 01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:57.399 Yeah, but with Martin McFly as, uh that is the 1700 01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:02.600 nature of cultism, it seems, yes, Marty McFly as Mercury 1701 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:05.159 and Hermes kind of like an archetype. But I did 1702 01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:09.279 I did have him there too, But Kuser Peach mentioned 1703 01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:14.520 his name is Mars though too. Yeah, Martian right, yeah, Mars, Yeah, 1704 01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:15.920 like war force. 1705 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:19.800 Kind of this this chaos effect, right, is that what 1706 01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:22.560 that means is like a chaos effort or cho. 1707 01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:29.840 Any chaos to create change regardless, someone's messenger. I looked 1708 01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:32.359 at him as a messenger between both worlds. I even 1709 01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:35.000 looked at it like in the beginning when he plays 1710 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.960 the guitar, kind of like the like the logos of Thunder, 1711 01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:41.640 Hermes invents the lyre. So, I mean I did wonder 1712 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.159 if there was like somewhere a connection with that. He's 1713 01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:47.600 kind of a trickster again even playing the guitar, that's 1714 01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:52.880 vibration and sound, you know, to right to the. 1715 01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:55.199 Loudest degree, right, So that's a very trickster element to that. 1716 01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:58.399 Right, Technically, he does go to the future and brings 1717 01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:01.039 back knowledge. I mean, he knows what's his face's death, 1718 01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.680 So I mean he is somewhere who was going back 1719 01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:08.560 and forth with bringing knowledge Hermes or I could be 1720 01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:11.960 wrong about the exact person. He had? What wings on 1721 01:24:12.119 --> 01:24:13.039 his shoes? 1722 01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:15.720 This guy's got to ask you, right, he's got a 1723 01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:17.159 skateboard with wings, right. 1724 01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:19.199 He's got a skateboard and a hovering skateboard, so I 1725 01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:21.199 mean he does kind of got like traveling feet in 1726 01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:21.640 the sense. 1727 01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:25.000 Yeah, I was going to ask you about that because 1728 01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:27.560 that is the hermit real quick with the wings. 1729 01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:32.920 Right, do you know how much? Go ahead, I was 1730 01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:36.359 just gonna say, because I love sneakers and I have 1731 01:24:37.159 --> 01:24:39.039 a lot of Nikes. Do you know how much the 1732 01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:43.960 Marty mcflies are? Dude, don't even fucking. 1733 01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:44.319 Try to. 1734 01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:48.279 But is it isn't Nike. It's a good point because 1735 01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:50.119 isn't Nike an ancient Greek god as well? 1736 01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:53.199 Yeah, that's why I bring it up because I also 1737 01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.479 own the forest Gump running shoes. 1738 01:24:58.720 --> 01:24:59.279 For Gump. 1739 01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.880 Right, I won't tell you how much I paid for him. 1740 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:06.039 But anyways, Nike is very important because we got like 1741 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:12.600 this whole Poseidon Mars chronos and he wears those nikes 1742 01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:15.800 throughout almost the entire movie except for when he changes 1743 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:19.119 it over to the black converse. But anyways, the Marty 1744 01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:22.520 McFly nikes are like a couple grand They don't even 1745 01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:27.279 make that style anymore. But anyways, go ahead. 1746 01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:32.039 Uh one other thing that I had to I mean, 1747 01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:34.359 Marty McFly, you get the m m you know that's 1748 01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:38.319 very Masonic. You have McFly, you already have like the 1749 01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:41.279 fly in there, And this one could be a stretch, 1750 01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:44.000 but he did find it interesting that in the movie 1751 01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:46.520 he does get i think aggravated it maybe more than 1752 01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:51.079 once being called the chicken. Nobody calls me the chicken can. 1753 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.439 Call him red too later, right, So that's another kind 1754 01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:54.199 of Mars reference. 1755 01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:58.920 Right, And Mercury's animal was a rooster, So maybe that's 1756 01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:01.279 why they want to be the chicken, because no, a rooster, 1757 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:01.720 I don't know. 1758 01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:05.319 So it sounds like they're covering the whole basis of 1759 01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:07.159 the planetary system here with one character. 1760 01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:14.319 Yeah, exactly, he's gonna he's gonna any any male energy 1761 01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:16.399 in that cabalistic tree is going to be all him 1762 01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:20.159 and every female energy and that cabalistic tree. That's probably 1763 01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:22.960 why you have the girlfriend in the beginning in order 1764 01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:25.079 for him to my opinion, in order for you to 1765 01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:27.800 cross the abyss, you have to kind of untangle the 1766 01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:30.640 feminine energy. That's why he doesn't bang his girlfriend. Now 1767 01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:33.560 on the other side, if he would have banged his 1768 01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:35.239 mom things, you know what I'm just saying, like, now 1769 01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:37.439 you have the total opposite. Like it's just. 1770 01:26:41.319 --> 01:26:46.119 So the hero's journey, this travel through the cabalistic tree, 1771 01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:50.479 this is all this is all represented by traveling, by 1772 01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:52.760 traveling through these different planets of his character. Right, he's 1773 01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:57.119 representing Mercury when one time he's representing you know what 1774 01:26:57.239 --> 01:26:57.800 was the Purple one? 1775 01:26:57.840 --> 01:26:58.079 Again? 1776 01:26:58.159 --> 01:26:59.880 Was that was that Pluto. 1777 01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:03.079 Saturday? 1778 01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:06.760 But the next point of Braxis too. I was thinking 1779 01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:09.039 of Braxis with the chicken things. 1780 01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:10.920 Are these are these all the same things though? 1781 01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:12.920 Like the heroes the gate. 1782 01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:16.640 Yeah, so the chickensary travels. 1783 01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:20.960 Yeah, he's starting from position A you could say, jumps 1784 01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:25.600 in the Dolorean, then ends up he travels through time 1785 01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:29.279 but the Wikipedia was very specific to say not through space. 1786 01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:32.720 There you go, space is there? There's spot right now, 1787 01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:34.319 spaceball all right there? 1788 01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:39.039 Well one point the one point twenty one gigawatts to 1789 01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:42.680 charge it is for? So think about I don't know 1790 01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:43.359 if you know. 1791 01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:45.359 I have that. 1792 01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:47.760 Okay, did you say one point did you say one 1793 01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:50.000 point twenty one jawats one point. 1794 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:51.199 Twenty one jigawatts? 1795 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:54.640 But I need a nuclear reaction to to generate the 1796 01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:55.159 one point. 1797 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:09.880 Point I definitely have something on that. 1798 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:13.680 So before we get to the one point twenty one, 1799 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:15.880 Jacob watch what was this a Praxis and chicken business? 1800 01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:20.399 I don't know just when Nick says that's what first 1801 01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:21.720 came to my mind was a. 1802 01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:23.239 Brax what's the connection there? 1803 01:28:23.279 --> 01:28:23.319 What? 1804 01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:25.239 I'm not familiar with them with a Braxism. 1805 01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:26.720 Because he doesn't want to be called chicken? 1806 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:30.720 No, no, what is a Braxis? Though, Jim, you want 1807 01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:31.800 to go on a Braxis? 1808 01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:32.199 So? 1809 01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:36.039 Broxis is a goetic spirit who's often associated with Saint Peter. 1810 01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:38.119 If you're looking at it through more like left hand 1811 01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:40.920 path so falsest and ones like how I used to 1812 01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.600 and so it was, he's like a guardian of gates 1813 01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:46.800 you could say if he serves the same function in 1814 01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:50.119 the GOA as Sam Peter doesn't like the normative because 1815 01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:52.039 they're all a colonel and. 1816 01:28:52.119 --> 01:28:55.560 Chicken colonel he has, he's the chicken headed. 1817 01:28:56.359 --> 01:29:00.920 Right there we got and then he feed our snakes. 1818 01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:03.800 There we go and he holds his sigil is like 1819 01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:06.840 a key and like an a and some other things. 1820 01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:10.039 But yeah, like I remember that left hand path business. 1821 01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:12.760 Remember what he just said about that, because later later, 1822 01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:15.199 that's going to be something I'm going to talk about later. 1823 01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:18.600 It's the chicken headed snake got eating itself there, right, 1824 01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:20.560 That's what we're talking about with the braxis. 1825 01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:24.079 Well, not the it's not the That's what I was 1826 01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:25.800 getting confused with. I couldn't think of the names I 1827 01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:26.399 was getting them. 1828 01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:30.439 Think just think of him in the positive polarity. So 1829 01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:33.479 he's like the guardian of the gate. He's standing at Mercury. 1830 01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:36.479 He the guy has to he has to go through 1831 01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:38.560 where does he go through? He has to go through 1832 01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:40.800 a eisode, so he has to pass through the truth 1833 01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:45.319 through the world. Someone said like the Doctor Brown was 1834 01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:47.640 the sort of like the working next set it. I 1835 01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:49.560 was like, there's a tre mantrial link to like the 1836 01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:50.800 world or the truth. 1837 01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:56.600 With his name is is everything. Emma means everything. 1838 01:29:56.520 --> 01:29:59.680 Everything, so it's everything that we see. So it's that 1839 01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:03.640 path between like he has to go from householder to 1840 01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:07.960 like magician. So he's a chicken because he's a householder, 1841 01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:10.640 meaning that he doesn't know what the outside world is like. 1842 01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:14.079 But once he's a rooster, the broxis he has to 1843 01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.399 pass through that gate. It's like passing through the gate 1844 01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:20.600 to adulthood. So he passed exactly. 1845 01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:21.079 Looks like a rooster. 1846 01:30:21.479 --> 01:30:26.119 Yeah, yeah, you're too right, it's like a harder rocket 1847 01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:27.840 passing through negative space. 1848 01:30:29.319 --> 01:30:32.399 It kind of seems like people are calling him chicken 1849 01:30:32.479 --> 01:30:34.159 or people are calling him red. It seems like he's 1850 01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:36.720 popping off like he's a cock. Right, kind of khaky 1851 01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:37.079 about it. 1852 01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:44.079 Nick's already laughing, not set up, yes to all of that. 1853 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:48.079 So do we have any Nick does anything else on 1854 01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:51.439 Martiny McFly before we cruise over to doctor Everything Von Braun. 1855 01:30:52.359 --> 01:30:53.880 Yeah, sure, yeah, I'm good. 1856 01:30:53.960 --> 01:31:01.560 Yes, So Julie think about twenty one gigawatts? 1857 01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:03.880 Yeah, well, I was want to say, I figure we 1858 01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:05.439 get into that since he's the one point twenty one 1859 01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:06.119 jigabat guy. 1860 01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:09.520 Right, Okay, so that's that, That is how he feels this. 1861 01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:12.840 Time machine is through this immense amount of power and 1862 01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:15.920 and it's, uh, he needs this exit. I think they 1863 01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:19.760 you know, obviously created through this you know, nuclear reaction 1864 01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:22.600 with plutonium. But these are all elements of you know, 1865 01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:25.800 real science, kind of rooted in some science fiction aspects 1866 01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:28.239 to it, right, and this one point twenty one jigawats 1867 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:30.199 is probably rooted in some occultism, right, Is that? 1868 01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:30.920 Is that what I'm here? 1869 01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:35.039 Well, I don't know what anybody else got out of it, 1870 01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:39.000 but I'll just give you kind of my very limited 1871 01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:45.880 knowledge and what it means to me. Because before, before 1872 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:50.920 he says the thing about the jigawats, he sends Einstein 1873 01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:54.359 into the future, right, and when he gets back, it's 1874 01:31:55.119 --> 01:32:00.239 one twenty one a M yeah, And then he's as 1875 01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:06.600 one point twenty one jigawats. And this to me stood 1876 01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:08.800 out because it's like, why did they one two one 1877 01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:11.439 one two one? Why they keep using this one to one? 1878 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:16.640 And I mean, I just I don't remember was JJ 1879 01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:18.800 on the Gamatria episode or not. 1880 01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:21.199 I'm glad I'm not the only one Joe. 1881 01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:25.079 No, Okay, So me and Nick were talking about on 1882 01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:31.199 the Gamatria episode the significance of four and the significance 1883 01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:34.880 of eight, And there are plenty of eighths in here, 1884 01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:39.840 but the one point one, right, the one point twenty 1885 01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:42.680 one is also the four. So I feel like, you know, 1886 01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:45.560 and they're they're using that over and over again. One 1887 01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:49.279 point twenty one? Jigawats what one twenty one a m 1888 01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:53.760 And it's very specific at like to me that that 1889 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:59.079 would be something they want to catch your attention. So 1890 01:32:59.399 --> 01:33:01.159 I don't what you guys get out of that. 1891 01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:04.359 Before I say I'm gonna have Nick go because he's 1892 01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:06.199 got the Jamatria, I think he might have to. 1893 01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:09.119 Yeah, you know what the thing is is it pops 1894 01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:14.000 up as if I was to go through my notes. Yeah, 1895 01:33:14.960 --> 01:33:17.000 there was a lot of eights, that is for sure. 1896 01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:19.000 There was even there was even a picture that I 1897 01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:22.279 had that even shows an eight. Like one of the 1898 01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:25.319 roads is like a route or something. It shows out 1899 01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:27.439 with Marty the frame which. 1900 01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:30.000 When you got there, Bud, we got Hill Street, Hill 1901 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:30.439 and Maine. 1902 01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:33.840 Do you have control of this because or do I? 1903 01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:36.199 You got it nice. 1904 01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:42.479 Right there? 1905 01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:46.560 Mm hmm. 1906 01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:50.079 And it was obviously very intentional because this is a set. 1907 01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:51.239 They all did this on right, So. 1908 01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:55.840 This is not like add the numbers three ninety five too, 1909 01:33:58.119 --> 01:34:02.960 like it's eight eight eight. 1910 01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:08.319 Well, so also also just really quick, the clock tower 1911 01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:12.800 has a lion on either side or a lion s yeah, 1912 01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:17.960 and then he lives in lion estate, which is two lions. Yeah, 1913 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:22.039 and the lion is Leo, which is the eighth month 1914 01:34:22.119 --> 01:34:24.680 of the year. So you're getting double eights on the 1915 01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:28.479 clock tower and double eights on the estate that he 1916 01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:29.000 lives in. 1917 01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:33.039 So that you're saying. 1918 01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:39.239 Because the lion is Leo the eighth month. So if 1919 01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:41.359 you look at it, it's eighty eight on the clock 1920 01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:44.880 tower and eighty eight on lion estates and then one 1921 01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:48.359 point twenty one jigawatts and one twenty one a m 1922 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:53.039 is four and so if you added that, that's eight again. 1923 01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:56.720 But anyways, a lot of eights, a lot of fours, 1924 01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:00.760 a lot of a lot of significance on time and 1925 01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:03.479 numbers for sure, the four for. 1926 01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:06.640 Sure, because it's all of the elements together. And so 1927 01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:11.119 you're right, yeah, charging it with everything, And think of Emmett. 1928 01:35:11.279 --> 01:35:14.239 What is he He's everything, He's the universe and and 1929 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:17.640 he's the one that's always talking about this for because 1930 01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:22.880 it makes sense because he's everything so goodness these. 1931 01:35:22.840 --> 01:35:25.720 Lines, yeah, yeah, pretty much. 1932 01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:30.760 Yeah, these are some pretty interesting little uh. I mean again, 1933 01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:32.119 taking into note that this. 1934 01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:34.119 Is all that's a Russian pin. 1935 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:38.479 This, you know, this is all very well designed, you know, 1936 01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:40.760 for a purpose here. This is the strange enough, this 1937 01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:42.319 is I believe this is the same set they use 1938 01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:44.960 for Gremlins the year prior to yours, prior maybe. 1939 01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:49.479 As far as the Badass I loves. 1940 01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:52.800 Have you watched Gremlins and you watched you know, back 1941 01:35:52.840 --> 01:35:54.439 to Future, you'd be like, wait a second, I've seen 1942 01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:58.720 this town square before the but no, these lines are 1943 01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:00.840 very interesting because you obviously you see him like very 1944 01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:04.119 prominently between you know, him and Brown in the middle 1945 01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:06.000 of the clock. And it's a very it's a very 1946 01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:09.760 scene that you recalled. It gets, you know, very long 1947 01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:11.199 lasting a scene in your memory. 1948 01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:13.560 I feel like there is a clock at the beginning 1949 01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:17.880 the very opening scene though, jj of that a guy 1950 01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:20.760 hanging off of the clock tower, just like that. 1951 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:23.279 It's it's you got to find an image of that. 1952 01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:24.720 I'm gonna have to go back and watch it though 1953 01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:25.760 and find that do it. 1954 01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:29.439 It's in there. It's an opening scene, opening scene. 1955 01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:33.680 It's interesting that errows like it's almost pointing onto like 1956 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:38.920 the paths that the magicians should take, like which way 1957 01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:39.279 he should? 1958 01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:42.319 I know that I have some things that I want 1959 01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:43.760 to say, but I don't want to say it yet 1960 01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:46.039 because it'll wreck stuff because we're not there yet. 1961 01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:51.359 But yes, absolutely, or should I wreck it? 1962 01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:55.720 What? Nick? 1963 01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:58.000 Did you have anything else on that pen you were 1964 01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:01.600 talking about? Excuse me all the what you were talking about? 1965 01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:06.479 A pin on your slides here? Pin somebody's somebody? 1966 01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:09.880 Oh yeah, yeah, oh wow, my bad, my bad. Yeah, yeah, 1967 01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:11.840 that was the pin that I mentioned before. You can't 1968 01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:13.760 really see it too well, but it is a it's 1969 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:17.359 a pin that goes back to uh, some Russian stuff again. 1970 01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:19.239 It's just when when I get into it, it's just 1971 01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:23.720 a lot of stuff, rocket stuff jamatria. Uh yeah, let 1972 01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:24.920 me pull up my notes. 1973 01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:27.840 Wouldn't that be word of its Russian rocket stuff? It connects. Besides, 1974 01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:28.520 it was. 1975 01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:33.359 Something with like art art gallery, okay, yeah, place of Uh. 1976 01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:35.960 Marty wears a souvenir. It's a souvenir button from the 1977 01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:39.680 Art and Revolution Soviet art and designed from nineteen seventeen 1978 01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:44.359 to nineteen thirty five. Exhibition that toured the UK in 1979 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:48.680 the late nineteen seventies early eighties, mostly known at Liverpool's 1980 01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:49.760 Walker Art Gallery. 1981 01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:52.920 Well, that's a weird thing to incorporate in this film, 1982 01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:53.560 not you think. 1983 01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:56.560 Well, there's tons of like weird Russian shit, so many 1984 01:37:56.640 --> 01:38:00.760 Easter eggs that was very red on of them. 1985 01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:05.399 Okay, there you get more more embedding in the communism 1986 01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:07.159 and the era of the of the times, right, the 1987 01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:08.479 Ansi communism. 1988 01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:13.760 Mara one thing I can bring up I have in 1989 01:38:13.840 --> 01:38:16.840 front of me, now, sure if it goes with the 1990 01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:20.239 seventeen in the eight it's kind of like what I say. 1991 01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:22.159 I'm around a roll with these numbers. Please, yeah, please 1992 01:38:22.239 --> 01:38:25.199 keep going, all right. 1993 01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:28.239 All right? Yeah, when Marty leaves the house, he is 1994 01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:32.439 the address. It's sixteen forty six at equal seventeen, and 1995 01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:37.159 then you can turn that into eight again. Then you 1996 01:38:37.239 --> 01:38:39.840 also get I don't know what made me think about it, 1997 01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:43.800 that is a date and I looked that up for 1998 01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:49.479 like anything to go with ma sonic stuff. And back 1999 01:38:49.560 --> 01:38:57.399 in October twenties, well October sixteenth, sixteen forty six, going 2000 01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:01.600 by the old calendar, which would be October twenty sixth, 2001 01:39:01.880 --> 01:39:05.720 sixteen forty six. Elias Ashmole, who was an A Brosa 2002 01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:08.399 Crucian too. We've covered him on the Occult Rejects with 2003 01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:19.640 Absidia Mott, and he got initiated into freemasonry. And that 2004 01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:23.000 is the very moment Doc and Marty fire up at 2005 01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:26.880 the Loren. It is October twenty six, nineteen eighty five. 2006 01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:31.319 Interesting, it looks like Marty's address is sixteen forty six. 2007 01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:35.560 Yes, that's why, Yeah, the first yeah, sixty. 2008 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:37.800 These things are a lot of these things are deeply 2009 01:39:37.880 --> 01:39:38.840 better than is what you're telling me. 2010 01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:43.920 In sixteen forty six, the Saint John that there was 2011 01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:46.039 a Masonic Wait, hold on one second, there was one 2012 01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:47.720 thing that I wanted to just mention. Anything is interesting. 2013 01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:52.000 Thomas Brown's he has a book that comes out that 2014 01:39:52.279 --> 01:39:56.720 coins in sixteen forty six, as well coins the word electricity, 2015 01:39:57.680 --> 01:40:00.680 So the word electricity even comes out in six forty six. 2016 01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:03.880 And somebody else that I have mentioned multiple times, and 2017 01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:08.359 I've said about like being able to move you know, 2018 01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:12.079 spirits of demons through light and crystals. Anthonysius Kircher in 2019 01:40:12.279 --> 01:40:15.600 sixteen forty six put out a book saying that he 2020 01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:19.039 thinks that you can project moving images with light. 2021 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:22.560 Okay, that's very interesting thing because that's really what we're 2022 01:40:22.560 --> 01:40:25.159 talking about here is the magic through the moving images 2023 01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:25.479 of light. 2024 01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.880 Huh yeah, And I should have clarified on my address, 2025 01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:31.479 it's the real address of the real house. 2026 01:40:31.680 --> 01:40:34.079 So nine three zero throw that might be the happen 2027 01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:35.600 because I think it does change. 2028 01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:40.439 I think that's just the actual reel at like where 2029 01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:41.039 they film. 2030 01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:43.039 And I was just looking at that too. How do 2031 01:40:43.039 --> 01:40:44.960 you write there is the idea of they made a 2032 01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:47.560 fictional address for these buildings versus the real locations, even 2033 01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:55.199 the numbers once again, because right, no reality is yeah, 2034 01:40:56.319 --> 01:40:57.840 well there you go, there you go. That's a good 2035 01:40:57.880 --> 01:40:58.600 way to look at it too. 2036 01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:00.640 Go ahead and. 2037 01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:04.399 Bringing the polls together. You're layering it, you're using you're 2038 01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:06.880 choosing a house that has a magic number to begin with. 2039 01:41:07.079 --> 01:41:10.079 There's lots of houses that do. Then you're going to 2040 01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:14.359 add in your metafictional very all magicians do this. They 2041 01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:17.159 kind of create like a fake narrative. We could say 2042 01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:19.319 it's not that it's a lie, it's just that it's 2043 01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:22.039 it's like a movie. It's like kind of fictional, so 2044 01:41:22.600 --> 01:41:24.479 but it's kind of real at the same time because 2045 01:41:24.479 --> 01:41:27.159 there's like real it's a real underlying truth, like I'm 2046 01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:30.520 really impressed by everybody. Let me just say, like how 2047 01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:34.039 good like Nick is, Heidi is, Julia is you are JJ. 2048 01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:36.279 Like I didn't know any of this coming into this, 2049 01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:38.720 Like I didn't really have that deep of a thought, 2050 01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:41.079 but I I and I have to say that the 2051 01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:44.880 thing about Jupiter that he he keeps saying is really 2052 01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:50.319 important because there's the sayingbull that the spark, the mercurial element, 2053 01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:55.039 that the starting point of the prince is the heart 2054 01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:58.960 of that Jupiter character or the Zeus character, it's the 2055 01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:02.199 heart of Hesseid. So it has to go through his 2056 01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:06.119 journey in order to be expansive like lightning, to travel 2057 01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:09.680 through space, that's the whole thing is and become lightning. 2058 01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:13.319 Then he reflects off the water like a mirror, and 2059 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:16.720 the lightning goes everywhere else and then can energize like 2060 01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:17.560 everything else. 2061 01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:20.159 There's just so much lightning stuff here, right. 2062 01:42:21.199 --> 01:42:25.279 Oh, there's some exactly what he said, and then I'm 2063 01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:27.319 going to say something at that towards the end, and 2064 01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:30.399 it's gonna all come together exactly what he said. Like 2065 01:42:30.520 --> 01:42:35.239 that's how I interpreted it anyway. But I like everybody's 2066 01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:38.479 stuff because it's all different, you know. But it's a 2067 01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:40.800 duality movie. Oh yeah, for sure. 2068 01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:43.279 I think there's a duality to all of it. 2069 01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:45.359 Right, it's right, dre in Hill Valley, you're getting a 2070 01:42:45.439 --> 01:42:51.439 duality exactly. That's even another thing you November fifth is 2071 01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:52.079 one of the dates in. 2072 01:42:52.079 --> 01:42:56.560 The movie, right, November fifth, nineteen fifty five was the day. 2073 01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:58.199 I think that's when we developed the fox capacity. 2074 01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:02.800 Right, that's Guy Folke's day too, right, Oh yeah, Hill 2075 01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:04.399 Valley matches Guy folks. 2076 01:43:05.640 --> 01:43:06.119 New ship. 2077 01:43:06.359 --> 01:43:08.279 Yes. Well. 2078 01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:14.560 And you mentioned Germany before and Einstein's Freemasons. The Freemason 2079 01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:19.039 lodge that he was reportedly associated with is the Theodore 2080 01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:21.920 ding new Hoff number one one. 2081 01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:25.960 One in Berlin, Germany. I thought that was weird. 2082 01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:32.039 Nice, No Hill Valley just even throw in that too, 2083 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.520 which I thought was weird because as I go along, 2084 01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:37.359 like when we talk about things all at the Jamatia, 2085 01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:39.640 as I follow it in my notes, you get a 2086 01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:42.079 lot of twins stuff coming up, and you even have 2087 01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:44.800 twin pines. You don't know a lot of stuff. It 2088 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:48.840 does match the twins in twin Peaks and two Keys. 2089 01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:51.720 I thought that was maybe interesting because I think I 2090 01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:55.560 started getting all right, just real quick. It is the 2091 01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:58.159 next thing I have anyway at mayor Goldie Wilson. I 2092 01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:01.880 looked up, you know, Goldie Wilson. His his name matches 2093 01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:05.800 twin dragons, the Secret Key, and Wilson equals the Joker 2094 01:44:05.960 --> 01:44:10.439 and the Dragon, and Valley equals like Marty, justter ussr 2095 01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:11.680 and Caduces. 2096 01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:13.079 How do you like? 2097 01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:16.279 And man the Caducers too. 2098 01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:20.119 You will get an excluppius later on, which is, you know, 2099 01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:23.720 the same thing, just minus one of the one of 2100 01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:24.399 the snakes. 2101 01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:25.720 Right. 2102 01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:30.479 Also, if you add eleven plus five plus fifty five 2103 01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:33.359 is seventy one some plus one. 2104 01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:37.920 You get another eight Holy smokes, eleven times eleven one 2105 01:44:37.960 --> 01:44:38.399 twenty one. 2106 01:44:39.680 --> 01:44:41.279 The eights are really everywhere in this film. I mean 2107 01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:43.960 it went really hard tocore on that. Huh yeah, old Max, 2108 01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:46.239 Yeah for sure, shooting Max. 2109 01:44:46.279 --> 01:44:46.720 And I like that. 2110 01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:49.520 I like the Maxing terminology of the I'm trying to 2111 01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:52.159 the zoo the zoomers. That's more of a zoomer term. 2112 01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:55.520 I feel like, Yeah, but if you're very online, like 2113 01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:56.039 if you're. 2114 01:44:56.680 --> 01:44:59.520 Is that a keynote term where we talk about that term. 2115 01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:02.960 That's the zemers, but it's it's keeping by millennial Saturday. 2116 01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:05.960 It's cool, yo. I had that stuff on jennermen. 2117 01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:08.079 It kind of cracks me up, right, like the whole 2118 01:45:08.119 --> 01:45:11.399 idea of Max and you're right this go ahead, nic 2119 01:45:11.479 --> 01:45:11.880 what we're saying. 2120 01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:13.520 Yes, I didn't throw up. I had that. I finally 2121 01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:16.399 looked at that stuff with the Jennifer the Jamacho U 2122 01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:20.319 asked me to talk about. Yeah, that equals in simple 2123 01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:24.560 of Venus Horus Mason's square tower. 2124 01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:25.439 The fool. 2125 01:45:26.520 --> 01:45:30.760 My phone number is five five five four eight two seven. Now, 2126 01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:32.279 I mean I just kind of took out the five 2127 01:45:32.319 --> 01:45:34.359 to five. No, I'm sorry, four eight two three. I 2128 01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:36.680 took out the five five five because it's like on everything, 2129 01:45:37.279 --> 01:45:40.000 and the last four would equal seventeen. You can add 2130 01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:45.920 to eight again, damn. And he lives in Lion the States, 2131 01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:49.279 and then simple that equals twin and Lion and Hebrew 2132 01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:50.039 equals Russian. 2133 01:45:52.079 --> 01:45:54.279 Well there the twin pillars, don't you think? 2134 01:45:54.880 --> 01:45:57.279 Yeah, they were back to the duality here too, right, 2135 01:45:57.439 --> 01:46:00.199 we got the different versions of the mall during from 2136 01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:04.399 times right with this, like you're saying, Julia with the 2137 01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:07.479 with the nine to eleven predicted programming aspects to you, 2138 01:46:07.720 --> 01:46:09.720 you also have the single tower now too, right. 2139 01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:12.239 Well, I was going to say I think this would 2140 01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:15.159 be a good time if if you could JJ to 2141 01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:19.800 play my clip. If not, I can. He texted to 2142 01:46:19.960 --> 01:46:22.399 Nick and see if he can get it pulled up 2143 01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:24.319 on his But I did email it to you. 2144 01:46:25.039 --> 01:46:28.479 Well, well let's uh, you know, I I'll work on 2145 01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:31.720 that here. Let's let's start talking about some of your 2146 01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:33.359 thoughts are on the mall. Well, I get that clip 2147 01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:34.119 up here for us. 2148 01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:37.760 Please, I mean the twin twin turns to the loan 2149 01:46:37.880 --> 01:46:39.319 because he's finished the journey. 2150 01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:42.199 He's not he's coming out, he's not going in. So 2151 01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:46.000 it's completion type. Is it one? 2152 01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:48.520 Thirty four? Am eight as well? 2153 01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:51.359 It's all eight mm hm, there you go. 2154 01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:54.520 But you never reduced You should really never reduce a 2155 01:46:54.600 --> 01:46:57.319 prime number. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's not. It's 2156 01:46:57.359 --> 01:46:59.039 not like that. I think you're you're right. It's eight, 2157 01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:02.680 but it's it's all. It should be seventeen. But Heidi's right, 2158 01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:05.479 because it is it's showing a different path on the tree, 2159 01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:08.399 so it's the one plus the thirty four. Thirty four 2160 01:47:08.479 --> 01:47:11.680 is the number of apotheosis. So you've gone through the 2161 01:47:11.720 --> 01:47:15.239 whole tree and then you've exactly like Heidi set, you've 2162 01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:19.479 come back into the kingdom. But the twin pines mall 2163 01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:23.399 you've split off. You are the hero on the dragon, 2164 01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:27.039 you are the beast and the hero both and then 2165 01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:29.399 you've just gone up straight to Tifferi. So you have 2166 01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:32.680 to the son, which is again to your point about 2167 01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:35.239 the lions, Julia, like, that's what the symbol is. Leo 2168 01:47:35.479 --> 01:47:38.960 is the son, so that's why you see that there. 2169 01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:41.199 So it's like, that's also the beast. That's why it's 2170 01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:42.840 a noble animal, but it's. 2171 01:47:42.800 --> 01:47:45.880 Also a beast and also the son. 2172 01:47:46.119 --> 01:47:48.640 It is the son doing the journey for the father 2173 01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:51.479 because he takes his place and kicks him out of 2174 01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:55.319 his place where he should be because he's the one 2175 01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:59.079 that gets hit by the car. So therefore, once again, can. 2176 01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:03.640 We just say the fact that George McFly was a 2177 01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:05.039 peeping creep in. 2178 01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:13.279 To weird, so weird, I have a sexual sext magic. Again, 2179 01:48:13.439 --> 01:48:14.119 you're getting. 2180 01:48:15.520 --> 01:48:19.399 That's all that gets super creepy, really circumcidering all those aspects. 2181 01:48:19.439 --> 01:48:20.359 It is dark. 2182 01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:24.239 So you're saying there's some sex magic aspects numerology of that, 2183 01:48:25.159 --> 01:48:25.560 there's some. 2184 01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:29.560 Like actual like outward ones at the end too. 2185 01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:32.920 And with George McFly, I I dare say when we 2186 01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:34.880 get to him, it'll make a lot more sense. I'm 2187 01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:36.760 gonna hold onto it so I don't mess you guys 2188 01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:38.119 up because we're going to play the clip. 2189 01:48:38.199 --> 01:48:40.399 And I don't know if Nick said this, but maybe 2190 01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:41.479 he is the fool. 2191 01:48:43.279 --> 01:48:44.720 We're gonna have to take a moment on that clip 2192 01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:46.479 because I couldn't quite download, but I didn't forward. 2193 01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:50.720 He can handle it. My connections to the moment and 2194 01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:51.640 the file was too big. 2195 01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:54.079 Can I text? 2196 01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:56.439 I got it right now? 2197 01:48:57.399 --> 01:48:59.920 Oh perfect? If you can, if you'll, if you're able 2198 01:48:59.920 --> 01:49:05.520 to a play, that would be super helpful. It wouldn't 2199 01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:08.239 it wouldn't. Let me share it all on my end. 2200 01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:12.520 I can say one thing, why we're going and talking 2201 01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:16.840 about this about George. If you guys want so, I truly. 2202 01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:19.560 Believe done with everything von Braun here is ever telling me? 2203 01:49:20.479 --> 01:49:22.279 Well, yeah, yeah, I. 2204 01:49:22.359 --> 01:49:26.359 Think okay, the whole thing, that's just the whole the 2205 01:49:26.439 --> 01:49:29.760 whole film is you can consider like a von Braun Parson. 2206 01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:32.960 Yeah, I think so, yeah, I think so. 2207 01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:36.439 Even this image that you pulled up, it's call a 2208 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:39.880 sick exactly like what Nick said, Most people don't pick 2209 01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:42.760 up the purple density I've been on. Most people don't. 2210 01:49:42.840 --> 01:49:45.880 They'll associate black like deep black, but there's actually a 2211 01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:47.720 flashing blue and a purple there. 2212 01:49:48.439 --> 01:49:51.479 Purple purple is basically saturn. 2213 01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:55.760 That's right, that's a right when nix that, like, that's 2214 01:49:55.840 --> 01:49:58.680 like that's more deep knowledge, Like most people wouldn't say that, 2215 01:49:58.880 --> 01:50:02.479 they would say black whatever. So that's what I mean 2216 01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:06.119 going like a little more. You'd have to have a 2217 01:50:06.159 --> 01:50:11.319 little more magic knowledge maybe to like pick that specific 2218 01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:14.159 thing rather than just pick Like if you're picking from 2219 01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:16.199 a book, you're going to pick black because that's what 2220 01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:19.319 the books would tell you. But if you're picking from experience, 2221 01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:24.359 you'd pick purple with the flashing gold and the lightning 2222 01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:26.439 in between, because that's like the luminosity. 2223 01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:30.840 Do you think that it's significant The mayor's name is 2224 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:39.119 Goldie whatever whatever, Goldie Wilson Wilson, Yeah, Goldie Wilson. Like 2225 01:50:39.319 --> 01:50:42.840 because you mentioned the J. C. Penny and like the 2226 01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:46.439 other stuff and then like the mayor's name is Goldie. 2227 01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:48.640 That's interesting. 2228 01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:53.159 Could be also inspired by Marty because Marty says, oh, 2229 01:50:53.239 --> 01:50:56.720 you should run for mayor, So it's like he impacted 2230 01:50:56.840 --> 01:50:58.039 that outcome as well. 2231 01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:02.319 His he had a very tost Gump experience. You know 2232 01:51:02.960 --> 01:51:05.560 before zamkas Is Forest Gump. I mean, Marty McFly did 2233 01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:12.680 a lot lot of fun. Yeah, we're saying, Jen apologize, 2234 01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:13.239 I stepped on it. 2235 01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:15.239 Oh no, no, that's okay. I just think that that 2236 01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:18.960 was a really interesting point Julia made, like about the mayor, 2237 01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:21.199 and then Nick said, like a bunch of amazing points 2238 01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:24.920 about the mayor's name, like the double keys. That's very 2239 01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:27.479 Saint Peter, Like we're talking about a braxis. Part of 2240 01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:31.000 his sigil is a key. Saint Peter holds the double keys, 2241 01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:33.199 but there was actually more than two keys to get 2242 01:51:33.239 --> 01:51:35.399 into the gate of habit in a more esoteric greeting. 2243 01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:39.960 So that's really interesting, right, And so yeah, maybe he's 2244 01:51:40.039 --> 01:51:42.840 like the he's the grand master of the town. He's 2245 01:51:42.880 --> 01:51:45.840 like the grand master mason of their little lodge in 2246 01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:48.880 the middle of wherever they are. So that's what I 2247 01:51:48.920 --> 01:51:51.720 would see him as. He's the tifferatic in nature. He's 2248 01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:54.760 a thirty three even has like his one of his 2249 01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:57.520 billboards had magic numbers. I don't remember what it was. 2250 01:51:57.600 --> 01:52:01.239 I'm sure Nick wrote it in his notes, but I 2251 01:52:01.439 --> 01:52:04.000 just I that's like immediately what I thought, Like Goldie 2252 01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:08.199 Wilson tifferatic, like, Okay, he's going to be the boss, 2253 01:52:08.359 --> 01:52:10.680 but he was projected outwards so that it was like 2254 01:52:10.720 --> 01:52:13.239 a very I consider this film like very plus ultra, 2255 01:52:13.359 --> 01:52:16.560 like it's very like magicians wrote it. Magicians kind of 2256 01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:22.279 inserted their little you know, little like little tricks and 2257 01:52:22.439 --> 01:52:24.960 interesting little points to the East Eggs as I do 2258 01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:26.720 you call them. That's a perfect way to describe it. 2259 01:52:27.239 --> 01:52:30.159 So they inserted it in and they're like, oh, how deep? 2260 01:52:30.279 --> 01:52:33.880 How many layers can you go? Because interestingly, this is 2261 01:52:33.960 --> 01:52:38.359 considered a perfect film, like there's no technical errors. The 2262 01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:43.000 editing is considered like really really good, right, So it's 2263 01:52:43.039 --> 01:52:47.800 a perfect Herman nutic to carry the magicians East Eggs 2264 01:52:48.079 --> 01:52:53.640 Seeds forward into the future, because what travels through space 2265 01:52:53.720 --> 01:52:56.600 and time but flashing light and moving images? 2266 01:52:59.640 --> 01:53:01.840 Yeah, for sure, I got I finally got your video 2267 01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:04.359 cueued up here, Julia. I was able to finally download 2268 01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:05.840 it here. My connection got better. 2269 01:53:06.119 --> 01:53:08.600 But I just coarting it. I couldn't get it. 2270 01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:13.000 No, I don't. 2271 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:14.319 I couldn't get I got not have to share it 2272 01:53:14.359 --> 01:53:15.239 from a different app. 2273 01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:18.600 But do we have any more commentary here on some 2274 01:53:18.720 --> 01:53:21.880 of the this George mc flaud Before we jump into that. 2275 01:53:22.079 --> 01:53:23.000 Oh George. 2276 01:53:23.119 --> 01:53:25.239 Yeah, I have lots on George, but I can wait 2277 01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:29.239 until you know it's we got them up right now. Okay, 2278 01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:33.479 I just think that George, there's a couple of things 2279 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:36.960 that were Easter eggs that I found, and that's that. 2280 01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:40.479 He he mentioned that he was a left handed person, 2281 01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:44.640 but he's writing right handed for some most of it. 2282 01:53:44.720 --> 01:53:46.600 And they used to push this on people because it 2283 01:53:46.760 --> 01:53:50.359 was very seen as negative. And I dare say this 2284 01:53:50.520 --> 01:53:54.239 whole thing is about how George's life is going to 2285 01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:57.880 be changed if he continues on right hand path or 2286 01:53:57.960 --> 01:54:00.399 the left hand path right, and they're forcing him to 2287 01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:02.720 be on the right hand path, but we don't really. 2288 01:54:02.640 --> 01:54:05.399 Know if that's what he would decide. 2289 01:54:06.159 --> 01:54:11.560 And so we also have his name means earthworker or farmer, 2290 01:54:11.720 --> 01:54:14.960 and or it means works with the dirt, which we 2291 01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:17.880 get back to Adam. Adam means ready we get into 2292 01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:22.439 the whole Adam, you know Mason type stuff there when 2293 01:54:22.479 --> 01:54:27.359 we're talking about creation. So where George is concerned, I 2294 01:54:27.479 --> 01:54:31.239 think it's pretty interesting that eventually, when he's had enough 2295 01:54:31.319 --> 01:54:36.600 of enough and he punches the guy, he does it 2296 01:54:36.800 --> 01:54:40.960 with his left hand, even though he's been using his 2297 01:54:41.199 --> 01:54:42.039 right hand. 2298 01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:47.760 The whole time, and so it's yeah, and then what 2299 01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:49.359 happens is he goes home. 2300 01:54:49.680 --> 01:54:53.439 And also we have to remember the lightning path is 2301 01:54:53.680 --> 01:54:56.079 a direct ascension and it's fast and it works, but 2302 01:54:56.199 --> 01:55:00.640 also it's not always the best way. It's very magical. 2303 01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:04.920 It's very left hand path to choose lightning, and you 2304 01:55:05.079 --> 01:55:07.840 go back and his life is completely not hard anymore. 2305 01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:11.640 He's got all the comforts which would be very Luciferian, 2306 01:55:11.800 --> 01:55:15.479 very left hand pathy, like, okay, you know, it's much 2307 01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:18.479 better now. Now he's bossing people around. Now he's the 2308 01:55:18.600 --> 01:55:22.920 boss of his own universe, and he's chosen that one 2309 01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:26.479 thing changed everything for George, that punch. 2310 01:55:26.520 --> 01:55:30.319 Sure, so I can go on left handed path. 2311 01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:32.720 Hum, that's how I felt about it. 2312 01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:38.359 Interesting, that was an incredible point. I have to say, like, honestly, 2313 01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:41.319 I didn't touch on it all, but it's like sounds 2314 01:55:41.359 --> 01:55:44.079 so obvious when Heidi's singing, and I'm like, oh fuck, 2315 01:55:44.159 --> 01:55:46.199 why did I Why did I. 2316 01:55:46.279 --> 01:55:49.279 Had help with the punch? But the thoughts were mine 2317 01:55:49.319 --> 01:55:49.800 on the rest. 2318 01:55:51.239 --> 01:55:52.920 I think the folks of the chat and the interwews 2319 01:55:52.960 --> 01:55:54.680 you agree with you. How that's an excellent point. 2320 01:55:55.600 --> 01:55:58.800 Thank you, thank you. I think that that's all, you know. 2321 01:55:58.960 --> 01:56:01.920 And so when we think about Marty, why is he 2322 01:56:02.079 --> 01:56:05.760 the one going through this path right because he took 2323 01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:09.239 the Dad's place. We're back to isis what happens with 2324 01:56:09.439 --> 01:56:13.239 Horace is the son is the father, and the father 2325 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:13.800 is the son. 2326 01:56:13.880 --> 01:56:15.840 The son is the recreation of the father. 2327 01:56:16.039 --> 01:56:18.760 So he takes over the journey to fix it for 2328 01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:21.479 him because he's too much of a goofball really to 2329 01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:24.039 do this right, Like he's just not doing it correctly. 2330 01:56:24.399 --> 01:56:26.520 So the son is fixing it all the way. 2331 01:56:26.920 --> 01:56:29.560 And then he ultimately gets the choice with the hit 2332 01:56:30.279 --> 01:56:33.880 and he chooses which way he goes there, and then 2333 01:56:33.960 --> 01:56:35.960 his whole life is completely changed after that. 2334 01:56:36.960 --> 01:56:41.239 So that's fascinating when to look at that, and he's 2335 01:56:41.319 --> 01:56:44.560 able to reconcile sort of the changes in his life. 2336 01:56:44.720 --> 01:56:48.239 So he's like the true hermetic character of the movie. 2337 01:56:49.159 --> 01:56:52.000 Yes, and they're one and the same because you know, 2338 01:56:52.319 --> 01:56:54.479 the son is the father for a brief time until 2339 01:56:54.560 --> 01:56:59.600 he returns to reality, which is why it's not reality 2340 01:56:59.720 --> 01:57:02.800 because because it's you know, he's fixing past. 2341 01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:06.680 So what's the show on what's the show on the 2342 01:57:06.720 --> 01:57:09.119 background here? It's a good question from Dolan Ferguson. It's 2343 01:57:09.399 --> 01:57:11.800 it's Ralph Cramton, right and the honeymooner's right. 2344 01:57:12.479 --> 01:57:12.640 Is it? 2345 01:57:12.920 --> 01:57:13.760 I can't e would tell. 2346 01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:17.399 Doesn't Ralph always want to send his wife to the moon? 2347 01:57:17.800 --> 01:57:18.000 Yeah? 2348 01:57:18.920 --> 01:57:21.239 Oh I think so. Yeah, Yeah, he's. 2349 01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:23.239 Always send his wife to the moon. I mean it's 2350 01:57:23.239 --> 01:57:25.640 a little domestic violence, but I mean he's always trying 2351 01:57:25.640 --> 01:57:30.520 to send his wife to the moon by hitting her, right. 2352 01:57:32.159 --> 01:57:35.479 Heid he said a really great plan about how like, yeah, 2353 01:57:35.560 --> 01:57:38.319 he's recifying the past. She didn't use that exact phrase, 2354 01:57:38.399 --> 01:57:40.399 but it does exactly what she I mean, we're all 2355 01:57:40.439 --> 01:57:42.479 speaking the same language, that's what she's talking about. You 2356 01:57:43.159 --> 01:57:46.680 bring both hands into synthesis. You're fixing the sins of 2357 01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:50.119 the father. Yes, it is in the dream of the magician, 2358 01:57:50.279 --> 01:57:53.239 dream of the you know, person traveling. We're saying Marty, 2359 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:56.479 So it's like in his dream. But for the even 2360 01:57:56.560 --> 01:57:59.479 in that dream, he is the he is those people. 2361 01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:01.960 That's starchromatically correct. That sounds weird. 2362 01:58:02.479 --> 01:58:05.760 I'm sorry, No, that's a good No, I'm appreciate. That's 2363 01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:07.600 a good point there. I just want to one cavet 2364 01:58:07.640 --> 01:58:08.039 on the show. 2365 01:58:08.119 --> 01:58:08.840 So that was the show. 2366 01:58:09.279 --> 01:58:11.159 Later when he goes back in nineteen fifty five, the 2367 01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:13.600 one there with George McFly. We see in the background 2368 01:58:13.680 --> 01:58:17.760 him watching nineteen eighty five is Science Fiction Theater, which 2369 01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:19.800 was a show from nineteen fifty five. It was his 2370 01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:22.279 favorite show apparently as a child or whatever they're you know, 2371 01:58:22.399 --> 01:58:24.359 as a teenager. So it's a little you know, it's 2372 01:58:24.359 --> 01:58:26.520 a little interesting, right, little the show in the background 2373 01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:28.039 is Science Fiction Theater. 2374 01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:30.840 And then again they're doing some you know that more 2375 01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:31.880 space stuff, right, more. 2376 01:58:31.800 --> 01:58:35.039 Space space yep, not that more many though. 2377 01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:40.079 No, Masony Mason's and a cold tea today. 2378 01:58:43.439 --> 01:58:46.359 So do we have anything else here on mister McFly 2379 01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:48.399 and before we kind of go over some of the 2380 01:58:48.560 --> 01:58:51.520 esoteric aspects and the cold aspects of the journey that 2381 01:58:52.079 --> 01:58:52.720 they go on here. 2382 01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:56.640 No, But I have a funny little piece because you know, 2383 01:58:56.720 --> 01:58:59.199 I love JFK so much when he goes back to 2384 01:58:59.279 --> 01:59:02.159 the Ronald reg thing, he and he blows Doc's mind 2385 01:59:02.199 --> 01:59:04.479 and he's like, well, who's the president then? And he's 2386 01:59:04.560 --> 01:59:08.319 like Ronald Reagan and he and he says, why you 2387 01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:10.640 have got an actor? Like does he need to look 2388 01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:13.600 good on TV? That's a hat tip to JFK because 2389 01:59:13.680 --> 01:59:17.239 JFK once time got on a speech. Yeah, and he 2390 01:59:17.439 --> 01:59:19.479 was like, I'm just gonna win because I look good. 2391 01:59:20.680 --> 01:59:22.800 That's interesting because I have that clip right here, Roddy 2392 01:59:23.159 --> 01:59:24.520 doc you gotta believe. 2393 01:59:24.279 --> 01:59:29.239 Me, then tell me scuture boy, who's President of the 2394 01:59:29.359 --> 01:59:32.920 United States in nineteen eighty five, Ronald Reagan. 2395 01:59:33.279 --> 01:59:38.840 Ronald Reagan the actor's doc you gotta believe me, then 2396 01:59:39.000 --> 01:59:39.279 tell me. 2397 01:59:40.600 --> 01:59:41.159 I think that all. 2398 01:59:41.319 --> 01:59:43.720 I think that also ties into the Donald Trump aspects 2399 01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:46.000 that we see that introduced back to the future too, 2400 01:59:46.159 --> 01:59:48.319 and kind of that kind of predictive nature as I 2401 01:59:48.359 --> 01:59:50.319 was referring to, of where do these ideas come from? 2402 01:59:50.439 --> 01:59:53.520 But that is an interesting aspect of JFK toospective. 2403 01:59:53.640 --> 01:59:57.680 Did you notice when Marty gets to nineteen fifty five 2404 01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:01.039 and he's walking through Towns school where the movie that's 2405 02:00:01.119 --> 02:00:04.640 on it the movies is a Ronald Reagan No shit, 2406 02:00:05.640 --> 02:00:06.560 well I know what one it. 2407 02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:09.119 Is when they get yeah, yeah, yeah, it's up on 2408 02:00:09.239 --> 02:00:11.880 the Yeah. The first thing, Yeah, what what you just said? 2409 02:00:12.600 --> 02:00:12.760 Up on? 2410 02:00:12.800 --> 02:00:15.560 The movie zooms in on it. Yeah, it says Ronald 2411 02:00:15.600 --> 02:00:16.920 Reagan and it has. 2412 02:00:18.359 --> 02:00:18.920 That's awesome. 2413 02:00:20.000 --> 02:00:22.800 It's a meta movie. Before the meta movie, I never 2414 02:00:22.920 --> 02:00:25.279 really thought about it like that because this never really 2415 02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:27.600 gets considered to be like a meta film. The first 2416 02:00:27.960 --> 02:00:30.479 meta film was Thesis, which is a Spanish film from 2417 02:00:30.920 --> 02:00:33.880 like nineteen ninety five. So we're talking about like pretty 2418 02:00:34.039 --> 02:00:38.159 late like past this film. But this film really actually 2419 02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:41.239 has it all. It's really telling you. It's like everything's 2420 02:00:41.439 --> 02:00:44.920 not in a wink to the outside reality, to the 2421 02:00:44.960 --> 02:00:46.600 outside world. So it's very interesting. 2422 02:00:48.399 --> 02:00:52.119 Yeah, well, I totally agree, And uh, I think that's 2423 02:00:52.159 --> 02:00:54.479 a good point. It's good jumping off point for the 2424 02:00:54.600 --> 02:00:56.279 video that that Julian wants to share with this here, 2425 02:00:56.279 --> 02:00:58.840 which I've I've kind of keyed it down here. It's 2426 02:00:58.840 --> 02:01:01.159 the name of the video a Paul Julia, but I've 2427 02:01:01.199 --> 02:01:02.800 kind of keyed it down to these aspects of what 2428 02:01:02.880 --> 02:01:05.399 we're just talking about there and the twin pines, mall 2429 02:01:05.479 --> 02:01:07.079 the nine to eleven predicted programming. 2430 02:01:07.399 --> 02:01:08.359 I am familiar with this clip? 2431 02:01:08.479 --> 02:01:09.119 Is is this true? 2432 02:01:09.159 --> 02:01:09.760 Stream media? 2433 02:01:09.840 --> 02:01:09.960 Is that? 2434 02:01:10.039 --> 02:01:10.399 Who is that? 2435 02:01:10.399 --> 02:01:11.640 Who originated this this clip? 2436 02:01:12.399 --> 02:01:15.640 So Colby found it and he talked about it on 2437 02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:19.920 his podcast, which is where this clip is from. If 2438 02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:21.920 we can't play the whole thing, that's fine because I 2439 02:01:22.000 --> 02:01:25.880 can sum it all up however much we watch. If 2440 02:01:25.920 --> 02:01:27.960 we don't get the rest of it, I can sum 2441 02:01:28.039 --> 02:01:32.479 it up. But the video that is in this clip 2442 02:01:32.600 --> 02:01:36.159 is no longer available. It got removed. You can't find 2443 02:01:36.199 --> 02:01:40.479 it on YouTube, you can't find it anywhere. So that's 2444 02:01:40.560 --> 02:01:43.880 why I had to get the clip from his podcast episode, 2445 02:01:43.920 --> 02:01:46.600 because you can't even go find the actual clip itself. 2446 02:01:46.760 --> 02:01:49.399 So it's one of those things. 2447 02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:53.079 I think I've seen a long time ago. 2448 02:01:53.079 --> 02:01:53.439 I think it was. 2449 02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:54.640 I didn't realize it had been. 2450 02:01:54.760 --> 02:01:57.199 It had been memory hold with the way Houdini here 2451 02:01:57.239 --> 02:01:59.239 because that, yeah, I think that was true stream media. 2452 02:01:59.079 --> 02:01:59.439 That made that. 2453 02:02:00.439 --> 02:02:04.279 Yeah, they've removed it from everywhere interesting. 2454 02:02:06.479 --> 02:02:09.279 Yeah, No, I think there's some great points brought up 2455 02:02:09.279 --> 02:02:12.680 in here with even additional layering of this whole you know, 2456 02:02:12.840 --> 02:02:16.520 this whole nine to eleven twenty towers business, right, you 2457 02:02:16.600 --> 02:02:19.439 know again, it's a I don't know if I don't 2458 02:02:19.439 --> 02:02:20.960 know if that's the true stream media. The name, the 2459 02:02:21.760 --> 02:02:23.680 name of that one, well, I don't remember all these names, 2460 02:02:23.720 --> 02:02:26.000 too many names, but yeah, I have come across this clip. 2461 02:02:26.000 --> 02:02:27.680 But it is interesting the would memory hole it there, right, 2462 02:02:27.720 --> 02:02:31.640 because it's almost like it provides validity to the fact 2463 02:02:31.640 --> 02:02:33.199 that there's something way way deeper. 2464 02:02:32.960 --> 02:02:33.439 Going on here. 2465 02:02:33.520 --> 02:02:33.680 Huh. 2466 02:02:34.199 --> 02:02:38.920 Yeah, Yeah, do we have anything other commentary there before 2467 02:02:38.920 --> 02:02:41.159 we start the clip. I think you were gonna say something. 2468 02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:47.159 God, I think should already move with my notes. Uh, yeah, 2469 02:02:47.199 --> 02:02:49.039 there was something I was gonna say about George mcflight, 2470 02:02:49.079 --> 02:02:50.119 about the stuff that does. 2471 02:02:50.520 --> 02:02:50.720 Yeah. 2472 02:02:53.359 --> 02:02:57.520 Sorry, George mcflight again when you get I've already mentioned 2473 02:02:57.600 --> 02:03:01.079 dragon in keys his name equals three keys and wood dragon, 2474 02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:08.960 and George does equal magician, pineal, Rose and Saturnalia. Yeah, 2475 02:03:10.800 --> 02:03:16.239 Lorraine his mother and his Lorraine his mother's name equals Kronos. 2476 02:03:17.560 --> 02:03:19.800 And there's the what's you know, is there any reference 2477 02:03:19.800 --> 02:03:21.479 to the cross of the Lorraine with the name with 2478 02:03:21.600 --> 02:03:22.960 the use of the name Lorraine. 2479 02:03:23.800 --> 02:03:28.960 Yeah, yeah, because if if to go with what Heidi 2480 02:03:29.319 --> 02:03:32.680 had pointed out, like it's it can be also translated 2481 02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:35.720 as the Queen. So Lorraine is also a region in France, 2482 02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:39.079 so all of like people with that name that would 2483 02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:42.399 have originated in that region of France. So yeah, it's 2484 02:03:42.439 --> 02:03:46.680 like a very templar Rosicrucian, you know, very like it's 2485 02:03:46.720 --> 02:03:50.000 a very magician's nod to something like wing Wain, Like 2486 02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:50.880 look over here. 2487 02:03:53.319 --> 02:03:56.039 Well, and to your point, Nick put to the pineal 2488 02:03:56.640 --> 02:03:59.680 the twin pines, I mean, we've got pines, pine cones, 2489 02:04:00.359 --> 02:04:00.760 I neil. 2490 02:04:01.079 --> 02:04:04.199 Yeah, so that's all gonna be president. 2491 02:04:04.760 --> 02:04:04.920 Yeah. 2492 02:04:07.039 --> 02:04:09.960 Yeah, with the twin pines. That's very that's very much 2493 02:04:10.000 --> 02:04:11.520 a nod of that. Huh, with the pine cones. 2494 02:04:12.720 --> 02:04:17.479 I was gonna say that pine cone. 2495 02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:21.560 All right, Well on that day, we'll we'll uh, we'll 2496 02:04:21.560 --> 02:04:31.800 get started here on this journey on this video. Maybe 2497 02:04:33.840 --> 02:04:35.439 I gotta get some sound going for us here. 2498 02:04:37.359 --> 02:04:37.560 Yeah. 2499 02:04:43.079 --> 02:04:45.279 Oh, I don't think the sound is coming true. 2500 02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:50.479 Is the sound not coming through? 2501 02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:52.840 No? 2502 02:04:53.199 --> 02:04:59.479 Shoot, I was afraid of that. Well can you walk 2503 02:04:59.560 --> 02:05:03.439 through it with your analysis? Why we watched the visual Julia? 2504 02:05:03.600 --> 02:05:06.119 Yeah? Do you mind tell us what's going on here? 2505 02:05:09.640 --> 02:05:09.760 Oh? 2506 02:05:09.960 --> 02:05:10.439 She muted. 2507 02:05:11.119 --> 02:05:14.680 Sorry, I can definitely do that. If you back it 2508 02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:17.520 up to the beginning, we can speak through the whole 2509 02:05:17.640 --> 02:05:20.279 eight minute thing in like two seconds, because I can 2510 02:05:20.560 --> 02:05:26.239 break it down for you myself. But yeah, take it 2511 02:05:26.319 --> 02:05:28.960 all the way back and I'll tell you when to 2512 02:05:29.960 --> 02:05:33.279 fast forward it or whatever. So this guy is basically 2513 02:05:33.439 --> 02:05:38.239 talking about how Back to the Future is predicting the 2514 02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:45.439 nine to eleven terif attacks, and he starts with this 2515 02:05:45.640 --> 02:05:48.800 letter because in the background here, if you can see us, 2516 02:05:48.920 --> 02:05:51.640 he's writing this letter to Doc Brown, there's this there's 2517 02:05:51.680 --> 02:05:53.800 a sign in the back with the big nine on it, 2518 02:05:54.920 --> 02:05:56.640 and it's just that same intersection. 2519 02:05:56.319 --> 02:05:58.199 With the was that an eight? Was that that eight? 2520 02:05:58.239 --> 02:06:00.680 And three? The same one we saw the four next bloods. 2521 02:06:01.640 --> 02:06:03.079 I thought I was the ship, putting the ship in 2522 02:06:03.159 --> 02:06:03.520 my nose. 2523 02:06:04.960 --> 02:06:09.479 Well, this right here he's saying like twin pines and 2524 02:06:10.159 --> 02:06:15.159 actually the the terrorist attack with the twin pines, and 2525 02:06:15.520 --> 02:06:19.600 if you flip the time upside down, it's nine to eleven. 2526 02:06:21.039 --> 02:06:26.039 And so we got nine eleven at Twin Pines Mall 2527 02:06:27.399 --> 02:06:32.239 with the terrorist attack, and then the pines are representing 2528 02:06:32.279 --> 02:06:35.960 the towers whatever. And then at the end of the 2529 02:06:36.399 --> 02:06:42.520 movie it's lone Pine representing the single what do they 2530 02:06:42.600 --> 02:06:45.560 call it, the One World Tower. 2531 02:06:46.760 --> 02:06:50.439 Whatever it is, Yeah, trade Center. 2532 02:06:51.239 --> 02:06:55.560 And then again Doc Brown on his clock, he sends 2533 02:06:55.640 --> 02:07:00.199 ay into the future at one nineteen. That's another nine 2534 02:07:00.239 --> 02:07:03.000 to eleven. But in the second back to the future, 2535 02:07:03.199 --> 02:07:06.199 they got the twin Pines on the TV and they 2536 02:07:06.359 --> 02:07:12.199 changed the channel and it immediately becomes a visual of 2537 02:07:12.439 --> 02:07:17.560 the twin Towers right there. Yeah, so it's like there 2538 02:07:19.159 --> 02:07:21.279 tin pines just like in the first one. Then it 2539 02:07:21.359 --> 02:07:23.279 goes to the twin towers. This is supposed to be 2540 02:07:23.359 --> 02:07:30.159 in twenty fifteen, right into the future, and the he's 2541 02:07:30.199 --> 02:07:33.279 shown the nine to eleven thing again, the terrorist. 2542 02:07:32.960 --> 02:07:34.840 Attacks the Libyans. 2543 02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:39.039 Uh huh, and he talks about how this guy right here, 2544 02:07:39.119 --> 02:07:42.960 I think it's George McFly. He's hanging upside down right oh, 2545 02:07:43.119 --> 02:07:46.560 in the Statue of Liberty Torch, which also is like 2546 02:07:46.640 --> 02:07:52.319 the New York reference with the twin towers there. But uh, 2547 02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:56.000 is it George McFly in the second one that's hanging 2548 02:07:56.119 --> 02:07:57.199 upside down in this scene? 2549 02:07:57.239 --> 02:08:00.520 I can't remember, or is it market it's George, but 2550 02:08:00.560 --> 02:08:01.520 it's not Crispin Glover. 2551 02:08:01.680 --> 02:08:04.159 It is George the character Georgeman flaw right. 2552 02:08:04.800 --> 02:08:08.479 So if you look at it from his perspective, basically 2553 02:08:08.680 --> 02:08:12.600 with him hanging upside down, he'll flip it and it'll 2554 02:08:12.720 --> 02:08:16.920 show like this is a projection of the towers falling 2555 02:08:17.720 --> 02:08:19.479 in back to the future too. 2556 02:08:22.399 --> 02:08:25.680 But if you act Terio hangman, is that what you said? 2557 02:08:26.159 --> 02:08:27.439 M h it's very. 2558 02:08:29.479 --> 02:08:31.680 But if you speed it up just a little bit, 2559 02:08:32.000 --> 02:08:36.479 because we already talked about this part, it's doing towers 2560 02:08:36.560 --> 02:08:39.600 Da Da DA nine to eleven hanging upside down. 2561 02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:42.079 We talked about all you know, the Libyans where the 2562 02:08:42.159 --> 02:08:46.760 Pharaohs like military. I did not know that, yes, yeah, yeah, 2563 02:08:47.039 --> 02:08:49.119 And and in this uh, this bit, I just all 2564 02:08:49.239 --> 02:08:51.399 since you know, waiting for it fast forward, they do 2565 02:08:51.680 --> 02:08:54.119 they do, they do specify it's in AK forty seven 2566 02:08:54.199 --> 02:08:57.039 and they said damn Russian guns or some shit like that, 2567 02:08:57.800 --> 02:08:59.800 because I do have tons of stuff from points to Russia. 2568 02:08:59.840 --> 02:09:02.720 So I'm even trying to show that with this part too. 2569 02:09:04.399 --> 02:09:07.760 So in this part he's talking about how it says 2570 02:09:08.039 --> 02:09:15.800 tower strike on the newspaper, tower struck, like twin towers, 2571 02:09:15.960 --> 02:09:19.840 tower struck, and how in this scene it cuts it off, 2572 02:09:19.920 --> 02:09:24.520 but it goes nine eleven with the fire nine one one, 2573 02:09:25.840 --> 02:09:28.600 and then in the background is the all seeing eye, 2574 02:09:30.119 --> 02:09:34.520 that is that is looking at them. And so Robert Zemeckis, 2575 02:09:36.039 --> 02:09:38.199 this is the date when they go back into the future, right, 2576 02:09:38.279 --> 02:09:44.960 October twenty for twenty fifteen. So Robert Zemeckis would later 2577 02:09:45.119 --> 02:09:50.720 go on to direct a film called The Wire October 2578 02:09:51.279 --> 02:09:55.720 twenty first, twenty fifteen, about a guy stringing a wire 2579 02:09:56.560 --> 02:10:00.800 between the twin towers and walking across it. So he's 2580 02:10:00.960 --> 02:10:05.319 literally referencing the date of the movie he's going to 2581 02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:08.359 make in twenty fifteen, So from nineteen eighty five Back 2582 02:10:08.399 --> 02:10:10.439 to the Future twenty fifteen when he comes out with 2583 02:10:10.560 --> 02:10:13.359 the Wire on the day that he put in Back 2584 02:10:13.399 --> 02:10:16.920 to the Future, Too, is another movie about the World 2585 02:10:17.000 --> 02:10:18.760 Trade Center, which. 2586 02:10:18.640 --> 02:10:21.199 Is wild because they made a documentary when the dude 2587 02:10:21.239 --> 02:10:23.000 did that at the time, in the late seventies, right 2588 02:10:23.039 --> 02:10:25.800 after they built the trade centers, he made a documentary 2589 02:10:25.800 --> 02:10:28.199 about it, I believe, right, And so like. 2590 02:10:28.359 --> 02:10:31.199 In Back to the Future, they're like, what's with the wire? 2591 02:10:31.359 --> 02:10:34.000 What's with the wire? Talking about the wire from the 2592 02:10:34.119 --> 02:10:38.359 clock tower to the Dolorean, and then Roberts Mechis goes 2593 02:10:38.399 --> 02:10:41.439 on to make a movie called The Wire about a 2594 02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:44.920 guy string and a wire between the twin towers and 2595 02:10:45.039 --> 02:10:49.439 walking across it right the Walk. Yeah, it's called And 2596 02:10:49.880 --> 02:10:54.720 the craziest part about it is actually the way that 2597 02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:59.800 he dresses the character in the Walk is the last 2598 02:11:00.119 --> 02:11:04.000 outfit Marty McFly has on right here, it'll show it. Yeah, 2599 02:11:04.560 --> 02:11:07.640 So Marty McFly has on the black leather jacket, the 2600 02:11:07.840 --> 02:11:10.560 red shirt, and I don't know, I guess like some 2601 02:11:10.720 --> 02:11:15.479 kind of blue jeans or something. Literally, that's the exact 2602 02:11:15.600 --> 02:11:19.199 outfit that he puts on the guy in the Walk 2603 02:11:19.600 --> 02:11:20.159 Twin Times. 2604 02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:23.239 Gordon levitt Man, that's jg L. What are you talking about? 2605 02:11:23.640 --> 02:11:26.680 I never I never really liked him after ten Things 2606 02:11:26.720 --> 02:11:27.399 I Hate about You. 2607 02:11:28.359 --> 02:11:31.560 He's definitely ancient alien cargo cult. You know, heard rock 2608 02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:33.920 from Son he plays in the Batman films. 2609 02:11:34.880 --> 02:11:37.560 But yeah, so, I mean, it's it's literally kind of 2610 02:11:37.720 --> 02:11:42.880 like this weird Twin Towers pictive programming thing between the 2611 02:11:43.039 --> 02:11:45.399 first two Back to the Future movies and then a 2612 02:11:45.520 --> 02:11:50.000 movie he literally directed exactly thirty years later to the 2613 02:11:50.159 --> 02:11:53.199 date and Back to the Future too. October twenty first, 2614 02:11:53.279 --> 02:11:57.000 twenty fifteen, he releases another movie about the Twin Towers. 2615 02:11:58.000 --> 02:11:59.960 So, I mean, it's just wild. 2616 02:12:00.119 --> 02:12:03.880 You wonder how much of this is purposeful? 2617 02:12:04.720 --> 02:12:04.880 You know? 2618 02:12:06.159 --> 02:12:08.000 And it also kind of makes me wonder where does 2619 02:12:08.159 --> 02:12:10.119 where does ideas come from? And how does time work? 2620 02:12:10.199 --> 02:12:12.560 Because how does that get plan to do all those things? 2621 02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:15.800 Like how did he know in nineteen eighty five to 2622 02:12:15.920 --> 02:12:19.239 talk about October twenty first, twenty fifteen about a movie 2623 02:12:19.319 --> 02:12:21.279 he hadn't even made yet, And. 2624 02:12:21.359 --> 02:12:23.279 How does he know that some looney tune French fella 2625 02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:25.079 is going to go to a trapeez act on top 2626 02:12:25.119 --> 02:12:26.680 of the Twin Towers Back in seventy eight. 2627 02:12:26.720 --> 02:12:28.319 You know what I mean, you can't plain these things. 2628 02:12:28.359 --> 02:12:35.039 I feel like, well maybe he can. Maybe that's an interesting. 2629 02:12:34.720 --> 02:12:36.880 Way to I'm open to it. I'm open to it. 2630 02:12:37.680 --> 02:12:41.960 Maybe how that news he's got a doc brown of his. 2631 02:12:42.039 --> 02:12:45.119 Own somewhere, right, Maybe that's what it is, because like 2632 02:12:45.199 --> 02:12:48.079 one of the masteries of time is the knowledge of 2633 02:12:48.159 --> 02:12:53.640 your own astrological chart, so that that's demarcations of time 2634 02:12:53.800 --> 02:12:58.359 in space, right, like very practical demarcations of time and space. 2635 02:12:58.760 --> 02:13:02.000 So someone but there's also the idea of the magician 2636 02:13:02.079 --> 02:13:04.760 who's going to like plan in the future like every 2637 02:13:04.960 --> 02:13:08.880 what we call chrono poetic where we put like the seed, 2638 02:13:11.119 --> 02:13:13.520 like he plans the seed in the film, and then 2639 02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:16.399 he's like, I'm going to see this work to completion 2640 02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:19.000 because like I've never even heard of that movie with 2641 02:13:19.319 --> 02:13:21.600 like Gordon love It or whatever his name is, Like 2642 02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:23.560 I've never heard of it. I've never seen it, and 2643 02:13:23.640 --> 02:13:26.319 I'm I like a lot of Kenos. So I'm not 2644 02:13:26.399 --> 02:13:28.000 saying that I know all the films, so I'm just 2645 02:13:28.079 --> 02:13:32.199 saying that it's like it seems very forgettable. So I'm 2646 02:13:32.319 --> 02:13:36.000 saying that, yeah, maybe he manifested it, but like what 2647 02:13:36.319 --> 02:13:39.439 was it's just like some film about the why, right, 2648 02:13:39.600 --> 02:13:41.880 Like he can, he can do the great work, but 2649 02:13:42.119 --> 02:13:45.399 what is he really like bringing forth into reality. 2650 02:13:45.760 --> 02:13:48.760 When we're talking about von Braun in space and all 2651 02:13:48.840 --> 02:13:50.560 that too, and time travel. 2652 02:13:50.720 --> 02:13:53.000 I mean, I'm just saying, like that gets weird. 2653 02:13:53.119 --> 02:13:55.760 I'm glad you said. I'm glad you said manifesting also 2654 02:13:55.840 --> 02:13:57.479 on top of the von Braun stuff, which I think 2655 02:13:57.520 --> 02:13:59.239 is just very fascinating. That is, you know that this 2656 02:13:59.319 --> 02:14:02.119 is all invited with again the whole Parsons relationship, right, 2657 02:14:02.199 --> 02:14:05.720 but with regard to the reality. And Simon went, not like, 2658 02:14:05.920 --> 02:14:07.880 well where are these ideas coming from? You know, is 2659 02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:10.920 somebody are they? Are they manifesting some of these ideas. 2660 02:14:10.680 --> 02:14:13.680 Through some sort of you know, external sources communicating these 2661 02:14:13.760 --> 02:14:16.720 soon you know, a plan or even the ideas generally 2662 02:14:18.119 --> 02:14:19.039 through these rituals. 2663 02:14:19.319 --> 02:14:22.199 The space stick right as we call it, the space 2664 02:14:22.239 --> 02:14:27.560 stick right right, it's very like me and like exactly 2665 02:14:27.760 --> 02:14:30.039 like what Heidi's been saying the whole time. It's like 2666 02:14:30.119 --> 02:14:33.359 it's a sleeping God and he has to be erect 2667 02:14:33.680 --> 02:14:37.880 to travel through space. So the rocket is like the 2668 02:14:38.079 --> 02:14:43.000 perfect vehicle, very heck a lot right to travel through 2669 02:14:43.119 --> 02:14:47.079 space and to penetrate your mother because the sepherer actually 2670 02:14:47.119 --> 02:14:50.680 are feminine in quality. It's kind of an interesting way 2671 02:14:50.720 --> 02:14:53.800 to think about it too. It's like exactly what Marty 2672 02:14:53.960 --> 02:14:56.600 is doing in the whole film. It's like, is he 2673 02:14:56.800 --> 02:14:59.920 going to because it comes pretty close. It's like gets 2674 02:15:00.319 --> 02:15:08.039 very weird. Jen I liked on that one. So do 2675 02:15:08.159 --> 02:15:10.720 we have any any notes here on this the odometer 2676 02:15:10.840 --> 02:15:12.359 run there? Because it all seems to be rooted in 2677 02:15:12.359 --> 02:15:12.960 the eights again? 2678 02:15:13.039 --> 02:15:17.159 Huh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh you have it up 2679 02:15:17.199 --> 02:15:20.600 on the screen. I'm sorry it was the notes, Yeah, yeah. 2680 02:15:20.640 --> 02:15:23.319 I thought that was interesting, like when when they're uh 2681 02:15:23.399 --> 02:15:26.680 because we were talking about like the male and the Libyans, 2682 02:15:27.520 --> 02:15:29.520 it made me think about the odometer when he went 2683 02:15:29.640 --> 02:15:32.039 to go jump and he you know, did you again 2684 02:15:32.079 --> 02:15:33.720 you have the eight on there? You have thirty three 2685 02:15:33.800 --> 02:15:36.840 oh six. I do find it interesting if you leave 2686 02:15:36.880 --> 02:15:41.640 it up, though, it does change as he's driving somehow 2687 02:15:41.680 --> 02:15:45.439 it goes backwards the bottom's ninth. 2688 02:15:45.479 --> 02:15:49.800 Interesting and then what do you mean, well, the mileage 2689 02:15:49.840 --> 02:15:55.359 goes backwards? Huh yeah, wow, is. 2690 02:15:55.359 --> 02:15:58.159 That even at the time travel? I don't know, thirty 2691 02:15:58.199 --> 02:15:59.640 three and then it goes back to thirty three oh 2692 02:15:59.760 --> 02:16:01.800 six and you can see the two seven right there also, 2693 02:16:01.960 --> 02:16:03.039 and then this is zero eight. 2694 02:16:04.760 --> 02:16:06.079 Is this after or before? 2695 02:16:06.479 --> 02:16:08.880 That's before he jumps. That's before he jumps. 2696 02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:12.319 So he goes back, okay, and then he fixes everything. 2697 02:16:12.399 --> 02:16:15.840 If you look backward on that, if you add the 2698 02:16:15.920 --> 02:16:21.880 numbers on the on the other picture with the odometer, 2699 02:16:22.079 --> 02:16:26.520 it goes back to a one on the bottom. Back 2700 02:16:26.560 --> 02:16:30.319 to what I was saying on the completion. It's on 2701 02:16:30.439 --> 02:16:33.399 the other a dometer on the changed one. When they 2702 02:16:33.440 --> 02:16:33.799 fix it. 2703 02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:39.959 When when he hits you know, when he crosses over, 2704 02:16:40.000 --> 02:16:41.399 you remember how like he hits a scarecrow in that 2705 02:16:41.440 --> 02:16:46.600 guy's property. Hey, yeah, yeah, scarecrow equals as scluppy as 2706 02:16:47.399 --> 02:16:52.040 and Francis Bacon masonry. And the letters nine to eleven 2707 02:16:52.799 --> 02:16:55.440 and April eighth and April eight is also the first 2708 02:16:55.520 --> 02:16:59.440 writing of the book of the Law. The speed, the 2709 02:16:59.520 --> 02:17:02.559 speed win hitting the scarecrow, you'll see on the screen 2710 02:17:02.799 --> 02:17:04.639 is like, h if I let me see if I 2711 02:17:04.680 --> 02:17:05.200 can move over. 2712 02:17:06.440 --> 02:17:07.799 If you don't have that, bring it up. 2713 02:17:07.879 --> 02:17:11.799 But right there he hits it at seventy seven. Seventy 2714 02:17:11.879 --> 02:17:17.680 seven is Canduce's valley. Jester USSR silly. 2715 02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:21.360 Damn Nick, I wouldn't expecting you. 2716 02:17:21.440 --> 02:17:22.600 To hit me with that one. 2717 02:17:22.879 --> 02:17:27.280 And then when he's leaving, you'll hear at some point 2718 02:17:27.319 --> 02:17:31.319 in the movie, Doc says, uh, he was at mister 2719 02:17:31.360 --> 02:17:33.840 Peabody's house. And Doc does say at some point he's like, 2720 02:17:34.159 --> 02:17:35.719 the guy was supposed to be building a pine farm. 2721 02:17:35.840 --> 02:17:39.440 I wonder why he never did. And as yes, and 2722 02:17:39.600 --> 02:17:43.719 as he's leaving Peabody's yard, you hear him yell, you 2723 02:17:43.959 --> 02:17:45.079 killed my pines. 2724 02:17:46.120 --> 02:17:46.680 Well, there you go. 2725 02:17:46.719 --> 02:17:48.959 That's why I never got built, because Marty ran it over. 2726 02:17:50.639 --> 02:17:53.239 I think that's also why it goes from twin pines 2727 02:17:53.319 --> 02:17:57.479 to lone Pine, because Marty runs over just the one 2728 02:17:57.799 --> 02:18:01.440 and then there's only one left stand ding Well. 2729 02:18:01.479 --> 02:18:04.920 And he also fixes his dad's life and then completes 2730 02:18:05.040 --> 02:18:08.159 the wholeness of the whole thing, so it changes. 2731 02:18:07.879 --> 02:18:11.440 To one like he was a loser and becomes a 2732 02:18:11.479 --> 02:18:14.159 successful author who's kind of a winner there when he comes. 2733 02:18:13.959 --> 02:18:18.760 Back right after all that, Yeah, yeah, I like, I like, 2734 02:18:18.879 --> 02:18:20.719 I like you picked up on all the rotary signs. 2735 02:18:20.719 --> 02:18:22.120 And this is when you go into a town. I 2736 02:18:22.200 --> 02:18:25.239 always folks, you know, if you get to a town, 2737 02:18:25.280 --> 02:18:26.799 you see all these signs. When you pull into a town, 2738 02:18:26.840 --> 02:18:30.200 that's who runs that town and he runs Hill Valley, right, 2739 02:18:30.319 --> 02:18:33.239 the Lions. 2740 02:18:33.319 --> 02:18:36.520 I'm surprised that the Masons aren't on there because all 2741 02:18:36.600 --> 02:18:41.040 of the town signs in Oklahoma have the Masons on them, 2742 02:18:41.760 --> 02:18:42.040 is it not? 2743 02:18:43.799 --> 02:18:49.399 Basically, yeah, they are the Lions Club and the Rotary Club. 2744 02:18:49.760 --> 02:18:53.639 Yeah, I guess I was talking about right then, the 2745 02:18:53.760 --> 02:18:56.719 old compass one the compass. 2746 02:18:56.799 --> 02:19:00.239 What if what if the person to draft what Julius saying, 2747 02:19:00.319 --> 02:19:02.559 what if the person making the film is a Mason? 2748 02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:05.840 That's what I'm That's what I'm saying. That's that's that's 2749 02:19:05.879 --> 02:19:07.559 the one, that's the will. 2750 02:19:07.840 --> 02:19:10.520 They don't need to put the this, They don't need 2751 02:19:10.559 --> 02:19:13.159 to put the sigil on the thing because they're wearing it. 2752 02:19:14.360 --> 02:19:16.840 They also don't want to flag their own business necessarily 2753 02:19:16.879 --> 02:19:19.879 too so symbolical, so overtly right, And it's kind of 2754 02:19:19.920 --> 02:19:22.159 a to me, it almost seems like a nod, like, hey, 2755 02:19:22.239 --> 02:19:24.920 the Masons aren't involved. They're trying to a trickster nod, right, 2756 02:19:24.959 --> 02:19:27.360 because they're not including the sign on on the Hill 2757 02:19:27.440 --> 02:19:28.879 Valley sign right, the symbol. 2758 02:19:30.200 --> 02:19:33.479 And real quick I could actually connect all these to freemasonry. 2759 02:19:34.239 --> 02:19:34.760 Well, there you go. 2760 02:19:35.760 --> 02:19:38.760 Gustaf Laura ate it wrong. Was one of the Rotary 2761 02:19:38.840 --> 02:19:42.639 Cubs for founders. He was a Mason. The National Range 2762 02:19:42.719 --> 02:19:45.360 founder Oliver Kelly was a Mason and used those ties 2763 02:19:45.399 --> 02:19:48.920 to recruit farmers after the Civil War. Daniel Carter Beard, 2764 02:19:49.000 --> 02:19:52.639 boy Scout pioneer who helped launch Campfire Girls, was a 2765 02:19:52.840 --> 02:19:56.879 Mason as well. The Grange borrowed in It's an explicit 2766 02:19:57.200 --> 02:20:01.600 harvest degree system from Masonic Virtual Handbook. Future Farmers of 2767 02:20:01.680 --> 02:20:04.719 America built its opening and closing ceremony on the scene 2768 02:20:05.239 --> 02:20:09.280 Orfiso pole format used the Masonic lodges. The American Legion 2769 02:20:09.360 --> 02:20:13.079 has a short initiatory right and nineteen nineties Fraternal survey 2770 02:20:13.200 --> 02:20:17.920 noted some posts whose memberships were entirely Masonic. So like 2771 02:20:18.000 --> 02:20:21.559 what that's getting at is, basically some American Legion places 2772 02:20:21.600 --> 02:20:26.399 were only like Masons. Basically that were numbers. Many small 2773 02:20:26.719 --> 02:20:31.879 Kawanas or Optimist clubs rent local Masonic holes to do things. 2774 02:20:33.559 --> 02:20:40.840 The civic freemasonries nineteenth century stress on philanthropy and networking 2775 02:20:40.959 --> 02:20:44.799 inspired the progressive era in the servicing clubs, which was 2776 02:20:44.879 --> 02:20:50.159 the Kawanas, the Optimists, and the Rotary. The Kawanis International 2777 02:20:50.520 --> 02:20:56.239 sometimes uses Masonic lodges. The Rotary International will sometimes use 2778 02:20:56.319 --> 02:20:58.959 Masonic lodges, and one of the founders, Gus Lore, was 2779 02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:04.799 a Mason and uh Nazi Germany. I mean the American 2780 02:21:04.879 --> 02:21:09.399 Legion again also has initiatorial things for that, the Grange, 2781 02:21:10.079 --> 02:21:14.600 the Agricultural Degree, the Optimist International will also rent out 2782 02:21:14.719 --> 02:21:17.559 meson like places to do their things at. So they 2783 02:21:17.600 --> 02:21:21.360 were all either like somehow one of the founders was involved, 2784 02:21:21.440 --> 02:21:24.120 they're renting that space, or they're actually including some of 2785 02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:27.959 their initiatory stuff into their crap, every single one of them. 2786 02:21:28.120 --> 02:21:30.840 I didn't cover the j c's. I actually forgot that 2787 02:21:30.920 --> 02:21:31.399 that was there. 2788 02:21:31.719 --> 02:21:35.280 Yeah, but the j didn't cover this. 2789 02:21:35.520 --> 02:21:37.440 I didn't throw the j c's in there. But I mean, 2790 02:21:37.879 --> 02:21:39.719 that's who the fuck was in the j c's that 2791 02:21:39.799 --> 02:21:40.840 killed count clown. 2792 02:21:40.639 --> 02:21:42.840 Killer John Wayne Gacy. 2793 02:21:43.040 --> 02:21:46.520 Yeah, yeah, the j Yeah, there's something weird with that. 2794 02:21:46.840 --> 02:21:48.600 He was National jay C of the Year, wasn't he. 2795 02:21:48.600 --> 02:21:50.520 That's why he got photographs with Roslynd Carter. 2796 02:21:50.600 --> 02:21:52.520 I believe yes, he was. 2797 02:21:52.719 --> 02:21:57.399 That was in Program to Kill. Actually, Dave McGowan wrote 2798 02:21:57.440 --> 02:22:01.799 about that. There was common it was McGowan. There was 2799 02:22:01.840 --> 02:22:04.399 a comment that popped up. I don't remember. I think 2800 02:22:04.559 --> 02:22:08.639 the user name was oak Tree sixty nine. 2801 02:22:09.559 --> 02:22:11.280 I fine, you must see this one right here. 2802 02:22:12.159 --> 02:22:14.440 Yeah, okay, I don't know if they noticed this, because 2803 02:22:14.479 --> 02:22:17.559 they say twin Pines Loan Pine upside down, V. 2804 02:22:17.879 --> 02:22:22.120 And W and the terrorists were in a V W 2805 02:22:22.639 --> 02:22:24.799 bug van or. 2806 02:22:24.840 --> 02:22:29.399 Whatever they call him, of old swaggen hippie van, you know, 2807 02:22:29.719 --> 02:22:31.639 which I thought was an interesting selection. 2808 02:22:32.079 --> 02:22:33.000 And you actually. 2809 02:22:34.319 --> 02:22:37.440 Yeah, and you actually see that same van at the 2810 02:22:37.639 --> 02:22:40.719 end of the movie when they're blasting off where we're 2811 02:22:40.799 --> 02:22:44.399 going we don't need roads, that same van is parked 2812 02:22:44.719 --> 02:22:48.360 on this on the street in front of the mcflyes household. 2813 02:22:49.040 --> 02:22:51.040 So I thought that was interesting too. 2814 02:22:52.120 --> 02:22:53.920 Here's a great that is very interesting. Here's a great 2815 02:22:53.959 --> 02:22:56.799 comment about Darth Vader making that scene. And they're right 2816 02:22:56.840 --> 02:23:00.680 when he does the the alien you know, invasion into 2817 02:23:00.719 --> 02:23:05.120 his father's bedroom there in nineteen for there's nuclear suit. 2818 02:23:05.479 --> 02:23:07.159 He mixes it with Star Trek too. 2819 02:23:07.959 --> 02:23:10.360 Yeah, but it goes back again to all these you 2820 02:23:10.479 --> 02:23:13.079 know rockets, the nast of the von Braun, the ancient 2821 02:23:13.079 --> 02:23:15.639 alien cargo cult stories you knew of the you know, 2822 02:23:15.799 --> 02:23:18.239 long time ago in a galaxy far far away with 2823 02:23:18.600 --> 02:23:20.920 Star Wars, right, couldn't get any more incent alien than that. 2824 02:23:23.319 --> 02:23:26.159 That's awesome. Stuff, though I appreciate the comments on those 2825 02:23:26.159 --> 02:23:29.559 things as well. Did you have any any more points 2826 02:23:29.600 --> 02:23:30.719 here on these slides? 2827 02:23:35.360 --> 02:23:37.239 Oh? No, I just want to say that Julia made 2828 02:23:37.239 --> 02:23:40.000 a realated comment and I also noticed that comment that 2829 02:23:40.239 --> 02:23:42.920 you pulled up JJ, because it's very The whole film 2830 02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:46.079 is very plus ultray. Even Hill Valley, it's like two 2831 02:23:46.159 --> 02:23:48.360 poles of a magnet with a bridge between. Then you 2832 02:23:48.479 --> 02:23:51.399 have the valley, the point of the star coming down, 2833 02:23:51.600 --> 02:23:56.200 very eastern star right riving into manifestation. That's seventeen the 2834 02:23:56.639 --> 02:24:01.319 seventeenth path of Kabbala Venus into your soad, it's coming 2835 02:24:01.399 --> 02:24:05.120 into formation. So you're drawing like the Venus down the wealth, 2836 02:24:05.959 --> 02:24:09.719 you know, all the magic that is that is light 2837 02:24:09.879 --> 02:24:12.479 really and you're drawing it in. So it's something really 2838 02:24:12.520 --> 02:24:16.239 interesting about like what everybody's saying, and just like the 2839 02:24:16.360 --> 02:24:19.600 kind of meta narrative of the whole film, because you 2840 02:24:19.680 --> 02:24:23.440 could also say that they're kind of telling you that, yeah, 2841 02:24:23.680 --> 02:24:27.120 they use we use plutonium. This is our cover story. 2842 02:24:27.639 --> 02:24:29.559 But then when he goes back in the past, he 2843 02:24:29.639 --> 02:24:32.559 has to use lightning. So they're saying you can actually 2844 02:24:32.639 --> 02:24:37.440 recreate it totally on your own through lightning, because like 2845 02:24:37.520 --> 02:24:39.959 what Heidi said, it's all the dream, right, So the 2846 02:24:40.000 --> 02:24:44.319 plutonium was just the trial in that time and space, 2847 02:24:45.079 --> 02:24:48.920 but once they moved through time into a different space, 2848 02:24:49.959 --> 02:24:53.120 they used a different method. I don't know, there's something 2849 02:24:53.200 --> 02:24:55.840 really metaphysically interesting now that we're all talking about this, 2850 02:24:55.920 --> 02:24:58.000 because I honestly did not catch all of this that 2851 02:24:58.079 --> 02:25:01.239 I'm saying. So don't like like this is just like 2852 02:25:01.399 --> 02:25:03.239 free range me just totally. 2853 02:25:06.760 --> 02:25:09.559 Well, that goes conversations, right, you know what I mean? 2854 02:25:11.639 --> 02:25:15.079 Yeah, to the two pines splitting apart because they go 2855 02:25:15.200 --> 02:25:17.719 on the journey together to try and fix the dad's life. 2856 02:25:17.840 --> 02:25:20.520 Like I've said, it's linear the whole time. And then 2857 02:25:20.639 --> 02:25:24.120 as he returns, he's the only one returning to the 2858 02:25:24.200 --> 02:25:27.920 one back to one, same with the speedometer going back. 2859 02:25:28.559 --> 02:25:31.719 It went to one when you added him. So I think, 2860 02:25:31.959 --> 02:25:34.479 I mean, for me, it's a hero's journey all of this, 2861 02:25:34.719 --> 02:25:36.600 you know, Greek stuff. But I mean I see every 2862 02:25:36.639 --> 02:25:37.319 other point too. 2863 02:25:37.840 --> 02:25:44.600 So yeah, he's the true he's like doing the Joe. 2864 02:25:44.600 --> 02:25:46.799 I'll make a warming joke, Heidi. For you, he's the 2865 02:25:46.959 --> 02:25:48.360 Joseph Smith of the journey. 2866 02:25:49.159 --> 02:25:49.319 Right. 2867 02:25:49.799 --> 02:25:52.680 It travels through the arc. That's what the DeLorean is 2868 02:25:52.799 --> 02:25:56.120 it's his arc, right, Yeah, so like he puts in 2869 02:25:56.200 --> 02:25:58.920 the plutonium. Like you said, Pluto is kind of like 2870 02:25:59.040 --> 02:26:01.360 the Dead Father, the corpse of the Father, maybe you 2871 02:26:01.399 --> 02:26:04.479 could say. And so they spend it, so they spend 2872 02:26:04.600 --> 02:26:07.719 his seed and then they wind up with nothing. So 2873 02:26:07.879 --> 02:26:09.920 he kind of like burns out the arc. And then 2874 02:26:09.959 --> 02:26:12.799 he asks to go get his friend who's the god 2875 02:26:12.879 --> 02:26:16.879 of infinite giving Jupiter Zeus, and yes, rectify it. 2876 02:26:16.959 --> 02:26:22.680 With lightning, yes, exactly, and then they win against Kronos 2877 02:26:22.799 --> 02:26:25.719 in time. And then at the end when when they 2878 02:26:25.840 --> 02:26:27.879 come back, well, I don't know if you want me 2879 02:26:28.000 --> 02:26:30.479 to tell this now or well I was going to say. 2880 02:26:30.440 --> 02:26:32.239 Yeah, we can if we want to wrap up the 2881 02:26:32.280 --> 02:26:35.840 storyline before we get into the actual time traveling device 2882 02:26:35.920 --> 02:26:38.159 here the Delorian, before we you know, I'm going to 2883 02:26:38.200 --> 02:26:40.280 close up some stuff around the DeLorean subject. But if 2884 02:26:40.319 --> 02:26:42.719 you want to finish up the the cult stuff we've 2885 02:26:42.719 --> 02:26:43.959 seen in the narrative, that's great. 2886 02:26:44.639 --> 02:26:47.159 So when they re enter, when he comes back through, 2887 02:26:47.680 --> 02:26:51.280 you'll see him come in and the scene she showed 2888 02:26:51.319 --> 02:26:55.040 with the fire makes a piscey sign as they're. 2889 02:26:54.920 --> 02:26:58.040 Coming through, and then on top of it, up in 2890 02:26:58.120 --> 02:26:59.120 the cinema. 2891 02:26:58.879 --> 02:27:02.879 Area, you'll see green lights and and it's glowing, so 2892 02:27:03.719 --> 02:27:07.399 you know, with the green and the heart chakra re entrance. 2893 02:27:07.879 --> 02:27:11.479 And then on the town theater when they come back, 2894 02:27:11.639 --> 02:27:15.319 you'll see the movie has changed to an American orgy. 2895 02:27:15.440 --> 02:27:17.360 It's a sex film, so sex magic. 2896 02:27:18.239 --> 02:27:20.840 And then to the other side of it, it has 2897 02:27:21.000 --> 02:27:25.399 Jesus saves signs and all these salvation signs. So there 2898 02:27:25.600 --> 02:27:29.319 was his choice to go either again right right hand path, 2899 02:27:29.399 --> 02:27:31.959 left hand past sex magic. Are you gonna be the 2900 02:27:32.040 --> 02:27:34.680 magician of your own life and creation or are you gonna, 2901 02:27:34.920 --> 02:27:37.360 you know, put your faith in something else? And then 2902 02:27:37.520 --> 02:27:42.159 it's it's surrounding the hole that he comes like, yeah, 2903 02:27:42.879 --> 02:27:43.479 so that's. 2904 02:27:43.319 --> 02:27:43.840 What I saw. 2905 02:27:44.040 --> 02:27:46.079 I didn't catch the I didn't catch the maybe title 2906 02:27:46.159 --> 02:27:48.239 with with that, that is very much a reference to 2907 02:27:48.399 --> 02:27:51.479 such things as sex magic, which is interesting. So back 2908 02:27:51.520 --> 02:27:53.680 to for Reacerman real quick, you just spawned a thought 2909 02:27:53.719 --> 02:27:57.280 of mine. For Reackerman, he was a literary agent for 2910 02:27:57.440 --> 02:27:59.920 ed Wood, you know, uh kind of a He was 2911 02:28:00.079 --> 02:28:03.840 the pioneer of exploit exploitation films, which was largely blow Yeah, 2912 02:28:04.920 --> 02:28:05.680 so he uh. 2913 02:28:05.840 --> 02:28:09.840 You know, there you go with these the one from 2914 02:28:09.920 --> 02:28:11.319 the Johnny Depp movie. 2915 02:28:12.680 --> 02:28:15.639 That's the precise same one, and again Depth depths deeply 2916 02:28:15.719 --> 02:28:18.399 involved in the neo process and the processes who popular 2917 02:28:18.479 --> 02:28:22.159 popularized exploitation films in the seventies, such as Processed Church 2918 02:28:22.239 --> 02:28:25.920 member John Waters, Hollywood director m hmm. 2919 02:28:27.360 --> 02:28:31.520 Isn't it crazy how it's like literally every time with 2920 02:28:31.799 --> 02:28:37.040 each new episode, I learn a plethora of fucking information. 2921 02:28:37.879 --> 02:28:38.760 That's why I listen. 2922 02:28:39.360 --> 02:28:40.760 I listened to all of a cult rejects when we 2923 02:28:40.840 --> 02:28:43.000 get together, because I I know things when we're talking 2924 02:28:43.040 --> 02:28:44.799 about I'm like, I always pick up other things I 2925 02:28:44.840 --> 02:28:46.200 didn't know when I re listened to it too. 2926 02:28:46.319 --> 02:28:49.520 Yeah, you select. 2927 02:28:51.479 --> 02:28:55.840 Very So I'll just say, now that we're talking about 2928 02:28:55.879 --> 02:28:58.000 that scene, what are your thoughts on the hobo? 2929 02:28:58.120 --> 02:28:58.239 Here? 2930 02:28:58.680 --> 02:28:59.159 Go ahead, Jen. 2931 02:29:00.159 --> 02:29:02.559 No, it's just a super cabalistic image, and it actually 2932 02:29:02.840 --> 02:29:05.680 fits really well with our discussions on Mormon and magic 2933 02:29:06.200 --> 02:29:10.440 because it really is like a very good nuts oc color. 2934 02:29:10.559 --> 02:29:12.559 But then there's also a quality of green that can 2935 02:29:12.639 --> 02:29:15.520 be hoed. This is where a lot of people get confused, 2936 02:29:15.559 --> 02:29:18.760 because there's like a blue green quality also there. So 2937 02:29:19.159 --> 02:29:21.280 it can either be described as like emerald with light 2938 02:29:21.360 --> 02:29:24.399 passing through, but it can also be described as blue 2939 02:29:24.479 --> 02:29:27.120 green like turquoise, but that's really the reflection of Hesse. 2940 02:29:27.360 --> 02:29:32.280 That's how it's described. So it's interesting because that's kind 2941 02:29:32.319 --> 02:29:35.719 of the hermitic journey of the whole film, right, So 2942 02:29:35.920 --> 02:29:39.239 it's kind of in one image, it kind of relays 2943 02:29:40.000 --> 02:29:42.559 a hero's journey, like does he go through the mother 2944 02:29:43.200 --> 02:29:46.559 the diamond into the splendors of light? Or does he 2945 02:29:46.639 --> 02:29:48.680 travel through the fire into the path of the Father. 2946 02:29:50.639 --> 02:29:52.760 And so you're saying he's kind of a messenger then, 2947 02:29:52.799 --> 02:29:54.719 because I was thinking, this guy's kind of a messenger 2948 02:29:54.799 --> 02:29:55.600 between all these worlds. 2949 02:29:55.680 --> 02:29:57.680 He's always run into this d town. 2950 02:29:59.079 --> 02:30:00.319 Yep, yep. 2951 02:30:01.280 --> 02:30:03.639 And then in that by the cinema, it's a clearer 2952 02:30:03.760 --> 02:30:06.200 green instead of a turquoise green. It's more of a 2953 02:30:07.159 --> 02:30:10.280 brighter green where you can see the American Orgy sign 2954 02:30:11.200 --> 02:30:14.079 and the Jesus Saves and all that signs. 2955 02:30:14.200 --> 02:30:17.399 And also we've got Biff before we leave him out, 2956 02:30:17.600 --> 02:30:18.520 like Hiram a Biff. 2957 02:30:19.920 --> 02:30:22.280 Well, then I was going to close out with Biff 2958 02:30:22.319 --> 02:30:24.479 once we're done with the storyline here, because he ties 2959 02:30:24.520 --> 02:30:26.520 it into the stuff with the Glorian after when we 2960 02:30:26.600 --> 02:30:27.920 talk the Glorian stuff as well. 2961 02:30:28.799 --> 02:30:30.600 Yeah, I just wanted to mention that and that the 2962 02:30:30.680 --> 02:30:33.680 brother when you look at the photo, when they're looking 2963 02:30:33.799 --> 02:30:36.360 at the picture of them disappearing, the brother's wearing a 2964 02:30:36.440 --> 02:30:37.719 Disney Mickey Mouse shirt. 2965 02:30:37.920 --> 02:30:40.000 I just had to say that since we've been talking about. 2966 02:30:41.280 --> 02:30:46.239 Yeah, well there's the m M right, Mickey Mouse, Marty mcfla. 2967 02:30:47.079 --> 02:30:49.040 And that's all I have. I'll be quiet now. Sorry 2968 02:30:49.120 --> 02:30:50.000 I nerded out on this. 2969 02:30:50.760 --> 02:30:56.399 That's great, that's great now I like it. Do we 2970 02:30:56.440 --> 02:30:58.440 have any other closing commentary on the journey that he 2971 02:30:58.479 --> 02:31:00.680 took before we start closing out with biff In in 2972 02:31:00.959 --> 02:31:01.559 the DeLorean? 2973 02:31:02.040 --> 02:31:03.879 Oh, Delorian, I have some stuff I could talk about 2974 02:31:03.879 --> 02:31:04.239 real quick. 2975 02:31:05.520 --> 02:31:08.000 Yeah, let's do the Delorium. We'll roll it into fifteen 2976 02:31:08.079 --> 02:31:09.959 and how does that sound? Yeah, and we'll call and 2977 02:31:10.200 --> 02:31:11.559 and we'll call it in here after that. 2978 02:31:12.799 --> 02:31:13.239 All right? 2979 02:31:13.639 --> 02:31:14.000 What uh? 2980 02:31:14.120 --> 02:31:15.280 What are your thoughts on Delorian? 2981 02:31:15.319 --> 02:31:15.479 Nick? 2982 02:31:16.799 --> 02:31:19.079 Oh, the DeLorean? Well, I mean it's more like silver, 2983 02:31:19.760 --> 02:31:21.520 so I kind of put that more with mercury, like 2984 02:31:21.840 --> 02:31:26.440 kind of like quicksilver symbolic of the albedo stage in alchemy. 2985 02:31:27.399 --> 02:31:30.600 It's plowered by powered like Heidi had even mentioned before, 2986 02:31:30.639 --> 02:31:33.040 the plutonium Pluto god of the underworld. 2987 02:31:33.680 --> 02:31:36.040 And what was the why situation? With the fox capacitor. 2988 02:31:36.159 --> 02:31:38.399 What was the significance there in to me? 2989 02:31:38.600 --> 02:31:41.200 I mean, it's the shape of the rising beast. And uh, 2990 02:31:41.280 --> 02:31:42.600 when you're doing the l v X. 2991 02:31:44.440 --> 02:31:48.719 Formula and uh you're interesting, Yeah, when you're actually Yeah, 2992 02:31:48.760 --> 02:31:52.399 when you're doing a ritual, there's certain things that you 2993 02:31:52.520 --> 02:31:56.000 make a y and uh yeah, it's supposed to supposed. 2994 02:31:55.639 --> 02:31:58.159 To be of some regards what you're saying. 2995 02:31:58.479 --> 02:32:00.280 It's something that you will make when you're doing actual 2996 02:32:02.760 --> 02:32:04.600 and then I have I mean it needs one point 2997 02:32:04.639 --> 02:32:06.799 twenty when jigawatts, I just found it interesting with eleven 2998 02:32:06.879 --> 02:32:10.399 times eleven does get that, you know, very giantus like 2999 02:32:10.520 --> 02:32:13.239 or double poles or twin pines. I guess again, I 3000 02:32:13.280 --> 02:32:18.719 don't know. Yeah, uh again, uh, stainless still body kind 3001 02:32:18.760 --> 02:32:22.600 of uh you know even that look purifying mercury stage 3002 02:32:22.840 --> 02:32:27.479 reflex reality a mirror or a portal I did I mean, 3003 02:32:27.559 --> 02:32:30.440 maybe going too far, but even with the wings opening up, 3004 02:32:31.280 --> 02:32:35.680 it's very like a scar blike or you know, the soul. 3005 02:32:35.520 --> 02:32:36.879 The gold the gold wing style. 3006 02:32:36.879 --> 02:32:39.840 I mean, that's very unique, very neat even I mean 3007 02:32:39.959 --> 02:32:42.559 and to all automobiles, that's not a very common feature, right, 3008 02:32:42.680 --> 02:32:45.200 So what do you think the the nature of that is, 3009 02:32:45.280 --> 02:32:46.799 as far as the cultism goes, I. 3010 02:32:46.840 --> 02:32:49.840 Have like horses ring or rings, the Egyptian like solar, 3011 02:32:50.079 --> 02:32:53.319 the solar discu scowlike kind of resurrection. 3012 02:32:54.680 --> 02:32:59.120 That's even a fallen angel, even fallen angel type, you know. 3013 02:33:00.079 --> 02:33:03.600 Yeah, yeah, that would that would coming back. Yeah, that 3014 02:33:03.600 --> 02:33:09.840 would make sense. Yeah, yes, exactly, yeah, totally. Uh, the 3015 02:33:09.920 --> 02:33:13.360 plutonium core against Pluto when you give the descendant to 3016 02:33:13.399 --> 02:33:20.120 the yeah, and then the flex capacitor, the y shaped sigil. Again, 3017 02:33:20.159 --> 02:33:23.399 I think the rising beast, and I've always like I 3018 02:33:23.479 --> 02:33:25.159 said that, I think the beasts without a leash is. 3019 02:33:25.120 --> 02:33:28.959 Pretty much just like electricity on its own, right, right, 3020 02:33:29.040 --> 02:33:30.600 that's very That's an interesting way to look at that. 3021 02:33:31.120 --> 02:33:33.239 I guess it looks like the etymology of DeLorean is 3022 02:33:33.280 --> 02:33:36.680 related to these hills right the hillside it says, think 3023 02:33:36.760 --> 02:33:38.040 of think of what you just. 3024 02:33:38.079 --> 02:33:41.040 Said, Nick, electricity on its own. That's exactly what the. 3025 02:33:41.079 --> 02:33:42.479 Lightning was, yeah exactly. 3026 02:33:42.520 --> 02:33:46.680 Yeah, So I didn't need the plutonium. It was on 3027 02:33:46.879 --> 02:33:47.280 its own. 3028 02:33:47.479 --> 02:33:51.440 Yeah. And you see that supposedly that that amount of 3029 02:33:51.600 --> 02:33:54.159 energy does equal electric bolt. I don't know if that's 3030 02:33:54.200 --> 02:34:01.000 true or not. Hmm, yeah, yeah, I didn't even another thing. Uh, 3031 02:34:02.559 --> 02:34:06.600 to ma sonic. The eighth letter is H, you know, 3032 02:34:06.639 --> 02:34:07.959 and you do see that a lie, like with the 3033 02:34:08.079 --> 02:34:11.319 number eighty eight, that would be like h H again 3034 02:34:11.360 --> 02:34:13.239 and that you're not even going to touch so much 3035 02:34:13.280 --> 02:34:14.959 with hal Hitler. But I would even say that would 3036 02:34:14.959 --> 02:34:19.440 be like maybe the the double pillars and like the 3037 02:34:19.799 --> 02:34:22.040 pines again, the twin pines, like just showing like double 3038 02:34:22.239 --> 02:34:25.719 double stuff, and even the twin towers. I even thought 3039 02:34:25.760 --> 02:34:29.920 that that might have somehow fit in there. That's a 3040 02:34:29.959 --> 02:34:33.280 little just happy to be in my face. Yeah, No, 3041 02:34:33.479 --> 02:34:34.639 I think that makes sense. 3042 02:34:34.680 --> 02:34:39.639 Sick because you're doubling the blessings from mercury, from Hoe 3043 02:34:39.760 --> 02:34:42.600 to Hasset. That's exactly what you're doing. You're throwing the 3044 02:34:42.719 --> 02:34:46.879 lightning at the ocean, staying and stubbling and stubbling double 3045 02:34:46.920 --> 02:34:50.040 a double a double eight. Right, But it's really a reflection. 3046 02:34:51.440 --> 02:34:53.799 So are you're gonna transmute the water? Like you were 3047 02:34:53.840 --> 02:34:57.879 saying about alchemy because the film is extremely outchomical, like 3048 02:34:58.120 --> 02:35:02.520 everything in the film, even flux. Flux can be alchemically 3049 02:35:02.639 --> 02:35:06.120 linked to hod or Hoke mo is it is it 3050 02:35:06.399 --> 02:35:11.040 before it's used or after it's used? Because actually you 3051 02:35:11.120 --> 02:35:14.920 can reconstitute flux, So that's another really interesting thing. I 3052 02:35:15.000 --> 02:35:18.440 also nested an image of that of the deity with 3053 02:35:18.559 --> 02:35:22.159 the serpent, which reminds me of that image that Nick makes, 3054 02:35:22.239 --> 02:35:26.520 like the why because it he also makes that, And 3055 02:35:26.639 --> 02:35:29.360 then you can also explain it with like the serpent 3056 02:35:29.760 --> 02:35:33.319 crown behind him, it's like kind of exploding into view 3057 02:35:34.000 --> 02:35:38.360 and his body is blue, so it's kind of stainless, 3058 02:35:38.520 --> 02:35:42.600 kind of adamantine. You could say. It's interesting. I think 3059 02:35:42.639 --> 02:35:44.639 that you can make a case that, like their God 3060 02:35:44.799 --> 02:35:47.239 is really space. However you want to conceptualize that. 3061 02:35:48.159 --> 02:35:50.479 What if it's like the father's son too, Like what 3062 02:35:50.559 --> 02:35:54.319 if it's representing the two that become one because the 3063 02:35:54.440 --> 02:35:55.239 kid goes home. 3064 02:35:55.840 --> 02:35:57.680 That's why I think I have that Marty has the 3065 02:35:57.799 --> 02:36:01.040 yellow and the yellow. It's some points in my opinion, 3066 02:36:01.120 --> 02:36:03.120 if you look at Marty in the street and look 3067 02:36:03.159 --> 02:36:05.280 at a red car, it is an orange kind of 3068 02:36:05.360 --> 02:36:08.719 looking vest that really read the orange and hod and 3069 02:36:08.760 --> 02:36:12.559 then the blue. The blue clothes shows the prince in 3070 02:36:12.600 --> 02:36:13.600 the king. At the same time. 3071 02:36:14.959 --> 02:36:24.360 On sex, sex sex power too with orange right passion, Yeah, 3072 02:36:27.239 --> 02:36:27.719 I think so. 3073 02:36:29.479 --> 02:36:31.559 Yeah, So why do y'all think they? Aside from these 3074 02:36:31.559 --> 02:36:33.399 are all great details, why do you think they chose 3075 02:36:33.479 --> 02:36:35.040 this car? I mean, they said it was kind of 3076 02:36:35.079 --> 02:36:37.079 because it's futuristic look, and I guess I can buy 3077 02:36:37.159 --> 02:36:39.280 that to a certain extent, but I would. 3078 02:36:39.120 --> 02:36:43.399 Say it's futuristic looking, especially with the doors opening like that. 3079 02:36:44.680 --> 02:36:47.840 But I definitely lookistic. But why couldn't they just, you know, 3080 02:36:48.000 --> 02:36:50.200 church up another car. That the only what I'm getting 3081 02:36:50.200 --> 02:36:52.399 as this is a very unique automobile. And not only 3082 02:36:52.479 --> 02:36:55.760 that was John Dolorian was not like they chose this 3083 02:36:55.920 --> 02:36:58.360 car after a time where he was already he just 3084 02:36:58.479 --> 02:37:02.760 got acquitted of those cocaine trafficking charges, right this is 3085 02:37:02.840 --> 02:37:04.120 nineteen eighty four, just gets. 3086 02:37:03.959 --> 02:37:06.719 Acquitted, so he, you know, right when the movies just 3087 02:37:06.799 --> 02:37:07.559 about long. 3088 02:37:07.680 --> 02:37:09.879 So that means they wrote the film while he's on 3089 02:37:10.079 --> 02:37:12.040 trial for cocaine trafficking charges. 3090 02:37:13.000 --> 02:37:18.000 And to cart me question enough just very. 3091 02:37:23.520 --> 02:37:24.680 JJ you cut out. 3092 02:37:25.719 --> 02:37:29.440 Oh shoot, yes, So I was saying, it's very bizarre circumstances. 3093 02:37:29.760 --> 02:37:32.639 John Delorian's on trial while they're writing this film and 3094 02:37:32.760 --> 02:37:35.360 getting ready to start filming it. It's on trial for 3095 02:37:35.440 --> 02:37:39.079 cocaine trafficking charges that he's on trumped up charges by 3096 02:37:39.120 --> 02:37:41.840 the FBI and the DEA. So they set him up 3097 02:37:41.840 --> 02:37:44.079 for these things on a sting operation. He gets acquitted, 3098 02:37:44.120 --> 02:37:46.799 but he gets acquitted just shortly before they start filming. 3099 02:37:46.879 --> 02:37:49.520 But meaning they used a vehicle of a dude who's 3100 02:37:49.559 --> 02:37:53.000 on trial for cocaine trafficking charges in a vehicle. He 3101 02:37:53.079 --> 02:37:55.399 only made nine thousand of them, which I had already 3102 02:37:55.399 --> 02:37:58.280 seesed production, so just it seemed like an odd vehicle 3103 02:37:58.399 --> 02:37:58.840 choice to me. 3104 02:37:59.440 --> 02:38:02.879 Well, so you know what the last name Delarean means. 3105 02:38:03.760 --> 02:38:06.760 Hill Thought apparently, which is wild man from the Hills. 3106 02:38:07.079 --> 02:38:11.959 Yeah, from the Hills Hill Valley. That's that's why I 3107 02:38:12.559 --> 02:38:13.840 put that in my notes. 3108 02:38:14.000 --> 02:38:16.440 But I mean, oh, I just. 3109 02:38:16.440 --> 02:38:18.040 Tell that in the chatam I'm again, But no, that's 3110 02:38:18.079 --> 02:38:19.239 great stuff, Julia. 3111 02:38:19.120 --> 02:38:23.399 JJ, real quick before you move on. Uh, I thought 3112 02:38:23.440 --> 02:38:26.639 of the mirroring with the the Larean forgot like the 3113 02:38:26.719 --> 02:38:29.040 first thing of my notes, which really made me start 3114 02:38:29.079 --> 02:38:31.719 to think. Besides Martin McFly with the MM obviously for 3115 02:38:31.799 --> 02:38:34.680 the MEA since uh, he wakes up at seven fifty 3116 02:38:34.719 --> 02:38:37.559 three and back, I started thinking mirroring, and I really 3117 02:38:37.559 --> 02:38:39.000 wish I would have done this with more stuff. I 3118 02:38:39.040 --> 02:38:42.799 didn't really get a chance to run everything backwards. But 3119 02:38:42.920 --> 02:38:45.760 three fifty seven is a Masonic Rich write in a 3120 02:38:45.840 --> 02:38:49.360 ritual that William Preston and Thomas Smith Webb do use 3121 02:38:49.440 --> 02:38:52.200 in like their areas, and that kind of starts getting 3122 02:38:52.200 --> 02:38:53.680 into the Scottish rite type stuff. 3123 02:38:56.159 --> 02:38:59.319 And to Julia's point, or who made the point about 3124 02:38:59.319 --> 02:39:04.520 the hill Julia? And where do they build the altars 3125 02:39:04.639 --> 02:39:07.399 to their fallen angels at the high point? 3126 02:39:10.159 --> 02:39:12.280 I mean, I think they chose it for a reason. 3127 02:39:12.440 --> 02:39:16.040 I mean, the doors do look futuristic, Don't get me wrong, That's. 3128 02:39:15.879 --> 02:39:17.959 What I'm saying, Like that is an easy cop out there, right, 3129 02:39:18.000 --> 02:39:20.040 there's more to it, much like the film. There's more 3130 02:39:20.079 --> 02:39:20.319 of an. 3131 02:39:20.399 --> 02:39:24.879 Esoteric or I think so, well, the pr natural. 3132 02:39:24.639 --> 02:39:27.040 End, the dudes on the dudes on trial for cocaine? 3133 02:39:27.239 --> 02:39:29.200 What if what if he gets found guilty? They're going 3134 02:39:29.280 --> 02:39:31.159 to have his car in a big budget film? 3135 02:39:31.440 --> 02:39:32.079 I don't think so. 3136 02:39:32.840 --> 02:39:35.559 Yeah, but what if was he found guilty? 3137 02:39:36.760 --> 02:39:38.639 No, but that's what I'm saying. They wrote the film 3138 02:39:38.639 --> 02:39:44.079 while he was on trial. Okay, but well they started 3139 02:39:44.120 --> 02:39:46.600 filming at weeks like two maybe we'll call it ten 3140 02:39:46.680 --> 02:39:47.920 weeks after the trial ended. 3141 02:39:49.000 --> 02:39:51.680 Okay, Well, what if they knew he wasn't going to 3142 02:39:52.319 --> 02:39:56.079 get convicted of anything? I know that what if he 3143 02:39:56.239 --> 02:39:59.159 was running. What if he was running, because they let 3144 02:39:59.239 --> 02:40:01.959 him off just they did with like literally a bunch 3145 02:40:02.000 --> 02:40:02.399 of yies. 3146 02:40:02.600 --> 02:40:06.760 Yes, but I mean whatever they were really I don't 3147 02:40:06.760 --> 02:40:09.319 know who he pissed off, but the Feds literally set 3148 02:40:09.399 --> 02:40:11.120 him up. They brought him the deal and then they 3149 02:40:11.280 --> 02:40:13.040 video taped him doing the deal, and that's why he 3150 02:40:13.079 --> 02:40:15.159 got off. But then a couple of years later they 3151 02:40:15.239 --> 02:40:18.040 busted in for tax evasion, so they were really after 3152 02:40:18.159 --> 02:40:19.959 old uh jd here John. 3153 02:40:20.120 --> 02:40:23.079 Maybe maybe he pissed them off in some kind of way, 3154 02:40:23.159 --> 02:40:26.319 because like, if you were trying to buy a Dolorean 3155 02:40:26.479 --> 02:40:28.600 now you can't. 3156 02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:33.399 Yeah. 3157 02:40:33.440 --> 02:40:35.639 Strangely enough, Julia, there's a he made a very fine 3158 02:40:35.639 --> 02:40:38.239 automobile apparently, because out of the nine thousand or so 3159 02:40:38.280 --> 02:40:40.360 it was produced, about sixty percent are still still on 3160 02:40:40.399 --> 02:40:40.719 the road. 3161 02:40:41.719 --> 02:40:44.559 Well, what I'm saying though, is unless you're a millionaire, 3162 02:40:44.639 --> 02:40:47.360 you're not probably going to be able to afford this 3163 02:40:47.600 --> 02:40:48.680 to ride around it. 3164 02:40:49.559 --> 02:40:51.799 No, I know, I does a great point. I wasn't 3165 02:40:51.840 --> 02:40:52.239 saying you wrong. 3166 02:40:52.319 --> 02:40:54.120 Yeah, it's a great point because there's only nine thousand 3167 02:40:54.159 --> 02:40:56.200 that were ever produced, and you know, only about six 3168 02:40:56.280 --> 02:40:57.479 thousand I believe exists today. 3169 02:40:57.479 --> 02:40:59.040 But yeah, You're right. You're paying money because of the 3170 02:40:59.200 --> 02:41:00.920 lack of a you know man, right. 3171 02:41:01.319 --> 02:41:04.639 Well, you're paying money because everybody loves back to the future, 3172 02:41:06.280 --> 02:41:06.840 you know what I mean. 3173 02:41:08.600 --> 02:41:10.399 Everyone wants a delaory and they want to pamput out 3174 02:41:10.760 --> 02:41:11.000 my rid. 3175 02:41:11.319 --> 02:41:15.520 Yeah, they want to put the led light strips on it. 3176 02:41:15.719 --> 02:41:18.840 Yet, what if the Delorian guy was a member of 3177 02:41:18.920 --> 02:41:22.520 their lodge. I'm just thinking totally hypothetically, okay, and so 3178 02:41:22.719 --> 02:41:24.719 or he was like a member of their faction. You 3179 02:41:24.760 --> 02:41:26.639 could say, like, I know, JJ likes that word. 3180 02:41:26.719 --> 02:41:29.760 So you're reading my mind there, Jen, I'll be using 3181 02:41:29.799 --> 02:41:32.200 your wizard skills over here, buddy, you're reading my mind now. 3182 02:41:33.159 --> 02:41:34.319 So well, thank you. 3183 02:41:35.680 --> 02:41:37.760 So, yeah, he's a member of their fashion. It doesn't 3184 02:41:37.760 --> 02:41:40.000 matter if he gets convicted or not convicted, because they're 3185 02:41:40.000 --> 02:41:42.079 going to like give their little wink in their nod 3186 02:41:42.200 --> 02:41:47.440 to him. It's also interesting that like Delareian Motor Company. 3187 02:41:47.239 --> 02:41:47.879 D M C. 3188 02:41:48.200 --> 02:41:51.479 De Lette mem cough. I don't know. There's something kind 3189 02:41:51.479 --> 02:41:54.639 of interesting about that because if you write it out 3190 02:41:54.639 --> 02:41:57.840 in Hebrew, it looks like seven O seven. I'm just saying, 3191 02:41:58.399 --> 02:42:01.040 sure is an additional way to do the tamata. I'm 3192 02:42:01.040 --> 02:42:03.520 not saying that's the proper way and just just like 3193 02:42:03.719 --> 02:42:04.600 you know, just riffing. 3194 02:42:05.440 --> 02:42:07.559 That's good stuff. And to this comment here, that's a 3195 02:42:07.559 --> 02:42:09.360 great comment. The car turned out to suck, but it's 3196 02:42:09.719 --> 02:42:12.239 the collectors. I know it barely mechanically, it did not 3197 02:42:12.360 --> 02:42:14.079 function well. But what I was getting at was the 3198 02:42:14.159 --> 02:42:16.719 durability and long lasting nature of the body style and everything. 3199 02:42:16.959 --> 02:42:18.879 The way they did it kind of reminds me. I 3200 02:42:18.920 --> 02:42:21.200 think Elon Musk copied it for a cyber truck, right. 3201 02:42:21.239 --> 02:42:23.559 It is like that same kind of steel or whatever, 3202 02:42:23.840 --> 02:42:26.120 or that same kind of production of the body style. 3203 02:42:27.360 --> 02:42:28.440 They think they're plus ultra. 3204 02:42:28.600 --> 02:42:31.559 Dude, you're talking about. 3205 02:42:31.399 --> 02:42:34.639 Factions and cults, right, Yeah, talking about factions and cults 3206 02:42:34.719 --> 02:42:36.159 right there, you go, right, I mean that sounds like 3207 02:42:36.200 --> 02:42:38.440 a nice connection right there with just having the same 3208 02:42:38.479 --> 02:42:40.200 aesthetic to these automobiles they're designing. 3209 02:42:42.840 --> 02:42:48.000 Yep, they think they're the gay GAO tu right, like 3210 02:42:48.120 --> 02:42:49.399 we talked about last night. 3211 02:42:51.159 --> 02:42:51.600 For sure. 3212 02:42:51.760 --> 02:42:54.319 So just a quick rundown on old Dolaian Here he 3213 02:42:54.360 --> 02:42:58.280 gets charged October nineteenth of nineteen eighty two fifty nine 3214 02:42:58.319 --> 02:42:58.959 pounds of coke. 3215 02:42:59.120 --> 02:43:01.239 That's a lot. That's a lot. He wanted to sell 3216 02:43:01.280 --> 02:43:03.280 two hundred and twenty of them though, so he was 3217 02:43:03.319 --> 02:43:05.600 even into more of that, so again the FEDS brought 3218 02:43:05.639 --> 02:43:07.440 it to him, and the FED busted him. He was 3219 02:43:07.479 --> 02:43:09.680 pissing off Detroit by making this vehicles, I think is 3220 02:43:09.680 --> 02:43:12.319 what really boiled down to him in one aspect at least. 3221 02:43:12.360 --> 02:43:14.479 You know, he he was a former Detroit Guy's like 3222 02:43:14.520 --> 02:43:15.959 I'm gonna make my own car and the like the 3223 02:43:16.040 --> 02:43:19.079 hell you are, buddy. So he gets to quitted on 3224 02:43:19.200 --> 02:43:24.360 that on let's see here some September twenty first, nineteen 3225 02:43:24.399 --> 02:43:27.559 eighty five. So this movie comes out, comes out. I 3226 02:43:27.600 --> 02:43:31.959 guess really what started filming. I guess in December I believe, 3227 02:43:32.280 --> 02:43:35.399 so about three months later. So you know, I think 3228 02:43:35.440 --> 02:43:37.559 that's very interesting. And again I'm sorry that we'd know. 3229 02:43:37.600 --> 02:43:39.680 That's when he got charged with the fraud stuff. 3230 02:43:40.479 --> 02:43:42.920 He gets a quitted in August sixteenth, that's right, because 3231 02:43:42.920 --> 02:43:45.559 the movie came out July third, twenty or nineteen eighty five, 3232 02:43:46.120 --> 02:43:48.879 that makes sense. So he gets a quitted on August sixteenth, 3233 02:43:48.959 --> 02:43:52.559 nineteen eighty four, and then he's charged again in September 3234 02:43:52.559 --> 02:43:54.920 of eighty five. So they were after Delaurien, right, you 3235 02:43:54.959 --> 02:43:56.920 know what I mean, Like, whatever this dude did you know, 3236 02:43:56.959 --> 02:44:00.479 there were some some wall for or if you will, 3237 02:44:00.559 --> 02:44:02.079 being executed against him. 3238 02:44:02.159 --> 02:44:07.079 But what I find he was acquitted of all charges. 3239 02:44:07.760 --> 02:44:09.799 Well, yeah, they had it on videotape and there was 3240 02:44:09.879 --> 02:44:11.479 so much evidence that he was he was all it 3241 02:44:11.559 --> 02:44:13.479 was all in trapman, and he had some good attorneys. 3242 02:44:13.479 --> 02:44:15.920 But then and then, but did he win because then 3243 02:44:15.959 --> 02:44:17.920 they came after him, right, and then they're like, yeah, 3244 02:44:18.120 --> 02:44:19.920 we got you for fraud like months after, you know, 3245 02:44:20.319 --> 02:44:22.319 a year or so after he gets acquitted, right, So 3246 02:44:23.239 --> 02:44:24.040 you know he. 3247 02:44:24.040 --> 02:44:28.399 Said he was he was acquitted even after this September 3248 02:44:28.680 --> 02:44:29.559 nineteen eighty five. 3249 02:44:30.360 --> 02:44:31.840 No, that's a great point, That's what I'm getting at. 3250 02:44:31.879 --> 02:44:33.399 So do you really win because he's spending all this 3251 02:44:33.520 --> 02:44:36.760 money on attorneys to by two thousand, he's got he's 3252 02:44:36.799 --> 02:44:38.719 financially bankrupt and he's. 3253 02:44:38.559 --> 02:44:39.639 Got to sell it mansion. 3254 02:44:40.159 --> 02:44:43.319 It's all in who you know, right, right, right? 3255 02:44:43.399 --> 02:44:46.920 But what I'm getting is, there after someone's after bankrupting Glorian, 3256 02:44:47.000 --> 02:44:50.000 he sells his mansion in two thousands as a result 3257 02:44:50.159 --> 02:44:51.040 of this bankruptcy. 3258 02:44:51.079 --> 02:44:52.559 Right, we're gonna get into the bif tan. And here's 3259 02:44:52.600 --> 02:44:53.799 when I'm where I'm heading here. 3260 02:44:53.879 --> 02:44:56.159 So the day he got acquitted was magic. 3261 02:44:56.200 --> 02:44:58.639 I just want to say that seven one. 3262 02:45:00.079 --> 02:45:04.920 August sixteenth, nineteen eighty four. Nineteen four is twenty two, 3263 02:45:05.559 --> 02:45:07.239 super much number right. 3264 02:45:07.319 --> 02:45:09.360 How about September twenty first, nineteen eighty. 3265 02:45:09.200 --> 02:45:16.159 Five, Well, Augus is also the eight did you say them? 3266 02:45:17.280 --> 02:45:19.280 Yeah, eighteen sixteen, you got two eights? 3267 02:45:19.360 --> 02:45:19.479 Right? 3268 02:45:21.280 --> 02:45:21.479 Yeah? 3269 02:45:22.840 --> 02:45:25.319 How about September twenty first, nineteen eighty five. 3270 02:45:28.760 --> 02:45:29.639 I don't option. 3271 02:45:32.319 --> 02:45:33.239 Any comments. 3272 02:45:35.120 --> 02:45:40.239 Math, Yeah, well ninety three right right away? Yeah, and 3273 02:45:40.399 --> 02:45:47.520 what'd you say nineteen eighty five? Yes, sir, well you 3274 02:45:47.680 --> 02:45:50.760 have I mean you would be like a perfect five, right, 3275 02:45:50.799 --> 02:45:54.200 It would be like the completion of like something that 3276 02:45:54.319 --> 02:45:57.719 you've done, maybe to do some greater thing, because you 3277 02:45:57.760 --> 02:45:59.799 always want to try and go up to seven. That's 3278 02:45:59.840 --> 02:46:03.079 the idea. So you use like maybe a launching pad. 3279 02:46:04.319 --> 02:46:06.680 That'd be a good date for like some the new venture, 3280 02:46:06.920 --> 02:46:07.399 you could say. 3281 02:46:08.600 --> 02:46:13.280 Yeah, So so that's uh. 3282 02:46:13.760 --> 02:46:16.479 That former estate there you see now is the clubhouse 3283 02:46:16.520 --> 02:46:20.200 of the Trump National Bedminster golf Course and the Prime Residency. 3284 02:46:20.360 --> 02:46:23.399 Trump calls it his summer white House Prime Residency that 3285 02:46:23.479 --> 02:46:25.079 he established there in his first term. 3286 02:46:25.159 --> 02:46:26.159 Between May and September. 3287 02:46:26.520 --> 02:46:29.000 That's where he normally lives during those months, but I'm 3288 02:46:29.000 --> 02:46:31.399 saying that's that's what he called the summer White House there. 3289 02:46:32.200 --> 02:46:34.079 That house right there used to be John Delauriance. 3290 02:46:34.799 --> 02:46:36.079 So after getting. 3291 02:46:37.920 --> 02:46:39.120 Now, I can't make this ship up. 3292 02:46:39.280 --> 02:46:41.879 It's for all those d m UFO sidings in New Jersey. 3293 02:46:41.959 --> 02:46:44.040 I mean to holler there as well. I'm getting a 3294 02:46:44.079 --> 02:46:45.879 little a little too wild there. And this is where 3295 02:46:45.879 --> 02:46:48.920 all those UFO sidings in New Jersey were over Trump's 3296 02:46:49.639 --> 02:46:52.040 over Delaurian's property, which is now Trump's property. 3297 02:46:52.799 --> 02:46:53.680 Are you serious? 3298 02:46:54.479 --> 02:46:56.319 Right right over right over it? 3299 02:46:56.799 --> 02:46:58.879 Not all sidings. 3300 02:46:59.440 --> 02:47:01.840 Well those there's weird drone starting. There was a high 3301 02:47:01.879 --> 02:47:04.520 concentration of them in New Jersey. They were going over Bedminster, 3302 02:47:04.760 --> 02:47:07.440 the former property of Do Lore in the current property 3303 02:47:07.479 --> 02:47:07.840 of Trump. 3304 02:47:08.719 --> 02:47:09.040 Wow. 3305 02:47:11.000 --> 02:47:13.239 Yeah, it was weird. 3306 02:47:14.719 --> 02:47:16.479 So it makes numbers. 3307 02:47:17.479 --> 02:47:19.719 What's that gen? It makes sense to what the numbers. 3308 02:47:19.559 --> 02:47:22.319 Something that like Heidi always says like there's some they're 3309 02:47:22.360 --> 02:47:24.959 playing with angels. That's that's exactly what it is, and 3310 02:47:25.079 --> 02:47:28.280 that like or they or they're playing with going away 3311 02:47:28.639 --> 02:47:31.040 like an angel like how the movie describes. 3312 02:47:31.559 --> 02:47:32.319 It's like the same. 3313 02:47:32.840 --> 02:47:34.680 It's like two different ideas like do you believe in 3314 02:47:34.719 --> 02:47:36.559 the other power or do you believe in the self 3315 02:47:36.600 --> 02:47:38.600 power exactly what Heidi said. I'm just us seeing a 3316 02:47:38.639 --> 02:47:41.719 different way to describe it. So it's exactly, do you 3317 02:47:41.840 --> 02:47:43.959 believe in the angels or do you believe in yourself? 3318 02:47:44.479 --> 02:47:48.360 There's two different schools of thinking, two different factions. So 3319 02:47:49.079 --> 02:47:52.280 that that's an interesting idea because it's like the Trump 3320 02:47:52.360 --> 02:47:55.639 connection is really interesting. The just all of this, it's 3321 02:47:55.719 --> 02:47:59.280 just so fascinating, Like the whole film is like very 3322 02:48:00.159 --> 02:48:04.280 much deeper than its outer presentation. And maybe that's also 3323 02:48:04.959 --> 02:48:09.719 like a credit to its success because it it it's 3324 02:48:09.840 --> 02:48:12.600 not like, you know, sometimes the magical works, they work 3325 02:48:12.639 --> 02:48:15.040 and sometimes they don't. That's kind of the idea. Someday 3326 02:48:15.120 --> 02:48:18.360 sometimes they are successful and bear fruit and sometimes they don't. 3327 02:48:18.879 --> 02:48:21.840 But like this film sort of bears endless fruit in 3328 02:48:21.920 --> 02:48:25.799 a way, very double ages. That's right, because it kind 3329 02:48:25.840 --> 02:48:29.120 of like it keeps Michael J. Fox perpetually famous, even 3330 02:48:29.159 --> 02:48:33.440 though he retired like twenty years ago. He's perpetually he'll 3331 02:48:33.520 --> 02:48:37.719 be famous long after he's like an old man because 3332 02:48:37.760 --> 02:48:38.360 of this film. 3333 02:48:39.360 --> 02:48:42.799 Yeah, it's definitely not because of Teen Wolf. I'm telling 3334 02:48:42.879 --> 02:48:48.719 you that right now. I I'm just saying to the 3335 02:48:48.959 --> 02:48:54.159 back to the Future is is like what saled him 3336 02:48:54.239 --> 02:48:55.479 off into infamy. 3337 02:48:56.079 --> 02:48:56.479 Oh it does. 3338 02:48:56.719 --> 02:48:59.479 It doesn't compare between the city and doesn't compare. It's 3339 02:48:59.520 --> 02:49:00.319 still a fine film. 3340 02:49:00.879 --> 02:49:04.600 You do find the FBI informant on the Dolorean case thing. 3341 02:49:05.440 --> 02:49:07.920 His last name was Hoffman, which made me giggle. 3342 02:49:08.159 --> 02:49:11.159 Oh well, that's yeah, I've dug into that dude's past. 3343 02:49:11.200 --> 02:49:13.239 He was doing some I ran conscience spelling for the 3344 02:49:13.280 --> 02:49:15.120 FEDS and the DA back in the mid seventies. 3345 02:49:15.239 --> 02:49:16.680 That's how he became an informant. 3346 02:49:16.760 --> 02:49:18.760 So I got a lot to unpack with that because 3347 02:49:18.799 --> 02:49:21.040 I got some cocaine Bob connections involved in that mixt 3348 02:49:21.120 --> 02:49:21.559 month Oh. 3349 02:49:21.520 --> 02:49:25.120 Boy, topic for a different day, Yeah, for sure, for 3350 02:49:25.239 --> 02:49:25.840 a different day. 3351 02:49:26.840 --> 02:49:30.239 The well, cocaine, like you olays say, JJ, cocaine seems 3352 02:49:30.239 --> 02:49:33.399 to drive a lot of these kinds of protects, and 3353 02:49:33.559 --> 02:49:36.600 coin is a very mercurial substance, like if you were 3354 02:49:36.680 --> 02:49:39.159 to mop it out in Kabala, would be a very 3355 02:49:39.239 --> 02:49:41.799 hard substance because it requires fire from government. 3356 02:49:44.879 --> 02:49:46.840 No don't you ain't kidding. I mean that's for sure. 3357 02:49:46.920 --> 02:49:50.559 So uh, we can transition here on the fifteen and 3358 02:49:50.600 --> 02:49:53.520 who is based on Donald Trump as the man who 3359 02:49:53.600 --> 02:49:56.360 was owning the owner now of the old Dolorian estate, 3360 02:49:56.440 --> 02:50:00.319 the five hundred and thirty five acre estate formerly as 3361 02:50:00.959 --> 02:50:04.399 as the delarey In Estate. Again, it's a fantastic place. 3362 02:50:04.479 --> 02:50:07.879 The Summer White House where Trump uh trump uh. In fact, 3363 02:50:08.399 --> 02:50:11.239 moments after he left Pennsylvania there in July was at 3364 02:50:11.280 --> 02:50:14.520 fourteenth twenty twenty four, when he got the assassination attempted 3365 02:50:14.559 --> 02:50:15.120 Butler Pa. 3366 02:50:15.600 --> 02:50:19.840 He went directly to his Badminster property, the same. 3367 02:50:21.920 --> 02:50:25.799 He likes. He likes that place. Maybe the fallen angels 3368 02:50:25.879 --> 02:50:27.920 held his ear there, you go. 3369 02:50:28.760 --> 02:50:31.079 Maybe the drone UFO aliens got him, maybe they helped 3370 02:50:31.120 --> 02:50:34.479 him out them in JFK Junior. 3371 02:50:36.239 --> 02:50:38.040 You know, there was somebody who showed that those things 3372 02:50:38.079 --> 02:50:40.239 like flew out like right near like a Boeing plan. 3373 02:50:42.079 --> 02:50:42.319 Yeah. 3374 02:50:42.920 --> 02:50:45.719 No, for sure, there's some weird stuff. I mean, it 3375 02:50:45.840 --> 02:50:47.479 was all hot news and then now it's not, and 3376 02:50:47.719 --> 02:50:49.840 no one really explained it. It was shining, it was Iran, 3377 02:50:49.959 --> 02:50:52.200 it was nothing, it was ours. I mean, I mean, 3378 02:50:52.239 --> 02:50:54.200 I think that's all part of a distraction from whatever 3379 02:50:54.319 --> 02:50:56.239 what it really was right in which we don't really 3380 02:50:56.280 --> 02:50:59.760 know and did it didn't not? Again, it was over 3381 02:51:00.200 --> 02:51:02.079 over different parts of New Jersey, but there was a 3382 02:51:02.200 --> 02:51:05.680 pocket where the concentration was for weeks. Donald Trump did 3383 02:51:05.719 --> 02:51:07.760 a press conference about it during the election and during 3384 02:51:07.799 --> 02:51:10.120 his campaign, like, you know, someone really needs to check 3385 02:51:10.159 --> 02:51:12.600 this out. I've had these drones over my property for 3386 02:51:12.680 --> 02:51:14.680 two weeks. This seems to be a national security issue 3387 02:51:14.760 --> 02:51:15.040 or something. 3388 02:51:15.079 --> 02:51:16.079 He says, so. 3389 02:51:19.079 --> 02:51:20.319 Very very wild stuff. 3390 02:51:20.319 --> 02:51:23.280 If you asked me so, Bif Tanner, based on Donald 3391 02:51:23.319 --> 02:51:26.079 Trump there, what what are your thoughts on him as 3392 02:51:26.120 --> 02:51:26.520 a character. 3393 02:51:29.440 --> 02:51:31.159 Well, he's just a dick. 3394 02:51:32.319 --> 02:51:35.239 He's just that's true. That's true. 3395 02:51:35.280 --> 02:51:38.280 And he's not and he's like the proverbi. He's like 3396 02:51:38.479 --> 02:51:42.079 not even a smart dick. He's just a retarded dick. 3397 02:51:42.600 --> 02:51:45.239 And he's a tree and get. 3398 02:51:45.120 --> 02:51:48.399 Out of here, right, And he's kind of that's right, 3399 02:51:48.520 --> 02:51:50.879 and he's kind of like he's like quantum entangled with 3400 02:51:51.200 --> 02:51:52.079 Marty Wick flies. 3401 02:51:52.319 --> 02:51:57.399 Uh you know, a family tree, right. Yeah, that's just 3402 02:51:57.479 --> 02:52:00.840 like what he said. They have to play each other. 3403 02:52:00.879 --> 02:52:02.239 It's like opposing role. 3404 02:52:02.719 --> 02:52:04.879 Because every time he goes back or forward in time, 3405 02:52:04.959 --> 02:52:06.319 he's got a new biff and he's got a new 3406 02:52:06.319 --> 02:52:06.920 biff to handle. 3407 02:52:07.600 --> 02:52:08.680 Mm hmmm hmm. 3408 02:52:10.479 --> 02:52:14.479 Kind of reminds me of the Butterfly Effect. That's another 3409 02:52:14.600 --> 02:52:19.639 movie I really love, and uh would you say, Nick, 3410 02:52:20.440 --> 02:52:24.559 Oh yeah, no, dude, that that's that could be another 3411 02:52:24.639 --> 02:52:28.520 episode in itself. But it's like every time Marty goes 3412 02:52:28.639 --> 02:52:31.479 back or forward, he gets a new Biff, and it's 3413 02:52:31.559 --> 02:52:34.040 like he's still just as awful as ever, but just 3414 02:52:34.120 --> 02:52:39.079 in different ways. He Butterfly affects him throughout. It's like 3415 02:52:39.200 --> 02:52:42.319 he's still a dick, it's just different variations of what 3416 02:52:42.440 --> 02:52:43.959 kind of dicky is like. 3417 02:52:44.200 --> 02:52:47.760 Through just too McFly. It's to his parents, right, He's 3418 02:52:47.760 --> 02:52:51.360 got a whole thing with the Antagon, this thing with 3419 02:52:51.440 --> 02:52:54.479 George McFly. So he's like he's just the dude. He's 3420 02:52:54.479 --> 02:52:55.840 always there, you know, beefing. 3421 02:52:56.639 --> 02:52:57.200 Mm hmmmm. 3422 02:52:58.760 --> 02:53:01.680 I will say though, in the second movie, the old 3423 02:53:01.840 --> 02:53:06.200 Man Biff is a lot more intelligent than this one 3424 02:53:06.280 --> 02:53:08.799 that we got pulled up because he's like he wants 3425 02:53:08.879 --> 02:53:12.440 to rig the sports and stuff like that, so he 3426 02:53:12.559 --> 02:53:13.719 becomes the billionaire. 3427 02:53:15.600 --> 02:53:17.760 Of course, there's the Masonic nature of Hira a Biff, right, 3428 02:53:17.840 --> 02:53:21.440 Like he was saying before, mm hmmm, Well. 3429 02:53:21.440 --> 02:53:25.559 Isn't there something about like Trump's family being connected with 3430 02:53:25.760 --> 02:53:28.200 Tesla and they were working on some kind of time 3431 02:53:28.319 --> 02:53:29.120 travel thing. 3432 02:53:30.040 --> 02:53:33.079 Like I love that. 3433 02:53:33.520 --> 02:53:37.399 Yeah, so that's to go with so Tesla. 3434 02:53:38.200 --> 02:53:41.559 Uncle John was his understudy, and then you get to 3435 02:53:41.680 --> 02:53:44.200 Van olver Bush and this goes into a hole like 3436 02:53:44.920 --> 02:53:47.079 I'll be short because I've talked way too much tonight. 3437 02:53:47.159 --> 02:53:52.280 But yes, he supposedly possibly got Tesla's papers. However, there's 3438 02:53:52.319 --> 02:53:54.600 an argument whether he ever wrote a paper because he 3439 02:53:54.760 --> 02:53:55.639 memorized everything. 3440 02:53:55.799 --> 02:53:59.879 So it's a little shady there, But that's basically you know, 3441 02:54:00.040 --> 02:54:02.440 they talked mar al Largo and they were looking for something. 3442 02:54:02.600 --> 02:54:04.799 So I'm just saying I don't know. 3443 02:54:04.879 --> 02:54:08.319 I had only heard about it, like on a very 3444 02:54:08.760 --> 02:54:12.440 surface level, that there was something about Trump and Tesla. 3445 02:54:13.000 --> 02:54:16.920 And then if that's true and this character is based 3446 02:54:17.000 --> 02:54:23.200 off of like his archetype, the Trump archetype, it makes 3447 02:54:23.319 --> 02:54:25.399 it would make a lot of sense, especially like in 3448 02:54:25.479 --> 02:54:28.280 the second movie with like the Biff Tower or whatever 3449 02:54:28.600 --> 02:54:30.879 and the sure the weirdness with that. 3450 02:54:31.680 --> 02:54:32.959 No, it's and it's definitely true. 3451 02:54:32.959 --> 02:54:33.159 It was. 3452 02:54:33.280 --> 02:54:37.079 It was, Uh, it was not unclassified for four years, 3453 02:54:37.120 --> 02:54:39.760 but it was a John G. Trump was the top 3454 02:54:39.879 --> 02:54:42.479 physicist in m my tea. He was the longest serving professor, 3455 02:54:42.680 --> 02:54:45.479 you know, and him you will see plenty of interviews 3456 02:54:45.479 --> 02:54:47.760 where Trump talks about his relationship with his uncle. 3457 02:54:48.399 --> 02:54:50.440 Oh, he flexes on that hardcore. 3458 02:54:50.639 --> 02:54:53.799 He's like my uncle John whenever he wants to push 3459 02:54:53.920 --> 02:54:55.319 something and f with everybody. 3460 02:54:55.440 --> 02:54:58.639 He's like my uncle John and his papers. 3461 02:54:59.319 --> 02:55:01.559 He knows the buttons to push, he knows what he's doing. 3462 02:55:02.559 --> 02:55:05.319 I hate to say it, but I give him an 3463 02:55:05.479 --> 02:55:11.479 A plus A plus for disgrace nuclear physicist. He's the 3464 02:55:11.600 --> 02:55:12.719 best you've ever seen. 3465 02:55:13.959 --> 02:55:17.360 And do we know that's that's a good does a 3466 02:55:17.440 --> 02:55:19.879 good trouve opression. But I just want to I just 3467 02:55:19.959 --> 02:55:21.959 wanted to ask if you all any more commentary here 3468 02:55:22.000 --> 02:55:24.840 on Biff before we get too long in the matters. 3469 02:55:25.120 --> 02:55:30.920 Yeah, I do fuck Biff his character and get out 3470 02:55:30.920 --> 02:55:33.639 of here. Yeah, I want I want Biff to make 3471 02:55:33.760 --> 02:55:35.399 like a tree and get out of here. 3472 02:55:36.040 --> 02:55:37.159 Believe well. 3473 02:55:37.280 --> 02:55:39.200 I did think it was funny that they covered him 3474 02:55:39.239 --> 02:55:41.639 in ship, and I do think that the whole darkness 3475 02:55:41.840 --> 02:55:43.239 I could have gone into a whole thing. 3476 02:55:43.319 --> 02:55:44.760 But I talked a lot tonight, so. 3477 02:55:46.600 --> 02:55:50.520 That's good. The ship thing isn't is honest legit interesting 3478 02:55:50.600 --> 02:55:53.360 from a metaphysical perspective because it's kind of it was 3479 02:55:53.440 --> 02:55:57.200 like public humiliation almost. I'm not saying humiliation ritual Nick 3480 02:55:58.600 --> 02:56:02.159 was saying. I'm saying it was like a public humiliation, 3481 02:56:02.440 --> 02:56:05.440 Like it was like he's tard and feathered. He is 3482 02:56:05.479 --> 02:56:09.040 the chicken he has to start again. And Biff is 3483 02:56:09.159 --> 02:56:12.680 never like there's nothing redeemable about him in any of 3484 02:56:12.760 --> 02:56:16.840 the films, in any moment. Like he's not funny, he's 3485 02:56:16.920 --> 02:56:21.399 not charming, he's not like the Trump that we see right. 3486 02:56:21.319 --> 02:56:22.760 Like that he's a rapist. 3487 02:56:23.760 --> 02:56:26.159 Yeah well, yeah, he's an attempted. 3488 02:56:25.959 --> 02:56:30.680 Like assaulter, and he's gigantic like back at like possible 3489 02:56:30.879 --> 02:56:31.879 fallowing angel stuff. 3490 02:56:31.920 --> 02:56:37.840 But like yeah, plus ultra right, like plus Ultra may 3491 02:56:37.840 --> 02:56:41.600 believe that Tesla was like the one magician to follow. 3492 02:56:42.000 --> 02:56:46.959 He was like there, I'm sorry, Heidi, I forget you're 3493 02:56:47.000 --> 02:56:50.239 telling me Jim Yeah, yeah, like, and they're going in 3494 02:56:50.319 --> 02:56:55.200 different directions, different factions, they follow different leaders. One follows Crowley, 3495 02:56:55.319 --> 02:56:59.440 one follows you know, there's the way I don't know well. 3496 02:56:59.479 --> 02:57:02.040 And he has always the people behind him backing him, 3497 02:57:02.159 --> 02:57:04.520 like you know, Trump has had the mob and Cone 3498 02:57:04.600 --> 02:57:07.600 and you know, lots of people that helped him get 3499 02:57:07.639 --> 02:57:08.200 where he is. 3500 02:57:08.399 --> 02:57:11.600 I mean, he came up from the depths of shit, is. 3501 02:57:12.120 --> 02:57:13.000 What you know. 3502 02:57:13.719 --> 02:57:15.520 Well, I'm glad you point out the rape. The rape 3503 02:57:15.559 --> 02:57:17.799 Part two with this character. He's kind of rapil Biff, 3504 02:57:18.040 --> 02:57:22.399 and there is an element to it, right with this 3505 02:57:22.559 --> 02:57:25.000 with his character, but there's an underlying kind of rape 3506 02:57:25.040 --> 02:57:26.879 element to the whole film if you asked me. And 3507 02:57:26.920 --> 02:57:29.719 that was one of the apparent contentions as we mentioned earlier, 3508 02:57:29.799 --> 02:57:32.719 with Crispin Glover not returning to the film there in 3509 02:57:32.799 --> 02:57:35.479 number two and suing them when they use his likeness, 3510 02:57:35.559 --> 02:57:37.280 and he's got a big beef about all those things. 3511 02:57:38.000 --> 02:57:40.360 But that really does kind of there is kind of 3512 02:57:40.399 --> 02:57:43.959 that esoteric understanding to this whole situation based if his 3513 02:57:44.040 --> 02:57:48.879 statements are true, which I'll do a quick recap on that. 3514 02:57:49.040 --> 02:57:55.319 Here we're done with the character of Biff, so on 3515 02:57:55.639 --> 02:57:57.959 crazy days and nights, which you know, take it from 3516 02:57:58.000 --> 02:58:00.120 what you will. This guy's got a lot of had 3517 02:58:00.159 --> 02:58:01.479 a long record of being right on a lot of 3518 02:58:01.520 --> 02:58:06.360 things before it's public this entertainment lawyer fellow, but back 3519 02:58:06.440 --> 02:58:13.399 in twenty eighteen August seventeenth, twenty eighteen, he's discussing the 3520 02:58:13.879 --> 02:58:17.920 why the Crispin Glover and the actress who played Jennifer 3521 02:58:17.959 --> 02:58:19.360 there did not return to the film. 3522 02:58:19.920 --> 02:58:22.600 This actor, who has never probably. 3523 02:58:22.360 --> 02:58:25.760 Eclipsed b plus lists was portrayed as a troublemaker for 3524 02:58:25.840 --> 02:58:29.639 spreading the truth. He was effectively blacklisted by any and 3525 02:58:29.719 --> 02:58:33.040 all people who were friends with the producers. Again, Lucas 3526 02:58:33.120 --> 02:58:36.159 Spielberg semechis, I mean that's most of Hollywood, and the 3527 02:58:36.280 --> 02:58:38.159 entertainment lawyer says, that's seventy five percent. 3528 02:58:39.239 --> 02:58:40.159 That sounds about right. 3529 02:58:40.719 --> 02:58:42.959 There was a group through though, that were not friends 3530 02:58:43.040 --> 02:58:45.239 with those producers, that have kept the actor at least 3531 02:58:45.280 --> 02:58:47.399 earning enough to make a living, and that's accurate. He 3532 02:58:47.440 --> 02:58:50.440 played some bit roles in smaller roles in things including 3533 02:58:50.520 --> 02:58:53.040 the antagonist or the villain, and Charlie's Angels being one 3534 02:58:53.079 --> 02:58:55.000 of the bigger ones that he was offered, you know, 3535 02:58:55.120 --> 02:58:58.040 many years after, you know, back to the future. I 3536 02:58:58.040 --> 02:58:59.920 would say he's a pretty good actor, right, I tend to. 3537 02:59:01.760 --> 02:59:03.559 I love him. I think he's so funny. 3538 02:59:04.600 --> 02:59:06.239 Kind of anoyed it now when he started the Smiling 3539 02:59:06.280 --> 02:59:10.040 Face Killer film by Brendy Stonellis who wrote American Psychode. 3540 02:59:10.040 --> 02:59:14.840 But that's a different story altogether, so it says the 3541 02:59:15.079 --> 02:59:17.000 entertainment tayment lawyer goes on to say, I can't even 3542 02:59:17.040 --> 02:59:18.840 watch the film any longer because of what I know 3543 02:59:19.000 --> 02:59:21.399 what was happening on the set. The actor said the 3544 02:59:21.520 --> 02:59:23.639 multiple bedrooms used in scenes in the film, so the 3545 02:59:23.840 --> 02:59:26.000 scenes from the film would often smell of cigars and 3546 02:59:26.040 --> 02:59:28.760 booze because that is often where the producers would take 3547 02:59:28.799 --> 02:59:31.479 the boys after their tour of the set, and they're 3548 02:59:31.520 --> 02:59:34.840 quote their jan Waite for quote unquote tour of the set. 3549 02:59:35.520 --> 02:59:38.000 Our actor also says that every other actor on that 3550 02:59:38.120 --> 02:59:40.520 film set knew what was going on, but they valued 3551 02:59:40.520 --> 02:59:42.399 their careers more than the horrors taking place. 3552 02:59:43.479 --> 02:59:47.200 So that's why apparently those two decided not to leave. Again, 3553 02:59:47.280 --> 02:59:48.600 this was made by you. 3554 02:59:48.799 --> 02:59:51.280 We were mentioning the Steven Spielberg gets ambling entertainment, so 3555 02:59:51.360 --> 02:59:53.680 he was in charge of this operation along with Zemecchus 3556 02:59:54.479 --> 02:59:56.760 and Lucas wasn't nessiately involved, but he's you know, he's 3557 02:59:56.760 --> 02:59:57.600 part of their same. 3558 02:59:57.520 --> 02:59:58.159 Mixed with these guys. 3559 02:59:58.159 --> 03:00:01.399 I don't know where he was necessarily, but I'm just 3560 03:00:01.440 --> 03:00:03.559 saying they socially speaking, they were probably hanging out still 3561 03:00:03.600 --> 03:00:06.440 even while the film was going right. But you know, 3562 03:00:06.479 --> 03:00:08.920 it's a very very odd environment. We see Crispin Glover, 3563 03:00:09.120 --> 03:00:10.760 I got a quick clip to show you kind of 3564 03:00:10.840 --> 03:00:12.639 how he feels about this stuff today. 3565 03:00:13.879 --> 03:00:16.840 I did not do anything illegal, Bob Gail did something legal. 3566 03:00:17.000 --> 03:00:18.840 We didn't do anything that was illegal. 3567 03:00:19.120 --> 03:00:22.159 In the ever twisting corridors of Hollywood history, one of 3568 03:00:22.239 --> 03:00:25.879 tinsel Town's most intriguing tales is the legal drama surrounding 3569 03:00:25.959 --> 03:00:28.440 Crispin Glover and Back to the Future Part two. 3570 03:00:31.639 --> 03:00:33.719 So obviously he's talking about using his likeness where he 3571 03:00:33.760 --> 03:00:36.479 fantasy sued them and was successful in that effort, and 3572 03:00:36.520 --> 03:00:38.639 that was kind of a landmark issue. But with the 3573 03:00:38.719 --> 03:00:41.799 anger in Visrael you see Crispin Glover in an interview 3574 03:00:41.840 --> 03:00:44.559 from recent years. I think it's rooted more in that 3575 03:00:44.719 --> 03:00:47.479 letter you were talking about it earlier, Julia, which is hmmm. 3576 03:00:47.719 --> 03:00:49.479 I will include in the show notes. But I had 3577 03:00:49.479 --> 03:00:51.840 to go back to locate. I had to go back 3578 03:00:51.840 --> 03:00:52.760 to the way back machine. 3579 03:00:53.479 --> 03:00:54.000 Mm hmmm. 3580 03:00:54.280 --> 03:00:57.479 Yeah. I mean it's it's buried. And he talks about 3581 03:00:57.879 --> 03:01:00.319 Steven Spielberg on. 3582 03:01:02.200 --> 03:01:05.440 He goes, He goes, he goes pretty, he goes pretty 3583 03:01:05.479 --> 03:01:06.319 tough on Spielberg. 3584 03:01:06.360 --> 03:01:09.600 Here, doesn't he Yeah, he does, he does, he does, 3585 03:01:09.719 --> 03:01:10.000 he does. 3586 03:01:10.120 --> 03:01:12.959 If you ever saw the picture of Steven Spielberg with 3587 03:01:13.200 --> 03:01:15.799 the little Poultergeist girl on his lap, you will have 3588 03:01:15.959 --> 03:01:24.159 no questions, right right, And she died like a bell obstruction. Yeah, 3589 03:01:25.000 --> 03:01:29.360 that's what they said. That's what they said. It makes 3590 03:01:29.639 --> 03:01:33.559 sense if there was traumatic injury there where she couldn't Yeah. 3591 03:01:33.360 --> 03:01:37.600 But they said that she that she had like a 3592 03:01:37.760 --> 03:01:41.799 congested colon and that way that she got backed up, 3593 03:01:41.840 --> 03:01:46.719 and that's what But it's like, come on, now, I agree. 3594 03:01:46.440 --> 03:01:49.600 And I and Steven Spielberg got so many dark tails. 3595 03:01:49.600 --> 03:01:51.120 I was, you know, I was going to say, maybe 3596 03:01:51.159 --> 03:01:53.920 we'll have to discuss that one, you know, collectively here 3597 03:01:53.959 --> 03:01:54.879 in the future, because I think we. 3598 03:01:54.879 --> 03:01:55.159 All have some. 3599 03:01:55.559 --> 03:02:01.440 But it sounds like well, when I think it's verymore, well, 3600 03:02:01.600 --> 03:02:02.680 the hold on when I think of well, and I 3601 03:02:02.719 --> 03:02:03.639 think it's Drew Barrymore. 3602 03:02:03.719 --> 03:02:08.799 This is also my same reaction Scott Drew Barrymore was 3603 03:02:08.840 --> 03:02:11.399 doing coke and drinking at Studio fifty three nine. 3604 03:02:11.799 --> 03:02:13.600 I mean, yeah, I don't know, I Spielberg was there, 3605 03:02:13.680 --> 03:02:17.200 but some of their characters and somebody old Donald. 3606 03:02:16.959 --> 03:02:20.239 Trump, right, yeah, some girls person was there for sure. 3607 03:02:20.280 --> 03:02:23.440 She This is this is the era of when Roe 3608 03:02:23.479 --> 03:02:26.639 boy conees basically running Studio fifty four because the owners 3609 03:02:26.680 --> 03:02:29.520 are so in debt to him for legal services to 3610 03:02:29.559 --> 03:02:31.239 stay out of jail and keep the place open that 3611 03:02:31.319 --> 03:02:33.440 he's kind of running that spot by that point. 3612 03:02:33.559 --> 03:02:34.079 Oh yeah. 3613 03:02:34.319 --> 03:02:36.719 The only reason I bring her up is because a 3614 03:02:36.840 --> 03:02:40.920 fire starter in et both Steven Spielberg. 3615 03:02:41.200 --> 03:02:42.079 Right, And that's what I'm saying. 3616 03:02:42.120 --> 03:02:44.959 They got up seventy eight back there Studio fifty four 3617 03:02:45.159 --> 03:02:47.680 on some coke and some benzos and some alcohol and whatnot. 3618 03:02:47.719 --> 03:02:51.719 By the time she met Spielberg, he was like, He's like, yep, Jack. 3619 03:02:51.600 --> 03:02:56.799 Thought, mm hmmmmm, sad do you have? 3620 03:02:57.639 --> 03:02:59.920 That was really good? By the way the clip played, 3621 03:03:01.159 --> 03:03:01.920 the clip. 3622 03:03:03.559 --> 03:03:07.280 I enjoyed, it was better without the sound I think 3623 03:03:07.360 --> 03:03:07.600 that was. 3624 03:03:08.120 --> 03:03:09.600 I think Julian narrating it was. 3625 03:03:11.719 --> 03:03:12.159 Thank you. 3626 03:03:12.319 --> 03:03:13.239 I appreciate that. 3627 03:03:13.479 --> 03:03:14.280 I appreciate that. 3628 03:03:15.719 --> 03:03:17.440 Let me make one more note on it. We'll go ahead, 3629 03:03:17.520 --> 03:03:17.840 go ahead. 3630 03:03:18.399 --> 03:03:20.479 Oh, I was gonna say I had I had just 3631 03:03:20.600 --> 03:03:24.120 a funny pop culture reference to Back to the Future. 3632 03:03:24.200 --> 03:03:30.040 You guys might remember, did have you guys watched Knocked Up. 3633 03:03:30.639 --> 03:03:34.840 It's it's got like seth rogen and what's her face 3634 03:03:34.959 --> 03:03:38.799 in it? Where she gets pregnant and whatever. Paul Redd 3635 03:03:38.879 --> 03:03:42.879 is in it and they go to like this dinner whatever, 3636 03:03:43.239 --> 03:03:45.559 and Paul Rudd is like, you know, if Doc Brown 3637 03:03:45.680 --> 03:03:48.479 screeched up in the Dolorean right now, would you go 3638 03:03:48.639 --> 03:03:51.399 back and put a condom on Ben's stick? And they 3639 03:03:51.559 --> 03:03:54.639 act like Catherine Heigel and the other chick don't know 3640 03:03:54.760 --> 03:03:56.559 what Back to the Future is. They were like, you 3641 03:03:56.639 --> 03:04:01.319 don't know who Doc Brown is? And I was, fuck yeah, 3642 03:04:01.360 --> 03:04:04.079 I was like, who the fuck wouldn't know what back 3643 03:04:04.159 --> 03:04:06.879 to the Like, I'm not believing that for a fucking 3644 03:04:07.000 --> 03:04:09.399 second that they didn't know what Back to the Future was. 3645 03:04:10.159 --> 03:04:12.680 But that's a good example of how culturally impactful this 3646 03:04:12.760 --> 03:04:13.879 has been, right m. 3647 03:04:15.600 --> 03:04:19.159 Yeah, yeah, for sure. I just mentioned that because I 3648 03:04:19.319 --> 03:04:21.479 watched that movie the other day and then you asked 3649 03:04:21.520 --> 03:04:23.120 me to do this and I was like, dude, everybody 3650 03:04:23.200 --> 03:04:24.639 loves Back to the Future. 3651 03:04:24.479 --> 03:04:28.239 Right, So well, I mean, I don't know if Christin 3652 03:04:28.239 --> 03:04:31.200 Glover does, but I do love the film. I know, 3653 03:04:31.440 --> 03:04:33.079 I know what you mean. I know what you mean. 3654 03:04:33.520 --> 03:04:35.639 So on this nature though, of this Christin Glover and 3655 03:04:35.719 --> 03:04:39.920 Spielberg situations and the parent k deuling situations, there's in 3656 03:04:40.000 --> 03:04:42.360 the rapist you know, rape ee qualities of old beif 3657 03:04:42.399 --> 03:04:44.559 Tainn and you know there's a there's a nature of 3658 03:04:44.639 --> 03:04:47.559 again still underlying this film that continues to perpetrate these 3659 03:04:47.600 --> 03:04:49.680 same ideas. If you ask me and I'll play this 3660 03:04:49.719 --> 03:04:51.000 clip to demonstrate that point. 3661 03:04:54.600 --> 03:05:00.479 It's mocause it bear you. 3662 03:05:00.600 --> 03:05:02.200 Know that sounds. 3663 03:05:04.079 --> 03:05:04.319 To me. 3664 03:05:08.959 --> 03:05:11.760 So that cousin obviously being Chuck Berry. The song that 3665 03:05:11.920 --> 03:05:15.040 old Johnny Be Good that Michael J. Fox was playing 3666 03:05:15.079 --> 03:05:17.600 right so in a Forest Gump effect. And another is 3667 03:05:17.680 --> 03:05:20.200 some Becca style there he events the song Johnny Be Good. 3668 03:05:22.040 --> 03:05:25.639 Yeah, Chuck Berry infamous for the Taco bellfarts. 3669 03:05:26.559 --> 03:05:29.479 Uh well, that's that's only later in his life, maam. 3670 03:05:29.559 --> 03:05:31.799 He has a lot of accolades in this nature previous 3671 03:05:31.840 --> 03:05:32.000 to that. 3672 03:05:32.319 --> 03:05:35.159 If you will, I'll never forget that after you told 3673 03:05:35.239 --> 03:05:37.799 me that I can't even drive past the Taco bell 3674 03:05:37.879 --> 03:05:39.200 without playing Johnny be Good. 3675 03:05:39.760 --> 03:05:42.879 There you go, yep, that's why I bellfarts. 3676 03:05:43.840 --> 03:05:46.040 So Chuck Berry was convicted under the Main Act in 3677 03:05:46.079 --> 03:05:48.719 nineteen fifty nine for transporting a fourteen year old girl 3678 03:05:48.799 --> 03:05:52.760 across state lines for the purposes of prostitutions or sexual exploitation. 3679 03:05:53.760 --> 03:05:55.440 The record company is the one who got him out 3680 03:05:55.440 --> 03:05:57.600 of prison, so, which is kind of funny. So he's 3681 03:05:57.600 --> 03:06:00.280 a convicted sex offender. And then in nineteen seven too 3682 03:06:00.360 --> 03:06:03.280 he records this song tours Nashally on number one hit 3683 03:06:03.319 --> 03:06:07.719 on the billboards. My dangling. That's kind of weird. 3684 03:06:09.000 --> 03:06:09.520 So then. 3685 03:06:11.200 --> 03:06:13.040 So then in nineteen ninety two, he gets rated for 3686 03:06:13.120 --> 03:06:15.799 all sorts of drugs in Saint Louis, which becomes in 3687 03:06:16.680 --> 03:06:19.479 another incident later as Julia he just pointed out. And 3688 03:06:19.600 --> 03:06:22.600 in this incident, the uh, they raid his home there 3689 03:06:22.600 --> 03:06:24.639 in Saint Louis, and he they raid a bunch of 3690 03:06:24.719 --> 03:06:27.719 videotapes the later get leaked to tabloids of him farting 3691 03:06:27.760 --> 03:06:30.680 in Hooker's mouse. Apparently that was his favorite thing to do, 3692 03:06:30.840 --> 03:06:32.200 higher Hooker and then fart. 3693 03:06:32.040 --> 03:06:32.559 In her mouth. 3694 03:06:33.959 --> 03:06:36.840 So he would and then he would so you know, 3695 03:06:36.879 --> 03:06:40.079 he would later be arrested for for payoff a lot 3696 03:06:40.159 --> 03:06:42.000 of women in civil lawsuits. I don't know if they 3697 03:06:42.079 --> 03:06:45.520 think they dropped the criminal charges for installing video cameras 3698 03:06:45.559 --> 03:06:48.479 and the toilets of women's bathrooms, of the Taco Bells 3699 03:06:48.479 --> 03:06:51.079 and Kfcson he owned about, you know, a couple dozen, 3700 03:06:51.120 --> 03:06:51.520 I believe. 3701 03:06:53.520 --> 03:06:56.799 So Chuck Berry kind of was, I mean, he hadn't 3702 03:06:56.840 --> 03:06:59.399 got he'd been you know, he was, Oh, he's just 3703 03:06:59.440 --> 03:07:01.280 like fuck, but you know he was. He was convicted 3704 03:07:01.319 --> 03:07:03.399 of the Manx stuff at that point, and then weird 3705 03:07:03.440 --> 03:07:04.879 that he did the whole dangling thing. 3706 03:07:04.840 --> 03:07:07.040 But that you know, it was after it was after 3707 03:07:07.079 --> 03:07:08.520 the back to the future stuff they got on for 3708 03:07:08.639 --> 03:07:10.799 the part the hooker's mouse, which is not obviously not 3709 03:07:10.920 --> 03:07:13.600 the charge, but it's so ridiculous. And then you know 3710 03:07:13.680 --> 03:07:15.280 then of course the camera stuff I think was more 3711 03:07:15.319 --> 03:07:16.719 like nineteen ninety eight or ninety nine. 3712 03:07:17.680 --> 03:07:22.120 Well, you want a full circle movement? 3713 03:07:22.520 --> 03:07:22.799 Please? 3714 03:07:22.879 --> 03:07:25.920 Do you remember I said nobody gets out of this 3715 03:07:26.000 --> 03:07:30.840 place without farting in my mouth? The adventures in babysitting, so. 3716 03:07:31.120 --> 03:07:33.920 Adventures in leaving the stage unless you play the blues. 3717 03:07:34.280 --> 03:07:37.120 Right, but adventures in babysitting and back to the future 3718 03:07:37.200 --> 03:07:38.879 to Elizabeth Shoe. 3719 03:07:39.920 --> 03:07:43.879 Oh shit, you're right, yep, you are correct man. 3720 03:07:43.920 --> 03:07:45.360 That's a full circle moment. 3721 03:07:45.479 --> 03:07:47.079 That is full that is full circle. 3722 03:07:47.120 --> 03:07:48.520 And if I, if I may close this, if anyone 3723 03:07:48.559 --> 03:07:50.159 else has any other commentary here, we we'll do some 3724 03:07:50.280 --> 03:07:51.239 closing statements. 3725 03:07:51.280 --> 03:07:53.399 But I want to kind of go full circle here 3726 03:07:53.440 --> 03:07:55.159 myself here with going. 3727 03:07:55.079 --> 03:07:57.959 Back to the future on some operations GCD shows relative 3728 03:07:58.000 --> 03:08:00.760 to these topics here, relative to the care for biftaining, 3729 03:08:01.399 --> 03:08:04.079 the you know Jnald Trump, who was you know that 3730 03:08:04.239 --> 03:08:06.959 based on biftaining kind of the predictive programming natures of 3731 03:08:07.040 --> 03:08:09.559 that stuff, and the fact that he's connected to the 3732 03:08:09.600 --> 03:08:10.479 Delirium property. 3733 03:08:10.479 --> 03:08:11.920 I find it all very fascinating. 3734 03:08:12.040 --> 03:08:15.200 So we'll do some closing stuff here after this clip 3735 03:08:15.239 --> 03:08:17.360 if I just want to go back to the future 3736 03:08:17.399 --> 03:08:19.799 here on this one and go full circle as you 3737 03:08:19.920 --> 03:08:56.559 were just saying there, Julia. So that's some interesting aspects. 3738 03:08:56.600 --> 03:08:59.079 You know, Danny does use the casino money and shakes 3739 03:08:59.120 --> 03:09:02.280 out the Republican part in the movie. Did almost get 3740 03:09:02.440 --> 03:09:05.879 right the winning the Chicago Cubs winning the World Series? 3741 03:09:05.959 --> 03:09:06.079 Right? 3742 03:09:06.879 --> 03:09:09.600 They were off by year, were well, they were off 3743 03:09:09.639 --> 03:09:12.879 by year. They won in twenty sixteen. They were in 3744 03:09:12.959 --> 03:09:15.920 twenty sixteen. So well, that's what I'm saying. It's creepy enough, right, 3745 03:09:16.000 --> 03:09:19.840 And that whole incident of the Cubs winning the World Series, 3746 03:09:20.520 --> 03:09:23.200 that incident's real creepy to me. So it was called 3747 03:09:23.239 --> 03:09:26.520 the Curse of the Goat. Was this was this Curse 3748 03:09:26.559 --> 03:09:28.079 of the Goat was like one of the most infamous 3749 03:09:28.559 --> 03:09:33.399 curses and in any major sports, right, haunting the Cubs 3750 03:09:33.440 --> 03:09:36.799 for nearly one hundred years. Well, the folks that are 3751 03:09:36.879 --> 03:09:39.399 credited for breaking the Curse of the Goat is the 3752 03:09:39.799 --> 03:09:45.600 Revisa Sports Hypnosis and sports psychotherapist. Family family business as 3753 03:09:45.719 --> 03:09:54.600 in Buffalo Jerre. Yeah, that man my former stocker. He 3754 03:09:55.120 --> 03:09:56.959 his dad and uncle. He was actually part of the 3755 03:09:57.000 --> 03:10:00.639 family business too, were the folks who broke the Curse 3756 03:10:00.719 --> 03:10:04.360 of the Goat. The Chicago Cubs officially recognized Ken Revisa 3757 03:10:04.799 --> 03:10:06.680 as the person who broke the Curse of the Goat. 3758 03:10:07.600 --> 03:10:10.559 So that aspect of the Back to the Future series, 3759 03:10:11.479 --> 03:10:12.639 it's a little close to home. 3760 03:10:13.600 --> 03:10:15.520 What if the come thing was a year and a day, 3761 03:10:17.520 --> 03:10:20.600 like it was like like an HGA ritual, Like it 3762 03:10:20.760 --> 03:10:24.920 was like intentionally off by a year. It was like 3763 03:10:25.000 --> 03:10:27.079 to it was like to, I don't know that that 3764 03:10:27.120 --> 03:10:28.559 would be a funny little game. 3765 03:10:29.440 --> 03:10:31.399 I enjoy your perspective on these things because it's not 3766 03:10:31.680 --> 03:10:34.000 it's totally unique from what I what I look at things. 3767 03:10:34.079 --> 03:10:39.239 So I like, like we were saying, so, I appreciate it. 3768 03:10:39.399 --> 03:10:41.280 I appreciate you all join me here tonight to gold 3769 03:10:41.360 --> 03:10:44.319 GCD and discussed this occult and esoteric review of the 3770 03:10:44.440 --> 03:10:47.600 nineteen eighty five cinematic masterpiece Back to the Future. And 3771 03:10:47.639 --> 03:10:50.319 I appreciate the folks with the interwebs staying with us. 3772 03:10:50.399 --> 03:10:52.760 We got we folks seem to be enjoying the conversation. 3773 03:10:52.799 --> 03:10:54.799 I know, I am so like to go on a 3774 03:10:54.879 --> 03:10:57.559 round table here and uh give everyone you know, any 3775 03:10:57.600 --> 03:11:00.079 closing statements, any plugs you want to do by on 3776 03:11:00.159 --> 03:11:00.719 me to take. 3777 03:11:00.520 --> 03:11:04.760 Your time, not trying to rush anybody, but you know who. 3778 03:11:05.120 --> 03:11:07.440 Well I'll start off with Heidi, since you're down there 3779 03:11:07.440 --> 03:11:08.840 in the bottom right, let's start down there. 3780 03:11:09.840 --> 03:11:11.840 Well, thank you so much for putting up with me tonight, 3781 03:11:11.879 --> 03:11:14.360 you guys, I'm I nerd it out. I'm so sorry. 3782 03:11:14.840 --> 03:11:16.520 Good me too. 3783 03:11:16.559 --> 03:11:18.719 I was Yeah, it was fun. 3784 03:11:18.840 --> 03:11:19.639 I love the show. 3785 03:11:19.799 --> 03:11:21.959 I love I love the second one almost as much. 3786 03:11:22.120 --> 03:11:25.120 So it was just at this series right. 3787 03:11:25.840 --> 03:11:30.360 Yes, always always a great time to rejects. And anytime 3788 03:11:30.399 --> 03:11:31.959 I can come on and be on a show with 3789 03:11:32.040 --> 03:11:36.360 JJ is amazing. So thank you, guys, you ma'am, thank you, 3790 03:11:36.479 --> 03:11:39.920 Thank you. Find me anywhere podcasts are served unfiltered rise 3791 03:11:40.000 --> 03:11:42.680 podcast dot com. I also know if you watch me 3792 03:11:42.760 --> 03:11:46.079 on YouTube it's only once a week drop versus twice 3793 03:11:46.639 --> 03:11:49.799 or more on Spotify, just because they dig me so much. 3794 03:11:49.879 --> 03:11:51.760 Love to all of you, thank you for watching. 3795 03:11:54.959 --> 03:11:55.319 Julia. 3796 03:11:55.479 --> 03:11:58.040 Appreciate you joining us, ma'am as always, since I forgot 3797 03:11:58.079 --> 03:11:59.840 about you joining us in Golden Child, I'm glad you 3798 03:12:00.079 --> 03:12:02.440 make it back around too. We'll have to do a 3799 03:12:02.600 --> 03:12:06.600 non occult necessary review and talk to some other parapolitics 3800 03:12:07.000 --> 03:12:09.040 as we often cross over in a lot of our 3801 03:12:09.120 --> 03:12:11.719 ideas and subjects we we enjoy, not not the least 3802 03:12:11.760 --> 03:12:12.879 of which Tuesday Wild. 3803 03:12:13.680 --> 03:12:15.680 Hey, you know what would be a nice follow up 3804 03:12:15.760 --> 03:12:19.079 to Tuesday Weld. We we could really throw down on JFK. 3805 03:12:19.319 --> 03:12:24.159 Junior because that's another one of my faiths that I'm doing. 3806 03:12:24.159 --> 03:12:26.079 Kids once again. 3807 03:12:26.200 --> 03:12:27.799 Once again, Like I said, a lot of cross every 3808 03:12:27.959 --> 03:12:30.079 You may have well just read my mind because Heidi 3809 03:12:30.120 --> 03:12:32.159 and I were on the Sixth sens Since a Sixth 3810 03:12:32.200 --> 03:12:35.079 Sensory podcast last night, and I came to the revelation 3811 03:12:35.200 --> 03:12:38.239 when we were talking Society of Cincinnati that JFK. Junior 3812 03:12:38.360 --> 03:12:41.520 was likely a dual member of the Society of Cincinnati 3813 03:12:42.479 --> 03:12:44.799 won the French chapter and won the Maryland chapter. And 3814 03:12:44.840 --> 03:12:46.920 that's a longer tail, but it's wow. 3815 03:12:47.239 --> 03:12:50.000 No, yeah, I would. I'd love to pick your guys' 3816 03:12:50.159 --> 03:12:53.559 brain on him, because that's that's another topic I could 3817 03:12:53.639 --> 03:12:55.920 just talk about forever. But thanks so much for having 3818 03:12:56.000 --> 03:12:58.120 me on this one. I love Back to the Future. 3819 03:12:58.120 --> 03:13:00.319 I love the third one. You can skip me on 3820 03:13:00.440 --> 03:13:02.639 the esoteric review of the second one because I think 3821 03:13:02.680 --> 03:13:05.600 it sucks sticks but the first one. In the third one, 3822 03:13:05.920 --> 03:13:06.440 I'm down. 3823 03:13:06.799 --> 03:13:07.680 You think it's garbage. 3824 03:13:07.760 --> 03:13:09.200 Jay, Yeah, I don't like it. 3825 03:13:09.760 --> 03:13:13.639 And you know, it's funny to think where they thought 3826 03:13:13.719 --> 03:13:16.159 we would be in twenty fifteen and we're still just 3827 03:13:16.879 --> 03:13:22.399 lame weirdos. No flying cars, no hoverboards, no self tying shoes. 3828 03:13:22.639 --> 03:13:25.360 I mean, I don't like the second one, but thanks 3829 03:13:25.399 --> 03:13:29.639 so much for having me. This was really fun, Jennie, Heidi, JJ, 3830 03:13:29.879 --> 03:13:32.440 You're all awesome. I love working with you. I think 3831 03:13:32.479 --> 03:13:34.399 we covered a lot of ground on this one. 3832 03:13:37.159 --> 03:13:37.559 For sure. 3833 03:13:38.799 --> 03:13:41.879 Jen greeting, Sir, how about you share some more wizard 3834 03:13:41.959 --> 03:13:46.680 skills with us this evening. I appreciate your your reviewsay, I'm. 3835 03:13:46.559 --> 03:13:48.719 Convinced of it. Man, You've always you're always having some 3836 03:13:48.799 --> 03:13:50.799 wizardry on me, you know. 3837 03:13:50.920 --> 03:13:53.760 I I love to play the hermestissis when I When 3838 03:13:53.799 --> 03:13:57.159 we do wise, it's like Nick already knows. Heidi also knows, 3839 03:13:57.280 --> 03:13:59.719 just because she's like into it like that, but Nick 3840 03:14:00.159 --> 03:14:01.280 he knows because there's that it's him. 3841 03:14:01.319 --> 03:14:01.639 I love. 3842 03:14:02.000 --> 03:14:04.959 It's my favorite thing to play plus Ultron on live. 3843 03:14:05.079 --> 03:14:09.719 So there you go. There's I'm admitting it. No, I 3844 03:14:09.799 --> 03:14:11.879 want to thank you guys obviously, thank you JJ so 3845 03:14:12.000 --> 03:14:13.920 much for inviting me, including me on this year. And 3846 03:14:14.000 --> 03:14:15.920 I know that we get a lot of cool people 3847 03:14:16.040 --> 03:14:18.600 liking my posts about this, so it's like it's it's 3848 03:14:18.639 --> 03:14:21.639 a big it's interesting for me to like see these 3849 03:14:21.680 --> 03:14:23.440 people who I think are like cooler than me and 3850 03:14:23.840 --> 03:14:26.680 they're kind of into it. So that's great. And thank 3851 03:14:26.719 --> 03:14:29.360 you obviously, boss, thank you Nick so much, thank you 3852 03:14:29.479 --> 03:14:32.479 Heidi so much, thank you Julia so much. And I 3853 03:14:32.600 --> 03:14:34.879 just want to say thank you. I want to keep 3854 03:14:34.879 --> 03:14:37.440 it light tonight, but the Carl Wood interview was like 3855 03:14:37.520 --> 03:14:40.040 a really cathartic moment for me. And I just want 3856 03:14:40.120 --> 03:14:43.440 to dedicate this one to my co host for the 3857 03:14:43.520 --> 03:14:47.159 twyement series, Zach Schumer and of course Zach Third Eye 3858 03:14:47.159 --> 03:14:50.319 Homuncula who passed away. So thank you guys so much. 3859 03:14:50.360 --> 03:14:52.600 It meant like a huge, a great deal to me. 3860 03:14:52.799 --> 03:14:56.719 So it's like a really beautiful way to close that chapter. 3861 03:14:57.680 --> 03:14:58.200 Thank you guys. 3862 03:14:59.159 --> 03:15:03.200 Hell yeah, that was awesome. Nick. 3863 03:15:03.280 --> 03:15:05.360 As always, I appreciate your time as always, sir, and 3864 03:15:05.760 --> 03:15:08.319 look forward to our Friday conversation. Come up with as 3865 03:15:08.319 --> 03:15:12.360 always with our cars Fridays together. Yes, yeah, also wait 3866 03:15:12.399 --> 03:15:14.040 the car, But what else? What else your thoughts on 3867 03:15:14.079 --> 03:15:16.079 closing statements tonight and anything else you want to plug? 3868 03:15:16.719 --> 03:15:22.040 Oh well, I think well, first off, I'm thankfully after 3869 03:15:22.200 --> 03:15:25.159 posting it was gonna be the most comprehensive covering of 3870 03:15:25.639 --> 03:15:28.639 Back to the Future. That's what exactly happened. So thank 3871 03:15:28.680 --> 03:15:31.559 you everybody. I think that was amazing. It was three 3872 03:15:31.600 --> 03:15:32.959 hours long. There was a lot, a lot of a 3873 03:15:33.000 --> 03:15:36.319 lot of stuff in there. That's what's saying. Yes, yeah, 3874 03:15:36.520 --> 03:15:40.440 it was. It was called Rejeck style. So and ill 3875 03:15:40.479 --> 03:15:42.200 just one thing I just want to add. I do 3876 03:15:42.399 --> 03:15:44.200 think and I think we've all kind of said it 3877 03:15:44.520 --> 03:15:46.479 as somebody said it earlier. It might have been Julia 3878 03:15:47.879 --> 03:15:50.600 or maybe it was Heidi h I do think if 3879 03:15:50.639 --> 03:15:53.079 you look at everything that we talked about, in my opinion, 3880 03:15:53.319 --> 03:15:56.600 all that stuff is in that movie on purpose. It's 3881 03:15:56.639 --> 03:15:58.879 all been added to the scene. It's all there for 3882 03:15:58.959 --> 03:16:01.639 a reason. I think that the way we all looked 3883 03:16:01.639 --> 03:16:03.920 at it and pretty much came to the same stuff, 3884 03:16:04.840 --> 03:16:06.799 I think you can kind of see that that's the 3885 03:16:07.200 --> 03:16:09.600 choreographed that doesn't happen by Actually, I don't think. 3886 03:16:09.879 --> 03:16:12.479 I mean there it is, JJ you finally found it 3887 03:16:12.639 --> 03:16:13.879 for that yep, to. 3888 03:16:13.959 --> 03:16:16.280 That point you were making it and to Julius Common earlier. 3889 03:16:16.319 --> 03:16:19.440 There you go the opening scene and there's Doc Brown 3890 03:16:19.479 --> 03:16:21.319 hanging from a clock tower in the background of that 3891 03:16:21.440 --> 03:16:22.040 opening scene. 3892 03:16:23.479 --> 03:16:28.680 Everything is on purpose, dude, Every little thing is is 3893 03:16:28.840 --> 03:16:29.479 on purpose. 3894 03:16:30.159 --> 03:16:31.920 Even be bringing this up right now is on purpose. 3895 03:16:31.959 --> 03:16:32.959 I was waiting for this moment. 3896 03:16:35.920 --> 03:16:39.399 I love it. Yeah, man, I love that was on 3897 03:16:39.600 --> 03:16:41.120 the clock it says axis. 3898 03:16:43.120 --> 03:16:48.319 Oh yeah, that's a room too. The kid hanging from anything, 3899 03:16:48.360 --> 03:16:51.680 it's thorn. Actually, I don't really know the rooms. I 3900 03:16:51.760 --> 03:16:52.840 hate the norse stuff. 3901 03:16:53.719 --> 03:17:01.079 You need, Julia. He's even got the same hat on. 3902 03:17:01.280 --> 03:17:02.079 He's got that hat on. 3903 03:17:03.360 --> 03:17:04.760 That's what I'm telling you, dude. 3904 03:17:05.799 --> 03:17:08.440 It's Doc Brown for sure. 3905 03:17:08.639 --> 03:17:09.719 Dude. That's crazy. 3906 03:17:10.399 --> 03:17:12.840 The shadow doesn't match and it's very phallic looking. 3907 03:17:13.000 --> 03:17:17.479 Sorry you're good, no by all means, but I mean 3908 03:17:17.520 --> 03:17:19.200 this is what we're talking about here, right, we're closing 3909 03:17:19.200 --> 03:17:21.760 it out here with exactly This is a great, great 3910 03:17:21.799 --> 03:17:23.399 closing m hmm. 3911 03:17:23.440 --> 03:17:29.559 Looks like the Amazon sign almost right, yeah, dude, Or 3912 03:17:29.719 --> 03:17:32.040 like if you look at it maybe from the side, 3913 03:17:32.120 --> 03:17:35.000 it kind of looks like the whole compass thing I 3914 03:17:35.040 --> 03:17:35.399 don't know. 3915 03:17:35.559 --> 03:17:38.000 Right, right, Well, why is there a pretty aspect to 3916 03:17:38.079 --> 03:17:39.159 a two D object here? 3917 03:17:39.280 --> 03:17:39.440 Right? 3918 03:17:40.680 --> 03:17:41.159 Exactly? 3919 03:17:41.600 --> 03:17:44.239 Well, I think it might be. I think it might 3920 03:17:44.319 --> 03:17:46.079 be three D though I think, like. 3921 03:17:46.200 --> 03:17:48.319 The guy, I thought it was painted on. Okay, no, 3922 03:17:48.479 --> 03:17:48.719 I don't. 3923 03:17:49.399 --> 03:17:50.600 Is this more of that duality? 3924 03:17:51.879 --> 03:17:52.399 Maybe it is. 3925 03:17:55.719 --> 03:17:57.280 I mean I see the shadow. I thought it was 3926 03:17:57.360 --> 03:18:00.479 because it was like as the clockhand moves the little 3927 03:18:00.600 --> 03:18:01.559 values with it. 3928 03:18:01.879 --> 03:18:03.879 You know, you may be right, you may be right. 3929 03:18:03.920 --> 03:18:05.479 I was just viewing his painted on there with that 3930 03:18:05.600 --> 03:18:07.479 kind of shadow of it as well, like the duality 3931 03:18:07.600 --> 03:18:09.360 nature of it's still m. 3932 03:18:09.760 --> 03:18:12.719 Yeah, because the man is he who travels through time. 3933 03:18:13.479 --> 03:18:16.079 It's not it's not someone who's matt right that they're 3934 03:18:16.120 --> 03:18:20.319 out to master traveling, right like they they they they 3935 03:18:20.479 --> 03:18:23.360 solved time travel, They solve that paradox, they solve that 3936 03:18:23.600 --> 03:18:26.280 area between the hill and the valley. That's done. 3937 03:18:26.639 --> 03:18:26.760 Now. 3938 03:18:26.840 --> 03:18:31.399 The next thing is you did is conquer space. It's 3939 03:18:31.479 --> 03:18:33.399 just a metaphor for the whole film. It's like the 3940 03:18:33.840 --> 03:18:35.559 hermetic journey the hero. 3941 03:18:35.760 --> 03:18:38.719 And again and again, my response don't you. 3942 03:18:41.120 --> 03:18:42.159 Again almost innate. 3943 03:18:42.280 --> 03:18:44.479 It's almost like he's trying to hold it back from 3944 03:18:44.520 --> 03:18:47.079 being an eight once again on here. 3945 03:18:47.360 --> 03:18:50.959 Yeah, a lottom it will look like the bottom one 3946 03:18:50.959 --> 03:18:51.920 would be on an eight anyway. 3947 03:18:52.000 --> 03:18:53.760 Right, I was gonna say, I think you have this 3948 03:18:53.920 --> 03:18:54.680 all hands on the eight. 3949 03:18:55.440 --> 03:18:59.799 Yeah, but it's it's not quiet, right, like right, it's. 3950 03:18:59.639 --> 03:19:01.840 Not it's almost it's almost eight am, right, yeah, it's 3951 03:19:01.879 --> 03:19:03.559 seven fifty. 3952 03:19:02.920 --> 03:19:07.200 Four right, So he's holding back time, so there can't 3953 03:19:07.280 --> 03:19:10.959 be a complete, a completeness of infinity. 3954 03:19:11.319 --> 03:19:13.920 Well, I think all those clocks here on that same time, right, 3955 03:19:14.000 --> 03:19:14.920 there's this one, right, is. 3956 03:19:14.959 --> 03:19:18.440 That right, Julie, Yeah, they're all on the same time exactly, 3957 03:19:18.639 --> 03:19:26.159 remember from the phone call exactly twenty five minutes late, right, yeah, 3958 03:19:26.680 --> 03:19:27.239 that's right. 3959 03:19:27.440 --> 03:19:32.479 Okay, nice, nice. Now I don't remember where I was 3960 03:19:32.520 --> 03:19:34.879 going with that before, but I like those points. That's 3961 03:19:34.920 --> 03:19:38.399 good stuff. Oh my response to all this, my response 3962 03:19:38.399 --> 03:19:42.799 to all this, scot There you go. So now I 3963 03:19:42.959 --> 03:19:45.879 I appreciate everyone's time, and uh if I if I 3964 03:19:45.959 --> 03:19:47.760 can offer a couple of quick plugs like I said, 3965 03:19:47.760 --> 03:19:50.959 I got Operation GCD Live Sundays coming up here, eight pm, 3966 03:19:51.520 --> 03:19:53.719 Patreon only with links in the show notes, along with 3967 03:19:53.840 --> 03:19:56.200 links for all of our wonderful guests here in the 3968 03:19:56.200 --> 03:19:59.840 Occult Rejects panel here this evening full blown Occult Rejects panel, 3969 03:19:59.840 --> 03:20:02.760 and uh, I got this Sunday at eight pm Eastern time, 3970 03:20:02.799 --> 03:20:05.719 I got the Curse of Robert the Doll. That's going 3971 03:20:05.799 --> 03:20:07.360 to be a scary one, more so for me than 3972 03:20:07.399 --> 03:20:11.040 anyone else. And then the following Sunday, as I just mentioned, 3973 03:20:11.079 --> 03:20:13.079 the Revisa family and the Curse of the Goat, which 3974 03:20:13.120 --> 03:20:15.239 is a great, great tie in here because I got 3975 03:20:15.920 --> 03:20:18.760 the Legends of Buffalo Jared Revisa. This is my former 3976 03:20:19.399 --> 03:20:22.200 stalker slash almost He wanted me to hire him as 3977 03:20:22.239 --> 03:20:24.520 my pr guy, and then he pretty sure he wanted 3978 03:20:24.520 --> 03:20:26.360 to murder me and wear my skin as a coat 3979 03:20:26.399 --> 03:20:28.920 because he later went out to a multi state killing spree. 3980 03:20:29.000 --> 03:20:31.280 And I think he I suspected some sort of mind 3981 03:20:31.319 --> 03:20:34.399 controlled situation. So that'll be a fun tale again, not 3982 03:20:34.520 --> 03:20:37.600 so much for me, but probably for other people. For 3983 03:20:37.760 --> 03:20:40.799 you just ptsc Yeah, for me, just drudging out some 3984 03:20:40.920 --> 03:20:42.600 nasty memories. But you know, I try to make some 3985 03:20:42.719 --> 03:20:44.159 humor out of it. That's how that's how I get 3986 03:20:44.200 --> 03:20:44.719 by in life. 3987 03:20:45.200 --> 03:20:48.760 He wanted to wear you like an Edgar suit. Yeah, 3988 03:20:48.840 --> 03:20:51.159 he was like he told me to put the lotion 3989 03:20:51.319 --> 03:20:52.959 on the skin, and you know, I was like, wait, 3990 03:20:53.000 --> 03:20:59.120 what's wrang? Yeah, dude, what are you talking about? 3991 03:20:59.159 --> 03:21:02.719 Lotiontting you up so you could hibernate together. 3992 03:21:04.319 --> 03:21:05.559 All right? Right? 3993 03:21:06.280 --> 03:21:08.959 Well, strangely enough, the man he murdered, he actually hired 3994 03:21:09.000 --> 03:21:13.719 him to be his pr rep in. So again, this 3995 03:21:13.840 --> 03:21:15.760 is the life and times of that I have to 3996 03:21:15.799 --> 03:21:17.719 deal with here in the circumstances and whatnot. 3997 03:21:17.760 --> 03:21:20.000 But I appreciate all folks at the inner webs. 3998 03:21:19.719 --> 03:21:22.159 Tonight and tune in and chatting and seem to be 3999 03:21:22.239 --> 03:21:24.719 fairly well engaged in and join the things I like 4000 03:21:24.799 --> 03:21:26.840 to see that I always aim to entertain here, and 4001 03:21:26.879 --> 03:21:29.079 I believe many of most of the rest of the 4002 03:21:29.120 --> 03:21:31.680 panel here does, except for Jen. He just intends to 4003 03:21:31.719 --> 03:21:35.159 do wizardry around everywhere. So for that much I also appreciate. 4004 03:21:35.719 --> 03:21:38.719 But I think thanks to all the cult rejects here 4005 03:21:38.760 --> 03:21:41.799 for joining us, and any any final comments from anyone. 4006 03:21:43.559 --> 03:21:48.399 Where we're going. We don't need roads, that's great. 4007 03:21:48.440 --> 03:22:06.879 Scott Bastos