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Speaker 2: I want to get into a little bit of world
of by sports but also college athletics.
Speaker 4: Did you buy chance here?
Speaker 2: See the words the quotes from Joel Klatt one of
the enemies public enemies number one for college football fans.
I think right now a lot of people are like,
it's funny. People don't realize. Let me just give you
a baseline foundation here. The more people talk, the more
they say that you can criticize period. That's why radio
so tough now with all these streaming things going on
right now with video and things. Kirk Hurbstreet has been
thrown under, Josh Pate has been thrown UNDERBLIC public anemy
number two.
Speaker 4: And number three. But I think the hated college.
Speaker 2: Football analyst right now maybe Joel Klatt, the former Boulder,
Colorado product the PAC twelve advocate that the defunct PAC
twelve advocate right because it no longer exists.
Speaker 4: He was not a friend to BYU during this process.
I don't know. In fact, I don't think any of
these guys were Peyton State.
Speaker 2: Joel Klatt as well as Kirk Kurtry, none of them
were advocating for by Did you hear, by chance what
he said about the NC Double A tournament?
Speaker 3: You know, I saw some of the headlines. I didn't
I didn't catch exactly what was said other than the
fact that he had some pretty terrible takes on just
the overall tournament itself.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give it to you right here, let
me give you a quote, and then we're gonna play
the sound by I hopefully you can hear it. So
he stated this, This was a This was a few
days ago. He hopped onto I think the Jump sports
podcast and said, Uh, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is a joke.
It's the dumbest tournament in and the least fair tournament
in all of sports. We put teams at odd times
on neutral sites in a one game affair that doesn't
crown a true champion. Let's listen in he pontificates a
little bit further here.
Speaker 5: About that we don't want Cinderella's we want the best
teams playing each other at the end. In fact, hot take,
I mean, like the hottest of all takes that I've
ever had in my entire life. The NCAA Basketball Tournament
is a joke. It's it's the it's the dumbest tournament
and the least fair tournament in all of sports. We
go and we put we put teams at odd times
on neutral sites in a one game affair like that
doesn't crown a true champion.
Speaker 4: We're not We're not.
Speaker 5: Doing anything that tells us who's the best team over
the course of the entire season. You know, like, if anything,
the NCAA Basketball tournament should act exactly like the old
the old World Cup, which we should have groups. They
should all get guaranteed three games, and they should be
played at the higher seeds arena so that those seeds
are rewarded for a quality game. And that way we
don't just get to see, like you know, Kentucky won
and done against George Mason or something like that. Well,
that's stupid about that. We don't want cinderellas so late.
Speaker 4: Were you able to hear that by chance?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, so you heard it. What do you agree with?
Speaker 2: What do you disagree with from Joel Klatt about Cinderellu's
NCAA tournament grouping one and done type of situations, neutral sites.
Speaker 4: What stood out to you?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know if there's much that I can't
agree on. I think I personally feel like March Madness
is the best tournament out there. This is from someone
who grew up in acc country watching Duke in Carolina
and NC State and all these teams compete. And that's
the beautiful thing about March madness is it levels out
that playing field on those neutral sites right where you
can see a team like Valparaiso go in and go
deep into the tournament, or Butler or you know, BYU,
you know where you know, college football doesn't have that
luxury right now.
Speaker 6: So I also kind.
Speaker 3: Of don't know if I would necessarily put a lot of.
Speaker 6: Stock in what he's saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, he is a he is a college football guy,
and so to say that that's like one of the
worst tournament formats is kind of crazy in my opinion,
because I think most people will disagree.
Speaker 2: With that well, and then foundationally just before he was
talking about that, like he doesn't like that. He's one
of those anti JMU, anti two lane guys. He doesn't
want a Cinderella in the college football Playoff. He doesn't
want automatic bids from teams that don't that aren't one
of the top twelve teams in college football per his
his purview, right, And I understand where he's coming from there.
It's like, you know, other teams should maybe be in
this college football playoff, and BYU like like byu' is
a better team than too Late, right, b Y is
a better team in JMU.
Speaker 4: They were one of the.
Speaker 2: First teams out, and so like, I understand this perspective
that he has on the college football playoff and even
how he views I actually think there is some I
think there's some valid points that he makes when you're
talking about crowning the one true champion and having the
best teams, you know, group together in those final few games,
et cetera. Football is different than basketball completely, and you
make a really good point. Typically the best team wins
in football. It's really hard to like just get hot
in a football game, No, because there's too many. There's
eleven players on the field, and you have to be
a really good team to win basketball.
Speaker 4: Someone can get hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and Ap and Ronnie pull up to the
local gym and someone's running. You know, they're really talented,
so we could you step in. I'm an old man.
Ap still has some vigoran vim. Ronnie Hill you know
his he can still get buckets. We could get hot
and knock off a good team, right like we in
the basketball world, it's a little bit different. He's an
idiot for saying we don't want cinderellas. What an ignorant
thing to say, you know, I think, But at the
same time, I do believe there is probably something to
the neutral side of things, the neutral games of the
NCAA tournament, right. I understand why they do it, but
if you've won the regular season or you won your
conference tournament, you're a higher seed, it'd be nice to
have a competitive advantage rather than a neutral site. So
I do think there's some credence now he backed The
thing that I think is so interesting is he backed
up and said that's a terrible take.
Speaker 4: Recently he said it was a bad take. It was
a terrible thing.
Speaker 2: This tells me everything I need to know about Joe Klatt.
He's thought about this, He's delved into this. He said,
we don't want cinderellas. In fact, the NCAA tournament's the
worst tournament because it doesn't crown the once tri trip.
Speaker 4: He's thought about this.
Speaker 2: This is something he believes, and just because there's bad
pr backlash, he's like, no, guys, I was wrong.
Speaker 4: This is the ultimate politician.
Speaker 2: Listen to this, watch him back it up, back it
up the truck saying I just want everyone to like me. Now,
don't hate on me, don't attack me. Listen to Joel Klatt.
Speaker 5: I had an interesting take. It was a bad take.
It was a terrible take. To be fair, what I
said on their show on Monday morning early was sloppy
and worded wrong, and so it was kind of like
I landed the plane, but it was in a cornfield
and so like we had to hit the eject and
it was like we kind of like the plane didn't
crash necessarily. Here's the deal the NCAA Basketball Tournament. If
the objective was to crown the best basketball team of
the college basketball season, then it's a bad format. And
because of that then it's not fair, is what I said.
And I said is a joke. It's the dumbest and
that's obviously going to grab headlines. And again that's stupid
of me to use those terms. But the structure of
the NCAA Basketball Tournament, it's objective is entertainment.
Speaker 4: It's meant to be a gauntlet.
Speaker 5: So the point is the best college basketball team for
the year doesn't always win the NCAA Basketball Tournament. That
tournament is set up to just crown its own champion.
It's a made for TV entertainment event and it's great.
And by the way, I do love the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
But if you're asking me, is it structured properly to
crown the best team of the season, then the answer
is no. It's a hot take. It's a bad take.
Not everyone's going to share that with me, because everyone
loves the entertainment value of cinderellas in the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
But here's the thing, if you're actually honest with yourself,
you love the cinderellas early late. You want to see
the best teams playing against each other. You want to
see incredible regional finals. You want to see Kentucky and
Duke with Latner hitting it at the buzzer. Why, because
that's greatness. Yes, you love cinderellas in the tournament because
you have sixty eight teams. But in college football, ours
is much more selective. We have twelve teams of one
hundred and thirty whatever teams in college football, and so
once we're down to twelve, well, now we don't really
want cinderellas. And I will maintain that opinion. That is
my opinion. You can disagree, and more power to you.
Speaker 4: All Right, there you go, Layne Alo game Day, Men's health.
What do you make of that? Is he backing it
up enough for you?
Speaker 6: Is?
Speaker 4: What vibe do you get listening to Joel Klatt there?
Speaker 3: Well, he kind of said he's talking out of both
sides of his mouth right now. He's saying that no
one wants it, but then everyone wants wants it, and
it's like, well, which one is it? I personally love
the Cinderella story even like, here's the deal, Like I
think you said it perfectly. No one is expecting Tulane
to come out here and win the college football playoffs.
No one's expecting for a JAMU to do it. Could
they potentially get by a first round Navy, who knows,
But there's no way that they're going to win the
whole thing, right, And it's like you said, there's just
too many moving parts. But to say that people don't
want to Cinderella story, that's like patently false, right, Like
we love the Cinderella story. In fact, even outside of
this within the bowl season, right, we've had you know,
I don't know if you want to call it a
Cinderella story, but just think back to like Boise and
State in two thousand and seven and that Fiesta Bowl.
People loved that game.
Speaker 6: Boy.
Speaker 3: State was a huge underdog and that was a insanely
entertaining game to watch. So people do want do want
that because for how many Oklahoma fans there are who
were watching that game, there was a whole lot of
people in the country who were rooting against Oklahoma in
that game, and they love that.
Speaker 2: I'm right with you, Lane, So my thoughts, I'll give
you my thoughts here. I'll go let ap chime in
as well. I got used Carl's car salesman vibes outside
both speaking outside, both of his mouths, right both sides.
He's gonna tell you what he told you how he
really feels right off the bat, and then whenever he
got criticism, now he's backing it up. That's a politician
that to me, has been bought and paid for by
big business as well. That's the vibe that I get.
He got enough flack for it. He felt like it
was hurting his brand. He felt like he was getting,
you know, this constructive feedback and it could be you know,
some angry people too, and he's like, I gotta back this,
and I gotta soften it up a little bit. I
was too hyperbolic, but he told you exactly how he
felt right off the bat, Like that's his truth, that's
his reality of the NCAA tournament and how he feels
the college foot ball playoff should run jam you and
and Tulane shouldn't be in and you should.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a better format.
Speaker 2: He feels like the college football play iff is actually
still a better format than than college basketball. That's kind
of that's the vibe that I got, And I think
it's interesting, Like, now you know you can't really trust
Joel Klatt, is what I'm getting at, Like now I know,
like I I, he's going to be tossed a little
bit to and fro by either money or or public
relations backlash. So I'm like, now, I just like, Okay,
he's just a talking head that is going to say
whatever you know, he thinks he's going to be most
beneficial to his pocketbook. Your thoughts, ap, well, my thoughts
first and foremost. If you want a basketball tournament that's
like the World Cup where you have group stages, go
watch the NBA Cup.
Speaker 7: How successful has that been? I've never met.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know if I've met someone who gives a
rip about the NBA Cup. It's meaningless, it's not it's not.
Speaker 4: A great tournament. Let's be honest here.
Speaker 7: March Madnus is perfect.
Speaker 4: It is the best.
Speaker 7: Outside of the World Cup, which I love for personal reasons.
Outside of the World Cup, March Madus is the best
tournament out there because it gives everyone an opportunity to
earn it on the court. Okay, Loyola Chicago went to
the Final four, not because they got hot for one game.
They earned it on the court several times. But Joe
clad over here is saying we should never have let
them have a chance at this. Never because they're from
this little school. I don't trust where they're from.
Speaker 4: Never.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because he wants Duke and North Carolina. If you
want Duke in North Carolina, watch the regular season they
played twice. Okay, And so when it comes to football,
if you're applying that to football, you're probably going to
still get Ohio State, Texas Tech, Indiana in the National
Championship game, Chu Lane and Jmu they're gonna get They're
gonna get their but they're not gonna go all the way.
Let's be honest here, and if they do, then they've
earned it on the field and they deserve it. Okay,
And if I'll say this, if they do win the
national championship, then that's great. I think that then they've
earned it. They've earned it. That's the point here, is
that you need to give these little schools an actual
chance instead of just saying on the hypothetical field, on
my paper football team, we beat them by forty and
you might beat them by forty, but you might not.
Speaker 4: And we all know that.
Speaker 2: Utah, speaking of paper, they've never lost a game on paper.
Speaker 7: They have the greatest paper football team in the history.
Speaker 4: Of paper football.
Speaker 7: The problem comes when they field their actual football team.
Speaker 2: And they have to go to Lavelle Edwards Stadium and win,
and they couldn't do it. Lane, Hey, Lane, appreciate you.
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Speaker 6: Benjamin Critel, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 4: Living the dream? Man living the dream all as well?
Speaker 2: In Cougar Country, By's going to the Pop Tarts Bowl.
Man ranked opponent in a bowl game. We've we've experienced
a lot of great bowl games in bau football history,
not a lot of them have been against ranked opponents.
What does it mean to play a ranked opponent at
the end.
Speaker 4: Of the year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it validates the season that you've had,
shows that obviously you're playing a ranked opponent, means that
you've probably had a good season yourself, and gives you
one more officers to go out there and improve yourself.
It's unfortunate that it's kind of ended in the bowl
game that you used in versus the playoffs, but you know,
it is what it is. It's just another opportunity and
listen to football players, is unlike basketball or baseball. You
only have twelve thirteen opportunities this year obviously fourteen opportunities
you got there and play a game that you love.
And so for me it's always like, hey, bowl game,
this is I cent a cake. There's one more chance
to go out there and compete, and one more opportunity
to go show that you're in absolute stud and trying
to make a case for yourself going into the NFL
potentially and forced trying to end the season on an
uptick and on a good note and get ready for
the next year.
Speaker 2: How does a win or a loss the outcome of
the Bowl game this year versus Georgia Tech impact your
opinion of the twenty twenty five football team at BUYU
added season.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't think any will ever I lost,
would not take away the season this Deala's team has had.
I mean, this season that goes down in history is
one of the top seasons I think ever given a schedule,
what deal he's able to do. I think it was
really impressive to see how BYU coming off what happened
last year, where all they had to do is win
one of those last few games and they ended up
dropping Arizona State and they no longer control their own destiny.
They're basically the same situation this year, and the fact
that they came through they were able to hold strong
indeede Iowa State and TCU and finish strong and get
to the championship game. I mean, that's that's really impressive,
and it shows kind of stepped in the right direction
that the Clone took his team. So nothing will take
away this season this buy team has put together. But
of course win always is the cherry on top, and
it kind of kind of pulls you into the offseason
and gets you ready for you know, set you on
the right mood and right track. And there's anything we've
learned from the last two years is you've gotta find
a way to be three season ranked. You've gotta find
a way to be the top twenty so you can,
you know, climb your way up through that top ten
faster than if you're unranked. And that's what this team
has had an issue with. And it's it's kind of
playing from behind as they try to make their way
up in that top ten, top eight and give you
a little bit more grace when it comes to losing
a game down the road. Because you only drop the
U spots versus Billy, you're kind of dropping out of
that top twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really intriguing to me how how Couler
nation collectively is gonna view this game.
Speaker 4: If b YU loses. How did they feel about this season?
Speaker 2: I mean they were knocking on the or they in
the minds of bou fans, and I think, yeah, I
feel the same way. B A is not an elite
team yet, right, you'd agree that they're not elite team.
They're a great team though, I'd put them, you know,
in that if they're not a top five team in
the country. They're probably in between that, like six to
sixteen ranked, which that is that where you put them,
and they can compete and beat those teams in that
six to sixteen realm.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, and I think I think, listen,
this team can compete with anybody if they played perfect football.
And that was the problem with Texas Tech both loss
of this year, they by no means played perfect football.
Your negative to turnover both games, and nobody just made
plays listen. Defensively didn't create any turnovers either, and so
you know, this was a if you want to play
with the top teams in the country, you've got to
play really good football, and bo you didn't. And that's
what it comes down to. They they just didn't play
their best against the top of punt that they needed to.
And I think that's what the committee saw, and I
don't agree with them, but I can certainly understand the
rationale and their quote unquote ie test he wasn't competitive
in any of those games. And yet if you watch
the whole game, see Billy's competitive. You know, a halftime,
the score was really close, but ultimately they couldn't close
out the game and finish and and you know, that's
I think that's what I got penalized ultimately. But but
once again, I think what they did this year, especially
with a freshman quarterback, and what Aaron Rodgers was able
to do to to kind of great for him and
the guys stets up all around him. It was just
an incredible effort. I credit goes to Colonne coaching staff,
certainly the players, but to take the situation they were
handed was so late in the season as well, right,
I mean, it's different if it's all everything with Jake
Retzloff went down in January, so they had all spring ball,
had all summer workouts to all kind of get on
the same page. But this happened so late in the
year that they're just scrambled the way they did. Uh,
And to have the record the way they did, I mean,
it's I'm telling you, it's it's super impressive.
Speaker 4: What's sorry, ap, What do he got for me?
Speaker 7: So it's it's become pretty clear to me that over
the past past there's a gap between elite teams and
great teams, and sometimes that gap can be pretty big.
To the tune of twenty nine to seven loss, Right,
what does b YU need to do in the offseason
to close that gap as a program.
Speaker 6: You know, I went back and watched the All twenty
two film on the first loss against Texas Tech, and
then you know, I've obviously watched the game and the
big tal termionship haven't watched the film quite you have
that one. But here's the thing DEALI is not getting
dominating the trenches. It's not like we're outmanned against the
against Texas Tech. Yeah, they got some better athletes to
serve positions. I think definitely Texas Tech defensive elite and
our offense b always often struggled to move the ball
and and kind of sustained your eyes. But if I
wouldn't say us all of Ston's got scrapped their whole
program and start from scratch and go get different dudes.
Gilli has the dudes. I think a lot of those
just pure execution. And yeah, LoVa was a young quarterback.
I mean Bear gets hurt in that Texas Tech game.
It changed the whole game plan. I mean it's from
a deep the guys. If I see a quarterback limp
and the way Bear was limping, but yeah, I'm not
going to respect his own read I'm not going to
respect Bear as a runner, and it changes the whole
game play. Now you're just sitting duck in that pocket.
I'm gonna come after him, right, And that's exactly what
Texas Tech did, And so both games are just different.
I think all the first game against Texas Tech, Bear
on the road, big twelve environment gained it. I think
all just kind of got to him. Frankly, I mean
that's that's kind of the first game. You saw Bear
get rattled. He took a hit early in night game.
If you remember, he tried to leap over one that
Texas Tech defenders and they just absolutely body slammed them
to the ground. He wasn't the same after that, and
I think I think some of that carried throughout that
first loss and the second loss. You know, after he
gets hurt. It is a different ballgame too. And I
mean that's just the game of football, right, Quarterback rules everything.
So if your quarterback's not dial the dialed in it,
it's gonna be a long day. But you know, I
think BA can be with Texas Tech. I didn't think
it can be honestly with anybody in the country, especially
with the defense. The Bill he had. As we've seen Beauty,
he just can keep him in any game. What Bou's
defense did not do, like I said, is create turnovers
and and if if you're all offensive struggling the way
the Buy's offense was struggling against this elite Texan Tech defense, defensively,
you've got to go out there and create some opportunities,
and you've got to create short fields and you've got
great pods the situations for your offense to try to
get some points on the board. And candidly, the BOI
defense didn't do that. And I know it's tough to
do against a team like Texan Tech that takes care
of the ball, but you know that that's on the
boded to to step up and make some plays. And
like I said, both games against Sex and Tech, nobody
really made those game breaking plays, right. And and that's
the difference between a team kind of being where BA
is and was versus a team that's being elite. I mean,
look look at Texas Tech and what ro Rodriguez did
and the other linebacker I'm blanking at his name that
had two picks against BAU in the championship game. Those
dudes stepped up and made plays like that's as simple
as that, and you just got somebody gotta step up
and make a play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Roberts, who was a baller in that game. We
weren't even we weren't even uh, you know, talking about
him leading up to that that that particular game where
worried about Jacob Rodrigus. Instead, Roberts just completely took over
that game defensively.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, d Nicks.
Speaker 2: A lot of BYU fans right after that second Texas
Tech game they said, Ben, why aren't we pushing the
ball down field? Why do you think aer Rod was
hesitant to maybe push the ball downfield? Or maybe you know,
maybe there were routes run If you checked the all
twenty two, Bear just wasn't pushing it downfield.
Speaker 4: What was the story there, do you think?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think it was a combination of just Texas
text front four. Really, the past rush is you know,
tough to contain, so I think thea you had to
keep extra balkers in. I joked that, hey, just stretching
down field and maybe we'll get a past in the
afference that could be one of your biggest players of
the game. And sure enough to what you drew one
lay in the game on a past in afference, so
you know, I'm not sure what it was. I agree,
you've got to stretch the defense, especially as as a
defensent guy. When the teams start trying to bottle at
the top, now your drafts become a little bit deeper.
And now that opened up the shorts intermediate rows as well, right,
And I think that's something that is barre matures. He'll
get more use of dropping it down to his checkdowns
and just be a little more decisive. Like when you
go back from watching the film, there are certain windows
that he should be getting the ball out in that
first window. Instead he waited an extra count and got
it out in the second window, and a lot of
times he completed it. But it's he matures and grows,
so get it out sooner and and uh, you know
that opens up and allows more big plays to occur.
But you know, I think everyone's frustrated with a lot
of throwing the fault on the field. I don't know
the extent of his injury, whether you know, on that
front foot, if he felt comfortable enough of not of
pushing off on that front foot and trying to push
the fall downfield in the championship game, but it was
kind of the same thing that happened in the first game.
Like you said, the passing game was almost non existent,
which you know, if you're one dimensional, it's and it
makes it makes it pretty tough.
Speaker 2: What do you like about this BYU football team this year?
Where do you maybe rank it amongst the best BYU
teams and BOAU football history.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's gonna be out there. I don't know
where it brings exactly, but you look at this defense,
like I allude to earlier, give up nineteen points a game.
I mean that's that's elite, that's a and that's a
big twelve play, right, I mean that gives good competition.
I think this team and what's going to deal with
the cards that were dealt. I look at L. J. Martin,
the way he stepped up, uh and you know with
with the young quarterback Franklin. I think the way the
Bear performed from for the beast majority of the season,
the way the Bear was able to take care of
the ball right, it was really impressive. He ended the
season a regular season. I know we obviously there's a
bowl game, but fourteen touchdowns only six interceptions, you know,
sixty four percent completion percentage, Like that's sixty plus form
a freshman. I mean, that's that's all you can really
ask for, right And then of course the way he
was able to kind of be teams with his legs,
you know. I I just loved kind of how this
whole season came together. And once again, for me, the
biggest takeaway is the ability that for Buil you to
to finish right. And that's something they failed to do
last year. They go back in the offseason, all the
juniors that are now seniors noted how painful that was that,
you know, they at one point last year they control
their own destiny, and they faltered. They slipped during the
you know, during the home stretch. But this year, after
losing to Texas Tech, they smacked TCU. They go on
the road to Cincinnati, you know, beat him handily, h
and you come home, you smack UCS like they took
care of business. And and and that's that's the step
of the right direction. Now, obviously the next progression is
to get back to the te your ship game next year
and you win at this time. Right, So it's kind
of baby steps, but I just I'm just impressed with
this team kind of, like I said, the step they
made in the right direction of taking care of business
and finishing the season strong and showing that they're listen,
They're they're they're forced to be wreckful with You look
at the b YU and you look at their returney starters.
I look at that secondary. I mean the return almost
ever been in that secondary except for Tanner Wall you know, uh,
defensive line Obcioc who decides to come back, and what
pieces they can add there. Some of those young guys
tell to the Atana and Nusutamo Pale super impressive. There's
just a lot of pieces to this boy team that
You're gonna be returning a lot of dudes next year,
and I'm sure there'll add some more guys in the portal.
But I think that's what gets you much excited and
move forward is as Colonias building Savage's culture, uh and
and you just kind of keep plugging guys in and
the older guys, the vetsman guys are coach up to
younger guys and it becomes guy of this culture of uh.
You know, CALLI says, I love and learn right, And
I think that's true. I think these guys are learning
from one another and the results are paying off on
the field. I mean, eleven and two, that's man, what
a fun season. It's incredible they were able to kind
of right off what they did against the competition that
they did.
Speaker 2: David Nixon, former b y, you're great talking to BYU
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As far as you know, you look at this BYU
team at the beginning of the year, Jake Redslov leaves right,
and there's some question marks around the offense and who's
gonna lead it. Uh jakins up at Tulane and then
leads his team to.
Speaker 4: The College Football Playoff.
Speaker 2: UH us on the outside looking in now back to
back years. Pretty crazy how I'm super happy for Jake,
obviously wish him nothing but the best, But it makes
you wonder. And we've had this debate on the show.
Do you think BYU is better with Jake?
Speaker 4: You look at what he did at Tulane.
Speaker 2: You look at his stats, right, I don't know if
he's supporting cast is as strong the resources that do
you think by you would have been better off with
Jake or with Bear this year, remember Bear, he took
care of the ball, ran the ball extremely well.
Speaker 4: Statistically they kind of look.
Speaker 2: Similar this year in many ways, not a whole lot
of difference there.
Speaker 4: What do you make of that?
Speaker 6: No, it's a good question. I mean we know that
you kind of lived and died by Jake, right. He
was a gunslinger, which was fun to watch, but also
as we remember from the Kansas game and Oklahoma a
couple of years prior, like you can also bite you,
which has gun slinging, and I think that was that
was the one thing with with Bear coming this season.
I think Aaron just said, listen, we're not gonna air
it out. We're not gonna go crazy to play, but
we're gonna do a lot of play action. We're gonna
run the ball, We're gonna do a lot of play action.
Out to play action. We'll have a couple guys run
some routes and we're gonna make some really easy reade,
really easy throws for you. And he made those throws, right,
he made it. When they had this account, he stepped
up in the pocket a louda pass rushes and Barret
Bachmayer delivered. Jake was was just he was a different
type of player. He also keep beat with his legs, clearly,
but but he also you know, he made some spectator throws.
We also put in some tough situations, right, I mean,
you look at his numbers. You've probably broken this down
before as well. But he also had fourteen touchdowns six
interceptions with Heulane, so some pretty comfortable numbers to to
what Bear had. And I'm trying to try to look
at this. It looks like Barre at twenty seven hundred
passing yards and Jake had, yeah, twenty eight sixty two,
Like not super far off, right, it boasted with the
same touchdown interstate ratio. I don't know Jake with a gamer.
I love, I loved how he competed. But I think
we all can you know, I think we all agree
that there were times where he would drop back. We
all kind of held our press, like, oh boy, but
what's gonna happen here? And it coples times he escaped
the pocket, he would try to force the ball and
you know, and put the defense of the vines. But
I don't know, this is a good question. I just
always kind of laugh. How you know, big go and
I we played in the Mountains Conference days and how
we just dreamed of having access to you know, the
playoffs and having a chance to go win a national title.
And here we go, we get in the Big twelve.
And now looking back, this Jullie football team would have
been in a better spot to have been in the
Mountain West probably and make the playoffs and they are
in the Big twelve. So that's the kind of irony here.
But you know it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Well, let me piggyback off of that too.
Speaker 2: So as soon as b why you got into the
power structure, right, the Power conference structure as an institution.
Now this is a good thing and a bad thing
to a degree. I asked Tom Homo this question as well. Uh,
with this fact, So as soon as they got in
to a P four conference, all of a sudden, you know,
revshare was implemented. So meaning the twenty million that you
got from the TV deal that was supposed to then
help with buildings, organizational design, maybe more FTEs, more you know, employees,
you know, more personnel, right for all of us Red
Group guys that need a little bit more mentorship, all
those things, right, you just took it away, man, and
then you give it to the players.
Speaker 4: So it's great you give it to the players.
Speaker 2: Right, But you like, Utah's got a thirteen year head
start of that twenty thirty forty million from an organizational
design standpoint. You know how much twenty thirty forty million
can do for your business as you invested in personnel
and technology and buildings and infrastructure, you know, in your
own industry. And so it's kind of like it's very
ironic that that happened right as BYU got in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a little bit of unfortunate in
that case. I mean, here's the thing. The Craigs to
b au listen, Craigs to b O boosters and probably
seen people listening like by us fans is stepped up,
and and I go, I go back to the fact
that the way that they're to keep Klanni here and uh,
you know how that was booster driven as far as
coming up with the funds and poor name with with
administration and keeping them here. I mean, uh, that bill
isn't a good spot. And not only from Kilannie and
the coaching staff and the players, but from the support
and you look at you know, bill you selling out
every game, and and and the support they've had, and
you look at the booster money coming through for an
I L And and also that helped with Klannie, like
you put all that together and and and Billie football,
I don't think it's ever been in a better spot, right,
I mean, yeah, yeah, you've kind of got the shaft
this year. I think we'd all agree with getting the
playoffs and and it's something that you know where we
did control our DestinE. We didn't win the championship game.
But all in all, like the trajectory and and the
outlook moving forward for Juwick Football, I don't think it
could be any better. Candidly, I mean, I think with
keep locking and Kialanie keeping a staff pretty much in tact,
and who knows, maybe there might be one or two
guys after the season's over, after this bowl games over,
they decide to move on and take promotions. We will see.
But all in all, I mean, it's kind of a
miracle that that client has been able to keep this
stack together for as long as he has, and I
think that speaks volumes to Klannie and what he's built.
I think it speaks volume to US fans out of
our support. I think the coaches filled that support. They
appreciate that support, and I think, like I said, everything's
just moving the right direction. I think players fill that support, right.
I think players realize it's a special place to place
to play and they want to play here. And I
don't know, I mean they have been two over the top,
op two missing. I just think the Buick football is
and one of the best spots it ever had been.
And you know, hopefully from here you just keep building
on these eleven two type seasons and go go get
a bowl game, win, and go twelve and two and
he built on that, bring back a lot of guys,
and start preseason ranked and just work your way up
from there.
Speaker 2: You're in the real estate world, do you you rubbed
shoulders a lot of big business finance, private equity VC guys.
What do you make of you getting into the private
equity gay picking on a little tux of cash five
hundred mili Uh?
Speaker 4: The impact there?
Speaker 2: I don't know if the government's gonna let it happen,
I'll be honest, I don't know, but it could happen.
Speaker 4: What do you make of it?
Speaker 6: D Nix we'll see. I'm really really curious to see
what the details of that deal are, right, I mean,
is it a drawdown over ten years? Five years? Is
a media capital infusion up front?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 6: What? What? What are the terms of that partnership looks
like exactly? And then and then yeah, we all know
companies that have had private equity invest in them and
a lot of times there's those guys are sharks, so
they want to return, right, and so what what happens
when when you're not getting the return that you uh,
that you promised, well, you start trimming the sat So
I don't know, it's that's gonna be a really interesting
one to play out. And obviously it's the person that's
kind as it had been kind of stated. So they're
more or less pioneers and now world. But yeah, we'll
see if if if the government steps in and shuts
it down or what happens there. But you know, good,
best of luck to be. I think they've got more
problems than just that. And those guys are trying to
figure out what Morgan's guy coming on being the head coach,
which I mean, I know Morgan person a great guy,
you know, but they they've gotta he's got a lot
of pressure on him to go fill in those the
shoes of Kyle Whittingham. Like that's a lot of pressure
to follow you to see kind of what happens up
there and in saw Lake. But uh, that's what I'm saying.
I think I think d y U is in a
a good spot. And you know, one thing we haven't
touch about what happens with Kyle. Obviously it sounds like
his name is getting rumored in other head coaching searches.
And what happens is he takes a job. Is he
all of a sudden takes some you know, Jason Beck
with him, and he kind of takes some of their staff,
and there's some and some of their players. I mean,
we'll we'll see. I I don't it's pretty clear he
wasn't done coaching from kind of how everything was handled.
So uh, I think the next thing we should be
pretty telling and pretty interesting for for the use up
there on what happens with Island, what happens with that programs.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. D Nick's best way to support
you what you do, how you do it. I know
you're in the real estate world. So if those that
are listening to want to align with you. They're looking
for commercial real estate investment opportunities, lease opportunities.
Speaker 4: What what? What can they do to get hold of you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, reach out on LinkedIn or Twitter? I still called Twitter, X,
reach out on X you know whatever. I think my
dams are open. I don't know how that all works,
but yeah, feel pretty reach out. Love to help you.
But in the meantime, I'm excited for the Joy football teams.
Next week will be I think it's a great way
to finish And can we talk about I mean, I
haven't seen any but this whole now, have there be
any holdouts per state yet? Have you seen that happen?
Speaker 4: You say, for for BYU and he you talking about
for Brigham? Nothing yet. The only concern I think right
now is LJ.
Speaker 2: Martin because he's going through the uh the pre draft
process and the rating process. Uh so that hasn't occurred
just yet. Uh but uh yeah, give me a little prediction.
Prediction do you think LJ? I mean, do you think
he's a Day two guy? Is he a Day two
NFL draft pick? And if he is, does he if
you were his brother, you were his father, you were
his agent, you know what I mean, what would you
be telling him?
Speaker 6: I mean, it's pretty tough to follow up what he
LJ did this year, right, thirteen hundred rushing yards. He
he's banged up a little bit, but he ever signed
a half yards to carry. Like as much as I'm
I want to be selfish and has him come back
to another year like it's there was a pre dominant
performance he had throughout the season, you know, And I
guess the pitch would be, hey, you got there back
for another year, so you've got you know, he's not
got one year ange his belt. You got to be
dynamic duo. But you know, I think p Algas can
come down to kind of what he runs in that
forty times and and you know, I think that that
will be pre telling of what day he gets drafted,
whether he's a Day two or Day three type kid.
But you know, he's the NFL tim running back is
a bruiser. I mean, look what tyler O Deear has done.
He's not that feature back, per say, and I don't
know if l J will quite be a feature back
in the at the next level, but he's a bruiser.
He's gonna get you those couple of those couple of
yards you need. I mean, there's a spot for him
on an NFL roster for sure, but you know, we'll see.
I mean for him, I said, it'd be stuff to
come back and and you know, have a better season.
I think that he's had otherwise, other than the fact
that he probably can hopefully stay healthy and to be
able healthier. But I don't know, it'll be it's just
goo what happened to him. I'm just more impressed with
the fact that there's not really any holdouts for By's
football team. I mean this typically you have a whole
bunch of older guys that are often for the draft.
And the fact that clients able to you know, Jay
Hill and and Rodbert to be able to convince their
guys all go out there and play one last time.
I mean, I think that speaks a lot to this
newly football culture as well, right, I mean, I think
it's more about the team and not about the individuals.
And I'm pretty impressed with all the guys buying in
and being all the sacrifice for buy a little bit,
even though as we know, this bowl game is kind
of meanless when it's come down to, you know, records
per se. But I think there's a lot of pride
on the line. And I gues said, I think the
culture itself, gides is still dead. And the guys, the
type of guys that bought in and want to go
out there and do one more time. I think speaks
volumes about where this team is at.
Speaker 2: DNX David Nixon, former b YU great, great catching up
with you man, Thanks for hopping on for keeping up
with the cougar segment.
Speaker 6: It's always fun. Thanks guys, Thank you.
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