Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: We're live on YouTube, and we're live on Instagram. Joining
Speaker 2: me now, of course, is Jackie Ray. As we go
Speaker 2: beyond the box score, Jackie Ray is good to see you.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm tired watching you?
Speaker 3: Why are you tired?
Speaker 5: I was just watching you. I was like, dang, I
Speaker 5: gotta get my push up life together.
Speaker 2: For those who don't know last segment, if you're just
Speaker 2: tuning in a long story short, I said I could
Speaker 2: do a one arm push up, and we had video
Speaker 2: of it, of course, if you're watching YouTube, and I did.
Speaker 2: According to some people, I did eleven. According to others,
Speaker 2: I did twelve one arm push ups.
Speaker 3: And I said.
Speaker 2: I was inspired by Rocky years and years ago, and
Speaker 2: I put it in my training regimen. But I hadn't
Speaker 2: done it, and I don't know how many years, actually
Speaker 2: not recently. I'm not gonna lie well done anyhow. But
Speaker 2: as we talk about sports and physical fitness things of
Speaker 2: that note. Bill Belichick former Patriots New England Patriots head coach.
Speaker 2: Now he is the head coach of the UNC football
Speaker 2: team of North Carolina Chapel Hill, he has a girlfriend
Speaker 2: one third his age. I think he's seventy two, she's
Speaker 2: twenty four. If I'm not mistaken, she has taken center
Speaker 2: stage as far as everything they do.
Speaker 3: You had a recent sit down interview.
Speaker 2: She had jumped in and said, we're not going to
Speaker 2: answer that question about how they met. She's still entering pageants,
Speaker 2: beauty pageants. She just came in third and miss Maine.
Speaker 2: Let me take a step back. What do you make
Speaker 2: of her public profile in their relationship.
Speaker 5: I think what I find interesting about this whole situation
Speaker 5: is to me, this is my personal opinion after prefaces
Speaker 5: because it might sting a little bit. But Bill Belichick's
Speaker 5: girlfriend and Shannon Sharp's accuser saying girl different packaging. I
Speaker 5: think they've intentionally targeted men that are well off that
Speaker 5: they feel like.
Speaker 4: They can have a come up. Now.
Speaker 5: I think Bill Belichick is you're not blaming though. Listen,
Speaker 5: I'm not blaming it anyone because it's a plan. So
Speaker 5: who am I blaming it? If you execute your plan? Well,
Speaker 5: I have to try to blame you.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that it's not true love between Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3: And Jordan Hudson. Listen, you're saying that she's looked the
Speaker 3: whole world over for a seventy two year old who
Speaker 3: would just love her for who she is.
Speaker 5: I can end up you're at seven years old, going,
Speaker 5: I can't wait until I date a man that has
Speaker 5: more in common with my grandfather than he does with me.
Speaker 2: But but if both people are eyes wide open going
Speaker 2: into that relationship, and Bill Belichick, I would believe it's
Speaker 2: a smart individual on and off the field. He's at
Speaker 2: an age. I don't think that he says that or
Speaker 2: believes in his mind that that woman wants him for
Speaker 2: his body as opposed to his money, status and stature.
Speaker 5: You would hope not, but you don't know the egos
Speaker 5: of some people. But I think the more concerning part
Speaker 5: of this situation is that she is controlling a lot
Speaker 5: of his social media or public presence. And that's a
Speaker 5: problem to me because if it's a doorway, if you
Speaker 5: can manipulate this side of him, then eventually you can
Speaker 5: manipulate another. And she's positioned herself to be like, oh,
Speaker 5: I am the social media influencer, you do need me
Speaker 5: to do this, even though she came in third and
Speaker 5: only had two hundred votes in that pageant.
Speaker 4: But that's none of my business. I'm just telling you
Speaker 4: how many votes she got.
Speaker 5: But she's positioned herself as the person who understands this
Speaker 5: form of medium. Bill Belichick has been opened for at
Speaker 5: least a better part of a decade, if not more.
Speaker 5: That he doesn't do social media. This is a time
Speaker 5: that your social media stock really can help push you
Speaker 5: in business. So she's probably positioned herself in a way
Speaker 5: that says, you go over there and do football.
Speaker 4: I'm going to do the rest of this.
Speaker 5: But oh, you know what, I made you this much money,
Speaker 5: so now I feel like I'm entitled to this much.
Speaker 5: It's a pathway. I'm not mad at her. She has
Speaker 5: a plan and she's executing it well. And to your point,
Speaker 5: can I be mad at her for doing that? When
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick is an able bodied grown up.
Speaker 2: You made the connection and compare Harrison to Shannon Sharp
Speaker 2: and his then nineteen year old girlfriend. I say girlfriend
Speaker 2: because there was some degree of relationship. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: it was just hey, I'll only see you when I
Speaker 2: happen to be in town and so forth.
Speaker 3: There was some relationship.
Speaker 2: The difference is, I would say, is Shannon Sharp is
Speaker 2: accused of a crime in a civil litigation that Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick is not outside of that. Do you have any
Speaker 2: problem with these May December romances?
Speaker 5: I mean I yes, because for me now it's tricky
Speaker 5: because again, I think both of these women had a plan.
Speaker 5: I understand that one has presented you know, she's accusing her,
Speaker 5: you know, Shannon Sharp, I get that, but it's Tony Busby.
Speaker 5: This isn't our first rodeo with seeing something like this.
Speaker 5: Tony Busby is the attorney that helped bring.
Speaker 2: Up but it's more than one woman with Shannon Sharpen
Speaker 2: and the other woman, Michelle Evans. Have to call her
Speaker 2: by name because she her name is now out there,
Speaker 2: it's not represented by Tony Busby.
Speaker 5: Right, but Michelle, Okay, I'm leave Miche alone because there's
Speaker 5: things that I know about that case, right right, right.
Speaker 5: But I think with these men specifically, you know, And
Speaker 5: Shannon Shark kind of shot himself in the foot too.
Speaker 5: He said that he doesn't want to date older women
Speaker 5: because older women want to be independent and take care
Speaker 5: of themselves, so he wants he wanted a woman to exactly. So,
Speaker 5: then when you put yourself in these positions, and I
Speaker 5: know I sound like my dad right now. But if
Speaker 5: you put yourself in a position and you're old enough
Speaker 5: to understand where this could lead, and you do it anyway,
Speaker 5: who's really supposed to feel sorry for you?
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's supposed to feel sorry for anyone
Speaker 2: in either of these scenarios. If it turns out that
Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson is only there for Bill Belichick's stature of
Speaker 2: fame and propelling her own career, that contending adults works
Speaker 2: both ways, to good and bad. If it works out,
Speaker 2: if Bill Belichick said, look, she's she's fine, I will
Speaker 2: never get a woman like that again in my life because,
Speaker 2: let me just speak for men, we are very visual creatures,
Speaker 2: absolutely all right. And the idea of being seventy two
Speaker 2: and a twenty four year old putting it on us, yeah,
Speaker 2: that probably appeals to a lot of folks, especially if
Speaker 2: it's on your terms.
Speaker 3: I don't believe they'll ever get buried.
Speaker 5: But contrary to popular belief, women too are very visual creatures.
Speaker 5: So the things you have to shut out to be
Speaker 5: in this situation paperbag huh, Well, look, you can't do
Speaker 5: that because I'll impede your plan. It's all about the
Speaker 5: illusion you have to present that you are in love.
Speaker 4: You think he is. The cats me out. You couldn't
Speaker 4: have survived this life without him.
Speaker 3: Different fellas.
Speaker 2: I'm going to invoke the fellas to wall if you're
Speaker 2: around Daniel two Stephan. There's an old saying that some
Speaker 2: guys have and I swear by and I can't say
Speaker 2: it on the air, but I'll allude to it.
Speaker 3: It's called d don't lie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I can't if I'm not into someone,
Speaker 2: D don't lie.
Speaker 3: I can't fake it.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine something scenario. I can't say, oh, it's
Speaker 2: actually Halle Berry instead.
Speaker 4: But we can do You see what I'm saying, We
Speaker 4: can fake it? Do you understand?
Speaker 6: I guess so.
Speaker 7: Yeah from Stephan save me, Yeah, coming from your perspective, Mo.
Speaker 7: What she means is, yeah, like they can have that
Speaker 7: perspective of someone else or something else because they're they're visual,
Speaker 7: but they can also work on just mental like you know, stimulation.
Speaker 3: Here's the difference between men and women.
Speaker 2: There could be a woman who is sitting at a
Speaker 2: bus stop, who has who has.
Speaker 3: No job, no future, no real aspirations.
Speaker 2: If she is very attractive, there's always a man who's
Speaker 2: willing to say I can turn her into something or
Speaker 2: you know, I want to hear her story because she
Speaker 2: is fine as frog legs.
Speaker 3: That's just who we are, that's just how we are.
Speaker 2: Come. Get some of this to wallet, get on the mic,
Speaker 2: but on the flip side, get on, Hold on a second.
Speaker 4: Tyler's like, hold there the phone, Hold the phone.
Speaker 3: You're on, You're on, you're on. Okay.
Speaker 8: Yes, if she is at that bus stop and she
Speaker 8: is looking fly is all get out, we will stop
Speaker 8: and say, hey, do you need a ride, young lady.
Speaker 6: And if she says.
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, and her breast smells like poohd don't lie,
Speaker 8: we will say, you know what, I hope that ride
Speaker 8: comes for you soon.
Speaker 3: Damn funky mouth monster play. But that's where you draw
Speaker 3: the line. I remember days where it's like, okay, I
Speaker 3: could buy her tooth and and and there there. I know.
Speaker 8: I know plenty of dudes who will say, hey, she's
Speaker 8: a butterface, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Absolute for those who don't know.
Speaker 8: Every single thing about her is fine, but her face, Okay. Absolutely,
Speaker 8: there's some things that we will absolutely put up with.
Speaker 8: But in this situation, y'all are actually both right because
Speaker 8: both people are coming at it from the exact position
Speaker 8: that you are talking about.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 6: Belichick is like, look, man, this one right here.
Speaker 8: She puts it on me. She needs all she needs
Speaker 8: is a little check. I'll be a sugar daddy. Fine,
Speaker 8: And she's like, look, we.
Speaker 4: Can talk you.
Speaker 3: Look, my kids are not down for this at all.
Speaker 8: Oh no, no, how she is young his kids, all
Speaker 8: of his kids.
Speaker 3: She's younger than all of his kids.
Speaker 8: I thought he had one that was the.
Speaker 6: All k Yeah, man, not this on my daddy. That
Speaker 6: was the case.
Speaker 3: But I would understand your daddy if that was the like,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it. But I understand that because men.
Speaker 4: Are just okay. But at the same time, twala, you
Speaker 4: have a daughter.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 4: If she ended up with a seventy two year old kid, he.
Speaker 3: Would kill My answer for him, he would kill that.
Speaker 8: At that point, the seventy two year old people say like,
Speaker 8: now you know for a fact you would have been
Speaker 8: him to death.
Speaker 6: Why did you start hitting him and not stop? Now
Speaker 6: he's dead?
Speaker 3: Now what you go to jail?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: You know the facts.
Speaker 4: Where's here, daddy?
Speaker 7: Yet?
Speaker 3: Probably getting a percentage?
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know, Oh man, Daddy's got
Speaker 6: it on the stroll.
Speaker 2: Look, no, you have two consenting adults, and everyone is
Speaker 2: aware of what's going on in the dimensions, and the
Speaker 2: two people who are involved with each other are okay
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't have an issue with it.
Speaker 2: It's not for me, but I understand why it would
Speaker 2: be for them.
Speaker 5: I think with Belichick specifically, though we've seen this a
Speaker 5: million times, it's a tale as old as time, we
Speaker 5: will see it a million times more before we are
Speaker 5: called from this plane. I think the problem that everyone
Speaker 5: is having with Bill Belichick is it seems like there's
Speaker 5: a clear manipulation happening by her on to him, and
Speaker 5: then because of his age. I'm not saying it's true,
Speaker 5: but because of his age, then you have to wonder
Speaker 5: is he there when he's allowing this woman to tell CBS, no,
Speaker 5: we're not going to talk about that while she sends
Speaker 5: them onto the screen with a hole in his shirt.
Speaker 6: I hadn't like Anna Nicole Smith right.
Speaker 2: Kind of, but I haven't seen anything publicly which would
Speaker 2: suggest to me that he is cognitively slipping, if only
Speaker 2: because he is actively working as the coach of the
Speaker 2: North Carolina Tar Hills football program, where there would be
Speaker 2: other indicators.
Speaker 4: Of a lot of people in Congress work that.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm with you on that, But I'm saying,
Speaker 2: when there's so much money writing on a program, I
Speaker 2: think it's a little bit more difficult to hide.
Speaker 6: But what if it's just name at all? Exactly says
Speaker 6: connected to the program they got.
Speaker 8: They got the name Belichick, but they have other people
Speaker 8: calling the calls because they want to have that prestige.
Speaker 6: Come to the university well.
Speaker 5: Colorado, we'll find out, we'll find the money for Dion
Speaker 5: they didn't even have. It was the name Dion Sanders
Speaker 5: that they wanted before they even had the money to
Speaker 5: pay him. So I think Belichick carries the same weight
Speaker 5: with his name.
Speaker 2: I'm just not going to impugne his cognitive ability until
Speaker 2: I see something. And since we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: the elephant in the room, I could say, Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: I could point to that. I can point to this,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, that answer you gave over here, talk about this,
Speaker 2: that and the other. I can point to that. I
Speaker 2: can't say that about Bill Belichick as of yet.
Speaker 3: That's almost desperate.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying he's seventy two, and it's like,
Speaker 2: this is my last shot at.
Speaker 5: No but okay to be on a national truck with
Speaker 5: CBS and have this little girl over here say no,
Speaker 5: we're not going to that's that. That didn't that didn't
Speaker 5: make it cringe a little?
Speaker 2: No, it may me cringe. We got to go to
Speaker 2: break by Will say this. It may be cringe, but
Speaker 2: it's not like his own family. They don't have their
Speaker 2: own ability to speak out publicly, and they have not
Speaker 2: as of yet spoken out saying that she is manipulating
Speaker 2: him and she has taken advantage of him because he
Speaker 2: is not cognitively where he needs to be right.
Speaker 3: It's later with Mo Kelly talking with Jackie Ray.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Pope and his Chicago White Sox fandom.
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Speaker 2: would date, under what circumstances, whether they could get the
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Speaker 7: Well, look, they love the mood light that you have
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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see the next comments that come up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Mark, I'm telling you, I look even better if
Speaker 7: if everybody's got a bag on their head.
Speaker 3: Everybody, Mark, they're here for you. They're not here for
Speaker 3: the show. They're here for you.
Speaker 4: You, they said, as long as you're here. They're here
Speaker 4: the first time.
Speaker 2: I think it's the first time that people actually are
Speaker 2: looking forward to the commercials.
Speaker 7: Well this way, you start doing one arm pushups. Oh,
Speaker 7: they asked you, when are you gonna do them? They've
Speaker 7: asked you. They were like, Mark's next, Yes, Mark, your turn.
Speaker 4: With a whole chant Mark, Mark, I.
Speaker 7: Don't really feel the need to put on such displays. Well,
Speaker 7: although it is really fun to egg you on. I
Speaker 7: love doing that. Yeah, she might as well watch the show.
Speaker 7: We're live on YouTube. You don't know what you might see, Jackuary.
Speaker 7: Let me come back to you. We were really over
Speaker 7: in the last break, So this is gonna be a
Speaker 7: little bit shorter. But what do you make of Pope
Speaker 7: Leo the fourteenth and his fandom? Given that he's a
Speaker 7: Chicago kid, he's a Villanova grad, he's a Chicago White
Speaker 7: Sox fan. He's very much a dude in that regard,
Speaker 7: but he.
Speaker 3: Loves the Chicago White Sox. Is even video if you'm
Speaker 3: at the World Series in two thousand and five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, whoever found that video needs a because how would
Speaker 5: you even know that that video existed in two thousand
Speaker 5: and five?
Speaker 4: Like where did your mind go?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 4: Oh, I remember once upon a time? Like who dave?
Speaker 3: If you knew that? You know he said he had
Speaker 3: gone to the same how you apply?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so you know.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 5: I'm not a huge baseball person, so I really could
Speaker 5: care less about this. But what I do like is
Speaker 5: knowing that he is a fans fan like he all
Speaker 5: fans can relate to him and his fandom, and I
Speaker 5: think for a lot of people that's just a It
Speaker 5: speaks to him being an American guy. You know, whether
Speaker 5: you're a fan of the same team or not, it's
Speaker 5: just speaks to that. Because I'm not Catholic, So I
Speaker 5: really it doesn't phaze me either way on who the
Speaker 5: next pope was. I've never read more about a pope
Speaker 5: in my entire life until I saw this headline that
Speaker 5: he is a sports fan, he's a Chicago fan, and
Speaker 5: then I saw the video and I was like.
Speaker 4: Oh my God, let me go learn more about him.
Speaker 5: So it just makes him more relatable, I think, especially
Speaker 5: to those of us here in America, and we just
Speaker 5: see popes from everywhere else.
Speaker 4: So I think it's a great look for the Vatican.
Speaker 2: I look at it as a new story, as a
Speaker 2: piece of interesting trivia, because I, like you, am not Catholic,
Speaker 2: and I look at the pope as the head of
Speaker 2: the church, not even though there are some political overtones
Speaker 2: and undertones to some things a pope may say. I
Speaker 2: talked about this last week, how people on the right
Speaker 2: and left were losing their ever loving minds about well,
Speaker 2: he's too woke, or he needs to be.
Speaker 3: This about Israel and Godza, or he's a homophobe. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm literally he's I said exactly that.
Speaker 2: But beyond that, they want to shape the pope into
Speaker 2: their political god lack of another phrase, and that disappointed
Speaker 2: me because those individuals weren't even Catholic. They wanted the
Speaker 2: Pope to come down on a certain political side, and
Speaker 2: it's like, you've missed.
Speaker 3: The point, and the point wasn't even dot for you
Speaker 3: as a non.
Speaker 5: Catholic, and they forgot you know, Jesus is flipping over
Speaker 5: tables in the synagogue and all that.
Speaker 4: But you know what, everybody got their thing.
Speaker 5: But for me, I think what makes this more inviting
Speaker 5: is because he does seem like he is just a
Speaker 5: normal guy. And I think normal people don't do a
Speaker 5: lot of what we're seeing in this country right now.
Speaker 5: I think normal people who care about other people, who
Speaker 5: operate in humanity and empathy. It just made him more relatable,
Speaker 5: So it made me want to keep an eye on
Speaker 5: what he does, because otherwise they would have announced the
Speaker 5: pope and I would sit here before you today and
Speaker 5: not know the name of that pope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have been Pope John Paul the seventeenth,
Speaker 2: who might have been from I don't know Italy, as
Speaker 2: most of the popes had been until nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 2: And it may not have impacted my daily life. Am
Speaker 2: I a little more intrigued?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued at the prospect of an American pope or
Speaker 2: pope who hails from America, who doesn't only speak English,
Speaker 2: didn't only live in the United States, and it has
Speaker 2: a much more worldly view, you are, should say, a
Speaker 2: folksome view of the world than most Americans.
Speaker 5: Ye, and you know, whether it will happen or not,
Speaker 5: I would be over the moon and would probably go
Speaker 5: to that game if he comes to, you know and
Speaker 5: goes to get I don't.
Speaker 3: Think the Pope is going to another game in his life.
Speaker 3: In his life.
Speaker 4: I could see that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would like to be able to see
Speaker 2: the Pope mobile again, but I don't think it's going
Speaker 2: to pull up to you know, somewhere in Chicago on
Speaker 2: like Michigan Avenue.
Speaker 7: There's a pope ever thrown out a first pitch before
Speaker 7: we got to see that.
Speaker 6: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they would allow the pope in
Speaker 2: such an open setting.
Speaker 4: Very serious safety reasons.
Speaker 2: I'm old enough to remember when they tried to kill
Speaker 2: the pope, ye try.
Speaker 5: To assassinate it. I remember that what was that? What
Speaker 5: pope was that?
Speaker 3: I can't was it Pope John Paul. They tried to assassinate.
Speaker 3: Not to look it up.
Speaker 7: I get confused between JP one and JP two, right,
Speaker 7: I think it was a second?
Speaker 4: How many?
Speaker 1: How many?
Speaker 3: How many?
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 2: Because it's John Paul the Second?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: May thirteenth, Oh gosh, what tomorrow rememoration?
Speaker 3: Oh wow? May thirteenth, nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 2: Pope John Paul the Second was shot by memit Ali
Speaker 2: Akra in Saint Peter's Square while he was entering the square,
Speaker 2: a Turkish national. Was later convicted and sentenced to life
Speaker 2: in prison. Just despite the wounds, the Pope survived and
Speaker 2: later forgave his attacker.
Speaker 7: And that's so. That was before he was in the
Speaker 7: bulletproof thing. Yes, yes, that had a lot to do
Speaker 7: with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do remember it. I remember
Speaker 2: that just being in school and it's like who, And
Speaker 2: I literally said, I remember. My teacher got mad at me.
Speaker 2: I said, who the hell would want to shoot the pope?
Speaker 4: Right the people from him?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, sorry, you're not just saying you know who?
Speaker 3: Never mind?
Speaker 5: So yeah, no, but I'm excited for what this means
Speaker 5: for just people in general. I say this all the time,
Speaker 5: and I always find weird reasons to say this.
Speaker 4: If this inspires people to read more and learn more
Speaker 4: and broaden their horizons about the world. This is a
Speaker 4: fantastic thing.
Speaker 3: It's Later with mo Kelly. You got the last word
Speaker 3: on that one. Jack Ray. Always good to see great
Speaker 3: to see you.
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