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Speaker 2: I want to get into a little bit of world

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of by sports but also college athletics.

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Speaker 4: Did you buy chance here?

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Speaker 2: See the words the quotes from Joel Klatt one of

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the enemies public enemies number one for college football fans.

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I think right now a lot of people are like,

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it's funny. People don't realize. Let me just give you

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a baseline foundation here. The more people talk, the more

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they say that you can criticize period. That's why radio

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so tough now with all these streaming things going on

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right now with video and things. Kirk Hurbstreet has been

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thrown under, Josh Pate has been thrown UNDERBLIC public anemy

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Speaker 4: And number three. But I think the hated college.

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Speaker 2: Football analyst right now maybe Joel Klatt, the former Boulder,

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Colorado product the PAC twelve advocate that the defunct PAC

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twelve advocate right because it no longer exists.

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Speaker 4: He was not a friend to BYU during this process.

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these guys were Peyton State.

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Speaker 2: Joel Klatt as well as Kirk Kurtry, none of them

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were advocating for by Did you hear, by chance what

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he said about the NC Double A tournament?

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Speaker 3: You know, I saw some of the headlines. I didn't

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fact that he had some pretty terrible takes on just

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the overall tournament itself.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give it to you right here, let

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me give you a quote, and then we're gonna play

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the sound by I hopefully you can hear it. So

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he stated this, This was a This was a few

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podcast and said, Uh, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is a joke.

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It's the dumbest tournament in and the least fair tournament

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in all of sports. We put teams at odd times

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on neutral sites in a one game affair that doesn't

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crown a true champion. Let's listen in he pontificates a

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Speaker 5: About that we don't want Cinderella's we want the best

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teams playing each other at the end. In fact, hot take,

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ever had in my entire life. The NCAA Basketball Tournament

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is a joke. It's it's the it's the dumbest tournament

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and the least fair tournament in all of sports. We

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doesn't crown a true champion.

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Speaker 4: We're not We're not.

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Speaker 5: Doing anything that tells us who's the best team over

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the course of the entire season. You know, like, if anything,

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the NCAA Basketball tournament should act exactly like the old

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the old World Cup, which we should have groups. They

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should all get guaranteed three games, and they should be

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played at the higher seeds arena so that those seeds

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are rewarded for a quality game. And that way we

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don't just get to see, like you know, Kentucky won

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and done against George Mason or something like that. Well,

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that's stupid about that. We don't want cinderellas so late.

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Speaker 4: Were you able to hear that by chance?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you heard it. What do you agree with?

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Speaker 2: What do you disagree with from Joel Klatt about Cinderellu's

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NCAA tournament grouping one and done type of situations, neutral sites.

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Speaker 4: What stood out to you?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know if there's much that I can't

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is the best tournament out there. This is from someone

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who grew up in acc country watching Duke in Carolina

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and NC State and all these teams compete. And that's

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can see a team like Valparaiso go in and go

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deep into the tournament, or Butler or you know, BYU,

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you know where you know, college football doesn't have that

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Speaker 6: So I also kind.

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Speaker 3: Of don't know if I would necessarily put a lot of.

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Speaker 6: Stock in what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he is a he is a college football guy,

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and so to say that that's like one of the

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worst tournament formats is kind of crazy in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: With that well, and then foundationally just before he was

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talking about that, like he doesn't like that. He's one

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of those anti JMU, anti two lane guys. He doesn't

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want a Cinderella in the college football Playoff. He doesn't

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want automatic bids from teams that don't that aren't one

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of the top twelve teams in college football per his

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his purview, right, And I understand where he's coming from there.

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this college football playoff, and BYU like like byu' is

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a better team than too Late, right, b Y is

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a better team in JMU.

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Speaker 4: They were one of the.

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Speaker 2: First teams out, and so like, I understand this perspective

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that he has on the college football playoff and even

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how he views I actually think there is some I

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think there's some valid points that he makes when you're

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best teams, you know, group together in those final few games,

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et cetera. Football is different than basketball completely, and you

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make a really good point. Typically the best team wins

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in football. It's really hard to like just get hot

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in a football game, No, because there's too many. There's

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eleven players on the field, and you have to be

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a really good team to win basketball.

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Speaker 4: Someone can get hot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me and Ap and Ronnie pull up to the

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local gym and someone's running. You know, they're really talented,

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so we could you step in. I'm an old man.

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Ap still has some vigoran vim. Ronnie Hill you know

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his he can still get buckets. We could get hot

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and knock off a good team, right like we in

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the basketball world, it's a little bit different. He's an

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idiot for saying we don't want cinderellas. What an ignorant

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thing to say, you know, I think, But at the

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the neutral side of things, the neutral games of the

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NCAA tournament, right. I understand why they do it, but

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if you've won the regular season or you won your

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conference tournament, you're a higher seed, it'd be nice to

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have a competitive advantage rather than a neutral site. So

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I do think there's some credence now he backed The

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thing that I think is so interesting is he backed

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Speaker 4: Recently he said it was a bad take. It was

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a terrible thing.

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Speaker 2: This tells me everything I need to know about Joe Klatt.

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He's thought about this, He's delved into this. He said,

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we don't want cinderellas. In fact, the NCAA tournament's the

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worst tournament because it doesn't crown the once tri trip.

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Speaker 4: He's thought about this.

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Speaker 2: This is something he believes, and just because there's bad

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pr backlash, he's like, no, guys, I was wrong.

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Speaker 4: This is the ultimate politician.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this, watch him back it up, back it

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up the truck saying I just want everyone to like me. Now,

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don't hate on me, don't attack me. Listen to Joel Klatt.

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Speaker 5: I had an interesting take. It was a bad take.

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It was a terrible take. To be fair, what I

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said on their show on Monday morning early was sloppy

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and worded wrong, and so it was kind of like

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I landed the plane, but it was in a cornfield

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and so like we had to hit the eject and

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it was like we kind of like the plane didn't

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crash necessarily. Here's the deal the NCAA Basketball Tournament. If

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the objective was to crown the best basketball team of

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the college basketball season, then it's a bad format. And

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because of that then it's not fair, is what I said.

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And I said is a joke. It's the dumbest and

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that's obviously going to grab headlines. And again that's stupid

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of me to use those terms. But the structure of

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the NCAA Basketball Tournament, it's objective is entertainment.

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Speaker 4: It's meant to be a gauntlet.

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Speaker 5: So the point is the best college basketball team for

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the year doesn't always win the NCAA Basketball Tournament. That

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tournament is set up to just crown its own champion.

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It's a made for TV entertainment event and it's great.

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And by the way, I do love the NCAA Basketball Tournament.

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But if you're asking me, is it structured properly to

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crown the best team of the season, then the answer

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is no. It's a hot take. It's a bad take.

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Not everyone's going to share that with me, because everyone

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loves the entertainment value of cinderellas in the NCAA Basketball Tournament.

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you love the cinderellas early late. You want to see

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the best teams playing against each other. You want to

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see incredible regional finals. You want to see Kentucky and

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Duke with Latner hitting it at the buzzer. Why, because

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that's greatness. Yes, you love cinderellas in the tournament because

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you have sixty eight teams. But in college football, ours

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is much more selective. We have twelve teams of one

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hundred and thirty whatever teams in college football, and so

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once we're down to twelve, well, now we don't really

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want cinderellas. And I will maintain that opinion. That is

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my opinion. You can disagree, and more power to you.

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Speaker 4: All Right, there you go, Layne Alo game Day, Men's health.

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What do you make of that? Is he backing it

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up enough for you?

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Speaker 6: Is?

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Speaker 4: What vibe do you get listening to Joel Klatt there?

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Speaker 3: Well, he kind of said he's talking out of both

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sides of his mouth right now. He's saying that no

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one wants it, but then everyone wants wants it, and

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it's like, well, which one is it? I personally love

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the Cinderella story even like, here's the deal, Like I

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think you said it perfectly. No one is expecting Tulane

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to come out here and win the college football playoffs.

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No one's expecting for a JAMU to do it. Could

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they potentially get by a first round Navy, who knows,

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But there's no way that they're going to win the

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whole thing, right, And it's like you said, there's just

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too many moving parts. But to say that people don't

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want to Cinderella story, that's like patently false, right, Like

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we love the Cinderella story. In fact, even outside of

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this within the bowl season, right, we've had you know,

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I don't know if you want to call it a

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Cinderella story, but just think back to like Boise and

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People loved that game.

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Speaker 6: Boy.

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Speaker 3: State was a huge underdog and that was a insanely

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entertaining game to watch. So people do want do want

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that because for how many Oklahoma fans there are who

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were watching that game, there was a whole lot of

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people in the country who were rooting against Oklahoma in

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that game, and they love that.

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Speaker 2: I'm right with you, Lane, So my thoughts, I'll give

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you my thoughts here. I'll go let ap chime in

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as well. I got used Carl's car salesman vibes outside

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both speaking outside, both of his mouths, right both sides.

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He's gonna tell you what he told you how he

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really feels right off the bat, and then whenever he

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got criticism, now he's backing it up. That's a politician

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that to me, has been bought and paid for by

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big business as well. That's the vibe that I get.

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He got enough flack for it. He felt like it

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was hurting his brand. He felt like he was getting,

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you know, this constructive feedback and it could be you know,

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some angry people too, and he's like, I gotta back this,

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and I gotta soften it up a little bit. I

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was too hyperbolic, but he told you exactly how he

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felt right off the bat, Like that's his truth, that's

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his reality of the NCAA tournament and how he feels

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the college foot ball playoff should run jam you and

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and Tulane shouldn't be in and you should.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a better format.

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Speaker 2: He feels like the college football play iff is actually

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still a better format than than college basketball. That's kind

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of that's the vibe that I got, And I think

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it's interesting, Like, now you know you can't really trust

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Joel Klatt, is what I'm getting at, Like now I know,

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like I I, he's going to be tossed a little

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bit to and fro by either money or or public

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relations backlash. So I'm like, now, I just like, Okay,

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he's just a talking head that is going to say

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whatever you know, he thinks he's going to be most

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beneficial to his pocketbook. Your thoughts, ap, well, my thoughts

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first and foremost. If you want a basketball tournament that's

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like the World Cup where you have group stages, go

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watch the NBA Cup.

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Speaker 7: How successful has that been? I've never met.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I've met someone who gives a

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rip about the NBA Cup. It's meaningless, it's not it's not.

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Speaker 4: A great tournament. Let's be honest here.

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Speaker 7: March Madnus is perfect.

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Speaker 4: It is the best.

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Speaker 7: Outside of the World Cup, which I love for personal reasons.

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Outside of the World Cup, March Madus is the best

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tournament out there because it gives everyone an opportunity to

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earn it on the court. Okay, Loyola Chicago went to

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the Final four, not because they got hot for one game.

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They earned it on the court several times. But Joe

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clad over here is saying we should never have let

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them have a chance at this. Never because they're from

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this little school. I don't trust where they're from.

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Speaker 4: Never.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because he wants Duke and North Carolina. If you

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want Duke in North Carolina, watch the regular season they

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played twice. Okay, And so when it comes to football,

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if you're applying that to football, you're probably going to

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still get Ohio State, Texas Tech, Indiana in the National

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Championship game, Chu Lane and Jmu they're gonna get They're

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gonna get their but they're not gonna go all the way.

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Let's be honest here, and if they do, then they've

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earned it on the field and they deserve it. Okay,

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And if I'll say this, if they do win the

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national championship, then that's great. I think that then they've

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earned it. They've earned it. That's the point here, is

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that you need to give these little schools an actual

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chance instead of just saying on the hypothetical field, on

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my paper football team, we beat them by forty and

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you might beat them by forty, but you might not.

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Speaker 4: And we all know that.

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Speaker 2: Utah, speaking of paper, they've never lost a game on paper.

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Speaker 7: They have the greatest paper football team in the history.

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Speaker 4: Of paper football.

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Speaker 7: The problem comes when they field their actual football team.

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Speaker 2: And they have to go to Lavelle Edwards Stadium and win,

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and they couldn't do it. Lane, Hey, Lane, appreciate you.

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to the hotline. Welcome in former BYU great, one of

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the best linebackers in BYU football history. We got d Knicks,

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my teammate David Nixon on the line. David, how that

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are you?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 6: Benjamin Critel, how you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 4: Living the dream? Man living the dream all as well?

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Speaker 2: In Cougar Country, By's going to the Pop Tarts Bowl.

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Man ranked opponent in a bowl game. We've we've experienced

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a lot of great bowl games in bau football history,

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not a lot of them have been against ranked opponents.

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What does it mean to play a ranked opponent at

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the end.

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Speaker 4: Of the year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it validates the season that you've had,

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shows that obviously you're playing a ranked opponent, means that

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you've probably had a good season yourself, and gives you

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one more officers to go out there and improve yourself.

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It's unfortunate that it's kind of ended in the bowl

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game that you used in versus the playoffs, but you know,

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it is what it is. It's just another opportunity and

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listen to football players, is unlike basketball or baseball. You

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only have twelve thirteen opportunities this year obviously fourteen opportunities

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you got there and play a game that you love.

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And so for me it's always like, hey, bowl game,

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this is I cent a cake. There's one more chance

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to go out there and compete, and one more opportunity

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to go show that you're in absolute stud and trying

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to make a case for yourself going into the NFL

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potentially and forced trying to end the season on an

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uptick and on a good note and get ready for

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the next year.

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Speaker 2: How does a win or a loss the outcome of

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the Bowl game this year versus Georgia Tech impact your

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opinion of the twenty twenty five football team at BUYU

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added season.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't think any will ever I lost,

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would not take away the season this Deala's team has had.

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one of the top seasons I think ever given a schedule,

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what deal he's able to do. I think it was

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really impressive to see how BYU coming off what happened

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last year, where all they had to do is win

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one of those last few games and they ended up

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dropping Arizona State and they no longer control their own destiny.

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that they came through they were able to hold strong

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indeede Iowa State and TCU and finish strong and get

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to the championship game. I mean, that's that's really impressive,

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and it shows kind of stepped in the right direction

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that the Clone took his team. So nothing will take

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away this season this buy team has put together. But

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of course win always is the cherry on top, and

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it kind of kind of pulls you into the offseason

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and gets you ready for you know, set you on

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the right mood and right track. And there's anything we've

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learned from the last two years is you've gotta find

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a way to be three season ranked. You've gotta find

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a way to be the top twenty so you can,

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you know, climb your way up through that top ten

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faster than if you're unranked. And that's what this team

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has had an issue with. And it's it's kind of

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playing from behind as they try to make their way

475
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up in that top ten, top eight and give you

476
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,880
a little bit more grace when it comes to losing

477
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,119
a game down the road. Because you only drop the

478
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,079
U spots versus Billy, you're kind of dropping out of

479
00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:48,759
that top twelve.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really intriguing to me how how Couler

481
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,279
nation collectively is gonna view this game.

482
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Speaker 4: If b YU loses. How did they feel about this season?

483
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Speaker 2: I mean they were knocking on the or they in

484
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,240
the minds of bou fans, and I think, yeah, I

485
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,759
feel the same way. B A is not an elite

486
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,680
team yet, right, you'd agree that they're not elite team.

487
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,119
They're a great team though, I'd put them, you know,

488
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,039
in that if they're not a top five team in

489
00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:16,279
the country. They're probably in between that, like six to

490
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,000
sixteen ranked, which that is that where you put them,

491
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,319
and they can compete and beat those teams in that

492
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,839
six to sixteen realm.

493
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, and I think I think, listen,

494
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:29,119
this team can compete with anybody if they played perfect football.

495
00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:31,359
And that was the problem with Texas Tech both loss

496
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,160
of this year, they by no means played perfect football.

497
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,079
Your negative to turnover both games, and nobody just made

498
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,240
plays listen. Defensively didn't create any turnovers either, and so

499
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,839
you know, this was a if you want to play

500
00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:46,599
with the top teams in the country, you've got to

501
00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:49,480
play really good football, and bo you didn't. And that's

502
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,400
what it comes down to. They they just didn't play

503
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,920
their best against the top of punt that they needed to.

504
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,319
And I think that's what the committee saw, and I

505
00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:59,160
don't agree with them, but I can certainly understand the

506
00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:02,920
rationale and their quote unquote ie test he wasn't competitive

507
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,640
in any of those games. And yet if you watch

508
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,160
the whole game, see Billy's competitive. You know, a halftime,

509
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,880
the score was really close, but ultimately they couldn't close

510
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,400
out the game and finish and and you know, that's

511
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,079
I think that's what I got penalized ultimately. But but

512
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,680
once again, I think what they did this year, especially

513
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,519
with a freshman quarterback, and what Aaron Rodgers was able

514
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:23,799
to do to to kind of great for him and

515
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,000
the guys stets up all around him. It was just

516
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,839
an incredible effort. I credit goes to Colonne coaching staff,

517
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,440
certainly the players, but to take the situation they were

518
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,160
handed was so late in the season as well, right,

519
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,519
I mean, it's different if it's all everything with Jake

520
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:40,200
Retzloff went down in January, so they had all spring ball,

521
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960
had all summer workouts to all kind of get on

522
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,920
the same page. But this happened so late in the

523
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,920
year that they're just scrambled the way they did. Uh,

524
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,960
And to have the record the way they did, I mean,

525
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,799
it's I'm telling you, it's it's super impressive.

526
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: What's sorry, ap, What do he got for me?

527
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 7: So it's it's become pretty clear to me that over

528
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:02,640
the past past there's a gap between elite teams and

529
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,000
great teams, and sometimes that gap can be pretty big.

530
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,960
To the tune of twenty nine to seven loss, Right,

531
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,160
what does b YU need to do in the offseason

532
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,079
to close that gap as a program.

533
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 6: You know, I went back and watched the All twenty

534
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,000
two film on the first loss against Texas Tech, and

535
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,039
then you know, I've obviously watched the game and the

536
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:24,880
big tal termionship haven't watched the film quite you have

537
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,119
that one. But here's the thing DEALI is not getting

538
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,200
dominating the trenches. It's not like we're outmanned against the

539
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:35,119
against Texas Tech. Yeah, they got some better athletes to

540
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,480
serve positions. I think definitely Texas Tech defensive elite and

541
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:40,799
our offense b always often struggled to move the ball

542
00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:44,960
and and kind of sustained your eyes. But if I

543
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,400
wouldn't say us all of Ston's got scrapped their whole

544
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,519
program and start from scratch and go get different dudes.

545
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:52,759
Gilli has the dudes. I think a lot of those

546
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,599
just pure execution. And yeah, LoVa was a young quarterback.

547
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,599
I mean Bear gets hurt in that Texas Tech game.

548
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,640
It changed the whole game plan. I mean it's from

549
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,200
a deep the guys. If I see a quarterback limp

550
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,119
and the way Bear was limping, but yeah, I'm not

551
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,119
going to respect his own read I'm not going to

552
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,279
respect Bear as a runner, and it changes the whole

553
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:10,079
game play. Now you're just sitting duck in that pocket.

554
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,640
I'm gonna come after him, right, And that's exactly what

555
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,200
Texas Tech did, And so both games are just different.

556
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,880
I think all the first game against Texas Tech, Bear

557
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,440
on the road, big twelve environment gained it. I think

558
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,039
all just kind of got to him. Frankly, I mean

559
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:23,680
that's that's kind of the first game. You saw Bear

560
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,160
get rattled. He took a hit early in night game.

561
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000
If you remember, he tried to leap over one that

562
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,559
Texas Tech defenders and they just absolutely body slammed them

563
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,200
to the ground. He wasn't the same after that, and

564
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,599
I think I think some of that carried throughout that

565
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:37,720
first loss and the second loss. You know, after he

566
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,640
gets hurt. It is a different ballgame too. And I

567
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,160
mean that's just the game of football, right, Quarterback rules everything.

568
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,000
So if your quarterback's not dial the dialed in it,

569
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,400
it's gonna be a long day. But you know, I

570
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,680
think BA can be with Texas Tech. I didn't think

571
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,559
it can be honestly with anybody in the country, especially

572
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,720
with the defense. The Bill he had. As we've seen Beauty,

573
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:56,599
he just can keep him in any game. What Bou's

574
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,000
defense did not do, like I said, is create turnovers

575
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:01,519
and and if if you're all offensive struggling the way

576
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:05,839
the Buy's offense was struggling against this elite Texan Tech defense, defensively,

577
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,640
you've got to go out there and create some opportunities,

578
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,880
and you've got to create short fields and you've got

579
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,319
great pods the situations for your offense to try to

580
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:14,480
get some points on the board. And candidly, the BOI

581
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:16,599
defense didn't do that. And I know it's tough to

582
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,640
do against a team like Texan Tech that takes care

583
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,440
of the ball, but you know that that's on the

584
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,559
boded to to step up and make some plays. And

585
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:26,519
like I said, both games against Sex and Tech, nobody

586
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,880
really made those game breaking plays, right. And and that's

587
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,680
the difference between a team kind of being where BA

588
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,599
is and was versus a team that's being elite. I mean,

589
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,920
look look at Texas Tech and what ro Rodriguez did

590
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,160
and the other linebacker I'm blanking at his name that

591
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,240
had two picks against BAU in the championship game. Those

592
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:46,599
dudes stepped up and made plays like that's as simple

593
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,319
as that, and you just got somebody gotta step up

594
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:48,839
and make a play.

595
00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Roberts, who was a baller in that game. We

596
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:55,000
weren't even we weren't even uh, you know, talking about

597
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:58,240
him leading up to that that that particular game where

598
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,720
worried about Jacob Rodrigus. Instead, Roberts just completely took over

599
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:02,839
that game defensively.

600
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, d Nicks.

601
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: A lot of BYU fans right after that second Texas

602
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:12,000
Tech game they said, Ben, why aren't we pushing the

603
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:15,240
ball down field? Why do you think aer Rod was

604
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,359
hesitant to maybe push the ball downfield? Or maybe you know,

605
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,079
maybe there were routes run If you checked the all

606
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,319
twenty two, Bear just wasn't pushing it downfield.

607
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:26,079
Speaker 4: What was the story there, do you think?

608
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,119
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think it was a combination of just Texas

609
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,880
text front four. Really, the past rush is you know,

610
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,319
tough to contain, so I think thea you had to

611
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,799
keep extra balkers in. I joked that, hey, just stretching

612
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:39,039
down field and maybe we'll get a past in the

613
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:40,759
afference that could be one of your biggest players of

614
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:42,119
the game. And sure enough to what you drew one

615
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,920
lay in the game on a past in afference, so

616
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,160
you know, I'm not sure what it was. I agree,

617
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,920
you've got to stretch the defense, especially as as a

618
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,880
defensent guy. When the teams start trying to bottle at

619
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,160
the top, now your drafts become a little bit deeper.

620
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:58,000
And now that opened up the shorts intermediate rows as well, right,

621
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:00,880
And I think that's something that is barre matures. He'll

622
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,400
get more use of dropping it down to his checkdowns

623
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640
and just be a little more decisive. Like when you

624
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,960
go back from watching the film, there are certain windows

625
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,720
that he should be getting the ball out in that

626
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,480
first window. Instead he waited an extra count and got

627
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,759
it out in the second window, and a lot of

628
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:16,200
times he completed it. But it's he matures and grows,

629
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,599
so get it out sooner and and uh, you know

630
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:21,119
that opens up and allows more big plays to occur.

631
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:24,079
But you know, I think everyone's frustrated with a lot

632
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:25,720
of throwing the fault on the field. I don't know

633
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:27,440
the extent of his injury, whether you know, on that

634
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:29,640
front foot, if he felt comfortable enough of not of

635
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,559
pushing off on that front foot and trying to push

636
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,880
the fall downfield in the championship game, but it was

637
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,440
kind of the same thing that happened in the first game.

638
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,519
Like you said, the passing game was almost non existent,

639
00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:42,200
which you know, if you're one dimensional, it's and it

640
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,920
makes it makes it pretty tough.

641
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:47,519
Speaker 2: What do you like about this BYU football team this year?

642
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,920
Where do you maybe rank it amongst the best BYU

643
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480
teams and BOAU football history.

644
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,279
Speaker 6: I mean, it's gonna be out there. I don't know

645
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:58,440
where it brings exactly, but you look at this defense,

646
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,400
like I allude to earlier, give up nineteen points a game.

647
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,079
I mean that's that's elite, that's a and that's a

648
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,720
big twelve play, right, I mean that gives good competition.

649
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,119
I think this team and what's going to deal with

650
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,319
the cards that were dealt. I look at L. J. Martin,

651
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:16,920
the way he stepped up, uh and you know with

652
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,240
with the young quarterback Franklin. I think the way the

653
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,519
Bear performed from for the beast majority of the season,

654
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,400
the way the Bear was able to take care of

655
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,920
the ball right, it was really impressive. He ended the

656
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,039
season a regular season. I know we obviously there's a

657
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:34,160
bowl game, but fourteen touchdowns only six interceptions, you know,

658
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:38,279
sixty four percent completion percentage, Like that's sixty plus form

659
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:39,799
a freshman. I mean, that's that's all you can really

660
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:42,160
ask for, right And then of course the way he

661
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,920
was able to kind of be teams with his legs,

662
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,880
you know. I I just loved kind of how this

663
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,480
whole season came together. And once again, for me, the

664
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,440
biggest takeaway is the ability that for Buil you to

665
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,079
to finish right. And that's something they failed to do

666
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,000
last year. They go back in the offseason, all the

667
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,759
juniors that are now seniors noted how painful that was that,

668
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,559
you know, they at one point last year they control

669
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,079
their own destiny, and they faltered. They slipped during the

670
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,119
you know, during the home stretch. But this year, after

671
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,960
losing to Texas Tech, they smacked TCU. They go on

672
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,599
the road to Cincinnati, you know, beat him handily, h

673
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,039
and you come home, you smack UCS like they took

674
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:20,759
care of business. And and and that's that's the step

675
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,079
of the right direction. Now, obviously the next progression is

676
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,279
to get back to the te your ship game next year

677
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,559
and you win at this time. Right, So it's kind

678
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,359
of baby steps, but I just I'm just impressed with

679
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,680
this team kind of, like I said, the step they

680
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,119
made in the right direction of taking care of business

681
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,440
and finishing the season strong and showing that they're listen,

682
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,240
They're they're they're forced to be wreckful with You look

683
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,240
at the b YU and you look at their returney starters.

684
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,440
I look at that secondary. I mean the return almost

685
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,920
ever been in that secondary except for Tanner Wall you know, uh,

686
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:51,000
defensive line Obcioc who decides to come back, and what

687
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:52,880
pieces they can add there. Some of those young guys

688
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,599
tell to the Atana and Nusutamo Pale super impressive. There's

689
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,720
just a lot of pieces to this boy team that

690
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:01,960
You're gonna be returning a lot of dudes next year,

691
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,119
and I'm sure there'll add some more guys in the portal.

692
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:06,319
But I think that's what gets you much excited and

693
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,480
move forward is as Colonias building Savage's culture, uh and

694
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,880
and you just kind of keep plugging guys in and

695
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000
the older guys, the vetsman guys are coach up to

696
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,279
younger guys and it becomes guy of this culture of uh.

697
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:20,160
You know, CALLI says, I love and learn right, And

698
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,319
I think that's true. I think these guys are learning

699
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:24,480
from one another and the results are paying off on

700
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:26,559
the field. I mean, eleven and two, that's man, what

701
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:28,839
a fun season. It's incredible they were able to kind

702
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,519
of right off what they did against the competition that

703
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:30,880
they did.

704
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705
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,519
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707
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As far as you know, you look at this BYU

708
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,039
team at the beginning of the year, Jake Redslov leaves right,

709
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,880
and there's some question marks around the offense and who's

710
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,000
gonna lead it. Uh jakins up at Tulane and then

711
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:57,359
leads his team to.

712
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: The College Football Playoff.

713
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: UH us on the outside looking in now back to

714
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:09,119
back years. Pretty crazy how I'm super happy for Jake,

715
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,000
obviously wish him nothing but the best, But it makes

716
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,800
you wonder. And we've had this debate on the show.

717
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Do you think BYU is better with Jake?

718
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 4: You look at what he did at Tulane.

719
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: You look at his stats, right, I don't know if

720
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:25,599
he's supporting cast is as strong the resources that do

721
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,559
you think by you would have been better off with

722
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,599
Jake or with Bear this year, remember Bear, he took

723
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,519
care of the ball, ran the ball extremely well.

724
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,039
Speaker 4: Statistically they kind of look.

725
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: Similar this year in many ways, not a whole lot

726
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:40,800
of difference there.

727
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 4: What do you make of that?

728
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,679
Speaker 6: No, it's a good question. I mean we know that

729
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,800
you kind of lived and died by Jake, right. He

730
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,480
was a gunslinger, which was fun to watch, but also

731
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,920
as we remember from the Kansas game and Oklahoma a

732
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,079
couple of years prior, like you can also bite you,

733
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,960
which has gun slinging, and I think that was that

734
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:05,000
was the one thing with with Bear coming this season.

735
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:06,840
I think Aaron just said, listen, we're not gonna air

736
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,840
it out. We're not gonna go crazy to play, but

737
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480
we're gonna do a lot of play action. We're gonna

738
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:12,800
run the ball, We're gonna do a lot of play action.

739
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,679
Out to play action. We'll have a couple guys run

740
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,360
some routes and we're gonna make some really easy reade,

741
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,320
really easy throws for you. And he made those throws, right,

742
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,079
he made it. When they had this account, he stepped

743
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,559
up in the pocket a louda pass rushes and Barret

744
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:27,400
Bachmayer delivered. Jake was was just he was a different

745
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,480
type of player. He also keep beat with his legs, clearly,

746
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:33,320
but but he also you know, he made some spectator throws.

747
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,320
We also put in some tough situations, right, I mean,

748
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,239
you look at his numbers. You've probably broken this down

749
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,800
before as well. But he also had fourteen touchdowns six

750
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,840
interceptions with Heulane, so some pretty comfortable numbers to to

751
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,880
what Bear had. And I'm trying to try to look

752
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,639
at this. It looks like Barre at twenty seven hundred

753
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:54,719
passing yards and Jake had, yeah, twenty eight sixty two,

754
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,039
Like not super far off, right, it boasted with the

755
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:03,199
same touchdown interstate ratio. I don't know Jake with a gamer.

756
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,679
I love, I loved how he competed. But I think

757
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,920
we all can you know, I think we all agree

758
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,519
that there were times where he would drop back. We

759
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:11,519
all kind of held our press, like, oh boy, but

760
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,920
what's gonna happen here? And it coples times he escaped

761
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,039
the pocket, he would try to force the ball and

762
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,039
you know, and put the defense of the vines. But

763
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,599
I don't know, this is a good question. I just

764
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:25,800
always kind of laugh. How you know, big go and

765
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,079
I we played in the Mountains Conference days and how

766
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:30,679
we just dreamed of having access to you know, the

767
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,199
playoffs and having a chance to go win a national title.

768
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:35,079
And here we go, we get in the Big twelve.

769
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,480
And now looking back, this Jullie football team would have

770
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:39,199
been in a better spot to have been in the

771
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:42,880
Mountain West probably and make the playoffs and they are

772
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,199
in the Big twelve. So that's the kind of irony here.

773
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,320
But you know it is what it is.

774
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,159
Speaker 4: Well, let me piggyback off of that too.

775
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: So as soon as b why you got into the

776
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,000
power structure, right, the Power conference structure as an institution.

777
00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,800
Now this is a good thing and a bad thing

778
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,519
to a degree. I asked Tom Homo this question as well. Uh,

779
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:06,880
with this fact, So as soon as they got in

780
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,679
to a P four conference, all of a sudden, you know,

781
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:15,119
revshare was implemented. So meaning the twenty million that you

782
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,079
got from the TV deal that was supposed to then

783
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:23,079
help with buildings, organizational design, maybe more FTEs, more you know, employees,

784
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,159
you know, more personnel, right for all of us Red

785
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,760
Group guys that need a little bit more mentorship, all

786
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,960
those things, right, you just took it away, man, and

787
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,000
then you give it to the players.

788
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: So it's great you give it to the players.

789
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: Right, But you like, Utah's got a thirteen year head

790
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,000
start of that twenty thirty forty million from an organizational

791
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:45,719
design standpoint. You know how much twenty thirty forty million

792
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:50,360
can do for your business as you invested in personnel

793
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,719
and technology and buildings and infrastructure, you know, in your

794
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,239
own industry. And so it's kind of like it's very

795
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,280
ironic that that happened right as BYU got in.

796
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a little bit of unfortunate in

797
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,880
that case. I mean, here's the thing. The Craigs to

798
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,800
b au listen, Craigs to b O boosters and probably

799
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,760
seen people listening like by us fans is stepped up,

800
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,119
and and I go, I go back to the fact

801
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,880
that the way that they're to keep Klanni here and uh,

802
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,119
you know how that was booster driven as far as

803
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,920
coming up with the funds and poor name with with

804
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,800
administration and keeping them here. I mean, uh, that bill

805
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,519
isn't a good spot. And not only from Kilannie and

806
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:31,960
the coaching staff and the players, but from the support

807
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:34,079
and you look at you know, bill you selling out

808
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,639
every game, and and and the support they've had, and

809
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:38,960
you look at the booster money coming through for an

810
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,360
I L And and also that helped with Klannie, like

811
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,320
you put all that together and and and Billie football,

812
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,280
I don't think it's ever been in a better spot, right,

813
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,960
I mean, yeah, yeah, you've kind of got the shaft

814
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,039
this year. I think we'd all agree with getting the

815
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:52,960
playoffs and and it's something that you know where we

816
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,559
did control our DestinE. We didn't win the championship game.

817
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,519
But all in all, like the trajectory and and the

818
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:02,280
outlook moving forward for Juwick Football, I don't think it

819
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,960
could be any better. Candidly, I mean, I think with

820
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:08,480
keep locking and Kialanie keeping a staff pretty much in tact,

821
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:10,320
and who knows, maybe there might be one or two

822
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,360
guys after the season's over, after this bowl games over,

823
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,239
they decide to move on and take promotions. We will see.

824
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:17,119
But all in all, I mean, it's kind of a

825
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:19,440
miracle that that client has been able to keep this

826
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,079
stack together for as long as he has, and I

827
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,320
think that speaks volumes to Klannie and what he's built.

828
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,000
I think it speaks volume to US fans out of

829
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,079
our support. I think the coaches filled that support. They

830
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:32,880
appreciate that support, and I think, like I said, everything's

831
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,360
just moving the right direction. I think players fill that support, right.

832
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,199
I think players realize it's a special place to place

833
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,639
to play and they want to play here. And I

834
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:42,800
don't know, I mean they have been two over the top,

835
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,599
op two missing. I just think the Buick football is

836
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,199
and one of the best spots it ever had been.

837
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,360
And you know, hopefully from here you just keep building

838
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,920
on these eleven two type seasons and go go get

839
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,559
a bowl game, win, and go twelve and two and

840
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:56,760
he built on that, bring back a lot of guys,

841
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,760
and start preseason ranked and just work your way up

842
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,159
from there.

843
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: You're in the real estate world, do you you rubbed

844
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,480
shoulders a lot of big business finance, private equity VC guys.

845
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:10,159
What do you make of you getting into the private

846
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,679
equity gay picking on a little tux of cash five

847
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,079
hundred mili Uh?

848
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 4: The impact there?

849
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if the government's gonna let it happen,

850
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:18,719
I'll be honest, I don't know, but it could happen.

851
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: What do you make of it?

852
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 6: D Nix we'll see. I'm really really curious to see

853
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,239
what the details of that deal are, right, I mean,

854
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,800
is it a drawdown over ten years? Five years? Is

855
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,840
a media capital infusion up front?

856
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: Like?

857
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:34,159
Speaker 6: What? What? What are the terms of that partnership looks

858
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,719
like exactly? And then and then yeah, we all know

859
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,400
companies that have had private equity invest in them and

860
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,559
a lot of times there's those guys are sharks, so

861
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:45,840
they want to return, right, and so what what happens

862
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,039
when when you're not getting the return that you uh,

863
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,039
that you promised, well, you start trimming the sat So

864
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:53,480
I don't know, it's that's gonna be a really interesting

865
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,159
one to play out. And obviously it's the person that's

866
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,679
kind as it had been kind of stated. So they're

867
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,039
more or less pioneers and now world. But yeah, we'll

868
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,760
see if if if the government steps in and shuts

869
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,920
it down or what happens there. But you know, good,

870
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,760
best of luck to be. I think they've got more

871
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,800
problems than just that. And those guys are trying to

872
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,960
figure out what Morgan's guy coming on being the head coach,

873
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,239
which I mean, I know Morgan person a great guy,

874
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,559
you know, but they they've gotta he's got a lot

875
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:20,400
of pressure on him to go fill in those the

876
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,280
shoes of Kyle Whittingham. Like that's a lot of pressure

877
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,480
to follow you to see kind of what happens up

878
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,360
there and in saw Lake. But uh, that's what I'm saying.

879
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,480
I think I think d y U is in a

880
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,480
a good spot. And you know, one thing we haven't

881
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,920
touch about what happens with Kyle. Obviously it sounds like

882
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480
his name is getting rumored in other head coaching searches.

883
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:40,639
And what happens is he takes a job. Is he

884
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,039
all of a sudden takes some you know, Jason Beck

885
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,360
with him, and he kind of takes some of their staff,

886
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,199
and there's some and some of their players. I mean,

887
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,559
we'll we'll see. I I don't it's pretty clear he

888
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:53,760
wasn't done coaching from kind of how everything was handled.

889
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,079
So uh, I think the next thing we should be

890
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:58,599
pretty telling and pretty interesting for for the use up

891
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:02,440
there on what happens with Island, what happens with that programs.

892
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:04,039
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. D Nick's best way to support

893
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:05,360
you what you do, how you do it. I know

894
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,480
you're in the real estate world. So if those that

895
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:10,480
are listening to want to align with you. They're looking

896
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,280
for commercial real estate investment opportunities, lease opportunities.

897
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,639
Speaker 4: What what? What can they do to get hold of you?

898
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, reach out on LinkedIn or Twitter? I still called Twitter, X,

899
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,400
reach out on X you know whatever. I think my

900
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,000
dams are open. I don't know how that all works,

901
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:30,199
but yeah, feel pretty reach out. Love to help you.

902
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,800
But in the meantime, I'm excited for the Joy football teams.

903
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:35,519
Next week will be I think it's a great way

904
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,280
to finish And can we talk about I mean, I

905
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,800
haven't seen any but this whole now, have there be

906
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,079
any holdouts per state yet? Have you seen that happen?

907
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,079
Speaker 4: You say, for for BYU and he you talking about

908
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:47,760
for Brigham? Nothing yet. The only concern I think right

909
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,400
now is LJ.

910
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: Martin because he's going through the uh the pre draft

911
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,320
process and the rating process. Uh so that hasn't occurred

912
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,440
just yet. Uh but uh yeah, give me a little prediction.

913
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:04,280
Prediction do you think LJ? I mean, do you think

914
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,079
he's a Day two guy? Is he a Day two

915
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:09,800
NFL draft pick? And if he is, does he if

916
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,800
you were his brother, you were his father, you were

917
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,280
his agent, you know what I mean, what would you

918
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,000
be telling him?

919
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,599
Speaker 6: I mean, it's pretty tough to follow up what he

920
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,840
LJ did this year, right, thirteen hundred rushing yards. He

921
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:21,800
he's banged up a little bit, but he ever signed

922
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,559
a half yards to carry. Like as much as I'm

923
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:26,360
I want to be selfish and has him come back

924
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,840
to another year like it's there was a pre dominant

925
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,840
performance he had throughout the season, you know, And I

926
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,280
guess the pitch would be, hey, you got there back

927
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,159
for another year, so you've got you know, he's not

928
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:39,639
got one year ange his belt. You got to be

929
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,039
dynamic duo. But you know, I think p Algas can

930
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:46,159
come down to kind of what he runs in that

931
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:50,079
forty times and and you know, I think that that

932
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,079
will be pre telling of what day he gets drafted,

933
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,280
whether he's a Day two or Day three type kid.

934
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,079
But you know, he's the NFL tim running back is

935
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,000
a bruiser. I mean, look what tyler O Deear has done.

936
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,320
He's not that feature back, per say, and I don't

937
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,920
know if l J will quite be a feature back

938
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,639
in the at the next level, but he's a bruiser.

939
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:08,519
He's gonna get you those couple of those couple of

940
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:11,360
yards you need. I mean, there's a spot for him

941
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,000
on an NFL roster for sure, but you know, we'll see.

942
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:17,880
I mean for him, I said, it'd be stuff to

943
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,000
come back and and you know, have a better season.

944
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:23,000
I think that he's had otherwise, other than the fact

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that he probably can hopefully stay healthy and to be

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able healthier. But I don't know, it'll be it's just

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goo what happened to him. I'm just more impressed with

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the fact that there's not really any holdouts for By's

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football team. I mean this typically you have a whole

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bunch of older guys that are often for the draft.

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And the fact that clients able to you know, Jay

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Hill and and Rodbert to be able to convince their

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guys all go out there and play one last time.

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I mean, I think that speaks a lot to this

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newly football culture as well, right, I mean, I think

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it's more about the team and not about the individuals.

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And I'm pretty impressed with all the guys buying in

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and being all the sacrifice for buy a little bit,

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even though as we know, this bowl game is kind

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of meanless when it's come down to, you know, records

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per se. But I think there's a lot of pride

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on the line. And I gues said, I think the

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culture itself, gides is still dead. And the guys, the

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type of guys that bought in and want to go

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out there and do one more time. I think speaks

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volumes about where this team is at.

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Speaker 2: DNX David Nixon, former b YU great, great catching up

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with you man, Thanks for hopping on for keeping up

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with the cougar segment.

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Speaker 6: It's always fun. Thanks guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I want to discuss with John who he thinks the

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Kyle Whittingham, Will it be Kaylin de boor will it

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